| ronoc | wow being west coast america makes for very quiet afternoons :) | 00:27 |
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| bryceh | ronoc, indeed | 00:33 |
| bschaefer | you should see it on a Friday! | 00:34 |
| ronoc | bryceh, it's kinda nice, focus time, just caught/fixed a tricky control centre bug | 00:34 |
| ronoc | i'd imagine :) | 00:34 |
| ronoc | i just need to remember to do anything that needs to be done for tomorrow in europe today | 00:35 |
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| jasoncwarner_ | ronoc: why are you in west coast now? holiday? | 00:56 |
| ronoc | jasoncwarner_, I came over early to go the Linux audio conf | 00:57 |
| ronoc | staying with some friends in SF every since | 00:57 |
| ronoc | outer sunset district, near the beach, gift ! | 00:58 |
| jasoncwarner_ | ronoc: ah, nice. have fun! I'll be there bright and early Monday morning (trying to make myself happy about that fact ;0 ) | 00:58 |
| ronoc | jasoncwarner_, cool i think we start the design sprint Wednesday or Thursday | 00:59 |
| jasoncwarner_ | ronoc: yup yup | 00:59 |
| ronoc | jasoncwarner_, found this good radio show down your way recently - http://www.frogworth.com/utilityfog/archives/2012/02/ | 01:03 |
| ronoc | he's most recent is a cracker | 01:04 |
| ronoc | s/he's/his | 01:08 |
| jasoncwarner_ | ronoc: dubstep? i'll give it a listen, but if he starts talking about the virtues of dubstep, I might have to stop it ;) | 01:09 |
| ronoc | jasoncwarner_, a mixture of stuff, folktronica is his big thing | 01:10 |
| jasoncwarner_ | ronoc: nuh uh...you just made that up. bluesrap, see, I can do it too. | 01:11 |
| ronoc | :)) | 01:11 |
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| didrocks | good morning | 05:06 |
| smspillaz | mornin didrocks | 05:14 |
| smspillaz | how goes ? | 05:14 |
| didrocks | hey smspillaz, I'm fine, thanks, yourself? | 05:14 |
| smspillaz | good good, just tackling this flood of essays as usual | 05:15 |
| smspillaz | how is 12.04 looking ? | 05:15 |
| didrocks | smspillaz: it's looking splendid. I hope the dx team will have some SRUs ready for tomorrow :) | 05:16 |
| smspillaz | sure will | 05:17 |
| * smspillaz is just finishing a unittest for something | 05:17 | |
| pitti | Good morning | 05:20 |
| didrocks | hey pitti | 05:20 |
| didrocks | smspillaz: I see though a lot of refactoring for compiz which doesn't suit to a SRU as I told already | 05:20 |
| pitti | hey didrocks, how are you? | 05:21 |
| smspillaz | didrocks: the functional changes aren't dependent on refactoring. where refactoring took place it was to add tests | 05:21 |
| didrocks | pitti: I'm fine, thanks, how are you? :) | 05:21 |
| pitti | seiflotfy, didrocks: bug 986928 sounds like a rather serious issue, which we should SRU ASAP (before many people start upgrading); does that sound possible? | 05:21 |
| ubot2 | Launchpad bug 986928 in zeitgeist "zeitgeist-daemon crashes with "zeitgeist-daemon.vala:473: Unable to upgrade from schema version 3"" [Critical,Triaged] https://launchpad.net/bugs/986928 | 05:21 |
| didrocks | smspillaz: sure, but we still don't want those refactoring in a SRU | 05:21 |
| didrocks | smspillaz: so we will need a tarball with some cherry-picks | 05:21 |
| smspillaz | sure | 05:22 |
| pitti | seiflotfy, didrocks: ^ if a DB upgrade isn't possible, could zg delete/move away the db when it sees an old version, instead of crashing? | 05:22 |
| smspillaz | didrocks: well, I thought nowadays we are only taking distro patches | 05:22 |
| seiflotfy | pitti: | 05:22 |
| didrocks | pitti: mhr3 tarted to look at it yesterday, I'll see again with him today | 05:22 |
| smspillaz | (for P anyways) | 05:22 |
| didrocks | smspillaz: well, we can take bug fixes releases | 05:23 |
| seiflotfy | pitti: i will take a look later today too | 05:23 |
| pitti | seiflotfy: danke sher | 05:23 |
| seiflotfy | D | 05:23 |
| seiflotfy | :D | 05:23 |
| didrocks | smspillaz: or upstream needs a way to provide a big/certified distro-patch otherwise | 05:23 |
| didrocks | smspillaz: because more than 25 commits, I won't take them one by one :) | 05:23 |
| smspillaz | sure | 05:23 |
| tjaalton | I got a window for the package updates somewhere, but clicking on the launcher icon or alt-tabbing doesn't make it visible | 06:19 |
| didrocks | tjaalton: ask on #ubuntu-unity rather, where upstream is :) | 06:19 |
| tjaalton | didrocks: right, forgot.. and now I closed it :P | 06:20 |
| tjaalton | so.. next time | 06:20 |
| BigW | Good Morning. | 06:50 |
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| sil2100 | ogra_: hi | 07:30 |
| sil2100 | ogra_: how's it going with that compiz patch? | 07:30 |
| sil2100 | Since I see it didn't get merged into lp:compiz yet... | 07:31 |
| sil2100 | ogra_: could you merge in https://code.launchpad.net/~sil2100/compiz/fix_770283/+merge/102831 ? Or are we waiting for the GLES patch to be rewritten for this? | 07:33 |
| didrocks | seiflotfy: pitti: kamstrup is on the db upgrade. In fact, it seems to already be fixed in trunk | 07:34 |
| didrocks | so we are looking at the right commit | 07:35 |
| pitti | didrocks: oh, nice! | 07:35 |
| pitti | didrocks: bug updated, thanks | 07:35 |
| didrocks | pitti: see https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/zeitgeist/+bug/986928/comments/7 | 07:36 |
| ubot2 | Launchpad bug 986928 in zeitgeist "zeitgeist-daemon crashes with "zeitgeist-daemon.vala:473: Unable to upgrade from schema version 3"" [Critical,Triaged] | 07:36 |
| didrocks | pitti: so, it seems that only natty -> precise upgrade is broken | 07:36 |
| didrocks | not natty -> oneiric -> precise | 07:36 |
| didrocks | (and lucid -> precise doesn't have zg) | 07:36 |
| pitti | oh, we don't actually support a direct upgrade | 07:37 |
| didrocks | yeah | 07:38 |
| didrocks | how come this one bug without duplicate became critical? ;) | 07:38 |
| didrocks | so, there is a fix, but as it's not the upgrade path we support | 07:38 |
| pitti | didrocks: bug adjusted | 07:40 |
| didrocks | pitti: so I guess it's best to just follow our initial plan with a big zg SRU tomorrow? | 07:40 |
| didrocks | and not shortcut for that one? | 07:40 |
| pitti | didrocks: oh yes, it's in no way that urgent | 07:41 |
| didrocks | pitti: great, thanks ;) | 07:43 |
| didrocks | the only way people can think doing the right thing is: upgrade natty -> oneiric, reboot in a VT, then upgrade oneiric -> precise | 07:43 |
| didrocks | (without logging in a real oneiric session) | 07:44 |
| seb128 | hey | 07:51 |
| didrocks | salut seb128, ça va? | 07:52 |
| pitti | bonjour seb128 | 07:52 |
| seb128 | hey didrocks, ca va bien ! et toi ? | 07:52 |
| seb128 | hey pitti, wie geht's | 07:52 |
| didrocks | seb128: ça va bien :) | 07:52 |
| seb128 | pitti, yesterday morning was meeting reminder day! (yeah, i'm useless like that this week :p) | 07:52 |
| didrocks | seb128: lagging rather I would say :p | 07:53 |
| didrocks | seb128: or you can be on the edge | 07:53 |
| didrocks | "next Tuesday, there will be a meeting reminder" | 07:53 |
| didrocks | :) | 07:53 |
| seb128 | ;-) | 07:53 |
| seb128 | didrocks, next tuesday is an holiday for us! | 07:54 |
| * pitti hugs seb128 | 07:54 | |
| * seb128 hugs didrocks pitti | 07:54 | |
| pitti | for us as well | 07:54 |
| pitti | and I'm taking Monday off | 07:54 |
| * didrocks hugs pitti seb128 | 07:54 | |
| seb128 | pitti, I will swap the UDS tuesday which is also an holiday for monday | 07:54 |
| didrocks | seb128: well, for you, I'm sprinting and will enjoy some sun hopefully :) | 07:54 |
| seb128 | pitti, then travel on wednesday | 07:54 |
| seb128 | didrocks, you are used to work during holidays by now ;-) | 07:55 |
| didrocks | indeed :) | 07:55 |
| didrocks | I'll get my days back anyways ;) | 07:55 |
| seb128 | that's what you think... | 07:55 |
| seb128 | they always say that :p | 07:55 |
| didrocks | heh, /me rushes on the calendar in advance :) | 07:56 |
| chrisccoulson | good morning everyone | 07:59 |
| pitti | hey chrisccoulson | 08:00 |
| chrisccoulson | hi pitti, how are you? | 08:00 |
| pitti | quite fine, thanks! how about you? | 08:00 |
| chrisccoulson | yeah, good thanks. i'll be fine as long as i don't look outside at the miserable weather :) | 08:01 |
| * pitti looks at a steel blue sky and sun and wonders what you are talking about | 08:02 | |
| chrisccoulson | heh | 08:02 |
| chrisccoulson | it's rained pretty much every day so far this month | 08:02 |
| pitti | it was pretty dreadful until yesterday here, too | 08:02 |
| chrisccoulson | and it's rained non-stop here since last night | 08:02 |
| pitti | but it seems from today on it's finally getting spring/summer | 08:03 |
| chrisccoulson | hopefully it will move a bit further north west :) | 08:04 |
| chrisccoulson | oh, blueprint time again :/ | 08:05 |
| chrisccoulson | i'm not sure what to register this time. i already know pretty much what i'm doing next cycle, and most of it is carried over from this cycle ;) | 08:05 |
| pitti | chrisccoulson: so just use that then, and perhaps clean them up a bit | 08:07 |
| pitti | moving WIs to the WI field, refresh description if appropriate, etc. | 08:07 |
| chrisccoulson | yeah, i'll do that | 08:07 |
| chrisccoulson | lol @ http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-europe-17829438 | 08:18 |
| chrisccoulson | i like how the newsreader in the video is trying not to laugh | 08:18 |
| seb128 | hey chrisccoulson, how are you? | 08:19 |
| chrisccoulson | hi seb128. i'm good thanks, how are you? | 08:19 |
| seb128 | lol | 08:20 |
| seb128 | I'm good thanks | 08:20 |
| ogra_ | sil2100, sorry, but my boards are occupied with image tests still, i cant do a testbuild yet, i'll get to it asap | 08:23 |
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| pitti | chrisccoulson: *chuckle* | 08:51 |
| dupondje | Is GDK_SCROLL_MASK needed now to trigger 'scroll-event' ? | 09:03 |
| dupondje | cause I have something odd :) | 09:03 |
| seb128 | dupondje, what's the something weird? | 09:10 |
| chrisccoulson | finally turned my new phone on :) | 09:11 |
| chrisccoulson | after having it for 2 days! | 09:11 |
| dupondje | seb128: The "scroll-event" signal: | 09:13 |
| dupondje | To receive this signal, the GdkWindow associated to the widget needs to enable the GDK_BUTTON_PRESS_MASK mask. | 09:13 |
| dupondje | thats on http://developer.gnome.org/gtk3/3.2/GtkWidget.html#GtkWidget-scroll-event | 09:13 |
| seb128 | dupondje, that was not my question | 09:22 |
| seb128 | dupondje, I know what scroll-event are, I asked what is the "cause I have something odd " | 09:22 |
| seb128 | dupondje, i.e describe the issue rather than try to guess the problem and ask an oriented question | 09:23 |
| dupondje | seb128: well i'm working on Remmina atm. the RDP plugin doesn't bind GDK_SCROLL_MASK, but scrolling works perfectly (after implementing GDK_SMOOTH_SCROLL) | 09:23 |
| dupondje | but scrolling on the VNC plugin only works if the window has GDK_SCROLL_MASK | 09:23 |
| seb128 | dupondje, if you want to receive scroll events you need GDK_SCROLL_MASK yes | 09:24 |
| seb128 | dupondje, most gtk widgets have it set for you so on normal widgets scrolling just work without having to do anything | 09:25 |
| seb128 | dupondje, do you use custom widgets there? | 09:25 |
| dupondje | Its a default gtk_drawing_area_new | 09:26 |
| seb128 | I guess that should have the scroll mask set for you | 09:27 |
| seb128 | how do you try to scroll? mouse wheel? | 09:27 |
| seb128 | does it depends on where you are in the drawing area? | 09:27 |
| seb128 | like do you have custom widgets in there that may "block" the signal? | 09:27 |
| dupondje | I scroll with mouse wheel. It works fine when adding GDK_SCROLL_MASK. Its just odd that this is not needed in the rdp plugin code. | 09:28 |
| dupondje | And just the same widget is created for both it seems. | 09:29 |
| dupondje | The code in question: https://github.com/dupondje/Remmina/blob/master/remmina-plugins/vnc/vnc_plugin.c | 09:30 |
| dupondje | If on line 1862 I add GDK_SCROLL_MASK, scrolling works. | 09:31 |
| dupondje | The rdp code: https://github.com/dupondje/Remmina/blob/master/remmina-plugins/rdp/rdp_event.c (line 480) you see it just used the same as in the vnc_plugin.c, but there it works ... | 09:32 |
| seb128 | dupondje, weird indeed | 09:36 |
| seb128 | it seems like that the drawingarea in gtk doesn't set the mask for you | 09:36 |
| seb128 | not sure why you don't need to add it to rdp there | 09:36 |
| dupondje | strange thing | 09:39 |
| dupondje | anyway, adding GDK_SCROLL_MASK in both cases shouldn't hurt right? | 09:40 |
| seb128 | dupondje, seems the right thing to do if you want scroll events ;-) | 09:41 |
| dupondje | still its odd that it worked without on the rdp plugin :P | 09:43 |
| dupondje | dirty gtk :) | 09:43 |
| seb128 | ricotz, hey | 10:06 |
| seb128 | ricotz, bug #933296 is happening with the cairo from your ppa it seems, dunno if you track issues specific to newer versions in some way | 10:06 |
| ubot2 | Launchpad bug 933296 in cairo "LibreOffice-Impress can not play slide show (when using new cairo from ppas, not affecting Ubuntu archive)" [Low,Triaged] https://launchpad.net/bugs/933296 | 10:06 |
| seb128 | Sweetshark, ^ if you see similar bugs check that the users don't use the new cairo from ricotz's ppa or the xorg-edger one | 10:07 |
| ricotz | seb128, hey, thanks for pointing it, while there is already an upstream bug report for cairo, it hopefully gets some attention | 10:11 |
| seb128 | ricotz, yw, I'm glad btw I didn't say yes to the new cairo version, seems like it has quite some regressions ;-) | 10:11 |
| ricotz | seb128, yeah ;), but good that people using it already and hitting such issues early enough | 10:12 |
| seb128 | indeed | 10:12 |
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| Sweetshark | seb128: thanks. | 11:34 |
| seb128 | Sweetshark, yw | 11:35 |
| sil2100 | ogra_: give me a sign if you find time for this patch/merge thing ;) | 12:00 |
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| ogra_ | sil2100, cjwatson wanted to review the process of handling the gles patch first, waiting for him now, then i can merge ... it will happen before release, no worries | 12:01 |
| sil2100 | ogra_: phew ;) That would be great - since we'd like to have this for the SRU0, fglrx users would be super happy | 12:03 |
| ogra_ | yeah, i know | 12:03 |
| ogra_ | its just that colin thinks he can make the process better for all of us, so future SRUs are less hard for the next 5 years ... | 12:03 |
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| didrocks | chrisccoulson: hey, I think you are missing the chromium/firefox session by default for next cycle, do you want me to file the gap? ;) | 13:15 |
| pitti | /usr/lib/webkitgtk-3.0-0/libexec/GtkLauncher http://www.ubuntu.com | 13:16 |
| pitti | what more do you need? | 13:16 |
| pitti | and it'll free lots of CD space! | 13:16 |
| didrocks | pitti: it's all what we need, agreed \o/ | 13:17 |
| didrocks | pitti: or if you need more, just use the webkit developer tools to save bookmarks on disk :) | 13:18 |
| didrocks | waow, the integration we did with the python backend works really great with those dev tools for step by step between python and javascript | 13:20 |
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| * mterry can't think of any awesome blueprints to file. Ubuntu is done! | 13:56 | |
| * mterry goes home | 13:57 | |
| pitti | mterry: python 3 porting FTW! | 13:57 |
| * ogra_ files desktop-p-mterry-to-clean-his-kitchen | 13:57 | |
| pitti | ogra_: speak after me: Q! Q! Q! | 13:58 |
| mterry | pitti, oh yeah. There is a lot of that for duplicity | 13:58 |
| ogra_ | pitti, oops :) | 13:58 |
| mterry | I do have a blueprint for that, but doesn't need discussion, just doing | 13:58 |
| mterry | ogra_, :) | 13:58 |
| pitti | desktop-q-quadruple-quality | 13:58 |
| mterry | I guess a quickly session would make sense too | 13:59 |
| cyphermox | pitti: what about a desktop-q-quick-quick-quick-boot | 14:02 |
| cyphermox | :) | 14:02 |
| pitti | cyphermox: and quiet-quiet-boot, too! | 14:02 |
| cyphermox | +1 | 14:02 |
| pitti | rename from https://blueprints.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+spec/desktop-p-text-free-boot | 14:02 |
| cyphermox | hehe | 14:02 |
| mterry | pitti, don't rename specs! :) We just talked about that | 14:13 |
| desrt | seb128: this background thing is really the issue as we discussed it at the time | 14:19 |
| seb128 | desrt, ok, I didn't understand it would make the ui inconsistant, showing the image only once and making it "vanish" by itself when revisiting the panel | 14:19 |
| desrt | oh. maybe i misunderstood then | 14:20 |
| desrt | let me check | 14:20 |
| desrt | i thought it should never appear | 14:20 |
| desrt | okay | 14:20 |
| seb128 | desrt, no, did you read my most recent comment? | 14:20 |
| desrt | so the fact that it appears once is a bug | 14:20 |
| seb128 | desrt, right, that's what I said in my recent comment :p | 14:21 |
| desrt | right | 14:21 |
| desrt | i agree with that part of the bug | 14:21 |
| seb128 | desrt, it should be never there or always there | 14:21 |
| desrt | although i think it's less bad than the situation we had before | 14:21 |
| seb128 | desrt, right, that's why I didn't suggest reverting the change over it | 14:21 |
| desrt | ie: the first time you would see it added to that section with the proper filename | 14:21 |
| desrt | and then when you go back you would see the sha1 checksum as the filename | 14:22 |
| seb128 | desrt, I wonder if we should just show "fake" an entry from the active background if it's not listed | 14:22 |
| desrt | seb128: i was thinking the same | 14:22 |
| seb128 | to have something showing and selected | 14:22 |
| desrt | but under "Pictures folder" is really random | 14:22 |
| desrt | i have no idea why it should have been there | 14:22 |
| seb128 | desrt, yeah, maybe just under "wallpaper" | 14:23 |
| desrt | seb128: or maybe just not at all | 14:23 |
| desrt | so here is a question | 14:23 |
| seb128 | desrt, right, there is raise the interest of having a "-" button in the ui | 14:23 |
| desrt | what happens to that item when the user changes the background? | 14:23 |
| desrt | does it vanish? | 14:23 |
| seb128 | it raises* | 14:24 |
| desrt | ya | 14:24 |
| seb128 | desrt, I start pondering if we should just tell users "copy an image to ~/Images and it will show there" | 14:24 |
| desrt | not the best-designed UI, imho | 14:24 |
| seb128 | then you can select it | 14:24 |
| seb128 | rather than having that +,- | 14:25 |
| desrt | seb128: really, you might expect that + does that for you | 14:25 |
| seb128 | desrt, well, that was it was doing before your fix, but in a buggy way | 14:25 |
| desrt | well | 14:25 |
| desrt | into a file with a strange name in ~/.cache/ | 14:25 |
| seb128 | so maybe it should do a cp to ~/Images for local files | 14:25 |
| desrt | let me seek the advice of upstream :) | 14:25 |
| seb128 | desrt, thanks | 14:25 |
| mterry | kenvandine, do you generally have a UDS session for gwibber? | 14:29 |
| kenvandine | mterry, yeah | 14:29 |
| seb128 | hey mterry, kenvandine | 14:32 |
| seb128 | mterry, btw dunno if mpt got back to you but | 14:33 |
| seb128 | <mpt>seb128, yes, something with 1500 reviews averaging 4.5 stars will get ranked higher than something with 5 reviews averaging 5 stars. https://wiki.ubuntu.com/SoftwareCenter#top-rated | 14:33 |
| seb128 | mterry, in follow up of the other night discussion | 14:33 |
| seb128 | mterry, and deja-dup not showing up is a fix commited s-c bug according to mvo, it's happening after visiting the top rated category | 14:33 |
| mterry | seb128, ah cool, thanks | 14:34 |
| desrt | seb128: following the discussionin #g-h? | 14:47 |
| * desrt is really unsure what to do | 14:47 | |
| seb128 | desrt, yes | 14:47 |
| seb128 | desrt, I would just change the copy code to copy to ~/Images rather than .cache/... | 14:48 |
| seb128 | not sure about the "-" button, I don't like deleting from the disk | 14:48 |
| seb128 | I would replace it by a browser button calling nautilus on the dir :p | 14:48 |
| seb128 | well the "-" issue or orthogonal, it already let you delete ~/Images files nowadays | 14:49 |
| seb128 | oh, no, it doesn't | 14:49 |
| seb128 | it's just unactive | 14:49 |
| seb128 | well I would just change your "don't copy" patch to "copy the file to XDG_PICTURES_DIR" | 14:50 |
| seb128 | that let a broken "-" button which is not ideal but that would address the main isue | 14:52 |
| desrt | seb128: i think the open-nautilus approach is the right thing too | 14:59 |
| * desrt still doesn't like the copy | 15:03 | |
| jcastro | who wants to do an ubuntu-desktop session for openweek? | 15:04 |
| jcastro | a bunch of us are going to UDS early so if you're not going early and want to help the team it would be appreciated | 15:04 |
| seb128 | jcastro, hey, what sort of session is openweek again? and when is openweek? | 15:19 |
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| pitti | chrisccoulson: question for you in bug 988283 | 15:43 |
| ubot2 | Launchpad bug 988283 in ubufox "Drop extra parameter from startpage URL when the default search is Yahoo" [Low,Triaged] https://launchpad.net/bugs/988283 | 15:43 |
| chrisccoulson | pitti - ah. so, the way this works currently is that we just append the default search provider name to the startpage URL. However, only http://start.ubuntu.com/12.04/Google/ and http://start.ubuntu.com/12.04/Yahoo/ actually exist. Everything else is just redirected to the google site | 15:47 |
| chrisccoulson | so, if you select a non-google or non-yahoo search provider, we offer the google startpage | 15:47 |
| pitti | chrisccoulson: ok; still seems strange to do it this way around | 15:47 |
| chrisccoulson | which is why the check is that way around | 15:48 |
| pitti | ok | 15:48 |
| pitti | thanks for the explanation | 15:48 |
| chrisccoulson | pitti - 1 second though, i'll just check with bueno | 15:48 |
| pitti | chrisccoulson: can you please paste that into the bug, for the record? | 15:48 |
| pitti | good night everyone | 16:12 |
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| * didrocks waves good night | 17:01 | |
| kenvandine | mterry, sorry i didn't see your MPs.... i'll get them all reviewed today | 17:18 |
| mterry | kenvandine, no rush | 17:21 |
| kenvandine | is the lightdm branch for an SRU? | 17:21 |
| kenvandine | looks simple enough, i'll look at it first | 17:22 |
| mterry | kenvandine, naw, I don't think it's important enough for that. None of the MPs are, I think | 17:22 |
| kenvandine | mterry, i just sent one to you that i do hope to get into an SRU release soon | 17:22 |
| mterry | kenvandine, ok, will look at it today | 17:22 |
| kenvandine | it adds icons for the lens, it won't affect the binaries that are installed by default, just the lens in universe | 17:22 |
| chrisccoulson | angry birds space is really cool | 17:32 |
| kenvandine | chrisccoulson, indeed it is | 17:32 |
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| jcastro | seb128: the audience is ubuntu enthusiasts | 17:52 |
| jcastro | we can do developer sessions, but something more general would be awesome | 17:53 |
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| jcastro | like, things that are cool on the desktop, etc. would be fine | 17:53 |
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| seb128 | jcastro, when is that? | 17:57 |
| seb128 | jcastro, next week? | 17:57 |
| seb128 | mterry, hey! | 17:58 |
| jcastro | next week, wed, thu, friday | 17:58 |
| jcastro | https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuOpenWeek | 17:58 |
| mterry | seb128, what up? | 17:58 |
| seb128 | mterry, do you know how the protocol works? what's supposed to be written, returned back? | 17:58 |
| seb128 | mterry, normal login has a | 17:59 |
| seb128 | +[+3,57s] DEBUG: Wrote 24 bytes to daemon | 17:59 |
| seb128 | +[+3,63s] DEBUG: Read 8 bytes from daemon | 17:59 |
| seb128 | +[+3,63s] DEBUG: Read 18 bytes from daemon | 17:59 |
| seb128 | +[+0,03s] DEBUG: Wrote 17 bytes to daemon | 17:59 |
| seb128 | +[+0,03s] DEBUG: Read 8 bytes from daemon | 17:59 |
| seb128 | +[+0,03s] DEBUG: Read 120 bytes from daemon | 17:59 |
| seb128 | 17:59 | |
| seb128 | those seem normal login | 17:59 |
| mterry | Yar, not very helpful | 17:59 |
| seb128 | my "broken" one has | 17:59 |
| seb128 | +[+7,41s] DEBUG: Wrote 18 bytes to daemon | 17:59 |
| seb128 | +[+7,41s] DEBUG: Read 8 bytes from daemon | 17:59 |
| seb128 | +[+7,41s] DEBUG: Read 4 bytes from daemon | 17:59 |
| seb128 | I did print g_debug ("WRITE MESSAGE: %u %zu\n",stated_length, message_length); | 18:00 |
| seb128 | in write_message() | 18:00 |
| mterry | 4 bytes looks too small | 18:00 |
| seb128 | and I get | 18:00 |
| seb128 | +[+7,41s] DEBUG: WRITE MESSAGE: 18 18 | 18:00 |
| seb128 | right | 18:00 |
| mterry | I'm not even sure that's a full header | 18:00 |
| seb128 | but I'm a bit suprised lightdm is stucked in a read if it has been writing back | 18:00 |
| mterry | fair | 18:00 |
| seb128 | mterry, well I get the issue on my laptop, maybe we can debug together next week at the pre-uds rally if you prefer? | 18:01 |
| mterry | but if it's sending bad packets, maybe it's all sorts of confused anyway | 18:01 |
| mterry | seb128, sure. This is that "logging in..." bug I can't reproduce? | 18:01 |
| seb128 | mterry, yes | 18:01 |
| seb128 | mterry, it happens every time for me with the setup I described on second login | 18:02 |
| seb128 | i.e reboot | 18:02 |
| seb128 | log into my user | 18:02 |
| seb128 | change user | 18:02 |
| seb128 | log into the test one | 18:02 |
| mterry | seb128, yeah, I guess it's easier for us to meet up rather than me figure out what the difference in our lappies is | 18:02 |
| seb128 | log out | 18:02 |
| seb128 | try to log in it again | 18:02 |
| seb128 | and it does it | 18:02 |
| seb128 | mterry, well I could try to figure out the lightdm protocol or bother you with IRC debug | 18:03 |
| seb128 | but at this point I think it will be easier to grab you and,or robert at UDS | 18:03 |
| mterry | seb128, I'd be happy to do that too, but yeah | 18:03 |
| seb128 | or before UDS rather | 18:03 |
| seb128 | mterry, thanks for listening anyway ;-) I will try to see if I can get by netbook to get the issue, would be easier to debug that to screw my laptop :p | 18:04 |
| mterry | seb128, actually, that's an interesting idea. let me try to reproduce on a fresh VM | 18:04 |
| seb128 | hum vms, that can be handy as well :p | 18:05 |
| seb128 | jcastro, ok, not sure who to recommend from desktop, maybe jbicha want to do a presentation or pitti ;-) | 18:06 |
| seb128 | jcastro, I will travel on wednesday and we at the preUDS rally thursday and friday | 18:06 |
| seb128 | jcastro, so I can't do one | 18:06 |
| kenvandine | seb128, i have the same excuse :) | 18:06 |
| cyphermox | seb128: not exactly seeded, but I'm tempted to add the evo bug where you can lose data if you move folders around in IMAP, to the release notes | 18:09 |
| kenvandine | cyphermox, lucid users upgrading will keep evolution | 18:10 |
| cyphermox | good point | 18:10 |
| kenvandine | so probably a good idea | 18:10 |
| cyphermox | yup | 18:10 |
| seb128 | cyphermox, yeah, data lost bugs are worth documenting | 18:14 |
| jcastro | seb128: yeah, the weeks didn't line up with the rally, I am hoping for jbicha to save the day too | 18:15 |
| jbicha | well I can't do anything Wed or Thurs next week | 18:16 |
| seb128 | jcastro, friday he said | 18:17 |
| seb128 | ;-) | 18:17 |
| seb128 | jbicha, thanks ;-) | 18:17 |
| cyphermox | done. | 18:17 |
| jbicha | lol | 18:17 |
| jcastro | jbicha: grab a slot please! | 18:17 |
| cyphermox | jcastro: I'll see if I can spare time too | 18:18 |
| cyphermox | perhaps a piece about network configuration? | 18:18 |
| jbicha | jcastro: so the audience isn't necessarily future developers? but the infamous "power users" too? | 18:19 |
| kenvandine | jbicha, yeah that is the difference from developer week | 18:19 |
| jcastro | jbicha: yep. | 18:20 |
| mterry | seb128, still can't reproduce in a VM :-/ | 18:24 |
| * mterry calls it quits until next week | 18:24 | |
| jbicha | ok, I'm all signed up | 18:24 |
| mterry | jbicha, thanks man! | 18:24 |
| jbicha | I'm going to have to install lucid because I'm having trouble remembering what that was like ;) | 18:25 |
| seb128 | mterry, no worry, you will have the right to enjoy a french keyboard to debug it | 18:34 |
| seb128 | mterry, usually I would switch my layout for your bug I can't until you fix that other bug ;-) | 18:34 |
| mterry | seb128, hah, but isn't the problem that you're stuck in 'us'? | 18:35 |
| seb128 | mterry, you wish :p | 18:35 |
| seb128 | ok, enough trolling for now, dinner time | 18:35 |
| seb128 | have fun there ;-) | 18:35 |
| seb128 | bbl | 18:35 |
| mterry | seb128, oh really? Ah, because 'fr' is your system layout i guess | 18:35 |
| mterry | seb128, enjoy | 18:35 |
| seb128 | mterry, thanks | 18:36 |
| seb128 | mterry, yes, fr is my system layout ;-) | 18:36 |
| bryceh | mterry, you saw my workaround to that fr(oss) bug right? | 18:45 |
| mterry | bryceh, oh no? | 18:45 |
| * mterry looks | 18:45 | |
| bryceh | mterry, basically just fiddle your layout into your /etc/defaults/keyboard | 18:47 |
| mterry | bryceh, still don't see that in the bug, but cool. I guess that makes sense, to change your default layout | 18:48 |
| mterry | bryceh, thanks for working on that bug! | 18:48 |
| bryceh | mterry, sure. see the upstream bug for where we're at | 18:48 |
| bryceh | mterry, other (maybe better?) workaround is to reconfigure keyboard-mappings | 18:49 |
| bryceh | er, sudo dpkg-reconfigure keyboard-configuration | 18:50 |
| * mterry goes afk | 18:50 | |
| bryceh | mterry, https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/xkeyboard-config/+bug/985065/comments/14 | 18:50 |
| ubot2 | Launchpad bug 985065 in xkeyboard-config "Can't use fr/oss keyboard layout by default" [High,Confirmed] | 18:50 |
| mterry | I thought all that stuff was synced between bugs | 18:50 |
| * mterry goes afk for realsies | 18:52 | |
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