| asterismo | hi people | 03:38 |
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| asterismo | need help | 03:39 |
| asterismo | ubuntu precise wont boot after partial upgrade | 03:39 |
| asterismo | i think is network manager because when trying to boot from recovery mode with network enabled... it freezes at a network manager line | 03:40 |
| asterismo | and pressing Ctrl+C it continues until the user prompt | 03:40 |
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| asterismo | any ideas? | 03:40 |
| philipballew | asterismo, hey! | 03:43 |
| philipballew | does dropping to a non networked rootshell work? | 03:43 |
| asterismo | <philipballew> 12.04 is driving me crazy man | 03:43 |
| philipballew | asterismo, whys that? | 03:43 |
| asterismo | every time i update my system, it wont boot | 03:44 |
| asterismo | it's fuc...ing crazy | 03:44 |
| asterismo | i had installed ubuntu precise alpha 5 | 03:44 |
| asterismo | and it worked pretty fine and i did not update it since last month | 03:44 |
| philipballew | did it update the kernel as well? | 03:45 |
| asterismo | now i thought it would be fine... many kernel updates | 03:45 |
| asterismo | and overall packages | 03:45 |
| asterismo | i had kernel 3.2.0'17 | 03:45 |
| asterismo | now it's ...-23 | 03:45 |
| asterismo | the latest | 03:45 |
| asterismo | but i think it's not the kernel | 03:45 |
| philipballew | its nm? | 03:46 |
| asterismo | i can boot in recovery mode | 03:46 |
| asterismo | and choose network | 03:46 |
| asterismo | so | 03:46 |
| asterismo | i can install packages and stuff | 03:46 |
| philipballew | gui's are overrated anyway | 03:46 |
| asterismo | i have a wireless card Trendnet i think | 03:46 |
| asterismo | and it connects fine | 03:46 |
| philipballew | lscpi shows that usually | 03:46 |
| asterismo | i will reboot to show you the line in which it stucks | 03:47 |
| asterismo | lspci fine | 03:47 |
| philipballew | okay, ill be on for another two hours here. typing a paper for school | 03:47 |
| asterismo | booting in kernel 3.2.0-23 recovery mode | 03:48 |
| asterismo | choosing network | 03:48 |
| asterismo | remounting filesystem | 03:48 |
| asterismo | it shows many lines | 03:49 |
| asterismo | i type the latest 3 | 03:49 |
| asterismo | modem-manager [1095]: <info> Loaded plugin Ericsson MBM | 03:50 |
| asterismo | modem-manager [1095]: <info> Loaded plugin Gobi | 03:51 |
| philipballew | check for broken packages | 03:51 |
| asterismo | modem-manager [1095]: <info> Loaded plugin Option High-Speed | 03:51 |
| asterismo | done that | 03:51 |
| asterismo | and did also sudo apt-get install network-manager --reinstall | 03:51 |
| asterismo | and nothing | 03:51 |
| asterismo | it stucks at there but if i press Ctrl+C it continues | 03:51 |
| philipballew | try again? | 03:52 |
| asterismo | pressing Ctrl+C it follows booting and i can see a line there | 03:52 |
| asterismo | initctl: event failed | 03:52 |
| philipballew | did you google that error? | 03:52 |
| asterismo | and then prompts login | 03:52 |
| asterismo | is there anyway to disable network manager at startup? | 03:54 |
| asterismo | so i can check if is this causing my system not booting? | 03:54 |
| philipballew | id check your logs to see whats goin on | 03:56 |
| asterismo | what log should i check? | 03:57 |
| asterismo | i got it | 03:59 |
| asterismo | it was the ATI propietary drivers | 03:59 |
| asterismo | i uninstalled from terminal and it booted flawlessly | 03:59 |
| philipballew | asterismo, ati drivers. now you have a fun project to play with | 04:01 |
| asterismo | thanks <philipballew> | 04:01 |
| philipballew | no problem. | 04:01 |
| asterismo | nvidia is better or worse? | 04:01 |
| asterismo | i thought ATI was far better | 04:01 |
| philipballew | not sure. I use intel | 04:01 |
| asterismo | maybe is an update of ATI that i didn't notice | 04:02 |
| asterismo | will check | 04:02 |
| asterismo | thanks | 04:02 |
| asterismo | bye | 04:02 |
| philipballew | you can even install your own ati drivers if you want. | 04:02 |
| philipballew | have fun with ubuntu | 04:02 |
| asterismo | yeah the thing is that i need hardware acceleration 3D that open drivers do not support | 04:03 |
| asterismo | for use direct 3D in virtualbox for example | 04:03 |
| asterismo | my kig wants to play in windows with 3D games (old ones) | 04:03 |
| philipballew | you can try to play with the drivers. | 04:03 |
| asterismo | and they need that optino | 04:03 |
| asterismo | optoin | 04:03 |
| asterismo | yesh | 04:03 |
| asterismo | i will | 04:03 |
| philipballew | see if installing updated ones works. you need to update them anytime you do a kernel update | 04:04 |
| philipballew | ... | 04:04 |
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| garion | Hello, I just recently installed Ubuntu via wubu and am dual-booting windows 7 and ubuntu 11.10, I'm having trouble with my wireless, though. I have an intelwifi 1000 card and every time I try to turn the wireless on it switches back off. So I updated to see if that would help but even after I'm still having the same issues. Would anyone know how I could fix this? | 20:06 |
| Fyodorovna | garion, run in the terminal lspci identify exactly the card and look on the web with it and ubuntu or post it as well. | 20:25 |
| holstein | garion: i would just search around by model # for a bug.. i would also try the 12.04 version live and see if anything "magically" became more compatible.. | 20:44 |
| garion | that's what I just did, I saw a fix for a dell laptop, but it's not my laptop or my issue, I'm still looking though | 20:45 |
| garion | just thought i'd come and check to see if it's a common issue or not, the specific model of the card is the intel corporation centrino wireless-n 1000 | 20:46 |
| holstein | garion: you need to look by chipset.. run in a terminal lspci | 20:46 |
| holstein | garion: its more about the chipset than the model or machine | 20:47 |
| holstein | you can have 2 similar models with different chipsets | 20:47 |
| holstein | its quite common for vendors to not support linux | 20:47 |
| holstein | but, intel is usually easier than others | 20:47 |
| garion | 0 down vote | 20:49 |
| garion | 20:49 | |
| garion | Unfortunately, the N-1000 series doesn't work correctly on the 2.6 kernel. The current best work-around is to disable the card's wireless-N connectivity and operate on b/g only. It's not ideal, but it works. | 20:49 |
| garion | ouch... -__- | 20:49 |
| garion | does 12.04 work on a different kernel? | 20:49 |
| philipballew | garion, upgrade to 12.04 | 20:50 |
| philipballew | its 3.2 | 20:50 |
| philipballew | or try with a live cd | 20:50 |
| philipballew | or compat wireless | 20:50 |
| garion | okay, can I upgrade through the terminal or will I need a live cd? | 20:50 |
| philipballew | you can use the upgrade manager | 20:51 |
| philipballew | !12.04 | 20:51 |
| ubot2 | Ubuntu 12.04 LTS (Precise Pangolin) is the 16th release of Ubuntu and is in Beta testing from 2nd March, Discussion and support until final release in #ubuntu+1 | 20:51 |
| philipballew | hold on | 20:51 |
| garion | nevermind | 20:51 |
| philipballew | ill find the update instructions | 20:51 |
| philipballew | ignore the +1 | 20:51 |
| garion | I just found it | 20:51 |
| garion | thanks | 20:51 |
| philipballew | okay! | 20:51 |
| garion | as soon as I asked I felt like an idiot for not looking first. >.M | 20:51 |
| garion | >.<* | 20:52 |
| philipballew | garion, its all good | 20:53 |
| garion | yeah, it's not letting me update through the update manager so I'm just gonna re-install. That's what I did in the first place anyways, lol... Eventually I'm gonna run Ubuntu stand-alone but I'm still kind of scared to make the switch permanent so for now I'm gonna stay dual-booting | 20:57 |
| philipballew | garion, well you need to run it as a pre release | 21:01 |
| philipballew | update manager -d I think | 21:01 |
| Fyodorovna | upgrade a wubi? | 21:08 |
| Fyodorovna | holstein, hey man new nic I have graduated from my bachelor studies, yipee | 21:09 |
| philipballew | id not install a wubi personally | 21:12 |
| Fyodorovna | tried it just for fun and a bootscript to have when needed for helping wubi users a while back, did not keep it though. | 21:13 |
| bodhi_zazen | the -d option for update manager is the most misunderstood feature | 21:22 |
| bodhi_zazen | -d == update to development release | 21:22 |
| bodhi_zazen | After the release, you do NOT want to use that | 21:23 |
| bodhi_zazen | http://www.ubuntu.com/download/ubuntu/upgrade | 21:23 |
| bodhi_zazen | philipballew: ^^ | 21:23 |
| bodhi_zazen | sudo do-release-upgrade | 21:24 |
| bodhi_zazen | https://help.ubuntu.com/community/OneiricUpgrades | 21:24 |
| philipballew | bodhi_zazen, yeah, but 12.04 is still in dev stage for another say 48 hours? | 21:24 |
| bodhi_zazen | yea, the only reason I am objecting , if people run that command AFTER 48 hours ... | 21:25 |
| bodhi_zazen | update-manager -d is *everywhere* | 21:25 |
| bodhi_zazen | need to remind people what to be advising in 48 hours or so | 21:25 |
| bioterror | hahaha | 21:25 |
| bioterror | all the ubuntu servers are hammered when the release hits | 21:26 |
| bodhi_zazen | You can also upgrade from the alternate cd | 21:26 |
| bioterror | it's like legal ddosing ;) | 21:26 |
| bodhi_zazen | sudo mkdir -p /media/cdrom | 21:26 |
| bodhi_zazen | sudo mount -o loop ~/Desktop/ubuntu-11.10-alternate-i386.iso /media/cdrom | 21:26 |
| bodhi_zazen | gksu "sh /media/cdrom/cdromupgrade" | 21:26 |
| Fyodorovna | you can upgrade from the live cd as well | 21:26 |
| bodhi_zazen | Fyodorovna: I think the live CD is a fresh install, it just preserves /home | 21:27 |
| bodhi_zazen | not 100% sure on that | 21:27 |
| philipballew | or update in march! | 21:27 |
| Fyodorovna | bodhi_zazen, ah was not sure how it ran. | 21:27 |
| bodhi_zazen | https://help.ubuntu.com/community/PreciseUpgrades | 21:28 |
| * bodhi_zazen updates to ubuntu-libre | 21:31 | |
| philipballew | Im running ubuntu 13.04. Much better then 12.10 | 21:33 |
| Fyodorovna | philipballew, lol | 21:35 |
| bodhi_zazen | Fyodorovna: I was told you can not upgrade from the desktop CD | 21:36 |
| bodhi_zazen | that would be a fresh install + the option to preserve /home | 21:36 |
| Fyodorovna | bodhi_zazen, I wondered about that I saw the option with a single partiton. | 21:36 |
| bodhi_zazen | I've not tried it | 21:37 |
| bodhi_zazen | suggesting information added to https://help.ubuntu.com/community/PreciseUpgrades | 21:37 |
| Fyodorovna | bodhi_zazen, I had precise installed and just for kicks ran the upgrade on a oneiric as well, I image all my installs though. | 21:38 |
| bodhi_zazen | I upgraded , with each release, 8.04 -> 8.10 -> ... 12.04 | 21:44 |
| bodhi_zazen | oops , 11.04 | 21:44 |
| bodhi_zazen | the upgrade 11.04 -> 12.04 killed it | 21:44 |
| bodhi_zazen | after all that experience, I am going to side with the "just fresh install" camp | 21:44 |
| bodhi_zazen | I keep a separate /data partition, so nothing of consequence in /home anyways | 21:45 |
| Fyodorovna | bodhi_zazen, I always fresh install I only get about 650mb with a download cap so a fresh install is much faster, I save the installed in a bash to reinstall. | 21:47 |
| Fyodorovna | I keep all the extras on external HD's the computer is basically just a OS, usually several. | 21:49 |
| bodhi_zazen | Sounds great Fyodorovna | 22:18 |
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