=== jalcine is now known as Guest87680 === Guest58047 is now known as Jacky === Jacky is now known as [Jacky] === [Jacky] is now known as Jacky === amithkk is now known as defocus === defocus is now known as Guest50099 === Guest50099 is now known as quantal_quetzal_ === quantal_quetzal_ is now known as amithkk === amithkk is now known as ubuntu === smb` is now known as smb === ubuntu is now known as amithkkl === amithkkl is now known as amithkk === jalcine- is now known as Jacky === doko_ is now known as doko === greyback is now known as greyback|lunch === greyback|lunch is now known as greyback [13:12] hey hye [14:01] everyone ready? [14:02] #startmeeting ubuntu qa community [14:02] Meeting started Wed Apr 25 14:02:09 2012 UTC. The chair is balloons. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.ubuntu.com/meetingology. [14:02] Available commands: #accept #accepted #action #agree #agreed #chair #commands #endmeeting #endvote #halp #help #idea #info #link #lurk #meetingname #meetingtopic #nick #progress #rejected #replay #restrictlogs #save #startmeeting #subtopic #topic #unchair #undo #unlurk #vote #voters #votesrequired === meetingology changed the topic of #ubuntu-meeting to: Ubuntu Meeting Grounds | Calendar/Scheduled meetings: http://fridge.ubuntu.com/calendar | Logs: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MeetingLogs | Meetingology documentation: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/meetingology | ubuntu qa community Meeting | Current topic: [14:02] can i get a roll call on this fine spring (or fall) day? [14:04] o/ [14:04] * astraljava is on a very bad connection [14:05] ahh [14:06] balloons: Is it okay if I just present our issues now, and then get on my way? [14:06] astraljava, yes, no problem [14:06] :-) [14:06] Thanks! [14:06] Studio is fine, images -> final. [14:07] Xubuntu is fine except Wubi, which is a problem. I noticed that jibel has tested it on Alpha-2. [14:07] But otherwise we might not have support for it. [14:08] So we have to discuss about it later tonight. [14:08] That's about it. [14:08] .. [14:08] astraljava, yes someone was asking about getting xubuntu wubi testing.. [14:08] but they asked so late yesterday [14:08] It was me. :) [14:08] lol -- I see to remember a different username [14:09] cool [14:09] balloons: Can you ask jibel if he has time for it? Otherwise I'm afraid we cannot guarantee it's quality. [14:10] But that's it. Any questions? [14:10] astraljava, I can try and get a wubi tester on it.. i don't think we'll find an issue with it tho tbh [14:10] wubi has been suprisingly good since the couple fixes last week [14:11] Okay, so I'll refer to that when skaet asks. [14:11] yes, you should :-) but we'll shoot for a result anyway [14:11] It'd be good. [14:11] well, since we're sticking with short and sweet, jibel just announced we had a record-breaking iso testing period [14:11] Heheh. :) Cool. [14:12] as of now, we stand at 108 contributors, and 1187 results! [14:12] w0w! [14:12] Right, I'm off. Thanks Nick! Talk to you later tonight. [14:12] kk :-) cheers mate [14:14] anyone else about? [14:14] sorry i was late [14:14] i can report that there's nothing causing a problem in lubuntu [14:15] thinking thru the flavors quickly.. kubuntu is looking good, edubuntu also looking good, ubuntu studio is good.. xubuntu needs wubi testing [14:15] and kanliot reports lubuntu is good :-) [14:15] awesome! [14:15] balloons: Still need i386 wubi on Kubuntu. [14:15] actually kubuntu has a problem in the dist upgrade notificaiton [14:15] ScottK, I got that for you this morning.. [14:15] I'll need testers for the fix there [14:15] when it's ready [14:15] Riddell, can you link? [14:15] balloons: He's got to write the code first. [14:16] https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/kubuntu-devel/2012-April/006024.html [14:16] Well, I mean the i386 is going on right now as we speak.. let's see [14:17] Excellent. [14:17] We could also use help with amd64+mac images. [14:17] The guy that was testing them over the weekend seems to have vanished. [14:17] On kubuntu? [14:17] Yes [14:17] let me check the list [14:17] http://iso.qa.ubuntu.com/qatracker/milestones/214/builds/15941/testcases [14:18] http://iso.qa.ubuntu.com/qatracker/milestones/214/builds/16004/testcases [14:20] hmm.. [14:20] who was testing them ScottK ? [14:21] shadeslayer. [14:21] He seems to have got lost in the wilds of India the last few days though. [14:21] lol [14:22] well, I'll try a 2 for 1 deal.. are th eamd+64 isos going to be rebuilt when you make the dist-upgrade fix? [14:23] basically, I can put folks on alert to test as soon as the change drops.. I don't want to make them test twice if we know a respin is coming :-) [14:23] balloons is that dist-upgrade notification issue .... what is the bug # (should i test for lubuntu?) [14:24] kanliot, sounds like it's just for kde.. Looks like a muon bug [14:24] ty [14:25] np [14:25] ok, so in summary, release is looking good for tomorrow. Xubuntu would like wubi testing, kubuntu waiting on wubi results, and would like amd64+mac help.. [14:25] Anyone else? Any status updates or questions/concerns? [14:27] balloons: kubuntu will need oneiric testing [14:27] for upgrade notifications [14:29] ok, Riddell I'll stay in #ubuntu-release.. do let me know when the changes are live [14:30] I think that's all then folks.. Crunch time! Let's have a good release. And don't forget to celebrate! [14:30] #endmeeting === meetingology changed the topic of #ubuntu-meeting to: Ubuntu Meeting Grounds | Calendar/Scheduled meetings: http://fridge.ubuntu.com/calendar | Logs: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MeetingLogs | Meetingology documentation: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/meetingology [14:30] Meeting ended Wed Apr 25 14:30:25 2012 UTC. [14:30] Minutes (wiki): http://ubottu.com/meetingology/logs/ubuntu-meeting/2012/ubuntu-meeting.2012-04-25-14.02.moin.txt [14:30] Minutes (html): http://ubottu.com/meetingology/logs/ubuntu-meeting/2012/ubuntu-meeting.2012-04-25-14.02.html === yofel_ is now known as yofel === ralsina is now known as ralsina_lunch === noy_ is now known as noy === elopio_ is now known as elopio === plars_ is now known as plars === ralsina_lunch is now known as ralsina === jalcine is now known as Guest21270 === Guest21270 is now known as Jacky === Jacky is now known as Guest90879 === Guest90879 is now known as JackyAlcine === JackyAlcine is now known as Guest85884 === Guest85884 is now known as Jacky === Jacky is now known as Guest70035 === Guest70035 is now known as Jacky === StevenR_ is now known as StevenR === Jacky is now known as Guest53736 === Guest53736 is now known as Jacky [19:02] hi, anyone around for an Edubuntu meeting? [19:02] * stgraber waves [19:03] stgraber: the testing for the new amd64 image is under way [19:03] stgraber: I should be able to post the results with the test cases you mentioned in 30-40 minutes [19:03] i'm here;) [19:04] * jussi is vaguely observing [19:04] cool, I just started running an Edubuntu amd64 test here too [19:04] so we should have enough coverage for me to sign off that build and be back to ready-to-release [19:05] I did some shuffling around of services on my server for the release and I'm mirroring edubuntu + kubuntu, I'll also be seeding the Edubuntu images from another box to ensure we don't get into the same bandwidth issues as last year [19:05] and weblive is currently busy rebuilding, hoping to have it all working nicely at some point tonight [19:06] I'll seed a little from home and work too, I guess having another few mbps of seeding would help for the first few hours [19:06] I'd like to start discussing ideas for 12.10 as well as soon as 12.04 is out. I'll post some things I've been thinking about to the mailing list [19:07] (perhaps that will motivate others to do so too :) ) [19:08] stgraber: hmm, I seem hit by the bug where when I choose eth0 in ltsp-live, it jumps back to eth1 [19:08] highvoltage: make sure not to seed for more than 40GB from home or we'll hit the monthly quota... [19:09] stgraber: oh right, I guess I won't do that then :) [19:10] running a Chinese Edubuntu OEM install with LTSP, should have the results in 30 min [19:10] my french session is completely messed up... I'll retry on physical hardware... [19:11] highvoltage: ok :) [19:11] highvoltage: the chinese live session looks good here [19:11] testing LTSP live quickly [19:11] can't reproduce your drop-down bug [19:13] well, I guess we'll just continue testing for now, anything else for edubuntu meeting or shall we go back to #edubuntu? [19:13] ok then, adjourned! :) [20:00] gilir; meeting? [20:01] yes yes :) [20:01] #startmeeting Lubuntu Team Meeting [20:01] Meeting started Wed Apr 25 20:01:52 2012 UTC. The chair is gilir. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.ubuntu.com/meetingology. [20:01] Available commands: #accept #accepted #action #agree #agreed #chair #commands #endmeeting #endvote #halp #help #idea #info #link #lurk #meetingname #meetingtopic #nick #progress #rejected #replay #restrictlogs #save #startmeeting #subtopic #topic #unchair #undo #unlurk #vote #voters #votesrequired === meetingology changed the topic of #ubuntu-meeting to: Ubuntu Meeting Grounds | Calendar/Scheduled meetings: http://fridge.ubuntu.com/calendar | Logs: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MeetingLogs | Meetingology documentation: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/meetingology | Lubuntu Team Meeting Meeting | Current topic: [20:02] hi :) [20:02] sup [20:02] o/ [20:02] Agenda is still at the same place : https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Lubuntu/IRC%20Meetings/Agenda [20:03] \o [20:03] and this week, special focus on the last stuff to do before the release === bulldog98_ is now known as bulldog98 === decktrio is now known as ciaravero [20:03] join #U+1 [20:04] no action from the last meeting [20:04] let's move to the first topic [20:05] #topic kanliot - Weekly report - Update from QA meeting and team === meetingology changed the topic of #ubuntu-meeting to: Ubuntu Meeting Grounds | Calendar/Scheduled meetings: http://fridge.ubuntu.com/calendar | Logs: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MeetingLogs | Meetingology documentation: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/meetingology | Lubuntu Team Meeting Meeting | Current topic: kanliot - Weekly report - Update from QA meeting and team [20:05] hi [20:05] we still should be testing [20:05] also balloons asked for more testers for amd64 mac [20:05] and also wubi testers [20:05] end of report [20:06] to clarify: we still shoudl be testing means they are still releaseing ISOs [20:06] thanks kanliot, if the tests are specific to lubuntu or more generic ? [20:06] i donno [20:07] I think balloons requested for Ubuntu amd64 and wubi [20:07] But wubi wasn't well tested for Lubuntu as well [20:08] thanks chrisw [20:08] MrChrisDruif, as far as I know, it was tested at least once [20:08] gilir; true, Lance did [20:08] well, it's better than nothing :) [20:08] Indeed [20:09] ok, philiw also told me ISOs was good to go [20:10] unless we discover a big problem in the last tests, it should be ok now [20:10] kanliot, let me know if there is an emerengy tonight [20:10] not going to disagree with you but they are still producing more ISOs [20:11] k will do [20:11] ok, thanks kanliot, moving to next topic [20:12] #topic kanliot - Weekly report - Update from Comms team === meetingology changed the topic of #ubuntu-meeting to: Ubuntu Meeting Grounds | Calendar/Scheduled meetings: http://fridge.ubuntu.com/calendar | Logs: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MeetingLogs | Meetingology documentation: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/meetingology | Lubuntu Team Meeting Meeting | Current topic: kanliot - Weekly report - Update from Comms team [20:12] nothing to report [20:12] we resolved some code of curious origin that ended up on the website [20:12] that was all on the mailing list [20:12] end of report [20:13] ok thanks kanliot [20:13] #topic gilir - Weekly report - Update from Devs teams === meetingology changed the topic of #ubuntu-meeting to: Ubuntu Meeting Grounds | Calendar/Scheduled meetings: http://fridge.ubuntu.com/calendar | Logs: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MeetingLogs | Meetingology documentation: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/meetingology | Lubuntu Team Meeting Meeting | Current topic: gilir - Weekly report - Update from Devs teams [20:14] still preparing the work items for 12.10 [20:14] it should be more active next week, after the release :) [20:15] It does?> [20:15] any questions ? [20:16] MrChrisDruif, I don't like to prepare stuff for the next release, when the previous one is still not out :) [20:16] True [20:16] ...for devs ;-) [20:16] :) [20:17] no more question, so moving to the next topic [20:17] #topic MrChrisDruif - Weekly report - Update from Docs team === meetingology changed the topic of #ubuntu-meeting to: Ubuntu Meeting Grounds | Calendar/Scheduled meetings: http://fridge.ubuntu.com/calendar | Logs: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MeetingLogs | Meetingology documentation: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/meetingology | Lubuntu Team Meeting Meeting | Current topic: MrChrisDruif - Weekly report - Update from Docs team [20:18] Wiki should be ready for release. Only need to comment out the 12.04 specific stuff to "release" [20:18] great ! :) [20:19] are people from the wiki will be available tomorrow to update the links ? [20:19] what time will that be? [20:20] I'm "available" till about noon [20:20] kanliot, it depends on the availability of the ISOs [20:21] k [20:21] And remember "everyone" can edit the wiki pages, it is almost only uncommenting lines [20:21] Not release specific: I also want to add a big warning block above the header on [WIKI] for beginner to let them know more prominently that that is the team area and redirect them to [HELP] [20:21] Any objections? [20:22] According to the comms team it's not clear how to come to help.ubuntu.com/community/Lubuntu/HelpDocumentation so that is the reasoning behind it [20:22] Don't understand why this is needed [20:22] MrChrisDruif, is the link to Documentation & Help is not enough ? [20:23] According to the people who know how beginners think, it's not [20:23] It's all readable in the wiki-docs mailing archive [20:23] kanliot; you want to add to this? [20:24] no need to [20:24] good [20:24] Nothing else to report. [20:25] MrChrisDruif, could you send me the list of pages to update at release time ? [20:25] #action MrChrisDruif Send gilir list with pages to update for release [20:25] ACTION: MrChrisDruif Send gilir list with pages to update for release [20:26] I'll try to be available tomorrow to do the annoucement and to edit of the pages [20:26] Sure ^_^ [20:26] thanks :) [20:26] hey guys :-) [20:26] but don't wait next week to do it ;) [20:26] No? ^_^ [20:26] :) [20:27] I'll have a spot to send it Sunday, alright with you gilir ? [20:27] ;-) [20:27] don't play with my actual zen attitude ;) [20:28] any questions for the documentation ? [20:29] ok thanks MrChrisDruif :) [20:29] Well the usual about known bugs and which should be on the release notes? Are there workarounds that should be on FAQ? [20:29] it's next topic ;) [20:29] I know [20:29] #topic Yorvyk - Decide which problems (if any) should be in Known Issues section of Release Notes === meetingology changed the topic of #ubuntu-meeting to: Ubuntu Meeting Grounds | Calendar/Scheduled meetings: http://fridge.ubuntu.com/calendar | Logs: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MeetingLogs | Meetingology documentation: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/meetingology | Lubuntu Team Meeting Meeting | Current topic: Yorvyk - Decide which problems (if any) should be in Known Issues section of Release Notes [20:30] I already added the bug about gnome-mplayer and lxkeymap [20:31] Yorvyk, do you have other bugs in mind ? [20:31] Where are the release notes? I can't find them now [20:31] #link https://wiki.ubuntu.com/PrecisePangolin/ReleaseNotes/Lubuntu [20:32] anyone have comments about them ? [20:33] Isn't the 64 bit aptitude problem resolved [20:33] Ah, I started editing them...then my connection timed-out again. I'll do it again later tonight [20:34] Yorvyk, I think the common release notes section is not updated yet [20:34] Yorvyk: AFAIK it's better, but my no means perfect [20:34] OK [20:34] That was the only one that I'd seen any change on [20:35] Everything else looks OK [20:37] MrChrisDruif, what do you want to add ? [20:37] Just rewording some stuff, nothing to add [20:37] ok [20:38] if nobody have comments, we can remove the "TBA" items and keep it like this [20:38] except for corrections of style / typo / bad english ... :) [20:39] #topic Any Other Business === meetingology changed the topic of #ubuntu-meeting to: Ubuntu Meeting Grounds | Calendar/Scheduled meetings: http://fridge.ubuntu.com/calendar | Logs: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MeetingLogs | Meetingology documentation: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/meetingology | Lubuntu Team Meeting Meeting | Current topic: Any Other Business [20:40] anything to add ? [20:41] Lets hope everything goes smoothly tomorrow :) [20:41] ok, thanks, let's get some sleep before tomorrow :) [20:41] Yorvyk, yes :) [20:41] #endmeeting === meetingology changed the topic of #ubuntu-meeting to: Ubuntu Meeting Grounds | Calendar/Scheduled meetings: http://fridge.ubuntu.com/calendar | Logs: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MeetingLogs | Meetingology documentation: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/meetingology [20:41] Meeting ended Wed Apr 25 20:41:47 2012 UTC. [20:41] Minutes (wiki): http://ubottu.com/meetingology/logs/ubuntu-meeting/2012/ubuntu-meeting.2012-04-25-20.01.moin.txt [20:41] Minutes (html): http://ubottu.com/meetingology/logs/ubuntu-meeting/2012/ubuntu-meeting.2012-04-25-20.01.html [20:42] Thanks gilir ^_^ [20:42] Are we continuing these meetings or having time of over UDS [20:43] Yorvyk, I'll prefer to stop them untill UDS [20:43] Yorvyk, maybe you can ask on the mailing list ? [20:43] OK [20:44] thanks :) [20:44] OK bye all! === ronnoc_ is now known as ronnoc === davidcalle_ is now known as davidcalle [22:47] 9 minutes until the forum council meeting [22:57] ping coffeecat cariboo907 Iowan oldos2er [22:58] o/ [22:58] o/ [22:58] yo [22:58] jacob moergaes [22:58] yo-yo [22:58] :) [22:58] oi [22:58] I'm here, had to go refill my coffee cup [22:59] i am giving bodhi a few minutes, if he doesn't show in the next few minutes i am going to start the meeting without him [23:00] I think I have login messed up again, but this jaunty machine is due upgrade anyway... [23:01] jaunty? is that not EOL? [23:01] And bodhi_zazen makes 6 FC members :) [23:01] meeting start yet ? [23:01] that's why it's due upgrade [23:01] No, i was giving you a minute [23:01] lol [23:01] cariboo907 are you back from coffee? [23:01] yup [23:02] Okay, show time [23:02] #startmeeting [23:02] Meeting started Wed Apr 25 23:02:08 2012 UTC. The chair is s-fox. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.ubuntu.com/meetingology. [23:02] Available commands: #accept #accepted #action #agree #agreed #chair #commands #endmeeting #endvote #halp #help #idea #info #link #lurk #meetingname #meetingtopic #nick #progress #rejected #replay #restrictlogs #save #startmeeting #subtopic #topic #unchair #undo #unlurk #vote #voters #votesrequired [23:02] OK, anyone want to drive ? [23:02] I [23:02] [TOPIC] FC meeting === meetingology changed the topic of #ubuntu-meeting to: FC meeting [23:02] [link]https://wiki.ubuntu.com/ForumCouncilAgenda [23:03] I would like to make a few opening comments if I may ,promise they will be short =) [23:03] Okay bodhi_zazen, go [23:03] First, thank you all for coming [23:03] we are trying to get input from across the community [23:04] during the month, please use FH&F , #ubuntuforums, etc to discuss issues with staff / FC [23:04] these meeting are (hopefully) for decisions, with minimal discussion, discussion should have already taken place [23:05] /end [23:05] Well said and very good point made. [23:05] Okay, first item on the agenda... [23:06] [TOPIC] Archiving forums === meetingology changed the topic of #ubuntu-meeting to: Archiving forums [23:06] * bodhi_zazen hides [23:06] I think we forgot to discuss this topic [23:06] I know ;) [23:06] are this and the second topic the same? [23:06] We should make a proposal to the community, set some guidelines [23:06] no jacob [23:06] But the idea to archive out of date information is solid. [23:07] I agree on getting input from the wider community, just like we did for the tutorials [23:07] I suggest we make a concerted effort to discuss the topic over the next month [23:07] That sounds reasonable to me. [23:08] [VOTE] Make concerted effort to discuss archiving out of date information with wider community [23:08] Please vote on: Make concerted effort to discuss archiving out of date information with wider community [23:08] Public votes can be registered by saying +1, +0 or -1 in channel, (private votes don't work yet, but when they do it will be by messaging the channel followed by +1/-1/+0 to me) [23:08] +1 [23:08] +1 received from bodhi_zazen [23:08] +1 [23:08] +1 received from cariboo907 [23:08] +1 [23:08] +1 received from s-fox [23:08] +1 [23:08] +1 received from coffeecat [23:08] +1 [23:08] +1 received from Iowan [23:08] +1 [23:08] +1 received from jacob [23:08] [ENDVOTE] [23:08] Voting ended on: Make concerted effort to discuss archiving out of date information with wider community [23:08] Votes for:6 Votes against:0 Abstentions:0 [23:08] Motion carried [23:09] Bad jacob [23:09] ;) [23:09] :D [23:09] Okay, next item [23:09] [TOPIC] Close tutorial and tips and move to wiki === meetingology changed the topic of #ubuntu-meeting to: Close tutorial and tips and move to wiki [23:09] IMO closing T& T has gone fantastic [23:10] This appears to have started and the ball is rolling [23:10] I think there have been some (appropriate) concerns [23:10] but ... [23:10] we have connected people from forums to wiki and have interest from askubuntu [23:10] What are the main concerns ? [23:10] pixie has done outstanding work [23:10] people do not like change ;) [23:10] forestpiskie has been amazing [23:11] we need to encourage these efforts, and more important [23:11] engage the community to use and contribute to the wiki [23:11] I think the only real concern was the migration of tutorials, which seems to be going along smoothly [23:11] I seem to recall some sort of script helping with the markup [23:11] There was the concern if we closed the T&T, no one would contribute to wiki, and we would loose a valuable community asset [23:12] but, honestly, group effort on documentation is easier and it did not take long for the advantages to become obvious [23:12] I encourage all staff to encourage wiki as much as possible [23:12] I think the problem was the wiki was not very well advertised on the forums. if a link for T&T is made to the forums somehow, i think it'll be less of an issue. [23:12] By the looks of things it has evolved, and T&T section has been used for supporting specific wiki pages [23:12] s/forums/wiki/ [23:12] If people complain the page is out of date -> help encourage the community to maintain [23:12] +1 Jac [23:13] that is the plan s-fox , wiki is for documentation , T&T is to discuss documentation [23:13] there is an editor for editing wiki pages in the repositories called editmoin [23:13] should we add foo or bar to rootsudo ? [23:13] Okay, I am not really sure anything to vote on here. But well done to all and lets continue to ease the transtition [23:13] discussion -> change [23:14] no vote needed, just an update [23:14] and ask staff to promote the effort [23:14] [ACTION] Staff to promote wiki effort [23:14] ACTION: Staff to promote wiki effort [23:14] :) [23:14] If we get 10 people to edit 1 wiki page / month -> wiki will improve [23:15] Needs to be a sustained effort, not a burn out fast effort [23:15] Yes agreed [23:15] Lets move on [23:15] [TOPIC] Add new staff === meetingology changed the topic of #ubuntu-meeting to: Add new staff [23:15] OK, I'll say it [23:15] I think we should add 2-4 staff [23:16] I would like to try some sort of volunteer -> short list -> vote [23:16] I think we are coping, but we could do we a few more staffers. With a focus on asia / oz timezones [23:16] coping, yes, but too closed, IMO [23:16] even western north america, as at times I'm the only there [23:16] Anyone got any comments ? [23:17] we need to engage the community, not just "cope" [23:17] How much is need, versus rewarding active participants? [23:17] bodhi_zazen: can you explain "too closed"? [23:17] I really don't like the idea of volunteers [23:18] The staff is viewed as too closed, a select group selected by favoritism or cronyism [23:18] bodhi_zazen: thank you [23:18] people come and go, staff fall inactive, we need to train the next group [23:18] i'm not sure about volunteers either, but it might be worth a try. an experiment. [23:18] Volunteering was discussed in SCC. There were several objections. [23:18] Post criteria -> ask UFM to volunteer or nominate other UFM -> review candiates -> UFM vote [23:19] I think the major objection was that volunteers would not be reviewed [23:19] OMG - The entire forum council is here [23:19] was the criteria of requiring an active ubuntu membership to be one of them? [23:19] Hey overdrank [23:19] I could see UFM's nominate members for staff positions [23:19] oh wait, no ai [23:19] Hello all [23:20] nomination works for me [23:20] We need to "test the waters" [23:20] +1 to that [23:20] If we want to continue with the current staff selection, that is fine [23:20] Okay, well we are only looking to add a couple new staff so it is a good test to iron out the process [23:20] We need to be able to say , we tried .... and had ... problem ;) === EffenbergAway is now known as Effenberg0x0 [23:21] Or , perhaps it will be better [23:21] it's worth a shot if nothing else [23:21] [VOTE] Get UFM to nominate other UFM for staff poitions [23:21] Please vote on: Get UFM to nominate other UFM for staff poitions [23:21] Public votes can be registered by saying +1, +0 or -1 in channel, (private votes don't work yet, but when they do it will be by messaging the channel followed by +1/-1/+0 to me) [23:21] positions [23:21] +1 [23:21] +1 received from cariboo907 [23:21] and perhaps encourage UFM -> join u+1 or wiki team [23:21] positions [23:21] +1 [23:21] +1 received from bodhi_zazen [23:21] +1 [23:21] +1 received from s-fox [23:21] +1 [23:21] +1 [23:21] +1 received from Iowan [23:21] +1 received from overdrank [23:21] +1 [23:21] +1 received from s-fox [23:21] Gah [23:21] CLarification please. [23:22] I am suggesting we need to encourage the Ubuntu forums community to participate and contribute beyond the forums [23:22] Silly tablet scroll issue >.< [23:22] Forums is the entry, identify the good, the bad, and the ugly -> get them involved =) [23:22] go coffeecat [23:23] I haven't voted yet. "UFM to nominate OTHER UFM"?? [23:23] Ubuntu Forums Members [23:23] Ubuntu forum members UFM [23:23] coffeecat for staff positions [23:23] No - I know what UFM are . OTHER?? [23:23] https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Forums/Membership [23:24] UFM nominate from the list of UFMs [23:24] forum members nominate other forum members [23:24] for staff positions [23:24] Yes - OTHER - not themselves? [23:24] for staff positions [23:24]