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cariboo907works for me :)00:00
s-foxWorks for me00:00
IowanGood here...00:00
uRock+100:00
IowanTime= now +/- 3 hours00:00
s-foxAgain, my worry is for AI00:01
coffeecatAgreed - this will always be bad for AI00:01
jacobWhy not cycle times every meeting? you'll get a different selection of FC every time00:01
bodhi_zazenbecause, no time that is good for AI works for anyone else00:02
jacobthat's... tricky.00:02
s-foxI think we should discuss this further, perhaps vote later00:02
bodhi_zazenso when we look at avability, say there are 4,5,or 6 members available as time foo and bar and another_time00:02
bodhi_zazenIt is always AI missing00:03
bodhi_zazenand when you look at AI times, only 1 or 2 members at most are available00:03
bodhi_zazenso , no matter what, we are going to need to learn to communicate outside of FC meetings00:03
s-foxIt is difficult00:03
s-fox+1 to communication00:03
s-foxOkay, next topic00:04
s-fox[TOPIC] New UFM00:04
=== meetingology changed the topic of #ubuntu-meeting to: New UFM
s-foxOnly one this month, and he is already an ubuntu member....00:05
s-foxwhich i still don't understand the point but anyway00:05
bodhi_zazenIs there anyone who does not know cprofitt ?00:05
IowanI'm confused - do I also need to re-apply via forums?00:05
bodhi_zazenIowan: because we have 2 categories00:05
jacobIowan: I think he just want to have a more formal forum membership.00:06
bodhi_zazenUbuntu members -> they all get the little user benefits00:06
bodhi_zazenand Ubuntu Forums Members00:06
bodhi_zazenOnly Ubuntu members active on the forums (UFM) are eligible for staff and to vote00:06
s-foxDoes this mean I need to reapply?00:07
bodhi_zazenso, if they go or have gone through an alternate membership board, they need to apply for UFM00:07
s-foxI did not get my membership for forums activites00:07
bodhi_zazenI would say so s-fox00:07
Iowanditto00:07
cariboo907Does cprofitt just want to become a UFM so that he is eligible to become a staff member00:07
bodhi_zazenThat is the best way to identify UM active on the fourms00:07
bodhi_zazenno cariboo907 , he wants to  vote for staff00:07
bodhi_zazenI do not think it is the general policy of Ubuntu Team, nor do I think we want, all UM to vote for ubuntu forums elections00:08
s-foxOkay, that I understand00:08
bodhi_zazenAs an ubuntu member, if you are not active on IRC, you do not get asked to vote for ubuntu irc board00:09
bodhi_zazenetc00:09
bodhi_zazenI anticipate a small # of these applications00:09
s-fox[VOTE] cprofitt for UFM00:09
meetingologyPlease vote on: cprofitt for UFM00:09
meetingologyPublic votes can be registered by saying +1, +0 or -1 in channel, (private votes don't work yet, but when they do it will be by messaging the channel followed by +1/-1/+0 to me)00:09
bodhi_zazen+100:09
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cariboo907+000:09
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s-foxNice vote by me ;)00:09
Iowan(vote -10 to balance?)00:10
s-fox[ENDVOTE]00:10
meetingologyVoting ended on: cprofitt for UFM00:10
meetingologyVotes for:4 Votes against:0 Abstentions:100:10
meetingologyMotion carried00:10
s-foxmhall119 ping ?00:10
pleia2good to see another CC member getting more involved with forums (we miss technoviking!)00:11
bodhi_zazen'lo pleia200:11
pleia2sorry, don't mean to interrupt meeting :)00:11
bodhi_zazenno bother, glad to have you00:12
s-foxmhall119 added an item to the agenda wanting to add a programming related forum to the main page rather than under the programming section.  i am not sure on the reasoning and generally think it is unorganised if we do that00:12
mhall119s-fox: here00:12
s-foxHey mhall119 :)00:12
mhall119mostly00:12
bodhi_zazenI say, add the forum, we can remove it if it is unused00:13
s-fox[TOPIC] Add top level suport forum for ubuntu app developers00:13
=== meetingology changed the topic of #ubuntu-meeting to: Add top level suport forum for ubuntu app developers
s-foxmhall119 can you explain your idea please?00:13
mhall119so one of our big goals in the 12.10 cycle is to build a community of independent application developers00:14
mhall119and one thing that almost every other developer.*.* website offers app devs is a forum00:14
bodhi_zazenmhall119: can this be a subsection of the ubuntu+1 forums ?00:14
duanedesigno/00:14
mhall119not just for technical/programming support either00:14
mhall119bodhi_zazen: no, it'll be a permanent fixture00:14
bodhi_zazenduanedesign: if it on topic, speak, otherwise wait for open floor00:15
mhall119so questions and support will range from programming to packaging, pricing, promotion, collaboration, etc00:15
bodhi_zazenWhere would you propose we add it ?00:15
bodhi_zazenhttp://ubuntuforums.org/index.php00:15
bodhi_zazenhttp://ubuntuforums.org/forumdisplay.php?f=31000:15
mhall119bodhi_zazen: I was hoping to get it in the "Main Support Categories" area00:15
mhall119as top-level as possible00:16
mhall119we'll link to it from developer.ubuntu.com/community00:17
bodhi_zazenI have someone who wants to learn to package the linux-libre kernel into a ppa (they make .deb now, but want to learn better)00:17
mhall119as one of the official places for app developers to get support and meet other app developers00:17
bodhi_zazenwould they use the forums for that sort of activity ?00:17
bodhi_zazenlearning to package ?00:17
jacobI think it sounds like a reasonable idea; it could attract a healthy developer community, and is no worse than any of the partner forums under main support ;)00:17
mhall119bodhi_zazen: no, that's ubuntu development, not app development00:17
mhall119we're targeting people who make, say, Angry Birds, and wants to make a native Ubuntu version00:18
bodhi_zazenbut programming side ?00:18
mhall119they don't care about kernels or debian packaging with lint --pedantic or all that00:18
s-foxmhall119 we get people building applications in that section00:18
bodhi_zazenwhat about packaging ?00:18
mhall119bodhi_zazen: programming will be part of it, but not all of it00:18
bodhi_zazenpackaging is a frequent FAQ00:18
s-fox+1 bodhi_zazen00:18
mhall119it'll also be pricing, promotion, etc00:19
jacobmakes sense to me, considering the "app" model ubuntu is moving towards. consolidating things might be useful.00:19
jacob(as much as i despise the word "app")00:19
s-foxIowan cariboo907 coffeecat thoughts?00:20
IowanThinking...00:20
mhall119I don't really want to send them all over the forums, I'd rather give them one place specifically for them00:20
cariboo907I think it's a good idea00:20
bodhi_zazen+1 mhall11900:21
jacobecho that00:21
mhall119just like they expect from other developer portals00:21
IowanProbably worth a try - as mentioned about partner subforums00:21
Effenberg0x0o/00:21
bodhi_zazenIf it is on topic Effenberg0x0 speak up00:22
s-foxEffenberg0x0 go :)00:22
Effenberg0x0Apps need testers. I see a good opportunity for integration there00:22
mhall119oh, for added clarification, this will be mainly targetting people who will be submitting apps through MyApps and the ARB, not to Universe00:22
jacobthis almost seems to merit an additional section, even. but a single forum would be good to start with.00:22
bodhi_zazenMy 2c are to make this work as best we can00:23
coffeecatI like Effenberg0x0's point.00:23
Effenberg0x0QA won't test 3rd parts. Ubuntu+1/U+1 Team can help. Good opportunity for knowledge exchange.00:24
bodhi_zazenmhall119: can you or someone help develop the description you envision ?00:24
bodhi_zazenhttp://ubuntuforums.org/forumdisplay.php?f=32600:24
mhall119bodhi_zazen: sure, dpm and I can do that00:24
bodhi_zazen"The perfect place to post for your Ubuntu support if you are new to Linux."00:24
bodhi_zazenWe can put it under main for visibility00:24
s-foxOkay, lets vote.00:25
IowanHorse before cart: Loco forum mods?00:25
bodhi_zazenas it evolved , see if it belongs there or if it should be moved to a development section00:25
bodhi_zazenmhall119: yes, any help with moderating this section ?00:25
mhall119bodhi_zazen: I'd be happy to, dpm will too I'm sure, and we can get he ARB to help too00:25
bodhi_zazenThese sorts of discussions can get , err, interesting00:26
s-fox[VOTE] App developers forum to be created and placed under main suport categories00:26
meetingologyPlease vote on: App developers forum to be created and placed under main suport categories00:26
meetingologyPublic votes can be registered by saying +1, +0 or -1 in channel, (private votes don't work yet, but when they do it will be by messaging the channel followed by +1/-1/+0 to me)00:26
bodhi_zazensomeone to help set the tone would be great00:26
cariboo907+100:26
meetingology+1 received from cariboo90700:26
bodhi_zazenstaff can help00:26
bodhi_zazen+100:26
coffeecat+100:26
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bodhi_zazenwith spam and stuff00:26
mhall119bodhi_zazen: there's enough stake holders, I'm sure we can find a good group of mods00:26
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jacobimplicit plus-one ;)00:26
bodhi_zazenI think that would be best00:26
s-fox[ENDVOTE]00:26
meetingologyVoting ended on: App developers forum to be created and placed under main suport categories00:26
meetingologyVotes for:4 Votes against:0 Abstentions:100:26
meetingologyMotion carried00:26
mhall119you guys rock! thanks so much for addressing this so quickly00:27
s-foxOkay, mhall119 if you could email  / irc the fc with the description we will do the rest :)00:27
coffeecatBefore we move on. Something for mhall119  and all to think about...00:27
mhall119s-fox: what email?00:27
s-foxmhall119 the fc mailing list00:28
bodhi_zazenmhall119: for future reference : https://wiki.ubuntu.com/ForumCouncil00:28
mhall119thanks00:28
bodhi_zazenubuntu-forums-council@lists.ubuntu.com00:28
coffeecatmhall119, mentioned "pricing and promotion" With app developers who are new members. Have to give them guidelines so they are not mistaken for spammers.00:29
s-fox+1 on spam issue00:29
IowanPricing always raises a red flag...00:29
mhall119coffeecat: yeah, I didn't mean "promote your app on the forums", I meant "ask other app devs what they did for promotion, what work and what didn't, etc"00:29
bodhi_zazenAs do links to products off ubuntu web pages from members with < 10-15 posts00:30
coffeecatmhall119, sure. But some might get it wrong! :)00:30
s-foxWe should make an announcement to the forum population, otherwise  we are going to get buried in reports00:30
bodhi_zazenPart of setting up the forums00:30
Iowansticky in neew forum00:30
mhall119s-fox: we will also likely announce it on the developer portal blog00:30
bodhi_zazendevelop description, post guidelines as a sticky00:30
s-foxmhall119 a lot of the forum users are not devs =)00:31
mhall119s-fox: right, I was just mentioning it00:31
bodhi_zazenYea, we chased the dev out with pitchforks and torches =)00:31
s-fox[ACTION] Sticky in new section outlining post criteria00:31
meetingologyACTION: Sticky in new section outlining post criteria00:31
s-fox[ACTION] Post in Cafe about new section00:32
meetingologyACTION: Post in Cafe about new section00:32
bodhi_zazenany other comments ?00:32
s-fox[ACTION] Post in PT about new section00:32
meetingologyACTION: Post in PT about new section00:32
s-foxNothing from me00:33
s-foxAnyone else?00:33
Iowannothing from here00:33
coffeecatNothing more here00:33
s-fox[TOPIC] U+1 moving00:33
=== meetingology changed the topic of #ubuntu-meeting to: U+1 moving
mhall119thanks again, I'll get with dpm tomorrow to write up that description and some guidelines from our side, then you guys can add whatever guidelines you think will be needed00:33
s-foxmoergaes added this  item00:34
moergaesYes00:34
s-foxmoergaes you have the floor =)00:34
moergaesThanks.00:34
moergaesWe have talked somewhat about this in the staff forum00:34
moergaesbut I would like to hear if we have an agreement / decision.00:34
moergaesUbuntu+1 is different from all other fora00:34
moergaesas the purpose is not support, but software development00:34
moergaes(particularly testing and bug reporting).00:34
moergaesTherefore support request should not go there IMHO.00:35
moergaesMy suggestion:00:35
cariboo907I think the point is moot, as Precise comes out tomorrow, and there will be a new QQ subforum,00:35
moergaesThis is meant for U+1 in general00:35
moergaesnot only this cycle.00:35
s-foxcariboo907 please wait until moergaes is done. :)00:35
moergaesI suggest that all threads in U+1 should serve a purpose regarding software development00:36
cariboo907OK :(00:36
moergaeselse they should be moved (or stay) somewhere else00:36
moergaesmostly Absolute Beginner Talk.00:36
quackerso/00:36
moergaesComments?00:36
Iowanwhere should U+1 support go?00:37
Effenberg0x0o/00:37
jacobagreed. but when do we decide to stop moving threads *in* and start moving them *out* into general areas? 2 weeks before release? beta 2?00:37
s-foxgo Effenberg0x000:37
bodhi_zazeno/00:37
Effenberg0x0Mark created Development release USERS (not testers) when he did this: http://www.markshuttleworth.com/archives/938, which was foralized here: https://blueprints.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+spec/other-p-plusonemaint-priorities00:37
Effenberg0x0Therefore, users exist, users need support. And we benefit from converting support requests into new testers.00:37
uRockMaybe have two sub-sections, one for devs and another for support?00:37
jacobi like that idea uRock00:38
bodhi_zazen+1 uRock00:38
jacobU+1 forum always seemed a bit cluttered00:38
bodhi_zazenu+1 have grown00:38
cariboo907We have very few developers in that section, they mainly answer support questions00:38
bodhi_zazenquackers: go00:38
jacobalso, I also think that U+1 support/development should be moved up a little bit. it's quite hidden, and many threads moved there are made by those who didn't see it00:38
quackerswhere should testers of the current development release ask for support, if not in U + 100:39
quackers?00:39
bodhi_zazencould move it under general ...00:39
quackersisn't that thinning an already limited supply of help?00:39
bodhi_zazenLet me try to answer that quackers , if I may ...00:39
s-foxwe'd be flooded with reports if they do not have their own section00:39
bodhi_zazenThere are no absolutes, people (including staff) need to use judgement00:40
Effenberg0x0This release (QQ) is about quality. We need more common users testing the Development Release. I ask you to consider that cautiously in any change we do to the current structure.00:40
bodhi_zazenLets say a user needs support on u+1 ...00:40
bodhi_zazenIs is a question that is very general - how do I install software ?00:40
bodhi_zazenIf it is general enough , leave it in ABT or GH or wherever00:40
quackersnot usually00:40
bodhi_zazenOr is it specific to U+100:41
bodhi_zazenIn that case, it needs to be moved00:41
jacobdoesn't that really echo current policy? :)00:41
quackersoften specific imo00:41
bodhi_zazenThis last release cycle was NOT typical00:41
bodhi_zazenit was MUCH MUCH more stable00:41
bodhi_zazenwait until X fails on u+100:41
cariboo907We usually make some suggestions, and help the new user along, as long as the question is concerneing the development release00:41
bodhi_zazenso u+1 specific support / development -> u+100:41
bodhi_zazenthere will always be judgement involved00:42
cariboo907that's my thought00:42
quackersfor me, yes00:42
bodhi_zazenDoes the support question pertain to development , development specific problems ?00:42
quackersitconcentrates users00:42
s-foxOkay, I see a few people in agreement on an idea. Time to vote00:42
bodhi_zazenOr is it general enough to remain in ABT ?00:42
bodhi_zazenIf in doubt -> move to u+100:43
coffeecatOne problem is the "naive" user who has no intention of testing, install an alpha or beta without knowing what they are and needs help. It dilutes the U+1 forum.00:43
bodhi_zazenuntil a stable beta ?00:43
moergaescoffeecat: Exactly00:43
bodhi_zazen+1 coffeecat00:43
moergaesthat was my point.00:43
bodhi_zazenBut again, this release cycle was more stable then average00:44
s-fox[VOTE]  u+1 specific then move, if question is generic then leave in General / ABT00:44
meetingologyPlease vote on: u+1 specific then move, if question is generic then leave in General / ABT00:44
meetingologyPublic votes can be registered by saying +1, +0 or -1 in channel, (private votes don't work yet, but when they do it will be by messaging the channel followed by +1/-1/+0 to me)00:44
bodhi_zazen+100:44
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s-foxIowan ?00:44
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s-fox[ENDVOTE]00:44
meetingologyVoting ended on: u+1 specific then move, if question is generic then leave in General / ABT00:44
meetingologyVotes for:4 Votes against:0 Abstentions:100:44
meetingologyMotion carried00:44
s-foxGreat =)00:45
bodhi_zazenOpen floor ?00:45
Effenberg0x0o/ May I? (Two quick remarks, no need to discuss it in-depth now, just a proposal for you to consider)00:45
moergaesThanks!00:45
s-foxLast item00:45
bodhi_zazeno/00:45
s-foxbodhi_zazen after the division of labour you will have the floor00:45
cariboo907WHo is going to move the Precise sub-forum to the archove00:45
Effenberg0x0Oops00:45
bodhi_zazennaw, give it to Effenberg0x0 first00:45
cariboo907archive00:45
s-foxbodhi_zazen okay00:45
cariboo907+100:45
s-fox[TOPIC] Division of labour00:46
=== meetingology changed the topic of #ubuntu-meeting to: Division of labour
bodhi_zazenyou all see my tl;dr every day00:46
s-foxWho wants the team report this month?00:46
Iowan(pass)00:46
* cariboo907 will00:47
s-fox[ACTION] Team report -> s-fox & cariboo90700:47
meetingologyACTION: Team report -> s-fox & cariboo90700:47
bodhi_zazencariboo907: volunteered earlier00:47
s-foxwho wants the admin thread ?00:47
IowanI'll help!00:47
bodhi_zazeno/00:47
s-fox[ACTION] Admin thread -> Iowan00:47
meetingologyACTION: Admin thread -> Iowan00:47
bodhi_zazendoh -00:48
s-foxWho wants to swat trolls on the mailing list?00:48
bodhi_zazeno/00:48
bodhi_zazenand spam00:48
* coffeecat is game for some troll swatting.00:48
s-fox[ACTION] Mailing list -> bodhi_zazen00:48
coffeecatAnd spam!!!!00:48
meetingologyACTION: Mailing list -> bodhi_zazen00:48
bodhi_zazenunless you have a better task for me oh great one (s-fox)00:48
s-fox[ACTION] s-fox to mail coffeecat some spam00:49
meetingologyACTION: s-fox to mail coffeecat some spam00:49
coffeecatlol00:49
s-foxI think that is it00:49
s-foxEffenberg0x0 has the floor00:49
IowanBan reversal candidates?00:49
bodhi_zazenblog.bodhizazen.net | coffeecat@ubuntu.com00:49
bodhi_zazenThere are none Iowan00:50
Effenberg0x0May I?00:50
s-foxyes00:50
bodhi_zazenNo ban reversal candidates added themselves to the agenda, none showed up00:50
Effenberg0x0Thanks, I have two items for you to consider. We can discuss both in the future as we're short on time now.00:50
Effenberg0x0#1 (The small one): This cycle is about quality. We need more common users testing the Dev. Release. If possible, I'd like Ubuntu+1 to move up a little in the forum sections. It's a little hidden, and that is not compatible to current Ubuntu strategy.00:50
s-foxdon't worry, we're only 55 mins over our allocation of an hour00:50
bodhi_zazenEffenberg0x0: np, in the future = add them to agenda ;)00:50
Effenberg0x0Ok bodhi_zazen00:51
Effenberg0x0And #200:51
jacob+1 Effenberg0x000:51
bodhi_zazen+1 to moving it to main =)00:51
uRockanother +100:51
coffeecat+1 from me00:51
cariboo907+1 from me too00:51
s-fox[VOTE] Move u+1 so it is more visible00:51
meetingologyPlease vote on: Move u+1 so it is more visible00:51
meetingologyPublic votes can be registered by saying +1, +0 or -1 in channel, (private votes don't work yet, but when they do it will be by messaging the channel followed by +1/-1/+0 to me)00:51
bodhi_zazen+100:52
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uRock(plus one)00:52
Effenberg0x0wow, great, huge support! Thanks guys! Let me paste text for the next request.00:52
s-fox[ENDVOTE]00:52
meetingologyVoting ended on: Move u+1 so it is more visible00:52
meetingologyVotes for:4 Votes against:0 Abstentions:100:52
meetingologyMotion carried00:52
Effenberg0x0#2 (The big one): UF – U+1Team partnership. The U+1 Team is independent from QA and any other structure, reporting only to CC. But it is strongly related to UF (and UF's Ubuntu+1 sub-forum). Initially, most of our members came from UF, including some UF staff and Ubuntu members via Forums. We even have 2 UF Council members in our team. I personally see UF as the most successful endeavor of Ubuntu in on-line communities.00:53
Effenberg0x0We need to work together. U+1 team was designed to work via partnerships, with defined term lengths, goals, tasks, limited scope, metrics. In this sense, I'd like to propose such a partnership between U+1 and UF.00:53
Effenberg0x0UF can benefit from having some of it's staff involved in learning in testing, QA and technical work – a glimpse of a broader Ubuntu universe. UF can also recruit staff and candidates to Members from U+1 (likely technical and committed to Ubuntu).00:53
Effenberg0x0U+1 Team can benefit from having more Ubuntu-commited members in testing (and possibly DOC and other activities) and strong recruitment to testing via Forums. Forums are also (IMO) an amazing thermometer of Ubuntu software quality.00:53
Effenberg0x0We can work to draft a scope for such partnership together and define a term-length of one development cycle as a trial. I can have a draft for your appreciation in a week or so.00:53
Effenberg0x0whew00:53
s-fox+1 on reviewing a draft00:54
s-foxThe idea really needs some discussion00:54
bodhi_zazendiscussion would be great, plan sounds solid00:54
bodhi_zazencontinue to build on success00:55
Effenberg0x0I think it's a win-win. For UF and U+1 Team. We just need to set details.00:55
bodhi_zazeno/00:55
s-foxEffenberg0x0 could you prepare the draft and  get it to a the FC?00:55
Effenberg0x0s-fox, sure. Gie a couple days and I'll send it to FC mail, ok?00:56
bodhi_zazenEffenberg0x0: and add an item to FC agenda00:56
Effenberg0x0bodhi_zazen, Ok, will do00:56
uRockGotta go. It's been nice... 8)00:56
bodhi_zazenUnresolved items -> carry over00:56
s-fox[ACTION] Effenberg0x0 to send fc draft and post on agenda00:56
meetingologyACTION: Effenberg0x0 to send fc draft and post on agenda00:56
s-foxbodhi_zazen floor is yours00:57
bodhi_zazenJust a few short comments on #ubuntuforums00:57
bodhi_zazenThe channel is intended to be a voice for the community and a place for staff to interact00:57
bodhi_zazenIt seems to be working well00:57
bodhi_zazenfeel free to participate, including steering the occasional discussion of items on the FC agenda00:58
bodhi_zazenencourage discussion of community issues00:58
bodhi_zazenas staff, you are the facilitators00:58
bodhi_zazenWe simply get more done, and have more community support for change if we have the discussion with the community00:59
bodhi_zazen /end00:59
cariboo907o/00:59
s-foxcariboo907 go00:59
bodhi_zazengo cariboo90700:59
cariboo907Who is going to move the Precise sub-forum to the archive, and create a new one for QQ00:59
bodhi_zazenare you volunteering cariboo907 ?01:00
cariboo907I guess I am, it will just be a bit later this time around,01:00
Effenberg0x0Is archiving it really needed? Considering many bugs and workarounds are persistent?01:01
bodhi_zazenOK, if you need help, let us know01:01
bodhi_zazennot archiving, closing (I assume)01:01
s-fox[ACTION]  cariboo907 to handle precise and create QQ Subforum01:01
meetingologyACTION: cariboo907 to handle precise and create QQ Subforum01:01
s-foxOkay, anything else?01:01
IowanNew member message?01:01
s-foxOh yes, can i do it this month?01:02
bodhi_zazen\o/01:02
Iowan+101:02
cariboo907+101:02
s-fox[ACTION] New member message -> s-fox01:02
meetingologyACTION: New member message -> s-fox01:02
coffeecats-fox, I;m so glad! :)01:02
s-foxAnything else? not like we're running late or anything01:03
s-fox;)01:03
Iowandone here...01:03
cariboo907that's it for me, I'm getting hungry :)01:03
s-foxi have work in 4 hours and yet to sleep01:03
bodhi_zazengetting long in the tooth01:03
Iowaneeewww01:03
jacobit's a comfortable 9pm here :301:03
moergaesThanks for now. Good night, everybody.01:04
mhall119east coast!01:04
cariboo907it's only 18:00 here01:04
cariboo907on the Pacific coast01:04
s-foxokay01:04
coffeecat2 in the morning here. :(01:04
jacobgood meeting all, night01:04
s-fox#endmeeting01:04
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meetingologyMeeting ended Thu Apr 26 01:04:41 2012 UTC.01:04
meetingologyMinutes (wiki):        http://ubottu.com/meetingology/logs/ubuntu-meeting/2012/ubuntu-meeting.2012-04-25-23.02.moin.txt01:04
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Effenberg0x0Thank you guys01:04
jacob<-- jacob pretends to leave the channel but never really does01:04
mhall119g'night s-fox01:04
s-foxCan someone grab that link please ?01:05
s-foxmy tablet is giving me issues01:05
jacobshort link: http://j.mp/IEXiqp01:05
jacobcan post to SCC if wanted01:06
Iowan(post it)01:06
jacobdone01:07
s-foxThanks jacob01:07
jacobnp01:07
s-foxI am going, thanks for coming everyone01:08
jacobbye s-fox01:08
oldos2erthaanks, s-fox01:08
wildmanne39Is the floor open to questions?01:10
bodhi_zazenyes wildmanne39 , but FC members are drooping like flies -> move to #ubuntuforums01:12
wildmanne39I did thanks bodhi_zazen01:13
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