[00:00] Visig0th, SW, hey i'm SE [00:00] what time EST is 12.04 going to be released? [00:00] UTC 21:00...Can use an online converter if you want 'cause I'm lazy at the current moment [00:04] Visig0th, you like the pinkdots or edward ka-spel? [00:11] Haven't heard of either andygraybeal, are they musical groups? [00:12] yes, i'm judging you by your nick and it is a band from the 80s.. up through now. [00:13] long time my favorite. i don't listen to much music anymore accept IDM though. [00:18] Ah, well my nick was chosen more than a decade ago when I used to do historical research, at the time I was studying the Visigothic and Ostrogothic peoples. [00:20] Musically I like some pop, electronic music, such as Joy Electric, NIN, Depeche Mode, and other groups that catch my attention. [00:20] aah nice nice [00:21] yes, i don't know joy electric, but i think i would like it. [00:23] i'm so excited for 12.04 :) [00:38] I am too, looking forward to upgrading some servers. [00:38] Actually, I'm putting off a server move until its released with the hopes to make use of it. [00:51] ah nice [00:52] firstly, i'm can't wait to load it on my laptop. secondly the servers :) [00:52] * canthus13 avoided that trainwreck. [00:53] * canthus13 will stay away from Unity, tyvm. :) [00:53] i'm happy w/ 10.04 :) well.. and the libreoffice ppa (i run a terminal server at work with userspace apps) [00:53] i like unity, i don't know why people are so crabby about it. there are plenty of options anyway. [00:54] andygraybeal: yup. I switched to Mint. It's based on Ubuntu, uses many of the same packages. [00:54] like i'm expecting to use the failback mode for our machines at work. [00:54] but i will wait to make up my mind after i have tested everything. [00:55] * canthus13 prefers gnome 3 over unity, and openbox over most anything. :P [00:55] as far as alternatives go, i think i did scrotwm :) [00:56] one, it sounds like my ball sack, two it's awesome. [00:56] *dig [04:45] Unit193: I will believe it when it isn't spelled valvle [04:46] http://www.phoronix.com/scan.php?page=article&item=valve_linux_dampfnudeln&num=1 (Wasn't loading before) [14:34] ":)))) i got 12.04 :) [14:34] it looks like lcars!!!!!!!!! [14:55] when's the official launch for 12.04? [14:55] is it like the 29th or something? [14:57] it launched today thafreak [14:57] thafreak: http://www.ubuntu.com/ [14:57] extremely on time [15:03] it's today! [15:04] #ubuntu-release-party :)))))) [15:04] i already have it installed!!! [15:04] yay [15:04] i had to use the torrent, nothing else would work [15:40] as with all releases, it raises the age old question: upgrade or fresh reinstall? [15:40] fresh fresh, never upgrade .. ever ever. [15:40] wow today, how odd...i thought it was always basically the very end of the month, like the 29th [15:41] yeah, I hear that often, then hear people do find with upgrading [15:41] sweet [15:41] I don't have time to deal with reinstalling at this point, but I'd like to play with it [15:41] well, i want to freshly install a base server that i can make clone'd vm's from :) [15:41] make time, that's why it's a scheduled relelase :P [15:41] yea, i run everythign in vms :) [15:42] this week is CRAZY busy and I need to be cramming for a "deeply technical" interview on monday on top of working from home before and after work, aaand trying to study for sec+ test in a few weeks AND doing regular life stuff around the house >.< [15:42] need to upgrade my remote desktop vm...and my ltsp vm [15:42] ltsp ftw!!! [15:43] Cheri703: unless you need the machine you're upgrading, can't you just let it do it's thing while you study :) [15:43] Anyone know if there is anything new in the way of remote desktop stuff in precise? [15:44] I'm currently using really old freenx stuff... [15:44] but the re-setting up everything [15:44] some of it requires hands-on [15:44] bah, just do that as you go along :) [15:44] the pangolin is unleashed. [15:45] hey, watch it, this is a family freindly channel... [15:45] oh, wait, i see what you did there... [15:45] lol what thafreak ? ;) [15:45] put your pangolin away...lol [15:45] * jrgifford facepalms [15:46] i use x2go [15:46] but it's not new [15:46] er i mean with 10.04 [15:46] the other thought is to just hold off, as in a month or so I'm hoping to have saved up for a new (SIGNIFICANTLY more powerful) laptop, or I may be putting a new mobo in one around here [15:46] i think that's what they switched to...or were talking of switching to, since it's actively developed [15:46] Cheri703: nah, trust me, don't hold off. [15:46] the performance gains that i get with 12.04 knocks 11.10 out of the water. [15:46] debian ftw [15:47] jrgifford: perhaps with Unity ;) [15:47] the rest of the OS is about the same [15:47] even with full disk crypto? :) [15:47] fuck that mess [15:47] dd + gpg ftw :) [15:47] compiling everything seems to take less time as well, [15:47] i just use dm crypt and LUKS containers... [15:47] but i'm not sure if that's my hard drive upgrade or the OS. ;) [15:47] placebo affect :) [15:48] the gcc toolchain is almost the same [15:48] paultag is a placebo [15:48] and a toolchain [15:48] gcc-4.7 is in debian, pending default [15:48] which will have some cool new changes [15:51] so now the question is...64bit or not... [15:52] been sticking with 32bit cause of flash... [15:54] I've switched because I (sadly) need it [15:54] because of mongodb and how it mmaps stuff [15:54] probably don't need to keep around these older 9.04 and 9.10 iso's i guess [15:54] i'll probably go back to 64bit again... [15:55] worst that happens, is i'm stuck using chrome to watch hulu... [15:55] amiright [16:29] Hello. [16:29] hi [16:30] How are you!? [16:30] helo [16:30] great nice day all is well [16:31] downloading like a fool 12.04 :) [16:57] * yano is seeding 12.04 [17:02] torrents are doing pretty good I got them all and seeding also [18:04] love it...get my initial template system installed with 12.04 [18:04] and there's already a kernel update [19:46] Sooo how's it goin folks? [19:47] Well, crazy day on Ubuntu channels. [19:47] livin' the dram, mang [19:47] Yeahh, I figured ubuntu would be crazy today. I'm having fun writing my resignation. >.> [19:48] And they're looking for a longer term fix for the Pandora clients, already a temp one. And that doesn't qutie sound good. [19:56] Unit193: yeah, so you're having issues with pianobar as well? [19:56] BiosElement: resignation? [19:56] jrgifford: Yeah, I'm quitting my existing job as Minecraft tech support. I will not be accused of not doing my job by a new hire. Not gonna happen. [19:56] Nope, it's been working since yesterday, and promy linked to a tempfix today. [19:57] Unit193: interesting. still broken for me. :( [19:57] You work with the one in packagemanager? [19:57] yeah [19:57] latest precise version [19:58] should i be using something else? [19:58] That's no good, Ubuntu repo is stale when it comes to that, and also it just came out. :P [19:58] Compile. [19:58] why can't he just write it in python or something so I don't have to compile? :p [19:58] ok, i'll try that tomorrow or something [19:59] <_bbb_> hi [19:59] <_bbb_> whats an ubuntu? [20:00] jrgifford: Not on git yet, either you'll have to grab the patch too, or grab the one I have up. :P [20:00] Unit193: i'll just wait. [20:01] Heh, it's really not hard, but there's always that. [20:01] i'll just catch up on my podcasts, i've gotten really far behind. [20:01] _bbb_: ubuntu is an operating system [20:04] <_bbb_> yeah im just joshin [20:07] whew [20:48] I thought Ubuntu was an African philosophy ==> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ubuntu_%28philosophy%29 [20:55] And an operating system ==> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ubuntu_(operating_system) [20:55] So weird!@ [20:56] Forgot my work laptop this morning and have been having Emacs withdrawal. [20:57] the only reason to use emacs is org mode [20:57] and that's not enough to make me use it [20:57] vimftw [20:57] oh man [20:57] vimftw.tumblr.com ← that would be awesome [20:58] xkcd. :D [20:58] I use it for org-mode, writing email, and other modes too numerous to mention. [20:58] emacs is such a pita [20:58] * BiosElement waves his "Sublime Text 2 FTW" flag [20:59] a lot of pythonists I know use sublime [20:59] I like it, but it's nonfree [20:59] I consider it more of my OS than the Xubuntu instance that it runs on. Not to mention eShell and dired. [20:59] But that's just me. [20:59] It's nonfree but it's got an unlimited trial and the majority of the bits are open source if not f/oss. [21:00] What about the GNU version is nonfree? [21:00] EMACS is nonfree, it shipped some yacc files people lost the source [21:00] was, I think rms finally fixed it [21:00] BiosElement: it's nonfree, and I can't stand it :( [21:01] I never caught stallman syndrome. :P It's great to have em around but I'd never want to be them. Much rather prove linux devs are willing to pay for what helps them. [21:03] sorry? [21:03] free as in freedom, not beer [21:03] there are for-pay f/oss apps that do just fine [21:03] paultag: I know what you mean. [21:03] I get paid for F/OSS [21:03] that's a hella strawman [21:06] Not sure how you see that as a strawman, it's a fair opinion statement. [21:06] F/OSS != pay [21:06] the issue of f/oss is not connected with pay [21:07] Very true, however the logic used by folks who see it either way is not wrong. There simply isn't a right answer for everyone.