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jkylewhat's your error?00:01
qhartmanthat's an excellent question, this erlang stuff is pretty inscrutable00:01
qhartman<- digging through logs now00:01
qhartmanI thought at first that it miht be a hostname thing like https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/rabbitmq-server/+bug/65340500:03
uvirtbotLaunchpad bug 653405 in rabbitmq-server "rabbitmq-server fails to start if hostname is unresolvable or has changed since first starting" [Undecided,Confirmed]00:03
qhartmanthe symptoms are all the same00:03
qhartmanbut I haven't monkied with the hostname00:04
qhartmanand resetting it to the apparently required "localhost" doesn't seem to help00:04
qhartmanI guess it could still be the problem, EC2 name resolution is notoriously weird00:06
qhartmanI'm sure erlang is neat and all, but having to learn yet another language just to figure out how to troubleshoot my chef-server installation is a bit annoying...00:08
qhartmaninteresting. If I nuke the existing (suppoedly empty) datadir it starts right up00:12
qhartmanalright, well that seems to have gotten around the problem00:21
jkyleso, I keep getting this warning on preseed installs that say I must create a "Reserved BIOS boot area".00:33
jkylebut I cannot find a single reference on how to create this in a preseed file. it's only needed for gpt parts and the preseed also ignores specifying other partition lables, such as msdos00:33
qhartmanis this useful: http://jasonschaefer.com/archives/19000:35
qhartmanI haven't used preseeds in a long time, but if you could setup the partitioning as described there, it seems like you would be good to go00:35
qhartmanI wouldn't be surprised though if the preseed stuff hasn't had the bits needed to fully support gpt put in yet00:37
jkyleyeah, that's manual though00:48
jkylewhat I need to figure out is how to create a partition like that in partman00:48
jkyleor how to get partman to use a msdos label00:48
delinquentmeif [ `python2.7 -V` == "python 2.7" ] ;then  echo "true"; fi00:49
delinquentmeI want to test the command "python2.7 -V" to see if it returns "python 2.7"00:49
delinquentmehow can I do this00:49
jkylethat looks fairly close00:50
delinquentmesimpler; $V=`python2.7 -V`00:59
delinquentmeHow do I store the string which is returned on running that00:59
delinquentmein $V00:59
delinquentmeright now it says = is not found00:59
jkylev=`foo`, you ought to check out a beginners shell scripting guide01:00
delinquentmeyeah but then echo $v01:03
delinquentmeprints out nothing01:04
patdk-lapheh01:04
delinquentmesorry01:07
delinquentmeits just if I read the manual for every programming language I ever wanted to use01:07
delinquentmewell01:07
delinquentmeyeah i think you know how that would end01:07
patdk-lapyou would be me?01:08
qhartmantry quoting the backticks01:08
qhartmanif [ "`python2.7 -V`" == "python 2.7" ] ;then  echo "true"; fi01:09
patdk-lapc, c++, c#, several asm, fortran, forth, perl, php, lisp, pascal01:09
patdk-lapI think that list is getting shorter as I get older, memory loss :(01:09
qhartmanthough that will theoretically always be a 2.7.x binary though01:09
delinquentmesmarter way to check if python 2.7 is installed?01:10
patdk-lapuse whereis01:10
delinquentmeno good as it gives output for both python2.6 and python2.701:14
Laiceanyone any good with ISPConfig?01:40
delinquentmeif I'd like a variable which returns the particular OS name for any POSIX system...02:15
delinquentmewhat would that var be?02:15
delinquentmeor what would i used to return "ubuntu 10.04"02:18
ihashackswell, in LSB Linux distributions you can use "lsb_release -d"02:33
linociscohow to install vbox guestaddtion on ubuntu ?02:35
brainysmurfIs it possible to have a folder in /var/www/ that symlinks to somewhere else and still be accessible to http?02:43
brainysmurfdoes netstat show you outgoing and incoming ports? or am i confused?03:35
RamJettbrainysmurf: not sure if you are confused, but yeah netstat -a even better03:40
brainysmurfRamJett even better as in more info than just incoming and outgoing?03:40
brainysmurfI'm trying to sort out if my connections are being refused due to something on my server or the firewall03:41
RamJettlots of LISTEN too .. -a is suppose to be (all) is a alias for --all03:43
brainysmurfi'm an idiot, what does listen mean :)03:48
RamJettnetstat won't show any firewall rules. Do something like "iptables -vL" or "iptables -vvL" for even more info03:48
linociscohow to install vbox guestaddtion on ubuntu ?03:53
linociscohow to install vbox guestaddtion on ubuntu ?03:53
JoeCoderin ubuntu 10.04, I installed postfix-tls, but this package is missing in 12.0403:56
JoeCoderhow do I figure out if packagse have been renamed?03:56
RamJettbrainysmurf: LISTEN show ports and IP listening. Like if you have a local imap server running you would see something like this " tcp    ip.xx.xx.xx.xx:port       0.0.0.0:*   LISTEN .. but if iptables of firewall type rules are blocking it. It will still be LISTEN .. the rule would just block it on the INPUT03:58
brainysmurfRamJett thanks for that i'm currently trying to figure out what my firewall rule is just for smtp03:59
RamJettWho's router? Most many ISPs block 25 to end users. They want you to use their smtp04:02
brainysmurfRamJett I know but my sysadmin insists that isp nor school firewall isn't doing that; I need to prove it04:03
JonEdneyHey, anyone able to troubleshoot a mailserver issue?04:04
RamJettbrainysmurf: So are you trying to have box run a smtp engine .. You should see "tcp        0      0 0.0.0.0:25              0.0.0.0:*               LISTEN" on the box04:06
brainysmurfRamJett: Yes, I am trying to run smtp engine and have that line on the box04:08
brainysmurfMail comes in fine but mail does not go out04:08
brainysmurfpostfix reports connection refused and telnet does the same04:08
brainysmurfMail does not go out to machines outside of school, but does go out to machines inside of school04:10
RamJettbrainysmurf: What box is refusing outside? It might be refusing for other reasons. Like IP reverse lookup. Not sure what your setup is.04:13
brainysmurfIP reverse lookup is setup: student.ssis-suzhou.net04:14
brainysmurfSo far I havne't found a box that doesn't reject :)04:16
RamJettSo YOUR postfix is reporting "connection refused" ?04:16
brainysmurfyes, mine04:17
brainysmurfas well as when I telnet04:17
brainysmurf"telnet: Unable to connect to remote host: Connection refused"04:17
RamJetttelnet FROM outside to your postfix to outside smtp ?04:18
RamJettthat is "or outside"04:19
brainysmurfthat error happens from the server trying to connect to outside smtp04:19
RamJettLike from your smtp server box. If you do "telnet mail.ramnic.com 25" .. what do you get?04:21
brainysmurf"Trying 69.178.157.231...04:21
brainysmurftelnet: Unable to connect to remote host: Connection refused04:21
RamJetttry one more time. I'll let you know if it hits04:22
brainysmurfokay i just tried04:22
brainysmurfand again04:22
RamJettIt never gets to ramnic.com port 25. I would see it04:23
brainysmurfSo it's a firewall issue04:23
brainysmurf?04:23
RamJettso it is on the router outbound port 25 from your host. You know your host isn't blocking if it sends to local boxes04:24
brainysmurfAh, that's a good point04:25
brainysmurfYou're a king04:25
RamJettFor sure not. I'm still hanging out here hoping some picks up on my question. Been waiting all day. I was told to be patient. So I'm trying.04:30
ChmEarlhurray - no more devel version: DISTRIB_DESCRIPTION="Ubuntu 12.04 LTS"04:55
RoyKerm - I thought release was tomorrow...04:58
RoyKChmEarl: file a bug ;)04:59
ChmEarlLOL - I updated from mirrors.kernel.org too04:59
___MAXhi , i am using sakis3g for internet connection but after using apt-get auto remove it ask for chat dependency , so how can i get this dependency or package05:02
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koolhead17morning all05:22
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railsraideranyone knows how to properlyy configure the server for redis so redis won't crash or get killed by oomkiller?07:29
koolhead17railsraider, trying will  #redis be helpful as well07:38
railsraideri tried no one answered in half an hour07:39
rbasakrailsraider: I know nothing about redis. But I do know that you can mess at the kernel end with /proc/.../oom*. Maybe googling for these and redis would help? Although ideally redis would be configured to not need this tuning, and I don't know how to do that or if it's possible.07:40
railsraiderthanks rbasak: my swap is disabled this might be the cause for these issues07:41
railsraideris there a way to tell redis not to use the swap unless out of RAM?07:41
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Gallomimiahi i'm trying to install a downloaded .deb but it is telling me a great many dependancies exist. it won't install these dependancies for me however. how do i make it do that? i asked in not-server channel and they said use software center. servers don't have that :)08:28
Jeeves_Gallomimia: Is it saying 'but is not going to be installed'08:33
Jeeves_Or is it saying 'cannot be installed'08:33
greppyGallomimia: sudo apt-get -f install08:34
greppyGallomimia: see if that grabs what is needed.08:34
Jeeves_greppy: That usually removes the package that you want to install08:34
rbasakGallomimia: I would avoid what you're doing if at all possible. Not using a repository is a sure route to a broken system.08:35
GallomimiaJeeves_: it's saying not08:35
greppyJeeves_: when dealing with dependancies, I usually see that install all the dependcies, after a failed dpkg -i $foo.deb08:35
Gallomimianot going to be installed08:35
Gallomimiaand not "can't08:35
rbasak(as well as a security risk)08:35
Jeeves_rbasak: That's BS :)08:36
greppyGallomimia: pastebin the output?08:36
Jeeves_Gallomimia: ok, you can try -f install.08:36
Gallomimiai downloaded it from a rather trustworthy site with an SSL cert08:36
Gallomimiathe package might even be avail on sources08:36
Jeeves_But also, installing the packages that it needs manually is fine too08:36
Gallomimiai dont know. it's folding at home fyi08:36
rbasakDoes the trustworthy site not provide an apt repository?08:36
Gallomimiai don't even know08:36
rbasakJeeves_: and what about security updates?08:36
Gallomimiasecurity updates should be downloaded from anonymous08:37
ogra_rbasak, who is doing the release image testing for armadaxp ? there are no test results for the images on the isotracker at all08:37
rbasakogra_: nfi. I didn't even know that the iso tracker covered it.08:37
ogra_(we usually dont release untested images, would be good if someone could test them ;) )08:37
Gallomimiahttp://pastebin.com/4kQZzsQv08:38
Jeeves_rbasak: You should monitor those, if you install stuff manually08:38
Gallomimiaso i asked aptitude to install one of these things and it offered to remove 89 other packages08:39
Gallomimiagreat. i guess i just don't know jack about the finer points of apt08:40
Jeeves_Gallomimia: Probably, one of the packages creates that issue08:41
rbasakGallomimia: sorry you're having trouble. It's not really expected for users to mess with .debs manually. That's what apt is for - it's supposed to be pointed at a repository and work everything out. If your third party doesn't provide one, you need to know about packaging internals (ie. dpkg).08:42
Gallomimiaan issue that needs to be resolved by deleting 89 software packages? sure they're not needed for some other things we installed 2 weeks ago08:42
Gallomimiarbasak: i'm not too worried about the deeper packaging internals. it tells me the two packages in my pastebin are dependant, which are in turn dependant on a lot of other stuff. install those two and make the shell stop whining at me please.08:43
rbasakGallomimia: try purging your third party package, which may make your package state consistent again. Then install the dependencies you know about using apt. Then dpkg -i the third party package again. The problem is that by using dpkg -i apt is missing the full story about what you want.08:44
rbasakogra_: I can't find armadaxp in the iso tracker. Do you have a link?08:45
Gallomimiarbasak: i think all of this can be avoided. i think this package is in standard repositories08:45
ogra_rbasak, http://iso.qa.ubuntu.com/qatracker/milestones/214/builds in the netboot area08:45
rbasakogra_: I can grab a board and run that test, but the step-by-step instructions are entirely wrong (panda-specific) so I'll have to be inventive. Which isn't a problem for me, but might be for the validity of any test.08:48
ogra_rbasak, well, someone of the arm server QA team should have added some proper tests (massimo) for that specific board, seems that didnt happen08:49
Gallomimiai.... think it's installed. but it appears i'm still sofa king lost.08:49
* ogra_ proposes the arm server QA team should have a beer with the release manager in SF :) 08:50
ogra_to plan for Q08:50
lynxman-morning o/08:57
railsraideri need to enable swap again on a machine that it was disabled how do i do that on 10.04 LTS?09:05
ogra_make sure you have a line for it in fstab ...09:07
ogra_then: sudo swapon -a09:07
lynxman-jamespage: ping, about bug #986973 after talking with upstream they reckon it's not worth fixing as of yet and recommend to wait to facter 2.0.0, but can't change the status to "won't fix" with my permissions...09:07
uvirtbotLaunchpad bug 986973 in facter "Facter bug causes puppet to become a zombie" [Medium,Triaged] https://launchpad.net/bugs/98697309:07
railsraideri have this line ogra_ : /dev/sda2       none        swap    sw          0 009:11
* koolhead17 pokes lynxman- :)09:11
railsraiderwhen i try to swap on it fails:09:11
railsraiderswapon: /dev/sda2: stat failed: No such file or directory09:11
ogra_you should instead use the UUID there09:11
railsraiderhow do i find the uuid?09:11
ogra_use: sudo blkid /path/to/device09:12
ogra_ogra@horus:~$ grep swap /etc/fstab09:12
ogra_UUID=2634be76-0cc2-443f-a629-4604a5d09b6dnoneswapdefaults0009:12
ogra_thats how such an entry should look like09:12
ogra_(with the right UUID indeed)09:12
railsraideri don't have that line09:13
railsraideri miss the uuid09:13
railsraiderhow do i create that?09:13
greppyrailsraider: blkid09:13
railsraiderok09:13
railsraideri did sudo blkid /dev/sda209:15
railsraiderthere's no uuid in /etc/fstab09:15
railsraiderwhat am in doing wriong09:15
greppyblkid /dev/sda2 would just give you the UUID for that device.09:16
greppyyou then need to edit /etc/fstab09:16
jamespagelynxman-, so its not really that much of an issue?09:16
lynxman-jamespage: it really looks like, in my opinion not worth going through a SRU09:16
* lynxman- waves koolhead17 09:17
jamespagelynxman-, OK - I'll do the bits then...09:17
lynxman-jamespage: thanks09:17
koolhead17lynxman-, 1 day to go. :D09:17
jamespagelynxman-, guess thats probably been in the codebase for a while :-)09:19
railsraidergreppy: that command didn't output anything09:19
greppyrailsraider: what does 'ls -l /dev/disk/by-uuid/' give you?  pastebin it?09:20
lynxman-jamespage: it's a marginal problem as well, which can carry some regression issues, that's why it has been targeted for 2.0.009:20
jamespagelynxman-, makes sense09:21
railsraidergreppy: http://pastebin.com/haqU0Kjb09:22
greppyrailsraider: you don't have a /dev/sda209:23
Davieyivoks: around?09:29
railsraidergreppy: i disabled swap on that machine long time ago and now i need it back09:30
railsraidermaybe its in /proc?09:31
greppyrailsraider: check your disk, make sure that it has a swap partition.09:31
railsraidergreppy:  how do i add the swap manually ?09:37
railsraideri have sdc1 which is 16GB09:37
railsraideri have the  uuid from it09:37
greppyrailsraider: you want to use sdc1 as your swap?09:37
railsraideryes09:37
railsraideri think that used to be the old swap09:38
greppyrailsraider: mine looks like this09:38
greppyUUID=0ae26ab8-0a8c-47c5-aa8a-6582eec84a1d none            swap    sw              0       009:38
greppychange the UUID=... to match your UUID for sdc109:38
railsraideris this in /etc/fstab?09:38
greppyyes09:39
ivoksDaviey: yes09:40
Davieyivoks: is bug 927594 still accurate ?09:41
uvirtbotLaunchpad bug 927594 in openstack-dashboard "local_settings.py is in /etc, but wsgi is including it from other location" [Undecided,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/92759409:41
ivoksDaviey: i don't think so...09:41
Davieyivoks:  it looks fixed, but wanted to check09:42
ivoksDaviey: i need to check it, give a minute09:42
Daviey$ ls -alh /etc/openstack-dashboard/local_settings.py09:42
Daviey-rw-r--r-- 1 root root 4.2K Apr 23 09:28 /etc/openstack-dashboard/local_settings.py09:42
ivokshow about /usr/share/openstack-dashboard/local/local_settings.py09:42
Davieydammit, no09:43
ivoksbut that's not a problem anymore, i believe09:43
ivokscloud-live works without that link :)09:43
ivokslet's install it :)09:44
Davieylocal_settings.py -> /etc/openstack-dashboard/local_settings.py .. aha!09:44
Daviey/usr/share/openstack-dashboard/openstack_dashboard/local/local_settings.py .. it is fixed!09:45
Davieythanks09:45
ivoksok then09:45
Davieyivoks: are you doing the memcache fix in cloud-live09:46
Daviey?09:46
ivokssed -i "s|CACHE_BACKEND.*|CACHE_BACKEND = 'memcached://127.0.0.1:11211/'|g" /etc/openstack-dashboard/local_settings.py09:46
ivoksyes09:46
railsraiderthanks greppy !09:47
greppyrailsraider: so that worked for you?09:50
railsraideri think so09:51
greppycool09:52
Davieyivoks: looking to put http://pb.daviey.com/qKej/ in precise.. happy with that?10:05
ivoksDaviey: well, if you must... i'll update cloud-live then10:16
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samuel_hello all, whoever helped me yesterday - thanks!10:21
samuel_i have a query regarding the organisation of users and groups however10:21
samuel_i have inherited a server (ie not setup by myself) and it appears the group permissions are a bit of a mess10:21
samuel_it seems that when users create files or folders in the shared area's on the server, other users cannot read or edit them, as each users has his/her own group which is the same as the username10:22
samuel_is this right?? i have to keep changing the ownership to something more neutral so that filesharing can resume, its very annoying! i have read through the documentation but i'm not 100% sure on the best way to resolve this, can anyone offer advice? thanks in advance!10:23
ivokssamuel_: if this is samba, look at force user and force group10:26
ivokssamuel_: if it's NFS or some other native linux protocol, look at acl10:27
ivoksacl and umask10:27
Davieyivoks: it won't break cloud-live, as it'll override existing values :)10:27
rbasaksamuel_: I think you want the sgid bit. Take a look at http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Setuid#setuid_and_setgid_on_directories10:28
Davieyivoks: really.. carrying what should be patches in cloud-live isn't ideal, right? :)10:28
samuel_hi, sorry i did not give specifics, i'm using ubuntu server 10.04, sharing files with windows and linux users. it appears that each user belongs to a group that is the same as the username, and when they create a file, it is owned by them, and other users are unable to view them10:28
ivoksDaviey: i don't consider it a patch... it's more usecase scenario10:29
samuel_while each user is a member of a common group, the common group is not used for ownership when files are created10:29
samuel_i will check out the link posted and read up on acl, thanks for throwing a bone! :D10:30
rbasaksamuel_: yeah the sgid bit will do what you need10:30
ivokssamuel_: acl (getfacl/setfacl) and force user and force group in samba are answers to your questions10:30
ivoksi can just assume you are talking about samba10:30
rbasakivoks: that would work, but sgid is simpler and the more universal to this problem.10:30
rbasak*more universal answer10:30
ivoksah, right...10:31
Davieyivoks: well the current horizon seems to log people out very regular, which is sucky.. we need to use memcache.10:31
samuel_well the files are being added and edited using either nautilus or windows explorer (in the case of the windows users)10:31
ivokssamuel_: that's irrelevant... what's relevant is what service is sharing those files10:31
samuel_ok, thanks for the advice10:34
samuel_its samba fyi10:34
ivoksthen you can use sgid, as rbasak told you, or force user and force group in smb.conf; it really depends on what you want10:35
samuel_ok i will look into both and decide which is best, thanks!10:45
linociscoalamar, hi11:12
robinHello I need to bridge eth0 and eth1 to allow internet on server2 through server 1, I know how to do that but I have to assign 4 ips to server 1 and 6 to server 2,  Do I alias the bridges and repeat?11:20
rbasakrobin: just add multiple addresses to the bridge interface. That should work fine.11:26
robinrbasak how do I do that ?11:26
robinrbasak as you can only add one address per iface... so do I alias and make like 4 bridges ? that doesnt seem right11:27
rbasakrobin: just add "up ip addr add 1.2.3.4 dev br0" to your br0 line for each extra IP.11:28
rbasakrobin: that's what I do anyway. I don't know if there's a better way.11:28
rbasakrobin: no need for extra bridges11:29
rbasak*to your br0 stanza11:29
robinrbasak thanks for helping what is the dev tag for ?  pastie of my interfaces http://pastebin.com/cMXkJvpT11:37
novatohola11:39
sanderjHi. Do anyone know about if it's possible to use ssd disks as cache for harddrives?12:00
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rbasaksanderj: you might be interested in http://bcache.evilpiepirate.org/ although it looks like it's not production-ready - you'd need to be a developer to try it.12:12
sanderjrbasak, thanks :-)12:15
zulgood morning12:33
lynxman-zul: morning! :)12:34
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samuel_thanks to all that helped me earlier! i used the setgid just for the shared area and its working fine now13:14
rbasaksamuel_: \o/13:17
samuel_altering the samba.conf is not something i wanted to do on a server that is in constant use, but i will remember that for future13:19
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mattton a stock install (say 11.04), is there anything outside of openssh-server's post install that creates ssh host keys?14:02
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halvorsI have some network issues here.14:58
halvorsHow do i release an ipv6 address?14:58
pmatulisj launchpad-ops15:11
claude2does anyone here understand why nagios-nrpe-server wants to install mysql?15:28
Piciclaude2: it shouldn't... let me take a look here15:33
claude2mysql-common comes up in the additional packages15:34
SpamapSclaude2: mysql-common is needed for libmysqlclient15:44
SpamapSclaude2: it needs /etc/mysql/my.cnf15:44
SpamapSPici: ^^15:44
claude2ohh to check the status of a mysql server?15:45
SpamapSprecisely15:45
Piciclaude2: Aye, I was just going to say that nagios-plugins-standard recommends libmysqlclient1615:45
claude2ohh ok. well that's not the end of the world i guess15:45
claude2thanks guys!15:46
Piciclaude2: You could choose not to install recommends if you prefer.15:46
SpamapSclaude2: consider not installing with recommends on servers.. sometimes it can be a bit overkill :)15:46
claude2ohh interesting. there is a lot in there, and we are trying to keep these machines minimal15:46
claude2ill give that a try15:46
* Pici hits apt-repends with a stick a few times15:48
three18tianyone got MAAS working?  I keep checking the wiki but it just says "when we have a working avahi live cd".16:00
rocketsSomebody please kill me: https://gist.github.com/249103616:21
uvirtbotNew bug: #975464 in maas "document that nodes are brought up without security groups or firewall rules" [High,Triaged] https://launchpad.net/bugs/97546416:29
uvirtbotNew bug: #975472 in maas "add high level design document(s)" [High,Triaged] https://launchpad.net/bugs/97547216:29
uvirtbotNew bug: #988301 in lxc (universe) "lxc-ubuntu fails if no name is provided" [Undecided,Won't fix] https://launchpad.net/bugs/98830116:29
uvirtbotNew bug: #988325 in mysql-dfsg-5.0 (universe) "mysql-server should not stop mysql service" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/98832516:29
uvirtbotNew bug: #988374 in bridge-utils (main) "brctl setportprio fails silently" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/98837416:29
uvirtbotNew bug: #988397 in autofs5 (main) "Autofs does not clean up /proc/mounts when stopped" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/98839716:29
uvirtbotNew bug: #927594 in horizon (main) "local_settings.py is in /etc, but wsgi is including it from other location" [Undecided,Fix released] https://launchpad.net/bugs/92759416:30
uvirtbotNew bug: #988173 in maas (main) "maas-import-isos fails" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/98817316:31
uvirtbotNew bug: #988030 in mysql-dfsg-5.1 (main) "package libmysqlclient16 5.1.62-0ubuntu0.10.04.1 failed to install/upgrade: corrupted filesystem tarfile - corrupted package archive (dup-of: 773172)" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/98803016:32
uvirtbotNew bug: #988043 in nmap (main) "nmap has no debian/watch file" [Undecided,In progress] https://launchpad.net/bugs/98804316:32
uvirtbotNew bug: #988070 in mcollective (universe) "Startup script boots several instances of mcollective (dup-of: 918348)" [Undecided,Invalid] https://launchpad.net/bugs/98807016:32
uvirtbotNew bug: #987535 in horizon (universe) "Javascript under /static/horizon isn't served" [Undecided,Fix released] https://launchpad.net/bugs/98753516:33
uvirtbotNew bug: #987770 in lxc (universe) "lxc-start: wrong terminal size" [Wishlist,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/98777016:33
uvirtbotNew bug: #987930 in juju "MAAS provider - Failure to bootstrap when no port is specified for maas-server" [Undecided,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/98793016:33
uvirtbotNew bug: #987939 in gwt (universe) "Please remove GWT from Precise" [High,Fix released] https://launchpad.net/bugs/98793916:33
uvirtbotNew bug: #974613 in glance "Glance database issues after upgrade :  1054, "Unknown column 'images.protected' in 'field list'"" [High,Invalid] https://launchpad.net/bugs/97461316:34
uvirtbotNew bug: #987772 in asterisk (universe) "[FFe] Update to asterisk 1.8.10.1 for security fixes" [Undecided,Fix released] https://launchpad.net/bugs/98777216:34
uvirtbotNew bug: #971318 in maas-enlist (main) "Unable to create MAAS server from the Precise beta 2 CD" [Undecided,Fix released] https://launchpad.net/bugs/97131816:35
uvirtbotNew bug: #987293 in maas-provision (universe) "wrong file specified to dh_apparmor" [High,Fix released] https://launchpad.net/bugs/98729316:35
uvirtbotNew bug: #987714 in lm-sensors (main) "package libsensors4 1:3.3.1-2ubuntu1 failed to install/upgrade: conffile './etc/sensors.d/.placeholder' is not in sync with other instances of the same package" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/98771416:35
uvirtbotNew bug: #987752 in bacula (main) "package bacula-fd (not installed) failed to install/upgrade: a tentar sobre-escrever '/usr/share/man/man8/bacula-fd.8.gz', que também está no pacote bacula-client 5.0.2" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/98775216:35
Picibugs :(16:36
uvirtbotNew bug: #986056 in clamav (main) "no freshclam,internal logger error" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/98605616:36
uvirtbotNew bug: #987265 in maas-provision (universe) "apparmor profile is disabled on install, but should be enabled" [High,Fix released] https://launchpad.net/bugs/98726516:36
uvirtbotNew bug: #987374 in maas-provision (universe) "apparmor denials when using 'maas-import-isos'" [High,Fix released] https://launchpad.net/bugs/98737416:36
uvirtbotNew bug: #791758 in dovecot (main) "CVE-2011-1929 and Dovecot 1.0.10-1ubuntu5.2 in Hardy" [High,Invalid] https://launchpad.net/bugs/79175816:37
uvirtbotNew bug: #978999 in cobbler (main) "command injection on the host via the xmlrpc api" [Undecided,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/97899916:38
uvirtbotNew bug: #979159 in quantum (universe) "Several installation error issues" [High,Fix released] https://launchpad.net/bugs/97915916:38
uvirtbotNew bug: #987371 in linux (main) "unconfined containers are not starting" [Undecided,Fix committed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/98737116:38
uvirtbotNew bug: #987426 in samba (main) "package samba 2:3.5.8~dfsg-1ubuntu2.4 failed to install/upgrade: subprocess installed post-installation script returned error exit status 1" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/98742616:39
uvirtbotNew bug: #979190 in quantum (universe) "Missing upstart scripts" [High,Fix released] https://launchpad.net/bugs/97919016:40
uvirtbotNew bug: #979192 in quantum (universe) "FFE: Separate agent binaries in different packages" [Medium,Fix released] https://launchpad.net/bugs/97919216:40
uvirtbotNew bug: #980915 in maas "/var/log/maas/maas.log has weird permissions" [Low,Fix released] https://launchpad.net/bugs/98091516:40
uvirtbotNew bug: #980970 in maas (main) "We should be able to reconfigure the MAAS DEFAULT_URL easily" [Critical,Fix released] https://launchpad.net/bugs/98097016:40
uvirtbotNew bug: #981103 in maas (main) "ProtocolError on node.save in maas shell" [Critical,Fix released] https://launchpad.net/bugs/98110316:40
uvirtbotNew bug: #981282 in maas (main) "Upgrade fails if services are not running" [Critical,Fix released] https://launchpad.net/bugs/98128216:40
uvirtbotNew bug: #984427 in maas (main) "pserv.yaml misses to enclose in quotes Cobbler's password" [Low,Fix released] https://launchpad.net/bugs/98442716:40
uvirtbotNew bug: #987267 in ntp (main) "package ntp 1:4.2.6.p3+dfsg-1ubuntu3 failed to install/upgrade: ErrorMessage: subprocess installed post-installation script returned error exit status 1" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/98726716:40
uvirtbotNew bug: #975442 in maas-provision (universe) "add apparmor profile for cobblerd" [High,Fix released] https://launchpad.net/bugs/97544216:41
uvirtbotNew bug: #981478 in maas (main) "Need 'ethtool' package included in preseeds for WOL" [Medium,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/98147816:41
uvirtbotNew bug: #984309 in maas (main) "DEFAULT_MAAS_URL is lost on package upgrade" [Critical,Fix released] https://launchpad.net/bugs/98430916:41
uvirtbotNew bug: #985094 in maas-provision (universe) "please don't ship /usr/sbin/tftpd" [Medium,Fix released] https://launchpad.net/bugs/98509416:41
uvirtbotNew bug: #986943 in quantum (universe) "package quantum-common (not installed) failed to install/upgrade: subprocess installed post-installation script returned error exit status 1 (dup-of: 979159)" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/98694316:41
uvirtbotNew bug: #987207 in puppet (main) "Puppetmaster-passenger will not start after reinstalling due to libapache2-mod-passenger" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/98720716:41
jamespageodd - somethings catching up16:42
uvirtbotNew bug: #975454 in maas "complete documentation and man pages" [High,Triaged] https://launchpad.net/bugs/97545416:42
uvirtbotNew bug: #987120 in samba (main) "package samba-common-bin 2:3.5.8~dfsg-1ubuntu2.4 failed to install/upgrade: le sous-processus script post-installation installé a retourné une erreur de sortie d'état 2" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/98712016:42
uvirtbotNew bug: #975462 in maas "add ability to use over https" [High,Triaged] https://launchpad.net/bugs/97546216:43
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kirklandSpamapS: ping16:50
kirklandSpamapS: when developing an upstart job / init script, and wanting to try and maintain compatibility of the package with both Debian and Ubuntu16:50
kirklandSpamapS: are there any best practices?16:51
kirklandSpamapS: ie, do I just need to write both, an upstart job and a sysvinit script?16:51
SpamapSkirkland: unfortunately, yes. :-P16:51
SpamapSkirkland: even as Debian grows upstart support, you'll still have to support the LCD which is sysvinit16:52
kirklandSpamapS: okay, and what about the debian/rules, to decide whether to install the upstart or sysvinit job?16:52
SpamapSkirkland: we were goign to try and fix dh_installinit in wheezy to support having both in a package dir, and just installing them happily to coexist... but that didn't happen...16:53
SpamapSkirkland: so for now, you just have to do conditional "is this ubuntu, yes, cp debian/upstart.in debian/upstart" logic16:53
kirklandSpamapS: yuck16:53
SpamapSI know16:53
kirklandSpamapS: okay, is there a package example you can suggest?16:54
SpamapSI think we could probably build that into dh_installinit .. actually thats not a bad idea.16:54
kirklandSpamapS: yeah, ideally, at dpkg --install time16:54
SpamapSkirkland: hrm.. none off the top of my head.16:54
SpamapSzookeeper maybe16:54
zulnova16:54
SpamapSnova is in sync with Debian?!16:54
kirklandSpamapS: it would figure out if upstart is on the system16:55
kirklandSpamapS: and if so, do upstart install16:55
kirklandSpamapS: if not, do legacy install16:55
SpamapSkirkland: you'd have to use triggers for that so it fixes things when you install upstart after the jobs, but yeah, that would work.16:55
kirklandSpamapS: right16:55
zulSpamapS: most of it16:55
zulSpamapS: but we use the same upstart/init script logic you were talking about16:56
kirklandzul: cool, thanks16:56
kirklandzul: I'll have a look16:56
SpamapSzookeeper also does it very nicely16:59
SpamapSand is in sync w/ Debian16:59
* SpamapS ^5's jamespage16:59
SpamapS    if dpkg-vendor --derives-from ubuntu ; then \17:00
SpamapS        cp debian/zookeeperd.upstart.in debian/zookeeperd.upstart ; \17:00
SpamapSpretty simple17:00
* koolhead17 wants to jump from his chair out of frustration :(17:02
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kirklandSpamapS: that's nice, cool, thanks17:09
kirklandSpamapS: one more packaging question for you, this time python17:10
kirklandSpamapS: I have a package that works well with python2.6 and above, but it's not very happy at all when python2.5 is installed on the system17:10
kirklandSpamapS: any other packages having this issue?  what are packagers doing about it?17:10
uvirtbotNew bug: #988421 in nagios-plugins (main) "nagios3 check_load produces no output" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/98842117:11
kirklandSpamapS: just using a conflicts << 2.6?17:11
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SpamapSkirkland: errr.. why would it matter what was on the system, what matters is what is set to default, no?17:13
kirklandSpamapS: well that's what I thought, but in practice, I'm seeing some strange behavior17:14
hallynstgraber: would you agree that lxc-init should be in /bin or /sbin, not /usr/lib/lxc ?17:14
kirklandSpamapS: tell me this, can I require one to be the default, within my package?17:14
hallynstgarber: it's an issue if we switch lxc to be multiarched (as debian does)17:15
SpamapSkirkland: I don't think so, but thats beyond my knowledge. You can just explicitly call the interpreter with the highest version available though.17:15
SpamapSkirkland: nothing from 2.5 is going to interfere if you run 'python2.6'17:15
uvirtbotNew bug: #977609 in maas (main) "MAAS barfs with 'Internal server error' when clicking on Settings" [Undecided,Incomplete] https://launchpad.net/bugs/97760917:16
kirklandI think my mom told me I needed to attend more "canonical maas"17:18
kirklandshe makes me feel guilty about it too17:19
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uvirtbotNew bug: #988435 in horizon (main) "Requires memcached to also be installed.. " [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/98843517:30
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cjs226i have a server that seems to be operating fine, has a minimal load average (0.10, 0.16, 0.22), low CPU, has ~52MB RAM free but is using 1.5GB of swap (out of 5GB).  why is it swapping so much when it has freem RAM?  should this be a concern?18:39
patdk-lapcjs226, that is hardly enough info18:56
patdk-lapand I wouldn't call, 52mb enough space to fit 1.5gb of data18:57
cjs226patdk-lap: thx for replying.  i realize 52mb < 1.5gb.  I'm assuming if the system was truly swapping to the point of using ~30% of swap space, 1) it'd be noticeably slow and 2) the load average would be relevant18:59
cjs226and using all of it's RAM18:59
patdk-lapload average wouldn't matter19:02
RamJettWhat's the protocol here for re-asking a question? How long should I wait to ask again?19:02
patdk-laploadaverage is a poor method to determin in a system is overloaded19:02
patdk-lapthe whole idea of swap is, it swaps out things that aren't used19:03
patdk-lapif it starts swapping out things that are used, then you will defently notice it going slow19:03
patdk-lapcan you post the output of "free -m"19:04
cjs226             total       used       free     shared    buffers     cached19:05
cjs226Mem:          7466       7418         48          0          6         9319:05
cjs226-/+ buffers/cache:       7317        14819:05
cjs226Swap:         5119       1503       361619:05
patdk-laphmm, 148megs free19:06
patdk-lapdepends on your disk workload, but that is way too tight for my normal workloads19:06
patdk-lapI normally need a nice 2gigs in cached19:06
cjs226so, you normally run with 2GB free?19:09
patdk-lapno19:09
patdk-lapI normally run with 2gigs in cached19:09
cjs226this is a worker system running on EC2 that we run to exhaust a que of work then is terminated.  we're wanting to bleed it dry.19:09
patdk-lapbut cached is just free memory that is being used to speed up the disk19:10
patdk-lapwell, if you don't have any wait i/o %, as long as that stays low, it's ok19:10
patdk-lapif it's getting high, you might want some more cached ram19:10
patdk-lapit's something you will have to play with, is you usage i/o heavy?19:11
patdk-lapif so, you might be able to cut the time in half, by giving it more memory, and saving money overall19:11
cjs226no, we try to stay in ram19:11
patdk-lapor if it's purely more cpu workload, then it won't matter19:11
cjs226iowait, according to iostat, stays around #%19:11
cjs226er, 3%19:12
patdk-lapthen your likely just cpu bound, or limited by exernal stuff, like tcp connections and wait time19:12
cjs226well, i don't see any slowness at all, I'm just concerned about the amount of swap being used19:13
patdk-lapso?19:13
patdk-lapas long as it's not slowing you down19:14
patdk-lapit sounds like your application loaded a crapload of stuff, but doesn't use it often19:14
patdk-laplike if it's running mysql, I would say you made your memory buffers too large19:14
patdk-lapit's keeping idle, rarely used info, in ram, when it could just read it from disk again, as needed19:14
patdk-lapbut in this case, it's reading from disk swap as needed19:15
patdk-lapno real difference19:15
cjs226that's what I'm thinking as well, I was just wondering if i should be concerned given the amount of swap being used.  thx for the info19:15
patdk-lapnow if you where ALWAYS accessing swap, then you DO need more ram19:15
cjs226right19:15
cjs226and if so, I'd assume my iowait would be much higher, correct?19:15
cjs226well, with conventional storage19:16
patdk-lapwell, you would notice pauses19:16
patdk-lapuse vmstat and look at the swapin/out columns19:16
cjs226procs -----------memory---------- ---swap-- -----io---- -system-- ----cpu----19:16
cjs226 r  b   swpd   free   buff  cache   si   so    bi    bo   in   cs us sy id wa19:16
cjs22614  0 1544900  55712   5380  79332   19   33   273   215  447  275 10  3 84  319:16
cjs226clif@mail-sched-02:/var/log/spanning$ vmstat19:16
cjs226procs -----------memory---------- ---swap-- -----io---- -system-- ----cpu----19:16
cjs226 r  b   swpd   free   buff  cache   si   so    bi    bo   in   cs us sy id wa19:16
cjs226 0  0 1544900  55844   5388  79360   19   33   273   215  447  275 10  3 84  319:16
cjs226clif@mail-sched-02:/var/log/spanning$ vmstat19:16
cjs226procs -----------memory---------- ---swap-- -----io---- -system-- ----cpu----19:16
cjs226 r  b   swpd   free   buff  cache   si   so    bi    bo   in   cs us sy id wa19:16
cjs226 0  0 1544900  55968   5388  79360   19   33   273   215  447  275 10  3 84  319:16
cjs226clif@mail-sched-02:/var/log/spanning$ vmstat19:16
cjs226procs -----------memory---------- ---swap-- -----io---- -system-- ----cpu----19:16
cjs226 r  b   swpd   free   buff  cache   si   so    bi    bo   in   cs us sy id wa19:16
cjs226 0  0 1544900  55968   5388  79360   19   33   273   215  447  275 10  3 84  319:16
cjs226clif@mail-sched-02:/var/log/spanning$ vmstat19:16
cjs226procs -----------memory---------- ---swap-- -----io---- -system-- ----cpu----19:16
cjs226 r  b   swpd   free   buff  cache   si   so    bi    bo   in   cs us sy id wa19:16
cjs226 0  0 1544900  55968   5388  79360   19   33   273   215  447  275 10  3 84  319:16
guntbert!pastebin | cjs22619:17
ubottucjs226: For posting multi-line texts into the channel, please use http://paste.ubuntu.com | To post !screenshots use http://imagebin.org/?page=add | !pastebinit to paste directly from command line | Make sure you give us the URL for your paste - see also the channel topic.19:17
cjs226doh, sorry 'bout that19:18
cjs226http://paste.ubuntu.com/946182/19:18
cjs226i just don't see the system using swap in a detrimental way19:18
cjs226even though it's using a good deal of it19:19
patdk-lapwell, that is what swap is suppost to be for19:22
patdk-lapI never have workloads like that :(19:22
cjs226thx for your help19:23
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uvirtbotNew bug: #988520 in krb5 (main) "After failed auth, subsequent auths in same context fail" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/98852020:16
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uvirtbotNew bug: #988527 in samba (main) "package samba 2:3.5.8~dfsg-1ubuntu2.3 failed to install/upgrade: subprocess new pre-removal script returned error exit status 3" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/98852720:26
Psi-JackAnyone here ever linked up an ubuntu server up to a FreeIPA server? I'm trying to figure out how plausible it is, as I already have the FreeIPA server up and running now.20:39
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jkyleI'm having an issue where sometimes the grub menu timeout is ignored and clients "stick" at the grub boot menu21:44
jkyle12.0421:44
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jkyleI have an issue where grub sticks at the boot menu on the first reboot after a pxe install23:26
jkylenever timing out23:26

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