| thafreak | anyone play with zfs on linux? | 14:23 |
|---|---|---|
| thafreak | i guess a kernel module version exists.. | 14:24 |
| paultag | thafreak: I've fiddled with it (very lightly) with Debain GNU/kFreeBSD, so I guess, no :) | 14:24 |
| thafreak | i've played with freenas...that's about as close as i've gotten | 14:24 |
| thafreak | everyone seems to be scared of btrfs....even though i've never had any problems yet | 14:25 |
| paultag | I've had grave issues with btrfs | 14:26 |
| paultag | including dataloss | 14:26 |
| paultag | and over 10 minute boots | 14:26 |
| thafreak | since 10.04? | 14:26 |
| thafreak | oh | 14:26 |
| paultag | I think it was about a year ago | 14:26 |
| thafreak | i've only used it for like my /home | 14:26 |
| thafreak | not for root | 14:26 |
| paultag | I used it for my whole FS | 14:26 |
| paultag | I wanted to, you know, test it | 14:26 |
| thafreak | gotcha | 14:26 |
| thafreak | well that's one way | 14:27 |
| paultag | grave issues :) | 14:27 |
| paultag | It took about 2 months to degrade to about 5 minute boots | 14:27 |
| paultag | from ~10 seconds ext4 | 14:27 |
| thafreak | oh | 14:27 |
| thafreak | well ext4 is fast...btrfs is designed to be uber-reliable (eventually) | 14:27 |
| thafreak | so it'll be slower | 14:28 |
| paultag | I had to wipe it a week later when it got passwd 10 minutes | 14:28 |
| paultag | passed * | 14:28 |
| thafreak | figured ;) | 14:28 |
| thafreak | i'm mostly intrigued by the checksumming and other features in btrfs and zfs | 14:29 |
| thafreak | and the copy on write stuff is awesome | 14:29 |
| paultag | /join #debian-kfreebsd | 14:29 |
| paultag | on oftc :) | 14:29 |
| thafreak | yeah | 14:29 |
| thafreak | is it more zfs stuff | 14:29 |
| paultag | yeah | 14:30 |
| thafreak | they bash on btrfs there? | 14:30 |
| paultag | I don't think so | 14:30 |
| paultag | I think everyone knows btrfs is the future | 14:30 |
| paultag | it's just very very buggy right now | 14:30 |
| paultag | with grave data issues | 14:31 |
| thafreak | why hasn't oracle just re-license their already open zfs code | 14:31 |
| * paultag shrugs | 14:31 | |
| paultag | it's oracle | 14:31 |
| thafreak | i know they don't release any of the new stuff open at all | 14:31 |
| thafreak | so zfs is where it is, but it's all cddl or whatever that stupid sun license was | 14:31 |
| thafreak | if they would just change the old already out there code to gpl, i'm sure it would get mainlined | 14:32 |
| paultag | yeah | 14:35 |
| paultag | totes | 14:35 |
| thafreak | have you ever checked out csync? | 14:38 |
| paultag | nah | 14:38 |
| thafreak | i really like the idea behind it | 14:38 |
| thafreak | but it's got some odd dependancies | 14:39 |
| thafreak | and i tend to avoid compiling from source these days for some reason | 14:39 |
| thafreak | but the idea is pretty awesome | 14:39 |
| thafreak | client side sync....think unison, or rsync, but without needing unison or rsync on the remote end | 14:40 |
| thafreak | can sync to sftp, samba, webdav currently | 14:40 |
| thafreak | and there's a pam module, to make roming home dirs...you login, and it syncs your homedir down | 14:40 |
| thafreak | i found it while looking at owncloud...i guess it's used for the upcoming linux desktop sync tool for owncloud | 14:41 |
| andygraybeal | hey | 15:42 |
| andygraybeal | hi | 15:42 |
| andygraybeal | :) | 15:42 |
| canthus13 | good morning. | 16:07 |
| Unit193 | Good afternoon. | 16:09 |
| canthus13 | Yay. Level 3 broke their stuff again.. Lotsa sites are unreachable... including godaddy. so anyone who hosts their DNS with godaddy is unreachable by our customers. :/ | 16:13 |
| thafreak | anyone who hosts their dns with godaddy is an amateur | 16:25 |
| thafreak | and obviously doesn't care if their site is reachable | 16:25 |
| thafreak | :) | 16:25 |
| thafreak | or has no business managing a website if they do care | 16:26 |
| thafreak | fyi, I'm a huge fan of dns made easy... | 16:29 |
| thafreak | http://www.dnsmadeeasy.com/ | 16:29 |
| thafreak | if anyone is looking for hosted DNS that is badaass | 16:29 |
| thafreak | $60/year for up to 25 domains and I think 10 millions DNS queries/month | 16:30 |
| thafreak | anyone who doesn't charge by the query, is either crap, or costs alot more :) | 16:31 |
| thafreak | dyn is good too, but they're more like $30/domain/year | 16:31 |
| thafreak | unless you're grandfathered in to their lifetime plans like me... | 16:31 |
| thafreak | so glad I donated that $30 way back then | 16:31 |
| * thafreak reverse engineering a django app, cause there's no docs :( | 16:45 | |
| * thafreak thought he was a sysadmin.... | 16:45 | |
| jrgifford | So, google drive is now alive. Meh. | 16:50 |
| thafreak | orly | 16:54 |
| thafreak | and no fanfair? | 16:54 |
| thafreak | is it not dropbox quality :) | 16:54 |
| Unit193 | No linux. | 16:54 |
| jrgifford | no linux indeed. | 16:55 |
| thafreak | this makes more sense now as to why duplicati added googledocs support | 16:58 |
| thafreak | it seems docs and drive are basically one in the same | 16:58 |
| jrgifford | for right now, yeah it is | 16:58 |
| jrgifford | in the future though... i have a feeling it'll expand | 16:58 |
| thafreak | but it's probably the same API for adding/uploading files is what I'm saying | 16:59 |
| jrgifford | yeah. | 16:59 |
| thafreak | well atleast I can finally hide old docs | 17:00 |
| thafreak | the whole make a folder, but then the docs in that folder are still in the main view, pissed me off | 17:00 |
| thafreak | what's also funny, I have about 10 "documents"...99.99% of the files I care about aren't "documents" | 17:02 |
| thafreak | only students, business types seem to have lots of "documents" | 17:02 |
| thafreak | let me store random binary data...then i'll be happy :) | 17:02 |
| canthus13 | blargh. | 17:16 |
| jrgifford | thafreak: yay for random binary data. :) | 17:21 |
| canthus13 | thafreak: The problem is there are a lot of amateurs out there and people want to get to their websites. And apparently there's more than just godaddy traffic being blocked. :/ | 17:33 |
| canthus13 | Level 3 are the amateurs. they screw stuff up every couple of months.. either with internet or with long distance routing. | 17:34 |
| thafreak | haha | 17:34 |
| canthus13 | not that cogent (one of our other carriers) is any better. | 17:34 |
| thafreak | yeah, i heard bad things about them all the time | 17:34 |
| thafreak | haha i've dealt with cogent in the past | 17:34 |
| canthus13 | We had to get a line from AT&T on short notice to rout around cogent a few months ago 'coz of their screwups. | 17:35 |
| thafreak | they're the carrier for the place i have my server colocated at in florida | 17:35 |
| thafreak | figures | 17:35 |
| canthus13 | *route | 17:35 |
| thafreak | i bet most of the problems i have with my colocation host is just cogent sucking then | 17:35 |
| canthus13 | I swear the internet is held together with christmas tinsel and toothpaste. | 17:36 |
| thafreak | and at the end of the day, we just get blamed for it all | 17:36 |
| canthus13 | yup. | 17:36 |
| thafreak | you have to admit though, most of this stuff was invented like 40-50+ years ago, and most hasn't really changed in 30+ years | 17:37 |
| thafreak | so tinsel and toothpaste as it may be, it's held up pretty well... | 17:38 |
| canthus13 | true. | 17:38 |
| thafreak | but it does suck, and could stand to be improved...preferably some how get away from relying on asshole providers | 17:38 |
| canthus13 | the problem now is it's not one homogenous company running the show. | 17:38 |
| thafreak | we need a U.N. type body for the internet... | 17:39 |
| canthus13 | that wouldn't stop various providers from screwing up. | 17:39 |
| canthus13 | and I wouldn't model it after something as useless as the U.N. :/ | 17:39 |
| thafreak | so we can put the comcasts and cogents on trial for the internet equivalent of war crimes | 17:39 |
| thafreak | still, i'd like to see them on trial for crimes against the internet | 17:40 |
| canthus13 | Heh. | 17:40 |
| canthus13 | The bigger danger to the internet right now is congress. :( | 17:41 |
| thafreak | ikr...congress is like the internet's Syria... | 17:43 |
| canthus13 | the new sopa: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cyber_Intelligence_Sharing_and_Protection_Act | 17:43 |
| thafreak | yeah saw that | 17:43 |
| thafreak | that mpaa dude just won't give up | 17:43 |
| thafreak | keeps writing new laws for congress to be behind | 17:44 |
| thafreak | is that the one that specifically talks about child porn? | 17:44 |
| thafreak | to basically shame any congress person into approving it... | 17:44 |
| thafreak | cause what self respecting congress person wouldn't sign an anti child porn law | 17:44 |
| canthus13 | the wiki article doesn't mention child pr0n. | 17:45 |
| thafreak | good, then hopefully it will die too | 17:45 |
| canthus13 | Even Facebook is on board with this one. :/ | 17:46 |
| jrgifford | Facebook has to play the big game now, because they are trying to go public | 17:46 |
| thafreak | facebook==assholes anyway | 17:46 |
| thafreak | any huge company on the internet shouldn't get to say what we should do on the internet | 17:47 |
| thafreak | esp google! | 17:47 |
| thafreak | and even more esp facebook | 17:47 |
| thafreak | they'd sell their own moms ssn to get ahead | 17:48 |
| thafreak | is zuckerberg's mom on facebook btw? | 17:48 |
| canthus13 | Ok.. latest update.. It appears that it's probably a GoDaddy issue, since we forced the traffic through both cogent and qwest with no improvement. Yay. :P And it appears that it only affects us... :/ | 17:53 |
| Unit193 | Eh, lubuntu.net is GoDaddy it seems, just checked. | 17:56 |
| canthus13 | ...and it's unreachable by me. :P | 17:57 |
| Unit193 | Hah, fine here. | 17:58 |
| canthus13 | I swear.. Godaddy techs just pick a company name out of a hopper and blame them... NOw they're saying it's Qwest's fault... except that our default path to godaddy is Level3. | 18:32 |
| paultag | godaddy sucks | 18:34 |
| paultag | I don't know why I use them | 18:34 |
| canthus13 | ...That was rather pathetic for a Visigoth raid. | 18:45 |
| * canthus13 would have expected plundering and pillaging at the very least. :/ | 18:45 | |
| thafreak | name.com people | 18:53 |
| thafreak | fsck godaddy | 18:53 |
| Unit193 | BiosElement loves them as well. | 18:56 |
| Unit193 | Hah, ASCII art in whois. :P | 18:56 |
| thafreak | so...there's a colby 7" tablet that's only like $120 running ice cream sandwich | 19:01 |
| thafreak | but no google apps... | 19:01 |
| thafreak | tempted to get it | 19:01 |
| thafreak | 1ghz arm | 19:02 |
| * paultag ponders | 19:02 | |
| thafreak | i love my 10" tablet, but it's more of a family one...i.e. the wife uses it :) | 19:02 |
| thafreak | so I leave it at home all the time...would love a smaller one to keep with me | 19:03 |
| canthus13 | thafreak: Coby? That's some seriously crappy stuff. | 19:14 |
| * canthus13 wouldn't be surprised if the coby tabled had a 100mhz processor. | 19:15 | |
| _bbb_ | i picked up a refurbed lenovo k1 recently | 19:18 |
| _bbb_ | tegra2 honeycomb | 19:19 |
| _bbb_ | $250 | 19:19 |
| _bbb_ | totally decent i must say | 19:19 |
| _bbb_ | I upgraded from a nook color running cm7 on sd =) | 19:23 |
| _bbb_ | they had that dell streak 7" on woot the other day | 19:23 |
| * canthus13 avoids woot. It pisses his wife off. | 19:23 | |
| _bbb_ | if i did just get this lenovo i might have jumped on that | 19:23 |
| _bbb_ | heh my wife is worse than I on there | 19:23 |
| canthus13 | Ooo.. a woot-off. | 19:27 |
| BiosElement | Unit193: Yay for late responses, and yes, yes I do :P | 21:05 |
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