[04:44] what is Lubuntu 12.04 going to be released? [04:44] when* [04:51] !outyet [04:51] Nope! Ubuntu 12.04 is scheduled for release sometime on April 26th. You can party in #ubuntu-release-party while you're waiting! [04:52] By end of the 26th UTC time. [04:54] I would do-release-upgrade -d [04:54] and make a small apt-get dist-upgrade :-) [04:54] before it gets released [04:54] D: [04:54] i'm talking about lubuntu tho [04:55] ...And? [04:56] is it going to be released today also? [04:56] Ubuntu, Lubuntu - What's the difference? [04:56] the L :P [04:57] you know the answer then ;) [04:57] so i guess that is a yes? [04:57] yes [04:57] ok thanks [04:57] you better change your pants and trousers and get ready for the party! [04:58] lubuntu better be good or else... [05:42] Hm, is there a keyboard shortcut for maximising windows? I'm having a real hard time finding it... [05:46] drlaban: try alt space - think the menu open then, there you will see which letter it is [05:46] (not sure, as i am just on an phone right now i cannot try) [05:47] maybe ctrl+space - and having the window you wanna maximize in focus, sure thing [05:47] sva: Well, it did indeed bring the window menu down and lo and behold, Alt-space -> X, it is [05:47] :) great [05:48] sva: Also, at more or less the same time I found out how to write a keybind for it as well. Two good things. [05:49] yes there is that xml file somewhere... there you can write keybinds yourself [05:50] sva: .config/openbox/lubuntu-rc.xml on my box. Had to do some wiki crawling to figure out what command it was that toggled the window size. [05:52] btw is there a keybind to make a window bigger and smaller? [05:52] (need to look it up later, when i am on my machine) [05:53] sva: You mean like incrementally growing/shrinlking the window? [05:56] drlaban: ack [05:57] sva: Can't say I found any action to support that. There are quite a few window actions but not like that it seems: http://openbox.org/wiki/Help:Actions [05:58] okay, np. was just coming into my mind by "keybind for modify window size" - something nice-to-have :) [05:59] tnx for the link! havent seen that one before :) [05:59] sva: Sure thing === veemon_ is now known as veemon === Jacky is now known as JackyAlcine === JackyAlcine is now known as Jacky === jalcine- is now known as Jacky [10:41] 12.04 release? or not yet? [10:41] Ubuntu will be released by the end of 26th, UTC. [10:41] thanks [10:42] mian release is out.... but not offically yet [10:42] people are really shaking here like drugs abusers without their daily fixies ;) [10:42] http://releases.ubuntu.com/precise/ [10:42] !isitout [10:42] Nope! Ubuntu 12.04 is scheduled for release sometime on April 26th. You can party in #ubuntu-release-party while you're waiting! [10:42] That's basically a RC. [10:43] release says 26th [10:43] download the latest daily, and do dist-upgrade ;) [10:43] Yep, and that's still here. [10:43] and you have the release [10:43] last release was downloadable from other links like sofpedia about 1 hour before official release [10:44] I'm already of 12.04 any way [10:45] !cookie [10:45] Wow! You're such a great helper, you deserve a cookie! [10:46] ok ok.......... I'll shut up and eat cookie [11:05] hi [11:05] hi [11:05] hey vuth_ [11:05] sup half duplex [11:05] did u see my question on the other room? [11:06] no sorry [11:06] looking [11:06] was wondering if lubuntu 1204 be released same time as ubuntu 1204 [11:06] About 12.04? [11:06] i just dont want to waste bandwidth [11:06] yes [11:06] It will, I answered you already [11:06] I just pointed you out to the proper support channel for lubuntu as well [11:07] vuth_, you may also want to hang in #ubuntu-offtopic [11:07] im just looking for a netbook OS...that doesnt take long to boot up...LM11 takes close to 2 minutes to boot up..ubuntu around 1.5 [11:07] kk [11:07] I use lubuntu on desktop and atom based netbook [11:08] still ubuntu based..... so familiar [11:09] n450 :P [11:26] 12.04 is coming: http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/lubuntu/releases/12.04/release/ [11:26] starting torrents :) [11:28] already on it [11:28] tracker isn't running yet [11:29] it is [11:29] at least for lubuntu-12.04-alternate-amd64.iso [11:30] arrrr [11:30] I waiting on desktop [11:30] i386 [11:38] o!o!o!o!o! [11:42] wooo [11:43] \o/\o/o/ [11:45] you guys use 32 or 64bit? [11:45] 64 [11:48] Bonjour [11:49] pour information, sur le site lubuntu.fr, les boutons pour le téléchargement indiquent 12.04 alors que les liens pointent sur les versions 11.10 [11:50] !fr [11:50] Ce canal est en anglais uniquement. Si vous avez besoin d'aide ou voulez discuter en français, veuillez taper /join #ubuntu-fr ou /join #ubuntu-qc. Merci. [11:50] sorry [11:51] FYI on ubuntu.fr website -> download, buttons are showing 12.04 version but links point to 11.10 ones [11:55] you should put the language of the channel in the subject. I came from lubuntu.fr website -> help -> chat which show #lubuntu channel so I was thinking that itś still french [11:56] wooo, 16 peers already on 32 bit desktop :D [11:56] first download finished: lubuntu-12.04-alternate-amd64.iso [11:57] err, so fast :D [11:58] so.. is it a release? XD Really? can't believe it [12:06] https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Lubuntu/Announcement/12.04 [12:43] ubuntu 12.04 is out..when can we expect Lubuntu? [12:47] now [12:47] here: http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/lubuntu/releases/12.04/release/ [12:47] use the torrents [13:03] any links for the new release? [13:05] here: http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/lubuntu/releases/12.04/release/ [13:05] use the torrents [13:40] does lubuntu havea dvd? [13:42] Kalidarn: doesnt need one.. you can burn the iso to a DVD if you need for some reason [13:42] yeah but they've got the alternate and desktop discs [13:42] i used to like having the dvd so i had both [13:43] guess i can just install lubuntu from my ubuntu or kubuntu dvd [13:43] Kalidarn: its all open, you can literally do what you like [13:44] make a DVD like i suggested, and you have a DVD [13:50] is there a way to stop the annoying xscreensaver lock from popping up when I bring my laptop out of suspend? === CTtechguy_ is now known as CTtechguy === sagaci_ is now known as sagaci [14:21] gordonjcp: i use a different locker.. i removed the screensaver [14:22] holstein: ah, I want the screensaver but not the locker [14:22] is lubuntu 12.04 released?? [14:22] gordonjcp: they are connected AFAIK [14:22] yes: http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/lubuntu/releases/12.04/release/ [14:22] use the torrents [14:22] holstein: yes, but I just don't want the lock activated when I suspend [14:23] gordonjcp: should be in the GUI... dont lock when going to standby? something like that [14:23] tichodroma that link is not working [14:23] a_b0y, maybe too many people try to download 12.04 :) [14:24] what version of LXDE is it using [14:25] I got 12.04 in 3 minutes using the .torrent file [14:25] :) [14:25] a_b0y: try and be patient, and keep trying.. [14:25] or, torrent :) [14:26] which one is the torrent link? [14:27] holstein: I don't see it [14:27] I've copied the torrents for your convenience: http://www.dev-random.de/mirror/ [14:27] its going to take over 2 hours for me to d/l [14:28] a_b0y: again, patience will help.. maybe the speed will pick up for you :) [14:29] what is the difference between the desktop and alternate iso? [14:29] alternate has no graphical installer [14:29] a_b0y: alternate is a text-only installer, allows for specialist-installations [14:30] oh ok [14:30] also, the Desktop ISOs (i think) can be turned into Live discs [14:30] i had no idea ubuntu still supported ppc [14:31] i thought they dropped ppc ages agp [14:31] !ppc [14:31] PowerPC. Formerly used by Apple for the Macintosh line of computers. Variants are now used in popular gaming consoles. PPC was a fully supported Ubuntu architecture up to and including edgy. It is now a community port, see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/PowerPCFAQ [14:31] Kalidarn: ^ [14:31] its a community port, i dont think its maintained actively [14:32] i guess it's used on ibm machines [14:32] of some sort [14:32] (i also know a lot of programs die on PPC) [14:32] (and some don't even build) [14:34] is lubuntu using lxde version 0.3.2.1 ? [14:48] lubuntu would probably be perfect if google chrome was switched with firefox :) === mh0- is now known as mh0 [14:50] firefox is gnomey though, chrome isnt afaik [14:51] (or at the least, ffox is GTK) [14:55] does google pay canonical to put google chrome as default browser and homepage like it pays firefox $300 million to have google as the default homepage? [14:56] i think you're gleaning incorrect information [14:56] the ffox default homepage isnt a google.com page [14:56] its a page with google search *embedded* [14:56] http://www.canonical.com/about-canonical/contact [14:57] and having said this, i highly doubt google pays canonical for this, canonical doesnt financially fund the non-GNOME derivatives of ubuntu [14:57] (so therefore, its the communities and groups which develop those flavors of Ubuntu's decision) [14:57] * EvilResistance knows this is the case in Kubuntu [15:01] oh [15:01] i don't trust google with my privacy [15:02] a_b0y: you dont have to use any of the software.. you can choose to remove, or install what you like [15:02] true [15:02] i'm going to do that when i finish installing [15:03] i just wish ubuntu made a smartphone o/s to replace android [15:03] ubuntu *is* that OS... its just not cool with the vendors to give you control to do that [15:04] do the vendors have to pay google to use google android? [15:05] you'd need to ask the vendor in question and/or google [15:05] im just saying, my phone does not allow me to choose to run ubuntu on it [15:05] but, theres nothing about ubuntu or linux that makes that a non-possibility [15:06] w youtube videos of people installing ubuntu on their smartphone somehow [15:06] i saw* [15:06] sure... some of them can be hacked to do it.. but there are consequences [15:06] and the vendors dont have to support you anymore, nor the carriers [15:08] i peronally dont hae a tin-foil hat.. i just have a phone thats locked down due to a buisness decision... [15:08] a_b0y: Let's hope B2G becomes a consumer reality quick. That's a pretty interesting and real alternative to Android as well. [15:08] consumer OS* [15:09] what is b2g? [15:09] Boot2Gecko, Mozillas mobile device OS-suggestion [15:09] oh [15:10] I'd pay a bit to get a hold of a developer phone but I have no idea of where to get one. [15:12] is this lunbuntu long term support? [15:14] Well, Ubuntu (which this is based on) says, when i run: cat /etc/issue.net, "Ubuntu 12.04 LTS" [15:15] on wikipedia it says there is no long term support for ubuntu http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lubuntu [15:15] Maybe that's "lxterminal in the Lubuntu I'm running, says..." [15:15] lubuntu* [15:17] Well, I'm not certain that Lubuntu is LTS, but as said Ubuntu is. Look at a_b0y: Look at http://www.ubuntu.com/download/desktop under the "Start download" button [15:17] yeah [15:23] Lubuntu 12.04 is not LTS. We do not have enough devs. [15:24] the security updates of kernel etc., will continue to be offered by 'main'. [15:39] hmm what was the command line command to get it to update distribution version [15:39] update-manager-core? [15:39] oh update-manager that's right [15:40] very good lubuntu 12.04 [15:42] is it worth reinstalling or should the upgrade from oneric work smoothly [15:52] Kalidarn: the update manager should spot there is a new release (it will say Ubuntu, but it knows to upgrade Lubuntu) [15:55] yeah i ssumed so [15:56] its just i configured that oneiric system quite a lot and hope it doesn't break anything :) [16:12] i was wondering if i could get some help with the upgrade of lubuntu. it says a new version is available. its called "new ubuntu release 12.04 lts". will that still be lubuntu afterwards or will it replace lubuntu with ubuntu? [16:14] yes [16:14] it will use lubuntu-desktop for the upgrade [16:14] ah. i was not sure about that. thank you [16:15] I bet Kubuntu behaves same way [16:15] and Xubuntu too ;) [16:15] i wouldnt know really [16:16] me either, but I love assuming :D === danstone1 is now known as danstoner [16:53] when you click on that "update the installer" how long does that usually take [16:54] Kalidarn: depends on your computer, the speed of your internet connection & how hammered the servers are (they're absolutely hammered at the moment!). [16:55] yeah i assumed that [16:55] i wonder if it is critical [16:56] the installer update for a clean install is not essential unless you have 32bit programmes (e.g. skype) on a 64 bit system. [16:56] oh okay nope [16:57] i just want a fresh install on an old pc [16:57] i like the new buttons they're nice and clean [16:57] ubuntu sure knows how to do good themes [16:57] okay, if you have the iso, you can skip that & grab it once the servers have stopped melting :) [16:58] yeah that's what i was going to do phillw :P [16:58] im getting the kubuntu dvds i386/amd64 and ubuntu dvds off bitorrent because it's a lot faster [16:58] and i have the upload, so i'll help seed [16:59] unfortunately those never make their way off cdimage onto aarnet :P [16:59] It would be too complicated for me to host the update new version on the secondary server. [16:59] i thought about waiting, and getting it at uni :) [16:59] 100mbit link direct to the mirror [17:00] Kalidarn: the secondary server is also on 100Mb/s link. I was getting ~ 11,000 kBs when I did the last zsyncs from the master server. [17:01] heh [17:02] i do hope this works this time last time i ran the installer got some grub error and it bailed [17:05] Kalidarn: it should do, the devs had a sprint week on ubiquity a while back. There are some minor niggles with time-zone slection but that seems to be that the TZ server is also struggling. [17:05] oh that worked perfectly :) [17:06] it is surprising i think 12.04 has really got a lot of new users [17:06] previous releases haven't crippled the servers like this :) [17:07] that was the general feed back during testing - hence thesii.org mirroring the lubuntu images :D [17:07] I had hoped to have a torrent server installed on it in time, but RL got in the way. [17:08] are you part of the team? [17:08] you kind of sound like it :) [17:09] I'm coordinator for the QA team, and also help out on the wiki pages when Chris is not available / has too much to do. [17:09] ah fair enough [17:10] it's been a hectic last few weeks as we approached D-Day :) [17:10] heh no doubt [17:10] and as ubuntu is one of the most popular distros it gets a lot of attention [17:10] he he, lubuntu does not too badly according the stats :) [17:11] *buntu is what i meant [17:12] as not any specific variant [17:12] as we are family, we share resources; so our lubuntu testers will help other teams & *buntu will help us with problems we have [17:12] yeah [17:12] well it's all the same distribution :P [17:14] i think my kubuntu system i'll use the dvd media for update, don't want to stress the servers anymore than they are [17:14] stress them! [17:14] they only live for these days! [17:14] :D [17:15] bioterror: one the -release noted that it looks like a DDOS attack on release day :) [17:16] :D [17:16] yeah [17:16] people hammerin ubuntu.com all the time [17:16] need some better distributed apt protocol [17:16] instead of ftp or http [17:16] hammering f5 for refresh :D [17:16] i remember reading you could run apt off freenet [17:16] which is kind of distributed [17:16] I get my images early, one advantage of being a tester :D [17:17] heh [17:17] you can upgrade from alternate image. [17:18] *buntu spots you have an installer iso in & asks if you want to use it. [17:18] I've never done it, but it is evidently possible. [17:18] i kind of which lubuntu had a dvd iso, like ubuntu-12.04-dvd-amd64.iso [17:18] hey bioterror what's up man [17:18] allowing for text, server, desktop etc [17:18] these days i don't actually have too many CDRs [17:19] dvds are the same price :P [17:19] reflexrg, nothing much. pondering if I should open word and try to finish one essay :D [17:19] I have about 5 CDRWs and 5 DVDRWs - saves me running out of blanks :) [17:20] is ubuntu doing the commercial printing? [17:20] again like they used to, i remember in highschool... back in grade 10 [17:20] :D [17:20] some guy brought 100s of ubuntu cds in [17:20] and shared them [17:20] when was that? [17:20] mmm 5.04 i think [17:20] Kalidarn, it was awesome time [17:20] could have been 5.10 [17:20] i remember i was using breezy badger at the time [17:20] yeah, Ubuntu still hand out Ubuntu CD's. The UK LoCo have an allocation, [17:21] those can be ordered for some happenings [17:21] like a demo scene happening [17:21] unfortunately our campus uses RHEL [17:21] on all the campus systems anyway [17:22] that's becouse of support [17:22] yeah but it's horribly out of date. [17:22] tried using my vim configs, and vim had a cry my plugins required a newer version of vim :( [17:22] My best buy from the ubuntu-shop was the 4GB stick with ubuntu allready on it & branded. It has saved my bacon a few times now :D [17:23] does ubuntu automatically align partitions properly now? [17:23] like for ssd drives [17:23] i remember i had to manually partition that so that it would pass http://www.techpowerup.com/articles/other/157 [17:25] Kalidarn: it should, they did a lot of work on the installer. [17:26] yeah i haven't tried it recently [17:29] woot it worked that time [17:29] not sure what that grub error was about [17:30] mm android update 4.0.4 i swear every device is updating in my house today all at the same time [17:31] as 12.04 is an LTS for most, a heck of a lot of testing has gone into it. [17:31] yeah [17:31] im looking forward to it. i'm quite disillusioned with apple [17:31] mountain lion certainly does not look impressive in the slightest [17:31] just more social networking crap [17:32] what i don't get is how on earth my friends have that much time they can spend on them [17:32] essentially doing nothing [17:33] lubuntu has its first release for Macs (Intel & ppc) this cycle. Some long standing bugs for ppc have finally been squished owing to the devs having some testers who were willing to test things for them. Instead of the previous "well, here's how to fix it" [17:34] We've had a few scares along the way, one of the guys' test machine decided to throw up major errors.... sadly, it was the machine that was dying. [17:36] who uses ppc these days [17:36] ppc macs are old skool [17:37] Kalidarn: you have to remember that lubuntu is dedicated to older kit. [17:38] ah that's true i guess [17:38] the sort of users who'd certainly want something [17:38] I'm running Lubuntu on Thinkpad T42 with 1.5GB of RAM and that computer is unusable [17:38] i admit i do use Kubuntu on my modern systems, I only use lubuntu on my ancient laptop and a virtual machine [17:39] My Mum has only just upgraded machine as her ppc was the standard 'all in one' indigo and she needs a larger screen. [17:39] i have a 1.82ghzcentrino with 1GB of ram i use it on [17:39] (my oldest computer) [17:40] bioterror: I have no idea what you did to break it :D [17:40] it's just sluggish [17:40] 1.7GHz Pentium M [17:41] bioterror: did you go via core and just add in what you needed? such as xxxterm instead of Chromium etc? [17:41] sure I did ;) [17:42] most odd, it runs a little sluggishly on a P2 with 64Mb of ram. === myrtti is now known as Myrtti [18:49] hi guys. Just got the upgrade to 12.04 upgarde gui window and clicked the button to upgrade, was then presented with an option for "partial upgrade" and clicked "partial upgrade", then the gui vanished. I believe something is still running because I can't launch the upgrade gui again because it can't get a lock and I have a process called "precise" running taking up all available cpu... [18:50] ideas? [18:52] I don't think partial upgrades are recomended [18:53] understood.. I believe I got it because I have Chrome installed... it's the only thing I've installed from default [18:54] could be that the repo you are using is inconsistent, maybe wait a while [18:57] my upgrade tries to install pulseaudio among other things, I am not entirely pleased [18:58] bartman_: have a read of http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1343434 it was written a while back, but what it says has never chenged. [18:58] s/chenged/changed [19:03] there are zero-day updates filtering through the system, as all the servers are hammered, the updates will most likely take 24 hours to arrive. [19:06] so at this point what should I do? [19:07] something is running but I don't know what it's doing and think it may be a bad idea to reboot [19:13] Hi all [19:13] can anyone halp me with a problem with Lubuntu 11.10 login ? [19:14] My problem is that I installed the rabbitCSV software by the packet manager [19:14] reboot the system [19:14] and now login fails [19:15] if I put right credentials seems that it would login [19:15] but ask me login credential every time [19:15] what could be the problem ? [19:16] can you login from tty? [19:16] ctrl+alt+f1 [19:16] alt+f7 brings you back to X11 [19:20] no I'm not because I run Lubuntu in virtual machine [19:20] Sorry, I can't [19:21] sorry for the error [19:27] anyone know what could be the problem ? [19:28] boot your virtual computer into tty [19:28] cant say to init 3 as that doesnt exist anymore :D [19:29] yes I do it [19:29] now in logged in in tty successful [19:30] and now ? [19:32] what is init 3 ? [19:33] okay [19:33] so you can log into your system without a problem [19:34] yes [19:34] init 3 = text [19:34] init 5 = graphics [19:35] ok [19:35] I typed "sudo init 5 = graphics" [19:35] now ? [19:36] you can try: sudo init 5 [19:36] but it wont work [19:36] it doesn't say nothing [19:37] mickysantomax, sudo service lxdm start [19:37] was it 11.10? [19:37] yes [19:37] yeah [19:37] start lxdm [19:39] it returns: "job is already start" [19:39] weird [19:39] "job is already running: lxdm" [19:39] instead of start, use restart [19:40] ok [19:41] just a moment, it is starting some other things, for example postgreSQL, VirtualBox guest additions and so on [19:41] but it is too slow [19:42] no, it doesn't work [19:42] LXDE starts well [19:43] good [19:43] but you still cannot login? === CTtechguy_ is now known as CTtechguy [19:43] yes [19:43] I cannot login [19:43] with LXDE [19:43] with tty yes [19:44] rabbitcvs should not have any impact on those things regarding logging into desktop [19:44] Yes, I think the same thing [19:45] but I mess to say that previously I installed also the postgreSQL 9.1 [19:45] hence from Packet Manager [19:46] sorry, also from Packet Manager [19:47] infact, if I go to tty I see that the daemon for postgreSQL doesn't start [19:50] no help ? [19:54] mickysantomax, wondering why it would not let you login [19:54] could be a disk space problem ? [19:55] are you low on disk space? [19:55] yes, now I'm verified this [19:55] df -h [19:55] :D [19:56]