| ScottL | knome, it looks like there is a single test left: alternative 64bit full install | 00:31 |
|---|---|---|
| ScottL | knome, are you running that now or is someone else? | 00:31 |
| ScottL | oh, nevermind, i understand what you typed now | 00:32 |
| ScottL | eh, i'm still going to install because i want to play with xubuntu 12.04 anyways :P | 00:32 |
| knome | heh | 00:38 |
| knome | feel free to | 00:38 |
| pleia2 | ScottL: you doing the 64-alt? | 00:38 |
| pleia2 | I'm burning now | 00:38 |
| knome | pleia2, err, they are DONE | 00:38 |
| pleia2 | ah! | 00:38 |
| * knome did 6 tests today | 00:39 | |
| pleia2 | they weren't done when I started downloading :) | 00:39 |
| knome | heh | 00:39 |
| pleia2 | one wubi desktop still need to be done? | 00:39 |
| ScottL | pleia2, not yet, still downloading (after i got my daughter to stop watching netflix) | 00:39 |
| knome | two wubi's | 00:39 |
| pleia2 | an, 386 too | 00:39 |
| pleia2 | ah | 00:39 |
| ScottL | knome, i'm very curious to see how the clock plugin behaves and see if ubuntu studio should do the same | 00:40 |
| knome | ScottL, :) | 00:41 |
| pleia2 | alright, I think I'll do iso testing tomorrow instead | 00:41 |
| pleia2 | because I have 100 million things to do otherwise | 00:41 |
| knome | yup, sounds sensible | 00:41 |
| knome | awwh | 00:42 |
| knome | the one time i download something like i shouldn't, somebody has *completely* messed the thing up | 00:43 |
| knome | wrong accent on band name, all songs misnamed, and the vinyl rip pops more than my say what. | 00:43 |
| knome | ok, i'm off to sleep | 00:59 |
| knome | see you tomorrow | 00:59 |
| Unit193 | 'Night. | 01:00 |
| malaverdiere | Hello * | 02:28 |
| malaverdiere | I have experienced two total freezes on my xubuntu system | 02:28 |
| malaverdiere | I'm on 12.04 | 02:29 |
| malaverdiere | I am not sure how to identify the source of the bug | 02:30 |
| malaverdiere | but I would like to contribute the data for bugfix | 02:30 |
| malaverdiere | BTW, I am getting a 500 on https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Xubuntu/Bugs/PrecisePangolin | 02:30 |
| astraljava | Aww... you guys! :) | 04:36 |
| * astraljava can feel the love | 04:36 | |
| astraljava | Oh, oops! | 04:41 |
| Unit193 | You joined a channel. | 04:46 |
| astraljava | Yeah, somehow I thought I had already. | 04:56 |
| astraljava | Oh well, at least it happened still during the p cycle. :D | 04:56 |
| knome | pleia2, in addition to https://wiki.ubuntu.com/PrecisePangolin/ReleaseNotes/Xubuntu, the article in xubuntu.org should receive the *same* love, or at least before we publish we want it to be in line with the page on wiki | 09:44 |
| knome | pleia2, at least the shortcuts are shown in a different way yeah, but we should see if the texts match | 09:45 |
| knome | + how has the mailing list gone so unpleasant? | 09:45 |
| knome | i mean, people all telling "YOU BROKE IT IDIOT" if they say they are using compiz/insert-pkg-name-here | 09:46 |
| skaet | knome, your image testing is looking pretty much done, and in reasonable shape for Xubuntu, can you sign off on https://wiki.ubuntu.com/PrecisePangolin/ReleaseManifest that they've been tested now. :) | 10:01 |
| skaet | we'll then copy them to final as prep for tomorrow. | 10:01 |
| skaet | (unless there's something that's not on the tester..... ) | 10:02 |
| * skaet crosses fingers | 10:02 | |
| knome | skaet, done, thanks for the heads up :) | 10:04 |
| skaet | thanks knome. :) | 10:04 |
| * knome did only 6 tests yesterday O:) | 10:05 | |
| knome | skaet, btw, what is there we can do with the status of xubuntu wubi? | 10:06 |
| knome | skaet, i don't think that's been tested too much lately | 10:07 |
| skaet | knome, best talk to ev in release channel on what's possible. | 10:08 |
| knome | okay, thanks, i will get to that in the Q cycle | 10:09 |
| * knome thinks that even the alternate images are a bit too much while there *are* reasons to keep them too | 10:09 | |
| skaet | knome, I think a session to review the manditory test cases for Xubuntu at UDS is probably appropriate as well in general. | 10:09 |
| knome | skaet, i'm not attending UDS in person, but i agree | 10:09 |
| knome | skaet, we definitely need to go through the testcases too | 10:09 |
| knome | skaet, they are referring to login sounds, but we *never* had a login sound... | 10:10 |
| * skaet nods | 10:18 | |
| skaet | knome, able to attend some of the sessions remotely if we schedule them in US morning? | 10:18 |
| knome | skaet, probably | 10:22 |
| knome | but then again, most probably not video/phoneconf | 10:23 |
| knome | skaet, we could just sit down with astraljava IRL someday and think what to do. :) | 10:23 |
| knome | bbl | 10:23 |
| skaet | knome, yup. we can do that. Be good to have some of the other QA folks in the discussion though too. :) | 10:33 |
| Schrodinger`Cat | i just upgrade my 11.10 Xubuntun | 10:35 |
| Schrodinger`Cat | tu | 10:35 |
| Schrodinger`Cat | to 12.04 | 10:35 |
| Schrodinger`Cat | try to get xfce 4.10 with the ppa | 10:35 |
| Schrodinger`Cat | after i disable the ppa for to go to 12.04 normal Xubuntu | 10:36 |
| Schrodinger`Cat | but my keyboard shortcut dont works :/ | 10:36 |
| Schrodinger`Cat | what can i do ? | 10:37 |
| ochosi | Schrodinger`Cat: have you tried to re-set any of your shortcuts by hand? | 10:38 |
| Schrodinger`Cat | yes | 10:40 |
| Schrodinger`Cat | its not like before | 10:40 |
| ochosi | have you downgraded all xfce packages? | 10:40 |
| ochosi | (and rebooted) | 10:40 |
| Schrodinger`Cat | i do sudo ppa-purge ppa:mrpouit/ppa | 10:42 |
| Schrodinger`Cat | and sudo apt-get update | 10:42 |
| Schrodinger`Cat | and sudo apt-get upgrade | 10:42 |
| Schrodinger`Cat | and sudo apt-get upgrade --fi-missing --> (nothing to do) | 10:42 |
| Schrodinger`Cat | fix-missing | 10:42 |
| Schrodinger`Cat | and i have reboot | 10:44 |
| ochosi | haven't used ppa-purge before tbh | 10:49 |
| ochosi | but i'd manually check the packages via synaptic | 10:49 |
| mr_pouit | (downgrading between xfce releases is really never a good idea...) | 11:05 |
| astraljava | skaet: I _am_ the QA contact person, so that'd be awesome. | 12:01 |
| skaet | astraljava, will you be at UDS? | 12:01 |
| skaet | or should we set something up at another time? | 12:01 |
| astraljava | skaet: No I won't, I just started at a new job so knew in advance that I wouldn't have spare time for that. | 12:03 |
| astraljava | But my working hours are so that most often I will get out of work when your morning is just starting. | 12:03 |
| astraljava | skaet: Don't recall the UDS schedule, when were you planning to have that session? | 12:04 |
| skaet | astraljava, hasn't been scheduled yet, so some flexibility still. ;) will coord with you on it next week. | 12:04 |
| astraljava | skaet: Sounds good. Next week I'll be really busy, so probably best to use email for that. | 12:07 |
| skaet | astraljava, coolio. can do. | 12:07 |
| * skaet hopes to be less busy next week. ;) | 12:07 | |
| astraljava | Don't we all... :) | 12:19 |
| astraljava | Release week is the worst. :D | 12:20 |
| astraljava | But this is the first time when I've had a tough schedule outside of Ubuntu work, so it's been extra tough for me. | 12:20 |
| astraljava | Why do I see #xubuntu-unregged in the channel information on #xubuntu? | 12:23 |
| ochosi | knome, pleia2: please review the unity-article on xubuntu.org, it would be nice if you could approve/publish it today, so that it doesn't go out on the same day as the release post | 12:30 |
| ochosi | knome, pleia2: feel free to alter whatever is not understandable/clear or add stuff if you think something is missing | 12:31 |
| malaverdiere | Good morning * | 12:33 |
| malaverdiere | I showed up yesterday about a total freeze, but I think everyone was away | 12:34 |
| malaverdiere | I wanted to know how I can get data to help with a bug report | 12:34 |
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| astraljava | malaverdiere: I'm not sure exactly, but I'd say you should attach the main logs into the bug report; Xorg.0.log, syslog and kern.log from /var/log | 12:35 |
| malaverdiere | I'll get those. Any other? I remember looking at dmesg and finding nothing special in there | 12:36 |
| astraljava | It's hard to pin-point without knowing any details, but then someone else might have a known suspect or something. | 12:36 |
| astraljava | I'm not on a linux-machine, so can't take a look at the directory for any additional log file. But it's alright to file the bug first, the person who triages the bug will know what to ask for. | 12:37 |
| skaet | knome, astraljava - will your announce for 12.04 be placed at http://xubuntu.org/news/12.04-release tomorrow? (same pattern as yesterday) | 13:07 |
| skaet | lol | 13:07 |
| skaet | s/yesterday/last release/ | 13:07 |
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| Schrodinger`Cat | hey | 15:55 |
| Schrodinger`Cat | now its better to download Xubuntu 12.04 beta2 or the daily build ? | 15:57 |
| holstein | Schrodinger`Cat: you can assume the beta will "work".. assuming hte daily is working, you can argue which is "best" | 16:01 |
| holstein | i would personally get the daily | 16:01 |
| pleia2 | ochosi: s/derivatives/flavors | 16:03 |
| pleia2 | ochosi: I think you want to mention somewhere that Greybird is a shimmer project | 16:05 |
| Schrodinger`Cat | holstein: thanks | 16:06 |
| pleia2 | ochosi: other than that, looks good, I was worried it would feel off-topic but I really like how you tied it into the flavors not competing, well done :) | 16:07 |
| GridCube | Schrodinger`Cat, daily | 16:10 |
| holstein | unless the daily is not working for some reason | 16:11 |
| holstein | i would get the daily with the expectation of getting one of the others if theres a problem | 16:11 |
| Schrodinger`Cat | ok | 16:16 |
| Schrodinger`Cat | if i see problems i will try to give to you for help another users :) | 16:17 |
| Schrodinger`Cat | i love this linux distribution :) | 16:17 |
| GridCube | daily works here purrfectly | 16:21 |
| holstein | yeah, its one of those things thats hardly ever a problem.. until it is... if you've got bandwidth restrictions or time contraints | 16:24 |
| pleia2 | we'll be in trouble if it's a problem today :) | 16:33 |
| pleia2 | they're actually still doing some rebuilds of the 25 images | 16:33 |
| holstein | hehe... theres still time for problems :) | 16:34 |
| pleia2 | s/25 images/April 25th images | 16:34 |
| holstein | better today than tomorrow | 16:34 |
| pleia2 | indeed! | 16:34 |
| pleia2 | skaet: sorry, didn't see your note, yes | 17:02 |
| pleia2 | http://xubuntu.org/news/12-04-release | 17:02 |
| skaet | Thanks pleia2! :) | 17:02 |
| pleia2 | knome: I can review release notes and the post, but I don't know enough to help write anything else | 17:02 |
| ochosi | pleia2: thanks! and thanks for reading | 17:13 |
| ochosi | pleia2: well i dunno, it's not that important to me to stress the shimmer part, after all i'm part of the xubuntu team now, which i wasn't "back then" | 17:14 |
| pleia2 | ochosi: ok | 17:14 |
| pleia2 | skaet: oops, just realized your link has a . and mine has a - (we can't have . in wordpress, so it converts to -) | 17:15 |
| pleia2 | ochosi: also some linebreak issues between a couple of the paragraphs (they get squished together) | 17:15 |
| pleia2 | looks like just betwen the first and second paragraphs under "Try for yourself!" | 17:16 |
| pleia2 | ochosi: any way you can put a space between each of the screenshots so it's easier to tell there are 4 of them? (no big deal if not) | 17:16 |
| * pleia2 done for real now | 17:17 | |
| astraljava | Oh gosh, new amd64 images again. Yay. | 17:45 |
| skaet | astraljava, they're needed to fix a multiarch issue, when a 32 bit lib is being loaded when it shouldn't | 17:53 |
| skaet | this showed up in music player, which could be embarrassing. | 17:54 |
| astraljava | skaet: Thanks. :) Of course it's better to be caught now before the release. :) | 17:54 |
| skaet | For testing, all that's going to be needed is check that the scenarios from the bug work now, and then spot test a few of the other tests for sanity. | 17:54 |
| skaet | The existing images, and results are our backup if anything is wrong. | 17:55 |
| skaet | we're just trying to get it a little bit better, and the bug might show up more than we'd like. | 17:55 |
| * skaet plans on turning on her music player.... ;) | 17:55 | |
| astraljava | skaet: A-ha, ok so what would you suggest we should test now? Or should we wait a little until we hear more info? | 17:55 |
| skaet | astraljava, do some basic testing now. | 17:56 |
| ochosi | pleia2: ok, added some spaces | 17:56 |
| skaet | (if the images have landed) | 17:56 |
| ochosi | pleia2: with respect to the paragraphs, feel free to add linebreaks | 17:56 |
| pleia2 | k, I'll do that now | 17:56 |
| ochosi | pleia2: g2g now, you can also publish it if you think it's done :) | 17:56 |
| pleia2 | if you're out of it | 17:56 |
| pleia2 | yes yes, I shall publish now | 17:56 |
| ochosi | ok, thanks a lot! | 17:57 |
| pleia2 | thanks! | 17:57 |
| ochosi | bbl | 17:57 |
| astraljava | skaet: Yeah it started downloading. | 17:57 |
| skaet | astraljava, The bugs that triggered this respin are: bug 987383, bug 899001 | 17:57 |
| pleia2 | http://xubuntu.org/news/xubuntu-artwork-update-unity-support/ \o/ | 17:57 |
| ubottu | Launchpad bug 899001 in sessioninstaller (Ubuntu) "duplicate for #987383 gst-install wants to install i386-version of codec packages on amd64" [High,Fix released] https://launchpad.net/bugs/899001 | 17:57 |
| ubottu | Launchpad bug 899001 in sessioninstaller (Ubuntu) "gst-install wants to install i386-version of codec packages on amd64" [High,Fix released] https://launchpad.net/bugs/899001 | 17:57 |
| * pleia2 shares on the twitter | 17:58 | |
| skaet | That's the scenario to check is working now. | 17:58 |
| astraljava | skaet: Ok thanks, I'll get on it. | 17:58 |
| skaet | great! Thanks. | 17:58 |
| skaet | shout out in #ubuntu-release channel if surprises show up. | 17:58 |
| knome | skaet, yeah, will release on that url if needed :) | 17:58 |
| astraljava | I will. | 17:58 |
| skaet | thanks knome | 17:59 |
| knome | actually | 17:59 |
| knome | it seems wordpress doesn't want us to use a dot | 18:00 |
| knome | so 12-04-release | 18:00 |
| knome | skaet, ^ | 18:00 |
| pleia2 | knome: my plan is to make some screenshots that are pretty much identical to ones we have now and upload them tonight | 18:05 |
| knome | pleia2, can you upload them to somewhere else or send me via email, i need to check if the plugin works now as expected | 18:05 |
| pleia2 | knome: ok, will do | 18:05 |
| knome | (should, after update, but i don't want you to have to go through it) | 18:05 |
| pleia2 | thanks :) | 18:05 |
| knome | np | 18:05 |
| knome | skaet, can you confirm xubuntu.org/news/12-04-release is ok | 18:06 |
| skaet | knome, yup that's fine from my perpective. Just need to know where. | 18:10 |
| skaet | so the announce can reference it. :) | 18:10 |
| knome | skaet, yeah, that will be the url | 18:10 |
| skaet | coolio. :) | 18:10 |
| knome | great | 18:13 |
| astraljava | sweet | 18:23 |
| pleia2 | goodness the twitter natives are already restless about release timing | 20:55 |
| ochosi | knome: not sure you also read the blog-post about unity-support, but since pleia2 was kind enough to go over it i thought it's fine to publish it | 21:59 |
| ochosi | pleia2: i think we should show the name of the post-author somewhere | 22:28 |
| ochosi | pleia2: and maybe even add an option to display the function in the xubuntu team | 22:28 |
| pleia2 | I think it's a theme thing | 22:28 |
| ochosi | yes, it should be easy to add that in wordpress | 22:28 |
| ochosi | knome: ^ ;) | 22:29 |
| ochosi | i mostly wanted to ask you about your opinion on that | 22:29 |
| pleia2 | but yeah, post author would be nice | 22:29 |
| ochosi | i mean people can easily guess that i write most artwork articles | 22:29 |
| ochosi | but with other articles it's less clear | 22:29 |
| ochosi | and i think it's still important to see who's saying what | 22:29 |
| ochosi | otherwise we'd consequently have to s/I/we in all posts... | 22:30 |
| GridCube | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qRNYo6gMhTg | 23:19 |
| ochosi | strange, looks like he's using an older version, xfce4-mixer is still installed | 23:24 |
| GridCube | yes | 23:25 |
| GridCube | its weird | 23:25 |
| GridCube | the wallpaper is also wrong | 23:26 |
| GridCube | :/ | 23:26 |
| ochosi | yes, well as i said, an older version | 23:26 |
| ochosi | that's the 11.10 wallpaper, it was in 12.04 until i don't know when | 23:26 |
| GridCube | dunno | 23:27 |
| ochosi | night everyone! (and happy release!) | 23:27 |
| GridCube | but its a nice review anyway, although he is missing the nice sound control and other stuff | 23:27 |
| GridCube | :) | 23:27 |
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