=== Jacky is now known as jalcine === smb` is now known as smb === huats_ is now known as huats === smb` is now known as smb === yofel_ is now known as yofel === jalcine- is now known as Jacky === bulldog98_ is now known as bulldog98 [16:00] o/ [16:00] Hello [16:01] hopefully folks have gotten some rest from ODS [16:01] o/ [16:02] oh right there is a meeting today [16:02] who is suppose to be running it [16:02] I should [16:02] I skipped so many [16:02] though smoser is on the list [16:02] Ursinha: chair'ed last week [16:02] smoser: 30 seconds to object... [16:02] and smoser before her [16:02] ahh [16:03] nobody is updating the agenda [16:03] utlemming: is up on the list, but I am sure he would let SpamapS host [16:03] SpamapS: I was supposed to chair, but if you want to, I won't object [16:03] indeed, the header says 2012-04-10 [16:03] #startmeeting Ubuntu Server Team [16:03] Meeting started Tue Apr 24 16:03:31 2012 UTC. The chair is SpamapS. 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[16:03] Available commands: #accept #accepted #action #agree #agreed #chair #commands #endmeeting #endvote #halp #help #idea #info #link #lurk #meetingname #meetingtopic #nick #progress #rejected #replay #restrictlogs #save #startmeeting #subtopic #topic #unchair #undo #unlurk #vote #voters #votesrequired === meetingology changed the topic of #ubuntu-meeting to: Ubuntu Meeting Grounds | Calendar/Scheduled meetings: http://fridge.ubuntu.com/calendar | Logs: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MeetingLogs | Meetingology documentation: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/meetingology | Ubuntu Server Team Meeting | Current topic: [16:03] and so we begin :) [16:03] SpamapS: sorry, I should be better about updating the wiki [16:03] arosales: its the chair's responsibility, not yours [16:04] and documented on the knowledgebase very well [16:04] ah, ok [16:04] * arosales doesn't feel as bad :-) [16:04] #topic Action points from last meeting === meetingology changed the topic of #ubuntu-meeting to: Ubuntu Meeting Grounds | Calendar/Scheduled meetings: http://fridge.ubuntu.com/calendar | Logs: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MeetingLogs | Meetingology documentation: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/meetingology | Ubuntu Server Team Meeting | Current topic: Action points from last meeting [16:04] but maybe we're not informing ppl of that [16:04] SpamapS invite aquette to next server team meeting to discuss servercloud-p-cloud-power-management [16:04] hallyn: indeed [16:04] too late for that, its officially "off the list" [16:04] jamespage to raise bugs for FTBFS for server related packages from latest rebuild test. [16:05] SpamapS, no longer required [16:05] brilliant [16:05] thats really old [16:05] o/ [16:05] #topic Precise Development === meetingology changed the topic of #ubuntu-meeting to: Ubuntu Meeting Grounds | Calendar/Scheduled meetings: http://fridge.ubuntu.com/calendar | Logs: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MeetingLogs | Meetingology documentation: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/meetingology | Ubuntu Server Team Meeting | Current topic: Precise Development [16:05] Aren't we like, done? [16:05] i'd hope so :-) [16:05] done or not, we're moving on :) [16:05] anybody have something to bring up re the release that happens in 2 days? [16:05] do lots of testing [16:06] 7 bugs on http://reports.qa.ubuntu.com/reports/ubuntu-server/release-bugs.html [16:06] bottoms up? [16:06] release notes these ? [16:06] or SRU them [16:06] we'll go over them for that purpose alone [16:06] bug 928990 [16:06] Launchpad bug 928990 in cloud-init (Ubuntu Quantal) "fsck / dirty filesystem on instance is death" [High,Triaged] https://launchpad.net/bugs/928990 [16:06] any of these we should make users aware of as we release? [16:06] jamespage, marked that one as wont-fix i think. [16:06] and moved to that new Q [16:07] says Triaged now [16:07] well, its triaged for Q. wont-fix for precise [16:07] ah the report is picking up the wrong status [16:07] smoser: I did start reviewing them this morning [16:07] who maintains that report? [16:07] its marked for Quantal [16:07] bug 930916 [16:07] Launchpad bug 930916 in amavisd-new (Ubuntu) "amavis start-stop script fails to stop amavisd" [High,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/930916 [16:07] anything that won't be fixed for precise and won't be SRU's should be pushed to Quantal IMHO [16:07] Ugh thats me, I kept deferring. I'll see if I can get a near-0-day SRU for that [16:08] bug 974613 [16:08] Launchpad bug 974613 in Glance "Glance database issues after upgrade : 1054, "Unknown column 'images.protected' in 'field list'"" [Undecided,Incomplete] https://launchpad.net/bugs/974613 [16:08] adam_g, is that one fixed with the change you made to the way glance upgrades? [16:08] jamespage: yes [16:09] jamespage: ill mark accordingly with a note [16:09] woot [16:09] bug 974584 [16:09] Launchpad bug 974584 in sysvinit (Ubuntu) "Semaphores cannot be created in lxc container" [High,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/974584 [16:09] fixed in precise [16:09] open for quantal [16:10] errr [16:10] no [16:10] there is nothing fixed in precise that will not also be fixed in quantal [16:10] hallyn: can you look at the sysvinit status and see if thats valid? [16:10] fine. fixed for lxc. open for initscripts in quantal [16:11] hallyn: ah, so it was worked around in precise [16:11] bug 880339 [16:11] Launchpad bug 880339 in mysql-5.5 (Ubuntu Precise) "AppArmor profile needs update" [Medium,Incomplete] https://launchpad.net/bugs/880339 [16:11] yes [16:11] still no feedback from the user... but I'm pretty sure we can just close that, all testing I've done shows a working system on upgrade from 11.10 -> 12.04 w/ mysql installed [16:12] bug 907197 [16:12] Launchpad bug 907197 in nova (Ubuntu) "ip address can't be injected into the instance when using lxc " [Medium,Incomplete] https://launchpad.net/bugs/907197 [16:12] ditto - still waiting for feedback from original reporter [16:12] bug 901881 [16:12] Launchpad bug 901881 in glance (Ubuntu) "nova and glance should depend on python-keystone" [Low,In progress] https://launchpad.net/bugs/901881 [16:13] quantal [16:13] or sru [16:13] zul: does it need a release note? [16:13] i dont think so [16:13] zul: how about, quantal *and* sru ? [16:13] http://status.ubuntu.com/ubuntu-precise/ubuntu-server.html [16:14] So possible known issues to document in the release notes would just be bug 928990? [16:14] Launchpad bug 928990 in cloud-init (Ubuntu Quantal) "fsck / dirty filesystem on instance is death" [High,Triaged] https://launchpad.net/bugs/928990 [16:14] pretty steady push of getting things done everybody [16:14] SpamapS: that would be good idea [16:14] aroslaes: I don't think it needs to be documented. The issue is really about needing a rescue console. The behavior here is no different than a phyiscal server. [16:14] arosales, we can document that, thats fine. but it is present sense 10.04 [16:15] Please take a moment today to go through the blueprints you own and make sure all the work items are POSTPONED or DONE .. [16:15] helpful btw, http://status.ubuntu.com/ubuntu-precise/u/launchpad-username.html [16:15] smoser: utlemming: I'll confirm with you guys before suggesting any additions to the release notes, and what the wording should be if it does need to be documented [16:16] k [16:16] roaksoax: are items hwere going to be postponed: https://blueprints.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+spec/servercloud-p-orchestra [16:16] Anything else? [16:17] arosales: at this point, *everything* is POSTPONED [16:17] SpamapS: ah, gotcha [16:17] * roaksoax looks [16:17] there is no more doing, only postponing :) [16:17] * arosales just seconds folks to udpate their blueprints [16:17] don't we have 2 mor days? [16:17] hallyn: not really [16:18] surprised [16:18] universe freezes today [16:18] 1600 UTC [16:18] ok moving on [16:18] (n/a) [16:18] freezes/froze [16:19] true [16:19] :) [16:19] #topic Ubuntu Server Team Events === meetingology changed the topic of #ubuntu-meeting to: Ubuntu Meeting Grounds | Calendar/Scheduled meetings: http://fridge.ubuntu.com/calendar | Logs: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MeetingLogs | Meetingology documentation: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/meetingology | Ubuntu Server Team Meeting | Current topic: Ubuntu Server Team Events [16:19] Sounds like ODS went well [16:20] m_3 @ railsconf (http://railsconf2012.com/) 23 -25 April [16:21] UDS in 2 weeks! [16:21] #topic Weekly Updates & Questions for the QA Team (hggdh) === meetingology changed the topic of #ubuntu-meeting to: Ubuntu Meeting Grounds | Calendar/Scheduled meetings: http://fridge.ubuntu.com/calendar | Logs: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MeetingLogs | Meetingology documentation: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/meetingology | Ubuntu Server Team Meeting | Current topic: Weekly Updates & Questions for the QA Team (hggdh) [16:21] hggdh: how's 12.04 looking? [16:22] nothing from me, fully immersed on 12.04 testing [16:22] seems good so far :-) [16:22] #topic Weekly Updates & Questions for the Kernel Team (smb) === meetingology changed the topic of #ubuntu-meeting to: Ubuntu Meeting Grounds | Calendar/Scheduled meetings: http://fridge.ubuntu.com/calendar | Logs: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MeetingLogs | Meetingology documentation: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/meetingology | Ubuntu Server Team Meeting | Current topic: Weekly Updates & Questions for the Kernel Team (smb) [16:22] smb: anything to report? [16:22] Already that time... hm not really, lots of testing around but nothing specific [16:22] .. [16:23] smb: thx [16:23] #topic Weekly Updates & Questions regarding Ubuntu ARM Server (rbasak) === meetingology changed the topic of #ubuntu-meeting to: Ubuntu Meeting Grounds | Calendar/Scheduled meetings: http://fridge.ubuntu.com/calendar | Logs: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MeetingLogs | Meetingology documentation: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/meetingology | Ubuntu Server Team Meeting | Current topic: Weekly Updates & Questions regarding Ubuntu ARM Server (rbasak) [16:23] Nothing to report. Any questions for me? [16:25] I'll take that as a no. [16:25] sorry [16:25] #topic Open Discussion === meetingology changed the topic of #ubuntu-meeting to: Ubuntu Meeting Grounds | Calendar/Scheduled meetings: http://fridge.ubuntu.com/calendar | Logs: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MeetingLogs | Meetingology documentation: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/meetingology | Ubuntu Server Team Meeting | Current topic: Open Discussion [16:25] Bug 974218 may break upgrades from lucid to precise for users with bonded interfaces, causing the server to fail to bring interfaces up on boot due to a race condition. This is difficult or impossible to reproduce, but based on the reports I think it might be worth release noting. Any thoughts on this? [16:25] Launchpad bug 974218 in ifenslave-2.6 (Ubuntu) "Ifenslave-2.6 problem in ubuntu 12;04 precise" [Undecided,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/974218 [16:26] seems like a good candidate for release notes --> known issues [16:28] another thing, UDS blueprints [16:28] The trouble is that I'm not sure how much of an issue it is. But it does seem to be a valid problem, and the impact is severe for those affected. [16:28] (easy workaround though) [16:28] Make sure if you have a blueprint that everybody can come ready to discuss. Do not shy away from starting a discussion *now* on ubuntu-devel or ubuntu-server. [16:28] arosales, rbasak: I think its worth a mentio [16:29] n [16:29] agreed [16:30] OK I'll flesh out the bug and send something to arosales then? [16:30] #action rbasak add bug 974218 to precise release notes [16:30] ACTION: rbasak add bug 974218 to precise release notes [16:30] Launchpad bug 974218 in ifenslave-2.6 (Ubuntu) "Ifenslave-2.6 problem in ubuntu 12;04 precise" [Undecided,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/974218 [16:30] rbasak: yes, please send to me and I'll work with the release team to document [16:30] OK [16:30] Any other release notes items? [16:31] that we are awesome [16:31] zul: that has already been there since alpha 1 [16:31] arosales, where can we see the current release notes? its hard to remember what already went in [16:31] oh good....no other words are needed then [16:32] here is the landing page for most things related to the release [16:32] https://wiki.ubuntu.com/PrecisePangolin/ [16:32] release notes --> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/PrecisePangolin/ReleaseNotes [16:33] I have a few changes I need to make [16:33] but if any one has any data to add please feel free [16:33] Ubuntu Server is specifically @ https://wiki.ubuntu.com/PrecisePangolin/ReleaseNotes/UbuntuServer [16:33] .. [16:34] does someone have something for the squid -> squid3 config transition stuff as its not automated... [16:36] adam_g: I think you were doing some work their [16:37] jamespage: what do you mean? [16:37] oh, release notes.. [16:38] Ok, if thats all then? [16:38] #topic Announce next meeting date and time === meetingology changed the topic of #ubuntu-meeting to: Ubuntu Meeting Grounds | Calendar/Scheduled meetings: http://fridge.ubuntu.com/calendar | Logs: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MeetingLogs | Meetingology documentation: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/meetingology | Ubuntu Server Team Meeting | Current topic: Announce next meeting date and time [16:38] Next meeting will be next Tuesday, May 1, at 1600 UTC, right here in #ubuntu-meeting [16:38] #endmeeting === meetingology changed the topic of #ubuntu-meeting to: Ubuntu Meeting Grounds | Calendar/Scheduled meetings: http://fridge.ubuntu.com/calendar | Logs: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MeetingLogs | Meetingology documentation: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/meetingology [16:39] Meeting ended Tue Apr 24 16:38:59 2012 UTC. [16:39] Minutes (wiki): http://ubottu.com/meetingology/logs/ubuntu-meeting/2012/ubuntu-meeting.2012-04-24-16.03.moin.txt [16:39] Minutes (html): http://ubottu.com/meetingology/logs/ubuntu-meeting/2012/ubuntu-meeting.2012-04-24-16.03.html [16:39] thanks for chari'ing SpamapS === evilserfus is now known as serfus [16:39] chair'ing, that is [17:00] #startmeeting [17:00] ## [17:00] ## This is the Ubuntu Kernel Team weekly status meeting. [17:00] ## [17:00] [LINK] https://wiki.ubuntu.com/KernelTeam/Meeting [17:00] Meeting started Tue Apr 24 17:00:03 2012 UTC. The chair is jsalisbury. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.ubuntu.com/meetingology. 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[17:01] [TOPIC] Release Metrics and Incoming Bugs (jsalisbury) [17:01] Release metrics and incoming bug data can be reviewed at the following link: [17:01] [LINK] http://people.canonical.com/~kernel/reports/kt-meeting.txt === meetingology changed the topic of #ubuntu-meeting to: Release Metrics and Incoming Bugs (jsalisbury) [17:01] .. [17:01] [TOPIC] Status: Precise Development Kernel (ogasawara) === meetingology changed the topic of #ubuntu-meeting to: Status: Precise Development Kernel (ogasawara) [17:01] The Precise kernel is currently frozen and we are gearing up for release [17:01] this Thurs Apr 24. Release candidate images are already available. We [17:01] have prepared a day-0 kernel upload that contains a few bug fixes which [17:01] we would like to have immediately available to users. We will upload the [17:01] day-0 kernel to precise-proposed today and it will be pocket copied to [17:01] precise-updates. I then intend to hand the maintenance repsonibilities [17:01] of the Precise kernel over to the Stable Maintenance Kernel Team on [17:01] Friday. [17:01] Important upcoming dates: [17:01] * Thurs Apr 26 - Final Release (2 days! \o/) [17:01] .. [17:01] [TOPIC] Status: CVE's (apw) === meetingology changed the topic of #ubuntu-meeting to: Status: CVE's (apw) [17:02] Currently we have 76 CVEs on our radar, with 5 new CVEs added this week. [17:02] See the CVE matrix for the current list: [17:02] [17:02] [LINK] http://people.canonical.com/~kernel/cve/pkg/ALL-linux.html [17:02] [17:02] Overall the backlog has increased slightly slightly this week: [17:02] [17:02] [LINK] http://people.canonical.com/~kernel/status/cve-metrics.txt [17:02] [LINK] http://people.canonical.com/~kernel/cve/pkg/CVE-linux.txt [17:02] [17:02] This week sees the vestages of maverick dropping from the tracker. [17:02] [17:02] .. [17:02] [TOPIC] Status: Stable, Security, and Bugfix Kernel Updates - Oneiric/Natty/Maverick/Lucid/Hardy (bjf/herton) === meetingology changed the topic of #ubuntu-meeting to: Status: Stable, Security, and Bugfix Kernel Updates - Oneiric/Natty/Maverick/Lucid/Hardy (bjf/herton) [17:02] [17:02] Here is the status for the main kernels, until today (Apr. 24): [17:02] [17:02] * Hardy - 2.6.24-31.101 - Nothing last cycle [17:02] * Lucid - 2.6.32-41.88 - In updates [17:02] * Natty - 2.6.38-14.58 - In updates [17:02] * Oneiric - 3.0.0-19.32 - Regression testing [17:02] [17:02] Current opened tracking bugs details: [17:02] * http://people.canonical.com/~kernel/reports/kernel-sru-workflow.html [17:02] [17:02] For SRUs, SRU report is a good source of information: [17:02] * http://people.canonical.com/~kernel/reports/sru-report.html [17:02] [17:02] Future stable cadence cycles: [17:02] * https://wiki.ubuntu.com/PrecisePangolin/ReleaseInterlock [17:03] [17:03] [17:03] Due to this being releas week and people get testy when we upload [17:03] a barrage of SRU kernels, we are starting the next cadence cycle [17:03] next week. This also works out conveniently making UDS week a [17:03] bug verification week. [17:03] [17:03] .. [17:03] [TOPIC] Open Discussion or Questions? Raise your hand to be recognized (o/) === meetingology changed the topic of #ubuntu-meeting to: Open Discussion or Questions? Raise your hand to be recognized (o/) [17:03] Thanks everyone [17:03] #endmeeting === meetingology changed the topic of #ubuntu-meeting to: Ubuntu Meeting Grounds | Calendar/Scheduled meetings: http://fridge.ubuntu.com/calendar | Logs: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MeetingLogs | Meetingology documentation: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/meetingology [17:03] Meeting ended Tue Apr 24 17:03:56 2012 UTC. 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