| andygraybeal | Visig0th, SW, hey i'm SE | 00:00 |
|---|---|---|
| andygraybeal | what time EST is 12.04 going to be released? | 00:00 |
| andygraybeal | <cc11rocks> UTC 21:00...Can use an online converter if you want 'cause I'm lazy at the current moment | 00:00 |
| andygraybeal | Visig0th, you like the pinkdots or edward ka-spel? | 00:04 |
| Visig0th | Haven't heard of either andygraybeal, are they musical groups? | 00:11 |
| andygraybeal | yes, i'm judging you by your nick and it is a band from the 80s.. up through now. | 00:12 |
| andygraybeal | long time my favorite. i don't listen to much music anymore accept IDM though. | 00:13 |
| Visig0th | Ah, well my nick was chosen more than a decade ago when I used to do historical research, at the time I was studying the Visigothic and Ostrogothic peoples. | 00:18 |
| Visig0th | Musically I like some pop, electronic music, such as Joy Electric, NIN, Depeche Mode, and other groups that catch my attention. | 00:20 |
| andygraybeal | aah nice nice | 00:20 |
| andygraybeal | yes, i don't know joy electric, but i think i would like it. | 00:21 |
| andygraybeal | i'm so excited for 12.04 :) | 00:23 |
| Visig0th | I am too, looking forward to upgrading some servers. | 00:38 |
| Visig0th | Actually, I'm putting off a server move until its released with the hopes to make use of it. | 00:38 |
| andygraybeal | ah nice | 00:51 |
| andygraybeal | firstly, i'm can't wait to load it on my laptop. secondly the servers :) | 00:52 |
| * canthus13 avoided that trainwreck. | 00:52 | |
| * canthus13 will stay away from Unity, tyvm. :) | 00:53 | |
| andygraybeal | i'm happy w/ 10.04 :) well.. and the libreoffice ppa (i run a terminal server at work with userspace apps) | 00:53 |
| andygraybeal | i like unity, i don't know why people are so crabby about it. there are plenty of options anyway. | 00:53 |
| canthus13 | andygraybeal: yup. I switched to Mint. It's based on Ubuntu, uses many of the same packages. | 00:54 |
| andygraybeal | like i'm expecting to use the failback mode for our machines at work. | 00:54 |
| andygraybeal | but i will wait to make up my mind after i have tested everything. | 00:54 |
| * canthus13 prefers gnome 3 over unity, and openbox over most anything. :P | 00:55 | |
| andygraybeal | as far as alternatives go, i think i did scrotwm :) | 00:55 |
| andygraybeal | one, it sounds like my ball sack, two it's awesome. | 00:56 |
| andygraybeal | *dig | 00:56 |
| Cheri703 | Unit193: I will believe it when it isn't spelled valvle | 04:45 |
| Unit193 | http://www.phoronix.com/scan.php?page=article&item=valve_linux_dampfnudeln&num=1 (Wasn't loading before) | 04:46 |
| andygraybeal_ | ":)))) i got 12.04 :) | 14:34 |
| andygraybeal_ | it looks like lcars!!!!!!!!! | 14:34 |
| thafreak | when's the official launch for 12.04? | 14:55 |
| thafreak | is it like the 29th or something? | 14:55 |
| paultag | it launched today thafreak | 14:57 |
| paultag | thafreak: http://www.ubuntu.com/ | 14:57 |
| paultag | extremely on time | 14:57 |
| andygraybeal_ | it's today! | 15:03 |
| andygraybeal_ | #ubuntu-release-party :)))))) | 15:04 |
| andygraybeal_ | i already have it installed!!! | 15:04 |
| andygraybeal_ | yay | 15:04 |
| andygraybeal_ | i had to use the torrent, nothing else would work | 15:04 |
| Cheri703 | as with all releases, it raises the age old question: upgrade or fresh reinstall? | 15:40 |
| andygraybeal_ | fresh fresh, never upgrade .. ever ever. | 15:40 |
| thafreak | wow today, how odd...i thought it was always basically the very end of the month, like the 29th | 15:40 |
| Cheri703 | yeah, I hear that often, then hear people do find with upgrading | 15:41 |
| thafreak | sweet | 15:41 |
| Cheri703 | I don't have time to deal with reinstalling at this point, but I'd like to play with it | 15:41 |
| thafreak | well, i want to freshly install a base server that i can make clone'd vm's from :) | 15:41 |
| andygraybeal_ | make time, that's why it's a scheduled relelase :P | 15:41 |
| andygraybeal_ | yea, i run everythign in vms :) | 15:41 |
| Cheri703 | this week is CRAZY busy and I need to be cramming for a "deeply technical" interview on monday on top of working from home before and after work, aaand trying to study for sec+ test in a few weeks AND doing regular life stuff around the house >.< | 15:42 |
| thafreak | need to upgrade my remote desktop vm...and my ltsp vm | 15:42 |
| andygraybeal_ | ltsp ftw!!! | 15:42 |
| thafreak | Cheri703: unless you need the machine you're upgrading, can't you just let it do it's thing while you study :) | 15:43 |
| thafreak | Anyone know if there is anything new in the way of remote desktop stuff in precise? | 15:43 |
| thafreak | I'm currently using really old freenx stuff... | 15:44 |
| Cheri703 | but the re-setting up everything | 15:44 |
| Cheri703 | some of it requires hands-on | 15:44 |
| thafreak | bah, just do that as you go along :) | 15:44 |
| jrgifford | the pangolin is unleashed. | 15:44 |
| thafreak | hey, watch it, this is a family freindly channel... | 15:45 |
| thafreak | oh, wait, i see what you did there... | 15:45 |
| jrgifford | lol what thafreak ? ;) | 15:45 |
| thafreak | put your pangolin away...lol | 15:45 |
| * jrgifford facepalms | 15:45 | |
| andygraybeal_ | i use x2go | 15:46 |
| andygraybeal_ | but it's not new | 15:46 |
| andygraybeal_ | er i mean with 10.04 | 15:46 |
| Cheri703 | the other thought is to just hold off, as in a month or so I'm hoping to have saved up for a new (SIGNIFICANTLY more powerful) laptop, or I may be putting a new mobo in one around here | 15:46 |
| thafreak | i think that's what they switched to...or were talking of switching to, since it's actively developed | 15:46 |
| jrgifford | Cheri703: nah, trust me, don't hold off. | 15:46 |
| jrgifford | the performance gains that i get with 12.04 knocks 11.10 out of the water. | 15:46 |
| paultag | debian ftw | 15:46 |
| paultag | jrgifford: perhaps with Unity ;) | 15:47 |
| paultag | the rest of the OS is about the same | 15:47 |
| thafreak | even with full disk crypto? :) | 15:47 |
| paultag | fuck that mess | 15:47 |
| paultag | dd + gpg ftw :) | 15:47 |
| jrgifford | compiling everything seems to take less time as well, | 15:47 |
| thafreak | i just use dm crypt and LUKS containers... | 15:47 |
| jrgifford | but i'm not sure if that's my hard drive upgrade or the OS. ;) | 15:47 |
| paultag | placebo affect :) | 15:47 |
| paultag | the gcc toolchain is almost the same | 15:48 |
| thafreak | paultag is a placebo | 15:48 |
| thafreak | and a toolchain | 15:48 |
| paultag | gcc-4.7 is in debian, pending default | 15:48 |
| paultag | which will have some cool new changes | 15:48 |
| thafreak | so now the question is...64bit or not... | 15:51 |
| thafreak | been sticking with 32bit cause of flash... | 15:52 |
| paultag | I've switched because I (sadly) need it | 15:54 |
| paultag | because of mongodb and how it mmaps stuff | 15:54 |
| thafreak | probably don't need to keep around these older 9.04 and 9.10 iso's i guess | 15:54 |
| thafreak | i'll probably go back to 64bit again... | 15:54 |
| thafreak | worst that happens, is i'm stuck using chrome to watch hulu... | 15:55 |
| thafreak | amiright | 15:55 |
| locodir-user | Hello. | 16:29 |
| toddc | hi | 16:29 |
| locodir-user | How are you!? | 16:30 |
| thafreak | helo | 16:30 |
| toddc | great nice day all is well | 16:30 |
| toddc | downloading like a fool 12.04 :) | 16:31 |
| * yano is seeding 12.04 | 16:57 | |
| toddc | torrents are doing pretty good I got them all and seeding also | 17:02 |
| thafreak | love it...get my initial template system installed with 12.04 | 18:04 |
| thafreak | and there's already a kernel update | 18:04 |
| BiosElement | Sooo how's it goin folks? | 19:46 |
| Unit193 | Well, crazy day on Ubuntu channels. | 19:47 |
| paultag | livin' the dram, mang | 19:47 |
| BiosElement | Yeahh, I figured ubuntu would be crazy today. I'm having fun writing my resignation. >.> | 19:47 |
| Unit193 | And they're looking for a longer term fix for the Pandora clients, already a temp one. And that doesn't qutie sound good. | 19:48 |
| jrgifford | Unit193: yeah, so you're having issues with pianobar as well? | 19:56 |
| jrgifford | BiosElement: resignation? | 19:56 |
| BiosElement | jrgifford: Yeah, I'm quitting my existing job as Minecraft tech support. I will not be accused of not doing my job by a new hire. Not gonna happen. | 19:56 |
| Unit193 | Nope, it's been working since yesterday, and promy linked to a tempfix today. | 19:56 |
| jrgifford | Unit193: interesting. still broken for me. :( | 19:57 |
| Unit193 | You work with the one in packagemanager? | 19:57 |
| jrgifford | yeah | 19:57 |
| jrgifford | latest precise version | 19:57 |
| jrgifford | should i be using something else? | 19:58 |
| Unit193 | That's no good, Ubuntu repo is stale when it comes to that, and also it just came out. :P | 19:58 |
| Unit193 | Compile. | 19:58 |
| jrgifford | why can't he just write it in python or something so I don't have to compile? :p | 19:58 |
| jrgifford | ok, i'll try that tomorrow or something | 19:58 |
| _bbb_ | hi | 19:59 |
| _bbb_ | whats an ubuntu? | 19:59 |
| Unit193 | jrgifford: Not on git yet, either you'll have to grab the patch too, or grab the one I have up. :P | 20:00 |
| jrgifford | Unit193: i'll just wait. | 20:00 |
| Unit193 | Heh, it's really not hard, but there's always that. | 20:01 |
| jrgifford | i'll just catch up on my podcasts, i've gotten really far behind. | 20:01 |
| jrgifford | _bbb_: ubuntu is an operating system | 20:01 |
| _bbb_ | yeah im just joshin | 20:04 |
| toddc | whew | 20:07 |
| jandrusk | I thought Ubuntu was an African philosophy ==> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ubuntu_%28philosophy%29 | 20:48 |
| BiosElement | And an operating system ==> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ubuntu_(operating_system) | 20:55 |
| Unit193 | So weird!@ | 20:55 |
| jandrusk | Forgot my work laptop this morning and have been having Emacs withdrawal. | 20:56 |
| paultag | the only reason to use emacs is org mode | 20:57 |
| paultag | and that's not enough to make me use it | 20:57 |
| paultag | vimftw | 20:57 |
| paultag | oh man | 20:57 |
| paultag | vimftw.tumblr.com ← that would be awesome | 20:57 |
| Unit193 | xkcd. :D | 20:58 |
| jandrusk | I use it for org-mode, writing email, and other modes too numerous to mention. | 20:58 |
| paultag | emacs is such a pita | 20:58 |
| * BiosElement waves his "Sublime Text 2 FTW" flag | 20:58 | |
| paultag | a lot of pythonists I know use sublime | 20:59 |
| paultag | I like it, but it's nonfree | 20:59 |
| jandrusk | I consider it more of my OS than the Xubuntu instance that it runs on. Not to mention eShell and dired. | 20:59 |
| jandrusk | But that's just me. | 20:59 |
| BiosElement | It's nonfree but it's got an unlimited trial and the majority of the bits are open source if not f/oss. | 20:59 |
| jandrusk | What about the GNU version is nonfree? | 21:00 |
| paultag | EMACS is nonfree, it shipped some yacc files people lost the source | 21:00 |
| paultag | was, I think rms finally fixed it | 21:00 |
| paultag | BiosElement: it's nonfree, and I can't stand it :( | 21:00 |
| BiosElement | I never caught stallman syndrome. :P It's great to have em around but I'd never want to be them. Much rather prove linux devs are willing to pay for what helps them. | 21:01 |
| paultag | sorry? | 21:03 |
| paultag | free as in freedom, not beer | 21:03 |
| paultag | there are for-pay f/oss apps that do just fine | 21:03 |
| BiosElement | paultag: I know what you mean. | 21:03 |
| paultag | I get paid for F/OSS | 21:03 |
| paultag | that's a hella strawman | 21:03 |
| BiosElement | Not sure how you see that as a strawman, it's a fair opinion statement. | 21:06 |
| paultag | F/OSS != pay | 21:06 |
| paultag | the issue of f/oss is not connected with pay | 21:06 |
| BiosElement | Very true, however the logic used by folks who see it either way is not wrong. There simply isn't a right answer for everyone. | 21:07 |
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