=== emma_ is now known as emma === emma is now known as em [06:51] good morning [07:30] good morning === Daviey_ is now known as Daviey === chris|| is now known as chris| === runasand_ is now known as runasand === Jacky is now known as JackyAlcine === chrisccoulson_ is now known as chrisccoulson [08:44] when's the release??12.04?? === JackyAlcine is now known as Jacky [08:48] mvineetmenon: please visit #ubuntu-release-party for such questions [08:48] @laney : ok..thx === yofel_ is now known as yofel [13:09] do not stack stuff on top of your magic trackpad [13:44] tumbleweed, bdrung: http://paste.debian.net/165459/ [13:44] ScottK: get the distro-info-data SRU from -proposed [13:45] It is a design that is idiotic beyond belief to crash in this case. [13:45] I will. [13:45] ScottK: we don't really have any better solution to the problem [13:46] either it fails with an error [13:46] Why should pbuilder-dist precise update not work today just like it did yesterday? [13:46] or it assumes that the last release it knows about is still the devel release. But we know that it isn't [13:46] It doesn't matter what the devel release is. [13:46] I told it which one I wanted. [13:46] There is no devel release currently. [13:47] That too. [13:47] clearly the problem here is [13:47] if self.target_distro == UbuntuDistroInfo().devel(): [13:47] because we only have forward mappings not reverse... [13:47] but the general problem of what to do when the data is out of date is often: fail [13:50] I've been thinking it was time to learn about sbuild anyway. [13:50] :) [13:51] and in the last few days I've been thinking that I need to fix the worst of these cases. Mark is getting less and less timely with his name announcements === sagaci_ is now known as sagaci [14:46] Hmm, what's the Q [14:47] quetzal … now trying to figure out how long I need to be able to type that properly. Quicker than oneiric or slower … [14:48] quantal is the word you need to type [14:49] oh, right [14:49] quantalamera? [14:50] heh [14:51] * Rhonda suddenly has some mariachis before her eyes :) [14:53] Noone wants to update https://wiki.ubuntu.com/? :) [14:54] update how? [14:54] :P [14:54] Rhonda: perhaps they did and they're just waiting for it to save? #ubuntuwikislowness ;) [14:54] precise from "to be released" to "released"? :) [14:54] the wiki can be pretty slow actually [14:55] * Rhonda tries to do herself [14:55] tbph i could probably *try* to edit, but i'm lazy :P [14:55] Rhonda: oops, me too :) [14:55] * EvilResistance also doesnt have any special role, and might be blocked [14:55] Rhonda: well, saved :) [14:55] highvoltage, you'll beat me to it, I'm not even logged in yet ;) [14:55] question now [14:55] do you even need "to be released" [14:56] (probably, but with nothting there it makes the page look... weird might be the word) [14:56] Yes, I use it to follow the link to the release information for the next one :) [14:56] … highvoltage could have added quantal below instead :) [14:57] * highvoltage is on it [14:57] (just finding the exact dates) [14:57] Just put "TBA" [14:57] and kill maverick? [14:57] Ah, right, should update packages.ubuntu.com me thinks :) [14:58] highvoltage: these were what I could determine: http://anonscm.debian.org/gitweb/?p=collab-maint/distro-info-data.git;a=commitdiff;h=89022e2351ec3cd60c457c2b3436b74d54d7ac84 (dates) [14:58] Laney: you mean on the main page, remove the maverick row? [14:58] yes [14:59] done and done [14:59] Laney: has the dev schedule for Quantal been published yet? [14:59] shouldn't hardy moved on the /Releases page to EOLed? [14:59] a draft [15:00] Ah, no, april 2013 [15:00] hardy for servers, yes. [15:00] Yep, Laney, maverick killed [15:01] https://wiki.ubuntu.com/QuantalQuetzal/ReleaseSchedule is where the draft is, fwiw [15:02] i take it thath backporting from Precise still works (if I can show the package to backport builds, runs, installs, uninstalls correctly on the release being backported to)? [15:02] yes [15:03] and reverse-depends too [15:03] I think I'll postpone the changes to the packages site for now. [15:03] Laney: Btw backports, wesnoth 1.10.2 upcoming ;) [15:03] * Laney is registering precise-backports now [15:04] Laney: reverse depends in which context? that the dependencies for the package that exist in say, Precise, must also exist in, say, Oneiric, and not cause significant breakage? [15:04] s/significant breakage/breakage/ [15:04] you don't register them when the release name is announced? [15:07] nah [15:07] you think someone might hijack the name? [15:07] it's possible. But you've got the lp admins on your side :) [15:09] Laney: what do i need to worry about with the rdeps? [15:09] that they work with the new package [15:09] apart from rdeps not existing on the release the package is being backported to [15:09] ah, of course :P [15:10] i know that the package in question (ZNC) when it was backported to ONeiric from Precise/sid and its rdeps worked [15:10] * EvilResistance will confirm with the latest version of ZNC from Precise in an Oneiric env [16:11] hello there I am trying to fix a bug for dwww the bug is here https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/dwww/+bug/988937 my question is I am playing with the Makefile for the .desktop file and was wondering what is the correct value for a icon dir ? Here is Makefile well one of them http://paste.ubuntu.com/947578/ thanks for your time. [16:11] Launchpad bug 988937 in dwww (Ubuntu) "Icon is not there for unity." [Undecided,New] [16:42] Ok so I fixed the error where to upload too ? [16:42] or push sorry [16:42] I keep getting error bzr: ERROR: Permission denied: "~ubuntu-branches/ubuntu/precise/dwww/": : Cannot create branch at '/~ubuntu-branches/ubuntu/precise/dwww' <~~ I am sure that that is not the right place [16:44] bobweaver: If you don't have permissions for that project, you can push into your own branch and suggest a merge proposal. [16:44] thanks astraljava === jtaylor_ is now known as jtaylor [17:07] \o/ it worked now just to try to merge :) [17:12] can we already sync stuff to quantal? [17:12] for security [17:13] it'll be easiest to just wait [17:13] jtaylor: not open yet [17:13] but i think technically it would go to unapproved [17:14] its more to make sure that the precise version gets superseeded by quantal [17:14] but ubuntu0.12.04.1 should be fine [17:14] why is that time critical? [17:14] not sure if there's a way to test build yet :) [17:15] that was my next question how, long till I install alpha Quantal aka when will alpha be here ? [17:15] Is there a mailing list for that ? [17:16] ubuntu-devel [17:16] -announce [17:17] thanks again jtaylor I am turning into a skipping recored with that [17:17] need to make alais :) === JanC_ is now known as JanC === bulldog98_ is now known as bulldog98 === jcfp is now known as Guest59330 === jcfp` is now known as jcfp [20:32] So, packages for precise go through the -proposed process now, right? [20:32] s/package/bugs/ [20:32] bug 989205 [20:32] Launchpad bug 989205 in glance (Ubuntu) "Give glance group read permission to /etc/glance" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/989205 [20:32] pabelanger: yes [20:33] micahg: cool, just confirming. THanks [20:46] pabelanger: there was another asterisk dsa from debian with several quite serious issues, can you take care of them? [20:47] 2460-1 [20:49] jtaylor: Ya, I can see what is need to do for the other branches of ubuntu. A FFE for asterisk was recently done, which should address these issues === RAOF_ is now known as RAOF [23:37] distro_info.DistroDataOutdated: Distribution data outdated <- anyone with an idea of why I am getting that with pbuilder-precise let me know [23:37] it worked a few days ago [23:54] nixternal: I heard word of a 0-day SRU to fix distro-info [23:54] yeah, ScottK already told me [23:55] * ajmitch is just too slow :) [23:56] old age does that to you [23:57] tumbleweed: i am in the backports keyring. i will do the backport once i fully recovered from the hard drive failure