[00:00] <ardian> it is really stupid even if I open File Manager it starts like opening I don't know something big like Firefox or Kdenlive
[00:01] <christhisisgool> wait, so you are actually getting problems with other applications opening without you selecting them?'
[00:01] <christhisisgool> that is a bit bigger of a problem
[00:01] <ardian> christhisisgool, nope
[00:01] <christhisisgool> oh
[00:01] <ardian> I mean the noise of my fan
[00:01] <christhisisgool> oh. ok. well let us know how the install of the kernel goes
[00:01] <rbrooks> my fan is lkoud
[00:01] <christhisisgool> rbrooks: please give more information
[00:01] <rbrooks> loud*
[00:01] <christhisisgool> when does it get loud?
[00:02] <ardian> christhisisgool, there are also two kernel images I am installing one
[00:02] <ardian> should I install the other one too ?
[00:02] <christhisisgool> no
[00:02] <aleth> hi milanoa
[00:02] <rbrooks> any time is on its all i hear
[00:02] <christhisisgool> uhm, let me look at the page again
[00:02] <christhisisgool> and ill tell you which one
[00:02] <ardian> 	linux-image-3.4.0-030400rc4-generic-pae_3.4.0-030400rc4.201204230908_i386.deb
[00:02] <ardian> installed this one
[00:03] <christhisisgool> oh, you installed it? and it passed with no errors?
[00:03] <ardian> yup
[00:03] <ardian> and there is also this one at the end
[00:03] <ardian> 	linux-image-3.4.0-030400rc4-generic_3.4.0-030400rc4.201204230908_i386.deb
[00:03] <christhisisgool> wait, have you installed any image yet?
[00:03] <ardian> yes
[00:03] <christhisisgool> oh. well dont install two
[00:03] <ardian> linux-image-3.4.0-030400rc4-generic-pae_3.4.0-030400rc4.201204230908_i386.deb
[00:03] <ardian> ok
[00:03] <christhisisgool> just reboot and select the new kernel in boot
[00:04] <ardian> ok
[00:04] <ardian> see you in a bit
[00:04] <christhisisgool> ok! let us know how it goes!
[00:06]  * mayko sighs
[00:06] <ardian> christhisisgool, got the new kernel but now the noise doesn't even stop lol
[00:07] <christhisisgool> do sudo uname -r
[00:07] <christhisisgool> in the terminal
[00:07] <ardian> christhisisgool, 3.4.0-030400rc4-generic-pae
[00:07] <lucas__> using zfs-fuse and it works really like a charm. When I try to use the native kernel module I can't import the disk. What is different between those two approaches?
[00:07] <Jose_Avila8> Will HP All-in-One 100B be supported by Pangolin? I tried to run 11.10 but the Display is not supported.
[00:07] <ceti331__> hi, does unity support themes with ARGB transparency
[00:07] <Bennlucky7> u should check ur system performance
[00:08] <christhisisgool> hmmmmm.... well, this is where my knowledge ends. maybe it will be fixed sooner or later
[00:08] <ardian> christhisisgool, i tried even with debian
[00:08] <ardian> fedora
[00:08] <ardian> suse same problem
[00:08] <christhisisgool> then it definitely IS a kernel problem
[00:08] <Bennlucky7> maybe its the bios setting ardian
[00:08] <recon69_lap> Jose_Avila8: make a live cd and see
[00:08] <ardian> Bennlucky7, could be I got a free bios
[00:09] <ardian> and I also got a cd with my laptop but never checked that
[00:09] <Jose_Avila8> I made it but the graphics never ran, I even hear the sounds of desktop but I see nothing
[00:09] <ardian> makes me angry cause on windows 7 there's no problem
[00:09] <ardian> and I just can't work on winshit
[00:09] <aleth> hi milanoa
[00:09] <Bennlucky7> when u set ur fann speed in maximum not automatic  bios it realy noisy
[00:10] <JensenDied> so, I'm trying to setup an AP from my desktop which has an integrated wireless card (rtl8187 driver) which I have setup as an AP in the past.  It seems that now (since 3.0) it's unsupported and the new mac version doesn't have master/ap.  is this accurate in that trying to do more is frutless until the mac80211 verion is finished?
[00:10] <ardian> Bennlucky7, I don't have any options about that
[00:10] <christhisisgool> Bennlucky7, ardian, i have read things about this fan stuff. it appears to be a common issue, and thats why i thought it would be solved by a newer kernel. i guess not.
[00:11] <Bennlucky7> u should check it to professional technician
[00:11] <ardian> christhisisgool, too bad I bought this for 800 Euros
[00:11] <ardian> and I can't get what I want
[00:12] <christhisisgool> JensenDied: since it is not compiled as a module by default, you may have to compile the kernel yourself
[00:12] <Bennlucky7> yeah i think ardian problem is about hardware
[00:12] <christhisisgool> or the kernel
[00:12] <ardian> dell likes windows more
[00:12] <Jose_Avila8> Where can I search if this graphic chipset will or won't be supported... I'm a little lost right now
[00:12] <christhisisgool> ( which is the part that interacts  the closest to the kernel)
[00:12] <aleth> milanoa: whats wrong
[00:13] <Bennlucky7> jose: vga inboard
[00:13] <Punzilla> Hi all, I'm having issues loading my linux from the grub menu is anyone able to help me?
[00:13] <christhisisgool> yes
[00:13] <christhisisgool> Punzilla, what is your problem
[00:13] <JensenDied> christhisisgool: which module? nl80211?
[00:14] <Jose_Avila8> [Bennlucky7] I'm afraid I don't understand that, can you explain me more?
[00:14] <christhisisgool> yes, simply go to the kernel configuration menu and select it JensenDied
[00:14] <christhisisgool> however, compiling a kernel for the first time is not the easiest thing  in the world
[00:14] <recon69_lap> Jose_Avila8: I find it's best to create a live usb and boot from that to test stuff. you do have the computer to test with?
[00:14] <Bennlucky7> graphical chipsset i think is vga that has in ur motherboard u should check it ur motherboard box
[00:15] <JensenDied> christhisisgool: thanks, that will kill some time before i can call it quits or see how unfinished it is.
[00:15] <Punzilla> I know this is an ubuntu channel, but it is in relation to my sabayon linux
[00:15] <Punzilla> I've installed the system onto an old SCSI hard drive.
[00:15] <christhisisgool> Punzilla: if you could PM me. i use gentoo frequently
[00:15] <christhisisgool> and sabayon is based off of that
[00:15] <Jose_Avila8> [Bennlucky7] I can find the graphics chipset, but where can I see if will or not be supported by the new Ubuntu?
[00:16] <aleth> milanoa:
[00:17] <y0om4> hi
[00:17] <y0om4> what is the name of the torrent program that can run through a webpage?
[00:17] <Bennlucky7> jose: check ur hardware drivers in system and administration
[00:18] <nitro> buenas a todos los amigos ubuntu
[00:18] <Jose_Avila8> and recon69_lap I made a live usb with current beta, but it didn't run. I'm afraid it was because of the older live usb creating app, do you know one to support this beta?
[00:19] <y0om4>  /close
[00:20] <Jose_Avila8> [Bennlucky7] Ubuntu can't start the graphics, I can't see that through Ubuntu. My graphics chipset is and AMD Radeon HD 6310
[00:21] <Bennlucky7> klik the additional driver in the hardware
[00:21] <Bennlucky7> if u using ati radeon its a bit hard to install it
[00:22] <Bennlucky7> because the additional driver not optimal for ur card
[00:27] <lonnie> How do you restore a user's desktop to the defaults in Unity. What folder do you need to delete?
[00:28] <Bennlucky7> ther is no folder desktop in unity
[00:28] <lonnie> unity --reset doesn't do the trick
[00:29] <lonnie> so what do you do?
[00:29] <lonnie> The problem is that min max and exit buttons are on the right side, and I just want to restore the defaults for Ubuntu 12.04
[00:29] <lonnie> how though
[00:30] <christhisisgool> if you do not have a desktop folder, then go to nautilus, and open your home folder. then, right click, make new folder. then, title the folder called Desktop
[00:30] <Bennlucky7> what software u install to do that
[00:31] <lonnie> I'm not sure, I'm upgraded my mom's Ubuntu 10.04
[00:31] <lonnie> to 12.04
[00:31] <lonnie> and I want her to get use to the default settings.
[00:31] <sk1special> anyone know how to cut off the gui for just the logon/ wake up password screen?
[00:31] <dulldoxxie> hello
[00:32] <myhero> how to install java on oneiric ?
[00:34] <GG111> myhero: no Google results for that ?
[00:34] <myhero> i am on sub site...there are 3-4 versions given....which to install ?
[00:36] <GG111> myhero: can you pastebin the site link ?
[00:36] <myhero> linx rpm, linux(self-extracting), linux x64 and linux x64 rpm....which to install ?
[00:36] <myhero> k
[00:36] <GG111> myhero: no, not the RPM
[00:36] <GG111> anything for Debina there ?
[00:36] <GG111> .deb files ?
[00:37] <myhero> http://www.java.com/en/download/linux_manual.jsp?locale=en
[00:38] <countfuzzball> If I've my journal commit and dirty_writeback_centisecs times set to let's say an hour each on my laptop, will data get flushed to disk during reboot/shutdown anyway?
[00:39] <GG111> myhero: did you check this one out ? https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Java
[00:39] <Flavaln> Hi. I'd like to place /boot on a CD for security reasons. I really can't find much about this online. Has anyone tried this, or can anyone offer advice?
[00:39] <myhero> GG111: no, but i'll look at it
[00:39] <christhisisgool> Flavaln: do you mean that you want to boot from a cd, or do you mean you want to backup onto the cd>
[00:40] <Flavaln> I need a HDD for various reasons, which I will encrypt. I want to safeguard my boot partition against malware or whatnot.
[00:40] <GG111> christhisisgool: I think he wants to place /boot on a CD, so without the CD in the drive the OS will not boot.
[00:40] <Flavaln> I also multi-boot.
[00:41] <GG111> Flavaln: that's kinda harsh, no?
[00:41] <Flavaln> harsh?
[00:41] <GG111> did you ever have malware on /boot ?
[00:41] <countfuzzball> Flavaln: Check out the isolinux bootloader, should be able to boot a kernel from CD like that and just tell it that the root device is /dev/whatever.
[00:41] <Flavaln> GG111,  not that I'm aware of but things change quickly.
[00:42] <Flavaln> countfuzzball, I'll take a look, thanks.
[00:42] <GG111> Flavaln: I guess you're dealing with an ultra sensetive system.
[00:42] <delinquentme> if [python2.7 -V == "python 2.7"]; echo "true"; fi
[00:43] <delinquentme> what am i doing wrong here
[00:43] <delinquentme> I'm trying to run the command "python2.7 -V"   in that if statement
[00:44] <Flavaln> I don't do much shell scripting, but try backticks.
[00:45] <metasansana> delinquentme: try putting a space between the [ 's
[00:45] <sk1special>  
[00:45] <delinquentme> nope
[00:46] <decksmasher> i love my ubuntu 10.10 machine just learning all the time.!
[00:46] <Eleven_Cool> hello ubuntu friends
[00:47] <sk1special> guess thats a no. how about help with my graphics card. when first started pc shows a blank screen with a bunch of messed up horizontal lines for about 30 seconds. which i can fix by installing the suggested video card driver..but then it only recognizes one of my two monitors
[00:47] <gh0strider> hello everyone i am having some weird trouble installing adobe flash player on ubuntu and what i did was first i tried installing adobe flashplayer-installer and adobe flashplayer-nonfree from the repo's and that didnt seem to work so then i purged those files with apt get and i downloaded adobe flash manually and moved libflashplayer.so, kcm_adobe_flash_player.so, into my /root/.mozilla/plugins directory but i am still not able to use flash with firefo
[00:48] <Eleven_Cool> I'm setting up a hosting server using Ubuntu.  Does anyone know any good (less expensive) alternatives to Plesk & Parallels for turning my server into a virtual hosting server?
[00:48] <countfuzzball> gh0strider: is your X session running as root also? (though that is a very bad thing to do)
[00:49] <countfuzzball> gh0strider: if it isn't, try placing both .so files into /home/yourusernamehere/.mozilla/plugins and restart firefox
[00:50] <gh0strider> countfuzzball yes it is running as root
[00:50] <gh0strider> should the kcm_adobe_flash_player.so be in my /root/.mozilla/plugins dir or should it only be libflashplayer.so
[00:50] <gh0strider> ?
[00:51] <wolfmitchell> Ubuntu should do as it did with sudo rm -rf /  with sudo cat /dev/zero < /dev/sda
[00:52] <yuri__> Hello. I compiled my kernel with LZMA compression enabled and now GRUB2 won't recognize it when I run update-grub2. :(
[00:52] <countfuzzball> gh0strider: I'm not sure about the kcm library file, but libflashplayer.so should be in .mozilla/plugins, yeah. Nothing shows up in tools > addons in firefox?
[00:52] <wolfmitchell> (Eg. Add another argument with that, like --no-preserve-root  is on sudo rm -rf / )
[00:54] <gh0strider> countfuzzball: ya nothing shows up under addons -> plugins it doesn't say i have adobe flash player...but what is weird is that i am able to play some youtube videos
[00:54] <gh0strider> but there are a lot that i can
[00:55] <gh0strider> there are a lot of videos i can't play...
[00:55] <gh0strider> shit i really need to fix this...
[00:55] <gh0strider> should libflashplayer.so be an executable file?
[00:56] <xangua> !language | gh0strider
[00:56] <xangua> (19:55:02) gh0strider: there are a lot of videos i can't play... - what do you mean with 'can't play' ¿
[00:56] <yuri__> Alright. Is there a bootloader that supports a LZMA compressed kernel and how would I go about converting my system to that bootloader?
[00:57] <DavieCrocket> how come vlc-plugin-mozilla cannot b e installed on Oneiric?
[00:58] <xangua> !oneiric | DavieCrocket
[00:58] <gh0strider> xangua: i just thought it was weird that not having the adobe flash player that i could watch some videos on youtube, but if i try other videos most don't work telling me i don't have the right plugin installed
[00:59] <xangua> jum,....  DavieCrocket 12.04 support is on #ubuntu+1
[00:59] <GG111> gh0strider: I had flash working "out-of-the-bod"
[00:59] <gh0strider> shit i need to get this adobe flash player working because i need it for school so if anyone can point me in the righ direction i would really appreciate it
[00:59] <hydester> what is good software to work/convert MTS files on ubuntu?   i have played with ffmpeg and handbrake and took a quick peek at openshot.  a lot of time to evaluate all of my options.
[00:59] <DavieCrocket> im on 11.10 i said
[00:59] <pangolin> !language | gh0strider
[00:59] <christhisisgool> !oneiric
[01:00] <DavieCrocket>  how come vlc-plugin-mozilla cannot b e installed on Oneiric? <-- see
[01:00] <Ben64> !info vlc-plugin-mozilla
[01:00] <DavieCrocket> of
[01:00] <DavieCrocket> wiw
[01:00] <DavieCrocket> wow
[01:00] <Klikini1> ubottu: that's the current release NOW, but Thursday it will be 12.04, which is by now stable enough to use for 2 days until it comes out of beta.
[01:00] <Ben64> !info mozilla-plugin-vlc
[01:01] <Ben64> DavieCrocket: look for that one
[01:01] <Klikini1> wow they sure have smart bots these days.
[01:01] <gh0strider> pangolin: sorry if you were offened by the "s" word...i am just stressed because i need to get this working because of a school assignment
[01:01] <Klikini1> I apparently missed it.
[01:01] <Ben64> gh0strider: 64 or 32 bit
[01:02] <Klikini1> DON'T bother repeating
[01:02] <DavieCrocket> http://packages.ubuntu.com/oneiric/mozilla-plugin-vlc
[01:02] <gh0strider> Ben64: 32 bit
[01:02] <Klikini1> !schedule
[01:02] <DavieCrocket> i got it there an it will not install
[01:02] <Klikini1> wow funny
[01:02] <Klikini1> ~
[01:02] <Klikini1> ~
[01:03] <Klikini1> !
[01:03] <FloodBot1> Klikini1: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[01:03] <Klikini1> I didn't mean to type that... sorry mr. flood
[01:03] <xangua> DavieCrocket: sudo apt-get install mozilla-plugin-vlc
[01:03] <Ben64> DavieCrocket: use apt-get or the software center to download/install packages
[01:04] <Ben64> !flash | gh0strider
[01:04] <notKlaatu> hi, anyone know how I can get seahorse-plugins on Pangolin?  launchpad seems to suggest it's not in the repo.
[01:04] <DavieCrocket> The following packages have unmet dependencies:
[01:04] <DavieCrocket>  mozilla-plugin-vlc : Depends: vlc-nox (= 1.1.12-2~oneiric1) but 2.1.0~~git20120424+r1449-0~r77~oneiric1 is to be installed
[01:04] <DavieCrocket> my conflict
[01:04] <gh0strider> ahh i think i may have found the problem!
[01:04] <bthornton> Hi all. I did a fresh install of Ubuntu 12.04 beta a couple of weeks ago. When Precise officially releases in a couple of days, will I gain anything by doing another fresh install with a "release" ISO? Or will dist-upgrading effectively get me to the exact same place?
[01:04] <Eleven_Cool> im just an ubuntu newb here to try to learn, don't mind me
[01:05] <gh0strider> i downloaded the 64 bit adobe flash and i have 32 bit linux installed
[01:05] <Ben64> notKlaatu: 12.04 support in #ubuntu+1 for a couple more days
[01:05] <Eleven_Cool> *trying
[01:05] <Klikini1> dist-upgrade will work
[01:05] <gh0strider> let me download the right one...
[01:05] <notKlaatu> ah ok thanks Ben64
[01:05] <Ben64> gh0strider: you should use apt-get, not adobe.com
[01:05] <J2> 12.04 beta 2 is the latest, right?
[01:05] <Klikini1> yes
[01:05] <J2> k thanks
[01:05] <xangua> gh0strider: and you don't download it from repository because...
[01:05] <Klikini1> out of beta on Thurs.
[01:05] <DavieCrocket> is there a fix for this Depends: vlc-nox (= 1.1.12-2~oneiric1) but 2.1.0~~git20120424+r1449-0~r77~oneiric1 is to be installed
[01:06] <Ben64> DavieCrocket: looks like you have vlc from a PPA, and that is unsupported with the mozilla plugin
[01:06] <DavieCrocket> oh i see
[01:06] <xangua> DavieCrocket: if you use a third party reposiroty you are on your own, either use the official ubuntu repository or concact the autor of that repository
[01:06] <DavieCrocket> ok
[01:07] <gh0strider> Ben64: i tried installing it with apt-get,  i tried "apt-get install flashplayer-instaler flashplayer-nonfree" and it didn't work...
[01:07] <xangua> !info flashplugin-nonfree | gh0strider
[01:07] <xangua> neither of those were
[01:08] <Klikini1> !sudo
[01:08] <xangua> mmmm....
[01:08] <Klikini1> sudo apt-get install flashplayer-installer flashplayer-nonfree
[01:08] <gh0strider> hey guys when i copy "libflashplayer.so" over to /root/.mozilla/plugins shoud i make it an executable with chmod ?
[01:08] <gh0strider> chmod +x libflashplayer.so ?
[01:09] <gh0strider> can anyone here check and see if their libflashplayer.so is an executable?
[01:09] <pangolin> http://get.adobe.com/flashplayer/completion/?installer=Flash_Player_11_for_Ubuntu_(apt)
[01:10] <Ben64> "In 32-bit Ubuntu, install Flash by going to the Ubuntu Software Center and searching for "ubuntu-restricted-extras." This package will install Flash for you, as well as other things like .mp3 and .wmv codecs that allow you to watch videos and play music. "
[01:11] <Ben64> from !flash that i triggered earlier
[01:11] <Klikini1> !flash
[01:11] <Klikini1> there you go.
[01:11] <gh0strider> pangolin: thanks for the link i will try it out if my manual download doesn't work
[01:12] <countfuzzball> If I've my journal commit and dirty_writeback_centisecs times set to let's say an hour each on my laptop, will data get flushed to disk during reboot/shutdown anyway?
[01:12] <pangolin> gh0strider: why not just use the link I gave you, it will work and no headaches
[01:13] <pangolin> !msgthebot > Klikini1
[01:13] <Sna4x8> I'm not able to click anything when I log in to Ubuntu 11.10 Unity.  I have to log out, then log back in.  Anyone experienced that?
[01:13] <gh0strider> pangolin: i got it working
[01:13] <pangolin> gh0strider: happy for you
[01:14] <yuri__> Does anyone know how to compile GRUB2 with LZMA support?
[01:14] <gh0strider> thanks everyone for the help...i forget who mentioned the 64bit and 32 bit download but that was it, i didn't even notice that i had downloaded the 64bit flash player on my 32bit linux system, after downloading the right 32 bit flashplayer and moving the libflashplayer.so to /root/.mozilla/plugins it worked great
[01:14] <gh0strider> thanks again everyone
[01:14] <kantlivelong> anyone know why my resume does not work from pm-suspend? pm_trace yields nadda
[01:15] <pangolin> yuri__: try #grub
[01:15] <yuri__> Thanks.
[01:17] <FesterJester> Can anyone tell me if there are any restrictions on the redistribution of Ubuntu?
[01:17] <pangolin> FesterJester: none
[01:18] <pangolin> FesterJester: make as many cd/usb as you want and give them out to everyone.
[01:18] <FesterJester> @pangolin: It is safe to sell on used PC then. Thanks.
[01:18] <pangolin> FesterJester: it is.
[01:19] <FesterJester> I thank you much.
[01:21] <synackfin> I just put up an apache server and localhost works fine, but if I try to access it from outside, the connection is closed -- is there anything the default ubuntu config that prevents public web access?
[01:21] <Sna4x8> Ugg, that frustrating.  I tried resetting unity.  When I log in, I can't click anything.  I have to ALT+CTRL+DELETE, log out, then log back in, and then I can click fine.
[01:21] <Sna4x8> synackfin: nope.
[01:22] <Sna4x8> synackfin:  Are you on a LAN?
[01:23] <z3k3> hi
[01:24] <zeeno> synackfin, say everything is set up properly, the only thing that can be blocking it is your isp, some isp's are known to block port 80 on residential ip's..
[01:25] <wolfmitchell> g2g
[01:25] <syddraf> How can i set up vsftpd to not allow a user to leave their home directory?
[01:26] <Sna4x8> syddraf: I think you want to set up a chroot jail.
[01:26] <zeeno> syddraf, sounds like a jailroot.. i think ssh/sftp already has a config option for that.. i don't know about vsftpd though.. but probably u can..
[01:26] <synackfin> Sna4x8/zeeno: I'm accessing it from the LAN
[01:27] <synackfin> well, the connection succeeds but I get a 404 error when accessing anything from outside
[01:27] <syddraf> zeeno: is sftp a different daemon than vsftpd?
[01:27] <synackfin> and the webpages work if I use chromium from localhost
[01:28] <Sna4x8> synackfin: 404 is different than connection reset.
[01:28] <zeeno> !sftp
[01:28] <zeeno> (sftp isnt the same thing as vsftp)
[01:28] <aknewhope> what folder does ubuntu store applications?
[01:28] <Sna4x8> synackfin: How is your virtual host set up?  Can you pastebin it (/etc/apache2/sites-enabled/your-vhost)
[01:29] <zeeno> aknewhope, use your package manager to tell what apps are installed (synaptic or something)
[01:29] <alteregoa> I could fix this if I just had some duct tape
[01:29] <aknewhope> ok, so the package manager does the managing for me. Where do I find my applications for launch?
[01:30] <lasha> Hello to everyone
[01:30] <aknewhope> do I have to use that "Dash-Home" this on the launch bar or whatever it's called?
[01:30] <lasha> I need to get a final answer about one thing
[01:31] <lasha> does gnome 3 support compiz
[01:31] <lasha> ?
[01:31] <lasha> or does it HAVE to be gnome 2 ?
[01:31] <lasha> woobly win/desktop cube etc
[01:31] <zeeno> aknewhope, there's also gnome-classic .. the startmenu isnt with the default install
[01:31] <wharton> hello
[01:31] <aknewhope> zeeno: can gnome-classic be installed ontop of unity??
[01:32] <aknewhope> or alongside...
[01:32] <lasha> aknewhope: it is already there, log out and change to gnome classic ? which ubuntu do you have
[01:32] <zeeno> aknewhope, apt-get install gnome-shell .. you click on the gear-icon to change session desktops on the logon screen
[01:32] <zeeno> (apt-get install gnome-shell .. you "can then" click on the gear-icon to change session desktops on the logon screen)
[01:32] <aknewhope> Thanks everyone!
[01:33] <aknewhope> smart people
[01:33] <zeeno> lasha, i think he's trying the latest.
[01:33] <zeeno> lasha, so it isnt there by default..
[01:33] <aknewhope> im on 11.10
[01:33] <lasha> zeeno, you familiar with compiz/gnome ?
[01:34] <lasha> anyone running compiz on 12.04 beta ? with gnome 3 ?? or gnome classic ?
[01:34] <lasha> i need any option
[01:35] <doc-saintly> I'm running linux mint and my VNC server stopped working after an apt-get update a few days ago. Can anyone provide some hints on getting it running?
[01:35] <booi> anybody know why the dropbox icon in 12.04 doesn't look right?
[01:35] <kantlivelong> doc-saintly: wrong chan
[01:35] <aknewhope> is there any way in ubuntu, or linux/gnu for that matter, that I can snapshot my system as-is in time before I do some package installations?
[01:35] <xangua> !mint | doc-saintly
[01:35] <xangua> booi: for pangolin support /join #ubuntu+1
[01:36] <booi> xangua, lol thanks. shoulda read the room titiel
[01:36] <zeeno> doc-saintly, check out nomachine's nx latest beta (use the workstation server edition), and the latest client .deb.. (disable PhysicalDesktopSharing in /usr/NX/etc/server.cfg, then restart /etc/init.d/nxserver restart) << much better than vnc..
[01:36] <doc-saintly> zeeno: unfortunately I do Win/Lin so NX hasn't worked well for me
[01:36] <doc-saintly> Thanks for the tips though guys.
[01:37] <zeeno> doc-saintly, nomachine nx client runs off windows
[01:37] <kantlivelong> pm-suspend truely hates me
[01:37] <zeeno> doc-saintly, in fact they're making new product servers to work from win/linux/mac<->win/linux/mac
[01:38] <zeeno> doc-saintly, freenx is not the same as nomachine's nx ..
[01:38] <zeeno> doc-saintly, you download the package from nomachine.com
[01:39] <zeeno> doc-saintly, http://www.nomachine.com/preview/select-package-virtual-desktop-workstation.php?os=linux  (works with ubuntu 11.10)
[01:39] <zeeno> doc-saintly, you can also tell the .cfg to use ubuntu-classic as the virtual desktop instead of unity-2d
[01:40] <zeeno> (i mean gnome-classic)
[01:40] <lasha> what do you guys recommend personally ? do you personally stick with gnome shell or gnome2/compiz ?
[01:42] <ramsrambo> I need help installing Ubuntu 12 Beta 2 with WUBI installer After Installing it is  boots up with ubuntu but says unable to locate root files system
[01:42] <Sna4x8> I use Unity.  I hated it at first, but it grew on me.  Alt+tab is still retarded in Unity if you ask me, though.
[01:42] <zeeno> ramsrambo, you should try ubuntu in virtualbox or vmware.. because 99% people here don't install using wubi
[01:43] <zeeno> or rather should i say, most of us dont or wouldnt bother fixing wubi boots..
[01:43] <cfedde> if I can get alt-tab to swap between windows rather than applications that'd be perfect
[01:43] <lasha> Sna4x8 I kinda dislike unity too :(
[01:43]  * mydogsnameisrudy has left gnome and went to kde
[01:43] <lasha> I am 10 times more productive with gnome 2 rather than unity
[01:43] <Sna4x8> lash: I _did_ dislike it.  I like it now though.
[01:43] <Sna4x8> It took a bit, but it's faster for me now.  Start + type = quick.
[01:44] <ramsrambo> zeeno : you need to understand that it is fresh install which is driving me to this problem
[01:44] <lasha> Sna4x8 what hardware do you have ? it feels slow in comparison to anything I ve done on linux
[01:44] <alteregoa> darmok and jalad at tanagra
[01:44] <Sna4x8> lasha: Plenty =) Core i7, 8gb ram, fermi vid card.
[01:44] <zeeno> ramsrambo, i understand that.. but nobody here bothers with wubi.. people would prefer no hassle using vmware or virtualbox..
[01:44] <lasha> Sna4x8 thats why :D
[01:45] <Sna4x8> Unity 2d works fine on my brick of a laptop though.
[01:45] <zeeno> ramsrambo, the time you spent figuring it out, you could spend the time installing vbox machine and have it set up by then
[01:45] <lasha> Sna4x8 not everyone has those hehe :P I got integrated card with duo 2.8, is running windows faster even than unity
[01:45] <Sna4x8> Use xubuntu?
[01:45] <Jordan_U> ramsrambo: Why not do a normal dual boot install? It's best to avoid Wubi unfortunately.
[01:45] <Sna4x8> xfce is super light-weight.
[01:45] <countfuzzball> If I've my journal commit and dirty_writeback_centisecs times set to let's say an hour each on my laptop, will data get flushed to disk during reboot/shutdown anyway?
[01:46] <lasha> xubuntu isnt unity is it ?
[01:46] <Sna4x8> Nope, xfce.
[01:46] <zeeno> Jordan_U, safer, he should try vmware/virtualbox and see if he likes it
[01:46] <lasha> xubuntu vs lubuntu
[01:46] <lasha> i need 1 out of those 2 :D
[01:46] <zeeno> ramsrambo, if you're doing a real install, you should always backup your windows data of course
[01:46] <yuri__> Is there a decent manual for the Kernel which explains EVERYTHING finally? I'll take a tech manual even at this point. :)
[01:46] <Jordan_U> countfuzzball: Yes.
[01:47] <zeeno> ramsrambo, the ubuntu installer can shrink ntfs or vfat so that ext4 filesystem can be allocated
[01:47] <ramsrambo> jordan_u, I need to access the NTFS on win 7
[01:47] <delinquentme> How can I pipe some file from wget into tar in a single command?
[01:47] <zeeno> yuri__, kernel.org ?
[01:47] <zeeno> yuri__, (source :)
[01:47] <yuri__> Thanks, zeeno. I'll look again. :)
[01:47] <zeeno> (tree)
[01:47] <zeeno>  \ /
[01:47] <zeeno>   |
[01:47] <garthk> delinquentme: for extraction?
[01:47] <delinquentme> gardar, yeah
[01:48] <Jordan_U> zeeno: Please stick to support discussion.
[01:48] <garthk> curl http://example.com/foo.tar | tar xf -
[01:48] <zeeno> delinquentme, you need to put it into a file before tarring it
[01:48] <garthk> To list the files, replace xf with tf
[01:48]  * gardar slaps delinquentme
[01:48] <delinquentme> hmmm i think this is a github issue then
[01:49] <Jordan_U> ramsrambo: OK. How is that a problem with a normal dual boot install?
[01:49] <delinquentme> im trying to download a zip .. but the only url i can get for it is LasaurGrbl/zipball/master
[01:49] <yuri__> zeeno, as in the source code itself and the readmes, right?
[01:49] <ramsrambo> zeeno, I created separate partition with EASUES with ext3 on it but it is not recognized by gparted
[01:49] <zeeno> ramsrambo, backup your ntfs personal data, and either use the ubuntu installer (choose manual partitioning) or use gparted live cd (gparted.sf.net) to resize the ntfs partition-- you only need 2 partitions- 1 for ext4 and 1 for swap
[01:50] <zeeno> (and of course really u'd have 3 or 4 partitions, counting ntfs and the ntfs-reserved if there's one)
[01:50] <ramsrambo> Jordan_U, I will not be able to access the windows files and directory if I dual boot
[01:51] <Lirth> I'm getting an error when I try to run my tekkit server (it's for minecraft). http://pastebin.com/4X8cY5QY
[01:51] <zeeno> ramsrambo, run the gparted live cd
[01:51] <ramsrambo> zeeno, I tried that too but none of the partitions created by windows show with gparted
[01:51] <zeeno> (latest)
[01:52] <zeeno> ramsrambo, http://gparted.sourceforge.net/
[01:52] <zeeno> ramsrambo, you tried that gparted? (latest?)
[01:52] <lasha> guys how do you edit metacity on gnome classic? gconf or something anyone remembers exactly ?
[01:53] <GG111> lasha: does gconf-editor work ?
[01:53] <ramsrambo> zeeno, yes! I downloaded the ISO file and burnt it on to dvd and tried
[01:53] <lasha> GG111 I thought it did why ? with gnome 2 I think it does i guess
[01:53] <lasha> need to try
[01:54] <lasha> doing right now
[01:54] <zeeno> ramsrambo, you using ntfs encrypted?
[01:54] <GG111> it also works with Unity, actually
[01:54] <ramsrambo> zeeno, nope! but the gparted on  http://gparted.sourceforge.net/ is not 64 bit
[01:56] <zeeno> ramsrambo, read the features on http://gparted.sourceforge.net/ ..
[01:56] <zeeno> ramsrambo, download that, and use it.
[01:56] <zeeno> "GParted can be used on x86 and x86-64 based computers running Linux"
[01:57] <ramsrambo> zeeno, lettme try once again ok!
[01:59] <ramsrambo> zeeno, is the gparted on Ubuntu 12 beta 2 is different from  http://gparted.sourceforge.net/ ?
[02:00] <ramsrambo> zeeno, bcos I booted with ubuntu 12 and selected "Try" and I could get the gparted running on the live cd
[02:00] <zeeno> ramsrambo, gparted live cd is always updating.. latest bugs are minor and not harmful at all to any data loss (but you should still backup your windows data first)
[02:00] <zeeno> i already said you can use either
[02:00] <Jordan_U> ramsrambo: It's equally easy to access your Windows files from Ubuntu with a normal dual boot and Wubi, and probably easier to access your Ubuntu files from Windows with a normal dual boot than with Wubi.
[02:01] <yuri__> Is there a #kernel channel or something just for the linux kernel?
[02:01] <ramsrambo> Jordan_U , how would you access the files on NTFS ?
[02:02] <Jordan_U> ramsrambo: In a normal dual boot your Windows partitions will be listed under "Devices" in the top left of the file manager.
[02:02] <zeeno> ramsrambo, you burning that iso yet?
[02:04] <zeeno> ramsrambo, you can wipe out wubi and make some room too
[02:04] <wer0ckz> hi guys. please help. i just finished installing Ubuntu 12.04 and restarting my laptop. i got an error "Windows failed to start"
[02:04] <ramsrambo> zeeno, I am downloading the gparted live cd once done I will try
[02:04] <wer0ckz> the installation was a single ubuntu, not a dual boot. i guess the windows loader is still there
[02:04] <zeeno> wer0ckz, you have 2 ntfs partitions?
[02:04] <wer0ckz> how can i fix this?
[02:04] <Jordan_U> wer0ckz: #ubuntu+1 for 12.04.
[02:04] <wer0ckz> i guess so
[02:04] <wer0ckz> should i insert the cd again?
[02:04] <ramsrambo> Jordan_U, if this gparted live CD does not work I will dual boot
[02:05] <Jordan_U> ramsrambo: What are you trying to do with the GParted LiveCD?
[02:06] <zeeno> Jordan_U, he already has wubi and is trying to resize ntfs. He's wiping out wubi. The dual-boot doesnt work with wubi.
[02:06] <losted> Hi guys, I just installed SSL and Mercurial on my server. The strange thing is that I can access everything in https but /hg. If anyone can help it would be much appreciated
[02:06] <ramsrambo> Jordan_U, trying to recover the WUBI installed version
[02:06] <JZApples> How do I tell if I successfully installed the fglrx drvier for my ati card?
[02:07] <zeeno> ramsrambo, you have nothing on that wubi insatll correct? it never booted right?
[02:07] <zeeno> ramsrambo, I believe you're trying to do a "native" install.. the only reason why you'd want to resize ntfs anyways..
[02:07] <ramsrambo> zeeno, nothing on that install it is all fresh
[02:07] <zeeno> ramsrambo, it's just a loopback file on ntfs.
[02:08] <zeeno> ramsrambo, i believe the default (it probably was 10.xx that i tried) was about 4 gigs..
[02:08] <ramsrambo> zeeno, earlier version like Maverick use to install without a problem earlier
[02:09] <zeeno> ramsrambo, what is your goal here?
[02:09] <wer0ckz> help
[02:09] <wer0ckz> anyone?
[02:09] <zeeno> ramsrambo, to install ubuntu natively?
[02:09] <Jordan_U> zeeno: Wubi should be removed from within Windows using Add/Remove programs, and ramsrambo should just let Ubuntu's installer do the resizing.
[02:09] <Jordan_U> zeeno: I need to leave but will be back in about 20 minutes. Please don't make things more complicated than they need to be.
[02:09] <ramsrambo> zeeno, The goal is to install Ubuntu OS
[02:10] <zeeno> ramsrambo, you dont do the real install with the wubi installer of course..
[02:10] <aknewhope> can someone mention my name because I am testing a plugin?
[02:10] <Hoyt> hi , how can I add a luks device , after installation ?
[02:10] <zeeno> ramsrambo, so you have to download the real installer iso..
[02:10] <gogeta> aknewhope: aknewhope
[02:10] <aknewhope> hmmm thanks
[02:10] <ramsrambo> zeeno, I am downloading the same
[02:10] <Hoyt> I tried crypttab , but it doesn't prompt for password on boot
[02:10] <zeeno> ramsrambo, and you choose "amd64" (amd64 is for intel 64bit too)
[02:11] <ramsrambo> zeeno, those things are taken care
[02:12] <barxool> Does anyone have ever compiled eglibc 2.13 from source on ubuntu 11.04 ?
[02:12] <ramsrambo> zeeno, thnks for the help
[02:12] <barxool> This is a nightmare
[02:12] <gogeta> zeeno: wubi on on all the live cds been that way for years
[02:12] <alteregoa> i need a darmok
[02:13] <gogeta> barxool: what is
[02:13] <myhero> how to download .deb packages fron software center
[02:13] <gogeta> myhero: they all are debs
[02:14] <myhero> how to download them so as to store them locally n install from them later on
[02:14] <gogeta> myhero: command line that with apt-get
[02:14] <wylde> !aptoncd | myhero
[02:15] <barxool> gogeta> I downloaded sources from http://packages.ubuntu.com/natty/libc6
[02:16] <barxool> gogeta> ./configure show no errors
[02:16] <gogeta> barxool: apt-get -d packagename
[02:17] <gogeta> barxool: apt-get download packagename is also valed
[02:17] <wylde> or apt-get source packagename
[02:18] <barxool> you mean i should not get source from the website ?
[02:18] <delinquentme> if I'd like a variable which returns the particular OS name for any POSIX system... what would that variable be?  I thought it was $MACHTYPE
[02:18] <barxool> sources *
[02:18] <gogeta> barxool: anything you dl that way will be in /var/cache/apt/archives
[02:18] <wylde> you can get the source for any opensource package in the repos through apt.
[02:18] <gogeta> barxool: to clean it just apt-get clean to delete em all
[02:19] <chenwj_> on ubuntu 11.04, `apt-cache search gcc` only lists gcc44/gcc45. Is it possible to install gcc46 on it?
[02:19] <wylde> and to help with satisfying dependencies you can use 'apt-get build-dep packagename'
[02:19] <gogeta> barxool: yea normal they have a slightly diffrent name like xorg-devel
[02:20] <barxool> wylde,gogeta> Not sure to understand .. do you suggest i shouldn't download sources from website but rather use apt-get -d libc6 to compile libc ?
[02:21] <gogeta> barxool: you whant to make a deb from source?
[02:22] <gogeta> barxool: then you well need build essentals and a nice little program called check install it compiles it then makes a binary
[02:22] <barxool> wylde,gogeta> I want to compile libc-2.13.so with debugging informations
[02:22] <wylde> barxool: it's easier using apt-get. I'd have to pull the man page up but I believe you can even have apt resolve the the build depenencies and build the package. I could be confusing that with synaptic though.
[02:22] <trism> barxool: libc6-dbg
[02:22] <delinquentme> ubuntu comes with python2.7 included right?
[02:23] <gogeta> barxool: oh
[02:23] <barxool> trism> oh ! i didn't know that
[02:23] <gogeta> barxool: your going to need build essentals it set up a compiler etc
[02:24] <KommaH> Hey everyone.
[02:24] <KommaH> Can someone walk me through how I would go about using tcpdump and wireshark to investigate UDP packet rates by IP from a certain port?
[02:24] <barxool> wylde,gogeta> yes, but the problem is that the compilation fail with the error: (wait for it)
[02:24] <gogeta> barxool: and yes its easer to get the devil builds becouse it will grab all the deps nedded
[02:26] <barxool> wylde,gogeta> http://pastebin.com/bSm9tbpw
[02:27] <gogeta> barxool: apt-get source libc6
[02:27] <gogeta> barxool: that should get the source and anything it needs
[02:28] <barxool> gogeta> ok i try it
[02:29] <trism> delinquentme: yes, recent versions
[02:29] <delinquentme> trism, uname -o is the goodness !
[02:31] <trism> delinquentme: agreed
[02:35] <narsil4> Does Ubuntu 12 handle uefi out of the box?
[02:35] <Corrytonapple> Yep
[02:35] <alteregoa> yes
[02:35] <narsil4> Ubuntu 11 seems unable
[02:35] <alteregoa> with darmok boot menu
[02:35] <DrManhattan> hiyeeeee!!!! 4 days till 12.04 final?
[02:35] <narsil4> I suppose that's what my problem is
[02:35] <Corrytonapple> 12.04 is not yet released though
[02:35] <Corrytonapple> and happens to be not very stable
[02:35] <DrManhattan> the beta is pretty stable
[02:35] <linocisco> how to install vbox guestaddition on ubuntu?
[02:35] <DrManhattan> especially if you use the daily build
[02:36] <Corrytonapple> sudo apt-get install virtualbox-additions                                lino
[02:36] <Corrytonapple> Stable?  I am having issues all over.
[02:36] <Corrytonapple> I guess our luck is different
[02:36] <gogeta> narsil4: its more grub handling efi and there is efi grub
[02:37] <Corrytonapple> Normally though, you want to give releases a good month after the y have been released to being using them
[02:37] <alteregoa> yeah grub had a tons of problems
[02:37] <alteregoa> i hope they fixed them
[02:37] <narsil4> I've spend all day wrestling with installing Ubuntu 11.10 on my uefi. Still no go.
[02:38] <gogeta> narsil4: on 12 not on efi heh
[02:38] <Corrytonapple> Did you just install the other day narsil?
[02:38] <gogeta> narsil4: unity is so mutch faster
[02:38] <barxool> gogeta> i tried "apt-get source libc6", then i executed the configure script (no error), then "make -j 2" and i have... exactly the same error
[02:39] <gogeta> barxool: did you install build essentals or just gcc
[02:39] <narsil4> gogeta: are we talking about the same thing? I'm referring to installing Ubuntu on a uefi hard disk.
[02:39] <Corrytonapple> I'd wait to install until after 12.04 is out
[02:39] <barxool> gogeta> build-essential
[02:39] <gogeta> barxool: :)
[02:40] <gogeta> barxool: then your missing a dep
[02:40] <gogeta> barxool: thats the pain w source
[02:41] <DrManhattan> narsil4, try a daily build
[02:41] <barxool> gogeta> did you look at the error ? it doens't looks like a missing dep, although i'm not expert.
[02:41] <barxool> gogeta> there are many post on the web about this error, but no threads have a solution
[02:41] <narsil4> Corrytonapple: well I have no Linux install at the moment, so I can't hold off on installing.
[02:42] <narsil4> DrManhattan: you mean http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/daily-live/current/ ?
[02:42] <gogeta> barxool: Need to add -U_FORTIFY_SOURCE to the gcc invocation
[02:42] <DrManhattan> narsil4, yep.
[02:42] <narsil4> k thanks
[02:42] <gogeta> barxool: i looked uup your error that was the answer
[02:43] <barxool> gogeta> yes ... i tried already, but maybe i did it wrong
[02:43] <barxool> gogeta> what file should i change ?
[02:44] <barxool> gogeta> i passed CFLAGS="-U_FORTIFY_SOURCE" to configure, but it seems it doesn't appends to default options, it overwrite them
[02:44] <narsil4> Why are the daily builds LTS? That seems like a contradiction in terms.
[02:45] <gogeta> barxool: http://sourceware.org/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=10375
[02:48] <c4pt> http://www.ebay.com/itm/180860567966?ssPageName=STRK:MESELX:IT&_trksid=p3984.m1555.l2649              a decent laptop if anyone wants it
[02:48] <gogeta> Naranek: its still beta
[02:48] <gogeta> Naranek: and whats wrong with including all the updates
[02:49] <barxool> ubottu,gogeta> should i modify cflags in config.make ?
[02:49] <gogeta> barxool: that seems to be the thing to do
[02:50] <ahhughez> can I make the pc speaker beep, without installing 'beep'?
[02:50] <gogeta> ahhughez: turn the pc on
[02:50] <gogeta> ahhughez: lol
[02:50] <ahhughez> sounds like a plan
[02:51] <gogeta> ahhughez: it will go beep
[02:52] <gogeta> ahhughez: man i rember when we used pc speaker for everything even voices
[02:52] <ahhughez> hmmm beep does not work either.
[02:52] <delinquentme> where on earth did the senible-browser command come from?
[02:53] <delinquentme> sensible-browser **
[02:53] <ahhughez> It'll beep when I turn it on, so the speaker does work... I have to run
[02:53] <Lint01> packager manager in ubuntu is junk
[02:53] <Lint01> it cannot uninstall packages
[02:53] <gogeta> Lint01: its inproves vastly in 12
[02:54] <gogeta> Lint01: and can uninstall
[02:54] <Lint01> how to uninstall then?
[02:54] <gogeta> Lint01: slect installed
[02:54] <Jordan_U> Lint01: Rather than complaining, please describe the problem you're having.
[02:54] <gogeta> Lint01: then just search the one you dont whant
[02:55] <Lint01> Jordan_U, I cannot uninstall upgrade using the package manager
[02:55] <Jordan_U> Lint01: Are you trying to uninstall a package or install an older version of a package?
[02:55] <gogeta> Lint01: sudo apt-get remove package name
[02:55] <Lint01> I need to recover the older version
[02:56] <gogeta> Lint01: thats the quick way
[02:56] <barxool> ubottu,gogeta> ok it seems it went further. Another error now, i'll google a bit.....
[02:56] <Jordan_U> Lint01: What package and why do you need an older version?
[02:56] <gogeta> barxool: :(
[02:56] <Lint01> because new version does not work, a kernel package
[02:57] <gogeta> Lint01: the old kernel should still be installed
[02:57] <Lint01> I need to revert installation of new kernel
[02:57] <gogeta> Lint01: just hit esc at boot to get the grub menu
[02:57] <Lint01> package manager cannot do this, because it is useless junk
[02:58] <gogeta> Lint01: as long as you dont remove it it should be there
[02:58] <gogeta> Lint01: acully it can
[02:58] <Jordan_U> Lint01: Please stop with the unproductive complaining. This is your last warning.
[02:58] <Lint01> gogeta, my boot menu uses /vmlinuz
[02:58] <gogeta> Lint01: you just have to specify the version
[02:59] <Jordan_U> Lint01: You can simply "sudo apt-get remove linux-image-version" where "version" is the specific version you want removed. But you still haven't explain what the root problem is, maybe if you did we could give you a better solution.
[02:59] <gogeta> Lint01: sudo apt-cache search linux-image
[03:00] <gogeta> Lint01: that will list the diffrent kernels avable
[03:00] <draven> lint is saying the gui isn't giving that option
[03:01] <Lint01> so my system will not have kernel package installed at all?
[03:02] <draven> hi Lint01 what are you trying to do?
[03:02] <gogeta> Lint01: in ubuntu atore type linux-image then click show technical items
[03:02] <gogeta> store
[03:02] <Jordan_U> Lint01: Ubuntu does not remove old kernel packages, so the next most recent kernel package will be used.
[03:02] <gogeta> Lint01: you will see all the diffrent builds
[03:03] <RamJett> Anyone help me out on a boot problem. I'm pretty sure it does this on 11.10-server thru now (12.04) . Working with 12.04 LTS updated now. Have a RAID 6 with 12 600G drives (SAS). Have a LVM on top of the /dev/md0. I do a reboot and it always says coming up in degrade and asks me if I want to boot or drop into recovery shell. It took me awhile to be able to get this far 'cause I wasn't able to see the question it asked because the screen was bla
[03:03] <RamJett> ck before, now I changed grub to console. Anyway it alway comes up clean anyway when I answer (Y) so I'm thinking it is a detection problem or race condition in the initramfs. Where do I go from here? Like how would I put a sleep in to see if race condition, etc. Hope that wasn't to much on one line.
[03:04] <narsil4> is there no torrent for the 12.04 daily build?
[03:04] <Jordan_U> narsil4: #ubuntu+1 for 12.04.
[03:05] <gogeta> narsil4: would be kinda hard dont you think
[03:05] <znull> if I purchase a new cert should I use www.domain.tld ? / domain.tld Is there some sort of standard
[03:06] <Jordan_U> !ot | znull
[03:06] <znull> Jordan_U : heh,
[03:07] <znull> Jordan_U : just answer my question
[03:07] <bazhang> znull, wrong channel
[03:07] <znull> ah come one, i will install the cert on ubuntu:)
[03:07] <znull> is that ok/
[03:07] <bazhang> znull, #ubuntu-offtopic , stop asking here
[03:08] <kartook> hello i did some thing on my compiz , MY top bar shows very light . Even i can see the time .How do i fix this
[03:08] <bazhang> kartook, did what
[03:09] <kartook> i want to change my colour , or transparents
[03:09] <bazhang> kartook, you changed the theme?
[03:10] <kartook> i have MacLion theme . that is good
[03:10] <kartook> one sec i will share the screeenshot
[03:10] <bazhang> kartook, the macbuntu one?
[03:10] <kartook> nope
[03:11] <kartook> http://postimage.org/image/46nbqrb2b/
[03:11] <kartook>  here is the screen shot :(
[03:12] <bazhang> kartook, so whats the issue? change the theme to something else and see
[03:12] <kartook> after changing theme also it was good
[03:12] <kartook> i played in compiz settings .. ( iam not good on compiz )
[03:13] <kartook> i worked some thingo n unity
[03:13] <kartook> experimental
[03:14] <bazhang> kartook, please be very clear, what experimental thing did you try
[03:14] <kartook> dear no problem i change my theme and work fine :)
[03:14] <kartook> thanks fro the tip
[03:15] <mayko> How does one turn off hoverclick in lubuntu?
[03:16] <mayko> it's in accessibility options ordinarily but there doesn't appear to be such a settings panel in the lube
[03:22] <rbik> so what clients do you use to connect to freenode?
[03:26] <tonesfrommars> rbik: you can use empathy.
[03:26] <tonesfrommars> I'm using kvIRC
[03:27] <pjs> hey guys.. I noticed that installing postgresql, the default encoding of the db's (and templates_ are sql_ascii.. how do I tell it to be UTF_8? (I know how to do it in PostgreSQL, but I'm asking when I specify apt-get install ...) it uses sql_ascii during the initdb phase..
[03:30] <hks> .
[03:31] <Jacky> weechat :)
[03:33] <alteregoa> darmok and jalad
[03:33] <bazhang> alteregoa, stop that
[03:42] <barxool> gogeta> all right, eglibc successfully compiled ! (i had to add -fno-stack-protector to CFLAGS as well)
[03:45] <wer0ckz> help
[03:45] <wer0ckz> my ubuntu 12.04 wont boot
[03:45] <wer0ckz> i downloaded the iso and burn disk
[03:45] <wer0ckz> no error message just a blinking cursor
[03:47] <Fyodorovna> wer0ckz, you want the #ubuntu+1 channel. TRy holding down the shift after the bios hit f6 choose nomodeset then boot to the try ubuntu
[03:49] <Wildbat> is there a tools can generate a detail diff report of two directories?
[03:51] <wer0ckz> Help! my ubuntu 12.04 wont boot. i downloaded the iso and burn disk. no error message just a blinking cursor. I installed it in /dev/sda5 ext4
[03:51] <ActionParsnip> wer0ckz: #ubuntu+1 please
[03:51] <hameddetch> i removed lamp and reinstalled it but i couldn't find phpmyadmin
[03:52] <hameddetch> any one here ?
[03:53] <ActionParsnip> hameddetch: many
[03:53] <linocisco> how to install vbox guestaddition on ubuntu?
[03:53] <linocisco> how to install vbox guestaddition on ubuntu?
[03:53] <ActionParsnip> linocisco: use the menus at the top of the running vbax, there is the option to download there
[03:55] <linocisco> ActionParsnip, yes. I did. I found CDRom inside media or somewhere. but when I run .sh file. it disappear like splash screen. and it was not installed properly
[03:55] <hameddetch> i changed     sudo gedit /etc/apache2/sites-available/default     var/www to (www on desktop) and it was working then i deleted it when i cameback to open phpmyadmin 404 error
[03:55] <ActionParsnip> hameddetch: use gksudo with gedit
[03:56] <funa> k
[03:56] <ActionParsnip> linocisco: try asking in #vbox
[03:56] <UBUxUBU> why does it say ubuntu unregged at the top of my screen
[03:56] <ActionParsnip> UBUxUBU: I'd ask in #freenode
[03:56] <linocisco> ActionParsnip, no answer
[03:56] <UBUxUBU> why would i ask in freenode
[03:57] <linocisco> ActionParsnip, I asked thousandtimes . may be they are not using ubuntu on vbox
[03:57] <ActionParsnip> linocisco: does the ISO pass MD5 test?
[03:57] <Jordan_U> UBUxUBU: It's probably a bug in your IRC client (you were probably sent to #ubuntu-unregged at some point, but this is definitely not #ubuntu-unregged).
[03:57] <ActionParsnip> linocisco: which version of Ubuntu are you using?
[03:57] <linocisco> ActionParsnip, sure. mine is zentyal.
[03:57] <UBUxUBU> ok but i was never sent there...ty
[03:58] <hameddetch> how to remove all lampp setting and reinstall it
[03:58] <Zzarkc> Does anyone know how to set up a NAS using Ubuntu that allows dynamically adding more drives?
[03:58] <ActionParsnip> linocisco: is Zentyal the host OS, or the guest OS?
[03:58] <ActionParsnip> Zzarkc: doesn't LVMS support adding drives?
[03:58] <UBUxUBU> hmmm, i guess ill go somehwere else and see if it miss names the channel
[03:58] <linocisco> ActionParsnip, Zentyal on Guest. WinXP is host
[03:59] <Zzarkc> ActionParsnip: I'm not sure. I'll google it now though.
[03:59] <hameddetch> remove also setting of appache path    remove every thing about lampp
[03:59] <ActionParsnip> linocisco: this is ubuntu support only. not zentyal
[03:59] <UBUxUBU> omg
[03:59] <UBUxUBU> only here
[03:59] <Zzarkc> ActionParsnip: What is the extended name of LVMS? I keep finding the Las Vegas Motor Speedway...
[04:00] <linocisco> ActionParsnip, I see i asked in properly channel already and finally I asked here as no response for days
[04:00] <ActionParsnip> Zzarkc: try: http://www.google.co.uk/search?sourceid=chrome&ie=UTF-8&q=ubuntu+lvms
[04:01] <ActionParsnip> Zzarkc: if you add the word 'ubuntu' to searches relating to ubuntu, you will get better results
[04:01] <ActionParsnip> Zzarkc: basic web search stuff dude
[04:01] <Zzarkc> ActionParsnip: ... Now I feel dumb.
[04:02] <intrader> I screwed up my dual boot (window xp/linux 10.10) by installing 11.11. The result is that on boot it goes to the grub prompt. The windows partition is no sda1, the linux root is sda5 and the swap is sda6
[04:02] <jdhfr> is it possible to use ubuntu ISO to install ubuntu?
[04:02] <mobile> reinstall the windowa MBR
[04:02] <jdhfr> (from ubuntu)
[04:03] <ActionParsnip> jdhfr: you can use it to upgrade a standing OS
[04:03] <mobile> u need the windows xp cd boot from it choose recovery option
[04:04] <ActionParsnip> intrader: http://www.omgubuntu.co.uk/2011/09/live-usb-sticking-grub-2-video/
[04:04] <mobile> yyes jdhfr
[04:04] <jdhfr> no I need to use existing 3rd party linux to install ubuntu from livecd ISO. is it possible to do manually?
[04:04] <mobile> no
[04:04] <ActionParsnip> intrader: boot to liveCD and you can reinstate grub there
[04:04] <mobile> use either usb or dvd or cd
[04:04] <jdhfr> no media. no boot.
[04:05] <Jordan_U> jdhfr: You need to burn the iso to a CD or use a tool to write it to a USB drive then boot from said media.
[04:05] <ActionParsnip> mobile: same difference
[04:05] <jdhfr> Jordan_U: that is not possible
[04:05] <ActionParsnip> jdhfr: do you have your Maverick install media?
[04:05] <Jordan_U> jdhfr: You can use your existing system to loop boot the Ubuntu iso then install. It's a little tricky, but works.
[04:05] <JonEdney> Anyone around familiar with Mailservers on ubuntu forums?
[04:05] <ActionParsnip> jdhfr: what are you talking to us using?
[04:05] <jdhfr> it's fedora
[04:06] <Jordan_U> jdhfr: What is?
[04:06] <hameddetch> Restarting web server apache2   apache2: Could not reliably determine the server's fully qualified domain name, using 127.0.1.1 for ServerName
[04:06] <ActionParsnip> jdhfr: then use unetbootin and make a bootable media of some kind using that....
[04:06] <ActionParsnip> jdhfr: or whatever fedora uses
[04:06] <shadykhan> anyone running photoshop under wine?
[04:07] <ActionParsnip> jdhfr: obviously a bootable CD can be burned and booted to using Fedora too
[04:07] <Jordan_U> !wine | shadykhan
[04:07] <intrader> ActionParsnip, I have reinstalled, on reboot I don't get the choice of windows, and further after a second or so, now I am on an unusual splash with a login - which then brings the desktop of 11.10
[04:07] <jdhfr> is it possible just to prepare a partition and extract cd contents there?
[04:07] <ActionParsnip> shadykhan: I'd ask in #winehq too
[04:07] <shadykhan> i just needed some help cause it was working then it just keeps crashing
[04:07] <shadykhan> didnt know there was a channel so thanks
[04:07] <Jordan_U> jdhfr: Yes, but it's easier to just keep the iso as an iso file and loop boot it. Especially if you already have grub2 installed.
[04:08] <ActionParsnip> intrader: what GPU do you use?
[04:08] <jdhfr> yes, I have grub2
[04:08] <intrader> ActionParsnip, how do I find out?
[04:08] <ActionParsnip> intrader: does the system have a make and model?
[04:09] <Jordan_U> jdhfr: Am I understanding correctly that you have Fedora installed currently, and would like to install Ubuntu in place of Fedora without using any media other than the current internal drive?
[04:09] <jdhfr> Jordan_U: right
[04:09] <jdhfr> not in place, parallel
[04:09] <intrader> ActionParsnip, a Lenovo T61p with 3Gb, 160 G drive
[04:10] <Jordan_U> jdhfr: The method I will explain, if you decide to do it, could fail and leave you without a bootable system. Without any rescue media, what will you do then?
[04:10] <ActionParsnip> intrader: the RAM and HDD capacity aren't interesting to us
[04:10] <UBUxUBU> i tried to use synaptics in 11.10 yesterday but the "apply button" refused to light up so i could use it,,,,
[04:10] <OldOneEye> how do i set disk space quota for group clients
[04:10] <jdhfr> Jordan_U: of course I will not allow ubuntu to use my MBR grub
[04:10] <UBUxUBU> so i just had to let it update normally
[04:10] <ActionParsnip> intrader: seems to be an nvidia
[04:11] <ActionParsnip> intrader: add the boot option:  nouveau.blacklist=1
[04:11] <Jordan_U> jdhfr: I'm not explaining it yet because it will take a while, and I want to make sure you really want to do it. (Installing in paralell will work just as well, but still leaves the possibility of an unbootable system).
[04:11] <intrader> ActionParsnip, how do I supply what you need.I see the System settings. The previous 10.10 named nvidia
[04:11] <ActionParsnip> intrader: yes, its a Quattro FX570M 245Mb
[04:11] <intrader> ActionParsnip, should I reboot?
[04:12] <jdhfr> Jordan_U: you might just link me how to boot via grub, I think I can handle it from there
[04:12] <Jordan_U> jdhfr: Any time you change partitions you should re-run grub-install. You can't install Ubuntu without any risk of an unbootable system if something goes wrong (human error or software bug).
[04:12] <hameddetch> http://localhost/phpmyadmin/       404 not found
[04:12] <ActionParsnip> intrader: wait, wait. does Ubuntu eventually boot ok?
[04:12] <ActionParsnip> hameddetch: if you just go to http://localhost   do you see "It works!"
[04:12] <Jordan_U> jdhfr: As far as I know there is no such guide, I've done it a few times and walked people through it but never actually written a guide myself either.
[04:12] <shadykhan> how can i fully remove wine from terminal sudo apt-get remove wine? or is there a better command?
[04:13] <hameddetch> yes it works
[04:13] <ActionParsnip> shadykhan: sudo apt-get --purge remove wine
[04:13] <hameddetch> and tested php file
[04:13] <intrader> ActionParsnip, after - breefly offering the Windows XP selection and booting I have a 11.10 desktop showing
[04:13] <shadykhan> thanks ActionParsnip
[04:13] <ActionParsnip> shadykhan: you can delete the installed apps and config by deleting ~/.wine    there will also be a folder somewhere in ~/.config you will need to get rid of too
[04:14] <moose-machine> hi. i have a dual booted laptop with Windows 7 and Ubuntu 10.10. I want to upgrade to the new LTS 12.04, but i don't know how to replace 10.10 from my Linux partition without touching the Windows 7 partition. I am some very expensive software in Windows that I cannot afford to lose.
[04:14] <Jordan_U> jdhfr: There is this: http://www.supergrubdisk.org/wiki/Loopback.cfg#How_do_you_use_a_loopback.cfg_to_boot_an_iso.3F which will explain how to loop boot the Ubuntu iso, but you also need to know to add the "toram" kernel parameter and manually remove the loop device before running the Ubuntu installer.
[04:14] <ActionParsnip> moose-machine: then your software will be backed up
[04:14] <ActionParsnip> moose-machine: I suggest you delete Maverick and install Precise in it's place
[04:14] <Jordan_U> jdhfr: You'll need at least 1 GiB of RAM also, possibly more, as the entire iso will be copied into RAM so that the Ubuntu partition on which it is stored can be unmounted while you're still booted from said iso.
[04:14] <moose-machine> actionparsnip: what is the procedure of deleting 10
[04:15] <ActionParsnip> moose-machine: how did you install it?
[04:15] <moose-machine> actionparsnip: i used a CD.
[04:15] <ActionParsnip> intrader: if you hold shift, is it OK?
[04:15] <ActionParsnip> moose-machine: ok so Ubuntu is in it's own partition?
[04:15] <moose-machine> yes
[04:15] <moose-machine> the default install as per the live CD
[04:16] <intrader> ActionParsnip, hold shift? does nothing
[04:16] <PriceKid> 04:16 <+dax> PriceKid: which package Crypt/OpenSSL/Bignum.pm is int                                               +yano
[04:16] <PriceKid> which is?
[04:16] <PriceKid> dax: ?
[04:16] <moose-machine> actionparsnip: yes. the default install as per the CD.
[04:16] <dax> PriceKid: yes?
[04:16] <PriceKid> dax: Wich package crypt/openssl/bignum.pm is in
[04:17] <dax> PriceKid: no idea, hence me sending you to your distribution channel
[04:17] <ActionParsnip> moose-machine: then run a final backup of the stuff you need from Maverick and boot to Windows. Delete the Linux partitions and then boot to Precise liveCD and install to the new free space
[04:17] <hameddetch> please help me  in 404 error in open localhost/phpmyadmin      ---- you told me before remove xampp and install lampp i did
[04:17] <ActionParsnip> PriceKid: perl-modules: /usr/share/perl/5.14.2/bignum.pm
[04:17] <OldOneEye> how do i set disk space quota for group clients
[04:18] <PriceKid> Can I apt-get that?
[04:18] <moose-machine> actionparsnip: ok. i see. would GParted do the trick of deleting the linux partitions and extending the Windows partition? Will that fix the bootloader as well?
[04:18] <ActionParsnip> OldOneEye: http://www.ubuntugeek.com/how-to-setup-disk-quotas-in-ubuntu.html
[04:18] <ActionParsnip> moose-machine: if you want, sure
[04:18] <PriceKid> I just did a regex for "big" and hope it hits the correct package
[04:18] <PriceKid> 195 surley one of them must be usefull
[04:18] <moose-machine> actionparsnip: sounds good. thanks for that. will try that once 12.04 is released.
[04:19] <OldOneEye> how do i transfer ubuntu server to another hard drive i just upgraded to a 300gig scsi
[04:19] <OldOneEye> from a 140
[04:19] <ActionParsnip> OldOneEye: could use rsync
[04:19] <hameddetch> is it assumed to move phpmyadmin folder to www
[04:19] <digitalcake> trying to allow user www-data access to a folder in my home say for example /home/me/www, I have tried sudo chown -R me:www-data /home/me/www but no luck
[04:19] <intrader> ActionParsnip, I hold Shift, it does nothing - what do you mean?
[04:19] <ActionParsnip> PriceKid: yes
[04:20] <ActionParsnip> intrader: hold shift as soon as you see the BIOS screen
[04:20] <PriceKid> apt-get install /usr/share/perl/5.14.2/bignum.pm?
[04:20] <intrader> ActionParsnip, so I should reboot and try, yes?
[04:20] <ActionParsnip> intrader: yes
[04:20] <moose-machine> actionparsnip: regarding the back up. will the default backup software in maverick let me back up my software and then reinstall it in 12.04 without me having to reinstall everything? i have purchased all humble indie bundles and have heaps of games on it.
[04:21] <OldOneEye> how do i transfer ubuntu server to another hard drive i just upgraded to a 300gig scsi
[04:21] <PriceKid> Now it says: Can't locate Crypt/DH.pm
[04:21] <PriceKid> OldOneEye: dd?
[04:21] <ActionParsnip> OldOneEye: I told you already
[04:22] <ActionParsnip> moose-machine: not sure about the humblebundle dude. You will need to redownload all your software and such
[04:22] <moose-machine> actionparsnip: hmmm. ouch! ok. i'll see.
[04:22] <ActionParsnip> PriceKid: look on http://packages.ubuntu.com
[04:22] <ActionParsnip> moose-machine: I'd contact the humble guys
[04:22] <intrader> ActionParsnip, that does it - I am booting to Windows XP first to see. Then to Linux - I will let you know
[04:23] <PriceKid> ActionParsnip: Won't "apt-get install .*dh.*" work?
[04:23] <ActionParsnip> moose-machine: obviously the packages will need reinstalling as not only will they be at different versions, they will be compiled for a much later released
[04:23] <moose-machine> actionparsnip: ok. thanks. what about the rest of the software that i have installed from the ubuntu software centre?
[04:23] <moose-machine> actionparsnip: same applies to that also?
[04:24] <ActionParsnip> PriceKid: no, apt-get only knows package names. You could install apt-file and search using that but packages.ubuntu can do it now for you without need to install extra stuff
[04:24] <PriceKid> apt-get install .*dh.* returned: E: Broken packages
[04:24] <ActionParsnip> moose-machine: yes it will all need reinstalling after the clean install
[04:24] <PriceKid> can I exclude all the packages including dhcp?
[04:24] <intrader> ActionParsnip, does not boot to WIndows XP - gives me a gui login tor 11.10 (unusual window) which leads to 11.10 desktop
[04:24] <moose-machine> actionparsnip: hmmm. ok. thank you for that.
[04:24] <hameddetch> thank you i solved my problem
[04:24] <ActionParsnip> PriceKid: http://packages.ubuntu.com/search?searchon=contents&keywords=DH.pm&mode=exactfilename&suite=oneiric&arch=any
[04:25] <ActionParsnip> intrader: try running:  sudo update-grub
[04:25] <ActionParsnip> PriceKid: see how handy the site is. Try using what is suggested rather than trying to guess stuff
[04:25] <PriceKid> ActionParsnip: You should have told me earlier, it would have saved me from installing 194 packages
[04:26] <ActionParsnip> PriceKid: what do you think "(05:22:44) ActionParsnip: PriceKid: look on http://packages.ubuntu.com"   was?
[04:26] <PriceKid> Now it says: Can't locate Crypt/Blowfish.pm
[04:26] <intrader> ActionParsnip, where is the terminal in 11.10?
[04:26] <ActionParsnip> PriceKid: again "(05:22:44) ActionParsnip: PriceKid: look on http://packages.ubuntu.com"
[04:26] <PriceKid> ActionParsnip: that was after I got the regex
[04:26] <ActionParsnip> intrader: press CTRL+ALT+T   much easier
[04:27] <ActionParsnip> intrader: works in all DEs too :)
[04:27] <intrader> ActionParsnip, wonderful, but where is the list of applications?
[04:27] <ActionParsnip> PriceKid: if you start trying to guess stuff, you'll get issues
[04:28] <Jordan_U> jdhfr: Are you still there?
[04:28] <ActionParsnip> intrader: use the Ubuntu icon in the top left, it's all there
[04:28] <z3k3> :)
[04:28] <jdhfr> Jordan_U: yes, I got these instructions
[04:29] <intrader> ActionParsnip, called 'Dash home' - what the heck is that?
[04:30] <ActionParsnip> intrader: its how you access apps in Unity.
[04:30] <Jordan_U> jdhfr: OK, I'm a little busy so I'll hope that you can figure out most of this on your own. If you have any questions feel free to ask, I may sometimes take half an hour to answer but I am still here :)
[04:30] <jdhfr> kk
[04:32] <intrader> ActionParsnip, I will try the boot again - My terminal is not visible as it is covered by the dash dingy. Wow this will taking used to.
[04:36] <intrader> ActionParsnip, unable to select Windows XP selection - it goes to the unfamiliar login screen
[04:37] <ActionParsnip> intrader: my grub knowledge is limited dude, maybe others can help
[04:37] <intrader> ActionParsnip, can you suggest question?
[04:38] <ActionParsnip> intrader: just state the situation as is, people will help if they can
[04:39] <intrader> ActionParsnip, thanks for your help!
[04:39] <serdotlin> intrader: rerun sudo update-grub in terminal
[04:41] <intrader> serdotlin, it lists WIndows Xp on /sev/sda1 after listing the linux images and memtest...
[04:44] <intrader> serdotlin, I will try the reboot again
[04:47] <intrader> serdotlin, grub offers me the list, but selection of Windows XP followed by Enter simply goes back to the grub list - this eventually times out to the ubuntu login
[04:48] <serdotlin> Windows XP does not boot?
[04:52] <serdotlin> intrader: maybe you need to reinstall your winXP, i don't know...i think your winXP was corrupted, is it happened after you install Ubuntu?
[04:56] <intrader> serdotlin, That would mean that the 11.10 process corrupted it - the process is very lengthly and requires me to reinstall ubuntu, does it not?
[04:56] <Jordan_U> !bootinfo | intrader
[04:58] <intrader> Jordan_U, ubotin, I will do so - it will take me some time, thanks
[05:00] <___MAX> hi , i am using sakis3g for internet connection but after using apt-get  auto remove it ask for chat dependency , so how can i get this dependency or package
[05:01] <Derpadong> So Ubuntu 12.04 is out now or later today?
[05:01] <Fyodorovna> Derpadong, 26th
[05:01] <Derpadong> Oh yeah
[05:02] <Derpadong> I forgot its wednesday
[05:02] <Derpadong> lol
[05:02] <iHarp> Good evening/morning everyone
[05:02] <Derpadong> Im deciding on If I should scrap this Windows 7 install for a *buntu distro or not
[05:02] <iHarp> Just run both :p
[05:02] <vuongdothanhhuy> Good afternoon :D
[05:02] <ActionParsnip> Derpadong: try liveCD, see how it goes
[05:03] <Bennlucky7> thursday 00.01
[05:03] <Derpadong> ActionParsnip: I have tried it before
[05:03] <iHarp> It's always nice to have a copy of windows. or virtual machine... Wine is nice as well
[05:03] <ActionParsnip> Derpadong: then you know what is on offer
[05:03] <Derpadong> Ive mainly been doing 'Arch' and 'Debian net installs'
[05:03] <vuongdothanhhuy> no, try USB live, works like in hard disk, see if hardwares are regconized successfully
[05:03] <vuongdothanhhuy> if yes, then...go :D
[05:04] <Derpadong> Mhm
[05:04] <vuongdothanhhuy> or, you can install both, just like what I did for my netbook. Now it has Win 7 starter and Ubuntu 12.04 B
[05:04] <hamed_shahien> i want to know what ftp details of lampp
[05:04] <hamed_shahien> or how can i setup it
[05:04] <cfedde> Derpadong: install whatever linux you want on a separate partition as dual boot.  Or install virtual box on windows and one or more vm in that.
[05:04] <Derpadong> I wish my netbook did SATA drives but does SSD instead
[05:05] <cfedde> Derpadong: How is that a problem?
[05:06] <Derpadong> Cause I have a crap load of Sata drives in my room lol
[05:06] <ActionParsnip> Derpadong: are they laptop SATA drives?
[05:07] <intrader> Jordan_U, ubotin, I can locate file 'sudo bash ~/Desktop/boot_info_script*.sh'
[05:07] <cfedde> Derpadong: it's easy enough to hook one up to the lappy with a usb to sata adapter.
[05:07] <Derpadong> Its very tricky for this netbook
[05:07] <Derpadong> Its the original cr48 lol
[05:08] <intrader> Jordan_U, ubotin, I mean I can't locate 'sudo bash ~/Desktop/boot_info_script*.sh'
[05:08] <Derpadong> Chromebook
[05:08] <ActionParsnip> Derpadong: or build a low spec system and install them all in it in one big LVMS, make a big SAN :)
[05:08] <Jordan_U> intrader: sudo bash ~/Downloads/boot_info_script*.sh
[05:08] <cfedde> Derpadong: you have a cromebook with windows 7 on it?
[05:08] <Derpadong> Nah
[05:08] <cfedde> chromebook even.
[05:08] <shadykhan> my titlebars have died on all my windows how can i get them back?
[05:08] <Derpadong> My desktop has Windows 7 on it
[05:09] <cfedde> I'm lost again.
[05:09] <cfedde> oh well.
[05:10] <Jordan_U> intrader: Are you familiar with using the terminal?
[05:10] <Derpadong> cfedde: Sorry for confusing you lol
[05:10] <ted2012> hi. how to install like a weather forecast embedded on top right desktop?
[05:10] <intrader> Jordan_U, somewhat familiar with it
[05:11] <vuongdothanhhuy> it's call screenlet
[05:11] <vuongdothanhhuy> or you can use opera widget in Opera Browser also
[05:11] <ActionParsnip> !info indicator-weather | ted2012
[05:11] <vuongdothanhhuy> go to Ubuntu app center and search for screenlet
[05:12] <ted2012> ubottu: ok i'll check it out. thanks.
[05:12] <ted2012> vuongdothanhhuy: i'll check that out too. thanks.
[05:13] <Guest50961> Allow..
[05:13] <ANub_> ted2012: there's another one "Weather Plasma Widget".....u might wanna check that out as well
[05:13] <ted2012> ANub_: ok three options already. not sure which ones to go with
[05:13] <Fyodorovna> Jordan_U, the file name has changed on the bootscript now  bootinfoscript
[05:15] <lindsay> Bad news everyone! I have an HP DV4-1428DX with no microphone support whatsoever! Ubuntu 12.04 runs great on this machine besides this caveat. Will the users of this IRC channel be able to solve the issue?  Stay tuned!
[05:16] <ActionParsnip> lindsay: 12.04 isn't supported here
[05:16] <lindsay> Not until the 28th?
[05:16] <ActionParsnip> lindsay: ask in #ubuntu+1    like the MOTD clearly states....
[05:16] <vuongdothanhhuy> maybe it's a bug
[05:17] <lindsay> The MOTD does not fit on my screen, so excuse me.
[05:17] <vuongdothanhhuy> you can wait until next week, I think, to have 12.04 LTS, and then it's offically support here, I hope
[05:17] <lindsay> (resizes window) there it is...
[05:17] <Amdpc> Hi..I want the user password and admin password different ( like in fedora or rhel) ..Is it possible ?
[05:18] <Splashman> lindsay  go to the forum
[05:18] <Jordan_U> intrader: cd ~/Downloads/ && tar -xvf bootinfoscript-061.tar.gz && sudo ./bootinfoscript
[05:18] <lindsay> So you guys can't just give me a hand with the mic issue? I mean, there has been plenty of reports of this same issue on 11.10 and 11.04. I think it's an old enough issue to support anyway.
[05:19] <iFackedMyCat> S̵̹͔͓̠̮̙̗͇̯̻̰̽ͥ̽̽̔͜͜͠ͅÛ̴̵̢̪͓͙̪̱̲̬̳͖͉̊̔ͩ̿̍̋͊̇͞ͅĈ̨̛͎̪̗͔̭̘̅̈̋̚͘͞K̛͊ͥ͗ͯ̓̃̃̃ͦͪ̽̋ͣͪͧ҉̟͈̪̤͖̣̥ ̷̧̨̩͔̮̦͍̟̜̯̮̦̩̠̝̖͓̫̻̎̐ͭ͐̆̏̾ͯ̈̍̾͗͡I̱̯̺̥͛͐ͭ͆ͭ̋̎ͦ̀̔̔ͩͨ̌̀ͪ̀̚͟Tͫ̊͒̊͒̈͞͏̶̢͍̯̠̰̰̻͍̭̝̰͓̬͚͇̯͖͉́
[05:19] <lindsay> It simply has not worked across multiple versions
[05:19] <lindsay> I difress
[05:19] <lindsay> digress
[05:19] <SigmaWP> Is it normal for ctrl+shift+u to stop working if SCIM is installed?
[05:19] <isaac_> Hi, please help. I want the latest version of VLC which is 2.01, but the software manager thing only has version 1 something. Can someone either help me compile it from source, or find a download please?
[05:20] <Splashman> lindsay i dont know about that unit
[05:20] <ijewafiuj> http://www.marlborotech.com/Zalgo.html
[05:20] <lindsay> Splashman, Well thank you for your effort.
[05:20] <Splashman> but maybe there u can find a solution
[05:20] <ijewafiuj> (__(__)|||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||D ~ ~ ~
[05:20] <SigmaWP> ijewafiuj: :|
[05:21] <ijewafiuj> (__(__)|||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||D ~ ~ ~  { ~ }
[05:21] <ijewafiuj> NOM NOM NOM
[05:21] <SigmaWP> ijewafiuj: :|
[05:21] <FloodBot1> ijewafiuj: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[05:21]  * SigmaWP gives cookies to the FloodBot1
[05:22] <intrader> Jordan_U, got that - it is asking whether I should run this vesion (but it does no give version)
[05:23] <SigmaWP> Is it normal for ctrl+shift+u to stop working if SCIM is installed?
[05:23] <lindsay> I just don't iunderstand why someone can't just step outside the box and attempt to help me solve my issue. Even though 12.04 is nearly 3 days away! Nonetheless, this is not just a 12.04 issue. It is an issue that spans across multiple versions. It is not a 12.04 problem, it is an Ubuntu problem.
[05:23] <Splashman> lindsay hp is hard to get it with that quiestion
[05:24] <p0lym4th> hey guys
[05:24] <Splashman> questions*
[05:24] <q_> hello everyone
[05:24] <SigmaWP> hello?
[05:24] <Splashman> lindsay i remember a lot of problems with them
[05:25] <ActionParsnip> lindsay: your question is for an issue i 12.04, 12.04 is not supported here
[05:25] <q_> <looking for help getting a realtek mini pci wireless card (netbook) working with ubuntu
[05:25] <ActionParsnip> q_: what is the issue?
[05:25] <intrader> Jordan_U, got that - results in RESULTS.txt - ntfs on sda1, sda2 has the restore XP file, sda5 has the ext4 linux partition
[05:25] <q_> not working. shows no networks
[05:25] <q_> <running lubuntu
[05:26] <ActionParsnip> q_: can you please run:  sudo lshw -C network; lsb_release -a; uname -a; dmesg | grep -i firm      use http://pastie.org to host the output (or similar site). thanks
[05:26] <SigmaWP> Am I asking a stupid question?
[05:26] <Splashman> lindsay go here http://ubuntuforums.org/forumdisplay.php?f=412
[05:26] <Jordan_U> intrader:  Please pastebin the entire RESULTS.txt.
[05:27] <Splashman> and report
[05:27] <ActionParsnip> SigmaWP: its a fine question
[05:27] <ActionParsnip> SigmaWP: if nobody can reply, you won't see any replies. Try a little later so new users can join
[05:27] <SigmaWP> OK
[05:29] <intrader> Jordan_U, Please give me the pastebin url
[05:30] <Jordan_U> !pastebin | intrader
[05:30] <lindsay> ActionParsnip, My question is not restricted to 12.04 sir. This Mic either just doesn't work or has not been addressed as a problem in pervious version of Ubuntu. It is a Driver issue across the last 3 versions. It has not worked. Therefore it really does not matter if I have 12.04 or not. The version in this case is irrelevant. Therefore I would appreciate decent effort on anyone's part here in this channel. This channel is for suppo
[05:30] <lindsay> rt for versions that apply, and although my version of Ubuntu does not apply; my question does apply. If this were strictly a 12.04 issue, I would understand but it is not. Thank you.
[05:31] <ActionParsnip> lindsay: but thats the release you are running, so it's supported in #ubuntu+1
[05:31] <tensorpudding_> but only for another 35-40 hours or so
[05:31] <ActionParsnip> Jordan_U: can you fill lindsay in please
[05:32] <Jordan_U> intrader: I'll be back in about half an hour
[05:32] <intrader> Jordan_U, Please how to pastebin a file
[05:32] <ActionParsnip> intrader: where is the file located?
[05:34] <intrader> ActionParsnip, under ~/Downloads/forgrub/RESULTS.txt
[05:34] <ActionParsnip> intrader: sudo apt-get install pastebinit; pastebinit ~/Downloads/forgrub/RESULTS.txt
[05:34] <ActionParsnip> intrader: will generate a URL. What is the URL?
[05:35] <evildaemon> I need to mirror a portin of the ubuntu repos locally.
[05:35] <evildaemon> How would I do this?
[05:35] <evildaemon> *portion
[05:36] <ActionParsnip> lindsay: the version of ubuntu is very much the case as you have a beta kernel, beta alsa. All of it is unstable, unreleased and not ready. So it is a massive factor. I can have an OP tell you the same if you wish.
[05:36] <lindsay> ActionParsnip, It has come to my attention that you have specified a certain channel for me to join that pertains to my release of Ubuntu. I sincerely apologize for missing this earlier. I want to thank you for your patience and your gentleman qualities. You are, what makes this channel professional.
[05:36] <SigmaWP> ^
[05:36] <ActionParsnip> evildaemon: you can use apt-cacher if you wish
[05:36] <evildaemon> man apt-cacher
[05:36] <intrader> ActionParsnip, how to stop this scrolling window, I lost the stuff you wrote
[05:36] <ActionParsnip> lindsay: it;s cool dude, just maintaining channel policy :)
[05:36] <evildaemon> Or, sorry.
[05:36] <ActionParsnip> intrader: sudo apt-get install pastebinit; pastebinit ~/Downloads/forgrub/RESULTS.txt
[05:37] <lindsay> ActionParsnip, I salute you sir.
[05:37] <ActionParsnip> intrader: if you hide join / part messsages it will help
[05:37] <ActionParsnip> lindsay: np dude, thanks for being cool
[05:37] <ActionParsnip> lindsay: great addition to the community 8-)
[05:37] <Aquaguy> Hello
[05:38] <Aquaguy> is there any way to startup the system in terminal-mode by default?
[05:38] <ActionParsnip> Aquaguy: add the boot option: text
[05:38] <lindsay> ActionParsnip, Goodnight great sir.
[05:38] <Aquaguy> ActionParsnip, but that sets it to be the default startup mode?
[05:38] <intrader> ActionParsnip, the paste is paste.ubuntu.com/945165
[05:39] <Aquaguy> It's a server, I dont want it to start in desktop mode unless I tell it to do so
[05:39] <ActionParsnip> Aquaguy: yes
[05:39] <ActionParsnip> Jordan_U: you have your pastebin: http://paste.ubuntu.com/945165
[05:39] <ActionParsnip> intrader: it was Jordan_U whom wanted the paste ;)
[05:40] <intrader> ActionParsnip, yes, but hist name is a fog in my scrolled out screen!
[05:40] <ActionParsnip> intrader: whic client do you use
[05:41] <intrader> ActionParsnip, XCHAR
[05:41] <intrader> ActionParsnip, XCHAt
[05:42] <ActionParsnip> intrader: https://toxin.jottit.com/xchat_tips_&_tricks#09
[05:43] <ahhughes> of all the things, I can't get beep to work. It looks like since 10.04 (and I have 11.10) that there's been an effort to remove the pc speaker support and use the soundcards instead
[05:43] <intrader> ActionParsnip, thanks
[05:43] <SigmaWP> Is it normal for ctrl+shift+u to stop working if SCIM is installed?
[05:44] <ActionParsnip> ahhughes: in sound options you can crank the volume of beep
[05:44] <ANub_> Aquaguy:"http://www.cebuntu.com/how-to/how-to-boot-your-ubuntu-desktop-in-terminal-mode/"
[05:44] <ANub_> this might help
[05:44] <ActionParsnip> !text
[05:45] <intrader> Jordan_U, the paste you needed about the grub problem is /paste.ubuntu.com/945171
[05:48] <carving> Class begins
[05:49] <zzach> Is there any possibility to start init (or a similar program) standalone (i.e. traverse a directory and execute all files S00xxx, S01yyy etc)?
[05:50] <intrader> Jordan_U, are you still there?
[05:50] <SigmaWP> I am an idiot.
[05:50] <susundberg> zzach: see man find
[05:50] <ahhughes> ActionParsnip, if thats under settings -> sound. I have nothing there for the pc speaker. I do have an alert sound, but those are ubuntu sounds, not hardware sounds.
[05:51] <ActionParsnip> ahhughes: could load in the pcspkr module.
[05:51] <susundberg> zzach: something like find . |xargs -i XXX XXX could maybe work ..
[05:51] <susundberg> but i would certainly test that in some simulated case before running it in actual directory ..
[05:51] <ahhughes> modprobe finds, kernel/drivers/input/misc/pcspkr.ko
[05:54] <zzach> @susundberg: Thanks, will try it using find
[05:55] <myhero> whats k3b in aptoncd ?
[05:55] <Universal_mind> -> myhero <- à òû êòî òàêîé?
[05:55] <Zardonik> myhero hi
[05:55] <Jordan_U> intrader: Yes.
[05:56] <Zardonik> Jordan_U hi
[05:56] <myhero> zardonik hii
[05:56] <Zardonik> myhero you hoo?
[05:56] <ActionParsnip> myhero: k3b is the default cD burner in KDE.
[05:56] <Zardonik> myhero hu iz
[05:57] <myhero> whats k3b in aptoncd and brasero disc burner is installred already by default so why is it shown to install in K3b ?
[05:57] <Universal_mind> -> myhero <-mr. hi small peanut
[05:57] <intrader> Jordan_U, Ok
[05:57] <Zardonik> ActionParsnip aaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaauuuuuuuuuuuuu
[05:57] <myhero> zadonik who you....me me...!!!
[05:57] <myhero> kkk
[05:57] <Zardonik> myhero BITCH
[05:57] <Zardonik> kundak
[05:58] <myhero> zardonik dont pimp urself
[05:58] <Zardonik> myhero you karak idiot
[05:59] <Zardonik> I'm mighty Venezuelan DJ gbib
[05:59] <Zardonik> wikipedia
[05:59] <Zardonik> go
[05:59] <Lint> ehm, ops?
[05:59] <myhero> and you are motherfucker mr. zardonik....n mr. universal with no peanut....get lost....!!!
[05:59] <dr_willis> citation needed......
[05:59] <ahhughes> what does the following mean 'blacklist pcspkr' ?
[06:00] <Zardonik> myhero FU
[06:00] <Zardonik> bitch
[06:00] <dr_willis> ahhughes:  blacklist the module to keep it from getting loaded that is the default i think now a days
[06:00] <dr_willis> !blacklist
[06:01] <dr_willis> theres a /etc/modprobe.d/blacklist.conf i think that has pcspkr and other modules listed in it by default
[06:01] <Bennlucky7> so tomorrow is the final release 12.04 should i reintall it from 12.04 beta 2?
[06:01] <dr_willis> Bennlucky7:  shouldent matter
[06:02] <Bennlucky7> i hope so
[06:02] <darbe> any idea?   http://paste.ubuntu.com/945193/
[06:02] <dr_willis> update/upgrade now.. then wait  week or 2 to update/u[grade agin
[06:02] <Universal_mind> -> ahhughes <- Hi, still meet with his monkey?
[06:02] <Jordan_U> intrader: As I suspected, you accidentily installed grub's boot sector to your Windows PBR. Grub should always be installed to the mbr, never to a partition.
[06:03] <intrader> Jordan_U, I let 11.10 installer do it, I did not do it, that I know of.
[06:04] <Jordan_U> intrader: The Ubuntu installer never installs grub to a partition unless the user tells it to.
[06:04] <Universal_mind> -> intrader <- Hi, still meet with u'r monkey?
[06:04] <intrader> Jordan_U, I don't recall - so how do I fix?
[06:05] <dr_willis> !fixgrub
[06:05] <ahhughes> so dr_willis if I remove the blacklist pcspkr that might make my pc speaker work?
[06:05] <Jordan_U> intrader: http://sourceforge.net/apps/mediawiki/bootinfoscript/index.php?title=Boot_Problems:Boot_Sector
[06:06] <dr_willis> ahhughes:  no idea. you can  specifically load the module if  you want  to test it to se e if  it  works,,    sudo modprobe pcspkr
[06:06] <ahhughes> done, FAIL
[06:06] <ahhughes> thankyou for your help dr_willis and ActionParsnip
[06:06] <dr_willis> lack of details... is  lacking indetails.. ;)
[06:08] <MMan> hello all
[06:08] <dr_willis> ahhughes:  so what are yiou  doing  exactly and needing  to do:  how are  you testing this?
[06:08] <ActionParsnip> ahhughes: you can make it load at boot with:  echo "pcspkr" | sudo tee -a /etc/modules > /dev/null
[06:08] <darbe> why do I have problem after each upgrade?
[06:08] <darbe> http://paste.ubuntu.com/945193/
[06:08] <ActionParsnip> darbe: do you mean between releases?
[06:09] <darbe> ActionParsnip: yes
[06:09] <ActionParsnip> darbe: is gcc-4.6-base from a PPA?
[06:09] <darbe> ActionParsnip: i don't know
[06:09] <darbe> ActionParsnip: is it?
[06:10] <ActionParsnip> darbe: what is the output of:   apt-cache policy gcc-4.6-base; lsb_release -a
[06:10] <ActionParsnip> !info gcc-4.6-base
[06:10] <darbe> ActionParsnip: let me do it
[06:10] <darbe> ActionParsnip: http://paste.ubuntu.com/945209/
[06:10] <kaushal> Hi
[06:11] <kaushal> Any tool or application similar to Putty Connection Manager available on Ubuntu 11.10 ?
[06:11] <kaushal> which would have tabs
[06:11] <ActionParsnip> darbe: looks like you grabbed a deb and installed it, instead of using the repo
[06:11] <intrader> Jordan_U, It looks to me that there is a 11.10 problem with the selection of partitions or something. This problem should not have happened. I will try to fix.
[06:11] <kaushal> basically ssh connections
[06:11] <darbe> ActionParsnip: so?
[06:11] <ActionParsnip> !info putty | kaushal
[06:12] <MMan> sorry to bother, anyone with experiense at localnet installations? I got 1 desktop pc with windows xp and tftpd32.exe and a laptop who can boot from LAN, both are connected together no router just a lan cable. I need to install oneiric at laptop, i got desktop iso. Someone who can help?
[06:12] <darbe> info -f grub -n 'Simple configuration' putty | kaushal
[06:12] <darbe> info: grub: No such file or directory
[06:12] <darbe> kaushal: command not found
[06:12] <ActionParsnip> darbe: thats why you are getting broken deps, I suggest you uninstall gcc-4.6-base
[06:12] <kaushal> ActionParsnip: basically multiple tabs
[06:12] <ActionParsnip> kaushal: you can have multiple tabs in gnome-terminal....
[06:13] <pankaj> kaushal, there are loads of available  search on google
[06:13] <kaushal> ActionParsnip: i need to run a similar command on multiple servers
[06:13] <kaushal> pankaj: i did it already
[06:13] <ActionParsnip> kaushal: do you use ssh keys?
[06:13] <kaushal> ActionParsnip: nope
[06:13] <dr_willis> kaushal:  theres specific ssh tools for runningthesame command okd different servers also,
[06:13] <darbe> ActionParsnip: i got error http://paste.ubuntu.com/945212/
[06:13] <kaushal> dr_willis: yes
[06:14] <dr_willis> using keys  instead of passwords makes that task much easier..
[06:14] <ActionParsnip> kaushal: if you run:   ssh username@server df -h                     the df -h will be ran on the remote system
[06:15] <ActionParsnip> darbe: you can uninstall all those apps failing deps, then remove gcc-4.6-base. or you may be able to use dpkg to install only gcc-4.6-base from the official repos
[06:16] <ActionParsnip> darbe: this is why you don't mix debian debs into ubuntu
[06:17] <darbe> ActionParsnip: i don't know how it happened but i will try to install deb package
[06:17] <ahhughes> I have to say as much as I love this OS, its really doing my head in. So far I have had problems with graphics, power settings, hdmi audio, video codecs, bluetooth and now the pc speaker. If it was not for this chat room I would have uninstalled a long time ago.
[06:17] <dr_willis> id just remove  all theproblem packages.. check  your sources to  besure  you are using only  ubuntu ones.... then upgrade and  reinstall the apps
[06:17] <ActionParsnip> darbe: I'd just strip all the packages failing deps then uninstall the gcc-4.6-base package, then reinstall what you need using the repos
[06:18] <dr_willis> ahhughes:  codecs? cant say  ive had codec issues inages...
[06:18] <ActionParsnip> darbe: the version of gcc-4.6-base you have is in Debain Sid. The ONLY way this will have been installed is by a system admin
[06:18] <kaushal> when is 12.04 going to be released ?
[06:18] <kaushal> is it Apr 26 ?
[06:19] <dr_willis> when its done, l ;)
[06:19] <dr_willis> and anounced...
[06:19] <dr_willis> !schedule
[06:19] <ActionParsnip> kaushal: ask in #ubutu+1 for Precise support / questions please
[06:19] <pankaj> ActionParsnip, why cant i run ubuntu 11.10 (gui) in virtual box? is there any limitation ?
[06:19] <ActionParsnip> pankaj: you can, I suggest you use Unity2D to make the OS snappier
[06:20] <dr_willis> pankaj:  unity  likes 3d acell hardware. you may  wan tto use a differnt  desktop in vbox for better speeds
[06:20] <ActionParsnip> pankaj: you'll need the guest additions more than likely
[06:20] <ActionParsnip> dr_willis: unity2D will run well ;)
[06:20] <pankaj> ActionParsnip, already installed guest additions
[06:20] <dr_willis> when i do  it in  vbox i just ssh to the  vbox install. ;)
[06:20] <ActionParsnip> pankaj: log into the Unity2D session, should be ok
[06:20] <jpmaxwell> any opinions on the unity ui?
[06:21] <ActionParsnip> jpmaxwell: wrong channel dude
[06:21] <dr_willis> jpmaxwell:  it works.. there ya go..  got an actual support question?
[06:21] <jpmaxwell> no i appologize, just wanted to get active
[06:22] <ActionParsnip> jpmaxwell: try it, see what you think of it
[06:22] <dr_willis> read up on some of the unity guides also. a lot of the unity features are not obvious,
[06:23] <dr_willis> or are just evasy to  overlook
[06:23] <Blue1> dr_willis: do you have a link to those guides?
[06:23] <reader__> hai guys , I installed a xp in Vbox with host ubuntu now I need to communicate with two os how can I communicte with VBox and host
[06:24] <dr_willis> got some links at delicious.co/dr_willis
[06:24] <dr_willis> got some links at delicious.com/dr_willis
[06:24] <usr13> reader__: In what way do you want to communicate?
[06:24] <dr_willis> reader__:  communiate how? the vbox os and host share a common private network.
[06:25] <dr_willis> or you  can  put the vbox os on the host machines other network and it will appear on the lan as if  it was a real  machine
[06:25] <usr13> reader__: Can you be more specific as to what you really want to accomplish?
[06:25] <ActionParsnip> reader__: set the network to be bridged and it will get an IP from your router and be accessible like a new system on the LAN
[06:26] <reader__> usr13, like I need to rdesktop the Vbox os
[06:26] <swampthing> hello ladies
[06:27] <usr13> ActionParsnip probably has suggested what you need to do, set the guest os to bridged
[06:27] <reader__> usr13, k
[06:27] <usr13> ... I think ...
[06:28] <swampthing> does anyone know if directx can be installed on ubuntu... with wine perhaps?
[06:28] <dr_willis> from other pcs  on the lan = need bridged i think.  from host pc = not needed.
[06:28] <dr_willis> swampthing:  wine basically has directx allready. winetricks  can trick/tweak wine  some  for those problem games.
[06:29] <usr13> dr_willis: In other words, set the guest OS's network to bridged.  Right?
[06:29] <dr_willis> usr13:  yea. in  the vbox configs. I normally do  that anyway.  :)
[06:29] <usr13> dr_willis: Right.
[06:29] <swampthing> dr_willis: I want to play a webbrowser based game that requires directx (I think). Will winetricks remedy that?
[06:30] <dr_willis> i would wonder at a webbrowser game  that uses directx.....
[06:30] <dr_willis> swampthing:  check the wine channel and app database i would  suggest
[06:30] <dr_willis> !wine
[06:31] <usr13>  yea ... swampthing ... ask the folks on #winehq
[06:31] <swampthing> dr_willis: actually it's adobe shockwave that I need...
[06:32] <swampthing> for this game: http://www2.rasterwerks.com/game/phosphor/beta2.asp
[06:32] <dr_willis> shockwave? good luck with that.. no idea on it.
[06:32] <swampthing> lol. ok thanks anyway
[06:33] <dr_willis> you just dont hear much  about  shockwave  any more these days
[06:34] <alkisg> Hi, why does cp insist on copying the mode of the source file?
[06:34] <alkisg> # cp --no-preserve=mode /boot/vmlinuz-3.2.0-23-generic-pae .
[06:34] <alkisg> # ls -lha vmlinuz-3.2.0-23-generic-pae
[06:34] <alkisg> -rw------- 1 root root 4,8M Apr  25 09:33 vmlinuz-3.2.0-23-generic-pae
[06:38] <lasha> hello guys, I have problem with gnome classic/12.04 and compiz :S I can not right click on upper or bottom panel and also file manager for virtual desktops is bugging heavily
[06:38] <lasha> what could I fix or install for solution ?
[06:38] <pentagonpie> hava ubuntu 11.10 with KDE, trying to remove some default programs of KDE, But it says the kde-standard must also be removed, is it safe?
[06:39] <vuongdothanhhuy> it may be a bug, just wait for official release which will be avail in the next few days.
[06:39] <lasha> in 2 days :(
[06:39] <lasha> pentagonpie I dont recommend
[06:39] <vuongdothanhhuy> personally, it could be caused by vga driver
[06:40] <lasha> vuongdothanhhuy I have intel chipset with integrated graphic, I did not think about that, could it need driver ?
[06:40] <lasha> cause I didnt install any upon installation
[06:40] <lasha> of ubuntu i mean
[06:40] <pentagonpie> lasers, So I cant delete those programs with out deleting every thing?
[06:41] <lasha> pentagonpie: usually I would trial/error, if its gonna remove something that will bug you forever then reinstall OS
[06:44] <zykotick9> pentagonpie: breaking meta-packages is possible... but probably isn't worth the effort.
[06:44] <shadykhan> n
[06:46] <Flannel> pentagonpie: removing kde-standard just removes that package, it doesn't remove all of the packages in kde-standard.
[06:47] <Moon_Doggy> apt-get on android FTW
[06:47] <swampthing> where can I find a list for all the terminal commands?
[06:47] <Moon_Doggy> no idea
[06:47] <zykotick9> swampthing: from a terminal <TAB><TAB>
[06:48] <swampthing> cheers
[06:49] <dr_willis> that shows all binaries in your current path. ;)
[06:50] <zykotick9> dr_willis: isn't that "basically" a list of all command?
[06:50] <dr_willis> theres other  ommands that may not be in his path.. or not installed
[06:50] <zykotick9> true
[06:50] <dr_willis>  he could have been wanting some basic- bash command guides
[06:51] <swampthing> yes
[06:51] <dr_willis> then theres the bash builtin commands and alias's that may show up also.
[06:51] <dr_willis> yes to what.. ;) good guestions get good answers
[06:51] <boss> hola
[06:52] <boss> kk
[06:52] <Guest3729> joss
[06:52] <Guest3729> holaaaaaaaaa dije
[06:52] <swampthing> how do i find out what any of those 'commands' actually do?
[06:52] <Guest3729> nop
[06:52] <_xan_> man <command>
[06:52] <zykotick9> swampthing: "man man"
[06:52] <swampthing> other than just running them that is
[06:52] <llutz_> swampthing: "whatis command" or "man command"
[06:53] <pankaj> info command
[06:53] <Guest3729> gold joss
[06:53] <swampthing> ok
[06:53] <Guest3729> joss <gold>
[06:53] <Guest3729> jeje
[06:53] <Guest3729> quien anda ahi
[06:57] <doc-saintly> Can anyone help me figure out why VNC isn't working on my server? I've removed/re-installed vino, done the preferences and the desktop sharing and I still can't connect into it
[06:57] <dr_willis> !bash
[07:04] <reader__> usr13, I set up the network bridged . Now I need to connect guest os to my localhost how to get connect to host localhost
[07:07] <reader__>  I set up the network in Vbox guest as bridged . Now I need to connect guest os to my localhost how to get connect to host localhost
[07:10] <llutz_> reader__: use the local hosts LAN-IP to connect to it
[07:14] <reader__> llutz,  My host ip is 192.168.2.103 when I type this address in guest browser it is not connecting to the local apache server
[07:14] <fidel_> reader__: can you ping that host?
[07:15] <llutz_> reader__: check guests network-settings. check your apache-config: is it listening on all adresses?
[07:15] <reader__> fidel_, yeah I can ping to host
[07:15] <llutz_> reader__: sudo lsof -i :80      on host
[07:18] <reader__> llutz,  I got this output http://paste.ubuntu.com/945278/
[07:19] <llutz_> reader__: :80  only, next time pls :)  apache listens, so check guests network-settings again
[07:27] <versus_> Hello!
[07:27] <Moon_Doggy> hi
[07:27] <versus_> Is there any (good) reason to update Xubuntu 11.10 tommorow?
[07:28] <llutz_> versus_: no
[07:28] <versus_> or that update good only for unity fans ? :)
[07:28] <versus_> thx :)
[07:28] <versus_> ok....wait for stable xfce 4.10
[07:31]  * Moon_Doggy uses gnome3
[07:32] <cocolos> Help: I get a xdpyingo: unable to display ":0" error when I ssh into my ubuntu machine. any ideas?
[07:36] <ActionParsnip> cocolos: are you connecting with the -X option?
[07:36] <cocolos> ActionParsnip: I tried both I get the same thing
[07:38] <ActionParsnip> cocolos: does the system you connect to have an x server running?
[07:38] <cocolos> not sure
[07:39] <ActionParsnip> cocolos: because that's what xdpyingo is for, to get details of the x server: http://linux.die.net/man/1/xdpyinfo
[07:39] <ActionParsnip> cocolos: so if no x server is running, it wouldexplain why
[07:39] <cocolos> ok
[07:39] <cocolos> how would i restart it
[07:40] <ActionParsnip> cocolos: you'd need to run:  startx    but if you are connected via SSH it will display on the client afaik
[07:41] <cocolos> oh
[07:42] <cocolos> ActionParsnip: what would you suggest
[07:42] <ActionParsnip> cocolos: did you install ubuntu server by any chance?
[07:42] <cocolos> ActionParsnip: no
[07:43] <ActionParsnip> cocolos: what is the output of:  lsb_release -sc    on the server side?
[07:43] <cocolos> lucid
[07:43] <manolitos> morning
[07:44] <manolitos> I have a easy question, any one can help me?
[07:44] <ActionParsnip> cocolos: and what desktop environment are you using?
[07:44] <ActionParsnip> manolitos: ask and see
[07:44] <cocolos> ActionParsnip: gnome
[07:45] <ActionParsnip> cocolos: if you run:  apt-cache policy ubuntu-desktop     is it installed?
[07:45] <cocolos> yea
[07:46] <cocolos> ActionParsnip: what are you thinking?
[07:46] <manolitos> i'm usin ssh with public keys, and my question is if i change my password, i need to change somethin in the public key?
[07:46] <manolitos> i think that no... but i'm no sure...
[07:46] <llutz_> manolitos: no
[07:46] <ActionParsnip> cocolos: for some reason the x server hasn't started but enough boot has completed to complete the network setup and start the SSH server
[07:47] <cocolos> ActionParsnip: yea but I can do X11 forwarding
[07:47] <manolitos> ok perfect! I can change my user password and i will continue having access by keys, right?
[07:47] <ActionParsnip> cocolos: hmm, weird. I'd check on the local system somehow (smarthands request) to see what's going on
[07:47] <llutz_> manolitos: yes
[07:48] <manolitos> thx very much!
[07:48] <blackbear008> ?
[07:48] <blackbear008> hello
[07:48] <faryshta> can you recommend me a good browser besides chrome and firefox?
[07:49] <blackbear008> any one can write C program?
[07:49] <blackbear008> Maxthon
[07:49] <blackbear008> - faryshta, Maxthon
[07:49] <_xan_> faryshta: Opera?
[07:49] <faryshta> blackbear008, maxthon isn't free software.
[07:49] <ActionParsnip> blackbear008: with the right knowhow, I'm sure they could
[07:50] <_xan_> faryshta: what are you looking for?
[07:50] <ActionParsnip> faryshta: midori, chromium
[07:50] <faryshta> _xan_, some browser to use with tor.
[07:50] <fragrant> Hi, how can i make a pdf file from 4 pdf files? I need to merge those 4 into one.
[07:50] <ActionParsnip> faryshta: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_web_browsers   go crazy
[07:51] <cocolos> ActionParsnip: thanks
[07:51] <faryshta> ActionParsnip, I think midori will do.
[07:51] <ActionParsnip> fragrant: http://www.debianadmin.com/combine-multiple-pdfs-into-one-file-in-ubuntu-linux.html
[07:51] <ActionParsnip> midori is awesome
[07:52] <blackbear008> - faryshta, Maxthon is free.
[07:52] <ActionParsnip> sadly arora has been shelved :-(
[07:53] <blackbear008> http://www.maxthon.cn/
[07:53] <blackbear008> http://dl.maxthon.cn/mx3/mx3.3.7.2000cn.exe
[07:53] <blackbear008> does any one can write C program
[07:53] <blackbear008> ?
[07:53] <ActionParsnip> blackbear008: try in #c
[07:54] <blackbear008> NO body in channel #c
[07:54] <shm> Hi tehre, is there any list of users which can be added with package installation?
[07:54] <ActionParsnip> blackbear008: or #C++
[07:54] <blackbear008> OK
[07:54] <ActionParsnip> blackbear008: or #programming
[07:54] <blackbear008> I am tring.
[07:54] <blackbear008> trying
[07:55] <Somefellow> .
[07:55] <shm> Or list of reserved uids for the packages?
[07:57] <uofm49426> hey guy something wierd is it youtube you flash problem running beta 2
[07:57] <uofm49426> but well you need to see my screen shots
[07:57] <ActionParsnip> uofm49426: ask in #ubuntu+1 please
[07:58] <solars> can anyone recommend a lightweight gui svn client?
[07:59] <llutz_> shm: i doubt theres a list for that. basically all UIDs <1000 are reserved for system-users
[07:59] <ActionParsnip> !info rapidsvn
[07:59] <ActionParsnip> !info rabbitvcs
[08:00] <ActionParsnip> !info  nautilussvn
[08:00] <shm> llutz_: What about list of usernames?
[08:00] <llutz_> shm: i doubt theres a list for that. (2)
[08:00] <uofm49426> its not a only 12.04 problem its a ubuntu thing because it did this in 11.10 also you install 12.04 today
[08:01] <ActionParsnip> solars: sudo add-apt-repository ppa:rabbitvcs; sudo apt-get update; sudo apt-get install rabbitvcs-nautilus
[08:01] <ActionParsnip> uofm49426: then the issue is in Precise, which is not supported here til release
[08:01] <ActionParsnip> solars: tat willmake svn accessible via nautilus :)
[08:02] <ianle> hola is somebody here?
[08:02] <ianle> hello?
[08:03] <ActionParsnip> ianle: many
[08:03] <solars> ActionParsnip, I know it already, but I'm not using nautilus .. :) but I'll give it a try agian, thank you
[08:03] <ianle> kk i need a little help
[08:03] <ActionParsnip> solars: its the default file manager in ubuntu
[08:03] <ActionParsnip> ianle: ask away
[08:03] <ChrisFromTheBay> Has anyone set up a GIT repo on Ubuntu?
[08:03] <ianle> my sound dosent work so i cant read a vocaroo voice
[08:04] <ActionParsnip> ianle: what is the output of: wget -O alsa-info.sh http://www.alsa-project.org/alsa-info.sh && chmod +x ./alsa-info.sh && ./alsa-info.sh
[08:04] <ianle> so you can tell what it does says?
[08:04] <ActionParsnip> ianle: it will give a lot of details about your sound setup and configs
[08:05] <ianle> what does it says?: http://vocaroo.com/i/s01t8MeFJ8Jx
[08:06] <ianle> i just need to know what it says thats all
[08:07] <ianle> i cant hear it since my sound is pretty much busted... im on a crappy olc pc lol
[08:07] <ianle> well?
[08:07] <ActionParsnip> ianle: that's not the output of the command I gave, is it?
[08:08] <ActionParsnip> ianle: so whydo I need that link you gave me in any way?
[08:08] <ActionParsnip> ianle: well?
[08:08] <ianle> because i need to know what it says?
[08:08] <ianle> my old pc is almost finished
[08:09] <multiHYP> hi all, what a wonderful rainy day :/
[08:09] <alumno> que coño es esto? xD
[08:09] <ActionParsnip> ianle: then why not say that, instead of digging up some worthless URL?
[08:10] <multiHYP> is there a specific file format rss feed icons need to be in?
[08:10] <multiHYP> mine is png but not showing… :(
[08:10] <ianle> worthless? i just need to know what he's saying man
[08:11] <ActionParsnip> ianle: no, i need to know your sound setup
[08:11] <alumno20> hello
[08:11] <ActionParsnip> ianle: copy the whole line I gave and paste it into a terminal, select to upload to the server and a URL will be genrated, what is the URL please
[08:12] <ianle> cant you understad it? my old pc is almost dead
[08:12] <alumno20> Go chelsea
[08:12] <ianle> lol guess you cant tell me what it does says
[08:12] <visof> hello
[08:12] <ActionParsnip> ianle: i don't speak the language, but its clear enough here
[08:12] <alumno20> Go Real Madrid
[08:12] <ianle> it's french?
[08:12] <alumno20> spanish
[08:13] <visof> how can add share permissions to folder that is at / ?
[08:13] <ianle> what does it says?
[08:13] <ActionParsnip> ianle: until you get the link I am unable to assist. Your move
[08:13] <alumno20> how are you?
[08:13] <ianle> there: http://vocaroo.com/i/s01t8MeFJ8Jx
[08:14] <ActionParsnip> ianle: tat's not the link made by the alsa script
[08:14] <ianle> man
[08:14] <ianle> just telle me what it says
[08:14] <ActionParsnip> ianle: I don't speak the language
[08:14] <alumno20> Wath's up!!!!!!!!
[08:14] <ianle> i dont need to reslove my sounds problems cuz its half-burnded lol
[08:15] <ActionParsnip> ianle: how can I tell you what it says when it's not in english
[08:15] <alumno20> talk spanish?
[08:15] <ianle> well say the words or letters?
[08:15] <ActionParsnip> ianle: ho can I translate something when I can't understand any of it
[08:15] <ActionParsnip> ianle: if you run the SIMPLE command I gave I can assist.I'm not playing this guessing game
[08:15] <alumno20> spanish siesta
[08:16] <theishi> My computer is creating a high pitched squeal from the internal speakers. No sound is playing, but it usually (not always) occurs once I attempt to join a google hangout (before actually entering). I think this is somehow related to my microphone... Not sure how to trouble shoot it
[08:16] <ianle> then the prononciation?
[08:16] <alumno20> angeeel
[08:16] <ianle> and gimme the code
[08:16] <ianle> i mean command
[08:16] <ActionParsnip> (09:04:02) ActionParsnip: ianle: what is the output of: wget -O alsa-info.sh http://www.alsa-project.org/alsa-info.sh && chmod +x ./alsa-info.sh && ./alsa-info.sh
[08:17] <ActionParsnip> ianle: does scroll up not work in youor IRC client or something?
[08:18] <ianle>  dmesg
[08:18] <ianle>   lspci
[08:18] <ianle>   lsmod
[08:18] <ianle>   aplay
[08:18] <ianle>   amixer
[08:18] <FloodBot1> ianle: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[08:18] <ianle>   alsactl
[08:19] <ActionParsnip> ianle: a red url will be made, we need that
[08:19] <alumno20> windows
[08:21] <ianle> ActionParsnip> http://www.alsa-project.org/db/?f=74b3bf9188b333f8d92f4d9bd88116e68e9dec40
[08:21] <ActionParsnip> ianle: thank you
[08:22] <ianle> np
[08:22] <ActionParsnip> ianle: so do you get some sounds, no sounds or low quality sounds?
[08:22] <ActionParsnip> ianle: are you using HDMI sound, or speakers?
[08:23] <ianle> no sounds at all and speakers of my screen
[08:24] <ActionParsnip> ianle: ok run:   alsamixer      are all levels unmuted and cranked?
[08:24] <jhakhas> frm wer 2 download .deb packages so as to install them offline afterwards?
[08:25] <Gallomimia> same place as you download them when online
[08:25] <jhakhas> means
[08:25] <Gallomimia> i have a question as i'm trying to install a .deb it tells me unmet dependancies. how can i make it install those dependencies?
[08:25] <ianle> yeah
[08:25] <ActionParsnip> ianle: if all looks ok run this: http://paste.ubuntu.com/945342/
[08:26] <jhakhas> when online i get them frm software center but how to download frm there coz there its only online install available ?
[08:26] <LoRd_UnDeRwOrLd_> hi guys im using 10.04 and cant manage to install fonts, tried both "install button" after running font.file and tried to put them in usr/share/fonts/truetype, they are there but no program sees them... help?
[08:26] <Gallomimia> jhakhas: they come from places listed in your sources file. read about apt-get sources
[08:26] <mathews> Gallomimia, try to install from synaptics or through software center.
[08:26] <ianle> why should i reboot?
[08:26] <jhakhas> ok but how to save them locally ?
[08:26] <Gallomimia> mathews: it is server edition. no gui
[08:27] <Gallomimia> jhakhas: try wget or curl
[08:27] <Jordan_U> !offline | jhakhas
[08:27] <Gallomimia> it is a basic http server that sends it to you w
[08:27] <mathews> Gallomimia, sorry. I am helpless
[08:27] <ActionParsnip> ianle: makes the OS reload alsa with the fresh settings
[08:27] <Gallomimia> oh awesome :)
[08:27] <Gallomimia> i think i should ask in server channel
[08:27] <ActionParsnip> !fonts | LoRd_UnDeRwOrLd_
[08:28] <LoRd_UnDeRwOrLd_> ActionParsnip: so you're saying even if i installed them ubuntu doesnt know how to read .ttf files?
[08:29] <ianle> ok did you do any study into computering? im just curious
[08:29] <Gallomimia> !define:computering
[08:31] <ianle> hi?
[08:31] <po0dle> Hi
[08:31] <po0dle> My ubuntu keeps crashing and I can't figure out why
[08:31] <aLBa^> good lord
[08:32] <Lint> LoRd_UnDeRwOrLd_, usually fonts are available immediately after copying
[08:32] <lollipopa> yo
[08:33] <LoRd_UnDeRwOrLd_> Lint: not here...
[08:34] <ActionParsnip> LoRd_UnDeRwOrLd_: you just need a little more config
[08:35] <LoRd_UnDeRwOrLd_> ActionParsnip: ?? ttf-mscorefonts, gs fonts etc are all already installed
[08:35] <ianle> answer my question?
[08:36] <LoRd_UnDeRwOrLd_> ActionParsnip: fc-cache -f -v done, but nothing it just doesnt see them
[08:39] <vlt> Hello. Where to put a script that shoule be run everytime I log in?
[08:39] <vlt> *should
[08:40] <DA> slm
[08:40] <ActionParsnip> LoRd_UnDeRwOrLd_: did you put the file in ~/.fonts
[08:40] <LoRd_UnDeRwOrLd_> also there
[08:41] <LoRd_UnDeRwOrLd_> the folder was empty, now there are these 2 fonts
[08:41] <LoRd_UnDeRwOrLd_> they're there, they are in /usr/share/fonts/truetype
[08:41] <faweideniu> hello
[08:41] <johns> hello
[08:41] <LoRd_UnDeRwOrLd_> and i also installed them with the install button on the popup window once you click on the .ttf file itself
[08:43] <Tuncay-URFA> selem millet
[08:44] <azl> window decoration disappears when i use alt+tab button
[08:44] <ActionParsnip> LoRd_UnDeRwOrLd_: have you tied a reboot, just to cover all bases?
[08:44] <azl> any one help
[08:44] <ActionParsnip> azl: what is the output of:  lsb_release -sc
[08:44] <azl> yep
[08:45] <faweideniu> i wanna GF
[08:45] <azl> natty
[08:45] <ActionParsnip> faweideniu: wrong channel dude
[08:45] <ActionParsnip> azl: and what video chip do you use?
[08:45] <faweideniu> :-S
[08:46] <azl> may i know thecmmd to find my video chip
[08:46] <azl> ??
[08:46] <ActionParsnip> azl: lspci | grep -i vga
[08:47] <azl> 00:02.0 VGA compatible controller: Intel Corporation 82G33/G31 Express Integrated Graphics Controller (rev 10)
[08:47] <LoRd_UnDeRwOrLd_> ActionParsnip: many times...
[08:47] <ActionParsnip> azl: are there any bugs reported with compiz?
[08:48] <ActionParsnip> azl: for that chip and the decorators etc
[08:48] <azl> i installed compiz but later i removed that
[08:48] <Moon_Doggy> i removed compiz and unity
[08:49] <alusion> I'm trying to configure backup but it keeps saying Backup Failed Error creating directory: Permission denied
[08:49] <alusion> I'm trying to install to a backup folder on a USB external hdd or perhaps my ubuntu one.
[08:49] <vuongdothanhhuy> alusion: could you please explain more?
[08:49] <vuongdothanhhuy> where are you going to save the backup?
[08:50] <azl> helloo
[08:50] <alusion> I am using settings backup, unless there is a better program out there ?
[08:50] <faweideniu> i wanna girlfriend
[08:51] <alusion> I am also apparently running low on disk space lol
[08:51] <alusion> Which is preposterous
[08:51] <vuongdothanhhuy> I myself set Deja Backup to Ubuntu One and has no problem.
[08:51] <ianle> faweideniu: stfu
[08:51] <azl> helloo isssue while using alt+tab with ubuntu 11.10
[08:52] <ActionParsnip> alusion: wat file system is the partition you are backing up to?
[08:52] <ActionParsnip> azl: you aren't using 11.10. You are using 11.04
[08:52] <alusion> Oh... I see...
[08:52] <ActionParsnip> azl: natty is 11.04
[08:52] <alusion> It is an ntfs drive..
[08:52] <vuongdothanhhuy> if you backup to Ubuntu One, unchoose the folder for syncronize, and thus, save space!
[08:52] <ActionParsnip> azl: tried a different ALT+TAB plugin, like the ring changer?
[08:52] <azl> am saying abt another system srry
[08:52] <vuongdothanhhuy> Ops, NTFS?
[08:53] <azl> that is 11.10
[08:53] <ActionParsnip> azl: makes support that much harder :(
[08:54] <ActionParsnip> azl: try a different ALT+TAB plugin, may be an issue with the one you are using
[08:54] <alusion> Is deja-vu the default with ubuntu 11.10?
[08:54] <ianle> ActionParsnip : y u no answer my question?
[08:54] <ActionParsnip> alusion: there is deja-dup
[08:54] <alusion> Ah that's the one I have currently
[08:54] <vuongdothanhhuy> maybe NTFS cause the problem, try with Ubuntu One or linux partition
[08:55] <ActionParsnip> ianle: I studied networking, I've used Linux a fair while
[08:55] <ActionParsnip> ianle: it got lost in the melee
[08:55] <shomon> hi anyone know if toshiba z830s work well with ubuntu?
[08:55] <alusion> Yeah that's the thing its cool, I have ubuntu installed atop of windows and I am running low on disk space, the matter is complicated because of a shortage of storage atm
[08:55] <alusion> So I have to choose which ones I want for backup and which for file systems, and I am very cautious so I have a backup of my backup
[08:56] <faweideniu> i wanna boyfriend
[08:56] <enchilado> faweideniu: #ubuntu-hookups
[08:56] <kaiowas> I have a question, everytime i start up my computer in Ubuntu i get "You have a .local server running bla bla.. This will be disabled" Does this have any effect on my internet experience? I think its something my isp is using, because its nothing i have enabled.
[08:56] <alusion> on a seperate drive lol. I think I will clear up some space and some sense of peace with online backup and that will solve my problem.
[08:56] <ActionParsnip> !ops | faweideniu
[08:56] <ianle> ActionParsnip : np and sounds good... how long did you studied?
[08:56] <ActionParsnip> ianle: 4 years uni, then much experience in jobs etc
[08:56] <enchilado> faweideniu: other users on that channel are hidden by default to protect their identities, to make them visible just do ALT+F4
[08:57] <dax> faweideniu: yes hello. freenode is an open source programming computer network. nobody here is interested in dating you.
[08:57] <ianle> ActionParsnip : what degree?
[08:57] <enchilado> dax: hey, speak for yourself
[08:57] <ActionParsnip> ianle: computer communications
[08:57] <dax> damnit enchilado, I told you, you're paired off
[08:57] <hp> update in progress this may take  some time
[08:58] <enchilado> dax: oh, but he has such a cute nick :( :( :(
[08:58] <faweideniu> a joke
[08:58] <ActionParsnip> azl: in ccsm, select a different item to alt+tab with, ring switcher is an alternative
[08:58] <ianle> Bac or master?
[08:58] <faweideniu> ;-)
[08:58] <ActionParsnip> ianle: bsc
[08:59] <kaiowas> uh oh.. my trackpad stopped working now. Weird..
[08:59] <Tm_T> faweideniu: hi, this channel is not for jokes, so please stick in the channel topic, thanks
[08:59] <ActionParsnip> kaiowas: do you have a shortcut to disable/enable it?
[08:59] <faweideniu> :-(
[08:59] <Guest4045> faweideniu: next time...don't make joke otherwise you'll be bullied by angry nerds
[08:59] <ServerCrash> hi, does anyone knows how to disable keyboard for a specific user?
[09:00] <ActionParsnip> Guest4045: nothing of the sort. Maintaining the channel policies
[09:00] <vuongdothanhhuy> kaiowas, I have that problem too, sometimes when the computer wakes up from sleep, touchpad just stops working, solution is restart :D
[09:00] <ActionParsnip> Guest4045: there is a lot of difference
[09:00] <kaiowas> not that i know of.. Im new to ubuntu. I just did an update and it worked when i rebooted.. But now it suddenly stopped working. Gonna see if i can find a external mouse.
[09:00] <kaiowas> vuongdothanhhuy, but i just.. DID that.. :(
[09:00] <ActionParsnip> kaiowas: could unload then reload the device module
[09:00] <hp> i installed ubuntu, mouse crashed and failing, advice?
[09:01] <shomon> is there a page somewhere telling how good support is for particular toshiba models in ubuntu?
[09:01] <Myrtti> !hcl | shomon
[09:01] <shomon> thanks Myrtti
[09:01] <kaiowas> ActionParsnip, assume that im 5 years old and i might understand what you are saying ;). No seriously, do you mean in terminal or in settings?
[09:01] <mathews> kaiowas, pls see the "mouse" from preference menu
[09:02] <ActionParsnip> kaiowas: try:  sudo modprobe -r psmouse; sleep 3; sudo modprobe psmouse
[09:02] <kaiowas> plugged in a "real" mouse now, that works.
[09:02] <ActionParsnip> shomon: http://www.linux-on-laptops.com/toshiba.html
[09:04] <kaiowas> ActionParsnip, no that didn't work :(
[09:04] <kaiowas> mathews, i did, cant find anything wrong ;(.
[09:04] <ActionParsnip> kaiowas: what make and model is the system?
[09:05] <kaiowas> its a macbook Pro running ubuntu 11.10.
[09:05] <kaiowas> macbook pro 2008 model.
[09:06] <kaiowas> Worked everytime until i updated 87 packages today.
[09:06] <ActionParsnip> kaiowas: pay over the odds for a macbook, then run Ubuntu on it. Apple lauging all the way to the bank
[09:06] <Haffe> ActionParsnip: I am a bit interested.
[09:07] <kaiowas> ActionParsnip, i use OSX alot, i sell Apple computers :). I've installed Ubuntu to learn something new. I like it so far.
[09:07] <Haffe> Is there a non-apple laptop with the same build quality as a MBP?
[09:07] <ActionParsnip> Haffe: system76 is pretty sweet
[09:07] <Haffe> Last time I heard, even Linus himself runs linux on a macbook, for the build quality of the hardware.
[09:07] <kaiowas> And, ive used this computer for 5 years now, ALOT. And it still works GREAT.
[09:08] <Haffe> ActionParsnip: Ok, that might be worth looking into.
[09:08] <ActionParsnip> Haffe: probably cheaper and faster too
[09:08] <frogzoo> after last update, 4G wireless (Sierra 320U with sierra drivers) has stopped working
[09:08] <frogzoo> the device is there, dhcp works, just doesn't pass any traffic (can't ping 8.8.8.8)
[09:09] <Haffe> ActionParsnip: Ok.
[09:09] <frogzoo> is getting pretty old every 2nd update, networking breaks
[09:09] <ActionParsnip> kaiowas: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/MacBook%20Aluminum#Trackpad   did you do that stuff?
[09:09] <ActionParsnip> frogzoo: which release?
[09:09] <frogzoo> 11.10
[09:09] <ActionParsnip> frogzoo: are there bugs reported?
[09:10] <frogzoo> noop
[09:10] <mathews> kaiowas, pls see this link. http://askubuntu.com/search?q=touchpad+not+working+in+macpro&submit=search. It might help u.
[09:10] <ActionParsnip> frogzoo: i suggest you report one then
[09:10] <frogzoo> meh
[09:11] <kaiowas> Thanks alot guys, gonna try this.
[09:13] <azl> window decoration or GUI disappears while using alt+tab in ubuntu 11.10
[09:13] <ActionParsnip> kaiowas: i'd virtualise Ubuntu on your mac, you'll probably have an easier time.
[09:13] <ActionParsnip> azl: did you try ring switcher?
[09:13] <azl> no//
[09:13] <azl> how
[09:14] <ActionParsnip> azl: use ccsm, like I said earlier....
[09:14] <arun__> when ubuntu 12.04 is releasing?
[09:14] <kaiowas> ActionParsnip, I did that, but i wanna learn it for real. And to be honest, it was slow when i virtualised it.
[09:14] <ActionParsnip> kaiowas: as a mac seller, can you answer me a quick mac question please
[09:14] <kaiowas> ActionParsnip, sure i can give it a try.
[09:14] <shomon> Myrtti - that link leads to a page that says it's out of date
[09:14] <shomon> the laptop tracker is now community managed apparently
[09:14] <azl> yea i used but i removed that
[09:15] <ActionParsnip> kaiowas: Mac Pro RAID Card [Add $700.00]      why so much, its a 256Mb RAID card....
[09:15] <ActionParsnip> azl: that's where you'd set it
[09:15] <kaiowas> To be honest, some things even I don't understand. Its expensive, but on the other hand.. It works.
[09:15] <kaiowas> Thats the best answer i can give you.
[09:16] <azl> oh then i might ve done that wat shud i do now??
[09:16] <fidel_> ActionParsnip: what kind of answer you you expect on that? apple sells/sold several hw-parts way over the price in the past - and partly does still now. i.e. gfx-cards for a pro
[09:16] <fidel_> i doubt there is a real answer besides: because i can
[09:16] <fidel_> i/they
[09:16] <kaiowas> or "It just works".
[09:16] <ActionParsnip> fidel_: its the mac store. Just wondered why mac stuff was so overpriced from someone with reselling experience
[09:17] <ActionParsnip> kaiowas: I look after servers that cost about that much and they 'just work' too
[09:17] <fidel_> ActionParsnip: i got that - but i guess you should never wonder about price politics - saves time ;)
[09:17] <kaiowas> I've never sold a Mac Pro tbh. They usually make the phonecall. I'm in a store.
[09:17] <ActionParsnip> fidel_: i just think its hilarious and wondered if there was an intelligent reply, but there isn't
[09:17] <JoMs> Hello, I'm trying to edit the screenrc and make myself a cool screen. But, now suddenly one line just "hangs" in my screen. It won't go away even when I removed my changes in screenrc, and tried to run source. It's gone when I run a new screen, but I really don't want to restart this one
[09:17] <azl> how to reset that if i tried ringswithcer
[09:17] <fidel_> ActionParsnip: there is for sure none ;)
[09:17] <JoMs> anyone have a tip?
[09:18] <kaiowas> ActionParsnip, I understand that. But if you talk to people that have a Mac Pro, they are usually very very happy with it. Because it does what they want and do it flawlessly. And they had something before that wasnt apple and also "Just worked" but are happier with the Mac Pro. Why? I have no answer, i never use a Mac Pro.
[09:18] <ActionParsnip> azl: disable it and re-enable the one you had before
[09:19] <ActionParsnip> kaiowas: my Dell D420 does 100% out of the box in Ubuntu....works flawlessly. Probably costs a tiny fraction of your mac thing
[09:19] <fidel_> the pro is a nice device - no doubt. got > 10 of those here at work. lovely silent ...nevertheless i sold mine
[09:19] <bazhang> !ot
[09:19] <fidel_> it gets ugly if you have hw-issues on those boxes
[09:20] <fidel_> or need memory for an old pro ;)
[09:20] <bazhang> lets get back to ubuntu support please
[09:20] <fidel_> yep
[09:20] <Guest4045> kaiowas: mac book pro is for people who have no interest in learning to solve their own problems
[09:20] <Nathan_> hey ActionParsnip, does you dell's wireless internet run smoothly?
[09:20] <sk1special> anyone know how to make my graphics card driver install not disappear my second monitor?
[09:21] <ActionParsnip> Nathan_: indeed, no issues with Intel Corporation PRO/Wireless 3945ABG [Golan]    even after suspend or hibernate
[09:21] <vuongdothanhhuy> installing Ubuntu got 2 case: case 1. fully driver hardware support, then...wonderful; case 2. oops. driver lack, incompatible, then you gonna have a fighting with Linux command, compling driver, etc :D
[09:21] <kaiowas> Guest4045, Probably, and there are many like that.
[09:21] <Nathan_> that's great. I have a new toshiba satelite and an old IBM, and the wireless doesn't work on either
[09:22] <Guest54582> can anybody tell me how to put the aptana program on my unity panel
[09:22] <hp> got the os as a trail, quite interesting, tho i didnt make the partation bigenough
[09:23] <JoMs> Hello, I'm trying to edit the screenrc and make myself a cool screen. But, now suddenly one line just "hangs" in my screen. It won't go away even when I removed my changes in screenrc, and tried to run source. It's gone when I run a new screen, but I really don't want to restart this one. Anyone have a tip?
[09:23] <ActionParsnip> vuongdothanhhuy: i have a buddy who uses ubuntu as there are no win7 drivers for his scanner, ubuntu picks it up out of the box
[09:23] <vuongdothanhhuy> to put a program on Unity bar, you get an option when installing it, or just run the program, right click on the icon of it on the Unity bar and select Keep...
[09:24] <azl> kkk thax i will try this
[09:24] <azl> i cannot try now as am havin that issue on another system
[09:24] <vuongdothanhhuy> ActionParsnip, Oh, I wish that was true in my case, when I was running Ubuntu 10.04, and fighting to get my wifi card working
[09:26] <Bennlucky7> hello..
[09:26] <ActionParsnip> vuongdothanhhuy: back in the day people would need to comple kernels to get certain CD writers going. I had to compile acer_wmi (now in the default kernel) to get my acer's wifi to even be seen as a peice of hardware, then ndiswrapper due to broadcom not having the handy firmware cutter available now
[09:26] <ActionParsnip> vuongdothanhhuy: trust me, its a cake walk now
[09:26] <pratz> hey guys i followed this http://ashu-geek.blogspot.in/2012/03/banshee-240-released-with-dvd-playback.html and tried to upgrade banshee to 2.4
[09:27] <pratz> i am using ubuntu 10.04, but banshee seems not to be updated, any ideas ??
[09:27] <Bennlucky7> rythmbox is good
[09:27] <vuongdothanhhuy> ActionParsnip: yes, now Ubuntu 12 can get almost every hardware piece works out of the box, and...including my wifi card also :D
[09:28] <ActionParsnip> vuongdothanhhuy: indeed ;)
[09:28] <mathews> pratz, ubuntu never update it by itself. U have to download the new deb package and install or add the PPA
[09:29] <ActionParsnip> pratz: try:   sudo apt-get update; sudo apt-get upgrade
[09:29] <mathews> pratz, if u installed by adding the PPA then whenever new version available ubuntu will do the updation
[09:29] <ActionParsnip> pratz: I assume you added the PPA using the command given...
[09:31] <vuongdothanhhuy> pratz: if you install sth from the .deb file, and it doesnt add PPA to Ubuntu, then you gonna have to update manually.
[09:31] <pratz> ActionParsnip: mathews yes i have added the PPA as explained in the article
[09:32] <pratz> ActionParsnip: mathews but the article explains that banshee 2.4 is available for ubuntu 10.04
[09:32] <rockworldmi> hello all .
[09:32] <pratz> ActionParsnip: mathews i followed the exact steps, but still banshee is 2.0
[09:32] <ActionParsnip> pratz: i'd contact the PPA maintainer then
[09:33] <rokin> hi every one , is it true that compiled software from source run much faster than if i download the binary  file ?
[09:33] <ActionParsnip> pratz: PPAs have no obligation to support anything. it's some dude whom has made debs
[09:33] <iceroot_> rokin: no
[09:33] <Bennlucky7> pratz: just install it from softwar center
[09:33] <ActionParsnip> rokin: depends on options used to compile
[09:33] <iceroot_> rokin: but it is running faster (but normally you will not see the difference)
[09:33] <rockworldmi> i have my sites under /var/www , i want to clear files under /var/www/*.*/log/ "acess.log" and "error.log" how can i achive that ?
[09:34] <rokin> ok thank you :)
[09:34] <pratz> ActionParsnip: yes, but the PPA is from banshee team
[09:34] <vuongdothanhhuy> rokin: not always true.
[09:34] <pratz> ActionParsnip: here https://launchpad.net/~banshee-team/+archive/ppa
[09:34] <ActionParsnip> pratz: its not an official ubuntu repo
[09:34] <ActionParsnip> pratz: yes I've seen it. I'd contact the team
[09:34] <iceroot_> rokin: the reason is that the precompiled software is build for i586 while self-compiling fits perfectly on your cpu
[09:35] <vuongdothanhhuy> rokin: but compiling program from source is a tough task ;)
[09:35] <iceroot_> rokin: but please dont compile software on your own, you will not see the difference, it may break your system, is not supported here and just a waste of time
[09:37] <pratz> ActionParsnip: so, for now, i can not have banshee 2.4 ??
[09:38] <paer76> Why banshee 2.4
[09:38] <ActionParsnip> pratz: apparently not from that PPA...
[09:38] <pratz> ActionParsnip: ok
[09:38] <al-tabq> i'm having a weird problem in ubuntu 10.10 ..at random occasions, once or twice a week. the screen backlight fails and doesn't return until restart. i tried looking on google for the issue but couldn't find anything related. does anyone know what that could be?
[09:39] <iceroot_> al-tabq: 10.10 is no longer supported
[09:39] <iceroot_> !eol | al-tabq
[09:39] <rockworldmi> rm -f /var/www/*.*/log/access.log /var/www/*.*/log/error.log  ??
[09:40] <al-tabq> iceroot_ so... update and hope it'll go away?
[09:40] <iceroot_> al-tabq: yes and you will get security updates again
[09:40] <iceroot_> al-tabq: which is important
[09:41] <al-tabq> iceroot_ when is 12.04 coming out again?
[09:41] <iceroot_> al-tabq: 1 day
[09:41] <ayse> I can't use qwit or twitux, can anybody help?
[09:42] <iceroot_> !details | al-tabq
[09:42] <iceroot_> al-tabq: wrong nick sorry
[09:42] <iceroot_> !details | ayse
[09:42] <iceroot_> how i dislike this auto-complete...
[09:42] <al-tabq> hehe
[09:43] <Gyro54> Hi!
[09:44] <ayse> I have a problem with twitux and/or qwit, I'm running Ubuntu version 10.04 When I try to do connect twitter, I get the following output: access denied, but I expected it to coonect
[09:45] <Gyro54> What can I use for remote desktop Ubuntu to Ubuntu with an easy setup and no port changes on the modem?
[09:45] <iceroot_> ayse: sounds like wrong credentials
[09:45] <iceroot_> Gyro54: only teamviewer
[09:45] <iceroot_> Gyro54: everything else needs port forwarding
[09:46] <ActionParsnip> Gyro54: openssh-server
[09:46] <iceroot_> ActionParsnip: needs portforwarding too
[09:46] <ayse> iceroot: what do you mean?
[09:46] <ActionParsnip> iceroot_: modems are transparent devices, so needs no config.
[09:46] <iceroot_> ActionParsnip: i think he is really meaning routers
[09:46] <ActionParsnip> iceroot_: I can't assume that ;)
[09:46] <iceroot_> Gyro54: modem or router?
[09:47] <iceroot_> ayse: wrong user/password
[09:47] <ActionParsnip> Gyro54: do you mean a wifi router, or is is a modem connecting you straight to the web?
[09:47] <Gyro54> I need to look at a machine in another state which has a problem and they cant access the modem to open port etc.
[09:48] <iceroot_> Gyro54: modem or router?
[09:48] <Rienzilha> Gyro54: do they have access to that machine>?
[09:48] <bluefrog> Gyro54, teamviewer
[09:48] <Gyro54> They have access but they are totally basic
[09:48] <ayse> iceroot: I don't think it is about that, because I checked it many times.
[09:49] <Gyro54> does teamviewer run on ubuntu?
[09:49] <iceroot_> Gyro54: yes
[09:49] <Rienzilha> otherwise, you could have them ssh out with a port forward, and use that to connect back to some service. But I think for what you want teamviewer would be the best choice
[09:49] <iceroot_> Gyro54: its using wine but its running fine
[09:49] <Gyro54> I will have to have them setup Wine?
[09:50] <iceroot_> Gyro54: on the ubuntu machine they need to install wine "sudo apt-get install wine" or if you install the deb from teamviewer from there website imo wine is a dependency and will be installed automaticly
[09:51] <Gyro54> iceroot: Teamviewer has a Ubuntu version?
[09:51] <iceroot_> Gyro54: "yes" its a windows version running with wine
[09:51] <Gyro54> Thanks for your help
[09:52] <iceroot_> Gyro54: http://www.teamviewer.com/de/download/
[09:52] <Gyro54> iceroot_: thanks
[09:52] <iceroot_> Gyro54: there is also an executable version without installing, i am not sure how that is working, i guess wine is still needed on the system and is not coming with that tar.gz so use the deb-file
[09:53] <Ben64> !info teamviewer6
[09:53] <Ben64> oh..
[09:55] <luisgustavo> bom dia...
[09:56] <Gyro54> Downloading teamviewer 7 will let you know how we go.
[10:00] <iceroot_> oh, steam is coming for GNU/Linux :)
[10:00] <Ben64> citation needed
[10:00] <iceroot_> left 4 dead 2 on gnu/linux :) good news!!!
[10:02] <Bennlucky7> wow
[10:02] <Ben64> https://twitter.com/#!/michaellarabel/status/194946350276816896
[10:02] <cpunk> coool
[10:02] <iceroot_> !!!!!
[10:02] <iceroot_> new gaming-plattform GNU/Linux :)
[10:03] <Ben64> maybe they looked at the stats for the humble bundles
[10:03] <Ben64> linux users paid ~2x as much as windows
[10:03] <ikonia> perhaps #ubuntu-offtopic for this very interesting discussion
[10:03] <iceroot_> ikonia: to important for offtopic :)
[10:03] <ikonia> but also nothing to do with ubuntu support
[10:03] <iceroot_> its directly related to #1
[10:03] <ikonia> no, it's not
[10:05] <iceroot_> imo it is one of the biggest reason why #1 is still so bad but ok its offtopic
[10:05] <ikonia> it's a good discussion for #ubuntu-offtopic
[10:06] <ikonia> great topic
[10:06] <inashdeen> hi, need an advice here, how do i make a website run like a standalone app. something like what mozilla firefox has on prosm in the past.
[10:06] <fAz4> anyone knows 12.04 release hour ?!
[10:06] <iceroot_> fAz4: no
[10:07] <Bennlucky7> wed 24.01
[10:07] <Bennlucky7> ;-)
[10:07] <LjL> inashdeen: Chromium can do that, not sure about Firefox
[10:07] <inashdeen> LjL : may i know how to do that?
[10:07] <bobweaver> fAz4, http://www.ubuntu.com/community/countdown
[10:07] <LjL> inashdeen: menu / Tools / Create applications shortcuts
[10:09] <fAz4> bobweaver: saw that before, i needed timer like countdown.
[10:09] <bobweaver> ok
[10:11] <prototype> hi all
[10:11] <blahdeblah> Hi.  Thunderbird has just been upgraded to v. 11 on lucid (10.04 LTS), and i can't get more than 10 seconds uptime on it before it hangs, chews 100% of CPU, and becomes unresponsive.  Anyone else encountered this?
[10:13] <prototype> freinds i got the new samsung laptop npseries i install ubuntu10.10 but my display pluchuate(light flicking) plz  give me someone solution
[10:13] <Bennlucky7> my thunderbird is v11 and works fine
[10:13] <prototype> ??
[10:14] <Ztane> x/last time
[10:14] <prototype> help me someone??
[10:14] <skramer_> Hi. I´ve tried to set up forked-daapd. The music collection is in another users /home,
[10:15] <nannes> What changes between Lub.Desktop & Lub.Alternate after installation?
[10:15] <inashdeen> LjL: thanks
[10:15] <Ztane> prototype: install 11.10, or wait until tomorrow and install 12.04?
[10:15] <skramer_> when I start Banshee, it sees all titles, but does not play :-( Any hint what went wrong?
[10:15] <blahdeblah> prototype: I agree with Ztane. 10.10 is now unsupported, so install 11.10 or 12.04.
[10:15] <mathews> prototype, pls do run the "additional driver"
[10:16] <mathews> prototype, from the preference menu and install the one "recommended"
[10:17] <prototype> i tried additional drivers but nt works
[10:17] <bobweaver> fAz4, try this yet ? http://paste.ubuntu.com/945466/
[10:17] <prototype> is   possible to make compatibilty with 10.10
[10:17] <prototype> ??
[10:18] <mathews> prototype, enter your post again and try if somebody here could help u
[10:18] <blahdeblah> Bennlucky7: It looks like it was the "Folder Pane View" extension. :-(  I installed it because they got rid of the little arrows to switch between all folders and unread folders.  I might file a bug with the extension author.
[10:18] <mathews> prototype, meanwhile try in www.askubuntu.com too
[10:18] <prototype> freinds i got the new samsung laptop npseries i install ubuntu10.10 but my display pluchuate(light flicking) plz  give me someone solution
[10:19] <Schrodinger`Cat> i would like to know if Xubuntu 12.04 work in your computer to have keyboard-shrortcut, since i had installed 12.04 keyboard shortcut dont work
[10:19] <ActionParsnip> prototype: maverick is no longer supported. I suggest you wipe out maverick and install a fresh install of Precise (Ubuntu 12.04)
[10:19] <ActionParsnip> Schrodinger`Cat: ask in #ubuntu+ please
[10:20] <mathews> !xubuntu | Schrodinger`Cat
[10:20] <bobweaver> fAz4,  you could also put that into conky if you like ? not sure thou as I am not a conky user
[10:20] <ActionParsnip> Schrodinger`Cat: #ubuntu+1
[10:20] <prototype> thanks u all freinds for helping me
[10:20] <prototype> thank u all
[10:20] <Schrodinger`Cat> ok
[10:20] <fAz4> bobweaver: nice ;)
[10:21] <fAz4> bobweaver: i was checking the script
[10:21] <Bennlucky7> blahdeblah: i dont know abt that maybe u shld reinstall it
[10:21] <antihero> Hello, I'm considering buying a laptop with Optimus and I was wondering how stable/great Bumblebee is in terms of real-world usage?
[10:21] <bobweaver> fAz4, I got from here http://foro.ubuntu-guia.com/Contador-regresivo-escrito-en-bash-td3483154.html
[10:22] <inashdeen> hi there, is there a way to autorun an app when i do conditional thing on another app. for example, if i press the button chat>new call on empathy, it runs chromium browser
[10:23] <redact3d> hi, just wondering if there is an app that will allow me to convert an mkv file to an mp4 file without re-encoding the vid
[10:24] <bobweaver> fAz4,  it is working great for me :)
[10:24] <netiul> what is the best music player? (would be nice if i can control it from the systembar at the top of the screen, what's it called? :))
[10:24] <antihero> jeremy-4201: I think similar issues with mplayer
[10:24] <antihero> I was using vdpau
[10:24] <fAz4> bobweaver: same here
[10:25] <rockworldmi> "find . -name error.log -o -name access.log -exec echo -n \> {} \; " this is not working how to use it?
[10:25] <ProGammer_> Hi
[10:25] <bobweaver> rockworldmi,  use { this -o that }
[10:25] <ProGammer_> what is the exact release date of ubuntu 12.04 LTS ?
[10:25] <mathews> netiul, it is called panel
[10:25] <MonkeyDust> ProGammer_  tomorrow
[10:26] <Ztane> moreso, will it be office hours in South Africa or ?? :D
[10:26] <ProGammer_> i thought it will be release in 24.4
[10:26] <bobweaver> rockworldmi,  http://mywiki.wooledge.org/UsingFind
[10:26] <rockworldmi> bobweaver: k let me try
[10:26] <MonkeyDust> ProGammer_  12 = 2012, 04 is the 4th month
[10:26] <The_Loko> netiul I use rhythmbox and banshee, both can be controlled from volume menu
[10:26] <netiul> thx mathews :)
[10:26] <mathews> netiul, I would say Banshee or Amarok
[10:26] <ProGammer_> Hehe ok
[10:27] <netiul> ah bashee is default, but didn't know it can be controlled from the volume menu
[10:27] <netiul> i see now :)
[10:27] <netiul> thx
[10:27] <bobweaver> rockworldmi,  like find . \( -name '*.mp3' -o -name '*.jpg' \) -name 'foo*' -print
[10:27] <ActionParsnip> netiul: if you enable the dbus plugin in vlc, so can that
[10:27] <The_Loko> netiul, do you use gnome or unity?
[10:27] <mathews> ProGammer_, only hrs remains
[10:28] <rockworldmi> bobweaver: i want to clear file name "access.log" and "error.log" in /var/www
[10:28] <ActionParsnip> The_Loko: unity is a shell for gnome, so the question is non-sensical
[10:28] <rockworldmi> but not remove it
[10:28] <oooaaaooo> hi guys just wondering what "LTS is in final beta" means? doesnt LTS mean non-beta?
[10:28] <ActionParsnip> oooaaaooo: LTS means long term support. 5 years for Precise
[10:28] <mathews> !LTS | oooaaaooo
[10:28] <bobweaver> rockworldmi,  by clear you mean git rid of or just rm everything inside of it ?
[10:29] <rockworldmi> bobweaver: remove contents inside files
[10:29] <bobweaver> ok
[10:29] <ogra_> mathews, someone needs to update the bot for teh release, from 12.04 on desktop gets 5 years too
[10:29] <oooaaaooo> !beta
[10:29] <ActionParsnip> ogra_: you can do it ;)
[10:29] <bobweaver> rockworldmi, quick way delete file in script then make new on
[10:29] <bobweaver> s|on|one
[10:29] <mathews> ogra_, sure!!!
[10:29]  * ogra_ is busy with other release stuff really
[10:29] <oooaaaooo> !beta
[10:30] <rockworldmi> bobweaver: so first rm all then create new ones??
[10:30] <oooaaaooo> mathews: so whats the beta signify?
[10:30] <bobweaver> that would be one way but I would look at that file and its permissions
[10:30] <ActionParsnip> oooaaaooo: pre-release, not ready
[10:30] <md_5> anyone had experience with mouse back / forward buttons working out the box?
[10:30] <ogra_> (i just saw it driving by here and thought i should mention it)
[10:30] <netiul> release is planned for tomorrow?
[10:31] <oooaaaooo> ActionParsnip: so a pre-release is supported over the long term?
[10:31] <ActionParsnip> md_5: if you are using Precise then your support is in #ubuntu+1 ONLY
[10:31] <md_5> I am not ;s
[10:31] <mathews> oooaaaooo, u see ActionParsnip is more speedy.
[10:31] <ActionParsnip> oooaaaooo: no, its just pre-release, this release just happens to be LTS
[10:31] <ActionParsnip> (11:27:05) md_5    and I just autocorrected your nick
[10:31] <md_5> ?
[10:32] <rockworldmi> bobweaver: -exec rm -f {} \; ??
[10:32] <bobweaver> rockworldmi,  you could also echo $(date)  to then file  over-writing the hole thing example
[10:32] <bobweaver> rockworldmi,  NO
[10:32] <bobweaver> use --delete option
[10:32] <oooaaaooo> oh ok so when teh website sayes "Ubuntu12.04 LTS is in final beta now" what it means to say is that the testing of 12.04 beta is in the final stages and then after that the LTS will be released
[10:32] <ActionParsnip> rockworldmi: why -f?
[10:32] <bobweaver> if you are going that route rockworldmi
[10:32] <ActionParsnip> oooaaaooo: yes, in a day or so  the LTS will be out and officially 'stable'
[10:33] <rockworldmi> k,
[10:33] <bobweaver> I would over-write it
[10:33] <LjL> md_5: i think the idea is that he was talking to someone else but completed your nickname by mistake
[10:33] <ActionParsnip> oooaaaooo: 12.10 will also go into beta stage but will not be LTS
[10:33] <md_5> ok...
[10:33] <rockworldmi> bobweaver: so you suggeting going with echo $(date)
[10:33] <oooaaaooo> i see
[10:33]  * md_5 tries to figure out why there are 3 flood bots
[10:33] <mathews> have a good day guys.......bye
[10:33] <ActionParsnip> oooaaaooo: the next LTS will be 14.04
[10:34] <LjL> md_5: fallback, latency and netsplit management
[10:34] <bobweaver> rockworldmi,  files=$(find . so on)  then call the varbile and echo the date to it   echo $(date) > $files
[10:34] <md_5> fair point
[10:34] <Anton123123> Hello! can anybody please help me? I try to move ubuntu to another partition, carefully follow the guide (https://help.ubuntu.com/community/MovingLinuxPartition), but my ubuntu keeps booting from the old place...
[10:35] <bobweaver> rockworldmi,  makeing a varible in () make it output the well the output of that command
[10:35] <md_5> ouch why would you want to change partitions?
[10:35] <bobweaver> rockworldmi,  http://mywiki.wooledge.org/BashFAQ/002
[10:36] <Anton123123> md_5, i have a neetbook with 2 ssd drives, ubuntu is installed on smaller one (4 gb), i want to move it to the 16gb one
[10:36] <bobweaver> rockworldmi,  I would use date because then I could track so to say
[10:37] <Ztane> Anton123123: it still finds grub files on the first disk... or the grub master boot record...
[10:38] <Anton123123> Ztane, how can i check it? and fix..
[10:38] <redact3d> Anton123123, boot live cd move files to 16gb then reinstall grub
[10:38] <Ztane> redact3d: it would still try to boot from the first harddisk
[10:39] <Anton123123> the guide has a step to change grub (https://help.ubuntu.com/community/MovingLinuxPartition#Step_6:_Update_MBR_to_point_the_new_grub), but i am not sure that i worked
[10:40] <redact3d> Anton123123, boot it and see
[10:40] <Anton123123> i am not sure, because i see that it boots from the old drive :)
[10:40] <bobweaver> rockworldmi,  kinda like this http://paste.ubuntu.com/945489/
[10:41] <redact3d> Anton123123, then its not working - try re-installing grub setting new drive as /boot partition and overwrite mbr to point to new drive
[10:41] <rockworldmi> bobweaver: ok ..thanks ..let me try ..
[10:41] <redact3d> s/boot//
[10:41] <killer> hi .............whenever i open gnome-look.org i get"Internal Error. Exception id:6212871641"/.is it my system error?
[10:41] <bobweaver> rockworldmi,  comment out 3rd line it is wron
[10:42] <bobweaver> wrong
[10:42] <inashdeen> hi there, i am trying to use wammu and gammu on ubuntu to send sms through my usb modem, but it keep on saying "Error opening device, it doesn't exist.". my modem can be connected easily to the net
[10:42] <Grimdin> question about updating, i am running 11.04, was it possible to upgrade to 12.04 or do i need to go thru 11.10 first?
[10:42] <bobweaver> forgot my ' lol
[10:42] <rockworldmi> bobweaver: k.
[10:42] <abhinavmehta> I've installed python 2.7 on ubuntu 10.10 machine, but now when I install any packages using pip, it installs them to python 2.6, and not to python 2.7…how to solve this..?
[10:42] <tomgeorge> Where can I find MCQ for interviewing programmers?
[10:42] <abhinavmehta> BTW, if on terminal I write $ python --version, it gives me 2.7.3
[10:42] <killer> Grimdin.......:u have you go to 11.10 i think
[10:43] <bobweaver> rockworldmi,  paste the output of this one http://paste.ubuntu.com/945495/
[10:43] <bobweaver> rockworldmi,  use paste.ubuntu.com plz
[10:43] <Grimdin> killer, ok, is there possible to upgrade using alternate image?
[10:44] <rockworldmi> bobweaver: k.
[10:44] <killer> you can download image of 11.10 first and boot.....there will be an option for upgrade
[10:44] <killer> then do it again for 12.04
[10:44] <killer> Grimdin
[10:44] <abhinavmehta> please anyone on python-update..?
[10:44] <Grimdin> killer, ok thx
[10:45] <mosayeb> it's 24 april, why isn't ubuntu 12.04 released yet?
[10:45] <killer> Grimdin: 12.04 is not out yet...it will be on 26th
[10:45] <rockworldmi> bobweaver: how to use this script ? should i copy paste line by line?
[10:45] <Bennlucky7> 24 april UTC
[10:45] <acu> did anyone used hearbeat ? I understand that heartbeat will make sure that two clone computers are "fail over" connected - if one fails the other takes over - however I am not clear how the synchronization works - it should be something like a continuous backup going on ?
[10:45] <Grimdin> killer, i know its coming tomorrow (my local time)
[10:46] <MonkeyDust> mosayeb  release date is april 26
[10:46] <bobweaver> rockworldmi,  paste the out put of this find . \(-name 'error.log' -o -name 'access.log' \)
[10:46] <Bennlucky7> its only 10.46 UTC now
[10:46] <rockworldmi> bobweaver: k.
[10:46] <killer> Grimdin can u do me a favour?
[10:47] <bobweaver> rockworldmi,  that might need a sudo in front of it :)
[10:47] <rockworldmi> bobweaver: http://pastebin.com/PunPir9Z
[10:47] <Grimdin> killer, whats in your mind?
[10:47] <bobweaver> opps
[10:47] <killer> can u just check gnome-look.org and see whether it's giving u an error"Internal Error. Exception id:6212871641" or not
[10:48] <Grimdin> killer, i am getting "Internal Error. Exception id:3740349349"
[10:48] <MonkeyDust> yes, gnome-look is down
[10:48] <Oins> Hi. Is there a way to use an encrypted (with MS EFS) NTFS under linux?
[10:48] <killer> Grimdin:thnks ...just wanted to make sure ...it was website's error Grimdin
[10:49] <narcos> Hi all! How can I query what version of a package would be installed? i.e. I want to install sqlite > 3.7
[10:49] <narcos> (with apt-get)
[10:49] <bobweaver> rockworldmi,  paste the out put of this find . \(-name 'error.log' -o -name 'access.log' \) -print
[10:49] <bobweaver> or
[10:50] <bobweaver> find . -name 'error.log -o -name 'access.log'  -print
[10:50] <MonkeyDust> narcos  apt-cache policy to check version that's in the repos
[10:50] <bobweaver> dangit forgot a '
[10:51] <bobweaver> find . -name 'error.log' -name 'access.log' -print
[10:51] <bobweaver> there we go lol
[10:51]  * bobweaver has fat fingers sorry 
[10:52] <rockworldmi> bobweaver: it printed nothing :P
[10:52] <rockworldmi> i got $
[10:52] <j605> hi
[10:52] <rockworldmi> bobweaver: may be echo?
[10:54] <bobweaver> rockworldmi,  sudo find . -name *access.* -name *error.* ;
[10:54] <narcos> MonkeyDust: Can I manually download sqlite3 version > 3.7 in a deb file and dpkg add it ?
[10:54] <narcos> MonkeyDust: If so, where should I look for it ?
[10:54] <j605> i was trying to get wvdial running because i may have to access internet without X, but since i was only able to pull some packages now i cannot configure wvdial and network manager is broke. can i fix network manager by installing some specific packages?
[10:54] <rockworldmi> bobweaver:  -print?
[10:55] <bobweaver> rockworldmi,  better is  find / -name
[10:55] <bobweaver> so you start at / and not where you are
[10:55] <sidharth> hello everyone, i was trying to resize my partition using kubuntu`s partition manager, but it crashed in between the process and now i have lost all of my data, Sumone please guide me how i can recover the data. The partition was in ntfs format.
[10:55] <rockworldmi> k
[10:55] <iceroot_> sidharth: with your backup
[10:55] <sidharth> i dont know how, can u please guide
[10:56] <iceroot_> sidharth: you have a backup?
[10:56] <MonkeyDust> narcos  maybe you could first find out if it even exists
[10:56] <sidharth> i have nothing but my hdd
[10:57] <rockworldmi> bobweaver: i got all the log files using "find . -name '*.log' -print"
[10:57] <iceroot_> sidharth: now you know why a backup is important, i dont see a way to recover your data
[10:57] <bobweaver> rockworldmi,  cool paste that too us plz
[10:57] <sidharth> iceroot_: if i had backup i would not have been searching for a solution here,
[10:58] <rockworldmi> bobweaver: http://pastebin.com/c74Tv2VG
[10:59] <s-hitman> guys if we have the same kernel then we have the same drivers?
[10:59] <bobweaver> rockworldmi,  that is alot of files we def dont want to overwrite all them correct
[10:59] <bobweaver> rockworldmi,  you are going to have to grep down the list
[10:59] <rockworldmi> bobweaver: i narrowed it down using find . -name 'error.log' -print
[10:59] <s-hitman> i mean why ubuntu has the best hardware detection?
[11:00] <bobweaver> rockworldmi,  so all them files in the paste ?
[11:01] <syddraf> s-hitman: Some drivers are proprietary and not included in certain distros, others include them.
[11:01] <narcos> MonkeyDust: So, I have Ubuntu 10.04, and I see on http://pkgs.org/download/sqlite3 that for 10.04 it's only listed 3.6. What would happen if I installed the .deb from another version...?
[11:01] <s-hitman> and ubuntu has more proprietary drivers?
[11:01] <rockworldmi> bobweaver:http://pastebin.com/RnSLW0Ji
[11:02] <bobweaver> thouse are the files you are sure ?
[11:02] <bobweaver> rockworldmi,  ^^
[11:03] <rockworldmi> bobweaver: yup
[11:03] <bobweaver> ok
[11:03] <MonkeyDust> narcos  a newer ubuntu version may contain a newer version of the program you want http://packages.ubuntu.com/
[11:03] <bobweaver> this is better to echo that to a list read line by line in a while loop rockworldmi  I will paste give me a minute
[11:04] <rockworldmi> bobweaver: k
[11:04] <sidharth> hello everyone, i was trying to resize my partition using kubuntu`s partition manager, but it crashed in between the process and now i have lost all of my data, Sumone please guide me how i can recover the data. The partition was in ntfs format.
[11:08] <bobweaver> rockworldmi,  http://paste.ubuntu.com/945515/
[11:08] <ejv> adjusting partitions can be a destructive process if done incorrectly, you have no backups?
[11:08] <bobweaver> rockworldmi, let us know if you need help on how to make that run
[11:09] <sidharth> is there no one who can help me save my data...?
[11:09] <squaregoldfish> sidharth: You could try rebuilding the old partition table manually: http://www.salingfamily.net/trav/linux/lost_partition.html. Other than that, I suspect the only solution is a professional data recovery service.
[11:09] <rockworldmi> bobweaver: ya please.
[11:09] <bobweaver> ok copy and paste these line by line plz
[11:09] <rockworldmi> bobweaver: k ,,let me try
[11:09] <bobweaver>  mkdir -p "$HOME/bin"
[11:09] <sidharth> squaregoldfish: can u please sugest me one for linux?
[11:10] <bobweaver> echo 'PATH="$HOME/bin:$PATH"' >> "$HOME/.bashrc"
[11:10] <bobweaver> exec bash
[11:10] <squaregoldfish> sidharth: Sorry, no. I've never needed one.
[11:10] <ejv> bobweaver: use a pastebin
[11:10] <bobweaver> sorry ejv
[11:10] <sidharth> squaregoldfish: can u then at least guide me where i can find help?
[11:10] <ejv> that way he can bookmark it, np
[11:11] <robin> Hello I need to bridge eth0 and eth1 to allow internet on server2 through server 1, I know how to do that but I have to assign 4 ips to server 1 and 6 to server 2,  Do I alias the bridges and repeat?
[11:11] <bobweaver> rockworldmi,  http://paste.ubuntu.com/945519/
[11:12] <squaregoldfish> sidharth: I gave you a link for recovering the partition table (which I found on Google). And I said I don't know about recovery services. I just know they exist.
[11:12] <rockworldmi> bobweaver: after done i got "bash: $line: ambiguous redirect"
[11:13] <rawhite> hi i releaseupgraded from 10.04 to 12.04 precise pangoline beta
[11:13] <rockworldmi> bobweaver: and i ran everything .. not doing anything :(
[11:13] <rawhite> whousl i now set the Prompt=lts back ?
[11:13] <ejv> doesn't the ubuntu "wizard" have a huge warning that editing the partitions is hazardous? if it doesn't, there should be.
[11:15] <bobweaver> rockworldmi,  ok let open gedit and paste that code in there then save to ~/bin/ then in terminal cd ~/bin/    then   chmod +x <name of script>   then run script ./<name of script>    plz dont put the stupid .sh at the end of the script as that is confusing as it is not a sh script and is not needed
[11:15] <rawhite> auch this latest ubuntu release update didnt went so smooth as the ones before
[11:15] <rawhite> i used -d now
[11:15] <rockworldmi> bobweaver: ok ..
[11:15] <rawhite> and i have no idea why it was asking me 300 times to change my mysql password
[11:16] <ejv> 300 times? sounds suspicious
[11:16] <C-4> Hello all, just to be sure, final release of 12.04 is scheduled to be live tomorrow, right?
[11:16] <nimesh_accenture> i was installing a package , it got downloaded completely , but while extracting , somebody powered off my system by mistake ... now when i do an apt-get install of that package it says use dpkg --configure -a ....now my question is ... will this fix the problem completely?
[11:16] <ejv> C-4: believe so, unless something major comes up
[11:16] <rawhite> ejv: "300" times :) yea its a bit like sparta also :)
[11:17] <rawhite> ohh was i in a hurry ? :)
[11:17] <rawhite> ejv: should i set the Promp=lts back ?
[11:17] <jrib> nimesh_accenture: if it succeeds, sure
[11:17] <ejv> huh?
[11:17] <Bennlucky7> this is spartaaaa
[11:17] <C-4> Ejv, thanks for the answer. I am hoping the same. :-)
[11:18] <rawhite> ejv: i did do-release-upgrade -d and it failed at the end ... now i did apt-get -f install then apt-get upgrade shows me 356 packages needs to be upgraded ...
[11:18] <rockworldmi> bobweaver: i got "./logscr: line 8: $line: ambiguous redirect"
[11:18] <rawhite> i hope i didnt break something irreversibly
[11:18] <ejv> i plan to stay on 10.04
[11:18] <bobweaver> rockworldmi,  plz paste full script to me
[11:18] <nimesh_accenture> jrib: it didn't give any error at the end
[11:18] <rawhite> huh ejv why ?
[11:18] <ejv> i see little reason to upgrade personally
[11:18] <rawhite> i tought newer lts is better ...
[11:18] <rockworldmi> bobweaver: http://paste.ubuntu.com/945515/
[11:18] <bobweaver> rockworldmi,  the one with the while loop
[11:18] <bobweaver> thanks rockworldmi
[11:18] <jrib> nimesh_accenture: after you ran « dpkg --configure -a »?
[11:19] <rockworldmi> bobweaver: -print?
[11:19] <rawhite> ejv: maybe i should had stayed with that too everything was working superfine
[11:19] <rockworldmi> bobweaver: thanks to you..:)
[11:19] <bobweaver> rockworldmi,  no it is because you are using . and not /
[11:19] <ejv> mysql gcc etc. those things aren't changing in any major way, why would i go thru the hassle :P
[11:19] <bobweaver> rockworldmi,  http://paste.ubuntu.com/945529/
[11:20] <ejv> 10.04 support ends april 2013, i'll convert next year :)
[11:20] <rawhite> ejv: what about feature upgrade and more easy of transition to newer versions if your not 1000years behind ? :)
[11:20] <nimesh_accenture> jrib: yes, after that i again tried apt-get install , looks like its expanding the packages which it didnt expand earlier
[11:20] <bobweaver> rockworldmi,  it can not find the full path with .
[11:20] <rawhite> ejv: and what about security ?
[11:20] <robin> Hello I need to bridge eth0 and eth1 to allow internet on server2 through server 1, I know how to do that but I have to assign 4 ips to server 1 and 6 to server 2,  Do I alias the bridges and repeat?
[11:20] <rawhite> ejv: i hate to wait till the support is dropped to upgrade things
[11:20] <jrib> nimesh_accenture: ok
[11:20] <ejv> like i said, support for 10.04 lts ends april of next year, they are committed to security fixes until then
[11:20] <rockworldmi> bobweaver: k ..let me try
[11:20] <bobweaver> rockworldmi,  plz paste find / -name '*error.log' -print
[11:20] <syddraf> ejv: And bugfixes. And new versions of software.
[11:20] <bobweaver> 1st ^^
[11:21] <Gyro54> Thanks for the help with Teamviewer7. It works great out of the box. I had a very low tech user at the other end and all is fixed.
[11:21] <ejv> yea i have a very conservative set of packages i depend on, they will not be shifting in any major way
[11:22] <rockworldmi> bobweaver: that's finding every error.log under "/" but
[11:22] <rawhite> apache 2.2.22 :)) hehe
[11:22] <ejv> woops i stand mistaken, support for 10.04 lts server ends April 2015
[11:22] <rawhite> theres a lot of 2-s in there
[11:22] <ejv> so i have a few more years to go heh
[11:22] <rawhite> ejv: 3 more years for you to upgrade :)
[11:23] <rawhite> ejv: and probably you will just reinstall then something right ? :P not bother upgrading to 14.04 :)
[11:23] <ejv> right, unless there's some huge improvement in filesystem journaling from the XFS devs or something; then i might be convinced to jump to a new kernel; doesn't mean i have to dump 10.04 though necessarily
[11:24] <bobweaver> rockworldmi,  plz paste output so I can compair thanks
[11:25] <ejv> now if a motherboard dies or some other component, i could be persuaded, we'll see :)
[11:25] <bobweaver> rockworldmi,  also what Dir are you in when running find . -name *whatever  ?
[11:25] <ejv> i prefer to not touch, that which is not broken :)
[11:25] <jamesstanley> Does anybody know how to get NetworkManager to remember WPA keys on Ubuntu 12.04?
[11:25] <rockworldmi> bobweaver: /bin
[11:25] <rockworldmi> ~/bin
[11:26] <rockworldmi> bobweaver: also tried with /var/www same result but cant paste it its too long
[11:26] <bobweaver> rockworldmi,  the log files are under /var/www ?
[11:26] <rockworldmi> bobweaver: but if i do "find /var/www -name '*error.log' -print" it pastes only error.log under that dir
[11:27] <rockworldmi> bobweaver: yup
[11:27] <bobweaver> ok
[11:28] <rawhite> 0 upgraded, 0 newly installed, 0 to remove and 55 not upgraded.
[11:28] <rawhite> why do i get the following packages have been kept back
[11:28] <rawhite> ?
[11:29] <jamesstanley> rawhite: probably they can't be upgraded because doing so would cause a conflict with something which you have installed
[11:29] <bobweaver> rockworldmi,  what about     find /var/www/*/log/ -name '*error.log' -print
[11:30] <jamesstanley> rawhite: if you then do "apt-get install package-that-was-kept-back" you will probably get asked about whether you want to do it despite the conflict
[11:30] <bobweaver> rockworldmi,  you can use the wildcard in dirs also
[11:30] <rockworldmi> bobweaver: i am getting no such file and dir
[11:30] <jamesstanley> rockworldmi: what are you trying to do?
[11:31] <cihan_> hi
[11:31] <rockworldmi> jamesstanley: i am trying to clear the contest of all .log files under /var/www
[11:31] <bobweaver> rockworldmi, where is /var/www/what/ever/log  ?
[11:31] <bobweaver> what is the dir that the logs are under Full path that is
[11:32] <rockworldmi> bobweaver: /var/www/manyfolder/log/access.log
[11:33] <bobweaver> rockworldmi,  use the wildcard for the "manyfolders" part
[11:33] <rockworldmi> bobweaver: i trieed *
[11:33] <Darren> Hi Guys, I'm looking for some help. I've really been struggling the last few days with gettting squid/sarg/dansguardian setup and now my boss doesn't want me wasting anymore time on it so it must be done today...Would anyone be willing to remote into my box and set it up right for me?
[11:33] <bobweaver> sudo find /var/www/*/log  -name *error.log
[11:34] <bobweaver> if not working you could use regex to find
[11:35] <KristianDK> Any way to recover original init.d scripts from a package?
[11:35] <rockworldmi> bobweaver:  brb ..hungry ..after launch ..
[11:36] <Darren> Hi Guys, I'm looking for some help. I've really been struggling the last few days with gettting squid/sarg/dansguardian setup and now my boss doesn't want me wasting anymore time on it so it must be done today...Would anyone be willing to remote into my box and set it up right for me?
[11:37] <bobweaver> KristianDK,  use dpkg to do that ?
[11:37] <KristianDK> bobweaver, Sure, how do I do that? :D
 jamesstanley: i am trying to clear the contest of all .log files under /var/www
[11:38] <bobweaver> there are many ways to extract  a package one is  dpkg -X <name of package>
[11:38] <jamesstanley> rockworldmi: for f in `find /var/www -name '*.log'`; do > "$f"; done
[11:38] <KristianDK> ah ok, thanks
[11:39] <jamesstanley> rockworldmi: note that it is unusual to have log files under /var/www, they are more commonly under /var/log
[11:39] <KristianDK> bobweaver, ah, but then i need to find a .deb file first, right?
[11:39] <bobweaver> KristianDK,  what is package ?
[11:40] <KristianDK> bobweaver, a remote package, i installed it via apt-get, so i dont know where it came from
[11:40] <bobweaver> what is the name ?
[11:40] <KristianDK> mcollective-server
[11:40] <bobweaver> thanks
[11:41] <novato>  hola buenos dias
 tengo un problema con ubuntu 10.04
 tengo 2 ordenadores con ubuntu 10.04 instalado en cada uno de ellos+
 en uno de ellos quiero compartir una carpeta en el home
 con permiso de escritura
[11:41] <FloodBot1> novato: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
 desde el otro host entro en dicha carpeta pero no puedo crear nada
 por que?
[11:41] <bobweaver> Puppet !
[11:41] <fidel_> !en | novato
[11:41] <KristianDK> ?
[11:41] <KristianDK> mcollective works fine without puppet as well
[11:41] <KristianDK> they also integrate great, though\
[11:42] <bobweaver> KristianDK,  this is what you are talking about ? http://bazaar.launchpad.net/~lynxman/mcollective-server-provisioner/trunk/view/head:/mcprovision.init
[11:42] <fidel_> !es | novato
[11:43] <KristianDK> bobweaver, this is the mcollective server provisioner, there is a package called mcollective-server, but couldnt find it on launchpad
[11:43] <bobweaver> thanks KristianDK
[11:44] <robin>  can somebody show me how to add multiple ips to my network interfaces http://pastebin.com/cMXkJvpT I will donate to the charity of choice to anyone who helps me
[11:45] <opti> is there a simple way to find out which upstream kernel a particular ubuntu kernel is built from?
[11:47] <bobweaver> KristianDK,  you got from puppetlabs ?
[11:47] <KristianDK> bobweaver, no, its included in 11.10 by default it seems
[11:47] <bobweaver> @_o
[11:48] <KristianDK> the problem was that i manage it with puppet, and there was various bugs because it was designed for debian and not ubuntu-upstart, which caused it to run itself a billion times
[11:49] <KristianDK> then i overwrote the init.d script (that puppet uses to restart services) and the upstart script, and now they upstart script works, but the init.d seems to be executed as well
[11:49] <KristianDK> so i need the original init.d script
[11:49] <KristianDK> if i delete it and reinstall the package, will it put it back in?
[11:49] <bobweaver> KristianDK,  http://apt.puppetlabs.com/enterprise/sources/2.5.1/source/   ?
[11:49] <SAXO> hello guys, has anyone try to use the 3.3 kernel with gnome 2?
[11:49] <gilisix> hi any body know where i can get a programme to unlock my cell phone
[11:50] <KristianDK> bobweaver, actually this is not it either :P but i think i can find the package somewhere, but is there really not an easier way?
[11:50] <worm> I have a strange problem. I have just installed a new ubuntu 11.10, and I have a well-installed 12.04. Can I just copy my /usr and /etc to my new system to configure it?
[11:51] <worm> I don't want to install them again and configure them.
[11:51] <bobweaver> lol KristianDK  not sure as I am v.new to puppet and chef sorry someone else ?
[11:51] <vectorshelve> I accidently preseed some keyboard shortcut and my screen colors have changed how to reset it ?
[11:51] <Ben64> worm: that'd probably be a very bad idea
[11:52] <KristianDK> bobweaver, its more like a general question - if you have any package and you accidentally delete or modify the configuration file, how do you get a default config file again?
[11:52] <trijntje> Hi all, virtualbox just caused a hard reboot, what log files should I inspect so find out whats going on?
[11:52] <bobweaver> get deb or source code for it KristianDK
[11:52] <jrib> KristianDK: apt-get -o DPkg::Options::="--force-confmiss" --reinstall install <packagename>
[11:52] <alusion> Is this site down for anyone else? : http://support.lexmark.com/index?locale=EN&page=product&userlocale=EN_US&productCode=LEXMARK_PLATINUM_PRO905&focusedTab=DOWNLOADS
[11:53] <jrib> KristianDK: read about the dpkg options (confmiss may require the configuration to actually be missing, i.e. deleted)
[11:53] <KristianDK> jrib, sorry, i see smileys all over the place - can you paste it somewhere? :)
[11:53] <jlb181> yes it's down
[11:53] <KristianDK> jrib, its not a problem to delete it :)
[11:53] <vectorshelve> KristianDK:  I accidently preseed some keyboard shortcut and my screen colors have changed how to reset it ?
[11:53] <alusion> Ahhh okay...damnit
[11:53] <jrib> KristianDK: http://paste.ubuntu.com/945566/
[11:54] <KristianDK> vectorshelve, why in the world would i know? I only use ubuntu without a gui
[11:54] <KristianDK> jrib, thanks a lot man ;)
[11:54] <vectorshelve> KristianDK: oh god how to get it back :(
[11:54] <Gyro54> alusion: yes it is down for me
[11:55] <Bennlucky7> vectorshelve: restart?
[11:55] <KristianDK> vectorshelve, dont ask some random person that asked something in the chat
[11:55] <jrib> vectorshelve: search for info about compiz shortcuts.  It's probably something like "inverse color" or some accessibility option
[11:55] <vectorshelve> jrib: ok thanks
[11:56] <KristianDK> jrib, um, deleted /etc/init.d/mcollective now and ran the command, and its still not there :D Are there other flags for start scripts?
[11:56] <jrib> vectorshelve: alt-shift-PrintScreen seems like a possibility
[11:56] <jrib> KristianDK: are you sure you're using the right package?  What package? What filename exactly?
[11:57] <KristianDK> jrib, ran it again and it worked - dunno if my terminal just inserted a random character or something before
[11:57] <KristianDK> sorry about that
[11:57] <vectorshelve> jrib: http://www.ehow.com/how_8423829_display-inverse-colors-ubuntu.html helped window + N
[11:57] <jrib> vectorshelve: ok
[11:58] <vectorshelve> jrib: bt only for the current window
[11:58] <vectorshelve> jrib: window+ M for all screens :) worked thanks
[12:00] <bobweaver> vector,  free as in price well minus stamps https://www.system76.com/community/stickers/      get that super key from windows to ubuntu :)
[12:02] <geekbri> mmmm free stickers
[12:09] <rockworldmi> jamesstanley: ohh.thanks that worked ..:D thanks a lot you saved my day
[12:10] <rockworldmi> jamesstanley: these logs are my website logss
[12:10] <torlang> hi, whats the best irc terminal client on my terminator?
[12:10] <carroarm1to0> torlang: irssi
[12:11] <torlang> thx
[12:21] <jamesstanley> rockworldmi: no problem
[12:22]  * Queops ** WinSys ** Client: XChat-WDK 1503 (x64) ** OS: Microsoft Windows 7 Home Premium  ** CPU: Intel(R) Core(TM) i5 CPU         650  @ 3.20GHz (3,00 GHz) ** RAM: 6135 MB Total (3584 MB Free) ** VGA: NVIDIA GeForce GT 320 ** Uptime: 0,24 Hours **
[12:22] <Queops> oops...
[12:22] <jamesstanley> rockworldmi: "find /var/www -name '*.log'" outputs a list of all *.log files under /var/www, "for f in [list]; do [something]; done" goes through each item in the list and does "something" with it, and "> [file]" truncates the file
[12:22] <jamesstanley> "list" is quite unprecise but good enough
[12:27] <rockworldmi> jamesstanley: thanks for explaining ...it was resourceful
[12:27] <rockworldmi> bobweaver: thanks a lot for your time
[12:28] <bobweaver> np just watch them files
[12:36] <maslen> When I select a file in nautilus, it pop ups with '<filename> <filesize> has been selected'. How can I get rid of that popup?
[12:36] <stefanhgm> Im trying to publish my pgp key like https://launchpad.net/+help-registry/openpgp-keys.html#publish - "Publishing your Key" Step 3, but cant find the Remote or Syn and publish option at my ubuntu 12.04 ??
[12:36] <maslen> (It's preventing me from being able to see the filenames :(
[12:41] <stefanhgm> any hints?
[12:41] <mantise> :)
[12:41] <stefanhgm> found it -.- ;
[12:44] <mantise> !eggdrop
[12:49] <rawhite> jamesstanley: thanks for the reply
[12:50] <rawhite> jamesstanley: for example i had apport in there as held back package
[12:50] <rawhite> and then i did apt-get install apport and it installed without problem
[12:51] <cereal> Anyone know what I should do if a specific user no longer has working sound but others do?  I've tried deleting the .pulse/ and .pulse-cookie files/folders and it only made it worse heh
[12:51] <meeep> Anyone around? I'm considering ordering a netbook to put Ubuntu on, but I'm not sure how well Ubuntu will support the Intel Cederview integrated graphics controller - searching doesn't seem to give me much in the way of answer, apart from an unresolved bug in Launchpad
[12:51] <mantise> .
[12:54] <chiliblue> meep have you searched the netbook model and ubuntu, personally for basic stuff I have never had an issue with gfx and linux.
[12:55] <b00b00> hello
[12:56] <meeep> chiliblue: yup, checked the model, chipset, graphics - only reference I can find is this one recent bug on launchpad specific to that model - seems they could only get 800x600 on the 1024x600 display
[12:57] <meeep> I'm tempted to just buy and try with a LiveUSB stick, got a small period for no-quibble returns, but figured it was worth asking first.
[12:57] <chiliblue> meeep whats the model, and where did you read about the resolutoin issue
[12:57] <chiliblue> 99.99% that it wouldn't be an issue
[12:58] <b00b00> little question, I have user on ubuntu, logged in via FTP, when copying files to the server to different dir than home_dir , I want the file to inheret perms from the dir copied to, any way to do so?
[12:58] <chiliblue> I have run ubuntu on acer one's and found them fine, although desktop is a little cramped on a screen with such a small resolution
[13:00] <kaiowas> If i buy a computer with windows on it, but don't want to use windows.. Can i get a refund from microsoft? Used to be able to do that?
[13:00] <yandex3829> kaiowas: You can try and get a refund from the seller (e.g. Dell), rather than Microsoft. Some people have managed. Best is to buy a computer without an OS pre-installed
[13:00] <chiliblue> no idea but I imagine it would be pennies
[13:01] <fidel_> kaiowas: why are you buying a pc with windows preinstalled then in the first place? in some countries refunding was done already - but it might be a big hustle
[13:01] <MonkeyDust> kaiowas  i'm not from the US myself, but start here http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Windows_refund#License_refund_policy
[13:02] <yandex3829> kaiowas: Alternately send an email to Mark Shuttleworth, and he'll send you a refund for Windows
[13:03] <kaiowas> I live in sweden, and thought that i could get a cheap laptop for linux..  And i just had this thing in the back of my head that some had gotten a refund if they didn't want windows on it. The seller i spoke with earlier today had absolutely no idea :).
[13:03] <fidel_> kaiowas: you should find several laptops without pre-installed windows on the market
[13:03] <fidel_> for sure it depends on the vendor
[13:03] <yandex3829> fidel_: Yeah, Macbooks ;)
[13:03] <fidel_> yandex3829: bla
[13:03] <yandex3829> I've never encountered a laptop with no OS pre-installed
[13:03] <chiliblue> kaiowas, however I doubt they would be any cheaper
[13:04] <rootworm> hi cansome one help
[13:04] <fidel_> yandex3829: i did
[13:04] <rootworm> i cant find the /etc/passwd file
[13:04] <rootworm> it says permission denied
[13:04] <kaiowas> chiliblue, maybe not cheaper, but a refund is a refund.. :).
[13:04] <fidel_> rootworm: cant find or no permission?
[13:04] <fidel_> different problem ;)
[13:04] <cereal> rootworm, sudo ;)
[13:04] <rootworm> why dont i have permission for tht
[13:04] <rootworm> no permission
[13:04] <cereal> because its owned by root not your user
[13:04] <meeep> chiliblue: Well, I can go for an older Samsung I've had which I know works, runs an N550 Atom processor, but battery life isn't fantatic. Considering an MSI Wind U180, but it's a fairly new machine with an N2600 CPU and this new Cedarwood graphics, which I'm concerned about
[13:04] <yandex3829> rootworm: Why should an artbitary user have permission to the passwords file? Think about it...
[13:04] <rootworm> sudo cat /etc/passwd
[13:04] <rootworm> tried tht too
[13:04] <rootworm> doesnt work
[13:04] <rootworm> dang
[13:05] <FloodBot1> rootworm: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[13:05] <fidel_> kaiowas: do youz calculate your time as well regarding the refund? ;) might eat the money-win
[13:05] <chiliblue> kaiowas, I fully support the principle just in reality it will be a lot of hassle
[13:05] <rootworm> well you call tht a flood..maybe i should exploit your source code moonbat crap
[13:05] <kaiowas> Its probably not worth it.. :/
[13:05] <vlt> I blacklisted my onboard sound chip module snd-hda-intel in /etc/modprobe.d/blacklist.conf.  Now my only sound device (USB) gets hw:1 from alsa (not hw:0).  Any idea how to fix this?
[13:05] <vlt> (Test: When I `modprobe snd-hda-intel` later it gets hw:0) o_O
[13:06] <bazhang> fidel_, kaiowas lets get back on topic please
[13:07] <kaiowas> According to Microsoft's End User License Agreement for Windows 7 the ability to receive a refund for the operating system is determined by the hardware manufacturer:
[13:07] <bazhang> rootworm, what exactly are you trying to accomplish
[13:07] <donavan01> can anyone help me out here... I have a laptop (ubuntu 11.10)  on my network.  When I try to browse to a website the laptop acts like it is having and issue with DNS, which can't be the case unless its local to the laptop as the windows machines all have no issues.  does anyone have any insight ?
[13:07] <bazhang> !ot > kaiowas
[13:07] <Smylie2> hi @ all.
[13:07] <rootworm> im trying to build me own army
[13:07] <rootworm> if you must know
[13:07] <kaiowas> okey, my bad. Sorry.
[13:08] <LjL> rootworm: or maybe you could just not abuse your Enter key
[13:08] <bazhang> rootworm, did you have an actual support question? if not chit chat in #ubuntu-offtopic
[13:08] <rootworm> my enter key is not abused
[13:09] <rootworm> i never would do tht abuse a key,,,tht would be pathetic
[13:09]  * rootworm pukes
[13:09] <szal> vlt: create (or edit, if it exists) a /etc/modprobe.d/99_local.conf (or something similar) where you determine the order of the sound devices (view the existing .conf files for hints on the syntax)
[13:10] <alusion> Hey Ubuntu I was wondering if Ubuntu had any good voice chat programs such as google talk or something to call people with [voip] ?
[13:10] <vlt> szal: Thanks, I'll have a look at it.
[13:10] <szal> !voip
[13:10] <LjL> rootworm: from now on please stick to support questions and answers (ideally on single lines). thank you
[13:10] <chiliblue> meep looks like it is solved, if you use the latest beta and you make sure the bios is up to date. Which I can see would be a bit of an issue if you decided to return it during the no quibble peroid
[13:11] <rootworm> you can shove your channel access level up ur arse for all i care....cow cunt
[13:12] <meeep> Charming
[13:12] <chiliblue> meeep, have you read this? http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?s=529605f2224e83e9388c17985debd2af&t=1953734&page=2
[13:12] <yandex3829> Why was rootworm banned?
[13:12] <Sagi> Anyone else experiencing sound problems on 12.04? I can still play audio on the console, but since updates earlier this week (possibly yesterday) something is blocking access to the soundcard (or so I presume)
[13:12] <szal> yandex3829: as if that wasn
[13:12] <chiliblue> it is possible with a bit of messing around, but I think you can be certain it will get resolved in the standard release in due course
[13:12] <szal> 't obvious
[13:13] <X-tonic> hey, what time is 12.0 releasing?
[13:13] <X-tonic> *12.04
[13:13] <Sagi> it used to work in 11.04 and it also worked after upgrading 12.04 last week. I used snd_ice1712 and an optical output. mplayer on console works, sound while being logged in doesn't.
[13:13] <yandex3829> Sagi: I've given up on 12.04. Filed a bug report for a major driver issue months ago, no progression.
[13:13] <Sagi> I cannot seem to find relevant bugs.
[13:13] <meeep> Hm.. now, the question is, do I go for the newer machine, and hope to get it working, or go for the older one I know does? (both same price)
[13:13] <Pici> !outyet | X-tonic
[13:14] <satyanash_> !date
[13:15] <zykotick9> !schedule
[13:15] <Sagi> is the are more specific sound-related irc channel for ubuntu?
[13:15] <vlt> szal: I browsed the modprobe.d directory and found a "# Prevent abnormal drivers from grabbing index 0" block in alsa-base.conf.  How to find out which module my usb hardware actually uses?
[13:15] <Sagi> there*
[13:15] <X-tonic> yes it does so tomorrow, but what i was looking for was a countdown of sorts.
[13:15] <szal> vlt: lspci -k
[13:15] <Sagi> wow, that didn't make sense.
[13:15] <X-tonic> ie. Time + timezone
[13:15] <Sagi> does a more specific sound-related irc channel for ubuntu exist?
[13:15] <zykotick9> X-tonic: the "time" is generally not known beforehand, only the day
[13:15] <Pici> X-tonic: There is never a specific time.
[13:16] <men> Good morning from Tokelau. Is it out yet?
[13:16] <szal> bwaha
[13:16] <meeep> I remember on #raspberrypi isitoutyet was scripted to give a countdown to release
[13:16] <meeep> what a spectacular failure that turned out to be :(
[13:17] <vlt> Sagi: #opensourcemusicians, #alsa
[13:17] <vlt> szal: `lspci` for a USB device?
[13:17] <MonkeyDust> lsusb
[13:17] <alusion> If SUDO is all-powerful, can SUDO start a process that SUDO can't kill?
[13:17] <szal> if experience is any indication, then expect the release to be made official at around lunchtime in South Africa or shortly thereafter (~1200 UTC)
[13:17] <mads-> When I wget something the progress line can like expand from 0% to 100% without the surrounding text changes. Which libraries does this kinda "nice" terminal output?
[13:17] <X-tonic> a sudo paradox. :D
[13:18] <alusion> ಠ_ಠ
[13:18] <X-tonic> I doubt though. The sudo is indeed all powerful to kill the process.
[13:18] <petsounds> *highfive*
[13:18] <vlt> MonkeyDust: lspci's -k option shows the used kernel module. Is there something liek that for lsusb?
[13:18] <X-tonic> even if sudo started it
[13:19] <LordXe-gnu> mads-, for a snigle line it's probably not necessary to use any fancy libraries... just print a carriage return (\r) and it will move the cursor back to the beginning of the line, and overwrite the old line
[13:19] <szal> vlt: then 'lsusb -k'
[13:19] <vlt> szal: Invalid option -k
[13:20] <GG111> after upgrading to 11.10 my pc speaker is not working, did lots of googeling on that but no go.
[13:20] <versus_> reinstall ALSA
[13:20] <MonkeyDust> GG111  in terminal, type alsamixer, if you see MM (mute) go there and press m
[13:21] <GG111> MonkeyDust: yes, did that, it was on mute but it did not help
[13:21] <GG111> versus_: no need to uninstall, just "apt-get install alsa" ?
[13:21] <versus_> i guess need
[13:21] <shani0610> Hey hello guys installing ubuntu 11.04 right now, and need a bit help help here about partitioning
[13:22] <inashdeen> hi there, i managed to use mobile broadband mf180 previously. but now it is not showing in the network manager. i try to do edit connections > mobile broadband > add, but it doesnt seem to find my broadband. any tips will be appreciated
[13:23] <mcb_1> mads-: To use Bash progress bars http://mywiki.wooledge.org/BashFAQ/044
[13:23] <GG111> no go with re-install of alsa
[13:23] <clueless_chick> Has anyone here used WINE? .. I need to UNinstall it but the command #make uninstall isn't working.
[13:23] <jrib> clueless_chick: how did you install it?
[13:24] <versus_> GG111 use synaptic
[13:24] <mads-> mcb_1, thanks
[13:24] <shani0610> why do we need swap partition?
[13:24] <yandex3829> clueless_chick: Did you not install it via a package manager?
[13:24] <jrib> !swap | shani0610
[13:24] <clueless_chick> good question. Using the terminal window… so is that from source code (note name: CLUELESS)
[13:24] <shani0610> !swap
[13:24] <GG111> versus_: shall I do away with everything that's alsa , in synaptic ?
[13:25] <yandex3829> clueless_chick: Did you use sudo apt-get install wine or similar command?
[13:25] <jrib> clueless_chick: what exactly did you do to install it?
[13:25] <shani0610> ok
[13:25] <clueless_chick> I used sudo port install
[13:25] <Ibtaya> Has anyone been successful installing a 6tb raid 0 on 10.04?
[13:25] <shani0610> then how much should I give swap out of 10 gigs?
[13:25] <yandex3829> clueless_chick: a/s/l?
[13:25] <versus_> reinstall alsa-base & alsa-utils
[13:25] <jrib> yandex3829: don't do that.
[13:25] <Pici> yandex3829: please don't do that here.
[13:25] <wylde> !asl | yandex3829
[13:25] <Pici> GG111: Is your sound working, just not your pc speaker (beeps?)
[13:26] <clueless_chick> a/s/l? what does that mean?
[13:26] <Pici> clueless_chick: just ignore it.
[13:26] <NewWorld> shani0610:  tonnes of info on swap partition size on the net)
[13:26] <jrib> clueless_chick: what does this command return: lsb_release -c
[13:26] <Ibtaya> any information on installing a raid?
[13:26] <yandex3829> It's shorthand for age/sex/location... it was commonly used in the golden age of chat (AOL)
[13:26] <MonkeyDust> !raid
[13:27] <versus_> GG111 Work?
[13:27] <shani0610> ok thnx all
[13:28] <GG111> versus_: working on it
[13:28] <GG111> Pici: yes
[13:29] <GG111> Pici: login music is gone as well
[13:29] <inashdeen> bump
[13:29] <Ibtaya> ubottu, what I'm reading is that raid has to be set up at install, is that correct?
[13:30] <Ibtaya> haha
[13:30] <clueless_chick> -bash: lsb_release: command not found
[13:30] <GG111> is there a way to test that beep withoug rebooting ?
[13:30] <yandex3829> ubottu: a/s/l?
[13:30] <GG111> clueless_chick: you're just trying to remove wine ?
[13:30] <Ibtaya> does raid have to be set up at installation?
[13:30] <mohtadi> hi everyone
[13:30] <Ibtaya> hi
[13:30] <versus_> hi
[13:30] <mohtadi> i have a problem please with my Ubuntu
[13:30] <mohtadi> if you could help me
[13:31] <clueless_chick> yes.
[13:31] <Ibtaya> does raid have to be set up at installation?
[13:31] <jrib> clueless_chick: what version of ubuntu is this?
[13:31] <mohtadi> 10.04 LS
[13:31] <mohtadi> in fact, i restared it when its suddenly stopped responding
[13:31] <GG111> clueless_chick: issue dpkg -l |grep -i wine , what do you get ?
[13:31] <rawhite> since i installed Ubuntu 12.04 and upgraded packages now my libvirtd wont work as used to before
[13:31] <jrib> rawhite: 12.04 support in #ubuntu+1 until final release please
[13:31] <mohtadi> GG111:  one minute i'll reconnect from it
[13:32] <clueless_chick> command not found
[13:32] <jrib> clueless_chick: what linux distribution are you using?
[13:33] <GG111> OK, the  sudo /usr/bin/dpkg  -l |grep -i wine
[13:33] <GG111> OK, then  sudo /usr/bin/dpkg  -l |grep -i wine
[13:34] <clueless_chick> uhhh…
[13:34] <martin_tsc> how can i manage my current partition?  It's locked in gpartition so im guessing there is some boot up shell i could use or?
[13:34] <GG111> clueless_chick: did you issue the command ?
[13:35] <GG111> I'll be be back in 5, reboot time.
[13:35] <martin_tsc> lol the name rings true
[13:35] <Stanley00> martin_tsc: I think you should use a live CD/USB
[13:35] <clueless_chick> yes. is says command not found
[13:35] <jrib> clueless_chick: please answer my question: what linux distribution are you using?
[13:35] <martin_tsc> i tried that before, but in order for that so save the changes it neds to install i thought.
[13:36] <MonkeyDust> clueless_chick  in a terminal, type lsb_release -sd
[13:36] <jrib> MonkeyDust: she doesn't have lsb_release apparently
[13:36] <craigbass1976> Is this the recommended method? http://weblog.scanyours.com/2011/08/23/howto-run-internet-explorer-8-under-ubuntu-11-04-natty-narwhal-using-virtualbox/
[13:37] <Stanley00> martin_tsc: hmm, I don't think so... just try a gparted on live CD/USB
[13:37] <wylde> clueless_chick: or try    uname -v    in terminal.
[13:37] <clueless_chick> I'm not sure which distribution I'm using… I am in way over my head here guys..
[13:37] <jrib> clueless_chick: how did you install your operating system?
[13:38] <versus_> clueless_chick Gnome? KDE? XFCE?
[13:38] <GG111> Nope, still don't get a logins sound , or able to issue a beep sound here in irssi
[13:38] <MonkeyDust> GG111  same here, did not find a solution myself
[13:38] <versus_> GG111 other sounds are available?
[13:38] <GG111> MonkeyDust: and that was after doing an upgread to 11.10 ?
[13:39] <GG111> versus_: yes, all is perfect
[13:39] <mohtadi> GG111: you see, this is the time it takes to log in , in fact since i restarted it, i can no longer log in normally, i have to enter to recovery mode and log on
[13:39] <clueless_chick> gnome!
[13:39] <GG111> happend on two computers, same excat thing
[13:39] <mohtadi> i also have no longer to gdm , so i only can log in with xdm
[13:39] <MonkeyDust> GG111  yes, but 12.04 is out tomorrow, so i no longer look for a solutuin right now
[13:39] <versus_> Clueless_chick go into gnome task manager it will show
[13:39] <clueless_chick> I'm pretty sure it's gnome… and everything I type into my terminal window comes up "command not found:
[13:39] <jrib> clueless_chick: you don't seem to be using ubuntu.  You're likely using some other linux distribution so we cannot help you in this channel.  Please visit the channel for your distribution
[13:39] <mohtadi> and with xdm , i have also no longer access to networking, media and disk mouting, sound ...
[13:40] <GG111> MonkeyDust: yes, but If I can get this to work, I'll wait with 12,04 untill 2013
[13:40] <mohtadi> i have to check netroot in recovery mode to only get internet working
[13:40] <clueless_chick> o .. ok Thanks anyways! Sorry.
[13:40] <versus_> so...what distro?
[13:41] <jrib> clueless_chick: ##linux is a general linux channel.  While they'll also need to know what you are actually running, they can probably help you figure it out
[13:41] <clueless_chick> ok. Thanks a lot!
[13:42] <GG111> clueless_chick: if you issue  /usr/bin/dpkg -l |grep -i wine    on the terminal, you get nothing ?
[13:42] <L3top> she said she gets command not found GG111
[13:42] <MonkeyDust> or terminal not found
[13:43] <GG111> yes, that was for just dpkg, did not see that for the whole path
[13:43] <L3top> Which leads me to believe that she is not on anything buntu
[13:43] <Tuna-Fish> hi. How do I change the device that system sounds are played with in pulse audio?
[13:43] <viktor_> sup guyz
[13:43] <GG111> man, I'm going to install 11.10 from scrach just for dars beep !
[13:43] <viktor_> any1 with Xubuntu 12.04 beta ?
[13:43] <mohtadi> well, hey again everyone :p i need help please :'( , i have all my work on my ubuntu and i need to make the system works normally again :\
[13:43] <OldOneEye> i need a browser based email server where should i look?
[13:44] <LjL> viktor_: 12.04 support is still in #ubuntu+1 for now
[13:44] <GG111> Tuna-Fish: good Question, I don't know if you can divert only system sounds do one device, while the rest to a diffrent device
[13:44] <versus_> viktor i want want to install it tomorrow :)
[13:44] <craigbass1976> OldOneEye, squirrelmail, cube (I think) and...  There's another one somewhere
[13:44] <Tuna-Fish> GG111: I can divert all the other sounds with pavucontrol
[13:44] <Tuna-Fish> so how do I divert everything then?
[13:45] <versus_> viktor : problems with that ditr
[13:45] <versus_> ?
[13:45] <GG111> Tuna-Fish: with the GUI of pulse audion to to the "output" tab and choose your device, no ?
[13:46] <Tuna-Fish> GG111: that worked, thanks
[13:46] <mohtadi> so, when i try to laucnh gdm i get this : ouldn't connect to system bus: Failed to connect to socket /usr/local/var/run/dbus/system_bus_socket: Connection refused c2a@c2a-desktop:~$ ** (gdm-binary:1700): WARNING **: Couldn't connect to system bus: Failed to connect to socket /usr/local/var/run/dbus/system_bus_socket: Connection refused
[13:46] <wylde> OldOneEye: 'apt-cache search email server'   or if it shows too many lines you can output it to a text file 'apt-cache search email server > ~/Desktop/email-server.txt'
[13:47] <donavan01> can anyone help me out here... I have a laptop (ubuntu 11.10)  on my network.  When I try to browse to a website the laptop acts like it is having and issue with DNS, which can't be the case unless its local to the laptop as the windows machines all have no issues.  does anyone have any insight ?
[13:47] <apter> I am using kismet with no gps when i'am wardriving. But after i am finishen and convertet the log file with giskismet, is there any program i can use to get it nice set up, some an good overview?
[13:47] <Mars__> Hello. If the flash problem  common?
[13:47] <cbmuser> hey, I have a problem with the mouse cursor theme
[13:47] <mohtadi> donavan01: try to ping 8.8.8.8
[13:47] <cbmuser> the cursors for resizing are too large, the rest is fine
[13:47] <szal> donavan01: disable IPv6?
[13:47] <cbmuser> anyone knows how to fix that?
[13:47] <donavan01> mohtadi ... ping works fine
[13:48] <mohtadi> donavan01: check you /etc/resolv.conf
[13:48] <donavan01> szal already disabled ipv6 for that connection
[13:48] <vlt> szal: Found it. I commented the line with snd-usb-audio and index=-2 and now I get hw:0 for my usb sound card.
[13:48] <donavan01> mohtadi yep I have even changed my dns server to be google and opendns
[13:48] <versus_> cbmuser size 16?
[13:48] <mohtadi> donavan01: well, that's all i know buddy :D
[13:48] <cbmuser> versus_: the size in gconf-editor is set to 18
[13:48] <Mars__> Flash installed OK but I got just blank rectangles. All that after update of flash. Not Ubuntu Beta, current newest stabile.
[13:49] <cbmuser> versus_: but puzzingly, only the resize cursor are messed up
[13:49] <donavan01> mohatadi ... yeah I keep hitting a brick wall here
[13:49] <alien64> donavan01: is this a windows machine?
[13:49] <cbmuser> I pressed some weird keyboard combination accidentally and it somehow activated accessibility
[13:49] <szal> Mars__: version number?
[13:49] <versus_> cbmuser and you want 16 size, right?
[13:49] <Mars__> szal: of?
[13:49] <OldOneEye> looking for someone to co admin my server /msg me
[13:49] <szal> Mars__: *buntu
[13:50] <cbmuser> versus_: well, if that's the default size, yes :)
[13:50] <donavan01> alien64 its a dualboot... every thing works in windows no issue ... and I can also use this machine at other locations with no issue
[13:50] <versus_> cbmuser what distr?
[13:50] <cbmuser> it's currently set to 18 in gconf-editor, the same value as I have on another machine where the cursors are ok
[13:50] <cbmuser> Ubuntu 12.04
[13:51] <szal> cbmuser: -> #ubuntu+1 please (until some time tomorrow)
[13:51] <cbmuser> I already tried update-alternatives --cursor x-cursor-theme which changes the default theme but doesn't fix the problem
[13:51] <Mars__> szal: Ubuntu 11.10
[13:51] <narsil4> I've run into this bug on 12.04 -- is there a fix? The gnome-terminal suggestion there didn't work. http://askubuntu.com/questions/71928/terminal-randomly-disappears-from-alt-tab-list-unity-launcher
[13:51] <Smylie2_> some specialist here who could help me out with driver installation and patching?
[13:51] <mohtadi> well, hey again everyone :p i need help please :'( , i have all my work on my ubuntu and i need to make the system works normally again :\ i restarted it once after it stopped responding, and oops, no longer access to gdm (Couldn't connect to system bus: Failed to connect to socket /usr/local/var/run/dbus/system_bus_socket: Connection refused), can connect only with xdm, no longer access to networking, sound, media mounting and other
[13:51] <versus_> cbmuser damn....you can't change it with GUI congif?
[13:51] <mohtadi> can anyone help me on this?
[13:51] <cbmuser> nope
[13:51] <alien64> donavan01: have you checked dns in your router see if thats correct
[13:51] <mcb_1> donavan01:if you ping www.somesite  by name, your DNS settings are working.
[13:51] <cbmuser> szal: I don't think it's different with previous Ubuntu releases
[13:52] <Smylie2_> oh my got..chaos here.
[13:52] <Smylie2_> god* ^
[13:52] <versus_> cbmuser may be not correct sceen resolution?
[13:52] <Smylie2_> some specialist here who could help me out with driver installation and patching for aircrack?
[13:52] <donavan01> alien64 ... dns is fine on the router it works for other machines on the network plus have hard coded the DNS servers into the machine so that it will pull from google and opendns and still no love
[13:52] <wylde> !patience | Smylie2_
[13:53] <donavan01> mcb_1   I can ping just fine ... which is why I know its not a DNS issue but it acts like one
[13:53] <Mars__> szal: It just stopped working, and no update or change work. Installer/downloader version, apt version from Adobe... No one.
[13:53] <Smylie2_> i just wanted to add the aircrack part. sry.
[13:53] <cbmuser> versus_: hmm, no, native resolution of the TF
[13:53] <cbmuser> T
[13:53] <cbmuser> everything is fine, just the resize cursors
[13:53] <cbmuser> really weird
[13:54] <rinzler> how does one enable backports repository from terminal? I only have ssh available to me for access at the moment...
[13:54] <mcb_1> donavan01: Please elaborate. What is happening?
[13:55] <alien64> donavan01: well there was the dnschanger thing going around the net so thought that might be it but if not a win machine when happening im stumped sorry:(
[13:55] <martin_tsc> When I upgrade to ubuntu11.10 my wifi dies, it still finds the networks but is unable to connect.  right now I reverted back to 11.04 unless.  Can this be fixed or is that a more elaborate project?
[13:55] <rethus> i use kde and mysql-workbechn, which need gnome-keyring
[13:55] <donavan01> alien64 ... its pretty much a fresh install anyways
[13:55] <rethus> but the passwords are not saved - even if i have installed gnome-keyring
[13:55] <rethus> any idea
[13:55] <mohtadi> UP : :D hi everyone :p i need help please :'( , i have all my work on my ubuntu and i need to make the system works normally again :\ i restarted it once after it stopped responding, and oops, no longer access to gdm (Couldn't connect to system bus: Failed to connect to socket /usr/local/var/run/dbus/system_bus_socket: Connection refused), can connect only with xdm, no longer access to networking, sound, media mounting and other feat
[13:56] <mefrio> hi all
[13:56] <mefrio> is there a way to sync iOS 5's music with Ubuntu 12.04?
[13:56] <donavan01> mcb_1 it acts like it cant find the address like for instance if I go to www.facebook.com it might load it might not ... most of the time not ... but I can ping facebook and it will come back ok
[13:57] <versus_> cbmuser dou you try to install dconf-tools?
[13:57] <_k2s_> hi all! i have a problem i was setting up a ftp server on my ubuntu 12.04 and i have accidentally put my user in a group called ftpusers and now it is not a sudoer... I have no root password set to easily change this. What could i do to make my user a sudoer again?
[13:57] <meeep> If you mean from the iTunes Match service using iCloud, mefrio, then I severely doubt it - it's tied to iOS and OS X devices.
[13:57] <wylde> !precise | mefrio _k2s_
[13:57] <cbmuser> versus_: no?
[13:57] <mcb_1> do an #mtr -n www.facebook.com Maybe you are lossing a lot of packetages along the way.
[13:58] <mcb_1> donavan01: do an #mtr -n www.facebook.com Maybe you are lossing a lot of packetages along the way.
[13:58] <martin_tsc> When I upgrade to ubuntu11.10 my wifi dies, it still finds the networks but is unable to connect.  right now I reverted back to 11.04 unless.  Can this be fixed or is that a more elaborate project?
[13:58] <_k2s_> ok thanx
[13:58] <versus_> cbmuser :install it then in terminal dconf-editor
[13:58] <mefrio> meeep, I don't really know what is iTunes Match, I just want to add songs to my iPhone music library using Rhythmbox, Banshee or something else as with iOS 4
[13:58] <cbmuser> versus_: will try
[13:58] <donavan01> mcb_1 I will give that a try
[13:59] <mefrio> wylde, it's a problem also of 10.04, 11.04 and 11.10
[13:59] <mohtadi> UP : :D hi everyone :p i need help please :'( , i have all my work on my ubuntu and i need to make the system works normally again :\ i restarted it once after it stopped responding, and oops, no longer access to gdm (Couldn't connect to system bus: Failed to connect to socket /usr/local/var/run/dbus/system_bus_socket: Connection refused), can connect only with xdm, no longer access to networking, sound, media mounting and other feat
[13:59] <meeep> mefrio: so you mean you want to sync an iOS 5 device to a media player/manager in Ubuntu?
[14:00] <mefrio> meeep, yes
[14:00] <meeep> Might be worth checking out http://www.libimobiledevice.org/
[14:00] <martin_tsc> When I upgrade to ubuntu11.10 my wifi dies, it still finds the networks but is unable to connect.  right now I reverted back to 11.04 unless.  Can this be fixed or is that a more elaborate project?
[14:01] <rethus>  i use kde and mysql-workbechn, which need gnome-keyring but the passwords are not saved - even if i have installed gnome-keyring
[14:01] <Trieste> hi, I'm still stuck at 10.04 (due to various circumstances), when 11.04 is released, can I upgrade directly, or do I have to upgrade to 10.10 first?
[14:01] <mefrio> meeep, I have installed it but nothing changed
[14:01] <bazhang> Trieste, one step from 10.04 to 12.04 yes
[14:01] <donavan01> mcb_1 doesnt look like its loosing any packets
[14:02] <Trieste> bazhang: whoops, right, it's 2012, I meant 11.04 and 12.04 :) either way, thanks!
[14:02] <mcb_1> donavan01: Do you have any firewall rule in the machine?
[14:03] <smile> Hi. Is there an online version of Ubuntu One? :)
[14:03] <donavan01> mcb_I didnt set one up ... but that would block it from working all the time anywyas ... not just some of the time
[14:04] <sebastian> hey wasup guys
[14:04] <mcb_1> donavan01: Deppend of the rule.... But ok, no firewall. Mtr went fine with no package loss.
[14:05] <donavan01> mcb_1 nope its still plugging along and no loss I managed to get logged into facebook but now it wont let me log out
[14:05] <rinzler> apt-get says "you have held broken packages" What does this mean, and should I worry about correcting it>
[14:06] <sebastian> i have a problem with my mp3, i cannot copy files in it because it says to me that the file system is write only
[14:06] <rethus> i ever an ever forget how to find out which Ubuntu-version i have... it was a version-file in /proc
[14:06] <rethus> can somebody help me out
[14:06] <bazhang> !version | rethus
[14:06] <mcb_1> donavan01: Last try for me. Are you doing any other downlowad? Torrents? Like using all your link bandwith?
[14:06] <rethus> thanks
[14:07] <inashdeen> hi there, need a help. my ubuntu does not seem to detect my usb modem. do option ot enable mobile broadband is not present. when i click edit connections > mobile broadband > add, it does not seem to find my modem. what steps should i do to diagnose the problem?
[14:07] <versus_> sebastian usb?
[14:07] <sebastian> versus_ yes, the filesystem is msdos
[14:07] <donavan01> mcb_1 no its fresh from a reboot and I dont have any torrent software running ...I have a monitor on the wlan0 and its doing a little here an there but nothing that should cause it to hang
[14:08] <sebastian> versus_ i've tried different ways like
[14:08] <versus_> sebastian format it to ntfs
[14:08] <sebastian> versus_ ok i'll try
[14:08] <Myrtti> smile: it is somewhat usable with a web browser, if that's what you mean
[14:08] <mcb_1> donavan01:  Is your connection PPoE?
[14:08] <smile> Myrtti: thanks :)
[14:09] <sebastian> versus_ could you tell me how?
[14:09] <donavan01> mcb_1 yeah but thats hadled buy the modem and I have no issues with any other machine on the network
[14:09]  * smile goes back to #ubuntu-nl :) bye :)
[14:09] <GhostWolf> sebastian:install ntfs-3g
[14:09] <sebastian> versus_ right click format ?
[14:09] <versus_> sebastian i guess
[14:09] <sebastian> versus_ ok
[14:09] <donavan01> im not getting an error in chrom that says "the server closed the connection without sending any data"
[14:09] <sebastian> GhostWolf i'll try your way too
[14:09] <donavan01> sorry now getting
[14:11] <mcb_1> donavan01: But it can be it, do #iptables -t mangle -o ppp0 --insert FORWARD 1 -p tcp --tcp-flags SYN,RST SYN -m tcpmss --mss 1400:65495 -j TCPMSS --clamp-mss-to-pmtu
[14:11] <sebastian_> versus_ do you know how to give my user root permissons
[14:12] <versus_> sebasian sudo???
[14:12] <sebastian_> versus_ i mean
[14:12] <sebastian_> versus_ permanently
[14:12] <rinzler> apt-get says "you have held broken packages" What does this mean, and should I worry about correcting it?
[14:13] <versus_> sebastian you mean always work from root?
[14:13] <sebastian_> yes
[14:13] <nitzs> so 12.04 out on the mirrors yet?
[14:13] <nannes> I have an ubuntu box already customized. Now I wanna take the image from it and install (via network) in 20 PCs... how would you do it?
[14:13] <versus_> sebastian i never use it cuz it's not safety
[14:14] <sebastian_> versus_ ok,
[14:14] <donavan01> mcb_1 I did it ... not sure what it was supposed to do
[14:15] <mcb_1> donavan01:  PPPoE datagrams are diferent from normarl ethernet datagras, this is rule is to alter de network datagram to the proper size. Did it work?
[14:15] <donavan01> mcb_1 doesnt look like it
[14:16] <inashdeen_> hi there, my usb modem (mf180) cannot be detected by network manager. it was detected previously, but when i installed a program from etisalat to check my SMS, its lost. i can connect to the net using wvdial, using the etisalat program and sakis 3g, but not with the default ubuntu connection. please tell me step by step to diagnose the problem
[14:16] <mcb_1> donavan01: So im out of ideas now.....
[14:17] <sebastian_> versus_ thank buddy... it appears to be working
[14:17] <donavan01> mcb_1 I may just try blowing the OS away and starting from scratch again if I cant figure something out in the next day or so
[14:17] <versus_> sebastian copy?
[14:17] <nannes> Hi! I have an ubuntu box already customized. Now I wanna take the image from it and install (via network) in 20 PCs... how would you do it?
[14:17] <mcb_1> donavan01: Good luck.
[14:17] <samueljw> does anyone know the program x3watch?
[14:17] <sebastian_> versus_ hell yes it work
[14:17] <sebastian_> s
[14:18] <intore_> hi, i've this error when wlan0 tries to bring up: b43-phy0 ERROR: This device does not support DMA on your system. please use PIO instead. could you help me please. am using the cable now
[14:18] <versus_> sebastian u r wellcome! :)
[14:18] <donavan01> mcb_1 I will apparently need it ... I don't know why I always have to have some usolvable issue everytime I install linux doesnt matter the version or the machine some is always pain in rear
[14:19] <samueljw> I am trying to build a router that monitors traffic and flags mature content.  iptables tcpdump?
[14:19] <samster34> hey :) I'm trying to get SubmlimeClang working for sublime text 2 on ubuntu...having trouble though
[14:19] <alien64> nannes: clone the pc and install it to the others
[14:20] <nannes> alien: how clone? and..is it possible to install it via network to the others?
[14:20] <nannes> *clone how
[14:20] <samueljw> I am trying to build a router that monitors traffic and flags mature content.  iptables tcpdump?
[14:20] <samueljw> does anyone know how I would do that?
[14:21] <pixx> hi
[14:21] <mcb_1> donavan01: I never had this kind of issue, until having a client with PPPoE connection. As I read, PPPoE can be a pain.
[14:21] <samueljw> does anyone know how to read the content of packets in tcpdump?
[14:22] <[S^K]> What is a good piece of software to PULL files to a ubuntu web server from a HTTP location?
[14:22] <mcb_1> donavan01: One more thing, how it is your /etc/network/interfaces? Can you paste it?
[14:22] <donavan01> mcb_1 thing is though PPPoE is handled at the modem not this machine
[14:22] <donavan01> hang on a min
[14:22] <inashdeen_> bump
[14:22] <nannes> [S^K]: installing an ftp server
[14:23] <aznblur> o/, I just installed xubuntu on my desktop, mobo AsRock 870 Extreme3, cpu = AMD PhenomII x6 1055t, gpu = ATI Radeon 6870. The CPU fan and GPU (as far as I can tell) fan both run at near max. I've installed lm-sensors and used fancontrol's pwmconfig to no avail. Where do I go to now?
[14:23] <skrite> what tool do i want to get to know to find out what computer on my home LAN is the biggest bandwidth hog?
[14:23] <[S^K]> nannes: Files must be pulled to the web server, not pushed from a remote machine
[14:23] <alien64> nannes: http://www.linuxquestions.org/questions/linux-newbie-8/how-to-clone-a-pc-695070/
[14:23] <donavan01> mcb_1 http://paste.ubuntu.com/945749/
[14:23] <samueljw> does anyone know how to read the content of packets in tcpdump?
[14:23] <jack_^> i got banned one time for being int his chat from 2 different machines at the same time. 'ban dodging'
[14:24] <jack_^> one was idle at work.
[14:24] <jack_^> :<
[14:24] <samueljw> I am trying to build a router that monitors traffic and flags mature content.  iptables tcpdump?
[14:24] <samueljw> does anyone know how I would do that?
[14:24] <alusion> Hello Ubuntu I just wanted to say that  Docky has stopped working, is this a current bug ? Running 11.10
[14:25] <samueljw> I am trying to build a router that monitors traffic and flags mature content.  iptables tcpdump?
[14:25] <bobweaver> samueljw,  ipcop ? pfsense
[14:25] <koegs> samueljw: just use something like ipcop or endian firewall
[14:25] <nannes> [S^K]: yeah, just install an ftp server on the same pc which has the web sv
[14:25] <wylde> samueljw: not sure if it's still out there but I use to use ipcop, with various addins for that when my kids still lived at home, heh
[14:25] <samueljw> ipcop blocks the content
[14:25] <rinzler_> want to install something that depends on libprotobuf5, but "isn't installable" any ideas?
[14:25] <nannes> [S^K]: you'll be able tu pull files from it
[14:25] <samueljw> ipcop doesn't do exactly what Im wanting.  Have you guys heard of x3watch?
[14:25] <samueljw> I would like to flag the content and then build a report and email it to a user
[14:26] <[S^K]> nannes: Ah I get it, thanks
[14:26] <ggochev1> http://openmaniak.com/tcpdump.php
[14:26] <aznblur> lm-sensors + fancontrol doesn't control my cpu fan. Is there anything else I can try?
[14:26] <rinzler_> samueljw: are you trying to make your own free version?
[14:26] <nannes> [S^K]: there are other ways also, but ftp is the best
[14:26] <samueljw> Kind of.
[14:26] <bouma> seeing as gnome 3 has removed the 'tighter layout' from nautilus, what options do i have to run an older nautilus with that feature under a recent ubuntu?
[14:26] <samueljw> I haven't really found anything out there
[14:26] <nannes> [S^K]: you can do it with PHP, with a file uploader utility
[14:26] <samueljw> that does it like tht
[14:26] <samueljw> other than x3watch on windows
[14:26] <[S^K]> nannes: I was using lynx to download a zip before
[14:27] <samueljw> I'd like to make something that works on a router instead of the client computer
[14:27] <lexxmt> I use squid3,  how I can configure to pass specific domains throw peer proxy? Like *.com go via parent proxy all other direct
[14:27] <samueljw> yes I am trying to make my own free version
[14:27] <mcb_1> donavan01: It is only showing the loopback interface. You can try to configure your interface there, maybe using a static IP for testing. As an understand, you have an ADSL modem, and the machine is linked to the modem by UTP cable, or Wireless connection. That is it?
[14:27] <bouma> does the mate desktop retain the 'tighter layout'? and can it be used with ubuntu?
[14:27] <nannes> [S^K]: yeah, so that server used php fileupload function
[14:27] <samster34> nobody use sublim text here I guess? :/
[14:28] <samueljw> rinzler.  do you know x3watch or other accountability software?
[14:28] <craigbass1976> Is this the official recommended method? http://weblog.scanyours.com/2011/08/23/howto-run-internet-explorer-8-under-ubuntu-11-04-natty-narwhal-using-virtualbox/
[14:28] <rinzler_> samueljw: a router. Cool! If you could build it into dd-wrt or something like that, you could have a whole army of those things for people to install on their own...
[14:29] <jrib> samster34: please just ask your actual question, you'll have better luck that way
[14:29] <rinzler_> samueljw: yeah, people at my church use it
[14:29] <nannes> [S^K]: sorry,mistake. That server just put those files in a available directory of the website
[14:29] <HoNgOuRu> where is xorg.conf in 11.10 ? how do I make a permanent new resolution mode ?
[14:29] <samueljw> thanks rinzler.  do you have any networking/programming experience?
[14:29] <donavan01> mcb_1 ... it uses wireless through a router to connect to the ADSL modem .... so its MODEM[14:30] <jrib> !x | HoNgOuRu
[14:30] <rinzler_> samueljw: Not enough. as much as I'd love to help. sorry :(
[14:31] <samster34> jrib: I did. I can't geet SublimeClang to work. I got clang3.0 from the software center, I even downloaded it separtely and made sue the libclang.so is in the right place...and I don't get an error loadig libclang.so anymore, but nothing happens now.
[14:31] <rinzler_> samueljw: you might try #networking or something similar...
[14:31] <samueljw> Im just trying to figure out the method.  do you know anything about tcpdump?
[14:31] <samueljw> ok. thanks rinzler.
[14:31] <mcb_1> donavan01: Last tink that i can think of, do your Ubuntu install told you anything about "aditional" or  "proprietary drivers"? If so, check if your Wireless card need aditional driver. I can not think of anything else.....
[14:32] <inashdeen_> bump
[14:32] <jrib> samster34: I have no clue what you are trying to do and have some vague idea of what you did to resolve your issue after reading that.
[14:32] <samster34> jrib: :)
[14:32] <WhitePelican> is precise on schedule?
[14:32] <rinzler_> inashdeen_: no one can tell what your question is.
[14:32] <donavan01> mcb_1 nope ... installed everything clean as a whistle ... no hickups
[14:33] <jrib> samster34: you should say "I did X", "I was expecting Y", "but Z happened instead"
[14:33] <craigbass1976> samueljw, you're trying to see which computer is hogging bandwidth?  The only way I know, other than buying a ridiculously priced router or building your own Linux router, is by having an old fashioned dumb hub and using tcpdump
[14:33] <inashdeen_> rinzler_: hi there, my usb modem (mf180) cannot be detected by network manager. it was detected previously, but when i installed a program from etisalat to check my SMS, its lost. i can connect to the net using wvdial, using the etisalat program and sakis 3g, but not with the default ubuntu connection. please tell me step by step to diagnose the problem
[14:33] <OldOneEye> how do i install the latest apache
[14:33] <OldOneEye> how do i install the latest apache
[14:33] <samster34> jrib: I folowed the instructions here, epxecting to et the results described, but I get no results: https://github.com/quarnster/SublimeClang
[14:33] <jrib> samster34: what ubuntu version is this?
[14:34] <aznblur> lm-sensors + fancontrol doesn't control my cpu fan. Is there anything else I can try?
[14:34] <craigbass1976> OldOneEye, I can't remember the command, but google for install lamp server ubuntu.  Something like sudo apt-get install lamp-server^ but check before running that
[14:34] <samster34> 12.04, it didn't work t all in my old 10.04
[14:34] <jrib> samster34: and what exactly do you mean when you say "I downloaded it separtely and made sue the libclang.so is in the right place"?
[14:34] <rinzler_> craigbass1976: samueljw is trying to look at contents of packets to flag content to generate a notification e-mail. in this case, explicit content.
[14:34] <jrib> samster34: 12.04 is supported in #ubuntu+1 until final release
[14:34] <Travis-42> every time I plug in my usb headset, ubuntu stops outputting sound from my speakers (good), but puts the volume at 0 on the headset. Any idea how to fix this?
[14:34] <jcgs> OldOneEye: "sudo apt-get install apache2" will get you the latest supported apache
[14:34] <samster34> jri: I dowloaded the compiled binaries
[14:35] <craigbass1976> rinzler_, neat.
[14:36] <rinzler_> craigbass1976: yeah, there's already a browser for it, but he's looking at building software for a router, or firewall that does that kind of thing at the network admin level instead of at the client...
[14:37] <alien64> nannes: also this >>> http://www.howtogeek.com/howto/21257/transfer-a-drive-image-over-a-network-using-an-ubuntu-live-cd/
[14:38] <miistx> un saluto a tutti
[14:38] <nannes> lol salve miistx
[14:38] <nannes> però questo è il canale inglese :D
[14:38] <alien64> nannes: try clonezilla its great
[14:39] <bazhang> !it | miistx
[14:40] <aznblur> lm-sensors + fancontrol doesn't control my cpu fan. Is there anything else I can try?
[14:40] <craigbass1976> rinzler, I was trying to figure out up here where all the bandwidth was going.  Took me several phone calls to find one of the old hubs to do a packet capture...
[14:40] <nannes> My brain is mixing & elaborating all the info I'm looking... I think it's possible to write the created image with a normal "network installation" method
[14:40] <nannes> alien64: ^
[14:40] <craigbass1976> Is this the official recommended method? http://weblog.scanyours.com/2011/08/23/howto-run-internet-explorer-8-under-ubuntu-11-04-natty-narwhal-using-virtualbox/
[14:41] <alien64> nannes: yupperz
[14:42] <en1gma> its almost thursday :)
[14:44] <guest_____> my wireless connection is dropping all the time on ubuntu. although this do not happen on vista. of course i've got a weak signal, but why is different?
[14:44] <alien64> nannes: to deploy the img to multiple pc's id use clonezilla method but thats me...
[14:46] <nannes> alien64: ok, and what about MRB ?
[14:46] <nannes> *MBR
[14:46] <jackbrownhf> could someone explain me what this command does "    sudo iptables -t nat -A PREROUTING -p tcp --destination-port XXXX -j REDIRECT --to-port XXXX"
[14:47] <jackbrownhf> oo
[14:48] <alien64> nannes: if the cloned img includes it shouldnt be a problem
[14:49] <martin_tsc> When I upgrade to ubuntu11.10 my wifi dies, it still finds the networks but is unable to connect.  right now I reverted back to 11.04 unless.  Can this be fixed or is that a more elaborate project?
[14:50] <nannes> alien64: mm ok so I'll need the image of the whole disk
[14:51] <intore> hi, my network interfaces still not bring up. it's a Broadcom Corporation BCM4312 802.11b/g. i installed bcmwl-kernel-source and type the command modprobe b43 ssb wl and modprobe wl but it doesn't work. could you help me please?
[14:52] <rinzler> want to install something that depends on libprotobuf5, but "isn't installable" any ideas?
[14:52] <inashdeen_> wvdial detect my modem, but network manager dont. any fix?
[14:55] <Yuri20> omg
[14:55] <intore> no ideas?
[14:56] <p1l0t> Whats up penguins
[14:56] <myhero> when printing any webpage....then how to change default format from .ps to .pdf permanently ?
[14:57] <compdoc> intore, look in /etc/udev/rules.d/70-persistent-net.rules
[14:58] <myhero> when printing any webpage....then how to change default format from .ps to .pdf permanently ?
[14:59] <myhero> any1
[14:59] <myhero> when printing any webpage....then how to change default format from .ps to .pdf permanently ?
[14:59] <guest_____> is there a problem for wireless connections on 11-10?
[14:59] <meeep> myhero: please be patient. People will answer when they can, repeating the enquiry every minute won't get you an answer any quicker.
[14:59] <Pici> myhero: Please stop repeating so often.
[15:00] <intore> compdoc: this is that file. what do you think? http://paste.ubuntu.com/945791/
[15:00] <guest_____> been told to wait 5 or 10 minutes so ...
[15:01] <lennart_> hi guys, how does this work?
[15:01] <feydrm> Is 12.04 dropping today or ...?
[15:01] <compdoc> intore, that looks odd to me, but more important, does that comform to your nics?
[15:01] <feydrm> Is there a calendar somewhere on the wiki besdes just the roadmap timeline?
[15:02] <donavan01> if I get a beta will it upgrade to the full version when canonical releases the 12.04
[15:02] <compdoc> intore, in that file, delete the #PCI device entries, and reboot. that will rebuild the file and place the nics in the proper order
[15:02] <ubuntu__> hello all: I have run out of room on my home dir on my duel boot ubuntu/win 7 laptop. But there is a PQservice partition as long as I have made the recovery disk can this partition be safley deleted?
[15:02] <itadmin> Hi! Anyone know a good gui for "mt" ?
[15:04] <myhero> when printing any webpage....then how to change default format from .ps to .pdf permanently ?
[15:04] <intore> compdoc: it was wlan0 but it didn't work. the error was b43-phy0 ERROR: This device does not support DMA on your system. please use PIO instead. so i installed bcmwl-kernel-source and type the commands modprobe -r b43 ssb wl and modprobe wl and the interface has been renamed as eth1
[15:05] <myhero> too much time n no help so repeating question so that newer users could see it n answer...
[15:05] <compdoc> intore, when nics get renamed, /etc/udev/rules.d/70-persistent-net.rules  can get screwed up, so its best to reset it
[15:06] <intore> compdoc: so, i'll delete the lines of wlan0 and eth1?
[15:06] <compdoc> delete them all
[15:06] <compdoc> # PCI device 0x14e4:0x1698 (tg3)    etc
[15:06] <compdoc> then reboot
[15:07] <intore> compdoc: ok
[15:07] <Travis-42> Hello, I'm trying to use apport-cli to report some information about a bug. It asks me to "Please choose (1/2/3/4/5/6/7/8/9/10/11/12/C):" but if I try to try in 12, it jumps to the next question after pressing 1. any ideas?
[15:08] <thierry_> hi everyone
[15:10] <thierry_> i have made a dumb error , and now my sestem is down, i tried to upgrade my 10.04 to 12.94 with update-manager when finishing it indicated where do you want to install grub2, i selected my linux partition , and now, i have no longer access to either windows or ubuntu, grub indicates, grub_xputs is not found i think
[15:11] <ubuntu__> is it safe to delete PQservice from my Laptop HD? If so can I then move my /home dir to that space?
[15:12] <alien64> thierry_: is there a way to reinstall grub from the live cd>
[15:12] <thierry_> i have a live cd, i'm booting on it right now
[15:12] <thierry_> but i really don't know what to do
[15:12] <MonkeyDust> !grub| thierry_ this may be helpful
[15:13] <deadmund> ubuntu__: PQService is a recovery partition built in by the manufacturer.  It will not harm ubuntu in any way to delete it but it will probably make windows freak out and it will make you unable to restore your windows installation ever again
[15:13] <myhero> when printing any webpage....then how to change default format from .ps to .pdf permanently ?
[15:13] <meeep> myhero: DuckDuckGo (or Google, or whoever you search by) is your friend. Although older versions, it should be worth looking at http://michaeljaylissner.com/blog/change-the-default-print-to-file-to-pdf-in-ubuntu-hardy and http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1228123
[15:13] <intore> compdoc: it doesn't work. the error message trying bring it up is: eth1: ERROR while getting interfaces flags: no such device
[15:13] <thierry_> MonkeyDust:  alien64  i does not understand why i have not access to windows
[15:13] <meeep> Now please, research yourself, and don't repeat your question so much - simply using new users entering doesn't justify the frequency.
[15:13] <compdoc> intore, you have a wired and a wireless nic?
[15:14] <alien64> thierry_: http://linuxpoison.blogspot.com/2011/06/how-to-reinstall-grub-2-in-ubuntu-using.html try this
[15:14] <compdoc> intore, sounds like eth1 doesnt exist anymore?
[15:14] <intore> compdoc: both, now am using wired and checking in /etc/udev/rules.d/70-persistent-net.rules there is not lines about eth1
[15:14] <ubuntu__> deadmund: I have recovery disks made from the data that partition when the the laptop was new do I still need the data in the partition
[15:14] <longwei> #qt
[15:15] <deadmund> ubuntu__: IDK, you tell me.  If you trust the recovery disks then sounds to me like you don't need that partition.
[15:15] <compdoc> intore, that means the system does not see the nic if one exists
[15:15] <MonkeyDust> !qt| longwei
[15:15] <intore> compdoc: fantastic!
[15:15] <intore> compdoc: maybe is not well installed?
[15:16] <compdoc> yes, the driver is suspect now
[15:16] <intore> compdoc: which checks could i do?
[15:17] <myhero> meep: thnx 4 refering ur frnd duckduckgo 2 me....will surely consult ur duckgo....
[15:18] <compdoc> intore, sorry, but I dont have experience getting BCM4312 to work - I know it can be a problem. Sometimes, a newer version of Ubuntu can support it
[15:18] <meeep> myhero: http://duckduckgo.com/ - clean search, no tracking ^_^
[15:18] <alien64> thierry_: you cant boot windows cuz grub dunno where windows is lol
[15:19] <myhero> meep: thnx but is duckgo's search as powerfull as google ?
[15:20] <alien64> bbiab
[15:20] <Plume> test
[15:21] <intore> compdoc: is possible to upgrade using a cd?
[15:21] <compdoc> intore, what version do you have?
[15:22] <intore> compdoc: 10.10
[15:22] <upset> My usb drive won't mount. After I put an Android iso on it, cleaning it out does nothing and it's not accessible at all.
[15:22] <compdoc> intore, might be best to install fresh. but always backup first
[15:22] <upset> Umount says it's unmounted, but mount says it doesn't exist
[15:23] <bazhang> !eolupgrades | intore
[15:23] <mynnx> is anyone else experiencing an issue installing python-mysqldb right now?  I'm getting an error about a dependency that "will not be installed"
[15:23] <L3top> upset, mount will not find an unmounted drive. try fdisk -l
[15:24] <mynnx> https://gist.github.com/2490610
[15:24] <upset> L3top: Will do
[15:24] <intore> ubottu: thanks
[15:24] <intore> compdoc: thanks
[15:24] <compdoc> intore, good luck
[15:25] <upset> L3top: Cannot open
[15:25] <upset> L3top: Wait, do I need root permission for this?
[15:25] <meganerd> upset: yes
[15:26] <l_r> is ubuntu 12.42 out?
[15:26] <upset> meganerd: Sigh. Redoing
[15:26] <meganerd> upset: or you could just use sudo
[15:26] <meganerd> upset: sudo fdisk -l
[15:26] <l_r> there must be some hidden places where to download it from
[15:26] <upset> meganerd: I did, I did. What am I looking for here?
[15:27] <bazhang> l_r, there are not
[15:27] <meganerd> upset: or the overly complicated way: "for each in /dev/sd[a-z] ; do parted $each print ; done"
[15:27] <upset> meganerd: I did it already! What am I trying to glean from this information?
[15:28] <meganerd> partitition infor for the drive that you were messing with
[15:28] <upset> I see it.
[15:29] <upset> meganerd: I already know what kind of partition I tried to write, and that's what it shows.
[15:29] <mynnx> why is apt-get telling me that packages "have unmet dependencies" and refuses to install, rather than just downloading/installing them like it normally does?  https://gist.github.com/2490610
[15:29] <meganerd> upset: so am I correct in assuming there is data on there that you want back?
[15:29] <compdoc> intore, boot the latest ubuntu live cd and see if it works
[15:29] <upset> meganerd: Not at all
[15:29] <meganerd> upset: are you just trying to mount it?
[15:29] <upset> meganerd: Yes
[15:30] <meganerd> upset: what file system is it?
[15:30] <upset> meganerd: fat32
[15:30] <intore> compdoc: ok, i'll try
[15:30] <upset> meganerd: Standard stuff
[15:30] <L3top> what are you typing to try and mount it upset?
[15:31] <meganerd> upset: what happens when you do: "sudo mount -t vfat /dev/sd<drive><partition> /mount/point"?
[15:31] <meganerd> upset: changing the relevant parts of course
[15:31] <upset> meganerd: Uuuuuuh, mount point?
[15:31] <meganerd> upset: an empty folder
[15:31] <upset> meganerd: I can mount devices to random folders on my drive?
[15:32] <upset> meganerd: Like a boat?
[15:32] <meganerd> upset: it can be anywhere, the automount stuff usually uses /media, for custom ones for testing I use /mnt
[15:32] <Promethes> hi, how to upgrade to ubuntu 12.04 today? i tried sudo do-release-upgrade -f kde -d without any success
[15:32] <MonkeyDust> Promethes  i tried it too, won't work until official release
[15:32] <alo21> hi all
[15:32] <upset> meganerd: Trying
[15:32] <gooren> yo
[15:33] <meganerd> upset: devices can be mounted anywhere, you can also do this in windows, though most people still seem to like the drive letter paradigm.
[15:33] <alo21> do you know a channel where I can talk about programming?
[15:33] <L3top> what language alo21
[15:33] <alo21> L3top: C
[15:33]  * L3top join #c
[15:34] <L3top> lol
[15:34] <L3top> tired sorry
[15:34] <mynnx> well, that was easy
[15:34] <upset> meganerd: Ran it, nothing happened. Shall I check /media/, the mount point?
[15:34] <upset> meganerd: Wuh.... There is nothing in media
[15:34] <L3top> type mount
[15:34] <L3top> there is nothing on the drive
[15:35] <upset> I did mount, it said the drive did not exist
[15:35] <L3top> the /mount directory is where you mounted it
[15:35] <excalibr> has the oficial precise iso silently hit the mirrors?
[15:35] <L3top> so it will appear empty
[15:35] <xamox> Can someone point me to an install guide to put ubuntu 12.04 on my mac mini?
[15:35]  * xamox tears a few chunks of hair out
[15:35] <ikonia> xamox: exactly the same as a normal install
[15:35] <upset> L3top: It won't even have a folder?
[15:35] <myhero> how to change default os frm ubuntu to win7 during boot ?
[15:35] <L3top> type df -T
[15:35] <L3top> No, it will show the contents of the drive
[15:35] <L3top> which is blank
[15:35] <upset> L3top: What is that?
[15:35] <xamox> ikonia, the new mac mini's don't have a cd rom drive, so no so normal.
[15:35] <myhero> ikonia: when printing any webpage....then how to change default format from .ps to .pdf permanently ?
[15:36] <ikonia> xamox: normal usb page
[15:36] <ikonia> myhero: no idea,
[15:36] <L3top> that is a convenient way to see what is mounted, what the file type is, and how much space is available, and where it is mounted
[15:36] <upset> ikonia is here? Aren't you an Elementary dev?
[15:36] <xamox> ikonia, I will take a gander.
[15:36] <meganerd> upset: if you know the device, can you read the partition table?  eg: "sudo parted /dev/sdb print"?
[15:36] <ikonia> upset: not done much with Elementary for a long time
[15:37] <myhero> ikonia: how to change default os frm ubuntu to win7 during boot ?
[15:37] <alo21> L3top: thank you anyway
[15:37] <upset> ikonia: Oh. Why's that?
[15:37] <meganerd> upset: also, create an empty subfolder, /media is where automount creates folders, so you don't actually want to use /media
[15:37] <ikonia> upset: time
[15:37] <ikonia> myhero: you need to change it in grub
[15:37] <ikonia> !grub2 > myhero
[15:37] <upset> ikonia: Fair enough
[15:37] <GG111> darn it. no matter what I do, I cannot turn on the system beep !
[15:37] <myhero> ok
[15:37] <GG111> I installed 11.10 from scratch, just for that, still, no go.
[15:37] <GG111> all sounds are fine. but cannot get alert sound to work.
[15:37] <upset> meganerd: Why would that help? Also, trying
[15:37] <thierry_> SO i used boot-reparir to restore my grub after migrating from 10.04 to 12.04 , but now , if i select ubuntu on the main menu, it blocks on a purple screen, and if i check recovery mode, i get , please append a correct "root=" to boot ... kernel panic not sync vas : unable to mount root rf on unknown-block
[15:38] <xamox> ikonia, You mean this page? https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation/FromUSBStick
[15:38] <L3top> alo21: there is a ##c++ channel
[15:38] <ikonia> xamox: looks good
[15:38] <xamox> ikonia, Right, except mac doesn't have BIOS
[15:38] <ikonia> xamox: so ?
[15:38] <alo21> L3top: i try
[15:38] <upset> meganerd: Told me nothing I did not already know
[15:39] <meganerd> upset: ok, so there is a partition and parted did not return any errors?
[15:39] <upset> meganerd: Nope
[15:39] <thierry_> so any help with that ??? :-)
[15:39] <GG111> anybody for system beep help ?
[15:39] <upset> meganerd: Gparted thinks it's okay, too. I keep doing checks, but nothing
[15:39] <meganerd> upset: so lets create a directory, /mnt/test or /media/test
[15:40] <myhero> ikonia: how to use grub n what to do in it to edit it inorder to set win7 as default boot os against the current deafult ubuntu oneiric ?
[15:40] <railsraider> i have no timestamp in dmesg - how do i see the timestamp?
[15:40] <meganerd> then "sudo /dev/sdb1 /mnt/test"
[15:40] <upset> meganerd: Kay
[15:40] <ikonia> myhero: read the link ubottu sent you
[15:40] <myhero> ok
[15:40] <meganerd> or "sudo /dev/sdb1 /media/test"
[15:40] <ikonia> meganerd: what ?
[15:40] <upset> meganerd: Woah, what
[15:40] <ikonia> upset: what's the issue
[15:40] <ikonia> meganerd: that won't do anything
[15:41] <meganerd> whoops good catch, forgot to typ mount
[15:41] <savr> how do I move the location of the notifications
[15:41] <upset> ikonia: Android iso (as it has done in the past) messed up my drive. I'm trying to clear it out and put files on it. It did lots of weird things and now is unmountable
[15:41] <meganerd> upset: sudo m ount /dev/sdb1 /mnt/test
[15:42] <savr> and why can't I click to close?
[15:42] <upset> ikonia: Reads as normal though
[15:42] <meganerd> upset: if you don't care about the data, we can always reformat it
[15:42] <upset> meganerd: I did that
[15:42] <upset> meganerd: There is no data
[15:42] <meganerd> upset: sudo mkfs.vfat /dev/sdb1 (or whatever the device and partition are)
[15:42] <ikonia> upset: what's the actual problem though ?
[15:43] <upset> ikonia: I can't mount it, I can't do anything with it
[15:43] <L3top> upset, I believe you did just mount it. df -T would have told you.
[15:43] <ikonia> upset: from what you've said, it's already mounted
[15:44] <upset> ikonia: It doesn't show up anywhere
[15:44] <upset> ikonia: All I have is a silly test folder
[15:44] <upset> wait
[15:44] <upset> It is mounted
[15:44] <L3top> yes
[15:44] <upset> according to gparted
[15:44] <L3top> if you type umount /media
[15:44] <L3top> the test folder will go away
[15:45] <upset> L3top: Hmm
[15:45] <quiescens> no idea what everyone is trying to do
[15:45] <L3top> btw, you should mount it to a folder IN there... as automount will create a temporary folder to mount things to in /media
[15:45] <L3top> I would not mount things to the root of /media
[15:46] <L3top> so sudo mkdir /media/usbdrive
[15:46] <upset> Unmounted, unplugged, replugged, untouchable
[15:46] <ikt> hrm
[15:46] <ikt> any way of getting an sms/email when ubuntu 12.04 is released?
[15:47] <L3top> sudo mount /dev/sdXX /media/usbdrive
[15:47] <L3top> ls /media/usbdrive     should return the test folder
[15:47] <upset> There remains a nautilus item that has no eject symbol and does not even show when in nautilus with root permissions
[15:47] <Pici> ikt: Subscribe to https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-announce
[15:47] <upset> L3top: Yo, tag comments with my name. I can't keep track of all these commands
[15:48] <upset> L3top: I really would just like a normal little drive that shows up in regular nautilus and lets me access its contents
[15:49] <MonkeyDust> !who| L3top
[15:49] <upset> MonkeyDust: Thx
[15:49] <xamox> ikonia, Poked around the net, I think that doc is out of date, newer mac mini's appear to need refit installed
[15:49] <L3top> sorry... I will start over upset: sudo mkdir /media/usbdrive; sudo mount /dev/sdXX /media/usbdrive; ls /media/usbdrive
[15:50] <upset> L3top: So.... you don't know how to make it a vanilla drive? Because this all seems silly...
[15:50] <L3top> upset where sdXX is your drive and partition eg sdg1, I expect that will reveal the test folder
[15:50] <upset> L3top: Blegh. I will check it out, hold on....
[15:51] <L3top> upset: I am trying to confirm nothing is wrong with the drive.
[15:52] <meganerd> upset: "sudo mkfs.vfat /dev/sdXN" will put a new file system on the device, wiping all previous data
[15:52] <upset> L3top: Wha.... No such file or directory?!
[15:52] <upset> L3top: On the last one
[15:52] <upset> L3top: Wouldn't mkdir have given me errors if I had not made a folder??
[15:52] <meganerd> upset: "sudo dd if=/dev/zero of=/dev/sdX bs=446 count=1" will wipe out any boot loaders that may be installed on that device
[15:53] <L3top> upset: are you copying and pasting or retyping?
[15:53] <ikt> Pici: I am! but I need to find a way for my phone to alert me once I receive the email
[15:53] <upset> L3top: What?
[15:53] <upset> meganerd: Oh, okay. I will save those commands
[15:53] <upset> meganerd: *that last command
[15:54] <L3top> upset are you copying what I am writing here and pasting it into a terminal, or ssh if it is another machine, or are you retyping the commands?
[15:54] <nitzs> hello. so everyone ready to welcome the new beast?
[15:54] <upset> L3top: Copied first, wrote the others. Would you like to see what I commanded?
[15:55] <L3top> yes please.
[15:55] <upset> L3top: sudo mkdir /media/usbdrive
[15:55] <upset> L3top: sudo mount /dev/sdc1 /media/usbdrive
[15:55] <Star2012> is there still a connection issue or is it my system
[15:56] <upset> L3top: ls media/usbdrive/
[15:56] <sidharth> hello everyone, i was trying to resize my partition using kubuntu`s partition manager, but it crashed in between the process and now i have lost all of my data, Sumone please guide me how i can recover the data. The partition was in ntfs format.
[15:56] <L3top> ls /media/usbdrive
[15:56] <Star2012> humm
[15:56] <upset> L3top: Dude, type in my name
[15:57] <upset> L3top: Ooooh
[15:57] <upset> Whoops
[15:57] <upset> L3top: Retrying
[15:57] <upset> L3top: Aha, test is there
[15:57] <upset> L3top: Now how can I make it normal again?
[15:58] <upset> L3top: sudo dd if=/dev/zero of=/dev/sdX bs=446 count=1? To remove any bootloaders?
[15:58] <L3top> upset: follow <meganerd> upset: "sudo dd if=/dev/zero of=/dev/sdX bs=446 count=1" will wipe out any boot loaders that may be installed on that device
[15:58] <meganerd> upset: by normal I assume you mean a regular flash drive?
[15:58] <L3top> he means when he plugs it in, nautilis automounts it meganerd... I believe.
[15:59] <upset> meganerd: Nah, man. I totally want a vampire flash drive
[15:59] <Star2012> sidharth,  put the drive in another system running nt
[15:59] <upset> meganerd: I want to name it Edward and paint it white
[15:59] <Star2012> and good luck
[15:59] <upset> L3top: Trying
[15:59] <L3top> might unmount it first...
[16:00] <L3top> upset unmount it
[16:00] <rabbi1> how to extract password protected .rar file without password ?
[16:00] <upset> L3top: Good catch!
[16:00] <whoever_> hi all i have a virtual ubuntu that can get to www, but cannot see it on lan , can someone assist
[16:00] <upset> L3top: I would have forgotten....
[16:01] <MonkeyDust> whoever_  may have to change NAT to bridged, to make a logical bridge to your existing network
[16:01] <nitzs> sidharth: you probably would want to check out testdisk or photorec
[16:01] <upset> L3top: Done
[16:02] <upset> L3top: So, what now? Unplug replug check nautilus?
[16:02] <L3top> I would format it again
[16:02] <L3top> upset format it
[16:02] <L3top> upset: then remove and replug
[16:02] <upset> L3top: Blegh. Is it acceptable to just use Gparted?
[16:02] <L3top> upset: I would
[16:02] <SafariMonkey> Does anyone here know of a complete list of lenses for unity? if not, would it be worth creating/initiating?
[16:02] <upset> L3top: Cool. Trying
[16:03] <upset> L3top: Wait, should I start from scratch and write a new partition table or format it to fat32 again?
[16:04] <meganerd> upset: I would write out a new partition table
[16:04] <upset> L3top: How bout you?
[16:04] <meganerd> upset: actually I would write zeros to the whole disk first, though if this is a flash drive that is not really useful
[16:04]  * L3top deferrs to meganerd
[16:05] <steve-o_> I have an Ubuntu 11.10 server that boots fine if I go to the bios boot menu and select the drive, but it won't boot otherwise. BIOS says " no boot device found." Would that be a grub problem? I never see the bootloader menu and this is the only OS on the drive.
[16:05] <upset> Aight
[16:05] <L3top> afk
[16:05] <upset> meganerd L3top: Trying
[16:07] <upset> meganerd: Aw sweet, it worked
[16:07] <meganerd> upset: awesome
[16:07] <upset> meganerd: Your command did the trick! I'm saving that one.
[16:07] <SafariMonkey> As no-one seems to know of one, is it worth adding to the wiki?
[16:07] <upset> meganerd: You would not believe how hard it is to get this thing back to normal after android, although android is really fun
[16:08] <upset> meganerd: Thanks so much, man. And if you would please, tell L3top thanks too
[16:08] <rabbi1> how to extract password protected .rar file without password ?
[16:08] <meganerd> upset: all that command does is remove the boot loader that android (or any OS for that matter) from the drive.  It should leave the partition table alone
[16:08] <upset> L3top: Thank you! Everything works now
[16:08] <meganerd> upset: glad to have helped
[16:08] <upset> Meganerd: Okay
[16:09] <upset> meganerd: Later, brother
[16:09] <meeep> steve-o_: Have you checked the boot priority order in the BIOS, make sure that drive is first (or after any disk drives, which are empty, i.e. DVD-ROM)?
[16:09] <Imre> Hy boys! Is there a way to make Application starter ( Ubuntu 10.04 LTS ) different / user, and if yes, how do I achive that?
[16:10] <steve-o_> meeep: Yes, I even disabled all other options. There is only one HDD and it is first in boot priority. Weird that it will boot fine if I just select the drive in boot menu.
[16:10] <Imre> for Example: I want Bob able to see "remote connection" command, but Sarah shall not see the command icon of the program
[16:10] <MrUnagi> if i install a dhcp server on ubuntu then disable dhcp on the router will all computers automatically pull from the ubuntu server when they expire?
[16:10] <upset> meganerd: AAGH
[16:11] <Imre> MrUnagi: Possibly, yes
[16:11] <upset> meganerd: I DON'T HAVE PERMISSION TO WRITE
[16:11] <upset> meganerd: ;_;
[16:11] <meganerd> MrUnagi:  if ithe dhcp server is running, and it could happen earier if a machine reboots or reaches the halfway point of the lease
[16:12] <meganerd> upset: if it is mounted, just sudo chmod 777 /media/<whatever automount puts here>
[16:12] <MrUnagi> meganerd: but theoretically there wouldnt be a disruption on the network
[16:12] <upset> bjorn_248: Aren't you the guy who makes all those nice themes?
[16:12] <meganerd> MrUnagi: nope, unless you make a mistake :)
[16:12] <upset> meganerd: What will that do?
[16:12] <bjorn_248> upset, nah, I wish :P
[16:12] <meganerd> upset: give all users write permission to that folder
[16:12] <meeep> steve-o_: it might be a long shot, but have you check the master/slave jumper status on the drive? If it's thinking it's a slave on the bus, when something else is master, that could cause issues
[16:12] <upset> bjorn_248: You have just the same name as a nice designer!
[16:13] <MrUnagi> meganerd: hehehe well if i apt-get install dhcp-server will it cause issues and conflicts
[16:13] <bjorn_248> :O, really, upset, you should link me :P
[16:13] <meeep> steve-o_: if it's master and the only one on the bus (or others are slave) it's fine, otherwise there tends to be a Cable Select option, which means it'll switch as the BIOS needs
[16:13] <upset> meganerd: Okay. Um, not sure what you mean by "whatever automount puts here"
[16:14] <SafariMonkey> Hello? people?
[16:14] <bjorn_248> hello
[16:14] <steve-o_> meeep: It worked when I installed CentOS but I switched to Ubuntu and it never worked correctly. I was thinking of slamming an old Windoze drive in just to see if it would boot off that normally. Also thought of upgrading the BIOS on the MB but haven't done either yet.
[16:14] <upset> bjorn_248: Looking, bro
[16:15] <bjorn_248> upset, that was directed at SafariMonkey as a friendly hello reply :)
[16:15] <upset> bjorn_248: Then tag him!
[16:15] <bjorn_248> I should have :O
[16:15] <skyme> salut à tous
[16:15] <upset> bjorn_248: Also, I can't find the artist
[16:15] <bjorn_248> hmm
[16:15] <upset> bjorn_248: He exists, he's just not a linux artist I guess
[16:16] <bjorn_248> I've had this username since 2003
[16:16] <upset> I only meant the name
[16:16] <upset> B jorn
[16:16] <upset> or Bjorn
[16:16] <bjorn_248> oh right
[16:16] <meeep> steve-o_: how did you replace CentOS with Ubuntu? Did you just put in a CD and wipe as you installed, or did you wipe the drive before installing Ubuntu? I'm thinking it might be a Master Boot Record issue
[16:16] <bjorn_248> it's a common first name in scandanavia
[16:16] <bazhang> !ot | upset bjorn_248
[16:16] <upset> :\
[16:16] <upset> Jeez
[16:16] <bjorn_248> sowwy
[16:16] <upset> Fine
[16:17]  * bjorn_248 crawls back to his cave
[16:17] <upset> Man, at some times of day this channel is very uptight. Anyway, meganerd: what am I looking for in media?
[16:17] <magic_al> hi all, i have a hp laptop here with a working winows installation. i tried that some time ago and had problems with the internet connection. now i checked the laptop via a windows installation and realized that my ethernat card is broken. the wlan card is not supported by ubuntu. what can i do to get it work?
[16:17] <Imre> boys: Can U help me? Is there any way to make the Application starter ( GNOME ) different for different users?
[16:17] <magic_al> * sorry: i tried to install ubuntu 11 some time ago
[16:17] <steve-o_> meeep: I let it reformat the whole drive as if it were a new drive. We just decided to use Ubuntu because that's what we are more familiar with. It was a fresh CentOS install but we never used it. Just started over is all. I am thinking MBR too but not sure how to fix.
[16:18] <upset> meganerd: I am ridiculous, disregard what I just asked
[16:18] <upset> meganerd: Also trying
[16:19] <SafariMonkey> I was asking about lenses. I had difficulty finding lenses I wanted (wether they existed) and thought there would probably be a list of lenses so they could be browsed rather than relying on individual google searches for random topics of interest and top-ten type lists.  When no-one seemed to know of such a thing, I wondered if such a thing should be made, and where to put it (the wiki?).  Any suggestions?
[16:19] <upset> meganerd: Nothing changed. Still do not have permission.
[16:20] <Lazik> SafariMonkey: Yes great idea && the wiki is a fine place
[16:20] <savr> how do I move the location of the notifications
[16:22] <impi> hello, anyone upgraded from 10.4 desktop to 12.4?
[16:22] <iceroot_> impi: the guys in #ubuntu+1
[16:22] <impi> iceroot_, thank you,
[16:22] <SafariMonkey> Lazik: I am not too familiar with the wiki structure (I usually search it) so where in the wiki? This: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Unity/Lenses seems to be all about developent.
[16:22] <impi> im heading over there now
[16:23] <deiu> Hello!
[16:23] <deiu> Does anyone know the exact date for the release of 12.04?
[16:23] <stefanhgm> tomorrow
[16:23] <bazhang> deiu, there is none
[16:23] <bazhang> deiu, some time on 4/26
[16:23] <deiu> On the site it says April, so...
[16:24] <meltinpot> 26/04
[16:24] <deiu> Cool, thanks!
[16:25] <upset> meganerd: You still there dude?
[16:26] <savr> how do I move the location of where notifications show up?
[16:27] <myhero_> i hve a script...how to run it ?
[16:27] <YYalim> hi, just tried to join #rubyonrails channel dont know how to
[16:27] <bazhang> !register | YYalim
[16:27] <bazhang> YYalim, /join #freenode for more help
[16:28] <meganerd> upset: had to step away
[16:28] <YYalim> oh tanks!
[16:28] <upset> meganerd: It's cool
[16:28] <myhero_> how to run a script in ubuntu ?
[16:28] <upset> meganerd: You owe me nothing
[16:28] <myhero_> how to run a script in ubuntu or terminal ?
[16:28] <meganerd> upset: try "sudo chmod 777 /media/<folder> -R
[16:29] <upset> meganerd: Trying
[16:29] <escott> myhero_, chmod +x ./path/to/script.sh; ./path/to/script.sh
[16:29] <upset> meganerd: Still read-only
[16:30] <OldOneEye> i deleted a user but his folder is still in /home ????
[16:30] <upset> meganerd: I opened nautilus with root permissions to try to change the same thing, and when I would select 'read and write files' it would reset to 'none' before I could even click 'apply permissions'
[16:30] <myhero_> escott: path is where the script is situated or the path to folder where i want run the script? also y this same path/..../script.sh command 2 times ?
[16:31] <fragske> even when you chmod the folder manually?
[16:31] <dbdii407> How do I find the location of my audio cards? Everything I find says /dev/dsp#, but that's not on my system
[16:31] <OldOneEye> i deleted a user but his folder is still in /home ????  how do i remove him
[16:31] <upset> fragske: You talking o me?
[16:31] <fragske> yes
[16:31] <llutz> upset: what filesystem are you working on? ntfs/vfat?
[16:32] <meganerd> upset: assuming the partition is /dev/sdb1, try "sudo grep sdb1 /etc/mtab"
[16:32] <upset> llutz: vfat
[16:32] <upset> meganerd: Trying
[16:32] <llutz> upset: use mount-options like umask/uid/gid for this, chmod/chown won't work
[16:32] <upset> llutz: Uuuh
[16:32] <meganerd> upset: you are looking for either ro or rw in the string that it returns
[16:32] <llutz> meganerd: no, he's not
[16:33] <RobinJ> How can I replace Metacity with Mutter, and keep the Unity integration working?
[16:33] <escott> myhero_, the first command chmod is to make the the program executable
[16:33] <meganerd> llutz: sure,  it will tell him if the drive is mounted read only or not
[16:33] <OldOneEye> i deleted a user but his folder is still in /home ????  how do i remove him
[16:33] <upset> llutz: She's not, but whatever. Wht am I not looking for ro or rw
[16:33] <llutz> meganerd: thats not the problem
[16:33] <RobinJ> OldOneEye, remove the folder
[16:34] <llutz> upset: "man mount"  you cannot use chown/chmod on non-unix filesystem like vfat/ntfs.
[16:34] <[snake]> hello.
[16:34] <genophy> hello.
[16:34] <savr> how do I move the location of where notifications show up?
[16:34] <upset> llutz: Oh. Um. Are we referring to the whole partition table, or the fat32 partition?
[16:34] <meeep> hi [snake], what seems to be the problem?
[16:35] <[snake]> It seems that I'm having  problems with ruby... and metasploit(specifically msfconsole.) on ubuntu 11.10
[16:35] <llutz> upset: i'm refering to the filesystem on the partition you try to access
[16:35] <upset> [snake] You should try.... PYTHON! HO HO HO HO
[16:35] <jrib> upset: that one goes in the quotes file
[16:35] <[snake]> upset, it's the program though I do agree with you, they should code metasploit with python maybe in the future. :P
[16:36] <upset> jrib: I'm sorry, but what are you referring to?
[16:36] <jrib> upset: I keep a quotes file where I record witty, funny, clever, and sometimes stupid things said in this channel :)
[16:36] <upset> jrib: I reaaaally hope it's not the last one
[16:37] <upset> llutz: Um, hold on
[16:37] <idefix> can you use soundKonverter in ubuntu?
[16:37] <llutz> upset: whats the mountpoint your filesystem is mounted to?
[16:37] <RobinJ> How to get Mutter working on Ubuntu?
[16:37] <[snake]> oh, i figured it out :P it needed a package called "rubygems" thanks guys.
[16:38] <upset> llutz: /media/drive
[16:38] <RobinJ> sigh
[16:38] <upset> llutz: Also the partition is fat32 as I said
[16:38] <jrib> upset: you're line 264
[16:39] <upset> jrib: That tells me nothing
[16:39] <llutz> upset: "sudo mount -o reount,umask=000,uid=1000 /emdia/drive"   will make it writable for all users
[16:39] <upset> jrib: Except that you have quite a collection
[16:39] <llutz> */media/drive   sry
[16:39] <upset> llutz: Bwuh, okay
[16:39] <llutz> upset: "sudo mount -o remount,umask=000,uid=1000 /media/drive"   too many typos, this should do now
[16:40] <upset> llutz: Trying
[16:41] <upset> llutz: Still read-only
[16:42] <llutz> upset: "mount  |grep drive"
[16:42] <upset> llutz: Trying
[16:43] <upset> llutz: What am I looking for in this printout?
[16:43] <llutz> pls paste the 1 line here upset
[16:43] <savr> how do I move the location of where notifications show up?
[16:44] <tiago> Does anybody know what time will 12.04 be released?
[16:44] <upset> llutz: /dev/sdc1 on /media/drive type vfat (rw,nosuid,nodev,uid=1000,gid=1000,shortname=mixed,dmask=0077,utf8=1,showexec,flush,umask=000,uid=1000,uhelper=udisks)
[16:44] <bazhang> tiago, no set time
[16:45] <tiago> Thanks, i'll be waiting then, ahaha
[16:45] <llutz> upset: "touch /media/drive/testfile && ls -l /media/drive/testfile"
[16:45] <upset> llutz: Trying...
[16:46] <casa> hi
[16:46] <upset> llutz: Wait, testfile? Why would such a folder exist?
[16:46] <Guest45559> hey all
[16:47] <upset> llutz: Here, output.... -rw-r--r-- 1 savannah savannah 0 2012-04-25 12:46 /media/drive/testfile
[16:47] <llutz> upset: it shouldn't exist, you try to create it for a test. "id"  does it list "uid=1000(yourusername)"?
[16:47] <llutz> upset: so you have writeaccess to the drive/filesystem
[16:47] <upset> llutz: Well, then nautilus is high cuz I can't do anything with it.
[16:48] <llutz> upset: start a new nautilus, try again
[16:48] <jrib> upset: sometimes you have to press "reload" in nautilus
[16:48] <upset> llutz: Now it says I can't even unmount it because the drive is busy
[16:49] <elijah> How do I add options to a program when I start it?
[16:49] <llutz> upset: "rm /media/drive/testfile"  why umount? close all terminals/nautilus-windows showing /media/drive
[16:49] <upset> llutz: Nevermind, was able to unmount. Checking
[16:50] <upset> llutz: I was able to delete testfile with nautilus, but I cannot copy paste a file to it.
[16:51] <llutz> upset: you're running nautilus as user "savannah"?
[16:51] <upset> llutz: Yes'm
[16:51] <idefix> kan je een 11MB attachment naar een hotmail-account sturen?
[16:51] <kacong_> hey all
[16:51] <llutz> upset: that's odd, it should work.... "id"  does it list "uid=1000(savannah)" at the beginning?
[16:52] <upset> llutz: Checking
[16:52] <upset> llutz: Yes it does
[16:53] <llutz> upset: nautilus-issue... sry can't help any further because i don't use/really know it.
[16:53] <upset> llutz: I'm going to check with marlin.
[16:54] <upset> llutz: Woooow
[16:54] <upset> llutz: Marlin is working
[16:54] <upset> llutz: I love you, marlin
[16:54] <llutz> whatever that is...
[16:55] <upset> llutz: Elementary uses it
[16:55] <upset> llutz: It's pretty nice, it just doesn't have so many cool plugins
[16:57] <kacong_> anione user backtack>?
[16:57] <bazhang> !backtrack | kacong_
[16:58] <bazhang> #backtrack-linux   kacong_
[17:02] <upset> llutz: Whelp, everything is solved
[17:02] <nitzs> !mint
[17:02] <upset> llutz: Thank you very much
[17:03] <whoever_> hey all, where do you change the domain name of a box
[17:04] <mynnx> can someone do me a favor and tell me if "apt-get -q -y install python-mysqldb=1.2.2-10build1" succeeds for any of you?  https://gist.github.com/2490610
[17:06] <Pici> mynnx: What release are you using?
[17:06] <mynnx> Pici: lucid
[17:06] <whoever_> need help changing ubuntu domain name, it thinks its domain is the box name
[17:07] <meeep> whoever_: it may seem like a silly question, but do you mean the hostname for the box, workgroup name (for connecting to MS workgroups) or an actual domain name (i.e. the machine being ubuntubox.yourdomain.com)?
[17:07] <meeep> If you're wanting to change the hostname (ie. the identifying name for that machine on networks) - http://www.omgubuntu.co.uk/2012/01/how-to-change-hostname-in-ubuntu-11-10/ will help
[17:08] <meeep> domain names generally aren't tagged to machines unless they're set up in a specific way for a LAN
[17:08] <Pici> mynnx: I have it installed on my lucid server just fine.
[17:09] <mynnx> Pici: strange.  I've done some more digging, and mysql-common (a dependency of a dependency of python-MySQLdb) wants to uninstall Percona when I install it
[17:09] <mynnx> maybe that's why it's just failing to grab dependecies
[17:10] <Pici> mynnx: Try it with --no-install-recommends
[17:11] <mynnx> Pici: no dice.
[17:12] <comm> I've added a ppa that has one package I require. I want to pin all the packages from the ppa to 450 and, then pin the squid3 package to 500. Doesn't seem to be working, is it even possible to do that?
[17:12] <cgtdk> What is the current state of Intel graphics drivers for Linux (free/proprietary)?
[17:12] <dr_jesus> cgtdk: If you install them you can browse the web
[17:14] <cgtdk> dr_jesus: What?
[17:14] <L3top> cgtdk: xserver-xorg-video-intel and libva-driver-i965 for accelleration. For precise it is i965-va-driver
[17:15] <L3top> Unless the chipset is an i128 or i740...
[17:15] <ubuntu__> siema
[17:18] <cgtdk> L3top: I see. But how good are the drivers?
[17:18] <hariom> How to increase parallel data fetch capacity. For example in windows I guess default is 5 processes can fetch in parallel. Sixth will have to wait for any one of the pervious 5 to finish. Is it same in Ubuntu?
[17:18] <Pici> mynnx: I think I found the issue.
[17:20] <Pici> mynnx: Which percona repo do you have enabled?
[17:21] <Pici> hariom: fetch data from where?
[17:21] <mynnx> Pici: it's an internal one; we built debs
[17:24] <hariom> Pici: from the internet. Like fetching images from a site or fetching pdfs from hundreads of pdf links on some site on the internet
[17:24] <Pici> mynnx: Ahh.  I've been looking at http://repo.percona.com/apt/dists/lucid/main/binary-i386/Packages and it looks like the versions there should JustWork™ and seamlessly replace the versions in Lucid.  A mix of packages from lucid main and the percona repo would create issues.
[17:24] <tasslehoff> Will any of the Ubuntu installers let me unlock and install to an already encrypted LVM volume?
[17:24] <NeoDestruction> Hello i want to know how to recover lost data (ie: pic, music, doc) because i originally wanted to have windows and ubuntu run side by side but it seems to have deleted my windows os :/ help!!!
[17:26] <mynnx> Pici: can you elaborate?  I'm not sure I understand what you're saying
[17:26] <whoever_> what file contains the domain that ubuntu thinks its part of
[17:27] <dr_jesus> whoever_: /etc/samba/smb.conf?
[17:28] <whoever_> dr_jesus: it says workgroup but when i try to acces it i i get a login prompt, that says domain <computer name >
[17:29] <intrader> All, successfully repaired boot problem (would not boot to Windows XP) by using program testdisk. NOw I can choose to botot linux of Windows XP. THanks
[17:29] <dr_jesus> whoever_: that's normal
[17:29] <Pici> mynnx: You said that mysql-common was a dependency of something that python-mysqldb depended on.  I assume you meant libmysqlclient16.  libmysqlclient16 in lucid depends on mysql-common (>= 5.1.41-3ubuntu12) which we know we can't install because it will want to remove percona.  The libmysqlclient16 package distributed on percona's lucid repo only depends on libc6 and zlibg1.
[17:29] <DropsOfSerenity> does rythmbox support cue sheets yet? I'm wondering.
[17:30] <MEridith4> now many hours to release ? i cant wait :)
[17:30] <bazhang> MEridith4, no set time
[17:30] <Pici> hariom: There shouldn't be any such limit, at least not on the Ubuntu side.
[17:31] <MEridith4> so after mdnight in europ or usa ?
[17:31] <OldOneEye> looking for someone to co admin my box /msg me if interested
[17:31] <Buduk> when support for a release stops, are the repositories still available with their last updated packages available. e.g if i install a no longer supported release can i still update it to the date it stopped being supported?
[17:31] <bazhang> !party | MEridith4
[17:32] <Pici> Buduk: Yes. For a little bit of time the archives will be available on the main mirrors, and then they'll be moved to http://old-releases.ubuntu.com
[17:32] <bazhang> !eolupgrades | Buduk
[17:32] <bazhang> whoopsie
[17:32] <Pici> bazhang: Heh, I was going to give Buduk a the second link there anyway.
[17:32] <intrader> I have a deja backup made in 10.10 - Is it advisable to restore the entire /home folder to 11.10?
[17:32] <bazhang> Pici, ok
[17:33] <Buduk> lol cheers, so if i change the sources list to old-releases..... it will still be ok for even longer ?
[17:34] <Pici> Buduk: Technically. But you won't get any updates, even if they are for security purposes.
[17:34] <hariom> How many parallel fetch is considered safe or gives good performance on a server with single processor with Gigabit Ethernet card
[17:34] <Buduk> understood. thanks :)
[17:35] <MrUnagi> is the only way you can have ubuntu perform NAT is with two nic cards?
[17:36] <nitzs> MrUnagi: what is it taht you want to do?
[17:37] <tim167> hello, I notice that the package lineakd is not available in Ubuntu 12, is there an alternative for automating keystrokes (xsendkeycode...) ? thanks
[17:37] <MrUnagi> nitzs: turn a ubuntu box into a router/firewall
[17:39] <bli> how can i download streams from websites?
[17:40] <krababbel> MrUnagi: do you have a switch? You could use a trunk link I guess
[17:40] <Pici> hariom: No idea.  I'm not sure if this channel would even be a good place to ask. ##networking perhaps?
[17:40] <mynnx> Pici: thanks, sir!  I hadn't considered multiple versions of libmysqlclient16; I managed to get mysqldb installed after doing "sudo apt-get install libmysqlclient16=5.1.61-rel13.2-431.lucid"
[17:41] <bli> how do i download streams from websites?
[17:42] <nitzs> MrUnagi: if you want to use it as a router, then you'll certainly need two different NICs, for incoming and outgooing traffic.
[17:42] <krababbel> can't those be seperated by vlans?
[17:45] <oCean> !info streamripper | bli
[17:46] <dk> hi all
[17:47] <meeep> How can we help, dk?
[17:48] <dk> meep:no thanks..:)
[17:48] <marianom> Guys, how do I change the default terminator in OO/PP? (I don't see the Preferred Applications as I used)
[17:48] <marianom> sorry, the default terminal :)
[17:49] <meeep> dk: This is a support channel...
[17:50] <dk> meep:alright it's my first time...just watchin and having fun...
[17:50] <sideways86> is anyone able to lend a hand with alsa/audio problems?
[17:51] <sideways86> i'm getting no audio output and aplay -l isn't giving coherent output
[17:52] <sideways86> just barfs a bunch of 'default is not a compound' and 'invalid argument'
[17:52] <bakarat> i'm running "ddrescue" on a 500gb file and it's been going for a little over an hour. however the rescued size is 0, the errsize is 0 and the error count is 1, is this normal or does this mean the drive is basically 1 big error?
[17:52] <exaem> !ask | sideways86
[17:52] <[snake]> !linus
[17:52] <[snake]> :(
[17:52] <Pici> !brain | [snake]
[17:53] <intrader> I have a deja backup made in 10.10 - Is it advisable to restore the entire /home folder to 11.10?
[17:54] <[snake]> Thanks Pici
[17:54] <Pici> intrader: I'm not sure what you'er asking.  Do you want to know if there will be any problems if you restore /home/ from a 10.10 install onto a 11.10 install?
[17:58] <pepee> hi. is there a list of binaries included by default in *ubuntu?
[17:58] <sarnobroken> !c
[17:58] <escott> pepee, it depends on what cd you use
[17:58] <Younder> The 64 bit LTS.. When?
[17:58] <vemens> hello \o
[17:58] <pepee> escott, ahh k
[17:59] <pepee> Younder, /topic
[17:59] <Younder> pepee, new LTS due today
[17:59] <nishttal2> can someone suggest a messenger client for Ubuntu.. empathy doesnt let me "untab conversations" by default
[18:00] <meeep> nishttal2: I swear my Pidgin, but depends what you want
[18:00] <sarnobroken> test
[18:00] <escott> Younder, tomorrow (could be today for you depending upon timezones), but officially tomorrow
[18:00] <ProfessorBacon> nishttal2: pidgin
[18:00] <ProfessorBacon> with OTR plugin!
[18:00] <nishttal2> meeep, ProfessorBacon ok will install now
[18:00] <nishttal2> ProfessorBacon, what OTR for?
[18:00] <Younder> escott, thx
[18:00] <meeep> ProfessorBacon: seconded! Didn't think OTR was something general people used, but I find it vital <3
[18:00] <ProfessorBacon> encrypted conversations
[18:01] <taxdav87> ciao
[18:01] <taxdav87> !list
[18:01] <meeep> nishttal2: If you care about whether or not people can view your conversation as they travel the networks, get OTR and start encrypting your chats. Great tool, open and secure ^_^
[18:01] <nishttal2> meeep, ok..
[18:02] <nishttal2> meeep, ProfessorBacon now is there a way to completely remove empathy.. seems tightly intertvined with Ubuntu
[18:02] <meeep> nishttal2: the summary at the top of http://www.cypherpunks.ca/otr/ may be of interest
[18:02] <meeep> Personally I've never removed Empathy or Evolution, even though I use neither (preferring Pidgin and Thunderbird/Icedove)
[18:05] <robertzaccour> How do I install a downloaded font? Its a zip file.
[18:05] <ActionParsnip> !font
[18:06] <ajf|offline> Hey
[18:07] <ajf|offline> if I get the 12.04 beta, can I then upgrade to final release?
[18:07] <ajf|offline> when it's out.
[18:07] <intrader> I am using deja on 11.10 trying to restore fully as described by help. I choose Backup locaion: 'Backup', leave Folder empty, click on Forward, choose the latest date, Restore files to original locations, ----> it does not seem to do anything
[18:07] <nishttal2> meep, ProfessorBacon so if i installed OTR.. is it turned ON by default?
[18:07] <bazhang> !final | ajf
[18:07] <ActionParsnip> ajf: yes, please keep Precise questions in #ubuntu+1
[18:07] <ajf> ok.
[18:08] <ajf> I doubt I'll have any further questions just now. Thanks :)
[18:08] <kac_> try
[18:08] <ActionParsnip> ajf: and please don't change your nick when you offline etc.
[18:09] <ajf> oh yeah
[18:09] <ajf> there's /away for that isn't there
[18:09] <ActionParsnip> Afj:exactly :-) Thanks for being cool
[18:10] <nishttal2> is there a way to specify multiple DNS servers in network settings..
[18:10] <ajf> nishttal2: yeah
[18:10] <ajf> add them with spaces, like:
[18:10] <intrader> The deja restore seems to do nothing except ask for Encryption password (which I did not use when I made the backup).
[18:10] <ajf> 8.8.8.8 8.8.4.4
[18:10] <meeep> nishttal2: no, but you can enable it in preferences. If you go down that route, I'd encourage you to get others to adopt OTR as well, encrypt at both ends
[18:11] <nishttal2> ajf, thats awesome.. now how does it work.. if the first one fails to resolve a domain name then it would try the second OR only if the first server is down it will try the second
[18:11] <ajf> I don't know
[18:11] <ajf> presumably only if first is down
[18:12] <GG111> how can I set the mail icon in unity to interact with evolution rather then with thunderbird, evolution is set as my default client
[18:12] <savr> how do I move the location of where notifications show up?
[18:12] <n3ur0tix> silly question, this has been bugging me for far too long.... how can I get 'Desktop' back in the 'Places' section of the nautilus sidebar.  It's completely counter-intuitive to have to access home then click into Desktop from there.  My google-fu is kicking up zilch
[18:12] <ajf> n3ur0tix: have you tried drag-and-drop?
[18:12] <ActionParsnip> If the first doesnt know or fails to reply, 2nd is used
[18:12] <n3ur0tix> Even adding a bookmark doesn't work
[18:12]  * rymate1234 is excited!
[18:12] <rymate1234> http://www.slashgear.com/valve-talks-steam-client-for-linux-25224604/
[18:12] <n3ur0tix> ajf, yeah
[18:12] <n3ur0tix> nadda
[18:12] <ajf> ah well. guess it isn't as intuitive as how windows does it then
[18:13] <n3ur0tix> ajf you used to be able to drag+drop
[18:13] <n3ur0tix> but gnome are making it easier to use </sarcasm>
[18:13] <ActionParsnip> n3ur0tix: open desktop folder in nautilus then add it as a bookmark
[18:13] <n3ur0tix> ActionParsnip, hey dude... nope, doesn't work
[18:13] <n3ur0tix> 11.10 BTW
[18:14] <ajf> GNOME 3.0 and Unity have been hugely popular upgrades ;)
[18:14] <n3ur0tix> ActionParsnip, that works for other folders.. just not desktop
[18:14] <ActionParsnip> n3ur0tix: is this in gnome-shell or unit
[18:14] <n3ur0tix> gnome-shell
[18:14] <nishttal2> ActionParsnip, thats great.. so the first doesnt have to be down/unreachable for the 2nd to take effect.. thats awesome!
[18:16] <n3ur0tix> I've not tested this behaviour in Unity, but if the shell can affect the actual file browser used, then something is afoot!
[18:16] <ActionParsnip> nishttal2: i always install and configure dnsmasq on sysystems and use 127.0.0.1 as first DNS
[18:16] <GG111> how can I set the mail icon in unity to interact with evolution rather then with thunderbird, evolution is set as my default client .
[18:17] <ActionParsnip> n3ur0tix: could report a bug. Could ask in #gnome too
[18:17] <n3ur0tix> GG111, evolution mail indicator? possibly...
[18:17] <intrader> The deja restore seems to do nothing except ask for Encryption password (which I did not use when I made the backup).
[18:18] <ActionParsnip> GG111: did you uninstall thunderbird? Do you use thunderbird?
[18:18] <n3ur0tix> ActionParsnip, thought this might be a 11.10 specific bug (at least... I was hoping that would be the case!)
[18:18] <astro7> just installed 12.04, how do i disable the window screen edge snap feature? where the windows resize if you drag them to the side or top of screen.....
[18:18] <GG111> I did uninstall it
[18:18] <rymate1234> astro7, #ubuntu+1
[18:18] <GG111> (thunderbird)
[18:18] <ActionParsnip> GG111: any remnant packages for it?
[18:19] <GG111> ActionParsnip: I used apt-get purge
[18:19] <robertzaccour> I can't scroll up now but whoever it was that gave me the link for installing fonts thanks very much.
[18:19] <GG111> ActionParsnip: also, in 11.04 is worked alongside thunerbird installes. I'm on 11.10 now
[18:20] <ActionParsnip> robertzaccour: np dude :-) thanks for the gratitude
[18:20] <aboudreault> Guys, getting issues with an Dell XPS 15z... trying to install ubuntu and getting a black screen
[18:20] <ActionParsnip> Astro7: i can advise in +1
[18:20] <aboudreault> the cpu seems to work though..
[18:21] <awisepilot> A brand new fresh install of Ubuntu 11.10 will not boot for the first time because of: udevd timeout killing /sbin/modprobe -bv pci Help
[18:21] <fidel_> aboudreault: you might need to modifyyour boot paramters
[18:21] <ActionParsnip> aboudreault: what video chip do you use?
[18:21] <aboudreault> ActionParsnip, a fucking bad nvidia optimus
[18:21] <fidel_> i dont remember if its the noacpi switch i needed to use on that box
[18:22] <aboudreault> how can I back to intel driver
[18:22] <awisepilot> I am using a Dell 1950
[18:22] <GG111> no takes on the email Icon ?
[18:22] <ActionParsnip> aboudreault: try nouveau.blacklist=1   optimus is a pain in Linux
[18:22] <ConfusedStudent> Anyone here know how to make a 16bit bmp instead of a 24bit bmp in gimp, or with another tool?
[18:22] <Arlee> Good day, everyone.
[18:22] <Tm_T> aboudreault: please watch your language
[18:23] <aboudreault> bah... that's just true
[18:23] <[snake]> is it possible to download kernel 3.3.3 and install it on ubuntu?
[18:23] <aboudreault> I really hate nvidia now
[18:23] <aboudreault> :P
[18:23] <ActionParsnip> ConfusedStudent: is it not an option when you make a new image?
[18:23] <fidel_> aboudreault: i am using acpi=noirq in case you stuck at that early boot-stage
[18:23] <[snake]> aboudreault, I'm using version-current... and it works great, so I recommend that driver.
[18:23] <fidel_> on the xps 15z
[18:24] <Arlee> Guys. I formated my Pen-Drive as an extended-logical partition. Is there any problem? Is it better like that?
[18:24] <ConfusedStudent> ActionParsnip: it is not
[18:24] <aboudreault> fidel_, getting the loging screen now with noacpi
[18:24] <aboudreault> [snake], you mean with optimus ??
[18:24] <ActionParsnip> aboudreault: there is a project called ironhide to attempt to support it
[18:24] <DanneStrat> Arlee: Doesn't matter really
[18:24] <fidel_> aboudreault: i guess the last switch mentioned should be enough - so: acpi=noirq
[18:25] <aboudreault> ok will try that
[18:25] <awisepilot> Has anyone had the problem with the first time boot on Dell 1950 server using Ubuntu 11.10.  The system keeps hanging with a udev timeout
[18:25] <fidel_> aboudreault: later consider checking bumblebee
[18:25] <aboudreault> but the key pad doesn't work :(((
[18:25] <[snake]> aboudreault, idk actually.... sorry I shouldn't have said anything as I'm not really fully aware of you situation(I just got back).
[18:25] <fidel_> aboudreault: ? keypad?
[18:25] <Arlee> Thank you, DanneStrat.
[18:25] <aboudreault> or the screen is just completly freezed... yeah
[18:25] <awisepilot> ;(
[18:25] <DanneStrat> Arlee: You're welcome :)
[18:26] <awisepilot> Anyone???
[18:27] <[snake]> awisepilot, I'm sorry I do not have that computer, nor have I ever encountered such problems.
[18:27] <aboudreault> fidel_, cool, things seem to work with acpi=noirq
[18:27] <ActionParsnip> awisepilot: did you MD5 test the ISO you downloaded? Did you burn as slowly as possible? As its a server I'd advise you install Precise as it is LTS (5 year support)
[18:27] <awisepilot> It appears to be a problem on several computes
[18:27] <awisepilot> It appears to be a problem on several computers
[18:28] <awisepilot> some type of Kernal bug
[18:28] <fidel_> aboudreault: yep everything should work - in caseyou dont need the nv card - consider fullydisabling it - saves energy. good luck & hf with the device ;)
[18:28] <aboudreault> fidel_, thanks
[18:28] <Flurick> :q
[18:28] <Flurick> lol
[18:29] <awisepilot> Am I on the right IRC Server to be asking about why Ubuntu 11.10 fails to boot after a fresh install?
[18:29] <sarnobroken> hello
[18:30] <DanneStrat> awisepilot: Yes
[18:30] <awisepilot> someone has to have had a problem with udev timeouts
[18:30] <ActionParsnip> awisepilot: your question is on topic and is welcomed. Can you answer my questions please
[18:31] <[snake]> Is college really free in Finland??
[18:31] <jpds> !ot | [snake]
[18:31] <user1> hi, is ubuntu 12.04 LTS released or not ???
[18:32] <fidel_> user1: not yet
[18:32] <boobie> /help
[18:32] <ActionParsnip> User1: v. Soon
[18:32] <user1> fidel - i think on 26th of this right
[18:34] <Pici> !outyet
[18:34] <throwaway_rq> user1: not yet as of now
[18:34] <ajf> >26th
[18:34] <ajf> lol
[18:34] <throwaway_rq> !date
[18:34] <throwaway_rq> no one has a tag
[18:34] <ajf> Heck, Google Drive came out quicker
[18:35] <throwaway_rq> 02:35:00 26/04/2012 GMT+8
[18:35] <Pici> throwaway_rq: There is no set time for the release.
[18:35] <throwaway_rq> Pici: understandable
[18:35] <throwaway_rq> Pici: perhaps i shall grab the beta and just aptitude update it once it's released?
[18:36] <ajf> yeah
[18:36] <ajf> it will update to full ver
[18:36] <ajf> I'm doing that too :D
[18:36] <throwaway_rq> lovely
[18:36]  * throwaway_rq turns on vm
[18:36] <Pici> throwaway_rq: Up to you, many technically inclined users choose to do that.
[18:36] <Artemis3> Pici, not worth it, wait a few hours
[18:36] <ConfusedStudent> ActionParsnip: I am running:You are using Ubuntu 10.04 LTS
[18:36] <ConfusedStudent>                 - the Lucid Lynx - released in April 2010 and supported until April 2013.
[18:36] <throwaway_rq> imo still not a big fan of the new UI
[18:37] <throwaway_rq> luckily there's gnome fallback session
[18:37] <bkovacs> Any time frame for Ubuntu 12.04 release?.
[18:37] <InferiorHumanOrg> yea I just tried to use unity again yesterday ( I lasted about 5 minutes ) :\
[18:37] <Artemis3> throwaway_rq, then i suggest you try Xubuntu
[18:37] <throwaway_rq> Artemis3: im actually doing Lubuntu
[18:37] <InferiorHumanOrg> fluxbox is really nice too I think. and super light on resources. like ~300MB ram for gui
[18:38] <throwaway_rq> although not as equipped as gnome and it still has some flaws, i can live with it at the moment
[18:38] <anth0ny> I've install Ubuntu on a server machine and it seems to be running really slowly. Are there any good command-line diagnostic tools that would help me identify what's slow and why?
[18:38] <throwaway_rq> resource wise im not too worried
[18:38]  * throwaway_rq - Windows Vista has been running 5hrs 34mins 15secs Memory Usage: 0/4095MB (429496729600.00%) Processor: 4-Intel(R) Core(TM)2 Quad CPU Q9550 @ 2.83GHz, 2889MHz, 6144KB
[18:38] <throwaway_rq> (16GB ram)
[18:38] <InferiorHumanOrg> anth0ny: can you define slow ? and whats your hardware ?
[18:38] <throwaway_rq> and it's win7
[18:39] <InferiorHumanOrg> throwaway_rq: so you are running ubuntu in a VM ?
[18:39] <Artemis3> throwaway_rq, well i havent missed anything in XFCE, LXDE seems more basic tho.
[18:39] <throwaway_rq> InferiorHumanOrg: for the moment yes, i still game on win7, so i can't always run full *nix
[18:40] <throwaway_rq> Artemis3: can't set proxy on it unless u script it like chromium
[18:40] <InferiorHumanOrg> throwaway_rq: haha I see, thats what I have my 360 for ( only windows machine I actually ever liked ) :-)
[18:40] <throwaway_rq> InferiorHumanOrg: haha. agreed.
[18:40] <anth0ny> InferiorHumanOrg, Well, the GUI is really choppy, takes a few seconds to log a user in.  I'm not really sure of the hardware, it's a server that was lying around at my job.  It's kind of one of the things that I hoped a good diagnostic tool might be able to shed some light on
[18:40] <throwaway_rq> and tbh i got too good gaming hardware on this baby i dont wanna give it up for linux all the way yet
[18:41] <throwaway_rq> 2x 7990s
[18:41] <InferiorHumanOrg> anth0ny: oh so you are running a server with a gui...
[18:41] <throwaway_rq> now now
[18:41] <anth0ny> InferiorHumanOrg, yeah, is that just totally wrong?
[18:41] <throwaway_rq> server + gui isn't always a BAD thing
[18:41] <throwaway_rq> logging in as root in a server+gui setup IS a bad thing
[18:41] <InferiorHumanOrg> anth0ny: well if I knew what hardware I could see if it was slow or not.
[18:42] <InferiorHumanOrg> and why do you NEED a gui on a server just curious
[18:42] <geekbri> Ive got the most important question of the day.  Where do I get some free ubuntu stickers from.
[18:42] <meeep> I wouldn't risk a gui on a *nix server if it wasn't necessary
[18:42] <meeep> geekbri: where  do you live?
[18:42] <geekbri> meganerd: boston
[18:42] <anth0ny> InferiorHumanOrg, well, we do most of our work with SSH so the GUI isn't really needed but it's nice to have when we use our screen on our rack
[18:42] <InferiorHumanOrg> now technically the machine im on is a *server* since I have a printer/file sharing setup using samba. and it also runs ssh ( but it has a gui since it's my main computer ) so no you can do whatever you want.
[18:43] <cjs226> i have a server that seems to be operating fine, has a minimal load average (0.10, 0.16, 0.22), low CPU, has ~52MB RAM free but is using 1.5GB of swap (out of 5GB).  why is it swapping so much when it has freem RAM?  should this be a concern?
[18:43] <meeep> geekbri: try https://www.system76.com/community/stickers/ -- although most places don't do free stickers, as the cost of producing, stocking and shipping them becomes defeatist.
[18:43] <Artemis3> throwaway_rq, http://ubuntuforums.org/showpost.php?p=1262323&postcount=7
[18:43] <geekbri> A shame really, everybody loves free stickers.
[18:43] <throwaway_rq> indeed
[18:44] <throwaway_rq> whats that movie about throwing down two boxes of "im stupid" stickers
[18:44] <Pici> !offtopic
[18:44] <InferiorHumanOrg> throwaway_rq: I was gonna build a $1500 gaming machine with nvidia 680's but I decided to just wait for xbox 720 in 2013 since im happy with my 360 and im sure it will be cheaper. Now back on topic for me :-P
[18:44] <meeep> geekbri: they are quire reasonable from http://shop.canonical.com/product_info.php?products_id=718 - can also find some on eBay. If you check for local Free Software or Ubuntu / Linux User Groups in your area, they can sometimes have free stickers for you.
[18:44] <throwaway_rq> InferiorHumanOrg: problem is, i can't do fps right on a console, unless u give me a mouse and keyboard
[18:44] <zackiv31> is there a download script to download the LTS torrent when it is ready?
[18:44] <meeep> geekbri: Also, if you're in Boston and pop by the FSF office (www.fsf.org) they may be able to help you out with some free-software-related (but not Ubuntu) stickers
[18:45] <anth0ny> InferiorHumanOrg, my hardware via "lshw -short": http://paste.pound-python.org/show/20051/
[18:45] <InferiorHumanOrg> throwaway_rq: I see im the exact opposite I like it better with a controller, using mouse+kb to game gives me cramped wrists pretty quickly.
[18:45] <geekbri> meeep: but what if RMS berates me for my iphone! :'(
[18:45] <throwaway_rq> InferiorHumanOrg: some games i do agree that conrollers are much better, but for the games i play (mostly fps) mouse just gives me a lot more agility
[18:45] <InferiorHumanOrg> anth0ny: yea that looks like a decent machine. what gui are you using? whats the load average at ?
[18:46] <InferiorHumanOrg> is a slow login the only symptom ?
[18:46] <throwaway_rq> anyway back to topic, yeah so im using a vm and im loving it - though, unity on vmware sucks big time with the new ubuntu interface
[18:46] <meeep> geekbri: ah, you know of rms! well, hide your iBone, iBad, any iDevice you have, and don't mention Ubuntu. Tell him you run Trisquel, free of binary blobs :P
[18:46] <meeep> throwaway_rq: what's your hardware?
[18:47] <InferiorHumanOrg> unity is a resource hog. not trying to bash it for those that like it, it's just a fact.
[18:47] <throwaway_rq> meeep: Q9550, 16GB DDR3, 2x 7990, 2x 120GB HyperX SSDs, etc
[18:47] <geekbri> meeep: hehe, understood!
[18:48] <fatih> hi
[18:48] <InferiorHumanOrg> throwaway_rq: q9550 thats like the king of core 2 duo right?
[18:48] <throwaway_rq> I'm content with my hardware for the next 2 years at least
[18:48] <throwaway_rq> InferiorHumanOrg: QX9650
[18:48] <InferiorHumanOrg> ah
[18:48] <throwaway_rq> that thing fries all my panties at home
[18:48] <InferiorHumanOrg> the king of intel is always like $500 more than one step down
[18:48] <meeep> throwaway_rq: unity will cope ok then ;)
[18:48] <meeep> just
[18:48] <InferiorHumanOrg> they make you pay for the #1
[18:49] <throwaway_rq> InferiorHumanOrg: yes
[18:49] <kapz> hi, it's 26th already, where are the 12.04 stable images?
[18:49] <anth0ny> InferiorHumanOrg, the machine is super clean, just installed Ubuntu 11.04, so login is just about all I've done.  how do I find load-average via terminal?
[18:49] <throwaway_rq> meeep: it's not the performance, it's the stupid min-max-close buttons that disappeared when u fullscreen an app
[18:49] <Basstard`> Where's the releaseparty?
[18:49] <xangua> !isitout | kapz
[18:49] <InferiorHumanOrg> I waited for ivybridge to come out and it's not much better than sandy bridge and it runs hotter so I decided to wait till the next release.
[18:49] <InferiorHumanOrg> im happy with my i3 oc to 4.2ghz
[18:49] <deadmund> anth0ny: uptime
[18:49] <throwaway_rq> freaking annoyed by it
[18:49] <InferiorHumanOrg> or htop
[18:49] <steve-o_> I have a machine that won't boot...the system BIOS was complaining about "no boot device found" but if I manually selected the hard drive, it would boot. I did a boot-repair from a live cd and not when I celect the drive manually I get "missing operating system"--anybody have any ideas?  http://paste.ubuntu.com/946105/
[18:49] <throwaway_rq> InferiorHumanOrg: not bad
[18:50] <throwaway_rq> steve-o_: most likely it's the bios settings, not set to the right drive
[18:50] <anth0ny> uptime: 11:50:06 up 6 days,  2:09,  1 user,  load average: 0.00, 0.03, 0.05
[18:50] <InferiorHumanOrg> throwaway_rq: i3 550 3.2ghz oc to 4.2 ( non stock cooler ) runs very cool too. 4gb ram. 40gb intel ssd. just a $600 build from a few years ago ;-)
[18:50] <throwaway_rq> not bad at all
[18:50] <anth0ny> looks like the computer may not necessarily be "slow"?  maybe it just has a weak graphics card?
[18:51] <InferiorHumanOrg> nvidia gt... 430 was only like $60 bux and I figured for non-gaming 1gb was plenty
[18:51] <anth0ny> (being that it's a server in the first place)
[18:51] <meeep> throwaway_rq: steve-o_ has checked the BIOS, boot device order seems fine. steve-o_, as I've said, might be worth checking physically the master/slave config on that bus
[18:51] <throwaway_rq> i screwed up my 6970 a year ago with my leaking waterblock, so i rebuilt this thing
[18:51] <throwaway_rq> steve-o_: it's an IDE drive?
[18:51] <InferiorHumanOrg> haha I haven't had a top of the line video card in forever.
[18:51] <throwaway_rq> InferiorHumanOrg: i kinda kick myself sometimes cuz i dont even play 3d games as much as i did 10 yeras go
[18:52] <InferiorHumanOrg> idk what card the 360 has it but it works fine for me and looks great. so I figure why spend $500 on a video card I won't use
[18:52] <throwaway_rq> i was happy with an ati card that does directdraw with quake2 @ 320x240
[18:52] <steve-o_> meeep throwaway_rq it's a brand new sata drive
[18:52] <awisepilot> Actionparsnip - I did not MD5 test the download.
[18:52] <meeep> Ah
[18:52] <throwaway_rq> steve-o_" then there should not be a setting for master/slave
[18:52] <throwaway_rq> unless you emulate IDE
[18:52] <awisepilot> sorry step away for a few minutes
[18:52] <Artemis3> InferiorHumanOrg, there are very good price perfomance options such as 560, i would bother with more, not even sli.
[18:52] <meeep> throwaway_rq: my bad, didn't realise it was SATA
[18:52] <InferiorHumanOrg> are you running in ahci mode steve-o ? you set it in bios
[18:52] <throwaway_rq> meeep: np mate ;)
[18:53] <throwaway_rq> may i ask which mobo u got steve-o_
[18:53] <InferiorHumanOrg> Artemis3: nvidia 560 you mean ?
[18:53] <Fishscene> !isitout > Fishscene
[18:53] <bobbyaldol> i coudnt figure out why i cannot install the driver for my ATI card
[18:53] <InferiorHumanOrg> yea Im not that familiar with todays video cards just that the 680 is king and the amd 7850 is supposed to be a really good card too that is alot cheaper.
[18:54] <intrader> The deja restore seems to do nothing except ask for Encryption password (which I did not use when I made the backup).
[18:54] <throwaway_rq> i got my pair of 7990s thru my vendor deal with AMD when i was still a product manager
[18:54] <nishttal2> ActionParsnip, the 2 dns solution is not working as expected
[18:54] <throwaway_rq> half priced ;)
[18:54] <steve-o_> throwaway_rq: It's an Intel with a G620 proc...series 6 chipset. Forget exactly what model but I wanna say DG61
[18:54] <gabel> hi, is there a way how to use ati hybrid graphic in ubuntu 32 bit? i searched web, but no success with "restricted" drivers or with drivers from amd website...
[18:54] <Artemis3> throwaway_rq, are you affected by the 295.40 driver issue? i beliefe those gpus are :(
[18:55] <throwaway_rq> Artemis3: yes it does, it hangs my unit once in a while
[18:55] <throwaway_rq> nglx gives me issues
[18:55] <throwaway_rq> Artemis3: i do suggest you install the drivers manually from the official site, it fixed my issue
[18:55] <gabel> default open drivers turn my notebook into a grill
[18:56] <InferiorHumanOrg> gabel: lol
[18:56] <throwaway_rq> lol
[18:56] <Artemis3> throwaway_rq, need to wait for nvidia fix...
[18:56] <gabel> no lol :)
[18:56] <throwaway_rq> gabel: i hear ya. it burns up my XPS 1340 like a grill as well
[18:56] <emkay443> Does someone know how much of an improvement Ubuntu 12.04 is compared to 11.10,  performancewise?
[18:56] <awisepilot> Is anybody able to assist with a problem with a fresh install on Ubuntu 11.10 64AMD Server.  It fails on boot with a udev timeout, the freeze on bnx2 issue.
[18:56] <blawiz> anyone else experiencing that eog start behind other windows? (im actually on debian)
[18:56] <InferiorHumanOrg> emkay443: I haven't noticed much of a difference between the two my self....
[18:56] <uragand2> hi
[18:57] <Artemis3> blawiz, join #debian
[18:57] <Menno> EOG?
[18:57] <gabel> seriously, is here anybody who can help me? i would like to switch to intel graphics but how...
[18:57] <Lint> eye of gnome?
[18:57] <awisepilot> Is anybody able to assist with a problem with a fresh install on Ubuntu 11.10 64AMD Server.  It fails on boot with a udev timeout, then freeze on bnx2 issue.
[18:58] <throwaway_rq> oh yes i remember what i came here for.  i've recently installed oneirc on my laptop, and none of the updated kernel boots up properl. it only worked wiht default 3.0.0.12-generic or PAE. others just gives me KP with caps lock button flashing
[18:58] <InferiorHumanOrg> gabel: you want to use the onboard intel card?
[18:58] <acicula> gabel: hybrid graphics as in a discrete amd gpu with intel igp?
[18:58] <throwaway_rq> any advice?
[18:58] <acicula> awisepilot: bnx2 issue?
[18:59] <gabel> InferiorHumanOrg,  and acicula yes. i want to use intel gpu instead of ati card...  but i cant disable ati in bios... and official drivers are not working
[18:59] <awisepilot> acicula it appears to have to do with udevd timeout killing /sbin/modprobe -bv pci
[19:00] <InferiorHumanOrg> gabel: hrm. sorry not sure how to do that
[19:00] <dr_jesus> gabel: what kind of computer is it
[19:00] <awisepilot> acicula: it appears to have to do with udevd timeout killing /sbin/modprobe -bv pci
[19:00] <Fishscene> gabel: Do you want to disable discreet graphics altogether?
[19:00] <gabel> dr_jesus, hp pavilion dv3 with hybrid ati 5470
[19:01] <gabel> i want to turn off ati completly... i dont need that card in linux :)
[19:01] <[snake]> lol, how do I python.
[19:01] <acicula> awisepilot: does the livecd boot?
[19:01] <ThibG> hi, I've created an ubuntu SSO account and logged in to wiki.ubuntu.com, but I can't edit anything (even WikiSandBox). Am I missing something?
[19:01] <InferiorHumanOrg> [snake]: python is a programming language I believe.
[19:02] <awisepilot> acicula: I installed it from a virtual ISO off another machine.  I guess I can boot from that CD
[19:02] <InferiorHumanOrg> awisepilot: did you check the md5 of your downloaded ISO
[19:02] <throwaway_rq> anyone using unity on gnome3?
[19:02] <robertzaccour> Is it ok to delete a zip file after the font is installed?
[19:02] <throwaway_rq> anyone using unity on gnome3? (with vmware)
[19:02] <[snake]> InferiorHumanOrg, indeed... it seems I've forgotten how to use it. except for a simple fibbonacci sequence.
[19:02] <awisepilot> No, what would that have to do with it?
[19:02] <jpds> throwaway_rq: Unity and GNOME 3 are two different things.
[19:03] <throwaway_rq> jpds: i mean together
[19:03] <acicula> awisepilot: odd, im guessing the modprobe failing is what causes the udev errors, but i have no idea why it would be failing on boot
[19:03] <ubuntu__> Hello
[19:03] <jpds> throwaway_rq: So, two different things → no.
[19:03] <throwaway_rq> gnome3 interface, unity in vm. it screws up all my max-min-close bars
[19:03] <InferiorHumanOrg> [snake]: well I guess you'd need to go look up some tutorials on google then or maybe there is a python channel ?
[19:03] <intrader> Are there problems with the deja backup/restore?. On 11.10, restore seems to do nothing except ask for Encryption password (which I did not use when I made the backup).
[19:03] <throwaway_rq> i never said they are two similar things, i mean they work together
[19:03] <meganerd> gabel: IIRC you need the proprietary drivers to support this
[19:03] <awisepilot> hmm
[19:04] <[snake]> InferiorHumanOrg, there is.... thanks!
[19:04] <ubuntu__> Sorry, can I ask you some questions?
[19:04] <gabel> meganerd, ah... i downloaded driver from amd website.. installed and then - hw acceleration was gone....
[19:06] <meganerd> gabel: I do not have any experience with this combo, though I remember reading about this feature on phoronix.com about a year ago
[19:06] <k1> hi
[19:06] <throwaway_rq> gabel: have you uninstalled any restricted drivers that were installed (if they were)
[19:06] <gabel> i will never buy "smart solution" like hybrid graphics again. what a fool i was :(. and support from amd is from north korea...
[19:06] <DIDOsl> toleransdata
[19:07] <meganerd> gabel: http://www.phoronix.com/scan.php?page=news_item&px=OTI3MQ
[19:07] <gabel> now i have fresh install of ubuntu 1204 32 bit with no drivers (only "default")
[19:07] <ubuntu__> K1 can I speak with you?
[19:08] <dackyshawn> hello?
[19:08] <meeep> ubuntu__, ask away - although a quick nick change might make things a tad easier :)
[19:08] <meeep> dackyshawn: hello? can we help?
[19:08] <meganerd> gabel: the hybrid graphics thing is pretty new.  A better approach is what nVidia has taken with the 680
[19:08] <intrader> Are there problems with the deja backup/restore?. On 11.10, restore seems to do nothing except ask for Encryption password (which I did not use when I made the backup).
[19:09] <ubuntu__> I have one problem with the installation of xubuntu 11.10. The error is 126
[19:09] <gabel> meganerd, pretty new... i have this notebook for 2 years...
[19:09] <acicula> meganerd: what approach do you mean?
[19:09] <dackyshawn> sorry meeep i thought my irc client had fubarred as i couldnt see any text or anything.. it's working now... just a small hiccup apparently
[19:10] <aristidesfl> how to remove all the symbolic links inside a folder?
[19:10] <DanneStrat> ubuntu__: During which step do you get this error?
[19:10] <in0cula> I installed 12.04 beta, when will come out the normal version I have to reinstall???
[19:10] <meganerd> acicula: making the underlying architecture aware of it's power consumption and then adjusting as required/desired.
[19:10] <peto_> hello
[19:11] <xangua> !beta | in0cula
[19:11] <meganerd> acicula: the hybrid GPU thing just seems like an inefficient solution.
[19:11] <Fishscene> I'll be fair and honest, I have NOT had a good experience upgrading from beta's to final releases
[19:11] <entrylibrary> Hi!
[19:12] <Fishscene> Half the stuff is broken, I don't get any of the new wallpapers, and this is all default stuff- no modifications to the system other than updating.
[19:12] <Fishscene> I can't stress enough to do a clean install.
[19:12] <acicula> meganerd: dunno what you mean by that but thanks
[19:13] <share> !party
[19:13] <meganerd> acicula: I just mean that using two different GPUs seems dumb when compared to making an nVidia or ATI GPU scale better under low load.
[19:14] <gabriel_> oi
[19:14] <acicula> meganerd ah like so. yeah i agree
[19:14] <zackiv31> if anyone needs a quick and dirty script to download the LTS torrents when they are available: http://paste.ubuntu.com/946179/
[19:15] <zackiv31> (I'm going away for a couple days, but want to do my part and seed)
[19:15] <wmp> beta2 is stable?
[19:15] <blawiz> thats the spirit!
[19:16] <wmp> or beta2 has been stable?
[19:16] <entrylibrary> i have got a bug report
[19:17] <entrylibrary> Can i bug report here?
[19:17] <entrylibrary> I have a big bug to report
[19:17] <Fishscene> entry: Then file a bug report.
[19:17] <Lint> launchpad.net
[19:17] <entrylibrary> Well my bug has got 5 letters and it is called unity
[19:17] <Fishscene> entrylibrary: You were removed from the other channel for rubbish like that. Mind staying on topic and not trolling? Thanks.
[19:18] <entrylibrary> well... i want to help fidn errors and then this way...
[19:18] <jpds> entrylibrary: Hello again.
[19:18] <wmp> entrylibrary: so, change distribuction or desktop
[19:19] <entrylibrary> Yesss hello. i want to improve ubuntu 12.04 shortly before release
[19:19] <Fishscene> entrylibrary: You can discuss your distaste for Unity in #ubuntu-offtopic. Or you can change your desktop environment. No one is forcing you to use Unity.
[19:20] <entrylibrary> No but i wanted to report unity bugs so make it better for all
[19:20] <Lint> why gnome-shell segfaults in ubuntu? was it made intentionally?
[19:20] <kz29> Oh no wonder jpds is saying that about unity and gnome3
[19:20] <Pici> entrylibrary: then use launchpad. #ubuntu is not a bug report channel.
[19:20] <entrylibrary> kz29 hahahaha
[19:20] <kz29> jpds: i meant unity as in the "unity" function in vmware, not the GUI itself
[19:20] <jpds> kz29: Oh right.
[19:21] <kz29> jpds: my bad
[19:21] <entrylibrary> kz29 haha good joke
[19:21] <entrylibrary> ^^
[19:21] <jpds> entrylibrary: Schluss mit Larifari, oder?
[19:21] <aristidesfl> is there anyway of making ls order files/folder by type? ex: 1st folders, 2nd files, 3rd executables, 4rd links ?
[19:21] <kz29> entrylibrary: i didn't mean it as a joke
[19:21] <entrylibrary> kz29 no?
[19:21] <kz29> ignored
[19:22] <entrylibrary> well i report bugs in launchpad !
[19:22] <pranavk> how much left for 12.04 release ?
[19:23] <entrylibrary> But do you really think they will fixed?
[19:23] <entrylibrary> pranavk nly 3 hours
[19:23] <jpds> pranavk: Tomorrow.
[19:23] <pranavk> jpds. i asked bcz its already tomorow for me
[19:23] <jtrucks> has anyone run ownCloud on an Ubuntu server?
[19:23] <entrylibrary> pranavk how late is your time
[19:24] <entrylibrary> pranavk you late is it by you
[19:24] <Pici> !outyet | pranavk entrylibrary
[19:24] <pranavk> entrylibrary. +5:30 utc
[19:24] <entrylibrary> well ios it 2 am pranavk?
[19:25] <pranavk> what ?
[19:26] <pranavk> Pici. sometime? means there is no time, it can happen anytime
[19:26] <pranavk> ?
[19:26] <Pici> pranavk: thats correct.
[19:26] <shadykhan> woot steam coming to linux!
[19:26] <pranavk> somebody said 3 hours.....hmmm
[19:26] <Pici> pranavk: And that someone was removed from the channel.
[19:27] <pranavk> Pici. bcz of this reason that he told lie ?
[19:27] <Pici> pranavk: among other things, yes.
[19:28] <in0cula> if I iconize XCHAT i lost the window and i have to kill the process, any help to fix that, no icon in systray :(
[19:30] <Lint> why gnome-shell segfaults in ubuntu? was it made intentionally?
[19:31] <Pici> Lint: don't be ridiculous.
[19:32] <in0cula> in my point of view unity is better than gnome 3
[19:32] <Lint> unity IS gnome3 without shell
[19:32] <irenicus09> in0cula: duh..that's why ur in #ubuntu :P
[19:32] <willwork4foo> in0cula, it never used to be. But it's on a par now. It's just missing a decent notification area / system tray.
[19:33] <aaass> is there a program a bit more detailed that top that shows the types of processes i ahve running and organizes them?
[19:33] <kz29> i am really trying hard to get used to unity
[19:33] <Pici> aaass: htop is pretty nifty.
[19:33] <irenicus09> I haven't tried the new unity yet..but from what I've heard in the reviews..I'm optimistic that it won't disappoint :P
[19:33] <kz29> aaass: htop is quite fully featured. i just use top sometimes
[19:34] <aaass> kz29 i was looking for something a bit more broad with more a gui
[19:34] <kz29> ah, something like taskman in window
[19:34] <kz29> windows*
[19:34] <irenicus09> btw is unity the same thing as unity3D? :P
[19:34] <aaass> kz29 well something more like windirstat/kdirstat for processes
[19:34] <guntbert> aaas: everything with a gui consumes more ressources itself
[19:35] <aaass> guntbert yeah but also overcomes limitations of a console
[19:35] <aaass> it's just a process monitor that i would run once in a while
[19:35] <Lint> correction: with linux gui
[19:35] <in0cula> yes the sys tray is a problem, for example xchat disappear and i don't know how to maintain the windows open, no systray
[19:35] <kz29> system>administartion>system monitor?
[19:36] <alessandro_> !List
[19:36] <guntbert> aaas: well there is the system-monitor-applet
[19:36] <kz29> you can also try LTaMe, i kinda like it
[19:36] <kz29> but it's long dead
[19:37] <Artemius23> How much time it takes to upgrade to 12.04 ?
[19:37] <aaass> well they might not make what im looking for...just somethign that organizes the processes graphically by space or frequency or sleep time things like that
[19:37] <kz29> i would suggest geting used to htop
[19:37] <aaass> kz29 might have to
[19:37] <Pici> aaass: htop can do that.  It also supports using the mouse, although only in a limited capacity.
[19:38] <aaass> kz29 well its more about a graphical representation
[19:38] <aaass> df/du gives me info about space usage but it cant beat kdirstat
[19:38] <aaass> of getting a broad overview
[19:38] <kz29> agreed
[19:38] <kz29> aaass: try http://sourceforge.net/projects/procexp/
[19:38] <aaass> kz29 thanks ill look into that
[19:39] <Artemius23> How much time  approximately does it take to upgrade to 12.04 ?
[19:39] <aaass> theres a windows process explorere that was really nice but i forgot the name..maybe if i can remember i can google for <name> linux
[19:39] <Pici> aaass: That link that kz29 shared looks like a clone of it.
[19:40] <aaass> yes ill check it out thanks Pici kz29
[19:41] <kz29> any wine alternatives ? cedega is no longer available unless u sign up as developer last i saw
[19:42] <soreau> guys in ubuntu 11.10 with xfce, ubuntu software is just a completely blank, nonfunctional window
[19:42] <soreau> well I can resize it and the app is responsive but it's nonfunctional as a software center
[19:42] <sleepycat> I need to make a customized live usb. Can anyone tell me if the current best practice for this is still what is outlined here: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/LiveCDCustomizationFromScratch
[19:42] <DanneStrat> kz29: "playonlinux" maybe?
[19:42] <kz29> DanneStrat: will take a look, thx :)
[19:43] <DanneStrat> kz29: :)
[19:43] <aaas> sleepycat try and build oen with all the bells and whistles with everything you need on it... i have windows xp, 7, ubuntu, recover software, ubcd on a single one
[19:44] <aaas> sleepycat  look into rmprepusb
[19:44] <bobweaver> sleepycat: easyway out but not the best at all by any means is remastersys but I Like debian live a real lot
[19:44] <sleepycat> aaas: ok taking a look at rmprepusb.
[19:45] <kz29> DanneStrat: wow, im surprised about the supported list of games.
[19:45] <aaas> sleepycat its a pain getting the config files just right, but if you need help i can give you my config files
[19:45] <kz29> i might really have ubuntu as main OS if i can confirm that it works well for my list of games
[19:46] <shadykhan> whats the best software so i can VM windows?
[19:46] <acicula> kz29: playonlinux is just a frontend for wine, which already comes with ubuntu
[19:46] <kz29> shadykhan: free, virtualbox, decent enough
[19:47] <kz29> acicula: yup i understand (as i think that's what i saw on the website's intro) - however i think they have customized far enough to support more than what wine can do?
[19:47] <sleepycat> bobweaver: Any idea of the difference between remastersys and the ubuntu customization kit?
[19:48] <acicula> kz29: wine is what runs the programs, this tool makes it easier to set up. So definitly worth trying first
[19:49] <kz29> acicula: thanks. definitely will.  the only hard time i ever had with wine is some non-utf8 programs in chinese which i needed to run
[19:50] <Fishscene> Does anyone know of a package that allows a system admin to customize the look and feel of the Ubuntu desktop so that users who log in for the first time have a certain desktop wallpaper, icons, etc..?
[19:51] <zelrik> is there an option in wget to get images recursively
[19:51] <zelrik> like test.com/1.png test.com/2.png etc
[19:51] <kz29> do a while loop...
[19:52] <meeep> zelrik: man wget - go work some wget magic :P
[19:52] <aaas> zelrik can you use the downloadthemall plugin for firefox?
[19:53] <aaas> zelrik wont work if you cant actually see the images on a common webpage, but if you can it's really easy
[19:56] <smokie_> hey guys, anyone can help me out with changing the color of my icons on my ubuntu desktop?
[19:57] <smokie_> i changed the theme but the icons still have the same old colors
[19:58] <aaas> is there a way to track packages that you may have installed a long time ago, but you don't use anymore?
[20:00] <mv63> grub question
[20:03] <delinquentme> I've got a configured windows installation on another partition
[20:03] <delinquentme> is there a way to run this through linux?
[20:04] <delinquentme> i'd love to run photoshop quickly and grab a few screenshots then bring them back into linux
[20:04] <killubuntu> will version 12 be released tomorrow?
[20:05] <Fishscene> killubuntu: or earlier we hope
[20:05] <DJ> Yes
[20:05] <killubuntu> OooooooOOooo
[20:05] <killubuntu> give!
[20:05] <mv63> grub2 with ubuntu 12.04 beta 2 dual boot xp and ubuntu, grub can access xp but ubuntu says it can't read file. is this the correct group for this?
[20:05] <killubuntu> :)
[20:05] <DJ> tomorrow is the 12 release
[20:05] <endra> Hello
[20:06] <endra> We have a developer who travelled and now we need to format the hard disk. However, I can't backup his data because it is encrypted. I realize that I cannot access it. I just need to backup that data somewhere else temporarily so that we can use the hard disk and he can recover his data when he comes back for it. Which paths should I be backing up?
[20:07] <bob_> #ubuntu-classroom
[20:07] <yuri__> I know. I keep coming back with more questions about the Kernel. :) I was just wondering, how does ACPI actually affect my computer? As in: If I totally remove ACPI support from my kernel, will my computer break?
[20:08] <delinquentme> vmware?
[20:08] <delinquentme> good ? bad?
[20:08] <Fishscene> VMWare is an industry leader and in many fortune 500 companies. What do you mean by "good/bad"?
[20:09] <guntbert> endra: can't you contact/ask him?
[20:09] <endra> guntbert: I don't want to ask a developer for his password.. I personally wouldn't give it out lol
[20:09] <deddily> Will a new user notice much of a difference between the KDE destop environments of Ubuntu, Mint and OpenSuse?
[20:09] <aaas> whats the command to display the list of currently installed packages with apt-get
[20:10] <guntbert> endra: no, ask him what needs backup  :-)
[20:10] <Fishscene> deddily: You can look at screenshots on google and compare.
[20:10] <reader_> Hai guys !! , I got some difficulties here . I installed xp as guest in my ubuntu 11.10 I setup network as NAT . my problem is I cant ping to Virtual box guest xp no firewall is turned on . I can able to ping to host and use the host apache2 server.
[20:11] <deddily> Fishscene: Screenshots don't show that much to be honest. I'm thinking about the whole feel of the OS
[20:11] <endra> guntbert: ah, I think everything is encrypted in /home/user/.ecryptfs and /home/user/.Private but I want to make sure those are the only ones I need to backup and that they can be restored later
[20:11] <Fishscene> deddily: Do you have a desktop virtualization program?
[20:11] <Logan_> aaas: dpkg --get-selections
[20:11] <kirkland> endra: back up all of /home to be safe
[20:12] <aaas> Logan_ thanks i thought there was one for apt-get, but i think that will do
[20:12] <guntbert> endra: yes, I understood as much - but only the person who wrote the data  will know - hence my suggestion
[20:12] <deddily> Fishscene: Sadly not... although I was thinking of setting one up - in Linux
[20:12] <Fishscene> If not, you can use the free Virtualbox and you can install all of them and run them at the same time... depending on how powerful your system is of course.
[20:12] <Logan_> aaas: Actually, dpkg -l is more helpful.
[20:12] <aaas> Logan_ the one i was thking of had more info
[20:12] <Logan_> aaas: It gives you the versions and the descriptions of the packages.
[20:12] <aaas> Logan_ yes thats it
[20:13] <Logan_> aaas: Cool. :-)
[20:13] <aaas> Logan_ thanks
[20:13] <Logan_> aaas: No problem.
[20:13] <endra> kirkland: that's a good idea. I think taring it should be good enough
[20:13] <deddily> Fishscene: Thanks for the tip
[20:13] <Fishscene> NP Mate.
[20:13] <reader_> Hai guys !! , I got some difficulties here . I installed xp as guest in my ubuntu 11.10 I setup network as NAT . my problem is I cant ping to Virtual box guest xp no firewall is turned on . I can able to ping to host and use the host apache2 server.
[20:14] <Fishscene> reader_: It is working normally. NAT hides your XP guest behind your hosts IP address. You can ping out, but you can't ping in.
[20:14] <geekbri> what piece of software owns the /etc/security directory? Or is it intrinstic to linux
[20:15] <geekbri> does that belong to PAM
[20:16] <reader_> Fishscene, thank man for the replay!
[20:17] <Fishscene> NP :P
[20:17] <reader_> Fishscene, Is there any solution for Ping in
[20:17] <klync> geekbri: `dpkg-query -S /etc/security`
[20:17] <Fishscene> reader_: To do what you are doing, you'd have to place the VM in bridged mode so that it gets it's own IP address on your network (if you are using DHCP) Bridged mode exposes the VM like another computer plugged into a switch
[20:20] <Axsuul> How would I get a group's id? id -g GROUPNAME doesn't appear to work
[20:21] <reader_> FishFace, So I need to change the network adapter NAT to bridged . So wot abt sharing the localhost on guest can I able to get apache server in guest via bridged?
[20:22]  * tekonivelo hopes removing ~/.config/monitors.xml frees up system resources
[20:22] <geekbri> klync: thanks, as I expected. its part of pam
[20:22] <Fishscene> Reader_: Think of NAT like a home router- it isolates your VM from the network somewhat. Think of Bridged like a networking switch. And think of localhost as VM to Host only communication.
[20:23] <martian> Is there any way to prevent crontab from deleting itself when you accidentally "crontab -r"? 'r' is right next to 'e' :x
[20:23] <Fishscene> So yes. If your apache server is on the Host and you only want your VM to talk to the host, then enable localhost mode on the networking
[20:23] <klync> Axsuul: `grep ^$GROUPNAME /etc/group | cut -d ":" -f2`?
[20:23] <Fishscene> for the guest
[20:23] <klync> *f3
[20:23] <sloucher> reader_ apache will work great in a virtual machine. All machines in your network will be able to see it and use it.
[20:24] <WinCamXP> I have an ubuntu 11.10 desktop machine here. I tried removing lightdm from the startup and changing GRUB configs, but when it booted it was a black screen. I had to use recovery mode to edit those back to what they were. Anyone know what the problem is?
[20:24] <WinCamXP> I'm SSH'ed into the same machine if you need what GPU it has - I'm fairly sure it's an nVidia.
[20:25] <Fishscene> reader_: sloucher is correct, as long as your VM is using a bridged network adapter.
[20:25] <alien64> SaRSAeOL: you didn't edit correctly :)
[20:26] <y3sh> i'm trying to setup an irc server on my box, and was wondering if anyone had any experience setting a password on an irc server?
[20:26] <alien64> SaRSAeOL: without knowing what you did no one can help
[20:27] <SaRSAeOL> alien64: ??
[20:27] <alien64> as in what did you change
[20:27] <SaRSAeOL> alien64: i didn't ask a question
[20:27] <WinCamXP> The reason I wanted to boot in CLI was because I use it as a server, and i don't want LXDE hogging too much memory that could be used for the server - so what should i do to get it to dosplay CLI properly?
[20:28] <SaRSAeOL> alien64: or did i? lol
[20:28] <alien64> SaRSAeOL: i guou didnt sorryess y
[20:28] <alien64> guess
[20:28] <zxcvbnm> ciao
[20:28] <zxcvbnm> !lista
[20:28] <SunTsu> Axsuul: you could do what klync did with grep and cut with awk only: awk -F: "(\$1 == \"$GROUPNAME\") { print \$3}" /etc/group
[20:28] <SaRSAeOL> alien64: no problem… good to know you're in my corner even if i forget to ask questions ;)
[20:29] <alien64> lol
[20:29] <klync> SunTsu: aah, the Art of Awk :P
[20:29] <SunTsu> klync: yeah, most people forget that awk can match stuff, too, and I like to have a single binary call only
[20:30] <delinquentme> sooo whats easier running an existing windows install on VirtualBox .. or on VMware?
[20:30] <SunTsu> delinquentme: it's the same
[20:30] <MonkeyDust> delinquentme  depends on you prefer
[20:30] <WinCamXP> Does anyone know why my server had a black screen when booting in CLI?
[20:30] <delinquentme> is vmware free?
[20:31] <SunTsu> delinquentme: vmware player is
[20:31] <MonkeyDust> delinquentme  no
[20:31] <delinquentme> i saw something about providing a license on the website
[20:31] <klync> delinquentme: there is a no-cost player
[20:31] <WinCamXP> it runs Ubuntu 11.10 Desktop, but I didn't want my DE using too much power
[20:31] <SunTsu> free as in "doesn't cost anything", not in the way open source is
[20:31] <MonkeyDust> SunTsu  you mean: free as in free beer
[20:31] <delinquentme> correct SunTsu
[20:31] <delinquentme> but either of these will allow me to select an existing windows install
[20:32] <SunTsu> delinquentme: if you decide to use vbox and you need USB forwarding, use non-OSE
[20:32] <alien64> WinCamXP: I tried removing lightdm from the startup and changing GRUB configs <<< without knowing what you edited and put back it would be hard to help
[20:32] <Chr|s> How do I rename a Filesystem? I use for back ups, music, pictures..etc
[20:32] <delinquentme> nah im just going to pass items through the file system SunTsu thanks though
[20:33] <zykotick9> Chr|s: is it an ext2/3/4 filesystem?
[20:33] <WinCamXP> alien64: I changed "quiet splash" to "text" on that one line in the GRUB config
[20:33] <SunTsu> delinquentme: well, converting a disk image to either vmware or vbox is easy, there's tools for that. The hardest part is changing drivers and stuff, because "hardware" did change
[20:33] <klync> Chr|s: depends on what you mean. if i understand you correctly, you can unmount a partition and remount it at a different mount point
[20:33] <alex___> hi all, i have a problem with my wlan card in ubuntu 11. it quotes "firmware missing" what can i do?
[20:33] <SunTsu> MonkeyDust: yeah, exactly, didn't remember that example
[20:34] <alien64> humm that shouldnt have borked nuthin WinCamXP
[20:34] <delinquentme> SunTsu, Ohh so I need to convert the disk image to make it usable in virtual box?
[20:34] <delinquentme> http://chaits.accosted.net/?p=54  << ima try this out
[20:34] <WinCamXP> alien64: should I try update-rc.d -f gdm remove?
[20:35] <WinCamXP> alien64: or would "quiet splash text" instead of "text" work?
[20:35] <willwork4foo> Hi all. Can anyone recommend to me a good "location switcher" program? Essentially, I have an Ubuntu laptop (12.04 LTS Beta 2) and I work between two locations. One of those locations requires a proxy to be set, as well as some DNS search settings. The other location does not.
[20:35] <Chr|s> zykotick9, no its a ntfs so I can use it both here and windows
[20:35] <SunTsu> delinquentme: Not strictly neccessary, there are ways to do it without converting it or even taking an image
[20:36] <alien64> WinCamXP: researching
[20:36] <staticsafe> can someone quickly which timezone the new release is going to be in?
[20:36] <delinquentme> so im trying to run solidworks inside this
[20:36] <zykotick9> Chr|s: k, someone else can help you then.
[20:36] <delinquentme> but obviously fast / simple install is ideal
[20:36] <klync> Chr|s: is this what you're looking for? http://tuxecute.blogspot.ca/2008/09/change-your-ntfs-windows-drive-label.html
[20:36] <SunTsu> delinquentme: which way is the best depends on what exactly you plan to do
[20:36] <Chr|s> klync, nope, just looking to rename it it so it doesn't show up 1.0 TB Filesystem
[20:36] <nannes> which is the most simple & most lighweight LaTex editor for ubuntu? It's for high-school kids
[20:37] <SunTsu> nannes: that prolly is lyx
[20:37] <Chr|s> klync, that that could be it, taking a look
[20:37] <WinCamXP> alien64: running out of time, gotta leave in 10 mins - I've only tried doing this: a combination of update-rc.d -f lightdm remove and changing the "quiet splash" thing in GRUB to "text"
[20:37] <WinCamXP> I've put everything back to dafault though
[20:38] <klync> Chr|s: top google result for "ntfs disk label linux"
[20:38] <nannes> SunTsu: :O you are Sun.Tsinoumura ? :O
[20:38] <nannes> XD
[20:38] <delinquentme> I've got an intel i5 CPU ... is that not i386 arch?
[20:38] <delinquentme> its certainly not AMD??
[20:38] <klync> delinquentme: x86_64
[20:38] <WinCamXP> do you knwo if it's 32 or 64bit?
[20:39] <alex___> hi all, i have a problem with my wlan card in ubuntu 11. it quotes "firmware missing" what can i do?
[20:39] <delinquentme> 64
[20:39] <delinquentme> but theres only two options
[20:39] <klync> oh, i didn't know they made a 32-bit version of it
[20:39] <WinCamXP> which are
[20:39] <delinquentme> Ubuntu 10.04 LTS ("Lucid Lynx")  i386 |  AMD64
[20:39] <alien64> WinCamXP: replace "quiet splash" with >>> nomodeset
[20:39] <klync> delinquentme: amd64
[20:39] <SunTsu> delinquentme: that x86_64 although I'd use i386 arch aka 32bit if you have 4GB RAM or less
[20:39] <WinCamXP> with or without quotes?
[20:39] <Chr|s> internet speed is really reduced when running ubuntu for some reason
[20:39] <alien64> if the quates are there keep them
[20:40] <delinquentme> O_o ;;;;;;  AMD != intel right?
[20:40] <delinquentme> AMD and intel are brands of chips
[20:40] <WinCamXP> so make it "nomodeset"?
[20:40] <delinquentme> i386 i thought was intels arch?
[20:40] <alien64> WinCamXP: with them
[20:40] <klync> delinquentme: when 64-bit was first coming out, intel tried some horrible hacked platform, and AMD extended x86 the correct way
[20:40] <SunTsu> delinquentme: wrong. amd created the 64bit arch, intel used it for their own cpus
[20:40] <delinquentme> or i386 == 32 bit arch
[20:40] <delinquentme> ohhh
[20:40] <delinquentme> ic ic
[20:41] <klync> delinquentme: intel or amd, it's called amd64, because intel's was called "ia64"
[20:41] <SunTsu> delinquentme: i386 is monstly used as synonyme for 32 bit x86
[20:41] <klync> and intel's blew
[20:41] <WinCamXP> once I get home i'll try that - alien64: also, I have a paper on how to get wireless working...using iwconfig and ifconfig
[20:41] <delinquentme> SunTsu, Noted .. klync thanks!
[20:41] <SunTsu> mostly even
[20:41] <klync> to be fair, intel designed the 8086
[20:41] <WinCamXP> i can't put my server where the router is, so I have to survive running servers on wireless - it's fast enough though
[20:41] <alien64> WinCamXP: goodluck
[20:42] <WinCamXP> worst case scenario I have to go back in as root through recovery, mount the drive as writeable, and edit the configs back again
[20:42] <atari2600a> how do I change the orientation of the workspaces is metacity
[20:42] <atari2600a> the only option in gconf-editor I see is num_workspaces
[20:43] <alien64> WinCamXP: yup hopefully will work for you
[20:43] <Chr|s> anyone else lagging bad here?
[20:43] <alien64> Chris nope
[20:44] <alien64> Chris change your server
[20:44] <reader_> Fishscene, I just reconfigured the Guest xp os and found that I cant able to communicate !
[20:44] <Tarzipper_> how to make a shortcut to a file that runs it?
[20:45] <MonkeyDust> Tarzipper_  gnome-open [file]
[20:45] <Chr|s> alien64, pretty sure its my connection. Even my internet is slow. It isn't for windows. hmmm
[20:45] <Fishscene> reader_: Does your guest OS have an IP address? Start > Run > cmd > (type in without quotes) "ipconfig /all"
[20:45] <Tarzipper_> not cool to do it from gui?
[20:46] <Fishscene> Tarzipper: I don't even know how to check from the GUI.
[20:46] <evildaemon> When will 12.04 be out?
[20:46] <Tarzipper_> tomorrow
[20:46] <burububburu> reading here-> "https://help.ubuntu.com/community/PXEInstallServer" I cannot find "sudo /etc/init.d/dhcp3-server restart" why?
[20:46] <evildaemon> Like midnight tomorrow or...
[20:47] <burububburu> sudo: /etc/init.d/dhcp3-server: command not found
[20:47] <Tarzipper_> so this is pre-release? http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/daily-live/current/
[20:47] <GG111> burububburu: is it not isc-dhcp....
[20:47] <reader_> Fishscene, The IP is 169.254.42.139
[20:47] <Tarzipper_> we are to download it and install fresh?
[20:47] <evildaemon> Tarzipper_: Yeah.
[20:47] <Tarzipper_> they call the release the same thing?
[20:47] <evildaemon> Tarzipper_: I'm pretty sure you can just upgrade if your doing daily builds.
[20:47] <killfoo_> hi! is there already a final release 1204 available as torrent?
[20:47] <reader_> Fishscene, It is autoconfigured
[20:47] <burububburu> GG111: someone hould correct this. But from what release is changed? I'm on 12.04beta
[20:47] <ProfessorBacon> hm who hilighted me hours ago?
[20:47] <Tarzipper_> somoene snaggletoothed me for thinking I could update to it.
[20:48] <GG111> burububburu: know as at isc-dhcp... since 11,04, but it may as well be much before that
[20:48] <Tarzipper_> They made it so we have to wait until midnight local time to download it lol
[20:48] <Fishscene> reader_: That is a self-assigned IP address. what mode is the VM NIC in? host only? Bridged?
[20:48] <burububburu> GG111:  I can't enable that
[20:49] <GG111> burububburu: sorry, but I'm not sure what is the issue ?
[20:49] <burububburu> GG111:  http://paste.ubuntu.com/946321/
[20:49] <avak> salut
[20:50] <reader_> sloucher,  U just said that In the same network every one can use apache server so can I make a rule saying that ony specific IP address can able to view the server?
[20:50] <Tarzipper_> evildaemon: mine is semi-broken from trying dual screens, adding mac look and some debian thing, pasting from 10 things to do after installing ubuntu. This is a welcome change from W7 running the drive and uploading all day.
[20:50] <GG111> burububburu: can you issue /etc/init.d/isc-dhcp-server start
[20:51] <reader_> FishFace, can u please tell me how to find the VM NIC and all those stuffz
[20:51] <Fishscene> reader_: That would have to be done on your apache server.
[20:51] <burububburu> GG111:  http://paste.ubuntu.com/946326/
[20:51] <sloucher> reader_ Sure, I think you can do that in apache2.conf
[20:51] <avak> ya quelqun qi parle francais
[20:52] <Fishscene> reader_: The VM Nic is configured in the VM settings. You can set the mode there.
[20:52] <reader_> sloucher, k
[20:52] <alien64> sheesh dont anyone use google before comming here like you reader_ for one
[20:52] <GG111> burububburu: are you doing it with "sudo" ?
[20:52] <reader_> alien64, It nice to be chat wid people
[20:53] <burububburu> GG111: no, sorry, i forgot that, but still doesn't start
[20:53] <GG111> you guys are the only friends I have
[20:53] <RiMMER> hello, any rough estimate on how many hours left to 12.04 ?
[20:53] <sambagirl>  anyone know a good game for pc or linux like chaos strikes back or eye of the beholder?
[20:53] <burububburu> GG111: http://paste.ubuntu.com/946328/
[20:53] <klync> avak: #ubuntu-fr
[20:53] <GG111> whoever asked about lags, can count me in
[20:54] <GG111> burububburu: give me the history please. was dhcpserver working, if so, till when, etc..
[20:54] <alien64> yeah whatever dude have evertone do the work for ya
[20:54] <MrWGW> hey there, out of curiosity has a release date for 12.04 been set/
[20:54] <avak> hello, any rough estimate on how many hours left to 12.04 ?
[20:54] <GG111> can someonw put a bot for 12.04 questions :)
[20:54] <MonkeyDust> MrWGW  a few hours to go
[20:54] <MonkeyDust> 12.04| GG111
[20:54] <zykotick9> !schedule | MrWGW
[20:54] <MonkeyDust> !12.04| GG111
[20:55] <burububburu> GG111: never touched dhcpserver. It's the first time I'm wokrin' with it 'cause I'd like to boot over lan
[20:55] <zykotick9> avak: the "time" is not generally known before hand, only the date
[20:55] <delinquentme> whats the command used to get the names and the disc layouts from commandline?
[20:55] <RiMMER> guys, I have a question
[20:55] <burububburu> GG111: oh, I'm connected via static IP (DHCP disabled in modem-router)
[20:55] <MonkeyDust> delinquentme  blkid
[20:56] <GG111> burububburu: OK, lets get it done then. I'm cooking dinner so my repsonce time is going to be sloew -
[20:56] <delinquentme> MonkeyDust, false.
[20:56] <RiMMER> if I install ubuntu first, then windows 7, how do I reinstall grub so that ubuntu handles my OSes?
[20:56] <burububburu> GG111: already had dinner! :p
[20:56] <zykotick9> delinquentme: you can also try "mount" and/or "sudo fdisk -l"
[20:57] <zykotick9> !grub | RiMMER
[20:57] <barab> work
[20:57] <GG111> burububburu: I'll need 5 minutes, I need to mount a very old ubuntu partitions so I can see my old but perfectly working DHCP server, on ubuntu.
[20:57] <sloucher> delinquentme I use a plain df - there's probably a more officail way
[20:57] <delinquentme> how to stop shell script and await user input?
[20:58] <burububburu> GG111: ty! I'll wait
[20:58] <SunTsu> delinquentme: read
[20:58] <SunTsu> delinquentme: but, you know, this channel's topic is ubuntu, there's more general channels elsewhere
[21:00] <GG111> burububburu: can you issue /usr/sbin/dhcpd  ?
[21:01] <reader_> Fishscene, settings is attached to adapter bridged and name is wlan0, adapter type is PCnet FastIII (AM79c973)
[21:01] <intrader> I have a /home backup done via deja on 10.10. Another laptop has been prepared with 11.10. Attempt to do a full restore using deja fails on account of deja asking for Encryption password. I did not write the backup with encryption, so I don't understand why it wants a password. How do I restore?
[21:02] <Fishscene> reader_: 2 Questions. 1: Is your wireless router a "managed" router? Something like a Cisco business-grade wireless router? 2: Why aren't you using a network cable?
[21:02] <willwork4foo> Anyone know of a good network location-switcher program for ubuntu? doing it manually is getting a bit old.
[21:03] <GG111> mm.. there's about a whole 1 minute lag for me here
[21:03] <burububburu> GG111: ah ah ah!!!
[21:04] <GG111> burububburu: i'll be back in 5  :)
[21:05] <reader_> Fishscene, Answer for question 1 : I'am using wifi router and the connection is free .answer 2 I dont want to use network cable for that
[21:05] <burububburu> GG111: shame on me... I made an error on dhcp.conf and actually "sudo /usr/sbin/dhcpd" gives me the reason why
[21:05] <burububburu> now fix that and dhcp started!
[21:05] <burububburu> GG111: ty for givin me that hint! ;)
[21:06] <reader_> Fishscene, please help me connect to VM !!
[21:07] <ZenMaster> XDRP, everytime I hit the "d" character is showing my desktop. Quite annoying when I need that command quite often.
[21:07] <Fishscene> reader_: This could be a bit complicated as we don't know the wireless setup. I'm at a loss as to how to get you an IP address. I suppose you could try manually setting the IP/DNS/gateway address, but that can cause IP conflicts if you select an IP that is in use.
[21:08] <ZenMaster> I found a work around, but I don't know where it is pointing. ->app->metacity>global_keybindings.
[21:08] <GG111> ubuntulog: I'm back, how goes it ?
[21:08] <GG111> oops, burububburu: I'm back, how goes it ?
[21:09] <ZenMaster> Funny thing is two days ago it was not doing this?
[21:09] <ZenMaster> Interesting as I don't login to the desktop on this machine very often.
[21:09] <burububburu> GG111: shame on me... I made an error on dhcp.conf and actually "sudo /usr/sbin/dhcpd" gives me the reason why
[21:09] <reader_> Fishscene, the host IP is 192.168.2.103 and the gate way is 192.168.2.1
[21:09] <burububburu> now fix dhcp.conf and dhcp started!
[21:09] <burububburu> GG111: ty for givin me that hint! ;)
[21:09] <GG111> cool
[21:10] <GG111> enjoy your shiny dhcpd
[21:10] <Fishscene> reader_: Yes, but it's possible the wireless won't give you an IP address because of how virtualization handles IP addressing. I ran into this very problem myself with my Cisco Aironet wireless routers. I don't know what you are running, but Cisco security settings generally frown on VM's.
[21:11] <reader_> Fishscene, Is that enough for u to get understand abt my wireless setup ?
[21:13] <reader_> Fishscene,  The wirless route is called Trendnet .
[21:13] <reader_> Fishscene, and I have an access to the router
[21:13] <burububburu> GG111: I'll enjoy installation over LAN now! ty again!
[21:13] <burububburu> GG111: bye!
[21:14] <OfficeITGuy149> Hello #Ubuntu! I'm my office's IT guy and I've been tasked with finding the ultimate Ubuntu laptop. It needs to handle wifi, external monitors, battery life, and everything about the OS as FLAWLESSLY as possible. Does this machine exist? Budget doesn't matter.
[21:14] <OfficeITGuy149> We have a lot of Ubuntu machines right now but they all have one bug or another that can't be fixed
[21:14] <klync> lenovo stinkpads?
[21:14] <klync> OfficeITGuy149: ^^
[21:14] <GG111> OfficeITGuy149: look for system76 , they have preinstalled ubuntu laptops
[21:14] <pup-0854> OfficeITGuy149, asus
[21:15] <OfficeITGuy149> I've used both thinkpads and system76 and had never-ending issues
[21:15] <rkokkelk> Hey guys, has anyone have some tips regarding starting to contribute to Ubuntu?
[21:15] <pup-0854> asus and gateway
[21:15] <Fishscene> reader_: I'm unfamiliar with that. The issue seems to be beyond my skill level and expertise. With wireless (Not true with wired), the VM "piggybacks" on the connection of the host and this looks VERY MUCH like a man-in-the-middle or hack attack on the network. This is why I *highly* suggest wired. Also, wired is far more reliable.
[21:15] <Fishscene> Otherwise, I'm unable to assist further. Sorry mate. :S
[21:15] <GG111> OfficeITGuy149: intresting, well, HP have some good laptops for Linux, but so does almost any brand outthere.
[21:15] <OfficeITGuy149> think pads in particular have really terrible battery life and the display port does not work on new models under ubuntu
[21:15] <commodore256> I can't find the skype icon in 12.04
[21:16] <Jordan_U> OfficeITGuy149: I've heard nothing but good reviews of Zareason products.
[21:16] <OfficeITGuy149> I work for an company that has open-source as one of it's key values and I'm somehow tasked with making that a flawless, perfect technical reality
[21:16] <reader_> Fishscene, So need to be smart out right ?
[21:16] <OfficeITGuy149> Yeah, Zareason! I haven't actually worked with one of those.
[21:16] <pup-0854> asus troll
[21:16] <OfficeITGuy149> anyone have opinions on those?
[21:16] <OfficeITGuy149> and who uses asus? I don't know if I've ever seen one.
[21:17] <pup-0854> may be why you are here asking?
[21:17] <GG111> OfficeITGuy149: you're being asked for a bit too much, open souce has its demands, if you'll pay for red-hat license, then you'll be sleeping nice and quiet.
[21:17] <OfficeITGuy149> no shit, I'm being asked for an impossible task
[21:17] <OfficeITGuy149> it's really awful, but shit rolls downhill
[21:17] <pup-0854> EVERTHING in IT is
[21:17] <GG111> or, actually, if we're in the ubuntu room :) a Canonicl license is just as good :)
[21:18] <Fishscene> just a sec...
[21:18] <pangolin> OfficeITGuy149: please mind the language.
[21:18] <commodore256> I can't find my skype window in unity even though the daemon is running
[21:18] <OfficeITGuy149> my apologies.
[21:18] <pup-0854> :)
[21:18] <GG111> OfficeITGuy149: so, tell your boss about support option from Canonical
[21:18] <OfficeITGuy149> Canonical has sent me on horrible wild goose chases, provided "official builds" that are FAR worse than the standard install, etc etc
[21:18] <OfficeITGuy149> I can't trust them
[21:18] <GG111> OfficeITGuy149: http://www.canonical.com/enterprise-services/ubuntu-advantage/support
[21:18] <OfficeITGuy149> and our CEO has absolutely no interest in hearing that linux isn't FLAWLESS and exactly identical to it's closed counterpart
[21:19] <OfficeITGuy149> it's a rough situation
[21:19] <pup-0854> asus + ubu 10.04 + limited user account
[21:19] <MonkeyDust> OfficeITGuy149  that's more for #ubuntu-offtopic
[21:19] <OfficeITGuy149> machines that run ubuntu are off-topic?
[21:19] <pup-0854> kinda
[21:19] <Ben64> OfficeITGuy149: www.dell.com/ubuntu
[21:20] <OfficeITGuy149> we did Dells too, they were a nightmare with wifi
[21:20] <OfficeITGuy149> four or five different models
[21:20] <pup-0854> now if you need a driver to write
[21:20] <pup-0854> ubu is the place to be
[21:20] <MonkeyDust> OfficeITGuy149 this channel is for ubuntu support only
[21:20] <OfficeITGuy149> ok, I'll go to off-topic then
[21:20] <OfficeITGuy149> thanks
[21:20] <pup-0854> gl
[21:20] <commodore256> nevermind, I got it
[21:20] <burububburu> GG111: is possible to boot a LiveCD via LAN?
[21:21] <textk> hello everyone!
[21:21] <pup-0854> :)
[21:23] <GG111> burububburu: never tried that, are you looking for a PXE boot ?
[21:23] <burububburu> yup
[21:23] <burububburu> GG111: i've managed pxe booting the netboot files
[21:23] <reader_> Fishscene, Thanks man Now guest is getting internet connection but cant able to connect to host apache server If iam right I need to configure the apache.conf right ?
[21:24] <burububburu> GG111: just asking if also the LiveCD cuold be booted via LAN
[21:24] <Sir_Leto> I've setup my computer as a bluetooth audio sink so my phone sends audio to it, which will then play though my headphones. When I did this, I noticed it skips, is this a bluetooth bandwith problem, or a problem with pulse audio server?
[21:24] <aristidesfl> is it possible to pipe the result of this: "ls -dl *(/); ls -dl *(*); ls -dl *(@); ls -dl *(^@*/) " to column(1)?
[21:25] <Sir_Leto> Is there anyway I could test latency?
[21:25] <heckman> ping, mtr, tcptraceroute to name a few
[21:25] <yao_ziyuan> how do i remove a font?
[21:26] <clay-> dumb question, if I've got some custom software (pulled from git) that doesn't really install, is there a recommend path/directory to put it?
[21:26] <heckman> Sir_Leto: I'd recommend MTR, personally.
[21:26] <Sir_Leto> MTR?
[21:26] <heckman> TR
[21:26] <heckman> MTR*
[21:26] <heckman> It's available in the Ubuntu package repos.  If you want a version without X11 requirements, use "mtr-tiny".  If you want a GUI: "mtr"
[21:27] <Sir_Leto> That'll work with bluetooth?
[21:27] <reader_> Fishscene, ?
[21:27] <Tahin> clay-, I think the standard is /opt/. Could be wrong.
[21:27] <heckman> Er, oops.  Sorry small IRC window.  Missed that portion above that.
[21:27] <textk> hello, i have set up a email server using postfix, i am looking for a solution that when a specific user whants to send a e-mail he could specify another identity to send from (ex: send on behalf of office@domain instead user@domain), could you send me in the right direction please?
[21:27] <Sir_Leto> I don't think you saw the other part of my question..
[21:27] <heckman> I've never tried to check connectivity over Bluetooth...
[21:28] <reader_> Fishscene, Any way thanks for u r help man!!
[21:29] <Sir_Leto> I'm playing audio from my phone over bluetooth to my desktop, which then plays to my headphones over bluetooth. I wanted to see what was the cause of the skipping.
[21:29] <Sir_Leto> I'm thinking my adapter isn't able to stream that fast, but I have no way to confirm that.
[21:30] <pup-0854> I need some help with ssh .Xauthority file
[21:30] <Sir_Leto> I'm not connecting my headphones directly to my phone because I also want to use them with my computer.
[21:30] <Sir_Leto> My phone runs android if it matters
[21:30] <SunTsu> pup-0854: stating that you need help does not help you nor us. Tell us your issue
[21:31] <delinquentme> can someone else in here running virtualbox  confirm that their    " id "  command  *does not* list ' vboxusers '
[21:31] <pup-0854> in order to ssh p -22 -X woo@192.168.1.2 and run nautilus I must delete the .Xauthority file first
[21:31] <delinquentme> please ! =]
[21:32] <pup-0854> should I write a custom one?
[21:32] <SunTsu> delinquentme: here it does, I added myself to that group
[21:32] <SunTsu> pup-0854: use -Y
[21:32] <SunTsu> instead of -X
[21:32] <delinquentme> SunTsu, did you install vbox from the repos or from : https://www.virtualbox.org/wiki/Linux_Downloads
[21:33] <pup-0854> -Y  gui error on JMT
[21:33] <SunTsu> delinquentme: I use Oracle's repository
[21:33] <PeterEH> delinquentme, id command *lists* vboxusrs here
[21:33] <SunTsu> pup-0854: if there are errors, please pastey them to http://paste.ubuntu.com/ - without altering them or filtering them
[21:34] <delinquentme> PeterEH, thanks :D
[21:34] <SunTsu> delinquentme: but, as I said, I added the user myself
[21:34] <delinquentme> SunTsu, you mean the group??
[21:34] <SunTsu> delinquentme: yes, of course
[21:35] <delinquentme> or do you mean that you manually added your root to the group ( which existed after install )
[21:35] <SunTsu> added the user to that group
[21:35] <delinquentme> check :D
[21:35] <SunTsu> delinquentme: not root, that doesn't make sense, the user I use for running vbox
[21:35] <delinquentme> yeah sorry
[21:35] <pup-0854> um SunTsu I have to power on another computer and its not the .Xauthority error I am getting its an X error from my ssh client.  So I really just want to know how to re-write or re-make the .Xauthority file that is timing me out and preventing x11 forwarding
[21:35] <delinquentme> i mean whatever `whoami` returns
[21:35] <delinquentme> thanks for clarifying  +1
[21:36] <pup-0854> when -Y auto re-writes it still times out
[21:36] <SunTsu> pup-0854: as I said: paste it. We can't go on without any details
[21:36] <SunTsu> !details | pup-0854
[21:37] <pup-0854> ok
[21:37] <pup-0854> brb
[21:38] <GG111> burububburu: sorry, wasn't here, mm.. not sure about it, I would have to google that
[21:39] <aaas> anyone try and get a 8400gs nvidia working with 11.10...seems harder than i can remember
[21:39] <delinquentme> SunTsu, you dont know offhand what the command to allow oracle repos is do you?
[21:39] <burububburu> GG111: oh, no prob... I'll search for me. Instead was hoping that someone could already know that ;)
[21:40] <GG111> burububburu: I don't do boots over network, too lazy.
[21:41] <Loonatic> what module does i need to enable transperancy ??
[21:41] <burububburu> GG111: me too, but when you have a lot of PCs where install onto them ubuntu, it's good to boot all of them via PXE and install with unattended oem installer
[21:41] <meeep> import transparancy :D
[21:41] <meeep> oh, wait, that's Python :P
[21:42] <Loonatic> meeep: <[21:42] <Guest20939> pup2-0854
[21:42] <SunTsu> delinquentme: https://www.virtualbox.org/wiki/Linux_Downloads has all instructions
[21:45] <WinCamXP> Hello, I wanted to change my Ubuntu 11.10 desktop install to boot to the terminal, without GUI. I used a command to remove lightdm from startup and edited the GRUB configs and changed "quiet splash" to "nomodeset" - It has changed the bootup so that I can see some CLI messages during startup, however it still boots into the login screen afterwards. What am I doing wrong?
[21:45] <meeep> !theartofwar | SunTsu
[21:46] <meeep> [22:45]  <ubottu> Sorry, I don't know anything about theartofwar --- that's why I said SunTsu ;)
[21:46] <Ben64> !text |  WinCamXP
[21:46] <WinCamXP> so "quiet splash text"?
[21:47] <Ben64> sure
[21:47] <WinCamXP> i'll be back if it fails - i've already failed once, I had to use recovery to log in as root, mount the drive as writeable and edit the configs back
[21:48] <WinCamXP> otherwise i will be glad to have gotten this crap working
[21:48] <Ben64> what are you doing that you need to get in with recovery
[21:48] <WinCamXP> well, when I tried to boot in text mode, I had a black screen
[21:48] <Daghdha> Who calls a release 'Oneiric Ocelot'? Realy now?!
[21:48] <WinCamXP> so I changed the configs back to what they were and then it worked normally again
[21:48] <Ben64> WinCamXP: you can edit the boot stuff at the grub menu, and it doesn't save it after reboot
[21:48] <pup2-0854> SunTsu, http://paste.ubuntu.com/946391/
[21:49] <WinCamXP> I -did- do sudo update-grub
[21:49] <Ben64> thats not even what i'm saying
[21:49] <WinCamXP> oh
[21:49]  * WinCamXP feels stupid
[21:49] <Ben64> when the computer starts up, there is a grub menu. hit "e" and you can edit it
[21:49] <Ben64> so then if it doesn't work, you can reboot and everything will be how it was
[21:50] <bobo123> when should the 12.04 be released? i mean what time?
[21:50] <Ben64> bobo123: tomorrow
[21:50] <bobo123> Ben64: what time? morning/evening?
[21:50] <Daghdha> at dawn
[21:50] <Ben64> sometime tomorrow
[21:51] <WinCamXP> i never knew the next ubuntu was so close
[21:51] <ratcheer> bobo123: Depending on your time zone, it is usually later in the day. But, there is really no telling.
[21:51] <Ben64> there probably won't be many changes from today to tomorrow if you really want to install it
[21:51] <WinCamXP> what are the flagship new features/programs?
[21:51] <DJ> everyone is waiting for the New release,
[21:51] <DJ> be patient
[21:51] <zykotick9> bobo123: the "time" is not generally known beforehand
[21:51] <SunTsu> pup2-0854: please, paste what exactly you are doing, too
[21:51] <Daghdha> Am i correct .04 versions are LTS and .10 are not?
[21:52] <scientes> how do i start gnome-shell with llvmpipe?
[21:52] <WinCamXP> Daghda: I don't think they do LTS *every* year
[21:52] <ichilton> When will the final 12.04 iso likely be put in place on the download mirrors?
[21:52] <zykotick9> Daghdha: not all *.04 are LTS, only some.
[21:52] <narsil4> How do I deactivate kdm? A few people mentioned just removing it, but that left me with X not starting.
[21:52] <ichilton> Yeah, last LTS was 10.04 which was April 2010 - 2 years ago
[21:52] <Daghdha> Oh ok. I smy 11.04 LTS?
[21:52] <soulnafein> Hello! At what time is 12.04 available?
[21:52] <Daghdha> ok scratch question
[21:52] <WinCamXP> there's a version history somewhere, probably on the wiki - look it up
[21:53] <soulnafein> s/is/will/
[21:53] <Daghdha> No thanks webcam software, i know what i need to know. Thanks :)
[21:53] <zykotick9> soulnafein: the "time" is not generally known beforehand
[21:53] <balrog-k2n> hi, i'm trying to set up fluxbox for somebody who complains their ubuntu is too slow on their netbook, and i want to show them how to switch between the desktop environments on login, but it's not working (we always get the Gnome desktop), what could be wrong?
[21:53] <Daghdha> WIll upgrade to 11.10 soon, then a while later to 12.04
[21:53] <WinCamXP> someone should set the topic saying "Next ubuntu will be sometime tomorrow - no telling when!" so all we have to say is "read the topic"
[21:53] <SunTsu> is it going to be that way? People joining every ten minutes to ask when 12.04 is going to be released?
[21:53] <balrog-k2n> basically the selection from the drop down list is ignored
[21:54] <soulnafein> zykotick9, it's not going to be like 00:01 though, is it?
[21:54] <soulnafein> :D
[21:54] <zykotick9> soulnafein: generally, no.
[21:54] <Skladowy> hi, i have big problem with my ubuntu 12.04 beta if anyone could help me
[21:54] <Daghdha> I didn't ask that SunTsu. For the record. But yes, this is why some channels have a kick-ban in effect for just such questions
[21:54] <Daghdha> Just a temp ban.
[21:54] <zykotick9> SunTsu: yes, thus the !outyet factoid
[21:54] <Daghdha> To see the error of their ways
[21:56] <balrog-k2n> ah there we go, needed to "Log out" instead of "Switch users"
[21:57] <meeep> :)
[21:59] <chull2058> Hello room, could someone please work with me on Themes and implementing them on 12.04 LTS?
[21:59] <balrog-k2n> do KDE and Gnome use different directories for the "Desktop"?
[21:59] <Ben64> !precise | chull2058
[21:59] <yzhd> The suspend option disappeared in the settings on the upper right after 2 weeks after installing Ubuntu 11.10. After the option disappeared, the PC won't suspend when closing the screen (lid?) either. In system settings-power, I can't chose the suspend option anymore, but in terminal, pm-suspend works. Any idea guys? I have been searching for 2 days, but my issue is still not fixed.
[22:01] <Lubuntiano> aiuto non mi fa installare il pacchetto language-support-writing-it di libre office
[22:01] <zykotick9> !it | Lubuntiano
[22:01] <Lubuntiano> Help, I can't install "language-support-writing-it" pack for libre office!!
[22:01] <ActionParsnip> balrog-k2n: afaik, no
[22:01] <Lubuntiano> zyk ^
[22:02] <ActionParsnip> !info language-support-writing-it
[22:02] <Lubuntiano> ActionParsnip: it should be in libreoffice repos
[22:02] <balrog-k2n> ActionParsnip: somehow the plasma desktop is empty, even though the gnome desktop is full of garbage on this person's account
[22:02] <sambagirl> is it at all possible to get any kind of virus in linux? for some reason my system is pathetically sluggish. i have checked with htop the cpu usage and i dont see anythning out of line however i am suspecious. i have seen companies come out with virus stuff for linux and i suspect that is just bs but i wonder if there can be zombies loose in my system. i have noticed zombies when i run htop listed.
[22:03] <Ben64> !antivirus | sambagirl
[22:03] <ActionParsnip> sambagirl: its is possible but massively unlikely
[22:03] <Lubuntiano> sambagirl: you can have a backdoor (strange, but possible)
[22:03] <sambagirl> well i run wine
[22:04] <SunTsu> sambagirl: zombies are nothing to worry about. That's just processes that couldn't return their process state to their parent process
[22:04] <Fishscene> sambagirl: Is something accessing your hard drive like crazy? Are you running a lot of programs?
[22:04] <yzhd> The suspend option disappeared in the settings on the upper right after 2 weeks after installing Ubuntu 11.10. After the option disappeared, the PC won't suspend when closing the screen (lid?) either. In system settings-power, I can't chose the suspend option anymore, but in terminal, pm-suspend works. Any idea guys? I have been searching for 2 days, but my issue is still not fixed.
[22:04] <sambagirl> yes i understand backdoors in linux and hidden directories and all kinds of tricky stuff but i seriously doubt that is the case becasue it would be recognizable via htop or iftracker
[22:04] <sambagirl> or iptracker
[22:04] <SunTsu> sambagirl: of course there's malware for linux, rootkits and stuff, but there's also chkrootkit, rkhunter and such
[22:04] <monsterdudelol> Hello I am looking for some software which turns my ubuntu laptop into an internet bridge
[22:05] <monsterdudelol> where I can connect other devices to it
[22:05] <sambagirl> i meant iptraf
[22:05] <SunTsu> !ics | monsterdudelol
[22:05] <sambagirl> so there is malware for linux i had no idea
[22:05] <monsterdudelol> ih thanks
[22:05] <balrog-k2n> another problem there is on this netbook is that wifi passwords are never remembered, anything obvious to look for the fault?
[22:05] <Fishscene> No OS is without the potential for malware.
[22:05] <Steevca> I receave this error when i want to install gimp ! http://pastebin.com/YjJsSyiA
[22:06] <Steevca> How can i fix this and install gimp?
[22:06] <blez> is 12 going to be released today?
[22:06] <SunTsu> sambagirl: of course, but somebody would need to break into your box in order to install that
[22:06] <Artemis3> sambagirl, there is malware, but rarely spreads due to people not running things with root priviledges
[22:06] <Fishscene> blez: Hopefully within the next 24 hours or so.
[22:06] <Sir_Leto> Is there anyway I can install a bas script as a program? I want to do this so that I can start minecraft from my launcher.
[22:06] <sambagirl> uoi see ok artemis3
[22:06] <Sir_Leto> *bash
[22:06] <Ben64> Steevca: "E: Unable to correct problems, you have held broken packages."
[22:06] <sambagirl> oh i see
[22:06] <Ian_Moone> How can I set up dual head, such that I can have, say, KDE on one monitor and GNOME on another?
[22:07] <Sir_Leto> I'm using cairo-dock
[22:07] <Ian_Moone> Is that even the case?
[22:07] <Steevca> Ben64: Yes i know,but i am new with linux.How do i fix broken packages?
[22:07] <Sir_Leto> apt-get install -f?
[22:07] <Ben64> Steevca: open up synaptic, and find which packages you have held back
[22:07] <zykotick9> Ian_Moone: you'd need to run separate X Sessions, as two separate users... good luck.
[22:08] <root_> hi! i hqve install ubuntu qs q virtual ;achine on ;y laptopm but i cannot run it as rootm why?
[22:08] <Sir_Leto> ubuntu doesn't have a root account by default
[22:08] <Sir_Leto> Sudo is normally used
[22:08] <shadykhan> i installed virtualbox from the software center and now i cant find it any idea?
[22:08] <jamesstanley> Ubuntu definitely has a root account by default
[22:09] <shadykhan> software center says its installed
[22:09] <bkc_> Sir_Leto: wrong, it has one, but it's disabled :)
[22:09] <balrog-k2n> it does have a root account, obviously, it's just that the password is unset
[22:09] <SunTsu> Ian_Moone: or you could use Xnest or it's successor xephyr with another X session and maximize it on the 2nd screen
[22:09] <Ian_Moone>  Okay, then I can settle for adding a toolbar to GNOME3
[22:09] <Ian_Moone> I was able to do that for gnome2, but I can't fully extend the toolbar in gnome3
[22:09] <Ian_Moone> Is there a way to stretch it across all monitors, instead of using a separate toolbar?
[22:10] <root_> any book on internet to knoz how to use
[22:10] <balrog-k2n> i think there was an option for that in gconf
[22:10] <root_> ubuntu?
[22:11] <balrog-k2n> is compiz settings now called Appearance?
[22:11] <balrog-k2n> i need to find some way for compiz not to use 22% cpu all the time
[22:11] <Ian_Moone> Sorry, but that went up too quickly for me to retype it. What was it?
[22:12] <zykotick9> balrog-k2n: ccsm might help - but compiz is going to eat a lot of CPU no matter what you do...
[22:12]  * balrog-k2n looks up ccsm
[22:14] <balrog-k2n> is there an alternative to compiz that will preserve the settings, menus etc?
[22:15] <zykotick9> balrog-k2n: are you using unity?  if so, unity2d perhaps?  (unity3d requires compiz)
[22:16] <balrog-k2n> zykotick9: i think so, i'm using the defaults,
[22:16] <zykotick9> balrog-k2n: unity is a compiz plugin...
[22:16] <balrog-k2n> is unity2d what i get when i select Ubuntu 2D in the login chooser?
[22:16] <zykotick9> balrog-k2n: yes
[22:17] <balrog-k2n> a ha, that looked almost the same as "Ubuntu", so if this uses less cpu/memory, that's great
[22:17] <balrog-k2n> i.e. i noticed no difference and though it was the same thing
[22:17] <balrog-k2n> thought*
[22:19] <balrog-k2n> a ha, compiz is now not coming up in "top", but dbus and unity-panel-service are still definitely not idle for some reason
[22:20] <balrog-k2n> 13-15% cpu each
[22:20]  * balrog-k2n wonders what you'd need to do in a *panel* implementation to hog 13% of the cpu
[22:20] <amaroks> Hello, is it possible to repair ubuntu installation using the live cd/usb?
[22:22] <zykotick9> balrog-k2n: ubuntu in general uses a lot more resources then some other distributions (for some reason...)
[22:23] <bkc_> amaroks: what kinda repairs are we talking about?
[22:23] <amaroks> I installed linuxmint desktop , gnome-shell but removed them all
[22:23] <wolfmitchell> Is there a way to make ubuntu bootable from lan (Not the installer, but already installed ubuntu)
[22:23] <Fyodorovna> amaroks, to some extent the disc is a tool yes, but a in place repair like windows is not there.
[22:23] <amaroks> so I have few thingsbroken
[22:24] <amaroks> can't I reinstall ubuntu and keep my ubuntu documents etc ?
[22:24] <Fishscene> wolfmitchell: Look into "Ubuntu LTSP" LTSP = Linux Terminal Server Project. It works QUITE well.
[22:24] <bkc_> amaroks: chroot & apt-get ?
[22:24] <wolfmitchell> Does it work with a X server?
[22:24] <Fyodorovna> amaroks, did you make a separate home partition?
[22:25] <amaroks> well its a default ubuntu install beside windows 7
[22:25] <amaroks> been using it for long
[22:25] <bkc_> wolfmitchell: yes
[22:25] <amaroks> Fyodorovna: nothing is seperate
[22:25] <Fyodorovna> amaroks, it ios a dual boot not a wubi install from W7?
[22:25] <Fyodorovna> *is
[22:26] <amaroks> Fyodorovna: its a dual boot
[22:26] <dcoy> Hello
[22:26] <amaroks> i choose on start up screen windows or ubuntu
[22:26] <nannes> heeeeeeeeeelp! Libre Office has changed dictionnary-packages structure after ubuntu11.04 ???? I have ubuntu11.10 and I can't find the pack language-support-writing-it
[22:27] <Fyodorovna> amaroks, you can use the ubuntu live cd to save your docs etc, then reinstall if needed.
[22:27] <amaroks> okay so I will have that option when running the live cd?
[22:28] <Fyodorovna> amaroks, yes, but not a gui just your skills to open that partition from home and save your stuf.
[22:28] <mohd> Why ubuntu is faster then Windows 7 ?
[22:28] <ActionParsnip> mohd: shared libs in RAM
[22:29] <gloop_beep_boop> Qqquick qqquestion: How many hours until 12.04 launches?
[22:29] <Fyodorovna> amaroks, you might be able to fix any problems if you can share them with us as well.
[22:29] <ActionParsnip> gloop_beep_boop: i'd ask in #ubuntu+1
[22:29] <l_r> somewhere in the world it is 26th april, where can one download ubuntu 12.04?
[22:30]  * mohd recently  converted a windows user to try and use ubuntu GNU/Linux.
[22:31] <mohd> l_r: it's not out yet , but the beat 2 is.
[22:31] <amaroks> Fyodorovna: they're too many, gedit for an example the first time i start it it will open then terminate the second time it works, I no longer see Connect to server menu when im on desktop, the dual boot screen changed its look, I still see kde ,kfce, mint when logging in
[22:31] <amaroks> and much more
[22:32] <apwbdjp> amaroks, it happens to me some times (after I lend my machine to someone for a month, for example), I usually just reinstall from 0, or recover from a backup of my /
[22:32] <ActionParsnip> l_r: you can install the beta and upgrade to the release candidate later
[22:32] <Fyodorovna> amaroks, it can get a bit messy if you install all those desktops, probably faster to back up then fix your choice realy.
[22:37] <l_r> how many hours do i have to wait
[22:38] <zykotick9> l_r: the "time" is not generally known beforehand
[22:38] <l_r> zykotick9, but is it a matter of a number of hours < 24?
[22:39] <zykotick9> l_r: well, could be more, it's not even the 26th here in north america
[22:39] <zykotick9> l_r: but most likely, yes, less the 24hours
[22:40] <TheBeast> is precise out yet?
[22:40] <TheBeast> I want precise.
[22:40] <zykotick9> !outyet
[22:41] <DarwinSurvivor> Gah. was going to come in a help some people with support issues. Forgot it was almost release time. :(
[22:41] <DarwinSurvivor> guess the channel will be flooded with "I'm too lazy to hit F5, someone tell me if it's out yet" pretty soon!
[22:42] <staticsafe> !outyet
[22:42] <balrog-k2n> so i have another install in a VM on another machine and both ubuntu-unity-service and dbus-daemon are idle there (0% cpu usage), what can be causing them to use 15% each on this netbook?
[22:42] <balrog-k2n> err, i mean unity-panel-service
[22:42] <DarwinSurvivor> 15% of what? cpu, memory, etc?
[22:42] <balrog-k2n> cpu
[22:43] <balrog-k2n> doing nothing
[22:43] <DarwinSurvivor> balrog-k2n: are you using top or htop?
[22:43] <balrog-k2n> DarwinSurvivor: top
[22:43] <DarwinSurvivor> balrog-k2n: can you check in htop and enable tree view? I've found that to be VERY telling sometimes
[22:43] <taschrant> Hello everybody!  I am new with Ubuntu (thought I'd give Mac OS X a rest).  I have installed the Compiz Fusion settings manager, but the desired effects aren't being shown.
[22:43] <DarwinSurvivor> you'll probably have to install it first (sudo apt-get install htop)
[22:44] <balrog-k2n> DarwinSurvivor: ok, i'll try that
[22:44] <balrog-k2n> the strange thing is it's all normal on another machine
[22:44] <balrog-k2n> in top
[22:45] <ActionParsnip> taschrant: is compiz running?
[22:45] <DarwinSurvivor> taschrant: balrog-k2n what are the specs of the netbook and of the machine running the VM?
[22:45] <DarwinSurvivor> taschrant: sorry, wrong name
[22:45] <DarwinSurvivor> balrog-k2n: ^
[22:45] <taschrant> Nah, it's all good DarwinSurvivor.
[22:46] <thebwt> I am trying to authenticate with sssd and ldap, but cannot login as nonlocal users. when I pam-auth-update and disable sssd everything works. I'm new at working with all of this, but I'm pretty sure all my sssd.conf stuff is right.
[22:46] <taschrant> I believe Compiz is running.
[22:46] <taschrant> I mean, the checkmarks are all there.
[22:46] <balrog-k2n> DarwinSurvivor: the machine running the VM is significantly more potent.. but 15% is still infinitely more than zero
[22:46] <taschrant> I have uninstalled then reinstalled it too.
[22:47] <taschrant> I really want to use the scale effect and show desktop when I assign commands into corners.
[22:47] <taschrant> But none of it is sticking.
[22:47] <DarwinSurvivor> balrog-k2n: true
[22:48] <stupidcomputerus> I am very sorry to ask a simple question
[22:48] <stupidcomputerus> but what app do I use i ubuntu to burn an ISO
[22:48] <zykotick9> stupidcomputerus: from ubuntu or from another OS?
[22:48] <stupidcomputerus> From ubuntu
[22:48] <DarwinSurvivor> stupidcomputerus: I believe you can just right-click it and chose "Burn" or something
[22:48] <stupidcomputerus> Ah I see
[22:48] <ActionParsnip> taschrant: if you press ALT+F2 and run:  compiz --replace     it should make sure compiz is the WM
[22:48] <DarwinSurvivor> stupidcomputerus: just make sure you have a blank disk in the drive first :P
[22:49] <ActionParsnip> stupidcomputerus: brasero is in a default ubuntu install, if it gives you issues, try xfburn
[22:49] <zykotick9> !burniso | stupidcomputerus
[22:50] <taschrant> I have an Apple keyboard...
[22:50] <taschrant> Do I just hit the alt/option then the F2 (the key for brightness)?
[22:51] <ActionParsnip> taschrant: or click the top left icon
[22:51] <kaiowas> press the fn key
[22:51] <kaiowas> and alt - f2
[22:51] <kaiowas> so you have to press 3 keys =)
[22:52] <BeBlue> nas
[22:52] <taschrant> Holy crap, it worked!
[22:53] <taschrant> Thank you very much, kaiowas!
[22:53] <zykotick9> !who > kaiowas
[22:53] <kaiowas> taschrant, np.
[22:53] <taschrant> Okay, I have another question.
[22:53] <taschrant> Is there a way I can get flash in the official Google Chrome application (stable version) to run smoother?
[22:54] <taschrant> I feel like it's very....buggy.
[22:54] <stupidcomputerus> taschrant try chromium?
[22:54] <taschrant> Okay, I'll give Chromium the ol' try.
[22:54] <taschrant> Thanks again!
[22:54] <tiago> Where's 12.04? It was supposed to be released at what time?
[22:54] <stupidcomputerus> btw
[22:55] <stupidcomputerus> it may be more unstable
[22:55] <stupidcomputerus> lol
[22:55] <zykotick9> tiago: the time is not known, sometime tomorrow 26th in North America
[22:55] <stupidcomputerus> flash on linux has classicly been bad for some reason
[22:55] <zykotick9> stupidcomputerus: +1 on flash comment
[22:55] <tiago> It's almost midnight in my country, but no sign of 12.04.
[22:56] <BeBlue> few hours until launch?
[22:56] <kaiowas> tiago, 1am here. But i think its US time?
[22:56] <stupidcomputerus> Are they discontinuing unity?
[22:56] <stupidcomputerus> lol
[22:57] <zykotick9> stupidcomputerus: ubuntu will always use unity - until they change ;)
[22:58] <kaiowas> Will i be able to upgrade my current install as a normal update or will i need to burn it to a cd?
[22:58] <stupidcomputerus> burning an ISO on a laptop
[22:58] <stupidcomputerus> is scary
[22:58] <kaiowas> stupidcomputerus, Jetplane?
[22:58] <stupidcomputerus> yeha :/
[22:58] <sambagirl> scarry?
[22:58] <tiago> If it US time we're doomed.
[22:58] <sambagirl> lol
[22:58] <tiago> Ahaha.
[22:58] <stupidcomputerus> The servers will be clogged anyway
[22:58] <stupidcomputerus> I'd wait
[22:58] <stupidcomputerus> lol
[22:59] <kaiowas> I'm sure they will release it to all the mirror sites?
[23:00] <DarwinSurvivor> kaiowas: If I'm not mistaken, most official mirror sites get it ahead of time, then release on a timer
[23:00] <guest0012983> hi.  if i were logged in as root, for whatever reason, and i want to open a program like my browser not as root, how would I go about this?
[23:01] <kaiowas> DarwinSurvivor, brilliant! :)
[23:01] <guest0012983> is there a command that is the upposite of sudo or gksu?
[23:01] <DarwinSurvivor> guest0012983: su, sudo or gksu
[23:01] <guest0012983> opposite**
[23:01] <david_r> su (username) perhaps?
[23:01] <DarwinSurvivor> guest0012983: they *are* the opposite of themselves
[23:01] <ActionParsnip> guest0012983: sudo -k   will kill the timeout for sude and mean you need to re-eter your password next time you use sudo...
[23:01] <DarwinSurvivor> guest0012983: "sudo -u <username> firefox"
[23:01] <DarwinSurvivor> use gksudo instead of sudo if you want a GUI password prompt
[23:02] <guest0012983> thanks DarwinSurvivor
[23:02] <zykotick9> !gksudo
[23:02] <guest0012983> mucho appreciado
[23:02] <kaiowas> DarwinSurvivor, so gksudo is just a fancier sudo?
[23:02] <e131> whats the difference between gksudo and gksu?
[23:02] <DarwinSurvivor> kaiowas: gksudo is a GUI that *calls* sudo for you :D
[23:02] <zykotick9> kaiowas: it's slightly more then that, it's for running GUI applications a root
[23:03] <zykotick9> e131: on ubuntu, probably nothing.  one uses sudo the other su
[23:03] <DarwinSurvivor> e131: gksu asks for the root password, gksudo asks for *your* password (you must have sudo rights)
[23:03] <kaiowas> zykotick9, but i run gedit with sudo... but then again, im a newbie :).
[23:03] <zykotick9> kaiowas: BAD idea!
[23:03] <kaiowas> !
[23:03] <david_r> I have a multimonitor desktop and I want to play video across screens but I have to use xinerama so I have multiple X screens.  When I maximize a window it only maximizes across one screen.  I couldn't fix that so I decided to try playing video in the root window.  The same part of the video appears in the root window instead of spanning windows like my multi-monitor desktop background.  I have 3 portrait monitors and I want to play video across t
[23:03] <david_r> hem.  Any suggestions?
[23:05] <Sk_> hi, could some1 tell me how to access files from restricted root home files using live-disk?  i have that account's name and password, i just need to copy files so i can reinstall system
[23:05] <Moon_Doggy> anyone good with xmodmap
[23:06] <Moon_Doggy> .Xmodmap:2:  bad add modifier name 'alt', not allowed
[23:07] <Sk_> no1?
[23:07] <Moon_Doggy> no idea
[23:07] <felixk> anyone know when's precise ready?
[23:08] <DarwinSurvivor> balrog-k2n: you still there?
[23:08] <VirtualBlackness> Sk_: You just open the drive/folders and move them
[23:08] <DarwinSurvivor> Moon_Doggy: Not very familiar with xmodmap, but post the config and I'll take a look
[23:09] <Moon_Doggy> keycode 66 = Alt_L
[23:09] <Moon_Doggy> add Alt = Alt_L
[23:09] <Moon_Doggy> keycode 78 = Caps_Lock
[23:09] <Moon_Doggy> ^^^thats it
[23:09] <VirtualBlackness> Sk_: Once you are root in your host environment (live cd) you have root access to whatever you mount.
[23:09] <Sk_> VirtualBlackness: hi, its root folders, i dont have acces to them from live-disk, i need to save files inside home directory of root
[23:09] <VirtualBlackness> Sk_:  Unless it is encrypted or something
[23:09] <Moon_Doggy> i made scroll lock caps lock, and caps lock the left alt
[23:10] <VirtualBlackness> Sk_: you do.
[23:10] <Sk_> VirtualBlackness: eh yes its encrypted :(, but i have password for that account, cant i somehow acces it?
[23:11] <VirtualBlackness> aahhh... thats a wee bit different. I am not really sure on that Sk_.
[23:11] <DarwinSurvivor> Moon_Doggy: Moon_Doggy can you post to pastebin? your copy/paste keeps scrolling away :P
[23:11] <Moon_Doggy> lol
[23:12] <Sk_> VirtualBlackness: k ty
[23:12] <DarwinSurvivor> Moon_Doggy: I think you need to add "Remove Lock = Caps_Lock" to the top
[23:12] <DarwinSurvivor> otherwise it's probably trying to bind 2 functions to the same key
[23:13] <intrader> I have a /home backup done via deja on 10.10. Another laptop has been prepared with 11.10. Attempt to do a full restore using deja fails on account of deja asking for Encryption password. I did not write the backup with encryption, so I don't understand why it wants a password. How do I restore?
[23:13] <Moon_Doggy> DarwinSurvivor, http://pastebin.com/nUHTLg3i
[23:14] <Sk_> VirtualBlackness: then just last question, if i install now ubuntu 12.04 next to 11.10 thats not working, all my files from 11,10 will be left safe or it will format system or something
[23:14] <DarwinSurvivor> Moon_Doggy: you might have better luck in the #xorg channel
[23:14] <DarwinSurvivor> Sk_: is /home on a separate partition?
[23:15] <Sk_> yes
[23:15] <majnoon> <--- working on *buntu :P
[23:16] <Sk_> there are few partitions to choose, i'm just not sure if it will ask me what partition i want to instal it on. cuz when i installed 11 it didnt =.=
[23:16] <taxman> 12.04 is still final beta...
[23:16] <zykotick9> !outyet > taxman
[23:16] <DarwinSurvivor> Moon_Doggy: did the error message say "alt" or "Alt"?
[23:17] <Moon_Doggy> "alt"
[23:17] <wnasich> quit
[23:18] <DarwinSurvivor> Moon_Doggy: weird, because you don't have "alt" IN your config...
[23:18] <DarwinSurvivor> that, and line 2 is a comment
[23:18] <kaiowas> Will i be able to upgrade my current install as a normal update or will i need to burn it to a cd? (11.10 -> 12.04)
[23:18] <Moon_Doggy> DarwinSurvivor, oh sry i added the comments to the pastebin
[23:19] <Sk_> DarwinSurvivor: i have home on diffrent partition, but i'm not sure if it will let me choose new if i will try install 12.04
[23:19] <DaveInTucson> Just upgraded to 10.04 and have a problem with perl.  Lots of old stuff under /usr/local/lib/perl/5.10.0, system looking for it under 5.10.1 (which is not present on my machine)
[23:19] <DarwinSurvivor> Moon_Doggy: oh
[23:19] <Sk_> kaiowas: it will show in update manager, u will be able to press "Update" and get new 12.04 ubuntu
[23:19] <kaiowas> Sk_, great!
[23:20] <haux> Is 12.04 supposed to be released today?
[23:20] <DarwinSurvivor> !outyet | haux
[23:20] <majnoon> kaiowas, when relased (SOON) should be able do dist-upgrade
[23:20] <haux> boo
[23:21] <zykotick9> majnoon: dist-upgrade is NOT related to relase upgrades...
[23:21] <majnoon> meant in "update-manager" or what ever it called
[23:21] <intrader> Anyone, I have a /home backup done via deja on 10.10. Another laptop has been prepared with 11.10. Attempt to do a full restore using deja fails on account of deja asking for Encryption password. I did not write the backup with encryption, so I don't understand why it wants a password. How do I restore?
[23:22] <zykotick9> majnoon: ya, that's not to be confused with dist-upgrade which is an apt-get option (that does something else)
[23:23] <DarwinSurvivor> Moon_Doggy: try "Mod1" instead of "Alt"
[23:23] <DarwinSurvivor> Moon_Doggy: http://lists.debian.org/debian-user/2009/08/msg01992.html
[23:23] <Sk_> zykotick9: hi, my 11.10 faild to update to 12.04 beta and wont boot, some1 told me to use dist-update, u know how to do it?
[23:23] <XiRoN> Hi
[23:24] <XiRoN> How do I run a RAM disk in ubuntu
[23:24] <DarwinSurvivor> XiRoN: please pastebin "mount"
[23:24] <Sk_> zykotick9: *dist-upgrade :)
[23:24] <DarwinSurvivor> !pastebin | XiRoN
[23:24] <kaiowas> hmm there are some new upates out.. apt-tools, a hint that its near?
[23:25] <kaiowas> sorry, apt-utils
[23:25] <guest0012983> DarwinSurvivor, hi, i just tried when logged in as root, sudo nautilus, gksudo nautilus, and gksu nautilus and all three times it still opened as root...  any ideas?  i am trying, when logged in as root, to be able to run programs not as root
[23:25] <tero__> um this might me a stupid question, but any ideas how can i check at what date was my ubuntu installed?
[23:26] <DarwinSurvivor> guest0012983: you need to run "gksudo -u some_username nautilus"
[23:26] <majnoon> zykotick9, but i find whatever it called i NO recommend it in a wubi install :)
[23:26] <zykotick9> majnoon: wubi = fail ;)
[23:26] <guest0012983> okay...  thanks again DarwinSurvivor..  i hopefully wont be back  ;)
[23:26] <majnoon> it not TOO bad
[23:27] <DarwinSurvivor> tero__: "ls -la /" and check the timestamp on "." :P
[23:27] <DarwinSurvivor> guest0012983: good luck
[23:27] <guest0012983> thank you
[23:28] <majnoon> my hybrid tvcard no have linux ANALOG driver :(
[23:29] <DarwinSurvivor> majnoon: ouch. kind of defeats the purpose of a TV card with no alanog :(
[23:29] <majnoon> cable here is analog :(
[23:29] <kaiowas> DarwinSurvivor, isnt it better to check on root? my . displayed april 25.. :)
[23:30] <majnoon> it hvr-1250
[23:31] <DarwinSurvivor> kaiowas: "ls -la /" lists all files/directories in / "the root of the drive". "." in / is / itself
[23:31] <XiRoN> DarwinSurvivor: Okay
[23:31] <DarwinSurvivor> majnoon: all non-analog cable here is encrypted. (and analog is being phased out)
[23:32] <kaiowas> DarwinSurvivor, okey, but it showed todays date for me
[23:32] <scientes> anything special i have to do to get a sata cdrom to work after plugging it in?
[23:32] <scientes> while the computer is on
[23:32] <XiRoN> DarwinSurvivor: http://pastebin.com/tjd71sHZ
[23:32] <DarwinSurvivor> kaiowas: hmm, weird
[23:32] <DarwinSurvivor> scientes: make sure power is plugged in as well
[23:33] <kaiowas> okey, time for bed. NN all!
[23:33] <scientes> DarwinSurvivor, power is def working
[23:33] <XiRoN> DarwinSurvivor: Is that what you wnted?
[23:33] <scientes> i tried to hot plugin a ATA one first, but found the sata after that didn't work
[23:33] <scientes> (yes i know ata isn't hot swappable)
[23:33] <majnoon> can get local dig channels though
[23:33] <shipe> anyone knows how to install GNS3 0.8.2 on ubuntu 12.04
[23:33] <scientes> i havn't gotten a single message in dmesg /. /var/log/kern.log
[23:34] <ActionParsnip> shipe: ask in #ubuntu+1 for Precise support please
[23:34] <scientes> shipe, what is gns3?
[23:34] <ActionParsnip> !info gns3
[23:35] <DarwinSurvivor> XiRoN: yes
[23:35] <Athanasius> The latest ubuntu LTS (12.04 beta2?) doesn't seem to work on my netbook. LiveCD won't even make it to the gfxboot >_<
[23:36] <scientes> Athanasius, does your netbook have a cdrom drive?
[23:36] <DarwinSurvivor> Athanasius: please see #ubuntu+1 for 12.04 support
[23:36] <zykotick9> Athanasius: until tomorrow, 12.04 questions should be asked in #ubuntu+1
[23:36] <alienaut> is new ubuntu will release today?
[23:36] <ActionParsnip> Athanasius: it says in the motd when you joined the channel..
[23:36] <ActionParsnip> alienaut: ask in #ubuntu+1
[23:37] <DarwinSurvivor> XiRoN: I think all you have to do is add "tmpfs		/tmp	tmpfs	nodev,nosuid	0	0
[23:37] <DarwinSurvivor> XiRoN: I think all you have to do is add "tmpfs /tmp tmpfs nodev,nosuid 0 0" to /etc/fstab and reboot
[23:37] <Athanasius> ActionParsnip: .. I joined this channel about 75 days ago.
[23:38] <XiRoN> DarwinSurvivor: Rebooting will clear memory?
[23:38] <DarwinSurvivor> XiRoN: yes, but more importantly it cleanly remounts /tmp
[23:38] <XiRoN> I will lose my contained file?
[23:38] <wylde>  /topic will tell you
[23:38] <DarwinSurvivor> XiRoN: define "contained file"
[23:39] <DoYouKnow> is there a mirrorselect-like app for ubuntu?
[23:39] <XiRoN> DarwinSurvivor: Sorry I should have said I barely know anything about linux.
[23:39] <delusr_> What time will 12.04 be released and what timezone as today is the 26th?
[23:39] <guest0012983> hey DarwinSurvivor
[23:39] <XiRoN> DarwinSurvivor: I'm just trying to get a minecraft server to run on a RAMDISK.
[23:39] <DarwinSurvivor> guest0012983: any luck?
[23:39] <guest0012983> still no go
[23:40] <DarwinSurvivor> XiRoN: the whole server?
[23:40] <guest0012983> root@user1-ubuntu:~# gksudo -u user1 nautilus
[23:40] <guest0012983> No protocol specifiedCould not parse arguments: Cannot open display:
[23:40] <guest0012983> root@user1-ubuntu:~#
[23:40] <XiRoN> DarwinSurvivor: I have root access to a VPN and yes the whole server.
[23:40] <DarwinSurvivor> XiRoN: sorry, i was confused then. usually the only use of a ramdisk is putting /tmp into ram to speed up performance. Please elaborate on your intended use
[23:40] <ActionParsnip> guest0012983: if you have become root, you dont need gksudo
[23:41] <XiRoN> DarwinSurvivor: I want to host a server within ram.
[23:41] <XiRoN> DarwinSurvivor: Not from th HDD
[23:41] <DarwinSurvivor> guest0012983: ah yes, nautilus is both the background AND a filemanager. use "gksudo -u s nautilus --no-desktop"
[23:41] <DoYouKnow> Is there a program for ubuntu that will autoselect mirrors based on their available bandwidth?
[23:41] <guest0012983> when logged into ubuntu as user1, with a root terminal open, the cmd you gave me DarwinSurvivor  worked fine, but not when logged into the gui as root
[23:42] <DarwinSurvivor> guest0012983: did you try it with --no-desktop added?
[23:42] <guest0012983> what i am really hoping to do with this is to run my web browser not as root when i am logged in as root
[23:42] <guest0012983> i am going to give it a try right now DarwinSurvivor
[23:43] <DarwinSurvivor> XiRoN: so you want all the server executables, map files, etc to be stored in ram? why?
[23:43] <wylde> guest0012983:  try not logging in as root? Or maybe 'su user1 firefox' or somesuch? If you insist on running as root.
[23:43] <coul> quit
[23:43] <josefnpat> guest0012983, check out su
[23:43] <josefnpat> guest0012983, you can do a sudo su <username>
[23:44] <XiRoN> DarwinSurvivor: It will make the server SuperFast!
[23:44] <DarwinSurvivor> josefnpat: he's already root, no need for sudo su
[23:44] <josefnpat> DarwinSurvivor, yup, you're right, he can just do su <username>
[23:44] <DarwinSurvivor> XiRoN: not really. where is it going to initially GET the files from?
[23:44] <Moon_Doggy> DarwinSurvivor, ok so capslock is now a "alt" key but i cant use it to alt+tab lol
[23:44] <XiRoN> DarwinSurvivor: Loading the map from HHD takes too long for the amount of players I get.
[23:44] <XiRoN> *HDD
[23:44] <DoYouKnow> how come ubuntu's download of packages is sooooo sloooow?
[23:45] <XiRoN> Darwin: Yeah but onces its loaded into memory its fine.
[23:45] <DarwinSurvivor> XiRoN: are you sure it's the HDD causing the slowdown and not the network, cpu, etc?
[23:45] <balrog-k2n> DarwinSurvivor: sorry, got carried away trying awn etc
[23:45] <balrog-k2n> i'll bbl
[23:45] <Moon_Doggy> DoYouKnow, maybe you connection is slow
[23:45] <XiRoN> Darwin: It wont need to take it from the HDD again.
[23:45] <Moon_Doggy> your
[23:45] <DoYouKnow> Moon_Doggy: no, my connection is fast
[23:45] <wylde> DoYouKnow: maybe because release day is tommorow and there's probably a ton of people downloading todays daily build of 12.04 :)
[23:45] <DoYouKnow> oh
[23:46] <DoYouKnow> yea, probably true
[23:46] <XiRoN> Darwin: I have 4 xeon cores and 2GB RAM, I'd say thats suitable for a minecraft server wouldnt you?
[23:46] <DarwinSurvivor> XiRoN: depends how many connections you have.
[23:47] <DarwinSurvivor> Moon_Doggy: what *does* the new alt key work for at this point?
[23:49] <DarwinSurvivor> XiRoN: did you read http://www.minecraftwiki.net/wiki/Tutorials/Ramdisk_enabled_server ?
[23:49] <XiRoN> thanks darwin, no i didnt
[23:49] <Moon_Doggy> DarwinSurvivor, it works as alt but cant be used in any key combination
[23:49] <Moon_Doggy> weird
[23:50] <DarwinSurvivor> Moon_Doggy: can you pastebin your config again, I think I might have an idea
[23:50] <DarwinSurvivor> Moon_Doggy: can you pastebin your new config, I think I might have an idea
[23:52] <majnoon> kinda "broke" my M$ wireless mouse (but it working BETTER)
[23:52] <Moon_Doggy> DarwinSurvivor,    http://pastebin.com/mRmX738X  and it was that to get it to work
[23:53] <godmachine81> is there a site other than cdimage.ubuntu.com that hosts the daily build iso's for precise?
[23:53] <godmachine81> im looking for another mirror for today's iso image, that is faster than the cdimage.ubuntu.com   if someone can give me a URL i'd greatly appreciate it. thanks
[23:55] <DarwinSurvivor> mark
[23:55] <sente> /etc/motd says "*** System restart required ***" -- how can I figure out what specifically made the system require a reboot?
[23:55] <Lazik> What is so bad about gnome3 that no one wants to use it?
[23:55] <majnoon> ok here what wondering is there a way to get where can get all packages in a list of programs installed then make a script to "copy" setup for apt-get (or other) to make same on a couple machines ??
[23:56] <DarwinSurvivor> sente: typically only a new kernel will require a system restart
[23:56] <godmachine81> nevermind my above question. i found: ftp.heanet.ie
[23:56] <godmachine81> majnoon:: you are wanting a list of all pkgs installed?
[23:56] <wylde> !aptoncd | majnoon
[23:56] <majnoon> yps
[23:56] <sente> DarwinSurvivor: hmm. the kernel hasn't been upgraded, i've gotten this message a few times now
[23:56] <godmachine81> majnoon:: you can do it with dpkg
[23:56] <godmachine81> majnoon:: let me find the appropriate cmd and ill give it to you
[23:56] <sente> where can I go looking in the logs for a potential reason?
[23:57] <godmachine81> i am a funtoo user myself, i would normally just do something like qlist -IC >>/tmp/installed.txt
[23:57] <majnoon> thinking like a shell script
[23:57] <godmachine81> majnoon:: dpkg --get-selections
[23:58] <majnoon> then pipe names into apt-get (or similar)
[23:58] <guest0012983> still not working DarwinSurvivor
[23:58] <godmachine81> majnoon:: you could write a simple script using the cmd i just gave you
[23:58] <DarwinSurvivor> Moon_Doggy: try this http://pastebin.com/cD9nyB1R
[23:58] <guest0012983> i dont think there is a way to go it when you are logged into the gui as root
[23:58] <majnoon> NOT in hurry :)
[23:58] <guest0012983> stinks
[23:59] <majnoon> update inside of wubi NOT a good idea
[23:59] <godmachine81> or just do dpkg --set-selections < /path/to/installed.txt
[23:59] <godmachine81> majnoon:: dpkg --get-selections >> /tmp/installed.txt (get pkg list)
[23:59] <guest0012983> i would like to be able to run Firefox as a regular user when i am logged in as root for pentesting stuff
[23:59] <DarwinSurvivor> guest0012983: in a terminal type "gksu some_user nautilus --no-desktop" and pastebin the output if it doesn't work
[23:59] <godmachine81> majnoon:: dpkg --set-selections < /tmp/installed.txt
[23:59] <Sir_Leto> I've never successfully updated Ubuntu without have some sort of problem later on, always do  a fresh install for new releases