[00:04] <mhall119> hey bluebomber 
[00:05] <bluebomber> Hey, mhall119! I'm just removing all instances of "independent" from my /etc/apt/sources.list, because I haven't been able to install any updates the last 13 days because of this: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/update-manager/+bug/947296
[00:05] <bluebomber> X-D
[00:05] <bluebomber> What's new?
[00:07] <mhall119> bluebomber: that's an interesting one, I haven't seen it on my system...
[00:07] <mhall119> bluebomber: not much, getting excited for tomorrow
[00:07] <bluebomber> Do you have any independent "sources" (?) in your sources.list?
[00:07] <mhall119> I thought I did
[00:08] <bluebomber> I don't know the terminology
[00:08] <bluebomber> In this line, what are "precise", "main", and "restricted"?    deb http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu precise main restricted
[00:09] <mhall119> "precise" is the release (12.04 in this case)
[00:09] <mhall119> each release has several archives
[00:09] <mhall119> "main" is open source stuff maintained by Canonical
[00:10] <mhall119> "universe" is open source stuff maintained by the community
[00:10] <mhall119> "restricted" is closed-source stuff maintained by Canonical
[00:10] <bluebomber> Right, I get that, but what are they, terminology wise? Sources? Repos?
[00:10] <mhall119> and "multiverse" is closed-source stuff maintained by the community
[00:10] <mhall119> repos
[00:10] <bluebomber> In that line, deb is the protocol, http://...blah is the URI, and then those three are ... ah, ok, repos
[00:11] <bluebomber> The independent repo was killing me for almost 2 weeks.
[00:11] <bluebomber> (And many others)
[00:11] <mhall119> yeah, so its: protocol url release repo repo repo
[00:11] <bluebomber> Ahhh, ok, that makes even more sense.
[00:11] <mhall119> I'm not sure what independent is, maybe something from an older release?
[00:12] <bluebomber> idk. You don't have it, I take it?
[00:13] <bluebomber> I had it in 8 places.
[00:15] <bluebomber> So, our Ubuntu Wiki is defunct now?
[00:15] <bluebomber> mhall119: What's tomorrow?
[00:16] <mhall119> bluebomber: release day!
[00:16] <bluebomber> Well, yeah, but I thought you were referring to some physical event.
[00:16] <bluebomber> Are you going somewhere or doing something special? I don't see anything for tomorrow on the loco team portal.
[00:19] <bluebomber> hi, mhall119, itnet7 
[00:21] <mhall119> bluebomber: no, just hanging out online, making sure nothing explodes ;)
[00:21] <bluebomber> Cool!
[00:21] <bluebomber> I'll hang around, too.
[00:21] <bluebomber> I'm grading exams tomorrow. :-|
[01:15] <mhall119> better than taking them
[13:23] <dorgan> is the ubuntu site down??
[13:28] <mhall119> dorgan: not anymore
[13:29] <dorgan> you spin up the ubuntu cloud instances!!!   lol
[13:29] <mhall119> heh, no
[13:29] <mhall119> not my doing this time :)
[14:58] <dorgan> is there  a way to install a specific version of a given package?
[14:58] <dorgan> I need to spin up a new cloud instance but I need to to have the exact same version of mysql as another box, so that I can test the upgrade process
[14:59] <leftyfb> is there anyone around the Dade City area or can help someone out from there?
[15:10] <zoopster> leftyfb: help with what?
[15:11] <leftyfb> zoopster: he needs 12.04 burned to CD. He has no functioning OS
[15:13] <zoopster> leftyfb: bummer. I could attempt to download the iso and burn to a cd and mail it since I'm down in St. pete...he'd get it tomorrow
[19:39] <dorgan1> so have everyone upgraded?
[19:49] <itnet7> dorgan1: I have on most of my machines, how about you?
[19:50] <dorgan1> yeah...but it seems really sluggish on my machine, and every now and then the search bar appears on its own
[19:50] <dorgan1> i am thinking i might have to go with a clean install
[19:50] <itnet7> Were there any packages that are being held back?
[19:51] <dorgan> i dont think so, but i havent run an upgrade or a dist-upgrade today
[19:51] <dorgan> so i'll see if anything needs updating when i get home later
[19:51] <itnet7> Yeah!
[19:51] <itnet7> could be it, my older machine that I've been running 12.04 Beta 2 
[19:52] <itnet7> was updated this morning and it's seeming to do really well
[19:52] <dorgan> how old is that machine?
[19:52] <itnet7> It's about 5-6 years old, my silver dell inspiron 9300
[19:53] <itnet7> Intel(R) Pentium(R) M processor 2.00GHz with 2 Gb's of ram
[19:54] <dorgan> yeah i am running on an INSPIRON 1501
[19:54] <itnet7> I do have an nivida card in here
[19:54] <itnet7> so maybe the gpu is helping a bit with unity
[19:55] <dorgan> the processor is AMD Turion 1.8Ghz  i think it was one of the first 64-bit processors
[20:00] <dorgan> damn i should upgrade the ram i can get 4GB for $54
[20:01] <itnet7> That would definitely make a difference... especially if you're using 64-bit
[20:02] <dorgan> yeah
[20:03] <itnet7> I would love to upgrade the memory on my other dell. The only problem is the price gap... the no-name memory is 54 dollars to max it out, and crucial is like 160