[14:23] anyone play with zfs on linux? [14:24] i guess a kernel module version exists.. [14:24] thafreak: I've fiddled with it (very lightly) with Debain GNU/kFreeBSD, so I guess, no :) [14:24] i've played with freenas...that's about as close as i've gotten [14:25] everyone seems to be scared of btrfs....even though i've never had any problems yet [14:26] I've had grave issues with btrfs [14:26] including dataloss [14:26] and over 10 minute boots [14:26] since 10.04? [14:26] oh [14:26] I think it was about a year ago [14:26] i've only used it for like my /home [14:26] not for root [14:26] I used it for my whole FS [14:26] I wanted to, you know, test it [14:26] gotcha [14:27] well that's one way [14:27] grave issues :) [14:27] It took about 2 months to degrade to about 5 minute boots [14:27] from ~10 seconds ext4 [14:27] oh [14:27] well ext4 is fast...btrfs is designed to be uber-reliable (eventually) [14:28] so it'll be slower [14:28] I had to wipe it a week later when it got passwd 10 minutes [14:28] passed * [14:28] figured ;) [14:29] i'm mostly intrigued by the checksumming and other features in btrfs and zfs [14:29] and the copy on write stuff is awesome [14:29] /join #debian-kfreebsd [14:29] on oftc :) [14:29] yeah [14:29] is it more zfs stuff [14:30] yeah [14:30] they bash on btrfs there? [14:30] I don't think so [14:30] I think everyone knows btrfs is the future [14:30] it's just very very buggy right now [14:31] with grave data issues [14:31] why hasn't oracle just re-license their already open zfs code [14:31] * paultag shrugs [14:31] it's oracle [14:31] i know they don't release any of the new stuff open at all [14:31] so zfs is where it is, but it's all cddl or whatever that stupid sun license was [14:32] if they would just change the old already out there code to gpl, i'm sure it would get mainlined [14:35] yeah [14:35] totes [14:38] have you ever checked out csync? [14:38] nah [14:38] i really like the idea behind it [14:39] but it's got some odd dependancies [14:39] and i tend to avoid compiling from source these days for some reason [14:39] but the idea is pretty awesome [14:40] client side sync....think unison, or rsync, but without needing unison or rsync on the remote end [14:40] can sync to sftp, samba, webdav currently [14:40] and there's a pam module, to make roming home dirs...you login, and it syncs your homedir down [14:41] i found it while looking at owncloud...i guess it's used for the upcoming linux desktop sync tool for owncloud [15:42] hey [15:42] hi [15:42] :) [16:07] good morning. [16:09] Good afternoon. [16:13] Yay. Level 3 broke their stuff again.. Lotsa sites are unreachable... including godaddy. so anyone who hosts their DNS with godaddy is unreachable by our customers. :/ [16:25] anyone who hosts their dns with godaddy is an amateur [16:25] and obviously doesn't care if their site is reachable [16:25] :) [16:26] or has no business managing a website if they do care [16:29] fyi, I'm a huge fan of dns made easy... [16:29] http://www.dnsmadeeasy.com/ [16:29] if anyone is looking for hosted DNS that is badaass [16:30] $60/year for up to 25 domains and I think 10 millions DNS queries/month [16:31] anyone who doesn't charge by the query, is either crap, or costs alot more :) [16:31] dyn is good too, but they're more like $30/domain/year [16:31] unless you're grandfathered in to their lifetime plans like me... [16:31] so glad I donated that $30 way back then [16:45] * thafreak reverse engineering a django app, cause there's no docs :( [16:45] * thafreak thought he was a sysadmin.... [16:50] So, google drive is now alive. Meh. [16:54] orly [16:54] and no fanfair? [16:54] is it not dropbox quality :) [16:54] No linux. [16:55] no linux indeed. [16:58] this makes more sense now as to why duplicati added googledocs support [16:58] it seems docs and drive are basically one in the same [16:58] for right now, yeah it is [16:58] in the future though... i have a feeling it'll expand [16:59] but it's probably the same API for adding/uploading files is what I'm saying [16:59] yeah. [17:00] well atleast I can finally hide old docs [17:00] the whole make a folder, but then the docs in that folder are still in the main view, pissed me off [17:02] what's also funny, I have about 10 "documents"...99.99% of the files I care about aren't "documents" [17:02] only students, business types seem to have lots of "documents" [17:02] let me store random binary data...then i'll be happy :) [17:16] blargh. [17:21] thafreak: yay for random binary data. :) [17:33] thafreak: The problem is there are a lot of amateurs out there and people want to get to their websites. And apparently there's more than just godaddy traffic being blocked. :/ [17:34] Level 3 are the amateurs. they screw stuff up every couple of months.. either with internet or with long distance routing. [17:34] haha [17:34] not that cogent (one of our other carriers) is any better. [17:34] yeah, i heard bad things about them all the time [17:34] haha i've dealt with cogent in the past [17:35] We had to get a line from AT&T on short notice to rout around cogent a few months ago 'coz of their screwups. [17:35] they're the carrier for the place i have my server colocated at in florida [17:35] figures [17:35] *route [17:35] i bet most of the problems i have with my colocation host is just cogent sucking then [17:36] I swear the internet is held together with christmas tinsel and toothpaste. [17:36] and at the end of the day, we just get blamed for it all [17:36] yup. [17:37] you have to admit though, most of this stuff was invented like 40-50+ years ago, and most hasn't really changed in 30+ years [17:38] so tinsel and toothpaste as it may be, it's held up pretty well... [17:38] true. [17:38] but it does suck, and could stand to be improved...preferably some how get away from relying on asshole providers [17:38] the problem now is it's not one homogenous company running the show. [17:39] we need a U.N. type body for the internet... [17:39] that wouldn't stop various providers from screwing up. [17:39] and I wouldn't model it after something as useless as the U.N. :/ [17:39] so we can put the comcasts and cogents on trial for the internet equivalent of war crimes [17:40] still, i'd like to see them on trial for crimes against the internet [17:40] Heh. [17:41] The bigger danger to the internet right now is congress. :( [17:43] ikr...congress is like the internet's Syria... [17:43] the new sopa: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cyber_Intelligence_Sharing_and_Protection_Act [17:43] yeah saw that [17:43] that mpaa dude just won't give up [17:44] keeps writing new laws for congress to be behind [17:44] is that the one that specifically talks about child porn? [17:44] to basically shame any congress person into approving it... [17:44] cause what self respecting congress person wouldn't sign an anti child porn law [17:45] the wiki article doesn't mention child pr0n. [17:45] good, then hopefully it will die too [17:46] Even Facebook is on board with this one. :/ [17:46] Facebook has to play the big game now, because they are trying to go public [17:46] facebook==assholes anyway [17:47] any huge company on the internet shouldn't get to say what we should do on the internet [17:47] esp google! [17:47] and even more esp facebook [17:48] they'd sell their own moms ssn to get ahead [17:48] is zuckerberg's mom on facebook btw? [17:53] Ok.. latest update.. It appears that it's probably a GoDaddy issue, since we forced the traffic through both cogent and qwest with no improvement. Yay. :P And it appears that it only affects us... :/ [17:56] Eh, lubuntu.net is GoDaddy it seems, just checked. [17:57] ...and it's unreachable by me. :P [17:58] Hah, fine here. [18:32] I swear.. Godaddy techs just pick a company name out of a hopper and blame them... NOw they're saying it's Qwest's fault... except that our default path to godaddy is Level3. [18:34] godaddy sucks [18:34] I don't know why I use them [18:45] ...That was rather pathetic for a Visigoth raid. [18:45] * canthus13 would have expected plundering and pillaging at the very least. :/ [18:53] name.com people [18:53] fsck godaddy [18:56] BiosElement loves them as well. [18:56] Hah, ASCII art in whois. :P [19:01] so...there's a colby 7" tablet that's only like $120 running ice cream sandwich [19:01] but no google apps... [19:01] tempted to get it [19:02] 1ghz arm [19:02] * paultag ponders [19:02] i love my 10" tablet, but it's more of a family one...i.e. the wife uses it :) [19:03] so I leave it at home all the time...would love a smaller one to keep with me [19:14] thafreak: Coby? That's some seriously crappy stuff. [19:15] * canthus13 wouldn't be surprised if the coby tabled had a 100mhz processor. [19:18] <_bbb_> i picked up a refurbed lenovo k1 recently [19:19] <_bbb_> tegra2 honeycomb [19:19] <_bbb_> $250 [19:19] <_bbb_> totally decent i must say [19:23] <_bbb_> I upgraded from a nook color running cm7 on sd =) [19:23] <_bbb_> they had that dell streak 7" on woot the other day [19:23] * canthus13 avoids woot. It pisses his wife off. [19:23] <_bbb_> if i did just get this lenovo i might have jumped on that [19:23] <_bbb_> heh my wife is worse than I on there [19:27] Ooo.. a woot-off. [21:05] Unit193: Yay for late responses, and yes, yes I do :P