[03:38] <asterismo> hi people
[03:39] <asterismo> need help
[03:39] <asterismo> ubuntu precise wont boot after partial upgrade
[03:40] <asterismo> i think is network manager because when trying to boot from recovery mode with network enabled... it freezes at a network manager line
[03:40] <asterismo> and pressing Ctrl+C it continues until the user prompt
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[03:40] <asterismo> any ideas?
[03:43] <philipballew> asterismo, hey!
[03:43] <philipballew> does dropping to a non networked rootshell work?
[03:43] <asterismo> <philipballew> 12.04 is driving me crazy man
[03:43] <philipballew> asterismo, whys that?
[03:44] <asterismo> every time i update my system, it wont boot
[03:44] <asterismo> it's fuc...ing crazy
[03:44] <asterismo> i had installed ubuntu precise alpha 5
[03:44] <asterismo> and it worked pretty fine and i did not update it since last month
[03:45] <philipballew> did it update the kernel as well?
[03:45] <asterismo>  now i thought it would be fine... many kernel updates
[03:45] <asterismo> and overall packages
[03:45] <asterismo> i had kernel 3.2.0'17
[03:45] <asterismo> now it's ...-23
[03:45] <asterismo> the latest
[03:45] <asterismo> but i think it's not the kernel
[03:46] <philipballew> its nm?
[03:46] <asterismo> i can boot in recovery mode
[03:46] <asterismo> and choose network
[03:46] <asterismo> so
[03:46] <asterismo> i can install packages and stuff
[03:46] <philipballew> gui's are overrated anyway
[03:46] <asterismo> i have a wireless card Trendnet i think
[03:46] <asterismo> and it connects fine
[03:46] <philipballew> lscpi shows that usually
[03:47] <asterismo> i will reboot to show you the line in which it stucks
[03:47] <asterismo> lspci fine
[03:47] <philipballew> okay, ill be on for another two hours here. typing a paper for school
[03:48] <asterismo> booting in kernel 3.2.0-23 recovery mode
[03:48] <asterismo> choosing network
[03:48] <asterismo> remounting filesystem
[03:49] <asterismo> it shows many lines
[03:49] <asterismo> i type the latest 3
[03:50] <asterismo> modem-manager [1095]:  <info> Loaded plugin Ericsson MBM
[03:51] <asterismo> modem-manager [1095]:  <info> Loaded plugin Gobi
[03:51] <philipballew> check for broken packages
[03:51] <asterismo> modem-manager [1095]:  <info> Loaded plugin Option High-Speed
[03:51] <asterismo> done that
[03:51] <asterismo> and did also sudo apt-get install network-manager --reinstall
[03:51] <asterismo> and nothing
[03:51] <asterismo> it stucks at there but if i press Ctrl+C it continues
[03:52] <philipballew> try again?
[03:52] <asterismo> pressing Ctrl+C it follows booting and i can see a line there
[03:52] <asterismo> initctl: event failed
[03:52] <philipballew> did you google that error?
[03:52] <asterismo> and then prompts login
[03:54] <asterismo> is there anyway to disable network manager at startup?
[03:54] <asterismo> so i can check if is this causing my system not booting?
[03:56] <philipballew> id check your logs to see whats goin on
[03:57] <asterismo> what log should i check?
[03:59] <asterismo> i got it
[03:59] <asterismo> it was the ATI propietary drivers
[03:59] <asterismo> i uninstalled from terminal and it booted flawlessly
[04:01] <philipballew> asterismo, ati drivers. now you have a fun project to play with
[04:01] <asterismo> thanks <philipballew>
[04:01] <philipballew> no problem.
[04:01] <asterismo> nvidia is better or worse?
[04:01] <asterismo> i thought ATI was far  better
[04:01] <philipballew> not sure. I use intel
[04:02] <asterismo> maybe is an update of ATI that i didn't notice
[04:02] <asterismo> will check
[04:02] <asterismo> thanks
[04:02] <asterismo> bye
[04:02] <philipballew> you can even install your own ati drivers if you want.
[04:02] <philipballew> have fun with ubuntu
[04:03] <asterismo> yeah the thing is that i need hardware acceleration 3D that open drivers do not support
[04:03] <asterismo> for use direct 3D in virtualbox for example
[04:03] <asterismo> my kig wants to play in windows with 3D games (old ones)
[04:03] <philipballew> you can try to play with the drivers.
[04:03] <asterismo> and they need that optino
[04:03] <asterismo> optoin
[04:03] <asterismo> yesh
[04:03] <asterismo> i will
[04:04] <philipballew> see if installing updated ones works. you need to update them anytime you do a kernel update
[04:04] <philipballew> ...
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[20:06] <garion> Hello, I just recently installed Ubuntu via wubu and am dual-booting windows 7 and ubuntu 11.10, I'm having trouble with my wireless, though. I have an intelwifi 1000 card and every time I try to turn the wireless on it switches back off. So I updated to see if that would help but even after I'm still having the same issues. Would anyone know how I could fix this?
[20:25] <Fyodorovna> garion, run in the terminal lspci identify exactly the card and look on the web with it and ubuntu or post it as well.
[20:44] <holstein> garion: i would just search around by model # for a bug.. i would also try the 12.04 version live and see if anything "magically" became more compatible..
[20:45] <garion> that's what I just did, I saw a fix for a dell laptop, but it's not my laptop or my issue, I'm still looking though
[20:46] <garion> just thought i'd come and check to see if it's a common issue or not, the specific model of the card is the intel corporation centrino wireless-n 1000
[20:46] <holstein> garion: you need to look by chipset.. run in a terminal lspci
[20:47] <holstein> garion: its more about the chipset than the model or machine
[20:47] <holstein> you can have 2 similar models with different chipsets
[20:47] <holstein> its quite common for vendors to not support linux
[20:47] <holstein> but, intel is usually easier than others
[20:49] <garion> 0 down vote
[20:49] <garion> 	
[20:49] <garion> Unfortunately, the N-1000 series doesn't work correctly on the 2.6 kernel. The current best work-around is to disable the card's wireless-N connectivity and operate on b/g only. It's not ideal, but it works.
[20:49] <garion> ouch... -__-
[20:49] <garion> does 12.04 work on a different kernel?
[20:50] <philipballew> garion, upgrade to 12.04
[20:50] <philipballew> its 3.2
[20:50] <philipballew> or try with a live cd
[20:50] <philipballew> or compat wireless
[20:50] <garion> okay, can I upgrade through the terminal or will I need a live cd?
[20:51] <philipballew> you can use the upgrade manager
[20:51] <philipballew> !12.04
[20:51] <ubot2> Ubuntu 12.04 LTS (Precise Pangolin) is the 16th release of Ubuntu and is in Beta testing from 2nd March, Discussion and support until final release in #ubuntu+1
[20:51] <philipballew> hold on
[20:51] <garion> nevermind
[20:51] <philipballew> ill find the update instructions
[20:51] <philipballew> ignore the +1
[20:51] <garion> I just found it
[20:51] <garion> thanks
[20:51] <philipballew> okay!
[20:51] <garion> as soon as I asked I felt like an idiot for not looking first. >.M
[20:52] <garion> >.<*
[20:53] <philipballew> garion, its all good
[20:57] <garion> yeah, it's not letting me update through the update manager so I'm just gonna re-install. That's what I did in the first place anyways, lol... Eventually I'm gonna run Ubuntu stand-alone but I'm still kind of scared to make the switch permanent so for now I'm gonna stay dual-booting
[21:01] <philipballew> garion, well you need to run it as a pre release
[21:01] <philipballew> update manager -d I think
[21:08] <Fyodorovna> upgrade a wubi?
[21:09] <Fyodorovna> holstein, hey man new nic I have graduated from my bachelor studies, yipee
[21:12] <philipballew> id not install a wubi personally
[21:13] <Fyodorovna> tried it just for fun and a bootscript to have when needed for helping wubi users a while back, did not keep it though.
[21:22] <bodhi_zazen> the -d option for update manager is the most misunderstood feature
[21:22] <bodhi_zazen> -d == update to development release
[21:23] <bodhi_zazen> After the release, you do NOT want to use that
[21:23] <bodhi_zazen> http://www.ubuntu.com/download/ubuntu/upgrade
[21:23] <bodhi_zazen> philipballew: ^^
[21:24] <bodhi_zazen> sudo do-release-upgrade
[21:24] <bodhi_zazen> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/OneiricUpgrades
[21:24] <philipballew> bodhi_zazen, yeah, but 12.04 is still in dev stage for another say 48 hours?
[21:25] <bodhi_zazen> yea, the only reason I am objecting , if people run that command AFTER 48 hours ...
[21:25] <bodhi_zazen> update-manager -d is *everywhere*
[21:25] <bodhi_zazen> need to remind people what to be advising in 48 hours or so
[21:25] <bioterror> hahaha
[21:26] <bioterror> all the ubuntu servers are hammered when the release hits
[21:26] <bodhi_zazen> You can also upgrade from the alternate cd
[21:26] <bioterror> it's like legal ddosing ;)
[21:26] <bodhi_zazen> sudo mkdir -p /media/cdrom
[21:26] <bodhi_zazen> sudo mount -o loop ~/Desktop/ubuntu-11.10-alternate-i386.iso /media/cdrom
[21:26] <bodhi_zazen> gksu "sh /media/cdrom/cdromupgrade"
[21:26] <Fyodorovna> you can upgrade from the live cd as well
[21:27] <bodhi_zazen> Fyodorovna: I think the live CD is a fresh install, it just preserves /home
[21:27] <bodhi_zazen> not 100% sure on that
[21:27] <philipballew> or update in march!
[21:27] <Fyodorovna> bodhi_zazen, ah was not sure how it ran.
[21:28] <bodhi_zazen> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/PreciseUpgrades
[21:31]  * bodhi_zazen updates to ubuntu-libre
[21:33] <philipballew> Im running ubuntu 13.04. Much better then 12.10
[21:35] <Fyodorovna> philipballew, lol
[21:36] <bodhi_zazen> Fyodorovna: I was told you can not upgrade from the desktop CD
[21:36] <bodhi_zazen> that would be a fresh install + the option to preserve /home
[21:36] <Fyodorovna> bodhi_zazen, I wondered about that I saw the option with a single partiton.
[21:37] <bodhi_zazen> I've not tried it
[21:37] <bodhi_zazen> suggesting information added to https://help.ubuntu.com/community/PreciseUpgrades
[21:38] <Fyodorovna> bodhi_zazen, I had precise installed and just for kicks ran the upgrade on a oneiric as well, I image all my installs though.
[21:44] <bodhi_zazen> I upgraded , with each release, 8.04 -> 8.10 -> ... 12.04
[21:44] <bodhi_zazen> oops , 11.04
[21:44] <bodhi_zazen> the upgrade 11.04 -> 12.04 killed it
[21:44] <bodhi_zazen> after all that experience, I am going to side with the "just fresh install" camp
[21:45] <bodhi_zazen> I keep a separate /data partition, so nothing of consequence in /home anyways
[21:47] <Fyodorovna> bodhi_zazen, I always fresh install I only get about 650mb with a download cap so a fresh install is much faster, I save the installed in a bash to reinstall.
[21:49] <Fyodorovna> I keep all the extras on external HD's the computer is basically just a OS, usually several.
[22:18] <bodhi_zazen> Sounds great Fyodorovna
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