[01:30] <mdurkq> would this http://wiki.ubuntuusers.de/Terratec_Cinergy_2400i_DT work in mythbuntu 10.04 ive been trying for the last 3 days to get it going in 11.10 with zero luck!
[01:31] <mdurkq> i have 4 of these cards from an old setup running 9.04, it was hard enough to get them running back then but the drive failed so im stuck and had to reinstall
[01:37]  * Batshua is back.
[01:39] <mdurkq> help me XD
[01:47] <Batshua> mdurkq: Sorry, dude, I'm looking for help myself.
[01:48] <Batshua> I have xserver problems and adding a card problems, and I'm … not an experty type person. :/
[01:48] <mdurkq> ahh okies
[02:13] <Batshua> Oh, by the by… on Natty, my computer is inexplicably opening and closing the DVD drive tray.
[02:13] <Batshua> Like, of its own accort.
[02:13] <Batshua> What gives?!
[04:19] <Batshua> Anyone alive?
[04:38] <u-haul> I hope most of us are.
[04:43] <Batshua> Quick question, what's the terminal name of the ubuntu software center?
[04:43] <Batshua> I want to use it under x-forwarding
[05:20] <Batshua> Kinds confused by Pangolin's perms.
[05:38] <superm1> Batshua: software-center
[05:38] <superm1> it might not work x-forwarding though
[05:38] <Batshua> superm1: thanks
[05:38] <Batshua> I'll try it out.
[05:38] <superm1> i think it uses some dbus session stuff for installation actually
[09:12] <BigUrsis> anyone here have a hd-pvr?
[15:23] <Dorward> Are there any Mythbuntu specific upgrade instructions? Or should I just follow the regular "upgrading ubuntu" path?
[15:24] <tgm4883> Dorward, you can't upgrade directly from Mythbuntu 7.10
[15:24] <Dorward> I'm on 11.4 now
[15:25] <tgm4883> Did you take a look at the known issues?
[15:25] <Dorward> Yes
[15:25] <tgm4883> so  unless you are upgrading from 10.04 to 12.04, there aren't any known issues
[15:25] <tgm4883> also, you can't upgrade from 11.04 to 12.04 directly
[15:26] <Dorward> That's an Ubuntu upgrade path rule, isn't it?
[15:26] <tgm4883> yep
[15:26] <Dorward> Great. Thanks.
[15:27] <tgm4883> yw
[15:32] <FabriceMG> mythbuntu 12.04 is alway based on xbuntu, yes, no?
[15:33] <tgm4883> FabriceMG, not exactly
[15:34] <tgm4883> we use XFCE, but I wouldn't say we are based on xubuntu
[15:34] <tgm4883> it's not like we pull in all the xubuntu dependencies then add mythtv on top of it
[15:34] <FabriceMG> ok, thx
[15:36] <superm1> FabriceMG: we have our own set of seeds, don't use the xubuntu seeds.  only common thing is XFCE
[15:39] <FabriceMG> good job boys, many thanks for your job
[15:49] <yunosh> hi, re the known issues on http://mythbuntu.org/12.04/release: is the grub thing some intermediate issue? is there being worked on or is there some workaround?
[15:50] <tgm4883> yunosh, bug 978464
[15:50] <Zinn> Bug 978464 in grub2 (Ubuntu) "Upgrade 10.04 to 12.04 Beta 2 failed, grub issue" [Critical, Confirmed] http://www.launchpad.net/bugs/978464
[15:50] <yunosh> thanks. that should be linked from the /release page
[15:51] <tgm4883> yunosh, it is, you should see it arrive in the next 15 minutes
[15:51] <yunosh> ah :) too quick again...
[15:52] <yunosh> uhm "confirmed" and "critical" but "unassigned"? that doesn't sound good. milestone missed too.
[15:57] <superm1> yunosh: for a workaround, i bet you can probably grub-install after the upgrade but before the reboot
[15:58] <yunosh> yes, that's how in understand it from the report too
[15:58] <yunosh> i
[15:58] <superm1> yunosh: also worth noting, i didn't hit this on my upgrade or fresh install tests
[15:59] <superm1> *upgrade real hw or upgrade VM tests
[15:59] <superm1> but jya and mrand both hit it
[16:00] <altj> anyone else seeing problems with the torrent for mythbuntu-12.04-desktop-amd64.iso?
[16:00] <altj> Failure reason "Requested download is not authorized for use with this tracker."
[16:01] <tgm4883> superm1, are you able to test that?
[16:01] <tgm4883> ^^
[16:01] <superm1> no i'm not able to
[16:01] <tgm4883> I just pulled it today from our release page, so it should work
[16:02] <tgm4883> altj, if you redownload the .torrent file does it work?
[16:02] <tgm4883> or does the i386 file work?
[16:02] <altj> the i386 file works fine.  I downloaded both torrent files at the same time
[16:03] <tgm4883> weird the amd64 one doesn't work
[16:03] <tgm4883> can you try downloading it again, maybe it got corrupted during download
[16:03] <tgm4883> I'll try and find someone else to test that
[16:06] <altj> redownloaded, same error
[16:06] <altj> I've tested it from multiple systems and multiple locations
[16:07] <altj> fyi - tracker in the torrent is http://torrent.ubuntu.com:6969/announce (91.189.90.143)
[19:06] <MTughan> Just noticed a small "known bug" on the 12.04 download page that upgrading from 10.04 doesn't upgrade GRUB properly. Is there a workaround or fix to this issue? I notice someone just deleted their grub.cfg and rebuilt it to fix in the bug.
[19:16] <MTughan> Also, what would choosing the 64-bit image give me over 32-bit?
[19:20] <tgm4883> MTughan, 64-bit binaries
[19:20] <MTughan> Any runtime advantages, at least in typical use as an HTPC box?
[19:21] <tgm4883> transcoding is faster
[19:21] <tgm4883> IDK if commflagging is faster or not
[19:22] <MTughan> Makes sense for the transcoding, although I use my desktop for that purpose.
[19:22] <MTughan> So, just a fix for the GRUB issue then. Any ideas?
[19:23] <tgm4883> if you run into the issue, you'll need to install grub via a live disk
[19:24] <tgm4883> you might try the workarounds in that bug
[19:31] <MTughan> I'll give it a try anyways. Thanks for the help.
[19:32] <emboss> Hey, I'm trying to install 12.04 along side win7, I chose to install the bootloader on the same partition as myth but I don't get a grub menu. just boots straight into windows.
[19:33] <MTughan> A couple seconds before the Windows loading screen starts, what happens if you hold down the Shift key? It's possible that there's a 0 timeout on GRUB, so you're just not seeing it.
[19:34] <emboss> I'll try that, I  thought grub would have made myth default.
[19:35] <tgm4883> emboss, do you have multiple hard drives?
[19:35] <tgm4883> MTughan, grub shows the menu if it detects another OS is installed
[19:35] <emboss> tgm4883: There's a single sata disk, and a USB storage device attached
[19:36] <MTughan> tgm4883: That's assuming the installer sets the timeout right. GRUB just takes whatever timeout is given from the configuration file.
[19:36] <tgm4883> MTughan, on a single OS setup, it skips it completely
[19:36] <tgm4883> on a multi OS setup, it shows the menu for 10 seconds
[19:37] <tgm4883> emboss, so you have multiple partitions and installed grub to the myth partition
[19:37] <MTughan> No, it doesn't skip the menu on a single OS installation. I can attest to that from installing Ubuntu 11.10 in a couple VMs.
[19:37] <tgm4883> sounds like boot isn't even looking at it
[19:37] <tgm4883> MTughan, yes it does, unless you hold down the shift key
[19:37] <emboss> tgm4883: Yep
[19:38] <emboss> myth is install on sda5 and bootlader here also
[19:38] <tgm4883> emboss, IIRC, you need to either A) install grub to /dev/sda or B) setup windows to know about the other OS install
[19:39] <emboss> tgm4883: Windows bootloader can boot myth?
[19:39] <tgm4883> emboss, windows bootloader can point to another partition, which would then load grub, which boots linux
[19:40] <emboss> tgm4883: got you
[21:55] <MTughan> Just a quick note about the website. All the links to ISOs have been updated to 12.04, but the MD5SUMS still points to 11.10.
[21:55] <MTughan> The 12.04 MD5SUMS file is up, just the link isn't pointing to it.
[22:10] <rhpot1991> MTughan: thanks, I'll fix it