=== jbicha is now known as Guest27716 [00:30] hah [00:30] "I’ve found a really great use for systemd. If you want to know if someone is sane you can ask them their opinion on it, if they say that they love systemd and that everyone should use it, then you know that something is very wrong with them." [00:34] <_<" [00:43] xD [02:35] akgraner: Evening === Jacky is now known as jalcine [05:35] ok, so my Ubuntu flash-intro is completed! Wohoo. Now, I just need to chop off the first four and last three seconds of the ogg video. Does anyone have a fast way of doing that? [05:37] jo-erlend: I'd use openshot [05:41] doctormon, that's what I used, but it turned out I have to chop off the beginning and end. I'd rather not have to reencode. Does OpenShot enable that? [05:51] oggz-chop was able to remove the end of it, but not the beginning. Weird. [05:53] when I try with OpenShot, everything becomes scrambled. [05:53] audio and video goes completely out of sync. [06:00] jo-erlend: I'm actually having problems with openshot atm. shopping off the start of my video [06:01] doctormon, great. Then let's cooperate, if we're doing the exact same thing? :) [06:02] using oggz-chop from oggz-tools, it seems I'm able to get sequences, but not the one I want. [06:03] * bkerensa loves openshot [06:05] bkerensa, but it doesn't work for what I need it to do. [06:05] well. Perhaps I can try to start over... [06:12] think that may have worked quite well. [06:16] my only grief with it is that it only uses a single core to process. I have six of them, so that's a waste. [06:20] I think I got a very cool finish by shear luck. Looking forward to seeing it when it's finished :) [06:36] jono_: I have another volunteer for CLS who has a car :) [06:37] http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Sup9KgvH7Dk <-- Nice, huh?! :) [06:44] good morning [06:45] It doesn't like ogv files, I converted to mkv/mpeg4 using ffmpeg [06:50] hi dholbach [06:50] bkerensa, nice! [06:50] can you email me the details? [06:50] bed for me now, night1 [07:10] good morning all! [07:31] good morning dpm [07:31] hey bkerensa, how's everything going? :) [07:32] dpm: uhh just getting read to get this release done with and UDS behind us :) [07:32] ready** [07:33] yeah, I think we're all like that :) [07:33] dpm: then rinse and repeat === rastamouse is now known as nothingspecial === huats_ is now known as huats === jbicha is now known as Guest17744 === Guest17744 is now known as jbicha_ === jalcine- is now known as Jacky [13:38] AlanBell, popey - https://fbcdn-sphotos-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-ash4/373982_265334170215072_222300871185069_593939_398215845_n.jpg [13:40] hah [13:40] hi nigelb and good day everyone else [13:42] Hey forestpiskie :) [14:24] nigelb: I'm also British ;-) also subscribed to chap and wear a bowler hat with a picket watch. [14:24] Harumph [14:24] doctormon: hahaha. totally forgot :D [14:24] doctormon: How's Violet doing? [14:24] Moaning at the moment, progressing to crying. [14:24] Heh [14:24] how are you? [14:25] Good. [14:25] doctormon: you should draw nigelb [14:41] doctormon: sounds like she is hungry [14:41] mhall119, cjohnston visa rejected :'( [14:44] daker: aww :( [14:44] man, that sucks [14:44] daker, :-(((((((((((((((( [14:44] daker:-( [14:44] * dholbach hugs daker [14:44] * dholbach hugs daker [14:44] * dholbach hugs daker [14:44] * dholbach hugs daker [14:44] man, why, did they reject? [14:44] * cprofitt hugs dholbach and daker [14:45] sorry to hear that daker [14:45] * nigelb hugs daker [14:45] Don't worry, everyone goes through one of these. [14:46] daker, if you can't come to UDS, UDS should come to you! [14:47] amen to that. [14:47] Casablanca UDS! I'd love that. [14:47] maybe not today, maybe not tomorrow [14:47] I'm shocked! Shocked to find drinking going on at this conference [14:48] mhall119: <3 [14:48] we can all dress up in 1940's attire [14:48] doctormon already has it all [14:53] dholbach, thank you all ツ [14:54] nigelb, Marrakech UDS ツ [14:54] yes, Marrakech would be nice :) [14:57] I have no puns about Marrakech [14:58] :-/ [14:58] mhall119, you don't need puns there - just take your camera - you'd love it there :) [14:59] alrighty [14:59] ;p [15:00] dholbach: I bet I would [15:00] ... and the food [15:00] dholbach, jcastro, mhall119, balloons, dpm meeting time! [15:00] yup [15:00] #startmeeting [15:00] Meeting started Tue Apr 24 15:00:27 2012 UTC. The chair is jono. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.ubuntu.com/meetingology. [15:00] Available commands: #accept #accepted #action #agree #agreed #chair #commands #endmeeting #endvote #halp #help #idea #info #link #lurk #meetingname #meetingtopic #nick #progress #rejected #replay #restrictlogs #save #startmeeting #subtopic #topic #unchair #undo #unlurk #vote #voters #votesrequired [15:00] Welcome one and all to the Canonical Community Team meeting! [15:00] a place where you can find the latest goings on in this venerable team [15:01] prepare for a collection of status updates from this cacophony of wide eyed bandits [15:01] first up...a man who rejects the idea that "there are enough developers" [15:01] ...dholbach! [15:01] hello! :) [15:01] ☺ Dev Advisory Team: Continued review and improvements to the report of feedback we got from new contributors. Andrew mailed it out, I blogged it. Started to get in touch with contributors who mentioned docs as a shortcoming, to ask them to help identify and fix specific issues. [15:02] ☺ Dev News: Got another dev update out, this time's highlight: getting last-minute fixes in. [15:02] ☺ Sponsoring: Got some eyes on the sponsoring queue to make a decision about the items in there and figure out if we want to have them for 12.04 or 12.10. Current count: 50 items. Produced list of folks who didn't patch pilot. Had my patch pilot shift today as well. [15:02] err Current count: 33 [15:02] ☺ Dev Infrastructure: fixed bugs in Harvest API - it was never used much, so there were quite a few things which had to be brushed up to make it truly useful. Worked on Dev Opportunities Lens, and got a first cut ready to work, now working on introducing categories/scope functionality. [15:03] ☺ CC: set up CC Trello - no more agenda writing, less note-taking - YAY. Posted new version of CoC to get more feedback from everyone - will be discussed in next CC meeting. Had some followup discussions. CC meeting with the ARB. [15:03] ☺ 12.10 preparation: some small edits and refinement to 12.10 plans. Filed blueprints. [15:03] ☺ Apps: Had a call with dpm, jono and mhall119 about getting apps into Ubuntu. Call with mvo about /opt requirement for ARB apps. Prepared https://wiki.ubuntu.com/OptRequirement - talked to several TB members about the topic. Sumarised meeting with CC/ARB. Had a chat with Michael Nelson about myApps priorities, discussed some specific bug fixes. Had several more phone calls with Michael Vogt about different ways to do app review [15:03] s in the future. [15:03] ☺ Misc: Helped some more with packaging the accomplishments bits. Helped jedimike with some django packaging. Did a server test install, which will become my Q devel vm - worked perfectly. [15:04] That's it from me. [15:04] * dpm hugs dholbach [15:04] * dholbach hugs dpm back :) [15:04] any questions for dholbach? [15:04] I'm looking forward to working with dpm some more in Q :) [15:04] dholbach: is MyApps open to community contributions?/ [15:05] \o/ [15:05] mhall119, no [15:05] mhall119, you mean as others could review apps as well? [15:05] this is one area we need to fix [15:05] dholbach: I mean for adding features [15:05] oh I assumed you mean open source [15:05] ah no [15:05] to MyApps itself [15:05] not AFAIK [15:05] I can ask noodles about it [15:05] I talked to davidpitkin about focusing on this in the 13.04 cycle [15:05] for 12.10 we will request changes to their team [15:06] dholbach, so I would like to ask you to prepare a blueprint that summarizes all required MyApps changes [15:06] that we can present to David Pitkin for review after UDS [15:06] ok [15:06] importantly, we should only request changes that we are confident will bring a real and practical impact to the ARB [15:07] yes [15:07] thanks [15:07] any other questions? [15:07] \o/ [15:07] alrighty [15:07] next up... [15:08] ...you don't know this yet, but you are about to write a new app for Ubuntu...and he will make it happen... [15:08] ...dpm! [15:08] hey everyone! [15:08] so here we go [15:08] App Developers [15:08] [15:09] • Discussed app developer 12.10 strategy with jono and mhall119 [15:09] • Finished off 12.10 app developer strategy with mhall119 [15:09] • Had chats and did some research with dholbach about the /opt packaging requirement for ARB apps [15:10] • Reviewed, edited and published davidc3's tutorial on creating a unity lens for the Wikipedia [15:10] • Wrote and published monthly top 10 apps blog post [15:10] • Rearranged the d.u.c. tutorials section to be the "App developer cookbook" after a conversation with jono. It's on http://developer.ubuntu.com/resources/app-developer-cookbook/all-recipes/ [15:11] • Started working on a form to facilitate sending tutorials [15:12] • Participated in the CC/ARB meeting [15:12] [15:12] Translators [15:12] [15:12] A crazy week it was [15:12] as it was the translations deadline [15:13] • Spent quite a lot of time fixing Kubuntu translation templates in Launchpad due to a bug in the packaging [15:13] • Discussed final language pack schedule with pitti [15:13] • Ubuntu 12.04 Simplified Chinese translation: [15:14] ∘ Discussed and arranged the schedule for the final language pack containing the final translations [15:14] ∘ Set up the final translation to be prioritized and uploaded in time for the deadline in Launchpad [15:14] • Created final version of the 12.04 translations contributors list for the release notes credits section [15:15] • Helped the Web Design team updating translations for the Ubuntu Online Tour and the extended tour [15:15] ∘ http://people.canonical.com/~dpm/12.04/zh-CN/ [15:15] ∘ http://people.canonical.com/~dpm/extended-tour/zh-CN/ [15:15] • Helped jbicha with the multilingual help.ubuntu.com setup [15:15] [15:15] Other [15:15] [15:16] • Had some spare time one evening last week and set up the Ubuntu Code of Conduct for translations === jbicha_ is now known as jbicha [15:16] and that was all from me [15:17] any questions for dpm? [15:18] the cookbook section looks much nicer [15:18] +1 dpm [15:18] * dholbach hugs dpm [15:18] glad you like it :) [15:18] now we need more recipes! [15:18] thank you for not calling them charms [15:18] and app devs to join the cooking fest [15:18] or candystix or somesuch [15:18] hahaha [15:18] will there be a flavours section if people will populate it? [15:18] :-) [15:19] dpm: we should probably make a note of which language the tutorials use [15:19] mhall119, yeah, that's a good idea. We need to think how to record this kind of info. I was thinking of tags and categories, but by default it seems WP pages don't use tags or categories [15:20] or will things more relatd to other DE's just go straight in? [15:20] for posts it does, maybe not pages [15:20] yes, that's what I meant, pages don't support them [15:20] jussi: things for other DE will probably be linked to in the "elsewhere on the web" sections [15:21] k [15:21] alrighty [15:21] next up! [15:21] dpm: we can probably just group them on the page, we can brainstorm after the meeting [15:21] ...a man with a bad case of the Juju... [15:21] ...jcastro! [15:21] WOO! [15:21] # Welcome to my Weekly Report [15:21] This week's report brought to you by Iron Maiden: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UP2EjZ5lKkA [15:21] Short week as I was travelling last week. [15:21] ## OpenStack Conference [15:22] - Mark demoed Bare metal to deployed OpenStack. This takes about _12 minutes_. We also announced full OpenStack backports for their next 4 releases back to 12.04. Great show that is growing very quickly. [15:22] - Did a charm school with Clint, about ~50 people. Clint nailed it, best charm school we've had so far. 2 hours of questions and demos! [15:22] - Clint finished the SPDY charm, deploy it today! http://www.jorgecastro.org/2012/04/17/want-to-mess-with-spdy-easily-come-experiment-with-it-via-juju/ [15:22] ## Todo/Doing this week [15:22] I am going to UDS a week early so I am on a time crunch! Main problem is I haven't been getting enough volunteers for OpenWeek, any help here would be appreciated! [15:22] - IS says they should be able to fix the forums SSO problem on Wednesday. <-- s-fox [15:22] - Put the plenaries on the schedule (they are scheduled just not on the sched) [15:22] - Schedule blueprints for myself, coordinate juju ones with team. [15:22] - Calxeda and Dell demos for UDS [15:22] - Say "marbles" at the end of this report if you're paying attention. [15:22] - Other plenary follow up with derivatives, other presenters, etc. [15:22] - https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuOpenWeek is behind, I need help getting people to do sessions; unfortunately mhall, balloons, and I will be at OAK. Any help here would be appreciated! [15:22] - All the stuff on my next/inprogress (see link below) [15:23] ## Other [15:23] cjohnston: you should do a session on summit and remote participation [15:23] - I am in UDS mode all next week, if you need something done, this is the week to bug me about it, next week I am in the land of magical juju charms and candy canes. [15:23] - My Trello breakdown: http://strapello.com/user/jorgecastro [15:23] STATUS REPORT ALL THE THINGS, Questions? [15:23] marbles [15:23] :) [15:23] :) [15:24] well at least somebody way ;) [15:24] marbles :-P [15:24] was [15:24] any questions for jcastro? [15:24] jcastro: how much is missing from the open week stuff? [15:24] and what exactly needs doing [15:25] https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuOpenWeek [15:25] 7 open sessions [15:25] I need 7 more sessions/instructors [15:27] ok, no more questions? [15:27] oh wait! [15:27] hey so I've put out like 3 calls for instructors, ideas for more? [15:28] I'm kind of becoming a desperate begging mess. :) [15:28] jcastro: Im just attempting to get someone [15:28] jcastro: voluntell ! [15:28] rawk, I'll go whine to devel one more time I think and voluntell people [15:28] cjohnston: do a UOW session or I won't review any more summit MPs [15:28] :) [15:28] daker: would you be willing to run a session about loco team portal, how to use it, etc? [15:29] ma [15:29] mhall119, ok ツ when ? [15:30] daker: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuOpenWeek has the schedule [15:30] any time that's open [15:30] jcastro: next time, let's not schedule this during the design sprint :) [15:31] morning all [15:31] pleia pointed out there's a missing week this time [15:31] hi technoviking [15:31] ok lets move along [15:31] next up... [15:31] ...quality is something that defines this guy... [15:31] ...balloons! [15:31] :-) [15:32] the intros never get old [15:32] :-) [15:32] just so you know jcastro QA is by far the most exciting thing going on this week :) [15:32] indeed! [15:33] Met with QA team to review the cycle and reflect on positives and negatives. Did a bit of self-reflection on what testing processes went well and what didn't. I'm happy to hear feedback on your experiences with the calls for testing, manual app testing, iso testing, or any other testing imitative we had this cycle. [15:33] Talked with elopio from ubuntu one about moztrap, played around with his test instance. [15:34] Kicked off adopting an iso. The goal was to promote iso testing for this last bit of precise. Over 100 folks responded and agreed to do their best in helping test. This has been amazing. [15:35] Fun fact -- I sent and recieved over 200 emails in 24 hours on the iso testing subject. Talking to everyone was a blast ;-) I'm glad I decided to go the email route -- I hope it was enjoyable getting a live connection to a person instead of just a wiki page [15:35] If you haven't / weren't able to help with iso testing, remember there will be more opportunities to get involved next cycle. [15:35] Looking at the top testers report, http://iso.qa.ubuntu.com/qatracker/reports/testers, we see several new faces in the top ten, and 96 different iso testers. This is a testament to those that stepped up and volunteered for iso testing. [15:36] Blueprints and UDS planning has been in full swing. On the QA side we have several great conversations for UDS surrounding our tool adoption and strategy going forward, as well as continuing to reach new people and grow our QA community. [15:37] Made plans to buy a new system so I can test more/better next cycle. (new hardware, yummy!) Yes all of you testers with multiple systems and big screens out there made me jealous, lol. [15:37] :-) [15:37] Also recruiting volunteers for a QA session or two during open week. Heading to UDS early with jcastro and mhall119. I have the ideas, if you don't know what to speak about :-) [15:38] .. [15:40] crickets... [15:40] * balloons wonders if he dc'd [15:40] we didn't know you were done [15:40] ".." is release team meeting speak for "I'm done" [15:40] yeah you need to say you are done balloons [15:40] mhall119, that's always an easy answer, lol [15:40] we are not mind readers :-) [15:41] I'm never done [15:41] haha [15:41] sorry :-) [15:41] alrighty [15:41] I will take questions tho [15:41] any questions for balloons? [15:41] hehe [15:41] with the email thing, did you have to keep everybody in the loop with what everyone else was doing? [15:41] or was that not really a concern [15:42] mhall119, no the iso tracker handled that piece.. but it was handy to speak directly to everyone about what was going on with the iso's and what the focus should be each day, etc [15:42] like, for my blogs on quicklists and keywords, I had people leave comments about which app they were working on, to avoid duplication of effort [15:42] ah, ok [15:42] yea [15:42] plus I assigned them an iso, based upon what they said they would/could test [15:43] that I think worked out very well [15:43] jcastro, sorry, MARBLES!!! [15:43] haha :) [15:43] we got excellent coverage that way, where we traditionally don't since everyone tests the more popular iso's [15:43] dpm: just now? [15:44] :-) [15:44] alrighty [15:44] next up! [15:44] I was being pinged by somebody else and was in another conversation :) [15:44] ...a man swimming upstream and make them rock and roll in Ubuntu...this guy will make your software experience in Ubuntu 12.10 a good time for everyone involved... [15:44] ...mhall119! [15:44] :) [15:45] * Brainstorming improvements for App developers for the 12.10 cycl [15:45] if you've noticed a theme, you're right! We're going to make Ubuntu rock for app developers [15:45] * Refactored developer portal Unity docs to make them more prominent and accessible: http://developer.ubuntu.com/resources/ [15:46] I'll be monitoring the traffic to see where we can improve getting people to the useful information [15:46] but we've already seen a slight increase in people looking at the Unity docs, and even more so the API pages, thanks in part to... [15:46] * Added API documentation pages for both 11.04 and 12.04: http://developer.ubuntu.com/resources/platform/api/ [15:47] so we now cover every version of Ubuntu that shipped with Unity as default [15:47] * Got with jbicha and bkerensa to collect documentation contributors for the 12.04 cycle [15:47] thanks again bkerensa [15:47] * Defined my objectives for the 12.10 cycle [15:47] very, very excited about what we're going to be doing in the next 6 months [15:48] * Started tracking upstreams to bring into USC [15:48] * Blogged about Ubuntu for App Developers [15:48] got a lot of traffic from that one, people are *definitely* interested in our app developer story [15:48] bring it! [15:48] * Helped cjohnston with some enhancements to summit.ubuntu.com [15:49] Track leads will now be able to create, approve and schedule meetings for their tracks! [15:49] * Finished and Published the new Unity contributor documentation: http://unity.ubuntu.com/getinvolved/ [15:49] :-) [15:50] my gimp-fu is getting pretty good after all those screenshots and banners [15:50] heh [15:50] * Got Precise main and universe packages added to screenshots.debian.net [15:50] And finally [15:50] * Added sound menu example to hello-unity: http://ubuntuone.com/2usdghRU9SfugPYMOqZHqA [15:50] * mhall119 is done [15:50] I've said it repeatedly, but I love the new API pages [15:51] :) [15:51] cool on the sound menu :-) [15:51] * dpm is also excited about 12.10 and app developers [15:51] dpm, totally :-) [15:51] any questions for mhall119? [15:51] mhall119: no problem.... Still hoping for sumo in help.ubuntu.com ;p [15:52] bkerensa: yup, on my list to do [15:52] bkerensa, can you help lead that project? [15:52] bkerensa, mhall119 is going to be bery busy in 12.10, so help coordinating the sumo implementation for help.u.c would be great [15:52] bkerensa: what is up with help.ubuntu.com? [15:53] cprofitt: just evaluating alternatives to moinmoin [15:53] ah,... cool [15:53] jono: I would have to confer with mdke and jbicha but yeah that is something I am interested in Q [15:53] bkerensa, cool, could you check into it and let us know? [15:53] jono: yep will do [15:54] I know some of the forum guys are working on adding content so perhaps some of them might be interested in helping too [15:54] I am sure mhall119 can help support this work [15:54] bodhi_zazen: ping [15:54] but we really need someone else to drive it [15:54] alrighty... [15:54] cprofitt: Yeah I am the Forums Council's Doc Team Contact guy I guess [15:54] bkerensa: cool!! [15:54] I will go last I guess... [15:54] cprofitt: we can discuss in #ubuntu-doc if you want [15:55] shorter week this week due to a week of conference work [15:55] * cprofitt nods [15:55] * Team: [15:55] - Things are looking good as we wrap up the 12.04 cycle. [15:55] * 12.10 Planning: [15:55] - Lots of discussion with each of the guys about their respective plans. [15:55] - Reviewed plans with other key stakeholders. [15:55] - The 12.10 plan is now finalized. [15:55] * UDS: [15:55] - Scheduling is going ahead. [15:55] - Coordinating various partner and sponsor requirements. [15:55] - Coordinating the social events. [15:56] * App Review Board: [15:56] - Summarized various areas of focus for ARB optimization. [15:56] - Working with the team to start focusing on these different areas and track our work there. [15:56] * OpenStack Conference: [15:56] - The majority of the week I was at the OpenStack Summit and Conference in San Francisco. [15:56] - sabdfl gave a fantastic keynote, and the entire team worked well in delivering it reliably and on time. [15:56] - Lots of other good discussions last week about our focus and strategy, and building good partner relationships. [15:56] * Catching Up: [15:56] - Back to work yesterday after a week at the conference and catching up with email and calls. [15:56] * Ubuntu Accomplishments: [15:56] - Working towards the 0.1 release. [15:57] - We now have working packages and are getting our PPA in shape. [15:57] - Our next step is fixing all remaining 0.1 bugs at https://launchpad.net/ubuntu-accomplishments/+milestone/0.1 [15:57] and that is it from me [15:57] any questions? [15:57] how's the unity integration going for accomplishments? [15:58] mhall119, it is done, we have Launcher integration and a hi-res icon [15:58] the Launcher shows the number of new verified accomplishments [15:58] I am not sure what other integration we will need [15:58] cool [15:58] probably quicklists [15:58] but that will be a 0.2 feature [15:58] * mhall119 will work on a quicklist example for hello-unity [15:58] that would be really handy [15:59] hello-unity is what made Unity integration happen in Ubuntu Accomplishments :-) [15:59] :) [15:59] any other questions, folks? [16:00] no questions here [16:00] not I [16:00] I'm good [16:00] alrighty [16:00] lets wrap it! [16:00] thanks, folks! [16:00] #endmeeting === meetingology changed the topic of #ubuntu-community-team to: "Work Items: http://status.ubuntu.com/ubuntu-precise/canonical-community.html || Community Trello: http://goo.gl/n4or5 (experiment) || Things to work on (in order): work items || dpm's channel: http://goo.gl/o2IR5" [16:00] Meeting ended Tue Apr 24 16:00:50 2012 UTC. [16:00] Minutes (wiki): http://ubottu.com/meetingology/logs/ubuntu-community-team/2012/ubuntu-community-team.2012-04-24-15.00.moin.txt [16:00] Minutes (html): http://ubottu.com/meetingology/logs/ubuntu-community-team/2012/ubuntu-community-team.2012-04-24-15.00.html [16:00] * balloons still wonders how dpm keeps his hair looking so awesome [16:00] ... and perfectly squeezed it into 1h :) [16:01] :-) [16:01] Garnier Fructise [16:01] lol [16:01] :-) [16:01] jono: Sorry I didnt even notice you guys were having a meeting :P [16:01] * dpm wonders how being in Ubuntu so long he doesn't have any gray hairs yet [16:01] bkerensa, np [16:01] dpm, heh [16:01] dpm: they turn either orange or purple, not grey [16:01] dpm, or still hair left [16:02] dpm: They just fall out [16:02] hahaha [16:02] lol [16:02] Aubergine or Orange :D [16:03] yea, likely fall out [16:04] cprofitt: pong [16:05] bodhi_zazen: #ubuntu-docs [16:05] Yes, forums are working on recruiting people to work on documentation, just tell us what is needed and we will try to accommodate [16:21] technoviking: you get the ticket update? We'll know the forums/SSO thing tomorrow [16:21] I hope it's "FIXED!" [16:21] technoviking: FYI they tested all the other stuff, it all works [16:21] no I didn't [16:23]