[00:00] <pangolin> mhall119: 3.5% tip is more than sufficient, round down to 3% to make it easier to calculate
[00:00] <mhall119> then I'm pretty sure I over-tipped
[00:00] <pangolin> and never go back to that restaurant again
[00:01] <jono> mhall119, heh
[00:01] <mhall119> I'm used to 15% being the baseline
[00:01] <jono> pangolin, sufficient for where?
[00:01] <jono> I am a big believer in over-tipping
[00:01] <jono> :-)
[00:01] <pangolin> jono: I guess <sarcasm> didn't come through the ircs
[00:01] <jono> particularly if you are a regular
[00:01] <jono> pangolin, LOL
[00:01] <jono> I was gonna say... :-)
[00:01]  * pangolin worked as a waiter for 4 years
[00:02] <pangolin> I never calculated what percentage I was given, just put it in my pocket and kept working
[00:03] <pangolin> see, the owner/boss doesn't care about your tip. All they care is that the customer leaves happy.
[00:04] <jono> right
[00:04] <jono> pangolin, what kind of restaurant did you work at?
[00:04]  * jono is a restaurant geek
[00:04] <pangolin> Italian restaurant
[00:05] <pangolin> When I realized that the boss didn't care. I also stopped caring about tips and decided that if I aimed for happy customers I did my job, the money just comes.
[04:40] <jo-erlend> Hmm. I really wish Magnatune was on by default in 12.04. It's already installed, after all. Guess it's too late now, huh?
[04:55] <jo-erlend> I really love that Ubuntu makes it easier to purchase software and music. But not at the expense of FOSS, or artists who share their music as CC but still would like to make a living. Need to be able to think two thoughts at the same time here.
[07:01] <dholbach> good morning
[07:03] <forestpiskie> morning dholbach
[07:04] <dholbach> hi forestpiskie
[07:04] <forestpiskie> I would say good morning - but once again it is raining cat's and dogs :)
[07:23] <quantal_quetzal> \o/
[08:02] <czajkowski> aloha
[12:01] <akgraner> Daviey, hey - what's a good time today?
[12:15] <Daviey> akgraner: Can we make it tomorrow?  Then mrevell and myself can be there.
[12:15] <akgraner> perfect, what time and I'll send invites to you all and put it on my Calendar and blog we will be doing a live stream etc. :-)
[12:27] <nigelb> Daviey: Are you already in CA?
[12:27] <Daviey> nigelb: no, i was last week, will be arriving back on Sunday :)
[12:28] <nigelb> Daviey: Crazy :P
[12:28] <nigelb> OpenStack thing and back again for pre-UDS + UDS?
[12:28]  * nigelb bows
[12:29] <Daviey> nigelb: right
[12:33] <nigelb> Daviey: Your sleep cycle must be awesome (as always)
[12:34] <jbicha> dpm: have you seen https://help.ubuntu.com/ today?
[12:35]  * dpm hugs jbicha :)
[12:35] <dpm> awesome
[12:36] <jbicha> mdke did all of the theme work
[12:37] <nigelb> oh wow.
[12:37] <nigelb> <3
[12:37] <dpm> good work both of you
[12:37] <dpm> jbicha, we should now make the front page translatable :)
[12:38] <jbicha> dpm: the entire thing supports translations, it's just not on LP (yet?)
[12:38] <popey> dpm: do you know who looks after spreadubuntu?
[12:39] <popey> the translations seem quite broken, i get various languages as i navigate the site
[12:39] <dpm> popey, no, I don't know. I seem to remember it was someone from the Italian team
[12:39]  * dpm looks
[12:39] <Daviey> jbicha: https://help.ubuntu.com/community still old theme? :)
[12:41] <jbicha> the pages are index.html, legal.html, contributors.html, search.html & an index.html for each of the releases
[12:42] <dpm> jbicha, I mean the front page of h.u.c, afaik, it is not translatable
[12:43] <dpm> and e.g. https://help.ubuntu.com/12.04/index.html
[12:43] <jbicha> Daviey: that's RT ticket 19635, or set your theme to "light" at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/?action=userprefs&sub=prefs
[12:44] <jbicha> dpm: if you give me an index.html.ca it will work :) (MultiViews is turned on sitewide)
[12:45] <dpm> jbicha, yeah, but it will not scale to all of our languages :). What I mean is that we should put it up for translations in Launchpad
[12:45] <dpm> so that translators can do their work the way they're used to
[12:45] <dpm> and the docs team can collect them easily
[12:46] <dpm> I mean collect translations, not translators ;)
[12:46] <jo-erlend> does anyone know if the fix to the codec install issue on 64bit has been released yet? That is; when you want to play a media file that there's no codec for, the "codec installer" (I don't remember what it's called) tries to install codecs which can't be installed because of dependency issues.
[12:47] <jbicha> ok, we can use the ubuntu-docs package for that, we have to figure out how to build html files with the translatable strings
[12:49] <dpm> assuming they're static HTML files, we can use the script I created for the Ubuntu online tour at http://bazaar.launchpad.net/~ya-bo-ng/ubuntu-online-tour/ubuntu-online-tour/files/head:/translate-html/
[12:49] <Daviey> jbicha: super!
[12:49] <popey> jo-erlend: Daviey may know..
[12:49] <popey> Daviey: bug 899001 - is that SRU0?
[12:49] <ubot2> Launchpad bug 899001 in sessioninstaller "gst-install wants to install i386-version of codec packages on amd64" [High,Fix committed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/899001
[12:50] <jo-erlend> I _Really_ hope that'll be added before release. To me, that's a very critical issue as it gives a very bad first impression.
[12:51] <popey> its unlikely to trigger a respin of the iso
[12:51] <jo-erlend> the iso is done?
[12:51] <jo-erlend> damn...
[12:51] <popey> i dont know, you'd have to speak to the release team
[12:51] <popey> #ubuntu-release
[12:52] <popey> hence me asking Daviey ☺
[12:53] <jo-erlend> I never really know what the difference between released and committed is on LP.
[12:54] <jo-erlend> does release mean the package has been uploaded to the archives?
[12:54] <jo-erlend> or simply that it's been reviewed and accepted?
[12:54] <sagaci> released means people get it through the apt-get updates
[12:54] <cjohnston> committed means that the code has been added to the branch, released means its available for public consumption
[12:56] <Daviey> popey: err
[12:57] <jbicha> jo-erlend: the easy way is to just install ubuntu-restricted-extras
[12:58] <popey> the super easy way is tick the box during install :D
[12:58] <jo-erlend> jbicha, yes, but then we're talking about requiring assistance.
[12:58] <popey> no
[12:58] <jo-erlend> popey, that only works for mp3.
[12:58] <Daviey> i think it's been missed.
[12:58] <Daviey> it's not Fix Committed to the archive just 'upstream'
[14:13] <jcastro> mhall119: https://launchpad.net/askubuntu-lens is now yours to give to mark tully
[14:13] <jcastro> (I couldn't find his nick in lp)
[14:14] <mhall119> jcastro: thanks
[14:14] <mhall119> he's Teester
[14:14] <jcastro> ah, didn't come up in a name search, oh well
[14:15] <jcastro> hey since the old lens was put in USC already, what does this mean for the new version?
[14:15] <jcastro> does it get like, re reviewed?
[14:15] <mhall119> yeah, mark just didn't want to upload a new version when it wasn't his project
[14:15] <mhall119> not it is, so now he can
[14:16] <jcastro> stefano was glad someone nagged it
[14:16] <jcastro> I need that lens to live
[14:18] <mhall119> I'll talk to mark about uploading it for Precise when I see him online
[14:21] <daker> dholbach, https://www.facebook.com/photo.php?fbid=10150754667855141&set=o.274633539242449&type=1&theater
[14:22] <dpm> mhall119, jcastro, nice to see you guys are on it re: the askubuntu-lens, it would be good to be able to reenable the USC banner for Precise once there is a precise version available
[14:23] <dholbach> daker: I'm not quite sure I understand :)
[14:23] <daker> dholbach, this what we saw at the night if you remember but i was closed
[14:23] <daker> it*
[14:24] <dholbach> ah, yes of course
[14:24] <daker> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hassan_Tower
[14:25] <dholbach> daker: first I thought it was http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Koutoubia_Mosque and thought I had missed part of the history where a part of the building had collapsed :)
[14:27] <daker> dholbach, no the view from the inside http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HJ4ZgSP_umA
[14:28] <daker> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mausoleum_of_Mohammed_V
[14:29] <dholbach> yes, now I can see it too :)
[14:37] <popey> mhall119: is your blog running on a Commodore 64 in your basement?
[14:40] <balloons> lol popey.. mhall119 has a ec2 micro
[14:40] <balloons> stop reload spamming his pages and it works fine :-)
[14:40] <balloons> dat burst cpu!
[14:41] <jcastro> dholbach: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/PrecisePangolin/ReleaseNotes/Credits/Developers
[14:41] <jcastro> I fixed that up a bit to make the names fit
[14:41] <jcastro> I hope that format is ok with you
[14:41] <jcastro> I was going for "THE HUGE WALL OF AWESOME" effect.
[14:42] <dholbach> sure sure
[14:42] <dholbach> great
[14:42] <dholbach> did you see the stats in https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/ubuntu-devel-announce/2012-April/000954.html?
[14:43] <dholbach> the numbers of Kate and me differ slightly, but that's (I guess) some syncs from Debian uploads were attributed to the Debian folks although they never touched Ubuntu
[14:43] <dholbach> still they're interesting :)
[14:43] <jcastro> we should do what firefox did a while back
[14:43] <jcastro> where they made that ad with contributor names
[14:43] <jcastro> it was awesome
[14:46] <popey> mhall119: should I just be able to "bzr branch lp:hello-unity && cd hello-unity && ./hello-unity" ?
[14:46] <popey> if so, where do I file bug :D
[14:47]  * popey finds a README
[14:48] <mhall119> popey: you'll need to copy some files
[14:48] <popey> done, works fine
[14:48] <mhall119> :)
[14:48] <popey> neat
[14:49] <mhall119> popey: have fun
[14:50] <mhall119> and if you do need to file a bug: https://bugs.launchpad.net/hello-unity
[14:54] <jcastro> we hanging out today fellas?
[14:56] <dpm> yeah, let's
[14:56]  * balloons gets 'that 70's show' theme stuck in head
[14:57]  * balloons chants, "hanging out, down the street, same old things we did last week..."
[14:59] <jcastro> hey dpm
[14:59] <jcastro> http://meta.askubuntu.com/questions/2985/way-nicer-software-installation-than-we-have-now-should-we-do-this#comment4117_2985
[14:59] <jcastro> we're going to start using this button
[14:59] <jcastro> because it is awesome
[15:00] <dpm> jcastro, nice!
[15:01] <dholbach> so did anyone start a hangout?
[15:01]  * dpm is glad his quick and dirty buttons start getting used in more places
[15:01] <dholbach> if not, I can do it
[15:01] <dpm> ok!
[15:02] <balloons> i want a spanish themed one!
[15:02] <balloons> go go go dpm
[15:02] <balloons> heck, make it catalan!
[15:02] <dpm> yes, that was going to be my next comment :)
[15:03] <jcastro> dholbach: make one and we'll join!
[15:03] <dholbach> done
[16:11] <dholbach> mhall119, dpm: I'm trying to think of a way to make the https://blueprints.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+spec/community-q-upstream-myapps title and description a bit clearer - especially with at least 2 other sessions coming up - how about "MyApps submission experience and expectations for upstreams" and in the description something like: "Review the current process and identify which parts of the documentation need to be improved. Also fi
[16:11] <dholbach> gure out what specifically we expect from upstreams and which help the ARB can provide."?
[16:12] <dholbach> also I guess it'd make sense to have this session towards the end of the week - when the other bits are figured out
[16:12] <mhall119> dholbach: that's pretty long for the title, can we shorten that some?
[16:12] <mhall119> well,  I guess it not any longer than the current one..
[16:12] <dholbach> daniel@daydream:~$ echo "MyApps submission experience and expectations for upstreams" | wc -c
[16:12] <dholbach> 60
[16:12] <dholbach> daniel@daydream:~$ echo "MyApps submission process for Upstream App Developers" | wc -c
[16:12] <dholbach> 54
[16:12] <dholbach> daniel@daydream:~$
[16:13] <dholbach> :-)
[16:13] <mhall119> damn geeks
[16:13] <dpm> lol
[16:13] <dholbach> "MyApps submission experience/expectations for upstreams" makes it 56 ;-)
[16:13] <dholbach> or make it "ARB submission experience/expectations for upstreams" ;-)
[16:13] <dpm> "MA"
[16:14] <dpm> makes it two and it's MyApps shortened
[16:14] <dpm> totally descriptive
[16:14] <dholbach> yeah, totally
[16:14] <dpm> :-)
[16:14] <mhall119> :P
[16:15] <mhall119> dholbach: changes made
[16:15] <dpm> "MyApps submission process review and assessment"?
[16:15]  * dholbach hugs mhall119
[16:25] <dpm> jcastro, argh, sorry, I've commented on the askubuntu buttons question without having seen that you had already
[16:25] <jcastro> no worries
[16:25] <jcastro> noise on meta is fine
[16:25] <jcastro> marcoceppi: hey when you're not OMGing I think we should steal their widget for AU questions to put on developer.u.com
[16:26] <jcastro> marcoceppi: dpm would like to get a nice question widget on developer.u.c
[16:26] <jcastro> like, top questions in the tag and all that fancy stuff
[16:26] <marcoceppi> jcastro: Yeah, I was just working on that now that we have another web-head in place
[16:26] <jcastro> maybe we can just steal the one OMG used
[16:26] <marcoceppi> probably
[16:26] <marcoceppi> actually
[16:26] <marcoceppi> that's a great idea
[16:27] <jcastro> :)
[16:27] <jcastro> marcoceppi: push it somewhere too, so other teams can use it too
[16:27] <jcastro> like, there's no reason we can't have community questions on the community page, etc.
[16:28] <marcoceppi> jcastro: aye
[16:29] <jcastro> then at UDS we'll hunt down someone from the web team and make then maintain it going forward, hah
[16:29] <marcoceppi> \m/
[16:29] <marcoceppi> OMG has been such a time suck
[16:29] <marcoceppi> so glad its so close to being done
[16:30] <greg-g> s/has been/is/ # there, fixed that for you
[17:08] <dholbach> alright my friends - I call it a day
[17:08] <dholbach> see you tomorrow!
[17:10] <pleia2> night dholbach :)
[17:10] <dholbach> bye :)
[17:25] <technoviking> jcastro: soooo, are we fixed:)
[17:26] <jcastro> he's finding out now
[17:26]  * jcastro has been waiting with baited breath
[17:39] <daker> mhall119, should i inform the travel agent too ?
[17:40] <bkerensa> dpm: Your Online Tour Deploy instructions are wonk ;p
[17:40] <dpm> bkerensa, oh, what's the problem?
[17:40] <bkerensa> dpm: ./translate-html -t  ?
[17:40] <bkerensa> does nothing
[17:42] <bkerensa> dpm: ahh I see its actually two depths of that path... there are two translate_html directories in this branch
[17:42] <bkerensa> but the command still won't do anything
[17:42] <dpm> bkerensa, are you in the translate-html/bin/ as per the instructions?
[17:43] <dpm> if so, what does 'translate-html --help' output?
[17:43] <dpm> err ./translate-html --help
[17:44] <bkerensa> bkerensa@bkerensa:~/Projects/Source/Development/12.04/translate-html/bin$ ./translate_html -t
[17:44] <bkerensa> bash: ./translate_html: No such file or directory
[17:44] <bkerensa> >.<
[17:44] <dpm> you're using an underscore instead of a dash
[17:44] <bkerensa> ahh
[17:44] <bkerensa> >.<
[17:45] <dpm> let me know if it now works
[17:45] <bkerensa> dpm: yeah once I get the depends
[17:46] <dpm> yeah, good point, I've just realized that
[17:46] <bkerensa> oh no it changes my bash language to arabic
[17:46] <dpm> just installing polib should do, right?
[17:46] <bkerensa> >.<
[17:47] <bkerensa> doing ./translate-html -t with the python-polib depend changed me to Arabic or some Middle Eastern transliterated font
[17:47] <bkerensa> >.o
[17:48] <dpm> hm, the script just does string replacements, I'm not sure how it can change the locale?
[17:51] <bkerensa> dpm: it seemed to have just been a temporary thing
[17:51] <bkerensa> once I left the path in terminal it stopped trying to replace my w's and other letters with transliterated stuff
[17:53] <mhall119> daker: did the travel agent book your flight already?
[17:54] <mhall119> if so, yes you should definitely let them know so they can cancel it
[17:54] <daker> mhall119, yes before my visa appointment, i got my e-ticket
[17:54] <mhall119> then yeah, they might be able to get it refunded to Canonical
[18:02] <bkerensa> dpm: http://ubuntu-oregon.org/tour/
[18:02] <bkerensa> should be good to go
[18:02] <bkerensa> although its taking a long time too boot :P
[18:03] <SergioMeneses> bkerensa, :O
[18:03] <bkerensa> maybe its having a kernel panic :D
[18:03] <dpm> bkerensa, yeah, it seems it got stuck in a loop
[18:03] <bkerensa> :P
[18:04] <bkerensa> dpm: well its the exact source pulled from the branch :D
[18:04] <SergioMeneses> bkerensa, is it work?
[18:04] <bkerensa> oh wait
[18:04] <bkerensa> I figured it out
[18:04]  * bkerensa makes some changes to paths
[18:05] <dpm> bkerensa, it works here: http://people.canonical.com/~dpm/12.04/en/ - have you tried using an SSD? :P
[18:05] <bkerensa> dpm: yeah ahttp://ubuntu-oregon.org/tour/en
[18:05] <bkerensa> works too but why does it have to be en?
[18:05] <bkerensa> then if people go to /tour they are going to see nothing
[18:06] <SergioMeneses> bkerensa, ok! it is working now!
[18:06] <SergioMeneses> looks great!
[18:07]  * bkerensa is just going to make a redirect from tour to en
[18:07] <dpm> bkerensa, you can hack the html to change the need to be in en/
[18:07] <bkerensa> ahh
[18:07] <bkerensa> ok
[18:14] <dpm> ok, calling it a day here, looking forward to release day!
[18:20] <bkerensa> :D
[18:26] <jcastro> http://www.reddit.com/r/Ubuntu/comments/ss4sv/ubuntu_openweek_24_may_on_freenode/
[18:26] <jcastro> can I get some upboats?
[18:30] <czajkowski> done
[18:35] <czajkowski> hmm I've physio on friday morning @8am this wasn't my best planning with release party the night before
[18:37] <bkerensa> jcastro: http://ubuntu-oregon.org/tour/en/#surf-the-web
[18:37] <bkerensa> :D
[18:54] <czajkowski> imbrandon: have you seen http://opensource.com/government/12/4/kansas-city-explores-civic-life-and-innovation
[18:58] <imbrandon> czajkowski: not specificly but I am a part of alot of local groups including some that are doing similar things due to US being the Pilot City for Google Fiber to the House that rolls out this month ( already working and many speed tests already available publicly ;P )
[18:59] <czajkowski> imbrandon: great
[18:59] <imbrandon> but yea that Project has brought many many like this to the area
[18:59] <jcastro> hah
[18:59] <imbrandon> its great
[18:59] <jcastro> I love how no one on facebook reads the article
[18:59] <jcastro> it's like "openweek next week!"
[18:59] <jcastro> "I hate unity."
[18:59] <imbrandon> LOL
[19:00] <czajkowski> right signing off for the evening, having dinner and a hot toddy and sleep and hope I wake up minus my cold tomorrow
[19:00] <czajkowski> toodles
[19:00] <imbrandon> czajkowski: thanks for the link tho, i will chack this one out a bit more, looks intresting
[19:00] <imbrandon> :)
[19:02]  * jussi waves
[19:03] <jussi> just got home from a day at the pool, was Elodi's first day and well, she loves water!
[19:05] <imbrandon> jussi: sweet
[19:06] <jussi> Amazing, she will be swimming in no time. cant even crawl, but almost swims :P
[19:41] <mhall119> jcastro: you need joey's willy wonka image
[19:41] <jcastro> http://podcast.ubuntu-uk.org:8000/uupc.mp3
[19:41] <jcastro> I will be live on this!
[19:41] <jcastro> (listen in vlc or rhythmbox though, seems buggy in the browser)
[19:44] <balloons> I hears you!
[19:48] <s-fox> Hello everyone
[21:53] <AlanBell> bkerensa: http://ubuntu-oregon.org/tour/en/ appears to be completely broken
[21:54] <bkerensa> AlanBell: loads flawlessly for me
[21:54] <bkerensa> :)
[21:54] <AlanBell> what is it supposed to do?
[21:54] <bkerensa> AlanBell: Its a tour of Ubuntu online?
[21:54] <bkerensa> :D
[21:56] <AlanBell> http://people.ubuntu.com/~alanbell/tour.png just looks like that, can't click anything
[21:56] <AlanBell> chromium and firefox
[21:57] <AlanBell> javascript errors
[22:06] <bkerensa> AlanBell: Weird... You the first one who has had that issue so far :) and we have had a good 100 or so people use it :D
[22:06] <bkerensa> AlanBell: http://i.imgur.com/sab7r.png thats what it looks like
[22:06] <AlanBell> maybe they all use windows or something :)
[22:07] <bkerensa> AlanBell: Do you know what the errors are? The Canonical guy who made it needs to put a bit more work in because I had to do quite a few hacks just to get it to work :D
[22:08] <AlanBell> http://people.ubuntu.com/~alanbell/tour.png firebug pic
[22:09] <bkerensa> imbrandon: ^ cf goof
[22:10] <JanC> stupid sites that pull in JS from all over the net...  ;)
[22:10] <AlanBell> JanC: does it work for you?
[22:11] <JanC> seems to work
[22:11] <JanC> Firefox on 12.04
[22:11] <AlanBell> that is what I am using too
[22:11]  * bkerensa purges caches on all the geo servers and creates page rules
[22:11] <bkerensa> :D
[22:12] <bkerensa> AlanBell maybe its the edge server in the UK
[22:12]  * bkerensa just purged so it will take a few minutes to rebuild and globally propagate the content
[22:13] <bkerensa> Hmm yeah working fine still for me on Chrome/Chromium (Beta Channels) Firefox Stable on 12.04 and Aurora
[22:14] <AlanBell> this makes no sense
[22:14] <JanC> well, it doesn't work very well (i can't escape from the dash?)
[22:15] <popey> bkerensa: broken for me too
[22:15] <popey> bkerensa: what version of the tour are you using?
[22:15] <popey> i see no launcher
[22:16] <JanC> hm, now the launcher is gone for me too
[22:16] <JanC> it was there minutes ago
[22:17] <JanC> and the indicators don't work
[22:17] <JanC> seems like it's broken indeed
[22:18] <popey> http://ubuntuone.com/6zJpdhrGaxLUTkfhfVw2gE  vs   http://ubuntuone.com/5z4KnEI3iDXPWzpJhWgu4R
[22:19] <pleia2> I get the same thing as AlanBell (chrome on 10.04)
[22:19] <imbrandon> bkerensa: yea i dont use them for any of their js, turn off all apps
[22:19] <AlanBell> is it only broken for people called Alan I wonder
[22:19] <imbrandon> let them do the rever that they are good at and thats it
[22:19] <AlanBell> oh pleia2 isn't called Alan, that is OK
[22:19] <pleia2> :)
[22:27] <mhall119> bkerensa: I get js errors too