[09:52] <rmg51> Morning
[10:37] <JonathanD> Morning.
[10:38] <knightzero> Good morning!
[11:06] <InHisName> morning       ---   hey a new morning person!
[11:09] <knightzero> I'm only a morning person by necessity.  Having a job is a good thing, but it comes with it's downsides.
[11:25] <rmg51> like having to sign out now and going to work :P
[11:25] <rmg51> bye
[12:47] <InHisName> you lucky stiff, knightzero
[15:00] <passstab>  ten points to anyone who can find an example of pee using google
[15:00] <passstab>  5 if you can give me one you made yourself
[15:01] <waltman> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Manneken_Pis
[15:01] <PennBot> Title: Manneken Pis - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia (at en.wikipedia.org)
[15:05] <passstab> http://kitenet.net/~joey/code/moreutils/
[15:05] <PennBot> Title: moreutils (at kitenet.net)
[15:05] <passstab> that one
[15:07] <waltman> huh, never heard of that!
[15:12] <InHisName> Hrmmmm, Pee the reverse of Tee in unix utilities, good find passstab
[15:13] <passstab> i assumed everyone knew moreutils
[15:15] <passstab> i'm trying to make a command  go into espeak AND stdout
[15:16] <waltman> passstab: It's the intarwebs. Without context, I assumed the worst!
[15:17] <passstab> yes i see
[15:17] <passstab> thats the problem
[15:17] <passstab> "man pee" is not a good thing to google
[15:18] <passstab> InHisName, since you where asking http://blog.linuxmint.com/?p=1979
[15:18] <PennBot> Title: The Linux Mint Blog » Blog Archive » Linux Mint Debian 201204 released! (at blog.linuxmint.com)
[15:21] <InHisName> is it best savored after dinner ?
[15:21] <passstab> lol
[15:35] <passstab> i'm trying to make a command  go into espeak AND stdout, any ideas?
[15:36] <MutantTurkey> passstab: what are you trying?
[15:36] <MutantTurkey> try tee
[15:37] <MutantTurkey> passstab: does that solve your problem?
[15:37] <MutantTurkey> it might not directly
[15:38] <InHisName> well if tee not good enough, how about pee ?
[15:38] <MutantTurkey> ...
[15:38] <MutantTurkey> the door is ---> that way.
[15:39] <InHisName> MutantTurkey: did you miss this ref: (11:04:59) passstab: http://kitenet.net/~joey/code/moreutils/
[15:39] <PennBot> Title: moreutils (at kitenet.net)
[15:39] <MutantTurkey> what?
[15:39] <MutantTurkey> ah pee is what you want
[15:40] <MutantTurkey> moreutils ftw.
[15:40] <MutantTurkey> parallel is a great command
[15:56] <passstab> it is what i want?
[15:56] <passstab> how do i use it?
[15:57] <passstab> (googleing anything with the word pee is a bad idea)
[16:00] <MutantTurkey> WHY DON'T YOU READ THE MANPAGE
[16:01] <MutantTurkey> jiminey cricket
[16:01] <MutantTurkey> passstab: man pee
[16:01] <MutantTurkey> sudo apt-get install moreutils
[16:01] <passstab> i did that
[16:01] <MutantTurkey> okay
[16:02] <MutantTurkey> :-)
[16:03] <passstab> got it
[16:03] <MutantTurkey> echo "lol" | pee "cat" "sed -e 's/o/0/'"
[16:03] <MutantTurkey> see that
[16:03] <passstab> i understand now
[16:04] <passstab>  echo yay|pee cat espeak
[16:05] <MutantTurkey> yes you're a genius
[16:05] <MutantTurkey> you could even have espeak speak every command
[16:06] <passstab> not gnugo|pee cat espeak :'(
[16:08] <passstab> or maybe thats related to the alsa errors
[16:11] <passstab> http://paste.debian.net/164903/
[16:11] <PennBot> Title: debian Pastezone (at paste.debian.net)
[16:44] <adom> Thunderbird vs Evolution for linux email apps. Go.
[16:44] <adom> Evolution gets +1 for being integrated [somewhat] into ubuntu natively
[17:04] <jedijf> passstab: hook on phonics espeak ---espeak -x "do or do not. There is no try."
[17:15] <InHisName> espeak ?   I thought that was jedijf's saying.
[17:25] <jedijf> and for the record...phonics are hard to read
[17:29] <rmg51> never used Evolution
[17:29] <rmg51> so I go with T-bird
[17:35] <adom> fair enough
[17:53] <passstab> wait what?
[17:53] <passstab> InHisName, /= jedijf ???
[19:38] <moron4hire> ZOMG! WINDOWS 7 IS TEH BEST!
[19:39] <pleia2> it's nice to see people are passionate about other OSes too :)
[19:40] <JonathanD> I prefer DOS 5.0
[19:47] <waltman> DOS 2.1 ftw
[20:04] <JonathanD> I have a DOS 6.22 CD.
[20:04] <JonathanD> actual install CD.
[20:06] <MutantTurkey> i have win 3.5 on a 5 inch floppy
[20:08] <JonathanD> :D
[20:08] <JonathanD> somewhere I have the MSDN set from about 1996.
[20:08] <JonathanD> with 3.1, DOS, in many languages... NT 3.1... etc.
[20:08] <JonathanD> SDKs
[20:09] <JonathanD> Don't know why I keep stuff like that...
[20:13] <MutantTurkey> proof/
[20:13] <MutantTurkey> http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&amp;v=kG2uDf2F3cA
[20:13] <PennBot> Title: Ron Paul on CNBC 4/23/12 - YouTube (at www.youtube.com)
[20:14] <JonathanD> MutantTurkey: of what?
[20:14] <MutantTurkey> the existence of floppys
[20:14] <MutantTurkey> show your kids
[20:14] <MutantTurkey> hang it up
[20:14] <MutantTurkey> behind glass
[20:15] <JonathanD> MutantTurkey: thats a video of ron paul?
[20:15] <JonathanD> also youtube is broken for me apparently.
[20:19] <MutantTurkey> he was on cnbc
[20:28] <JonathanD> Yes.
[20:28] <JonathanD> He has a floppy disk?
[20:28] <JonathanD> I didnt' watch it yet :P
[20:28] <JonathanD> I thought maybe you had mis-pasted.
[20:29] <waltman> proof of the existence of ron paul
[20:31] <JonathanD> Oh.
[20:31] <JonathanD> Ok.
[20:35] <MutantTurkey> waltman: there is plenty of proof, you might want to look at his medical practitioner licence, his doctorate, or maybe even look at his military service... maybe one of the books or papers he has published...
[20:35] <MutantTurkey> don't mind mitt romneys perfectly terrible record...
[20:38] <waltman> There's the quote where he said he'd only approve of abortions for rape victims if it was an "honest rape".
[20:39] <waltman> I disagree with pretty much everything Ron Paul says, but that one really took the cake.
[20:39] <MutantTurkey> waltman: what do you disagree with him on specificially?
[20:39] <MutantTurkey> also I don't take 3rd hand sources
[20:40] <MutantTurkey> I'd like to know where he said that.
[20:40] <waltman> Well, that quote about "honest rape", for one thing.
[20:40] <waltman> And I think we need a Federal Reserve.
[20:40] <waltman> And I don't think we should return to the gold standard.
[20:40] <MutantTurkey> oh I see what he said
[20:40] <MutantTurkey> "nstead, he continues, noting that while the victim of an "honest rape" can take the morning after pill this one time, a different set of standards should apply to a woman who was raped and just moseys on into the doctor's office 7 months later to have one of those spontaneous late term "just-for-funsies" abortions women are so fond of having nowadays."
[20:41] <MutantTurkey> he's saying he'd prefer women to take a morning after pill than get a late term abortion? terrible!
[20:41] <waltman> Did he say "just-for-funsies"?
[20:41] <MutantTurkey> listining now
[20:41] <waltman> because you've got to admit, that's pretty damn callous.
[20:41] <MutantTurkey> yeah.
[20:42] <MutantTurkey> I don't agree with on everything
[20:42] <MutantTurkey> I also don't think that our nations largest problem has to do with unborn children...
[20:43] <MutantTurkey> ""if it's an honest [real] rape, that individual should go immediately to the emergency room. I would give them a shot of estrogen. it is absolutely in limbo, an hour or a day after intercourse, there is no legal or medical problem.
[20:44] <MutantTurkey> "if you talk about someone coming in saying " i was raped seven months ago" it's a bit of a different story
[20:44] <MutantTurkey> anyway...
[20:44] <waltman> Who decides if it's an "honest rape"?
[20:44] <MutantTurkey> IF THEY GET RAPED.
[20:45] <MutantTurkey> in the context he means that if someone is actually raped, aka not fooling around with their boyfriend, and get pregnant
[20:45] <MutantTurkey> they should go to the hospital,
[20:45] <MutantTurkey> that seems sane to me.
[20:45] <MutantTurkey> getting raped and waiting 8 months to abort seems ridiculous and is totally wrong...
[20:46] <waltman> but that's ALREADY illegal, isn't it?
[20:46] <waltman> It seems like a strawman argument to me.
[20:46] <MutantTurkey> yep!
[20:46] <MutantTurkey> seems like he's just saying what he believes.
[20:46] <MutantTurkey> he knows more about babies than you do, or any other candidates
[20:47] <MutantTurkey> he was a ob/gyn doctor, delivered thousands of babies...
[20:47] <MutantTurkey> probably knows more about abortion than mitt romtard
[20:48] <MutantTurkey> err. js/
[20:48] <waltman> He also thinks global warming is a hoax.
[20:49] <MutantTurkey> which it is...
[20:49] <MutantTurkey> sorry, it's not
[20:49] <MutantTurkey> It is defintely not as ridiculous as the movie "an inconvient truth" made it out to be
[20:49] <waltman> So why should I believe him on anything else?
[20:49] <MutantTurkey> versus who?
[20:49] <waltman> Obama?
[20:50] <MutantTurkey> obama is taking away your freedoms
[20:50] <MutantTurkey> don't you care about that?
[20:50] <MutantTurkey> obama: promises change yet changes promises
[20:50] <JonathanD> Vote for Jon.
[20:50] <waltman> Like my freedom to get gouged by health insurance companies?
[20:51] <MutantTurkey> that's happening because the government is effectively subsidising them.
[20:52] <MutantTurkey> your freedom to assemble peacably, have private affairs without the government reading your emails, be detained indefinitely for no reason, to get molested by government officials at checkpoints.
[20:53] <MutantTurkey> waltman: with a free market, prices would be lower and companies would be more effecient...
[20:54] <MutantTurkey> a government rendered service would be less efficient and cost more money. Assuming a government acts similarly to a  monopoly, economics tells us that it woudl be far from ideal to have public healthcare.
[20:54] <waltman> MutantTurkey: where was this outrage when dubya was president?
[20:55] <MutantTurkey> waltman: dude I had absolutely zero concept of anything then.
[20:55] <waltman> Right, all of this started 4 years ago.
[20:56] <MutantTurkey> all of what?
[20:56] <MutantTurkey> I'm saying we've had an ongoing problem with our government
[21:00] <MutantTurkey> waltman: that sounds like a ad hominim logical fallicy
[21:01] <MutantTurkey> http://yourlogicalfallacyis.com/ :-)
[21:01] <PennBot> Title: Thou shalt not commit logical fallacies (at yourlogicalfallacyis.com)
[21:07] <MutantTurkey> waltman: eh?
[21:44] <waltman> And I'm saying that most of the people who are complaining about it didn't say a damn thing during the 8 years Bush was in office, but elect a black democrat and it's like Lenin just took office.
[21:44] <MutantTurkey> he's not black
[21:44] <MutantTurkey> he's half white!
[21:45] <MutantTurkey> oh wait we're not talking about the guy who shot treyvon martin?
[21:45] <MutantTurkey> he was half hispanic and he got deemed white
[21:45] <MutantTurkey> ...
[21:45] <MutantTurkey> :-)
[21:45] <MutantTurkey> but yes I agree with the sentiment a bit
[21:46] <waltman> Don't you remember the "Free Speech" zones every time Dubya made an appearance? And the cries of treason whenever any dared to question his policies?
[22:35] <MutantTurkey> can I resize my partition while i'm on the system?
[23:12] <rmg51> you should be able to as long as you unmount the drive first