| directhex | moo | 00:55 |
|---|---|---|
| Azelphur | baa | 00:55 |
| Jora | im here you can critisize me now lol | 04:58 |
| ging | who is that aimed at? | 05:12 |
| Azelphur | I think it was open season | 05:12 |
| Azelphur | Jora: YOUR FACE IS WEIRD. | 05:12 |
| Jora | Your mommas so fat she make da pillsbury doughboy look anorexic | 05:13 |
| Azelphur | oshi- | 05:13 |
| Jora | you can't handle it, you just can't | 05:16 |
| Jora | I just insulted your momma and you don't have anything to say for it. Tsk tsk. | 05:16 |
| Azelphur | indeed :< | 05:16 |
| Azelphur | I'm out-insulted | 05:16 |
| ging | you upset Dave2 | 05:31 |
| Azelphur | odeer | 05:31 |
| Jora | I really offended Dave2 | 05:32 |
| MartijnVdS | !coc | 05:33 |
| lubotu3 | The Ubuntu Code of Conduct is a community etiquette document to which we ask all Ubuntu users to adhere, and can be found at http://www.ubuntu.com/community/conduct/ | For information on how to electronically sign the CoC, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SigningCodeofConduct | 05:33 |
| Jora | Oh dear, I was just joking around and none of my comments were to be taken seriously. | 05:34 |
| PerfM | Sup bitches | 05:37 |
| PerfM | ubuntu sucks rite | 05:37 |
| === Jora is now known as JavaIsLife | ||
| === JavaIsLife is now known as Jora | ||
| DJones | Morning all | 07:24 |
| mattt | what's with the trolls? | 07:25 |
| DJones | Was wondering that myself | 07:25 |
| daubers | Morning | 07:28 |
| === alan_g is now known as alan_g|afk | ||
| === alan_g|afk is now known as alan_g | ||
| bigcalm | Good morning peeps :) | 07:44 |
| DJones | Morning bigcalm | 07:45 |
| zleap | hi franred | 07:49 |
| franred | hi zleap | 07:49 |
| bigcalm | Hi DJones | 07:51 |
| MooDoo | gekki all | 08:02 |
| MooDoo | that would be hello | 08:02 |
| MooDoo | if my fingers were in the right place on the keyboard | 08:02 |
| mattt | BOOYA | 08:20 |
| mattt | err | 08:20 |
| mattt | booya | 08:20 |
| AlanBell | morning all | 08:30 |
| bigcalm | Hi AlanBell | 08:30 |
| bigcalm | I have the choice of using XML RPC or SOAP to interface with PayPoint.net for credit card transactions. Which is the better tech or possibly easier to use with PHP? | 08:32 |
| mungojerry | does any pdf reader on ubuntu allow highlighting of sections of the pdf doc? | 08:32 |
| MartijnVdS | bigcalm: If you get WSDLs and XSDs, SOAP should be a breeze (though I don't know if PHP has libraries to cope with those correctly) | 08:33 |
| MartijnVdS | bigcalm: XML-RPC is easier on the XML libraries, and I know there's a good client for PHP | 08:33 |
| directhex | bigcalm, i like SOAP personally, due to WSDL. but i don't know if php is usable with WSDL | 08:34 |
| directhex | erm, what MartijnVdS said | 08:34 |
| bigcalm | MartijnVdS: good thing about PHP is that it has a lot of community driven libraries for most protocols | 08:35 |
| bigcalm | Thanks guys :) | 08:35 |
| AlanBell | mungojerry: I don't think so, annotation support is rather limited (never once wanted to use it myself) | 08:36 |
| mungojerry | :( | 08:38 |
| mungojerry | very useful on kindle books i read | 08:38 |
| mungojerry | might have to try pdf->mobi | 08:38 |
| mungojerry | which button do i press? http://ubuntuone.com/1NTXfMot6EIodnZGGEID7o | 08:43 |
| AlanBell | details | 08:43 |
| mungojerry | was not very enlightening | 08:43 |
| mungojerry | i want to continue, saying go ahead.. | 08:43 |
| AlanBell | presumeably you are installing something from a PPA and are not surprised to see this message | 08:44 |
| MartijnVdS | bigcalm: In Perl, I'd go for XML::Compile::SOAP (which has a WSDL module) :) | 08:44 |
| mungojerry | AlanBell, not intentionally | 08:44 |
| mungojerry | i ham installing calibre - is that in normal repos? | 08:44 |
| === rastamouse is now known as nothingspecial | ||
| DJones | mungojerry: Yes | 08:45 |
| AlanBell | it says it is fixing something, perhaps you have something else from a ppa | 08:45 |
| mungojerry | AlanBell, true, maybe something else is newer in a ppa, but still no button to say, OK, continue as agreed | 08:46 |
| mungojerry | disabling gimp repo and OSD-history repo... | 08:48 |
| mungojerry | otherwise software centre crashes when i continue (known bug.) | 08:48 |
| JamesTait | Good morning, all! *8O) | 08:49 |
| mungojerry | AlanBell, i discovered okular does highlighting, | 09:27 |
| mungojerry | (and also much quicker than evince at reading docs) | 09:27 |
| mungojerry | haven't discovered a way of saving the highlights yet ;( | 09:30 |
| mungojerry | ah, it saves them , but not if i do "save as.." a diffrent document | 09:32 |
| === brobosti1on is now known as brobostigon | ||
| brobostigon | good morning everyone. | 10:00 |
| bigcalm | Hi brobostigon | 10:01 |
| bigcalm | Morning davmor2 | 10:01 |
| brobostigon | hi bigcalm | 10:01 |
| davmor2 | morning bigcalm and all | 10:02 |
| sircrashalot | Installed 12.04 beta 2 on the netbook. It's looking quite nice | 10:03 |
| sircrashalot | I like the desktop background applied to the login screen | 10:04 |
| czajkowski | AlanBell: feeling better? | 10:06 |
| AlanBell | nope | 10:06 |
| * AlanBell needs sympathy | 10:06 | |
| czajkowski | :( | 10:06 |
| czajkowski | AlanBell: how are the chickens? | 10:07 |
| AlanBell | better than me ;) | 10:08 |
| TheOpenSourcerer | Wazzup AlanBell? | 10:08 |
| AlanBell | just sitting here chain-drinking lemsips | 10:08 |
| TheOpenSourcerer | Ah - I had a cold last week. | 10:09 |
| AlanBell | (no, not exceeding the appropriate dose) | 10:09 |
| AlanBell | need to be fixed by tomorrow evening, I am podcasting | 10:11 |
| * brobostigon sends AlanBell some pain killers. | 10:12 | |
| * BigRedS sends AlanBell some Guinness | 10:12 | |
| marxjohnson | AlanBell: dont worry, you'll be in good company. I also have the dreaded lurgy. | 10:13 |
| mattt | anyone here familiar w/ packaging debian packages? | 10:18 |
| sircrashalot | To some extent | 10:19 |
| BigRedS | I've seen several of them | 10:19 |
| mattt | i'm trying to modify the setup.py to include file.conf instead of file.conf.example | 10:19 |
| mattt | but whenever the package is built, it refuses to include that file | 10:20 |
| mattt | it's like python's setuptools only wants file.conf.example | 10:20 |
| mattt | bit vague, but any suggestions? :P | 10:20 |
| mattt | i guess i could handle the mv of file.conf.example in the postinst file, but that doesn't feel right | 10:22 |
| directhex | i'm familiar with debian packaging, but not for toy languages | 10:25 |
| mattt | oh burn | 10:26 |
| BigRedS | haha | 10:27 |
| AlanBell | mattt: maybe try #ubuntu-motu | 10:31 |
| mattt | AlanBell: it's actually a python setuptools thing me thinks | 10:31 |
| mattt | but thanks | 10:31 |
| * AlanBell likes playing with toy languages | 10:31 | |
| mattt | me too :P | 10:33 |
| mattt | https://github.com/BrightcoveOS/Diamond is very cool | 10:33 |
| mattt | MANIFEST.in => exclude conf/*.conf | 10:35 |
| mattt | well herp derp | 10:36 |
| mattt | silly toy language and their silly toy setup tools | 10:36 |
| sircrashalot | Handbags at dawn | 10:37 |
| mungojerry | micro SDHC cards seem rather susceptible to dying :-\ | 10:41 |
| bigcalm | Buy good quality ones, I've had no problems with SanDisk | 10:42 |
| mungojerry | i have a sandisk one | 10:42 |
| mungojerry | hmm or maybe samsung | 10:43 |
| mungojerry | OS does not even recognise | 10:43 |
| mungojerry | another 32gb one is playing up too | 10:43 |
| MartijnVdS | mungojerry: SDHC cards in pre-SDHC readers can be flaky | 10:43 |
| MartijnVdS | I bought a new card reader and all my cards work now.. before it was very hit & miss | 10:44 |
| directhex | bear in mind a LOT of counterfeit SD cards are on the market | 11:03 |
| directhex | fake sandisks are common | 11:03 |
| sircrashalot | Indeed, I bought one a couple of years ago | 11:03 |
| sircrashalot | Looked like a bargain...but | 11:04 |
| BigRedS | I recall there being a Dropbox-alike thingy that I can download and run the server part of, anyone agree and know what it is? | 11:17 |
| sircrashalot | sparkleshare? | 11:18 |
| BigRedS | sircrashalot: yes! Thanks! | 11:19 |
| mungojerry | MartijnVdS, i plugged it into a phone aswell :-\ | 11:21 |
| * popey notes #ubuntu-release-party is open for business | 12:28 | |
| directhex | why? | 12:29 |
| popey | why did I note it? | 12:30 |
| popey | or why is it open? | 12:30 |
| directhex | the latter! | 12:32 |
| Myrtti | why wouldn't it be? | 12:34 |
| * bigcalm flumps | 12:47 | |
| davmor2 | bigcalm: arrrrr god I can smell that over here, smells like burning garbage, oh no the incinerators on :D | 12:51 |
| * bigcalm tuts | 12:51 | |
| cocoa117 | what is non-DFSG-free? | 13:05 |
| popey | Debian Free Software Guidelines | 13:06 |
| popey | if something is non-DFSG-free then it doesn't conform to those guidelines | 13:06 |
| popey | http://people.debian.org/~bap/dfsg-faq.html | 13:06 |
| cocoa117 | popey, got it | 13:06 |
| * daubers writes yet more job specs | 13:52 | |
| MartijnVdS | hiring spree? | 14:06 |
| daubers | indeed | 14:07 |
| diplo- | o/ | 14:13 |
| diplo- | If only it wasn't in Reading :( | 14:13 |
| mattt | daubers: what is it? | 14:14 |
| daubers | mattt: Potentially 2 roles, one "support" type engineer, one python engineer | 14:15 |
| mattt | funky, which company? :P | 14:16 |
| daubers | mattt: http://www.gblabs.co.uk | 14:16 |
| daubers | though no job specs yet | 14:16 |
| daubers | still typing them :( | 14:17 |
| mattt | aldemaston, that's not too far from me | 14:17 |
| === dwatkins_ is now known as dwatkins | ||
| popey | https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/compiz/+bug/987871 | 14:51 |
| lubotu3 | Ubuntu bug 987871 in compiz (Ubuntu) "Flicker when switching desktops" [Undecided,New] | 14:51 |
| popey | can anyone reproduce that? | 14:51 |
| * bigcalm grabs his laptop | 14:52 | |
| diplo- | Slight stutter first time I did it | 14:53 |
| diplo- | Hardly noticeable after | 14:54 |
| === diplo- is now known as diplo | ||
| dogmatic69 | popey: happens 90% of the time for me | 14:55 |
| davmor2 | popey: the only kinda flicker I get is the title in the bar changing | 14:55 |
| bigcalm | It appears to draw the screen, blank it and then animate the screen coming into view | 14:55 |
| popey | dogmatic69: yay! | 14:56 |
| popey | dogmatic69: can you confirm it? | 14:56 |
| * dogmatic69 hit confirmed already | 14:56 | |
| popey | just hit the "affects me too" thing | 14:56 |
| popey | ah, cool, ta | 14:57 |
| bigcalm | Just one update since the weekend? I sense the quiet before the storm | 14:58 |
| davmor2 | big you sense the quite before the sru fixes hit is that what you are trying to say ;) | 15:01 |
| davmor2 | bigcalm: even ^ must not of hit tab hard enough :D | 15:01 |
| Myrtti | bigcalm: I got a reply from O'Reilly \o/ | 15:06 |
| popey | bug 987897 | 15:12 |
| lubotu3 | Error: Launchpad bug 987897 could not be found | 15:12 |
| popey | bug 987879 | 15:12 |
| lubotu3 | Launchpad bug 987879 in compiz (Ubuntu) "Panel drop shadow shows as a black line in workspace switcher" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/987879 | 15:12 |
| popey | thats an easy one to replicate :D | 15:13 |
| davmor2 | popey: ha nice it does in the c-a-→ but not if you click on the workspace icon | 15:14 |
| AlanBell | Myrtti: are they sending you books? | 15:18 |
| Myrtti | yeah \o/ | 15:18 |
| davmor2 | AlanBell: I see you're stirring up trouble ref authentication of lenses :D | 15:20 |
| AlanBell | davmor2: engaging in a productive discussion | 15:21 |
| AlanBell | no trouble in that discussion yet (though I fully expect Ryan Guager to continue to probe the boundaries in that thread too) | 15:21 |
| gord | the google doodle today is fun :) | 15:22 |
| davmor2 | AlanBell: Yeah, yeah if that's the term you use down South ;) What you might think about is simply asking the user to add an entry in seahorse for the app, ie add a password description: openCRM password: user=<opencrmlogin>,password=<opencrmpassword> and at least see if you can hook into it from a lens | 15:24 |
| AlanBell | well I know that seahorse==passwords and keys, but not everyone does | 15:26 |
| AlanBell | I just opened the thing and I have no clue how to add a password | 15:26 |
| AlanBell | ah right, file-new. And how do I tell it what server to use? | 15:27 |
| davmor2 | AlanBell: no server you use stored password | 15:28 |
| AlanBell | sure, but where do I specify the server? | 15:28 |
| davmor2 | AlanBell: drop it in the login keyring | 15:28 |
| davmor2 | AlanBell: you do description as the name of the app | 15:29 |
| AlanBell | the server is going to be myserver.mycompany.co.uk or 192.168.3.2 or something like that | 15:29 |
| AlanBell | I know what software it will be running, but not where it is installed | 15:29 |
| ali1234 | wat | 15:30 |
| davmor2 | AlanBell: and then for the password do opencrm_login=abc,opencrm_password=xyz,server=serverip/address | 15:30 |
| AlanBell | ok | 15:30 |
| AlanBell | in the description rather, you just shove it all in there in a random format | 15:32 |
| AlanBell | or do you actually mean to shove that stuff in the password field?? | 15:34 |
| AlanBell | can any application read any passwords from the gnome-keyring? | 15:35 |
| davmor2 | in password description just needs to be a keyword for the keydb | 15:35 |
| popey | AlanBell: http://live.gnome.org/GnomeKeyring/SecurityPhilosophy | 15:36 |
| davmor2 | AlanBell: python can not sure how though | 15:36 |
| AlanBell | that is a bit of a worry | 15:38 |
| AlanBell | so allowing a lens or something to store it's password in gnome-keyring means it can retreive all your passwords | 15:38 |
| BigRedS | huh? | 15:39 |
| BigRedS | surely gnome-keyring knows which passwords are stored by what? | 15:40 |
| AlanBell | nope | 15:40 |
| BigRedS | haha, wonderful | 15:40 |
| AiRLocK | Hello everybody, I need help with something really weird that is happening with a PC of mine. | 16:12 |
| AiRLocK | The machine is an ASUS M2N-MX with AMD AM2+ 64 bit dual core CPU running ubuntu 11.10 64 bit | 16:13 |
| bigcalm | Myrtti: yay. I take it that they returned with good news? | 16:17 |
| Myrtti | yeah :-) | 16:17 |
| bigcalm | Wonderful :) | 16:18 |
| === Lcawte|Away is now known as Lcawte | ||
| popey | TheOpenSourcerer: thanks for the reminder! | 16:47 |
| TheOpenSourcerer | hey popey | 16:47 |
| TheOpenSourcerer | NP | 16:47 |
| TheOpenSourcerer | It is you + 1 right? | 16:47 |
| popey | need to check the +1 | 16:50 |
| popey | will do that now | 16:50 |
| TheOpenSourcerer | Gosh - Google Drive is out but no Linux client :-( https://drive.google.com/start#features | 16:59 |
| Azelphur | I like dropbox :p | 17:00 |
| TheOpenSourcerer | Me too Azelphur | 17:00 |
| Azelphur | there's a dude on bitmit that will spam you with dropbox referrals for 0.3BTC (~90 pence) | 17:00 |
| Azelphur | so I have like 18GB | 17:00 |
| popey | i love U1 ☺ | 17:03 |
| Azelphur | I tried U1 a while back, but I really need right click > copy public link, and they didn't have it then dunno if they do now | 17:04 |
| Azelphur | I mainly use dropbox as a public file hosting space | 17:04 |
| popey | we do | 17:04 |
| Azelphur | hehe, new :) | 17:04 |
| gord | not really, quite old :P | 17:05 |
| popey | pretty sure we had it before dropbox | 17:09 |
| Azelphur | popey: nah definitely not, I remember using dropbox, and trying out U1 and it not having that feature so going back again | 17:13 |
| daftykins | ;) | 17:16 |
| daftykins | my coder friend is horrified at dropbox' mem usage on Windows | 17:16 |
| daftykins | evening all o/ | 17:17 |
| daftykins | i have one extremely clean house as of today | 17:20 |
| daftykins | and two estate agents fighting for the role to sell it for me | 17:20 |
| Aivaras | Does Scotland have own ubuntu irc chanel? | 17:24 |
| daftykins | *shrug* | 17:24 |
| daftykins | is there even a Scottish TLD? | 17:24 |
| Azelphur | http://loco.ubuntu.com/teams/ | 17:25 |
| Azelphur | I don't see one | 17:25 |
| Aivaras | where ever I go, there is no linux users :D | 17:25 |
| daftykins | Aivaras: maybe you scare them away | 17:26 |
| Aivaras | daftykins, well I'm trying find them... I'm organising release parties in my city and have done presentations about ubuntu in local schools | 17:27 |
| daftykins | interesting, did you contact the schools and they said 'sure come talk about <thing i don't understand>' ? :> | 17:28 |
| Azelphur | http://loadingreadyrun.com/videos/view/201/Installation old video, but awesome :P | 17:28 |
| popey | Aivaras: scotlug | 17:29 |
| popey | #scotlug has lots of people in it | 17:29 |
| Azelphur | MWAVE$ xD | 17:30 |
| daftykins | XD | 17:32 |
| daftykins | "that's what they said to Galileo" | 17:33 |
| daftykins | XD | 17:33 |
| Azelphur | hehe | 17:34 |
| daftykins | ah good times | 17:35 |
| daftykins | i love the way you can install it on practically anything but really once you get there it's like "well, er, ok i'm done" | 17:35 |
| Azelphur | haha | 17:36 |
| Aivaras | daftykins, I contacted schools from Univesitie so they don't give a **** about what are you going to talk while you are with university :D | 17:36 |
| daftykins | oic | 17:37 |
| daftykins | "That was a lovely young man, i wonder what he was talking about. Oh well!" :D | 17:37 |
| Aivaras | daftykins, Yeah, basicly. Must have: black suit :D | 17:46 |
| daftykins | =] | 17:46 |
| Aivaras | daftykins, from my point of view - schools are open for people to share ideas with students :) | 17:47 |
| daftykins | they certainly should be | 17:47 |
| Aivaras | I was to five schools, all accepted :) | 17:47 |
| daftykins | neat | 17:48 |
| daftykins | hand out discs at the time or? | 17:48 |
| Aivaras | yeah, had CDs, also had computer class for live demonstration :) | 17:48 |
| Aivaras | Burned 200 CDs that time... :D | 17:49 |
| Aivaras | For 12.04 release party at friday - four people are registered... :( | 17:51 |
| Aivaras | Funny fact: I'm organising release parties for ubuntu, but have never used it for a longer then a week :D | 17:55 |
| daftykins | XD | 18:00 |
| daftykins | may be interesting if you get any complex installation woes to troubleshoot then | 18:01 |
| daftykins | were anyone to ask for help / get involved in any | 18:01 |
| ali1234 | i'd always suspected that most ubuntu advocates just like advocating things and don't really have any understanding of the OS or the ideals behind it | 18:01 |
| Aivaras | daftykins, I know debian and arch linux well :D | 18:01 |
| Aivaras | ali1234, I'm not for ubuntu. I'm for linux, but ubuntu seems to be the most suitible for new users so... | 18:02 |
| ali1234 | not really | 18:03 |
| daftykins | Aivaras: oic | 18:03 |
| ali1234 | ubuntu is suitable for new users only if they bought hardware with it already installed | 18:03 |
| ali1234 | after-market installs aren't really the focus any more, it's all about convincing OEMs to ship it at this point | 18:04 |
| ali1234 | (and this is what i meant about not understanding the ideals - the ideals have changed quite a bit in the past couple of years) | 18:04 |
| daftykins | is it ever going to happen given the widely understood approach Microsoft have to getting exclusivity though? | 18:05 |
| Aivaras | ali1234, 1) the lot of users (easy to find help), 2) good hw support, 3) everything (+/-) is preinstalled | 18:05 |
| ali1234 | if you need any of those things you are much better off buying a mac | 18:05 |
| Aivaras | I don't need - new users does | 18:06 |
| ali1234 | daftykins: microsoft is dead, it's a walking corpse, and it has been for a couple of years now | 18:06 |
| Aivaras | walking? | 18:06 |
| Aivaras | no way :D | 18:06 |
| ali1234 | everything has changed | 18:07 |
| ali1234 | microsoft is no longer the company you have to beat. not it is google and apple | 18:07 |
| Aivaras | crawling - the best I can say about m$ :D | 18:07 |
| ali1234 | this is the reason microsoft has made windows 8 into something crazy | 18:08 |
| ali1234 | that last time they did that was with windows xp when they were severly lagging behind everyone else in internet support | 18:08 |
| ali1234 | and we know how well that turned out: their product was highly insecure and it basically destroyed consumer confidence in PCs | 18:08 |
| ali1234 | now people are afraid to go online in case they get a virus or someone steals their bank details | 18:09 |
| ali1234 | the way you advocate ubuntu is the same way microsoft sold windows xp 10+ years ago | 18:10 |
| ali1234 | you can get online straight away, it's secure, and you can get help easily. you don;t need to learn anything... | 18:10 |
| davmor2 | bigcalm: you about still? | 18:11 |
| Aivaras | Well, I have to kill myself now... I spoiled much children lifes then :( | 18:11 |
| daftykins | what's promoting this idea of easy help for Ubuntu? | 18:12 |
| ali1234 | i don't know | 18:12 |
| daftykins | if i had a problem i'd come on here, but i haven't had the best luck with that approach... | 18:13 |
| dogmatic69 | how do I get the current build info? | 18:14 |
| dogmatic69 | want to update a bug and say it seems to work with the latest updates | 18:14 |
| ali1234 | basically every time you replace a compromised windows install with ubuntu you are lowering the average intelligence of ubuntu users, and therefore making the platform an easier target | 18:14 |
| daftykins | the bug works! \o/ | 18:14 |
| daftykins | wait what? :> | 18:14 |
| brobostigon | ch5, pub dig, my local, :) :( | 18:16 |
| ali1234 | it's happening to apple right now as ex-windows xp users move to it rather than 7 | 18:17 |
| ali1234 | or rather, they are moved to it by well meaning computer literate relatives | 18:18 |
| daftykins | i've definitely felt i'm losing market potential not having more OS X exposure | 18:18 |
| daftykins | still think macs are a joke though XD | 18:18 |
| Aivaras | "still think macs are a joke though" you sir deserved a medal :D | 18:18 |
| ali1234 | the real joke is giving an incredibly powerful tool to someone who has no idea how to use it... | 18:19 |
| daftykins | Aivaras: you agree or? :) | 18:19 |
| Aivaras | daftykins, How could I argue? :D | 18:19 |
| daftykins | dunno, you might don a monacle and say I LOVE THE SHINY | 18:19 |
| Aivaras | Well, I own an iPod ;D | 18:20 |
| daftykins | get out. | 18:22 |
| daftykins | ;) | 18:22 |
| Aivaras | look at mp3 players now :) | 18:22 |
| Aivaras | Market is dead. | 18:22 |
| ali1234 | i don't know anyone who still carries one | 18:23 |
| daftykins | me o/ | 18:23 |
| Aivaras | Because they like listen crappy quality music with crapy headphones with phones. | 18:23 |
| Aivaras | No offence. | 18:23 |
| daftykins | i'm this very moment plugged into a creative labs muvo2 4GB player | 18:23 |
| ali1234 | phone hardware is identical to mp3 player hardware | 18:23 |
| daftykins | to V0 transcoded MP3 (from FLAC) with very good Technics cans :D | 18:24 |
| daftykins | my phone still sounds a bit crap compared to this ancient player | 18:24 |
| Aivaras | ali1234, Google about Digital analog Converter :) | 18:24 |
| daftykins | and the 'phones are definitely not the weak link | 18:24 |
| ali1234 | oh please, don't give me that audiophile rubbish | 18:24 |
| ali1234 | the weak link is the file compression | 18:25 |
| Aivaras | Its not rubbish. It is not about gold vs cooper cables with identical resistence. | 18:25 |
| Aivaras | ali1234, of course if you are listening to 126 kbps mp3 rip. | 18:26 |
| Aivaras | And one more weak link is headphones. | 18:28 |
| daftykins | he's rather fond of his 96Kbps Britney collection! | 18:30 |
| Aivaras | WHat is bitrate of standart audio CD? | 18:33 |
| Aivaras | btw daftykins - this is the reason of buying an iPod :) http://twitpic.com/949gcu | 18:35 |
| daftykins | 1411Kbps | 18:35 |
| daftykins | getting a chavvy head unit and having the brand logo show up? | 18:36 |
| daftykins | wowzer | 18:36 |
| Aivaras | Ability to have same music in car, on the go. :) | 18:36 |
| daftykins | i might learn to drive once i get home | 18:37 |
| daftykins | 27, 10 years of money saved is probably enough ^_^ | 18:37 |
| Aivaras | Where are you form? | 18:37 |
| daftykins | Guernsey | 18:38 |
| daftykins | trying to think of music to chuck on my portable :S | 18:38 |
| daftykins | i miss the days when i could fit my whole collection on my 20GB creative zen | 18:38 |
| Aivaras | daftykins, http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Thirteen_(Megadeth_album) take this :) | 18:38 |
| daftykins | huge diary size thing XD | 18:39 |
| jacobw | what do you have now? | 18:42 |
| * jacobw scrolled | 18:42 | |
| Aivaras | jacobw, Sorry about that | 18:43 |
| jacobw | lol @ digital to analogue converter | 18:43 |
| daftykins | ugh | 18:44 |
| daftykins | know that feeling when you're not in the mood for anything you've got? | 18:44 |
| daftykins | or can't work out your mood... | 18:45 |
| Aivaras | So open irc and look for channels to flood :D | 18:45 |
| daftykins | hmm Aphex Twin may work... | 18:45 |
| Aivaras | wiki says that it is electronics :( | 18:46 |
| daftykins | ultimately, yeah | 18:47 |
| Aivaras | I thooth we were talking about music... :D | 18:47 |
| daftykins | well you can't go judging by one name ^_^ | 18:47 |
| Aivaras | I don't. | 18:47 |
| daftykins | yeah just joking | 18:47 |
| daftykins | Rage were a close second choice | 18:47 |
| Aivaras | I just don't think about electrical noise as music. | 18:48 |
| daftykins | so you don't like guitars? :D | 18:48 |
| Aivaras | I like quitars, i don't like computer that plays them. :D | 18:49 |
| daftykins | ok now what to have for food | 18:49 |
| daftykins | Aivaras: do you use last.fm ? | 18:50 |
| ali1234 | aphex twin is quite well known for using analogue synthesizers | 18:50 |
| Aivaras | daftykins, Not really. | 18:50 |
| daftykins | yeah loves his old hardware so i hear | 18:50 |
| daftykins | Aivaras: www.last.fm/user/daftykins | 18:51 |
| ali1234 | squarepushers is really a jazz bassist by default | 18:51 |
| daftykins | doesn't get my portable plays mind | 18:51 |
| MartijnVdS | \o/ laptop has SSD now | 18:51 |
| MartijnVdS | so quiet | 18:51 |
| daftykins | :) | 18:52 |
| daftykins | you can fling it around safely now :D | 18:52 |
| MartijnVdS | exactly | 18:52 |
| MartijnVdS | The installer is broken with btrfs root though :( | 18:52 |
| Aivaras | daftykins, "Music you have in common includes Alice Cooper, Third Eye Blind, Led Zeppelin and Nirvana" :D | 18:53 |
| jacobw | does it fsck yet? | 18:53 |
| MartijnVdS | jacobw: eys | 18:53 |
| jacobw | :D | 18:53 |
| daftykins | Aivaras: \o/ | 18:53 |
| jacobw | i so want to use btrfs in production | 18:53 |
| ali1234 | anyone else following dholbach on g+? i didn't know he was also a DJ :) | 18:53 |
| jacobw | i didn't know that | 18:53 |
| ali1234 | http://www.mixcloud.com/dholbach | 18:54 |
| jacobw | zfs is the filesystem, but i don't want to deal with bsd or solaris | 18:54 |
| MartijnVdS | He has been one for ages | 18:54 |
| daftykins | 12TB RAID6 array i did last for a client i put XFS on | 18:54 |
| daftykins | as i read it's good with big files | 18:54 |
| daftykins | so, HD films and DVD ISOs (his film collection) | 18:55 |
| jacobw | i haven't heard about xfs for a long time | 18:55 |
| daftykins | ooh-err, did i back a dead horse? | 18:55 |
| jacobw | i remember running suse 10.0 with an xfs root | 18:55 |
| jacobw | for the live resize capability that i didn't need :| | 18:56 |
| daftykins | :D | 18:57 |
| daftykins | amuses me when peeps sometimes tout features of technologies they never use | 18:57 |
| daftykins | but it can feed me bagels in a hospital bed! | 18:57 |
| daftykins | i... see | 18:57 |
| jacobw | heh | 18:58 |
| * jacobw wonders how a bagel feeding machine would depend on a hospital bed | 18:58 | |
| daftykins | because you'd not be able to feed yourself in such a predicament | 18:59 |
| daftykins | trust me, i thought it through | 18:59 |
| jacobw | i don't think you have :( | 18:59 |
| daftykins | then we shall speak of it no more | 18:59 |
| * jacobw thinks about puppet vs chef | 18:59 | |
| daftykins | ? | 19:00 |
| jacobw | configuration management tool chains | 19:01 |
| jacobw | both of these things compete in the devops space | 19:01 |
| jacobw | along with canonical's juju | 19:02 |
| * jacobw disregards juju | 19:02 | |
| jacobw | chef feels proprietary to me :( | 19:08 |
| MartijnVdS | we use puppet at work | 19:09 |
| MartijnVdS | deploy = make .deb, upload to local archive server | 19:10 |
| MartijnVdS | have puppet upgrade the packages automatically | 19:10 |
| MartijnVdS | \o/ | 19:10 |
| jacobw | :) | 19:11 |
| jacobw | i like distributing configuration by dpkg but i have to manage several rhel machines | 19:12 |
| Aivaras | my internet connection is too slow even for ssh :( | 19:13 |
| BigRedS | every time I've seen anyone ask about a problem with chef, the solution mooted tends to be 'puppet' | 19:13 |
| BigRedS | that's mostly why we went with puppet at work | 19:13 |
| jacobw | what's your latency? | 19:13 |
| MartijnVdS | jacobw: /etc/ files are managed by puppet | 19:13 |
| Aivaras | jacobw, not the latency is the problem but unstable connection | 19:18 |
| Aivaras | http://www.speedtest.net/result/1913446245.png and speed of course... | 19:18 |
| directhex | i'm almost out of red bull cola :/ | 20:26 |
| brobostigon | :( | 20:27 |
| bigcalm | directhex: what about the rum supply? | 20:27 |
| brobostigon | directhex: did you see pub dig in banbury on ch5? | 20:27 |
| directhex | brobostigon: non! | 20:28 |
| brobostigon | directhex: :( | 20:28 |
| directhex | bigcalm: looking good on rum. still have some diplomatico to finish off | 20:28 |
| directhex | brobostigon: miiddleton road was closed again due to exploding | 20:28 |
| bigcalm | I know nothing of rum types/names :) | 20:28 |
| brobostigon | directhex: a bomb apparently. | 20:29 |
| directhex | brobostigon: more WW1 phosphorous anti-tank shells found in the building site next to tesco express | 20:29 |
| brobostigon | directhex: i think so, yes. | 20:29 |
| brobostigon | directhex: fancy meeting up for a ber again, sometime? | 20:30 |
| brobostigon | beer* | 20:30 |
| directhex | sure, that can be arranged | 20:30 |
| brobostigon | directhex: you get hold of me, and me can work from there. | 20:31 |
| brobostigon | directhex: as ofcourse, you have your wife to think about. | 20:32 |
| daftykins | by that he means ask permission from ;) | 20:35 |
| daftykins | me and a friend drew up a "<friends name here> request form" for such purposes \o/ | 20:35 |
| brobostigon | ummm, | 20:35 |
| brobostigon | welll. | 20:35 |
| daftykins | yeah it's just me and my sense of humour again | 20:36 |
| daftykins | don't worry | 20:36 |
| brobostigon | :) | 20:36 |
| brobostigon | directhex: thursday, reinedeerm quiz ? | 20:38 |
| brobostigon | reinedeer* | 20:38 |
| AlanBell | what is the point of instagram? | 20:51 |
| AlanBell | it makes pictures square and with fuzzy edges or something? | 20:51 |
| === matthew is now known as Guest61000 | ||
| Laney | ctrl-alt-shift+arrows is very hard to type on my laptop | 20:53 |
| * Laney is giving unity a go | 20:53 | |
| Aivaras | AlanBell, Are you want to know why would ever pay for it 1B USD? | 20:53 |
| AlanBell | well I don't think that has an answer, but why would lots of people find it compelling? | 20:54 |
| Aivaras | AlanBell, People are stupid. | 20:54 |
| ali1234 | /bubble | 20:55 |
| ali1234 | it's not the same tech bubble as last time. this time it involves mobile phones | 20:56 |
| Aivaras | After android got instagram, all the geeks in my twitter feed switched to it just because its new and... well new :D | 20:56 |
| BigRedS | AlanBell: that's basically it. I think it goes along with everybody being a photographer at the moment | 20:56 |
| ali1234 | what is instagram? | 20:56 |
| AlanBell | I hadn't heard of it until it got bought | 20:56 |
| ali1234 | all the "geeks" are on g+ | 20:57 |
| AlanBell | I think I may have seen a few square pictures on twitter, but didn't attach much significance to it | 20:57 |
| ali1234 | also i really hate when people use "geek" and "nerd" to describe themselves | 20:57 |
| ali1234 | no true geek or nerd would self identify that way | 20:57 |
| ali1234 | it's like how "hacker" is misused, except in reverse | 20:58 |
| BigRedS | AlanBell: then you're just not their target market and nor are the people whose photos you look at | 20:59 |
| Aivaras | Real question is what is a geek... | 20:59 |
| ali1234 | a geek is the horrible charactature you see on shows like the big bang theory | 20:59 |
| popey | or the people who attend LUG meetings and install tiling window managers that require recompilation in order to configure | 21:00 |
| Aivaras | shelon uses windows... :D | 21:00 |
| popey | he's not real, you know that? ☺ | 21:00 |
| Aivaras | sheldon* | 21:00 |
| * Laney looks at his xmonad config | 21:01 | |
| * Laney hides | 21:01 | |
| Aivaras | I know, but ali1234 seams to not know :D | 21:01 |
| daftykins | funnily enough i'm watching BBT right now :O | 21:01 |
| daftykins | mostly because my friend had it and i've no way to get TV right now XD | 21:01 |
| Aivaras | is new episode out? | 21:01 |
| daftykins | nah i'm on s1 | 21:02 |
| Aivaras | oh lucky you | 21:02 |
| Aivaras | Game of Thrones 02 04 is on the way to my PC :)) | 21:02 |
| daftykins | not touched that one | 21:03 |
| daftykins | nor read, not fond of fantasy lark | 21:03 |
| Aivaras | And you don't read the book do you? | 21:03 |
| daftykins | Aivaras: that's the 'nor read' part yeah :D | 21:05 |
| Aivaras | Sorry, I was wathing into the other monitor while typing :D | 21:05 |
| AlanBell | lemsip with wiskey sounds like a good idea | 21:10 |
| silner | Ever notice how phenylephrine + alcohol doesn't have the same ring to it :) | 21:12 |
| Laney | can I turn off the super+numbers thing (to quick launch applications) in unity? | 21:16 |
| ali1234 | you can change "key to show launcher" to "disabled" | 21:17 |
| ali1234 | that will also disable the shortcut help window | 21:18 |
| Laney | ideally I would still be able to get to the dash | 21:21 |
| ali1234 | you can | 21:21 |
| ali1234 | just click the bfb | 21:21 |
| Laney | via keyboard | 21:21 |
| ali1234 | then no, it is impossible | 21:21 |
| Laney | ho hom | 21:24 |
| Laney | hum | 21:24 |
| Aivaras | email from boss went to a spam box :DD Well played google! :D | 21:25 |
| popey | is your boss called Mr.viagra@cialis.com ? | 21:26 |
| Aivaras | In that case I would already sold some viagra to you. :D | 21:28 |
| zleap | anyone seen this http://www.ibtimes.com/articles/332690/20120424/usb-vintage-typewriter-keyboard-mac-pc-ipad.htm | 21:41 |
| zleap | usb typewriter | 21:41 |
| gord | if i see anyone using that with an ipad, i'm going to slap them | 21:46 |
| ali1234 | does an ipad even have usb? | 21:48 |
| daftykins | didn't think so | 21:48 |
| daftykins | ah dock connector | 21:49 |
| daftykins | maybe they can use that | 21:49 |
| shauno | it'll actually use a lot more devices than it claims over the 'camera connector' kit thing | 21:49 |
| === Lcawte is now known as Lcawte|Away | ||
| daftykins | Checking domains.. | 22:20 |
| daftykins | techblo.gg, 1 years £47 | 22:20 |
| daftykins | .gg are so expensive >_< | 22:20 |
| brobostigon | .me.uk is dirt cheap. | 22:23 |
| brobostigon | think it is possible, to hire, nick mason, to play your birthday, and then play with him ? | 23:00 |
| dogmatic69 | anyone have issues with copy / paste? | 23:18 |
| dogmatic69 | sometimes it does not work :( | 23:19 |
| Azelphur | dogmatic69: I bet it's because you copy, close the application, then try to paste | 23:31 |
| Azelphur | that annoys the crap outta me | 23:31 |
| dogmatic69 | I bet its not :/ | 23:31 |
| dogmatic69 | copy from netbeans alt-tab to chrome -> paste broken | 23:31 |
| dogmatic69 | cant paste into textarea, but I can paste in the url bar | 23:32 |
| dogmatic69 | can also paste here | 23:32 |
| dogmatic69 | cant paste to any fields in chrome / google chrome but works here, libreoffice, url bar etc | 23:33 |
| dogmatic69 | hmm, I can copy from chrome and paste it back in | 23:35 |
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