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utlemmingo/16:00
arosalesHello16:00
arosaleshopefully folks have gotten some rest from ODS16:01
jamespageo/16:01
zuloh right there is a meeting today16:02
zulwho is suppose to be running it16:02
SpamapSI should16:02
SpamapSI skipped so many16:02
SpamapSthough smoser is on the list16:02
arosalesUrsinha: chair'ed last week16:02
SpamapSsmoser: 30 seconds to object...16:02
arosalesand smoser before her16:02
SpamapSahh16:02
SpamapSnobody is updating the agenda16:03
arosalesutlemming: is up on the list, but I am sure he would let SpamapS host16:03
utlemmingSpamapS: I was supposed to chair, but if you want to, I won't object16:03
SpamapSindeed, the header says 2012-04-1016:03
SpamapS#startmeeting Ubuntu Server Team16:03
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SpamapSand so we begin :)16:03
arosalesSpamapS: sorry, I should be better about updating the wiki16:03
SpamapSarosales: its the chair's responsibility, not yours16:03
hallynand documented on the knowledgebase very well16:04
arosalesah, ok16:04
* arosales doesn't feel as bad :-)16:04
SpamapS#topic Action points from last meeting16:04
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hallynbut maybe we're not informing ppl of that16:04
SpamapSSpamapS invite aquette to next server team meeting to discuss servercloud-p-cloud-power-management16:04
SpamapShallyn: indeed16:04
SpamapStoo late for that, its officially "off the list"16:04
SpamapSjamespage to raise bugs for FTBFS for server related packages from latest rebuild test.16:04
jamespageSpamapS, no longer required16:05
SpamapSbrilliant16:05
jamespagethats really old16:05
smosero/16:05
SpamapS#topic Precise Development16:05
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SpamapSAren't we like, done?16:05
jamespagei'd hope so :-)16:05
SpamapSdone or not, we're moving on :)16:05
SpamapSanybody have something to bring up re the release that happens in 2 days?16:05
jamespagedo lots of testing16:05
arosales7 bugs on http://reports.qa.ubuntu.com/reports/ubuntu-server/release-bugs.html16:06
hallynbottoms up?16:06
arosalesrelease notes these ?16:06
SpamapSor SRU them16:06
SpamapSwe'll go over them for that purpose alone16:06
SpamapSbug 92899016:06
ubottuLaunchpad bug 928990 in cloud-init (Ubuntu Quantal) "fsck / dirty filesystem on instance is death" [High,Triaged] https://launchpad.net/bugs/92899016:06
arosalesany of these we should make users aware of as we release?16:06
smoserjamespage, marked that one as wont-fix i think.16:06
smoserand moved to that new Q16:06
SpamapSsays Triaged now16:07
smoserwell, its triaged for Q. wont-fix for precise16:07
SpamapSah the report is picking up the wrong status16:07
jamespagesmoser: I did start reviewing them this morning16:07
SpamapSwho maintains that report?16:07
utlemmingits marked for Quantal16:07
SpamapSbug 93091616:07
ubottuLaunchpad bug 930916 in amavisd-new (Ubuntu) "amavis start-stop script fails to stop amavisd" [High,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/93091616:07
jamespageanything that won't be fixed for precise and won't be SRU's should be pushed to Quantal IMHO16:07
SpamapSUgh thats me, I kept deferring. I'll see if I can get a near-0-day SRU for that16:07
SpamapSbug 97461316:08
ubottuLaunchpad bug 974613 in Glance "Glance database issues after upgrade : 1054, "Unknown column 'images.protected' in 'field list'"" [Undecided,Incomplete] https://launchpad.net/bugs/97461316:08
jamespageadam_g, is that one fixed with the change you made to the way glance upgrades?16:08
adam_gjamespage: yes16:08
adam_gjamespage: ill mark accordingly with a note16:09
SpamapSwoot16:09
SpamapSbug 97458416:09
ubottuLaunchpad bug 974584 in sysvinit (Ubuntu) "Semaphores cannot be created in lxc container" [High,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/97458416:09
hallynfixed in precise16:09
hallynopen for quantal16:09
SpamapSerrr16:10
SpamapSno16:10
SpamapSthere is nothing fixed in precise that will not also be fixed in quantal16:10
SpamapShallyn: can you look at the sysvinit status and see if thats valid?16:10
hallynfine.  fixed for lxc.  open for initscripts in quantal16:10
SpamapShallyn: ah, so it was worked around in precise16:11
SpamapSbug 88033916:11
ubottuLaunchpad bug 880339 in mysql-5.5 (Ubuntu Precise) "AppArmor profile needs update" [Medium,Incomplete] https://launchpad.net/bugs/88033916:11
hallynyes16:11
SpamapSstill no feedback from the user... but I'm pretty sure we can just close that, all testing I've done shows a working system on upgrade from 11.10 -> 12.04 w/ mysql installed16:11
SpamapSbug 90719716:12
ubottuLaunchpad bug 907197 in nova (Ubuntu) "ip address can't be injected into the instance when using lxc " [Medium,Incomplete] https://launchpad.net/bugs/90719716:12
jamespageditto - still waiting for feedback from original reporter16:12
SpamapSbug 90188116:12
ubottuLaunchpad bug 901881 in glance (Ubuntu) "nova and glance should depend on python-keystone" [Low,In progress] https://launchpad.net/bugs/90188116:12
zulquantal16:13
zulor sru16:13
SpamapSzul: does it need a release note?16:13
zuli dont think so16:13
SpamapSzul: how about, quantal *and* sru ?16:13
SpamapShttp://status.ubuntu.com/ubuntu-precise/ubuntu-server.html16:13
arosalesSo possible known issues to document in the release notes would just be  bug 928990?16:14
ubottuLaunchpad bug 928990 in cloud-init (Ubuntu Quantal) "fsck / dirty filesystem on instance is death" [High,Triaged] https://launchpad.net/bugs/92899016:14
SpamapSpretty steady push of getting things done everybody16:14
zulSpamapS: that would be good idea16:14
utlemmingaroslaes: I don't think it needs to be documented. The issue is really about needing a rescue console. The behavior here is no different than a phyiscal server.16:14
smoserarosales, we can document that, thats fine. but it is present sense 10.0416:14
SpamapSPlease take a moment today to go through the blueprints you own and make sure all the work items are POSTPONED or DONE ..16:15
SpamapShelpful btw, http://status.ubuntu.com/ubuntu-precise/u/launchpad-username.html16:15
arosalessmoser: utlemming: I'll confirm with you guys before suggesting any additions to the release notes, and what the wording should be if it does need to be documented16:15
smoserk16:16
arosalesroaksoax:  are items hwere going to be postponed: https://blueprints.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+spec/servercloud-p-orchestra16:16
SpamapSAnything else?16:16
SpamapSarosales: at this point, *everything* is POSTPONED16:17
arosalesSpamapS: ah, gotcha16:17
* roaksoax looks16:17
SpamapSthere is no more doing, only postponing :)16:17
* arosales just seconds folks to udpate their blueprints16:17
hallyndon't we have 2 mor days?16:17
SpamapShallyn: not really16:17
hallynsurprised16:18
SpamapSuniverse freezes today16:18
SpamapS1600 UTC16:18
SpamapSok moving on16:18
hallyn(n/a)16:18
ScottKfreezes/froze16:18
SpamapStrue16:19
SpamapS:)16:19
SpamapS#topic Ubuntu Server Team Events16:19
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arosalesSounds like ODS went well16:19
arosalesm_3 @ railsconf (http://railsconf2012.com/) 23 -25 April16:20
SpamapSUDS in 2 weeks!16:21
SpamapS#topic Weekly Updates & Questions for the QA Team (hggdh)16:21
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SpamapShggdh: how's 12.04 looking?16:21
hggdhnothing from me, fully immersed on 12.04 testing16:22
hggdhseems good so far :-)16:22
SpamapS#topic Weekly Updates & Questions for the Kernel Team (smb)16:22
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SpamapSsmb: anything to report?16:22
smbAlready that time... hm not really, lots of testing around but nothing specific16:22
smb..16:22
SpamapSsmb: thx16:23
SpamapS#topic Weekly Updates & Questions regarding Ubuntu ARM Server (rbasak)16:23
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rbasakNothing to report. Any questions for me?16:23
rbasakI'll take that as a no.16:25
SpamapSsorry16:25
SpamapS#topic Open Discussion16:25
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rbasakBug 974218 may break upgrades from lucid to precise for users with bonded interfaces, causing the server to fail to bring interfaces up on boot due to a race condition. This is difficult or impossible to reproduce, but based on the reports I think it might be worth release noting. Any thoughts on this?16:25
ubottuLaunchpad bug 974218 in ifenslave-2.6 (Ubuntu) "Ifenslave-2.6 problem in ubuntu 12;04 precise" [Undecided,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/97421816:25
arosalesseems like a good candidate for release notes --> known issues16:26
SpamapSanother thing, UDS blueprints16:28
rbasakThe trouble is that I'm not sure how much of an issue it is. But it does seem to be a valid problem, and the impact is severe for those affected.16:28
rbasak(easy workaround though)16:28
SpamapSMake sure if you have a blueprint that everybody can come ready to discuss. Do not shy away from starting a discussion *now* on ubuntu-devel or ubuntu-server.16:28
jamespagearosales, rbasak: I think its worth a mentio16:28
jamespagen16:29
SpamapSagreed16:29
rbasakOK I'll flesh out the bug and send something to arosales then?16:30
SpamapS#action rbasak add bug 974218 to precise release notes16:30
meetingologyACTION: rbasak add bug 974218 to precise release notes16:30
ubottuLaunchpad bug 974218 in ifenslave-2.6 (Ubuntu) "Ifenslave-2.6 problem in ubuntu 12;04 precise" [Undecided,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/97421816:30
arosalesrbasak: yes, please send to me and I'll work with the release team to document16:30
rbasakOK16:30
arosalesAny other release notes items?16:30
zulthat we are awesome16:31
arosaleszul: that has already been there since alpha 116:31
jamespagearosales, where can we see the current release notes?  its hard to remember what already went in16:31
zuloh good....no other words are needed then16:31
arosaleshere is the landing page for most things related to the release16:32
arosaleshttps://wiki.ubuntu.com/PrecisePangolin/16:32
arosalesrelease notes --> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/PrecisePangolin/ReleaseNotes16:32
arosalesI have a few changes I need to make16:33
arosalesbut if any one has any data to add please feel free16:33
arosalesUbuntu Server is specifically @ https://wiki.ubuntu.com/PrecisePangolin/ReleaseNotes/UbuntuServer16:33
arosales..16:33
jamespagedoes someone have something for the squid -> squid3 config transition stuff as its not automated...16:34
arosalesadam_g: I think you were doing some work their16:36
adam_gjamespage: what do you mean?16:37
adam_goh, release notes..16:37
SpamapSOk, if thats all then?16:38
SpamapS#topic Announce next meeting date and time16:38
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SpamapSNext meeting will be next Tuesday, May 1, at 1600 UTC, right here in #ubuntu-meeting16:38
SpamapS#endmeeting16:38
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meetingologyMeeting ended Tue Apr 24 16:38:59 2012 UTC.16:39
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arosalesthanks for chari'ing SpamapS16:39
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jsalisbury#startmeeting17:00
jsalisbury##17:00
jsalisbury## This is the Ubuntu Kernel Team weekly status meeting.17:00
jsalisbury##17:00
jsalisbury[LINK] https://wiki.ubuntu.com/KernelTeam/Meeting17:00
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jsalisbury[LINK] https://wiki.ubuntu.com/KernelTeam/ReleaseStatus/Precise17:00
jsalisbury# Meeting Etiquette17:00
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jsalisburyRoll Call for Ubuntu Kernel Weekly Status Meeting17:00
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jsalisbury[TOPIC] ARM Status (ppisati)17:00
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ppisatinothing new to report this week17:01
ppisati..17:01
jsalisbury[TOPIC] Release Metrics and Incoming Bugs (jsalisbury)17:01
jsalisburyRelease metrics and incoming bug data can be reviewed at the following link:17:01
jsalisbury[LINK] http://people.canonical.com/~kernel/reports/kt-meeting.txt17:01
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jsalisbury[TOPIC] Status: Precise Development Kernel (ogasawara)17:01
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ogasawaraThe Precise kernel is currently frozen and we are gearing up for release17:01
ogasawarathis Thurs Apr 24.  Release candidate images are already available.  We17:01
ogasawarahave prepared a day-0 kernel upload that contains a few bug fixes which17:01
ogasawarawe would like to have immediately available to users.  We will upload the17:01
ogasawaraday-0 kernel to precise-proposed today and it will be pocket copied to17:01
ogasawaraprecise-updates.  I then intend to hand the maintenance repsonibilities17:01
ogasawaraof the Precise kernel over to the Stable Maintenance Kernel Team on17:01
ogasawaraFriday.17:01
ogasawaraImportant upcoming dates:17:01
ogasawara * Thurs Apr 26 - Final Release (2 days! \o/)17:01
ogasawara..17:01
jsalisbury[TOPIC] Status: CVE's (apw)17:01
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apwCurrently we have 76 CVEs on our radar, with 5 new CVEs added this week.17:02
apwSee the CVE matrix for the current list:17:02
apw 17:02
apw[LINK] http://people.canonical.com/~kernel/cve/pkg/ALL-linux.html17:02
apw 17:02
apwOverall the backlog has increased slightly slightly this week:17:02
apw 17:02
apw[LINK] http://people.canonical.com/~kernel/status/cve-metrics.txt17:02
apw[LINK] http://people.canonical.com/~kernel/cve/pkg/CVE-linux.txt17:02
apw 17:02
apwThis week sees the vestages of maverick dropping from the tracker.17:02
apw 17:02
apw..17:02
jsalisbury[TOPIC] Status: Stable, Security, and Bugfix Kernel Updates - Oneiric/Natty/Maverick/Lucid/Hardy (bjf/herton)17:02
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bjf    17:02
bjfHere is the status for the main kernels, until today (Apr. 24):17:02
bjf 17:02
bjf * Hardy    - 2.6.24-31.101 - Nothing last cycle17:02
bjf * Lucid    - 2.6.32-41.88  - In updates17:02
bjf * Natty    - 2.6.38-14.58  - In updates17:02
bjf * Oneiric  - 3.0.0-19.32   - Regression testing17:02
bjf 17:02
bjfCurrent opened tracking bugs details:17:02
bjf * http://people.canonical.com/~kernel/reports/kernel-sru-workflow.html17:02
bjf 17:02
bjfFor SRUs, SRU report is a good source of information:17:02
bjf * http://people.canonical.com/~kernel/reports/sru-report.html17:02
bjf 17:02
bjfFuture stable cadence cycles:17:02
bjf * https://wiki.ubuntu.com/PrecisePangolin/ReleaseInterlock17:02
bjf    17:03
bjf        17:03
bjfDue to this being releas week and people get testy when we upload17:03
bjfa barrage of SRU kernels, we are starting the next cadence cycle17:03
bjfnext week. This also works out conveniently making UDS week a17:03
bjfbug verification week.17:03
bjf    17:03
bjf..17:03
jsalisbury[TOPIC] Open Discussion or Questions? Raise your hand to be recognized (o/)17:03
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jsalisburyThanks everyone17:03
jsalisbury#endmeeting17:03
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