[10:29] mwhudson: are you on the ubuntu-nz mailing list ? [19:26] morning on this wet friday morning [19:27] precise is out :) [19:29] morning [19:35] has it hit the .nz mirrors yet? [19:38] morning [19:54] morning [19:55] woohoo for Precise :) [19:55] I wonder if an *.04 will come out in *.05 sometime [19:55] there was one that was 6 weeks late one time, wasn't there? [20:05] dapper became 6.06 === ojwb is now known as Guest17212 === Guest17212 is now known as ojwb [20:09] must be time to start working on quantal quetzal now :) [20:45] I've been upgrading from archive.ubuntu.com for the last couple of weeks .. so there were just 14 packages upgraded this morning [20:46] ahhh, classic : http://imgur.com/gtXgp [20:49] morning [20:49] * ajmitch should see if there's anything to upgrade [20:53] slowest part is apt-get update [20:53] 5,784 B/s 12min 36s [21:02] yeah that'd be getting hammered [21:26] lifeless: yes [21:26] morning [21:51] oops, i forgot to camp in #ubuntu-release-party this time around [21:52] I was in there for awhile, but didn't really feel like sticking around [21:52] you certainly don't want to read it :-) [21:53] "are we there yet??" [21:54] hmm, i'm tempted to create an Ubuntu derivative called Ubik [21:54] then this release can be Perky Pat [21:55] it does seem a lot of work for a slightly obscure scifi reference though [21:57] maybe you can change your name to horselover fat first? [21:57] (that is the right reference, isn't it?) [21:57] yes [22:02] ah, ubik isn't one of the valis novels, so it's not quite the right reference [22:02] * mwhudson tries to remember if he's actually read ubik [22:06] apparently you can't remember it wholesale [22:06] :) [22:06] i have read that one [22:06] * ojwb has, but not for 20 years probably [22:06] 18 maybe [22:09] ubik's wikipedia summary seems pretty unfamiliar [22:09] but reminds me that pkd was pretty messed up [22:16] yes [22:48] hmm, so whiule using unsquashfs, I see this error printed out:L [22:48] write_xattr: failed to write xattr security.capability for file working/extracted-squashfs/usr/bin/gnome-keyring-daemon because a weird error occurred [22:48] *slow claps* [22:49] "a weird error" - very technical [22:58] ajmitch: here's a question for you: [22:59] Is there a way to generate a diff of all files changed in an ubuntu package ver X->Y? The package is a python app, and I want to know what was changed [22:59] ...without going though all the apt-src nonsense [22:59] * thomi wants an "apt-diff" command [22:59] heh [23:00] I guess that's a "no" then [23:00] well there's only really debdiff [23:00] ooh. [23:00] which will compare source files [23:00] oh [23:00] ok [23:00] so you'd run 'debdiff X.dsc Y.dsc' [23:01] hmmm... ok, another stupid Q: how do I get a src package downloaded? [23:01] ahh, nvm [23:01] apt-get source ... [23:01] I knew that [23:01] that'll unpack it too [23:01] :-/ [23:01] there may be an option not to, never looked [23:02] I'll just use diff on the extracted files then [23:05] hmmm, are older versions of a package purged from the download servers straight away? [23:05] thomi: yes [23:05] ok, so what do I need to do to get an older version of a package? [23:06] depends if LP has purged it, what's the package? [23:06] ibus [23:06] current is 1.4.1, I need to get the source for 1.4.0 [23:07] looks like it's gone [23:07] https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/ibus/+publishinghistory says the last 1.4.0 version was removed from disk [23:07] you might be able to get the version from the bzr branch [23:07] nooooooo [23:07] ok, thanks anyway [23:08] I'll do this the hard way [23:08] each version should be tagged in lp:ubuntu/ibus [23:08] if the debian package is close enough, you could get that from snapshot.debian.org [23:10] there look to be a few patches in ubuntu, so the branch might be the best option [23:10] gah - even worse, the changes I need to look at involve a rename, which makes the diffs useless [23:10] win [23:11] can't you tell debdiff about renamed files? [23:11] hmm, maybe not for source diffing [23:12] it's OK, I just need to do it manually, can;'t rely on the VCS diffs [23:13] ok [23:13] sorry to not be of much help [23:13] :)