[00:36] <Roey> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1947679&page=2  <-- the wacom intuos5-supporting patches should be in Kubuntu Oneric by now, right?? yet I do not see that
[00:36] <Roey> Riddell:  hola
[00:36] <Roey> sweetofserbia:  nice nick :)
[00:36] <Vuth> hi
[00:36] <Vuth> serbia?? the cold part of russia :P
[00:37] <sweetofserbia> What?
[00:38] <sweetofserbia> Serbia is ountry, not the part of Russia
[00:39] <Hamra> serbia != siberia
[00:42] <sweetofserbia> No, Serbia is Serbia
[00:42] <sweetofserbia> http://maps.google.rs/maps?client=ubuntu&channel=cs&q=srbija&um=1&ie=UTF-8&hl=sr&sa=N&tab=wl
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[00:43] <sweetofserbia> http://maps.google.rs/maps?client=ubuntu&channel=cs&q=srbija&um=1&ie=UTF-8&hl=sr&sa=N&tab=wl
[00:44] <Hamra> yes, i'm aware :)
[00:45] <sweetofserbia> Ok
[00:47] <Hamra> anyone here used calligra? and by used i mean *used*, not "tried it for 10 minutes" :P
[00:52] <Vuth> :)
[01:10] <tridentfish> ubuntulog
[01:10] <tridentfish> hi
[01:30] <Whiskey`Wonka> anyone know how to get power profiles to display the performace profiles like it used to, or where it has been moved to?
[02:00] <FULANO_> hi!!!
[02:01] <FULANO_> HELLO!!
[02:07] <Daskreech> Hi?
[04:25] <sinthetek> for some reason my oneiric netbook won't lock when i close the lid despite appropriate power profile config
[04:26] <sinthetek> i installed and manually ran xscreensaver but that doesn't seem to work
[04:26] <sinthetek> (the screensaver activates but doesn't lock or activate on lid close)
[04:39] <Whiskey`Wonka> sinthetek: there does seam to be issues with the power profiles. i can not get any of the speed govenors to show up so the laptop is locked at full
[04:51] <Belial`> i noticed there's two different ppas for keeping current with kde. the kubuntu ppa and the kubuntu backports ppa. which one is the best to use?
[04:52] <RexHaviK> Belial`, also -beta , backports is my choice
[04:54] <Belial`> is there much of a difference between the two?
[04:54] <Belial`> they're both semi official, correct?
[07:44] <lordievader> Good morning
[09:23] <|Dove|> I have new problems with Kubuntu
[09:23] <|Dove|> i think i'll install Xubuntu...
[09:23] <|Dove|> but Kubuntu is  very pretty :_
[09:24] <lordievader> |Dove|, what kind of problems do you have?
[09:31] <|Dove|> Well
[09:31] <|Dove|> I pressed the shutdown button, the logoff button, and it didn't do nothing
[09:32] <lordievader> Did you disable the powermanager service?
[09:33] <|Dove|> what's that?
[09:33] <|Dove|> i have Ubuntu + Xubuntu + Kubuntu, but I installed the xubunut-desktop and kubuntu-desktop packages
[09:33] <|Dove|> it isn't a clean kubuntu installation
[09:33] <|Dove|> tomorrow (the release of 12.04) i'll install a clean xubuntu
[09:33] <|Dove|> but i love kubuntu...
[09:34] <|Dove|> my system is an Acer Aspire 6930
[09:34] <lordievader> Why not install a fresh 12.04 of kubuntu then?
[09:34] <|Dove|> a Nvidia 9300m GS
[09:34] <|Dove|> because i have this problems
[09:34] <|Dove|> well, and Intel Centrino 2GHz
[09:34] <|Dove|> i think that it'd have to go correctly, no?
[09:34] <|Dove|> with the kwin effects..
[09:35] <lordievader> Yes it should work with kwin effects, but i think/hope that a fresh install of 12.04 should fix this problem.
[09:36] <|Dove|> Okey
[09:36] <|Dove|> I'll tryi t
[09:36] <|Dove|> as i have /home in a different partition, i'll have no problem
[09:36] <|Dove|> i hope it works
[09:37] <lordievader> It's the same fix I am going to do for my problem, a soundcard that does not work...
[09:38] <|Dove|> but I also like Xubuntu, i'm working with it now
[09:38] <|Dove|> it's too simple, but it's fast
[09:38] <lordievader> You could ofcourse have both.
[09:38] <|Dove|> yes
[09:39] <|Dove|> 12.04 will have plasma too?
[09:39] <lordievader> I guess so (haven't seen much of 12.04 yet though)
[09:42] <|Dove|> oh my god, I hope that they won't do as like gnome - unity
[09:42] <|Dove|> i love this KDE, i don't want to change it
[09:43] <lordievader> |Dove|,  it has KDE 4.8 I believe and that has still plasma, would be strange if they threw it out...
[09:51] <|Dove|> Well
[09:51] <|Dove|> lordievader: i changed to KDE now
[09:51] <|Dove|> it goes faster at the moment
[09:52] <|Dove|> i had a problem with firefox, when i opened it, all went slowly
[09:52] <|Dove|> but in kde and xfce, so I installed chrome
[09:52] <|Dove|> with LibreOffice it happens the same...
[09:52] <|Dove|> but now kubuntu looks fine :)
[09:52] <lordievader> Ok good!
[09:53] <|Dove|> the problem is that i have a caos in the menu, with the kde apps, xfce apps, gnome apps...
[09:53] <|Dove|> i used the menu cleaner script, but there's a caos too xD
[09:54] <lordievader> You can edit the menu, rightclick the kicker and say edit menu
[09:54] <|Dove|> now i just have to decide, xubuntu or kubuntu :_
[09:54] <|Dove|> I see
[09:54] <|Dove|> oh, i didn't know that! t hanks
[09:54] <lordievader> That's the fun about linux you dont have to decide, you can have both :P
[09:54] <|Dove|> yes, i think i'll install kubuntu *clean*
[09:54] <|Dove|> because I love the KDE apps
[09:55] <|Dove|> and then i'll install xubuntu-desktop, because Xubuntu haven't got a lot of apps as Kubuntu or Ubuntu
[09:55] <|Dove|> Thankyous :)
[09:55] <|Dove|> And you have problems with Firefox and LibreOffice?
[09:55] <|Dove|> *have you goy
[09:55] <|Dove|> *got
[09:56] <lordievader> I don't use libreoffice much.. but I don't have any problems with FF
[09:57] <|Dove|> oh, now FF goes fine
[09:58] <|Dove|> but i prefer Chrome
[09:58] <|Dove|> i have my windows bookmarks synched
[09:59] <lordievader> |Dove|, FF now also supports syncing, and you can also use Chromium, an open-source variant of chome, and has better support for the theming of kde.
[10:00] <|Dove|> uhm
[10:00] <|Dove|> and will chromium synch with my windows chrome?
[10:00] <lordievader> Yes
[10:01] <|Dove|> I see
[10:01] <|Dove|> Another question, is the source code of the bash shell avaliable?
[10:01] <|Dove|> or the bourne
[10:02] <lordievader> Probably, http://tiswww.case.edu/php/chet/bash/bashtop.html
[10:02] <|Dove|> and rekonq is good?
[10:03] <lordievader> With webbrowsers it is much dependent on personal preference, I don't use it btw.
[10:03] <|Dove|> look: http://www.debianadmin.com/kubuntu-12-04-precise-pangolin-lts-beta-2-screenshots-gallery.html
[10:05] <|Dove|> it's like the actually KDE, but "grayie"
[10:05] <|Dove|> xD
[10:05] <lordievader> Looks a lot like what I already have :P, let's just hope my sound card would work again.
[10:06] <|Dove|> and is possible to change the KDE typoghraphy?
[10:06] <|Dove|> or the Chrome font, idk
[10:07] <|Dove|> because the chrome font at KDE is very different that the Chrome font at XFCE
[10:07] <lordievader> What do you mean exactly? The menu's?
[10:08] <|Dove|> http://www.zimagez.com/zimage/capturadepantalla-250412-120727.php
[10:08] <|Dove|> look
[10:09] <|Dove|> this orange things are from KDE, I supose that it's an error of the screenshot taker
[10:09] <|Dove|> because i don't see that xD
[10:10] <lordievader> But what do you want to change?
[10:10] <|Dove|> look at the markups font
[10:10] <|Dove|> this font...
[10:10] <|Dove|> but it doesn't matter
[10:11] <lordievader> Look in the preferences.
[10:11] <lordievader> Of chrome
[10:12] <|Dove|> maybe installing another theme
[10:13] <lordievader> Hey I gotta go, gotta do some groceries shopping, cya/
[10:36] <sidharth> hello, i was trying to resize my partition using kubuntu`s partition manager, but in the process partition maager crashed, and now i have lost all the data. Please someone help me resuce my data
[10:43] <mydogsnameisrudy> sidharth: will your system boot up ?
[10:43] <sidharth> yes
[10:43] <sidharth> i was using dual boot windows7 + kubuntu 11.10
[10:43] <mydogsnameisrudy> ok
[10:43] <sidharth> now i have lost the win7 and a partition
[10:44] <sidharth> win7 is not inportant
[10:44] <sidharth> but the partition is and was in ntfs format
[10:44] <mydogsnameisrudy> ok hmmm im not sure so hang out a bit for more help and dont panic ;)
[10:44] <sidharth> thanks
[10:45] <mydogsnameisrudy> just keep asking someone will help
[10:45] <mydogsnameisrudy> ill so some looking too
[10:45] <sidharth> so should i repost the querry?
[10:46] <mydogsnameisrudy> if more people come on sure
[10:48] <sidharth> hello everyone, i was trying to resize my partition using kubuntu`s partition manager, but it crashed in between the process and now i have lost all of my data, Sumone please guide me how i can recover the data. The partition was in ntfs format.
[10:52] <mydogsnameisrudy> sidharth:  seems to be alot of ways to recover partitions i was googling but i have not used any of them so dont feel i can tell you to use one. or the other..
[10:53] <mydogsnameisrudy> we need someone who has done this to come on
[10:54] <sidharth> mydogsnameisrudy:  hmm, i also tried google at the first place but most of the solutions were for windows os, but i am using Kubuntu for now as i have lost my win partition too.
[10:54] <mydogsnameisrudy> you might ask on #ubuntu its more active right now
[10:55] <sidharth> ok
[11:14] <mydogsnameisrudy> sinthetek:  i  see there not helping much over on #ubuntu
[11:17] <mydogsnameisrudy> take a look at testdisk   http://www.cgsecurity.org/wiki/TestDisk_Step_By_Step
[11:17] <BluesKaj> Hey all
[11:17] <mydogsnameisrudy> BluesKaj:  morning
[11:17] <BluesKaj> 'morning mydogsnameisrudy
[11:18] <mydogsnameisrudy> have you ever recoverd lost partition before
[11:18] <mydogsnameisrudy> hmmm nm seems sidharth has left
[11:20] <BluesKaj> I haven't but my son managed to off a windows partition that had become inaccessible . He used ubuntu live cd to transfer the data to an external drive
[11:20] <mydogsnameisrudy> i was looking at testdisk for him but i have never used it
[11:21] <BluesKaj> he then reinstalled windows and copied the data back
[11:21] <georgelappies> will there be any large updates yet to come between now and release?
[11:25] <BluesKaj> no
[11:26] <BluesKaj> everything is frozen 'til tomorrow , georgelappies , unless you haven't updated /upgraded since the weekend
[11:34] <torbjorn> im trying to add a static ipv6 route, but the networking service seems stuck... I keep getting "networking stop/waiting" when I try to start it
[11:35] <torbjorn> and the graphical network config utility keeps crashing whenever i touch the interfaces file or the networking service it seems
[11:49] <BluesKaj> torbjorn, if you're using a router make sure IPv6 is enabled
[12:08] <Torch> mydogsnameisrudy: testdisk is what i would have recommended too
[12:23] <guyvdb_> I have recently installed 64bit Kubuntu 11.10. I cannot get flash working in either google chrome, chromium or firefox. Any pointers
[12:24] <Riddell> guyvdb_: install flashplugin-installer
[12:24] <guyvdb_> I have tried that... will try again
[12:24]  * mydogsnameisrudy hates to recommend something he has not tryed himself
[12:25] <guyvdb_> also used fixefox plugin Flash-Aid to try install both 32 bit and beta 64bit versions
[12:27] <guyvdb_> I have flash-player-properties executable that lauches from the command line. Where is the flash so stored?
[12:28] <BluesKaj> guyvdb_, place libflashplayer.so in /usr/lib/mozilla/plugins
[12:30] <guyvdb_> k let me try
[13:53] <|Dove|> Can somebody say me what are the recomended requirements for running kde + effects correctly?
[13:55] <lordievader> |Dove|, wikipedia has the following to say: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kubuntu#System_requirements
[13:55] <lordievader> Do you have graphics drivers installed?
[13:55] <szal> 3D hardware acceleration-enabled graphics card + driver (for NVidia, everything from GeForce 6 series on; for ATi, everything that runs on the proprietary fglrx driver)
[13:56] <BluesKaj> |Dove|, make sure you have the recommended graphics driver installed , kmenu>apps>system>additional drivers , if any listed
[13:56] <|Dove|> yes
[13:57] <|Dove|> there are 4 drivers listed, and I have one of those installed
[13:57] <|Dove|> i just can have one of those
[13:57] <BluesKaj> is the recommended one installed ?
[13:57] <|Dove|> oh, y haven't the Recommended
[13:57] <|Dove|> wait, i'll install it
[13:57] <BluesKaj> ok good
[13:57] <|Dove|> BluesKaj: it says me that i'm not authed to run this command
[13:58] <|Dove|> :_
[13:59] <|Dove|> hi?
[13:59] <BluesKaj> |Dove|, it din't ask for your password ?
[14:00] <|Dove|> no
[14:01] <|Dove|> :S
[14:01] <BluesKaj> have you updated/upgraded since installing kubuntu?
[14:02] <|Dove|> i have installed Ubuntu + kubuntu-desktop + xubuntu-desktop packages
[14:02] <|Dove|> tomorrow i'll install a clean Kubuntu
[14:04] <|Dove|> but i don't know why i can't install the driver
[14:21] <BluesKaj> |Dove|, switch to a tty (ctrl-alt-f2), log in, then type "jockey-text -a" and press enter
[14:28] <sc077> Who is up for a challange?
[14:29] <BluesKaj> depends what it is ...I don't dive into waters until I know the depth
[14:29] <mydogsnameisrudy> we all love them
[14:29] <sc077> I'm running the kubuntu 12.04 beta on a hardware raid 1 SSD with ext4 and trim support.
[14:29] <sc077> I've got a FILE leak
[14:30] <sc077> you know, like a memory leak, but on the hard drive
[14:30] <ikonia> sc077: file leak ? what
[14:30] <ikonia> sc077: are you using hardware or software raid ?
[14:30] <sc077> ya, I know right
[14:30] <sc077> hardware raid
[14:30] <ikonia> sc077: so what's the actual problem ?
[14:31] <sc077> actual file usage is ~30 gb, over the course of 3 -4 days the hard drive will use 100% of the space
[14:31] <sc077> File usage remains the same
[14:32] <sc077> I can load up filelight and it will tell me 100% of the space on the drive is in use.
[14:32] <ikonia> sorry what ?
[14:32] <ikonia> you're not making any sense
[14:32] <sc077> and that there are only 30 gb of files on the drive
[14:32] <sc077> I know
[14:33] <ikonia> sc077: please show me the output of the command "df -h" in a pastebin
[14:33] <sc077> /dev/sdb1              99G   34G   61G  36% /
[14:33] <sc077> udev                  5.9G  4.0K  5.9G   1% /dev
[14:33] <sc077> tmpfs                 5.9G  137M  5.8G   3% /tmp
[14:33] <sc077> tmpfs                 2.4G  980K  2.4G   1% /run
[14:33] <sc077> none                  5.0M     0  5.0M   0% /run/lock
[14:33] <sc077> none                  5.9G   84K  5.9G   1% /run/shm
[14:33] <FloodBotK1> sc077: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[14:34] <ikonia> or flood the channel instead
[14:34] <sc077> I just rebooted, so right now it is ok
[14:34] <mydogsnameisrudy> ;)
[14:34] <BluesKaj> too late but
[14:34] <BluesKaj> !pastebin
[14:34] <ikonia> sc077: which file system is filling up ?
[14:36] <sc077> /dev/sdb1 or /
[14:37] <ikonia> sc077: how are you determaining it's full
[14:37] <sc077> df -h
[14:37] <sc077> error messages from other apps
[14:37] <ikonia> sc077: is it going to %100 full
[14:37] <sc077> system thinks it is full, but it isn't
[14:38] <sc077> reboot clears the error
[14:38] <ikonia> is it going to %100
[14:38] <sc077> yes
[14:38] <ikonia> when it next goes to %100 to "touch /test" see if it will allow that to happen
[14:40] <sc077> letting it get that full will take a few days... and really plays havok with the system
[14:40] <ikonia> I can imagine
[15:32] <Promethes> hi, how to upgrade to ubuntu 12.04 today? i tried sudo do-release-upgrade -f kde -d without any success
[15:33] <BluesKaj> sudo do-release-upgrade -d
[15:34] <BluesKaj> Promethes, make sure you update/upgrade in 11.10 first tho
[15:34] <Kalidarn> is 12.04 even out  yet
[15:34] <BluesKaj> the beta is
[15:34] <Kalidarn> oh why bother then it comes out later today
[15:34] <Kalidarn> might as well update to final
[15:35] <BluesKaj> official release is tomorrow
[15:35] <Kalidarn> according to the release schedule it's due on the 26th, unless it gets delayed
[15:35] <Kalidarn> Wed Apr 25 15:35:23 UTC 2012 so yeah, tomorrow
[15:35] <BluesKaj> Kalidarn, it's firm , the release is the 26th
[15:35] <Kalidarn> ah okay
[15:36] <Promethes> BluesKaj: i have 11.10, tried also sudo do-release-upgrade -d with the same effects: nothing
[15:37] <BluesKaj> Promethes, make sure your upgrade configuration in upgrade manager is set to normal
[15:39] <Promethes> BluesKaj: is normal
[15:46] <BluesKaj> Promethes, https://help.ubuntu.com/community/PreciseUpgrades/Kubuntu
[15:49] <Promethes> BluesKaj: tried this too, but after point 2 (admin password) installer crashes with error "UnicodeEncodeError: ..."
[15:51] <Promethes> BluesKaj: i just wonder if this is issue only with upgrading from 11.10 to 12.04 beta. If not, then i will not be able to upgrade to 12.04 when it will be released
[15:56] <sidharth> hello everyone, i was trying to resize my partition using kubuntu`s partition manager, but it crashed in between the process and now i have lost all of my data, Sumone please guide me how i can recover the data. The partition was in ntfs format.
[15:56] <mydogsnameisrudy> welcome back sidharth  take a look at testdisk
[15:56] <sidharth> test disk?
[15:57] <mydogsnameisrudy> hold i get a link
[15:57] <BluesKaj> Promethes, we need a backtrace , it's probly a python bug
[15:58] <mydogsnameisrudy> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jhWbSM-630E    sidharth
[16:01] <Promethes> BluesKaj: it could be related to locale, when running command " LC_ALL=en_US.UTF-8 kubuntu-devel-release-upgrade " - UnicodeEncodeError does not appear
[16:01] <BluesKaj> Promethes, ok , is that command working then ?
[16:01] <Promethes> yes
[16:02] <sidharth> mydogsnameisrudy: thanks man, i think this is the ultimate solution to my problem, will check this out right away
[16:02] <Promethes> BluesKaj: but gives message: Checking for a new ubuntu release, and then: No new release found. And thats all
[16:02] <mydogsnameisrudy> ok good luck with it
[16:03] <BluesKaj> Promethes, try  " LC_ALL=en_US.UTF-8 kubuntu-devel-release-upgrade -d " ..it's worth a shot
[16:04] <Promethes> BluesKaj: http://paste.kde.org/463574/ there is this error when using my locale (polish)
[16:05] <Promethes> BluesKaj: tried, nothing changed, no release
[16:06] <BluesKaj> Promethes, ok
[16:06] <ubuntu__> helo all
[16:08] <BluesKaj> Promethes, it probably means you don't have a locale properly set , e.g. running inside a chroot
[16:09] <BluesKaj> Promethes, I'm getting this advice elsewhere
[16:10] <Promethes> BluesKaj: i;ve checked my locale, all vars are set to pl_PL.UTF-8 except LANGUAGE and LC_ALL, those two are empty
[16:10] <BluesKaj> Promethes, do you have muon installed , if so remove it and update manager , and try again
[16:12] <Promethes> BluesKaj: ok
[16:20] <Promethes> BluesKaj: i removed muon and update-manager-kde, i cannot remove update-manager-core because this package contains do-release-upgrade script. Anyway, after muon removal i tried do-release-upgrade -d without any success
[16:29] <sidharth> mydogsnameisrudy: there is one big big problem with this man, it renames all the files...:( If possible is there nething like easeus for linux?
[16:31] <tsimpson> Promethes: you should probably report that in #kubuntu-devel so the developers can see what's going on
[16:33] <mydogsnameisrudy> renames them? ok ill look more
[16:38] <mydogsnameisrudy> testdisk site has a forum you can look in might be a way to use it there
[16:42] <mydogsnameisrudy> http://forum.cgsecurity.org/phpBB3/partition-recovery-f5.html?sid=3ce58b64c3d675080247489fea1fd1b9  sidharth
[16:52] <Benutzer> moin
[16:57] <BluesKaj> Promethes, I've had muon update manager removed for a while and do release worked here .
[17:01] <Promethes> BluesKaj: yes, because there is a bug in muon, in sources dialog, i've set option 'Show new distribution releases: to never", and in /etc/update-manager/release-upgrades is now set normal
[17:02] <Promethes> BluesKaj: before in muon setting was normal but in /etc/update-manager/release-upgrades really it was lts - and that was stopping the upgrade
[17:18] <hello_pluto> Hello. I'm trying to build Digikam 2.5 on Kubuntu 64-bit. I type make and end up getting this error:
[17:18] <hello_pluto> /path/to/build/core/libs/dimg/loaders/pgfloader.cpp:70:22: fatal error: PGFimage.h: No such file or directory
[17:18] <hello_pluto> Any ideas?  Thanks.
[17:19] <BluesKaj> Promethes, ok good to know , so you're upgrading to 12,04 now ?
[17:20] <Promethes> BluesKaj: yes
[18:02] <junior> alou
[18:03] <junior> boa tarde galera
[18:04] <BluesKaj> !pt | jussi
[18:05] <BluesKaj> sorry jussi__ , I'm not fast enough on the tab key
[18:31] <sidharth> hello vividh
[18:49] <hello_pluto> Hello. I'm trying to build Digikam 2.5 on Kubuntu 64-bit. I type make and end up getting this error:
[18:49] <hello_pluto> /path/to/build/core/libs/dimg/loaders/pgfloader.cpp:70:22: fatal error: PGFimage.h: No such file or directory
[18:50] <hello_pluto> I found that I can downlaod the pgflib package from sourceforge.  I then try to install it, but it still doesnt' install PGFImage.h (even though it's in the package).
[18:50] <ybit> any idea why the get hot new stuff browser thingy doesn't find the icon tasks widget?
[18:54] <ybit> or why it can't find the takeoff launcher?
[22:29] <phoenix_firebrd> hello everyone
[22:35] <apOcalpyse> is 12.04 still in progress for release tomorrow?
[22:35] <phoenix_firebrd> apOcalpyse: it will be released at 21 hrs
[22:36] <apOcalpyse> thanks, i wasnt sure if there was any disruptions due to recent events
[22:38] <phoenix_firebrd> apOcalpyse: sorry, i was not aware of the recent events you refer
[22:39] <phoenix_firebrd> apOcalpyse: http://iso.qa.ubuntu.com/qatracker/milestones/216/builds
[22:40] <apOcalpyse> didnt know if canonical dropping support was going to disrupt things
[22:40] <apOcalpyse> thanks
[22:40] <phoenix_firebrd> apOcalpyse: yw
[23:22] <tbruff13> can someone help me I would like to upgrade my 11.10 Kubuntu installation to 12.04 over the internet can i do this
[23:22] <tbruff13> at this moment
[23:22] <tbruff13> and if so how?
[23:25] <Riddell> tbruff13: 12.04 has not been released
[23:25] <tbruff13> Riddell, yes I know this information
[23:25] <tbruff13> I would like to upgrade to the beta
[23:25] <Riddell> run kubuntu-devel-release-upgrade
[23:26] <tbruff13> Riddell,
[23:26] <tbruff13> ok
[23:26] <tbruff13> i have everything backed up just in case
[23:27] <tbruff13> Riddell, another question if you do not mind
[23:27] <tbruff13> When i select a mirror using the select best mirror option Will the mirror that it chooses be up to date
[23:28] <Riddell> archive mirrors generally are
[23:28] <Riddell> but they're not controlled by canonical or ubuntu so no guarantee
[23:28] <phoenix_firebrd> Riddell: are you jonathan riddell ?
[23:29] <Sentynel> Riddell: any idea why kubuntu-devel-release-upgrade informs me there's no new release found? I am on 11.10
[23:29] <Sentynel> I'm not massively fussed about upgrading early, I'm just curious
[23:29] <Riddell> phoenix_firebrd: no autographs please
[23:29] <Riddell> Sentynel: I'm afraid not
[23:29] <phoenix_firebrd> Riddell: he he. Is the logo issue settled?
[23:30] <Riddell> phoenix_firebrd: nope
[23:31] <phoenix_firebrd> Riddell: it would be nice to have the current logo as it is
[23:32] <tbruff13> Riddell, I have another question for you I just did my senior project convincing my school to move to Kubuntu and I was told by Canonical that I would still be supported for the school board
[23:34] <tbruff13> that is weird mine found an update
[23:40] <tbruff13> Riddell, are you there
[23:43] <Riddell> sort of
[23:43] <Riddell> kindae busy with release prep
[23:44] <Riddell> tbruff13: I don't follow your question
[23:45] <tbruff13> Riddell, I did a Senior Project on Kubuntu in Schools and My School District is considering switching our Windows computers to Kubuntu I was told by Canonical that support for Kubuntu would continue to exist is this true?
[23:48] <Riddell> tbruff13: interesting
[23:48] <Riddell> tbruff13: so someone in canonical said they would still offer commerical support?
[23:48] <Riddell> or just a vaugue assurance that someone would offer something supporting?
[23:48] <tbruff13> Riddell, I have that someone's name, but I do not feel confortable giving it out
[23:49] <tbruff13> Riddell, no we discussed prices and everything
[23:49] <Riddell> tbruff13: when was this?
[23:50] <tbruff13> This was 2 or three months ago
[23:50] <Riddell> tbruff13: oh it's all changed
[23:50] <tbruff13> Riddell, i have been keeping up with him on a daily basis
[23:51] <tbruff13> to see if the terms changed they have not
[23:51] <tbruff13> Riddell, he says and I quote "anything in the main repository is supported", Issues with KDE itself may not be supported depending on the issue
[23:51] <Riddell> tbruff13: interesting, that hasn't been true for years
[23:52] <Riddell> and I expect KDE to move to universe next release
[23:52] <Riddell> tbruff13: anyway I expect to announce a new support partner for Kubuntu sometime in May
[23:53] <tbruff13> Riddell, I need to know if support will still be able to come from Canonical on a case by case basis he says this is the case
[23:54] <Riddell> tbruff13: if you /msg me the name I can discuss it internally with him and my manager
[23:55] <Riddell> tbruff13: I've been told lots of times that canonical isn't supporting kubuntu any more including 12.04LTS (although they only told me this after I made the announcement saying it would be supported)