| MarkDude | Sure | 00:03 |
|---|---|---|
| MarkDude | I can make sure to have directions written before then | 00:03 |
| MarkDude | Oh, booze is expensive there | 00:03 |
| MarkDude | So sneaking some in is advised | 00:03 |
| pleia2 | https://wiki.ubuntu.com/CaliforniaTeam/Projects/UDS-Q#Oakland_A.27s_Baseball_Game_.28Thursday.29 | 00:04 |
| bkerensa | MarkDude: Oh | 00:18 |
| bkerensa | MarkDude: How far is the Coliseum? | 00:18 |
| MarkDude | a few stops | 00:26 |
| MarkDude | Also within easy walking distance of crack, and medicinal options | 00:27 |
| pleia2 | lol | 00:27 |
| MarkDude | Good loud music shows also | 00:28 |
| * MarkDude hopes at least one person early can go to the jono loud music show | 00:28 | |
| bkerensa | MarkDude: Not so much interested in the crack or medicinal options... Some good Sushi perhaps :D | 00:40 |
| * erichammond wakes up. Good sushi at UDS?! | 00:42 | |
| * MarkDude will ask Courtney, she is the sushi expert out that way | 00:42 | |
| pleia2 | bkerensa: might want to come across the bay for it ;) | 00:42 |
| erichammond | I've never really seen San Francisco, so the tour sounds great to me. I'm also up for nice dinners including sushi. I'll be there the evenings of Wed, Thu, Fri. | 00:45 |
| bkerensa | pleia2: yeah sushi in the castro is usually pretty tasty | 00:46 |
| pleia2 | I had sushi for lunch, and sushi on sunday night for dinner | 00:47 |
| pleia2 | I probably have all the mercury | 00:47 |
| pleia2 | but is so tastey :d | 00:47 |
| pleia2 | mmm heavy metals | 00:47 |
| erichammond | LA Weekly just ranked my favorite sushi restaurant as the second best in Los Angeles: http://www.laweekly.com/2012-04-19/eat-drink/sushi-los-angeles-top-10/ | 00:48 |
| erichammond | Their choice for first place will cost you about $400. | 00:48 |
| bkerensa | Best Sushi in SF imho: http://www.sanfranciscodays.com/photos/large/osaka-sushi.jpg | 00:51 |
| bkerensa | Best Burrito: Taqueria Cancun | 00:52 |
| bkerensa | they closed the best tostada place :( | 00:52 |
| === iam is now known as Guest83831 | ||
| akk | Ooh -- going through dpkg -L unity*, I found /usr/share/gconf/defaults/10_unity-2d | 02:12 |
| akk | whose first line is: /desktop/unity-2d/launcher/favorites [ubiquity-gtkui.desktop,nautilus-home.desktop,firefox.desktop,libreoffice-writer.desktop,libreoffice-calc.desktop,libreoffice-impress.desktop,ubuntu-software-center.desktop,ubuntuone-control-panel-gtk.desktop] | 02:13 |
| DonkeyHotei | 11.10, or 12.04? | 02:13 |
| akk | that might be a launcher list right here | 02:13 |
| akk | 11.10, though I could switch to 12.04 if that would make it easier. | 02:13 |
| DonkeyHotei | no, i'm on 11.10 | 02:13 |
| akk | I thought the live image used regular unity, not unity2d ... but the unity package doesn't include an equivalent looking defaults file. | 02:15 |
| * akk wonders what /usr/lib/unity/migrate_favorites.py does ... would help if it had some comments or something | 02:17 | |
| akk | Googling for it reveals that mostly what it does is crash. :) | 02:18 |
| Guest83831 | Hi all, We just got a HP pavilion dv7 without an OS and plan to install ubuntu..... (appluse here).... | 02:18 |
| Guest83831 | The intent is to build a vector design box using vector works and photoshop | 02:19 |
| DonkeyHotei | photoshop? | 02:19 |
| DonkeyHotei | they say CS4 works under WINE | 02:20 |
| akk | Photoshop seems like an odd choice either for linux or for vector design. | 02:20 |
| Guest83831 | Yeah, well my wife uses it alot. | 02:20 |
| Guest83831 | Yeah, I know, but she does landscape design and wants to do 3d renderings | 02:21 |
| DonkeyHotei | it's not meant for 3d | 02:21 |
| DonkeyHotei | i think the industry standard is maya | 02:22 |
| DonkeyHotei | but akk would know much better than me | 02:22 |
| DonkeyHotei | akk has written books about GIMP | 02:23 |
| akk | Blender is what most people seem to use on Linux, for 3D modeling. | 02:23 |
| akk | And inkscape for vector art, and gimp for raster. | 02:23 |
| Guest83831 | Ive tried, she won't take the time to learn Gimp. | 02:24 |
| DonkeyHotei | gimp won't do 3d, either | 02:24 |
| akk | Neither will photoshop, afaik. | 02:24 |
| DonkeyHotei | i said that | 02:24 |
| akk | Right. | 02:25 |
| akk | Maybe she's just doing things like taking a photo and using perspective transform and adding drop shadows, making things look a little 3d. | 02:25 |
| akk | Anyway, yeah, wine. Never tried running photoshop but it might work. | 02:26 |
| Guest83831 | I know there are a lot of great vector and CAD programs already for the *nix platforms.... But some women.... I mean people can be stubborn, as I'm sure you all know. | 02:26 |
| DonkeyHotei | if all she knows is photoshop, she'd have to learn SOMETHING new for 3d renderings, regardless | 02:26 |
| DonkeyHotei | meh, akk is a woman too | 02:26 |
| akk | She might not be doing real 3d modeling, just a little perspective transform. | 02:26 |
| DonkeyHotei | as for photoshop under wine, afaik, cs2 works, cs3 doesn't, cs4 works | 02:27 |
| Guest83831 | Anyway, I'm just wondering what the best version would be for this laptop.... I see there is another one comming out in two days. | 02:28 |
| akk | I haven't heard a lot of feedback about how stable 12.04 is ... but it's a long term release, which usually makes it a good bet. | 02:29 |
| akk | If I were installing a new ubuntu now I'd be pretty tempted to go that route. | 02:30 |
| dax | ditto, after waiting a week or three for the servers to stop being swamped and to get day 1 updates out of the way | 02:30 |
| akk | (having said that, here I am trying to make live ISOs for a class and using 11.10, so maybe I'm fibbing) | 02:31 |
| akk | But a difference is, my students won't be doing much with it and will only be using it for 1 day, while in your case you want something that'll continue to work well for a long time. | 02:32 |
| Guest83831 | Also, I'm a few years out of the *nix scene, is running in chroot still a good security mesure and does it effect any Wine run programs? | 02:32 |
| akk | I never do chroot except for extremely specialized purposes. I'm not sure what it would get you, really. | 02:33 |
| MarkDude | CS6 is not likely to work under wine | 02:33 |
| Guest83831 | I'm just thinking tiered security..... | 02:34 |
| Guest83831 | So cs4 is the best set then? | 02:34 |
| MarkDude | Having used both GIMP and CS5, they dont really compare if you are doing INTENSIVE editing | 02:34 |
| akk | Guest83831: If you set up a chroot that she works in all the time, and she somehow destroys the system inside the chroot ... are you any better off than if she'd destroyed the real system? | 02:35 |
| akk | Either way, you have to reinstall stuff, seems like. | 02:35 |
| akk | (but I'm not really up on chroot-for-security theory, so I might be missing something) | 02:35 |
| MarkDude | Wine likes having access to some windows libraries? If Im not mistaken | 02:37 |
| Guest83831 | I've been out for a while but chroot was very common security feature when I was building *nix boxes | 02:37 |
| Guest83831 | I'll have to start readding up on the latest | 02:38 |
| Guest83831 | Anyone know of any LUGS near Ventura? | 02:38 |
| akk | There's one around Camarillo. | 02:39 |
| Guest83831 | Probably one or two in SantaBarbara too, but I'm in Ojai :( | 02:40 |
| akk | And google says this: http://www.vclug.org/ | 02:41 |
| Guest83831 | Thanks, missed that in my search | 02:41 |
| akk | I searched for linux user group ventura OR "santa barbara" | 02:41 |
| akk | Don't see anything for Ojai specifically, though. | 02:42 |
| Guest83831 | Nah, Ojai's small | 02:42 |
| akk | Yeah. But progressive, so it didn't seem impossible. | 02:43 |
| akk | http://www.cipcug.org/ (channel islands) is the camarillo group. | 02:43 |
| Guest83831 | The boss just told me there's a 30 return on the laptop so I'll have to drop in an older version to test first | 02:43 |
| Guest83831 | UCUCI good school | 02:44 |
| * akk spent a happy summer in Ojai once | 02:44 | |
| Guest83831 | any no's on 11.10 with Wine and RAID 1 in a laptop? | 02:45 |
| Guest83831 | I'm headding that way to atleast test the box for the warranty | 02:46 |
| Guest83831 | Yeah, it's a great place to live, I just miss my ol lug comraderie | 02:47 |
| Guest83831 | I'm headding that way to atleast test the box for the warranty. | 02:51 |
| Guest83831 | Thx | 02:56 |
| === dax is now known as staffhedgehog | ||
| === staffhedgehog is now known as dax | ||
| izdubar | is there a facebook event for the release party at the thirsty bear? | 03:27 |
| === izdubar is now known as MarkDude | ||
| pleia2 | MarkDude: no, we haven't done that in a while (no one to maintain it) | 03:40 |
| pleia2 | just: http://loco.ubuntu.com/events/ubuntu-california/1615/detail/ | 03:41 |
| * MarkDude just got talked into going to a metal show in Oakland that night | 03:52 | |
| akk | What's the easiest way to make a bootable USB stick with persistence? (Not including usb-cd-creator, it's never worked for me.) | 04:01 |
| akk | I know casper looks for a partition named casper-rw, but if I make partitions and copy the iso to the first partition, the stick isn't bootable. | 04:02 |
| pleia2 | I use usb-creator-gtk or UNetbootin | 04:02 |
| pleia2 | depends on the system which works better | 04:02 |
| akk | unetbootin can do persistence now? It couldn't the last time I tried it. | 04:03 |
| pleia2 | hm, maybe not | 04:03 |
| pleia2 | http://unetbootin.sourceforge.net/diskimg/readme.txt | 04:04 |
| pleia2 | apparently it's an option | 04:04 |
| pleia2 | (those directions aren't required anymore, but that's the reference I found to it being an option :)) | 04:05 |
| akk | What's all this D:\syslinux.cfg stuff in that page? Is that a Windows version of unetbootin? | 04:06 |
| akk | The one on oneiric doesn't seem to have a persistence option. | 04:06 |
| akk | oh, wait, maybe it does | 04:07 |
| akk | It seems to want to write to /dev/sdf2 rather than /dev/sdf | 04:08 |
| dax | I think I got unetbootin to work a grand total of one time. | 04:08 |
| akk | I got it to work once, but without persistence. | 04:09 |
| akk | Let's see what it does this time ... | 04:09 |
| akk | It's better than the zero successes I've managed with usb-creator-gtk. | 04:09 |
| dax | usb-creator-gtk's worked fine for me the last few releases, though I stopped caring once they started being dd-able (which I realize is useless for your scenario) | 04:12 |
| akk | I was hoping dd would work, but no one seems to know how to couple it with persistence. | 04:13 |
| akk | IME. usb-creator-gtk works if the machine where you're running it is exactly the same (same desktop as well as distro/release) as what you're creating. | 04:14 |
| dax | can't do dd with persistance, as far as I know, hence my side-note | 04:15 |
| akk | That LiveCDCustomization page on help.ubuntu.com, sadly, didn't give me a bootable ISO. It's several years old and I guess some of the steps are out of date. | 04:16 |
| akk | unetbootin is impressively slow. I hope, if it succeeds, I'll be able to copy the stick it creates, since I need 10-11 of these. | 04:17 |
| akk | If you dd a usb stick (/dev/sdX, not /dev/sdX1) to another one, do you get a copy of all the partitions? I suppose that's too much to hope for? | 04:20 |
| dax | yes | 04:20 |
| dax | afaik, as long as target >= source size-wise, that should work fine | 04:20 |
| * akk gives up on this run of unetbootin -- been running for about 45 minutes, and about 20 minutes since it last woke up to redraw thewindow | 04:49 | |
| akk | It looks like it was putting everything on /dev/sdf2 and running out of room, instead of using the whole stick. | 04:49 |
| akk | Also it's unkillable, even with -9 | 04:52 |
| akk | Looks like it doesn't work anyway, even if it finishes: http://askubuntu.com/questions/123146/unable-to-get-persistence-on-usb-with-ubuntu-11-10-created-with-unetbootin | 04:58 |
| === jbermudes_ is now known as jbermudes | ||
| philipballew_ | pleia2, for applying to membership bord, do i apply to the overall bord, or just apply for my world timeslot? | 17:00 |
| philipballew_ | also, how much would it cost for me to just buy my way in? :) | 17:00 |
| pleia2 | philipballew_: you identify which timeslot you're applying for in the application email | 17:01 |
| philipballew_ | okay, thank you. I was unsure about that | 17:02 |
| greg-g | dangit, I was going to get some money out of him | 17:29 |
| pleia2 | lol | 17:30 |
| greg-g | I mean, this channel isn't logged, right? | 17:31 |
| * pleia2 changes the number of seats to fill from 10 to 11 for questionable integrity of one of the non-expiring members | 17:31 | |
| pleia2 | ;) | 17:32 |
| Darkwing | LOL | 17:32 |
| greg-g | haha | 17:34 |
| greg-g | hey, my integrity is intact. it was a fair deal out in the open ;) | 17:34 |
| pleia2 | hehe | 17:35 |
| Darkwing | It's just a funding donation for the work done :D | 17:35 |
| philipballew | greg-g, I m back! | 17:37 |
| greg-g | oh, hi there philipballew | 17:37 |
| philipballew | when refuring to money I will be selling my uds room | 17:37 |
| greg-g | I heard you have a problem that I might be able to solve with some mutual aid? | 17:37 |
| philipballew | 10 gets you in the bed | 17:37 |
| greg-g | ;) | 17:37 |
| philipballew | 20 gets you in the bed and me on the floor | 17:37 |
| greg-g | haha, don't tempt me | 17:37 |
| philipballew | 100 gets me out of the room completely | 17:37 |
| philipballew | you gonna be there greg-g ? | 17:38 |
| pleia2 | wow, reading the backscroll there is very important | 17:38 |
| greg-g | I will be for some of the evening stuff. I don't think I can get off work much that week | 17:38 |
| philipballew | sorry pleia2 | 17:38 |
| greg-g | pleia2: hahahahahaha | 17:38 |
| greg-g | it went from bribery to prostitution | 17:39 |
| pleia2 | lol | 17:39 |
| greg-g | only wholesome topics here | 17:39 |
| philipballew | I have never formally introduced myself greg-g Ill have to shake your hand in 2 weeks. | 17:39 |
| philipballew | Your new to ca right? | 17:39 |
| greg-g | philipballew: indeed. holy crap, 2 weeks! | 17:39 |
| greg-g | yeah, just moved in Sept. | 17:40 |
| greg-g | from Ann Arbor, MI | 17:40 |
| philipballew | So you know kevin? | 17:40 |
| philipballew | kdub? | 17:40 |
| Darkwing | So, interesting announcement... | 17:41 |
| Darkwing | This is my last year in California. | 17:41 |
| philipballew | where you movin to? | 17:41 |
| pleia2 | are you moving to michigan? | 17:41 |
| Darkwing | About 2 hours north of Indianapolis in Indiana | 17:41 |
| philipballew | Detroit is nice this time of year... | 17:41 |
| greg-g | philipballew: yeah, I know kdub :) | 17:42 |
| pleia2 | Darkwing: congrats, work? | 17:42 |
| Darkwing | School. | 17:42 |
| Darkwing | Indiana Institute of Tech | 17:42 |
| pleia2 | ah, nice! | 17:42 |
| philipballew | nice! | 17:42 |
| Darkwing | Plus, with the divorce, it will be a good place to reboot. | 17:42 |
| greg-g | careful in that part of the country. They call it the armpit of america | 17:42 |
| Darkwing | I have some family in that area and I spent my younger years there. | 17:43 |
| philipballew | yeah greg-g he just started a new job with canonical | 17:43 |
| greg-g | mostly b/c of the smell of the industrial area :) | 17:43 |
| philipballew | Wear deodorant | 17:43 |
| Darkwing | from about 4 to 15 I lived in northern Indiana. | 17:43 |
| greg-g | philipballew: oh, I didn't know! cool | 17:43 |
| pleia2 | Darkwing: cool, so not as random as it sounds :) | 17:43 |
| Darkwing | greg-g: LOL I lived outside of Shipshewana in Indiana when I was growing up. | 17:43 |
| Darkwing | Not really no :D | 17:43 |
| pleia2 | california is my favorite place | 17:44 |
| Darkwing | Born in Roseville, CA, grew up in Indiana and at 15 moved to Southern California. | 17:44 |
| * philipballew was born in the same hospital as Darkwing | 17:44 | |
| Darkwing | :D | 17:44 |
| pleia2 | secretly, I was born in Georgia | 17:45 |
| Darkwing | Really? | 17:45 |
| pleia2 | yep | 17:46 |
| Darkwing | Cool :D Interesting how much to get to know about past :D | 17:46 |
| * pleia2 nomad | 17:47 | |
| pleia2 | not that I particularly like moving, I actually quite like being settled, I'm just not good at it | 17:47 |
| Darkwing | I did Military for almost 8 years... Moving is a way of life LOL | 17:53 |
| pleia2 | yeah, I don't have such an excuse | 17:53 |
| pleia2 | I'll call it genetic, I've got immediate family scattered all over country (some in other countries) | 17:54 |
| pleia2 | I didn't realize how weird it was until I was having dinner with my fiance's family and I had "well my family in $foo..." stories all over the place and they were all "do you have family everywhere?" | 17:55 |
| pleia2 | yes, yes I do | 17:55 |
| Darkwing | LOL | 17:57 |
| akk | Are there lightning talks at UDS? | 22:38 |
| dax | looks like UDS-P had them | 22:39 |
| pleia2 | akk: yep, on friday during the 1 hour spot after lunch (used for plenary talks other days): https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UDS-Q/Plenaries#Lightning_Talks | 22:41 |
| akk | yay, will have to think about topics | 22:42 |
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