[00:15] <Unit193> pleia2: I can help, need any now as I'm finishing up one VM.
[06:39] <knome> pleia2, great, thanks
[06:39] <knome> pleia2, we still need to check with xfce though, we're still pending, but that should be completely fine as well
[06:41] <ochosi> there's the xfce foundation now, so just in case we want to forward any merch-money
[06:41] <ochosi> or we could even try to set up a coop with them
[06:42] <knome> yeah, i really think i should have just started a PM with JPohlmann anyway
[06:43] <ochosi> yes
[06:48] <knome> actually, i should run
[06:48] <knome> so see you later
[06:50] <ochosi> seeya
[08:29] <ochosi> humm, anyone with mpd experience around?
[08:30] <carnau> ochosi, u still nedd the screenshots?
[08:30] <ochosi> carnau: sure
[08:32] <carnau> ochosi, http://wikisend.com/download/267944/Greybird_screens.tar.gz
[08:33] <ochosi> thanks, those look great!
[08:34] <ochosi> i'll try to write up a blog-post about that soon
[08:34] <carnau> great!
[08:35] <carnau> ah, I've noticed that the background not loads in the login screen.
[08:35] <carnau> It does in Ambiance.
[08:35] <ochosi> yes, i haven't added any theming to unity-greeter
[08:35] <ochosi> if you're willing to test it, i could give it a try
[08:35] <ochosi> (but i don't think it's essential)
[08:36] <carnau> quite busy these days, maybe next week?
[08:36] <ochosi> sure, no rush
[08:37] <carnau> :D
[11:04] <ochosi> pleia2: i started working on a blog-post about unity support in greybird, feel free to have a peek (on xubuntu.org)
[12:32] <carnau> Is there any way to restrict some folders of being scanned by the dash?
[12:32] <ochosi> carnau: i think you have to use the zeitgeist activity journal (or what it's called)
[12:33] <carnau> ok, I'll take a look. thanks :D
[12:34] <carnau> Augh, it's too easy. There is an app for that, Privacy.
[13:55] <Pjotr> Hello, I wish to congratulate all Xubuntu developers with the fine 12.04 edition! Best Xubuntu yet, and the new artwork is clean and attractive.
[13:56] <astraljava> Yep, I concur. The whole bunch did a marvellous job.
[14:00] <Pjotr> Xubuntu is going professional in The Netherlands as well: a mental health centre with 350 employees has switched to Xubuntu. See this news item: http://virtualizationworld365.info/news_full.php?id=21703
[14:00] <ochosi> wow cool
[14:00] <ochosi> and thanks for the kudos :)
[14:01] <Pjotr> key quote: 'They are now able to access an easy-to-use Xubuntu desktop and all their critical business programs, including email and an open-source equivalent to Microsoft Office.'
[14:03] <Pjotr> With an LTS Xubuntu like 12.04, I expect more businesses to follow suit. Businesses love long term support. :-)
[14:03] <astraljava> That is too true.
[20:53] <astraljava> Ooh man, amd64 images could really need some love. Will probably take until tomorrow evening before I have a chance.
[21:14] <astraljava> Hopefully some activity shows up. No one from the proposed members of the Xubuntu Testers team has come forward by adding info on the page requested, so I didn't add anyone thus far.
[21:15] <pleia2> astraljava: I'll do what I can tonight
[21:15] <astraljava> Gotta get some sleep now, catch ya tomor*... later today. :)
[21:15] <astraljava> pleia2: Oh that'd be wonderful, thank you!
[21:15] <pleia2> (and tomorrow night!)
[21:33] <scott-work> astraljava: i can download the 64bit xubuntu iso and test it this evening if this is still required
[21:35] <astraljava> scott-work: Yes, please. No results have been submitted for amd64 images thus far. :-/
[21:37] <scott-work> how many tests are there?  i typically haven't done encrypted before
[21:38] <scott-work> oh, it's alternative as well, and three tests per
[21:38] <scott-work> i don't know that i'll get all those done
[21:39] <scott-work> i can commit to getting three of the tests done tonight but that will be probably it though
[21:39] <astraljava> Anything helps. I will do some about 20-22 hours from now, but I won't have time to do them all in time.
[21:40] <astraljava> Right, really should sleep now. First customer gig in 8 hours. :)
[21:40] <Unit193> Well, any 32 at all?
[21:40] <scott-work> astraljava: good luck!  and defintely get some sleep :)
[21:41] <scott-work> Unit193: it looks like at the 32bit test are complete
[21:41] <Unit193> Yep, that's what it was when I finished, all but wubi.
[21:51] <knome> scott-work, which tests are you going to run?
[21:53] <knome> scott-work, want to take alternate or desktop?
[21:53] <knome> scott-work, i have about half of desktop, if you haven't started downloading yet, so i could do those except the wubi one
[21:54] <knome> i'll be right back
[21:54] <scott-work> knome: i have not started downloading yet
[21:54] <scott-work> knome: i'll do the alternative then
[21:54] <knome> scott-work, ok, thanks a lot
[21:55] <scott-work> knome: i'm glad to give _something_ back to xubuntu ;)
[21:55] <knome> heh
[21:56] <ochosi> knome: heyo
[21:56] <knome> hey ochosi 
[21:56] <knome> ochosi, you can run a test? :)
[21:56] <ochosi> just finished my first fitpc3 test (with mpd and beamer attached)
[21:57] <knome> :)
[21:57] <knome> willing to do a *xubuntu* test? ;)
[21:57] <ochosi> next on my agenda is taking a few screenshots for the xfce tour...
[21:57] <knome> hurrr
[21:57] <ochosi> i've been postponing that since friday evening...
[21:57] <knome> heh
[21:58] <ochosi> also
[21:58]  * knome 's stomach is not feeling so well after too much naga jolokia, so...
[21:58] <ochosi> would you mind adding me to the -web team so that i can add the greybird/unity screenshots?
[21:58] <knome> i can do that
[21:58] <knome> i imagine we will have to create a team for the web translators too
[21:58] <ochosi> mhm
[21:59] <knome> added
[21:59] <ochosi> i mean for now i can also send you the screenshots carnau made for us, but...
[21:59] <knome> well done already :P
[21:59] <ochosi> ah, thanks :)
[21:59] <ochosi> oh and please give the (short) article a quick read
[21:59] <ochosi> i don't want it to be too long anyway
[21:59] <ochosi> but i wrote it in a hurry
[21:59] <ochosi> (not even sure anymore what i wrote :p)
[21:59] <knome> err
[22:00] <knome> well, can it wait until tomorrow?
[22:00] <knome> it's 1am and i don't think my proof-reading skills are at their best
[22:00] <ochosi> yeah, no worries
[22:00] <ochosi> the draft is there
[22:00] <knome> ok, i'll try to remember that tomorrow
[22:01] <ochosi> but about the testing
[22:01] <knome> yeah?
[22:01] <ochosi> i just made a livestick with today's amd64 desktop image
[22:01] <knome> ok
[22:01] <ochosi> wanted to test it on a friend's macbook air
[22:01] <knome> but?
[22:01] <ochosi> everything worked ootb btw
[22:01] <knome> k...
[22:01] <knome> can you maybe file the results then?
[22:02] <knome> also, was it entire disk?
[22:02] <ochosi> i didn't install, i just booted the livestick :)
[22:02] <knome> awwh
[22:02] <knome> so live session
[22:02] <ochosi> she wasn't ready to leave osx just yet
[22:02] <knome> or...
[22:02] <knome> bleh, okay, i'll go for the entire disk installation then
[22:02] <ochosi> theoretically i can do an install on my spare testing-partition
[22:02] <knome> bug #924909
[22:02] <knome> yes, that
[22:03] <ochosi> but i can't promise i'll make it tonight
[22:03] <knome> ok, np
[22:03] <knome> i can leave you one testcase ;)
[22:04] <knome> brb
[22:04] <ochosi> btw, that ubiquity bug is an xfwm-compositing bug
[22:04] <ochosi> if we can switch off compositing for ubiquity then things would most likely be fine (no artifacts)
[22:04] <ochosi> i dunno why the window doesn't repaint though
[22:09] <knome> ochosi, can you add that as comment in the bug?
[22:10] <ochosi> i can, but it's more my experience that tells me that, no evidence to back it up
[22:10] <knome> well, just add it anyway
[22:10] <ochosi> mkay
[22:10] <ochosi> we could ask olivier, but it's more likely it could/should be fixed in ubiquity-dm
[22:11] <knome> yes, i think it's an ubiquity thing too
[22:12] <ochosi> comment added
[22:12] <knome> thanks
[22:12] <ochosi> np
[22:13] <knome> huh, there's some scrollbars on the slideshow
[22:13] <ochosi> that can't be good
[22:13] <knome> no, and it's jsut stupid anyway
[22:13] <ochosi> what's your res?
[22:13] <knome> i think 800x600
[22:13] <ochosi> oh wow
[22:13] <knome> the default vbox
[22:13] <ochosi> that's pretty low
[22:13] <knome> or whatever taht is
[22:13] <knome> *that
[22:14] <knome> it seems to be fixed once the slideshow progresses automatically
[22:14] <knome> don't ask me.
[22:14] <knome> DAMN.
[22:14] <ochosi> right, well that sounds minor
[22:14] <knome> yeah, it is
[22:14] <knome> you know, that burger was REALLY hot.
[22:14] <ochosi> heh
[22:15]  * knome is suffering
[22:15] <knome> inside out
[22:15] <ochosi> and you'll be suffering again tomorrow? :)
[22:15] <knome> i mean literally, urinating hurt
[22:15] <ochosi> ouch
[22:15] <ochosi> doesn't sound very healthy to me
[22:15] <knome> fortunately no more
[22:15] <knome> well, probably isn't too healthy.
[22:18] <knome> i wonder what "session" the ubiquity installer is running
[22:18] <knome> or where does it get it's settings
[22:18] <knome> it would be too easy to just disable compositing there
[22:18] <knome> if that was trivial
[22:18] <ochosi> must be the default settings, otherwise compositing wouldn't be on
[22:18] <ochosi> yes, that's why i suggested that
[22:18] <knome> default settings == xubuntu session?
[22:18] <knome> or something else
[22:18] <ochosi> yes, i'd assume
[22:18] <knome> then bleh :)
[22:19] <ochosi> i dunno whether ubiquity can be told to pass on parameters
[22:19] <ochosi> or inherit all settings from xubuntu-session but change one
[22:20] <ochosi> better ask some ubiquity devs :)
[22:20] <knome> do you know who those are?
[22:20] <ochosi> nope
[22:20] <knome> heh, k
[22:20] <knome> i think stgraber then... ;)
[22:20] <ochosi> never did anything with ubiquity apart from the slideshows we did
[22:20] <ochosi> yeah, starting with people you know is always good
[22:24] <knome> ochosi, the indicator area icons are supposed to resize or not?
[22:24] <knome> Click on Panel
[22:24] <knome> Move the slider at Appearance and notice the changes in the panel. The icons should grow and shrink about the same. Text should remain readable. 
[22:24] <knome> that's one of the most confusing sections of instructions i've ever read.
[22:25] <ochosi> ?
[22:25] <ochosi> "Move the slider at Appearance and notice the changes in the panel." ?
[22:26] <ochosi> panel > panel preferences > appearancetab > ?
[22:26] <ochosi> or just change the size of the panel?
[22:26] <knome> i don't know.
[22:26] <knome> maybe.
[22:26] <knome> i don't know
[22:26] <knome> that's VERY confusing.
[22:26] <knome> anyway
[22:26] <knome> lawl at spellcheck
[22:26] <ochosi> the size of the indicators and trayicons luckily doesn't change anymore
[22:26] <ochosi> they stay the same at 22px
[22:26] <knome> i purposedly misspelled -> "spellchekcing"
[22:26] <ochosi> therefore sharp
[22:26] <knome> i'm proposed:
[22:27] <knome> spellbinding
[22:27] <knome> sepulchering
[22:27] <knome> shellackin
[22:27] <knome> +g
[22:27] <knome> misspelling
[22:27] <knome> spelunking
[22:27] <knome> splashiness
[22:27] <ochosi> i don't even know what shellacking is
[22:27] <ochosi> hah
[22:27] <knome> WHAT?
[22:27] <ochosi> great :)
[22:27] <knome> no "spellchecking" ?
[22:28] <knome> oh right, now that i type "spellchecking" to the "change to" field, it is wise enought to propose me "spell checking"
[22:28] <knome> :P
[22:28] <ochosi> heh
[22:29] <knome> yay, the terminal help actually opens!
[22:30] <knome> Note login sound, if equipped with appropriate hardware. 
[22:30] <knome> wait? what login sound...
[22:30] <ochosi> =)
[22:30]  * knome thinks somebody should have actually READ the test cases.
[22:33] <Unit193> Read?
[22:33] <knome> Unit193, that's the thing bots apparently can't do very well
[22:33] <Unit193> And knome, I said the same thing about a "Login Sound"
[22:33] <Unit193> Parser error, try again.
[22:34]  * ochosi hopes that xubuntu will _never_ have a login sound by default
[22:35] <knome> yeah, not one of my main goals either...
[22:46]  * knome puts on some testing music
[22:47] <knome> hello GridCube 
[22:47] <GridCube> hello knome 
[22:47] <GridCube> :)
[22:47] <knome> you can do an amd64 test? :]
[22:48] <GridCube> :( i only have i386 capable machines
[22:48] <knome> oh bleh.
[22:48] <GridCube> the amd64 one i have has the i386 flavor on it
[22:49] <GridCube> i could, at the risk of being killed by my brother, do a hardware install of amd64 on hour main machine
[22:49] <GridCube> but not till tomorrow
[22:49] <GridCube> :/ so not very helpful
[22:49] <knome> heh
[22:50] <knome> don't risk your life
[22:50] <GridCube> its that thats our main machine that he uses for works and he needs it to be working at any moment
[22:50] <knome> ochosi, now again, with the same image, with same vbox instance and everything, no scrollbars for slideshow :]
[22:51] <knome> well, i can assure you amd64 really works well
[22:51] <knome> but please do upgrade it only when you have some time to fix it too ;)
[22:51] <ochosi> knome: you're sure you didn't resize the vbox window a teeny-weeny bit?
[22:51] <knome> ochosi, yeah.
[22:51] <knome> ochosi, 100% sure.
[22:51] <ochosi> hmkay
[22:51] <knome> that wouldn't matter anyway
[22:51] <ochosi> well, that is strange news then :)
[22:51] <knome> since i'm on the live session
[22:52] <knome> i mean, the window fits really fine to the space i have for vbox
[22:52] <knome> :)
[22:52] <ochosi> so amd64 doesn't need much more testing?
[22:52] <knome> ochosi, well, i'm on my test 3/4, but alt is not done at all
[22:53] <knome> ochosi, if you could do even one alt test, it would help ScottL :)
[22:55] <ochosi> definitely can't test alt today/tonight...
[22:55] <knome> awwh
[22:55] <knome> what about desktop then? ;)
[22:55] <ochosi> i thought that doesn't help much and is tested well enough?
[22:55] <ochosi> you know i'm really tired already...
[22:55] <knome> you know i'm tired too? ;)
[22:55] <ochosi> no, you're still _on fire_ ;)
[22:56] <knome> hah
[22:56] <knome> that
[22:56] <knome> well, leave it for tomorrow then
[22:56] <knome> i'll see how far i can go
[22:59] <knome> it feels stupid, but i'm linking the same bug to all of my reports
[22:59] <knome> :P
[23:00] <ochosi> :)
[23:00] <ochosi> i'm off for tonight
[23:01] <knome> okay, good night and see you later
[23:01] <ochosi> nighty!
[23:01] <knome> again, no scrollbars...
[23:11] <knome> all amd64 desktop tests done except wubi
[23:24] <GridCube> welp almost no wubi tests are ever done
[23:34] <knome> downloading the alternate image.
[23:34] <knome> bleh, problems with the shell.
[23:35] <knome> GridCube, yeah. we need to think what to do with xubuntu+wubi.
[23:58] <knome> ScottL, ochosi: looks like there is no more amd64 tests to be done after i finish this and another tester the other not yet tested one.