[00:00] *having [00:00] guest0012983: why not just run as a regular user and use sudo for things you need root for? [00:00] this way thinking once get setup way want then can do new wubi that way === jlen is now known as palomer [00:00] Hello guys. [00:00] guest0012983: did you try 'su user1 firefox' or somesuch? [00:00] DarwinSurvivor, i get this error http://pastebin.com/27ZQHeRQ [00:01] I'm currently using Ubuntu 11.10 and I can't move my windows to the right side of the screen to make them resize. [00:01] majnoon:: im not familiar with wubi. like i said, im not an ubuntu person. just here to ask a question about a 12.04 mirror for precise daily. installing on my dad's desktop. [00:01] Is it just me or the gnome-look.org is not working? [00:01] I'm not sure what that feature is called :/ [00:01] hellosputnik:: called snapping [00:01] well is ponter in correct direction any way [00:01] godmachine81, how do I enable snap? [00:02] Compiz i think. [00:02] majnoon: you'd really be better off running ubuntu from virtualbox than using wubi. JUst sayin' [00:02] hellosputnik:: if i knew i'd tell you, but i don't. sorry [00:02] !wubi [00:02] Wubi is an Ubuntu installer for Windows users that allows you to install and uninstall Ubuntu like a Windows application, in a simple and safe way. http://wubi-installer.org/support.php and https://wiki.ubuntu.com/WubiGuide for troubleshooting. Please file bugs at http://launchpad.net/wubi/+filebug. For Ubuntu Oneiric/11.10 http://releases.ubuntu.com/oneiric/wubi.exe [00:02] no can use tvcard in virtual machine :( [00:02] I am having diffuclties installing Ubuntu on my friends lap top [00:02] yuck [00:02] wylde, i will try that first, and if no go then DarwinSurvivor, i will make a pastebin of all that stuff, already have it in a text file now [00:02] thanks guys [00:03] People,seriously.Can anyone open http://www.gnome-look.org ? :D [00:03] Is it just me? [00:04] not working Steevca [00:04] Steevca: http://www.downforeveryoneorjustme.com/www.gnome-look.org [00:04] >.< [00:04] DarwinSurvivor: Oh,yeah.I tottaly forgot about that site. [00:04] downforeveryoneorjustme is a good site. but i can't ever remember the exact URL to it [00:04] its too long [00:04] godmachine81, it work okies but NO recomend updating from within it :) [00:04] i always want to try downforeveryoneorisitjustme [00:04] There are similar websites with a shorter url. [00:05] yea [00:05] *upgrading [00:05] majnoon:: i don't recommend altering linux systems from inside windows. hell i dont recommend doing anything from within windows [00:05] Moon_Doggy: Hmm, I'm out of ideas then. I highly recommend trying the #xorg channel, those guys could probably write the config from memory [00:05] i have installed wubi a few times [00:05] http://news.softpedia.com/news/Ubuntu-11-10-Desktop-Customization-Guide-242549.shtml I ma trying to get my desktop to look like this,but i can't download the themes because of gnome-look.Does anyobady know a site where i can find Zukitwo and Zukini GTK3 Themes ? [00:05] no it uses a file as a virt hd [00:06] it a FULL ubuntu install [00:06] Steevca: did you try googling the theme name? [00:06] I have a question that may not be ubuntu related, but maybe hardware. I'm having an issue where my computer will restart whenever I am trying to load a game or do heavy amounts of multitasking. [00:06] majnoon:: is there some reason you can't just do a regular install? === Cristiano is now known as Guest42810 [00:06] mom's machine :( [00:06] willdabeast:: you checked your cpu temp? [00:06] DarwinSurvivor: Lol.I am getting so tired now,i am forgeting the basic stuff. xD Thanks,i think. xD [00:07] willdabeast:: you probably have a malfunctioning cooling system or the heatsink isn't seated properly.. or possibly bad memory [00:07] godmachine81 I have not, any way to easily? [00:07] willdabeast: dusted inside the case lately? :) [00:07] willdabeast: test your RAM using memtest from Grub [00:07] willdabeast:: yes sensors [00:07] Found them on deviatart. xDD [00:07] wohoo [00:07] willdabeast, is it overheating? [00:07] willdabeast: reboot and run memtest. CPU/GPU intensive apps also use a lot of memory and tend to trigger issues if a ram stick is ba [00:07] willdabeast: reboot and run memtest. CPU/GPU intensive apps also use a lot of memory and tend to trigger issues if a ram stick is bad [00:07] escott:: ^^ [00:08] Is there a reason you're instructing people to destroy their systems? [00:08] http://pastebin.com/J4nB7DBt [00:08] https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Skype [00:08] I'm trying to help someone with installing Skype, and the instructions you're giving users will end up causing a shit storm. [00:08] You should sincerely fix that [00:08] Just so you're aware. [00:08] darwinsurvivor memtest didnt have any errors, I have 2 ram sticks that I have swapped and used one or the other. My one issue is that under properties, it lists 4gb of memory as 3.25 gb [00:08] JCDenton: whom are you addressnig exactly? [00:09] JCDenton:: is the instructions on an official ubuntu page? or is it some 3rd party site? [00:09] JCDenton: thats how skype runs in 64bit [00:09] ActionParsnip, Whoever actually cares. This is why I don't use Ubuntu [00:09] JCDenton: skype is proprietary, so you need to moan at skype. === aaass is now known as aaas [00:09] godmachine81, Did you read what I said? [00:09] wildc4rd: some memory may have been allocated to the video card by your bios [00:09] help.ubuntu.com is ubuntu.com last time I checked [00:09] JCDenton: if skype made a genuine 64bit client, you'd be ok [00:09] willdabeast, if you are running 32bit you see 4GB-video card [00:09] i read as much as i could without getting behind on the chat. [00:09] JCDenton: nothing to do with Ubuntu, so you are moaning in completely the wrong place [00:10] escott so ur saying, I should be seeing it for 32 bit? [00:10] The user is suing 32bit [00:10] not 64bit [00:10] skype isn't hard to install or configure. doesn't really need a guide to install it [00:10] JCDenton: skype is trying to replace a FUNDAMENTAL piece of ubuntu with their PPA. Please bring up the issue with them as their package is *defective* [00:10] JCDenton: yes, but the OS is multiarch under 64bit so you can run 32bit apps.. [00:10] willdabeast, no that "-" is a minus. sorry not being clear. you see less than 4gb [00:10] JCDenton: just like you can in windows... [00:10] just install the 32bit compatibility libraries, and install skype. and done [00:10] Is there a website i can check and see how each resolution would look like on my dekstop? [00:11] Steevca: www.whatismyscreenresolution.com [00:11] having fun here ,2 keyboards,2 mouses,3 monitors :) [00:11] JCDenton:: if user is using 32bit then all they need to do is install the native libs + skype [00:11] escott o I gotcha, sry. Ok so I have a feeling that it may be cpu temp, it says 57 celcius. Which isn't too crazy [00:11] JCDenton: I suggest you install 32bit Ubuntu with PAE kernel if it bother you so much, sounds like its just for web accessing and such which doesn't benefit much from 64bitness [00:11] willdabeast:: 57 at idle or load [00:12] alright peeps, need help again [00:12] godmachine at load [00:12] godmachine i mean idle sry [00:12] I need help with rsync one more time [00:12] godmachine81 sry i mean idle [00:12] check temp under load [00:12] APoulos: fire away [00:12] willdabeast: 57 at idle is awfully high. [00:12] what time will ubuntu 12.04 be released? [00:12] APoulos: grsync is handy for rsync stuff [00:12] #moparscape [00:12] lcc: ask in #ubuntu+1 for Precise stuffs [00:12] wylde:: not too high on some laptops [00:13] lcc: the time is not known, sometime tomorrow 26th in North America [00:13] DarwinSurvivor, here's the command: rsync --progress -rEog --exclude-from='excludes.txt /home/alex/ /media/backup/12.04-Precise-backup_4.23.2012/ [00:13] godmachine81 and wylde, you think the only way to fix it is to replace cpu or reapply the glue? [00:13] godmachine81: true, didn't cacth if he was on a lappy or desktop. [00:13] willdabeast:: its not glue [00:13] :( [00:13] willdabeast: thermal paste [00:13] ty anyways DarwinSurvivor [00:13] willdabeast:: you need some good thermal compound (not glue) make sure it is seated properly, and don't use too much of the compound [00:13] willdabeast, 57 at idle is high. I only get that when flash starts trying to compute the last digit of pi using all 4 cores [00:13] Moon_Doggy: no problem [00:13] The lack of the snap feature is making me so sad :( [00:14] willdabeast:: it only takes about the size of a BB, and don't spread it out. it will spread by its self when the temp heats up [00:14] APoulos: and what do you need help with? [00:14] godmachine81 and wylde sry yea i meant that lol multitasking. Any place to get it cheap and should I just google how to reapply it? [00:14] ok [00:14] One more thing.How can i move the unity shell,the dock on the left side to the bottom? [00:14] willdabeast: the system I'm on now has been under 100% load for 3 hours or so, I'm running at 54 degrees. [00:14] man.... lots of people here...... [00:14] willdabeast:: just the size of a BB in the center. place heatsink on the cpu snuggly holding pressure down on it for aprox 30 seconds [00:14] hi people! [00:14] DarwinSurvivor, everytime I try and use gsync to copy over files to that drive, even wtihout the "=excludes.txt" and use "--exclude filenamehere" I get an error when copying over files [00:14] Howdy-do! I'm new with Ubuntu and I installed Compiz Settings Manger. [00:15] Steevca: not possible yet, possibly in precise but not positive [00:15] godmachine81 alright sweet thanks so much. So no replacement cpu thats the good news hopefully c: [00:15] willdabeast:: then tighten the heatsink down. run the cpu at full load for 20 - 30 minutes so that the compound will spread out properly [00:15] It stopped working, but I tried running the command compiz --replace. [00:15] Steevca: there is an unofficial PPA, it is known to cause issues [00:15] willdabeast:: if cpu was broke it wouldn't work half the time [00:15] DarwinSurvivor, this is what it gives me: "Downloads/Windows.7.Ultimate.32-64Bit.(2011-02-09).iso [00:15] 3809312768 83% 21.03MB/s 0:00:35 [00:15] rsync: writefd_unbuffered failed to write 4 bytes to socket [sender]: Broken pipe (32) [00:15] rsync: connection unexpectedly closed (70735 bytes received so far) [sender] [00:15] rsync error: error in rsync protocol data stream (code 12) at io.c(605) [sender=3.0.9]" [00:15] That worked temporarily, but it still doesn't keep my compiz going permanently. [00:15] :( [00:15] willdabeast: godmachine81 <<---- what he's saying. Although, if it's a desktop, open the case and see if fans/heatsinks are clogged with dust, and if your fans are working. [00:15] willdabeast:: if cpu was broke it would not work at all.. [00:15] Is there anything I can do? [00:15] APoulos: please run the command directly in a terminal, then pastebin the output === VGoff is now known as VGoff_afk [00:16] !pastebin | APoulos [00:16] APoulos: For posting multi-line texts into the channel, please use http://paste.ubuntu.com | To post !screenshots use http://imagebin.org/?page=add | !pastebinit to paste directly from command line | Make sure you give us the URL for your paste - see also the channel topic. [00:16] wylde and godmachine ty so much, wish i could +karma you guys or thank u on irc ;) [00:16] willdabeast:: yes removing dust may help. but also making sure that you have the appropriate fancontrol settings in linux will help too [00:16] does sommeone knows if the final version of ubuntu 12.04 is already out? [00:16] godmachine81 ah gotcha [00:17] godmachine81 I had the fan control jacked up just to help it [00:17] !outyet | celso_ [00:17] celso_: Nope! Ubuntu 12.04 is scheduled for release sometime on April 26th. You can party in #ubuntu-release-party while you're waiting! [00:17] first things i'd check would be the fan speed sensor if your motherboard supports it. and make sure that pwmconfig/fancontrol are controlling the fan properly [00:17] willdabeast: glad to help when I can :) Imma shup now though before we get slapped with an !ot :P [00:17] hi guys [00:17] thank you ubottu!!!! [00:17] willdabeast:: yes we need to try not to go offtopic too much. you are welcome to talk to me in another channel im in that isn't so strict about irc guidelines [00:18] ubuntu 12.04 is due tomorrow? [00:18] yooozy: yes [00:18] !outyet | yooozy [00:18] yooozy: Nope! Ubuntu 12.04 is scheduled for release sometime on April 26th. You can party in #ubuntu-release-party while you're waiting! [00:18] i am asking because i already saw in the calendar that is already out! [00:18] great! congrats to all you all!! [00:18] godmachine81 ill just pm you thanks ;) [00:19] /join #ubuntu-relaese-party [00:19] ubottu, ok going there [00:19] yooozy: I am only a bot, please don't think I'm intelligent :) [00:19] ahaha [00:19] didnt know XD [00:19] ubottu, really?! what ever.. [00:19] yooozy: I am only a bot, please don't think I'm intelligent :) [00:20] !deja |intrader [00:20] /me test === VGoff_afk is now known as VGoff [00:21] Hello everybody! I'm new with Ubuntu. I installed Compizconfig, but the settings are not sticking. The only way it works is if I run the command compiz --replace. However, once I log off or restart, Compiz still will not work. [00:21] hey guys when running a service like owncloud via ubuntu do the owncloud users need to have their own directory in the pc [00:23] what is the equivalent of gnome-panel in gnome3? [00:23] taschrant, what version of ubuntu [00:24] taschrant: have you read https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompositeManager ? [00:24] Ubuntu 11.04 (I think). [00:24] taschrant, and what exactly are you trying to do with compiz [00:25] an its unity [00:25] thanks [00:25] I want to use the scale effect for managing my windows and customize the positions on the screen to show the desktop. [00:26] when will 12.04 come out?It's 26th already [00:26] sudipta, you can install it now [00:26] sudipta, Ive been using it for weeks its wondeful [00:27] taschrant, hmm thats a little advanced for me honestly i stay away from compiz it is great for effects and what not but hard to configure properly sometime [00:27] shaneo:but the site shows a link to beta 2.Want to grab the final release of the LTS.BTW, I'm in India,so any chance of time delay??? [00:27] Ah. [00:28] sudipta, go check #ubuntu-release-party [00:28] Is there a way I can have an expose-effect (like the Macs) in Ubuntu without Compiz then? [00:28] sudipta, Beta2 is pretty stable and worth installing [00:28] therefore when final comes out you'll just need a few updates [00:29] sudipta, also website in US says final beta === enchilad1 is now known as enchilado [00:31] anyone good with BNC here? [00:31] need some help setting up mine [00:31] DarwinSurvivor, http://pastebin.com/ar0C3XXz [00:32] thanks for trying to help [00:32] smint^^: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/BNC_connector ? [00:32] this is turning out to be a real pain [00:32] I just want to leave here a huge thank you to all the developers that worked hard to make such a good OS that ubuntu is! THANK YOU ALL ! :D [00:32] DarwinSurvivor no, I mean a IRC Bouncer [00:32] but i appreiate your help [00:32] smint^^: oh [00:32] Anyone know how to set up a IRC bouncer? [00:33] I'm a newbie I'm using ubuntu via wubi from a windows pc, do I need an A/V [00:33] yeah darwin, thats my problem [00:34] anyone good with IRC BNC here? [00:35] gizmo, A/V? [00:35] hes talking about antivirus [00:35] oh [00:36] alright, [00:36] here's what I need to know [00:36] physically_fit: Anti Virus [00:36] What should I do if my window-snapping isn't working? [00:36] slap it [00:36] how do I exclude folders beginning in "." [00:36] ? [00:36] gizmo: the windows host should have A/V to protect itself and anything you download with linux should be scanned if you plan to open it in windows later [00:36] from rsync? [00:36] I need assistance with a Fresh Install of 11.10. After the install is complete and booting for the first time I get a bunch of udevd[96]: timeout: killing /sbin/modprobe -bv pci. Then it freezes when it get to a bnx2 error. [00:37] hi [00:37] thanks Darwin [00:37] approx. when is 12.04 supposed to be released? [00:37] DarwinSurvivor, how do I exclude any folders and files that begin with "." from the backup? [00:38] guest0012983: looks like root is protecting it's X session (good thing). I recommend not running a GUI as root anyways. *Why* are you logging in as root in the first place? [00:38] APoulos: you mean exclude hiden files/folders? [00:38] yes sir [00:38] APoulos: http://wiki.ljackson.us/Rsync#Hidden_Files [00:38] DarwinSurvivor, is there anyway to backup my .deb packages installed as well? [00:39] APoulos: a list of installed packages, or the deb files themselves? [00:39] APoulos, aptoncd is your man [00:39] DarwinSurvivor, yes and perhaps the .deb files themselves too [00:39] I need assistance with a Fresh Install of 11.10. After the install is complete and booting for the first time I get a bunch of udevd[96]: timeout: killing /sbin/modprobe -bv pci. Then it freezes when it get to a bnx2 error. [00:40] APoulos: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=261366 for the list [00:40] APoulos, http://aptoncd.sourceforge.net/ [00:40] apwbdjp, I already used aptoncd [00:40] DarwinSurvivor, when i use backtrack i need to be logged in as root [00:41] i dont do much web browsing from backtrack, its not a good idea anyways [00:41] APoulos: all .deb files *should* be in /var/cache/apt/ [00:41] but sometimes i like to watch video tutorials and stuff [00:41] guest0012983: when you use the backtrack software, or the distribution? [00:41] apwbdjp, AptonCD doesnt copy any .config or .gconfid files does it? [00:41] the distrobution [00:42] Anyone, I have a /home backup done via deja on 10.10. Another laptop has been prepared with 11.10. Attempt to do a full restore using deja fails on account of deja asking for Encryption password. I did not write the backup with encryption, so I don't understand why it wants a password. How do I restore? [00:42] APoulos, no, it only backs up the .deb files [00:42] guest0012983: backtrack is not an official ubuntu derivative, please contact the backtrack developers directly for assistance with their distrobution [00:42] i am trying all of this from my ubuntu partition so that i can just log out and back in again [00:43] Also, last question, Boot-repair hung a bit and never fixed my grub menu, is there a way I can do the same job and fix my grub menu? [00:43] unfortunately every derivative distro likes to tweak things, so without knowing what they have changed, we can't help you much [00:43] i understand [00:44] I need assistance with a Fresh Install of 11.10. After the install is complete and booting for the first time I get a bunch of udevd[96]: timeout: killing /sbin/modprobe -bv pci. Then it freezes when it get to a bnx2 error. [00:44] guest0012983: if backtrack requires you to be logged in as root (something ubuntu does NOT do), that is an issue you need to bring up with *them* [00:44] although it is basically just ubuntu with different PPAs... could we pretend that i am using backbox? since the problem would be the exact same in backbox and backbox is ubuntu supported [00:44] Can someone help me get my sound working again. It was working and my son used headphones on my laptop and then I could barely hear the sound. I reloaded 11.10 and not I can't get sound at al [00:44] *all [00:45] the consensus on ubuntu is that you should never be logged in as root unless you are doing something VERY exceptional (such as HDD recovery) [00:45] if not its cool, i do appreciate all of your help thus far [00:45] I checked alsamixer and the second Master was muted so I unmuted it [00:46] guest0012983: I don't think backbox IS a Canonical endorsed distro at all [00:46] Can someone help me out [00:46] okays... thanks for all the help anyways [00:46] at least i ruled some stuff out [00:47] jeral: the headphones are unplugged now right? (just verifying the obvious) [00:47] I wish some one would help me [00:47] bye [00:47] L) [00:47] :) [00:47] awisepilot: can you pastebin all the output? [00:47] sure :) [00:48] How would I list a set of directories to exclude from btw - like --exclude=exclude.txt - where would I put that txt file? [00:49] hi [00:49] i try to install libstdc++6 [00:49] but it is inactive. [00:49] http://s17.postimage.org/kok71xpvj/libstdc_6.png [00:50] how can I install that one? [00:50] !info libstd [00:50] Package libstd does not exist in oneiric [00:50] How do I edit my workspaces in Ubuntu 11.10? [00:51] I want more than 4 and I want them to be linear. [00:51] I dislike having to use the up and down arrow keys to switch between my workspaces :( [00:51] How do you make all the changes you did in Alsamixer stay [00:51] I keep having the second Master Channel go back to Mute [00:53] Hello can someone help me out [00:53] apwbdjp: you can put the text file anywheres, just replace "exclude.txt" in the command with the location of the actual file [00:54] hellosputnik: you can do it in CCSM === manu is now known as Guest6774 [00:54] I have been trying all of the methods of installing Sun Java 6 JRE from https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Java and none of them work. Who do I tell the documentation is not correct? [00:54] DarwinSurvivor, not me, I believe ^^ It's alright, just make sure the guy got it [00:55] it should be active , right? http://s17.postimage.org/kok71xpvj/libstdc_6.png [00:55] apwbdjp: sorry, looks like he left and autocomplete switched to your name [00:55] hello [00:55] !CCSM [00:55] To enable advanced customization of desktop effects in Ubuntu: install 'compizconfig-settings-manager' (or 'simple-ccsm' for pre-Oneiric). If you install the latter, a new option will appear in your appearance properties - See also !compiz - Help in #compiz [00:56] Thanks ActionParsnip. [00:56] kip: could you please be more specific than "does not work"? [00:57] any idea when archive.getdeb.net will be back? [00:57] kip: are you getting errors, does java not execute, does it crash, etc? [00:57] heya [00:57] Each way has a different error, and will not complete. [00:57] ryoohki: please try #getdeb [00:58] DarwinSurvivor: thanks! [00:58] kip: please pastebin your attempts with the output you got [00:58] !pastebin | kip [00:58] kip: For posting multi-line texts into the channel, please use http://paste.ubuntu.com | To post !screenshots use http://imagebin.org/?page=add | !pastebinit to paste directly from command line | Make sure you give us the URL for your paste - see also the channel topic. [00:59] O.K. I will try to figure out the paste.ubuntu.com BRB [01:00] Anyone know when 10.04 will no longer be updated? [01:00] ok anyone know of a good FREE windows xserver to connect to linux box ?? [01:00] myr: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ubuntu_%28operating_system%29#Releases [01:01] DarwinSurvivor, thanks [01:01] hi, is there any way to find a text file that I modified 15 days ago ? [01:01] HoNgOuRu: do you know the name of it? [01:01] precise im coming [01:01] DarwinSurvivor, ofcourse not [01:02] HoNgOuRu: do you know what folder it was in, what permissions it had, the *precise* date, etc? [01:02] yes, my home folder [01:02] HoNgOuRu: knowing the size and/or content (even a few words) will help [01:02] yes, precise date... [01:02] no [01:02] no words [01:02] HoNgOuRu: do you remember what war IN the file (even a few words)? [01:03] DarwinSurvivor, no [01:03] just 3 consecutive numbers [01:03] but Im not sure [01:03] majnoon, xming? [01:03] HoNgOuRu: stupid question: how can a file you know nothing about be important enough to save...? [01:03] DarwinSurvivor, a telephone number [01:03] HoNgOuRu: do you know what the numbers were? [01:03] ah [01:03] I guess [01:03] is there any "find " something? [01:04] can I look for a particular period of time? [01:04] I know the date and time [01:04] HoNgOuRu: http://www.cyberciti.biz/faq/linux-unix-osxfind-files-by-date/ [01:04] HoNgOuRu, find can do that [01:04] HoNgOuRu: yes, the "find" command will search for files by name, size, permissions & date. "grep" will search INSIDE the files for a pattern or a piece of text [01:04] i just switched our syslog serer from syslog-ng to rsyslog (4.2.0, on ubuntu 10.04), and rsyslog is using up 100% of the cpu.. [01:05] its working, but its stuck idlign @ 100% as it brings in a few logs from our remote servers [01:05] majnoon: xming [01:05] DarwinSurvivor: Here are my two post http://imagebin.org/209756 and http://imagebin.org/209757 [01:05] kip: did you get my PM? [01:05] HoNgOuRu: do you remember ANYTHING about the filename (ex: ending in .txt or something)? [01:06] I am back. The paste is http://paste.ubuntu.com/946617/ [01:07] kip: did you get my link? [01:07] Just found it. [01:07] kip: bit easier ;) [01:08] kip: what I meant by "output" was every time you entered something in the terminal "ex: sudo apt-key adv --keyserver keys.gnupg.net --recv-keys 5CB26B26" we need the output of that command [01:08] I'm in Ubuntu 12.04, in KDE. An inch or two of the whole desktop disappears under the screen's left edge. What can I do about this? [01:08] kip: what you need to do is start from scratch, run ALL your commands in the same terminal, then pastebin the ENTIRE contents of that terminal [01:09] HoNgOuRu: give a sec, writting a script for you [01:09] zmurgy: one. this is not kubuntu. 2. this is not the 12.04 channel [01:09] DarwinSurvivor: did you see my imagepast? [01:09] The command that failed was listed. I will do again and capture everything. O.K. Thanks. May be awhile. It is on another computer. [01:10] awisepilot: sorry, I know very little about udev [01:11] I'm in Ubuntu 12.04, in KDE. An inch or two of the whole desktop disappears under the screen's left edge. What can I do about this? [01:11] kip: sometimes things that don't error out still have messages that can help find out what caused an error later [01:12] zymurgy: ask in #ubuntu+1 please [01:12] First time trying Ubuntu, cann't beleive it's has a bug on a sever install. [01:12] DarwinSurvivor, how is that script going ? [01:12] awisepilot: which release? [01:12] 11.10 [01:12] I'm about to blow it away and load SLES 11 [01:12] awisepilot: Precise is out in a matter of HOURS. Why not instal Precise?? It's also LTS so has a lot more life than Oneiric [01:13] Were can I find Precise [01:13] and what is it [01:13] ActionParsnip, because new versions of ubuntu are generally quite unstable? [01:13] I am new to Ubuntu [01:13] awisepilot: its the 12.04 release of ubuntu [01:13] myr: LTS releases are intentionally made as solid as possible from day 0 [01:13] HoNgOuRu: ok, unfortunately, your home folder contains *LOTS* of small files, so any information will help (was it in Documents/, what was the format of any line of the file ex: ###-###-#### or ### ### ####) [01:14] awisepilot: Oneiric has 18 months of support, Precise has 5 years [01:14] nice [01:14] where can I find it [01:14] awisepilot: ubuntu.com [01:14] I got to get this server running [01:14] on something [01:14] HoNgOuRu: "find ~ -size -b50" and tell me how much gets printed [01:15] ActionParsnip, I have been using ubuntu since Breezy, and I have not found LTS releases to be any more stable upon initial release [01:15] HoNgOuRu: you will probably get a LOT of stuff from .mozilla/ so add " | grep -v mozilla" after [01:15] 10.04 is rock solid [01:15] zymurgy: maybe setting in monitor button [01:16] does 10.04 come with Python and Twisted [01:16] myr: i'd still go for it in a server install as a clean install personally. Precise has been fine here since Alpha2, been using Ubuntu since Gutsy, Linux in various flavours for much longer [01:17] ActionParsnip, lit in a couple of hours there is a new version [01:17] Don't think there IS a "monitor button". This exact same setup worked perfectly under debian. [01:17] hi, ubuntu 12.04 lts released or not.... [01:17] its actually april 26 in samoa right now [01:17] not [01:17] HoNgOuRu: http://www.learnosity.com/techblog/index.cfm/2010/5/10/Howto-find-files-newer-than-a-specific-date-using-command-line [01:18] the website still shows 11'10 as current [01:18] DarwinSurvivor, that command should be writen -size 50b [01:18] HoNgOuRu: sorry, that was a reference for myself [01:18] HoNgOuRu: what was the date it was made? [01:19] Grr, this one is really getting, I thought I had the perfect install, untill - [01:19] uBUxUBu: yes, thats because its still the latest stable :) [01:19] DarwinSurvivor, dont know if "made" or modified [01:20] It looks like I have partial (uncomplete installs of Java6 JRE,and Java 7 JDK) and I can not remove them, so I am going to reinstall Lubuntu and start from scratch again. And log everything. [01:20] does anyone know, why does the new-mail envelope in unity flips to "no mail", right after the first email is cheked, even if there are tem more new emails left ? [01:20] 2012-14-04 [01:20] hmm so you mean they wont even shiw it current tomorrow? [01:20] Let me try 10.04 LTS there are issues with 11.10 I just found in the forums with a race condition during boot in the udev. [01:20] uBUxUBu: yes, when iots released, the site will be updated.. [01:20] HoNgOuRu: you mean 2012-04-14? [01:21] but it is 2pm april 26 in samoa [01:21] yes [01:21] DarwinSurvivor, between 20:00 and 22:00 [01:21] !isitout | uBUxUBu [01:21] uBUxUBu: Nope! Ubuntu 12.04 is scheduled for release sometime on April 26th. You can party in #ubuntu-release-party while you're waiting! [01:21] guess they fell behind [01:21] HoNgOuRu: NOW we're getting specific! [01:21] uBUxUBu, so? it'll be out when it's out. no need to repeat here [01:22] don't give me hope... [01:22] uBUxUBu: are you running the beta release already? [01:22] Ill buy it... [01:22] no [01:22] im using 11.10 [01:22] uBUxUBu: if you install the beta or daily, you will upgrade seamlessly into the release [01:22] no input on the new-mail envelope ? [01:22] uBUxUBu, lets stick to ubuntu support. #ubuntu-release-party for the countdown NOT here [01:22] DarwinSurvivor, it was a text file, probably without the .txt extension [01:23] If I start fresh with 10.04 when 12 release I will be able to upgrade without going to 11.10 correct? [01:23] HoNgOuRu: http://paste.ubuntu.com/946630/ [01:23] awisepilot, yes [01:23] awisepilot, 10.04 does not go to 11.10 directly [01:23] but it will go to 12 ??? [01:24] HoNgOuRu: oops, sorry, just a sec [01:24] awisepilot, it's 10.04 to 12.04 one step [01:24] awisepilot, yes [01:24] cool [01:24] awisepilot: I had this discussion here last week and found out you can go LTS release to LTS release [01:24] hitting the download button now!! for 10.04 lts [01:24] wow can watch tv (kaffiene) through ssh x11 forward :) [01:25] so, installing the beta and installing the final lts are the same ActionParsnip ? [01:25] Thanks for the solid solution myr [01:25] Hello all [01:26] HoNgOuRu: sorry, fixed: http://paste.ubuntu.com/946633/ [01:26] I have one problem need to ask [01:26] awisepilot, no problem. Hope it goes well for you. [01:26] !final | uBUxUBu yes [01:26] uBUxUBu yes: If you install a development version of Ubuntu Precise and keep up with package updates, then you will be upgraded to the official release of 12.04 when it comes out. To make sure, type « sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get dist-upgrade » in a terminal. Discussion and support in #ubuntu+1. [01:26] I [01:27] HoNgOuRu: depending on how many files are in your home directory, it may take a while to run [01:28] yeah...its looking [01:28] good morning! [01:28] uBUxUBu: you will upgrade seamlessly [01:29] DarwinSurvivor, I copied the whole home directory yesterday, would that be a problem ? [01:29] good evening ! [01:29] hmmm, but i prefer clean install [01:29] since it is this close [01:29] I just went to the web site and its says 12.04 LTS is ready for download [01:29] omg [01:30] I have 8 user in ubuntu and each user are with disk quota and seprate files and each user have torrend clent,ftp,http explorer, rapid leech and many other stuff and I want to limit the bandwidth/user like each user can use 1tb bandwidth not more then that but i dont want to limit speeds but just bandwidth [01:30] its here [01:30] awisepilot, its not [01:30] uBUxUBu, stop that. it's not [01:30] Ok does anyone of a Sound fix for ubuntu [01:30] i'm stuck on this rsyslog issue… it looks like rsyslog starts up, massively starts taking up memory and cpu, and eventually crashes.. [01:31] I had the fix but I can't get it to work anymore [01:31] ' 6537 syslog 20 0 4020m 3.4g 732 S 75.6 91.5 1:05.17 rsyslogd' … [01:31] HoNgOuRu: HoNgOuRu nope, it's searching by modification time. Unless you are searching inside the backup there should be no issue [01:31] Testing, testing Ubuntu 12.04 LTS is in final beta now. Download it today is not what we are looking for? [01:32] DarwinSurvivor, no, Im searching inside the home directory [01:32] DarwinSurvivor, it has to work [01:32] awisepilot, i thought you meant it said it is out of beta [01:32] awisepilot, beta is not final. you will know when it is released. [01:32] -size 50b means smaller than 50B ? [01:32] No, sorry for the false alarm [01:32] it has said beta on there for awhile now [01:32] HoNgOuRu: if this doesn't work we can also try using grep to search for a pattern matching the numbers, but that will be SLOWWWWW [01:32] I thought that is what you wanted me to download [01:32] uBUxUBu, it's not, stop speculating on it here [01:32] HoNgOuRu: yes [01:33] all right. [01:33] no luck! [01:33] finished [01:33] HoNgOuRu: wait, was it three numbers that make a phone number, or 3 phone numbers? [01:33] 3 numbers [01:34] HoNgOuRu: do you remember the exact format of the file (replace numbers with #'s)? [01:34] Dang another 27 minute download ...uggg [01:34] mmm... not sure [01:35] awisepilot, torrents are generally faster... [01:35] ####3## could help ? between spaces [01:36] time to go sleep. i will download it tomorow. bb all [01:37] HoNgOuRu: what does "du -h --max-depth=0 ~" report? [01:38] 38G [01:39] HoNgOuRu: ouch. Ok can you create a pastebin and list *everything* you know about the file in hit. Make 2 lists. 1) things you know 2) things you suspect [01:40] HoNgOuRu: even lits things you know are false (ex: filename contains no numbers, underscores or uppercase characters) [01:40] Anybody please help me [01:40] SeedGame: what was your question? [01:40] I have 8 user in ubuntu and each user are with disk quota and seprate files and each user have torrend clent,ftp,http explorer, rapid leech and many other stuff and I want to limit the bandwidth/user like each user can use 1tb bandwidth not more then that but i dont want to limit speeds but just bandwidth [01:41] DarwinSurvivor, the command with the before and after is not finding anything, so I guess that it would not find it otherwise [01:41] damm, my conecsi is so bad [01:41] HoNgOuRu: yes, but we can make those more broad and try other things you know about the file [01:42] Ubuntu and other Debian-based distros are useless of Debian's indifferent hardware support. Byebye. [01:42] SeedGame: what do you want to happen when they run out? total cut off, limiting, close apps, etc? [01:42] Total cut off [01:43] SeedGame: are these local users or do they login remotely? [01:43] Local linux users [01:44] SeedGame: and how quickly do they need to be cut off? instantly, or would a check every night be enough? [01:44] Instantly [01:45] SeedGame: checking once every few minutes wouldn't work either? [01:46] WOOOOOW !!!!!!!!! DARWIN !!!! [01:46] awesome [01:46] found !!!! [01:46] HoNgOuRu: what? [01:46] HoNgOuRu: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation. [01:46] HoNgOuRu: what did you do? [01:46] Darwin, it could work for me [01:46] lol floodbot [01:46] what time is 12.04 expected? [01:46] took out the -size 50b [01:46] !outyet | X-tonic [01:46] X-tonic: Nope! Ubuntu 12.04 is scheduled for release sometime on April 26th. You can party in #ubuntu-release-party while you're waiting! [01:46] X-tonic, no set time [01:47] HoNgOuRu: ah, must have contained more than 3 numbers then [01:47] and then searched the names of the list, it was less than 40 lines [01:47] yes [01:47] HoNgOuRu: congratulations [01:47] I remembered 3 out of 6 [01:47] HoNgOuRu: ah, 6 would have put it just over 50b :P [01:47] it is 8 bytes long [01:48] DarwinSurvivor, I love linux! [01:48] HoNgOuRu: which would be 64b (8*8=64) ! [01:48] lets see [01:49] HoNgOuRu: adjust slightly for HDD sector sizes of course [01:49] nope, not working even with 200b [01:49] oh [01:49] What is the mechanism a program uses to notify the unity bar to highlight its icon? [01:49] that could be [01:49] bazhang: but i remember some previous release having set times, like 10.10 came on 10:10:10, and on came at 10AM PSD [01:49] SeedGame: there are some monitoring utilities listed on http://www.ubuntugeek.com/bandwidth-monitoring-tools-for-linux.html but I'm not sure if any will monitor per user [01:49] !party | X-tonic [01:49] X-tonic: Please remember that #ubuntu, #kubuntu, #xubuntu, and #edubuntu are support channels. To countdown to !Precise release and then party once it happens, join #ubuntu-release-party - For in-person parties, see http://loco.ubuntu.com/events/global/1598/detail/ [01:50] SeedGame: what is the use case here? There may be other ways of doing this [01:50] X-tonic, just that ONE time. [01:50] grr.. cant figure out wtf is wrong with rsyslog.. [01:50] right.. [01:50] DarwinSurvivor, thank u a lot. [01:50] Huh? [01:51] HoNgOuRu: no problem [01:51] !PPA [01:51] A Personal Package Archive (PPA) can provide alternate software not normally available in the offical Ubuntu repositories - Looking for a PPA? See https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+ppas - WARNING: PPAs are unsupported third-party packages, and you use them at your own risk. See also !addppa and !ppa-purge [01:51] got to go... see you pal! [01:51] SeedGame: is this a family computer with a limited ISP connection, a server for friends, etc? [01:51] HoNgOuRu: bye [01:51] * DarwinSurvivor wonders if the phone number was for a date....... [01:51] A server for friends. [01:52] SeedGame: so they are *not* local users then! [01:52] Umm [01:52] Thanks [01:52] SeedGame: sorry, should have been more specific. By local user I meant "user that has physical access and uses the keyboard" [01:52] X-tonic: 10.10 wasn't released at 10:10am/pm either, it was out before that. I organized a release party at 10:10AM on 10.10.10 - and it was already out ;) which is a lot earlier then normal (i think they must have had it ready the night before for that release) [01:53] I got it Drawin [01:54] Drawin, any way exist to do that? [01:55] SeedGame: from what I can see the best/easiest way would be to have each user use a virtual network interface, then use vnstat to monitor how much has gone through each interface [01:55] Ah okay [01:56] halloooo [01:56] !ot [01:56] #ubuntu is the Ubuntu support channel, for all Ubuntu-related support questions. Please use #ubuntu-offtopic for other topics (though our !guidelines apply there too). Thanks! [01:57] SeedGame: #networking can probably help you more than we can, that's their specialty [01:57] SeedGame: you may need to set up a proxy or something, but you could probably run that off the same machine [01:58] hello VTperser welcome to #ubuntu, if you have a question please post it now [01:59] sup [01:59] majnoon: chetori [01:59] chetori ?? [02:00] majnoon: khoobam [02:00] hellooooooooo [02:00] VTperser, ubuntu support question? [02:00] hi [02:00] ikt: hello [02:01] backtrack??? [02:01] * ikt sits and waits for 12.04 to be released [02:01] Since /etc/firefox/profile is gone, is there any way to define default bookmarks for new accounts other than manually editing /usr/lib/firefox-/omni.ja ? [02:01] !backtrack | phame [02:01] phame: There are some Ubuntu derivatives that we cannot provide support for due to repository and software changes. Please consult their websites for more information. Examples: gNewSense (support in #gnewsense), Linux Mint (see !mint), LinuxMCE (support in #linuxmce), CrunchBang (support in #crunchbang), BackTrack (support in #backtrack-linux), Ultimate Edition [02:02] !party | ikt [02:02] ikt: Please remember that #ubuntu, #kubuntu, #xubuntu, and #edubuntu are support channels. To countdown to !Precise release and then party once it happens, join #ubuntu-release-party - For in-person parties, see http://loco.ubuntu.com/events/global/1598/detail/ [02:02] ikt: the beta runs pretty well for me [02:02] DarwinSurvivor, I notice you're not in the party room :P [02:03] violinappren, I've been running since alpha, really really stable, like it a lot [02:04] we are legions [02:04] ikt: that's because I'm here to support people [02:04] we are anonymous! [02:04] phame, wrong channel [02:04] we are not interested [02:04] ikt: I'm actually chatting on an arch laptop ssh'd to a freebsd box running irssi :P [02:05] phame: we are ubuntu support channel :) [02:05] where is the ubuntu release party channel? [02:05] !party | sanduz2 [02:05] sanduz2: Please remember that #ubuntu, #kubuntu, #xubuntu, and #edubuntu are support channels. To countdown to !Precise release and then party once it happens, join #ubuntu-release-party - For in-person parties, see http://loco.ubuntu.com/events/global/1598/detail/ [02:05] thanks [02:06] ikt: I have a fedora desktop on the other side of the room. but all the netbooks are on ubuntu === Tasmania is now known as USA === USA is now known as Indonesia === Indonesia is now known as China === China is now known as Tasmania [02:08] !nick | Tasmania [02:08] Tasmania: Your nick is how people know you on IRC. Please don't change your nicknames too often (use /nick newnick), or it creates a lot of confusion. You should also !register your nick with freenode. [02:08] So are the 12.04 torrents up all versions for capture and seeding? [02:09] Fyodorovna, final? no [02:09] when officially released ubuntu 12.04 ? [02:09] XDESIGN, no set time [02:09] when it is ready [02:09] bazhang, cool thanks I try to add to the seed at release. [02:09] it's 2012... and there is still no proper support for ALPS trackpads in the kernel yet! woohoo! [02:09] ok [02:09] 10x [02:10] Hey guys [02:10] hello ericluwolf [02:11] hello, hello gentlemans and gentle womans [02:11] :P [02:14] hey guys - im trying to copy the functionality of textmate on ubuntu with gedit [02:14] i found this article http://blog.sudobits.com/2011/04/02/textmate-for-ubuntu-linux/ [02:15] im stuck on the last bit getting the plugin into the correct /usr folder because i have permission restrictions - can anyone help me figure this out? [02:15] hey for some reason the speakers of my laptop are not working... if don't plug headphones Ihave no sound, what the reason could be? [02:15] nontechnical: sudo? [02:16] !sound | netzsooc [02:16] netzsooc: If you're having problems with sound, click the Volume applet, then Sound Preferences, and check your Volume, Hardware, Input, and Output settings. If that fails, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Sound - https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SoundTroubleshooting - http://alsa.opensrc.org/DmixPlugin - For playing audio files, see !players and !mp3. [02:16] :) [02:16] netzsooc: can you post a screenshot of your audio mixer levels? [02:17] i understand in theory, can you guide me through it? please! [02:17] nontechnical: did you extract the files of the plugin? [02:18] yes, they are on my desktop [02:18] nontechnical: (perhaps saying the following to this nic is silly) i have no idea what textmate is or what you are trying to duplicate. but i'd like to suggest, in the long run, you might do well to learn emacs or vi(m). not for today i understand. [02:18] i did this (when not in sudo) gksu gedit_classbrowser-0.2.1 ~/usr/share/gedit/plugins [02:19] nontechnical: um, I highly doubt ~/usr/share/gedit even exist, you probably want /usr/share/gedit/plugins (without the ~) [02:19] nontechnical: should be: sudo cp -R instead of gksu [02:19] thanks I've read a little on it [02:19] :) [02:20] what does the -R do? [02:20] nontechnical: recursive [02:20] nontechnical: same as -r [02:20] ill look it up ;-) [02:20] DarwinSurvivor: nontechnical: it's /usr/lib/gedit/plugins/ [02:20] violinappren: that sounds like it [02:21] ./ignore juancarlospaco ^all [02:21] ups [02:21] nontechnical: i second the vim/emacs suggestion [02:21] juancarlospaco, please stop that [02:21] sorry [02:22] i did this: sudo cp -R gedit_classbrowser-0.2.1 ~/usr/lib/gedit/plugins [02:23] nontechnical: there should be no ~ [02:23] ~ means your home directory [02:23] Gimp 2.8 is pure Win [02:23] O+o [02:23] i got this back: cp: cannot stat `gedit_classbrowser-0.2.1': No such file or directory [02:23] nontechnical, are you in ~/Desktop ? [02:24] nontechnical: if you extracted it on your desktop (not the home directory) it will be under ~/Desktop [02:24] Is there an ubuntu release party channel like last time? [02:24] Mneumonic, yes [02:24] nontechnical: so Desktop/gedit_... [02:24] !party > Mneumonic [02:24] Mneumonic, please see my private message [02:24] Mneumonic: #ubuntu-release-party [02:24] !ot | juancarlospaco [02:24] juancarlospaco: #ubuntu is the Ubuntu support channel, for all Ubuntu-related support questions. Please use #ubuntu-offtopic for other topics (though our !guidelines apply there too). Thanks! [02:24] yeah i guess i was in home....! [02:25] Hi, how do i open a lib.a file.. I just want to see whats inside.. what app in ubuntu can do that [02:26] if i get no error message does it mean it worked? [02:26] ill go check.. [02:26] sorry. [02:26] Ububegin: it's a static native code library (as opposed to a dynamic one, .so) [02:27] nontechnical: probably, yeah [02:27] Can Ubuntu run on 512mb ram? [02:28] Ububegin: basically, it will resemble the inside of an executable file (in fact, multiple .a files are combined to create an executable). [02:28] Ububegin: ar -t lib.a [02:28] ccsabathia, I would try lubuntu [02:28] ccsabathia: depends what you want to run on it [02:28] ccsabathia: I've seen firefox ALONE use that much... [02:28] Just Firefox and OpenOffice [02:28] It's got a dual 933 MHz p3 [02:29] ccsabathia: no distro will run both firefox and openoffice on 512MB without going slow, those applications alone use that much :( [02:29] !requirements | ccsabathia they recommend 1GB [02:29] ccsabathia: I would recommend using lighter alternatives, though they will still run [02:29] sup all [02:29] Ok I will try lubumtu then [02:30] violinappren: thanks.. how about a .so file [02:31] join "ubuntu-release-party" to talk about the 12.04 release [02:31] Ububegin: readelf [02:31] i have a newb question for anyone who knows their stuff... how can i upgrade to 12.04? [02:32] user: 1) wait for it to be released 2) use update manager [02:32] user, from what version [02:32] 11.10 [02:32] tried update manager but does not give me the option [02:33] user, it's not released yet, thats why [02:33] user: when it is released it will be an option [02:33] !outyet | user [02:33] user: Nope! Ubuntu 12.04 is scheduled for release sometime on April 26th. You can party in #ubuntu-release-party while you're waiting! [02:34] lol k i can wait a few hours thanks [02:34] easiest to think of it as out on 27th, that way all time zones are accomodated [02:34] user if you click alt+f2 [02:35] and type update-manager -d [02:35] roguetech: click alt+f2? [02:35] roguetech: that will need sudo too [02:35] it i will give u the option [02:35] ActionParsnip: you don't use your mouse to type on your keyboard? [02:35] i thought that's how you were supposed to do it [02:35] does ubuntu not come with a screensaver installed anymore? [02:35] SmileyChris: maybe its what the cool kids do these days...who understands those kids [02:35] Anyone, I have a /home backup done via deja on 10.10. Another laptop has been prepared with 11.10. Attempt to do a full restore using deja fails on account of deja asking for Encryption password. I did not write the backup with encryption, so I don't understand why it wants a password. How do I restore? [02:36] godmachine: http://www.wmlcloud.com/linux/how-to-activate-screen-saver-in-ubuntu-11-10-oneiric-ocelot/ [02:36] use your user paw [02:36] not click press alt+f2 :-) [02:36] ActionParsnip, was a simple yes or no question :P [02:36] ty roguetech... i was missing the space before -d lol [02:36] godmachine: yes it does, i just don't think it has animations yet (see #gnome to ask about the screensaver). If you want animations, try xscreensaver [02:36] ActionParsnip, was just wondering if it was installed or if it wasn't showing up in unity [02:37] wat time is the release tomorrow? [02:37] schindler, no set time [02:37] !outyet | schindler [02:37] schindler: Nope! Ubuntu 12.04 is scheduled for release sometime on April 26th. You can party in #ubuntu-release-party while you're waiting! [02:37] godmachine: not by default, but its easy to setup === zaid is now known as pakattack [02:38] thanks ActionParsnip [02:39] hi guys, is there a way to tell ubuntu to go to root of the hard drive when i do ssh in or sftp? [02:39] current it automatic go to my home directory [02:39] login as root [02:39] what about notification icons. does xchat not fit in the panel tray in unity? i notice the notifications work on the launcher, but i'd rather see the X icon up by the clock if at all possible [02:39] i want it to automatic to go to / [02:39] phong_ set your home to / if that is really what you want. [02:39] how? [02:39] phong_: could make a new user and add: cd / to the bottom of ~/.bashrc [02:39] phong_: you can also add "cd /" to your .bashrc [02:40] phong_: that won't affect scp though [02:40] where is that file? [02:40] schindler: logging in as root is not only not recommended, it willl default to /root (root's home) [02:40] phong_ go with DarwinSurvivor's suggestion [02:40] phong_: ~/.bashrc [02:40] phong_ in ~ [02:40] ok [02:40] thanks brb let me do that [02:41] Hey [02:41] Just checking if I manage to set this up..? Do you guys copy? [02:41] wats the diff between x and wayland? [02:41] Guest__, it has alot of text in it [02:41] where about to add it? [02:41] skyistohigh, yes [02:41] end of the file? [02:41] phong_ anywhere [02:41] ok thanks [02:41] schindler: offtopic and it's a long story [02:41] pavucontrol connection to pulse audio failed. what do I need to look for? [02:41] phong_ end would be a good idea [02:42] phong_: I would *not* set your home folder to / as that will prevent any utilities from loading settings, etc (ex: .vimrc would have to be in /) [02:42] schindler, thats quite extensive, please check the web [02:42] rinzler: alt + f2, pulseaudio, enter and try again ? [02:42] phong_: setting in .bashrc is *definitely* a lot safer [02:42] Installed BT on my old computer, hard to find the needed drivers and such.. I'm freaked out.. [02:42] DarwinSurvivor, reason is that when i use Iphone 4 , FTP2go which doesn't has the go to parent folder [02:43] skyistohigh, bt is not supported here [02:43] !backtrack > skyistohigh [02:43] skyistohigh, please see my private message === miguel is now known as Guest68167 [02:43] DarwinSurvivor, i'm lost [02:43] DarwinSurvivor, just tell me where to edit the file then [02:43] didn't u tell me to edit ~/.bashrc ? [02:43] phong_: hold on, you may have a different issue there [02:43] phong_: nano ~/.bashrc [02:43] isn't it the same file? [02:44] How do I check my private msges? [02:44] phong_: what does ftp have to do with ssh...? [02:44] phong_: that will NOT change your home, will just automatically change directory after you login [02:44] skyistohigh, /join #backtrack-linux [02:44] There we go, o/ [02:44] violinappren, exactly what i want to do [02:44] because iphone app..ftp2go doesn't have 'go to parent' [02:44] it start with 'home' folder [02:45] phong_: and what does ftp2go do? [02:45] how do I set pulseaudio back to default configuration? [02:45] it is sftp [02:45] phong_: it will only be useful you login to an interactive shell, and will not be effective while using an SFTP client [02:45] hard for me to explain, do u ever use AndFTP for android? [02:45] rinzler: check in "Startup Applications" in settings if it's set to start on login [02:46] phong_: why not create a symlink to / "ln -s / ~/root" then go into that folder using ftp2go? [02:46] u can always go to parent folder [02:46] Hi guys, using 12.04 lts beta, and my media keys work immediatly after login, however it appears when unity loads aka "dock" they stop. is there a way around/fix? [02:46] and ftp2go for iphone doesn't have a link go to parent [02:46] so after i sftp in ,, it begin with my home directory [02:47] DarwinSurvivor, how to do it? [02:47] ? [02:47] phong_: you should also be able to set the start folder in ftp2go to / instead of ~/ (ex: sftp://user@ip://) [02:47] phong_: and people are just supposed to .. go down ? you should look close in that app [02:47] ah [02:47] phong_: check the settings for that connection, there should be a default folder override of some kind [02:47] DarwinSurvivor, let me try with ur suggestion [02:47] brb [02:48] Does anyone here manage to play minecraft on linux? [02:48] violinappren: not seeing it in the settings menu, do you know the name of it to launch from terminal? [02:48] rule #1 of linux support: "Find the ROOT issue" :P [02:48] skyistohigh, on backtrack? [02:48] DarwinSurvivor, actually the program for iphone is 'FTP On The Go' [02:48] ;) [02:48] rinzler: look for "startup" in the dash? [02:48] No, on ubuntu.. [02:48] violinappren: dash? [02:49] skyistohigh, what version of ubuntu are you on [02:49] When you change your wallpaper in precise the color of unity also changes with it...is there anyway to override this and assign one color at all times? [02:49] rinzler: unity search box [02:49] error .....i did this: myipaddress:port/ [02:49] phong_: what protocol is it using? Unless you installed an ftp server, it's using something else (ex: sftp, scp, ssh, etc) === nphase_ is now known as nphase [02:49] it gives : Error openning directory [02:49] violinappren: ahh, well I'm using xfce, so that may throw a kink in things if you din't know that :P [02:49] SFTP [02:49] The newest [02:49] i have port 22 for sftp [02:50] rinzler: i use it too. cheers! [02:50] violinappren: LOADS better than unity [02:50] phong_: ok, so that's basically interactive scp (which does use ssh). If your app doesn't support changing the "root" directory, just create a symlink on your ubuntu box and go into that [02:50] skyistohigh, what does lsb_release -a return in the terminal pastebin it [02:50] yeap [02:50] 11.10 to be exact.. [02:50] ex: "ln -s / ~/root" will make "~/root" the same as "/" [02:51] !paste | skyistohigh [02:51] skyistohigh: For posting multi-line texts into the channel, please use http://paste.ubuntu.com | To post !screenshots use http://imagebin.org/?page=add | !pastebinit to paste directly from command line | Make sure you give us the URL for your paste - see also the channel topic. [02:51] well show me how to do it in ubuntu [02:51] rinzler: check if you have an entry for pulse in ~/.config/autostart .. if so, rm it [02:51] then you can just go into "~root/" and work from there :D [02:51] the ftp on the go dont' support root changing [02:51] it will go to my home lol [02:51] thans for your help, the files copied but it doesnt seem to be working [02:51] i can't go back to root ;) [02:51] phong_: log into your ubuntu box and type "ln -s / ~/root" [02:51] nothing allow me to do that....but AndFTP will do it ;) on android phone [02:51] then you can just go into "~/root/" and work from there :D (sorry for typo in last version) [02:51] nontechnical: the plugin may be older/incompatible with current version of gedit [02:52] DarwinSurvivor, do i have to do that everytime ? [02:52] yeah, thanks anyway - appreciate the help [02:52] nontechnical: np [02:52] phong_: you only have to run "ln" once (that creates a symlink, sort of like a shortcut), then each time you connect just go into the "root" folder [02:53] !symlink | phong_ [02:53] phong_: The linux terminal or command-line interface is very powerful. Open a terminal via Applications -> Accessories -> Terminal (Gnome), K-menu -> System -> Konsole (KDE), or Menu -> Accessories -> LXTerminal (LXDE). Guide: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UsingTheTerminal [02:53] darn, hopped that would be more specific :( [02:53] DarwinSurvivor, my god [02:53] darm u [02:53] so good [02:53] oh my god, u're super good [02:54] i salute you! [02:54] all i do is click root folder [02:54] and it go to root ;) [02:54] phong_: you're welcome [02:54] violinappren: only entry in that folder is "xfce4-settings-helper-autostart.desktop" [02:54] how did u figure that out? [02:54] DarwinSurvivor, what is pass mode and active mode meant? [02:54] phong_: now you know why I always find the original problem when someone asks a weird question, makes the solution WAY simpler :P [02:55] rinzler: what did you do that messed up pulse? edited any conf files? [02:55] rinzler: it might have just crashed [02:55] phong_: I use symlinks on a regular basis, they are a very common tool on the command line [02:55] What? [02:56] phong_: passive mode and active mode only apply to FTP and changes the way it handles ports, since you are using sftp (which uses ssh instead of ftp), it does not apply [02:56] oh [02:56] Gotta grab a bottle of coke [02:56] Distributor ID: Ubuntu [02:56] Description: Ubuntu 11.10 [02:56] Release: 11.10 [02:56] Codename: oneiric [02:57] ok if i want to creat a link to a folder start /mnt/blabla and have a folder link to it ? [02:58] DarwinSurvivor, let say i want to access: /mnt/blabla when i sftp to my home, i want to ahve a folder name 'go_to_tomyblabla' [02:58] DarwinSurvivor, ? [02:58] ls -s /mnt/blabla /myownblabla ??? [02:58] phong_: ln -s target link_name [02:59] let me try ;) [02:59] phong_: ln, not ls, and remove the / in the second part [02:59] Hey when will the final ubuntu 12.04 64 bit server be available for download?? [02:59] oh [02:59] phong_: type in a terminal: man ln [02:59] ok thanks i got it [02:59] phong_: "ln -s /mnt/blabla myownblabla" [02:59] Does anyone know a command to get a overview over my installed graphic card? Like, what model it is? [02:59] perfect very clear now [02:59] indystorm, no set time [02:59] that will put "myownblabla" in the CURRENT directory. if you are not in your home folder change it to "~/myownblabla" [02:59] skyistohigh: sudo lshw -C display [02:59] skyistohigh, lspci then paste.ubuntu.com NOT here [03:00] ~ means /home/my_usermane [03:00] no set time? the launch was Thursday I thought?? [03:00] !pastebin | skyistohigh [03:00] skyistohigh: For posting multi-line texts into the channel, please use http://paste.ubuntu.com | To post !screenshots use http://imagebin.org/?page=add | !pastebinit to paste directly from command line | Make sure you give us the URL for your paste - see also the channel topic. [03:00] !party | indystorm [03:00] indystorm: Please remember that #ubuntu, #kubuntu, #xubuntu, and #edubuntu are support channels. To countdown to !Precise release and then party once it happens, join #ubuntu-release-party - For in-person parties, see http://loco.ubuntu.com/events/global/1598/detail/ [03:00] violinappren: well, I tried manually restarting is with the command that pavucontrol gave me, but it wouldn't work, so I thought setting the config files back to default from whatever happend to them, i might have a chance to fix it easly... [03:00] hey DarwinSurvivor thanks man and violinappren [03:00] Ah, thank you very much.. Exact the info I needed.. [03:00] so simple as it is ;) === pz is now known as darkanon [03:01] skyistohigh, pastbin it, not here [03:01] violinappren: it was working last boot... [03:01] Anyone know why my system suddenly reinstalled PulseAudio? I removed it, but now my volume control doesn't seem to work in mplayer (and maybe other stuff as well) [03:01] rinzler: yes what exactly did you change? [03:01] violinappren: I didn't change anything [03:02] rinzler: try logging out and in and see if it works [03:02] pastbin what? [03:02] violinappren: ok. brb, then... [03:03] skyistohigh, you wanted to know your video card... pastebin that info .. not into the channel [03:04] Hello guys... I'm facing two issues with my Oneiric... [03:04] 1 - Login keyring keeps continuously asking password to unlock keyring... anyidea why? Usually when I access some site with my password saved.... [03:04] 2. It also happens when I reconnect to my wireless, but sometimes not... sometimes it loads the saved password automaticaly.... any idea? [03:04] violinappren: "hello IT, Have you tried turning it off and on again?" *mumblemumble* [03:05] rinzler: so it works..? [03:05] rinzler: trust me, it works [03:06] violinappren: yep. thanks for putting up with me :P [03:06] rinzler: np :) [03:06] ActionParsnip: the next question asked is always "and are you sure it's plugged in?" [03:06] rodhash: are you SURE you are typing it in correctly? [03:06] rinzler: ActionParsnip: if you write thousands of lines of code, you will know why it works, heh! [03:06] rodhash: remember, use your KEYRING password, it's not necessarily the same as your login password [03:07] rodhash: also check caps-lock === darkanon is now known as waxgoblin [03:10] Yes... I'm sure the password is correct for keyring... [03:10] How can I manage its password? [03:10] Change it, etc? [03:10] rodhash: seahorse === Guest68167 is now known as Gibs-II [03:11] Okay, sorry for asking so much. But what is the command to run .run files ? [03:11] skyistohigh: is the file executable? [03:12] skyistohigh: chmod u+x file.run; ./file.run [03:12] No, it was not.. [03:12] and where did it come from? .run files are typically used to install binary drivers and apps and are *notorious* for F*($%ing up machines [03:12] Ok guys... thanks for the help!! [03:13] what is the channel name for release party? [03:13] skyistohigh, this is a jar? for minecraft? [03:13] how do I use midori browser with tor? [03:13] !party > lnxten [03:13] lnxten, please see my private message [03:14] No, I am trying to install my graphic driver.. Wich I got mailed from the support for linux.. I did what violin said, but then I got "ERROR: nvidia-installer must be run as root" [03:14] skyistohigh, thats not the way to install drivers for ubuntu [03:14] skyistohigh: then sudo ./file.run [03:15] su - [03:15] skyistohigh: look for "additional drivers" in the application list [03:15] Bennlucky7, no never that [03:15] This is a 6years old graphic card.. [03:15] Bennlucky7: su is not enabled by default on ubuntu [03:15] even older, it's from 2005 [03:15] skyistohigh: installing graphic drivers from a .run file is EXTREMELY dangerous. I have hose many machines doing that. Why not use the ones in the repository? [03:15] Bennlucky7: to get a root shell, use: sudo -i [03:16] !party [03:16] Please remember that #ubuntu, #kubuntu, #xubuntu, and #edubuntu are support channels. To countdown to !Precise release and then party once it happens, join #ubuntu-release-party - For in-person parties, see http://loco.ubuntu.com/events/global/1598/detail/ [03:16] skyistohigh: have you *tried* in the drivers in the repositories? [03:16] is threa diffrent? [03:16] Bennlucky7, yes. use sudo [03:16] !sudo | Bennlucky7 [03:16] Bennlucky7: sudo is a command to run command-line programs with superuser privileges ("root") (also see !cli). Look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RootSudo for more information. For graphical applications see !gksu (GNOME, Xfce), or !kdesudo (KDE). If you're unable to execute commands with sudo see: http://www.psychocats.net/ubuntu/fixsudo [03:16] yes [03:17] My gameboy can run smoother.. === VGoff is now known as VGoff_afk === philo is now known as philo234 [03:18] skyistohigh: what video card do you have [03:19] is the pangolin coming out tomorrow? [03:19] i can guarantee you that any .run driver that is any good is already available in the repositories. i can also guarantee that if the driver does not work (which it probably won't), you will NOT be able to remove it OR replace it with a new one [03:20] 7300le I believe it is.. [03:20] !nvidia | skyistohigh [03:20] skyistohigh: For Ati/NVidia/Matrox video cards, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/VideoDriverHowto [03:21] Boohbah: it should be out in the next 21 hours [03:21] skyistohigh: if those instructions don't work, then come back and we'll see what else can be done. [03:21] hi guys , i am need to download some files("ofline" using wget) but i know the precise url , just the base and the file... for example : wget base/some/variable/unknow/dir/filename.etx [03:21] Boohbah: #ubuntu-release-party [03:21] i dont know * [03:22] hi guys , i need to download some files("ofline" using wget) but i dont know the precise url , just the base and the file... for example : wget base/some/variable/unknow/dir/filename.etx , is there a wget options for that case ? [03:22] chelz: thanks :) [03:22] philo456: how can you download things while offline? [03:23] DarwinSurvivor: sneakernet [03:23] DarwinSurvivor: offline is not the good word i meant in batch mode === joshua is now known as Guest47627 [03:24] philo456: http://www.linuxquestions.org/questions/linux-networking-3/use-wget-to-download-multiple-files-with-wildcards-603486/ [03:24] philo456: see the -A option in wget's manpage [03:25] skyistohigh: if those instructions don't work, please try the first solution on http://askubuntu.com/questions/38853/is-the-nvidia-geforce-7300-le-blacklisted [03:26] what is pangolin? [03:26] rbik: the user or the release? [03:26] rbik: A pangolin scaly anteater, or trenggiling, is a mammal of the order Pholidota. [03:26] Pangolins, often called “scaly anteaters,” are covered in tough, overlapping scales. These burrowing mammals eat ants and termites using an extraordinarily ... [03:26] thanks chelz Boohbah [03:27] the release [03:27] lol, totally misunderstood the question :P [03:27] 12.04, the newest LTS release [03:27] rbik: http://blogs.scientificamerican.com/extinction-countdown/files/2012/02/pangolin.jpg [03:27] server and desktop packages in "main" are supported for 5 years [03:27] 2017! [03:27] i'm not updating until i'm a warlord [03:27] blacklisted :O [03:28] chelz: the -A option only allow me to specify suffix or pattern ,... i have a liste of name [03:28] philo456: you can put all those in comma-separated [03:29] wget -A "green,blue,brown" [03:30] chelz: the doc says if i do so it will be interpreted as file extensions [03:30] skyistohigh: if you got any errors, please pastebin what you ran as well as the output you got (copy/paste the entire terminal session) [03:30] Unable to access Ubuntu software centre from icon on desktop . [03:31] philo456: my manpage says " Specify comma-separated lists of file name suffixes or patterns to accept or reject." [03:31] philo456: do them as patterns [03:31] Hi, I'm trying to get Conky to work on Xubuntu. I try to find the dir /usr/share/doc/conky/examples/, but the "examples" folder isn't there, and i need to edit the file .conkyrc. Any ideas? [03:32] kiama2005: are you fully updated? [03:32] hello [03:32] dcoy: I suggest you find sample files online and tweak [03:32] where can download ubuntu12.04 lts [03:32] ActionnParsnip yes [03:32] dcoy: the file will be ~/.conkyrc [03:33] chelz: a patern would be something as [name1 name2 name3 ] ? [03:33] chelz: a patern would be something as "[name1 name2 name3 ]" ? [03:33] That's the file I can't find. Do I just need to download that file somewhere online, create an "examples" folder myself, and go from there? [03:33] philo456: you gotta google that up [03:33] dcoy: http://conky.sourceforge.net/screenshots.html has screenshots with .conkyrc's given (link below each screenshot) [03:33] k thanks chelz [03:33] dcoy: yes you will need to find one online and drop it in the root of your home folder. Then run conky [03:34] sjd- u can in a few hours [03:34] Ah, okay. I appreciate it Action and Darwin. I will give it a try and see what happens. Thank you! === hemanth_ is now known as hemanth [03:34] dcoy: if you want to try different ones without constantly renaming you can run "conky -c name_of_conky_file" [03:34] Sounds good. I'll stay in here and ask if I need any help. Thank you [03:35] mamemame187 thank you [03:36] hi people :) [03:37] version 12.04 will be ready within next hours? [03:37] !outyet simtsit [03:37] !outyet | simtsit [03:37] simtsit: Nope! Ubuntu 12.04 is scheduled for release sometime on April 26th. You can party in #ubuntu-release-party while you're waiting! [03:37] Can anyone help me with some driver issues? [03:38] ApocGoD: drivers for what? [03:38] ApocGoD: more info [03:38] thnx DarwinSurvivor :) [03:38] DarwinSurvivor: you lost the award :) [03:38] Ubuntu 11.10 Gnome 3, drivers for a Dynex DX WC101 webcam. [03:38] celthunder: there's an award...? [03:39] DarwinSurvivor: yeah but you survived :) darwin awards go to the dead (i think) [03:39] unless i have the wrong awards [03:39] celthunder: oh, lol [03:39] Ubuntu 11.10 will not access Software Centre any ideas? [03:40] ApocGoD: does it show up in lspci / lsusb? [03:40] A Darwin award is for removing your self from the genepool in a very stupid way. [03:40] celthunder: no, that's mostly correct. You don't need to be dead, just unable to reproduce (neutred, etc counts as well) [03:40] lol [03:41] @celthunder, it shows up as Bus 001 Device 038: ID 05a9:8519 OmniVision Technologies, Inc. OV519 Webcam [03:41] kiama2005: ? [03:41] ApocGoD: what have you used to test it so far? (ex: cheese, vlc, etc) [03:42] gontlemen [03:42] @DarwinSurvivor, i've used Cheese, it says No device found [03:42] ApocGoD: does it show in cheese? [03:43] ApocGoD: can you pastebin the output of dmesg? [03:43] ActionParsnip, No, says No device found [03:43] DarwinSurvivor, Yes, one moment [03:43] Thanks celthunder not sure what your question is. [03:43] ApocGoD: http://forum.ubuntu-fr.org/viewtopic.php?id=88555 [03:44] DarwinSurvivor, http://pastebin.com/pjYZCY7q [03:44] ApocGoD: http://ubuntuforums.org/archive/index.php/t-1384517.html [03:44] ActionParsnip, reading now. [03:44] kiama2005: it doesnt access sw center as in? it doesnt start? [03:45] ApocGoD: all I did was us the 8 character hex ID you provided.... [03:46] Celthunder keep getting erroe sw centre not responding. [03:46] AGoodName: is this a built-in device or usb? [03:46] ActionParsnip, I tried searching for it in Google, kept getting no response. These pages aren't making much sense after translating to english. Checking now. [03:46] Darwin, if that is to me, it's USB [03:47] kiama2005: start it from a terminal any errors === enchilad1 is now known as enchilado [03:47] celthunder how still learning? [03:47] AGoodName: ApocGoD sorry, autocomplete fail :( [03:48] DarwinSurvivor, No worries, it's USB [03:49] brb [03:51] What is the channel for Ubuntu noob questions? [03:51] BlueClaw: this one or #ubuntu-beginners [03:52] but nobody really uses the other one [03:53] noob here is 1204 beta 2 stable [03:53] Darwin and Action, thank you. [03:53] back [03:54] john_2: its beta...so no?though i think someone said itll be released tomorrow [03:54] good morning, when is release of stable 12.04? [03:54] john_2 Matan[M]: there' === john_2 is now known as upinyon [03:55] 's a release party at #ubuntu-release-party [03:55] if you wanna check that out... [03:55] !outyet | Matan[M] [03:55] Matan[M]: Nope! Ubuntu 12.04 is scheduled for release sometime on April 26th. You can party in #ubuntu-release-party while you're waiting! [03:56] BlueClaw: did you have a question? === macmartine_ is now known as macmartine [03:57] anyone know if 12.04 is going to have the unified menus [03:57] Wb Darwin. [03:57] Any idea on myissue? [03:57] or strictly HUD [03:57] good night, can someone help me with gcc? === VGoff_afk is now known as VGoff [03:57] Does the CD version of Ubuntu 11.x include build-essentials and other build tools? I need to compile network drivers not available by default. :( === mj is now known as Guest43613 [03:58] I would help but I am on vicodin due to wisdom teeth removal and playing the end of HL1 [03:58] so my focus is a bit off [03:58] ( as well as linux-headers ) [04:00] I just installed a server, and when it got to the network setup, I didn't have a connection, so I choose to configure later. I now have a network connection, what do I need to do to make it connect (dhcp) and connect on subsequent reboots. [04:00] if anyone knows whether a. I can get the unified program menus working in 11.10 or whether they will keep them in 12.02 that would be appreciated [04:00] (this is ubuntu 11 server) [04:00] will it just be sudo eth(whatever) up? [04:00] dhclient eth0 [04:00] sudo !! [04:01] etc [04:01] ApocGoD: could you run dmesg, then unplug and replug the webcam, then run demsg again? [04:01] will that stick on reboots, z3r0d3rp? [04:01] DarwinSurvivor, Just a moment [04:01] then post both dmesg's so we can tell which part is related to the webcam [04:01] well you have to config your connection [04:01] a server should not be dhcp [04:01] you will need to forward ports etc [04:02] you should ifconfig it [04:02] then reserve it in your router [04:02] then forward for ssh apache etc [04:02] but to get it to work now [04:02] you can do sudo dhclient eth0 [04:03] hey all - if I'm installing ubuntu in Parallels 7 on mac, what is the proper image to download? [04:03] x86 or AMD64? (core 2 duo) [04:03] 64 [04:03] DarwinSurvivor, http://pastebin.com/SPDsX8hu [04:03] either [04:03] also I see listed an image that explicitly says "Mac" but I dont know if that applies when running in a VM [04:03] basically I suggest using 64 on a 64 bit processor [04:03] no it doesn't [04:04] ok that makes sense [04:04] a vm emulates a pc hardware [04:04] awesome... thanks! [04:04] the mac image is probably for PPC [04:04] it says AMD64 Mac [04:04] kdenlive does everything fine except for rendering when I make a title clip. It always fails to render. any suggestions? [04:04] would it make a difference if I was using it in KDE perhaps? [04:04] ok then it is made with driver support [04:04] http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/daily-live/current/ [04:05] for bare metal install === LukeNukem is now known as DarthVader [04:05] why wouldn't the driver support just be included...? [04:05] I would reccomend installing it in a partition with the mac image [04:05] i guess for size [04:05] that way you can fully utilize the system [04:05] vm's are ok but... [04:05] Hi there, I'm trying to solve a routing issue. Is there a way i can push a route to all my LAN clients? [04:05] z3r0d3rp: yeah... tried that, a TON [04:06] its definitely not stable [04:06] I have 10.10 running on my macbook g5 [04:06] yeah, I think after 11.04 support is crappy [04:06] or was it 10.04 [04:06] or at least not as solid [04:06] Can some one do me a favor and retrieve the build-essentials and linux-header packages for what ever kernel 11.x has? (I have no internet drivers) [04:06] z3r0d3rp: I give the server it's IP from my router (static DHCP), I just need to know if using dhclient will stick [04:06] also i would need to access the files read/write, and I would want to use Ubuntu as my main OS if I installed it [04:07] maccer google [04:07] z3r0d3rp: No seriously. [04:07] which means I would need to use fuse on osx... which isn't 100% safe [04:07] I'm on windows so... [04:07] Trel, you should configure it in ifconfig [04:07] and it will stick [04:08] I repeat... servers are not meant to use dhcp [04:08] z3r0d3rp: is there a basic tutorial, or is it ifconfig up, provided it's dhcp [04:08] man ifconfig [04:08] ^ [04:09] always step 1 [04:09] z3r0d3rp: this server is behind a router with static dhcp [04:09] ApocGoD: I'm not seeing any fatal errors, but there appears to be something ELSE on your system that ubuntu doesn't like... [04:09] dhcp is for easy configuration of client computers in SOHO or public networks [04:09] DarwinSurvivor, What would that be? Any idea? [04:09] does anyone have experience with dual booting Win7 and Ubuntu using UEFI? I've followed /community/UEFIBooting but my system is still booting straight into Windows [04:09] by definition it is not for servers [04:09] something in a usb port. is it a desktop or laptop? [04:09] z3r0d3rp: my current router setup will not allow something to connect if it's not assigned an IP via DHCP, hence, I need to use dhcp. [04:10] Desktop [04:10] The three things that are plugged in via usb are a mouse, keyboard and webcam. [04:10] Trel you can assign an ip in your router config outside of the dhcp pool [04:10] ApocGoD: ok, is there anything else connected to the usb ports? [04:10] I unplugged my SD cardreader to plug in the webcam. [04:10] or just reserve a dhcp address [04:11] and use ifconfig to perm assign it [04:11] or assign it by mac [04:11] Trel: most routers start dhcp at xxx.xxx.x.100 or something and have their own ip as .1 or .2 so anything from .3 to .99 should be available for static IP's [04:11] on the router [04:11] z3r0d3rp, I don't want to argue my network setup. I can do static dhcp, but I cannot allow any machine to connect unless it's IP is assigned via DHCP [04:11] yeah that is how the router reserves it [04:11] ApocGoD: anything else (keyboard, mouse, printer, scanner, camera, external usb, flash drive, etc)? [04:12] Trel that makes no sense [04:12] no arguing... just use your network in the way described, and it will work [04:12] use dhclient for now [04:12] then google ifconfig [04:12] I won't walk you through it [04:12] DarwinSurvivor, keyboard, mouse, webcam at the moment. I unplugged my SD cardreader to plug in the webcam [04:12] z3r0d3rp: I will do so, and for what it's worth, it's due to the way this network is setup by the owner. I can't argue with him, so I can only do what he lets me. [04:13] ok that makes sense [04:13] usually routers keep the dhcp lease anyway [04:13] Does anyone know what time today ubuntu 12.04 will be released [04:13] but why you are using a server inside someone else's network is problematic [04:13] Trel: you could try to find an open IP and use DHCP with manual IP [04:13] you will not be able to forward ports [04:14] ok, can you run "watch 'dmesg | tail' " and then unplug ALL usb device and see if you still keep getting new usb errors? if you get none, start plugging stuff in 1 at a time to see if any other devices are causing errors. that will help us read your dmesg more clearly [04:14] ok [04:14] use dhcp first... then assign the ip it gives you as static [04:14] the router will almost certainly keep the lease as long as the machine is up and doesn't go off for a long time [04:14] z3r0d3rp, it's a minecraft server for use on an intranet. mdel, if the machine does not obtain it's IP via DHCP, it will be blocked, so once I switch to static, I'll get blocked when it tries to connect next. [04:15] no it won't [04:15] you aren't going to be able to host minecraft [04:15] you cant open ports [04:15] fail [04:15] he manually blocks it [04:15] he said it's on a lan [04:15] Why would he need ports open on a lan [04:15] ah, my bad [04:15] It's a company minecraft server. [04:15] missed that cause webchat suckkkks [04:15] kdenlive does everything fine except for rendering when I make a title clip. It always fails to render. any suggestions? [04:15] the router will give you an ip via dhcp then you can keep it [04:16] Trel: are you trying to get us to help you set up a minecraft server at your workplace without IT finding out...? [04:16] Darwin, I found the issue. It's my SD card reader. [04:16] the router is set up to keep ip leases for a given period of time [04:16] as to allow for downtime [04:16] DarwinSurvivor: considering the owner is setting the static dhcp, no. [04:16] so you should get the same one every time you ask for one [04:16] I'm just very constrained by his weird-ass rules. [04:16] provided the lease doesn't expire [04:16] it's a common setup [04:17] im not even sure what the rules are meant to do... [04:17] hey is anyone here familar with moneypak greendot? [04:17] trel use dhclient [04:17] waxgoblin: seriously [04:17] ApocGoD: ok, leave that unplugged, wait a minute, run dmesg (pastebin it), plug in webcam, run dmesg (pastebin it), lsusb (pastebin it), unplug webcam (pastebin it) [04:17] gtfo [04:17] 4 pastebin's in total [04:17] I am, thanks for the help. [04:17] hey is anyone here familar with moneypak greendot??? [04:17] Trel: You want to configure /etc/network/interfaceI [04:17] then set up the ip it gives you as a static ip for that server [04:17] done deal [04:18] @DarwinSurvivor, I got the webcam to work also..I think i'm good to go. :D [04:18] help please [04:18] i know [04:18] oh god [04:18] ApocGoD: what did you do to get it working? [04:18] ask a real question [04:18] waxgoblin, this isn't the place for those type of questions. [04:19] lol [04:19] "oh god" [04:19] lol [04:19] also what kind of company has a minecraft server run by someone who can't configure an ip address? [04:19] @DarwinSurvivor, It was interfering with the mouse, since it's all plugged into a USB hub. Thanks for your help :D [04:19] not to be rude (blame the vicodin) [04:19] z3r0d3rp: too much time spent playing minecraft [04:20] ApocGoD: ah, cheap hubs can do that :P [04:20] @DarwinSurvivor, Mhm, now to just plug it in normally, haha. Thanks [04:20] I'm suppoesd to be setting up a company minecraft server. I can set up an IP address but I've never played minecraft. is that better or worse? [04:20] ApocGoD: no problem [04:20] better [04:21] d: [04:21] I haven't played MC since alpha [04:21] joemppe: IT experts get paid more than box stackers, as a rule [04:21] lol [04:21] mdel: and yet many IT experts are expected to stack their own boxes :( [04:21] I am a network admin and security consultant but I am unemployed so... [04:22] not always true [04:22] lol [04:22] how to add app to startup [04:22] d'oh [04:22] / [04:22] !autorun [04:22] azl: HOW IS BABBY FORMED [04:22] there is no way a clerk could have stole a greendot money pak is there? [04:22] waxgoblin: dude... wtf are you talking about... not the right place [04:22] no idea :D LOL [04:22] waxgoblin: are you on drugs? [04:22] !startup [04:22] To add programs to start up when you log into your Gnome session go to System>Preferences>Sessions and use the Startup Programs tab. For more information, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AddingProgramToSessionStartup - See !boot for starting non-interactive programs at boot [04:22] I am on drugs lol [04:23] im scared man [04:23] i put $300 on the card [04:23] !kick [04:23] yup, me too [04:23] damn [04:23] i was scratching off the silver lining with my fingernail and two numbers came off [04:23] waxgoblin: whats wrong man? [04:23] thx [04:23] is there anyway to check the balance [04:23] ? [04:23] waxgoblin: ywah [04:23] yeah* [04:23] mdel: just ignore him, he's obviously trolling [04:23] how? [04:23] without getting the account locked [04:23] waxgoblin: scratch the rest off [04:23] lol [04:23] what does a 4 look like [04:23] on a greendot [04:24] waxgoblin: not ubuntu related.... take it elsewhere [04:24] does it have _ at the bottom [04:24] ? [04:24] waxgoblin: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation. [04:24] im usin 11.10 [04:24] how can i check the balance [04:24] if i was to call greendot can they figure it out [04:24] if i give them the receipt number [04:24] they are closed now [04:24] oh god [04:24] azl it's in preferences startup applications [04:24] :( [04:25] hit super key type start [04:25] select startup applications [04:25] quick question - if i cd into a file, but it's empty and i want to add content to it from the terminal, what commands do i run? [04:26] what package is best to support tor network on Lubuntu? when I look at tork I see it will install a large group of libs [04:26] nontechnical: define "content" [04:26] nontechnical: you dont cd into a file [04:26] !tor | sacarlson [04:26] sacarlson: Tor is a program to route connections through several servers for anonymity. It is in Ubuntu's repositories, but the Tor Project recommends using their Tor packages due to past issues with Ubuntu's. For setup info, see option (2) of https://www.torproject.org/docs/debian.html.en | To use Tor on freenode, see !tor-sasl [04:26] im creating a https server [04:26] i could use gedit, but wondering if theres a way to do it in terminal [04:27] you can make a file with the touch or echo commands [04:27] !editors | nontechnical [04:27] nontechnical: Text Editors: gedit (GNOME), Kate (KDE), mousepad (Xfce4) - Terminal-based: nano, vi/vim, emacs, ed - For HTML/CSS editors, see !html - For programming editors and IDE, see !code [04:27] you have to touch /directory/filename to ake a file first [04:27] At what time is the official release? [04:27] then use a text editor [04:27] LeV91: no set time [04:27] !editors [04:27] bbl [04:27] you can also directly output to a file [04:28] but that is more advanced [04:28] nontechnical: nano is easiest for beginners [04:28] how do bash [04:28] I like nano a lot [04:28] lol [04:28] personal preference [04:28] vim, sublime text 2 :) [04:28] 'echo this is a way to add text to a file from the command line > likethis.txt' [04:28] um, no [04:28] I too am waiting for release, when can we get it? [04:29] DarwinSurvivor: I did a search in synaptic on Lubuntu and didn't see the tor package, I am now apt-get update; to see if it fills in [04:29] ok thanks [04:29] emacs fo lyfe [04:29] wylde: that would REPLACE the text. to ADD a line, use >> [04:29] Umair: when its ready [04:29] Umair: >> [04:29] DarwinSurvivor: I know :) I was getting there, you can use > to an empty file [04:29] no stomp [04:29] that command was in correct anyway [04:30] quotes are fubar [04:30] wylde: yes and a file with content also [04:30] how to enable window animations in ubuntu 11.10 [04:30] hnsz: if you want to overwrite it [04:30] echo /dev/random >> derp.txt [04:31] wylde: idd [04:31] z3r0d3rp: don't use that for secure erasure. some filesystems create a new file and simply rewrite the entry in the fs table. [04:32] nope no tor package found in Lubuntu maybe in ppa? [04:32] how to enable window animations in ubuntu 11.10 [04:32] I don't I use wipe or bleachbit [04:32] z3r0d3rp: shred -vuz file.ext [04:32] a single overwrite on ext4 is good enough on modern disks [04:35] anyone else here hate unity until they realized that it has almost no overhead on a laptop? [04:35] i still hate unity, it has overhead on my laptop (asus 1215n), bc the opengl does not work at all :( [04:36] I tested 36 minute power extension in my laptop idling over cinnamon and 50 minutes over kde [04:37] since I use kupfer for everything anyway I decided that it was pretty effective [04:37] still don't care for it on a workstation though [04:38] Can anybody tell me the directory that precise saves desktop settings in the home directory? .gconf and .gnome2 used to be the directories I duplicated in Lucid to make all my machines the same. [04:38] Ztane, what kind of gpu do you have? [04:38] centaur5, defends on the WM and DM [04:38] depends [04:39] <|DM|> wut? [04:39] z3r0d3rp, default of course [04:39] <|DM|> z3r0d3rp: you called? [04:39] Anyone still around that can help with Sun Java install? [04:39] <|DM|> defend on me? [04:40] when can i download 12.04 lts? [04:40] I think you are looking for .config [04:41] centaur5: it also depends on the app. some are hardwired for one or the other, others go by the framework (gtk, qt), others use something else entirely [04:41] !outyet arinov [04:41] ^ [04:41] wtf, is it out?!? [04:41] when is 12.04 going to be released?? [04:41] I think he is looking for unity settings etc [04:41] oh, forgot the | :P === dirtypillows is now known as ShameSpiral [04:41] !outyet | arinov [04:41] arinov: Nope! Ubuntu 12.04 is scheduled for release sometime on April 26th. You can party in #ubuntu-release-party while you're waiting! [04:41] z3r0d3rp, I guess I'll have to try that out. I want to replicate desktop wallpaper and configurations in the new "system settings" control panel. [04:42] z3r0d3rp: oh, oops. [04:42] umm, isn't it April 26th today?? [04:42] a_b0y: yes, but they didn't say it would be release in the morning now did they? :P [04:42] there is also gconf and gconfd [04:42] April 26th what timezone? :P [04:43] Can not get sun java to install following the directions on https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Java http://paste.ubuntu.com/946775/ [04:43] when is the Lunbuntu 12.04 going to be released today too? [04:43] I know people are already asking.... Can I get 12.04 yet? [04:43] !isitout [04:43] Nope! Ubuntu 12.04 is scheduled for release sometime on April 26th. You can party in #ubuntu-release-party while you're waiting! [04:43] I just hope unified menus are still there because using HUD for certain programs is going to suck [04:43] kip, due to oracle java won't be available anymore [04:43] z3r0d3rp, Right, i copied gconf and gnome2 as those were the directories that used to accomplish my setting configurations now those directories are apparently outdated. [04:44] try .config also [04:44] you can use openjdk [04:44] Then they need to change the web page on how to get it. [04:44] or download java manually [04:44] yea I know [04:44] tons of places are like this [04:45] I don't think I ever use java for anything [04:45] z3r0d3rp, Okay, I'll .config now. Thanks for the suggestion. [04:45] The program I have needs sun java JRE 6. And the instructions on how to install it manually are broken. [04:45] kip can't you get it in restricted extras [04:45] They do not work. [04:45] just download from sun [04:45] or is that removed? [04:45] kip: did you try openjdk from the repos? [04:45] or oracle now [04:46] The instructions say Sun Java. [04:46] kip try adding the mint repos [04:46] I think mint still has it for 11.10 [04:46] http://www.oracle.com/technetwork/java/javase/downloads/index.html [04:46] !isitout [04:46] Nope! Ubuntu 12.04 is scheduled for release sometime on April 26th. You can party in #ubuntu-release-party while you're waiting! [04:46] lol [04:47] The SW is a pain to install, and there are enough problems without introducing a different java. [04:48] How do we change the documentation page to say the instructions do not work? [04:48] http://www.oracle.com/technetwork/java/javase/downloads/jre-6u31-download-1501637.html [04:48] this is java 6 broskie [04:48] Ubuntu homepage stopped responding [04:49] so is Lunbuntu 12.04 going to be released today too? [04:49] But that does not install it in the right place or set up all of the links. [04:49] home page works fine [04:49] the ubuntu package doesn't work for 6? [04:49] a_b0y: nobody in here knows that. [04:50] nvm [04:50] I followed the instructions from https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Java [04:51] They do not work. === Lupinedk is now known as lupinedk [04:52] kip what didn't work? it wouldn't install, wouldn't run, what errors did you get? [04:52] kip openjdk should install fine. [04:52] http://bit.ly/IFiNHJ [04:53] DarwinSurvor http://paste.ubuntu.com/946775/ [04:53] kip http://bit.ly/IFiNHJ [04:54] Success 10.04LTS boots on the Dell 1950! 11.10 is buggy with a race condition on dual nic card machines. [04:54] PPA did not work either. There was a download erroor twice. [04:54] I hope the bug is fixed in 12 [04:54] kip have you tried openjdk? that is the recommended one to use since Oracle is F*$$($#ing up the other ones for linux users [04:55] how many hrs are remaining for Ubuntu 12.04 release? [04:55] ... [04:56] I have not tried it, because the author of the SW said to use Sun Java 6, and it is a PITA to install and get right, and I do not want another thing that could go wrong. [04:56] !outyet | kapsdd [04:56] kapsdd: Nope! Ubuntu 12.04 is scheduled for release sometime on April 26th. You can party in #ubuntu-release-party while you're waiting! [04:56] how many times do we have to hear that question today [04:56] lol [04:56] don't make me pull this irc over [04:56] kip, well ubuntu recommends openjdk, so give that a try [04:57] * flanagan testet [04:58] !isitout | DarwinSurvivor [04:58] DarwinSurvivor: Nope! Ubuntu 12.04 is scheduled for release sometime on April 26th. You can party in #ubuntu-release-party while you're waiting! [04:58] the sooner it's released the less you have to hear about it :D [04:59] ubuntu should make an actual smartphone O/S === mobile is now known as ex0z [05:00] a_b0y: you mean like this? http://www.ubuntu.com/devices/android [05:01] that just piggybacks off of android [05:02] a_b0y: the problem is hardware companies using locked down hardware and using binary blobs into android. [05:02] i don't trust google with my privacy and especially the remote access they have on all android phones [05:02] just found a typo on that page >_> [05:03] and canonical has clearly stated that they are NOT interrested in handling hardware, they will just certify it as "works" [05:03] a_b0y: the n900 runs debian with apt-get and everything, you can get them used on ebay for pretty cheap [05:03] DarwinSurvivor: Finally got Ubuntu to run on Dell 1950 server and boot. How do you config su passwd [05:04] yeah i saw some youtube videos of people installing the standard ubuntu o/s on their phones lol [05:04] awisepilot: you shouldn't need to have a password set, but if you REALLY do, "sudo passwd" [05:04] why not set a psswd [05:04] awisepilot: why set one? [05:05] smartphone hardware compatibility should be the same as PC compatibility [05:05] sooo.. having multiple desktops, how would I be able to choose which one is represented during boot? [05:05] we are asking the same questions with two points of view. What are the pros and cons? [05:06] Sudo -i is better tan a passwd [05:06] Feels like a more secure solution [05:06] awisepilot: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RootSudo covers the pros and cons of each method [05:06] I saw people dual booting android and BT5 R2 at Black Hat [05:06] i actually trust microsoft more than google, since organizations with lots of private data use microsoft [05:07] didn't function as a phone in BT though [05:07] is ubuntu nix? [05:07] Let me read Flannel, thatnks [05:07] Let me read Flannel, thanks [05:07] Derpnix kernel 1.0 [05:08] err unix? [05:09] Yes [05:10] cool thanks! [05:12] Does Ubuntu have a similar interface like SLES called Yast? [05:13] Can anyone help me understand when the release of 12.04 will happen in terms of hours? [05:14] 1am est [05:14] maybe :P [05:14] "Soon" [05:14] !isitout | paulsomebody [05:14] paulsomebody: Nope! Ubuntu 12.04 is scheduled for release sometime on April 26th. You can party in #ubuntu-release-party while you're waiting! [05:15] awisepilot: apt [05:15] awisepilot: not exactly; there's a settings panel, but it lacks all the server and sysadmin stuff YAST has. [05:15] * paulsomebody wonders why does everyone is so eager to provide pointless uninformative answers. [05:15] would vidalia be a good gui candidate to control tor in Lubuntu? I got tor installed now just want a gui to play with it [05:15] xangua: Thank you. [05:15] paulsomebody: sometime after it becomes April 26th in Kiritimati (it already has) and sometime before it becomes April 27th in Midway. [05:15] there is no set time for release [05:15] Flannel: Thank you, oh wizard of time zones. [05:16] paulsomebody: That's as close as anyone other than those actually pushing the big red button can get you at this point. [05:16] HELP! I went to change mawk out for gawk and muon uninstalled 24 files and now it won't install ANYTHING. :( I just get a error 127. [05:19] Muon even uninstalled my bash shell. :( [05:19] Tried apt and its not install in the default 10.04 setup. Type: sudo apt-get install openjdk-6-jdk and it complained and did not install apt. Am I missing something? [05:19] Impressive [05:21] awisepilot: apt is an integral part of Ubuntu. It's not possible for it not to be installed. [05:23] Interesting, I was asking about a compatible application like yast and I was given apt. [05:24] I guess apt is not the answer, what is? [05:24] there is nothing analogous to yast in ubuntu [05:24] If the command gave you an error post the error [05:24] Maybe somebody made a tool wich is like yast for ubuntu [05:25] UGh. I just tried apt-get clean and purge and install for bash and nothing. Just a error 127 still. :( [05:25] Probably the closest you can get to YAST in Ubuntu is webmin [05:26] cool, how do you run that [05:26] It's a web-based thing; you download it from webmin's website and then connect in a browser [05:27] !webmin [05:27] webmin is no longer supported in Debian and Ubuntu. It is not compatible with the way that Ubuntu packages handle configuration files, and is likely to cause unexpected issues with your system. [05:28] well, if you say so; works fine for me [05:30] to all users using 11.10 : DO NOT start update trough the update manager, use only the terminal "apt-get update" otherwise your window frames will dissapear and PulseAudio will fail! [05:30] wat [05:31] Alright. Is there a file that I need to delete or something to get my aptitude back? I just lost half my system just because I tried to change out mawk for gawk. I'm tired of reinstalling entires OS's after all the time I spent reinstalling Windoze. [05:31] that makes no sense [05:31] It may not. But I was using Muon to swap them out and it decided to remove 24 packages for no reason. I don't even have bash anymore. [05:31] reinstall mawk [05:31] I can't. Error 127. [05:32] opening Update Manager and clicking 'Update' is the same as typing 'apt-get update' at a terminal. [05:32] remember 11.10 is not LTS so consider installing 11.04 for better support [05:32] lol [05:32] 11.04 isn't lts either [05:32] shpeka what are you doing [05:32] shpeka: 10.04 is LTS [05:32] yes it is [05:32] nope.jpg [05:32] No, it is not. [05:33] 10.04 and 12.04 are LTS. [05:33] shpeka: neither 11.04 is LTS [05:33] my opinion is not to start an update [05:33] ITT: people who can't package manager [05:33] lol [05:33] if u start update everything will be f*cked [05:33] Dito. Last update I did I got an error 127 and had to reinstall Ubuntu. [05:33] shepka you fail GTFO [05:33] !language | shpeka [05:33] shpeka: Please watch your language and topic to help keep this channel family-friendly, polite, and professional. [05:34] I can't install or uninstall ANYTHING. It's ALL error 127. [05:34] i just ran update 15 minutes ago and it was fine [05:34] also do not force restart when you are installing a .deb package [05:34] people install broken PPA's then run update and break things [05:35] protip: you screwed it up [05:35] jswagner: just for your info. Running update through update-manager and using "sudo apt-get update" are totally different things and the second will not update your system, just the status of the PACKAGES files [05:35] lol iceroot_ [05:35] z3r0d3rp: yes? [05:35] yuri__: do you have wget still? [05:35] I think he meant upgrade [05:36] iceroot_: well if we're getting catty about it, there is no update buttin on update manager. [05:36] L3top: Lemme check. [05:36] button [05:36] L3top: Yes. [05:36] z3r0d3rp: upgrade is still different to update from update-manager [05:36] in Lubuntu 10.04 my screen is too small to view a complete gui panel, what key sequence is used to drag to the bottom of the gui so I can hit the accept botton? [05:36] z3r0d3rp: dist-upgrade would do the same job [05:36] sacarlson: alt gr + mouse click [05:36] he broke his distro with a bad ppa [05:37] yuri__: you could try wgetting the apt .deb and dpkg -i it. [05:37] it would have broken with apt also [05:37] L3top: Can you walk me through that real quick? I've used just about everything but wget over the years. :/ [05:37] iceroot_: in Lubuntu I tried drag with left and right mouse and it don't work [05:37] how to install gnome3 on 10.04? [05:37] wget http://path-to-file [05:37] what version are you on? [05:37] sacarlson: alt gr not alt [05:37] yuri__: just run "wget URL" [05:37] I installed a ppa in 10.04 to get vlc 2... replaced dpkg and totally broke everything [05:37] pankaj: its not compatible [05:38] L3top: 11.10 [05:38] yuri__: it will then download whatever file that url is, html, jpg, deb whatever. [05:38] iceroot_: what's alt gr? [05:38] yuri__: wget "URL" i#it is has a query string [05:38] pankaj, 11.10 is pretty stable... no real reason to be on 10.04 [05:38] sacarlson: is it called different in english? hm, the alt key right to the space bar [05:38] z3r0d3rp: its LTS and solid :) [05:39] Alright. My problem is what is the url and path to apt.deb [05:39] if you want LTS and solid use Debian [05:39] 10.04 is just old [05:39] two years is not old [05:39] more than two years [05:39] z3r0d3rp: true, some folks like its maturity though [05:40] sacarlson: sorry it was the normal alt key and double click in the window, hold the mouse and drag it [05:40] z3r0d3rp : 10.04 is LTS so consider using it , its better than 10.10 [05:40] ActionParsnip, how to install gnome3 on 10.04? [05:40] yuri__: looking it up now... [05:40] iceroot_: I just verified that drag right mouse on ubuntu does work as you say but it's not working in Lubuntu in the same way [05:40] pankaj: dont to that, it will break the system [05:40] L3top: Thank you. :) [05:40] will the 12.04 isos be the same as the daily-live/20120425 isos? [05:41] iceroot_, why? [05:41] sacarlson: running fine here on lubuntu [05:41] pankaj: theres a PPA but it will more tahn likely brake your OS [05:41] sacarlson: alt + left double click then drag [05:41] iceroot_: oh maybe it's a virtualbox thing? [05:41] hi, how are you doing guys? Does anyone know what time they are releasing ubuntu 12 final? [05:41] I used BT5 R2 with a 3.2.6 kernel for a while... problem is that all the software is outdated and you have to break and troubleshoot everything to get it up to date [05:41] !isitout | rubiks [05:41] rubiks: Nope! Ubuntu 12.04 is scheduled for release sometime on April 26th. You can party in #ubuntu-release-party while you're waiting! [05:42] oh thanks! [05:42] z3r0d3rp: if you want a rolling release, debian/ubuntu/mint/backtrack is not what you want [05:42] I don't [05:42] he said use 10.04 [05:42] yuri__: 64 or i386? [05:42] I did [05:42] z3r0d3rp: are you using backtrack for your daily stuff like emails? [05:42] when it was new [05:42] What time does the new version? [05:42] L3top: 64. [05:42] Antunes: later [05:43] I do pen testing for work so yes I had it installed as a main distro in my notebook [05:43] s [05:43] ActionParsnip, i cant install another os (11.10 ) as i dont have much space left and i have lots things already installed in 10.04. so isnt there any way to install gnome3 on 10.04 [05:43] but I also had it overhauled [05:43] L3top: Is there an apt log somewhere to show what 24 packages were all removed? I looked up and it was already uninstalling and there was no cancel button. :( [05:43] ActionParsnip, without breaking the os [05:43] pankaj: there is a PPA, your choice if you use it [05:43] yuri__: /var/log/apt/term.log [05:43] pankaj: no, its not compatible, as I said [05:44] yuri__: wget http://security.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/pool/main/a/apt/apt_0.8.16~exp5ubuntu13.2_amd64.deb [05:44] L3top: I think I'm screwed. There's no var directory now. [05:44] yuri__: dpkg -i apt_0.8.16~exp5ubuntu13.2_amd64.deb [05:44] L3top: that'll need sudo ;) [05:44] yeah... you got a lotta chunk... [05:44] yuri__, you should test before removing things [05:45] how long before 12.04 LTS Final Freeze is out? [05:45] gametstr: soon [05:45] or do it in terminal so that you can cancel [05:45] I was going to remove openssl and update manually [05:45] !12.04 [05:45] Ubuntu 12.04 LTS (Precise Pangolin) is the 16th release of Ubuntu and is in Beta testing from 2nd March, Discussion and support until final release in #ubuntu+1 [05:45] correct. ActionParsnip. that is one of my worst flaws giving advice, as I am so often in a root environment. [05:45] *sigh* Since now that half my directory tree seems to be missing, any suggestions? [05:45] but it would have ripped out 75% of the system [05:46] only one package update in the last 4 days. sounds we are on a good way :) [05:46] package management is far from perfect [05:46] well... 1204 is coming out soon... that would be my suggestion. Sorry yuri__. [05:46] Hey all, why can't i do one one line : ssh www.mysite.com "sudo su -l username" [05:46] when ever i try do that it just hanges [05:46] but if i ssh in, and then run that command it works fine [05:46] lol that is not how it works [05:46] username of course being a user on the system [05:47] friskd: ssh foo@bar 'command' [05:47] ssh user@ip [05:47] friskd: why not just use: ssh username@www.mysite.com [05:47] http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lgXJbJeRxHo [05:47] welli can do ssh www.mystie.com because my local user is the same as the remote server name [05:48] friskd: so why the -l thing? [05:48] so yes i could do ssh myuser@www.mysite.com "sudo su -l someotherusername" [05:48] friskd: ssh different-user-name@host [05:48] ^ [05:48] friskd: ssh someotherusername@www.mysite.com [05:48] I have a user lets call it company [05:48] so any user can ssh in as them selves [05:48] then sudo su -l company [05:48] friskd: ssh company@www.mysite.com [05:49] Hello [05:49] friskd: ssh company@host [05:49] and then they have access to run and edit a bunch of scripts in /home/company [05:49] someone help me please [05:49] friskd: yes, as you would be logging in as company [05:49] why wouldn't you establish a session first? [05:49] i am getting this message when i try to connect to internet and it becomes slow [05:49] CCP terminated by peer (No compression negotiated^@) [05:49] Compression disabled by peer. [05:49] L3top: How much longer until 1204? [05:50] ripthejacker: what is the output of: lsb_release -sc [05:50] i suppose i could do that, and then just all all my engineers ssh keys into the company authorized_keys file [05:50] I was trying to keep it that anyone that had sudo could do it [05:50] Hours at this point I think? [05:50] No telling exactly yuri__ [05:50] And btw, whatever went wrong in muon, it took all kinds of stuff. I dunno if I could have rebooted. lsb-core, alien, ubuntu-standard, bsd-mailx, this is a scary glitch. :( [05:50] hi guys.. i had mounted a FTP folder using the gui at my work machine.. can someone tell me how i can access it from the terminal? [05:51] friskd: EVERYONE can use sudo? [05:51] friskd, that sounds very insecure [05:51] no [05:51] i mean where are the FTP folders mounted? [05:51] so i have 3 engineers [05:51] that i have as admins with sudo access [05:51] so those three guys can deploy [05:51] i have bash script that can be run locally which should connect to the server, sudo su -l company [05:52] ? [05:52] inside of the /home/company folder i have a few scripts taht i want my script to run [05:52] friskd: ssh company@host that is the solution [05:52] ActionParsnip, it says oneiric [05:52] friskd: then put them in the admin group and they will be able to use sudo [05:52] friskd: upload your public key if you dont want to type passwords [05:52] ripthejacker: cool, how do you connect to the web? [05:52] iceroot_: yea, that would require i add all my engineers ssh keys into the comapny authorized_keys file [05:52] rp-pppoe [05:52] friskd: they do it, not you [05:53] ActionParsnip, rp-pppoe [05:53] *SCREAMS* I'm still getting error 127 even after reinstalling apt. :( [05:53] friskd: if someone has ssh access to your system he can put his public key on it [05:53] ripthejacker: i've no experience there, sorry. Maybe others can assist [05:53] can someone tell where the FTP folders are mounted? [05:53] thats true. [05:53] yuri_ it is faster to do a fresh install than repair a porked ont [05:53] Ok let me do it that way. [05:53] one* [05:53] it will work nicely [05:53] thanks guys. [05:53] nishttal2: ~/.gvfs [05:53] friskd: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation. [05:54] someone please help me [05:54] I'm sorry for being so stupid. It's been years since I've used Linux. Redhat 2.4 back in '98 was the last time I used it. Is there a way to reinstall Linux without losing anything but getting rid of the bugs in the current install? [05:54] CCP terminated by peer (No compression negotiated^@) [05:54] Compression disabled by peer. [05:54] Ubuntu 12.04 comes out today ;) [05:55] sooo.. having multiple desktops, how would I be able to choose which one is represented during boot? [05:55] And how do I get rid of mawk and put gawk in it's place without killing my install again? [05:55] ActionParsnip, perfect.. thanks! [05:55] ahoi [05:55] yuri__: I'd reinstall then restore user data from backup [05:55] yuri__: if you have an extra home partition its easy to reinstall [05:55] *sigh* [05:55] yuri__: You can move /home to another partition. [05:55] yuri__: yes, backup as you would with any other system and reinstall, i usually put in a livecd [05:55] True. I forgot about that. [05:56] and use tar cjvpf home.tar home/ [05:56] (p is important to preserve permissions) [05:56] though depending on how old the install is you're upgrading it might be best to reconfigure everything [05:56] I hope gparted still works. I have to make a new partition big enough on my other hd for this. [05:57] *sigh* I'm even going to have to backup my kernel. Yech. This stinks. [05:57] yuri__: why your kernel? [05:57] ActionParsnip, this after you told me to install dnsmasq [05:57] Is there a way to 'close' Thunderbird in Ubuntu 12.04, yet still get notifications? [05:57] i did but after installation when i tried to run it.. it said port already in use! [05:57] I've been sloooowly customizing the heck out of it over the last week. Just upgraded to 3.3.2 considering 3.4 soon. [05:57] ActionParsnip, ^^^ [05:58] nishttal2: dnsmasq can make your web faster [05:58] yuri__: ah ok [05:58] Now I'm waiting for someone to comment on how I can not know how to reinstall linux but know how to compile the kernel from scratch. ;) [05:58] yuri__: :) [05:59] ActionParsnip: what is dnsmasq? ubottu doesn't know anything about it... [05:59] It seems gparted disappeared with this nightmare as well. I may just have to leave the computer on until 1204 comes out and pray the power doesn't go out between now and then. ;) [05:59] ActionParsnip.. here is what I am trying to do... my work machine has to use an internal DNS (192.168.42.50) to resolve internal servers (say bart) and i need 8.8.8.8 to access sites like GMAIL.. how can i setup something so its seamless... [05:59] yuri__: what is the initial issue? [05:59] gparted will work from livecd if it isn't yuri__ [06:00] ActionParsnip, if the request for gmail goes to the internal DNS first if would block/reject it [06:00] iceroot: Initial issue is I tried to replace mawk with gawk and 24 essentials got ripped out from under me and now I have no OS. Just what's in RAM. BASH, original ubuntu kernel, core stuff. Poof. :( [06:00] CCP terminated by peer (No compression negotiated^@) [06:00] Compression disabled by peer. [06:00] i am getting this error message please help [06:00] ActionParsnip, i tried to setup both as DNS (space separated) but it only uses the 1st one listed in the list [06:01] yuri__: no working apt/dpkg? [06:01] Meh ****. error 127. Installed a new aptitude and still get 127. [06:02] has 12.04 been released yet? [06:02] yuri__: any output of "dpkg --version"? [06:02] uBUxUBu: no [06:02] omg omgomg omg mgoogm [06:02] nishttal2: use commas to seperate [06:02] nevermind, i thought it was finally released :P [06:03] nishttal2: you also need to tell dnsmasq to listen on 127.0.0.1 [06:03] My computer is now possessed. I can't use more than one option with tar. Tells me to use a label or something really creepy. :( I was going to tar cjvpf home.tar home/. [06:03] ActionParsnip, can i not do it without dnsmasq.. as it didnt run.. it said port already in use [06:03] yuri__: any output of "dpkg --version"? [06:04] yuri__: might be worth waiting a few hours [06:04] Yeah. Just a sec. dpkg works. [06:04] ubuntu 12.04 LTS is about to be released any hour now [06:04] nishttal2: put gmail in /etc/hosts that will overwrite dns-server [06:04] iceroot_, how come Xubuntu 12.04 is released.. i thought they followed the main Ubuntu release schedule [06:04] 1.16.0.3 (amd64) [06:04] nishttal2: its not released [06:04] nishttal2: tried a reboot? [06:04] what time zone does https://wiki.ubuntu.com/PrecisePangolin/ReleaseSchedule follow [06:05] yuri__: fine, any outpout of "dpkg -l | grep -v ^ii | grep -v ^rc"? [06:05] i assume it will be released at 12:00 whatever timezone they work in, i assumed it was UTC [06:05] !paste | yuri__ [06:05] yuri__: For posting multi-line texts into the channel, please use http://paste.ubuntu.com | To post !screenshots use http://imagebin.org/?page=add | !pastebinit to paste directly from command line | Make sure you give us the URL for your paste - see also the channel topic. [06:05] iceroot_, i was using gmail as an example.. but there are many other sites.. is there no seamless way for the system to try both dns servers [06:05] ActionParsnip, actually no.. i didnt reboot [06:05] its 705pm in samoa april 26? [06:05] hi all [06:05] iceroot_, it says Download 12.04 (and doesnt say beta).. this morning it was showing a countdown (1 to go) [06:06] once 12.04 does get out, do you reckon there will be enough server capacity to download the cd image without wanting to gouge my eyes out :D [06:06] is that 12.04 out ? [06:06] It's empty. Nothing to be installed or removed or broken. [06:06] nishttal2: probably find it's ok after that, remember to edit /etc/dnsmasq.conf so that it is listening to loacalhost [06:06] i want to install 12.04 [06:06] I doubt that there will be enough bandwidth to handle all of us. [06:06] ubuntu website is beta2! [06:06] pengw: you'll see the motd change when it is [06:06] everyone says it is great [06:06] 12.04 is still in final beta [06:07] nishttal2: sorry i can just say "man resolv.conf" never used something like you want [06:07] iceroot_, ok np.. thanks [06:07] SOrry. I found this in the last output from dpkg: 4.13a.dfsg.1-8ubuntu1 [06:08] iceroot_, any idea as to when 12.04 would be released.. it was supposed to be today rt? [06:08] ActionParsnip, ok thanks.. will try in the morning [06:08] nishttal2: no dont know, sometime today [06:08] i am waiting it for a long time . [06:08] nishttal2: sometime today, whenever it's considered "ready" by the release manager [06:08] iceroot_, ok great [06:09] tsimpson, cant wait.. hopefull compiz would work without glitches on 12.04 [06:09] today is a really bad for me i have been over changed for repairing my car. [06:09] tsimpson, i missed my desktop cube and wobbly windows on 11.10 [06:11] !ot | pengw [06:11] pengw: #ubuntu is the Ubuntu support channel, for all Ubuntu-related support questions. Please use #ubuntu-offtopic for other topics (though our !guidelines apply there too). Thanks! [06:12] i prefer using gnome classic [06:13] unity is not suit for me [06:13] is it easy to switch from unity to classic? [06:13] install gnome shell [06:13] !notunity | bluescreen [06:13] bluescreen: Ubuntu 11.10 uses GNOME 3 with the !unity shell by default. To use GNOME Shell instead, install the "gnome-shell" package and investigate "gnome-tweak-tool". For GNOME Fallback mode, which is similar to GNOME 2, install "gnome-panel". Both packages will place entries in the Sessions dropdown. Using Natty? See !classic [06:13] bluescreen: sudo apt-get install gnome-panel [06:13] hi [06:14] ubuntu 12.04 released or not... [06:15] why so eager? [06:15] what torrent-cli-client is worth using? need something for the 12.04 isos. great would be something ncurse-based [06:15] bluescreen: http://www.omgubuntu.co.uk/2012/03/gnome-classic-in-ubuntu-12-04-its-like-nothing-ever-changed/ [06:15] user1: no it's not out yet [06:15] user1: when the motd says its out, it's out [06:16] deluge [06:16] Ummm... I'm trying to tar my home directory as suggested earlier and everything is coming out encrypted. Will this be a problem when I go to restore it on a fresh install? [06:16] iceroot_, try deluge [06:16] iceroot_: rtorrent [06:16] When is ubuntu 12.04 releasing? [06:16] deluge > rtorrent [06:17] coming out of the beta? [06:17] 4-26-12 [06:17] z3r0d3rp: does deluge have an ncurses UI? [06:17] uBUxUBu, time? [06:17] z3r0d3rp: thanks, deluge would pull to much for me === matias is now known as Guest64695 [06:17] ActionParsnip: thx [06:17] need a bot that has set triggers to people asking for release time [06:17] not sure [06:17] z3r0d3rp: some x11 libs and so on... [06:17] i remember why i avoid this channel on release day now.... ;) [06:18] lol are you running on a 386? [06:18] Valtam: They could put a note about it on ubuntu.com, too... [06:18] dr_willis: is it out now? :) [06:18] z3r0d3rp: hence rtorrent, not deluge. So in this situation due to requirements rtorrent > deluge [06:18] I suppose [06:18] iceroot_: its been delayed till the 32nd. [06:18] colonelqubit, Valtam ya no data on ubuntu.com, they could have a countdown or something [06:18] z3r0d3rp: headless debian server and there i dont want 100 additional packsges [06:19] dr_willis: :) [06:19] iceroot_, it has a cli client [06:19] colonelqubit]$ they don't do that so they can avoid hammering at one point in time [06:19] iceroot_: or use transmission cli, enable the web UI and control it from another PC using transgui [06:19] hi guys i needed helpp [06:19] Valtam: That makes absolutely no sense [06:19] ActionParsnip: so its running as a daemon? [06:19] Valtam: Either way, people are going to hammer on it [06:19] Valtam, anupadhikari_: a countdown would require a fixed time when release is happening, that fixed time doesn't exist so there can be no count down [06:19] it wuld be a good idea for the torrent release [06:19] iceroot_: yeah there is transmission-cli or similar [06:19] deluge is about ten times fasten than rtorrent or transmission also supports plugins [06:19] on my browser or any programe [06:20] minimize ,maximize and close button not showing [06:20] z3r0d3rp: i only need it for -23 days to provide the ubuntu torrents [06:20] One easy way to avoid hammering the release servers is for them to just push it out over bittorrent 30 minutes before any other protocol [06:20] tsimpson, so there is no fix time, why? [06:20] if you are seeding then use utorrent server derp [06:20] plzz helppppppppppppppppppppppppppppppppp [06:20] anupadhikari_: because they don't know. [06:21] anupadhikari_: because things happen on the day that can't be predicted, the release team have a general idea, but nothing is in stone [06:21] I haven't used utorrent server but that is what it was designed for/to do [06:21] jalal: the title bar showing at all? [06:21] no [06:21] likewise the utorrent protocol is faster and more efficient on a network [06:21] dr_willis, I am seriously, really confused,no joking, what are you saying, they don't know? [06:21] yes title showing [06:21] jalal: compiz crashed sounds like [06:22] z3r0d3rp: good info, i will have a look at it later, now i am running rtorrent in screen, it has ncurses, so its ok for my needs [06:22] !release [06:22] Ubuntu releases a new version every 6 months. Each version is supported for 18 months to 5 years. More info at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Releases & http://wiki.ubuntu.com/TimeBasedReleases [06:22] i install ubuntu tweak [06:22] so what is solution for that? [06:22] compiz --replace [06:22] my cursor coming in x symbol [06:22] anupadhikari_: they dont know when it will get updated to all the servers.. so they dont know an exact time when they will all be ready to 'go' [06:22] bad drivers could be [06:23] dr_willis, oh, thanks for the insight [06:23] any solution? [06:23] nvidia card? [06:23] anupadhikari_: if its that critical for you.. install the dailyy build then update/upgrade... [06:23] yes [06:23] ubuntu tweak 0.7.0 released [06:23] if so manually install proprietary drivers [06:23] i have nvdia [06:23] do lspci -vv and find out what your card is [06:24] download the driver [06:24] drop to command line [06:24] ok wait [06:24] jalal: you could try making a new user and seeing if the issue exists for them also [06:24] stop gdm/lightdm [06:24] then run the script [06:24] Hello People ! [06:24] hi , does daily-build has mirrors other than http://cdimage.ubuntu.com ? [06:24] i open my broswer now i cant go back or open terminal [06:25] now i neeed too restart [06:25] try ctrl f1 then type compiz --replace then ctrl f7 [06:25] once i open any application i cant close it [06:25] because you don't have a WM [06:25] jalal: alt-ctrl-f1 login , use sudo service lightdm restart [06:25] Read FAQ, read installation FAQ, but not find that i need. I want install ubuntu-server-i386.iso from USB flash can you help me to find documentation how to do it ? [06:25] shortcut no working [06:25] my currect system Debian 5.0 [06:25] jalal, try alt f2 then type compiz --replace [06:26] either way you should run guake so that you always have a terminal one keystroke away [06:27] Hello! [06:27] Any Linux gurus out here? [06:27] Does anyone have a suggested partitioning scheme for a 40gb hard drive? Everytime I go to install ubuntu it gives me / and a swap partition. [06:28] yuri__: what more do you need? [06:28] Can anyone give me/tell me where to find these values for Ubuntu 10.04 kernel 2.6.32-33-generic? [06:28] yuri you might consider making a data partition [06:28] supreeth: uname -r ? [06:28] Well, I know what the convenience partitions are, by name, but not by size. [06:28] 512 mb for swap 10 gb for / 10 for /home 20gb for /windows [06:28] comm field, which contains the name of the process === root is now known as Guest8609 [06:28] 20 gigs is not enough for windows [06:29] not even close [06:29] I'm on a different system now. Ubuntu 11.04 [06:29] supreeth: what you looking for ? [06:29] pengw: i'd go with more than 1/2GB of swap [06:29] depeds on ram [06:29] I don't even use a swap , I have 4g memory [06:29] I'm interested in the 'comm field, which contains the name of the process' for Ubuntu 10.04 kernel 2.6.32-33-generic [06:29] Nick to be here. I have a removable harddisk. All partations are NTFS. My problem is one of the partitions won't automount. I have googled, but have no idea. [06:29] if you have 2.5 gigs and up you don't need a swap part except for laptop hibernation / video editing [06:29] Argh. I think it's time for me to format my old windows hard drive. 40gb just isn't enough. I'm at 20gb for my home directory already. [06:29] yuri__: with a 40g drive I'm guessing SSD /swap / should be all you need, hopefully you have a second drive that you can use for your /home partition after install. [06:30] holmescn: mount by hand. see if any errors show up [06:30] i was wondering if there are any debs for intellij idea [06:30] Hoyt: I'm interested in the 'comm field, which contains the name of the process' for Ubuntu 10.04 kernel 2.6.32-33-generic [06:30] *sigh* What would be the recommendations for a 500gb hard drive? I wasn't ready to drop windows when I first installed linux. [06:30] dr_willis: yes, it works, but not convinient. [06:30] My question can be forgeted .. thanks. [06:30] supreeth: I don't get it , what's the *'comm* field ? [06:30] pengw: because with over 4GB of ram, the only real use for swap is hibernation, in which case you need at least as much swap as ram [06:30] the community edition (open source, apl) is not in the official repos [06:31] yuri__, I have my kde system on my old box on a 20 gig drive but use part of my 80 gig Windows drive to store movies and stuff [06:31] to share between OS's [06:31] It's basically for a process tracker on the Simics simulator. [06:31] supreeth: top ? [06:31] Hoyt: It's basically for a process tracker on the Simics simulator. [06:31] And for those who are confused by myhatred of Windows at the moment, long story short: MS gave me a bunk keycode and it gave me 30 days to buy a new one, no money and MS won't replace the keycode. [06:31] same with my laptop... I have my torrent client configed to write to my windows part [06:31] holmescn: i just make fstab entries for mine [06:31] yuri__: you could use the 500g as what it is now, without formatting, you could put your /home partition onto it fstab just needs to know where to mount and what type of filesystem. [06:32] NTFS. [06:32] Win7. [06:32] keep it [06:32] just mount the drive in fstab [06:32] and use it for storage [06:32] keep windows on it [06:32] why ubuntu 12.04 is not ready for download ? [06:32] just try the daily build , it's almost the same [06:33] Win7 no more work. Don't need Windows for nothing now. [06:33] !outyet esak [06:33] !outyet | esak [06:33] esak: Nope! Ubuntu 12.04 is scheduled for release sometime on April 26th. You can party in #ubuntu-release-party while you're waiting! [06:33] yuri__: then use it as your /home [06:33] then just reinstall and use the big drive [06:33] yuri__: format it ext4 and add it to your fstab [06:33] or use parted and copy the partition [06:34] Hoyt: I'm basically tring to fill the fields from: http://www.cs.sfu.ca/~fedorova/Tech/simics-guides-3.0.26/simics-reference-manual-public-all/topic148.html for 2.6.32-33-generic [06:34] Yeah. I got wine for the /FEW/ win programs I'm still using. I'll just copy my users directory to another partition and then format win. [06:34] you can use gparted to copy your system to the larger drive [06:34] i am back,system need to restart [06:34] then there is one command to make your system see all the new space [06:34] ok i issue command compiz--replace [06:34] I can't remember what it is off the top of my head [06:35] my all system come back to normal [06:35] now what i do so i future it will not be like that? [06:35] jalal install compiz fusion icon [06:35] command? [06:35] setkeh! [06:35] that way you can use it to reset compiz from the gui [06:35] Woops. I guess I'll have to copy just my documents from win. ;) full users folder for me was over 100 GB. Yikes. Stupid Windows. [06:35] Optichip: ******* [06:35] sudo apt-get install fusion-icon [06:35] my system is back now [06:35] bluefish editor: When I reopen bluefish can I have the tabs I was working on last time open automatically? (Quanta plus has it) [06:35] setkeh when's ubuntu release?!? [06:35] *runs and hides* 328.1 GB for my old win docs. ;) [06:35] When will Ubunut be ready for DL [06:36] yuri__: a lot of that may be temp files [06:36] Optichip: When it Ready :} [06:36] installing icons brother [06:36] Is Arch better then Ubuntu? [06:36] bluefish: Save all button on toolbar. Possible? [06:36] please give me perfect solution [06:36] Optichip: you decide that for yourself [06:36] Optichip: arch has poor scripts than gentoo , that's all I know [06:36] Optichip: asking a question like that in #ubuntu isn't really a good idea [06:36] Optichip: hahahaha [06:36] lol yuri... even after removing any movies and media... my windows 7 system with applications and games is 200 gigs [06:36] because i cannot format my pc [06:36] Just double-checked. No temp files. No windows junk. It's all me. What did I download in those 30 days? :( === ubuntu__ is now known as cpatrick08 [06:37] eclipse or codeblock geany for C programming which one is you choice ? [06:37] tsimpson: why no you butt hurt :P [06:37] jalal you have something that is crashing compiz [06:37] I always go for VIM [06:37] you can restart it via alt f2 and compiz --replace [06:37] yah i gave compiz --replace then evrything back to normal [06:37] you should install guake anyway [06:38] setkeh: excuse me? [06:38] so that you can just hit f12 for a terminal [06:38] command?sorry i am new to linux [06:38] tsimpson: you excused what you do fart or somthing [06:38] sudo apt-get install guke [06:38] guake* [06:38] pengw: kdevelop [06:39] i still need to install compiz icons? [06:39] setkeh: if you want to start making sense now, that would be great [06:39] the compiz icon sits in your panel and lets you restart it if it messes up [06:39] how do I run ubuntu as root? [06:39] sudo su [06:39] sudo [06:39] apt-get install guake E: Could not get lock /var/lib/dpkg/lock - open (11: Resource temporarily unavailable) E: Unable to lock the administration directory (/var/lib/dpkg/), is another process using it? [06:39] i am in Gnome KDE is little bit slower [06:39] tsimpson: you asked me to excuse you i excused you then asked if it was because you farted is all :D [06:39] stripe, set a password for root [06:40] thanks [06:40] jalal you have to close synaptic [06:40] or just download it from synaptic [06:40] synaptic is closed brother [06:40] setkeh: no, I was referring to your message " tsimpson: why no you butt hurt :P" [06:40] it coz dpkg locked [06:40] stripe: what are you trying to acomplish exactly [06:40] you have either updates, software center or another terminal using it [06:41] than the automatic script to update your repos is running [06:41] just wait a minute [06:41] how to unlock var/dpkg? [06:41] what is it ubuntu alternate ? [06:41] !fixapt [06:41] If an APT front-end crashed and your database is locked, try this in a !terminal: « sudo fuser -vki /var/lib/dpkg/lock;sudo dpkg --configure -a » [06:41] sudo reboot [06:41] Is it out?! [06:41] !aptfix [06:41] hid3: no [06:41] tsimpson: why would the question "Is arch better than ubuntu" a bad idea are you but hurt thgat arch is better than ubuntu ?? [06:42] just for running occasional backup tasks, so I will have authority to write to another hard drive in my machine [06:42] arch = most overrated distro [06:42] Hid3: when you see the motd change, its out [06:42] z3r0d3rp: another one who is butthurt :P [06:42] stripe: use sudo as needed for root level tasks [06:42] setkeh: because this is a technical support channel for Ubuntu, obviously, and I'd ask you to try and stay on that topic from now on [06:42] real men run gentoo [06:42] ubuntu is best [06:42] you can keep your butthurt [06:43] Oh I thought I was in the overrated distro channel. [06:43] for ubuntoo root [06:43] Slackware pwns [06:43] change your pass then swicth too other account === FrankLv_ is now known as FrankLv [06:43] there login as root [06:43] z3r0d3rp: from stage 1 of course ;-) [06:43] arch is so that n00bs can spend 3 hours installing a system and think they are Stallman [06:44] tsimpson: what topic /topic "When will ubuntu 12.04 be available for download" some major topic we got goin on here [06:44] LFS ftw [06:44] hahhaha nice said z3r0d [06:44] dr willis thanks but it is aukwaqrd copying files from the terminal, I was thinking if I did it graphicaly it would be more time effective [06:44] jalal: or run: sudo -i no need for messing around [06:44] ok boss [06:44] stripe: you can run gui file managers as root... or set up cron jobs.. it depends on the details of whatgg you are doing [06:45] i am istall compiz icon [06:45] hi how can i remove delete rights from user (globally), he should not be able to delete any file, even files created by himself [06:45] i instll ubuntu tweak last night so i guess because of that ..problem arrieved [06:45] ServerCrash: what sort of work is the user supposed to be able to do then? [06:46] jalal: what proble [06:46] jalal: most likely some tweak you did.. not the tool itself.. [06:46] jalal what is ubuntu alternate ? [06:46] dr_willis, just create files, copy files, move files [06:46] dr willis never thought of that, running the file manager from the terminal , will try it. thanks [06:46] problem not people brother [06:46] jalal, 10.04? [06:46] if so then disable third party repos [06:46] ServerCrash: if he cant delete.. he cant move... [06:46] yes [06:46] then update [06:46] 10.04 [06:47] dr_willis, fine no problem he can alteast copy :) [06:47] 10.04 can crash compiz for any number of reasons [06:47] ServerCrash: time to check out the permissions features and perhaps use acl's [06:47] !acl [06:47] my system icon back now i want perfect solutions [06:47] so in future it will not be again [06:47] I want create a distro like Apodio with remaster [06:48] esak: installs a desktop OS in text mode [06:48] jalal: what issue did ubuntu tweak generate? [06:48] what is the better remastersys? UCK? [06:48] in Linux there is no such thing as a perfect solution [06:48] jalal: compiz can crash.... thats just a fact of life., the fusion-icon tool or other tools can auto-restart it if it crashes [06:48] it did nothing ..but i guess so problem came form that [06:48] before that syste working fine [06:49] in modern systems there are no perfect solutions* [06:49] jalal: thats not exactly proof its to blame. [06:49] I can't seem to find a working link for this https://svn.torproject.org/svn/torbrowser/trunk/build-scripts/config/polipo.conf is there anther working link with the tor config file for polipo? [06:49] yes i am installing compiz --icons [06:49] P-CHAN: both are fine, there is no best or the other would die out as nobody would use it [06:49] !info fusion-icon [06:49] fusion-icon (source: fusion-icon): tray icon to launch and manage Compiz Fusion. In component universe, is extra. Version 0.1.0-2ubuntu1 (oneiric), package size 29 kB, installed size 264 kB [06:49] actionparsnip alternate=install desktop ubuntu in text mode ? [06:49] sacarlson, if you install polipo from the repos it should work [06:50] z3r0d3rp: so it's default to be configured for tor? [06:50] I think so [06:50] I can copypasta mine for you [06:50] ActionParsnip: no. For example.... Unetbootin is better than USB Creator [06:50] mine works fine [06:50] who want to configure tor? [06:50] i can give help [06:50] P-CHAN: its as intelligent as asking which is better, blue or red. Neither is better. All you will get is opinion [06:50] i am using TOR WITH PROXYCHAINS [06:51] jalal: yes I want tor z3rod3rp ok pastebin your config so I can compare [06:51] *PEDOCHAINS [06:51] ActionParsnip: Blue [06:51] no wait green.... aaaaghhhh! ;monty python: [06:52] P-CHAN: unetbootin isn't better, neither is better. That's just your opinion and nothing more [06:52] you go to tor website and add key for that [06:52] no ActionParsnip, these are not objective [06:52] but first add you distro repos link in repositry [06:52] some are in fact better than others [06:52] ActionParsnip: what do you do doing for live? [06:52] you dont need to use polipo [06:52] just use vidalia [06:52] Esak: it installs the same ubuntu desktop, just in text mode [06:53] hello [06:53] how active is this channel usually? [06:53] alphanum: normally very active [06:53] alphanum: wait 5 minutes and you'll have to scroll up 3 pages :P [06:53] today - hyperactiv [06:53] P-CHAN: NOC engineer, how is that relevant to support? [06:53] ActionParsnip: yes... why? [06:53] 12.04 isn't really releasing today.. It's a trick! [06:54] ooh [06:54] z3r0d3rp: in chromium with switchy I point my proxy at polipo and also tried the vidalia proxy address both return error in switch diagnostic plugin not working properly [06:54] LeV91: and the cake is a lie. [06:54] Dr4g, thx [06:54] DarwinSurvivor, thx [06:54] alphanum: check in a few hours. This place going to get crazy [06:54] The cake has always been a lie [06:54] ActionParsnip, u been sniffin mah packets bro? [06:54] i recall seeing 3000+ people in here on release day [06:55] z3r0d3rp: who me....? Seriously though, no [06:55] lol I work in netsec [06:55] dr_willis: Speaking of the cake being a lie -- Valve is apparently talking about Steam / Source on Linux. This is a Good Thing. Shutting up about OT now. [06:55] all I've heard about for the last month is CISPA [06:56] Steam is and always has been horrible, both in concept and execution. [06:56] 12.04 soon :D [06:56] cdm10: i will belive it when i see it. same for the cake. [06:56] dr_willis: wanna join me in the Winchester til this all blows over? [06:56] I can access the polipo proxy direct from my chromium to bring up manuals and stuf if I plug 127.0.0.1:8123 into the address box of chromium so the polipo proxy is running [06:56] ActionParsnip: im at work.. and my battery is at 30% so i will be gone soon anyway ;) [06:57] sacarlson, tor runs on 9050 [06:57] ActionParsnip: You talk as if there were no better or worse. [06:57] so maybe my problem is in chromium switchy extention app? === serdar is now known as Guest30996 [06:57] dr_willis: there are images of l4d2 running in linux, so you can see it [06:57] ActionParsnip in the what? [06:57] So, while I'm here to procrastinate and to see if release-craziness has happened yet -- does anybody have trouble using Ubuntu with big many-AP networks, such as might be found at a university or workplace? [06:57] Hey guyz, is Quantal Quetzal out yet? :P [06:57] when officially released ubuntu 12.04 ? [06:57] ? [06:58] XDESIGN: within 24 hours [06:58] Hi fellows [06:58] NEVAR [06:58] ok [06:58] All colleges may switch over tonight? [06:58] LeV91: I couldn't care less about steam, I just want the games to end up in the repo :P [06:58] dr_willis: ha I'm off to bed soon ready for my next nightshift. Hopefully it'll be okay in 10 hours [06:58] Don't we usually have an "It's released whenever it's released" message in the topic? [06:58] I am new to Ubuntu 11.10. I would like to find the www-folder but cant find it. Any help please? [06:58] newUser: /var/www/ [06:59] does anyone know what time will 12.04 come out? I have to get it installed today [06:59] sebsebseb: not seen Shaun of the Dead? [06:59] cdm10: depends on the network. The eduroam network at BCIT can be a pain to connect to, but once connected it works beautifully [06:59] I'm simulating a system that runs Ub 10.04 on Simics and their process tracker will allow me to debug each simulated process individually. For the process-tracker to get a lock on however they need me to find the comm, pid offset, state offset etc.. http://www.cs.sfu.ca/~fedorova/Tech/simics-guides-3.0.26/simics-reference-manual-public-all/topic148.html [06:59] munim, not even the people releasing it know. [06:59] munim: It comes out whenever it comes out, they never release at a particular time. [06:59] munim: you can already install it, and then just update it later to the actual release version [06:59] wakeup and its not updated won't be as fun- will just have to work without checking install status [06:59] ActionParsnip I have, but quite a long time ago. [06:59] munim: But they should be pushing it to mirror sites now. Maybe. [06:59] Anyone know where to find these values? [06:59] cdm10, oh thats awesome. probably a few hours then [07:00] munim: I wouldn't hold your breath. [07:00] sebsebseb: it's the name of the pub [07:00] ActionParsnip oh [07:00] sometimes they notice a pixel off by one (on the comand line) and keep recompiling each time. [07:00] Perfick [07:00] supreeth, that sounds like a question for r/Linux [07:01] z3r0d3rp: I don't see anything listening on port 9050 but I tried it any way in switch with no change in failure [07:01] DarwinSurvivor: For me, it seems to have to do with the phase of the moon -- I'll try booting Ubuntu on a whim and it'll connect, but won't ever again. And if I want to use the WPA2-Enterprise network, which is necessary for most non-vanilla network services, well... I'm pretty much out of luck. If it connects at all, it drops within a few minutes. === mint is now known as c31r2g [07:01] Ben64, if its just today, i might as well wait [07:01] DarwinSurvivor: This has happened with both Broadcom and Intel NICs. Just lovely. It's all but forced me to use Windows as my main OS. [07:01] z3r0d3rp: Um, what's that? [07:01] sacarlson, you should just install tor from the repos [07:01] munim: or avoid all the trouble connecting to the servers at release time :) [07:02] it should come config'd [07:02] cdm10: try disabling n speed with modprobe options [07:02] cdm10: what type of network is it? [07:02] supreeth, that is a forum on Reddit [07:02] Ben64, the Indian mirrors don't get that crowded really [07:02] lots of Linux gurus there [07:02] cdm10: is it a centrino wifi chi [07:02] Chip [07:02] z3r0d3rp: tor for one this isn't in the repo's of Lubuntu but I assume I installed it correctly from the deb files I got [07:02] Lets sing the Free Software song! [07:03] DarwinSurvivor: 802.11n, WPA2-Enterprise, about 5 zillion APs (Seriously, according to the Intel tool, my computer sees 30+ right now.) [07:03] ActionParsnip: It's a 4965AGN [07:03] sacarlson, hmm I thought tor was in the repos [07:03] did you look for "vidalia" [07:03] !info tor [07:03] tor (source: tor): anonymizing overlay network for TCP. In component universe, is optional. Version 0.2.1.30-1build2 (oneiric), package size 1064 kB, installed size 2216 kB [07:03] ActionParsnip: It's probably best I don't try to troubleshoot this now, given that I'm not actually on Ubuntu... if I were, I wouldn't be able to get to this chatroom :) [07:03] cdm10: try disabling n speed, may give a stable connection [07:04] cdm10: you can always try wicd, i've had luck with that in the past for "non-standard" networks [07:04] cdm10: just make sure you have a wired connection first, installing wicd on ubuntu removes network-manager :( [07:04] ActionParsnip: I'll try that, though I sure as heck won't be happy about connecting to my university's obscenely fast network with slow wireless :-/ [07:04] cdm10: at 54mbps you'll be fine [07:04] DarwinSurvivor: As a result of Research, my school has found out that something like 3% of students actually used the wired. They disconnected all our ports. [07:04] z3r0d3rp: I see that Reddit is some form of link ranking (from Wiki). I wasn't just posting a link; in case you missed my second line, I'm looking for those offset values for the Ubuntu 10.04 with kernel 2.6.32-33-generic. [07:05] cdm10: OUCH. if they have a physical IT help center, they might have a wired connection there [07:05] ActionParsnip: But how will I download the latest Ubuntu image in approximately a minute??! It will be a sad, sad existence. [07:05] cdm10: or you could get someone with a laptop to make a bridge for you [07:05] would I be able to get write privalages on a seperate hard drive by edeiting the fstab file [07:06] DarwinSurvivor: As it happens, one of my friends had to do that in order to use Lion Internet Recovery on his Mac, and they were helpful (He basically said techie stuff and convinced them he was techie-qualified.) I'm even better off, I work for a division of our IT, just not the part concerned with the network. [07:07] cdm10: just grab the daily now, then upgrade into the stable. [07:07] supreeth, if you don't know what reddit is... I highly doubt you will find the information you are looking for [07:07] ActionParsnip: I was mostly joking :) [07:07] srsly that's just ridiculous [07:08] z3r0d3rp: nope I see no tor package in synaptic in ubuntu 10.04 or Lubuntu 10.04 [07:08] z3r0d3rp: Ha, well I'll have to take my chances then! [07:08] ActionParsnip: go se [07:08] that's your problem right there [07:08] DarwinSurvivor: The fun bit is that no ethernet means no wired phone lines (We've gone VoIP), and my dorm in the basement doesn't get much cell service. I would have actually wanted a landline... [07:09] cdm10: if you run: sudo lshw -C network you will see the driver module driving the device and you can then see how to disable n speed using websearches [07:09] cdm10: ouch, voip over wifi? [07:09] z3r0d3rp: In Lubuntu I installed the tor package deb direct for the tor group [07:09] P-CHAN: you lost me [07:09] hi guys [07:09] I'm looking into ec2 using ubuntu [07:10] ActionParsnip: :( [07:10] DarwinSurvivor: No, voip over wired, though presumably there are some wireless voip phones somewhere because there's a voice network. From what I've heard from my boss, replacing the analog PBX with IP-PBX went from a room of switching equipment to like 3 racks for the whole campus. [07:10] >=D [07:10] P-CHAN: 'go se' isn't a sentence [07:11] sacarlson, try running vidalia [07:11] that should start your relay [07:11] z3r0d3rp: yes it comes up fine in vidalia [07:11] then you want to use either torbutton in firefox [07:11] ActionParsnip: I'll try disabling N, sounds like a reasonable if regrettable workaround. But, curious, why do you think that might work? [07:11] Hi, is there an app that would let me zoom in on my screen? I used to have one called Zoom in/out but I can't find a package anymore. It simply changed the resolution to something lower, so that my fat fingers could use the touchscreen [07:11] or socks 5 on 9050 or 9051 in foxy proxy/manual [07:12] open vidalia and click on the advanced tab [07:12] this should show you where you are listening [07:12] cdm10: it's worked in the past. Some chips have issues with it. [07:12] mine happens to be on 9051 [07:12] usually it is 9050 [07:13] isnt ubuntu 12.04 or 10 whatever supposed to be out right now? === louis_ is now known as Tianhong-wang [07:13] or is the beta still on? [07:13] !outyet | vexaxv [07:13] vexaxv: Nope! Ubuntu 12.04 is scheduled for release sometime on April 26th. You can party in #ubuntu-release-party while you're waiting! [07:14] cdm10: or use the lshw output to find guides which may allow you to keep n with other options [07:14] quit [07:14] I'm thinking of buying a new workstation for mainly using with ubuntu. Can anybody advice me a motherboard and cpu? [07:14] join #ubuntu-release-party [07:14] right? [07:14] Question: Does 32-bit/64-bit really matter? I have 2 gigs of RAM and the 4 gig limit seems to be the only reason to go 64-bit so far. [07:14] when ubuntu going to be released?(I know today, I mean time) [07:14] Or is it just a personal preference for the most part? [07:14] vexaxv: read the motd. Massive clue there, clear as day [07:15] !motd [07:15] supreeth, I told you where to find your answers [07:15] Woops. How do I get the motd on here? [07:15] yuri__: With 12.04, coming out today, 64-bit should have far fewer issues running older 32-bit software. As far as I'm aware, there's no reason to use 32-bit any more. [07:15] but since your web research skills are border line retarded [07:15] I have no faith that you will find them [07:15] yuri__: do you intend to do audio and video encoding? [07:16] No encoding. Just programming. Once I remember how. ;) Almost 16 years away from C++ might take me a week or two to remember it all. ;) [07:16] whats the join command i forgot [07:16] vexaxv: then how'd you get here? :P /join [07:17] vexaxv: or /j for short [07:17] yuri__: i'd go 32bit unless 64bit benefits compilation [07:17] That's my thing. I can't see a reason for 64bit. Yeah, my CPU is 64bit, but I have had more troubles with it even in Win7 64 than I don't know what. :) === lupinedk is now known as Lupinedk [07:18] yuri__: I'm just curious, what issues have you had with 64bit stuff? [07:18] people who use 32 bit systems on 64 bit processors should be kicked in the balls [07:18] yuri__: id go 32bit if it were me [07:18] z3r0d3rp: ouch.. well i do that to test ia32 bit compatiblity [07:18] And in regards to programming, most of my code is 32-bit. As for issues, well, everything from general instabilities in windows to memory leaks in ubuntu. I compile the kernel and my system slows to a screeching halt for ever. I have to reboot to get it back into shape. [07:19] If my code isn't 32-bit, it's 16-bit. I have a friend who still runs a 486 with win 95. ;) [07:19] is today the 12.04 final release? [07:19] I think I just found out that the proxy switchy doesn't work in the Lubuntu version of chromium. but there must be a method? [07:19] ukbeast: yes [07:19] protip: 32 bit architecture is obsolete [07:20] yuri__: i hope its a DX ;-) [07:20] z3r0d3rp: but there is few programs running in 64 bits [07:20] Yeah. 486/100DX. [07:20] * ukbeast waits excitedly for iso [07:20] Nice [07:20] ukbeast: Me too because I am on 10.04 [07:20] in 5 years 32 bit everything will be gone [07:21] z3r0d3rp: 5 years != obsolete [07:21] It's funny. I was playing with my thumb drive and assembler the other day and even after 16 years away from coding, I can still remember how to make a bootsector and rudimentary kernel from scratch. ;) [07:21] stop ethical discussion [07:22] stio the ethics or hipocrisie [07:22] P-CHAN: I'm using 12.04 Beta 2 and it runs great and it only had 2 program crashes which now are gone [07:22] z3r0d3rp: Intel was making 386's until '07 [07:22] ukbeast: good [07:22] apparently some people still use them [07:22] lol === Tiktalik is now known as Tik|Gone [07:22] Intel 945 is OLD :'( [07:23] ukbeast: I am downloading Apodio linux but [07:23] I ran on an old 386 until '96. Then I got a 486 and a Pii Pro dual processor back in 98. Then a P4 in 2000 and last year a AMD Phenom II triple core. ;) [07:23] this is outdated to run in my usb stick [07:23] there is no real reason to install a 32 bit system on a 64 bit machine unless you absolutely cannot find hardware drivers [07:23] it's a detriment to progress [07:24] z3r0d3rp: I linux word 64 bit in very unstable [07:24] All my hardware, 'cept for the mobo and cpu, are 32-bit software still. [07:24] 1st time unity came around was the ubuntu netbook remix [07:24] Canonical recommends 32 bits [07:24] I have run 64 bit Linux systems for 4 years and no issues [07:24] not one [07:24] <--64bits [07:24] z3r0d3rp: you are lying [07:24] no I am not [07:24] z3r0d3rp: or you want zsnes packaged and have limited space and are not confident with compilation [07:25] JAVA 64 Bits crashes every time [07:25] Compiling other people's stuff is easier than writing my own. [07:25] ditto, 64 bit ubuntu on 3 machines for years now [07:25] P-CHAN, sounds like you have bad hardware [07:25] or fail at Linux [07:25] I've never had an issue [07:25] How dare adobe remove hardware acceleration from flash 11, I still use 10,2 [07:25] lol..my sun java is fine [07:25] P-CHAN I have 64 and not crashes for java [07:25] z3r0d3rp: why WINDOWS works fine in all machines? [07:26] ukbeast, they removed it? [07:26] and linux not? [07:26] P-CHAN: I certainly don't agree with z3r0d3rp and his bad manners, but I also want to mention that I haven't had any issues with 64-bit since I got a 64-bit machine. [07:26] because you are installing the wrong distros [07:26] z3r0d3rp: my lappy is a dual core 32bit, runs fine. Not had an issue with 64bit either tbh [07:26] or your video card is shit [07:26] or some other such thing [07:26] Heh. Want a heck of an LOL?! Win7 will install on a 486/100DX, takes a day thought just to install and like half-an-hour to boot. ;) [07:26] z3r0d3rp: Why canonical recommends 32 bits in download page? [07:27] windows 4 noob [07:27] canonical is owner of ubuntu. [07:27] P-CHAN: simple [07:27] 10.2 I get solid 25 fp/s on youtube, 11 it's half that [07:27] Prolly so they don' have someone like me starting debates about 32-bit/64-bit. ;) [07:27] because canonical knows that lots of people with old machines don't know what architecture they have [07:27] and 32 bit will work on any === chalced is now known as chalcedony [07:27] durrrr [07:27] Hi, Someone now the hour for the release? [07:27] For now. Rumor has it that AMD is realing a 128-bit processor next year which won't run 32-bit anymore. [07:28] *releasing. [07:28] Unity has really came a LONG way [07:28] does unity interferewith compiz? I change things in compiz and nothing happens [07:28] unity uses compiz [07:28] Compiz hates gnome and unity unless you do some hack work [07:28] but not in 2d mode [07:28] P-CHAN: 32bit will run on BOTH 64bit and 32bit. The target audience of Ubuntu is the average user. So if they are not sure, they can use the recommended and it will work [07:29] ^ [07:29] my husband has a new brother printer it can't find the file brlpdwrappermfcj6710dw on ubuntu 10.10 [07:29] Turboprint works wonders. [07:29] yuri__, how much RAM can you stick in a 486DX :o\ [07:29] Mine only took 512MB. [07:29] chalcedony: maverick is eol [07:29] "only" [07:29] turboprint? [07:29] I've seen a few 486s that take 1 gig. [07:29] ukbeast: z3r0d3rp so what does that mean for me? I'm using unity 2D [07:30] But they were usually server machines. [07:30] well that should be enough to boot win7 [07:30] lol [07:30] bagels compiz won't work in unity 2d [07:30] ActionParsnip, sigh, we will upgrade him soon [07:30] Use Xcfe or another session [07:30] chalcedony: brother make 32bit Linux drivers. Try there === lester_ is now known as djkimion007 [07:30] people run unity in 2d? who knew? [07:30] z3r0d3rp: what does it work with then, I want to zoom and do alt+tab [07:30] ActionParsnip, oh - will it work on 64bit? [07:31] sorry bagels no can do [07:31] As far as printers, I have a Canon Pixma 250P, I hate the thing. I had to buy turboprint in order to get the ink level under linux. [07:31] z3r0d3rp: i do, i hate compiz [07:31] Couldn't get the drivers for it to work under wine. :( [07:31] yuri__, ouch sorry [07:31] Wine does not run drivers [07:31] z3r0d3rp: what, can't use compiz at all in ubuntu? is that what you're saying? I doubt that very much, sir :( [07:31] chalcedony: could force the arch I guess [07:31] ActionParsnip, debian. [07:31] Yeah, found that out the hard way, ukbeast. ;) [07:32] ActionParsnip, um how? [07:32] Because It does not go near the kernal files [07:32] it's not released yet? [07:32] bagels 2d = no effects [07:32] chalcedony: what of Debian? [07:32] z3r0d3rp: so if I switch to unity 3D can I have effects? I can log out and change my interface [07:32] 3d even works on my old p4 box from 2004 [07:33] oh you said you don't like compiz, not unity [07:33] Bagels: 2D = no dumb compiz glitches [07:33] you have to install gpu drivers [07:33] *sigh* It is taking sooooo long to tar and compress my home directory. It's only 18gb. :( [07:33] otherwise you are stuck [07:33] yuri__: compress using gzip or something else? [07:33] unity 2d is meant to support ancient hardware [07:33] chalcedony: check man dpkg [07:34] z3r0d3rp: no reason for desktop 3d [07:34] eyecandy sux [07:34] z3r0d3rp: ubuntu doesn't support ancient hardware [07:34] Unity 3d has a weakness, under Driconf, enable Enable_stub ARB [07:34] z3r0d3rp: not strictly [07:34] sure it does [07:34] I prefer Kde [07:34] 10.04 will run on anything practically [07:34] z3r0d3rp: certainly it does not [07:34] z3r0d3rp: I have hardware from not that long ago which runs Compiz very slowly. You're simply wrong about this -- some older but not ANCIENT systems DO work better without compiz. [07:34] ActionParsnip, ty [07:34] ActionParsnip: z3r0d3rp So even if I log in with Unity 3D I still have to do some fiddling to get things like alt+tab working again? [07:34] z3r0d3rp: no you can't run it on hardware that's ancient [07:34] I didn't say work well [07:34] I haven't tried unity yet. Tried just about all flavors of linux back in the 90s, though. ;) [07:34] Would you say Intel 945GME is ancient? [07:35] z3r0d3rp: yes i know, it will not work at all on ancient hardware [07:35] I said 2d is meant for ancient [07:35] z3r0d3rp: simply because linux dropped support for 386 machines [07:35] z3r0d3rp: even if I had the most graphically powerful PC I STILL wound use 2D [07:35] intel945 isnt ancient [07:35] z3r0d3rp: and there's some old machines which can't have more than 32 or 64 mb memory [07:35] Would* [07:35] KDE 4 runs fine [07:35] I define anything older that a pentium 3 ancient [07:35] KDE?, Boo! [07:36] so not that ancient [07:36] no [07:36] OK [07:36] but I also consider a pentium 3 ancient [07:36] ukbeast: boo? Mark Shuttlerwork uses KDE [07:36] Linus Torvalds prefer KDE [07:36] z3r0d3rp: you can run Lubuntu well on a P2 [07:36] P-CHAN not anymore he came back on that [07:36] It just looks over complicated [07:37] Lubuntu is as resource intensive as unity [07:37] P-CHAN: yeah, well the Linux standard base species RPM, not DEB.... [07:37] ActionParsnip: ??????? [07:37] Debian, I <3 [07:38] RPM is standard because of Red Hat? [07:38] lol no === sorin is now known as Guest82801 [07:38] YEah. [07:38] z3r0d3rp: its really not. I have P2 systems and Unit [07:38] likely more installs using .deb [07:38] RPM +DEB [07:38] z3r0d3rp: kills it dead [07:38] RDM [07:38] RH has been around since 1990. It went proprietary-ish back in 99, I believe. [07:39] Alien works a treat for those non .Deb files [07:39] I remember my first experience with Debian. Scared me. Lost my RH disc and couldn't download RH no more. Even tried FreeBSD, that lasted all fo one day. Couldn't even get my mouse to work. ;) [07:39] I dislike red hat based distros [07:39] Linux haves very very interfaces but few programs [07:39] or gimp or krita for example [07:40] OpenShot :) kicks windows movie makers BUTT [07:40] *hides at the mention of the W word* How dare you cuss in public like that, ukbeast. ;) [07:40] every time I go back to test the latest Fedora... I last about a day and then remember why I hate it [07:40] ukbeast: Torrents >>>>>>> OpenShot [07:40] Keygen, crack uhul [07:40] Wouldn't that be topics for -offtopic? [07:40] Old redhat was awesome. Before it went proprietary and Fedora I agree is a scary experience. [07:41] getting error mknod: missing operand after `10' [07:41] when executing # mknod /dev/kvm c 10 `grep '\' /proc/misc | cut -f 1 -d\ ` [07:41] Also Blender, I wish I have a proper tower for that, *Is on SAMSUNG N130 [07:42] saju: what arey ou doing ? [07:42] * ActionParsnip misses Mandrake 7. Great days [07:42] the real problem is that once you get spoiled by the way Ubuntu handles permission and by apt - going back makes you feel like someone just made your life difficult for no reason [07:42] it makes sense in a corporate environment I suppose [07:42] so lost on how to get a downloaded theme to worl? [07:42] but no being able to change printers without root is dumb [07:42] i want to create /dev/kvm [07:42] I had a Fedora server for a year. Hated everyday. It kept breaking constantly. [07:42] # sdb1 backup drive [07:42] UUID=5bcedfb4-6c9c-4da6-9bf0-ce2a3a7e4a37 /media/backup ext4 defaults 0 1 does this look about right to add to fstab so that I can make another hard drive writable [07:43] saju: you don't need to mknod anymore, /dev is taken care by udev now [07:43] I always run Debian for servers, but I always have [07:43] saju: i'd ask in #bash too. [07:43] old habits I suppose [07:43] i got that command from http://forum.soft32.com/linux/open-dev-kvm-file-directory-ftopict337826.html [07:43] saju: why do you want to create that ? [07:43] yuri__: who cares. Ubuntu haves better support in google [07:43] Mint oin first [07:43] !offtopic [07:43] #ubuntu is the Ubuntu support channel, for all Ubuntu-related support questions. Please use #ubuntu-offtopic for other topics (though our !guidelines apply there too). Thanks! [07:43] saju: what are you trying to do and why ? [07:43] guys, can we stop with the tedious distro memories please. [07:44] And I was having such fun while waiting for my hard drive to backup. I hate IDE. ;) [07:44] Aye [07:44] getting error when strating VM [07:44] /dev/kvm: No such file or directory\nCould not initialize KVM, [07:44] I never touched system files before (Back on Win****) I have a great confidence in tinkering with modprobe to blacklist a wlan driver which was buggy on 11.10 [07:44] saju: right, what version of ubuntu are you using ? [07:44] saju: then you don't have kvm support in your kernel [07:45] pega na minha benga cambada de feladaputa [07:45] P-CHAN: stop [07:45] ikonia: ok [07:45] !pt | P-CHAN [07:45] P-CHAN: Por favor, use #ubuntu-br para ajuda em português. Para entrar no canal por favor faça "/join #ubuntu-br" sem as aspas. Para a comunidade local portuguêsa, use #ubuntu-pt. Obrigado. [07:45] the wireless mouse keeps freezing on my laptop when running on battery only [07:45] yes [07:45] how do i use the linux2.6 personliaty? [07:45] i only see linux32 linux64 [07:45] how do I set up forked-daapd properly? I can see the tracks, but when I try to play there´s no sound in Banshee nor in Rhythmbox... [07:46] saju: is the kvm module loaded ? [07:46] Banshee? Clementine is the ticket mate ;) [07:46] Guest82801, I'm guessing that your usb ports are being powered down [07:46] probably ACPI issue [07:46] check in bios [07:46] CANONICAL must support MATE with GTK3 [07:46] ukbeast: you mean I install Clementine & then I should be able to listen to my music?? [07:46] P-CHAN: STOP, now [07:46] ya [07:47] z3r0d3rp, in bios? shouldn't this be in the OS? [07:47] lsmod | grep kvm [07:47] kvm 305988 0 [07:47] ikonia: why now? [07:47] Also is ubuntu-restricted installed? [07:47] it gives you all the codecs you need [07:47] P-CHAN: do you need support yes/no ? [07:48] when will 12.4 be release? [07:48] saju: right, so udev should create that kvm node, you shouldn't have to manually create that [07:48] yes, it is. In fact, it had mt-daapd working already. But after switching to forked-daapd I ran into problems... [07:48] ikonia: yes man... My nokia 6111 hang on ubuntu [07:48] saju: the most common cause for it not getting created is your CPU does't properly support virtualisation [07:48] P-CHAN: what do you mean your phone hangs on ubuntu ? [07:48] Has anyone been region restricted when watching a dvd? Not happen to me I'm curios does it happen on ubuntu [07:49] Guest0498, the settings for you your computer handles ACPI are in hardware... often times there are options such as powering down peripherals to save power [07:49] You know, I never thought to play my doctor who dvd under linux. I thought the region stuff was firmware based in the dvd-drive itself. [07:50] ikonia: WHen I use Nokia as modem with chrome, chromium or srware iron and closes ubuntu stops or when the SCREEN turn off [07:50] [it only happen in uncle ubuntu [07:50] does anybody have a rough idea when the final images will be available for download? [07:50] I had one scrambled trailer on my anime DVD, *tries to remember name [07:50] sometimes laptops and netbooks that are shipped with Windows OEM have drivers to help out with these type of things... in linux it might not send the proper signal to wake them [07:50] Hi [07:51] what is the exact time 12.04 will be released to public ? [07:51] so you might be able to turn off ACPI control of your peripheral in BIOS [07:51] that would probably fix it [07:51] P-CHAN: I'm sorry, I don't understand what you are saying, chrome is a web browser, it has no relevence to a modem [07:51] ukbeast: donesn't matter about the name [07:51] ikonia: no are you sure? [07:51] kaushal: no-one knows, [07:51] P-CHAN: positive [07:52] ikonia: Why it occurs only with my cell phone? [07:52] are there any issues upgrading distros... not a complete reinstall? [07:52] P-CHAN: I don't know what you're actually asking [07:52] iconia he is saying that he tethers to his phone and it crashes [07:52] schultza: upgrades are fully supported [07:52] ikonia, [07:52] thanks, ikonia [07:52] anyone get stuntrally working? [07:53] ikonia: SOMETIMes i use nokia 6111 in ubuntu as modem === enchilad1 is now known as enchilado [07:53] ¬¬ [07:53] z3r0d3rp: thank you [07:53] should i wait to upgrade lts to lts or can i go closer right now? [07:53] schultza: you can do both - so at the end its your decision [07:53] Ah. I meant to ask that a little while ago. Can we go from final beta to lts or does it have to be lts to lts? [07:53] I installed it off playdeb and crashes after loading before race [07:54] which would be better? safer? (trying not to reinstall and loose data) [07:54] anyone available ? how can i set a plugin in xchat permanently ? [07:54] ukbeast: contact playdeb then [07:54] ukbeast: it's their package [07:54] I'm upgrading in update manager [07:55] ukbeast google is your friend... it's likely that someone else is probably having the same issue [07:55] ukbeast: just contact playdeb, they build those packages, they support them, the same as this channel supports ubuntu's packages [07:56] OK thanks [07:56] i think ubuntu should have rolling release codebase imho [07:56] schultza: well it's not so thanks for that comment [07:57] problem with rolling releases is that they force people to update to potentially less stable packages [07:57] some people hate change [07:57] etc [07:57] well, it's not a rolling release so no need for discussion [07:57] ouch... sorry for putting fuel in the fire [07:59] Don't go nuts for this comment, Which is a good recommended AV? [07:59] for Windows? [07:59] don't need one for Ubuntu [08:00] They are possibilities, it's not 100% protected [08:00] If you are not careful [08:00] If you still insist there is ClamAV, but might be more useful to scan your windows partitions than anything lol. [08:00] hy [08:01] I work in netsec... and I can tell you with certainty that AV does not benefit linux [08:01] Are there any DVD design programs for Linux similar to Sony DVD Architect? I tried DVD Styler, but it keeps freezing half way through the render process. [08:01] if you are going to get hacked it will be by weak service exploit [08:01] who help me [08:01] or rogue trojan that you willfully installed [08:01] i have a problem with ubuntu [08:02] I saw that Mac got hit with trojan [08:02] !details | Dragos29 [08:02] Dragos29: Please give us full details. For example: "I have a problem with ..., I'm running Ubuntu version .... When I try to do ..., I get the following output: ..., but I expected it to do ..." [08:02] Is it unix based? [08:02] ukbeast, that was a hole in Java [08:02] ukbeast: yes and offtopic here [08:02] AH I see [08:02] i installed ubuntu 11.10 [08:03] and i clicked on restart [08:03] ubuntu have any dvd version?with most app for install like open suse dvd? [08:03] Roj: yes [08:03] cant waittttttt for ubuntu 12.04 [08:03] Occur when loading ubuntu I do not get to write user and password [08:03] !download | Roj [08:03] Roj: Ubuntu installation CDs can be downloaded from http://releases.ubuntu.com - Mirrors can be found at http://wiki.ubuntu.com/Mirrors - PLEASE use the !torrents to download !Oneiric, and help keeping the servers' load low! [08:04] GRRR! I want 1204. [08:04] yuri__: then get it [08:04] *stopping save kernel messages [08:05] *starting bluetooth [08:05] !enter Dragos29 [08:05] Dragos29: no GUI comes up? just the boot-messages? [08:05] yuri__, i do too official though not beta [08:05] !enter | Dragos29 [08:05] Dragos29: Please try to keep your questions/responses on one line. Don't use the "Enter" key as punctuation! [08:05] Hi guys. I recently tried upgrading my ubuntu server, and it went fine with the first upgrade. And the next one didn't reboot, so I forced the machine off, and back on. Now I'm stuck at grub. How do I get into the system now? [08:05] i need dvd version it is cd version :-) [08:05] Multiply: grub is offering you different kernel-version to boot? === mark_687 is now known as Mark_Snel [08:06] That's my question though, is this like win where you can not go from beta to final or can I do that? Beta to final. Upgrading. [08:06] Roj: look at the links there is the dvd also [08:06] iceroot_: It's more like cmdline only [08:06] Roj: imo on "alternate download locations" [08:06] yuri__, official will be out today just wait lol [08:06] @Roj : May I pm you ? [08:06] Multiply: some text about "busybox"? [08:06] yuri__: yes you can update from beta to final [08:06] he's dropped into grub rescue [08:06] !final | yuri__ [08:06] yuri__: If you install a development version of Ubuntu Precise and keep up with package updates, then you will be upgraded to the official release of 12.04 when it comes out. To make sure, type « sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get dist-upgrade » in a terminal. Discussion and support in #ubuntu+1. [08:07] iceroot_: All it says is Minimal BASH-like line editing is supported. And then GRUB version 1.98-1ubuntu13 [08:07] How can I backup my GPG/SSH data so I can use it still once I make a fresh install of Ubuntu 12.04? [08:07] yeah it can't find your kernel [08:07] I'm only anxious because my system is running in RAM only right now. I went to switch for MAWK to GAWK and lost a lot of core files for ubuntu. :( [08:07] I know, it makes no sense to me either. [08:08] yuri__: i asked you about some output still no response so we can not solve your issue === shadow is now known as Guest10398 [08:08] lol yuri__ at least you have a reason for a full new install [08:08] I am going to stick with 11.10 until the initial bugs are worked out [08:08] I gave output. Must have gotten lost in all the chatter. [08:08] Lemme grab it again real quick. [08:08] yuri__: fine, any output of "dpkg -l | grep -v ^ii | grep -v ^rc"? [08:09] iF install-info 4.13a.dfsg.1-8ubuntu1 Manage installed documentation in info format [08:09] test [08:09] hello [08:09] iceroot_: I've tried a few tips from google, but I can't seem to get my root right. I know (hd0,1) and (lb1-root) have content. [08:09] What news about the LTS version ? [08:09] iceroot_: Where it seems (lb1-root) is having most of my files. [08:10] yuri__: that is the only output? [08:10] Yeah. [08:10] Besides the key above that eplaining about the captial text and errors. [08:10] *explaining. [08:11] when will ubuntu 12.04 be released [08:11] lol [08:11] multiply can you boot into a live dist to see what's actually where? [08:12] because the fastest way might be to chroot into your box and reinstall grub [08:12] How can I backup my GPG/SSH data so I can use it still once I make a fresh install of Ubuntu 12.04? [08:12] z3r0d3rp: It's a virtual machine, and I can't seem to get it to boot from any of my iso files. [08:12] if that doesn't work you might need to fix other things via chroot [08:12] <_r00t_> Happy Ubuntu Day [08:12] yuri__: "sudo dpkg --configure -a" [08:13] multiply if it's vmware you can boot a live dist and mount the image as a drive [08:13] is it out yet? [08:13] will 12.04 be released later today? [08:13] I'm not sure if you can do that in virtualbox [08:13] dArKd3ViL: no, or it would be on the web page, think it through [08:13] z3r0d3rp: It is. Can I do that from the webinterface? [08:13] exit status 127. [08:13] not sure [08:14] you might have to do it in vmware workstation [08:14] @OPS - i suggest placing some note about release moment of Pangolin :) users' flood is coming ;] [08:14] i am just playing with irc bots here, if there are any :P [08:14] and use a network connection to mount the drive [08:14] dArKd3ViL: well don't [08:14] hi [08:14] z3r0d3rp: It's a vSphere instance I assume [08:15] Is there no way, I can solve it from the bash-line to just get in? [08:15] hmm I haven't actually had to do what you are doing [08:15] And then run the grub installer [08:15] you don't have a bash prompt [08:15] I do. [08:15] that is a grub rescue prompt [08:15] you have bash? [08:15] Well, grub's simple one [08:15] My bash disappeared along with the rest of my core files. [08:15] well the problem is that it's not finding your kernel image [08:15] so either it's not there [08:15] which is probably the problem [08:15] I think I'm setting the root wrong. [08:15] or the cfg is wrong [08:16] How can I attach a script to my Unity bar? [08:16] when will be ubuntu 12.04 relased? [08:16] All my kernel stuff is still in my boot directory. [08:16] xuserx: at some point during the day [08:16] yuri__: your kernel should be in /boot [08:16] z3r0d3rp: Can I change the config from here? [08:16] today? [08:16] :-D [08:16] ikonia: All of it is. the initrd, the config and the vmlinuz. [08:17] yuri__: correct, that's where it should be [08:17] I dunno Multiply unless you can figure out a way to mount the drive in vmware and access it from another vm I don't know how to help [08:17] perhaps someone else is better with a rescue prompt [08:17] who is from romania?? [08:18] im from romania [08:18] I have a script I can run by double-clicking, but how can I make it so I can just run it from my Unity bar? [08:18] z3r0d3rp: It's okay. :) Well, I get it to sorta boot. It says it tries to mount /dev/ to /root/dev but fails. I don't know if that's a good or bad thing tho [08:18] I know that it's possible in vmware workstation but I am not sure of the specifics [08:18] poti sa ma ajuti? [08:18] It should be possible, but it didn't seem to work earlier. [08:19] Anyone else familiar with grubs resque prompt? [08:19] what version did you update? [08:20] From 10.4 I assume, and up. [08:20] First update went fine, tho. [08:20] hi need help in configuering my network in a ubuntu server.... i have two network cards the first is configured via the install process in works fine.... now i try to configure my second [08:20] but it does not work === Magix is now known as xBytez === AJC_Z0 is now known as AJ_Z0 [08:21] can i paste my /etc/network/interfaces === _Masduqe|Off is now known as Masduqe|Off === JermB0b is now known as JermBob [08:21] Well, I'm going to assume that my system is a lost cause and take off for the night. Hopefully later today I can get 1204 LTS and in the meantime I will hope the power doesn't go out here. ;) Night. [08:21] yeah I gotta call it a night [08:21] Hello :-) Is there any informations when can I expect new ubuntu 12.04 in download? [08:22] nicon`: no [08:22] !outyet [08:22] Nope! Ubuntu 12.04 is scheduled for release sometime on April 26th. You can party in #ubuntu-release-party while you're waiting! === ivan``_ is now known as ivan`` [08:22] good luck Multiply, if you have vmware workstation installed look up the procedure for mounting a network drive [08:22] really? today!? [08:22] first create a new vm locally, then mount the network image [08:23] then chroot and troubleshoot from there [08:23] * z3r0d3rp winks, this is why you always make backups right? [08:23] gnight [08:24] z3r0d3rp: Thanks. === louis_ is now known as Tianhong-wang [08:27] hallo all .. is there a new i915 driver? [08:28] I think the old one is minting my laptop badly [08:28] it's so so hot [08:29] am I going to be kicked from channel is ask "when?" [08:29] vak123: no, but the answer is "no set time" [08:29] ikonia: you've got some serious complexes :-) [08:29] ikonia: oah... [08:29] Maybe somebody should mention !outyet in /topic [08:29] SunTsu: no-one reads the topic, [08:30] ikonia: i do! === krups_v2 is now known as krups [08:30] vak123: clearly you do'nt as it says "12.04 questions in the ubuntu+1 channel, not here" [08:30] nicon`: Ikonia doesn't have complexes he's one of the backbones of Ubuntu support over the years that I use ubuntu [08:30] ikonia: then we're not off worse if it's mentioned there ;) [08:31] paulus68: as I use Ubuntu over the years I didn't need support, so I don't care, sorry :-) [08:31] (so I don't care who he is)* [08:31] backtrack is where its at [08:31] no we dont... we just want to talk to all these fine ppl here and ask all kinds of questions.... im kidding/playing [08:32] ikonia: this is true, but this channel should know when it "dies" better :) [08:32] n1gz: that's offtopic here, so please keep to Ubuntu support [08:32] nicon`: you were told that you're being rude. There are two ways to react to that: apologize or keep on being rude. You chose to do the latter and now complain about the consequences in a different channel you were told to discuss it. Well... [08:32] SunTsu: let it go please, it's pointless. [08:32] :-) [08:32] nicon`: if you don't need support why are you here then ? [08:32] paulus68: to ask about release? :-) [08:33] Because it's kinda important for me can I except it in one hour, or ten hours? :-) [08:33] nicon`: great, you've got your answer, so problem solved. [08:33] !12.04 [08:33] Ubuntu 12.04 LTS (Precise Pangolin) is the 16th release of Ubuntu and is in Beta testing from 2nd March, Discussion and support until final release in #ubuntu+1 [08:33] nicon`: no need to ask about the release as akonia mentioned previously it will come out sometime today [08:33] paulus68: he's got the answer, so it's all sorted, lets not drag it on [08:33] nicon`: 26/04/2012 [08:33] ... [08:33] ikonia: got you [08:33] paulus68: thank you [08:34] paulus68: did you read what I wrote? I know it's today, thanks for informations. [08:34] 12:04 today, I hope :D [08:34] dataviruset: the question is: which time zone ;-) [08:34] there is no question as there is no set time [08:35] nicon`: Ah, yes :D === matias is now known as Guest305 [08:36] ubuntu is released when everything is verified to be working, There is no set time [08:37] I did sudo add-apt-repository ppa:cooperjona/nitrotasks && sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get install nitrotasks [08:38] go to www.ubuntu.com and keep pressing f5!!!! [08:38] <_r00t_> Last day to support 11.10 ! No more palming off questions to #ubuntu+1 :) [08:38] but when i do apt-get update i get: W: Ophalen van http://ppa.launchpad.net/cooperjona/nitrotasks/ubuntu/dists/natty/main/source/Sources is mislukt 404 Not Found W: Ophalen van http://ppa.launchpad.net/cooperjona/nitrotasks/ubuntu/dists/natty/main/binary-i386/Packages is mislukt 404 Not Found E: Some index files failed to download. They have been ignored, or old ones used instead. [08:38] insted of ubuntu.com try http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/releases/12.04/ [08:39] I'm stuck at grub bash-like line editing prompt.. I'm on a virtual server, and I think I got it to include my iso as a CD. How do I boot on the CD? [08:39] aditya: no, do NOT post that [08:40] When 12.04 will be available to download? [08:41] I want to ask the same question [08:41] It's already 14:04 here. :-P [08:41] it is 20:41 here [08:41] Tanvir, after it get uploaded! [08:41] 10:41 here :) [08:41] 14:11 here [08:41] I know it's still 22:41 of 25th in Tahiti. LOL [08:41] But we are not counting on Tahiti I think.. :-P [08:42] 20:41 in New Zealand :-P === Jacky is now known as JackyAlcine [08:42] I am from Qatar and the time is 11:42:21 [08:42] I am from somewhere that can use www.timeanddate.com [08:42] Pengw, you are about to say goodbye to 26th! o.O [08:42] hehe new zealanders likely to have to wait until tomorrow? [08:42] wow, it's only 10:45 here [08:42] where do i get a torrent to download it? [08:43] yes [08:43] let us readjust the cushion and sit back [08:43] anyone? [08:43] so they count on which time ??? [08:43] U S time I think...they are sleeping there? [08:44] its like 04:43 in the US [08:44] Mathews, whatever.. geeks don't sleep much. :-P [08:44] look - there is no set time, it doesn't matter what time it is for you - there is no set time, so just wait [08:44] whats the rush? [08:44] South Africa ? [08:44] if you miss the release by 5 minutes, the world will not end [08:44] it will be like the beta with some minor changes [08:44] big deal [08:44] 5 minutes! Noooooo! [08:45] Ikonia, no one is worrying. :-) [08:45] Don't spoil the fun. :-P [08:45] when it is released there will be an announcment, please just sit tight and wait for the anouncment [08:45] how about they just name the bate 2 as final and release it [08:45] Tanvir: it's a support channel, this stuff is of no value [08:45] a lot has changed since beta 2 [08:45] Its amazing that people loves Ubuntu the most! Even they couldn't wait. [08:45] so just walt and relax [08:45] lets have positive attitude, clock is ticking and on distrowatch there is no ubuntu "12.04 LTS beta", but 'ubuntu 12.04 LTS', so maybe things going right way ;] [08:46] As soon as it IS out, #ubuntu will be supporting 12.04 too. [08:46] hi all. My Ubuntu is with a problem. I cannot login, it shows an error about .ICEauthority [08:46] Can I just upgrade from beta with dist-upgrade? [08:46] any Idea? [08:46] hudeki: sure [08:46] <_r00t_> hudeki: apparently yes === JackyAlcine is now known as Jacky [08:46] alvesjnr, post it clearly and with details [08:47] Ikonia, I aware of that. :-) *expects flexibility* [08:47] but when i do apt-get update i get: W: Ophalen van http://ppa.launchpad.net/cooperjona/nitrotasks/ubuntu/dists/natty/main/source/Sources is mislukt 404 Not Found W: Ophalen van http://ppa.launchpad.net/cooperjona/nitrotasks/ubuntu/dists/natty/main/binary-i386/Packages is mislukt 404 Not Found E: Some index files failed to download. They have been ignored, or old ones used instead. [08:47] alvesjnr, join #ubuntu+1 for Pangolin help [08:47] alex--: that PPA is not found/no-longer exists [08:47] omgubuntu.co.uk says [08:47] PPA was down [08:47] was or is? [08:47] is [08:47] When I try to log int it pops-up: "Error: could not update .ICEauthority" [08:48] alex--: omgubuntu does not monitor or control PPA's [08:48] alex--: there is no natty package in that repo [08:49] Pls dont just add PPAs with your eyes closed. Once I did from OMG then I lost the system. [08:49] He just wants to fill up his blogs with something. [08:50] is there a release channel? [08:50] ikonia: so how to fix it? [08:50] ilf, #ubuntu+1 [08:50] !party > ilf [08:50] ilf, please see my private message [08:50] alex--: contact the person who owns that PPA and ask him to put a natty package together [08:51] ah [08:51] Hi! I want to design a fork of Ubuntu that discourages negros from using it [08:51] how can i remove the ppa? [08:51] is this allowed? [08:51] Vergudo, racism not allowed here.Pls mind your words. [08:52] yay, k-line active, thanks Freenode staff! [08:52] alex:remove list in /etc/apt/source.list [08:52] hello [08:53] sorry mathews [08:53] when is ubuntu out? [08:53] that is why I said negros and not niggers [08:53] I won't do it again [08:53] Vergudo: not cool [08:53] what? [08:53] negro means black [08:53] it is not a racial slur [08:54] Ubuntu has no race and it is for the entire world! [08:54] I'm using (trying to) Gnome and the 12.04 beta after upgrading yesterday. But now nothing from my ~/Desktop(local language equivalent) is showing anymore =[. The local lang Desktop folder that was working for 11.10 is still there, so I'm wondering if anyone can tell me what has changed? [08:54] yes Ubuntu is no race [08:54] mathews]$ hes trolling pay no attention [08:54] he wants a reply [08:54] umm [08:54] Vergudo don't be facetious [08:55] silence makes nothing! [08:55] party time in here? [08:55] trask: no [08:55] They've been klined a 2nd time, just ignore it [08:55] trask: no [08:55] * elijah is getting his party time on! [08:56] * elijah just checked for updates like a kid on Christmas [08:56] Slartibart, there are issues with upgrading....mostly the community not suggests it.Wait to release the 12.04 and do some updates and see. [08:56] lol [08:57] so no release today? [08:57] isn't the word "ubuntu" a african word, and since most of Africa is black wouldn't that mean that ubuntu is aswell? [08:57] Moon_Doggy: drop it please. [08:57] :) [08:57] strange issue, anyone on 10.04 and started to experience random freezes in the past 10 days [08:57] it was just a joke [08:57] Moon_Doggy: ok, then please don't [08:58] Moon_Doggy: where the funny part? [08:58] wonder if there was a bad kernel update, or something else [08:58] anon^_^: nope [08:58] mathews: Ok, will do. Thanks. [08:58] Moon_Doggy, even the login sound too from their favorite instrument. [08:58] Hey I wonder what the heck is grub [08:58] apt-get [08:58] bobbyaldol: a bootmanager [08:58] grand unified boot loader [08:58] Moon_Doggy: quick tip I learned a while ago - Use 'a' preceding words that start with a consonant and 'an' preceding words that start with a vowel! [08:58] is ubuntu out today still ? [08:59] grand "unfinished" ... [08:59] ok. That makes sense . But will it ever stop to work [08:59] * elijah hopes Ubuntu release is delayed, needs some more fine tuning imo. [08:59] because I have a message saying that it failed [08:59] I need a fart as a login sound [09:00] kjs_: yeah, it will be out at some point today [09:00] Hatrix76: find one and set it up then [09:00] will 12.4 final be released today? [09:00] go to www.ubuntu.com and keep your finger on F5 [09:00] Moon_Doggy: yes [09:00] you have a strange taste for music [09:00] ikonia, better yet, I should record one ... than it's really personal and I don't follow the crowd [09:01] Hatrix76: don't really care, it's not a support question, do what you want [09:01] ikonia, ? [09:01] Moon_Doggy: sorry, that was for mueslee [09:01] oh [09:02] neat! [09:02] when? :) [09:02] ikonia, speaking of support questions, have you ever use xmodmap? [09:02] my old harddisk just died [09:02] best time for a new system [09:02] Moon_Doggy: very rarley, I don't have cause to normally [09:02] hi all, can I already update to ubuntu 12? not seeing anything in software updates... [09:02] SteveBell: then no, wait for the updates to be available [09:03] ok, should they be available today? if so about what time? [09:03] SteveBell: no set time [09:03] hi guys! i am told by a friend that my xorg.conf has the correct graphic card, but that "nvidia settings identifies as" another card. [09:04] New ubuntu coming today right? [09:04] kk, will try to be more patient :) [09:04] I hope it is released when I get home from work [09:04] Will launch up a vbox and try it out :) [09:04] well I remapped capslock to be the left "alt" key and I succeed but I can't use my newly mapped key in combination with another key like alt-tab [09:05] !offtopic [09:05] #ubuntu is the Ubuntu support channel, for all Ubuntu-related support questions. Please use #ubuntu-offtopic for other topics (though our !guidelines apply there too). Thanks! [09:08] what does that mean, how can i check, and how do i change that? === kief is now known as n1gz [09:10] why are so many mirrors on https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+archivemirrors a week behind? is that normal? [09:10] what time today Pangolin available? [09:11] guys how can i correct the problem with JAVA ? [09:11] firefox disables java [09:12] hello .. how can i monitor http connection on our machine ?? (i want see detial what send and what get it !!) [09:12] weox: view the http logs [09:13] ikonia : http logs ?? i want monitor all possible data .. like post method get method and ... !! [09:14] weox: yes, so you can see that in the httpd logs [09:14] ikonia : where is that log ? [09:15] /var/log/ [09:16] weox: your apache logs [09:17] Umm, I know this may sound stupid or something but it's really all I can think of at the moment. How can I force Linux to send power through my VGA port on my computer, so it recognises that my second monitor is actually connected? [09:17] hi guys! i am told by a friend that my xorg.conf has the correct graphic card, but that "nvidia settings identifies as" another card. [09:17] what does that mean, how can i check, and how do i change that? [09:17] I have a strange problem with my work PC running @ Ubuntu. Whenever I want to copy & paste something from NetBeans to Google Chrome nothing happen. It works fine from Kate to Chrome or NetBeans to rekonq. But not from NetBeans to Chrome. Anybody got any ideas what is the matter? [09:19] Womkes: Where are you copying it to? Address bar? Document in Google Docs? [09:19] somsip, into a from, copying to address bar works fine [09:19] form [09:19] for an unknow reason, after a reboot my user loses the permission to write on his own home directory (???). It was quite easy to fixe, but any of you have some Idea about why did it happen? [09:19] hello. [09:20] my question is that, that I am currently on ubuntu 11.10 (current main OS) and I want to update to 12.04. I have installed virtual box for 11.10. So will my virtual box still work if I upgrade my OS to 12.04? [09:20] Womkes: ah - not had, but unable to copy from Google Docs as easy as I would like. Probably not related to your issue [09:20] ammar good question , it should work i think [09:20] I think it happened after one of the Chrome updates about 2 weeks ago [09:21] suddenly cannot copy&paste from NetBeans to Chrome anymore [09:21] really strange [09:21] so can I update it manually? [09:21] if it doesn't work? [09:21] ammar__, it will work fine [09:21] why don't they just release Ubuntu tomorrow since it is not even ready yet today [09:21] Alrght guys. I'm trying to set a scheduled reboot for 6am. I've done sudo crontab -e, then added 0 6 * * * reboot. It's not working, what am I doing wrong? [09:21] there is no guarantee [09:21] great :) [09:22] also one more question [09:22] ah, sorry ammar__ I read it wrong [09:22] why do you guys think it's not ready? [09:22] ammar__: Your VirtualBox VM should work, if they are stored in /home partition (.virtualboxVM). [09:22] I thought you had 11.04 in vbox environment [09:22] and you want to pdate that one [09:22] yeah I dont know about question [09:22] that is somethign you have to test yeah [09:22] ah alright. [09:23] Hoi everyone [09:23] I am currently running the latest beta for 12.04 in a vbox environment on my windows7 pc [09:23] that works fine [09:23] my other question is what is LTS? and when is Ubuntu 12.04 going to be released I mean out of beta. [09:23] But only if you run in normal (user mode), VMs with root priviliges are stored elsewhere and mioght be deleted with the update (this is assuming /home is ona different partition) [09:24] in the global world of computers and the internet when they say April 26 most would think April 26 midnight at their headquarter's time [09:24] LTS = Long Term Support [09:24] means that version will be supported for 18 months [09:24] but for 12.04 that has been increased to 5 years [09:24] @Womkes. I mean to say that I am on ubuntu. (it is my primary OS) and I am running virtualbox to run XP in it [09:24] thats cool [09:25] Usually businesses use the LTS version in their organizations [09:25] so when is it ganna be released? I mean when is it ganna be out of beta stage? [09:25] e.g. in the company I work for we only upgrade from LTS to LTS [09:25] nothing in between [09:25] Today ammar__ [09:25] 12.04 will be released somewhere today [09:25] :D thats awesome! [09:25] ubuntu canonical team is on UTC - 7 ? [09:26] one more question. [09:26] As far as virtual box goes, just check the vbox website/community for any issues relating 12.04 support [09:26] UTC-1 [09:26] well they never give you exact time do they [09:26] or so [09:26] if I update to ubuntu LTS. will I be able to update again to other non LTS versions? [09:26] yeah sure [09:26] mirrors are probably syncing now [09:26] you can do a dist_upgrade whenever you want [09:27] this is awesome! [09:27] The easiest way to look at it that LTS versions are like major versions and non-LTS minor version like service packs for windows [09:27] not exactly but the general idea [09:28] ammar__: you can, of course, LTS just means that you a) don't need to upgrade to every release because you'll receive bugfixes for a longer time and b) you can upgrade to the next LTS directly [09:28] for businesses with more long term planning for their IT infrastructure it is better to use the LTS [09:29] so do u guys know the release time? [09:29] hi [09:29] You can plan a bit more, provides stability that you know that the version you will use is being supported for hte next 5 years [09:29] so lunbuntu doesn't have ltr? [09:29] Dunno ammar__ somewhere today, think should be somewhere in the next couple of hours [09:29] mirrors are ready [09:29] hi... i've installed vmware player on my machine, but i cannot run it... when I click on the icon, it says several modules need to be compiled and loaded into the kernel, then when i click on install, after asking for the root pass, it tries these modules: 1.Virtual Machine Monitor, 2.Virtual Network Device, 3.Vmware Blocking Filesystem, 4. Virtual Machine Communication Interface, 5.VMCI Sockets. and numbers 2,4 and 5 fail, and it displays this error: Un [09:29] able to start services: See log for file.... any clues whats the problem? [09:29] in the netherlands we have a company that has set up a 3.2 Gbit/sec mirror [09:29] Womkes: my parents get LTS, too, less work for me, less need to visit them for upgrades ;) [09:30] https://weblog.bit.nl/2012/04/25/voorbereidingen-van-de-nl-mirror-op-ubuntu-12-04-precise-pangolin/ [09:30] its in dutch [09:30] nina666: did you install the kernel headers [09:30] but they will host one of the major ubuntu mirrors :) [09:30] Hoyt: how should I look for them? [09:31] nina666: sudo apt-get install linux-headers-`uname -r` [09:32] how do i make a windows boot usb in linux? [09:32] a_b0y: use grub4dos [09:32] ok i'll search for it [09:33] a_b0y: no , sorry i misunderstand your question , it can only boot some DOS images and linux [09:33] will i be able to upgrade from lucid to precise today? [09:33] Hoyt: this is what i get: http://pastebin.com/wsWDZJDE [09:33] @gorski yes you will [09:33] a_b0y: use VMware / VIrtualbox , and install windows inside , make your bootable usb [09:33] ok, tnx [09:34] Hoyt: which apparently the headers are there... [09:34] hoyt, i have an iso image of windows and i want to make a bootable usb with it [09:35] 3 [09:35] hey [09:35] a_b0y: i never tried to make a bootable windows installer , usually I use winpe + ghost [09:35] would I require a CD to burn the image? or can I like directly update? [09:35] Hoyt: and this is what vmware log shows me: http://pastebin.com/upteF7QH [09:35] nina666: sudo apt-get install monodoc-browser [09:35] I m using 11.10 ubuntu, after a power failure, I am seeing this, BusyBox V1.18.4 (Ubuntu 1:1.18.4-2ubuntu2) built in shell(ash) enter help for a list of commands (initramfs) [09:36] please help [09:36] @yuni [09:37] boot into your windows [09:37] ok [09:37] open it fully and then restart your computer [09:37] Hi everyone [09:37] this will fix the issue [09:37] Does anyone know when 12.04 will be released? [09:37] how i will, open it [09:38] open what? [09:38] I m using 11.10 ubuntu, after a power failure, I am seeing this, BusyBox V1.18.4 (Ubuntu 1:1.18.4-2ubuntu2) built in shell(ash) enter help for a list of commands (initramfs) [09:38] help [09:38] nina666: does VMware provide you a compile log file ? [09:39] @yuni boot into your windows OS and run chkdsk [09:39] after that restart your computer [09:39] ammar__: you are falsely assuming he has windows [09:39] and run ubuntu [09:39] how can i check if dri is loaded? or check the gpu usage? [09:39] dear I m not using windows [09:39] yuni: do you have any other bootable media [09:39] woops [09:39] yes [09:39] live cd [09:40] yuni: try boot with recover mode , and see what you can get [09:40] yuni: and fix it laterly with your live cd [09:41] ok [09:41] i have a headless ubuntu system that im running as a home server. Im intermittedly getting having issues access it on the lan for 15 to 30 seconds at a time every hour or so. Im running version 11.10. Suggestions on where i should start looking? Could some sort of power management setting be affecting things? [09:41] i am using a laptop & an hdmi out -- is there a way to make them behave as two separate workspaces? [09:41] thanks [09:41] MACscr: what service do you run remotely ? [09:42] well im connected to it through a web interface for deluge, ssh, and samba [09:42] during these short outages, its not even responding to ping [09:42] hi, I have a laptop which for days now has given very strange errors: seems it could be hardware but I can't figure out what. It boots from live usb, but with crazy graphics artefacts, even in the bios screen [09:42] if I plug in something to a USB slot I also get errors [09:43] and if I go to an external monitor, the graphics mess doesn't change [09:43] hoyt do you know a program like "make startup disk" that works for making a windows install usb? [09:43] a_b0y: definitely not working [09:43] MACscr a wireless remote connection? [09:43] MonkeyDust: gbit lan [09:43] a_b0y: if you really want a bootable usb installer of windows , you should consider winpe , but I never tried that [09:43] hello, i have problems getting 3d to work with ubuntu 12.04, glxgears outputs following error: [09:43] X Error of failed request: BadRequest (invalid request code or no such operation) [09:43] ok [09:43] how can i reconfigure my graphics card? [09:44] hello, i have permission configuration issue http://serverfault.com/questions/382958/proftpd-configuration-mod-auth-file-cross-folders-with-different-rights-in-group/382968 [09:44] fsgxdroid0: what cards do you have ? [09:44] intel 3000 [09:44] o.o [09:45] there are over 10 times more people on here than on the Linux Mint help, but there are more people helping in the mint chat [09:45] Hoyt: i think the problem is that i swapped my hdd to another machine which had radeon card [09:45] and now, in my main machine the 3d won't work anymore [09:46] fsgxdroid0: maybe sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg ? [09:46] Hoyt: i'm thinking that is there someway to start graphics driver detection again? [09:47] * xzcvczx wonders how long before one would get banned for making a script asking "is it out yet" every minute in here :P [09:47] Hoyt: ok, i tried that command but it won't return nothing... should it popup some kind of dialog screen? [09:47] no [09:48] Hoyt: yes, here: http://pastebin.com/upteF7QH [09:48] fsgxdroid0: logout and login again [09:48] ok [09:48] fsgxdroid0: maybe reboot [09:48] or ctrl-alt-backspace [09:49] xzcvczx: that doesn't work [09:49] Hoyt: it didn't help [09:49] wow, i am out of date [09:49] same thing... [09:49] fsgxdroid0: what gpu [09:49] one moment [09:49] sudo service lightdm restart? [09:50] restarting lightdm will restart X as well ? [09:50] http://releases.ubuntu.com/12.04/ubuntu-12.04-desktop-amd64.iso.torrent [09:50] if I upgrade my ubuntu, my laptop won't even work... [09:50] so I'll just have to watch screen captures of other people's new ubuntu versions [09:50] released everbyody [09:50] "unable to enumerate usb bla bla" - what could be broken? [09:50] Hoyt: err, should do? [09:50] xzcvczx: i don't knwo , that's why i'm asking [09:51] hi [09:51] 12.04 released? [09:51] http://releases.ubuntu.com/12.04/ubuntu-12.04-desktop-amd64.iso [09:51] Hoyt: well thats the parent process that x is running under (well was back in the gdm/xdm/kdm days [09:51] rofl [09:51] :P [09:51] Hoyt: http://pastebin.com/z241a772 [09:52] After reinstalling grub, and rebooting, I can no longer use the server console.. It just sits there, flashing an underscore. I can however, ssh in, and stuff. Why is this? [09:52] I don't see the 12.04 on the download page: http://www.ubuntu.com/download/ubuntu/download [09:52] it's not released yet :P [09:52] fsgxdroid0: looks like you have the correct driver already on [09:52] http://releases.ubuntu.com/12.04/ [09:52] Multiply: have you messed with the crontab? [09:52] fsgxdroid0: can you try *sudo service lightdm restart* [09:52] so it's out on the mirrors yet? [09:53] Multiply: err. not crontab [09:53] yes, moment [09:53] xzcvczx: I was about to say no xD [09:53] Multiply: the thing that lists where to start a virtual terminal [09:53] config file [09:53] f0x: those iso images are from yesterday [09:54] xzcvczx: I tried upgrading the system, but it failed at setting up grub, I assume. So I tried for 2 hours now, getting in, and when I finally got it right, I followed some instructions telling me to uninstall grub, and reinstall it. So I did. [09:54] "25-Apr-2012 16:13" [09:54] Multiply: although i assume you have tried alt-f1 through alt-f4 [09:54] Now it boots, but there's no server console [09:54] some of are from 26 [09:54] xzcvczx: I'll quitely go away, ashamed. [09:54] yeah but they'll probably just be different versions of yesterday's daily [09:54] Multiply: you do that :P [09:54] Multiply: all good [09:54] they'll announce the release when its out [09:55] xzcvczx: Damn I feel stupid. Thanks. [09:55] nah its a trap for those who don't know [09:55] nina666: you seems to be missing one package [09:55] It sure is. xD [09:55] But I guess most people getting to the server console knows? [09:55] torrents are working [09:55] hi i tried to install 12.04 but on boot computer freezes apparently after loading of nouveau drivers, what to do? [09:55] Except, well, me. >_< [09:55] get on them and unlimit your upload === commie is now known as commodore256 [09:55] Multiply: anyone who cares for multitasking does :P [09:55] Hoyt: yea and how I can figure out what is it...? [09:56] http://releases.ubuntu.com/precise/ubuntu-12.04-desktop-amd64.iso [09:56] xzcvczx: Oh well, I am forever happy for the help! :D [09:56] hello guys, I have freshly intalled ubuntu 11.04 and I have installed VLC on it, but when I have a movie loaded, the system logs off automatically... why so? [09:56] xzcvczx: Can't believe I spent 2 hours getting thru grub bash tho >_< [09:56] jschall: i get a 404 on that link. [09:56] Multiply: yeah grub can be fun [09:56] nina666: can you list the dpkg -l | grep linux- | grep `uname -r` [09:57] http://releases.ubuntu.com/precise/ubuntu-12.04-desktop-amd64.iso.torrent [09:57] nitzs: oops [09:57] xzcvczx: I ended up trying 3 different live CDs, to get in, and see what the /dev/sda was supposed to be. [09:57] Hi guys, I come from windows using excell and I would like to have a more automisable and costumisable setup for entering and retreiving data using ubuntu. What setup do you suggest I use? (I can also do some basic coding in python) [09:57] nina666: when you install kernel header for e.g 3.2.0-20 , you must install both linux-headers-3.2.0-20 and linux-headers-3.2.0-20-generic [09:57] xzcvczx: When I finally got that, it took me 10 seconds to boot, from grub. >_< [09:57] nina666: otherwise you'll be missing some generated files [09:57] nitzs: slow to get started because it's not authorized on tracker yet [09:57] nitzs: but it works [09:57] matt0572: it is a bit of a pity that the popular distros these days do not do well for teaching people the low level linux stuff [09:58] Multiply: rather [09:58] peter32: have you tried LibreOfficeCalc? [09:58] So i can download the final from http://releases.ubuntu.com/12.04/ubuntu-12.04-desktop-i386.iso ? [09:58] jschall: a 404 on that as well. [09:58] Hoyt: oh... didnt know that, ok let me try first... thanks [09:58] nitzs: i tested that one [09:58] xzcvczx: What do you mean teaching people? What's keeping the people from learning? [09:58] Can I use the terminal to input data in office calc? [09:58] I just downloaded that one, but there doesn't seem to be an amd64 yet.. [09:58] the shell i mean [09:58] xzcvczx: I've been using debian/ubuntu for years, but stuff like this... never. >_< [09:59] Shape: as opposed to something nutty like gentoo :P [09:59] It would suprise me if they're the final, they were only modified at 9:28, which is about half an hour after people officially start work... [09:59] shani0610, see this thread http://askubuntu.com/search?q=system+logs+off+loading+VLC [09:59] why people don't just grab the daily build ? It's almost the same [09:59] Shape: you start off up a kind of creek without a paddle :P [09:59] none care [09:59] before official release of precise [09:59] * ManDay mumbles "So, it has begun..." [09:59] LordSputnik: Can I use the shell to input data in office calc? [09:59] @mathews thanks mate... [09:59] peter32: what's the office calc ? [10:00] Hoyt, you Talking me ? [10:00] xzcvczx: If people want to learn nothing is stopping them to do so. But expecting a total noob who just installed linux to start from scratch without being able to even surf the internet or play media is a bit too elitist. [10:00] peter32: enter in csv import into application of choice? [10:00] lost-man: i'm more like broadcasting ... [10:00] uh not that i know of (LibreOffice Calc) [10:00] Hoyt: ok so this is what i get: http://pastebin.com/TGD3hgTt [10:00] Shape: thats how i learnt it.... and it taught me a lot (a lot of which admittedly i have forgotten) === misha is now known as Guest61082 [10:00] i mean libreoffice calc [10:01] Hoyt, So http://releases.ubuntu.com/12.04/ubuntu-12.04-desktop-i386.iso for standard? [10:01] Shape: and i am more stating a fact... with gui's for everything people are less likely to dive deeper [10:01] lost-man: i guess === Guest61082 is now known as yvy [10:01] xzcvczx: Of course you will learn a lot. But the general elitist/linux view is that you have to be a car engineer to be allowed to drive a car. [10:01] peter32: what are you trying to do with your data, and what format is it in? [10:01] Shape: and i am not saying thats universal [10:01] lost-man, Pls dont post fake links and divert people from here. [10:01] Shape: it couldn't hurt when you see someone who doesn't know how to change a tyre :P [10:02] s/tyre/wheel/ [10:02] Actually, I am applying for a job where I need to input data in excell. But I'd like to automise the input as much as possible [10:02] mathews, Fake link? Is that fake link? [10:02] i'm wondering , if I allocate memory using PMEM in Android , would i be able to access it in chrooted ubuntu? [10:02] heh [10:02] lost-man, try it and see! [10:02] lost-man: it 404's, so yes [10:03] peter32: well what form is the data in? [10:03] or ... it did 404, works for me now [10:03] Yeah, but that's what makes society go. No person on this planet knows everything so that's why we specialize in things. If someone is a business man and does his job it would be silly to expect from him he knows what's going on in the system. He takes it for granted that others have done the checks just like when you go into an airplane you don't know anything of what's actually going on. [10:03] nina666: here's some crazy idea , [10:03] ben64 it´s not 404, it´s 701MB ISO file [10:03] :It can be in any format that excell can export [10:03] it was 404 [10:03] it isn't for me [10:03] mathews, Ben64 i worked for me http://releases.ubuntu.com/12.04/ubuntu-12.04-desktop-i386.iso [10:03] lost-man, Ubuntu 12.04 not yet released.Pls wait! === ecthiender_ is now known as ecthiender [10:04] nina666: you compile the vmware module yourself , and copy the .ko files to the right path, and do the depmod -a , and tell me what errors you see [10:04] right [10:04] it's out ! [10:04] yep, its out now [10:04] downloading... what's the md5sum? [10:04] mathews, Yeah waiting for it to see on the download page..... Dunno when [10:04] hah [10:04] http://mirror.bytemark.co.uk/ubuntu-releases/12.04/ [10:04] I've been waiting this for hours [10:04] Hoyt: get a life [10:05] http://releases.ubuntu.com/12.04/ [10:05] The main page says it's still beta. [10:05] No , checkout the schedule [10:05] Hoyt: i'm back... that "service lightdm restart" command caused crash, and desktop didn't appared .... i managed to restart my system by goint to another termina l(CTRL+ALT+F1) and restart my system manually [10:05] Shape, Yeah [10:05] features are already freezed [10:05] lost-man, Yeah, we all waiting to download it but dont like to see the 404 error! [10:05] Shape: meh i give up arguing with you as i agree with what you are saying. but as they say "a little knowledge can be dangerous" esspecially when you do "r{insert corect character here} -rf /" when you meant to do "r{insert correct character here} -rf ." (which i have done once by accident) [10:05] fsgxdroid0: so your desktop doesn't start anymore ? [10:06] there is no release on russian mirror though [10:06] hi [10:06] after restarting machine the desktop appared [10:06] When you brows http://releases.ubuntu.com/12.04/ubuntu-12.04-desktop-i386.iso you get 404 ? [10:06] fsgxdroid0: how about glxgears ? [10:06] http://releases.ubuntu.com/12.04/ [10:06] i thought ubuntu 12.10 is being released today [10:06] i go to website and shows only 12.04 Beta [10:06] vuth_: that'll happen 6 months later [10:06] vuth_: thats october [10:06] how would i get a theme i downloaded to work? [10:06] vuth_: 12 = year 04 = month [10:07] Hoyt: glxgears -> http://pastebin.com/NBr233gK [10:07] hence 12.04 = april 2012 [10:07] ohh..wow i never knewthat lol [10:07] and 12.10 = october 2012 [10:07] http://mirror.anl.gov/pub/ubuntu-iso/CDs/12.04/ [10:07] thats awesome..but 12.04 is only beta? [10:07] http://releases.ubuntu.com/precise/ [10:07] 12.04 OUT [10:07] US mirror has it [10:07] please don't post links, it's not out yet. [10:07] vuth_: i only realised it yesterday [10:07] RiMMER: that includes you [10:07] hi, i'm having a hard time activating direct rendering for my nvidia gt430. I edited xorg.conf with load "dri" [10:07] thanks rimmer [10:07] fsgxdroid0: let's check the log in /var/log/Xorg.0.log [10:07] it will be out when the irc topic changes and the md5 are released [10:07] l3d, simply drag and drop the theme file to the theme window or follow the "how to install" file inside the theme folder. [10:07] hi when I make search google always shows me the localized version of google instead of english..how can I permanently make google english as default preferences? [10:08] hi, hopefully someone can help me [10:08] ty [10:08] !party [10:08] Please remember that #ubuntu, #kubuntu, #xubuntu, and #edubuntu are support channels. To countdown to !Precise release and then party once it happens, join #ubuntu-release-party - For in-person parties, see http://loco.ubuntu.com/events/global/1598/detail/ [10:08] irenicus09 www.google.com/ncr [10:08] i have a broken ubuntu installation [10:08] irenicus09, you can use duckduckgo to get a non filterbubbled internet [10:08] !Precise [10:08] Ubuntu 12.04 LTS (Precise Pangolin) is the 16th release of Ubuntu and is in Beta testing from 2nd March, Discussion and support until final release in #ubuntu+1 [10:08] lpq: what happend that caused the broken installation? [10:08] uninstalled nvidia drivers [10:08] if i installed 1204 final beta and when the final release is out will i have to download again? or will it update to final release for me? [10:09] then it hosed the system [10:09] lpq: #define hosed [10:09] Hoyt: http://pastebin.com/7AcG8eJZ [10:09] I asked before but got cut off: I have a laptop that shows lots of random graphics artefacts on boot and in the bios, on external monitors and if you bend the keyboard even... [10:09] i boot into ubuntu, the os immediately goes into powersave mode [10:09] hey , why no one read the release schedule ? in the last few days , only things like kernel / translation can suffer to change a lot [10:09] and if Iplug in usb it can't numerate it. [10:09] if i attempt to boot using recovery mode, the same result [10:09] irenicus09, there is an option below the search box as Google.com in English" [10:09] lpq: laptop or? [10:09] what could be wrong with it? is it time for a new graphics card, or could it be some kind of other thing? [10:10] ubuntu boots in recovery, immediately goes into power save [10:10] xzcvczx, no, not a laptop [10:10] hi [10:10] lpq: and i assume its not wakable? [10:10] fsgxdroid0: here (EE) GLX error: Can not get required symbols. [10:10] fsgxdroid0: your opengl library is corrupted , i guess [10:10] alright [10:11] hi [10:11] lpq, include as many details as possible in ur post [10:11] lpq: or do you man that the monitor goes into powersave? [10:11] wat time is 12.04 comin out? [10:11] fsgxdroid0: start up "jockey-gtk" [10:11] Hoyt: do i need to recompile it or just using apt-get to reinstall? [10:11] xzcvczx, no user input will wake the screen [10:11] yassu: when its ready [10:11] yassu: "today" [10:11] yassu http://releases.ubuntu.com/precise/ [10:11] mouse, keyboard, nothing [10:11] maybe something shuold go in the topic about that [10:11] Ben64: it says no drivers available for my system [10:12] lpq: have you got a ubuntu cd handy? [10:12] fsgxdroid0: i don't know , did you installed any binary driver , e.g fglrx (ATI's) or nvidia's ? [10:12] yes [10:12] shomon: what do you mean by numerate? [10:12] Hoyt: yes [10:13] shomon, ur post missing many details....describe it well with version too [10:13] Hoyt: probably, i need to get rid of those drivers from my system, but i don't know how [10:13] Multiply: another hint if you didn't know for using the multiterm... from your gui you can use ctrl-alt-f1 through f6 typically and f7 will take you abck to your gui, if not keep trying higher f keys until you return to gui [10:13] fsgxdroid0: remove it , that's what caused your opengl library mismatch [10:13] fsgxdroid0: you don't have cards other than intel's right? [10:13] Hoyt: yep [10:13] fsgxdroid0: what card did you have before [10:14] Multiply or uee ctrl arrow left to return to the gui [10:14] hi [10:14] Any ideas on how lts will be released ? [10:14] ATI radeon [10:14] fsgxdroid0: apt-get purge fglrx-* [10:14] DYSW: already is [10:14] MonkeyDust: or ctrl-arrow right (multiple times) :P [10:14] DYSW it's not out yet [10:14] DYSW: when its ready [10:14] do you have a questions? [10:14] The following packages will be REMOVED: fglrx* fglrx-amdcccle* fglrx-updates* [10:14] xzcvczx, yes i have a lived cd [10:15] Hoyt: ill try restart now : ) [10:15] xzcvczx: Sure, but since the date is set for today, i kind of figured they had a hourly target as well. [10:15] is autostart not available in ubuntu anymore? want a very simple way to run a particular command on boot that will run as the user [10:15] rc.local runs as root [10:15] DYSW: well today actually has almost 48 hours so by the 48th hour :) [10:15] yvy: yes [10:16] xzcvczx may depend on the timezone ;) [10:16] if it's not out then what the hell is this? releases.ubuntu.com/12.04/ubuntu-12.04-desktop-i386.iso [10:16] let`s start! [10:16] Hoyt: THANK YOU!!! : ) [10:16] Hoyt: ok... im afraid i need a little more help on how to do that... === marco is now known as Guest2288 [10:16] great release timing: 12:04 :) [10:16] xzcvczx: LoL Only 24 hours here. No rush so lets see what happens. Using arch mainly so its mostly just for fun [10:16] MonkeyDust: yeah but thats the typical response by most open source thinks i believe, that will just be vague as to what timezone its in [10:17] pawdro: That would make sense [10:17] nina666: i'll try give you a script , did you use Vmware workstation 8 ? === zaba_ is now known as Guest55423 [10:17] DYSW: well theres only 1hr and 43mins of the 26th left here but i doubt it will be out before out 27th [10:17] fsgxdroid0: worked ? [10:17] are these right? 128f0c16f4734c420b0185a492d92e52 ubuntu-12.04-desktop-amd64.iso and d791352694374f1c478779f7f4447a3f ubuntu-12.04-desktop-i386.iso ? [10:17] Hoyt: thanks, and no, its vmware player.. [10:17] xzcvczx: its out already [10:17] nina666: what version ? [10:17] Ben64: it's not. [10:17] is it out [10:17] it is. [10:17] it's not officially out the servers are being updated so be patient [10:18] Hoyt: indeed - it works perfectly now :) [10:18] Ben64: i will wait for the topic and md5sums to be released [10:18] fsgxdroid0: glad to hear [10:18] Ben64: We are talking 12.04 not 10.04 === yvy is now known as windows [10:18] Yeah , it's so slow out of US [10:18] Ben64: as you get a free gift if you wait until its official [10:18] irc topic is not indicative of a release [10:18] Ben64 use sudo d-release-upgrade to find out if it's out or not [10:18] Ben64: actually, there is no email on the release mailing list, so it's not. Stop saying it is. [10:18] hi...does Gnome, Unity, KDE...do the same this? they are all launcher application? you can have one or the other only installed? === windows is now known as windows_xp_user [10:18] Ben64 use sudo do-release-upgrade to find out if it's out or not [10:18] I had to wait for the mirror [10:18] i'm seeding it on my server. [10:18] *this = thing [10:18] it is out. [10:18] yvy: when is 12.04 comig out? [10:18] Ben64: so, it's not out, stop saying it is. [10:18] it's out [10:18] vuth_: you can have all installed [10:18] Hoyt: VMware-Player-4.0.2-591240.x86_64.bundle [10:18] I really don't understand the rush for 12.04 - either wait or install current pre-release and update to release [10:18] it is more prudent to wait for the md5 [10:18] xzcvczx: What free gift??! [10:19] vuth_: but usually just run one of them [10:19] http://releases.ubuntu.com/12.04/ [10:19] it is out [10:19] always the same ridiculous "it is out!" "no it's not" "yes, it is" debate :) [10:19] Shape: you will have to wait and see :) [10:19] kick me all you want [10:19] yassu: within 48 hours apperently [10:19] they are all Launchers correct? [10:19] Ben64: please, come on, stop it [10:19] SunTsu: upgrades are messy, if you need to do 10+ [10:19] Ben64: next one will be with a ban, since it's not out yet. [10:19] it's out :DD [10:19] Ben64: yes. i'm downloading it right now. [10:19] read the page i linked === LjL changed the topic of #ubuntu to: Official Ubuntu Support Channel | IRC Guidelines: http://ubottu.com/y/gl | IRC info: http://ubottu.com/y/irc | Pastes to http://paste.ubuntu.com/ | Release Notes: http://ubottu.com/y/rn | Download: http://ubottu.com/y/dl | Currently supporting 10.04 LTS, 11.04 and 11.10 | Party in #ubuntu-release-party | 12.04 support in #ubuntu+1 [10:19] Well he is right. [10:19] http://releases.ubuntu.com/12.04/ubuntu-12.04-desktop-i386.iso [10:19] Ben64: it's not been announced, and anyway take this to #ubuntu-release-party, it doesn't belong here [10:20] in my country its nearly the 27th [10:20] its on ubuntu.com! [10:20] yassu= 12.04 is in Final Beta [10:20] xzcvczx: free gift if you buy it? or just download? [10:20] Hoyt: as a user, i was just expecting that software figures out which hardware is currently used in my system... dude, ty again : ) [10:20] not now Ben64 [10:20] http://releases.ubuntu.com/12.04/ [10:20] vuth_, its out its out! :) see http://releases.ubuntu.com/12.04/ [10:20] wget -c http://releases.ubuntu.com/12.04/ubuntu-12.04-desktop-i386.iso [10:20] sigh [10:20] yippee [10:20] next one who says it's out or posts a link gets a ban [10:20] when will 12.10 be out? [10:20] :D [10:20] YAY [10:20] thank u!! [10:20] m0rtal, lolz [10:20] hahahaha [10:21] whats with the power tripping and ignorance [10:21] Shape: download it [10:21] LjL, why? [10:21] but i need the usb installation :( [10:21] Ben64: if you think it's out, just go and download it. people would download when they want to. [10:21] tarzeau_: I'm talking fresh installation, doing it with current pre-release and upgrade it to release should go quite smooth [10:21] #UBUNTU IS A SUPPORT CHANNEL - take this to #ubuntu-release-party or #ubuntu-offtopic - anything that's not Ubuntu technical support doesn't belong here. clear enough? [10:22] can't find my fav lubuntu :( [10:22] m0rtal: planned Oct 18th according to this. https://wiki.ubuntu.com/QuantalQuetzal/ReleaseSchedule?action=show&redirect=QReleaseSchedul [10:22] Greetings [10:22] ezoe, thanx [10:22] lost-man, it works it terminal but not sure about is it beta or the release. [10:23] I am running Ubuntu 12.04 on a dualscreen set-up. I was wondering if it's possible to have the panel items (notifications, time, auth, etc.) only on one screen, rather than both [10:23] ThePendulum: you're on the wrong channel for that [10:23] ThePendulum: #ubuntu+1 [10:24] Oh, oke [10:24] It's not really a specific 12.04 issue though, but okay [10:24] mathews, That is why i am also worry to download it... But If it is beta then should name ubuntu-beta or like that... anyway [10:25] ThePendulum: when you run on 12.04 it is [10:25] ThePendulum: don't talk about 12.04 in here until the topic changes or people get mad at you [10:25] Okay, okay, calm [10:25] 1 Q? if i have installed ubuntu can i use aptitude install xubuntu-desktop and all sys settings stil are same ? [10:25] Ben64: no need to jump at them, they've been informed, they know now, they said "ok". if you have grudges with the rules, take them to #ubuntu-ops [10:26] what rules? 12.04 is out but a few people don't want to acknowledge that fact [10:26] is there an ubuntu thai flavor I can download? [10:26] with all text in thai. [10:27] lcc: http://www.ubuntu.com/support/community/locallanguage [10:27] lcc try the language package [10:27] buenas [10:27] thanks [10:27] please dont ban ben64..he is actually very helpful [10:27] ben64_, there have been several occurrances of respins on release day at a later stage in the day than this. [10:28] !es |peto_ [10:28] peto_: En la mayoría de los canales de Ubuntu, se habla sólo en inglés. Si busca ayuda en español entre al canal #ubuntu-es; escriba "/join #ubuntu-es" (sin comillas) y presione intro. [10:29] ubottu, I see, I will stay here too, thks [10:29] peto_: I am only a bot, please don't think I'm intelligent :) [10:29] vuth_: i'm sure, but he's not helpful when he fills the channel with "it's out". it's up to him now whether or not he'll be unbanned shortly. [10:29] ubottu, hehe [10:29] what is the expected release date of ubuntu 12.04.. ? [10:29] 26 april [10:29] sindhiBhai, today [10:29] utc time [10:29] k.. thx :) [10:30] today at 21:30 UTC [10:30] how much hdd use ubuntu default install ? [10:30] eagerly waiting :) === klaas- is now known as klaas [10:30] bububuntu, https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation/SystemRequirements [10:30] thnx u u djbenny i was seraching for that [10:31] vuth_, no problem [10:32] xzcvczx, ? [10:32] "15 GB of hard-drive space " shaise i hve only 10 GB [10:32] well u could do well with 5-10gb [10:32] bububuntu, it wont require 15gb to be honest... [10:32] sindhiBhai: http://releases.ubuntu.com/precise/ [10:33] anyone able to help with repairing a broken ubuntu install [10:33] djbenny: thats why i ask how much is default install ? :) [10:33] thx ciastek :) === m0rtal is now known as mortalkombat === mortalkombat is now known as m0rtalkombat [10:33] bububuntu: it depends, the minimal is about 1GB, the default is a few GB at best === sasdasd is now known as hutu [10:33] 15 gigs are for all packages [10:34] yeahy, Thats the final release? [10:34] bububuntu: well you need space to put things and games like nexuiz or other graphical things can take quite some space, but those do not get installed by default [10:35] bububuntu: i've installed ubuntu in 3gb partitions on numerous occasions. [10:35] !party [10:35] Please remember that #ubuntu, #kubuntu, #xubuntu, and #edubuntu are support channels. To countdown to !Precise release and then party once it happens, join #ubuntu-release-party - For in-person parties, see http://loco.ubuntu.com/events/global/1598/detail/ [10:35] ciastek: please don't post links as it's not released yet and it's not final until the release manager sends out an email. [10:35] nitzs: thxx i make one 8 gigs partition and run ! [10:36] bububuntu: yes. an 8gb partition will be quite enough if you won't install many games and stuff. [10:36] how do i force a distribution upgrade? [10:37] djbenny: to what ? [10:37] !Precise [10:37] Ubuntu 12.04 LTS (Precise Pangolin) is the 16th release of Ubuntu and is in Beta testing from 2nd March, Discussion and support until final release in #ubuntu+1 [10:37] from 12.04 Beta to final? [10:37] nitzs: no games nothing extra by default . system only for surfing ! [10:37] djbenny: when final is released updates will filter down like normal [10:37] djbenny: apt-get dist-upgrade should do it [10:37] !final | djbenny [10:37] djbenny: If you install a development version of Ubuntu Precise and keep up with package updates, then you will be upgraded to the official release of 12.04 when it comes out. To make sure, type « sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get dist-upgrade » in a terminal. Discussion and support in #ubuntu+1. [10:37] What is the exact time for release of ubuntu 12.04 [10:37] jiltdil: there isn't one [10:37] ikonia, acicula cheers [10:38] djbenny: just hang on for the release, and then you'll see updates offered, and that's how you'll get updated [10:38] ikonia, Any guess ?? After one hour? [10:38] djbenny: just like a normal day "10 updates to download etc" [10:38] jiltdil: there is no set time so you can't guess [10:38] ikonia, ok [10:38] jiltdil: just wait patiently [10:38] ikonia, ok cheers thats what i thought but just wanted to check [10:38] jiltdil: some guys are mentioning that it has already been released. so check it out yourself. [10:38] nitzs: it's not out [10:39] hi guys supp [10:39] jiltdil: please wait for the release announcment [10:39] hi hi hi [10:39] nitzs: yeah dist-upgrade set my release to precise instead of experimental yesterday [10:39] Hey [10:39] jiltdil: that way you will get a confirmed solid released product [10:39] ikonia,ok i am tryiong to be in patient, so much excited [10:40] jiltdil: I understand, but if you want the right software, wait for the release to be announced so you can be confident [10:40] ikonia: they probabaly are waiting for all the mirrors to sync. the release annocement will be after that. [10:40] also, is there a way to find out redundant packages and sweep them away? [10:40] nitzs: waiting for many things to be setup [10:40] ikonia, Thanks [10:40] djbenny: that should happen on it's own [10:40] ikonia, but i upgraded the kernel recently and the old one remained on the system [10:41] djbenny: yes, you will always have at least current -1 === dirtydevil__ is now known as dirtydevil [10:41] djbenny: a fall back kernel is part of the upgrade process on the kernel [10:41] Is there any expected release time? Maybe based on previously releases.. [10:41] ikonia, ok makes sense [10:41] Zeny: no, there is not [10:41] okay ty === tarzeau_ is now known as tarzeau [10:43] this is not an ubuntu question but, is it possible from windows to acces a hdd with ubuntu installed? [10:44] http://releases.ubuntu.com/precise/ [10:44] tero yes.. [10:44] tero, pratical answer is no [10:44] Here is the the download link http://releases.ubuntu.com/precise/ [10:44] tero: the guys in ##windows can help [10:44] tero: http://www.fs-driver.org/ [10:44] tero: there are softwares which can access ext2/ext4 filesystems [10:45] Yeh i was gonna say I only saw ext2 one. [10:45] neL: are the ext4 drivers stable? [10:45] ext2 reading software works on ext3 [10:45] Haven't seen ext4 for windows though [10:45] nitzs: I am not sure but the last time I checked, it wasn't [10:45] Ubuntu 12.04? Are we there yet? [10:46] hello [10:46] munim__: no [10:46] nitzs: There have been numerous reports of data loss or corruption [10:46] Morning Ubuntu users [10:46] tero: you proabably should write stuff meant to be shared between windows and uuntu on a NTFS partition. [10:46] sure this question has been asked many times today [10:46] :p [10:46] AndyUbuntu: then don't ask it [10:47] haha [10:47] lol, the legendary ikonia :p [10:47] does anyone have any idea what time 12.04 will release? [10:47] mwally_: there is no set time [10:47] tero: what nitzs said! ntfs-3g is really stable now [10:47] ikonia: i take it youve been getting this question a lot. Thanks :) [10:47] lol, knew the answer would be soon [10:47] lol [10:48] guys, visit www.ubuntu.com - when it's release, you'll see it on the main web page [10:48] apply some common sense [10:48] but I want it now! (sorry) [10:48] or use do-release-upgrade in a terminal and see what it return [10:48] prob best wait till tomorrow [10:48] ikonia: why u banned me? [10:48] MonkeyDust: NO [10:49] says its out today, will take a while though, always does [10:49] MonkeyDust: it will break things horribly. You can downgrade OS once the upgrade process has started [10:49] *can't downgrade [10:49] It will get released at some point today, just wait [10:50] neL ikonia tnx for the warning, glad nothing irreversible happened [10:50] has anyone started using 12.04 yet and if so would it be stable to use consistently? [10:50] http://releases.ubuntu.com/precise/ shows the downloads.. its not saying beta there. [10:50] Yes I use it everyday for a few weeks now [10:50] does is mean its out? [10:50] AndyUbuntu: the feedback from the beta released has been positive. [10:50] neL: you sound like it's updating to skynet. ;) [10:51] lol [10:51] excellent, great to hear thanks :) Always causious about the day of release [10:52] sorry ikonia i sent the PM to wrong person [10:52] ikonia seems to have sand in his/her vagina :-D [10:52] Zwiebelmus: unacceptable - stop now, this is your only warning [10:52] hi there [10:52] Zwiebelmus: This sure doesn't look like ubuntu talk [10:53] is there an package for java runtime on 12.04 ? [10:53] wow. sorry man. you didn't need to kick me. just clarifying why its on the releases page [10:53] can someone send me the offical Ubuntu - Low system requirement version link [10:53] i know there is one..i think it is the LIGHT version [10:53] yellabs-r2: do apt-cache search [10:53] which is release party channel? [10:54] mvineetmenon: #ubuntu+1 [10:54] mvineetmenon: #ubuntu-release-party [10:54] fairuz thx [10:54] oops [10:54] Hi [10:54] didnt realize there was an actual release party channel [10:55] I've a quick questoion: when does release Ubuntu 12.04 LTS? 12:00 UTC? [10:55] *question [10:55] IWorld: no set time [10:55] but today? [10:55] !party [10:55] Please remember that #ubuntu, #kubuntu, #xubuntu, and #edubuntu are support channels. To countdown to !Precise release and then party once it happens, join #ubuntu-release-party - For in-person parties, see http://loco.ubuntu.com/events/global/1598/detail/ [10:56] exit [10:56] Can channel OP please change the channel title to accommodate the release time ? [10:56] neL: there isn't a release time [10:56] I love Ubuntu :-) [10:56] Then put a "please don't panic. It will come soon" [10:56] something of that sort [10:56] the announcement will be put up any moment now. [10:56] no-one reads the topic as you can see, [10:57] nitzs: final warning - you don't know when it will be released, so don't suggest it will be any moment [10:57] * IWorld is excited [10:57] is the plus one channel dead? cant get to it [10:57] sk1special: nope, still there and working [10:57] I see. Whenever the person doing ubuntu.com finishes with homepage, it will be released :D [10:58] lol [10:58] damn it. so. i was using xwinwrap to run a screensaver as my background.. [10:58] and there was this random box named dnd file i think..so of course i just close it.. was like eh whatever.. [10:59] then it force restarted me and now my menus look like there from windows 98 and my admin password to change settings doesnt work.. [10:59] and im getting this message in the terminal xlib extension RANDR missing [10:59] Least it looks like one of the bettwe windows releases :) [11:00] ok, so thought I would ask a poll. What is your preferred way to upgrade? 1. From repo 2. From iso as upgrade or 3. Fresh install ? [11:00] please don't take a poll [11:00] anyone able to help with repairing a broken ubuntu install? [11:00] poll spam [11:00] just curious [11:00] This is a support channel. [11:00] AndyUbuntu: it doesn't matter what the poll output is [11:00] exit [11:00] lpq: what is the problem? [11:01] ok, doesnt matter. would just be interesting [11:01] Anyone know where to get drivers for a my passport drive? [11:02] christhisisgool, uninstalled nvidia drivers, rebooted, now the system immediately enters into powersave mode for the monitor after entering a passphrase [11:02] Naemdar: shouldn't need any [11:02] Naemdar: it should not need any [11:02] i've tried booting into recovery mode through grub, makes no difference [11:02] all the filesystems are rw on linux [11:03] It won't mount for some reason. and its in fat32 perhaps changing the file format? [11:03] lpq: while i will admit that nvidia drivers are not my specialty, maybe either adding a user that is in a different group or upgrading the kernel would help? [11:03] i've tried using a live-cd, swapped xorg.conf with xorg.conf.failsafe, reboot and the os still enters into a powersave mode [11:04] upgrading the kernel might have caused this mess to begin with, that or the recent nvidia update about 10 days ago === mint is now known as tc_ === tc_ is now known as tc_busy [11:05] can any one tell how to configure gui in tinycore [11:05] Or would ntfs be better, I see the ntfs volumes when I go looking for hard drives. Just not going to torrent files to it as its my windows and game drive. [11:06] Naemdar , why would you want in it fat32 anyway ? Ntfs is pretty widely supported........ [11:07] Naemdar: NTFS is the best option if you want r/w support in both linux and windows. [11:07] can any one tell how to configure gui in tinycore [11:07] Last linux I used was lindows and it didn't support ntfs. [11:07] So will redo the volume under windows as ntfs my thanks. [11:08] Naemdar, I think that distro is quite old. I mean back then sure, NTFS support for Linux wasn't complete, and above all, it was read-only [11:08] Thanks to NTFS-3G, you can mount your NTFS partition with read and write support and get it working just fine [11:10] I appreciate it. learned something new today. Linux isn't as scary as it used to be. [11:10] I decided to go dual boot and use linux as my torrent os. [11:10] Naemdar: You'd be surprized how much it changed and how much support it offers. [11:11] i booted from my live usb tinycore4.4 but is like terminal can anyone help me to configure it to gui mode [11:11] Naemdar a friend of mine is more at ease with pcs, now i repaired his win pc with linux [11:11] Naemdar: I installed Red Hat loooong time ago and couldn't do anything in it. And now I don't even need Windows at all. [11:11] so when will 12 be on mirrors [11:11] i booted from my live usb tinycore4.4 but is like terminal can anyone help me to configure it to gui mode [11:12] Unity reminds me a lot of osx which I am very comfortable with. I still need windows for gaming and such but I think I will stick to ubuntu for browsing and such. [11:12] !cinnamon [11:12] tc_busy: this isn't a support channel for Tiny Core Linux. [11:12] is ubuntu 12.04 released yet? [11:12] sallu? [11:12] nitzs: can guide me to one [11:13] salmankhan: seems so [11:13] its on nz ftp === djnilse is now known as djnilse|eat [11:13] @Rurd2di, how can I update from with 11.10? [11:13] Will probably be in here a lot when I start sorting the ati 5770 driver issue but that was back burner to the usb hd. [11:13] nitzs: Rurd2di like???i dont understand [11:13] !release|salmankhan [11:13] salmankhan: Ubuntu releases a new version every 6 months. Each version is supported for 18 months to 5 years. More info at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Releases & http://wiki.ubuntu.com/TimeBasedReleases [11:14] SteveBell: i dont think they have enabled that yet [11:14] that will be tomorrow sometime [11:14] tc_busy: try #tinycorelinux [11:14] ah ok... [11:14] i havent been notifed on any of my boxes yet [11:14] thanks nitzs [11:15] so no 12.04 is out? [11:15] nitzs: no ones responding but thanks a lot [11:16] wahoo [11:16] im leechin all the new iso's [11:16] :D [11:16] Rurd2di, is out? [11:17] it is here [11:17] its on the nz ftp mirror [11:17] ok i check ftp [11:17] Ubuntu 12.04 LTS (Precise Pangolin) [11:17] dont use nz [11:17] what do you mean Rurd2di [11:17] im using it [11:18] :P [11:18] Rurd2di: can you help me to get there nz ftp mirror i dont how to [11:18] here is a list of mirrors: https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+cdmirrors [11:18] guys I'm eagerly waiting to do a dist-upgrade.... when is it going live? [11:19] bhaisahab:next few hours i guess [11:19] bhaisahab i booted from my live usb tinycore4.4 but is like terminal can anyone help me to configure it to gui mode [11:19] isos are out [11:19] Don't they push it back 20 minutes everytime someone asks? Or is that not done anymore? === gh is now known as Guest65984 [11:19] @Rurd2di how would I update my existing 11.10 virtual machine from the isos? [11:19] vuth_: im getting of the nz ftp mirror [11:19] SteveBell: you cant yet === Guest65984 is now known as gh0506 [11:20] wait till the release the dist-upgrade [11:20] tc_busy: no idea man [11:20] should be out next few hours [11:20] cool Rurd2di [11:20] fuck [11:21] im getting so many messages [11:21] if u want the ftp [11:21] pm me [11:21] :) [11:21] nice link: http://iso.qa.ubuntu.com/qatracker/milestones/216/builds [11:21] Rurd2di: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation. [11:21] Rurd2di: please watch your language [11:21] does ubuntu use that replacement to X server yet? can't remember it's name [11:21] wayland maybe [11:21] bhaisahab: big brother right na [11:21] bhaisahab: you saw that movie right mbkd [11:21] grr when will it come out [11:21] bindi: no not yet [11:21] bindi wayland [11:22] tc_busy: +1 [11:22] pedza: its out [11:22] lol [11:22] on ftps [11:22] Rurd2di: no it is not [11:22] hmmm [11:22] gimme [11:22] :) [11:22] yeah [11:22] its on citylink mirror [11:22] it is out [11:22] wait for the final!! [11:22] derp [11:22] 12.04 download url? [11:22] http://releases.ubuntu.com/precise/ [11:22] Rurd2di it's not released yet [11:22] yeah [11:22] bhaisahab: whats this nz ftp thing [11:22] <`36`> https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/ubuntu-announce/2012-April/thread.html [11:22] yeah not yet [11:22] thar it is [11:22] Tm_T: well why is it on the citylink mirror [11:23] how about xubuntu [11:23] i need to install it on a netbook... [11:23] Rurd2di: it's released when it's announced, mirrors might have precopy to ease the final sync [11:23] Tm_T: what is this ftp thing nz.... [11:23] tc_busy: what do you want to know about ftp? [11:23] what about lubuntu [11:24] no releases yet, and continue on #ubuntu-release-party about the release please [11:24] bhaisahab: what is this thing going on here ftp thing how to get into it [11:24] tc_busy: see my message above [11:25] impossibile situation!! I've just found the only PC in the world where Lubuntu+Chromium go jerkily!! !!! AAAAAAAARGHHH [11:25] AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA [11:25] there are 7872 channels my god this is huge [11:25] tc_busy: I've no idea ask whoever is offering you downloads via ftp... ftp is just another protocol but for file transfers, I prefer rsync though [11:25] Do you think that a kernel-recompilation would change the situation? [11:25] bhaisahab: ok thanks i am new here [11:26] if you check my above link you can read "testing" status currently [11:26] oh btw here's the download for lubuntu [11:26] http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/lubuntu/releases/12.04/release/ [11:26] but who knows.. [11:26] still cant find xubuntu ;/ [11:27] pedza, lubuntu ? [11:28] @didou, yes the link is for lubuntu [11:28] ok [11:28] tc_busy: hey bro chill, feel free to ask; ask away anything... you use ubuntu as your default box? [11:29] heeeelp [11:29] I need linux driver for Atheros AR5B95 and I cant seem to find [11:29] impossibile situation!! I've just found the only PC in the world where Lubuntu+Chromium go jerkily!! !!! AAAAAAAARGHHH [11:29] Do you think that a kernel-recompilation would change the situation? [11:30] Hello, can someone please recommend me on good server adminstration panel for Ubuntu? so I can manage all my domains, bandwidth etc... [11:30] angel282: webmin [11:30] nannes please don't 'aaa...' [11:30] bhaisahab: no i temporarily use mint 12 live but i have ubuntu 11.04 iso but my dvd burner went crashing and dont know how to make live usb [11:31] tc_busy: you can download unetbootin [11:31] or from a windows box use pendrivelinux [11:31] bhaisahab: also i downloaded tinycore 11.9 mb only for fun but now i want to set it to GUI mode and dont know how [11:31] I did a reformat of the usb drive to ntfs. is there a command I need to run to get it to recognize? [11:32] smittix: great, do you know some guide how to install webmin? [11:32] tc_busy: easy one, use netbootin or startup disk creator... esaiest way : dd if=path-to-iso of=/dev/sdx where sdx is your pen drive [11:32] tokinwhiteman: as of now I have decided to completely turn to linux i want to do it on linux [11:32] bhaisahab: thanks [11:33] that seems great [11:33] i will try [11:33] I need linux driver for Atheros AR5B95 and I cant seem to find [11:34] tc_busy: alternatively go to ubuntu.com's download page and selecte how to install using usb or something like that IIRC [11:34] angel282: There will be plenty out there. I would go directly to their website and check what they have first. http://www.webmin.com/deb.html [11:34] pedza, release yet :) [11:34] !bcm| W2764687 start here [11:34] W2764687 start here: Wireless documentation can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs [11:34] ok bhaisahab [11:34] did 12.04 drop yet? [11:34] thx [11:34] i know it's scheduled for today [11:34] wcchandler: releases.ubuntu.com/precise [11:35] let's try new 12.04 !! [11:35] yeah it did [11:36] damn i should fallback on arch linux, just ubuntu makes stuff easier and brain dead [11:36] bhaisahab: i tried but how to give the path of my iso its on the ntfs partition [11:36] I think we should wait for it to be official, that link might not be pointing to the correct iso http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1965723 [11:36] bhaisahab: i tried but how to give the path of my iso its on the ntfs partition [11:37] babai, it is dated 26.04 [11:37] babai: yeah, that's why i didn't get it yet.. figured it was just a nightly build [11:37] tc_busy: examepl: sudo dd if=/media/mydrive/ubuntusss.iso of=/dev/sdxx [11:37] bhaisahab: can you suggest me some books on linux [11:37] wcchandler: also the trackers for torrents are not synced [11:37] bhaisahab: can you suggest me some books on linux [11:37] tc_busy: sudo fdisk -l to identify what /dev/sdxx is your usb drive [11:38] babai: yeah, the ML said the mirrors are all synced [11:38] tc_busy: google.com, staart with kernelcommand.org or was it .com if you're completely new to all this stuff [11:38] bhaisahab: last time i checked the dd method didn't worked for ubuntu [11:39] thanks bhaisahab [11:39] wcchandler: so thats final [11:39] and can be downloaded [11:39] tc_busy: your welcome hope it works for you [11:39] tc_busy get to master the command line [11:39] i doubt you will look any better seteh [11:40] MonkeyDust: thank you [11:41] how do I make ubuntu cleanly get rid of my old kernels, ramdisks in /boot [11:41] Ztane I use the 3rd party app ubuntu-tweak to that end [11:42] bhaisahab: such a site doesnt exist === amir__ is now known as Guest42132 [11:43] can you suggest some pdfs for it [11:43] MonkeyDust: ok will try [11:43] bhaisahab: ^ [11:43] * _r00t_ wonders how you check if an ugrade is available without doing a do-release-upgrade [11:44] tc_busy: google, okay I did not tell you this... get all the good stuff off flazx.us [11:44] hi [11:44] ok bhaisahab [11:44] when will 12.04 be released? [11:45] it was [11:45] pedza, when? [11:45] gribouille: only the guys at ubuntu know that. [11:45] tc_busy: yeah man typo on my part, it is linuxcommand.org/ [11:45] http://releases.ubuntu.com/precise/ [11:45] there [11:45] it's a really good place to start learning some basic commands [11:46] pedza: isos are on mirrors [11:46] bhaisahab: thankyou I will check [11:46] but they havent done final sync yet [11:46] I thought it would be released on the 28th [11:46] from what i have been told [11:46] nope, today [11:46] pedza: it's not out yet, there is no release announcement. Please don't paste links. [11:47] pedza, that's not what https://wiki.ubuntu.com/PrecisePangolin/ReleaseSchedule says [11:47] well it is the official release date and that is a page on their website [11:47] * bhaisahab going to dist-upgrade now, seems like files are showing up [11:47] 26th of april is the release date as far as i know [11:47] bhaisahab: flazx.us site is great really [11:47] pedza: but it's not announced released yet, so it's not out yet. [11:47] but it is [11:48] I ANNOUNCE UBUNTU IS OUT. there we go its official now YEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEAH [11:48] it is out but an announcement hasnt been released yet [11:48] yay [11:48] GiveUbuntuNOW: are you trolling? [11:48] Has 12.04 gotten released yet ? [11:48] pedza: no, it's not. and this discussion is something that you can't win. [11:49] heh [11:49] Kriss3d: no. [11:49] pedza: you'll prolly get banned if you start arguing. [11:49] ah ok.. but its today right ? [11:49] It's not out until it's out. [11:49] yes released [11:49] Kriss3d: probably [11:49] im not arguing im stating the obvious.. [11:49] tc_busy: no. [11:49] Just because you can see the ISO doesn't mean its out. [11:49] Oh i thought today was the big release date [11:50] it is [11:50] pedza: there still might be respins and resyncs into the mirrors === shunyiyi is now known as hutu [11:50] but they havent made the announcement yet [11:50] Kriss3d: It is, but it's not officially out yet. [11:50] pedza: so keeping that in mind, it's not out until the announcement is done. [11:50] You risk using unsynched mirrors etc. [11:50] ah ok.. ill try to sit on my thumb then [11:50] Myrtti: if this is the popularity of ubuntu, no offence I am kinda new to linux trying to learn, wont the server be overly crowded [11:50] Myrtti: if this is the popularity of ubuntu, no offence I am kinda new to linux trying to learn, wont the server be overly crowded [11:51] tc_busy: yes. so you should use the torrents. [11:51] ubuntu 12 today? [11:51] tc_busy: mirrors and torrents will be in action [11:51] its suppsoed to yes. [11:51] blez: yes, but not yet. [11:51] !party [11:51] Please remember that #ubuntu, #kubuntu, #xubuntu, and #edubuntu are support channels. To countdown to !Precise release and then party once it happens, join #ubuntu-release-party - For in-person parties, see http://loco.ubuntu.com/events/global/1598/detail/ [11:51] ok Myrtti and nitzs [11:51] are there partys arranged [11:52] Myrtti: my ? [11:52] the release announcement is out. [11:52] Myrtti: my ? [11:52] im mostly concerned if 12.04 will still have unity or if they finally ditched it [11:52] check out ubuntu.com [11:52] it is [11:52] awesome [11:52] Kriss3d: unity stay [11:52] Kriss3d: unity is ubuntus default shell for the future [11:53] urg.. major setback.. oh well.. its linux.. i get to decide how my x looks.. [11:53] in ubuntu everything is preloaded right then fow to set up things in arch linux or puppylinux [11:53] http://www.ubuntu.com/ [11:53] and so [11:53] So everyone Ubuntu 12.04 LTS is officially out. [11:53] it has been released [11:53] pedza: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation. [11:53] tc_busy: sorry what ? [11:53] nitzs: still no email on the mailing list, so it's not. [11:54] * pedza seeds the torrent [11:54] Hello, for some reason, last night my computer was turning off after running for about 5 minutes... [11:54] Kriss3d: you have many choices berween de or wm [11:54] *between [11:54] de ? wm ? [11:54] like i downloaded tinycore can i setup GUI in it its really light only trying to know things ikonia [11:55] out [11:55] guys [11:55] like i downloaded tinycore can i setup GUI in it its really light only trying to know things ikonia [11:55] Kriss3d: desktop environment window manager [11:55] tc_busy: not sure how that has any relevence, [11:55] will kubuntu be released at the same time as ubuntu today? [11:55] ask #kubuntu [11:55] ah.. zvacet yeah.. im used to gnome so i configured 11.10 to look like gnome2 [11:56] works just fine for me.. but i might try somthing more daring in that direction [11:56] ikonia i mean how to setup wireless graphics gui in light weight distributions [11:56] tc_busy: if you want to custumize your ubuntu you can try ubuntu minimal [11:56] wireless graphics ? [11:56] you don't need "minimal" [11:56] just change what you want [11:56] http://www.ubuntu.com/start-download?distro=desktop&bits=32&release=lts ? [11:56] I haz it. [11:56] Site off-line [11:56] there is no need for special installs [11:57] ikonia look in tiny core in ifconfig command there is no wlan0 but i have wifi device so [11:57] tc_busy: so ? [11:57] Kriss3d: like ikonia said unity is ubuntu shell for future but you can install some other de if you like [11:57] ikonia so how to set it up to make my wifi device run [11:58] tc_busy: you just said you had wireless [11:58] Is this for a PC or a Mac http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/releases/12.04/release/ubuntu-12.04-alternate-amd64+mac.iso ?? [11:58] CyberWorld: 64bit mac [11:58] oops [11:58] delusr_: 64bit mac [11:58] is there a big difference between installing the beta 2 + upgrading, vs installing the release when it comes out today? [11:58] Wheres the PC version? [11:58] anyone know why banshee isn't playing anything for me? I get the error "GStreamer resource error: NotFound" [11:58] ikonia right now i am using cable connection [11:58] urlwolf: no [11:58] zvacet yeah. [11:59] : nitzs: thanks [11:59] urlwolf, upgrading from the beta2 is almost the same [11:59] delusr_: not been released yet, that's why all the people screaming "it's out" look foolish [11:59] big difference between installing kubuntu vs ubuntu + kde-full? [12:00] urlwolf: ubuntu = gnome kubuntu = kde [12:00] urlwolf: beta with all updates will get you to final release [12:00] yes, I want kde [12:00] UPDATE THE TOPIC [12:00] NICBM: no [12:00] but kubuntu has removed the beta isos [12:00] urlwolf: you'd be better off installing kubuntu than going the longer route. [12:00] ikonia: why? [12:00] so I'm thinking go ubuntu + kde [12:00] no idea why [12:00] NICBM: because nothing has changed [12:00] urlwolf: ????? just install kubuntu [12:00] Hi I have performed a ubuntu upgrade to 11.04 but my wi-fi connection is not working properly "wlan0" device is not showing among the network devices [12:01] there are no kubuntu isos that I can find [12:01] right now [12:01] O_o [12:01] urlwolf: wait for the release. [12:01] ikonia I think your a fool have you not seen there homepage?? [12:01] Doh, download site is down.. [12:01] delusr_: I have seen the home page [12:01] ikonia: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/PrecisePangolin/ReleaseNotes/ [12:01] delusr_: It _hasn'nt_ been released until the release email has been sent! [12:01] delusr_: have you seen the links it links to.....oh wait, it's broken because IT's NOT OUT [12:01] hehe Downloading ubuntu i get error : site offline [12:01] NICBM: yeah, and ? [12:01] ok, the ubuntu home page is updated [12:02] its the same in here every new release day.. stay calm... [12:02] lots of dling [12:02] subdesign: That's because it's not out yet. [12:02] horah! [12:02] its offical now [12:02] hehe yes its out [12:02] Rurd2di: no it's not [12:02] subdesign: no it's not [12:02] http://releases.ubuntu.com/precise/ubuntu-12.04-desktop-i386.iso.torrent [12:02] refresh mate [12:02] Is Unity usable in 12.04?? [12:02] do you need a screenshot ? [12:02] NICBM: try it, see how you like it [12:02] urlwolf: if you don't want to wait for new kubuntu release you can do this http://www.psychocats.net/ubuntu/purekde [12:02] http://www.ubuntu.com/ officially released! :) [12:03] NICBM: i found it useable in 11.10 [12:03] subdesign: go to ubuntu.com and use the link to download. and you will find that it 404's [12:03] just chill it wont be long now. [12:03] the channel is now muted [12:03] the ubuntu servers are being updated and prepared for the release. it is NOT out until the release manager states so [12:03] anyone posting links or suggesting it's out when it's not - will be removed [12:03] smittix, site is overloaded , not about not released [12:04] ok [12:04] subdesign: Please read ikonia's statement. [12:04] FACT. [12:04] release time? [12:04] whats muted? [12:04] cheking [12:04] subdesign: a 404 does not mean an overload.. [12:04] any actual support issues? [12:04] tc_busy: it means can't talk in the channel [12:05] smittix, for me not 404, i have Drupal error site off-line [12:05] ikonia: well ubuntu.com says its out [12:05] subdesign: well duh... [12:05] whatever [12:05] we wait [12:05] Exactly. [12:05] 12.04 stable? [12:05] thanks ikonia we've met second time [12:05] Help? [12:05] arg, how do i disable entered and leave notifications in pidgin? === yofel_ is now known as yofel [12:06] Zeny: its a plugin you enable i think [12:06] Zeny: you may want to try xchat instead [12:06] Please see - https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/ubuntu-announce/2012-April/000159.html [12:06] hmm arrrha, sounds like it should be a setting, (which i cant find x) [12:07] ubuntu 12.04 is released [12:07] yay [12:07] there you go, release mail 2 minutes ago [12:07] Yah okay, just seam redundant to have 10x software with the same functionality. [12:07] pidgin in not a great irc client [12:07] gribouille, #ubuntu-release-party * ChanServ has changed the topic to: Ubuntu 12.04 (Precise Pangolin) is released! [12:07] i know now =) [12:07] but why isn't it included in http://changelogs.ubuntu.com/meta-release ? [12:07] when it got released? [12:07] my irssi just died dr-willis [12:08] the site is down though. [12:08] Rurd2di: i use weechat [12:08] ikonia did it release? [12:08] Is there a way to automatically set file permissions to 770, when I create a new file, on NFS? [12:08] tc_busy: according to that email [12:08] party hurray [12:08] fortunly i got my torrent file just moments before the ubuntu site went down :D [12:08] Multiply: look at file creation mask [12:08] Download worked :) [12:09] ikonia: I'll look it up, thanks. [12:09] like i said overcrowded [12:09] can ubuntu get leaked before being officially launched [12:10] tc_busy, its out [12:10] think not. why? [12:10] hi bazhang [12:10] nz ftp on citylink is holding up ok [12:10] when will update manager offer 12.04? [12:10] Should/can PC users the image ubuntu-12.04-desktop-amd64+mac.iso? Or is it only for mac? [12:10] tc_busy: if you updated and upgraded earlier today it would been same as the released [12:10] lxgrx, when your mirrors are synced, I'd imagine [12:10] lxgrx: when the servers can handle it [12:10] tc_busy: the development of ubuntu is not behind closed doors. so it can never get 'leaked'. [12:10] dr-willis: thanks [12:11] lxgrx: I'd advise not updating for a day or so as if the servers lose connection during the upgrade (while it's busy) you'll be in a mess [12:11] jeinor, its fine for PCs [12:11] nitzs: thats deep [12:11] thats how i normally do a new release [12:11] I tried to report a bug in ubuntu 12.04 but I think I messed it up (https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/apache2/+bug/988819) [12:11] Launchpad bug 988819 in apache2 (Ubuntu) "wrong path to libxml2.so.2 in mod_security" [Undecided,New] [12:11] ikonia, does that mean when https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+archivemirrors shows most/all of the servers green? [12:11] can anyone give me a hint how to target the bug report to ubuntu 12.04? [12:11] bazhang, ok, thanks. Whats the difference between ubuntu-12.04-desktop-amd64+mac.iso and ubuntu-12.04-dvd-amd64.iso then? [12:11] ikonia but it says that nothing affects linux even while udating [12:11] lxgrx: that means they are synced, however I'd advise against upgrading today [12:11] Its up and working now. [12:12] tc_busy: what is "it" [12:12] Can everyone hold off until I have downloaded the ISO. :) [12:12] ikonia, i'll try and resist :) thanks [12:12] ooh, front page has 12.04 on downloads [12:12] lxgrx: is up to you, it's just advise from experience [12:12] * Death_Syn snags torrents [12:12] smittix: use torrents [12:12] i read a pdf linux vs windows [12:12] jeinor, more language packs and a bit more I suppose [12:12] tc_busy: doesn't affect it, but to take advantage of a new kernel you need to boot it [12:13] bazhang: thanks for the info. Only me who is missing an i386 release on http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/releases/12.04/release/? [12:13] upgrading the kernel doesn't necessitate a reboot though [12:13] ok fl1bbl3 [12:13] tc_busy: then that pdf is wrong [12:13] tc_busy, Do you have a link to that PDF? [12:13] fl1bbl3: yes it does [12:13] no it doesn't [12:13] well i think i can send one [12:13] fl1bbl3: yes it does [12:13] Yes plz [12:13] jeinor, may take a few minutes, it's been like 5 mins since release, after all [12:13] Millenaire: ^ [12:13] http://www.ubuntu.com/download/desktop/alternative-downloads [12:13] Death_Syn: why are you posting that ? [12:13] so I can't have two entries in grub pointing to different kernel levels then? [12:14] fl1bbl3: of course you can [12:14] people, for the download, use the torrent file! [12:14] bazhang: ah, I didn't know. thought it was released earlier today :) [12:14] somebody couldn't find the image he needed on the cdimage [12:14] fl1bbl3: you can have as many kernels installed as you want [12:14] i was showing the link for the torrents [12:14] though it doesn't look like anyone is seeding yet [12:14] ikonia: I know [12:14] thanks :) [12:14] oh [12:14] amd64 desktop is coming down [12:14] yay! [12:15] fl1bbl3: so why did you just ask if you could do that ? [12:15] ikonia: I can install new kernel files without rebooting, but I can't use that new kernel without a reboot [12:15] fl1bbl3: apologies if I'm missing the question [12:15] it is. at least i am downloading amd64 and is doing good. [12:15] Oh look the site just went back up [12:15] fl1bbl3: yes, so updating the kernel does need a reboot [12:15] ikonia: no, _using_ the new kernel needs a reboot [12:15] always having an average of 150 kbs [12:15] oh dear, pointless word play [12:16] ubuntu tried to hotswap the kernels two years ago or so [12:16] I'm going to install kubuntu from http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/kubuntu/dvd/current/ [12:16] please stop me if this is a bad idea [12:16] ikonia: its not pointless, tc_busy was referring to comparison with windows, where a service pack install needs a full reboot always [12:16] urlwolf: why use dvd [12:16] urlwolf: why would it be a bad idea? [12:16] fl1bbl3: yes and a kernel install needs a reboot [12:16] wait [12:16] or it's a pointless task, it's just a file on the machine that's not being used with none of the updates [12:17] I was pointing out that if you choose to update the files, you have a choice whether to reboot or not depending on when you want to use the new functionality of the new kernel [12:17] as you do with windows you can chose when you reboot after a service pack install [12:17] new apps may not work untill new kernel is used.... [12:18] https://www.facebook.com/ubuntulinux/posts/441913515834848 is this a fake page ? [12:18] Here we go, one gig dormitory upload added to torrent pool :) [12:18] i mean the facebook one [12:18] doda: who cares, [12:18] yeah! thanks! [12:18] hello, is this precise now? [12:18] so it is released [12:18] ITS here! [12:18] yep [12:18] facebook typo is lulz (ubuntu official page) [12:18] ikonia accept my request [12:19] how do you add applications to autostart in Gnome3? [12:19] heh, the FB announcement... [12:19] can an op change the topic [12:19] tc_busy: what request ? [12:19] neL: yeah, just saw that... someone hasn't had enough coffee [12:19] drussell: sure [12:19] we're supporting 12.04 here now [12:19] fl1bbl3: i am sending u a file [12:19] :o) [12:19] !autorun [12:19] pretty sure you aren't [12:19] ikonia i am trying to send u a file [12:19] Ubuntu 12.04 is LAUNCHED!!! Get it here: www.ubunut.com <-- oops [12:19] fl1 1 min please [12:19] haha [12:19] tc_busy: I don't want a file thanks [12:19] dr-willis, not sure if autorun == autostart [12:20] sorry for this question, but is my 12.04 beta automatically updated to full release, or do i need to do it manually? [12:20] sending a file? === Spliffy is now known as Spliffster [12:20] Gnea: for some strange reason, I thought it was intentional === hugo is now known as Guest98437 [12:20] the fb announcment is on a page named ubuntulinux, which seems fake [12:20] Wolfsherz, just keep update/upgrade, and you'll be there === Spliffster is now known as Spliffy056 [12:20] Wolfsherz: the latest updates ought to bring it up to speed [12:20] a pdf file? seriously, how dumb do you think I am? [12:20] Wolfsherz: it will ask you to upgrade to a new version of the distro [12:20] fl1bbl3: i am using xchat its showing waiting === ikonia changed the topic of #ubuntu to: Official Ubuntu Support Channel | IRC Guidelines: http://ubottu.com/y/gl | IRC info: http://ubottu.com/y/irc | Pastes to http://paste.ubuntu.com/ | Release Notes: http://ubottu.com/y/rn | Download: http://ubottu.com/y/dl | Currently supporting 10.04 LTS, 11.04, 11.10 and 12.04 LTS. [12:20] ok ikonia [12:21] Wolfsherz: update manager will do it :) [12:21] tc_busy: nice ;o) [12:21] tc_busy: upload it somewhere [12:21] thank you bazhang, Gnea, doda and zvacet =) [12:21] !pastebin | tc_busy [12:21] tc_busy: For posting multi-line texts into the channel, please use http://paste.ubuntu.com | To post !screenshots use http://imagebin.org/?page=add | !pastebinit to paste directly from command line | Make sure you give us the URL for your paste - see also the channel topic. [12:21] I'm not reading a PDF from an unknown host immaterial of where you put it [12:21] ok [12:21] fl1bbl3: you could always use clamscan on it [12:22] Gnea: lol, very funny [12:22] yeah "ubunut" was a long shot guys :D [12:22] https://www.facebook.com/ubuntulinux should i report this page ? [12:22] :) [12:22] because AV is awesome and always finds nasty stuff in pdf's [12:22] tc_busy: please upload it somewhere if you are so desparate to send it to someone. [12:22] doda: no, someone just made a typo === UFan is now known as UFan_Downloading [12:22] http://www.ubunut.com/ <- is this a fake website or what? [12:22] yes [12:23] nitzs no i said a failed update wont afect linux only that [12:23] how do you add applications to autostart in precise? [12:23] affect*8 [12:23] and that typo actually exists. [12:23] Gnea: ok [12:23] what is the official fb page ? [12:23] a7x: download from http://releases.ubuntu.com/precise/ [12:23] The torrents just kicked in for me [12:24] a7x: and use torrent if you can,please [12:24] tc_busy, If you could upload the file somewhere, I'd like the PDF [12:24] Urg.. ubuntu.com is down.. or at least very slow [12:24] zvacet, gonna run the update, i'm not gonna download the whole thing. [12:24] why aren't there any md5 hashes on the official download page? [12:24] Kriss3d: Ubuntu.com is SLOW. [12:24] yeah [12:24] I think torrent is the best soloution. [12:24] a7x: ok good luck [12:24] Is there any way to see how much you have uploaded via torrent? (Online, not in client) [12:24] im at work. cant do torrents [12:25] updateing basucally does download the wjole thing [12:25] Well , there are mirrors. [12:25] helo [12:25] ty [12:25] am i in [12:25] probably you answered this question... but someone please tell me [12:26] in an hr or so tirrents will be blazeing fast. [12:26] a7x:np :) [12:26] why download [12:26] link don't work [12:26] im on xubuntu, do i still count as ubuntu user? :P [12:26] for ubuntu 12.04 :) [12:26] stoneman: server overload [12:26] aa clear now :) [12:26] stoneman: get a torrent or wait [12:26] lestus: yeah :D [12:26] can't wait [12:26] People, if I've downloaded the dailies from yesterday (actually dated 12/04/23 for the most part) are we 99.9% sure the ISOs are the same? I want to do a mini-install party at the local cafe but don't want to wait to download them again today if I don't have to [12:26] torret >>>> [12:27] everybody should use torrents [12:27] lestus: well, it is hard to say ;) [12:27] hehe kewl [12:27] hi. I want to install ubuntu on 5 pcs and I need to do it simoultaneously. I don't want to burn 5CDs. how could i do that? [12:27] samfisher: netboot install [12:27] from one pc on the lan [12:28] someone can tell me the difference between ubuntu and kubuntu ? which is the best ? [12:28] hey Gnea can you give me link for 64 bit ubuntu 12.04 torrent? [12:28] !apt-cacher === Lebby1 is now known as Lebby [12:28] bounty: use both. you decide [12:28] bounty: same os but different desktop environments [12:29] bounty: they have same core but different windows environment [12:29] !insrall [12:29] dr-willis: do I need a server? [12:29] i can install both ? [12:29] stoneman: http://releases.ubuntu.com/precise/ [12:29] dr-willis: and can I preconfigure the Ubuntu? so it will install the same config on all? [12:29] bounty: K-ubuntu use Kde. Ubuntu use gnome [12:29] samfisher: with some work.. yes [12:30] ok [12:30] WHat is a good backup program to use on ubuntu servers? [12:30] !install [12:30] i thought that is corrent just to check is it a final version... :) [12:30] Ubuntu can be installed in lots of ways. Please see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation for documentation. Problems during install? See https://wiki.ubuntu.com/CommonProblemsInstall - Don't want to use a CD? See http://tinyurl.com/3exghs - See also !automate [12:30] bounty: ubuntu uses unity windows shell (the look and feel of the desktop + gnome apps), while kubuntu uses plasma shell + kde apps, they are only the toppings of a common base and you can use them both on a same system [12:31] Hi. I downloaded the .deb for an alternate broadcom driver after checking the error message from being unable to connect. How do I place it so that additional drivers installs from that deb instead of trying to download? Thanks. [12:31] so i can install ubuntu and then decide to use kde or gnome ? [12:31] Hi. [12:31] pietro10: you dont as far as i know. [12:32] pietro10: install the deb. hope it works [12:32] Hi, I have 12.04 beta 2, do I need to upgrade it? if yes, how? [12:32] or use its ppa if it exists [12:32] dr-willis: so what can I do? before I could only get online if I booted into windows first, but thanks to a file somehow magically corrupting (???) I'll have to wait until I can get a working CD drive... [12:32] :/ [12:32] bounty ofcourse.. you can pick anything you like.. i removed unity in 11.10 and installed gnome 3 to make it look like gnome2 [12:32] https://twitter.com/#!/Linux/status/195484423708360704 [12:32] gogo update ubuntu [12:32] bounty: yeah, you can install it [12:32] Narsil: id wait a day or two [12:33] bounty: yes, you can always do that. sudo apt-get install kubuntu-desktop will install kde and sudo apt-get install gnome-shell will install gnome shell [12:33] bounty: install ubunut and then you can add kde witch is desktop environment for kubuntu see http://www.psychocats.net/ubuntu/kde [12:33] is there a database of what commands jockey will run when I choose to install the driver? [12:33] pietro10: boot from usb perhaps [12:33] ok i try , tnx [12:34] Is there a way to check which version a specific package in 12.04 is, without running 12.04? [12:34] dr-willis, ok, thanks. [12:34] I can't right now; this is a connectivity issue anyway [12:34] pietro10: i imagine it does a simple apt-get install whatwver [12:34] look at you guys rolling out ahead of schedule. Good job. [12:34] ok [12:35] is there a separate channel for UEC? [12:35] !uec [12:35] wonder what uec is [12:35] Is ubuntu 12.04 supported here now? [12:35] Ztane: #ubuntu-server [12:36] hello there.. [12:36] Multiply: Of course [12:36] hi all - I have 10.04 installed now and am hoping to install 12.04 by overwriting the / and other partitions but leave /home alone so keep the data - is this ok or should it be done a different way? [12:36] Steevca: Of course. Read the topic. [12:36] Oh,i missed that. [12:36] Shape: Well, how? :P [12:36] hi all is there an av that will activly watch and scan a directory avast apears to be manual [12:36] i got a problem with libquvi.. Namely is 0.2.15 and i need 0.4.0 [12:36] Steevca: your home is on its own partition? [12:36] any ideas? [12:36] hi, does someone have a torrent for ubuntu-12.04-dvd-amd64.iso ? can't find that anywhere. [12:37] dr-willis: yes its separate partition - basically 20gb for / and swap..... and then the rest of the disk /home [12:37] avij: why bovver? a lot faster to download the iso image from the ubuntu site [12:37] steveccc: thats doable then [12:37] ubuntu site doesn't work for me... [12:37] why not? [12:38] steveccc: then you can do want you asked [12:38] http://www.ubuntu.com/download/desktop/alternative-downloads [12:38] dr-willis: is ext4 the standard partition now? [12:38] Ok,so i have 11.10 now,and when i used the live cd i couldn't connect to the internet,network manager couldn't detect the netwrok.So,can i install wicd on 11.10 and the upadte to 12.04 with upate manager,without going back to network manager? [12:38] faster to use torrents [12:38] dr-willis: lol [12:38] anybody got a mirror for the 64 bit live cd iso? [12:38] i just get 'waiting for www.ubuntu.com...' in my browser... [12:38] MD5s, for whoever asked: http://releases.ubuntu.com/precise/MD5SUMS [12:38] steveccc: has been for sime time [12:38] jas4711: doyou want to download? [12:38] running do-release-upgrade here [12:39] Gorilla_No_Baka: I'd need the torrent for my torrent seedbox. I'm not planning to install it. [12:39] they should scale ubuntu.com instead of fixing bugs [12:39] :P [12:39] Oh man. [12:39] zvacet, yes. any link to some usable site will be appreciated :-) [12:39] dr-willis: I think my 10.04 is ext3 - is there a convenient way to upgrade or is it a matter of backing up data, formatting and then restoring? [12:39] Multiply: http://packages.ubuntu.com/precise/ [12:39] Somebody can paste me the torrent link from their site ? [12:39] It's stuck for me. [12:39] Multiply: All I had to do was google "ubuntu packages" :) Google is your friend. [12:39] jas4711: http://releases.ubuntu.com/precise/ and use torrent please [12:39] does anybody have a magnet link for the 12.04 images? [12:40] ftp://mirrors.supsec.org/pub/linux/ubuntu-releases/12.04 [12:40] hello [12:40] i thought they were going to recommend 64-bit for desktops, but when I managed to access www.ubuntu.com it preferred 32-bit. is 32-bit preferred for desktops? [12:40] buzzkill: thanks :) [12:40] anyone , or are they all manual [12:40] jas4711: normally it should changed to amd64, yes [12:40] i dont have enough space on my disk to update Ubuntu precise pengolin [12:40] When i want to run wicd i get : rename failed. [12:40] not sure if it is what you were looking for wcchandler. but it is direct [12:40] do i must reinstall it? [12:40] jas4711: that was my last info i got [12:40] ...and now I'm not seeing *any* connections? [12:40] jas4711: depends of your comp [12:40] Well, should I run 32 bit or 64 bit ? [12:40] or just run gparted to try to resize partition? [12:41] x43L0Pr7: 64bit if your cpu can do it [12:41] hey if i have the 12.04 final beta installed, do i need to do any updates? the software center says up to date [12:41] iceroot: OK. [12:41] 10x. [12:41] x43L0Pr7 if you have 64 bit hardware, you can use 64bit [12:41] I will. [12:41] tokinwhiteman: then you have 12.04 final [12:41] gello [12:41] can somebody paste me the torrent link for 64 bit ? [12:41] ok let's try again [12:41] hello [12:41] lol [12:41] I can't enter Ubuntu.co [12:41] !torrents | x43L0Pr7 [12:41] x43L0Pr7: Precise can be torrented from http://torrent.ubuntu.com/simple/precise/desktop/ubuntu-12.04-desktop-i386.iso.torrent or http://torrent.ubuntu.com/simple/precise/server/ubuntu-12.04-server-amd64.iso.torrent depending on your needs. Other flavors can be found at http://torrent.ubuntu.com/ [12:41] My wireless - BCM4312 - will not work unless I boot into Windows first. How do I fix it? Thanks. [12:41] What servers are for CS 1.6 GTH's? [12:41] thanks :) [12:41] tokinwhiteman: use updates to get final release [12:42] ftp://mirrors.supsec.org/pub/linux/ubuntu-releases/12.04/ubuntu-12.04-desktop-amd64.iso.torrent [12:42] Oh YEAHH ! [12:42] hi all.. is there something wrong with the installer? I have reached the final stage: "Any questions?" and it seems to be downloading some stuff from the internet as i can see the wireless light blinking on my laptop [12:42] i don;t really see any activity: neither on the usb stick with the live iso nor on the hdd of the laptop [12:43] if i have a copy of 12.04 release candidate from a week ago downloaded - is there any point getting the full iso now or should i just use that and upgrade? [12:43] almost feels like it is simply downloading the twitter feed and making me wait for no reason [12:43] upgrade / update [12:43] Is everybody doing a fresh install since everybody is downloading ISO. People don't have faith on dist-upgrade o_O [12:43] steveccc: the apt-get update/upgrade says im up to date [12:43] steveccc: just do updates and you will be fine [12:43] I have little faith in the upgrade process [12:44] steveccc: redownload the full iso or use the beta iso and dist-upgrade [12:44] when can we expect Lubuntu? Ubuntu is out [12:44] guys, I dont have enough space to install Precise Pengolin, do i must reinstall all from zero? or just use Gpartition to enable more disk space? which solution do you suggest me? [12:44] yassu: lubuntu is out too [12:44] !torrents [12:44] Precise can be torrented from http://torrent.ubuntu.com/simple/precise/desktop/ubuntu-12.04-desktop-i386.iso.torrent or http://torrent.ubuntu.com/simple/precise/server/ubuntu-12.04-server-amd64.iso.torrent depending on your needs. Other flavors can be found at http://torrent.ubuntu.com:6969 [12:44] derspankster: why ? I curious. Does it break various packages ? [12:44] guys, so i must download the iso if my beta can be final release?? [12:44] yassu: http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/lubuntu/releases/12.04/release/ [12:44] neL: Or some people want to start all over because the system is all cluttered with stuff from experimenting. [12:45] neL: last three upgrades I've don have been do-release-upgrade with no real problems but I'll be waiting a few days this time [12:45] I just installed the beta 2, and did some configs, I wouldn't install it again... [12:45] Shape: That sounds like a fair reason [12:45] how my beta can be final release guys? [12:45] iceroot, thanks [12:46] !final | Bennlucky7 [12:46] Bennlucky7: If you install a development version of Ubuntu Precise and keep up with package updates, then you will be upgraded to the official release of 12.04 when it comes out. To make sure, type « sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get dist-upgrade » in a terminal. Discussion and support in #ubuntu+1. [12:46] somsip: I too wait for sometime always. somehow breaking production or developments environments is not a good thing [12:46] Narsil: jusy update your system [12:46] Bennlucky7: update magic [12:46] *just [12:46] damn people keep ddosing ubuntu.com :D [12:46] neL: But yeah, I do agree that I would prefer a fresh install even if it wasn't cluttered. The reason is if something doesn't work or something goes weird, I can always rule out some bug caused by the upgrade. [12:46] My wireless - BCM4312 - will not work unless I boot into Windows first. The OpenWRT 4312mod thing won't let me connect to anything; the official Broadcom drivers show no connections at all.How do I fix it? Thanks. [12:46] okay yhx [12:46] neL: zactly - I have a long weekend this weekend so I'm happy to try it then and watch the forums for a while first to look for issues [12:46] zvacet, I did. So is it final now? [12:47] Narsil: yes it is :) [12:47] neL: I have had issues in the past - yes broken packages, incomplete installation etc. I've been with Ubuntu a long time, perhaps that's all fixed bu I'm leery. [12:47] i have a .run file, and i want to run it as root, is there a way from terminal [12:47] Shape: but if you make lot of changes in /etc and other places then ? [12:47] Shape: do you use etckeeper ? [12:47] hi all [12:47] Hi...ive just put my XP disc in to my Ubuntu machine to download it to V-Box and it sais the disc is blank.? [12:48] https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+cdmirrors Official CD Mirrors for Ubuntu [12:48] hello, is safe to upgrade ubuntu server 11.10 to 12.04? [12:48] lol the site is down, i guess they are updating it? [12:48] neL: No, i'm actually very noob and just learning linux, and I've already messed with many things. Also, I personalized it in many ways and I just wrote a notepad with things I did, so I can always redo them. Again another reason is just in case some packages break so I won't have to worry about that and rule that possibility out. [12:49] davis776, well, it won't explode in your face into thousands of burning chunks of PCB [12:49] neL: Rather than just bumping into a problem and then some Captain Obvious telling me "Have you done a fresh install?" [12:49] i didnt realise ubuntu.com uses drupal. heh [12:49] davis776, not recommended to upgrade a server on release day [12:49] Why is everyone in such a hurry to upgrade? [12:49] Haha very pro ;) [12:49] i have a .run file, and i want to run it as root, is there a way from terminal [12:49] Shape: in that case, that is indeed the best approach. we have all been there [12:49] Man! it makes me sad to notice that sad drupal face on ubuntu.com [12:49] black_: sudo ./yourfile.run [12:49] wlan0 device is not showing up in network devices. I am not able to connect to my wireless network. Can anyone please help me out how to repair this I am using ubuntu 11.04 Thanks in advance for you help :) [12:49] black_: sudo ./.run [12:50] derspankster the thrill of a new beginning, maybe? [12:50] black_: what is that .run file [12:50] as the ubuntu website seems heavy loaded i presume 12.04 is out.. [12:50] thank you nitzs and buzzkill [12:50] neL: But keep in mind I have no detailed technical reasons to give you because I'm just learning linux. :) [12:50] i get a page saying technical error [12:50] do you ned some bandwitdth ? i'm going to search for a torrent to seed [12:50] MonkeyDust: Yeah, I understand but I'll wait till the smoke clears myself. [12:50] action09: Yes, for a couple of seconds I glimpsed the release banner, it is out ;) [12:50] aemaeth: the site is overloaded. try later. [12:50] ftp://mirrors.supsec.org/pub/linux/ubuntu-releases/12.04 [12:50] Is it me or is ubuntu.com down? [12:50] ugh, apt-get update is not working too. [12:51] MadDay, its down [12:51] dr-willis , metasploit [12:51] nitzs: ah ok [12:51] ManDay: Its down for everyone - 12.04 is out. [12:51] Hi...ive just put my XP disc in to my Ubuntu machine to download it to Virtual-Box and it sais the disc is blank.? Thanks [12:51] !mirrors [12:51] Ubuntu installation CDs can be downloaded from http://releases.ubuntu.com - Mirrors can be found at http://wiki.ubuntu.com/Mirrors - PLEASE use the !torrents to download !Precise, and help keeping the servers' load low! [12:51] http://releases.ubuntu.com/precise/ works ok [12:51] Shape: As i said we have all been there. Even I used to sit years ago with the live CD. Mess up, wipe out, reinstall. Somehow that cycle is very fast in linux -- totally scary in windows [12:51] Anyone know how long it takes for Kubuntu then? [12:51] decksmasher: can you boot from that disc? [12:51] Yes [12:51] my i386 download isnt that quick - are most people using the 64bit nowadays? [12:51] torrent that is [12:52] !torrents [12:52] Precise can be torrented from http://torrent.ubuntu.com/simple/precise/desktop/ubuntu-12.04-desktop-i386.iso.torrent or http://torrent.ubuntu.com/simple/precise/server/ubuntu-12.04-server-amd64.iso.torrent depending on your needs. Other flavors can be found at http://torrent.ubuntu.com:6969 [12:52] 12.04 is really out? [12:52] I have used it to download xp on my desktop [12:52] steveccc, probably, yeah [12:52] steveccc: if the processor supports it, yes. [12:52] is there a better channel for my question [12:52] decksmasher: configure vbox to use the real cd drive. or make an iso file of it [12:52] I still see in testing on web [12:52] but it is a copy? [12:52] decksmasher: What do you mean by "download"? And who gives an error message telling "the disc is blank"? [12:52] joemppe: and what about HDD space, it is gonna be circa the same? [12:53] ON the desktop it sais a blank disc [12:53] is there an upgrade process from ext3 to ext4 or does it have to be a reformat and restore? [12:53] hi, i installed Ubuntu 12.04 on my vm but the Vmtools couldn't be installed, ? [12:53] neL: In Windows you have to do it anyway because it just works slower by the day no matter how much you defrag or uninstall programs. I'm glad I found out about Linux. [12:53] davis776, it's going to download a whole bunch of packages so make sure you have some free space [12:53] davis776, what does "df -h" say? [12:53] Zontax you can upgrade to ext4 and keep all data [12:54] DR_willis Thanks.make an iso. [12:54] joemppe: I have 13G free, but it will clean after upgrade right? [12:54] davis776 here too, installer removes some obsolete packages [12:54] decksmasher: I have no idea what you used to "download" the disc image to your desktop, but most likely you just created a link. As dr-willis said, just configure vbox to use the real cd drive, and put in the real disc there. [12:54] lexxmt, how ? apt-get upgrade ? [12:54] yeah, it will [12:54] Shape: yeah, something everything manages to become bloated no matter how much you fix it in windows. I am glad that you found linux [12:54] *yeah, somehow everything [12:55] Zontax: http://maketecheasier.com/how-to-upgrade-from-ext3-to-ext4-without-formatting-the-hard-disk/2009/04/21 [12:55] Hello, I'm getting an "ambiguous redirect" error on a script I wrote, but only when it's called from a cron job. If I call it myself it works just fine. It's ever since I added hours, minutes, and seconds to the filename. Any ideas? Here is a paste of a working line and an invalid line along with the error [12:55] hi, is there a torrent url? [12:55] anybody got a direct link to the wubi.exe fpr 12.04? [12:55] lexxmt, thnx mate, gonna take a look [12:55] for* [12:55] davis776, if it does install extraneous packages, you can try to remove some manually [12:55] DamienCassou: http://releases.ubuntu.com/12.04/ [12:55] flipp_: ftp://mirrors.supsec.org/pub/linux/ubuntu-releases/12.04 [12:55] but I'm sure there won't be much of a differnece [12:55] thanks buzzkill [12:56] joemppe: : I have installed PHP from other repository that ubuntu's and looks like it going to overwrite it, any way to disable this? [12:56] !torrents [12:56] Precise can be torrented from http://torrent.ubuntu.com/simple/precise/desktop/ubuntu-12.04-desktop-i386.iso.torrent or http://torrent.ubuntu.com/simple/precise/server/ubuntu-12.04-server-amd64.iso.torrent depending on your needs. Other flavors can be found at http://torrent.ubuntu.com:6969 === Lupinedk is now known as lupinedk [12:56] davis776, you should disable the other repository before upgrading [12:56] aemaeth: thank you [12:56] <`z> so hello [12:56] hello [12:56] <`z> does anyone have any idea [12:56] davis776, install the ubuntu version or just remove php altogether [12:57] <`z> how to use a htc touch2 running wm6.5.5 as a sms gateway? [12:57] then upgrade and reinstall after that [12:57] by [12:57] <`z> planning to do a small project [12:57] hi all [12:57] joemppe: ok, thanks :) [12:57] davis776, np [12:57] in general, it's best to disable anu unofficial repos [12:57] they tend to break your upgrades [12:57] just wanna help another fellow.. if you had problem download with torrent.. you guys can go to http://allyourbasebelongto.us & don't forget to check md5 sum [12:58] http://allyourbasebelongto.us/~iso/ [12:58] What's more in the DVD? ubuntu-12.04-dvd-i386.iso [12:58] ubuntu.com down? [12:58] yes [12:58] !mirrors [12:58] Ubuntu installation CDs can be downloaded from http://releases.ubuntu.com - Mirrors can be found at http://wiki.ubuntu.com/Mirrors - PLEASE use the !torrents to download !Precise, and help keeping the servers' load low! [12:59] ftp://mirrors.supsec.org/pub/linux/ubuntu-releases/12.04 [12:59] !torrents [12:59] Precise can be torrented from http://torrent.ubuntu.com/simple/precise/desktop/ubuntu-12.04-desktop-i386.iso.torrent or http://torrent.ubuntu.com/simple/precise/server/ubuntu-12.04-server-amd64.iso.torrent depending on your needs. Other flavors can be found at http://torrent.ubuntu.com:6969 [12:59] yeah thank you [13:00] What can you use to burn to multiple drives? Brasero just burtnt to one drive for me [13:00] ok, 64 bit iso is in [13:00] http://allyourbasebelongto.us/~iso/ < prefer dl-ed by indonesian.. got local backbone speed 100Mbps :) [13:00] <_r00t_> What chance do I have of downgrading 12.04 -> 10.04 using this guide ? https://help.ubuntu.com/community/DowngradeHowto *serious face* [13:00] Is Ubuntu the exact same thing as Debian, but with a pretty interface? [13:00] i see ubuntu site is down. ubuntu 12.04 was released or is it getting ready to be released? [13:00] !mirrors [13:00] Ubuntu installation CDs can be downloaded from http://releases.ubuntu.com - Mirrors can be found at http://wiki.ubuntu.com/Mirrors - PLEASE use the !torrents to download !Precise, and help keeping the servers' load low! [13:00] lestus: Look up the word "fork" === amir__ is now known as Guest24955 [13:01] en1gma: its being hammered. The release is out. [13:01] lol ubuntu site went offline [13:01] http://www.ubuntu.com/ is looking a bit sick to me [13:01] awesome [13:01] <_r00t_> !downgrade [13:01] Attempting to downgrade to an older Ubuntu version is explicitly not supported and may break your system. [13:01] it took almost five minutes to download, i think i want my money back [13:01] _r00t_: apt scripts are one way - attempting to downgrade is a BAD idea [13:02] Xubuntu torrent out --> http://torrent.ubuntu.com:6969/ [13:02] lestus ubuntu and debian packages are not compatible [13:02] if they had just squeezed it 15 megs more it woulld fit on a cd [13:02] I guess alot people install from USB? :P [13:02] i want to remove metasploit from ubuntu but i can find any thing related to metasploit, what should i do ? [13:02] i got this, Unable to mount VMware Tools , Not Authorized [13:03] how to fix it ? === MartinS is now known as Guest34683 [13:03] lestus: debian and ubuntu are related, but VERY VERY different [13:03] hello, i am using beta version can update to new version via update manager [13:03] <_r00t_> yes very bad idea :( [13:03] !final | alienaut [13:03] alienaut: If you install a development version of Ubuntu Precise and keep up with package updates, then you will be upgraded to the official release of 12.04 when it comes out. To make sure, type « sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get dist-upgrade » in a terminal. Discussion and support in #ubuntu+1. [13:03] statik do we have a dail in for the call [13:04] <_r00t_> Think I'll boot from the 10.04 and check if my raid works before installing 10.04 over 12.04 [13:04] thank you [13:04] too bad AMD doesn't give proper support to their gpus on linux :/ [13:04] Pessimist: they will probably add more cores if you mention it [13:04] * _r00t_ ha a busted install - guess I've try both the cds and see how far I get [13:04] !torrents [13:04] Precise can be torrented from http://torrent.ubuntu.com/simple/precise/desktop/ubuntu-12.04-desktop-i386.iso.torrent or http://torrent.ubuntu.com/simple/precise/server/ubuntu-12.04-server-amd64.iso.torrent depending on your needs. Other flavors can be found at http://torrent.ubuntu.com:6969 [13:06] I'm puzzled that the torrents still aren't mentioned in the announcement email. That could offload the site a lot during releases. [13:07] any one used metasploit in ubuntu before ? [13:07] HTTP reply from privet.canonical.com (squid/2.7.STABLE7) when GETting www.ubuntu.com [13:07] " Unable to forward this request at this time. [13:07] " [13:07] #ubuntu is the topmost topic in G+ :) [13:07] nealmcb: I agree. Also they should add download links to the offline page [13:07] downloading from http://releases.ubuntu.com/precise/ [13:07] ftp://mirrors.supsec.org/pub/linux/ubuntu-releases/12.04 [13:08] https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+cdmirrors <-- complete list of official mirrors [13:08] neL: i see "avengers" [13:08] I'm having problems booting 12.04 from usb any suggestions? [13:08] And it's the only way of the future as the userbase becomes huger [13:08] aemaeth: ah, well second top-most. My bad :) [13:08] ubuntu.com is down? [13:09] being worked on [13:09] so cool. i didn't know ubuntu.com was made in drupal. [13:09] !down | chaospsychex [13:09] :P [13:09] mass exodus of window os users trying to grab the site in hopes of migrating to 12.04 ? [13:09] ubuntu.com = pwned [13:09] maybe i should give drupal another shot [13:10] alxs: hae you checked the iso hashes ! [13:10] when i write sudo apt-get dist-upgrade it give me error message "E: Sub-process /usr/bin/dpkg returned an error code (1)" [13:10] Does 12.04 have classic gnome / gnome shell support [13:10] !Md5sum > alxs [13:10] alxs, please see my private message [13:10] chaospsychex obviously [13:10] alienaut: the server is down probably. [13:11] Can I upgrade Ubuntu just by changing repos in sources.list? update-manager-core pulls tons of garbage back [13:11] digim0nk, yes, by installing either "gnome-panel" or the "gnome-shell" package [13:11] apt-get update is failing too [13:11] grnt: not supported, no [13:11] ah. but i am updating other computer but not distro upgrade [13:11] Jonathan___ do-release-upgrade running here [13:11] How do I burn to multiple drives in Ubuntu?? [13:11] grnt: you can. but not having the garbage might break you new system. [13:12] jrib: what (or how) exactly will be broken? [13:12] grnt, I did that once when the official updater pooped out [13:12] broke everything though [13:12] if anyone needs 12.04 download links while the site is down http://linuxmoz.com/ubuntu-12-04-download/ [13:12] grnt: if you're fairly experienced then you can try but do not be surprised if you need to use a hammer once in a while [13:12] ftp://mirrors.supsec.org/pub/linux/ubuntu-releases/12.04 [13:12] Arnold, thanks .. so after the install just install gnome 3 and set as default [13:13] grnt: (i.e. upgrades may fail and you need to resolve dependencies and issues to continue) [13:13] ok, I'll jut try and let you know. I'm running from usb install created specifically to play around ) [13:13] digim0nk, once you installed either of the packages, you'll have more desktop manager options during login: the "default" will be the last used [13:14] hi, I have a netbook with Ubuntu 10.04 Netbook Edition, and I have not been offered to upgrade to 12.04. Since the netbook edition was put in the normal distribution, does this mean I'll have to do a clean install of vanilla Ubuntu? [13:14] can somebody here confirm that they can get to ubuntu.com ? [13:15] GG111: it's down... [13:15] GG111, its down and being fixed currently [13:15] OMG! what happened to servers [13:15] GG111 that's how popular it is [13:15] Arnold, cool .. thanks [13:15] wow... what's up with that.. [13:15] MonkeyDust: one should be ready for this [13:15] You're welcome digim0nk [13:15] is it just me or is the ubuntu website overloaded? [13:15] http://uptime.netcraft.com/up/graph?site=www.ubuntu.com ah they're still on apache2 [13:15] when commes on distrowawtch is every time down ;) [13:15] I'm all for Ubuntu. but were the sys-admins there napping or something ? [13:16] ubuntu.com doesn't work? [13:16] GG111: They're hard at work. [13:16] the server is busy [13:16] they should switch to nginx [13:16] is ubuntu.com down? [13:16] tarzeau: what makes you say that? === miguel is now known as Guest58543 [13:16] anyone know about oprofile on precise? Like why it's gone? [13:17] DNX: yes [13:17] we really need a !down keyword [13:17] is it because so many client on the server? or is it attacked? [13:17] joemppe: +1 [13:17] and probably somebody should put that on topic [13:17] Pici: they should be, people get fired for this kind of things, I don't need to be mean. [13:17] alienaut: I would guess 12.04 [13:17] http://www.isup.me/ubuntu.com [13:17] nitzs: experience [13:17] I just did an upgrade from ubuntu server 10.04 to 12.04 and it crashed. Now I'm stuck with this message http://pastebin.com/bGecwns5 [13:17] DB can't take requests i suspect... [13:17] anyone any suggestions? I did an LTS -> LTS upgrade [13:17] tarzeau: i've never tried nginx...but i saw they had an update.... what makes it better? === Guest58543 is now known as TronThor [13:18] <_nor> hi, can anyone tell me where i can find logs for init.d scripts? [13:18] Sjimmie: http://linuxmoz.com/how-to-upgrade-to-ubuntu-12-04/ ? [13:18] hal: Looks like it was removed from debian, and thus removed from Ubuntu. See http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=653168 [13:18] Debian bug 653168 in ftp.debian.org "RM: oprofile - unmaintained, replacements exist, buggy, low popcon" [Normal,Open] [13:18] great now everyone is using the torrents and the torrent-tracker is so much under fire.. :) [13:18] designbybeck: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nginx [13:18] Pici: Do you use the envelpoe in Unity for mail notification ? [13:18] GG111: I don't use unity. [13:18] tarzeau: got a link for the torrent ? === gh0506 is now known as china_guang [13:18] ftp://mirrors.supsec.org/pub/linux/ubuntu-releases/12.04 [13:19] I see, well, I started lately. one last thing left before I call it perfect for me. [13:19] kjs_: that is what i did but during the do-release-upgrade it crashed [13:19] !torrents | kjs_ [13:19] kjs_: Precise can be torrented from http://torrent.ubuntu.com/simple/precise/desktop/ubuntu-12.04-desktop-i386.iso.torrent or http://torrent.ubuntu.com/simple/precise/server/ubuntu-12.04-server-amd64.iso.torrent depending on your needs. Other flavors can be found at http://torrent.ubuntu.com:6969 [13:19] i hope i will be ok soon i was planning to go out after i upgrade my system :/ [13:19] Sjimmie i'm doing it the same way, all looks fine for now [13:19] I want my precise download. [13:19] :| [13:19] It crashed here during the gcc upgrades [13:20] I'm getting a full blown "unable to connet" now :) [13:20] Pici: Thanks! [13:20] Sjimmie, can you remove the offending packages? [13:20] http://allyourbasebelongto.us/~iso/ | Ubuntu 12.04 LTS | Indonesia Mirror local backbone 100Mbps [13:20] ubuntu.com down for everyone? [13:20] the rumble in the ubuntu jungle, i love it [13:20] albech: yes, it's not just you. [13:20] albech, down for me [13:20] http://releases.ubuntu.com/ <-- use this [13:20] thanks [13:20] hi guys. need help. im using an asus laptop. everytime i push the power button to sleep / the screen still on but its black.u know what i mean? but in the past using win7 works just fine. but this ubuntu 12 it doest sleep when i push the power button. the battery drains [13:21] seems like canonical.com is down too.. === GirlyGirl_ is now known as GirlyGirl [13:21] Well, seems like one of my servers finally finished upgrading. And it works decently so far :) [13:21] honsestly, I'm kind of angry at them, they can at least have " down, be back soon" , you can have this on a PC on the other side of the world and do a quick DNS divert. [13:21] wer0ckz: i'm on an asus, let me test that, brb [13:21] where can i get torrent for ubuntu 12.04 [13:21] packages.ubuntu.com is up [13:21] I guess they did something wrong with the 12. [13:21] wer0ckz: sell it out [13:22] !torrents | alienaut [13:22] alienaut: Precise can be torrented from http://torrent.ubuntu.com/simple/precise/desktop/ubuntu-12.04-desktop-i386.iso.torrent or http://torrent.ubuntu.com/simple/precise/server/ubuntu-12.04-server-amd64.iso.torrent depending on your needs. Other flavors can be found at http://torrent.ubuntu.com:6969 [13:22] ftp://mirrors.supsec.org/pub/linux/ubuntu-releases/12.04 [13:22] thank you again [13:22] HI, iam building a new kernel and i get this error message " *** Configuration file ".config" not found! make[2]: *** [silentoldconfig] Error 1 make[1]: ." [13:22] launchpad is up too [13:22] wer0ckz: worked for me, i'm in an older version though, and laptop is old. [13:23] i just have a question , about install ubuntu on windows or not , which are the differences ? [13:23] so www.ubuntu.com si down. That means that ubuntu server should not be used in most popular sites woth a lot of traffic? [13:23] :D [13:23] http://allyourbasebelongto.us/~iso/ | Ubuntu 12.04 LTS | Indonesia Mirror local backbone 100Mbps "don't forget to check the md5 sum" [13:23] bounty: do you mean as dual boot ? or as a virtual machine ? [13:24] hi will 12.04 be availble from the update manger or do i have to download a cd ? [13:24] what is stable release called? [13:24] final release ? [13:24] elspuddy: I would wait a day or so before upgrading. [13:24] !upgrade | elspuddy [13:24] elspuddy: For upgrading, see the instructions at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UpgradeNotes - see also http://www.ubuntu.com/desktop/get-ubuntu/upgrade [13:24] elspuddy: mirrors are going to be under heavy use. :P [13:24] dual boot inside windows [13:24] <_nor> hi, can anyone tell me where i can find logs for init.d scripts? [13:24] and last question i have 32 bit version on my netbook if i upgrade it to 64 bit version will i lose my data on hdd(files, documents, programs etc.). [13:24] elspuddy: yes make sure you're using a local mirror if you choose to update today [13:24] alienaut: you need to reinstall OS if you are changing from 32=>64-bit [13:24] alienaut; before it do anything.. the installer will reject [13:25] thanks :) [13:25] alienaut: 32bit->64bit requires a reinstall (do you have separate /home partition) [13:25] HI, iam building a new kernel and i get this error message " *** Configuration file ".config" not found! make[2]: *** [silentoldconfig] Error 1 make[1]: ." [13:25] "Alternatives exist (perf)" apt-cache show perf is nothing. apt-cache search perf returns a bajillion packages none of which seems to do what oprofile does. Am I missing something or is this just seriously weird? People profile their code right? How? [13:25] bounty: It can't be inside of windows , I'll be clearer : do you mean to have a menu right after you power up the system, that asks you which OS to load ? [13:25] most if not all netbook only 32bit arch [13:25] :) [13:25] can i resize the partition size before installing the new ubuntu with gparted? [13:25] oh! thank you guys [13:25] anomalies: my EEEpc is 64bit... [13:25] hey guys... hoping someone can help me with vsftp quickly... I have a friend that needs to send a friend of hers a large movie (about 150MB) email cant handle that obviously... I set up an FTP server (vsftpd), i have edited the .conf to allow for anonymous login as well as anonymous write... however when i try to write a file to the ftp server it doesnt work... any ideas? [13:26] most < :) [13:26] trav1s: what errors are you getting [13:26] have a nice day, thanks a lot again [13:26] i'm i mean use the windows installer , or make a partition separately and reboot the system to install it [13:26] netbooks circa late 2008 and up tend to be 64 bit [13:26] i'm getting an error trying to upgrade: "E: Could not perform immediate configuration on 'libjpeg-dev'." [13:26] hi. i got the ubuntu 12.04 beta 2 installed. is my ubuntu automatically changed to the final version? [13:27] !final | Vortexianer [13:27] Vortexianer: If you install a development version of Ubuntu Precise and keep up with package updates, then you will be upgraded to the official release of 12.04 when it comes out. To make sure, type « sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get dist-upgrade » in a terminal. [13:27] Vortexianer yes [13:27] Site is finally up. :) [13:27] joemppe; i guess i'm old skool then.. :P [13:27] bounty: please use my nick when you reply, the'res noise in the room. Install windows, after that's done, install Ubuntu, Ubuntu will take care of the menu after you boot and let you choose with operting system to load. [13:27] last netbook i touch is still running atom [13:27] ok. thank you !! [13:27] GG111 i'm using Internet Explorer in Windows... I get the error: "An error occured copying a file to the FTP Server. Make sure you have permission to put files on the server. 553 Could not create file" [13:27] Ok if anyone needs a page to point people for final release mirrors of Ubuntu 12.04 http://linuxmoz.com/ubuntu-12-04-download/ [13:27] should i abandon attempting to upgrade, and just do a fresh install? [13:27] anomalies, the newer atom models are 64 bit [13:27] (while the ubuntu.com is down). [13:27] GG1111: 553 is a permission denied message from my research [13:28] kjs_, ubuntu.com is up again. :) [13:28] trav1s: you hane annonyoms login, but can annonymus put files on your site ? [13:28] yea ubuntu works for me as well [13:28] joemppe; i guess i need to update my knowledge about netbook.. never touch one again since late 2006 [13:28] i simply give up.. too slow for my work nature [13:28] joemppe, do you recommend installing the 64-bit version? [13:29] GG111: i do have anonymous login, but cant put files on the site [13:29] http://allyourbasebelongto.us/~iso/ | Ubuntu 12.04 LTS | Indonesia Mirror local backbone 100Mbps "don't forget to check the md5 sum" [13:29] this might help: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Intel_Atom_microprocessors#Netbook_processors_.28sub-notebook.29 [13:29] joemppe: so, upgrade completed, free space is same as before, only "problem" is just reinstalled php to ubuntu's version :) thank you again [13:29] trav1s: do know how to use putty ? [13:29] joemppe; thanks dude ;) [13:29] GG111: lol yes i am sshed in now looking at my config [13:29] joemppe, I was told 64-bit applications requires more memory because pointers are 64-bits [13:30] is there truth to that? [13:30] i'm about to create a whole new one in fact [13:30] so, you can just sftp to the server and put the file there [13:30] what are the advantages of 64-bit? is it any faster? [13:30] trav1s: so, you can just sftp to the server and put the file there [13:30] ric8cruz, not exactly but 64bit systems then to be more fat in resources... [13:30] GG111: yes I can, but the non tech saavy person who needs it is not gonna know how to do all that [13:30] ric8cruz: partly, yes, and you can address more memoyr [13:30] Hello evrybody [13:30] what are the premission on the directory ? [13:30] ric8cruz: depends what you are doing, for general day-to-day NO. For encoding media / big number crunching - YES. [13:31] ls -l $sftp directry [13:31] GG111: i'm trying to figure out where the default FTP directory is [13:31] ric8cruz, if you're short on memory then you may prefer to use the 32 bit version [13:31] tarzeau, but my notebook only has 1Gb, so there isn't any benefit to the increased scope of pointers [13:31] ric8cruz: if you have less then 4GB RAM use 32bit [13:31] indeed [13:31] trav1s: mmm. I see, I don't know that . [13:31] ok, thanks guys [13:31] ric8cruz: i don't think so [13:31] trav1s: qucik google will tell you that. [13:31] I only trust the url direct from ubuntu [13:31] ric8cruz: 1 GB memory? [13:32] lineox; that's the point of md5 checksum [13:32] :) [13:32] hi im trying to save/resume a libvirt / kvm machine guest while i reboot my host [13:32] checksum can be faked [13:32] I will update my 32-bit ubuntu, so I guess I would have to do a clean install for the 64-bit version anyhow [13:32] how could i do this ? [13:32] ubuntu website back in service [13:32] tarzeau, sure, 1GB. it is a cheap notebook [13:32] lineox; oh is it? :) [13:32] ric8cruz: then dont install 64bit :P [13:32] ric8cruz: how much GB harddisk? [13:32] tarzeau, I bought it recently. here in Portugal, most Eee PC notebook only have 1GB [13:33] ric8cruz: if you dont have at least 3G+ there isnt any benefit of using 64bit [13:33] ok, thx [13:33] Eee PC uses Atom processor right? [13:33] yes [13:33] imetallica: yes [13:33] at least mine does [13:33] won't work 64bits [13:33] imetallica: it has the lm flag [13:33] imetallica: some Atoms are 64bit... [13:34] zykotick9: most aren't [13:34] mine's a dual core Atom and it does not work the 64 bits [13:34] imetallica: at least a netbook that i encountered had that , but it had only 2gb of ram , and it was dualcore with sse3 ssse3 and lm flag [13:34] tarzeau: do you have the lm flag in the /proc/cpuinfo ? [13:34] let me just say that www.ubuntu.com/tour is brilliant. Well done to all those responsible for that gem. [13:35] yay its here [13:35] rawhite: yes, what's the lm flag good for? [13:35] N2xx 32 bit, N4xx, N5xx, N2xxx 54 bit [13:35] 64* [13:35] Oh, I cannot wait till this torrent is done. [13:35] rawhite: wait so all the atom boxes i have here (100+) can do 64bit linux? [13:35] tarzeau: lm shoudl be the 64bit option [13:35] why md5 can't be trusted enough to download from any source. http://www.win.tue.nl/hashclash/SoftIntCodeSign/ [13:35] If I add user or make a new profile for a person on my Ubuntu laptop do the drivers and packages I have installed work on the new profile? [13:35] tarzeau: try to boot one and see for yourself , i didnt tryed :P [13:36] rawhite: i guess i'll create 64-bit ltsp chroots now... [13:36] can´t boot into 12.04 i think nouveau freezes my boot, how i boot with old nvidia drivers? [13:36] GG111: i found the default anon_root directory for vsftpd [13:36] Yud_Zroc: drivers would yes [13:36] tarzeau: not sure :) try it and tell me also please :) i dont have the netbook anymore it was not mine [13:36] GG111: it's /var/ftp [13:36] it says all these: flags: fpu vme de pse tsc msr pae mce cx8 apic mtrr pge mca cmov pat clflush dts acpi mmx fxsr sse sse2 ss ht tm pbe nx lm constant_tsc arch_perfmon pebs bts aperfmperf pni dtes64 monitor ds_cpl tm2 ssse3 cx16 xtpr pdcm movbe lahf_lm dts [13:36] apt-get install linux-tools for perf in case anyone actually cares. [13:36] jeez, just read intel's product specs [13:36] tarzeau: but whats the point on booting 64bit if you dont have ram to use ? [13:36] tarzeau: you use ltsp in an educational setting? [13:36] trav1s: ls -l /var |grep ftp [13:36] zykotick9: thankyou....and the packages (such as flash and MP3 etc)? [13:36] rawhite: the point is that the ltsp server is running in 64bit [13:37] ltsp is very nice not just in edu :P in enterprise also :D [13:37] you're being too linuxy about this [13:37] tarzeau: oh only 64bit ? [13:37] rawhite: and we run condor (wisconsin) [13:37] joemppe; only "Pineview" & "Cedar-Trail M" are 64bit [13:37] in what ways rawhite? [13:37] thank you for your hard work everybody! [13:37] Yud_Zroc: any packages, will apply to all users as well (that's both system wide installed stuff) [13:37] rawhite: so when ALL hosts are 64bit, people only compile their code to run on all hosts ONCE instead of once for 64-bit hosts and once for 32-bit hosts [13:37] zykotick9: thankyou so much [13:37] anomalies, yeah, what I said [13:37] how do i tell my kvm guests to save when the host is shut down and resume when the host is booted ? [13:37] I was looking at nettop atoms earlier when I said late 2009 [13:38] 2008 sorry [13:38] only Asus use it or there is another vendor? [13:38] there are plenty [13:38] samsung is a big one [13:38] UICTamale, thx for the link. the ubuntu tour is really cool indeed. my hat off to those responsible for it. [13:38] I can't download ubuntu 12 why??? [13:38] hmm.. might consider buy one.. just to toy with it [13:38] I already seeded 1.0 and I am still downloading 12.04 LTS. That is amazing. [13:38] How does one get the "dell dock" or that apple graphical menu mod? i see it in videos all the time, I just dont know what it is called [13:39] Mahmoud20070; ubuntu got hammered!! [13:39] Mahmoud20070: make sure you are using a local mirror, the main server are very busy right now [13:39] Mahmoud20070, try the torrents, they work fine. [13:39] Mahmoud20070, maybe a problem with the mirror [13:39] http://allyourbasebelongto.us/~iso/ | Ubuntu 12.04 LTS | Indonesia Mirror local backbone 100Mbps "don't forget to check the md5 sum" [13:39] Can debian 6.0 get wireless card dress from Ubuntu ? [13:39] I, personally, am drooling for the ultra thin i7s with SSDs and 8GB of ram ;) [13:39] rawhite: libvirt/virt-manager support is #virt on irc.oftc.net [13:39] GG111: drwxr-xr-x 2 root root 4096 2012-04-26 09:32 ftp [13:39] i don't like torrents i will wait to night becuase i like to download from http [13:40] joemppe: you mean the one with a bitten fruit on it? [13:40] This is the latest 12.04 torrent? www.ubuntu.com/download/desktop/alternative-downloads Why doesn't the download file have LTS? [13:40] clearly that is wrong [13:40] any idea why the update manager is going to remove git when upgrading to precise? [13:40] china_guang: you would have to set up the repos in the package manager, but its not 100% to work [13:40] joemppe; i'm currently use i5 2nd gen with ssd and 8gb of ram :) [13:40] tarzeau, that's just one OEM [13:40] I like Torrents because md5 is built in and the torrent link was from Ubuntu. Isn't that the most secure thing ever? [13:40] I'm having trouble staring the ubuntu 12.04 download from the ubuntu website === friskd_ is now known as friskd [13:40] trav1s: well, that's fine. [13:40] KeithWeisshar, try the torrents [13:40] anomalies, sounds good [13:40] i tried to start the download but it won't even start [13:40] i don't think for notebook it will much give any significant improvement for i7 [13:41] it's not Linux permmisions, most likely with you server permissions.. did you follow a step by step guide ? [13:41] KeithWeisshar, go to the alternatives page and get the torrent [13:41] joemppe; well.. it's a thinkpad. :) [13:41] KeithWeisshar: you are not honoring distrubuted computing and overloading the server. [13:41] GG111: brb gotta do something really quick [13:41] KeithWeisshar, Have you tried downloading it via bittorrent? I have no problem with it that way. [13:42] i don't have bittorrent installed [13:42] I've learned not to skimp on CPU purchases [13:42] the isp throttles it [13:42] I got it coming down fast at 1 meg per second my top speed thanks to torrent. even throttled. [13:42] Can anyone advise on if its worth installing 64-bit Ubuntu? [13:42] is there a usa mirror [13:42] KeithWeisshar, You could download the .iso though the alternative page. I also had success with that. [13:42] i5 + ssd + 8gb memory already awesome, why the need of i7? :) [13:42] I got it down at almost 19mb a sec, lol [13:42] Jeff123, how much RAM you have? [13:43] tarzeau: and rawhite have you used iTALC for enterprise management? maybe traning room labs or the like? [13:43] 4GB [13:43] yes [13:43] does the web download use the nearest server based on ip address [13:43] designbybeck: nope, never heard of it. url? [13:43] does it use the random mirror [13:43] I note 32 bit is recommended. Any idea why? [13:43] tarzeau: http://sourceforge.net/projects/italc/ [13:43] designbybeck: we're using dphys-config though (since we developed it) [13:43] joemppe: ya, if i dont spend at least....minimal 100 on mine and it must have at least 4 cores...i kind of get finiky [13:43] so you have bragging rights over a greater number of people? :) [13:43] hi [13:43] or this tarzeau http://italc.sourceforge.net/ [13:43] How do I burn to multiple drives in Ubuntu? [13:43] KeithWeisshar: this was posted a few minutes ago here ftp://mirrors.supsec.org/pub/linux/ubuntu-releases/12.04 [13:43] I hope to d/load and install this afternoon. Is gnome-shell in the default repos? [13:44] I'm doing an install party so it would be nice to know [13:44] can i use the link on distrowatch [13:44] KeithWeisshar: maybe suspec.org is trustable? [13:44] Jeff123, many people don't have PCs with more than 4Gb RAM (my guess) and 32bit versions works on any PC [13:44] designbybeck: nice tip thank you [13:44] Time for me to go! Happy upgrading, guys. :D [13:44] Brasero has a bug and won't even burn to the next sequential CD without killing the process === mint is now known as tc_busy [13:45] joemppe; lol.. this thinkpad i use for work only.. have bad design aesthetically ugly [13:45] imetallica: Thanks. Just to ease my last worry, are there any known issues with 64 bit versions? [13:45] no prob tarzeau, I'm hoping to deploy LTSP or iTALC in our classrooms soon for a mixed Windows/Linux environment, but i'm new to them both [13:45] Jeff123, but you can have the 64bit version without trouble. [13:45] can't brag with it [13:45] :D [13:45] Jeff123, don't think so, nowadays these are well tested. They share the same love and care as the 32bit ones. [13:45] tarzeau: did you try to boot one ? [13:46] nonsense, they're just solidly built for extra reliability [13:46] rawhite: nooo not yet, i'm busy creating the netboot images for the normal workstations [13:46] imetallica: Thanks mate. *Downloading* [13:46] rawhite: i'll try it some time, but certainly not today [13:46] does the new ubuntu use the new HUD menu? :) [13:46] how to change the grub when your windows option doesnt appear [13:46] Jeff123, have fun. :-) [13:47] tarzeau: but well dont blame it on me if it doesnt boots 64bit kernels :P [13:47] rawhite: heh, no worries :) [13:47] dual boot isnt working, windows option doesnt show up [13:47] ric8cruz, 12.04 ships with Unity 5.x, so yeah [13:47] okay [13:47] imetallica, way cool () [13:47] time to set up a working squid cacheing proxy [13:47] * 8) [13:47] hopefully this handles dual screen better than 12.04-- [13:47] and *then* apt-get update [13:48] dual boot isnt working, windows option doesnt show up, how to edit grub [13:48] joemppe; ahahaha.. it's beast actually.. behind that ugly design, this one if a hell of a beast =)) [13:48] any decent 12.04 mirror? [13:48] edit files in /etc/grub.d [13:48] it's so nice to have gigabit internet [13:48] muzzol: torrent... [13:48] muzzol, try the torrents. [13:48] oks === andy_ is now known as Guest26174 [13:48] where's the buglist at? [13:48] anomalies, yeah I had a thinkpad once from work [13:48] loved it [13:48] <_r00t_> Is there a vmware tools repo for precise ? [13:49] Menno: like can you tell me how to [13:49] tc_busy: I'd be glad to share my setup with you. [13:49] mine is x220 [13:49] hello, i have pentium 4, 3gh, 1 gb ram, onboard graphic 64 mb, can i use 12.04? of course without unity [13:49] Menno: pm me [13:49] tc_busy: better to talk in the main channel - then others can also learn. [13:49] PinkHat91; yes, you can [13:49] PinkHat91: yup [13:50] Having trouble installing ubuntu 11.10 from a USB stick on an asus u46e [13:50] Menno: thanks for the thought i am new here so kinda ..... [13:50] PinkHat91, yes, but I would suggest you to use it without effects... Compiz eats around 300Mb RAM [13:50] anomalies, t61 maybe? [13:50] I get the initial menu to try or install, then the screen blanks [13:50] Skaag it should have been easy [13:50] Skaag: i have [13:50] <_r00t_> will try open vm in the meantime [13:50] so 12.04 is released? [13:51] I tried turning off acpi, and adding nomodeset [13:51] <_r00t_> imetallica: Compiz on which release ? [13:51] compdoc yes [13:51] joemppe; mine is thinkpad x220 [13:51] ok, tnx [13:51] cool [13:51] blazing fast [13:51] right :) [13:51] _r00t_, 11.10 [13:51] tc_busy: so, what partitions are your Windows and Linux on. [13:51] Menno [13:51] t61 is a very durable one [13:51] tc_busy: How did you install? From CDROM or USB? [13:51] <_r00t_> imetallica: thanks .... I'm looking for feedback on compiz for 12.04 [13:52] Windows 7 is detected automagically by GRUB, as should WinXP. [13:52] well Menno i dont get it but i choose 50-50 space in it ,Skaag usb [13:52] Ubuntu.com seems to be having some issues this morning, with their reverse proxies [13:52] my boss still have a t61, running nicely but never use it for work anymore.. since we all using x220 for the standard :) [13:52] is dist-upgrade still ill-advised? [13:52] Menno it used to but since my sister had a wagic touch on my laptop [13:52] magic** [13:53] http://allyourbasebelongto.us/~iso/ | Ubuntu 12.04 LTS | Indonesia Mirror local backbone 100Mbps "don't forget to check the md5 sum" [13:53] Hey why is ubuntu.com running so slow? [13:53] tc_busy: How did you boot it from USB? Special kernel settings? [13:53] hello === nicolaj is now known as fusk [13:53] indystorm, too many people accessing it at same time [13:53] anomalies, it ought to be [13:53] indystorm: everybody is using it right now. [13:53] sary: hi sary [13:53] considering it feels like a slab of steel [13:53] indystorm: Trouble with their reverse proxies [13:53] Skaag used unetbootin to do the job [13:53] hi all. anyone here have issues with 12.04 wifi range? my wifi is very poor and although says connected, does not even ping google when i am away from router. 11.10 worked fine at similar distance [13:53] :( I want to download the new 12.04 distro.... [13:53] joemppe; lol! [13:53] indystorm, if you want to download it, try downloading from torrents [13:54] indystorm: http://releases.ubuntu.com/ [13:54] indystorm: use a torrent. [13:54] You're welcome [13:54] hi [13:54] ok cool I'll try [13:54] Menno your grub [13:55] captine: I think you should pastebin the follow info, lspci -kv and lsmod, use pastebin tou paste the result [13:55] Skaag in BIOS I set the proirity to USB HDD [13:55] I have Win7 and WinXP sharing the same boot partition, === Gnux is now known as Guest98315 [13:55] anyone have installed 12.04? [13:55] so my 40_custom looks like this: menuentry "blah blah" --class windows --class os { \n insmod part_msdos \n insmod ntfs \n set root="9/dev/sda,msdos1)' \n search --fs-uiid --set=root blahblahblah \n ntldr /NTLDR \n } [13:55] Menno winxp in ntfs but linux in etx thing [13:55] tc_busy: I manage to boot the USB stick [13:55] brb [13:55] GhostWolf: updating the beta right now [13:56] tc_busy: I"m really sorry dude but I don't understand you. [13:56] i like ubuntu :) [13:56] Skaag i did it myself my but grub file has been damaged somehow [13:57] Menno see my grub settings got changed somehow is it possibe to include winxp option in it again [13:57] Site is down :( [13:57] Buggery [13:58] Is it a known problem, when you open your screen up after sleep that most of the times, the login box never shows up, or does show up but mouse and keyboard stopped working? [13:59] 436 pkgs to upgrade [13:59] * Menno ponders if this is a good idea before boarding flight @ 3pm [13:59] tc_busy: if you re-run update-grub, it *should* automagically pick up WinXP. [13:59] sary: Assalamu Alykum [14:00] if you could pastebin fdisk -l -u, it'd help [14:00] Shalom! [14:00] a [14:00] Menno how to what command [14:00] <_r00t_> Anyone have live bandwidth stats from gb archive ? [14:00] Menno, If you have fast speed then you can upgrade in short time, if not then it takes longer time [14:00] and pastebin mount and your /etc/fstab [14:00] jiltdil: I'm more concerned with stuff breaking [14:00] Is installing to usb okay or should go with CD? [14:00] what the heck is 'wuilbr' error [14:00] Menno, Never had issue in past while upgrading [14:00] happened when I dual booted windows with ubuntu [14:01] ubuntu download mirrors? [14:01] It's time for ubuntu.com to switch to varnish for their caching... [14:01] anybody know if there is a torrent up for ubuntu server 12.04 isos ? [14:01] sary: Assalam alykum [14:01] BadCodSmell, http://releases.ubuntu.com/12.04/ [14:01] Thanks :) [14:01] geekbri, http://releases.ubuntu.com/12.04/ [14:01] will universal usb installer work with this version of 12.04? [14:02] paws yes [14:02] meadhikari: ah yes, there it is, at the bottom : [14:02] tc_busy: even older version of usb installer than this version of 12.04? [14:02] sary: Assalamu alykum [14:02] jiltdil: I've got some funky setups with my 3G and WiMAX cards. [14:03] is 1.8.8.9 Universal USB Installer okay for 12.04 or does it need upgrade. [14:03] Menno, ok [14:03] yes it should select try some other distro at bottom [14:03] Does anyone know when the AMIs will be updated? http://cloud.ubuntu.com/ami/ [14:03] and my boot loader can be a tad fragile (have WinXP and Win7 on the machine, plus OS X.) [14:03] I wish apt-get could use torrents. [14:04] I've noticed lately that I cannot access the hosted services of my ubuntu servers from a fresh install lately (specifically http and ssh) from a remote machine even on the same LAN/Subnet. Are there default firewall rules on the OS that are preventing me from accessing my services through anything farther away than 'localhost'? [14:04] Menno, You can download the alternate cd to upgrade === sorin is now known as Guest20216 [14:04] meadhikari: Probably wouldn't help, since the lion's share of my packages aren't on the alt CD instlal [14:05] and I'd like to seed my cache anyway [14:05] Apreche: They're working on it, you may want to hang out in #ubuntu-server if you are waiting on an update. [14:05] Pici: Thanks! [14:06] is there a torrent link for the new OS? i dont want to eat up canonicals bw [14:06] eHAPPY, http://releases.ubuntu.com/12.04/ [14:06] ty :) [14:06] !torrents > eHAPPY [14:06] eHAPPY, please see my private message [14:06] bandwidth is cheap just download it [14:07] !bandwith >tc_busy [14:07] hi people! I'd love to move to Linux but does Ubuntu include drivers for USB modem? [14:07] i just tried the torrent link was a no go for me [14:07] Depends on the modem. [14:07] What modem do you have? [14:07] who is ubottu [14:07] depends of what modem you use [14:07] simtsit: mostly [14:07] Menno: Sagem family [14:07] !ubottu [14:07] Hi! I'm #ubuntu's favorite infobot, you can search my brain yourself at http://ubottu.com/factoids.cgi | Usage info: http://ubottu.com/devel/wiki/Plugins | Bot channels and general info: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/IRC/Bots [14:07] who is ubottu [14:07] ok [14:07] lool [14:07] tc_busy, bot [14:08] Is that like a CDMA or a UMTS modem? [14:08] Most popular modems work. [14:08] Just boot up an Ubuntu live CD or USB flash drive, plug in the modem, and see if it's automagically recognised. [14:08] Menon I think UMTS. how can i know for sure? [14:08] jiltdil: thanks quite interesting bot handy one [14:08] Menno* [14:08] You *might* need to enter in your carrier details, depending on from whom you get your service [14:08] simtsit: I'd check out the plan you have and check out how you connect on Windows. === sagaci_ is now known as sagaci [14:09] simtsit: name and details of the modem? [14:10] but not private details :P [14:10] so i take it you cant upgrade from 11.10 to 12.04? [14:10] why couldn't you alien64? [14:10] alien64 we can [14:11] designbybeck: show him some light [14:11] lol i'm not to sure myself tc_busy mine was more a question ;) [14:12] lol designbybeck i said as you can tell him and i too get to know it lol [14:12] Does anyone know if the hid-logitech-dj affects the Logitech G700 Wireless Gaming mouse? [14:12] tc_busy: is there an upgrade button in the update manager or just do distupgrade from apt-get? [14:12] hi guys. i recently updated to 11.10 having a geforce 7300LE in a dual head setup and unity doesnt seem to run properly. i plan to replace the card with a newer one. can anybody reccommend a cheap video card with full unity support out of the box? [14:12] !upgrade [14:12] For upgrading, see the instructions at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UpgradeNotes - see also http://www.ubuntu.com/desktop/get-ubuntu/upgrade [14:13] my 12.04 installlation stucked on Almost finished copying files... [14:13] btw. i don't need the card for gaming [14:13] alien64: no idea dude i am pretty much new to linux a newbie [14:13] If I'm using 10.04-LTS and I want to upgrade to 12.04-LTS directly, what is the best suggested option? [14:13] celso_: Sagem F@st 800. [14:13] stefg: ty [14:13] napster do update and take a nap lol [14:13] napster: to be honest.... backup your files and reinstall. === Duke_ is now known as simtsit_ [14:13] tc_busy: :) [14:13] lol napster [14:13] :) [14:14] blez do it again [14:14] napster: sudo do-release-upgrade [14:14] might be lucky this time blez [14:14] hmm I recently upgraded from 11.10 to 12.04 and wanted to test the fancy HUD but it won't show? [14:14] and by recently i mean 10 minutes ago :D [14:14] sftcr: I have a Radeon dual DVI that works great dual monitor on 11.10. Won't be trying out 12.04 until tonight though. If you get a decent card with two DVI interfaces it should work fine. [14:14] phoobar, press Alt [14:14] lol phoobar [14:15] tc_busy: stefg davis776 I wish if LTS to LTS dist-upgrades were kind of stable process. [14:15] tc_busy I wonder if I restart, will it continue the installation [14:15] napster: but *do* a backup first. There had been tons of changes from 10.04 to 12.04 so breakage is to be expected [14:15] I tried alt. Won't show [14:15] blez it should [14:15] prior-releast to new LTS is generally smoother than last-LTS to current LTS. :\ [14:15] and I wasn't making fun phoobar, just laughing at your "recently" statment [14:16] when will ubuntu shift 64 bit to recommended? [14:16] mauhdeeb: thanks, which radeon model are you running? [14:16] napster: Canonical is trying to get that right sinc 6.06 ..... and still trying :-) [14:16] napster better to ask a pro i am kinda new to this but i think it should work fine [14:16] if i press alt I just can hotkey the menubar, as it has always been [14:16] phoobar: did you reboot your system? if you did, try log in as guest [14:16] Is there a torrent link to 12.04 32 bit? [14:16] Flash is more or less dead now with no linux support [14:16] no release announcement in the topic? [14:16] thanks everyone [14:16] 5800 model I believe - am at work now so hard to recall [14:16] X-tonic: it's not dead on google chrome [14:16] !torrent | AceKing [14:16] AceKing: Some torrent clients: Transmission (GTK and terminal-based), Deluge-Torrent, Freeloader, BitStormLite, BitTornado-GUI (GTK), KTorrent (KDE), QTorrent (Qt), Azureus/Vuse (Java), !Frostwire (Java), TorrentFlux (web-based), bittornado, rTorrent, cTorrent, bittorrent, aria2 (terminal-based) - FAQ: http://www.bittorrent.com/help/faq - See also !P2P [14:16] designbybeck: You're welcome ;-) [14:16] AceKing, http://releases.ubuntu.com/precise/ [14:16] ooops [14:17] AceKing, all the torrents are there [14:17] tensorpudding: Thank you [14:17] Stanley00: Thank you [14:18] AceKing: :) [14:18] The MD5 found in http://releases.ubuntu.com/precise/MD5SUMS does not match the actual MD5 of the iso found at http://releases.ubuntu.com/precise/ubuntu-12.04-desktop-amd64.iso [14:18] !torrents | Stanley00 [14:18] Stanley00: Precise can be torrented from http://torrent.ubuntu.com/simple/precise/desktop/ubuntu-12.04-desktop-i386.iso.torrent or http://torrent.ubuntu.com/simple/precise/server/ubuntu-12.04-server-amd64.iso.torrent depending on your needs. Other flavors can be found at http://torrent.ubuntu.com:6969 [14:18] auronandace: yep, got cha :D [14:19] Stanley00: just 1 letter out you were [14:19] soo, am i the only one getting "need 6.9G free space to upgrade to 12.04, free 5.2G more", even though i have 7.3gigs free? [14:19] just doing a normal standard upgrade from 11.10 to 12.04, never had this issue befure. really seems like a windows issue [14:19] i can install windows after linux ? [14:20] found nothing on google :/ [14:20] bad MD5 sum in the file posted on ubuntu.com [14:20] bounty: sure, but it will destroy your MBR, so you will have to fix your MBR to make linux bootable again [14:20] bounty: yes, but windows will overwrite the mbr [14:20] bounty: windows first, then linux, will just work(tm) [14:20] released? [14:21] yes [14:21] could someone in here give me a "i have succesfully upgraded to 12.04" [14:21] hi, I am trying to install iredmail but am getting info that the postfix-policyd package has no installation candidate [14:21] if they have i mean :) [14:21] good luck d/l it [14:21] a_b0y, http://releases.ubuntu.com/12.04/ [14:21] but where can i download Lubuntu? [14:21] I updated my sources to universe etc (even though it isnt exactly needed on 10.04 [14:21] bounty first windows, or you will have to repair the grub menu afterwards [14:21] TobiasTheCommie: Are you sure you have that much space free on / ? [14:22] hi, why did ubuntu remove their alternative-download page? [14:22] i wanted to grab 12.04 via torrent [14:22] does ubuntu support full disc encryption with the desktop installation disc or do I still need alternate installer disc? [14:22] Pici: df -h / [14:22] Filesystem Size Used Avail Use% Mounted on [14:22] /dev/sda5 12G 7.5G 1.6G 83% / [14:22] apparanly not :) [14:23] i looked at the size and used, not avail. wtf i'll investigate [14:23] TobiasTheCommie: there's always some space reserved for root on a default ext2/3/4 file system (like 5%) . you could tune that down to a smaller value with sudo tune2fs /dev/your_device -m 2 [14:23] first error i notice, dvorak is not the default keyboard layout [14:23] TobiasTheCommie: Try cleaning out your apt cache: sudo apt-get clean [14:23] *argh* [14:23] idiotic [14:23] Pici: done that. it is the home folder encryption [14:23] When installing new files it "do you want to overwrite 12.04 lts with 12.04 lts" Are we just copying the same install? Why is it called the same thing 12.04 LTS? [14:23] oh shit! i thought rls was on 28!!! :D [14:23] if i do df -h . i get 7.3gigs free [14:23] if i do df -h / i get 1.3 gigs free [14:23] What is different about the 12.04 LTS files yesterday than today? [14:24] same partition, and i have done a reboot since cleaning. still, this is obviously the encfs, i shoudl be able to find something on google now. i hope [14:24] many downsides to running 64 bit ubuntu ? [14:24] Pici: but thanks, i wouldn't have found this issue without your question :) [14:24] irv: 1 bit takes 4 bytes [14:24] TobiasTheCommie, probably. is mounted [14:24] TobiasTheCommie: sure, np. [14:24] in mem? heh [14:24] irv is your hardware 64bit capable? [14:25] limpc: wouldn't a reboot fix that? [14:25] MonkeyDust: i run win 7 amd64 right now [14:25] so yes [14:25] fix what? [14:25] If you already had 12.04 LTS will the new download have anything different? [14:25] irv then you can use ubuntu 64bit, ok [14:25] limpc: the free space issue i'm having with encfs [14:25] if its a mounted folder that you didnt manually mount, its probably in your fstab and will remount when you reboot [14:25] TobiasTheCommie, idk about that i joined towards the end of your issue [14:26] Hi, I'm trying to write a script that knows how many new mails come in while I'm away. I think newmail will be a good place to start but can't work out what it wants as far as a mailbox goes? Does it only work for local mailboxes or can I get it to work with IMAP? [14:26] limpc: encfs home folder, mounted on login(ie, after x and lightdm is up and running) [14:26] yeah i know i can, but i'm just wondering if there's any reason i should consider running 32bit aside from the assumed additional support for 32 bit applications, etc [14:26] ah, oki. was just the 16:24:55 TobiasTheCommie, probably. is mounted [14:26] like most common stuff you can get a 64 bit package for yes? [14:26] irv: No real downsides. Were some Adobe issues at first but it all works fairly clean these days [14:26] i wanted to make sure i hadn't missed something stupid... again.. [14:26] awesome. 64bit it is ;] [14:26] TobiasTheCommie, yeah you mentioned the difference in df with . and / [14:26] irv: I have a win7 machine and am putting 32 bit on. there is no clear benefit for 64 and when looking into it "programs must be coded to use it etc..." if ther OS does how does it help? memory access? speed? [14:27] if the current folder is a mounted folder (e.g. of another partition), then it'll of course show a different size [14:27] TobiasTheCommie, i believe the installer allows you to set up home as a separate partition by default [14:27] limpc: yeah, with the . being /home// encfs. but i guess that wasn't obvious [14:28] is there a page explaining what 12.04 LTS today is vs. 12.04 LTS a few days ago? [14:28] just could not make it 12.05? [14:28] i didn't. but, i've locked down the issue enough that i can find a solution on google now. [14:28] so, thanks all [14:28] a few days ago 12.04 was beta, zardox [14:28] zardox happened once, 6.04 became 6.06 [14:28] so how can i install postfix-policyd on ubuntu 11.04? [14:29] zardox: wouldn't tehre still be issues accessing > 3.2gb memory in 32 bit? [14:29] limpc: so it is a status not a different download? is the rush to update from people with pre-12.04? === mint is now known as tc_busy [14:29] limpc: 12.04 crashes all the time, isn't working with my dual display right etc... was hoping this 4 hours downloading and installing was getting something new. [14:29] !info postfix-policyd natty === keniiiii is now known as jOKA [14:30] postfix-policyd (source: postfix-policyd): anti-spam plugin for Postfix. In component universe, is optional. Version 1.82-2ubuntu5 (natty), package size 60 kB, installed size 316 kB [14:30] zardox, idk, im not part of the ubuntu build team. i dont know how often they update the final beta image.. its entirely likely they have updated it since you downloaded your image [14:30] so did anyone try ubuntu 12.04 === jOKA is now known as Raki1 [14:30] limpc: thanks [14:30] I'm still trying to install it. [14:30] tc_busy yes, running it now [14:30] why can't i use wubu.exe on the root directory of the desktop cd to install from windows? [14:30] easiest way is to checksum the files [14:30] does anyone have wubi error saying "prefix is not set" ?? [14:30] I'm trying to share memory between Android and chrooted ubuntu on the same kernel. any idea how to proceed? [14:30] wiherek: Saw ubottus response? should be in the repos [14:30] someone earlier was stating the checksums were wrong? [14:30] MonkeyDust: congratulations [14:31] when i run wubi from the cd it only gives the option to reboot, not install from windows [14:31] tc_busy having issues upgrading? [14:31] MonkeyDust: yup [14:31] in the previous version i was able to install using wubi.exe on the cd [14:32] it seems also tthati cannot install from wubi [14:32] getting only errors [14:32] does anyone have a mac and ubuntu machine? [14:32] MonkeyDust: why are people saying it is crashing, what is the minimum requirement for it to work [14:32] why can't i use wubi.exe on the 12.04 cd to install? [14:32] zardox: yes [14:32] Hi! How can I do a do-release-upgrade from 10.04 to 12.04? it says Checking for a new ubuntu release No new release found [14:32] ikonia: which are you using now? [14:32] KeithWeisshar: mirrors are probably busy [14:32] rtc same here [14:32] !upgrade > rtc [14:32] rtc, please see my private message [14:32] uit [14:32] zardox: which what ? [14:32] rtc- try do-release-upgrade -d [14:32] third time I restart [14:33] ikonia: which computer? [14:33] rtc: Christoph_vW no [14:33] tc_busy what is crashing? how do you try to upgrade? [14:33] the wubi.exe on the cd itself only gives option to reboot [14:33] rtc: do not do that [14:33] zardox: a macbook pro [14:33] rtc: and do a backup first... upgrades are potentially dangerous [14:33] ikonia: you are using on irc? [14:33] rtc: do not do do-release-upgrade -d === GirlyGirl_ is now known as GirlyGirl [14:33] zardox: I'm not using it at this moment, no [14:33] Monkeydust it hangs after sometime, do-release-upgrade -d [14:33] ikonia: Yes, I know about -d... I don't want to do that... ;) [14:33] tc_busy: do not use the -d swtich [14:33] tc_busy: you should not do that ! [14:33] ikonia: is it worth it if you hate windows and hatee command lines? [14:34] How does one reenable the sources upgrade disabled without manually editing each file? [14:34] ikonia: to use a mac. [14:34] zardox: what ? [14:34] upgrade then how to ikonia Pici [14:34] tc_busy it finished without flaw here, i did not use the -d option [14:34] how can i upgrade ? [14:34] without -d it says no new release found [14:34] ikonia: which computer do you spend more time configuring the Mac or Linux? [14:34] tc_busy: what version of ubuntu are you using ? [14:34] !upgrade >tc_busy [14:34] tc_busy, please see my private message [14:34] why is the ability to install using wubi.exe on the cd disabled [14:35] tc_busy: then you need to make sure that your computer is up to date with apt-get update/upgrade/dist-upgrade first [14:35] ikonia 10.10 [14:35] zardox: on my mac I normally use Mac OS, as that's one of there reasons I bought a Maciej_W [14:35] bought a mac sorry [14:35] tc_busy: ok, so that's why it's not working [14:35] Pici ok [14:35] stefg: tx for pointing that out [14:35] tc_busy: that is a non-LTS release. [14:35] ikonia?? [14:35] ok ikonia [14:35] tc_busy: You can't upgrade from 10.10 to 12.04. You'd need to go through 11.04 and 11.10 first. [14:35] so then what to do ikonia [14:35] sudo do-release-upgrade -d << does this command work fine? I mean, it won't crash kubuntu, right= [14:35] !upgrade | tc_busy [14:35] tc_busy: For upgrading, see the instructions at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UpgradeNotes - see also http://www.ubuntu.com/desktop/get-ubuntu/upgrade [14:35] tc_busy: READ the link ubottu gave you [14:35] BlouBlou: do not use the -d switch. [14:36] !info postfix-policyd oneiric [14:36] Package postfix-policyd does not exist in oneiric [14:36] ikoniaL: it is looking to me that I may be happier with a mac than Win7 or Ubuntu. Just want to code and the OS overhead is too much. [14:36] Hello All. [14:36] Pici: all right. [14:36] zardox: up to you [14:36] thanks ikonia [14:36] so there is no way to upgrade to 10.04 to 12.04? [14:36] wiherek: np... BTW there'S #ubuntu-server (seems that someone asking for a postfix spam filter might be interested in taht channel :-) ) [14:36] rtc: yes there is [14:36] Is there a reason why sometimes I see a "%" prompt in the command line and others I see a "#" prompt? [14:36] I have to upgrade to 11.10 first? [14:36] whene is the indian language is done translated ? [14:36] rtc: no, you don't [14:36] rtc: you are using 10.04 which is LTS [14:36] Pici: I'm thing about upgrading trought a tty, it should work, right' [14:37] s'/? [14:37] !bash | xpistos [14:37] xpistos: The linux terminal or command-line interface is very powerful. Open a terminal via Applications -> Accessories -> Terminal (Gnome), K-menu -> System -> Konsole (KDE), or Menu -> Accessories -> LXTerminal (LXDE). Guide: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UsingTheTerminal [14:37] bye for now [14:37] xpistos: root vs. unprivileged user [14:37] touchpad not working on samsung series 3 300v5a [14:37] right, ikonia... But then how do I upgrade from 10.04 to 12.04? http://www.ubuntu.com/download/desktop/upgrade describes only updating from 11.10... [14:37] BlouBlou: Yes, just don't use the -d switch blindly. [14:37] is it out yet ? [14:37] right rtc [14:38] ikonia you need to help [14:38] mohd: which Indian language [14:38] rtc read upgrade notes [14:38] to upgrade from beta2 to release do i just do "update-manager -d"? [14:38] there are like a dozen of them [14:38] rtc: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UpgradeNotes [14:38] !final | feydrm [14:38] feydrm: If you install a development version of Ubuntu Precise and keep up with package updates, then you will be upgraded to the official release of 12.04 when it comes out. To make sure, type « sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get dist-upgrade » in a terminal. [14:38] tc_busy: what ? [14:39] rtc: I don't need any help, I've not asked a question [14:39] ubottu: tyvm [14:39] rtc: sorry that was for tc_busy [14:39] rtc: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UpgradeNotes [14:39] ikonia sorry i got it from upgrade notes sorry for the bother [14:39] ha [14:39] thanks jrib [14:39] ikonia: that page has no info on upgrading from 10.04 to 12.04 [14:39] stefg: # = un privelged and % = root? [14:39] Menno: the language package for the interface. [14:39] rtc: it does [14:40] jrib: this page: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UpgradeNotes does not contain the string 12.04 [14:40] xpistos: ususally the other way round... bat that depends on your .profile [14:40] jrib: this page: http://www.ubuntu.com/download/desktop/upgrade has only info for upgrading from 11.10 to 12.04 [14:41] jrib: So I'm asking again: do I need to upgrade to 11.10 first? [14:41] rtc its step by step [14:41] it will be offered on 10.04 LTS when 12.04 has reached the first point release afaik [14:41] !outyet mohd [14:41] rtc yeah but try it out play a hunch [14:41] oops server error [14:41] jrib: Is there any way whatsoever to do an upgrade from 10.04 LTS to 12.04 LTS without upgrading to any intermediate release? [14:41] that you stefg [14:41] !outyet > mohd [14:41] mohd, please see my private message [14:41] stefg: Or thank you rather! [14:42] rtc: of course. One second while I load that page. That page certainly contained the information a few hours ago [14:42] I'm guessing it would be faster to install 12.04 than to do three upgrades [14:43] hi! do I'm on 11.04. do I have to update to 11.10 before i update to 12.04? [14:43] torment: yes [14:43] hi all, when i click the date widget in the top bar, the calendar pops up. In the calendar, i can click to select a day. Question: how to add an event and eventually have reminders ? [14:43] rtc: use this: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/PrecisePangolin/ReleaseNotes/UbuntuDesktop [14:43] what if I have a 10.04 LTS server, can it go directly to 12.04 ? [14:43] torment: yes see the link I just gave rtc [14:43] thanks jrib! [14:44] touchpad not working on samsung series 3 300v5a [14:44] torment: erm, except that's desktop instructions. Here's server: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/PrecisePangolin/ReleaseNotes/UbuntuServer [14:46] My ubuntu computer started lagging what do I do? [14:47] !details| domedagen [14:47] domedagen: Please give us full details. For example: "I have a problem with ..., I'm running Ubuntu version .... When I try to do ..., I get the following output: ..., but I expected it to do ..." [14:47] any chance anyone here could help me with setting up a chron job to download a file from a website? [14:47] ikonia: I tried the instructions at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/PrecisePangolin/ReleaseNotes/UbuntuDesktop and they don#t work [14:47] ikonia: It claims "A message will appear informing you of the availability of the new release" but this is not the case === hari_ is now known as harikt [14:48] ikonia: I suppose this is for the same reason that do-release-upgrade doesn't work [14:48] cliftonts: like what? [14:48] ikonia: since they probably use the same method to deteermine if a new release is avaiable [14:48] I don't really know much details. It is 11.04 and has been running great until now. I can start applications but to move windows around causes a freeze [14:48] where should I go to talk to members of canonical ? thanks [14:49] what should I do to enable gnome-shell in Precise? I installed gnome-shell package but it segfaults [14:49] I just installed the new 12.04... its kind of bugging.. Im running on a Dell Notebook with nVidia OPTIMUS.. I mean... there are two graphic cards, onboard (intel) and nvidia (gt 540m).. is there anyone with the same problem? === mh0- is now known as mh0 [14:49] Hi All! Congrats with the 12.04 release! I installed 12.04 Beta 2 a week ago. Will I need to upgrade this to the final 12.04 or is it the same? [14:49] my D/L speedsa re down to 4.5kB [14:49] Hi all, I have a quick question. Is there a document somewhere that talks about the differences between Ubuntu Desktop and Server? I assume it's manily differences in pre-installed packages, but it would be good to know for sure. [14:49] Aga: I think you should upgrade [14:49] RxDx: look at bumblebee https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Bumblebee [14:49] rtc: from the update manager > settings , change the release type to any release , then check again for an upgrade. [14:49] !wiki |marek [14:49] marek: http://wiki.ubuntu.com - Ubuntu development documentation wiki. If you are looking for system help, please refer to https://help.ubuntu.com/community - the Ubuntu community documentation. [14:50] quick question - how do I sign into freenode using xchat irc? [14:50] also, is it possible to use the Gnome Network Manager in precise? [14:50] marek_, there is a server section and also a desktop section hope that that helps [14:50] sameee_, freenode is in default network list [14:50] sary: Now it says "New Ubuntu release 10.10 is available", but not 12.04 [14:50] sameee_: from the nework lis , find freenode and connect to it. [14:50] stefg, thanks.. but now its not identifying my onboard intel graphics.. its saying UNKOWN =\ [14:51] stefg, them i think im running unity 2D... how can i know if my Unity is 2D or 3D? [14:51] Hi guys, I have a Macbook Air. Do you reckon I should use Ubuntu 12.04 64 bit? Or should I got for the 32 bit? Is the 64 bit stable enough nowadays, is the performance improvement worth the hassle? [14:51] cool, thanks! [14:52] RxDx, pick the one at login aka lightdm screen press the ubuntu button next to your password box [14:52] Stanley00: Should I upgrade by waiting for the automatical upgrade via the update manager, or should I reinstall? [14:52] bobweaver, k.. ill try.. thanks [14:52] np lets us know if you have issues at all [14:52] RxDx, ^^ [14:52] 64bit o 32bit? [14:52] :) [14:53] trying to install ubuntu on 8gb usb using universal usb installer but only get 4gb space ....how can i fix that? [14:53] I guess its just " sudo apt-get update && dist-upgrade " to upgrade to 12.04 right? [14:53] rtc: right , you must upgrade to 10.10 and the next one until you get the option for 12.04 , but first make sure you update any packages that is shown in the updae manager , then go for the upgrade [14:53] How does one reenable the sources upgrade disabled without manually editing each file? [14:53] Aga: just use update manager or apt. No need to reinstall from beta. [14:53] Aga: I think just upgrade is good enough, [14:53] sary: no [14:54] thanks guys [14:54] Hey, stupid question: Why doesn't ubuntu offer me to upgrade as soon as I log in like it did for Natty? [14:54] reaper: cool I didn't know about the dist-upgrade command [14:54] anyone updates to ubuntu 12.04 LTS yet? [14:54] Christoph_vW: no ! [14:54] *anyone updated to ubuntu 12.04 yet? [14:55] sary: But I was told above that I can to an upgrade to 12.04 directly, and I specifically asked if that was correct.... and if I needed to upgrade to some intermediate release first [14:55] DLing 12.04 right now...very slowly [14:55] Really? [14:55] sary: So do I get it right, is an upgrade from 10.04 LTS to 12.04 LTS definitely impossible? [14:55] How slow? [14:55] i upgraded from the beta [14:55] Rhaedas: via torrent or direct dl? [14:55] lol [14:55] if you go to 10.10, then you'd have to step through the rest [14:55] What are your specs, Rhaedas? [14:56] i am not going to upgrade for a week or more, [14:56] rtc, lts to lts, one step [14:56] the current updates are also taking a lot of time to download [14:56] in fact i will only upgrade when i buy a new laptop [14:56] touchpad not working on samsung series 3 300v5a [14:56] through update manager [14:56] bazhang: Yes, but how?! [14:56] "If currently running lucid, we'll not prompt them for LTS to LTS upgrade until the point release comes out. (12.04.1)." [14:56] i can't wait till windows 8 [14:56] https://blueprints.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+spec/foundations-p-lts-upgrades [14:56] !ot | a_b0y [14:56] a_b0y: #ubuntu is the Ubuntu support channel, for all Ubuntu-related support questions. Please use #ubuntu-offtopic for other topics (though our !guidelines apply there too). Thanks! [14:56] rtc: oh , right it's in your case since you're running an LTS. so yes [14:57] hi [14:57] linqering [14:57] hello? [14:57] sary: But it does not work... I guess it is because of what Christoph_vW quoted? [14:57] sary: I have to wait for the point release? [14:57] Christoph_vW: ah , i was not aware of that . === oscarpaats_ is now known as ozpy [14:58] hi guys, i installed ubuntu 12.04 and gnome-shell but cannot get any extensions work. i try through extensions.gnome.org with no luck so far... what should i do? [14:59] rtc: if not , then yes as Christoph_vW mentioned above. [14:59] Can someone fix the torrent link for Kubuntu please? It's no fun downloading 600mb with 150k/s from the server >-> http://torrent.ubuntu.com/kubuntu/simple/precise/desktop/kubuntu-12.04-desktop-amd64.iso.torrent [14:59] :) [15:00] hey assurbanipal gnome-shell extensions working fine here. === mint is now known as tc_busy [15:00] g [15:00] I've installed gnome-panel in 12.04 but the graphics is very slow. how do I loose the fading of menus etc? [15:01] sary, what can i do mate?i tried removing and reinstalling all gnome-shell related packages (i think all) but still no luck [15:01] j #java === naruk is now known as emili [15:02] so what is the topic on ubuntu+1 now? [15:03] hello, anyone here? === mattias is now known as Guest68706 [15:03] hi [15:03] yes [15:03] How are you guich [15:03] question about upgrade to 12.04 [15:03] assurbanipal: what happens when you try to apply an extension from extensions.gnome.org ! [15:03] trough update-manager? or via Live USB? (clean install /upgrade?) [15:03] TheBigRedOne: read the upgrade notes [15:04] sary, the indication on/off switches, but nothing else happens, not even an error [15:04] !upgrade >TheBigRedOne [15:04] TheBigRedOne, please see my private message [15:04] cool bot :) [15:04] yup [15:05] TheBigRedOne: got it [15:05] I want the standard commandline svn client, but I'm completely confused by the multitude of options under aptitude search svn [15:05] yeh i did, how is the 64Bit version with 12.04? i have 32bit now cause it has been "recommended" [15:06] TheBigRedOne: well i havent tried it yet but you can try as it is LTS [15:06] hi [15:06] assurbanipal: wich version of gnome-shell you're running ... [15:06] what about 12.04 lts final ? [15:06] hroi: subversion [15:06] sary, 3.4.1 [15:07] hmm, but to move from 32 -> 64 is clean install right? [15:07] yes [15:07] most probably, [15:07] sary, on ubuntu 12.04 64bit [15:07] anyone know where I can file a bug for 12.04 and debian documentation browser the icons are not working [15:07] wait TheBigRedOne ask a pro [15:07] !bugs | bobweaver [15:07] bobweaver: If you find a bug in Ubuntu or any of its derivatives, please file a bug using the command « ubuntu-bug » - See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/ReportingBugs for other ways to report bugs. [15:07] thansk jrib [15:08] what is the HUD keybinding [15:08] jrib: thanks [15:08] assurbanipal:did you installed gnoe-shell from a ppa ? [15:08] technoviking, you can press super+fn to ssee all bindings of short cuts [15:09] not sure if that is what you are after or not technoviking [15:09] are people getting an upgrade notice for 12.04 in apt yet? [15:10] sary, i have tried several stuff and i might have messed with tha ppa's... if I remove all extra ppa's and reinstall gnome shell, shouldn't it be fine? [15:10] gnome-panel is painfully slow... any idea what can be done about it? [15:10] Hello :D how do i put pidgin minimized in thecesarcasio [15:11] BrixSat: gsettings set com.canonical.Unity.Panel systray-whitelist "['JavaEmbeddedFrame', 'Wine', 'scp-dbus-service', 'Update-notifier', 'Pidgin']" === jsoa_ is now known as jsoa [15:11] will clonezilla image a logical drive [15:11] BrixSat: alt-f2 and type unity --replace === caravone is now known as caravone123 [15:11] bourke: im on the gnome-session-fallback [15:12] BrixSat: then i think you should be able to just turn on the notification icon in the pidgin prefs? [15:12] assurbanipal: yeah i would do that , perhaps youve installed the shell + shell-extensions from a ppa wich might be out of date. [15:12] bourke: but when i close pidgin it should stay running, not quit, it should be in the "envelope icon" in the taskbar [15:13] sary, how do i switch to the original ppas only? [15:13] assurbanipal: also , check if" GSettings " is installed. [15:14] Now when I boot 12.04 on this asus u46e I get grub and not the standard install menu [15:14] BrixSat: sorry not sure then [15:15] anyone know how can I kick the update notifier into letting me download 12.04? [15:15] just starting my update to the new version :D [15:16] having trouble making an image of a logical partion can someon assist [15:16] sary, which gnome-shell u have?i have gsettings already installed === Max` is now known as Max^ [15:17] assurbanipal: Disable any ppa other than the official 1's. === Zef is now known as rrc [15:18] when i select a partion , it seems to mout the entire physical drive === rrc is now known as mIHBG [15:19] assurbanipal: gnome-shell 3.4.1 . [15:20] sary, could it be old conf files?because i had gnome shell with mint before trying it on ubuntu [15:20] assurbanipal: the qustion is what's the version of gnome-shell-extensions you got installed. [15:20] It's good to see that ubuntu.com is back :) [15:20] GG111: :) [15:20] GG1111: did it go down [15:21] Hi everybody ! [15:21] Hi Dr. Nick! [15:21] hi everyonfe [15:21] I'm having trouble installing 12.04 as a dual boot on my 64bit machine. Can anyone help? [15:21] DigitalDK: what's the problem ? [15:21] A bit of help [15:21] http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/dists/quantal/main/installer-amd64/current/images/netboot/ [15:21] sary, when i look for gnome-shell-extensions packege in synaptic, it brings up nautilus-extension1a as installed, and only that [15:21] Thats the latest release of Ubuntu right [15:21] It copy's all files then hangs once I select a time zone? [15:21] assurbanipal: am not sure what you mean by that! [15:21] its was not added to https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation/MinimalCD but i guss its that one [15:22] DiditalDK make a fresh install and then just update the grub simple [15:22] Whiskey, the latest one is 12.10 image [15:22] yeh [15:22] what clonezilla does not offer compression on partion imaging only on phyical disk [15:22] NurseDad: yes, the site was down, for a while. [15:22] i do know that, but i asked if it was the version i found on the ftp but not listen on the help yet [15:22] Whiskey, we do support it now, [15:22] sary, i search for gnome-shell-extension package through synaptic. as a result it brings up libnautilus-extension1a [15:22] since it was release today [15:23] Yeh i do know that two [15:23] ffs [15:23] sary, no other than that [15:23] https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation/MinimalCD [15:23] 12.10 its not listed there right [15:23] GG111L thats great probably downloads of 12.04 [15:23] assurbanipal: ah , so gnome-shell extensions is not installed . [15:23] Whiskey, the latest www.ubuntu.com/start-download?distro=desktop&bits=64&release=lts [15:23] DigitalDK: any other details you can tell ? [15:23] sary, yes, and not available in my packages... how come? [15:23] what idiots its is here [15:23] Why do you think i wanne have the desktop? [15:24] Whiskey, be nice with that attitude you won't get help and in fact you might get remove from the channel, so please keep your comments to your self thank you [15:24] DigitalDK: the site is very busy maybe wait a little while. Not sure that's it but could be [15:25] GG111 what else do you need? I'm using a vustom built desktop with 8GB of RAM a quad core processor and it's just hanging on select time zone. I click continue and it just sits there with the busy icon for the mouse. [15:25] DJ i show exactly what i want, i does exactly say what i need, And you show me something completly else why? [15:25] anyone clonzilla help [15:25] DigitalDK: the other OS is windows ? [15:25] Whiskey, lose the attitude [15:25] sary, are u here mate? [15:25] :p [15:25] :D [15:25] NurseDad it was doing the same thing ast night when I was trying to install the beta I let it sit for an hour ad nothing. [15:25] Whiskey, what type of installation are you looking for be specific [15:25] hi! I want update the lucid laptop of my mother to precise. Is the process smooth or I need make backup and pray to don't get fatal bugs? [15:25] calme down buddies [15:25] bazhang: Whats wrong know? It was a questiono [15:26] GG111 yeah it's a dual boot with win7 [15:26] well the third time https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation/MinimalCD [15:26] DigitalDK: did you ever have a dual boot on that system ? [15:26] DigitalDK: i am on a new duel boot of win 7 and 12.04 [15:26] Whiskey, the servers are still syncing. [15:26] Whiskey, and 12.10 is not out for 6 months [15:27] GG111 a long time ago but I had to do a fresh install of windows because the updates corrupted my system. [15:27] Yeh i did notice [15:27] GG111 so I formatted everything and started new. [15:27] My bad [15:27] but we try again, the 12.04 is not on that page anyways [15:27] Whiskey, so be patient while they sync [15:27] But i guss http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/dists/quantal/main/installer-amd64/current/images/netboot/ is that one i search for [15:27] NurseDad yeah I figured a lot of people are doing it, but this is the second time it's hung like this on me. [15:27] DigitalDK: mm.. so the answer is no, well, that's a very nasty stage to be stuck at, so, Ubuntu copies the files OK, but never starts installing, correct ? [15:28] Whiskey, thats quantal. 12.10 [15:28] kk what was 12.04 called? [15:28] GG111 that's correct. I click continue before it finishes copying and just gets stuck with the busy icon for the mouse even though the copying continues. [15:28] * Slyfer slaps Whiskey around a bit with a large trout [15:28] can someone help me? upgrading to 12.04 i get an "error: no such partition" for all OSes [15:28] Whiskey, precise pangolin [15:28] GG111 after it copies though it just sits and sits and sits. [15:28] * Slyfer slaps Whiskey around a bit with a large trout [15:28] is it grub or something? [15:29] Slyfer, stop that [15:29] assurbanipal: you need to install the gnome-shell-extensions , since you have gnome-shell 3.4.1 .. the last version of gnome-shell-extensions is 3.4.0 . [15:29] DigitalDK: nasty stuff, mm.. anything in your Bios that can prevent dual boot ? [15:29] DJ: Im affraid i own you an excuse [15:29] I'm running 11.10 how do I upgrade to 12.04 LTS? [15:29] sary, yes but is not available in my repos! [15:29] Whiskey, Perhaps this is what you're looking for? http://torrent.ubuntu.com:6969/ [15:29] with update-manager? [15:29] GG111 not that I can think of, I was doing it just fine like 6 months ago. Everything is the same as it was then. [15:29] yes jatt [15:29] jatt: sudo do-release-upgrade -d [15:30] assurbanipal: ive just made a system update , and the shell-extensions broked! [15:30] hi, anyone have access to a torrent to 12.04 64bit? [15:30] 10 hour eta on download :( [15:30] GirlyGirl, thats not correct [15:30] assurbanipal: http://git.gnome.org/browse/gnome-shell-extensions [15:30] sary, whf?what dioes that mean? [15:30] so this one "http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/dists/precise/main/installer-amd64/current/images/netboot/" [15:30] GirlyGirl, it's been released, and the -d switch is for development not released [15:31] Hi I need to know where this is \admin_tools\theming\static\admin_tools\images\django.png how do I search ? [15:31] bazhang: Ah yes forgot about that [15:31] DigitalDK: OK, can't nail this one directly, here's what I would have gone for, had it been my problem : 1. Is the Media OK ? 2. Bios settings 3. Is the Hard drive write proteced in any way [15:31] sary, what am i supposed to do there mate? :P [15:31] sary, commit some code myself/? :D [15:32] assurbanipal: i think it might means tha both the shell and the shell-extensions version must match ! === Twinkletoes_ is now known as Twinkletoes [15:32] DigitalDK: also, is you HD partitoned, or you're going for Dual boot on the same partitions witn W7 ? === miguel is now known as Guest31790 [15:32] anyone: thoughts on why 3 computers saw the LTS upgrade and are upgrading, yet 1 says no updates are available? all have the same settings. [15:32] Whiskey, That would be for 64 bit. Is that what you need? === Guest31790 is now known as TronTror [15:32] yep === TronTror is now known as TronThor [15:32] crypted, from which version [15:32] sary, so...? what am i supposed to do?this still doesn;t answer why i don;t have that package available, i think [15:33] GirlyGirl: so do-release-upgrade -d will upgrade to a development version? [15:33] okay this is strange. [15:33] bazhang: it shows it now if i remove only show LTS [15:33] jatt, dont use the -d switch [15:33] it shows 12.04 LTS after i say any version instaed of just LTS [15:33] too late lol [15:33] makes no sense to me [15:33] GG111 well the disc I just finished downloading the ISO from torrent linked from the ubuntu site. I haven't changed anything in the BIOS since I last dual booted besides some clock frequencies. As for the HDD I've done a dual boot partition several times before so as far as I can tell it's not write protected it's just being a pain in the ass. Maybe I should try writing the file to a disc at a slower speed? [15:33] anyone - please, after my update to 12.04 i got an "error: no such partition" while booting [15:33] the fetching looks correct though: [15:33] Get:83 http://de.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ precise/main vim-common i386 2:7.3.429-2ubuntu2 [86.3 kB] [15:33] Man, I picked the wrong time to get into Ubuntu, haha [15:33] precise pangolin, no? [15:34] No. [15:34] jatt: For now -d is ok as 12.10 repos do not exist yet but best not to use it in future [15:34] ok thanks [15:34] Hello. Help! I'm looking for good and easy-to-use DLNA server (for TV connectiong) based on GUI or at least with good front-end. Thanks! [15:34] your update manager should show it available too if your settings allow it [15:34] jatt, yes 12.04 [15:35] assurbanipal: i wounder myself , hold up .. [15:35] ghabit, this is ubuntu support. [15:35] Are it someone that is relly smart in here [15:35] DigitalDK: maybe, I guess anything goes at this stage, I have my share of bad luck in the past with installs, and I learned that it reaaly depends on *excactly* where the install gets stuck to know - what's causing it. [15:35] Whiskey, pardon? [15:36] All Linux Distos no matter what it is i think come else as x86 [15:36] Or AMDx64 [15:36] And why in the hell is it named AMD? i mean Intel also has x64 i relly don´t get that :D [15:36] GG111 and getting stuck after making the partition and copying files isn't one you're used too? :P [15:36] Whiskey, thats offtopic for here [15:36] DigitalDK: also, I'm not sure if ubuntu keeps an install log anywhere, that would have been a dead giveaway to your problem. [15:36] Whiskey, that info is easily searchable on the internet [15:36] Whiskey, i think u just need to do some homework before coming and calling people names in public [15:37] GG111, look in /var/log [15:37] DigitalDK: well, yes, happend, it was bad Media. [15:37] Give it a break :=) it can´t be we still talk about Ubuntu dirsto or can do atlest [15:37] !ot | Whiskey [15:37] Whiskey: #ubuntu is the Ubuntu support channel, for all Ubuntu-related support questions. Please use #ubuntu-offtopic for other topics (though our !guidelines apply there too). Thanks! [15:37] kk [15:37] Question, I upgraded from 12.04 Beta and my Privacy Manager feature seems to be missing from System Settings [15:37] DJ: will there be a /var/log for an install that did not finish ? [15:37] after upgrading and rebooting... I can't see any panels [15:37] only desktop with icons [15:37] no unity, no top panel [15:37] no [15:37] nothing [15:37] :/ [15:37] woozly: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation. [15:38] my bluetooth dongle cannot find any devices [15:39] GG111 I'll just try writing the disc at a slower rate I guess. It's still stuck on that screen so I'll reset, reformat, and try to reinstall. [15:39] how can I search for this \admin_tools\theming\static\admin_tools\images\django.png how do I search ? [15:39] when I compile a program from source, do I need to move it somewhere afterwards (the folder I mean) [15:39] Fyodorovna, yeah, I am just installed ubuntu and looking for software for ubuntu. [15:39] hey, congrats everyone on 12.04. quick question, if i have 12.04 beta2 installed, should i just run updates to get the final 12.04, or should i reinstall completely from the 12.04 disc? [15:39] blob4000, yes [15:39] DigitalDK: sucks that you use Windows, if you have a machine that you can try and use this media on, you could see if the media is bad. [15:40] !final | blob4000 [15:40] blob4000: If you install a development version of Ubuntu Precise and keep up with package updates, then you will be upgraded to the official release of 12.04 when it comes out. To make sure, type « sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get dist-upgrade » in a terminal. [15:40] ghabit, cool. [15:40] Hey guys! =) I thought, lets install the nvidia drivers for my macbook, but that fucked things up =), does anyone know how to go back to "default" ? [15:40] or autoconfigure it the ubuntu way? [15:40] DigitalDK: also, if you're going the "bad media" router, did you verify the MD5 on this download ? [15:40] vespakoen, no cursing here [15:40] nm, I found it in software center. I thought Privacy Manager was a default App [15:40] Fyodorovna, lu4she bi podskazal. [15:40] DigitalDK: route=router [15:41] hehe =D === brainproxy_ is now known as brainproxy [15:41] hello [15:41] I need help with ubuntu [15:41] GG111 I didn't verify unfortunately but I figured getting a torrent right from the ubuntu DL page I wouldn't need too >.< [15:41] I am getting an error for a Varnish repo NOT FOUND on Ubuntu 11.10 but I cant find it in my sources.list [15:41] I just installed ubuntu [15:41] how can i remove it? [15:41] how can i access my windows files? [15:41] DigitalDK: Ubuntu.com is back up, you can grab a coppy from there. [15:42] abny help [15:42] plz [15:42] i need help [15:42] GG111 thanks for all the help, I hopefully won't be back. [15:42] DigitalDK: at least you'll know it the system, for sure, if a brand new download and CD burs gives you the same error. [15:42] ow to access windows files [15:42] !helpme | noobie_ [15:42] noobie_: Avoid following your questions with a trail of "Please, help me", "Can nobody help me?", "I really need this!", and so on. This just contributes to making the channel unreadable. If you are not answered, ask again later; but see also !repeat and !attitude [15:42] great work with 12.04. flawless update so far :) [15:42] patience noobie_ [15:43] did you install Ubuntu in a separate partition? [15:43] man, wha'ts up with my typos. [15:43] thanks bazhang [15:43] Hello. Help! I'm looking for good and easy-to-use DLNA server (for TV connectiong) based on GUI or at least with good front-end. Thanks! [15:43] !helpme plz, I really need to access my windows files [15:43] noobie_: I am only a bot, please don't think I'm intelligent :) [15:43] OO [15:43] well, I know what's up, I'm in Starbucks, and 5 people talking sound line 5000, why shout ? [15:44] so [15:44] noobie: did you install Ubuntu in a separate partition or drive? [15:44] noobie_, stop repeating every five seconds [15:44] a partition? [15:44] what's one of them === mint is now known as tc_busy [15:44] I told it to overwrite windows [15:44] um [15:44] I assume it keep files right? [15:45] noobie_: no [15:45] wat [15:45] what kind of stupidd installer is it then [15:45] if it can't even keep files [15:45] noobie_: if you told the installed to run over the previous OS, the files are gone. [15:45] yes [15:45] OS [15:45] it did ask you if you wanted to overwrite WIndows [15:45] not user data [15:45] noobie_: if user date is on the same partition , then it's gone. [15:45] what [15:45] if you had a C: and D: drive, C: is gone, D: is there. [15:46] noooooo [15:46] noobie: usually you can find Win files through "Nautilus", which starts when you select 'places' from the top bar or the icon of the filefolder when you popout icons along the left margin. [15:46] GG111: is there any way I can recover files? [15:46] some sort of undelete tool for linux? [15:46] noobie_: this is not a windows upgrade, ubuntu deletes all data in the c drive(or whatever drive it was installed in) [15:46] noobie_: how important were they ? [15:46] eh [15:47] some of them were important [15:47] noobie_ maybe your windows files are encrypted? [15:47] I think I ahve backups [15:47] καλησπερα θελω να κανω μια ερωτηση καθως και νεος στο linux και στο ubuntu... Εχω αναβαθμισει την διανομη 12.04 απο 11.10 και θα ηθελα να ρωτησω αν χρειαζεται να κανω καθαρη εγκατασταση την final εκδοση η αν θα ενημερωθει αυτοματα η beta εκδοση 12.04 μεσω ενημερωσε [15:47] ων και πως θα το καταλαβω αυτο [15:47] !gr | atsi [15:47] atsi: #ubuntu-gr και #kubuntu-gr για Έλληνες χρηστές / #ubuntu-gr kai #kubuntu-gr gia Ellhnes xrhstes [15:47] I use rhythmbox on kubuntu for music. Anyone know why the repeat and shuffle icons are missing? tried finding info online but nothing I found seemed to work. [15:47] hello, having trouble mounting the ecryptfs encrypted home directory on an external hard drive (formerly internal). Problem is the /media/s7ds6g87fdf8g6d8fg/.ecryptfs directory is linked to /home/.ecryptfs which does not exist! Can someone help please? [15:47] noobie_: every one who ever dealt with linux ended up nuking all their files, at least once. [15:47] Hi. I'm missing locale information, it seems. I tried dpkg-reconfigure locales, but that only rebuilt existing locale info and didn't allow me to add new ones. What do I have to do? [15:47] noobie: you TOLD the installer to replace windows, so it did. [15:48] noobie_ maybe try to take the hard drive and install it on a computer with windows to see if it recognizes it [15:48] I backup my important stuff on google dodcs [15:48] GG111: I'm sure not everyone did that [15:48] so my most important tuff is there] [15:48] noobie_: so , no worries, you are actually in a better place, you got rid of Windows . [15:48] actually [15:48] worse [15:48] ALL MAH GAMES [15:49] noobie_: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation. [15:49] I GOTTA DOWNLOAD THEM AGAIN [15:49] GirlyGirl: I did, so does everybody I know. computer sciecse grads included. [15:49] ALL 100GB OF THEM [15:49] noobie_ if you are a noob, maybe your files are still on the computer you just don't know where to find it because linux doesn't have drives like C: B: D:... etc [15:49] when I installed my first asterisk server, I nuked a 250 GB drive, full with good stuff. [15:50] and this was a time that 250GB was a *lot* of data. [15:50] noobie_ did you mount the drive? [15:50] I have precice pangolin beta installed a week ago, I don't need to do anything, correct? I am LTS now? [15:50] GG111: Luckily since I've used the really old versions of Windows like 3.1 where everything was manual, I never did that. I did put the bootloader on wrong drives though [15:50] ubuntu's ftp / apt-get servers seem slow :) or is it just me? [15:51] GirlyGirl: cool for you then. [15:51] MrKeuner: with sudo apt-get dist-upgrade , yes [15:51] 889 kB/s here [15:51] blob4000, its the first day of release, thats normal [15:51] GirlyGirl, thanks [15:51] blob4000: the whole world is getting 12.04 now, yes, slow. [15:51] blob4000, torrents are a better option at this point in time [15:51] thanks. [15:52] is it just me, or is Linux really taking off this year? [15:52] GG111, the reverse is true for me, I'm still lugging around files from my pre-Linux days. [15:52] linux took off years ago [15:52] blob4000, thats a good topic for #ubuntu-offtopic [15:52] kk [15:53] just excited for ubuntu, considering the lackluster release Windows 8 might be [15:53] blob4000, For a faster d/l using a bit-torrent, please see here: http://torrent.ubuntu.com:6969/ [15:53] Baribal: files are crap, I try and be the leaset dependent on files. there's only one computer I own that has important files, and backed to so many place that I can't tell them without reading the script. all the other computer, can be nuked on the dime. no tears. [15:53] My wifi dies after upgrading from 11.04 ->11.10. How can that be fixed? [15:53] Sidewinder: thanks [15:53] blob4000, My pleasure. :-) [15:54] GG111, good to know, but I don't think that has to do with me never nuking all my files because of Linux. :) [15:54] hi, I've this xorg.conf http://pastebin.com/N8SacSFW but on each boot I always get 1024x768 by default. I need to go to System Settings->Display and choose 1680x1050 from the available one and then click Apply. Then it works. Maybe there is something wrong in my xorg.conf, how can I fix it? Thanks! p.s: I'm using Ubuntu 12.04 and Nouveau driver. [15:54] martin_tsc: run apt-get update && apt-get upgrade , reboot , see if Wifi is back [15:54] i finde precise-dvd-i386.iso 23-Apr-2012 15:00 1.5G Install/live DVD for PC (Intel x86) computers (standard download) in http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/dvd/current/ .it is 12.4 dvd version? [15:54] but it is for 23 april [15:54] guys having a problem upgrading from beta2 to release.....i tried dist-upgrade , upgrade, update, nada says I'm updated [15:54] Andy80, post /var/log/Xorg.0.log to another pastebin, it probably shows what your problem is [15:54] Baribal: I didnot loose importnat files my self, I nuked them yes, but what was needed, I still have. [15:55] GG111, thanks i'll try that [15:55] k4f1r, what does lsb_release -a say in the terminal [15:56] Question - Does Ubuntu One delete files at all? Reason I ask is, let's say I have Ubuntu One set up on my Android to sync my pictures to Ub1. If I delete pictures on my phone, would that "delete" change filter upt hrough Ubuntu One and to my computers? Or does it not delete anything? [15:56] hey guys, kind of my first go around with a ATI card (deffinitely not new to linux, been using for 10 years or so). I got a T60 with a x1300 mobility. According to thinkwiki, radeon and radeonhd support this card, and even do 3d with newer mesa versions (i believe this was written a few years ago). It also says the blob fglrx supports it, and from what I have read this will give the best performance, but I tried installing catalyst drivers, and it says [15:56] I dont have a supported device. Any ideas? [15:56] Roj, perhaps wait for the servers to by synced. [15:56] david_r: here you have my /var/log/Xorg.0.log --> http://pastebin.com/YxBxaA4t [15:56] roasted, try #ubuntuone [15:56] No LSB modules are available. [15:56] Distributor ID: Ubuntu [15:56] Description: Ubuntu 12.04 LTS [15:56] Release: 12.04 [15:56] Codename: precise [15:56] k4f1r: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation. [15:56] k4f1r, then you are at final [15:56] hi [15:57] bazhang: didn't know it existed. thanks! [15:57] how do I get the latest kernel then? [15:57] i have a core i3 cpu, should i download the 32 bit or 64 bit ubuntu 12.04? [15:57] I'm trying to troubleshoot a VPN issue. Which logs should I tail so I can see why it keeps dropping? [15:57] k4f1r, latest being what [15:57] k4f1r: ouch, http://paste.ubuntu.com/ [15:57] Hey, questions [15:57] 64bit [15:57] and paste the link back here [15:57] mouth1, is that 32 or 64 bit [15:57] core i3 is 64 bit [15:58] mouth1, then use 64 [15:58] newer cpus are all 64bit [15:58] will apps be supported on 64 bit? [15:58] How do I find themes for Ubuntu 12.04. how do i set up my wireless printer, and why is my bluetooth so wishy washy? [15:58] latest being 3.2.1-24 or 3.2.0-24 instead of 23 [15:58] thanks [15:58] mouth1, yes [15:58] ok thanks [15:58] Hello. Help! I'm looking for good and easy-to-use DLNA server (for TV connectiong) based on GUI or at least with good front-end. Thanks! [15:58] Gentlemen... How do I add/install locales? [15:58] is there some lag time before do-release-upgrade is available from 10.04 to 12? [15:58] mac_, check printer at linuxprinting.org and give more info than "wishy-washy" [15:59] Well, I have a sound bar, it rarely connects. only off a freshboot like starting up [15:59] colon_D, is your package manager checked to look only for lts? [15:59] it never can reconnect after being with one device or after going to sleep. It's really weird and Thanks [16:00] k4f1r, here, not via PM please [16:00] bazhang: yeah, prompt=normal does the regular maverick upgrade, but prompt-lts gives me no new release found. this is for a server. === Twinkletoes_ is now known as Twinkletoes [16:00] colon_D, which servers are you pointed at in sources.list [16:01] Any hints how to decrypt a home filesystem via ecryptfs manually (I do know the passphrase, I'm just trying to restore some files from a backup) [16:01] david_r: you got any idea from my log file? === el-seano_ is now known as el-seano [16:01] Andy80, your xorg.conf lacks a "screen" section, in the logfile it says No monitor specified for screen "Default Screen Section". Using a default monitor configuration. [16:01] yacc: cryptsetup luksOpen something someting [16:01] where can i post a screenshot? like a text field in ubuntu.paste.com something right? [16:02] bazhang: the typical us.archive.ubuntu.com: http://paste.ubuntu.com/947558/ [16:02] !paste | Fat-Thing [16:02] Fat-Thing: For posting multi-line texts into the channel, please use http://paste.ubuntu.com | To post !screenshots use http://imagebin.org/?page=add | !pastebinit to paste directly from command line | Make sure you give us the URL for your paste - see also the channel topic. [16:02] david_r: oh... where can I find a xorg.conf example so I can adapt it to my needs? [16:02] let me paste mine [16:02] colon_D, thats odd. they should be synced by now. perhaps wait a bit, or switch servers and try again [16:02] beandog, encrypted home filesystem => that's not block-level encryption. [16:02] david_r: thanks :) [16:03] hmm, no one hear can offer me any help? it seems whenever i come here my questions are ignored, as if they are too advanced or something [16:04] n0yd, whats the issue [16:04] Andy80: If I recall there is a command that will create the xorg.conf file that you system uses as it's default if none is found and you can edit that [16:04] bazhang, its above but i will posty [16:04] hey guys, kind of my first go around with a ATI card (deffinitely not new to linux, been using for 10 years or so). I got a T60 with a x1300 mobility. According to thinkwiki, radeon and radeonhd support this card, and even do 3d with newer mesa versions (i believe this was written a few years ago). It also says the blob fglrx supports it, and from what I have read this will give the best performance, but I tried installing catalyst drivers, and it says [16:04] I dont have a supported device. Any ideas? [16:05] n0yd, tried installing from where [16:05] hi, where i can find list of changes in Ubuntu 12.04? [16:05] okay here's mine: http://pastebin.com/ZuHzwmBn - I'm using two monitors and the nvidia driver, if you're using one monitor you should adjust that, also you're using the open source driver so change that under "device" or install the nvidia binaries. If you install the nvidia driver you can use the nvidia-settings tool to generate this file. [16:05] thanx ubottu === rymate12- is now known as rymate1234 [16:06] Matan[M], check the topic here [16:06] david_r: I wish I could use the Nvidia driver, but it crashes my Xorg so many times! I get something like 7-8 crashes per day and I really cannot stand it. [16:06] bazhang: sorry [16:06] Andy80: sounds like crappy hardware. [16:06] bazhang: thanks, I'll wait I suppose. I tried mirrors.mit.edu with the same result. [16:07] who's here? [16:07] david_r: mmm.... no I can't use it, it's pretty the same I was using when I used Nvidia driver, but too many things change [16:07] calculon, ubuntu support [16:07] Sorry to hear that. Another alternative to the xorg.conf changes is to figure out how to change the resolution with xrandr and then put the command in your ~/.xprofile file. [16:07] I like xubuntu 12.04 [16:08] http://imagebin.org/209846 [16:08] what is the checksum for ubuntu 12.04 desktop amd64 ? [16:08] Andy80: maybe this command? http://manpages.ubuntu.com/manpages/lucid/man1/dexconf.1.html [16:08] !md5sums | mouth1 [16:08] mouth1: See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UbuntuHashes for the md5sums of Ubuntu discs. [16:09] Jordan_U, there is no 12.04 [16:09] !hashes | mouth1 [16:09] mouth1: See http://mirror.anl.gov/pub/ubuntu-iso/CDs/12.04/MD5SUMS for the md5sums of the latest Ubuntu release [16:09] thanks [16:09] david_r: you have right xrandr is the alternate. but as i had problems with nvidia drivers the best place is the ubuntu forum. And if you want to run your nvidia write you need to read a lot [16:10] hey guys... if I have the beta of 12.04... am I right in thinking I just need to run "apt-get upgrade" to get the final? [16:10] !final | Monotoko [16:10] Monotoko: If you install a development version of Ubuntu Precise and keep up with package updates, then you will be upgraded to the official release of 12.04 when it comes out. To make sure, type « sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get dist-upgrade » in a terminal. [16:11] thank you :) [16:11] hello everyone. how did you find the new release? [16:11] Are things broken in 12 or what? [16:11] DarkAceZ, no [16:11] nitzs works fine here, 'classic' gui [16:11] Cool. [16:12] Hi! Which is the right place to suggest new useful features to Ubu.developers ? [16:12] !brainstorm | nannes [16:12] nannes: Post your ideas for Ubuntu at http://brainstorm.ubuntu.com and vote for the ones you like! [16:12] You being serious? [16:13] DarkAceZ, ubuntu support question? [16:13] david_r: do you think that this new xorg.conf will fix my problem http://pastebin.com/nC9dGmqf ? [16:13] Isn't it? [16:13] bazhang: what if my english is not very well? I try there, or there is an italian channel? [16:13] what is the correct icon dir for makefiles ? example http://paste.ubuntu.com/947578/ thanks [16:13] twork.org [16:13] DarkAceZ, whats the issue: ask all on one line [16:13] It shouldn't hurt, try it and if it doesn't change anything post your new Xorg.0.log file. [16:13] !it | nannes [16:13] nannes: Vai su #ubuntu-it se vuoi parlare in italiano, in questo canale usiamo solo l'inglese. Grazie! (per entrare, scrivi « /join #ubuntu-it » senza virgolette) [16:14] When I do a release upgrade from 10.04 to 12.04 it says: No New Release Found. [16:14] I'm just wondering if things are broken. [16:14] lol..ok I go to that english page [16:14] DarkAceZ, thats not a support question [16:14] DarkAceZ, chit chat in #ubuntu-offtopic please [16:14] http://imagebin.org/209846 <---- anyone? seems i got a very very low connection :( [16:15] hey would Intel Dual Core (not 2) still be able to use the 64 bit of 12.04 [16:15] on both of my 11.10 on desktop one server I am getting no new release found when I do a sudo do-release-upgrade [16:16] When I do a release upgrade from 10.04 to 12.04 it says: No New Release Found. Why isnt the upgrade working? [16:16] david_r: ok, I try [16:16] bobweaver: I would say /usr/share/pixmaps/ if you are just copying that single icon, /usr/share/icons/ is more for icon themes (although it looks like cabextract decided to go the other way...) [16:16] Which option to choose in the additional drivers for the most up to date drivers? The post release or current? [16:16] i've done a apt-get update && apt-get upgrade [16:16] I have a plotter that has stopped working, I have been running 12.04 since b2 and it was fine. Since updating it no longer works [16:16] it is just a usb->serial connection [16:17] trism, https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/dwww/+bug/988937 [16:17] anyone know what has happened or how I could fix it? [16:17] Launchpad bug 988937 in dwww (Ubuntu) "Icon is not there for unity." [Undecided,New] [16:17] Fat-Thing: low connection? you mean slow Internet? [16:17] trism, I am trying to fix that bug [16:17] woo [16:17] I've done the apt-get update, apt-get upgrade and now the upgrade is not fround [16:17] this is gonna be fun [16:17] updating from 12.04 beta 2 to the full release [16:17] Hello. Help! I'm looking for good and easy-to-use DLNA server (for TV connectiong) based on GUI or at least with good front-end. Thanks! [16:18] ghabit, you have seen ubuntu tv >? [16:18] I assume i just use "sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get upgrade" [16:18] right? [16:18] sacarlson, yes! === ShooterM_ is now known as ShooterMG [16:18] yes rymate [16:18] When I do a release upgrade from 10.04 to 12.04 it says: No New Release Found. Why isnt the upgrade working? I followed instruction verbatim. What's the deal here [16:19] ghabit, http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jq_WaOLjdyQ [16:19] bobweaver, nope, just installed ubuntu and don't know any software [16:19] Fat-Thing: wifi or wired? [16:19] i've also tried sudo apt-get dist-upgrade [16:19] awisepilot try do-release-upgrade [16:19] ghabit, you might also like this http://www.omgubuntu.co.uk/2012/01/how-to-install-ubuntu-tv-right-now-via-ppa/ [16:19] bobweaver, wow, but how to use it? ^) On TV [16:19] welp here goes nothin upgrading from 11.10 to 12.04 [16:20] can i use unetbootin with ubuntu 12.04 even though it's not officially supported yet? [16:20] I did sudo do-release-upgrade and it says No New Release [16:20] Any ideas why postfix seems to stop running by itself? I have to restart it every couple of weeks [16:20] one more question - is there some difference between ubuntu updated to 12.04 and fresh install of 12.04? [16:21] bobweaver: he probably just doesn't have gnome-desktop-data installed, it is installed here and the icon is in /usr/share/pixmaps (and a desktop file finds it when I make a test one) [16:21] sacarlson, wired connection! [16:21] You cant upgrade from 10.04 to 12.04 so do a fresh install [16:21] It doesn't work [16:21] trism, that he is me and should that not install via control file ? [16:22] if it depends on it that is [16:22] awisepilot: yes you can. LTS to LTS. [16:22] fat-thing: when did it change? maybe mtu settings? http://compnetworking.about.com/od/networkprotocols/g/mtu-maximum.htm [16:22] david_r: once I login my resolution is set to 1680x1050, but on LightDM screen I still have 1024x768, now I'll paste you the new log, wait... [16:22] hey guys my logitech mic is freezing ubuntu [16:22] * Menno wonders what's ch anged from 3.2.0-22 to -23 [16:22] Hello. I am having an install problem: my usb stick freezes on an acer aspire one [16:22] Nope, I did a fresh install last night 10.04 and now today I am trying to upgrade to 12.04 and it says No new Release [16:22] can i use unetbootin with ubuntu 12.04 even though it's not officially supported yet? [16:22] mouth1: yes [16:23] Hi everyone! [16:23] Can anyone help me with python-sip problems with 12.04? (Google and Launchpad aren't helpful) [16:23] I should have waited a few more hours before wasting my time installing 10.04 since now I have to blow away 10.04 to get to 12.04. I just wish this stuff worked as printed. [16:23] awisepilot: Yeah, the LTS releases will wait a week or two before having 'everyone' upgrade. [16:23] david_r: here it is http://pastebin.com/8Y6qBg6m [16:24] awisepilot: For stability, but also for the fact that the upgrade servers are going to be molasses for a few days. [16:24] /build/buildd/sip4-4.13.2/siplib/siplib.c:10938: sipEnumType_alloc: Assertion `( ( ( currentType )->td_flags & 0x0007 ) == 0x0003 )' failed. [16:24] Aborted ( core dumped ) [16:24] Flannel: i thought thats the way to do i before , but i was told today that you have to wait for 12.04.1 to be released to upgrade from an LTS to the next. [16:24] Which version of Nvidia drivers are we installing with the Additional drivers thing on 12.04? [16:25] Is it so bloody hard to display the version of the driver in that application?! [16:25] sary: I've never heard that as policy. [16:25] dpaigen: you mean i freezes when you boot from it to try ubuntu ! [16:25] ok Menno thanks [16:25] trism, thanks ! you are awesome [16:25] can anyone help me figure out why my mic is freezing my computer [16:25] They should have not printed this link: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/PrecisePangolin/ReleaseNotes/UbuntuServer if they never intended for it to work until next week. [16:25] sary if I don't touch it the live system boots, if I try to arrow down it freezes [16:25] hey [16:26] The instruction are simple and easy but the delivery is bad! [16:26] Menno, what ubuntu version should i choose in unetbootin? [16:26] Menno OT: maybe this link is helpful https://www.linux.com/news/software/linux-kernel [16:26] 11.10 or daily live x64 ? === mrJack is now known as mrjack [16:27] If I install 12.04 from scratch and specify a certain partition as /home, can I avoid formatting it and keep my data in place? [16:27] Perhaps move dotfiles and such out of the way first [16:27] awisepilot: I'm not going to argue with you there. But Some people won't see it for a few days anyway just due to the nature of their mirror. I'm sure there's a way to insist right now, lets just figure out what it is. [16:28] dpaigen: so the issue comes from the usb stick itself , i thought youre having an issue booing to the live CD .. in that case it might a grahpic card issue but then you might be able to pass that with some boot-options. [16:28] bobweaver: no problem [16:28] A simple Oh the way, upgrading from 10.04 to 12.04 will be available next week. There should be a way Flannel, someone is just not telling us. [16:29] hi ppl [16:29] :) [16:29] david_r: I can't find any "not found" this time and the resolution is parsed and added (else I could not have it right now) the problem is still that is not used by default.... [16:29] MonkeyDust: -22 -23 are Ubuntu things [16:29] not upstream [16:29] osse: if the exsting box has /home partitioned separately, yes. If not, then no. [16:29] can i use startup disk creator that comes with ubuntu 11.10 to create an ubuntu 12.04 usb drive? [16:29] mouth1: What OS are you using to create the USB drive? [16:30] ubuntu 11.10 [16:30] is there a way to see the changelog.Debian without downloading the entire .deb? [16:30] Andy80 in your paste around 16.282 it says Virtual size is 1024x768 (pitch 0) [16:30] mouth1 i use Unetbootin [16:30] Jordan_U, ubuntu 11.10 [16:30] Hi, I'm trying to do an automated install on ubuntu 12.04 over the network and every time I get a message: Warning.. restricted/binary-amd64/Packages was corrupt [16:30] mouth1: Yes: http://www.ubuntu.com/download/help/create-a-usb-stick-on-ubuntu [16:30] thanks [16:30] sary this is an Acer laptop, an Asprire One 722. Radeon HD 6290 graphics. Any suggestions for boot options to change? [16:30] mouth1: You're welcome. [16:31] is there any reason that on both of my 11.10 boxes (one server and one desktop) that I get no new release found when I do-release-upgrade? [16:31] I've tried to apply solution of unzipping packages file, but then I get message: Couldn't retrieve Packages. This may be a network issue... [16:31] i've done an apt-get update [16:31] awisepilot: So, lets try the normal ones, are you fully up to date with 10.04? [16:31] david_r: maybe there is an option to specify the "virtual size" ? [16:31] DeadMeat67 ive had that a couple of times today even after doing apt-get update. i think it's just timing out when connecting to the server [16:31] Are there general issues booting older USB sticks on newer motherboards? [16:32] oh, OK, I'm not on the fastest of links to start with [16:32] thanks [16:32] Flannel: To the tee, I follow instruction precisely [16:32] buzzkill, yes the partition in question is my actual /home partition as we speak. I'd like to to a clean install because I have upgraded twice on this install and since I grew up with Windows I just assume at one point everything will break :P [16:32] Andy80 yes, try this: http://pastebin.com/XYdJfn4C [16:32] Everything is up to date [16:32] awisepilot: alright. And this is a server? or do you prefer the GUI? [16:33] someone please help me [16:33] i am getting this message [16:33] CCP terminated by peer (No compression negotiated^@) [16:33] Compression disabled by peer. [16:33] Even check the file release-upgrades and set Prompt=lts. [16:33] This is a server [16:33] Hi there. I installed ubuntu via wubi and i've been waiting for half an hour at the "Preparing to run Ubuntu for the first time..." screen. SHould I keep waiting or do something else? [16:33] awisepilot, LTS to LTS upgrades will only be offered for 12.04.1 [16:33] david_r: done, I'll reboot again. Thanks. [16:33] Jordan_U, i use AHCI, HPET 64 bit and Power Mode S3, does that work stable with ubuntu or should i revert back to default BIOS settings? [16:34] where is the MD5 string located at on the site? [16:34] ogra: not according to this link: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/PrecisePangolin/ReleaseNotes/UbuntuServer [16:34] CCP terminated by peer (No compression negotiated^@) [16:34] Compression disabled by peer. [16:34] Is gparted the best/only format recovery util I can try? .. It sees the drive and then says it can't make a read-only view of the disk due to locking issues (swap?) .. [16:34] please help me [16:34] awisepilot, well, then the policy has changed, we never offered LTS to LTS before .1 [16:35] would be a novum [16:35] osse: just make sure you document the existing partition (/dev/sd[a-z][0-9]) and choose manual partitioning. I would _always_ recommend a backup anyway, but I have done this without issue for many releases. [16:35] orgra: if the that is the case, the website needs to reflect that information [16:35] hey guys, any1 ever tried to boot ubuntu live from htc android phone via usb cable? [16:36] awisepilot: Give `do-release-upgrade -d` a try [16:36] Flannel: trying now [16:37] like install it on the sd card and then boot [16:37] I have an install of Ubuntu 12.04 Beta 2 and today it did an update via the update manager. Does that mean I know have the "final" version or do I have to do something special to go from Beta 2 to "final" version? [16:37] Flannel: U da man, it is working. Ogra: It is available, Flannel figured it out. Now someone needs to update the website to tell everyone the -d option. [16:38] Anyone know how to fix this? GPG error: http://archive.canonical.com precise Release: The following signatures were invalid: BADSIG 40976EAF437D05B5 Ubuntu Archive Automatic Signing Key === milind is now known as abyss42 [16:38] awisepilot worked for me, without the -d option [16:38] I downloaded the 12.04-desktop-amd64 torrent a few hours ago; Is it the beta2 or final? How can I tell? [16:38] beta2 has beta2 in hte name [16:38] jamesprice: hash it, then check against the md5 of the final (which you can get from the blagonets) [16:38] MonkeyDust: What was your prior version? [16:38] dpaigen: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BootOptions [16:38] cheers for ubuntu! [16:38] awisepilot it was 11.10, you have another? [16:39] thanks [16:39] awisepilot, oh, indeed if you force it to -d or --development that will always work :) [16:39] so glad the LTS is finally here, kudos to those working on the project. [16:39] buzzkill, backups are not a problem :) Do you do anything else before installing? I have a feeling that moving everything to a temporary dir and moving it back afterwards would be a good idea (at least move hidden conf files and stuff in the "standard" directories, XDG-something?= [16:39] awisepilot, i pinged the relevant people to fix the release notes to not give the impression it is available nefore .1 [16:39] *before [16:40] MonkeyDust: I am on 10.04 following the instructions for 10.04 to 12.04 and it does work as instructed by the website. You need the -d option as Flannel discovered. [16:40] by chance can someone tell me where can I get, an ubuntu minimal final release 12.04 ISO. [16:40] how do I upgrade to 12.04 from console? [16:40] awisepilot learned something new then [16:40] CCP terminated by peer (No compression negotiated^@) [16:40] Compression disabled by peer. [16:40] sudo do-release-upgrade [16:40] ron do-release-upgrade [16:40] Orga: It is available with the -d option. [16:40] What's a nice i7 laptop that isn't expensive and will run ubuntu very well? [16:41] danke :) [16:41] osse: I just do a 'mount' and note, that on my computer, /dev/sda3 is my /home partition. From there, It is a manual partitioning option (and choose the right filesystem, and not to format) that's all. [16:41] I bought this asus u46e yesterday from best buy but it doesn't even boot the USB stick I prepared [16:41] sary: I will investigate. Thanks for the pointer. [16:41] can someone help me i am getting this message [16:41] have a great