[03:51] <bossorange> clear
[07:54] <rghvdberg> hi .. just decided to switch from ubuntu to lubuntu :-)
[08:44] <vuongdothanhhuy> me too, I was running Ubuntu on my netbook, but its Unity gets too slow that I have to switch to LXDE environment. :D
[08:46] <gordonjcp> I didn't find unity 2D particularly slow
[08:46] <gordonjcp> memory hungry, but not slow
[08:48] <vuongdothanhhuy> yep, if I run Ubuntu only, without loading my daily working software, it's not too slow. However, when I load in Pidgin, Chrome with 3 tabs, and Netbeans, it just gets slow and slow and...not response for a while ;)
[08:49] <vuongdothanhhuy> it's not the matter of RAM, but the CPU.
[08:49] <vuongdothanhhuy> my Atom is too weak to handle all of them together
[08:54] <gordonjcp> ah, there's your problem, Chrome
[08:54] <gordonjcp> get rid of that bloated thing and install firefox
[08:55] <Unit193> Once you install 12, dump firefox for xxxterm.
[08:55] <half-duplex> i would rather lubuntu had firefox installed by default instead of chrome
[08:55] <Unit193> Chromium.
[08:55] <half-duplex> well yer.......
[08:55] <vuongdothanhhuy> In Windows, Firefox seems to be slower than Chrome. Are there any differences in Ubuntu?
[09:50] <G4MBY> #join #lubuntu-offtopic
[11:05] <akls> is there any reason why chrome is used by default?
[11:11] <head_victim> akls: it was determined the best fit for the aim of Lubuntu
[11:11] <JohnDoe_71Rus> in lubuntu chrome or chromium?
[11:12] <akls> chromium, yes
[11:13] <akls> head_victim, but for me it seems like firefox is using much less memory http://lifehacker.com/5884941/browser-speed-tests-chrome-17-firefox-10-internet-explorer-9-and-opera-1161
[11:13] <akls> though it's slower sometimes
[11:14] <head_victim> akls: decisions on what to include are taken long before a month or two before release.
[11:15] <akls> head_victim, I understand, but it's not something that must be changed as far as possible.
[11:15] <head_victim> akls: I'm not sure what you mean by that.
[11:16] <JohnDoe_71Rus> akls: but this ubutnu 10.04 ;) http://postimage.org/image/5wpeioim3/
[11:17] <JohnDoe_71Rus> 52 tabs
[11:17] <akls> sounds reasonable for 52 tabs
[11:17] <akls> try same with chromium? :)
[11:17] <head_victim> But completely useless for determining what browser to use.
[11:18] <JohnDoe_71Rus> and get too much processes
[11:34] <akls> err...
[11:46] <rabbitear> l is for lushy expensive cpu time
[12:06] <gordonjcp> heh
[12:06] <gordonjcp> so over the past week, in order to actually get a usable system that didn't want me to chew my own feet off
[12:07] <gordonjcp> I've ended up replacing Chromium with Firefox, because Chromium is too memory-hungry and is just too annoying to use with its stupid "this file may harm your computer" nonsense
[12:07] <gordonjcp> I've replaced sylpheed with thunderbird, because sylpheed is too much of a ballache to configure to do smtp over ssl
[12:08] <gordonjcp> and I've replaced lxde with unity because lxde is just too inconvenient and slow
[12:43] <KM0201> gordonjcp: lol, to "inconvenient" ? please explain
[12:43] <KM0201> cuz frankly, all your "reasons" are almost laughable
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[12:46] <gordonjcp> I've just come to prefer the way that Unity works
[12:46] <gordonjcp> I used to like Gnome 2, and LXDE works quite a bit like it
[12:47] <gordonjcp> or at least, it more-or-less fits the same muscle memory
[12:47] <gordonjcp> chromium is comically bad
[12:49] <gordonjcp> although the thing that put me off it is the way you just can't turn off that "this file may harm your computer" message when you want to download a PDF
[14:09] <freedomrun> is there lubuntu daily alternate???
[14:10] <bioterror> yes
[14:10] <freedomrun> please can you give me the link I don`t know why installer is breaking machine + components are tested and work ok
[14:11] <freedomrun> and I need to install it today
[14:16] <bioterror> no dailies for two days
[14:16] <bioterror> freedomrun, 64bit or 32bit?
[14:16] <freedomrun> bioterror: find the one here: http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/lubuntu/daily/current/
[14:17] <freedomrun> found
[14:17] <bioterror> http://cdimages.ubuntu.com/lubuntu/daily/current/
[14:17] <bioterror> yeah
[14:17] <bioterror> :D
[14:17] <freedomrun> 32bit ...not a problem once it is on harddisk :)
[14:19] <freedomrun> is there a log where I could look what went wrong??
[14:19] <freedomrun> whith the installer
[14:40] <kanliot> hi
[14:40] <kanliot> hyperair
[14:40] <kanliot> there is a log
[14:41] <kanliot> was the installer crashing or locking up?
[14:41] <hyperair> i don't know, and i can't because i'm trying to figure out why the f*** lightdm won't log in.
[14:42] <bioterror> :D
[14:42] <kanliot> did you use full disk encryption?
[14:43] <kanliot> the installer finished?
[14:43] <kanliot> did it?
[14:44]  * hyperair has no idea wtf is going on here
[16:20] <rabbitear> http://www.humblebundle.com/   <-- 6 days left
[17:52] <ap03> i needhelp
[17:52] <ap03> i dont have mic volume on skype,  any idea how to fix that
[17:53] <holstein> i would look in alsamixer.. you can consider using pulse, and installing pavucontrol ap03 ...i would double check the hardware, assuming this is a desktop machine
[17:54] <ap03> how do i check what i am using?
[17:55] <ap03> when i got hardware, i dont get displayed any hardware at all
[17:55] <ap03> * to hardware drivers
[17:55] <bioterror> but mic works otherwise?
[17:55] <ap03> yes, it worked on previous version of linux i used a few days ago
[17:55] <gordonjcp> ap03: alsamixer
[17:56] <gordonjcp> and also do "aplay -l" to show you what devices you have
[17:56] <gordonjcp> what sort of mic are you using?
[17:56] <ap03> its inbuilt mic into my laptop
[17:56] <ap03> card 0: Intel [HDA Intel], device 0: ALC268 Analog [ALC268 Analog]
[17:57] <gordonjcp> okay
[17:57] <gordonjcp> alsamixer, then hit "F4" for the record settings
[17:57] <gordonjcp> don't forget that the play and record settings are always different
[17:57] <ap03> ok
[17:58] <ap03> ha
[17:58] <ap03> thanks, it might actually work, it displayed my mic as "muted"
[17:58] <gordonjcp> so you can get the record levels, and pick which input to record *From*
[17:59] <gordonjcp> eh aye
[17:59] <gordonjcp> that's playback though
[17:59] <JohnDoe_71Rus> code.google.com/p/volti/ beter include to lubuntu
[17:59] <gordonjcp> press F4, what have you got now?
[17:59] <ap03> nothing
[17:59] <ap03> when i press it nothing happens, hold on i will try a testcall on skype again
[18:00] <holstein> not necessarily trust the labels in there either.. in alsamixer
[18:00] <holstein> dont*
[18:01] <ap03> i installed gnome alsa mixer
[18:02] <gordonjcp> ap03: okay, run alsamixer, from a terminal
[18:02] <ap03> ok i ran it, should i press f4 now?
[18:02] <gordonjcp> wait
[18:02] <ap03> ok
[18:02] <gordonjcp> it should say on the third line from the top, "View: F3:[Playback]"
[18:02] <gordonjcp> with playback in yellow
[18:03] <gordonjcp> right?
[18:03] <gordonjcp> and along the bottom, Master, Headphone, Speaker etc etc
[18:03] <ap03> yes
[18:03] <gordonjcp> okay, F4
[18:03] <ap03> ok
[18:03] <gordonjcp> now what do you see?
[18:03] <gordonjcp> fewer mixer sliders?
[18:03] <ap03> yes
[18:04] <gordonjcp> maybe says "F4:[Capture]"?
[18:04] <ap03> the last two graphs are gone
[18:04] <ap03> yes
[18:04] <gordonjcp> okay, one of the sliders will say "CAPTURE" in red along the bottom, which one is it?
[18:04] <ap03> "mic boost"
[18:05] <ap03> oh hold on, i am confused
[18:05] <gordonjcp> okay, try selecting the mike input and adjusting the level
[18:05] <ap03> ah ok
[18:06] <ap03> how do i adjust the level, when i try the arrows , i only get prompted with another name
[18:06] <ap03> its max level
[18:06] <ap03> there are two unused ones, input source and input source at the end
[18:07] <gordonjcp> input source is probably important here
[18:07] <gordonjcp> set it to mic
[18:07] <ap03> done
[18:07] <holstein> i would test them all though.. not trusting the labels
[18:07] <ap03> cool, it doesnt have a graph though, with the sound level
[18:09] <AmberJ_> Hello
[18:11] <AmberJ_> When I boot Lubuntu 11.10 ISO in live cd mode in vitualbox (Virtualbox from Oracle's website, not virtualbox-ose), it boots fine and for a minute (or so) I can see and move my mouse pointer in VM.
[18:12] <AmberJ_> After some time (less than half a minute), my mouse pointer does not moves if I move my mouse...
[18:12] <AmberJ_> +inside VM.
[18:13] <AmberJ_> VM seemless mouse integration is enabled...So, when outside VM window, my mouse behaves normal. But when my pointer overlaps with VM window, it is (seemlessly) auto-captured in VM but it won't move.
[18:13] <AmberJ_> Anyone faced this problem?
[18:32] <smile-plesier> bye :)