[08:00] <infinity> janimo: Do you still have your Quickstart handy, and can I beg you to be my community tester?
[08:24] <janimo> infinity, my quickstart is still around, albeit unused. I can test stuff on it sure
[08:43] <infinity> janimo: That would be awesome.  We just need solid smoketesting on the mx5 images, so I can release them.
[08:44] <janimo> infinity, where they at?
[08:44] <janimo> and images? do we not only have one?
[08:44] <janimo> regular cdimage as usual right?
[08:44] <infinity> janimo: Just the one desktop image, yeah.
[08:44] <janimo> ok.
[08:44] <infinity> janimo: cdimage/daily-preinstalled/current
[08:44]  * janimo looks for mx5 power cords
[08:45] <janimo> I like the lack of any trace of *armel* on that page
[08:47] <infinity> janimo: That's by design. ;)
[08:47] <janimo> indeed, glad we dropped them
[09:50] <janimo> infinity, I no longer remember if desktop images had less output on video than on serial. The mx5 image stopped outputting to VGA after mounting root - so I stopped it after a minute , whereas booting with serial attached it prints out resize info
[09:50] <janimo> I think desktop images should have some sort of progress indication or it looks not much different from bad SD or other boot problems
[09:51] <janimo> especially since the last lines are the infamous 'couldnt' mount because of unsupported optional features (240)'
[09:51] <janimo> which may in fact mean I have some issue with this card, but I have seen the error before and it seemed harmless
[09:52] <infinity> janimo: It's meant to output via plymouth.  It does on omap*...
[09:52] <infinity> Not progress, mind you, but it does say "resizing, please wait".
[09:53] <janimo> it says so on serial, with VGA on it just stays in text mode (after it switches the fonts to the thinner looking ones)
[09:53] <janimo> no plymouth/splash in sight
[09:54] <infinity> Fun.  I haven't booted an mx5 image in eons. :/
[09:54] <janimo> me neither
[09:54] <infinity> Not that I care if the splash works.
[09:54] <infinity> Just that it boots/installs.
[09:54] <janimo> I think our resize tricks buy much less than they are worth
[09:54] <janimo> make testing harder and more confusing
[09:54] <infinity> So, I'm still cool with blaming your card.
[09:54] <janimo> developers can use a straight to sd, bootbale image
[09:55] <janimo> bootable.
[09:55] <janimo> as the linaro ones are
[09:55] <infinity> Release is in two days, not changing that. :P
[09:55] <janimo> I know :)
[09:55] <janimo> just saying
[09:55] <janimo> we spend too much time (or well, spent) for a corner case which has few advantages imo
[09:56] <janimo> especialy since these images are clearly not for human beings, to warrant the extra handholding
[10:51] <janimo> infinity, it  kind of boots up but it is very slow. The install does not seem to finish (ubi disappears and I restarted manually after ~10 min)
[10:51] <janimo> if it were a movie I'd give ubuntu on mx53 '1 star'
[10:52] <janimo> it has way less users than the omaps and is less mature, that may explain its status
[10:52] <ogra_> still better than only having b-class celebrities in it
[10:52] <ogra_> :)
[10:53] <janimo> :)
[10:57] <LetoThe2nd> ogra_: don't you like b-movies?
[10:57] <ogra_> i love b movies
[10:57] <ogra_> but having one star in them makes them commercially more popular :)
[10:59] <LetoThe2nd> FTW http://goo.gl/sAVTO (might be NSFW depending on your office)
[10:59] <ogra_> lol, i recently noticed that in my EPG
[11:00] <janimo> since everyting is so slow on this mx53 it should at least be funny. I wish it said Das home as a tooltip instead of Dash home
[11:01] <LetoThe2nd> ogra_: i certainly recommand to watch it.
[11:01] <ogra_> heh, will do if my GF doesnt run away then :)
[11:01] <ogra_> janimo, haha
[11:02] <LetoThe2nd> ogra_: good luck with that
[11:02] <LetoThe2nd> janimo: locoboard i guess?
[11:02] <janimo> the OOM killer should also print a short random joke in dmesg to make the best of the situation
[11:03] <ogra_> lol
[11:03] <ogra_> file a bug, thats a great suggestion :)
[11:03] <janimo> then people without internet but who need the instant gratyfication of every distraction would just run fork-bombs and tail dmesg
[11:03] <LetoThe2nd> +1
[11:04] <janimo> this is what testing mx53 does to me :)
[11:04] <LetoThe2nd> idea: make a module to provide /sys/distractions/eliza
[11:05] <LetoThe2nd> a.k.a. kernel space psychoanalysis
[11:05] <janimo> 'Are you echoing 1 to me?'
[11:05] <LetoThe2nd> harrharrharr
[11:07]  * ogra_ now has a robert de-niro voice in his head ...
[11:08] <LetoThe2nd> i am not insane. 9 voices in my head are telling me all the time, and the tenth one is constantly humming the tune of tetris.
[11:21] <janimo> ogra_, is there any new unity/compiz gles fix in the queue?
[11:21] <ogra_> it should work from -proposed
[11:21] <janimo> besides what is in -proposed
[11:21] <janimo> ok
[11:49] <infinity> janimo: Erk.  I wish I had my board here.  I can't see how/why it would be any more broken than omap. :/
[11:50] <janimo> infinity, I know it was very slow when releasing 11.10 too
[11:50] <janimo> although for unknown reasons, it could be hw/board specific
[11:50] <janimo> I just know it used to boot for 10 minutes or so back then
[11:50] <infinity> If you can actually get it to install, that's good enough for me. :/
[11:50] <infinity> If not, maybe we'll just drop the image from the release.
[11:51] <janimo> infinity, yes, it installed and I could log in, just not very usable
[11:51] <janimo> but that would probably be true for other similarly specced computers
[11:51] <janimo> I know the beagle was not very snappy either
[11:51] <janimo> with the mx53 factory image though everything was very smooth
[11:54] <infinity> Alright.  Well, if it boots and installs, that's enough for me.
[11:54] <infinity> Maybe I'll find some time to see why it sucks next cycle. :/
[11:54] <infinity> janimo: Can you mark it tested in the tracker?
[11:54] <infinity> janimo: And if we have to respin, can I beg you to retest? ;)
[11:55] <janimo> infinity, I can retest, it is not too much work just boring :)
[11:55] <infinity> ;)
[11:55] <infinity> My hero.
[11:55] <janimo> I need to see how I log into the tracker, I know I only used it when I made the account months ago
[11:55] <infinity> I couldn't really disconnect my board without blowing up my whole network.
[11:56] <janimo> ah yes, you're using it as archive mirror
[11:56] <infinity> Among other things. :)
[11:56] <sveinse> Have any of you any experience with failing sd cards on an omap system? I'm seeing some strange things when upgrading several of our devices. apt-get dist-upgrade runs through, device is rebooted, but no file is changed in the fs! It's like the update never happened. dmesg reports nothing. No indication by kernel that the fs has become ro
[11:57] <sveinse> How does the kernel respond if writes to the sd fails?
[11:57] <janimo> ogra_, does unity3d on omap/PVR behave usably? I see lots of artifacts on x86/pvr
[11:58] <infinity> sveinse: If writes fail, that'll bubble up to userspace.
[11:58] <sveinse> yes, though so
[12:00] <sveinse> The weird thing is that I can edit a file successfully. cat it. reboot and the file is back to its previous contents.
[12:00] <sveinse> Does a ext4 journal recovery only recover file meta data or does it recover older versions of files as well?
[12:09] <ogra_> janimo, according to rsalveti and alf_ it should be fine
[12:10] <ogra_> did you rebuild it with the gles patch applied on x86 ?
[12:10] <janimo> ogra_, ok thanks. It flickers a lot and has screen corruption here though
[12:10] <janimo> ogra_, yes, in my ppa:jani/xd
[12:10] <ogra_> by default it will only be applied at build time on arm
[12:10] <rsalveti> janimo: there are some glitches, but it's usable
[12:10] <ogra_> k
[12:10] <rsalveti> and they are pvr related
[12:10] <rsalveti> unfortunately
[12:11] <rsalveti> but ti forwarded the issues to img already
[12:11] <rsalveti> but guess that on x86 it'd go with intel
[12:11] <janimo> rsalveti, ok good to know. Indeed, IMG need sto send Intel new binaries as well :)
[12:11] <janimo> thanks
[13:18] <rsalveti> ogra_: what still needs to happen to get the compiz packages from proposed to updates or main?
[13:18] <ogra_> rsalveti, well, seems the fglrx patch is supposed to be updated, i still wait for the commit :(
[13:18] <rsalveti> oh, ok :-(
[13:18] <rsalveti> ogra_: do we have a bug tracking that?
[13:19] <ogra_> beyond that, this patch needs to be tested on all non fglrx x86 HW
[13:19] <ogra_> i think that bug was already autoclosed
[13:19] <rsalveti> oh, ok
[13:19] <ogra_> they found a better fix they want to commit
[13:20] <rsalveti> got it
[14:44] <ogra_> smplman, did you get around to test the omap images on the XM ?
[14:45] <smplman> yes but the checkbox test was running crazy slow
[14:45] <ogra_> but the install worked ?
[14:45] <smplman> audio doesn't seem to work but everything else was good
[14:45] <ogra_> yay
[14:45] <smplman> i didn't have time to file a bug
[14:45] <smplman> is it building the kernel on install?
[14:45] <ogra_> audio is a long standing issue, needs UCM profiles and has a bug open already
[14:45] <ogra_> nope
[14:45] <smplman> also there was no partition option
[14:45] <GrueMaster> smplman: The audio bug is 925094
[14:46] <smplman> i wanted to use my ssd for the root fs
[14:46] <ogra_> will you log the result on the tracker ? (else i can)
[14:46] <ogra_> ah, you cant with the preinstalled images
[14:46] <smplman> i believe i did in the test cases
[14:46] <smplman> i submitted but I'm not sure they went through
[14:47] <smplman> ethernet worked right off the bat
[14:47] <smplman> the desktop image runs pretty slow, but i think once i get the ssd going it should be much better
[14:48] <ogra_> well, i'll submit a success report then and add 925094 to the result
[14:49] <smplman> ogra_: thanks
[14:49] <ogra_> thanks for testing !!!!
[14:49] <smplman> tanks for the support ;-)
[14:49] <smplman> thanks*
[14:49] <ogra_> :)
[14:53] <ogra_> GrueMaster, didnt you test ac100 ? would you mind logging it on the tracker ?
[14:54] <GrueMaster> I could, but it wasn't really a test.  Didn't see any issues though.
[14:54] <ogra_> well, i can too if you dont want to, no prob :)
[14:55] <ogra_> (i'm not testing more than the install either here, given i actually use it daily anyway userspace is tested enough imho :) )
[14:56]  * ogra_ submits 
[16:01]  * ppisati -> brb
[18:37] <cehh> GrueMaster: I followed your advice to use netboot image and preseeding, however the installer does not fetch the preseeding config file
[18:37] <cehh> http://pastebin.com/xF7QgFvD
[18:41] <GrueMaster> cehh: I see a problem with your kernel bootargs.  Try bootargs=vram=12M fixrtc quiet debian-installer/framebuffer=false console=ttyO2,115200n8 url=http://10.218.103.34/anonymous/tmp/carlos/preseed.cfg -- debconf/priority=critical locale=en_US console-setup/ask_detect=false console-setup/layoutcode=us live-installer/enable=false
[18:41] <GrueMaster> It will automatically choose dhcp if your preseed has that set.
[18:42] <GrueMaster> Here is my preseed:  http://paste.ubuntu.com/944541/
[18:43] <cehh> GrueMaster: thx, i'm going to give it a try
[18:46] <smplman> where can i get said net boot image?
[18:48] <GrueMaster> smplman: The netboot images for arm are at http://ports.ubuntu.com/ubuntu-ports/dists/precise/main/installer-armel/current/images/
[18:48] <smplman> gracias
[18:48] <GrueMaster> smplman: The netboot images for armhf are at http://ports.ubuntu.com/ubuntu-ports/dists/precise/main/installer-armhf/current/images/
[18:48] <smplman> ahh, love me some hf
[18:48] <GrueMaster> First link is for armel.
[18:49] <smplman> GrueMaster: thanks
[18:50] <GrueMaster> Use the netboot images.  The cdimages are just the raw kernel & initrd w/o uboot crc headers.
[18:50] <smplman> thats what i tested last night on my beagle xm
[18:50] <smplman> I've been wanting to try the net boot images
[18:51] <GrueMaster> Also, the *-fat-* images are essentially fat partitions.  The *.gz images are compressed raw SD images.
[18:52] <GrueMaster> fb - Frame Buffer (Monitor required).  serial - Serial Console (no monitor needed).
[18:52] <smplman> gotcha, was about to ask
[18:52] <GrueMaster> They really need to have a readme file defining these.
[18:53] <smplman> i would have fumbled my way through it
[18:53] <GrueMaster> :)
[18:53] <smplman> anyone tried the net install on an omap yet?
[18:53] <cehh> GrueMaster: those bootargs worked much better. The problem now is that network autoconfig failed
[18:53] <cehh> http://pastebin.com/Q5Q37M77
[18:54] <smplman> i know I've tried rcn-ees net boot precise image and it worked nicely
[18:54] <GrueMaster> cehh: Do you have link lights on your XM?
[18:54] <cehh> yes
[18:55] <GrueMaster> I had a problem with intermittent network connectivity issues.
[18:55] <GrueMaster> Hmm.  If you have a link, it should be able to resolve via dhcp.
[18:55] <cehh> after doing usb start at uboot prompt, there is nw connectivity
[18:56] <GrueMaster> I had to physically remove the network cable and wait a few seconds before plugging in for it to detect.
[18:56] <cehh> I'm wondering if the problem is that bxm does not use regular eth iface but instead usb eth
[18:57] <GrueMaster> No, I had it working.  Just had issues with the link detection.
[18:57] <GrueMaster> See bug 838200.
[18:57] <ubot2> Launchpad bug 838200 in u-boot-linaro "No network support on Beagle XM" [High,Invalid] https://launchpad.net/bugs/838200
[18:59] <smplman> cehh: try sudo modprobe smsc95xx
[19:00] <smplman> cehh: nevermind
[19:03] <cehh> smplman: my problem is with the ubuntu installer (ie. running uInitrd)
[19:03] <cehh> btw, I'm using bxm rev.C
[19:03] <smplman> thats what i have
[19:03] <smplman> drop to a shell and try the modprobe
[19:03] <smplman> then run the install
[19:04] <smplman> i had to this this once or twice
[19:04] <cehh> ok, let me try that
[19:04] <smplman> the lights on the ethernet will come on if it worked
[19:06] <GrueMaster> Cool.  I added "usb start" to my boot.scr, and my netboot is working without any intervention.
[19:06] <GrueMaster> I have a bxm Rev b.
[19:07] <cehh> smplman: no love after doing 'modprobe smsc95xx'
[19:07] <smplman> GrueMaster: it has only happened to me twice. every other time ethernet just works
[19:07] <smplman> cehh: you try to unplug and plug back in?
[19:08] <cehh> I do have eth lights
[19:08] <smplman> cehh: solid or blinking lights?
[19:08] <GrueMaster> On my board, I always have had link issues.  Even with the preinstalled images.
[19:09] <GrueMaster> Orange LED should be solid (link).  Green should blink (traffic).
[19:09] <cehh> solid orange, blinking green
[19:09] <smplman> if you have lights go back into the install and dhcp should take over
[19:10] <cehh> same error, can't dhcp.
[19:11] <GrueMaster> cehh: Sounds like an issue on the dhcp server side.
[19:12] <cehh> yes, the problem is that the other equip on the network can dhcp just fine.
[19:12] <GrueMaster> One issue I had was that I had to increase the # of dhcp assigned ip addresses and reduce the lease time.  Doing constant reboots on the beaglexm would eventually cause me to run out of addresses.
[19:13] <GrueMaster> Remember, the bxm doesn't have a static mac address.
[19:14] <GrueMaster> And I don't think the kernel will use the same mac as assigned by u-boot.
[19:15] <cehh> will try on a different network
[19:18] <GrueMaster> cehh: I have it installing here (almost done actually).
[19:28] <smplman> yea i ran out of addresses also
[19:28] <smplman> it also jacks with ssl certs
[19:58] <cehh> I tried on a different network but faced same dhcp problem. I will use manual nw config for now
[20:11] <jeinor> cehh, did you have problem with dhcp? I had the same problem with ubuntu core, but I'm not totally sure it's not a configuration fault on my side
[20:28] <cehh> jeinor: yes, I had problems w/ dhcp. I'm using manual nw config for now
[20:29] <cehh> GrueMaster: I'm getting close...Now I'm getting an error about mirror not supporting precise release
[20:29] <cehh> http://pastebin.com/2sE9cjUS
[20:31] <cehh> my preseed.cfg is at http://pastebin.com/SYArrsp8
[20:31] <smplman> cehh: i have heard the servers are getting slammed today for some reason
[21:24] <azert> hi
[21:25] <azert> i got an arm device
[21:26] <azert> i can't able to run youtube
[21:26] <azert> is that nomal ?
[22:11] <smp4488> GrueMaster: you still around?
[22:12] <GrueMaster> I'm back now.
[22:12] <GrueMaster> cehh: That mirror looks like a debian mirror, not an Ubuntu mirror.
[22:13] <GrueMaster> Nothing in it to indicate an Ubuntu mirror.
[22:14] <GrueMaster> And afaik, there are no public mirrors of ports.ubuntu.com.  I have my own private internal mirror, but that is it.
[22:19] <smp4488> GrueMaster: i needed some help with the netboot image but i got it
[22:19] <smp4488> like i said, i fumbled through it ;0)
[22:20] <GrueMaster> Ah, ok.
[22:20] <smp4488> running now
[22:20] <smp4488> GrueMaster: network configured automatically
[22:34] <smp4488> cehh: it also looks like you used the debian squeeze variant instead of the precise
[22:34] <smp4488> i did that once
[23:26] <vanhoof> hai
[23:27] <vanhoof> been having some random issues with my panda-es over the past few weeks and was curious if any of you guys have seen something similar
[23:27] <vanhoof> 12.04 server, using the preinstalled image, fully updated
[23:28] <vanhoof> over the course of a day in running, it just vanishes from the network, a quick reset and i'm up and running
[23:28] <vanhoof> have a serial console connected now to see if I can gather any other information, but anyone seen any random failures like this?
[23:29] <vanhoof> initially thought it might have been a power lackage from my PoE adapter, but have since reproduced with that out of the equasion
[23:41] <mythos> vanhoof, where is the rootfs stored? nfs, usb-hdd?