[00:00] <Sir_Leto> *having
[00:00] <meganerd> guest0012983: why not just run as a regular user and use sudo for things you need root for?
[00:00] <majnoon> this way thinking once get setup way want then can do new wubi that way
[00:00] <hellosputnik> Hello guys.
[00:00] <wylde> guest0012983:  did you try 'su user1 firefox' or somesuch?
[00:00] <Moon_Doggy> DarwinSurvivor, i get this error  http://pastebin.com/27ZQHeRQ
[00:01] <hellosputnik> I'm currently using Ubuntu 11.10 and I can't move my windows to the right side of the screen to make them resize.
[00:01] <godmachine81> majnoon:: im not familiar with wubi. like i said, im not an ubuntu person. just here to ask a question about a 12.04 mirror for precise daily. installing on my dad's desktop.
[00:01] <Steevca> Is it just me or the gnome-look.org is not working?
[00:01] <hellosputnik> I'm not sure what that feature is called :/
[00:01] <godmachine81> hellosputnik:: called snapping
[00:01] <majnoon> well is ponter in correct direction any way
[00:01] <hellosputnik> godmachine81, how do I enable snap?
[00:02] <Steevca> Compiz i think.
[00:02] <wylde> majnoon: you'd really be better off running ubuntu from virtualbox than using wubi. JUst sayin'
[00:02] <godmachine81> hellosputnik:: if i knew i'd tell you, but i don't. sorry
[00:02] <godmachine81> !wubi
[00:02] <majnoon> no can use tvcard in virtual machine :(
[00:02] <persona24> I am having diffuclties installing Ubuntu on my friends lap top
[00:02] <godmachine81> yuck
[00:02] <guest0012983> wylde, i will try that first, and if no go then DarwinSurvivor, i will make a pastebin of all that stuff, already have it in a text file now
[00:02] <guest0012983> thanks guys
[00:03] <Steevca> People,seriously.Can anyone open http://www.gnome-look.org ? :D
[00:03] <Steevca> Is it just me?
[00:04] <godmachine81> not working Steevca
[00:04] <DarwinSurvivor> Steevca: http://www.downforeveryoneorjustme.com/www.gnome-look.org
[00:04] <Steevca> >.<
[00:04] <Steevca> DarwinSurvivor: Oh,yeah.I tottaly forgot about that site.
[00:04] <godmachine81> downforeveryoneorjustme is a good site. but i can't ever remember the exact URL to it
[00:04] <godmachine81> its too long
[00:04] <majnoon> godmachine81, it work okies but NO recomend updating from within it :)
[00:04] <godmachine81> i always want to try downforeveryoneorisitjustme
[00:04] <Steevca> There are similar websites with a shorter url.
[00:05] <godmachine81> yea
[00:05] <majnoon> *upgrading
[00:05] <godmachine81> majnoon:: i don't recommend altering linux systems from inside windows. hell i dont recommend doing anything from within windows
[00:05] <DarwinSurvivor> Moon_Doggy: Hmm, I'm out of ideas then. I highly recommend trying the #xorg channel, those guys could probably write the config from memory
[00:05] <uBUxUBu> i have installed wubi a few times
[00:05] <Steevca> http://news.softpedia.com/news/Ubuntu-11-10-Desktop-Customization-Guide-242549.shtml I ma trying to get my desktop to look like this,but i can't download the themes because of gnome-look.Does anyobady know a site where i can find Zukitwo and Zukini GTK3 Themes ?
[00:05] <majnoon> no it uses a file as a virt hd
[00:06] <majnoon> it a FULL ubuntu install
[00:06] <DarwinSurvivor> Steevca: did you try googling the theme name?
[00:06] <willdabeast> I have a question that may not be ubuntu related, but maybe hardware. I'm having an issue where my computer will restart whenever I am trying to load a game or do heavy amounts of multitasking.
[00:06] <godmachine81> majnoon:: is there some reason you can't just do a regular install?
[00:06] <majnoon> mom's machine :(
[00:06] <godmachine81> willdabeast:: you checked your cpu temp?
[00:06] <Steevca> DarwinSurvivor: Lol.I am getting so tired now,i am forgeting the basic stuff. xD Thanks,i think. xD
[00:07] <godmachine81> willdabeast:: you probably have a malfunctioning cooling system or the heatsink isn't seated properly.. or possibly bad memory
[00:07] <willdabeast> godmachine81 I have not, any way to easily?
[00:07] <wylde> willdabeast: dusted inside the case lately? :)
[00:07] <ActionParsnip> willdabeast: test your RAM using memtest from Grub
[00:07] <godmachine81> willdabeast:: yes sensors
[00:07] <Steevca> Found them on deviatart. xDD
[00:07] <Bennlucky7> wohoo
[00:07] <escott> willdabeast, is it overheating?
[00:07] <DarwinSurvivor> willdabeast: reboot and run memtest. CPU/GPU intensive apps also use a lot of memory and tend to trigger issues if a ram stick is ba
[00:07] <DarwinSurvivor> willdabeast: reboot and run memtest. CPU/GPU intensive apps also use a lot of memory and tend to trigger issues if a ram stick is bad
[00:07] <godmachine81> escott:: ^^
[00:08] <JCDenton> Is there a reason you're instructing people to destroy their systems?
[00:08] <JCDenton> http://pastebin.com/J4nB7DBt
[00:08] <JCDenton> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Skype
[00:08] <JCDenton> I'm trying to help someone with installing Skype, and the instructions you're giving users will end up causing a shit storm.
[00:08] <JCDenton> You should sincerely fix that
[00:08] <JCDenton> Just so you're aware.
[00:08] <willdabeast> darwinsurvivor memtest didnt have any errors, I have 2 ram sticks that I have swapped and used one or the other. My one issue is that under properties, it lists 4gb of memory as 3.25 gb
[00:08] <ActionParsnip> JCDenton: whom are you addressnig exactly?
[00:09] <godmachine81> JCDenton:: is the instructions on an official ubuntu page? or is it some 3rd party site?
[00:09] <ActionParsnip> JCDenton: thats how skype runs in 64bit
[00:09] <JCDenton> ActionParsnip, Whoever actually cares. This is why I don't use Ubuntu
[00:09] <ActionParsnip> JCDenton: skype is proprietary, so you need to moan at skype.
[00:09] <JCDenton> godmachine81, Did you read what I said?
[00:09] <DarwinSurvivor> wildc4rd: some memory may have been allocated to the video card by your bios
[00:09] <JCDenton> help.ubuntu.com is ubuntu.com last time I checked
[00:09] <ActionParsnip> JCDenton: if skype made a genuine 64bit client, you'd be ok
[00:09] <escott> willdabeast, if you are running 32bit you see 4GB-video card
[00:09] <godmachine81> i read as much as i could without getting behind on the chat.
[00:09] <ActionParsnip> JCDenton: nothing to do with Ubuntu, so you are moaning in completely the wrong place
[00:10] <willdabeast> escott so ur saying, I should be seeing it for 32 bit?
[00:10] <JCDenton> The user is suing 32bit
[00:10] <JCDenton> not 64bit
[00:10] <godmachine81> skype isn't hard to install or configure. doesn't really need a guide to install it
[00:10] <DarwinSurvivor> JCDenton: skype is trying to replace a FUNDAMENTAL piece of ubuntu with their PPA. Please bring up the issue with them as their package is *defective*
[00:10] <ActionParsnip> JCDenton: yes, but the OS is multiarch under 64bit so you can run 32bit apps..
[00:10] <escott> willdabeast, no that "-" is a minus. sorry not being clear. you see less than 4gb
[00:10] <ActionParsnip> JCDenton: just like you can in windows...
[00:10] <godmachine81> just install the 32bit compatibility libraries, and install skype. and done
[00:10] <Steevca> Is there a website i can check and see how each resolution would look like on my dekstop?
[00:11] <rohan> Steevca: www.whatismyscreenresolution.com
[00:11] <majnoon> having fun here ,2 keyboards,2 mouses,3 monitors :)
[00:11] <godmachine81> JCDenton:: if user is using 32bit then all they need to do is install the native libs + skype
[00:11] <willdabeast> escott o I gotcha, sry. Ok so I have a feeling that it may be cpu temp, it says 57 celcius. Which isn't too crazy
[00:11] <ActionParsnip> JCDenton: I suggest you install 32bit Ubuntu with PAE kernel if it bother you so much, sounds like its just for web accessing and such which doesn't benefit much from 64bitness
[00:11] <godmachine81> willdabeast:: 57 at idle or load
[00:12] <APoulos> alright peeps, need help again
[00:12] <willdabeast> godmachine at load
[00:12] <willdabeast> godmachine i mean idle sry
[00:12] <APoulos> I need help with rsync one more time
[00:12] <willdabeast> godmachine81 sry i mean idle
[00:12] <godmachine81> check temp under load
[00:12] <DarwinSurvivor> APoulos: fire away
[00:12] <wylde> willdabeast: 57 at idle is awfully high.
[00:12] <lcc> what time will ubuntu 12.04 be released?
[00:12] <ActionParsnip> APoulos: grsync is handy for rsync stuff
[00:12] <XxxTilllYxxX> #moparscape
[00:12] <ActionParsnip> lcc: ask in #ubuntu+1 for Precise stuffs
[00:12] <godmachine81> wylde:: not too high on some laptops
[00:13] <zykotick9> lcc: the time is not known, sometime tomorrow 26th in North America
[00:13] <APoulos> DarwinSurvivor, here's the command: rsync --progress -rEog --exclude-from='excludes.txt /home/alex/ /media/backup/12.04-Precise-backup_4.23.2012/
[00:13] <willdabeast> godmachine81 and wylde, you think the only way to fix it is to replace cpu or reapply the glue?
[00:13] <wylde> godmachine81: true, didn't cacth if he was on a lappy or desktop.
[00:13] <godmachine81> willdabeast:: its not glue
[00:13] <hellosputnik> :(
[00:13] <wylde> willdabeast: thermal paste
[00:13] <Moon_Doggy> ty anyways DarwinSurvivor
[00:13] <godmachine81> willdabeast:: you need some good thermal compound (not glue)  make sure it is seated properly, and don't use too much of the compound
[00:13] <escott> willdabeast, 57 at idle is high. I only get that when flash starts trying to compute the last digit of pi using all 4 cores
[00:13] <DarwinSurvivor> Moon_Doggy: no problem
[00:13] <hellosputnik> The lack of the snap feature is making me so sad :(
[00:14] <godmachine81> willdabeast:: it only takes about the size of a BB, and don't spread it out. it will spread by its self when the temp heats up
[00:14] <DarwinSurvivor> APoulos: and what do you need help with?
[00:14] <willdabeast> godmachine81 and wylde sry yea i meant that lol multitasking. Any place to get it cheap and should I just google how to reapply it?
[00:14] <lcc> ok
[00:14] <Steevca> One more thing.How can i move the unity shell,the dock on the left side to the bottom?
[00:14] <wylde> willdabeast: the system I'm on now has been under 100% load for 3 hours or so, I'm running at 54 degrees.
[00:14] <celso_> man.... lots of people here......
[00:14] <godmachine81> willdabeast:: just the size of a BB in the center. place heatsink on the cpu snuggly holding pressure down on it for aprox 30 seconds
[00:14] <celso_> hi people!
[00:14] <APoulos> DarwinSurvivor, everytime I try and use gsync to copy over files to that drive, even wtihout the "=excludes.txt" and use "--exclude filenamehere" I get an error when copying over files
[00:14] <taschrant> Howdy-do!  I'm new with Ubuntu and I installed Compiz Settings Manger.
[00:15] <DarwinSurvivor> Steevca: not possible yet, possibly in precise but not positive
[00:15] <willdabeast> godmachine81 alright sweet thanks so much. So no replacement cpu thats the good news hopefully c:
[00:15] <godmachine81> willdabeast:: then tighten the heatsink down.  run the cpu at full load for 20 - 30 minutes so that the compound will spread out properly
[00:15] <taschrant> It stopped working, but I tried running the command compiz --replace.
[00:15] <ActionParsnip> Steevca: there is an unofficial PPA, it is known to cause issues
[00:15] <godmachine81> willdabeast:: if cpu was broke it wouldn't work half the time
[00:15] <APoulos> DarwinSurvivor, this is what it gives me: "Downloads/Windows.7.Ultimate.32-64Bit.(2011-02-09).iso
[00:15] <APoulos> 3809312768 83% 21.03MB/s 0:00:35
[00:15] <APoulos> rsync: writefd_unbuffered failed to write 4 bytes to socket [sender]: Broken pipe (32)
[00:15] <APoulos> rsync: connection unexpectedly closed (70735 bytes received so far) [sender]
[00:15] <APoulos> rsync error: error in rsync protocol data stream (code 12) at io.c(605) [sender=3.0.9]"
[00:15] <taschrant> That worked temporarily, but it still doesn't keep my compiz going permanently.
[00:15] <Steevca> :(
[00:15] <wylde> willdabeast: godmachine81 <<---- what he's saying. Although, if it's a desktop, open the case and see if fans/heatsinks are clogged with dust, and if your fans are working.
[00:15] <godmachine81> willdabeast:: if cpu was broke it would not work at all..
[00:15] <taschrant> Is there anything I can do?
[00:15] <DarwinSurvivor> APoulos: please run the command directly in a terminal, then pastebin the output
[00:16] <DarwinSurvivor> !pastebin | APoulos
[00:16] <willdabeast> wylde and godmachine ty so much, wish i could +karma you guys or thank u on irc ;)
[00:16] <godmachine81> willdabeast:: yes removing dust may help.  but also making sure that you have the appropriate fancontrol settings in linux will help too
[00:16] <celso_> does sommeone knows if the final version of ubuntu 12.04 is already out?
[00:16] <willdabeast> godmachine81 ah gotcha
[00:17] <willdabeast> godmachine81 I had the fan control jacked up just to help it
[00:17] <DarwinSurvivor> !outyet | celso_
[00:17] <godmachine81> first things i'd check would be the fan speed sensor if your motherboard supports it. and make sure that pwmconfig/fancontrol are controlling the fan properly
[00:17] <wylde> willdabeast: glad to help when I can :) Imma shup now though before we get slapped with an !ot :P
[00:17] <yooozy> hi guys
[00:17] <celso_> thank you ubottu!!!!
[00:17] <godmachine81> willdabeast:: yes we need to try not to go offtopic too much. you are welcome to talk to me in another channel im in that isn't so strict about irc guidelines
[00:18] <yooozy> ubuntu 12.04 is due tomorrow?
[00:18] <wylde> yooozy: yes
[00:18] <DarwinSurvivor> !outyet | yooozy
[00:18] <celso_> i am asking because i already saw in the calendar that is already out!
[00:18] <yooozy> great! congrats to all you all!!
[00:18] <willdabeast> godmachine81 ill just pm you thanks ;)
[00:19] <flanagan> /join #ubuntu-relaese-party
[00:19] <yooozy> ubottu, ok going there
[00:19] <celso_> ahaha
[00:19] <celso_> didnt know XD
[00:19] <yooozy> ubottu, really?! what ever..
[00:20] <intrader> !deja |intrader
[00:20] <flanagan> /me test
[00:21] <taschrant> Hello everybody!  I'm new with Ubuntu.  I installed Compizconfig, but the settings are not sticking.  The only way it works is if I run the command compiz --replace.  However, once I log off or restart, Compiz still will not work.
[00:21] <shaneo> hey guys when running a service like owncloud via ubuntu do the owncloud users need to have their own directory in the pc
[00:23] <Alives> what is the equivalent of gnome-panel in gnome3?
[00:23] <shaneo> taschrant, what version of ubuntu
[00:24] <DarwinSurvivor> taschrant: have you read https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompositeManager ?
[00:24] <taschrant> Ubuntu 11.04 (I think).
[00:24] <shaneo> taschrant, and what exactly are you trying to do with compiz
[00:25] <Alives> an its unity
[00:25] <Alives> thanks
[00:25] <taschrant> I want to use the scale effect for managing my windows and customize the positions on the screen to show the desktop.
[00:26] <sudipta> when will 12.04 come out?It's 26th already
[00:26] <shaneo> sudipta, you can install it now
[00:26] <shaneo> sudipta, Ive been using it for weeks its wondeful
[00:27] <shaneo> taschrant, hmm thats a little advanced for me honestly i stay away from compiz it is great for effects and what not but hard to configure properly sometime
[00:27] <sudipta> shaneo:but the site shows a link to beta 2.Want to grab the final release of the LTS.BTW, I'm in India,so any chance of time delay???
[00:27] <taschrant> Ah.
[00:28] <celso_> sudipta, go check #ubuntu-release-party
[00:28] <taschrant> Is there a way I can have an expose-effect (like the Macs) in Ubuntu without Compiz then?
[00:28] <shaneo> sudipta, Beta2 is pretty stable and worth installing
[00:28] <shaneo> therefore when final comes out you'll just need a few updates
[00:29] <shaneo> sudipta, also website in US says final beta
[00:31] <smint^^> anyone good with BNC here?
[00:31] <smint^^> need some help setting up mine
[00:31] <guest0012983> DarwinSurvivor, http://pastebin.com/ar0C3XXz
[00:32] <guest0012983> thanks for trying to help
[00:32] <DarwinSurvivor> smint^^: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/BNC_connector ?
[00:32] <guest0012983> this is turning out to be a real pain
[00:32] <celso_> I just want to leave here a huge thank you to all the developers that worked hard to make such a good OS that ubuntu is! THANK YOU ALL !  :D
[00:32] <smint^^> DarwinSurvivor no, I mean a IRC Bouncer
[00:32] <guest0012983> but i appreiate your help
[00:32] <DarwinSurvivor> smint^^: oh
[00:32] <smint^^> Anyone know how to set up a IRC bouncer?
[00:33] <gizmo> I'm a newbie I'm using ubuntu via wubi from a windows pc, do I need an A/V
[00:33] <smint^^> yeah darwin, thats my problem
[00:34] <smint^^> anyone good with IRC BNC here?
[00:35] <physically_fit> gizmo, A/V?
[00:35] <smint^^> hes talking about antivirus
[00:35] <physically_fit> oh
[00:36] <APoulos> alright,
[00:36] <APoulos> here's what I need to know
[00:36] <gizmo> physically_fit: Anti Virus
[00:36] <taschrant> What should I do if my window-snapping isn't working?
[00:36] <casanova> slap it
[00:36] <APoulos> how do I exclude folders beginning in "."
[00:36] <APoulos> ?
[00:36] <DarwinSurvivor> gizmo: the windows host should have A/V to protect itself and anything you download with linux should be scanned if you plan to open it in windows later
[00:36] <APoulos> from rsync?
[00:36] <awisepilot> I need assistance with a Fresh Install of 11.10.  After the install is complete and booting for the first time I get a bunch of udevd[96]: timeout: killing /sbin/modprobe -bv pci.  Then it freezes when it get to a bnx2 error.
[00:37] <danopia> hi
[00:37] <gizmo> thanks Darwin
[00:37] <danopia> approx. when is 12.04 supposed to be released?
[00:37] <APoulos> DarwinSurvivor, how do I exclude any folders and files that begin with "." from the backup?
[00:38] <DarwinSurvivor> guest0012983: looks like root is protecting it's X session (good thing). I recommend not running a GUI as root anyways. *Why* are you logging in as root in the first place?
[00:38] <DarwinSurvivor> APoulos: you mean exclude hiden files/folders?
[00:38] <APoulos> yes sir
[00:38] <DarwinSurvivor> APoulos: http://wiki.ljackson.us/Rsync#Hidden_Files
[00:38] <APoulos> DarwinSurvivor, is there anyway to backup my .deb packages installed as well?
[00:39] <DarwinSurvivor> APoulos: a list of installed packages, or the deb files themselves?
[00:39] <apwbdjp> APoulos, aptoncd is your man
[00:39] <APoulos> DarwinSurvivor, yes and perhaps the .deb files themselves too
[00:39] <awisepilot> I need assistance with a Fresh Install of 11.10.  After the install is complete and booting for the first time I get a bunch of udevd[96]: timeout: killing /sbin/modprobe -bv pci.  Then it freezes when it get to a bnx2 error.
[00:40] <DarwinSurvivor> APoulos: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=261366 for the list
[00:40] <apwbdjp> APoulos, http://aptoncd.sourceforge.net/
[00:40] <APoulos> apwbdjp, I already used aptoncd
[00:40] <guest0012983> DarwinSurvivor, when i use backtrack i need to be logged in as root
[00:41] <guest0012983> i dont do much web browsing from backtrack, its not a good idea anyways
[00:41] <DarwinSurvivor> APoulos: all .deb files *should* be in /var/cache/apt/
[00:41] <guest0012983> but sometimes i like to watch video tutorials and stuff
[00:41] <DarwinSurvivor> guest0012983: when you use the backtrack software, or the distribution?
[00:41] <APoulos> apwbdjp, AptonCD doesnt copy any .config or .gconfid files does it?
[00:41] <guest0012983> the distrobution
[00:42] <intrader> Anyone, I have a /home backup done via deja on 10.10. Another laptop has been prepared with 11.10. Attempt to do a full restore using deja fails on account of deja asking for Encryption password. I did not write the backup with encryption, so I don't understand why it wants a password. How do I restore?
[00:42] <apwbdjp> APoulos, no, it only backs up the .deb files
[00:42] <DarwinSurvivor> guest0012983: backtrack is not an official ubuntu derivative, please contact the backtrack developers directly for assistance with their distrobution
[00:42] <guest0012983> i am trying all of this from my ubuntu partition so that i can just log out and back in again
[00:43] <APoulos> Also, last question, Boot-repair hung a bit and never fixed my grub menu, is there a way I can do the same job and fix my grub menu?
[00:43] <DarwinSurvivor> unfortunately every derivative distro likes to tweak things, so without knowing what they have changed, we can't help you much
[00:43] <guest0012983> i understand
[00:44] <awisepilot> I need assistance with a Fresh Install of 11.10.  After the install is complete and booting for the first time I get a bunch of udevd[96]: timeout: killing /sbin/modprobe -bv pci.  Then it freezes when it get to a bnx2 error.
[00:44] <DarwinSurvivor> guest0012983: if backtrack requires you to be logged in as root (something ubuntu does NOT do), that is an issue you need to bring up with *them*
[00:44] <guest0012983> although it is basically just ubuntu with different PPAs...   could we pretend that i am using backbox?  since the problem would be the exact same in backbox and backbox is ubuntu supported
[00:44] <jeral> Can someone help me get my sound working again. It was working and my son used headphones on my laptop and then I could barely hear the sound. I reloaded 11.10 and not I can't get sound at al
[00:44] <jeral> *all
[00:45] <DarwinSurvivor> the consensus on ubuntu is that you should never be logged in as root unless you are doing something VERY exceptional (such as HDD recovery)
[00:45] <guest0012983> if not its cool, i do appreciate all of your help thus far
[00:45] <jeral> I checked alsamixer and the second Master was muted so I unmuted it
[00:46] <DarwinSurvivor> guest0012983: I don't think backbox IS a Canonical endorsed distro at all
[00:46] <jeral> Can someone help me out
[00:46] <guest0012983> okays...  thanks for all the help anyways
[00:46] <guest0012983> at least i ruled some stuff out
[00:47] <DarwinSurvivor> jeral: the headphones are unplugged now right? (just verifying the obvious)
[00:47] <awisepilot> I wish some one would help me
[00:47] <guest0012983> bye
[00:47] <guest0012983> L)
[00:47] <guest0012983> :)
[00:47] <DarwinSurvivor> awisepilot: can you pastebin all the output?
[00:47] <awisepilot> sure :)
[00:48] <APoulos> How would I list a set of directories to exclude from btw - like --exclude=exclude.txt - where would I put that txt file?
[00:49] <darbe> hi
[00:49] <darbe> i try to install libstdc++6
[00:49] <darbe> but it is inactive.
[00:49] <darbe> http://s17.postimage.org/kok71xpvj/libstdc_6.png
[00:50] <darbe> how can I install that one?
[00:50] <christhisisgool> !info libstd
[00:50] <hellosputnik> How do I edit my workspaces in Ubuntu 11.10?
[00:51] <hellosputnik> I want more than 4 and I want them to be linear.
[00:51] <hellosputnik> I dislike having to use the up and down arrow keys to switch between my workspaces :(
[00:51] <jeral> How do you make all the changes you did in Alsamixer stay
[00:51] <jeral> I keep having the second Master Channel go back to Mute
[00:53] <jeral> Hello can someone help me out
[00:53] <DarwinSurvivor> apwbdjp: you can put the text file anywheres, just replace "exclude.txt" in the command with the location of the actual file
[00:54] <ActionParsnip> hellosputnik: you can do it in CCSM
[00:54] <kip> I have been trying all of the methods of installing Sun Java 6 JRE from https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Java and none of them work.  Who do I tell the documentation is not correct?
[00:54] <apwbdjp> DarwinSurvivor, not me, I believe ^^ It's alright, just make sure the guy got it
[00:55] <darbe> it should be active , right? http://s17.postimage.org/kok71xpvj/libstdc_6.png
[00:55] <DarwinSurvivor> apwbdjp: sorry, looks like he left and autocomplete switched to your name
[00:55] <Guest6774> hello
[00:55] <hellosputnik> !CCSM
[00:56] <hellosputnik> Thanks ActionParsnip.
[00:56] <DarwinSurvivor> kip: could you please be more specific than "does not work"?
[00:57] <ryoohki> any idea when archive.getdeb.net will be back?
[00:57] <DarwinSurvivor> kip: are you getting errors, does java not execute, does it crash, etc?
[00:57] <builder> heya
[00:57] <kip> Each way has a different error, and will not complete.
[00:57] <DarwinSurvivor> ryoohki: please try #getdeb
[00:58] <ryoohki> DarwinSurvivor: thanks!
[00:58] <DarwinSurvivor> kip: please pastebin your attempts with the output you got
[00:58] <DarwinSurvivor> !pastebin | kip
[00:59] <kip> O.K. I will try to figure out the paste.ubuntu.com BRB
[01:00] <myr> Anyone know when 10.04 will no longer be updated?
[01:00] <majnoon> ok anyone know of a good FREE windows xserver to connect to linux box ??
[01:00] <DarwinSurvivor> myr: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ubuntu_%28operating_system%29#Releases
[01:01] <myr> DarwinSurvivor, thanks
[01:01] <HoNgOuRu> hi, is there any way to find a text file that I modified 15 days ago ?
[01:01] <DarwinSurvivor> HoNgOuRu: do you know the name of it?
[01:01] <kacOngs_> precise im coming
[01:01] <HoNgOuRu> DarwinSurvivor, ofcourse not
[01:02] <DarwinSurvivor> HoNgOuRu: do you know what folder it was in, what permissions it had, the *precise* date, etc?
[01:02] <HoNgOuRu> yes, my home folder
[01:02] <DarwinSurvivor> HoNgOuRu: knowing the size and/or content (even a few words) will help
[01:02] <HoNgOuRu> yes, precise date...
[01:02] <HoNgOuRu> no
[01:02] <HoNgOuRu> no words
[01:02] <DarwinSurvivor> HoNgOuRu: do you remember what war IN the file (even a few words)?
[01:03] <HoNgOuRu> DarwinSurvivor, no
[01:03] <HoNgOuRu> just 3 consecutive numbers
[01:03] <HoNgOuRu> but Im not sure
[01:03] <escott> majnoon, xming?
[01:03] <DarwinSurvivor> HoNgOuRu: stupid question: how can a file you know nothing about be important enough to save...?
[01:03] <HoNgOuRu> DarwinSurvivor, a telephone number
[01:03] <DarwinSurvivor> HoNgOuRu: do you know what the numbers were?
[01:03] <DarwinSurvivor> ah
[01:03] <HoNgOuRu> I guess
[01:03] <HoNgOuRu> is there any "find " something?
[01:04] <HoNgOuRu> can I look for a particular period of time?
[01:04] <HoNgOuRu> I know the date and time
[01:04] <Lazik> HoNgOuRu: http://www.cyberciti.biz/faq/linux-unix-osxfind-files-by-date/
[01:04] <escott> HoNgOuRu, find can do that
[01:04] <DarwinSurvivor> HoNgOuRu: yes, the "find" command will search for files by name, size, permissions & date. "grep" will search INSIDE the files for a pattern or a piece of text
[01:04] <Diranged> i just switched our syslog serer from syslog-ng to rsyslog (4.2.0, on ubuntu 10.04), and rsyslog is using up 100% of the cpu..
[01:05] <Diranged> its working, but its stuck idlign @ 100% as it brings in a few logs from our remote servers
[01:05] <ActionParsnip> majnoon: xming
[01:05] <awisepilot> DarwinSurvivor:  Here are my two post http://imagebin.org/209756 and http://imagebin.org/209757
[01:05] <ActionParsnip> kip: did you get my PM?
[01:05] <DarwinSurvivor> HoNgOuRu: do you remember ANYTHING about the filename (ex: ending in .txt or something)?
[01:06] <kip> I am back. The paste is http://paste.ubuntu.com/946617/
[01:07] <ActionParsnip> kip: did you get my link?
[01:07] <kip> Just found it.
[01:07] <ActionParsnip> kip: bit easier ;)
[01:08] <DarwinSurvivor> kip: what I meant by "output" was every time you entered something in the terminal "ex: sudo apt-key adv --keyserver keys.gnupg.net --recv-keys 5CB26B26" we need the output of that command
[01:08] <zymurgy> I'm in Ubuntu 12.04, in KDE. An inch or two of the whole desktop disappears under the screen's left edge. What can I do about this?
[01:08] <DarwinSurvivor> kip: what you need to do is start from scratch, run ALL your commands in the same terminal, then pastebin the ENTIRE contents of that terminal
[01:09] <DarwinSurvivor> HoNgOuRu: give a sec, writting a script for you
[01:09] <christhisisgool> zmurgy: one. this is not kubuntu. 2. this is not the 12.04 channel
[01:09] <awisepilot> DarwinSurvivor: did you see my imagepast?
[01:09] <kip> The command that failed was listed. I will do again and capture everything. O.K. Thanks. May be awhile. It is on another computer.
[01:10] <DarwinSurvivor> awisepilot: sorry, I know very little about udev
[01:11] <zymurgy> I'm in Ubuntu 12.04, in KDE. An inch or two of the whole desktop disappears under the screen's left edge. What can I do about this?
[01:11] <DarwinSurvivor> kip: sometimes things that don't error out still have messages that can help find out what caused an error later
[01:12] <ActionParsnip> zymurgy: ask in #ubuntu+1 please
[01:12] <awisepilot> First time trying Ubuntu, cann't beleive it's has a bug on a sever install.
[01:12] <HoNgOuRu> DarwinSurvivor, how is that script going ?
[01:12] <ActionParsnip> awisepilot: which release?
[01:12] <awisepilot> 11.10
[01:12] <awisepilot> I'm about to blow it away and load SLES 11
[01:12] <ActionParsnip> awisepilot: Precise is out in a matter of HOURS. Why not instal Precise?? It's also LTS so has a lot more life than Oneiric
[01:13] <awisepilot> Were can I find Precise
[01:13] <awisepilot> and what is it
[01:13] <myr> ActionParsnip, because new versions of ubuntu are generally quite unstable?
[01:13] <awisepilot> I am new to Ubuntu
[01:13] <ActionParsnip> awisepilot: its the 12.04 release of ubuntu
[01:13] <ActionParsnip> myr: LTS releases are intentionally made as solid as possible from day 0
[01:13] <DarwinSurvivor> HoNgOuRu: ok, unfortunately, your home folder contains *LOTS* of small files, so any information will help (was it in Documents/, what was the format of any line of the file ex: ###-###-#### or ### ### ####)
[01:14] <ActionParsnip> awisepilot: Oneiric has 18 months of support, Precise has 5 years
[01:14] <awisepilot> nice
[01:14] <awisepilot> where can I find it
[01:14] <xangua> awisepilot: ubuntu.com
[01:14] <awisepilot> I got to get this server running
[01:14] <awisepilot> on something
[01:14] <DarwinSurvivor> HoNgOuRu: "find ~ -size -b50" and tell me how much gets printed
[01:15] <myr> ActionParsnip, I have been using ubuntu since Breezy, and I have not found LTS releases to be any more stable upon initial release
[01:15] <DarwinSurvivor> HoNgOuRu: you will probably get a LOT of stuff from .mozilla/ so add " | grep -v mozilla" after
[01:15] <myr> 10.04 is rock solid
[01:15] <Bennlucky7> zymurgy: maybe setting in monitor button
[01:16] <awisepilot> does 10.04 come with Python and Twisted
[01:16] <ActionParsnip> myr: i'd still go for it in a server install as a clean install personally. Precise has been fine here since Alpha2, been using Ubuntu since Gutsy, Linux in various flavours for much longer
[01:17] <awisepilot> ActionParsnip, lit in a couple of hours there is a new version
[01:17] <zymurgy> Don't think there IS a "monitor button". This exact same setup worked perfectly under debian.
[01:17] <user1> hi, ubuntu 12.04 lts released or not....
[01:17] <uBUxUBu> its actually april 26 in samoa right now
[01:17] <celso_> not
[01:17] <DarwinSurvivor> HoNgOuRu: http://www.learnosity.com/techblog/index.cfm/2010/5/10/Howto-find-files-newer-than-a-specific-date-using-command-line
[01:18] <uBUxUBu> the website still shows 11'10 as current
[01:18] <HoNgOuRu> DarwinSurvivor, that command should be writen -size 50b
[01:18] <DarwinSurvivor> HoNgOuRu: sorry, that was a reference for myself
[01:18] <DarwinSurvivor> HoNgOuRu: what was the date it was made?
[01:19] <GG111> Grr, this one is really getting, I thought I had the perfect install, untill -
[01:19] <ActionParsnip> uBUxUBu: yes, thats because its still the latest stable :)
[01:19] <HoNgOuRu> DarwinSurvivor, dont know if "made" or modified
[01:20] <kip> It looks like I have partial (uncomplete installs of Java6 JRE,and Java 7 JDK) and I can not remove them, so I am going to reinstall Lubuntu and start from scratch again. And log everything.
[01:20] <GG111> does anyone know, why does the new-mail envelope in unity flips to "no mail", right after the first email is cheked, even if there are tem more new emails left ?
[01:20] <HoNgOuRu> 2012-14-04
[01:20] <uBUxUBu> hmm so you mean they wont even shiw it current tomorrow?
[01:20] <awisepilot> Let me try 10.04 LTS there are issues with 11.10 I just found in the forums with a race condition during boot in the udev.
[01:20] <ActionParsnip> uBUxUBu: yes, when iots released, the site will be updated..
[01:20] <DarwinSurvivor> HoNgOuRu: you mean 2012-04-14?
[01:21] <uBUxUBu> but it is 2pm april 26 in samoa
[01:21] <HoNgOuRu> yes
[01:21] <HoNgOuRu> DarwinSurvivor, between 20:00 and 22:00
[01:21] <xangua> !isitout | uBUxUBu
[01:21] <uBUxUBu> guess they fell behind
[01:21] <DarwinSurvivor> HoNgOuRu: NOW we're getting specific!
[01:21] <bazhang> uBUxUBu, so? it'll be out when it's out. no need to repeat here
[01:22] <HoNgOuRu> don't give me hope...
[01:22] <ActionParsnip> uBUxUBu: are you running the beta release already?
[01:22] <HoNgOuRu> Ill buy it...
[01:22] <uBUxUBu> no
[01:22] <uBUxUBu> im using 11.10
[01:22] <ActionParsnip> uBUxUBu: if you install the beta or daily, you will upgrade seamlessly into the release
[01:22] <GG111> no input on the new-mail envelope ?
[01:22] <bazhang> uBUxUBu, lets stick to ubuntu support. #ubuntu-release-party for the countdown NOT here
[01:22] <HoNgOuRu> DarwinSurvivor, it was a text file, probably without the .txt extension
[01:23] <awisepilot> If I start fresh with 10.04 when 12 release I will be able to upgrade without going to 11.10 correct?
[01:23] <DarwinSurvivor> HoNgOuRu: http://paste.ubuntu.com/946630/
[01:23] <myr> awisepilot, yes
[01:23] <bazhang> awisepilot, 10.04 does not go to 11.10 directly
[01:23] <awisepilot> but it will go to 12 ???
[01:24] <DarwinSurvivor> HoNgOuRu: oops, sorry, just a sec
[01:24] <bazhang> awisepilot, it's 10.04 to 12.04 one step
[01:24] <myr> awisepilot, yes
[01:24] <awisepilot> cool
[01:24] <dj_segfault> awisepilot: I had this discussion here last week and found out you can go LTS release to LTS release
[01:24] <awisepilot> hitting the download button now!! for 10.04 lts
[01:24] <majnoon> wow can watch tv (kaffiene) through ssh x11 forward :)
[01:25] <uBUxUBu> so, installing the beta and installing the final lts are the same ActionParsnip ?
[01:25] <awisepilot> Thanks for the solid solution myr
[01:25] <SeedGame> Hello all
[01:26] <DarwinSurvivor> HoNgOuRu: sorry, fixed: http://paste.ubuntu.com/946633/
[01:26] <SeedGame> I have one problem need to ask
[01:26] <myr> awisepilot, no problem. Hope it goes well for you.
[01:26] <bazhang> !final | uBUxUBu yes
[01:26] <SeedGame> I
[01:27] <DarwinSurvivor> HoNgOuRu: depending on how many files are in your home directory, it may take a while to run
[01:28] <HoNgOuRu> yeah...its looking
[01:28] <trongnghia> good morning!
[01:28] <ActionParsnip> uBUxUBu: you will upgrade seamlessly
[01:29] <HoNgOuRu> DarwinSurvivor, I copied the whole home directory yesterday, would that be a problem ?
[01:29] <Bennlucky7> good evening !
[01:29] <uBUxUBu> hmmm, but i prefer clean install
[01:29] <uBUxUBu> since it is this close
[01:29] <awisepilot> I just went to the web site and its says 12.04 LTS is ready for download
[01:29] <uBUxUBu> omg
[01:30] <SeedGame> I have 8 user in ubuntu and each user are with disk quota and seprate files and each user have torrend clent,ftp,http explorer, rapid leech and many other stuff and I want to limit the bandwidth/user like each user can use 1tb bandwidth not more then that but i dont want to limit speeds but just bandwidth
[01:30] <uBUxUBu> its here
[01:30] <bazhang> awisepilot, its not
[01:30] <bazhang> uBUxUBu, stop that. it's not
[01:30] <jeral> Ok does anyone of a Sound fix for ubuntu
[01:30] <Diranged> i'm stuck on this rsyslog issue… it looks like rsyslog starts up, massively starts taking up memory and cpu, and eventually crashes..
[01:31] <jeral> I had the fix but I can't get it to work anymore
[01:31] <Diranged> ' 6537 syslog    20   0 4020m 3.4g  732 S 75.6 91.5   1:05.17 rsyslogd' …
[01:31] <DarwinSurvivor> HoNgOuRu: HoNgOuRu nope, it's searching by modification time. Unless you are searching inside the backup there should be no issue
[01:31] <awisepilot> Testing, testing Ubuntu 12.04 LTS is in final beta now.  Download it today is not what we are looking for?
[01:32] <HoNgOuRu> DarwinSurvivor, no, Im searching inside the home directory
[01:32] <HoNgOuRu> DarwinSurvivor, it has to work
[01:32] <uBUxUBu> awisepilot, i thought you meant it said it is out of beta
[01:32] <bazhang> awisepilot, beta is not final. you will know when it is released.
[01:32] <HoNgOuRu> -size 50b means smaller than 50B ?
[01:32] <awisepilot> No, sorry for the false alarm
[01:32] <uBUxUBu> it has said beta on there for awhile now
[01:32] <DarwinSurvivor> HoNgOuRu: if this doesn't work we can also try using grep to search for a pattern matching the numbers, but that will be SLOWWWWW
[01:32] <awisepilot> I thought that is what you wanted me to download
[01:32] <bazhang> uBUxUBu, it's not, stop speculating on it here
[01:32] <DarwinSurvivor> HoNgOuRu: yes
[01:33] <HoNgOuRu> all right.
[01:33] <HoNgOuRu> no luck!
[01:33] <HoNgOuRu> finished
[01:33] <DarwinSurvivor> HoNgOuRu: wait, was it three numbers that make a phone number, or 3 phone numbers?
[01:33] <HoNgOuRu> 3 numbers
[01:34] <DarwinSurvivor> HoNgOuRu: do you remember the exact format of the file (replace numbers with #'s)?
[01:34] <awisepilot> Dang another 27 minute download ...uggg
[01:34] <HoNgOuRu> mmm... not sure
[01:35] <myr> awisepilot, torrents are generally faster...
[01:35] <HoNgOuRu> ####3## could help ? between spaces
[01:36] <celso_> time to go sleep. i will download it tomorow. bb all
[01:37] <DarwinSurvivor> HoNgOuRu: what does "du -h --max-depth=0 ~" report?
[01:38] <HoNgOuRu> 38G
[01:39] <DarwinSurvivor> HoNgOuRu: ouch. Ok can you create a pastebin and list *everything* you know about the file in hit. Make 2 lists. 1) things you know 2) things you suspect
[01:40] <DarwinSurvivor> HoNgOuRu: even lits things you know are false (ex: filename contains no numbers, underscores or uppercase characters)
[01:40] <SeedGame> Anybody please help me
[01:40] <DarwinSurvivor> SeedGame: what was your question?
[01:40] <SeedGame> I have 8 user in ubuntu and each user are with disk quota and seprate files and each user have torrend clent,ftp,http explorer, rapid leech and many other stuff and I want to limit the bandwidth/user like each user can use 1tb bandwidth not more then that but i dont want to limit speeds but just bandwidth
[01:41] <HoNgOuRu> DarwinSurvivor, the command with the before and after is not finding anything, so I guess that it would not find it otherwise
[01:41] <kacOngs> damm, my conecsi is so bad
[01:41] <DarwinSurvivor> HoNgOuRu: yes, but we can make those more broad and try other things you know about the file
[01:42] <zymurgy> Ubuntu and other Debian-based distros are useless of Debian's indifferent hardware support. Byebye.
[01:42] <DarwinSurvivor> SeedGame: what do you want to happen when they run out? total cut off, limiting, close apps, etc?
[01:42] <SeedGame> Total cut off
[01:43] <DarwinSurvivor> SeedGame: are these local users or do they login remotely?
[01:43] <SeedGame> Local linux users
[01:44] <DarwinSurvivor> SeedGame: and how quickly do they need to be cut off? instantly, or would a check every night be enough?
[01:44] <SeedGame> Instantly
[01:45] <DarwinSurvivor> SeedGame: checking once every few minutes wouldn't work either?
[01:46] <HoNgOuRu> WOOOOOW !!!!!!!!! DARWIN !!!!
[01:46] <HoNgOuRu> awesome
[01:46] <HoNgOuRu> found !!!!
[01:46] <DarwinSurvivor> HoNgOuRu: what?
[01:46] <FloodBot1> HoNgOuRu: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[01:46] <DarwinSurvivor> HoNgOuRu: what did you do?
[01:46] <SeedGame> Darwin, it could work for me
[01:46] <DarwinSurvivor> lol floodbot
[01:46] <X-tonic> what time is 12.04 expected?
[01:46] <HoNgOuRu> took out the -size 50b
[01:46] <DarwinSurvivor> !outyet | X-tonic
[01:46] <bazhang> X-tonic, no set time
[01:47] <DarwinSurvivor> HoNgOuRu: ah, must have contained more than 3 numbers then
[01:47] <HoNgOuRu> and then searched the names of the list, it was less than 40 lines
[01:47] <HoNgOuRu> yes
[01:47] <DarwinSurvivor> HoNgOuRu: congratulations
[01:47] <HoNgOuRu> I remembered 3 out of 6
[01:47] <DarwinSurvivor> HoNgOuRu: ah, 6 would have put it just over 50b :P
[01:47] <HoNgOuRu> it is 8 bytes long
[01:48] <HoNgOuRu> DarwinSurvivor, I love linux!
[01:48] <DarwinSurvivor> HoNgOuRu: which would be 64b (8*8=64) !
[01:48] <HoNgOuRu> lets see
[01:49] <DarwinSurvivor> HoNgOuRu: adjust slightly for HDD sector sizes of course
[01:49] <HoNgOuRu> nope, not working even with 200b
[01:49] <HoNgOuRu> oh
[01:49] <tohuw> What is the mechanism a program uses to notify the unity bar to highlight its icon?
[01:49] <HoNgOuRu> that could be
[01:49] <X-tonic> bazhang: but i remember some previous release having set times, like 10.10 came on 10:10:10, and on came at 10AM PSD
[01:49] <DarwinSurvivor> SeedGame: there are some monitoring utilities listed on http://www.ubuntugeek.com/bandwidth-monitoring-tools-for-linux.html but I'm not sure if any will monitor per user
[01:49] <bazhang> !party | X-tonic
[01:50] <DarwinSurvivor> SeedGame: what is the use case here? There may be other ways of doing this
[01:50] <bazhang> X-tonic, just that ONE time.
[01:50] <Diranged> grr.. cant figure out wtf is wrong with rsyslog..
[01:50] <X-tonic> right..
[01:50] <HoNgOuRu> DarwinSurvivor, thank u a lot.
[01:50] <SeedGame> Huh?
[01:51] <DarwinSurvivor> HoNgOuRu: no problem
[01:51] <Ububegin> !PPA
[01:51] <HoNgOuRu> got to go... see you pal!
[01:51] <DarwinSurvivor> SeedGame: is this a family computer with a limited ISP connection, a server for friends, etc?
[01:51] <DarwinSurvivor> HoNgOuRu: bye
[01:51]  * DarwinSurvivor wonders if the phone number was for a date.......
[01:51] <SeedGame> A server for friends.
[01:52] <DarwinSurvivor> SeedGame: so they are *not* local users then!
[01:52] <SeedGame> Umm
[01:52] <SeedGame> Thanks
[01:52] <DarwinSurvivor> SeedGame: sorry, should have been more specific. By local user I meant "user that has physical access and uses the keyboard"
[01:52] <zykotick9> X-tonic: 10.10 wasn't released at 10:10am/pm either, it was out before that.  I organized a release party at 10:10AM on 10.10.10 - and it was already out ;)  which is a lot earlier then normal (i think they must have had it ready the night before for that release)
[01:53] <SeedGame> I got it Drawin
[01:54] <SeedGame> Drawin, any way exist to do that?
[01:55] <DarwinSurvivor> SeedGame: from what I can see the best/easiest way would be to have each user use a virtual network interface, then use vnstat to monitor how much has gone through each interface
[01:55] <SeedGame> Ah okay
[01:56] <VTperser> halloooo
[01:56] <majnoon> !ot
[01:57] <DarwinSurvivor> SeedGame: #networking can probably help you more than we can, that's their specialty
[01:57] <DarwinSurvivor> SeedGame: you may need to set up a proxy or something, but you could probably run that off the same machine
[01:58] <DarwinSurvivor> hello VTperser welcome to #ubuntu, if you have a question please post it now
[01:59] <VTperser> sup
[01:59] <VTperser> majnoon: chetori
[01:59] <majnoon> chetori ??
[02:00] <VTperser> majnoon: khoobam
[02:00] <phame> hellooooooooo
[02:00] <bazhang> VTperser, ubuntu support question?
[02:00] <ikt> hi
[02:00] <violinappren> ikt: hello
[02:01] <phame> backtrack???
[02:01]  * ikt sits and waits for 12.04 to be released
[02:01] <jhansonxi> Since /etc/firefox/profile is gone, is there any way to define default bookmarks for new accounts other than manually editing /usr/lib/firefox-<some version number>/omni.ja ?
[02:01] <bazhang> !backtrack | phame
[02:02] <DarwinSurvivor> !party | ikt
[02:02] <violinappren> ikt: the beta runs pretty well for me
[02:02] <ikt> DarwinSurvivor, I notice you're not in the party room :P
[02:03] <ikt> violinappren, I've been running since alpha, really really stable, like it a lot
[02:04] <phame> we are legions
[02:04] <DarwinSurvivor> ikt: that's because I'm here to support people
[02:04] <phame> we are anonymous!
[02:04] <bazhang> phame, wrong channel
[02:04] <pangolin> we are not interested
[02:04] <DarwinSurvivor> ikt: I'm actually chatting on an arch laptop ssh'd to a freebsd box running irssi :P
[02:05] <violinappren> phame: we are ubuntu support channel :)
[02:05] <sanduz2> where is the ubuntu release party channel?
[02:05] <bazhang> !party | sanduz2
[02:05] <sanduz2> thanks
[02:06] <DarwinSurvivor> ikt: I have a fedora desktop on the other side of the room. but all the netbooks are on ubuntu
[02:08] <Logan_> !nick | Tasmania
[02:08] <Fyodorovna> So are the 12.04 torrents up all versions for capture and seeding?
[02:09] <bazhang> Fyodorovna, final? no
[02:09] <XDESIGN> when officially released ubuntu 12.04 ?
[02:09] <bazhang> XDESIGN, no set time
[02:09] <pangolin> when it is ready
[02:09] <Fyodorovna> bazhang, cool thanks I try to add to the seed at release.
[02:09] <violinappren> it's 2012... and there is still no proper support for ALPS trackpads in the kernel yet! woohoo!
[02:09] <XDESIGN> ok
[02:09] <XDESIGN> 10x
[02:10] <ericluwolf> Hey guys
[02:10] <violinappren> hello ericluwolf
[02:11] <juancarlospaco> hello, hello gentlemans and gentle womans
[02:11] <juancarlospaco> :P
[02:14] <nontechnical> hey guys - im trying to copy the functionality of textmate on ubuntu with gedit
[02:14] <nontechnical> i found this article http://blog.sudobits.com/2011/04/02/textmate-for-ubuntu-linux/
[02:15] <nontechnical> im stuck on the last bit getting the plugin into the correct /usr folder because i have permission restrictions - can anyone help me figure this out?
[02:15] <netzsooc> hey for some reason the speakers of my laptop are not working... if don't plug headphones Ihave no sound, what the reason could be?
[02:15] <violinappren> nontechnical: sudo?
[02:16] <violinappren> !sound | netzsooc
[02:16] <juancarlospaco> :)
[02:16] <DarwinSurvivor> netzsooc: can you post a screenshot of your audio mixer levels?
[02:17] <nontechnical> i understand <violinappren> in theory, can you guide me through it? please!
[02:17] <violinappren> nontechnical: did you extract the files of the plugin?
[02:18] <nontechnical> yes, they are on my desktop
[02:18] <zykotick9> nontechnical: (perhaps saying the following to this nic is silly) i have no idea what textmate is or what you are trying to duplicate.  but i'd like to suggest, in the long run, you might do well to learn emacs or vi(m).  not for today i understand.
[02:18] <nontechnical> i did this (when not in sudo) <violinappren> gksu gedit_classbrowser-0.2.1 ~/usr/share/gedit/plugins
[02:19] <DarwinSurvivor> nontechnical: um, I highly doubt ~/usr/share/gedit even exist, you probably want /usr/share/gedit/plugins (without the ~)
[02:19] <violinappren> nontechnical: should be: sudo cp -R  instead of gksu
[02:19] <nontechnical> thanks <zykotick9> I've read a little on it
[02:19] <juancarlospaco> :)
[02:20] <nontechnical> what does the -R do?
[02:20] <DarwinSurvivor> nontechnical: recursive
[02:20] <DarwinSurvivor> nontechnical: same as -r
[02:20] <nontechnical> ill look it up ;-)
[02:20] <violinappren> DarwinSurvivor: nontechnical: it's /usr/lib/gedit/plugins/
[02:20] <DarwinSurvivor> violinappren: that sounds like it
[02:21] <juancarlospaco> ./ignore juancarlospaco ^all
[02:21] <juancarlospaco> ups
[02:21] <violinappren> nontechnical: i second the vim/emacs suggestion
[02:21] <bazhang> juancarlospaco, please stop that
[02:21] <juancarlospaco> sorry
 i did this: sudo cp -R gedit_classbrowser-0.2.1 ~/usr/lib/gedit/plugins
[02:23] <violinappren> nontechnical: there should be no ~
[02:23] <violinappren> ~ means your home directory
[02:23] <juancarlospaco> Gimp 2.8 is pure Win
[02:23] <RiXtEr-Home_> O+o
 i got this back: cp: cannot stat `gedit_classbrowser-0.2.1': No such file or directory
[02:23] <RiXtEr-Home_> nontechnical, are you in ~/Desktop ?
[02:24] <violinappren> nontechnical: if you extracted it on your desktop (not the home directory) it will be under ~/Desktop
[02:24] <Mneumonic> Is there an ubuntu release party channel like last time?
[02:24] <bazhang> Mneumonic, yes
[02:24] <violinappren> nontechnical: so Desktop/gedit_...
[02:24] <bazhang> !party > Mneumonic
[02:24] <Logan_> Mneumonic: #ubuntu-release-party
[02:24] <bazhang> !ot | juancarlospaco
[02:24] <nontechnical> yeah i guess i was in home....!
[02:25] <Ububegin> Hi, how do i open a lib.a file.. I just want to see whats inside.. what app in ubuntu can do that
 if i get no error message does it mean it worked?
[02:26] <nontechnical> ill go check..
[02:26] <nontechnical> sorry.
[02:26] <violinappren> Ububegin: it's a static native code library  (as opposed to a dynamic one, .so)
[02:27] <violinappren> nontechnical: probably, yeah
[02:27] <ccsabathia> Can Ubuntu run on 512mb ram?
[02:28] <DarwinSurvivor> Ububegin: basically, it will resemble the inside of an executable file (in fact, multiple .a files are combined to create an executable).
[02:28] <violinappren> Ububegin: ar -t lib.a
[02:28] <Fyodorovna> ccsabathia, I would try lubuntu
[02:28] <DarwinSurvivor> ccsabathia: depends what you want to run on it
[02:28] <DarwinSurvivor> ccsabathia: I've seen firefox ALONE use that much...
[02:28] <ccsabathia> Just Firefox and OpenOffice
[02:28] <ccsabathia> It's got a dual 933 MHz p3
[02:29] <DarwinSurvivor> ccsabathia: no distro will run both firefox and openoffice on 512MB without going slow, those applications alone use that much :(
[02:29] <zykotick9> !requirements | ccsabathia they recommend 1GB
[02:29] <DarwinSurvivor> ccsabathia: I would recommend using lighter alternatives, though they will still run
[02:29] <user> sup all
[02:29] <ccsabathia> Ok I will try lubumtu then
[02:30] <Ububegin> violinappren: thanks.. how about a .so file
[02:31] <CyberWorld> join "ubuntu-release-party" to talk about the 12.04 release
[02:31] <violinappren> Ububegin: readelf
[02:31] <user> i have a newb question for anyone who knows their stuff... how can i upgrade to 12.04?
[02:32] <DarwinSurvivor> user: 1) wait for it to be released 2) use update manager
[02:32] <bazhang> user, from what version
[02:32] <user> 11.10
[02:32] <user> tried update manager but does not give me the option
[02:33] <bazhang> user, it's not released yet, thats why
[02:33] <ActionParsnip> user: when it is released it will be an option
[02:33] <DarwinSurvivor> !outyet | user
[02:34] <user> lol k i can wait a few hours thanks
[02:34] <ActionParsnip> easiest to think of it as out on 27th, that way all time zones are accomodated
[02:34] <roguetech> user if you click alt+f2
[02:35] <roguetech> and type update-manager -d
[02:35] <ActionParsnip> roguetech: click alt+f2?
[02:35] <ActionParsnip> roguetech: that will need sudo too
[02:35] <roguetech> it i will give u the option
[02:35] <SmileyChris> ActionParsnip: you don't use your mouse to type on your keyboard?
[02:35] <SmileyChris> i thought that's how you were supposed to do it
[02:35] <godmachine> does ubuntu not come with a screensaver installed anymore?
[02:35] <ActionParsnip> SmileyChris: maybe its what the cool kids do these days...who understands those kids
[02:35] <intrader> Anyone, I have a /home backup done via deja on 10.10. Another laptop has been prepared with 11.10. Attempt to do a full restore using deja fails on account of deja asking for Encryption password. I did not write the backup with encryption, so I don't understand why it wants a password. How do I restore?
[02:36] <ActionParsnip> godmachine: http://www.wmlcloud.com/linux/how-to-activate-screen-saver-in-ubuntu-11-10-oneiric-ocelot/
[02:36] <flanagan> use your user paw
[02:36] <roguetech> not click press alt+f2 :-)
[02:36] <godmachine> ActionParsnip, was a simple yes or no question :P
[02:36] <user> ty roguetech... i was missing the space before -d lol
[02:36] <DarwinSurvivor> godmachine: yes it does, i just don't think it has animations yet (see #gnome to ask about the screensaver). If you want animations, try xscreensaver
[02:36] <godmachine> ActionParsnip, was just wondering if it was installed or if it wasn't showing up in unity
[02:37] <schindler> wat time is the release tomorrow?
[02:37] <bazhang> schindler, no set time
[02:37] <DarwinSurvivor> !outyet | schindler
[02:37] <ActionParsnip> godmachine: not by default, but its easy to setup
[02:38] <godmachine> thanks ActionParsnip
[02:39] <phong_> hi guys, is there a way to tell ubuntu to  go to root of the hard drive when i do ssh in or sftp?
[02:39] <phong_> current it automatic go to my home directory
[02:39] <schindler> login as root
[02:39] <godmachine> what about notification icons. does xchat not fit in the panel tray in unity?  i notice the notifications work on the launcher, but i'd rather see the X icon up by the clock if at all possible
[02:39] <phong_> i want it to automatic to go to /
[02:39] <Guest__> phong_ set your home to / if that is really what you want.
[02:39] <phong_> how?
[02:39] <ActionParsnip> phong_: could make a new user and add:  cd /   to the bottom of ~/.bashrc
[02:39] <DarwinSurvivor> phong_: you can also add "cd /" to your .bashrc
[02:40] <DarwinSurvivor> phong_: that won't affect scp though
[02:40] <phong_> where is that file?
[02:40] <ActionParsnip> schindler: logging in as root is not only not recommended, it willl default to /root   (root's home)
[02:40] <Guest__> phong_ go with DarwinSurvivor's suggestion
[02:40] <SmileyChris> phong_: ~/.bashrc
[02:40] <Guest__> phong_ in ~
[02:40] <phong_> ok
[02:40] <phong_> thanks brb let me do that
[02:41] <skyistohigh> Hey
[02:41] <skyistohigh> Just checking if I manage to set this up..? Do you guys copy?
[02:41] <schindler> wats the diff between x and wayland?
[02:41] <phong_> Guest__, it has alot of text in it
[02:41] <phong_> where about to add it?
[02:41] <bazhang> skyistohigh, yes
[02:41] <phong_> end of the file?
[02:41] <Guest__> phong_ anywhere
[02:41] <phong_> ok thanks
[02:41] <violinappren> schindler: offtopic and it's a long story
[02:41] <rinzler> pavucontrol connection to pulse audio failed. what do I need to look for?
[02:41] <Guest__> phong_ end would be a good idea
[02:42] <DarwinSurvivor> phong_: I would *not* set your home folder to / as that will prevent any utilities from loading settings, etc (ex: .vimrc would have to be in /)
[02:42] <bazhang> schindler, thats quite extensive, please check the web
[02:42] <violinappren> rinzler: alt + f2, pulseaudio, enter and try again ?
[02:42] <DarwinSurvivor> phong_: setting in .bashrc is *definitely* a lot safer
[02:42] <skyistohigh> Installed BT on my old computer, hard to find the needed drivers and such.. I'm freaked out..
[02:42] <phong_> DarwinSurvivor, reason is that when i use Iphone 4 , FTP2go which doesn't has the go to parent folder
[02:43] <bazhang> skyistohigh, bt is not supported here
[02:43] <violinappren> !backtrack > skyistohigh
[02:43] <phong_> DarwinSurvivor, i'm lost
[02:43] <phong_> DarwinSurvivor, just tell me where to edit the file then
[02:43] <phong_> didn't u tell me to edit ~/.bashrc ?
[02:43] <DarwinSurvivor> phong_: hold on, you may have a different issue there
[02:43] <violinappren> phong_: nano ~/.bashrc
[02:43] <phong_> isn't it the same file?
[02:44] <skyistohigh> How do I check my private msges?
[02:44] <DarwinSurvivor> phong_: what does ftp have to do with ssh...?
[02:44] <violinappren> phong_: that will NOT change your home, will just automatically change directory after you login
[02:44] <bazhang> skyistohigh, /join #backtrack-linux
[02:44] <skyistohigh> There we go, o/
[02:44] <phong_> violinappren, exactly what i want to do
[02:44] <phong_> because iphone app..ftp2go doesn't have 'go to parent'
[02:44] <phong_> it start with 'home' folder
[02:45] <DarwinSurvivor> phong_: and what does ftp2go do?
[02:45] <rinzler> how do I set pulseaudio back to default configuration?
[02:45] <phong_> it is sftp
[02:45] <violinappren> phong_: it will only be useful you login to an interactive shell, and will not be effective while using an SFTP client
[02:45] <phong_> hard for me to explain, do u ever use AndFTP for android?
[02:45] <violinappren> rinzler: check in "Startup Applications" in settings if it's set to start on login
[02:46] <DarwinSurvivor> phong_: why not create a symlink to / "ln -s / ~/root" then go into that folder using ftp2go?
[02:46] <phong_> u can always go to parent folder
[02:46] <andrew[andrboot]> Hi guys, using 12.04 lts beta, and my media keys work immediatly after login, however it appears when unity loads aka "dock" they stop. is there a way around/fix?
[02:46] <phong_> and ftp2go for iphone doesn't have a link go to parent
[02:46] <phong_> so after i sftp in ,, it begin with my home directory
[02:47] <phong_> DarwinSurvivor, how to do it?
[02:47] <blackbear008> ?
[02:47] <DarwinSurvivor> phong_: you should also be able to set the start folder in ftp2go to / instead of ~/ (ex: sftp://user@ip://)
[02:47] <violinappren> phong_: and people are just supposed to .. go down ? you should look close in that app
[02:47] <andrew[andrboot]> ah
[02:47] <DarwinSurvivor> phong_: check the settings for that connection, there should be a default folder override of some kind
[02:47] <phong_> DarwinSurvivor, let me try with ur suggestion
[02:47] <phong_> brb
[02:48] <skyistohigh> Does anyone here manage to play minecraft on linux?
[02:48] <rinzler> violinappren: not seeing it in the settings menu, do you know the name of it to launch from terminal?
[02:48] <DarwinSurvivor> rule #1 of linux support: "Find the ROOT issue" :P
[02:48] <bazhang> skyistohigh, on backtrack?
[02:48] <phong_> DarwinSurvivor, actually the program for iphone is 'FTP On The Go'
[02:48] <phong_> ;)
[02:48] <violinappren> rinzler: look for "startup" in the dash?
[02:48] <skyistohigh> No, on ubuntu..
[02:48] <rinzler> violinappren: dash?
[02:49] <bazhang> skyistohigh, what version of ubuntu are you on
[02:49] <rodayo> When you change your wallpaper in precise the color of unity also changes with it...is there anyway to override this and assign one color at all times?
[02:49] <violinappren> rinzler: unity search box
[02:49] <phong_> error .....i did     this:     myipaddress:port/
[02:49] <DarwinSurvivor> phong_: what protocol is it using? Unless you installed an ftp server, it's using something else (ex: sftp, scp, ssh, etc)
[02:49] <phong_> it gives :  Error openning directory
[02:49] <rinzler> violinappren: ahh, well I'm using xfce, so that may throw a kink in things if you din't know that :P
[02:49] <phong_> SFTP
[02:49] <skyistohigh> The newest
[02:49] <phong_> i have port 22 for sftp
[02:50] <violinappren> rinzler: i use it too. cheers!
[02:50] <rinzler> violinappren: LOADS better than unity
[02:50] <DarwinSurvivor> phong_: ok, so that's basically interactive scp (which does use ssh). If your app doesn't support changing the "root" directory, just create a symlink on your ubuntu box and go into that
[02:50] <bazhang> skyistohigh, what does lsb_release -a return in the terminal  pastebin it
[02:50] <phong_> yeap
[02:50] <skyistohigh> 11.10  to be exact..
[02:50] <DarwinSurvivor> ex: "ln -s / ~/root" will make "~/root" the same as "/"
[02:51] <bazhang> !paste | skyistohigh
[02:51] <phong_> well show me how to do it in ubuntu
[02:51] <violinappren> rinzler: check if you have an entry for pulse in  ~/.config/autostart  .. if so, rm it
[02:51] <DarwinSurvivor> then you can just go into "~root/" and work from there :D
[02:51] <phong_> the ftp on the go dont' support root changing
[02:51] <phong_> it will go to my home lol
 thans for your help, the files copied but it doesnt seem to be working
[02:51] <phong_> i can't go back to root ;)
[02:51] <DarwinSurvivor> phong_: log into your ubuntu box and type "ln -s / ~/root"
[02:51] <phong_> nothing allow me to do that....but AndFTP will do it ;) on android phone
[02:51] <DarwinSurvivor> then you can just go into "~/root/" and work from there :D (sorry for typo in last version)
[02:51] <violinappren> nontechnical: the plugin may be older/incompatible with current version of gedit
[02:52] <phong_> DarwinSurvivor, do i have to do that everytime ?
[02:52] <nontechnical> yeah, thanks anyway - appreciate the help
[02:52] <violinappren> nontechnical: np
[02:52] <DarwinSurvivor> phong_: you only have to run "ln" once (that creates a symlink, sort of like a shortcut), then each time you connect just go into the "root" folder
[02:53] <DarwinSurvivor> !symlink | phong_
[02:53] <DarwinSurvivor> darn, hopped that would be more specific :(
[02:53] <phong_> DarwinSurvivor, my god
[02:53] <phong_> darm u
[02:53] <phong_> so good
[02:53] <phong_> oh my god, u're super good
[02:54] <phong_> i salute you!
[02:54] <phong_> all i do is click root folder
[02:54] <phong_> and it go to root ;)
[02:54] <DarwinSurvivor> phong_: you're welcome
[02:54] <rinzler> violinappren: only entry in that folder is "xfce4-settings-helper-autostart.desktop"
[02:54] <phong_> how did u figure that out?
[02:54] <phong_> DarwinSurvivor, what is pass mode and active mode meant?
[02:54] <DarwinSurvivor> phong_: now you know why I always find the original problem when someone asks a weird question, makes the solution WAY simpler :P
[02:55] <violinappren> rinzler: what did you do that messed up pulse? edited any conf files?
[02:55] <violinappren> rinzler: it might have just crashed
[02:55] <DarwinSurvivor> phong_: I use symlinks on a regular basis, they are a very common tool on the command line
[02:55] <skyistohigh> What?
[02:56] <DarwinSurvivor> phong_: passive mode and active mode only apply to FTP and changes the way it handles ports, since you are using sftp (which uses ssh instead of ftp), it does not apply
[02:56] <phong_> oh
[02:56] <skyistohigh> Gotta grab a bottle of coke
[02:56] <skyistohigh> Distributor ID: Ubuntu
[02:56] <skyistohigh> Description:    Ubuntu 11.10
[02:56] <skyistohigh> Release:        11.10
[02:56] <skyistohigh> Codename:       oneiric
[02:57] <phong_> ok if i want to creat a link to a folder  start /mnt/blabla        and have a folder link to it ?
[02:58] <phong_> DarwinSurvivor, let say i want   to access:    /mnt/blabla          when i sftp to my home, i want to ahve a folder name 'go_to_tomyblabla'
[02:58] <phong_> DarwinSurvivor,  ?
[02:58] <phong_> ls -s /mnt/blabla   /myownblabla ???
[02:58] <violinappren> phong_:  ln -s target link_name
[02:59] <phong_> let me try ;)
[02:59] <DarwinSurvivor> phong_: ln, not ls, and remove the / in the second part
[02:59] <indystorm> Hey when will the final ubuntu 12.04 64 bit server be available for download??
[02:59] <phong_> oh
[02:59] <violinappren> phong_: type in a terminal: man ln
[02:59] <phong_> ok thanks i got it
[02:59] <DarwinSurvivor> phong_: "ln -s /mnt/blabla myownblabla"
[02:59] <skyistohigh> Does anyone know a command to get a overview over my installed graphic card? Like, what model it is?
[02:59] <phong_> perfect very clear now
[02:59] <bazhang> indystorm, no set time
[02:59] <DarwinSurvivor> that will put "myownblabla" in the CURRENT directory. if you are not in your home folder change it to "~/myownblabla"
[02:59] <violinappren> skyistohigh: sudo lshw -C display
[02:59] <bazhang> skyistohigh, lspci   then paste.ubuntu.com  NOT here
[03:00] <DarwinSurvivor> ~ means /home/my_usermane
[03:00] <indystorm> no set time? the launch was Thursday I thought??
[03:00] <bazhang> !pastebin | skyistohigh
[03:00] <bazhang> !party | indystorm
[03:00] <rinzler> violinappren: well, I tried manually restarting is with the command that pavucontrol gave me, but it wouldn't work, so I thought setting the config files back to default from whatever happend to them, i might have a chance to fix it easly...
[03:00] <phong_> hey DarwinSurvivor thanks man and violinappren
[03:00] <skyistohigh> Ah, thank you very much.. Exact the info I needed..
[03:00] <phong_> so simple as it is ;)
[03:01] <bazhang> skyistohigh, pastbin it, not here
[03:01] <rinzler> violinappren: it was working last boot...
[03:01] <Telamon> Anyone know why my system suddenly reinstalled PulseAudio?  I removed it, but now my volume control doesn't seem to work in mplayer (and maybe other stuff as well)
[03:01] <violinappren> rinzler: yes what exactly did you change?
[03:01] <rinzler> violinappren: I didn't change anything
[03:02] <violinappren> rinzler: try logging out and in and see if it works
[03:02] <skyistohigh> pastbin what?
[03:02] <rinzler> violinappren: ok. brb, then...
[03:03] <bazhang> skyistohigh, you wanted to know your video card... pastebin that info  .. not into the channel
[03:04] <rodhash> Hello guys... I'm facing two issues with my Oneiric...
[03:04] <rodhash> 1 - Login keyring keeps continuously asking password to unlock keyring... anyidea why? Usually when I access some site with my password saved....
[03:04] <rodhash> 2. It also happens when I reconnect to my wireless, but sometimes not... sometimes it loads the saved password automaticaly.... any idea?
[03:04] <rinzler> violinappren: "hello IT, Have you tried turning it off and on again?" *mumblemumble*
[03:05] <violinappren> rinzler: so it works..?
[03:05] <ActionParsnip> rinzler: trust me, it works
[03:06] <rinzler> violinappren: yep. thanks for putting up with me :P
[03:06] <violinappren> rinzler: np :)
[03:06] <rinzler> ActionParsnip: the next question asked is always "and are you sure it's plugged in?"
[03:06] <DarwinSurvivor> rodhash: are you SURE you are typing it in correctly?
[03:06] <violinappren> rinzler: ActionParsnip: if you write thousands of lines of code, you will know why it works, heh!
[03:06] <DarwinSurvivor> rodhash: remember, use your KEYRING password, it's not necessarily the same as your login password
[03:07] <DarwinSurvivor> rodhash: also check caps-lock
[03:10] <rodhash> Yes... I'm sure the password is correct for keyring...
[03:10] <rodhash> How can I manage its password?
[03:10] <rodhash> Change it, etc?
[03:10] <violinappren> rodhash: seahorse
[03:11] <skyistohigh> Okay, sorry for asking so much. But what is the command to run .run files ?
[03:11] <DarwinSurvivor> skyistohigh: is the file executable?
[03:12] <violinappren> skyistohigh: chmod u+x file.run; ./file.run
[03:12] <skyistohigh> No, it was not..
[03:12] <DarwinSurvivor> and where did it come from? .run files are typically used to install binary drivers and apps and are *notorious* for F*($%ing up machines
[03:12] <rodhash> Ok guys... thanks for the help!!
[03:13] <lnxten> what is the channel name for release party?
[03:13] <bazhang> skyistohigh, this is a jar? for minecraft?
[03:13] <faryshta> how do I use midori browser with tor?
[03:13] <violinappren> !party > lnxten
[03:14] <skyistohigh> No, I am trying to install my graphic driver.. Wich I got mailed from the support for linux.. I did what violin said, but then I got "ERROR: nvidia-installer must be run as root"
[03:14] <bazhang> skyistohigh, thats not the way to install drivers for ubuntu
[03:14] <violinappren> skyistohigh: then sudo ./file.run
[03:15] <Bennlucky7> su -
[03:15] <violinappren> skyistohigh: look for "additional drivers" in the application list
[03:15] <bazhang> Bennlucky7, no never that
[03:15] <skyistohigh> This is a 6years old graphic card..
[03:15] <violinappren> Bennlucky7: su is not enabled by default on ubuntu
[03:15] <skyistohigh> even older, it's from 2005
[03:15] <DarwinSurvivor> skyistohigh: installing graphic drivers from a .run file is EXTREMELY dangerous. I have hose many machines doing that. Why not use the ones in the repository?
[03:15] <violinappren> Bennlucky7: to get a root shell, use: sudo -i
[03:16] <chelz> !party
[03:16] <DarwinSurvivor> skyistohigh: have you *tried* in the drivers in the repositories?
[03:16] <Bennlucky7> is threa diffrent?
[03:16] <bazhang> Bennlucky7, yes. use sudo
[03:16] <violinappren> !sudo | Bennlucky7
[03:16] <skyistohigh> yes
[03:17] <skyistohigh> My gameboy can run smoother..
[03:18] <DarwinSurvivor> skyistohigh: what video card do you have
[03:19] <Boohbah> is the pangolin coming out tomorrow?
[03:19] <DarwinSurvivor> i can guarantee you that any .run driver that is any good is already available in the repositories. i can also guarantee that if the driver does not work (which it probably won't), you will NOT be able to remove it OR replace it with a new one
[03:20] <skyistohigh> 7300le I believe it is..
[03:20] <DarwinSurvivor> !nvidia | skyistohigh
[03:21] <chelz> Boohbah: it should be out in the next 21 hours
[03:21] <DarwinSurvivor> skyistohigh: if those instructions don't work, then come back and we'll see what else can be done.
[03:21] <philo456> hi guys , i am need to download some files("ofline" using wget)  but i  know the precise url , just the base and the file... for example : wget base/some/variable/unknow/dir/filename.etx
[03:21] <chelz> Boohbah: #ubuntu-release-party
[03:21] <philo456> i dont know *
[03:22] <philo456> hi guys , i need to download some files("ofline" using wget)  but i  dont know the precise url , just the base and the file... for example : wget base/some/variable/unknow/dir/filename.etx , is there  a wget options for that case ?
[03:22] <Boohbah> chelz: thanks :)
[03:22] <DarwinSurvivor> philo456: how can you download things while offline?
[03:23] <Boohbah> DarwinSurvivor: sneakernet
[03:23] <philo456> DarwinSurvivor:  offline is not the good word i meant in batch mode
[03:24] <Boohbah> philo456: http://www.linuxquestions.org/questions/linux-networking-3/use-wget-to-download-multiple-files-with-wildcards-603486/
[03:24] <chelz> philo456: see the -A option in wget's manpage
[03:25] <DarwinSurvivor> skyistohigh: if those instructions don't work, please try the first solution on http://askubuntu.com/questions/38853/is-the-nvidia-geforce-7300-le-blacklisted
[03:26] <rbik> what is pangolin?
[03:26] <DarwinSurvivor> rbik: the user or the release?
[03:26] <chelz> rbik: A pangolin scaly anteater, or trenggiling, is a mammal of the order Pholidota.
[03:26] <chelz> Pangolins, often called “scaly anteaters,” are covered in tough, overlapping scales. These burrowing mammals eat ants and termites using an extraordinarily ...
[03:26] <philo456> thanks chelz Boohbah
[03:27] <rbik> the release
[03:27] <DarwinSurvivor> lol, totally misunderstood the question :P
[03:27] <chelz> 12.04, the newest LTS release
[03:27] <ActionParsnip> rbik: http://blogs.scientificamerican.com/extinction-countdown/files/2012/02/pangolin.jpg
[03:27] <chelz> server and desktop packages in "main" are supported for 5 years
[03:27] <chelz> 2017!
[03:27] <chelz> i'm not updating until i'm a warlord
[03:27] <skyistohigh> blacklisted :O
[03:28] <philo456> chelz:  the -A option only allow me to specify suffix or pattern ,... i have a liste of name
[03:28] <chelz> philo456: you can put all those in comma-separated
[03:29] <chelz> wget -A "green,blue,brown"
[03:30] <philo456> chelz: the doc says if i do so it will be interpreted as file extensions
[03:30] <DarwinSurvivor> skyistohigh: if you got any errors, please pastebin what you ran as well as the output you got (copy/paste the entire terminal session)
[03:30] <kiama2005> Unable to access Ubuntu software centre from icon on desktop .
[03:31] <chelz> philo456: my manpage says "           Specify comma-separated lists of file name suffixes or patterns to           accept or reject."
[03:31] <chelz> philo456: do them as patterns
[03:31] <dcoy> Hi, I'm trying to get Conky to work on Xubuntu.  I try to find the dir /usr/share/doc/conky/examples/, but the "examples" folder isn't there, and i need to edit the file .conkyrc.  Any ideas?
[03:32] <ActionParsnip> kiama2005: are you fully updated?
[03:32] <mamemame187> hello
[03:32] <ActionParsnip> dcoy: I suggest you find sample files online and tweak
[03:32] <sjd> where can download ubuntu12.04 lts
[03:32] <kiama2005> ActionnParsnip yes
[03:32] <ActionParsnip> dcoy: the file will be ~/.conkyrc
[03:33] <philo456> chelz:  a patern would be something as [name1 name2 name3 ] ?
[03:33] <philo456> chelz:  a patern would be something as "[name1 name2 name3 ]" ?
[03:33] <dcoy> That's the file I can't find.  Do I just need to download that file somewhere online, create an "examples" folder myself, and go from there?
[03:33] <chelz> philo456: you gotta google that up
[03:33] <DarwinSurvivor> dcoy: http://conky.sourceforge.net/screenshots.html has screenshots with .conkyrc's given (link below each screenshot)
[03:33] <philo456> k thanks chelz
[03:33] <ActionParsnip> dcoy: yes you will need to find one online and drop it in the root of your home folder. Then run conky
[03:34] <mamemame187> sjd- u can in a few hours
[03:34] <dcoy> Ah, okay.  I appreciate it Action and Darwin.  I will give it a try and see what happens.  Thank you!
[03:34] <DarwinSurvivor> dcoy: if you want to try different ones without constantly renaming you can run "conky -c name_of_conky_file"
[03:34] <dcoy> Sounds good.  I'll stay in here and ask if I need any help.  Thank you
[03:35] <sjd> mamemame187 thank you
[03:36] <simtsit> hi people :)
[03:37] <simtsit> version 12.04 will be ready within next hours?
[03:37] <DarwinSurvivor> !outyet simtsit
[03:37] <DarwinSurvivor> !outyet | simtsit
[03:37] <ApocGoD> Can anyone help me with some driver issues?
[03:38] <DarwinSurvivor> ApocGoD: drivers for what?
[03:38] <celthunder> ApocGoD: more info
[03:38] <simtsit> thnx DarwinSurvivor :)
[03:38] <celthunder> DarwinSurvivor: you lost the award :)
[03:38] <ApocGoD> Ubuntu 11.10 Gnome 3, drivers for a Dynex DX WC101 webcam.
[03:38] <DarwinSurvivor> celthunder: there's an award...?
[03:39] <celthunder> DarwinSurvivor: yeah but you survived :) darwin awards go to the dead (i think)
[03:39] <celthunder> unless i have the wrong awards
[03:39] <DarwinSurvivor> celthunder: oh, lol
[03:39] <kiama2005> Ubuntu 11.10 will not access Software Centre any ideas?
[03:40] <celthunder> ApocGoD: does it show up in lspci / lsusb?
[03:40] <InferiorHumanOrg> A Darwin award is for removing your self from the genepool in a very stupid way.
[03:40] <DarwinSurvivor> celthunder: no, that's mostly correct. You don't need to be dead, just unable to reproduce (neutred, etc counts as well)
[03:40] <celthunder> lol
[03:41] <ApocGoD> @celthunder,  it shows up as Bus 001 Device 038: ID 05a9:8519 OmniVision Technologies, Inc. OV519 Webcam
[03:41] <celthunder> kiama2005: ?
[03:41] <DarwinSurvivor> ApocGoD: what have you used to test it so far? (ex: cheese, vlc, etc)
[03:42] <z3r0d3rp> gontlemen
[03:42] <ApocGoD> @DarwinSurvivor, i've used Cheese, it says No device found
[03:42] <ActionParsnip> ApocGoD: does it show in cheese?
[03:43] <DarwinSurvivor> ApocGoD: can you pastebin the output of dmesg?
[03:43] <ApocGoD> ActionParsnip, No, says No device found
[03:43] <ApocGoD> DarwinSurvivor, Yes, one moment
[03:43] <kiama2005> Thanks celthunder not sure what your question is.
[03:43] <ActionParsnip> ApocGoD: http://forum.ubuntu-fr.org/viewtopic.php?id=88555
[03:44] <ApocGoD> DarwinSurvivor, http://pastebin.com/pjYZCY7q
[03:44] <ActionParsnip> ApocGoD: http://ubuntuforums.org/archive/index.php/t-1384517.html
[03:44] <ApocGoD> ActionParsnip, reading now.
[03:44] <celthunder> kiama2005: it doesnt access sw center as in? it doesnt start?
[03:45] <ActionParsnip> ApocGoD: all I did was us the 8 character hex ID you provided....
[03:46] <kiama2005> Celthunder keep getting erroe sw centre not responding.
[03:46] <DarwinSurvivor> AGoodName: is this a built-in device or usb?
[03:46] <ApocGoD> ActionParsnip,  I tried searching for it in Google, kept getting no response. These pages aren't making much sense after translating to english. Checking now.
[03:46] <ApocGoD> Darwin, if that is to me, it's USB
[03:47] <celthunder> kiama2005: start it from a terminal any errors
[03:47] <kiama2005> celthunder how still learning?
[03:47] <DarwinSurvivor> AGoodName: ApocGoD sorry, autocomplete fail :(
[03:48] <ApocGoD> DarwinSurvivor, No worries, it's USB
[03:49] <DarwinSurvivor> brb
[03:51] <BlueClaw> What is the channel for Ubuntu noob questions?
[03:51] <celthunder> BlueClaw: this one or #ubuntu-beginners
[03:52] <celthunder> but nobody really uses the other one
[03:53] <john_2> noob here is 1204 beta 2 stable
[03:53] <dcoy> Darwin and Action, thank you.
[03:53] <DarwinSurvivor> back
[03:54] <celthunder> john_2: its beta...so no?though i think someone said itll be released tomorrow
[03:54] <Matan[M]> good morning, when is release of stable 12.04?
[03:54] <rinzler> john_2 Matan[M]: there'
[03:55] <rinzler> 's a release party at #ubuntu-release-party
[03:55] <rinzler> if you wanna check that out...
[03:55] <DarwinSurvivor> !outyet | Matan[M]
[03:56] <DarwinSurvivor> BlueClaw: did you have a question?
[03:57] <z3r0d3rp> anyone know if 12.04 is going to have the unified menus
[03:57] <ApocGoD> Wb Darwin.
[03:57] <ApocGoD> Any idea on myissue?
[03:57] <z3r0d3rp> or strictly HUD
[03:57] <hagom> good night, can someone help me with gcc?
[03:57] <Maccer> Does the CD version of Ubuntu 11.x include build-essentials and other build tools?  I need to compile network drivers not available by default. :(
[03:58] <z3r0d3rp> I would help but I am on vicodin due to wisdom teeth removal and playing the end of HL1
[03:58] <z3r0d3rp> so my focus is a bit off
[03:58] <Maccer> ( as well as linux-headers )
[04:00] <Trel> I just installed a server, and when it got to the network setup, I didn't have a connection, so I choose to configure later. I now have a network connection, what do I need to do to make it connect (dhcp) and connect on subsequent reboots.
[04:00] <z3r0d3rp> if anyone knows whether a. I can get the unified program menus working in 11.10 or whether they will keep them in 12.02 that would be appreciated
[04:00] <Trel> (this is ubuntu 11 server)
[04:00] <Trel> will it just be sudo eth(whatever) up?
[04:00] <z3r0d3rp> dhclient eth0
[04:00] <z3r0d3rp> sudo !!
[04:01] <z3r0d3rp> etc
[04:01] <DarwinSurvivor> ApocGoD: could you run dmesg, then unplug and replug the webcam, then run demsg again?
[04:01] <Trel> will that stick on reboots, z3r0d3rp?
[04:01] <ApocGoD> DarwinSurvivor,  Just a moment
[04:01] <DarwinSurvivor> then post both dmesg's so we can tell which part is related to the webcam
[04:01] <z3r0d3rp> well you have to config your connection
[04:01] <z3r0d3rp> a server should not be dhcp
[04:01] <z3r0d3rp> you will need to forward ports etc
[04:02] <z3r0d3rp> you should ifconfig it
[04:02] <z3r0d3rp> then reserve it in your router
[04:02] <z3r0d3rp> then forward for ssh apache etc
[04:02] <z3r0d3rp> but to get it to work now
[04:02] <z3r0d3rp> you can do sudo dhclient eth0
[04:03] <mdel> hey all - if I'm installing ubuntu in Parallels 7 on mac, what is the proper image to download?
[04:03] <mdel> x86 or AMD64? (core 2 duo)
[04:03] <z3r0d3rp> 64
[04:03] <ApocGoD> DarwinSurvivor, http://pastebin.com/SPDsX8hu
[04:03] <z3r0d3rp> either
[04:03] <mdel> also I see listed an image that explicitly says "Mac" but I dont know if that applies when running in a VM
[04:03] <z3r0d3rp> basically I suggest using 64 on a 64 bit processor
[04:03] <z3r0d3rp> no it doesn't
[04:04] <mdel> ok that makes sense
[04:04] <z3r0d3rp> a vm emulates a pc hardware
[04:04] <mdel> awesome... thanks!
[04:04] <z3r0d3rp> the mac image is probably for PPC
[04:04] <mdel> it says AMD64 Mac
[04:04] <robertzaccour> kdenlive does everything fine except for rendering when I make a title clip. It always fails to render. any suggestions?
[04:04] <robertzaccour> would it make a difference if I was using it in KDE perhaps?
[04:04] <z3r0d3rp> ok then it is made with driver support
[04:04] <mdel> http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/daily-live/current/
[04:05] <z3r0d3rp> for bare metal install
[04:05] <mdel> why wouldn't the driver support just be included...?
[04:05] <z3r0d3rp> I would reccomend installing it in a partition with the mac image
[04:05] <mdel> i guess for size
[04:05] <z3r0d3rp> that way you can fully utilize the system
[04:05] <z3r0d3rp> vm's are ok but...
[04:05] <bodom> Hi there, I'm trying to solve a routing issue. Is there a way i can push a route to all my LAN clients?
[04:05] <mdel> z3r0d3rp: yeah... tried that, a TON
[04:06] <mdel> its definitely not stable
[04:06] <z3r0d3rp> I have 10.10 running on my macbook g5
[04:06] <mdel> yeah, I think after 11.04 support is crappy
[04:06] <z3r0d3rp> or was it 10.04
[04:06] <mdel> or at least not as solid
[04:06] <Maccer> Can some one do me a favor and retrieve the build-essentials and linux-header packages for what ever kernel 11.x has?  (I have no internet drivers)
[04:06] <Trel> z3r0d3rp: I give the server it's IP from my router (static DHCP), I just need to know if using dhclient will stick
[04:06] <mdel> also i would need to access the files read/write, and I would want to use Ubuntu as my main OS if I installed it
[04:07] <z3r0d3rp> maccer google
[04:07] <Maccer> z3r0d3rp:  No seriously.
[04:07] <mdel> which means I would need to use fuse on osx... which isn't 100% safe
[04:07] <Maccer> I'm on windows so...
[04:07] <z3r0d3rp> Trel, you should configure it in ifconfig
[04:07] <z3r0d3rp> and it will stick
[04:08] <z3r0d3rp> I repeat... servers are not meant to use dhcp
[04:08] <Trel> z3r0d3rp: is there a basic tutorial, or is it ifconfig <interface> up, provided it's dhcp
[04:08] <mdel> man ifconfig
[04:08] <z3r0d3rp> ^
[04:09] <mdel> always step 1
[04:09] <Trel> z3r0d3rp: this server is behind a router with static dhcp
[04:09] <DarwinSurvivor> ApocGoD: I'm not seeing any fatal errors, but there appears to be something ELSE on your system that ubuntu doesn't like...
[04:09] <z3r0d3rp> dhcp is for easy configuration of client computers in SOHO or public networks
[04:09] <ApocGoD> DarwinSurvivor, What would that be? Any idea?
[04:09] <dirkle> does anyone have experience with dual booting Win7 and Ubuntu using UEFI? I've followed /community/UEFIBooting but my system is still booting straight into Windows
[04:09] <z3r0d3rp> by definition it is not for servers
[04:09] <DarwinSurvivor> something in a usb port. is it a desktop or laptop?
[04:09] <Trel> z3r0d3rp: my current router setup will not allow something to connect if it's not assigned an IP via DHCP, hence, I need to use dhcp.
[04:10] <ApocGoD> Desktop
[04:10] <ApocGoD> The three things that are plugged in via usb are a mouse, keyboard and webcam.
[04:10] <z3r0d3rp> Trel you can assign an ip in your router config outside of the dhcp pool
[04:10] <DarwinSurvivor> ApocGoD: ok, is there anything else connected to the usb ports?
[04:10] <ApocGoD> I unplugged my SD cardreader to plug in the webcam.
[04:10] <z3r0d3rp> or just reserve a dhcp address
[04:11] <z3r0d3rp> and use ifconfig to perm assign it
[04:11] <mdel> or assign it by mac
[04:11] <DarwinSurvivor> Trel: most routers start dhcp at xxx.xxx.x.100 or something and have their own ip as .1 or .2 so anything from .3 to .99 should be available for static IP's
[04:11] <mdel> on the router
[04:11] <Trel> z3r0d3rp, I don't want to argue my network setup. I can do static dhcp, but I cannot allow any machine to connect unless it's IP is assigned via DHCP
[04:11] <z3r0d3rp> yeah that is how the router reserves it
[04:11] <DarwinSurvivor> ApocGoD: anything else (keyboard, mouse, printer, scanner, camera, external usb, flash drive, etc)?
[04:12] <z3r0d3rp> Trel that makes no sense
[04:12] <mdel> no arguing... just use your network in the way described, and it will work
[04:12] <z3r0d3rp> use dhclient for now
[04:12] <z3r0d3rp> then google ifconfig
[04:12] <z3r0d3rp> I won't walk you through it
[04:12] <ApocGoD> DarwinSurvivor, keyboard, mouse, webcam at the moment. I unplugged my SD cardreader to plug in the webcam
[04:12] <Trel> z3r0d3rp: I will do so, and for what it's worth, it's due to the way this network is setup by the owner. I can't argue with him, so I can only do what he lets me.
[04:13] <z3r0d3rp> ok that makes sense
[04:13] <z3r0d3rp> usually routers keep the dhcp lease anyway
[04:13] <ghost_> Does anyone know what time today ubuntu 12.04 will be released
[04:13] <z3r0d3rp> but why you are using a server inside someone else's network is problematic
[04:13] <mdel> Trel: you could try to find an open IP and use DHCP with manual IP
[04:13] <z3r0d3rp> you will not be able to forward ports
[04:14] <DarwinSurvivor> ok, can you run "watch 'dmesg | tail' " and then unplug ALL usb device and see if you still keep getting new usb errors? if you get none, start plugging stuff in 1 at a time to see if any other devices are causing errors. that will help us read your dmesg more clearly
[04:14] <ApocGoD> ok
[04:14] <z3r0d3rp> use dhcp first... then assign the ip it gives you as static
[04:14] <z3r0d3rp> the router will almost certainly keep the lease as long as the machine is up and doesn't go off for a long time
[04:14] <Trel> z3r0d3rp, it's a minecraft server for use on an intranet. mdel, if the machine does not obtain it's IP via DHCP, it will be blocked, so once I switch to static, I'll get blocked when it tries to connect next.
[04:15] <z3r0d3rp> no it won't
[04:15] <mdel> you aren't going to be able to host minecraft
[04:15] <mdel> you cant open ports
[04:15] <mdel> fail
[04:15] <Trel> he manually blocks it
[04:15] <z3r0d3rp> he said it's on a lan
[04:15] <BaconAttack_> Why would he need ports open on a lan
[04:15] <mdel> ah,  my bad
[04:15] <Trel> It's a company minecraft server.
[04:15] <mdel> missed that cause webchat suckkkks
[04:15] <robertzaccour> kdenlive does everything fine except for rendering when I make a title clip. It always fails to render. any suggestions?
[04:15] <z3r0d3rp> the router will give you an ip via dhcp then you can keep it
[04:16] <DarwinSurvivor> Trel: are you trying to get us to help you set up a minecraft server at your workplace without IT finding out...?
[04:16] <ApocGoD> Darwin, I found the issue. It's my SD card reader.
[04:16] <z3r0d3rp> the router is set up to keep ip leases for a given period of time
[04:16] <z3r0d3rp> as to allow for downtime
[04:16] <Trel> DarwinSurvivor: considering the owner is setting the static dhcp, no.
[04:16] <z3r0d3rp> so you should get the same one every time you ask for one
[04:16] <Trel> I'm just very constrained by his weird-ass rules.
[04:16] <z3r0d3rp> provided the lease doesn't expire
[04:16] <z3r0d3rp> it's a common setup
[04:17] <mdel> im not even sure what the rules are meant to do...
[04:17] <waxgoblin> hey is anyone here familar with moneypak greendot?
[04:17] <z3r0d3rp> trel use dhclient
[04:17] <mdel> waxgoblin: seriously
[04:17] <DarwinSurvivor> ApocGoD: ok, leave that unplugged, wait a minute, run dmesg (pastebin it), plug in webcam, run dmesg (pastebin it), lsusb (pastebin it), unplug webcam (pastebin it)
[04:17] <mdel> gtfo
[04:17] <DarwinSurvivor> 4 pastebin's in total
[04:17] <Trel> I am, thanks for the help.
[04:17] <waxgoblin> hey is anyone here familar with moneypak greendot???
[04:17] <Jordan_U> Trel: You want to configure /etc/network/interfaceI
[04:17] <z3r0d3rp> then set up the ip it gives you as a static ip for that server
[04:17] <z3r0d3rp> done deal
[04:18] <ApocGoD> @DarwinSurvivor, I got the webcam to work also..I think i'm good to go. :D
[04:18] <waxgoblin> help please
[04:18] <waxgoblin> i know
[04:18] <waxgoblin> oh god
[04:18] <DarwinSurvivor> ApocGoD: what did you do to get it working?
[04:18] <dr_willis> ask a real question
[04:18] <ApocGoD> waxgoblin, this isn't the place for those type of questions.
[04:19] <mdel> lol
[04:19] <mdel> "oh god"
[04:19] <mdel> lol
[04:19] <z3r0d3rp> also what kind of company has a minecraft server run by someone who can't configure an ip address?
[04:19] <ApocGoD> @DarwinSurvivor, It was interfering with the mouse, since it's all plugged into a USB hub. Thanks for your help :D
[04:19] <z3r0d3rp> not to be rude (blame the vicodin)
[04:19] <mdel> z3r0d3rp: too much time spent playing minecraft
[04:20] <DarwinSurvivor> ApocGoD: ah, cheap hubs can do that :P
[04:20] <ApocGoD> @DarwinSurvivor, Mhm, now to just plug it in normally, haha. Thanks
[04:20] <joemppe> I'm suppoesd to be setting up a company minecraft server. I can set up an IP address but I've never played minecraft. is that better or worse?
[04:20] <DarwinSurvivor> ApocGoD: no problem
[04:20] <z3r0d3rp> better
[04:21] <joemppe> d:
[04:21] <z3r0d3rp> I haven't played MC since alpha
[04:21] <mdel> joemppe: IT experts get paid more than box stackers, as a rule
[04:21] <z3r0d3rp> lol
[04:21] <DarwinSurvivor> mdel: and yet many IT experts are expected to stack their own boxes :(
[04:21] <z3r0d3rp> I am a network admin and security consultant but I am unemployed so...
[04:22] <z3r0d3rp> not always true
[04:22] <z3r0d3rp> lol
[04:22] <azl> how to add app to startup
[04:22] <joemppe> d'oh
[04:22] <azl> /
[04:22] <dr_willis> !autorun
[04:22] <mdel> azl: HOW IS BABBY FORMED
[04:22] <waxgoblin> there is no way a clerk could have stole a greendot money pak is there?
[04:22] <mdel> waxgoblin: dude... wtf are you talking about... not the right place
[04:22] <azl> no idea :D LOL
[04:22] <mdel> waxgoblin: are you on drugs?
[04:22] <dr_willis> !startup
[04:22] <z3r0d3rp> I am on drugs lol
[04:23] <waxgoblin> im scared man
[04:23] <waxgoblin> i put $300 on the card
[04:23] <DarwinSurvivor> !kick
[04:23] <hnsz> yup, me too
[04:23] <DarwinSurvivor> damn
[04:23] <waxgoblin> i was scratching off the silver lining with my fingernail and two numbers came off
[04:23] <mdel> waxgoblin: whats wrong man?
[04:23] <azl> thx
[04:23] <waxgoblin> is there anyway to check the balance
[04:23] <waxgoblin> ?
[04:23] <mdel> waxgoblin: ywah
[04:23] <mdel> yeah*
[04:23] <DarwinSurvivor> mdel: just ignore him, he's obviously trolling
[04:23] <waxgoblin> how?
[04:23] <waxgoblin> without getting the account locked
[04:23] <mdel> waxgoblin: scratch the rest off
[04:23] <DarwinSurvivor> lol
[04:23] <waxgoblin> what does a 4 look like
[04:23] <waxgoblin> on a greendot
[04:24] <dr_willis> waxgoblin:  not ubuntu related.... take it elsewhere
[04:24] <waxgoblin> does it have _ at the bottom
[04:24] <waxgoblin> ?
[04:24] <FloodBot1> waxgoblin: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[04:24] <azl> im usin 11.10
[04:24] <waxgoblin> how can i check the balance
[04:24] <waxgoblin> if i was to call greendot can they figure it out
[04:24] <waxgoblin> if i give them the receipt number
[04:24] <waxgoblin> they are closed now
[04:24] <waxgoblin> oh god
[04:24] <z3r0d3rp> azl it's in preferences startup applications
[04:24] <waxgoblin> :(
[04:25] <z3r0d3rp> hit super key type start
[04:25] <z3r0d3rp> select startup applications
[04:25] <nontechnical> quick question - if i cd into a file, but it's empty and i want to add content to it from the terminal, what commands do i run?
[04:26] <sacarlson> what package is best to support tor network on Lubuntu?  when I look at tork  I see it will install a large group of libs
[04:26] <DarwinSurvivor> nontechnical: define "content"
[04:26] <dr_willis> nontechnical:  you dont cd into a file
[04:26] <DarwinSurvivor> !tor | sacarlson
[04:26] <nontechnical> im creating a https server
[04:26] <nontechnical> i could use gedit, but wondering if theres a way to do it in terminal
[04:27] <dr_willis> you can make a file with the touch or echo commands
[04:27] <mdel> !editors | nontechnical
[04:27] <z3r0d3rp> you have to   touch /directory/filename to ake a file first
[04:27] <LeV91> At what time is the official release?
[04:27] <z3r0d3rp> then use a text editor
[04:27] <dr_willis> LeV91:  no set time
[04:27] <wylde> !editors
[04:27] <dr_willis> bbl
[04:27] <z3r0d3rp> you can also directly output to a file
[04:28] <z3r0d3rp> but that is more advanced
[04:28] <DarwinSurvivor> nontechnical: nano is easiest for beginners
[04:28] <z3r0d3rp> how do bash
[04:28] <limescout> I like nano a lot
[04:28] <z3r0d3rp> lol
[04:28] <limescout> personal preference
[04:28] <mdel> vim, sublime text 2 :)
[04:28] <wylde> 'echo this is a way to add text to a file from the command line > likethis.txt'
[04:28] <mdel> um, no
[04:28] <Umair> I too am waiting for release, when can we get it?
[04:29] <sacarlson> DarwinSurvivor: I did a search in synaptic on Lubuntu and didn't see the tor package,  I am now apt-get update;  to see if it fills in
[04:29] <nontechnical> ok thanks <darwinsurvivor>
[04:29] <z3r0d3rp> emacs fo lyfe
[04:29] <DarwinSurvivor> wylde: that would REPLACE the text. to ADD a line, use >>
[04:29] <mdel> Umair: when its ready
[04:29] <hnsz> Umair: >>
[04:29] <wylde> DarwinSurvivor: I know :) I was getting there, you can use > to an empty file
[04:29] <z3r0d3rp> no stomp
[04:29] <mdel> that command was in correct anyway
[04:30] <mdel> quotes are fubar
[04:30] <hnsz> wylde: yes and a file with content also
[04:30] <azl> how to enable window animations in ubuntu 11.10
[04:30] <wylde> hnsz: if you want to overwrite it
[04:30] <z3r0d3rp> echo /dev/random >> derp.txt
[04:31] <hnsz> wylde: idd
[04:31] <DarwinSurvivor> z3r0d3rp: don't use that for secure erasure. some filesystems create a new file and simply rewrite the entry in the fs table.
[04:32] <sacarlson> nope no tor package found in Lubuntu maybe in ppa?
[04:32] <azl> how to enable window animations in ubuntu 11.10
[04:32] <z3r0d3rp> I don't I use wipe or bleachbit
[04:32] <chelz> z3r0d3rp: shred -vuz file.ext
[04:32] <z3r0d3rp> a single overwrite on ext4 is good enough on modern disks
[04:35] <z3r0d3rp> anyone else here hate unity until they realized that it has almost no overhead on a laptop?
[04:35] <Ztane> i still hate unity, it has overhead on my laptop (asus 1215n), bc the opengl does not work at all :(
[04:36] <z3r0d3rp> I tested 36 minute power extension in my laptop idling over cinnamon and 50 minutes over kde
[04:37] <z3r0d3rp> since I use kupfer for everything anyway I decided that it was pretty effective
[04:37] <z3r0d3rp> still don't care for it on a workstation though
[04:38] <centaur5> Can anybody tell me the directory that precise saves desktop settings in the home directory? .gconf and .gnome2 used to be the directories I duplicated in Lucid to make all my machines the same.
[04:38] <z3r0d3rp> Ztane, what kind of gpu do you have?
[04:38] <z3r0d3rp> centaur5, defends on the WM and DM
[04:38] <z3r0d3rp> depends
[04:39] <|DM|> wut?
[04:39] <centaur5> z3r0d3rp, default of course
[04:39] <|DM|> z3r0d3rp: you called?
[04:39] <kip> Anyone still around that can help with Sun Java install?
[04:39] <|DM|> defend on me?
[04:40] <arinov> when can i download 12.04 lts?
[04:40] <z3r0d3rp> I think you are looking for .config
[04:41] <DarwinSurvivor> centaur5: it also depends on the app. some are hardwired for one or the other, others go by the framework (gtk, qt), others use something else entirely
[04:41] <DarwinSurvivor> !outyet arinov
[04:41] <z3r0d3rp> ^
[04:41] <DarwinSurvivor> wtf, is it out?!?
[04:41] <a_b0y> when is 12.04 going to be released??
[04:41] <z3r0d3rp> I think he is looking for unity settings etc
[04:41] <DarwinSurvivor> oh, forgot the | :P
[04:41] <DarwinSurvivor> !outyet | arinov
[04:41] <centaur5> z3r0d3rp, I guess I'll have to try that out. I want to replicate desktop wallpaper and configurations in the new "system settings" control panel.
[04:42] <DarwinSurvivor> z3r0d3rp: oh, oops.
[04:42] <a_b0y> umm, isn't it April 26th today??
[04:42] <DarwinSurvivor> a_b0y: yes, but they didn't say it would be release in the morning now did they? :P
[04:42] <z3r0d3rp> there is also gconf and gconfd
[04:42] <joemppe> April 26th what timezone? :P
[04:43] <kip> Can not get sun java to install following the directions on https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Java      http://paste.ubuntu.com/946775/
[04:43] <a_b0y> when is the Lunbuntu 12.04 going to be released today too?
[04:43] <MaskilPDX> I know people are already asking.... Can I get 12.04 yet?
[04:43] <gokulakrishna> !isitout
[04:43] <z3r0d3rp> I just hope unified menus are still there because using HUD for certain programs is going to suck
[04:43] <thesheff17> kip, due to oracle java won't be available anymore
[04:43] <centaur5> z3r0d3rp, Right, i copied gconf and gnome2 as those were the directories that used to accomplish my setting configurations now those directories are apparently outdated.
[04:44] <z3r0d3rp> try .config also
[04:44] <thesheff17> you can use openjdk
[04:44] <kip> Then they need to change the web page on how to get it.
[04:44] <thesheff17> or download java manually
[04:44] <thesheff17> yea I know
[04:44] <thesheff17> tons of places are like this
[04:45] <z3r0d3rp> I don't think I ever use java for anything
[04:45] <centaur5> z3r0d3rp, Okay, I'll .config now.  Thanks for the suggestion.
[04:45] <kip> The program I have needs sun java JRE 6. And the instructions on how to install it manually are broken.
[04:45] <z3r0d3rp> kip can't you get it in restricted extras
[04:45] <kip> They do not work.
[04:45] <thesheff17> just download from sun
[04:45] <z3r0d3rp> or is that removed?
[04:45] <DarwinSurvivor> kip: did you try openjdk from the repos?
[04:45] <thesheff17> or oracle now
[04:46] <kip> The instructions say Sun Java.
[04:46] <z3r0d3rp> kip try adding the mint repos
[04:46] <z3r0d3rp> I think mint still has it for 11.10
[04:46] <thesheff17> http://www.oracle.com/technetwork/java/javase/downloads/index.html
[04:46] <JaceAlvejetti> !isitout
[04:46] <thesheff17> lol
[04:47] <kip> The SW is a pain to install, and there are enough problems without introducing a different java.
[04:48] <kip> How do we change the documentation page to say the instructions do not work?
[04:48] <z3r0d3rp> http://www.oracle.com/technetwork/java/javase/downloads/jre-6u31-download-1501637.html
[04:48] <z3r0d3rp> this is java 6 broskie
[04:48] <graytron> Ubuntu homepage stopped responding
[04:49] <a_b0y> so is Lunbuntu 12.04 going to be released today too?
[04:49] <kip> But that does not install it in the right place or set up all of the links.
[04:49] <awisepilot> home page works fine
[04:49] <z3r0d3rp> the ubuntu package doesn't work for 6?
[04:49] <DarwinSurvivor> a_b0y: nobody in here knows that.
[04:50] <z3r0d3rp> nvm
[04:50] <kip> I followed the instructions from https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Java
[04:51] <kip> They do not work.
[04:52] <DarwinSurvivor> kip what didn't work? it wouldn't install, wouldn't run, what errors did you get?
[04:52] <DarwinSurvivor> kip openjdk should install fine.
[04:52] <z3r0d3rp> http://bit.ly/IFiNHJ
[04:53] <kip> DarwinSurvor http://paste.ubuntu.com/946775/
[04:53] <z3r0d3rp> kip http://bit.ly/IFiNHJ
[04:54] <awisepilot> Success 10.04LTS boots on the Dell 1950!  11.10 is buggy with a race condition on dual nic card machines.
[04:54] <kip> PPA did not work either. There was a download erroor twice.
[04:54] <awisepilot> I hope the bug is fixed in 12
[04:54] <DarwinSurvivor> kip have you tried openjdk? that is the recommended one to use since Oracle is F*$$($#ing up the other ones for linux users
[04:55] <kapsdd> how many hrs are remaining for Ubuntu 12.04 release?
[04:55] <Valtam> ...
[04:56] <kip> I have not tried it, because the author of the SW said to use Sun Java 6, and it is a PITA to install and get right, and I do not want another thing that could go wrong.
[04:56] <DarwinSurvivor> !outyet | kapsdd
[04:56] <Valtam> how many times do we have to hear that question today
[04:56] <z3r0d3rp> lol
[04:56] <z3r0d3rp> don't make me pull this irc over
[04:56] <DarwinSurvivor> kip, well ubuntu recommends openjdk, so give that a try
[04:57]  * flanagan testet
[04:58] <JaceAlvejetti> !isitout | DarwinSurvivor
[04:58] <joemppe> the sooner it's released the less you have to hear about it :D
[04:59] <a_b0y> ubuntu should make an actual smartphone O/S
[05:00] <DarwinSurvivor> a_b0y: you mean like this? http://www.ubuntu.com/devices/android
[05:01] <a_b0y> that just piggybacks off of android
[05:02] <DarwinSurvivor> a_b0y: the problem is hardware companies using locked down hardware and using binary blobs into android.
[05:02] <a_b0y> i don't trust google with my privacy and especially the remote access they have on all android phones
[05:02] <Nach0z> just found a typo on that page >_>
[05:03] <DarwinSurvivor> and canonical has clearly stated that they are NOT interrested in handling hardware, they will just certify it as "works"
[05:03] <DarwinSurvivor> a_b0y: the n900 runs debian with apt-get and everything, you can get them used on ebay for pretty cheap
[05:03] <awisepilot> DarwinSurvivor:  Finally got Ubuntu to run on Dell 1950 server and boot.  How do you config su passwd
[05:04] <a_b0y> yeah i saw some youtube videos of people installing the standard ubuntu o/s on their phones lol
[05:04] <DarwinSurvivor> awisepilot: you shouldn't need to have a password set, but if you REALLY do, "sudo passwd"
[05:04] <awisepilot> why not set a psswd
[05:04] <Flannel> awisepilot: why set one?
[05:05] <a_b0y> smartphone hardware compatibility should be the same as PC compatibility
[05:05] <rinzler> sooo.. having multiple desktops, how would I be able to choose which one is represented during boot?
[05:05] <awisepilot> we are asking the same questions with two points of view.  What are the pros and cons?
[05:06] <install-wizard> Sudo -i is better tan a passwd
[05:06] <install-wizard> Feels like a more secure solution
[05:06] <Flannel> awisepilot: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RootSudo covers the pros and cons of each method
[05:06] <z3r0d3rp> I saw people dual booting android and BT5 R2 at Black Hat
[05:06] <a_b0y> i actually trust microsoft more than google, since organizations with lots of private data use microsoft
[05:07] <z3r0d3rp> didn't function as a phone in BT though
[05:07] <strata> is ubuntu nix?
[05:07] <awisepilot> Let me read Flannel, thatnks
[05:07] <awisepilot> Let me read Flannel, thanks
[05:07] <z3r0d3rp> Derpnix kernel 1.0
[05:08] <strata> err unix?
[05:09] <install-wizard> Yes
[05:10] <strata> cool thanks!
[05:12] <awisepilot> Does Ubuntu have a similar interface like SLES called Yast?
[05:13] <paulsomebody> Can anyone help me understand when the release of 12.04 will happen in terms of hours?
[05:14] <a_b0y> 1am est
[05:14] <a_b0y> maybe :P
[05:14] <install-wizard> "Soon"
[05:14] <xangua> !isitout | paulsomebody
[05:15] <tdmackey> awisepilot: apt
[05:15] <lykwydchykyn> awisepilot: not exactly; there's a settings panel, but it lacks all the server and sysadmin stuff YAST has.
[05:15]  * paulsomebody wonders why does everyone is so eager to provide pointless uninformative answers.
[05:15] <sacarlson> would vidalia be a good gui candidate to control tor in Lubuntu?   I got tor installed now just want a gui to play with it
[05:15] <paulsomebody> xangua: Thank you.
[05:15] <Flannel> paulsomebody: sometime after it becomes April 26th in Kiritimati (it already has) and sometime before it becomes April 27th in Midway.
[05:15] <dr-willis> there is no set time for release
[05:15] <paulsomebody> Flannel: Thank you, oh wizard of time zones.
[05:16] <Flannel> paulsomebody: That's as close as anyone other than those actually pushing the big red button can get you at this point.
[05:16] <yuri__> HELP! I went to change mawk out for gawk and muon uninstalled 24 files and now it won't install ANYTHING. :( I just get a error 127.
[05:19] <yuri__> Muon even uninstalled my bash shell. :(
[05:19] <awisepilot> Tried apt and its not install in the default 10.04 setup.   Type: sudo apt-get install openjdk-6-jdk and it complained and did not install apt.  Am I missing something?
[05:19] <rahrah> Impressive
[05:21] <lykwydchykyn> awisepilot: apt is an integral part of Ubuntu.  It's not possible for it not to be installed.
[05:23] <awisepilot> Interesting, I was asking about a compatible application like yast and I was given apt.
[05:24] <awisepilot> I guess apt is not the answer, what is?
[05:24] <lykwydchykyn> there is nothing analogous to yast in ubuntu
[05:24] <rahrah> If the command gave you an error post the error
[05:24] <install-wizard> Maybe somebody made a tool wich is like yast for ubuntu
[05:25] <yuri__> UGh. I just tried apt-get clean and purge and install for bash and nothing. Just a error 127 still. :(
[05:25] <lykwydchykyn> Probably the closest you can get to YAST in Ubuntu is webmin
[05:26] <awisepilot> cool, how do you run that
[05:26] <lykwydchykyn> It's a web-based thing; you download it from webmin's website and then connect in a browser
[05:27] <wylde> !webmin
[05:28] <lykwydchykyn> well, if you say so; works fine for me
[05:30] <shpeka> to all users using 11.10 : DO NOT start update trough the update manager, use only the terminal "apt-get update" otherwise your window frames will dissapear and PulseAudio will fail!
[05:30] <z3r0d3rp> wat
[05:31] <yuri__> Alright. Is there a file that I need to delete or something to get my aptitude back? I just lost half my system just because I tried to change out mawk for gawk. I'm tired of reinstalling entires OS's after all the time I spent reinstalling Windoze.
[05:31] <jswagner> that makes no sense
[05:31] <yuri__> It may not. But I was using Muon to swap them out and it decided to remove 24 packages for no reason. I don't even have bash anymore.
[05:31] <z3r0d3rp> reinstall mawk
[05:31] <yuri__> I can't. Error 127.
[05:32] <jswagner> opening Update Manager and clicking 'Update' is the same as typing 'apt-get update' at a terminal.
[05:32] <shpeka> remember 11.10 is not LTS so consider installing 11.04 for better support
[05:32] <jswagner> lol
[05:32] <z3r0d3rp> 11.04 isn't lts either
[05:32] <jswagner> shpeka what are you doing
[05:32] <L3top> shpeka: 10.04 is LTS
[05:32] <shpeka> yes it is
[05:32] <z3r0d3rp> nope.jpg
[05:32] <L3top> No, it is not.
[05:33] <jswagner> 10.04 and 12.04 are LTS.
[05:33] <xangua> shpeka: neither 11.04 is LTS
[05:33] <shpeka> my opinion is not to start an update
[05:33] <z3r0d3rp> ITT: people who can't package manager
[05:33] <z3r0d3rp> lol
[05:33] <shpeka> if u start update everything will be f*cked
[05:33] <yuri__> Dito. Last update I did I got an error 127 and had to reinstall Ubuntu.
[05:33] <z3r0d3rp> shepka you fail GTFO
[05:33] <xangua> !language | shpeka
[05:34] <yuri__> I can't install or uninstall ANYTHING. It's ALL error 127.
[05:34] <jswagner> i just ran update 15 minutes ago and it was fine
[05:34] <shpeka> also do not force restart when you are installing a .deb package
[05:34] <z3r0d3rp> people install broken PPA's then run update and break things
[05:35] <z3r0d3rp> protip: you screwed it up
[05:35] <iceroot_> jswagner: just for your info. Running update through update-manager and using "sudo apt-get update" are totally different things and the second will not update your system, just the status of the PACKAGES files
[05:35] <z3r0d3rp> lol iceroot_
[05:35] <iceroot_> z3r0d3rp: yes?
[05:35] <L3top> yuri__: do you have wget still?
[05:35] <z3r0d3rp> I think he meant upgrade
[05:36] <jswagner> iceroot_: well if we're getting catty about it, there is no update buttin on update manager.
[05:36] <yuri__> L3top: Lemme check.
[05:36] <jswagner> button
[05:36] <yuri__> L3top: Yes.
[05:36] <iceroot_> z3r0d3rp: upgrade is still different to update from update-manager
[05:36] <sacarlson> in Lubuntu 10.04 my screen is too small to view a complete gui panel,   what key sequence is used to drag to the bottom of the gui so I can hit the accept botton?
[05:36] <iceroot_> z3r0d3rp: dist-upgrade would do the same job
[05:36] <iceroot_> sacarlson: alt gr + mouse click
[05:36] <z3r0d3rp> he broke his distro with a bad ppa
[05:37] <L3top> yuri__: you could try wgetting the apt .deb and dpkg -i it.
[05:37] <z3r0d3rp> it would have broken with apt also
[05:37] <yuri__> L3top: Can you walk me through that real quick? I've used just about everything but wget over the years. :/
[05:37] <sacarlson> iceroot_: in Lubuntu I tried <alt> drag with left and right mouse and it don't work
[05:37] <pankaj> how to install gnome3 on 10.04?
[05:37] <jswagner> wget http://path-to-file
[05:37] <L3top> what version are you on?
[05:37] <iceroot_> sacarlson: alt gr not alt
[05:37] <hydrox24> yuri__: just run "wget URL"
[05:37] <z3r0d3rp> I installed a ppa in 10.04 to get vlc 2... replaced dpkg and totally broke everything
[05:37] <ActionParsnip> pankaj: its not compatible
[05:38] <yuri__> L3top: 11.10
[05:38] <hydrox24> yuri__: it will then download whatever file that url is, html, jpg, deb whatever.
[05:38] <sacarlson> iceroot_: what's alt gr?
[05:38] <somsip> yuri__: wget "URL" i#it is has a query string
[05:38] <z3r0d3rp> pankaj, 11.10 is pretty stable... no real reason to be on 10.04
[05:38] <iceroot_> sacarlson: is it called different in english? hm, the alt key right to the space bar
[05:38] <ActionParsnip> z3r0d3rp: its LTS and solid :)
[05:39] <yuri__> Alright. My problem is what is the url and path to apt.deb
[05:39] <z3r0d3rp> if you want LTS and solid use Debian
[05:39] <z3r0d3rp> 10.04 is just old
[05:39] <jswagner> two years is not old
[05:39] <z3r0d3rp> more than two years
[05:39] <ActionParsnip> z3r0d3rp: true, some folks like its maturity though
[05:40] <iceroot_> sacarlson: sorry it was the normal alt key and double click in the window, hold the mouse and drag it
[05:40] <shpeka> z3r0d3rp : 10.04 is LTS so consider using it , its better than 10.10
[05:40] <pankaj> ActionParsnip, how to install gnome3 on 10.04?
[05:40] <L3top> yuri__: looking it up now...
[05:40] <sacarlson> iceroot_: I just verified that <alt> drag right mouse on ubuntu does work as you say but it's not working in Lubuntu in the same way
[05:40] <iceroot_> pankaj: dont to that, it will break the system
[05:40] <yuri__> L3top: Thank you. :)
[05:40] <jswagner> will the 12.04 isos be the same as the daily-live/20120425 isos?
[05:41] <pankaj> iceroot_, why?
[05:41] <iceroot_> sacarlson: running fine here on lubuntu
[05:41] <ActionParsnip> pankaj: theres a PPA but it will more tahn likely brake your OS
[05:41] <iceroot_> sacarlson: alt + left double click then drag
[05:41] <sacarlson> iceroot_: oh maybe it's a virtualbox thing?
[05:41] <rubiks> hi, how are you doing guys? Does anyone know what time they are releasing ubuntu 12 final?
[05:41] <z3r0d3rp> I used BT5 R2 with a 3.2.6 kernel for a while... problem is that all the software is outdated and you have to break and troubleshoot everything to get it up to date
[05:41] <xangua> !isitout | rubiks
[05:42] <rubiks> oh thanks!
[05:42] <iceroot_> z3r0d3rp: if you want a rolling release, debian/ubuntu/mint/backtrack is not what you want
[05:42] <z3r0d3rp> I don't
[05:42] <z3r0d3rp> he said use 10.04
[05:42] <L3top> yuri__: 64 or i386?
[05:42] <z3r0d3rp> I did
[05:42] <ActionParsnip> z3r0d3rp: are you using backtrack for your daily stuff like emails?
[05:42] <z3r0d3rp> when it was new
[05:42] <Antunes> What time does the new version?
[05:42] <yuri__> L3top: 64.
[05:42] <ActionParsnip> Antunes: later
[05:43] <z3r0d3rp> I do pen testing for work so yes I had it installed as a main distro in my notebook
[05:43] <Antunes> s
[05:43] <pankaj> ActionParsnip, i cant install another os (11.10 ) as i dont have much space left and i have lots things already installed in 10.04. so isnt there any way to install gnome3 on 10.04
[05:43] <z3r0d3rp> but I also had it overhauled
[05:43] <yuri__> L3top: Is there an apt log somewhere to show what 24 packages were all removed? I looked up and it was already uninstalling and there was no cancel button. :(
[05:43] <pankaj> ActionParsnip, without breaking the os
[05:43] <ActionParsnip> pankaj: there is a PPA, your choice if you use it
[05:43] <iceroot_> yuri__: /var/log/apt/term.log
[05:43] <ActionParsnip> pankaj: no, its not compatible, as I said
[05:44] <L3top> yuri__: wget http://security.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/pool/main/a/apt/apt_0.8.16~exp5ubuntu13.2_amd64.deb
[05:44] <yuri__> L3top: I think I'm screwed. There's no var directory now.
[05:44] <L3top> yuri__: dpkg -i apt_0.8.16~exp5ubuntu13.2_amd64.deb
[05:44] <ActionParsnip> L3top: that'll need sudo ;)
[05:44] <L3top> yeah... you got a lotta chunk...
[05:44] <z3r0d3rp> yuri__, you should test before removing things
[05:45] <gametstr> how long before 12.04 LTS Final Freeze is out?
[05:45] <ActionParsnip> gametstr: soon
[05:45] <z3r0d3rp> or do it in terminal so that you can cancel
[05:45] <z3r0d3rp> I was going to remove openssl and update manually
[05:45] <killfoo_> !12.04
[05:45] <L3top> correct. ActionParsnip. that is one of my worst flaws giving advice, as I am so often in a root environment.
[05:45] <yuri__> *sigh* Since now that half my directory tree seems to be missing, any suggestions?
[05:45] <z3r0d3rp> but it would have ripped out 75% of the system
[05:46] <iceroot_> only one package update in the last 4 days. sounds we are on a good way :)
[05:46] <z3r0d3rp> package management is far from perfect
[05:46] <L3top> well... 1204 is coming out soon... that would be my suggestion. Sorry yuri__.
[05:46] <friskd> Hey all, why can't i do one one line   : ssh www.mysite.com "sudo su -l username"
[05:46] <friskd> when ever i try do that it just hanges
[05:46] <friskd> but if i ssh in, and then run that command it works fine
[05:46] <z3r0d3rp> lol that is not how it works
[05:46] <friskd> username of course being a user on the system
[05:47] <iceroot_> friskd: ssh foo@bar 'command'
[05:47] <pankaj> ssh user@ip
[05:47] <ActionParsnip> friskd: why not just use:  ssh username@www.mysite.com
[05:47] <shpeka> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lgXJbJeRxHo
[05:47] <friskd> welli can do ssh www.mystie.com because my local user is the same as the remote server name
[05:48] <ActionParsnip> friskd: so why the -l thing?
[05:48] <friskd> so yes i could do ssh myuser@www.mysite.com "sudo su -l someotherusername"
[05:48] <iceroot_> friskd: ssh different-user-name@host
[05:48] <z3r0d3rp> ^
[05:48] <ActionParsnip> friskd: ssh someotherusername@www.mysite.com
[05:48] <friskd> I have a user   lets call it    company
[05:48] <friskd> so any user can ssh in as them selves
[05:48] <friskd> then sudo su -l company
[05:48] <ActionParsnip> friskd: ssh company@www.mysite.com
[05:49] <Steventc> Hello
[05:49] <iceroot_> friskd: ssh company@host
[05:49] <friskd> and then they have access to run and edit a bunch of scripts in /home/company
[05:49] <ripthejacker> someone help me please
[05:49] <ActionParsnip> friskd: yes, as you would be logging in as company
[05:49] <z3r0d3rp> why wouldn't you establish a session first?
[05:49] <ripthejacker> i am getting this message when i try to connect to internet and it becomes slow
[05:49] <ripthejacker> CCP terminated by peer (No compression negotiated^@)
[05:49] <ripthejacker> Compression disabled by peer.
[05:49] <yuri__> L3top: How much longer until 1204?
[05:50] <ActionParsnip> ripthejacker: what is the output of:  lsb_release -sc
[05:50] <friskd> i suppose i could do that, and then just all all my engineers ssh keys into the company   authorized_keys file
[05:50] <friskd> I was trying to keep it that anyone that had sudo could do it
[05:50] <L3top> Hours at this point I think?
[05:50] <L3top> No telling exactly yuri__
[05:50] <yuri__> And btw, whatever went wrong in muon, it took all kinds of stuff. I dunno if I could have rebooted. lsb-core, alien, ubuntu-standard, bsd-mailx, this is a scary glitch. :(
[05:50] <nishttal2> hi guys.. i had mounted a FTP folder using the gui at my work machine.. can someone tell me how i can access it from the terminal?
[05:51] <iceroot_> friskd: EVERYONE can use sudo?
[05:51] <z3r0d3rp> friskd, that sounds very insecure
[05:51] <friskd> no
[05:51] <nishttal2> i mean where are the FTP folders mounted?
[05:51] <friskd> so i have 3 engineers
[05:51] <friskd> that i have as admins with sudo access
[05:51] <friskd> so those three guys can deploy
[05:51] <friskd> i have bash script that can be run locally  which should connect to the server, sudo su -l company
[05:52] <z3r0d3rp> ?
[05:52] <friskd> inside of the /home/company folder i have a few scripts taht i want my script to run
[05:52] <iceroot_> friskd: ssh company@host that is the solution
[05:52] <ripthejacker> ActionParsnip, it says oneiric
[05:52] <ActionParsnip> friskd: then put them in the admin group and they will be able to use sudo
[05:52] <iceroot_> friskd: upload your public key if you dont want to type passwords
[05:52] <ActionParsnip> ripthejacker: cool, how do you connect to the web?
[05:52] <friskd> iceroot_: yea, that would require i add all my engineers ssh keys into the comapny authorized_keys file
[05:52] <ripthejacker> rp-pppoe
[05:52] <iceroot_> friskd: they do it, not you
[05:53] <ripthejacker> ActionParsnip, rp-pppoe
[05:53] <yuri__> *SCREAMS* I'm still getting error 127 even after reinstalling apt. :(
[05:53] <iceroot_> friskd: if someone has ssh access to your system he can put his public key on it
[05:53] <ActionParsnip> ripthejacker: i've no experience there, sorry. Maybe others can assist
[05:53] <nishttal2> can someone tell where the FTP folders are mounted?
[05:53] <friskd> thats true.
[05:53] <z3r0d3rp> yuri_ it is faster to do a fresh install than repair a porked ont
[05:53] <friskd> Ok let me do it that way.
[05:53] <z3r0d3rp> one*
[05:53] <friskd> it will work nicely
[05:53] <friskd> thanks guys.
[05:53] <ActionParsnip> nishttal2: ~/.gvfs
[05:53] <FloodBot1> friskd: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[05:54] <ripthejacker> someone please help me
[05:54] <yuri__> I'm sorry for being so stupid. It's been years since I've used Linux. Redhat 2.4 back in '98 was the last time I used it. Is there a way to reinstall Linux without losing anything but getting rid of the bugs in the current install?
[05:54] <ripthejacker> CCP terminated by peer (No compression negotiated^@)
[05:54] <ripthejacker> Compression disabled by peer.
[05:54] <Kalidarn> Ubuntu 12.04 comes out today ;)
[05:55] <rinzler> sooo.. having multiple desktops, how would I be able to choose which one is represented during boot?
[05:55] <yuri__> And how do I get rid of mawk and put gawk in it's place without killing my install again?
[05:55] <nishttal2> ActionParsnip, perfect.. thanks!
[05:55] <fidel_> ahoi
[05:55] <ActionParsnip> yuri__: I'd reinstall then restore user data from backup
[05:55] <iceroot_> yuri__: if you have an extra home partition its easy to reinstall
[05:55] <yuri__> *sigh*
[05:55] <L3top> yuri__: You can move /home to another partition.
[05:55] <Kalidarn> yuri__: yes, backup as you would with any other system and reinstall, i usually put in a livecd
[05:55] <yuri__> True. I forgot about that.
[05:56] <Kalidarn> and use tar cjvpf home.tar home/
[05:56] <Kalidarn> (p is important to preserve permissions)
[05:56] <Kalidarn> though depending on how old the install is you're upgrading it might be best to reconfigure everything
[05:56] <yuri__> I hope gparted still works. I have to make a new partition big enough on my other hd for this.
[05:57] <yuri__> *sigh* I'm even going to have to backup my kernel. Yech. This stinks.
[05:57] <iceroot_> yuri__: why your kernel?
[05:57] <nishttal2> ActionParsnip, this after you told me to install dnsmasq
[05:57] <ThePendulum> Is there a way to 'close' Thunderbird in Ubuntu 12.04, yet still get notifications?
[05:57] <nishttal2> i did but after installation when i tried to run it.. it said port already in use!
[05:57] <yuri__> I've been sloooowly customizing the heck out of it over the last week. Just upgraded to 3.3.2 considering 3.4 soon.
[05:57] <nishttal2> ActionParsnip, ^^^
[05:58] <ActionParsnip> nishttal2: dnsmasq can make your web faster
[05:58] <iceroot_> yuri__: ah ok
[05:58] <yuri__> Now I'm waiting for someone to comment on how I can not know how to reinstall linux but know how to compile the kernel from scratch. ;)
[05:58] <iceroot_> yuri__: :)
[05:59] <rinzler> ActionParsnip: what is dnsmasq? ubottu doesn't know anything about it...
[05:59] <yuri__> It seems gparted disappeared with this nightmare as well. I may just have to leave the computer on until 1204 comes out and pray the power doesn't go out between now and then. ;)
[05:59] <nishttal2> ActionParsnip.. here is what I am trying to do... my work machine has to use an internal DNS (192.168.42.50) to resolve internal servers (say bart) and i need 8.8.8.8 to access sites like GMAIL.. how can i setup something so its seamless...
[05:59] <iceroot_> yuri__: what is the initial issue?
[05:59] <L3top> gparted will work from  livecd if it isn't yuri__
[06:00] <nishttal2> ActionParsnip, if the request for gmail goes to the internal DNS first if would block/reject it
[06:00] <yuri__> iceroot: Initial issue is I tried to replace mawk with gawk and 24 essentials got ripped out from under me and now I have no OS. Just what's in RAM. BASH, original ubuntu kernel, core stuff. Poof. :(
[06:00] <ripthejacker> CCP terminated by peer (No compression negotiated^@)
[06:00] <ripthejacker> Compression disabled by peer.
[06:00] <ripthejacker> i am getting this error message please help
[06:00] <nishttal2> ActionParsnip, i tried to setup both as DNS (space separated) but it only uses the 1st one listed in the list
[06:01] <iceroot_> yuri__: no working apt/dpkg?
[06:01] <yuri__> Meh ****. error 127. Installed a new aptitude and still get 127.
[06:02] <uBUxUBu> has 12.04 been released yet?
[06:02] <iceroot_> yuri__: any output of "dpkg --version"?
[06:02] <iceroot_> uBUxUBu: no
[06:02] <a_b0y> omg omgomg omg mgoogm
[06:02] <ActionParsnip> nishttal2: use commas to seperate
[06:02] <a_b0y> nevermind, i thought it was finally released :P
[06:03] <ActionParsnip> nishttal2: you also need to tell dnsmasq to listen on 127.0.0.1
[06:03] <yuri__> My computer is now possessed. I can't use more than one option with tar. Tells me to use a label or something really creepy. :( I was going to tar cjvpf home.tar home/.
[06:03] <nishttal2> ActionParsnip, can i not do it without dnsmasq.. as it didnt run..  it said port already in use
[06:03] <iceroot_> yuri__: any output of "dpkg --version"?
[06:04] <Kalidarn> yuri__: might be worth waiting a few hours
[06:04] <yuri__> Yeah. Just a sec. dpkg works.
[06:04] <Kalidarn> ubuntu 12.04 LTS is about to be released any hour now
[06:04] <iceroot_> nishttal2: put gmail in /etc/hosts  that will overwrite dns-server
[06:04] <nishttal2> iceroot_, how come Xubuntu 12.04 is released.. i thought they followed the main Ubuntu release schedule
[06:04] <yuri__> 1.16.0.3 (amd64)
[06:04] <iceroot_> nishttal2: its not released
[06:04] <ActionParsnip> nishttal2: tried a reboot?
[06:04] <Kalidarn> what time zone does https://wiki.ubuntu.com/PrecisePangolin/ReleaseSchedule follow
[06:05] <iceroot_> yuri__: fine, any outpout of "dpkg -l | grep -v ^ii | grep -v ^rc"?
[06:05] <Kalidarn> i assume it will be released at 12:00 whatever timezone they work in, i assumed it was UTC
[06:05] <iceroot_> !paste | yuri__
[06:05] <nishttal2> iceroot_, i was using gmail as an example.. but there are many other sites.. is there no seamless way for the system to try both dns servers
[06:05] <nishttal2> ActionParsnip, actually no.. i didnt reboot
[06:05] <uBUxUBu> its 705pm in samoa april 26?
[06:05] <pengw> hi all
[06:05] <nishttal2> iceroot_, it says Download 12.04 (and doesnt say beta).. this morning it was showing a countdown (1 to go)
[06:06] <joemppe> once 12.04 does get out, do you reckon there will be enough server capacity to download the cd image without wanting to gouge my eyes out :D
[06:06] <pengw> is that 12.04  out ?
[06:06] <yuri__> It's empty. Nothing to be installed or removed or broken.
[06:06] <ActionParsnip> nishttal2: probably find it's ok after that, remember to edit /etc/dnsmasq.conf so that it is listening to loacalhost
[06:06] <pengw> i want to install 12.04
[06:06] <yuri__> I doubt that there will be enough bandwidth to handle all of us.
[06:06] <GhostWolf> ubuntu website is beta2!
[06:06] <ActionParsnip> pengw: you'll see the motd change when it is
[06:06] <pengw> everyone says it is great
[06:06] <uBUxUBu> 12.04 is still in final beta
[06:07] <iceroot_> nishttal2: sorry i can just say "man resolv.conf" never used something like you want
[06:07] <nishttal2> iceroot_, ok np.. thanks
[06:07] <yuri__> SOrry. I found this in the last output from dpkg: 4.13a.dfsg.1-8ubuntu1
[06:08] <nishttal2> iceroot_, any idea as to when 12.04 would be released.. it was supposed to be today rt?
[06:08] <nishttal2> ActionParsnip, ok thanks.. will try in the morning
[06:08] <iceroot_> nishttal2: no dont know, sometime today
[06:08] <pengw> i am waiting it for a long time .
[06:08] <tsimpson> nishttal2: sometime today, whenever it's considered "ready" by the release manager
[06:08] <nishttal2> iceroot_, ok great
[06:09] <nishttal2> tsimpson, cant wait.. hopefull compiz would work without glitches on 12.04
[06:09] <pengw> today is a really bad for me i have been over changed for repairing my car.
[06:09] <nishttal2> tsimpson, i missed my desktop cube and wobbly windows on 11.10
[06:11] <Jordan_U> !ot | pengw
[06:12] <GhostWolf> i prefer using gnome classic
[06:13] <GhostWolf> unity is not suit for me
[06:13] <bluescreen> is it easy to switch from unity to classic?
[06:13] <GhostWolf> install gnome shell
[06:13] <Jordan_U> !notunity | bluescreen
[06:13] <stefan_> bluescreen: sudo apt-get install gnome-panel
[06:13] <sebsebseb> hi
[06:14] <user1> ubuntu 12.04 released or not...
[06:15] <pankaj_sharma> why so eager?
[06:15] <iceroot_> what torrent-cli-client is worth using? need something for the 12.04 isos. great would be something ncurse-based
[06:15] <ActionParsnip> bluescreen: http://www.omgubuntu.co.uk/2012/03/gnome-classic-in-ubuntu-12-04-its-like-nothing-ever-changed/
[06:15] <ActionParsnip> user1: no it's not out yet
[06:15] <ActionParsnip> user1: when the motd says its out, it's out
[06:16] <GhostWolf> deluge
[06:16] <yuri__> Ummm... I'm trying to tar my home directory as suggested earlier and everything is coming out encrypted. Will this be a problem when I go to restore it on a fresh install?
[06:16] <z3r0d3rp> iceroot_, try deluge
[06:16] <ActionParsnip> iceroot_: rtorrent
[06:16] <anupadhikari_> When is ubuntu 12.04 releasing?
[06:16] <z3r0d3rp> deluge > rtorrent
[06:17] <anupadhikari_> coming out of the beta?
[06:17] <uBUxUBu> 4-26-12
[06:17] <ActionParsnip> z3r0d3rp: does deluge have an ncurses UI?
[06:17] <anupadhikari_> uBUxUBu, time?
[06:17] <iceroot_> z3r0d3rp: thanks, deluge would pull to much for me
[06:17] <iceroot_> ActionParsnip: thx
[06:17] <Valtam> need a bot that has set triggers to people asking for release time
[06:17] <uBUxUBu> not sure
[06:17] <iceroot_> z3r0d3rp: some x11 libs and so on...
[06:17] <dr_willis> i remember why i avoid this channel on release day now....   ;)
[06:18] <z3r0d3rp> lol are you running on a 386?
[06:18] <colonelqubit> Valtam: They could put a note about it on ubuntu.com, too...
[06:18] <iceroot_> dr_willis: is it out now? :)
[06:18] <ActionParsnip> z3r0d3rp: hence rtorrent, not deluge. So in this situation due to requirements rtorrent > deluge
[06:18] <z3r0d3rp> I suppose
[06:18] <dr_willis> iceroot_:  its been delayed till the 32nd.
[06:18] <anupadhikari_> colonelqubit, Valtam ya no data on ubuntu.com, they could have a countdown or something
[06:18] <iceroot_> z3r0d3rp: headless debian server and there i dont want 100 additional packsges
[06:19] <iceroot_> dr_willis: :)
[06:19] <z3r0d3rp> iceroot_, it has a cli client
[06:19] <Valtam> colonelqubit]$ they don't do that so they can avoid hammering at one point in time
[06:19] <ActionParsnip> iceroot_: or use transmission cli, enable the web UI and control it from another PC using transgui
[06:19] <jalal> hi guys i needed helpp
[06:19] <colonelqubit> Valtam: That makes absolutely no sense
[06:19] <iceroot_> ActionParsnip: so its running as a daemon?
[06:19] <colonelqubit> Valtam: Either way, people are going to hammer on it
[06:19] <tsimpson> Valtam, anupadhikari_: a countdown would require a fixed time when release is happening, that fixed time doesn't exist so there can be no count down
[06:19] <Valtam> it wuld be a good idea for the torrent release
[06:19] <ActionParsnip> iceroot_: yeah there is transmission-cli or similar
[06:19] <z3r0d3rp> deluge is about ten times fasten than rtorrent or transmission also supports plugins
[06:19] <jalal> on my browser or any programe
[06:20] <jalal> minimize ,maximize and close button not showing
[06:20] <iceroot_> z3r0d3rp: i only need it for -23 days to provide the ubuntu torrents
[06:20] <colonelqubit> One easy way to avoid hammering the release servers is for them to just push it out over bittorrent 30 minutes before any other protocol
[06:20] <anupadhikari_> tsimpson, so there is no fix time, why?
[06:20] <z3r0d3rp> if you are seeding then use utorrent server derp
[06:20] <jalal> plzz helppppppppppppppppppppppppppppppppp
[06:20] <dr_willis> anupadhikari_:  because they don't know.
[06:21] <tsimpson> anupadhikari_: because things happen on the day that can't be predicted, the release team have a general idea, but nothing is in stone
[06:21] <z3r0d3rp> I haven't used utorrent server but that is what it was designed for/to do
[06:21] <dr_willis> jalal:  the title bar showing at all?
[06:21] <jalal> no
[06:21] <z3r0d3rp> likewise the utorrent protocol is faster and more efficient on a network
[06:21] <anupadhikari_> dr_willis, I am seriously, really confused,no joking, what are you saying, they don't know?
[06:21] <jalal> yes title showing
[06:21] <dr_willis> jalal:  compiz crashed sounds like
[06:22] <iceroot_> z3r0d3rp: good info, i will have a look at it later, now i am running rtorrent in screen, it has ncurses, so its ok for my needs
[06:22] <Optichip> !release
[06:22] <jalal> i install ubuntu tweak
[06:22] <jalal> so what is solution for that?
[06:22] <z3r0d3rp> compiz --replace
[06:22] <jalal> my cursor coming in x symbol
[06:22] <dr_willis> anupadhikari_:  they  dont know when it will get updated to all the servers.. so they dont know an exact time when they will all be ready to 'go'
[06:22] <z3r0d3rp> bad drivers could be
[06:23] <anupadhikari_> dr_willis, oh, thanks for the insight
[06:23] <jalal> any solution?
[06:23] <z3r0d3rp> nvidia card?
[06:23] <dr_willis> anupadhikari_:  if its that critical for you.. install the dailyy build then update/upgrade...
[06:23] <jalal> yes
[06:23] <GhostWolf> ubuntu tweak 0.7.0 released
[06:23] <z3r0d3rp> if so manually install proprietary drivers
[06:23] <jalal> i have nvdia
[06:23] <z3r0d3rp> do lspci -vv and find out what your card is
[06:24] <z3r0d3rp> download the driver
[06:24] <z3r0d3rp> drop to command line
[06:24] <jalal> ok wait
[06:24] <dr_willis> jalal:  you could try making a new user and seeing if the issue exists for them also
[06:24] <z3r0d3rp> stop gdm/lightdm
[06:24] <z3r0d3rp> then run the script
[06:24] <fuzik> Hello People !
[06:24] <Hoyt> hi , does daily-build has mirrors other than http://cdimage.ubuntu.com ?
[06:24] <jalal> i open my broswer now i cant go back or open terminal
[06:25] <jalal> now i neeed too restart
[06:25] <z3r0d3rp> try ctrl f1  then type compiz --replace then ctrl f7
[06:25] <jalal> once i open any application i cant close it
[06:25] <Hoyt> because you don't have a WM
[06:25] <dr_willis> jalal:  alt-ctrl-f1 login , use sudo service lightdm restart
[06:25] <fuzik> Read FAQ, read installation FAQ, but not find that i need. I want install ubuntu-server-i386.iso from USB flash can you help me to find documentation how to do it ?
[06:25] <jalal> shortcut no working
[06:25] <fuzik> my currect system Debian 5.0
[06:25] <z3r0d3rp> jalal,  try alt f2 then type compiz --replace
[06:26] <z3r0d3rp> either way you should run guake so that you always have a terminal one keystroke away
[06:27] <supreeth> Hello!
[06:27] <supreeth> Any Linux gurus out here?
[06:27] <yuri__> Does anyone have a suggested partitioning scheme for a 40gb hard drive? Everytime I go to install ubuntu it gives me / and a swap partition.
[06:28] <Optichip> yuri__: what more do you need?
[06:28] <supreeth> Can anyone give me/tell me where to find these values for Ubuntu 10.04 kernel 2.6.32-33-generic?
[06:28] <z3r0d3rp> yuri you might consider making a data partition
[06:28] <Hoyt> supreeth: uname -r ?
[06:28] <yuri__> Well, I know what the convenience partitions are, by name, but not by size.
[06:28] <pengw> 512 mb for swap 10 gb for / 10 for /home 20gb for /windows
[06:28] <supreeth> comm field, which contains the name of the process
[06:28] <z3r0d3rp> 20 gigs is not enough for windows
[06:29] <z3r0d3rp> not even close
[06:29] <supreeth> I'm on a different system now. Ubuntu 11.04
[06:29] <Hoyt> supreeth: what you looking for ?
[06:29] <DarwinSurvivor> pengw: i'd go with more than 1/2GB of swap
[06:29] <z3r0d3rp> depeds on ram
[06:29] <Hoyt> I don't even use a swap , I have 4g memory
[06:29] <supreeth> I'm interested in the 'comm field, which contains the name of the process' for Ubuntu 10.04 kernel 2.6.32-33-generic
[06:29] <holmescn> Nick to be here. I have a removable harddisk. All partations are NTFS. My problem is one of the partitions won't automount. I have googled, but have no idea.
[06:29] <z3r0d3rp> if you have 2.5 gigs and up you don't need a swap part except for laptop hibernation / video editing
[06:29] <yuri__> Argh. I think it's time for me to format my old windows hard drive. 40gb just isn't enough. I'm at 20gb for my home directory already.
[06:29] <Optichip> yuri__: with a 40g drive I'm guessing SSD /swap / should be all you need, hopefully you have a second drive that you can use for your /home partition after install.
[06:30] <dr_willis> holmescn: mount by hand. see if any errors show up
[06:30] <Raydiation> i was wondering if there are any debs for intellij idea
[06:30] <supreeth> Hoyt: I'm interested in the 'comm field, which contains the name of the process' for Ubuntu 10.04 kernel 2.6.32-33-generic
[06:30] <yuri__> *sigh* What would be the recommendations for a 500gb hard drive? I wasn't ready to drop windows when I first installed linux.
[06:30] <holmescn> dr_willis: yes, it works, but not convinient.
[06:30] <fuzik> My question can be forgeted .. thanks.
[06:30] <Hoyt> supreeth: I don't get it , what's the *'comm* field ?
[06:30] <DarwinSurvivor> pengw: because with over 4GB of ram, the only real use for swap is hibernation, in which case you need at least as much swap as ram
[06:30] <Raydiation> the community edition (open source, apl) is not in the official repos
[06:31] <z3r0d3rp> yuri__, I have my kde system on my old box on a 20 gig drive but use part of my 80 gig Windows drive to store movies and stuff
[06:31] <z3r0d3rp> to share between OS's
[06:31] <supreeth> It's basically for a process tracker on the Simics simulator.
[06:31] <Hoyt> supreeth: top ?
[06:31] <supreeth> Hoyt: It's basically for a process tracker on the Simics simulator.
[06:31] <yuri__> And for those who are confused by myhatred of Windows at the moment, long story short: MS gave me a bunk keycode and it gave me 30 days to buy a new one, no money and MS won't replace the keycode.
[06:31] <z3r0d3rp> same with my laptop... I have my torrent client configed to write to my windows part
[06:31] <dr_willis> holmescn:  i just make fstab entries for mine
[06:31] <Optichip> yuri__: you could use the 500g as what it is now, without formatting, you could put your /home partition onto it fstab just needs to know where to mount and what type of filesystem.
[06:32] <yuri__> NTFS.
[06:32] <yuri__> Win7.
[06:32] <z3r0d3rp> keep it
[06:32] <z3r0d3rp> just mount the drive in fstab
[06:32] <z3r0d3rp> and use it for storage
[06:32] <z3r0d3rp> keep windows on it
[06:32] <esak> why ubuntu 12.04 is not ready for download ?
[06:32] <Hoyt> just try the daily build , it's almost the same
[06:33] <yuri__> Win7 no more work. Don't need Windows for nothing now.
[06:33] <DarwinSurvivor> !outyet esak
[06:33] <DarwinSurvivor> !outyet | esak
[06:33] <Optichip> yuri__: then use it as your /home
[06:33] <z3r0d3rp> then just reinstall and use the big drive
[06:33] <Optichip> yuri__: format it ext4 and add it to your fstab
[06:33] <z3r0d3rp> or use parted and copy the partition
[06:34] <supreeth> Hoyt: I'm basically tring to fill the fields from: http://www.cs.sfu.ca/~fedorova/Tech/simics-guides-3.0.26/simics-reference-manual-public-all/topic148.html                        for 2.6.32-33-generic
[06:34] <yuri__> Yeah. I got wine for the /FEW/ win programs I'm still using. I'll just copy my users directory to another partition and then format win.
[06:34] <z3r0d3rp> you can use gparted to copy your system to the larger drive
[06:34] <jalal> i am back,system need to restart
[06:34] <z3r0d3rp> then there is one command to make your system see all the new space
[06:34] <jalal> ok i issue command compiz--replace
[06:34] <z3r0d3rp> I can't remember what it is off the top of my head
[06:35] <jalal> my all system come back to normal
[06:35] <jalal> now what i do so i future it will not be like that?
[06:35] <z3r0d3rp> jalal install compiz fusion icon
[06:35] <jalal> command?
[06:35] <Optichip> setkeh!
[06:35] <z3r0d3rp> that way you can use it to reset compiz from the gui
[06:35] <yuri__> Woops. I guess I'll have to copy just my documents from win. ;) full users folder for me was over 100 GB. Yikes. Stupid Windows.
[06:35] <setkeh> Optichip: *******
[06:35] <z3r0d3rp> sudo apt-get install fusion-icon
[06:35] <jalal> my system is back now
[06:35] <pozzz> bluefish editor: When I reopen bluefish can I have the tabs I was working on last time open automatically? (Quanta plus has it)
[06:35] <Optichip> setkeh when's ubuntu release?!?
[06:35] <yuri__> *runs and hides* 328.1 GB for my old win docs. ;)
[06:35] <setkeh> When will Ubunut be ready for DL
[06:36] <dr_willis> yuri__: a lot of that may be temp files
[06:36] <setkeh> Optichip: When it Ready :}
[06:36] <jalal> installing icons brother
[06:36] <Optichip> Is Arch better then Ubuntu?
[06:36] <pozzz> bluefish: Save all button on toolbar. Possible?
[06:36] <jalal> please give me perfect solution
[06:36] <dr_willis> Optichip:  you decide that for yourself
[06:36] <Hoyt> Optichip: arch has poor scripts than gentoo , that's all I know
[06:36] <tsimpson> Optichip: asking a question like that in #ubuntu isn't really a good idea
[06:36] <setkeh> Optichip: hahahaha
[06:36] <z3r0d3rp> lol yuri... even after removing any movies and media... my windows 7 system with applications and games is 200 gigs
[06:36] <jalal> because i cannot format my pc
[06:36] <yuri__> Just double-checked. No temp files. No windows junk. It's all me. What did I download in those 30 days? :(
[06:37] <pengw> eclipse or codeblock geany for C programming which one is you choice ?
[06:37] <setkeh> tsimpson: why no you butt hurt :P
[06:37] <z3r0d3rp> jalal you have something that is crashing compiz
[06:37] <Hoyt> I always go for VIM
[06:37] <z3r0d3rp> you can restart it via alt f2 and compiz --replace
[06:37] <jalal> yah i gave compiz --replace then evrything back to normal
[06:37] <z3r0d3rp> you should install guake anyway
[06:38] <tsimpson> setkeh: excuse me?
[06:38] <z3r0d3rp> so that you can just hit f12 for a terminal
[06:38] <jalal> command?sorry i am new to linux
[06:38] <setkeh> tsimpson: you excused what you do fart or somthing
[06:38] <z3r0d3rp> sudo apt-get install guke
[06:38] <z3r0d3rp> guake*
[06:38] <Raydiation> pengw: kdevelop
[06:39] <jalal> i still need to install compiz icons?
[06:39] <tsimpson> setkeh: if you want to start making sense now, that would be great
[06:39] <z3r0d3rp> the compiz icon sits in your panel and lets you restart it if it messes up
[06:39] <stripe> how do I run ubuntu as root?
[06:39] <z3r0d3rp> sudo su
[06:39] <GhostWolf> sudo
[06:39] <jalal> apt-get install guake E: Could not get lock /var/lib/dpkg/lock - open (11: Resource temporarily unavailable) E: Unable to lock the administration directory (/var/lib/dpkg/), is another process using it?
[06:39] <pengw> i am in Gnome KDE is little bit slower
[06:39] <setkeh> tsimpson: you asked me to excuse you i excused you then asked if it was because you farted is all :D
[06:39] <Lint> stripe, set a password for root
[06:40] <stripe> thanks
[06:40] <z3r0d3rp> jalal you have to close synaptic
[06:40] <z3r0d3rp> or just download it from synaptic
[06:40] <jalal> synaptic is closed brother
[06:40] <tsimpson> setkeh: no, I was referring to your message "<setkeh> tsimpson: why no you butt hurt :P"
[06:40] <jalal> it coz dpkg locked
[06:40] <dr_willis> stripe:  what are you trying to acomplish exactly
[06:40] <z3r0d3rp> you have either updates, software center or another terminal using it
[06:41] <stefan_> than the automatic script to update your repos is running
[06:41] <stefan_> just wait a minute
[06:41] <jalal> how to unlock var/dpkg?
[06:41] <esak> what is it ubuntu alternate ?
[06:41] <dr_willis> !fixapt
[06:41] <z3r0d3rp> sudo reboot
[06:41] <hid3> Is it out?!
[06:41] <ActionParsnip> !aptfix
[06:41] <dr_willis> hid3:  no
[06:41] <setkeh> tsimpson: why would the question "Is arch better than ubuntu" a bad idea are you but hurt thgat arch is better than ubuntu ??
[06:42] <stripe> just for running occasional backup tasks, so I will have authority to write to another hard drive in my machine
[06:42] <z3r0d3rp> arch = most overrated distro
[06:42] <ActionParsnip> Hid3: when you see the motd change, its out
[06:42] <setkeh> z3r0d3rp: another one who is butthurt :P
[06:42] <dr_willis> stripe:  use sudo as needed for root level tasks
[06:42] <tsimpson> setkeh: because this is a technical support channel for Ubuntu, obviously, and I'd ask you to try and stay on that topic from now on
[06:42] <z3r0d3rp> real men run gentoo
[06:42] <jalal> ubuntu is best
[06:42] <z3r0d3rp> you can keep your butthurt
[06:43] <Optichip> Oh I thought I was in the overrated distro channel.
[06:43] <jalal> for ubuntoo root
[06:43] <LeV91> Slackware pwns
[06:43] <jalal> change your pass then swicth too other account
[06:43] <jalal> there login as root
[06:43] <ActionParsnip> z3r0d3rp: from stage 1 of course ;-)
[06:43] <z3r0d3rp> arch is so that n00bs can spend 3 hours installing a system and think they are Stallman
[06:44] <setkeh> tsimpson: what topic /topic "When will ubuntu 12.04 be available for download" some major topic we got goin on here
[06:44] <jonathan1104> LFS ftw
[06:44] <jalal> hahhaha nice said z3r0d
[06:44] <stripe> dr willis thanks but it is aukwaqrd copying files from the terminal, I was thinking if I did it graphicaly it would be more time effective
[06:44] <ActionParsnip> jalal: or run:   sudo -i    no need for messing around
[06:44] <jalal> ok boss
[06:44] <dr_willis> stripe:  you can run gui file managers as root...  or set up cron jobs.. it depends on the details of whatgg you are doing
[06:45] <jalal> i am istall compiz icon
[06:45] <ServerCrash> hi how can i remove delete rights from user (globally), he should not be able to delete any file, even files created by himself
[06:45] <jalal> i instll ubuntu tweak last night so i guess because of that ..problem arrieved
[06:45] <dr_willis> ServerCrash:  what sort of work is  the user supposed to be able to do  then?
[06:46] <ActionParsnip> jalal: what proble
[06:46] <dr_willis> jalal:  most likely some tweak you did.. not the tool itself..
[06:46] <esak> jalal what is ubuntu alternate ?
[06:46] <ServerCrash> dr_willis, just create files, copy files, move files
[06:46] <stripe> dr willis never thought of that, running the file manager from the terminal , will try it. thanks
[06:46] <jalal> problem not people brother
[06:46] <z3r0d3rp> jalal, 10.04?
[06:46] <z3r0d3rp> if so then disable third party repos
[06:46] <dr_willis> ServerCrash:  if he cant delete.. he cant move...
[06:46] <jalal> yes
[06:46] <z3r0d3rp> then update
[06:46] <jalal> 10.04
[06:47] <ServerCrash> dr_willis, fine no problem he can alteast copy  :)
[06:47] <z3r0d3rp> 10.04 can crash compiz for any number of reasons
[06:47] <dr_willis> ServerCrash:  time to check out the permissions features and perhaps use acl's
[06:47] <dr_willis> !acl
[06:47] <jalal> my system icon back now i want perfect solutions
[06:47] <jalal> so in future it will not be again
[06:47] <P-CHAN> I want create a distro like Apodio with remaster
[06:48] <ActionParsnip> esak: installs a desktop OS in text mode
[06:48] <ActionParsnip> jalal: what issue did ubuntu tweak generate?
[06:48] <P-CHAN> what is the better remastersys? UCK?
[06:48] <z3r0d3rp> in Linux there is no such thing as a perfect solution
[06:48] <dr_willis> jalal:  compiz can crash....   thats just a fact of life., the fusion-icon tool or other tools can auto-restart it if it crashes
[06:48] <jalal> it did nothing ..but i guess so problem came form that
[06:48] <jalal> before that syste working fine
[06:49] <z3r0d3rp> in modern systems there are no perfect solutions*
[06:49] <dr_willis> jalal:  thats not exactly proof its to blame.
[06:49] <sacarlson> I can't seem to find a working link for this https://svn.torproject.org/svn/torbrowser/trunk/build-scripts/config/polipo.conf  is there anther working link with the tor config file for polipo?
[06:49] <jalal> yes i am installing compiz --icons
[06:49] <ActionParsnip> P-CHAN: both are fine, there is no best or the other would die out as nobody would use it
[06:49] <dr_willis> !info fusion-icon
[06:49] <esak> actionparsnip alternate=install desktop ubuntu in text mode ?
[06:49] <z3r0d3rp> sacarlson, if you install polipo from the repos it should work
[06:50] <sacarlson> z3r0d3rp: so it's default to be configured for tor?
[06:50] <z3r0d3rp> I think so
[06:50] <z3r0d3rp> I can copypasta mine for you
[06:50] <P-CHAN> ActionParsnip: no. For example.... Unetbootin is better than USB Creator
[06:50] <z3r0d3rp> mine works fine
[06:50] <jalal> who want to configure tor?
[06:50] <jalal> i can give help
[06:50] <ActionParsnip> P-CHAN: its as intelligent as asking which is better, blue or red. Neither is better. All you will get is opinion
[06:50] <jalal> i am using TOR WITH PROXYCHAINS
[06:51] <sacarlson> jalal:  yes I want tor  z3rod3rp ok pastebin your config so I can compare
[06:51] <z3r0d3rp> *PEDOCHAINS
[06:51] <P-CHAN> ActionParsnip:  Blue
[06:51] <dr_willis> no wait green....  aaaaghhhh!  ;monty python:
[06:52] <ActionParsnip> P-CHAN: unetbootin isn't better, neither is better. That's just your opinion and nothing more
[06:52] <jalal> you go to tor website and add key for that
[06:52] <z3r0d3rp> no ActionParsnip, these are not objective
[06:52] <jalal> but first add you distro repos link in repositry
[06:52] <z3r0d3rp> some are in fact better than others
[06:52] <P-CHAN> ActionParsnip: what do you do doing for live?
[06:52] <jalal> you dont need to use polipo
[06:52] <jalal> just use vidalia
[06:52] <ActionParsnip> Esak: it installs the same ubuntu desktop, just in text mode
[06:53] <alphanum> hello
[06:53] <alphanum> how active is this channel usually?
[06:53] <dr_willis> alphanum:  normally very active
[06:53] <DarwinSurvivor> alphanum: wait 5 minutes and you'll have to scroll up 3 pages :P
[06:53] <dr_willis> today - hyperactiv
[06:53] <ActionParsnip> P-CHAN: NOC engineer, how is that relevant to support?
[06:53] <P-CHAN> ActionParsnip:  yes... why?
[06:53] <LeV91> 12.04 isn't really releasing today.. It's a trick!
[06:54] <alphanum> ooh
[06:54] <sacarlson> z3r0d3rp: in chromium with switchy I point my proxy at polipo and also tried the vidalia proxy address both return error in switch diagnostic plugin not working properly
[06:54] <dr_willis> LeV91:  and the cake is a lie.
[06:54] <alphanum> Dr4g, thx
[06:54] <alphanum> DarwinSurvivor, thx
[06:54] <ActionParsnip> alphanum: check in a few hours. This place going to get crazy
[06:54] <LeV91> The cake has always been a lie
[06:54] <z3r0d3rp> ActionParsnip, u been sniffin mah packets bro?
[06:54] <dr_willis> i recall seeing  3000+ people in here on release day
[06:55] <ActionParsnip> z3r0d3rp: who me....? Seriously though, no
[06:55] <z3r0d3rp> lol I work in netsec
[06:55] <cdm10> dr_willis: Speaking of the cake being a lie -- Valve is apparently talking about Steam / Source on Linux. This is a Good Thing. Shutting up about OT now.
[06:55] <z3r0d3rp> all I've heard about for the last month is CISPA
[06:56] <LeV91> Steam is and always has been horrible, both in concept and execution.
[06:56] <MannerMan> 12.04 soon :D
[06:56] <dr_willis> cdm10:  i will belive it when i see it.  same for the cake.
[06:56] <ActionParsnip> dr_willis: wanna join me in the Winchester til this all blows over?
[06:56] <sacarlson> I can access the polipo proxy direct from my chromium to bring up manuals and stuf if I plug 127.0.0.1:8123 into the address box of chromium so the polipo proxy is running
[06:56] <dr_willis> ActionParsnip:  im at work.. and my battery is at 30% so i will be gone soon anyway ;)
[06:57] <z3r0d3rp> sacarlson, tor runs on 9050
[06:57] <P-CHAN> ActionParsnip: You talk as if there were no better or worse.
[06:57] <sacarlson> so maybe my problem is in chromium switchy extention app?
[06:57] <Ben64> dr_willis: there are images of l4d2 running in linux, so you can see it
[06:57] <sebsebseb> ActionParsnip in the what?
[06:57] <cdm10> So, while I'm here to procrastinate and to see if release-craziness has happened yet -- does anybody have trouble using Ubuntu with big many-AP networks, such as might be found at a university or workplace?
[06:57] <LeV91> Hey guyz, is Quantal Quetzal out yet? :P
[06:57] <XDESIGN> when officially released ubuntu 12.04 ?
[06:57] <XDESIGN> ?
[06:58] <Ben64> XDESIGN: within 24 hours
[06:58] <newUser> Hi fellows
[06:58] <XReaper> NEVAR
[06:58] <XDESIGN> ok
[06:58] <twelveofour> All colleges may switch over tonight?
[06:58] <DarwinSurvivor> LeV91: I couldn't care less about steam, I just want the games to end up in the repo :P
[06:58] <ActionParsnip> dr_willis: ha I'm off to bed soon ready for my next nightshift. Hopefully it'll be okay in 10 hours
[06:58] <cdm10> Don't we usually have an "It's released whenever it's released" message in the topic?
[06:58] <newUser> I am new to Ubuntu 11.10. I would like to find the www-folder but cant find it. Any help please?
[06:58] <iceroot_> newUser: /var/www/
[06:59] <munim> does anyone know what time will 12.04 come out? I have to get it installed today
[06:59] <ActionParsnip> sebsebseb: not seen Shaun of the Dead?
[06:59] <DarwinSurvivor> cdm10: depends on the network. The eduroam network at BCIT can be a pain to connect to, but once connected it works beautifully
[06:59] <supreeth> I'm simulating a system that runs Ub 10.04 on Simics and their process tracker will allow me to debug each simulated process individually. For the process-tracker to get a lock on however they need me to find the comm, pid offset, state offset etc..    http://www.cs.sfu.ca/~fedorova/Tech/simics-guides-3.0.26/simics-reference-manual-public-all/topic148.html
[06:59] <smw> munim, not even the people releasing it know.
[06:59] <cdm10> munim: It comes out whenever it comes out, they never release at a particular time.
[06:59] <Ben64> munim: you can already install it, and then just update it later to the actual release version
[06:59] <twelveofour> wakeup and its not updated won't be as fun- will just have to work without checking install status
[06:59] <sebsebseb> ActionParsnip I have, but quite a long time ago.
[06:59] <cdm10> munim: But they should be pushing it to mirror sites now. Maybe.
[06:59] <supreeth> Anyone know where to find these values?
[06:59] <munim> cdm10, oh thats awesome. probably a few hours then
[07:00] <cdm10> munim: I wouldn't hold your breath.
[07:00] <ActionParsnip> sebsebseb: it's the name of the pub
[07:00] <sebsebseb> ActionParsnip oh
[07:00] <twelveofour> sometimes they notice a pixel off by one (on the comand line) and keep recompiling each time.
[07:00] <ActionParsnip> Perfick
[07:00] <z3r0d3rp> supreeth, that sounds like a question for r/Linux
[07:01] <sacarlson> z3r0d3rp: I don't see anything listening on port 9050 but I tried it any way in switch with no change in failure
[07:01] <cdm10> DarwinSurvivor: For me, it seems to have to do with the phase of the moon -- I'll try booting Ubuntu on a whim and it'll connect, but won't ever again. And if I want to use the WPA2-Enterprise network, which is necessary for most non-vanilla network services, well... I'm pretty much out of luck. If it connects at all, it drops within a few minutes.
[07:01] <munim> Ben64, if its just today, i might as well wait
[07:01] <cdm10> DarwinSurvivor: This has happened with both Broadcom and Intel NICs. Just lovely. It's all but forced me to use Windows as my main OS.
[07:01] <supreeth> z3r0d3rp: Um, what's that?
[07:01] <z3r0d3rp> sacarlson, you should just install tor from the repos
[07:01] <Ben64> munim: or avoid all the trouble connecting to the servers at release time :)
[07:02] <z3r0d3rp> it should come config'd
[07:02] <ActionParsnip> cdm10: try disabling n speed with modprobe options
[07:02] <DarwinSurvivor> cdm10: what type of network is it?
[07:02] <z3r0d3rp> supreeth, that is a forum on Reddit
[07:02] <munim> Ben64, the Indian mirrors don't get that crowded really
[07:02] <z3r0d3rp> lots of Linux gurus there
[07:02] <ActionParsnip> cdm10: is it a centrino wifi chi
[07:02] <ActionParsnip> Chip
[07:02] <sacarlson> z3r0d3rp: tor for one this isn't in the repo's of Lubuntu but I assume I installed it correctly from the deb files I got
[07:02] <P-CHAN> Lets sing the Free Software song!
[07:03] <cdm10> DarwinSurvivor: 802.11n, WPA2-Enterprise, about 5 zillion APs (Seriously, according to the Intel tool, my computer sees 30+ right now.)
[07:03] <cdm10> ActionParsnip: It's a 4965AGN
[07:03] <z3r0d3rp> sacarlson, hmm I thought tor was in the repos
[07:03] <z3r0d3rp> did you look for "vidalia"
[07:03] <dr_willis> !info tor
[07:03] <cdm10> ActionParsnip: It's probably best I don't try to troubleshoot this now, given that I'm not actually on Ubuntu... if I were, I wouldn't be able to get to this chatroom :)
[07:03] <ActionParsnip> cdm10: try disabling n speed, may give a stable connection
[07:04] <DarwinSurvivor> cdm10: you can always try wicd, i've had luck with that in the past for "non-standard" networks
[07:04] <DarwinSurvivor> cdm10: just make sure you have a wired connection first, installing wicd on ubuntu removes network-manager :(
[07:04] <cdm10> ActionParsnip: I'll try that, though I sure as heck won't be happy about connecting to my university's obscenely fast network with slow wireless :-/
[07:04] <ActionParsnip> cdm10: at 54mbps you'll be fine
[07:04] <cdm10> DarwinSurvivor: As a result of Research, my school has found out that something like 3% of students actually used the wired. They disconnected all our ports.
[07:04] <supreeth> z3r0d3rp: I see that Reddit is some form of link ranking (from Wiki). I wasn't just posting a link; in case you missed my second line, I'm looking for those offset values for the Ubuntu 10.04 with kernel 2.6.32-33-generic.
[07:05] <DarwinSurvivor> cdm10: OUCH. if they have a physical IT help center, they might have a wired connection there
[07:05] <cdm10> ActionParsnip: But how will I download the latest Ubuntu image in approximately a minute??! It will be a sad, sad existence.
[07:05] <DarwinSurvivor> cdm10: or you could get someone with a laptop to make a bridge for you
[07:05] <stripe> would I be able to get write privalages on a seperate hard drive by edeiting the fstab file
[07:06] <cdm10> DarwinSurvivor: As it happens, one of my friends had to do that in order to use Lion Internet Recovery on his Mac, and they were helpful (He basically said techie stuff and convinced them he was techie-qualified.) I'm even better off, I work for a division of our IT, just not the part concerned with the network.
[07:07] <ActionParsnip> cdm10: just grab the daily now, then upgrade into the stable.
[07:07] <z3r0d3rp> supreeth, if you don't know what reddit is... I highly doubt you will find the information you are looking for
[07:07] <cdm10> ActionParsnip: I was mostly joking :)
[07:07] <z3r0d3rp> srsly that's just ridiculous
[07:08] <sacarlson> z3r0d3rp: nope I see no tor package in synaptic in ubuntu  10.04 or Lubuntu 10.04
[07:08] <supreeth> z3r0d3rp: Ha, well I'll have to take my chances then!
[07:08] <P-CHAN> ActionParsnip: go se
[07:08] <z3r0d3rp> that's your problem right there
[07:08] <cdm10> DarwinSurvivor: The fun bit is that no ethernet means no wired phone lines (We've gone VoIP), and my dorm in the basement doesn't get much cell service. I would have actually wanted a landline...
[07:09] <ActionParsnip> cdm10: if you run: sudo lshw -C network    you will see the driver module driving the device and you can then see how to disable n speed using websearches
[07:09] <DarwinSurvivor> cdm10: ouch, voip over wifi?
[07:09] <sacarlson> z3r0d3rp: In Lubuntu I installed the tor package deb direct for the tor group
[07:09] <ActionParsnip> P-CHAN: you lost me
[07:09] <alphanum> hi guys
[07:09] <alphanum> I'm looking into ec2 using ubuntu
[07:10] <P-CHAN> ActionParsnip: :(
[07:10] <cdm10> DarwinSurvivor: No, voip over wired, though presumably there are some wireless voip phones somewhere because there's a voice network. From what I've heard from my boss, replacing the analog PBX with IP-PBX went from a room of switching equipment to like 3 racks for the whole campus.
[07:10] <P-CHAN> >=D
[07:10] <ActionParsnip> P-CHAN: 'go se' isn't a sentence
[07:11] <z3r0d3rp> sacarlson, try running vidalia
[07:11] <z3r0d3rp> that should start your relay
[07:11] <sacarlson> z3r0d3rp: yes it comes up fine in vidalia
[07:11] <z3r0d3rp> then you want to use either torbutton in firefox
[07:11] <cdm10> ActionParsnip: I'll try disabling N, sounds like a reasonable if regrettable workaround. But, curious, why do you think that might work?
[07:11] <Bagels> Hi, is there an app that would let me zoom in on my screen?  I used to have one called Zoom in/out but I can't find a package anymore.  It simply changed the resolution to something lower, so that my fat fingers could use the touchscreen
[07:11] <z3r0d3rp> or socks 5 on 9050 or 9051 in foxy proxy/manual
[07:12] <z3r0d3rp> open vidalia and click on the advanced tab
[07:12] <z3r0d3rp> this should show you where you are listening
[07:12] <ActionParsnip> cdm10: it's worked in the past. Some chips have issues with it.
[07:12] <z3r0d3rp> mine happens to be on 9051
[07:12] <z3r0d3rp> usually it is 9050
[07:13] <vexaxv> isnt ubuntu 12.04 or 10 whatever supposed to be out right now?
[07:13] <vexaxv> or is the beta still on?
[07:13] <DarwinSurvivor> !outyet | vexaxv
[07:14] <ActionParsnip> cdm10: or use the lshw output to find guides which may allow you to keep n with other options
[07:14] <supreeth> quit
[07:14] <xukun> I'm thinking of buying a new workstation for mainly using with ubuntu. Can anybody advice me a motherboard and cpu?
[07:14] <vexaxv> join #ubuntu-release-party
[07:14] <vexaxv> right?
[07:14] <yuri__> Question: Does 32-bit/64-bit really matter? I have 2 gigs of RAM and the 4 gig limit seems to be the only reason to go 64-bit so far.
[07:14] <MechanisM> when ubuntu going to be released?(I know today, I mean time)
[07:14] <yuri__> Or is it just a personal preference for the most part?
[07:14] <ActionParsnip> vexaxv: read the motd. Massive clue there, clear as day
[07:15] <yuri__> !motd
[07:15] <z3r0d3rp> supreeth, I told you where to find your answers
[07:15] <yuri__> Woops. How do I get the motd on here?
[07:15] <cdm10> yuri__: With 12.04, coming out today, 64-bit should have far fewer issues running older 32-bit software. As far as I'm aware, there's no reason to use 32-bit any more.
[07:15] <z3r0d3rp> but since your web research skills are border line retarded
[07:15] <z3r0d3rp> I have no faith that you will find them
[07:15] <ActionParsnip> yuri__: do you intend to do audio and video encoding?
[07:16] <yuri__> No encoding. Just programming. Once I remember how. ;) Almost 16 years away from C++ might take me a week or two to remember it all. ;)
[07:16] <vexaxv> whats the join command i forgot
[07:16] <cdm10> vexaxv: then how'd you get here? :P /join
[07:17] <cdm10> vexaxv: or /j for short
[07:17] <ActionParsnip> yuri__: i'd go 32bit unless 64bit benefits compilation
[07:17] <yuri__> That's my thing. I can't see a reason for 64bit. Yeah, my CPU is 64bit, but I have had more troubles with it even in Win7 64 than I don't know what. :)
[07:18] <cdm10> yuri__: I'm just curious, what issues have you had with 64bit stuff?
[07:18] <z3r0d3rp> people who use 32 bit systems on 64 bit processors should be kicked in the balls
[07:18] <ActionParsnip> yuri__: id go 32bit if it were me
[07:18] <xranby_ac100> z3r0d3rp: ouch.. well i do that to test ia32 bit compatiblity
[07:18] <yuri__> And in regards to programming, most of my code is 32-bit. As for issues, well, everything from general instabilities in windows to memory leaks in ubuntu. I compile the kernel and my system slows to a screeching halt for ever. I have to reboot to get it back into shape.
[07:19] <yuri__> If my code isn't 32-bit, it's 16-bit. I have a friend who still runs a 486 with win 95. ;)
[07:19] <ukbeast> is today the 12.04 final release?
[07:19] <sacarlson> I think I just found out that the proxy switchy doesn't work in the Lubuntu version of chromium.  but there must be a method?
[07:19] <iceroot_> ukbeast: yes
[07:19] <z3r0d3rp> protip: 32 bit architecture is obsolete
[07:20] <ActionParsnip> yuri__: i hope its a DX ;-)
[07:20] <P-CHAN> z3r0d3rp: but there is few programs running in 64 bits
[07:20] <yuri__> Yeah. 486/100DX.
[07:20]  * ukbeast waits excitedly for iso
[07:20] <ActionParsnip> Nice
[07:20] <P-CHAN> ukbeast: Me too because I am on 10.04
[07:20] <z3r0d3rp> in 5 years 32 bit everything will be gone
[07:21] <ActionParsnip> z3r0d3rp: 5 years != obsolete
[07:21] <yuri__> It's funny. I was playing with my thumb drive and assembler the other day and even after 16 years away from coding, I can still remember how to make a bootsector and rudimentary kernel from scratch. ;)
[07:21] <P-CHAN> stop ethical discussion
[07:22] <P-CHAN> stio the ethics or hipocrisie
[07:22] <ukbeast> P-CHAN: I'm using 12.04 Beta 2 and it runs great and it only had 2 program crashes which now are gone
[07:22] <cdm10> z3r0d3rp: Intel was making 386's until '07
[07:22] <P-CHAN> ukbeast:  good
[07:22] <z3r0d3rp> apparently some people still use them
[07:22] <z3r0d3rp> lol
[07:22] <ukbeast> Intel 945 is OLD :'(
[07:23] <P-CHAN> ukbeast:  I am downloading Apodio linux but
[07:23] <yuri__> I ran on an old 386 until '96. Then I got a 486 and a Pii Pro dual processor back in 98. Then a P4 in 2000 and last year a AMD Phenom II triple core. ;)
[07:23] <P-CHAN> this is outdated to run in my usb stick
[07:23] <z3r0d3rp> there is no real reason to install a 32 bit system on a 64 bit machine unless you absolutely cannot find hardware drivers
[07:23] <z3r0d3rp> it's a detriment to progress
[07:24] <P-CHAN> z3r0d3rp: I linux word 64 bit in very unstable
[07:24] <yuri__> All my hardware, 'cept for the mobo and cpu, are 32-bit software still.
[07:24] <ukbeast> 1st time unity came around was the ubuntu netbook remix
[07:24] <P-CHAN> Canonical recommends 32 bits
[07:24] <z3r0d3rp> I have run 64 bit Linux systems for 4 years and no issues
[07:24] <z3r0d3rp> not one
[07:24] <Bennlucky7> <--64bits
[07:24] <P-CHAN> z3r0d3rp: you are lying
[07:24] <z3r0d3rp> no I am not
[07:24] <ActionParsnip> z3r0d3rp: or you want zsnes packaged and have limited space and are not confident with compilation
[07:25] <P-CHAN> JAVA 64 Bits crashes every time
[07:25] <yuri__> Compiling other people's stuff is easier than writing my own.
[07:25] <Dazed_75> ditto, 64 bit ubuntu on 3 machines for years now
[07:25] <z3r0d3rp> P-CHAN, sounds like you have bad hardware
[07:25] <z3r0d3rp> or fail at Linux
[07:25] <z3r0d3rp> I've never had an issue
[07:25] <ukbeast> How dare adobe remove hardware acceleration from flash 11, I still use 10,2
[07:25] <Bennlucky7> lol..my sun java is fine
[07:25] <MechanisM> P-CHAN I have 64 and not crashes for java
[07:25] <P-CHAN> z3r0d3rp: why WINDOWS works fine in all machines?
[07:26] <z3r0d3rp> ukbeast, they removed it?
[07:26] <P-CHAN> and linux not?
[07:26] <cdm10> P-CHAN: I certainly don't agree with z3r0d3rp and his bad manners, but I also want to mention that I haven't had any issues with 64-bit since I got a 64-bit machine.
[07:26] <z3r0d3rp> because you are installing the wrong distros
[07:26] <ActionParsnip> z3r0d3rp: my lappy is a dual core 32bit, runs fine. Not had an issue with 64bit either tbh
[07:26] <z3r0d3rp> or your video card is shit
[07:26] <z3r0d3rp> or some other such thing
[07:26] <yuri__> Heh. Want a heck of an LOL?! Win7 will install on a 486/100DX, takes a day thought just to install and like half-an-hour to boot. ;)
[07:26] <P-CHAN> z3r0d3rp: Why canonical recommends 32 bits in download page?
[07:27] <Bennlucky7> windows 4 noob
[07:27] <P-CHAN> canonical is owner of ubuntu.
[07:27] <ActionParsnip> P-CHAN: simple
[07:27] <ukbeast> 10.2 I get solid 25 fp/s on youtube, 11 it's half that
[07:27] <yuri__> Prolly so they don' have someone like me starting debates about 32-bit/64-bit. ;)
[07:27] <z3r0d3rp> because canonical knows that lots of people with old machines don't know what architecture they have
[07:27] <z3r0d3rp> and 32 bit will work on any
[07:27] <z3r0d3rp> durrrr
[07:27] <y0ug> Hi, Someone now the hour for the release?
[07:27] <yuri__> For now. Rumor has it that AMD is realing a 128-bit processor next year which won't run 32-bit anymore.
[07:28] <yuri__> *releasing.
[07:28] <ukbeast> Unity has really came a LONG way
[07:28] <Bagels> does unity interferewith compiz? I change things in compiz and nothing happens
[07:28] <z3r0d3rp> unity uses compiz
[07:28] <ukbeast> Compiz hates gnome and unity unless you do some hack work
[07:28] <z3r0d3rp> but not in 2d mode
[07:28] <ActionParsnip> P-CHAN: 32bit will run on BOTH 64bit and 32bit. The target audience of Ubuntu is the average user. So if they are not sure, they can use the recommended and it will work
[07:29] <z3r0d3rp> ^
[07:29] <chalcedony> my husband has a new brother printer  it can't find the file brlpdwrappermfcj6710dw on ubuntu 10.10
[07:29] <yuri__> Turboprint works wonders.
[07:29] <joemppe> yuri__, how much RAM can you stick in a 486DX :o\
[07:29] <yuri__> Mine only took 512MB.
[07:29] <ActionParsnip> chalcedony: maverick is eol
[07:29] <joemppe> "only"
[07:29] <chalcedony> turboprint?
[07:29] <yuri__> I've seen a few 486s that take 1 gig.
[07:29] <Bagels> ukbeast: z3r0d3rp so what does that mean for me? I'm using unity 2D
[07:30] <yuri__> But they were usually server machines.
[07:30] <joemppe> well that should be enough to boot win7
[07:30] <yuri__> lol
[07:30] <z3r0d3rp> bagels compiz won't work in unity 2d
[07:30] <chalcedony> ActionParsnip, sigh, we will upgrade him soon
[07:30] <ukbeast> Use Xcfe or another session
[07:30] <ActionParsnip> chalcedony: brother make 32bit Linux drivers. Try there
[07:30] <z3r0d3rp> people run unity in 2d? who knew?
[07:30] <Bagels> z3r0d3rp: what does it work with then, I want to zoom and do alt+tab
[07:30] <chalcedony> ActionParsnip, oh - will it work on 64bit?
[07:31] <z3r0d3rp> sorry bagels no can do
[07:31] <yuri__> As far as printers, I have a Canon Pixma 250P, I hate the thing. I had to buy turboprint in order to get the ink level under linux.
[07:31] <ActionParsnip> z3r0d3rp: i do, i hate compiz
[07:31] <yuri__> Couldn't get the drivers for it to work under wine. :(
[07:31] <chalcedony> yuri__, ouch sorry
[07:31] <ukbeast> Wine does not run drivers
[07:31] <Bagels> z3r0d3rp: what, can't use compiz at all in ubuntu? is that what you're saying? I doubt that very much, sir :(
[07:31] <ActionParsnip> chalcedony: could force the arch I guess
[07:31] <chalcedony> ActionParsnip, debian.
[07:31] <yuri__> Yeah, found that out the hard way, ukbeast. ;)
[07:32] <chalcedony> ActionParsnip, um how?
[07:32] <ukbeast> Because It does not go near the kernal files
[07:32] <tarzeau> it's not released yet?
[07:32] <z3r0d3rp> bagels 2d = no effects
[07:32] <ActionParsnip> chalcedony: what of Debian?
[07:32] <Bagels> z3r0d3rp: so if I switch to unity 3D can I have effects? I can log out and change my interface
[07:32] <z3r0d3rp> 3d even works on my old p4 box from 2004
[07:33] <chalcedony> oh you said you don't like compiz, not unity
[07:33] <ActionParsnip> Bagels: 2D = no dumb compiz glitches
[07:33] <z3r0d3rp> you have to install gpu drivers
[07:33] <yuri__> *sigh* It is taking sooooo long to tar and compress my home directory. It's only 18gb. :(
[07:33] <z3r0d3rp> otherwise you are stuck
[07:33] <tarzeau> yuri__: compress using gzip or something else?
[07:33] <z3r0d3rp> unity 2d is meant to support ancient hardware
[07:33] <ActionParsnip> chalcedony: check man dpkg
[07:34] <P-CHAN> z3r0d3rp: no reason for desktop 3d
[07:34] <P-CHAN> eyecandy sux
[07:34] <tarzeau> z3r0d3rp: ubuntu doesn't support ancient hardware
[07:34] <ukbeast> Unity 3d has a weakness, under Driconf, enable Enable_stub ARB
[07:34] <ActionParsnip> z3r0d3rp: not strictly
[07:34] <z3r0d3rp> sure it does
[07:34] <P-CHAN> I prefer Kde
[07:34] <z3r0d3rp> 10.04 will run on anything practically
[07:34] <tarzeau> z3r0d3rp: certainly it does not
[07:34] <cdm10> z3r0d3rp: I have hardware from not that long ago which runs Compiz very slowly. You're simply wrong about this -- some older but not ANCIENT systems DO work better without compiz.
[07:34] <chalcedony> ActionParsnip, ty
[07:34] <Bagels> ActionParsnip: z3r0d3rp So even if I log in with Unity 3D I still have to do some fiddling to get things like alt+tab working again?
[07:34] <tarzeau> z3r0d3rp: no you can't run it on hardware that's ancient
[07:34] <z3r0d3rp> I didn't say work well
[07:34] <yuri__> I haven't tried unity yet. Tried just about all flavors of linux back in the 90s, though. ;)
[07:34] <ukbeast> Would you say Intel 945GME is ancient?
[07:35] <tarzeau> z3r0d3rp: yes i know, it will not work at all on ancient hardware
[07:35] <z3r0d3rp> I said 2d is meant for ancient
[07:35] <tarzeau> z3r0d3rp: simply because linux dropped support for 386 machines
[07:35] <ActionParsnip> z3r0d3rp: even if I had the most graphically powerful PC I STILL wound use 2D
[07:35] <P-CHAN> intel945 isnt ancient
[07:35] <tarzeau> z3r0d3rp: and there's some old machines which can't have more than 32 or 64 mb memory
[07:35] <ActionParsnip> Would*
[07:35] <P-CHAN> KDE 4 runs fine
[07:35] <z3r0d3rp> I define anything older that a pentium 3 ancient
[07:35] <ukbeast> KDE?, Boo!
[07:36] <z3r0d3rp> so not that ancient
[07:36] <z3r0d3rp> no
[07:36] <ukbeast> OK
[07:36] <z3r0d3rp> but I also consider a pentium 3 ancient
[07:36] <P-CHAN> ukbeast: boo? Mark Shuttlerwork uses KDE
[07:36] <P-CHAN> Linus Torvalds prefer KDE
[07:36] <ActionParsnip> z3r0d3rp: you can run Lubuntu well on a P2
[07:36] <hnsz>  P-CHAN not anymore he came back on that
[07:36] <ukbeast> It just looks over complicated
[07:37] <z3r0d3rp> Lubuntu is as resource intensive as unity
[07:37] <ActionParsnip> P-CHAN: yeah, well the Linux standard base species RPM, not DEB....
[07:37] <P-CHAN> ActionParsnip: ???????
[07:37] <ukbeast> Debian, I <3
[07:38] <z3r0d3rp> RPM is standard because of Red Hat?
[07:38] <z3r0d3rp> lol no
[07:38] <yuri__> YEah.
[07:38] <ActionParsnip> z3r0d3rp: its really not. I have P2 systems and Unit
[07:38] <z3r0d3rp> likely more installs using .deb
[07:38] <P-CHAN> RPM +DEB
[07:38] <ActionParsnip> z3r0d3rp: kills it dead
[07:38] <P-CHAN> RDM
[07:38] <yuri__> RH has been around since 1990. It went proprietary-ish back in 99, I believe.
[07:39] <ukbeast> Alien works a treat for those non .Deb files
[07:39] <yuri__> I remember my first experience with Debian. Scared me. Lost my RH disc and couldn't download RH no more. Even tried FreeBSD, that lasted all fo one day. Couldn't even get my mouse to work. ;)
[07:39] <z3r0d3rp> I dislike red hat based distros
[07:39] <P-CHAN> Linux haves very very interfaces but few programs
[07:39] <P-CHAN> or gimp or krita for example
[07:40] <ukbeast> OpenShot :) kicks windows movie makers BUTT
[07:40] <yuri__> *hides at the mention of the W word* How dare you cuss in public like that, ukbeast. ;)
[07:40] <z3r0d3rp> every time I go back to test the latest Fedora... I last about a day and then remember why I hate it
[07:40] <P-CHAN> ukbeast: Torrents >>>>>>> OpenShot
[07:40] <P-CHAN> Keygen, crack uhul
[07:40] <SunTsu> Wouldn't that be topics for -offtopic?
[07:40] <yuri__> Old redhat was awesome. Before it went proprietary and Fedora I agree is a scary experience.
[07:41] <saju> getting error mknod: missing operand after `10'
[07:41] <saju> when executing # mknod /dev/kvm c 10 `grep '\<kvm\>' /proc/misc | cut -f 1 -d\ `
[07:41] <ukbeast> Also Blender, I wish I have a proper tower for that, *Is on SAMSUNG N130
[07:42] <ikonia> saju: what arey ou doing ?
[07:42]  * ActionParsnip misses Mandrake 7. Great days
[07:42] <z3r0d3rp> the real problem is that once you get spoiled by the way Ubuntu handles permission and by apt - going back makes you feel like someone just made your life difficult for no reason
[07:42] <z3r0d3rp> it makes sense in a corporate environment I suppose
[07:42] <l3d> so lost on how to get a downloaded theme to worl?
[07:42] <z3r0d3rp> but no being able to change printers without root is dumb
[07:42] <saju> i want to create /dev/kvm
[07:42] <yuri__> I had a Fedora server for a year. Hated everyday. It kept breaking constantly.
[07:42] <stripe> # sdb1 backup drive
[07:42] <stripe> UUID=5bcedfb4-6c9c-4da6-9bf0-ce2a3a7e4a37 /media/backup ext4 defaults 0 1 does this look about right to add to fstab so that I can make another hard drive writable
[07:43] <SunTsu> saju: you don't need to mknod anymore, /dev is taken care by udev now
[07:43] <z3r0d3rp> I always run Debian for servers, but I always have
[07:43] <ActionParsnip> saju: i'd ask in #bash too.
[07:43] <z3r0d3rp> old habits I suppose
[07:43] <saju> i got that command from http://forum.soft32.com/linux/open-dev-kvm-file-directory-ftopict337826.html
[07:43] <ikonia> saju: why do you want to create that ?
[07:43] <P-CHAN> yuri__:  who cares. Ubuntu haves better support in google
[07:43] <P-CHAN> Mint oin first
[07:43] <SunTsu> !offtopic
[07:43] <ikonia> saju: what are you trying to do and why ?
[07:43] <ikonia> guys, can we stop with the tedious distro memories please.
[07:44] <yuri__> And I was having such fun while waiting for my hard drive to backup. I hate IDE. ;)
[07:44] <ActionParsnip> Aye
[07:44] <saju> getting error when strating VM
[07:44] <saju> /dev/kvm: No such file or directory\nCould not initialize KVM,
[07:44] <ukbeast> I never touched system files before (Back on Win****) I have a great confidence in tinkering with modprobe to blacklist a wlan driver which was buggy on 11.10
[07:44] <ikonia> saju: right, what version of ubuntu are you using ?
[07:44] <SunTsu> saju: then you don't have kvm support in your kernel
[07:45] <P-CHAN> pega na minha benga cambada de feladaputa
[07:45] <ikonia> P-CHAN: stop
[07:45] <P-CHAN> ikonia: ok
[07:45] <SunTsu> !pt | P-CHAN
[07:45] <Guest82801> the wireless mouse keeps freezing on my laptop when running on battery only
[07:45] <saju> yes
[07:45] <scientes> how do i use the linux2.6 personliaty?
[07:45] <scientes> i only see linux32 linux64
[07:45] <skramer_> how do I set up forked-daapd properly? I can see the tracks, but when I try to play there´s no sound in Banshee nor in Rhythmbox...
[07:46] <ikonia> saju: is the kvm module loaded ?
[07:46] <ukbeast> Banshee? Clementine is the ticket mate ;)
[07:46] <z3r0d3rp> Guest82801, I'm guessing that your usb ports are being powered down
[07:46] <z3r0d3rp> probably ACPI issue
[07:46] <z3r0d3rp> check in bios
[07:46] <P-CHAN> CANONICAL must support MATE with GTK3
[07:46] <skramer_> ukbeast: you mean I install Clementine & then I should be able to listen to my music??
[07:46] <ikonia> P-CHAN: STOP, now
[07:46] <saju> ya
[07:47] <Guest82801> z3r0d3rp, in bios? shouldn't this be in the OS?
[07:47] <saju> lsmod | grep kvm
[07:47] <saju> kvm                   305988  0
[07:47] <P-CHAN> ikonia: why now?
[07:47] <ukbeast> Also is ubuntu-restricted installed?
[07:47] <ukbeast> it gives you all the codecs you need
[07:47] <ikonia> P-CHAN: do you need support yes/no ?
[07:48] <schultza> when will 12.4 be release?
[07:48] <ikonia> saju: right, so udev should create that kvm node, you shouldn't have to manually create that
[07:48] <skramer_> yes, it is. In fact, it had mt-daapd working already. But after switching to forked-daapd I ran into problems...
[07:48] <P-CHAN> ikonia: yes man... My nokia 6111 hang on ubuntu
[07:48] <ikonia> saju: the most common cause for it not getting created is your CPU does't properly support virtualisation
[07:48] <ikonia> P-CHAN: what do you mean your phone hangs on ubuntu ?
[07:48] <ukbeast> Has anyone been region restricted when watching a dvd? Not happen to me I'm curios does it happen on ubuntu
[07:49] <z3r0d3rp> Guest0498, the settings for you your computer handles ACPI are in hardware... often times there are options such as powering down peripherals to save power
[07:49] <yuri__> You know, I never thought to play my doctor who dvd under linux. I thought the region stuff was firmware based in the dvd-drive itself.
[07:50] <P-CHAN> ikonia: WHen I use Nokia as modem with chrome, chromium or srware iron and closes ubuntu stops or when the SCREEN turn off
[07:50] <P-CHAN> [it only happen in uncle ubuntu
[07:50] <morpheeze> does anybody have a rough idea when the final images will be available for download?
[07:50] <ukbeast> I had one scrambled trailer on my anime DVD, *tries to remember name
[07:50] <z3r0d3rp> sometimes laptops and netbooks that are shipped with Windows OEM have drivers to help out with these type of things... in linux it might not send the proper signal to wake them
[07:50] <kaushal> Hi
[07:51] <kaushal> what is the exact time 12.04 will be released to public ?
[07:51] <z3r0d3rp> so you might be able to turn off ACPI control of your peripheral in BIOS
[07:51] <z3r0d3rp> that would probably fix it
[07:51] <ikonia> P-CHAN: I'm sorry, I don't understand what you are saying, chrome is a web browser, it has no relevence to a modem
[07:51] <ikonia> ukbeast: donesn't matter about the name
[07:51] <P-CHAN> ikonia: no are you sure?
[07:51] <ikonia> kaushal: no-one knows,
[07:51] <ikonia> P-CHAN: positive
[07:52] <P-CHAN> ikonia:  Why it occurs only with my cell phone?
[07:52] <schultza> are there any issues upgrading distros... not a complete reinstall?
[07:52] <ikonia> P-CHAN: I don't know what you're actually asking
[07:52] <z3r0d3rp> iconia he is saying that he tethers to his phone and it crashes
[07:52] <ikonia> schultza: upgrades are fully supported
[07:52] <z3r0d3rp> ikonia,
[07:52] <schultza> thanks, ikonia
[07:52] <ukbeast> anyone get stuntrally working?
[07:53] <P-CHAN> ikonia: SOMETIMes i use nokia 6111 in ubuntu as modem
[07:53] <P-CHAN> ¬¬
[07:53] <ikonia> z3r0d3rp: thank you
[07:53] <schultza> should i wait to upgrade lts to lts or can i go closer right now?
[07:53] <fidel_> schultza: you can do both - so at the end its your decision
[07:53] <yuri__> Ah. I meant to ask that a little while ago. Can we go from final beta to lts or does it have to be lts to lts?
[07:53] <ukbeast> I installed it off playdeb and crashes after loading before race
[07:54] <schultza> which would be better? safer? (trying not to reinstall and loose data)
[07:54] <jackbrownhf> anyone available ? how can i set a plugin in xchat permanently ?
[07:54] <ikonia> ukbeast: contact playdeb then
[07:54] <ikonia> ukbeast: it's their package
[07:54] <ukbeast> I'm upgrading in update manager
[07:55] <z3r0d3rp> ukbeast google is your friend... it's likely that someone else is probably having the same issue
[07:55] <ikonia> ukbeast: just contact playdeb, they build those packages, they support them, the same as this channel supports ubuntu's packages
[07:56] <ukbeast> OK thanks
[07:56] <schultza> i think ubuntu should have rolling release codebase imho
[07:56] <ikonia> schultza: well it's not so thanks for that comment
[07:57] <z3r0d3rp> problem with rolling releases is that they force people to update to potentially less stable packages
[07:57] <z3r0d3rp> some people hate change
[07:57] <z3r0d3rp> etc
[07:57] <ikonia> well, it's not a rolling release so no need for discussion
[07:57] <schultza> ouch... sorry for putting fuel in the fire
[07:59] <ukbeast> Don't go nuts for this comment, Which is a good recommended AV?
[07:59] <z3r0d3rp> for Windows?
[07:59] <z3r0d3rp> don't need one for Ubuntu
[08:00] <ukbeast> They are possibilities, it's not 100% protected
[08:00] <Queops> If you are not careful
[08:00] <Queops> If you still insist there is ClamAV, but might be more useful to scan your windows partitions than anything lol.
[08:00] <Dragos29> hy
[08:01] <z3r0d3rp> I work in netsec... and I can tell you with certainty that AV does not benefit linux
[08:01] <yuri__> Are there any DVD design programs for Linux similar to Sony DVD Architect? I tried DVD Styler, but it keeps freezing half way through the render process.
[08:01] <z3r0d3rp> if you are going to get hacked it will be by weak service exploit
[08:01] <Dragos29> who help me
[08:01] <z3r0d3rp> or rogue trojan that you willfully installed
[08:01] <Dragos29> i have a problem with ubuntu
[08:02] <ukbeast> I saw that Mac got hit with trojan
[08:02] <iceroot_> !details | Dragos29
[08:02] <ukbeast> Is it unix based?
[08:02] <z3r0d3rp> ukbeast, that was a hole in Java
[08:02] <iceroot_> ukbeast: yes and offtopic here
[08:02] <ukbeast> AH I see
[08:02] <Dragos29> i installed ubuntu 11.10
[08:03] <Dragos29> and i clicked on restart
[08:03] <Roj> ubuntu have any dvd version?with most app for install like open suse dvd?
[08:03] <iceroot_> Roj: yes
[08:03] <vexaxv> cant waittttttt for ubuntu 12.04
[08:03] <Dragos29> Occur when loading ubuntu I do not get to write user and password
[08:03] <iceroot_> !download | Roj
[08:04] <yuri__> GRRR! I want 1204.
[08:04] <iceroot_> yuri__: then get it
[08:04] <Dragos29> *stopping save kernel messages
[08:05] <Dragos29> *starting bluetooth
[08:05] <Amdpc> !enter Dragos29
[08:05] <iceroot_> Dragos29: no GUI comes up? just the boot-messages?
[08:05] <vexaxv> yuri__, i do too official though not beta
[08:05] <Amdpc> !enter | Dragos29
[08:05] <Multiply> Hi guys. I recently tried upgrading my ubuntu server, and it went fine with the first upgrade. And the next one didn't reboot, so I forced the machine off, and back on. Now I'm stuck at grub. How do I get into the system now?
[08:05] <Roj> i need dvd version it is cd version  :-)
[08:05] <iceroot_> Multiply: grub is offering you different kernel-version to boot?
[08:06] <yuri__> That's my question though, is this like win where you can not go from beta to final or can I do that? Beta to final. Upgrading.
[08:06] <iceroot_> Roj: look at the links there is the dvd also
[08:06] <Multiply> iceroot_: It's more like cmdline only
[08:06] <iceroot_> Roj: imo on "alternate download locations"
[08:06] <vexaxv> yuri__, official will be out today just wait lol
[08:06] <Amdpc> @Roj : May I pm you ?
[08:06] <iceroot_> Multiply: some text about "busybox"?
[08:06] <Ben64> yuri__: yes you can update from beta to final
[08:06] <z3r0d3rp> he's dropped into grub rescue
[08:06] <iceroot_> !final | yuri__
[08:07] <Multiply> iceroot_: All it says is Minimal BASH-like line editing is supported. And then GRUB version 1.98-1ubuntu13
[08:07] <Starminn> How can I backup my GPG/SSH data so I can use it still once I make a fresh install of Ubuntu 12.04?
[08:07] <z3r0d3rp> yeah it can't find your kernel
[08:07] <yuri__> I'm only anxious because my system is running in RAM only right now. I went to switch for MAWK to GAWK and lost a lot of core files for ubuntu. :(
[08:07] <yuri__> I know, it makes no sense to me either.
[08:08] <iceroot_> yuri__: i asked you about some output still no response so we can not solve your issue
[08:08] <z3r0d3rp> lol yuri__  at least you have a reason for a full new install
[08:08] <z3r0d3rp> I am going to stick with 11.10 until the initial bugs are worked out
[08:08] <yuri__> I gave output. Must have gotten lost in all the chatter.
[08:08] <yuri__> Lemme grab it again real quick.
[08:08] <iceroot_> yuri__: fine, any output of "dpkg -l | grep -v ^ii | grep -v ^rc"?
[08:09] <yuri__> iF  install-info                          4.13a.dfsg.1-8ubuntu1                   Manage installed documentation in info format
[08:09] <theotix> test
[08:09] <theotix> hello
[08:09] <Multiply> iceroot_: I've tried a few tips from google, but I can't seem to get my root right. I know (hd0,1) and (lb1-root) have content.
[08:09] <theotix> What news about the LTS version ?
[08:09] <Multiply> iceroot_: Where it seems (lb1-root) is having most of my files.
[08:10] <iceroot_> yuri__: that is the only output?
[08:10] <yuri__> Yeah.
[08:10] <yuri__> Besides the key above that eplaining about the captial text and errors.
[08:10] <yuri__> *explaining.
[08:11] <KeithWeisshar> when will ubuntu 12.04 be released
[08:11] <yuri__> lol
[08:11] <z3r0d3rp> multiply can you boot into a live dist to see what's actually where?
[08:12] <z3r0d3rp> because the fastest way might be to chroot into your box and reinstall grub
[08:12] <Starminn> How can I backup my GPG/SSH data so I can use it still once I make a fresh install of Ubuntu 12.04?
[08:12] <Multiply> z3r0d3rp: It's a virtual machine, and I can't seem to get it to boot from any of my iso files.
[08:12] <z3r0d3rp> if that doesn't work you might need to fix other things via chroot
[08:12] <_r00t_> Happy Ubuntu Day
[08:12] <iceroot_> yuri__: "sudo dpkg --configure -a"
[08:13] <z3r0d3rp> multiply if it's vmware you can boot a live dist and mount the image as a drive
[08:13] <dArKd3ViL> is it out yet?
[08:13] <KeithWeisshar> will 12.04 be released later today?
[08:13] <z3r0d3rp> I'm not sure if you can do that in virtualbox
[08:13] <ikonia> dArKd3ViL: no, or it would be on the web page, think it through
[08:13] <Multiply> z3r0d3rp: It is. Can I do that from the webinterface?
[08:13] <yuri__> exit status 127.
[08:13] <z3r0d3rp> not sure
[08:14] <z3r0d3rp> you might have to do it in vmware workstation
[08:14] <pawdro> @OPS - i suggest placing some note about release moment of Pangolin :) users' flood is coming ;]
[08:14] <dArKd3ViL> i am just playing with irc bots here, if there are any :P
[08:14] <z3r0d3rp> and use a network connection to mount the drive
[08:14] <ikonia> dArKd3ViL: well don't
[08:14] <xuserx> hi
[08:14] <Multiply> z3r0d3rp: It's a vSphere instance I assume
[08:15] <Multiply> Is there no way, I can solve it from the bash-line to just get in?
[08:15] <z3r0d3rp> hmm I haven't actually had to do what you are doing
[08:15] <Multiply> And then run the grub installer
[08:15] <z3r0d3rp> you don't have a bash prompt
[08:15] <Multiply> I do.
[08:15] <z3r0d3rp> that is a grub rescue prompt
[08:15] <z3r0d3rp> you have bash?
[08:15] <Multiply> Well, grub's simple one
[08:15] <yuri__> My bash disappeared along with the rest of my core files.
[08:15] <z3r0d3rp> well the problem is that it's not finding your kernel image
[08:15] <z3r0d3rp> so either it's not there
[08:15] <z3r0d3rp> which is probably the problem
[08:15] <Multiply> I think I'm setting the root wrong.
[08:15] <z3r0d3rp> or the cfg is wrong
[08:16] <Bagels> How can I attach a script to my Unity bar?
[08:16] <xuserx> when will be ubuntu 12.04 relased?
[08:16] <yuri__> All my kernel stuff is still in my boot directory.
[08:16] <ikonia> xuserx: at some point during the day
[08:16] <ikonia> yuri__: your kernel should be in /boot
[08:16] <Multiply> z3r0d3rp: Can I change the config from here?
[08:16] <xuserx> today?
[08:16] <xuserx> :-D
[08:16] <yuri__> ikonia: All of it is. the initrd, the config and the vmlinuz.
[08:17] <ikonia> yuri__: correct, that's where it should be
[08:17] <z3r0d3rp> I dunno Multiply unless you can figure out a way to mount the drive in vmware and access it from another vm I don't know how to help
[08:17] <z3r0d3rp> perhaps someone else is better with a rescue prompt
[08:17] <Dragos29> who is from romania??
[08:18] <xuserx> im from romania
[08:18] <Bagels> I have a script I can run by double-clicking, but how can I make it so I can just run it from my Unity bar?
[08:18] <Multiply> z3r0d3rp: It's okay. :) Well, I get it to sorta boot. It says it tries to mount /dev/ to /root/dev but fails. I don't know if that's a good or bad thing tho
[08:18] <z3r0d3rp> I know that it's possible in vmware workstation but I am not sure of the specifics
[08:18] <Dragos29> poti sa ma ajuti?
[08:18] <Multiply> It should be possible, but it didn't seem to work earlier.
[08:19] <Multiply> Anyone else familiar with grubs resque prompt?
[08:19] <z3r0d3rp> what version did you update?
[08:20] <Multiply> From 10.4 I assume, and up.
[08:20] <Multiply> First update went fine, tho.
[08:20] <goschtl> hi need help in configuering my network in a ubuntu server.... i have two network cards the first is configured via the install process in works fine.... now i try to configure my second
[08:20] <goschtl> but it does not work
[08:21] <goschtl> can i paste my /etc/network/interfaces
[08:21] <yuri__> Well, I'm going to assume that my system is a lost cause and take off for the night. Hopefully later today I can get 1204 LTS and in the meantime I will hope the power doesn't go out here. ;) Night.
[08:21] <z3r0d3rp> yeah I gotta call it a night
[08:21] <nicon`> Hello :-) Is there any informations when can I expect new ubuntu 12.04 in download?
[08:22] <ikonia> nicon`: no
[08:22] <SunTsu> !outyet
[08:22] <z3r0d3rp> good luck Multiply, if you have vmware workstation installed look up the procedure for mounting a network drive
[08:22] <schultza> really? today!?
[08:22] <z3r0d3rp> first create a new vm locally, then mount the network image
[08:23] <z3r0d3rp> then chroot and troubleshoot from there
[08:23]  * z3r0d3rp winks, this is why you always make backups right?
[08:23] <z3r0d3rp> gnight
[08:24] <Multiply> z3r0d3rp: Thanks.
[08:27] <goblog> hallo all .. is there a new i915 driver?
[08:28] <goblog> I think the old one is minting my laptop badly
[08:28] <goblog> it's so so hot
[08:29] <vak123> am I going to be kicked from channel is ask "when?"
[08:29] <ikonia> vak123: no, but the answer is "no set time"
[08:29] <nicon`> ikonia: you've got some serious complexes :-)
[08:29] <vak123> ikonia: oah...
[08:29] <SunTsu> Maybe somebody should mention !outyet in /topic
[08:29] <ikonia> SunTsu: no-one reads the topic,
[08:30] <vak123> ikonia: i do!
[08:30] <ikonia> vak123: clearly you do'nt as it says "12.04 questions in the ubuntu+1 channel, not here"
[08:30] <paulus68> nicon`: Ikonia doesn't have complexes he's one of the backbones of Ubuntu support over the years that I use ubuntu
[08:30] <SunTsu> ikonia: then we're not off worse if it's mentioned there ;)
[08:31] <nicon`> paulus68: as I use Ubuntu over the years I didn't need support, so I don't care, sorry :-)
[08:31] <nicon`> (so I don't care who he is)*
[08:31] <n1gz> backtrack is where its at
[08:31] <schultza> no we dont... we just want to talk to all these fine ppl here and ask all kinds of questions.... im kidding/playing
[08:32] <vak123> ikonia: this is true, but this channel should know when it "dies" better :)
[08:32] <ikonia> n1gz: that's offtopic here, so please keep to Ubuntu support
[08:32] <SunTsu> nicon`: you were told that you're being rude. There are two ways to react to that: apologize or keep on being rude. You chose to do the latter and now complain about the consequences in a different channel you were told to discuss it. Well...
[08:32] <ikonia> SunTsu: let it go please, it's pointless.
[08:32] <nicon`> :-)
[08:32] <paulus68> nicon`: if you don't need support why are you here then ?
[08:32] <nicon`> paulus68: to ask about release? :-)
[08:33] <nicon`> Because it's kinda important for me can I except it in one hour, or ten hours? :-)
[08:33] <ikonia> nicon`: great, you've got your answer, so problem solved.
[08:33] <mathews> !12.04
[08:33] <paulus68> nicon`: no need to ask about the release as akonia mentioned previously it will come out sometime today
[08:33] <ikonia> paulus68: he's got the answer, so it's all sorted, lets not drag it on
[08:33] <paulus68> nicon`: 26/04/2012
[08:33] <nicon`> ...
[08:33] <paulus68> ikonia: got you
[08:33] <ikonia> paulus68: thank you
[08:34] <nicon`> paulus68: did you read what I wrote? I know it's today, thanks for informations.
[08:34] <dataviruset> 12:04 today, I hope :D
[08:34] <nicon`> dataviruset: the question is: which time zone ;-)
[08:34] <ikonia> there is no question as there is no set time
[08:35] <dataviruset> nicon`: Ah, yes :D
[08:36] <aditya> ubuntu is released when everything is verified to be working, There is no set time
[08:37] <alex--> I did sudo add-apt-repository ppa:cooperjona/nitrotasks && sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get install nitrotasks
[08:38] <mathews> go to www.ubuntu.com and keep pressing f5!!!!
[08:38] <_r00t_> Last day to support 11.10 ! No more palming off questions to #ubuntu+1 :)
[08:38] <alex--> but when i do apt-get update i get:            W: Ophalen van http://ppa.launchpad.net/cooperjona/nitrotasks/ubuntu/dists/natty/main/source/Sources is mislukt  404  Not Found                  W: Ophalen van http://ppa.launchpad.net/cooperjona/nitrotasks/ubuntu/dists/natty/main/binary-i386/Packages is mislukt  404  Not Found                    E: Some index files failed to download. They have been ignored, or old ones used instead.
[08:38] <aditya> insted of ubuntu.com try http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/releases/12.04/
[08:39] <Multiply> I'm stuck at grub bash-like line editing prompt.. I'm on a virtual server, and I think I got it to include my iso as a CD. How do I boot on the CD?
[08:39] <ikonia> aditya: no, do NOT post that
[08:40] <Tanvir> When 12.04 will be available to download?
[08:41] <pengw> I want to ask the same question
[08:41] <Tanvir> It's already 14:04 here. :-P
[08:41] <pengw> it is 20:41 here
[08:41] <mathews> Tanvir, after it get uploaded!
[08:41] <dataviruset> 10:41 here :)
[08:41] <aditya> 14:11 here
[08:41] <Tanvir> I know it's still 22:41 of 25th in Tahiti. LOL
[08:41] <Tanvir> But we are not counting on Tahiti I think.. :-P
[08:42] <pengw> 20:41 in New Zealand :-P
[08:42] <mathews> I am from Qatar and the time is 11:42:21
[08:42] <fl1bbl3> I am from somewhere that can use www.timeanddate.com
[08:42] <Tanvir> Pengw, you are about to say goodbye to 26th! o.O
[08:42] <Ztane> hehe new zealanders likely to have to wait until tomorrow?
[08:42] <waiting> wow, it's only 10:45 here
[08:42] <killfoo_> where do i get a torrent to download it?
[08:43] <pengw> yes
[08:43] <mathews> let us readjust the cushion and sit back
[08:43] <alex--> anyone?
[08:43] <pengw> so  they count on which time ???
[08:43] <mathews> U S time I think...they are sleeping there?
[08:44] <fl1bbl3> its like 04:43 in the US
[08:44] <Tanvir> Mathews, whatever.. geeks don't sleep much. :-P
[08:44] <ikonia> look - there is no set time, it doesn't matter what time it is for you - there is no set time, so just wait
[08:44] <fl1bbl3> whats the rush?
[08:44] <pengw> South Africa ?
[08:44] <ikonia> if you miss the release by 5 minutes, the world will not end
[08:44] <fl1bbl3> it will be like the beta with some minor changes
[08:44] <fl1bbl3> big deal
[08:44] <waiting> 5 minutes! Noooooo!
[08:45] <Tanvir> Ikonia, no one is worrying. :-)
[08:45] <Tanvir> Don't spoil the fun. :-P
[08:45] <ikonia> when it is released there will be an announcment, please just sit tight and wait for the anouncment
[08:45] <pengw> how about they just name the bate 2 as final and release it
[08:45] <ikonia> Tanvir: it's a support channel, this stuff is of no value
[08:45] <aditya> a lot has changed since beta 2
[08:45] <mathews> Its amazing that people loves Ubuntu the most! Even they couldn't wait.
[08:45] <aditya> so just walt and relax
[08:45] <pawdro> lets have positive attitude, clock is ticking and on distrowatch there is no ubuntu "12.04 LTS beta", but 'ubuntu 12.04 LTS', so maybe things going right way ;]
[08:46] <Arnold> As soon as it IS out, #ubuntu will be supporting 12.04 too.
[08:46] <alvesjnr> hi all. My Ubuntu is with a problem. I cannot login, it shows an error about .ICEauthority
[08:46] <hudeki> Can I just upgrade from beta with dist-upgrade?
[08:46] <alvesjnr> any Idea?
[08:46] <ikonia> hudeki: sure
[08:46] <_r00t_> hudeki: apparently yes
[08:46] <mathews> alvesjnr, post it clearly and with details
[08:47] <Tanvir> Ikonia, I aware of that. :-) *expects flexibility*
[08:47] <alex--> but when i do apt-get update i get:            W: Ophalen van http://ppa.launchpad.net/cooperjona/nitrotasks/ubuntu/dists/natty/main/source/Sources is mislukt  404  Not Found                  W: Ophalen van http://ppa.launchpad.net/cooperjona/nitrotasks/ubuntu/dists/natty/main/binary-i386/Packages is mislukt  404  Not Found                    E: Some index files failed to download. They have been ignored, or old ones used instead.
[08:47] <pawdro> alvesjnr, join #ubuntu+1 for Pangolin help
[08:47] <ikonia> alex--: that PPA is not found/no-longer exists
[08:47] <alex--> omgubuntu.co.uk says
[08:47] <pengw> PPA was down
[08:47] <alex--> was or is?
[08:47] <pengw> is
[08:47] <alvesjnr> When I try to log int it pops-up: "Error: could not update .ICEauthority"
[08:48] <ikonia> alex--: omgubuntu does not monitor or control PPA's
[08:48] <ikonia> alex--: there is no natty package in that repo
[08:49] <mathews> Pls dont just add PPAs with your eyes closed. Once I did from OMG then I lost the system.
[08:49] <mathews> He just wants to fill up his blogs with something.
[08:50] <ilf> is there a release channel?
[08:50] <alex--> ikonia: so how to fix it?
[08:50] <mathews> ilf, #ubuntu+1
[08:50] <DJones> !party > ilf
[08:50] <ikonia> alex--: contact the person who owns that PPA and ask him to put a natty package together
[08:51] <alex--> ah
[08:51] <Vergudo> Hi!  I  want to design a fork of Ubuntu that discourages negros from  using it
[08:51] <alex--> how can i remove the ppa?
[08:51] <Vergudo> is this allowed?
[08:51] <mathews> Vergudo, racism not allowed here.Pls mind your words.
[08:52] <SunTsu> yay, k-line active, thanks Freenode staff!
[08:52] <holmescn> alex:remove list in /etc/apt/source.list
[08:52] <angelo> hello
[08:53] <Vergudo> sorry mathews
[08:53] <kjs_> when is ubuntu out?
[08:53] <Vergudo> that is why I said negros and not niggers
[08:53] <Vergudo> I won't do it again
[08:53] <kjs_> Vergudo: not cool
[08:53] <Vergudo> what?
[08:53] <Vergudo> negro means black
[08:53] <Vergudo> it is not a racial slur
[08:54] <mathews> Ubuntu has no race and it is for the entire world!
[08:54] <Slartibart> I'm using (trying to) Gnome and the 12.04 beta after upgrading yesterday. But now nothing from my ~/Desktop(local language equivalent) is showing anymore =[. The local lang Desktop folder that was working for 11.10 is still there, so I'm wondering if anyone can tell me what has changed?
[08:54] <pengw> yes Ubuntu is no race
[08:54] <Valtam> mathews]$ hes trolling pay no attention
[08:54] <Valtam> he wants a reply
[08:54] <Moon_Doggy> umm
[08:54] <kjs_> Vergudo don't be facetious
[08:55] <mathews> silence makes nothing!
[08:55] <trask> party time in here?
[08:55] <ikonia> trask: no
[08:55] <DJones> They've been klined a 2nd time, just ignore it
[08:55] <killfoo_> trask: no
[08:55]  * elijah is getting his party time on!
[08:56]  * elijah just checked for updates like a kid on Christmas
[08:56] <mathews> Slartibart, there are issues with upgrading....mostly the community not suggests it.Wait to release the 12.04 and do some updates and see.
[08:56] <alex--> lol
[08:57] <trask> so no release today?
[08:57] <Moon_Doggy> isn't the word "ubuntu" a african word, and since most of Africa is black wouldn't that mean that ubuntu is aswell?
[08:57] <ikonia> Moon_Doggy: drop it please.
[08:57] <GhostWolf>  :)
[08:57] <anon^_^> strange issue, anyone on 10.04 and started to experience random freezes in the past 10 days
[08:57] <Moon_Doggy> it was just a joke
[08:57] <ikonia> Moon_Doggy: ok, then please don't
[08:58] <llutz> Moon_Doggy: where the funny part?
[08:58] <anon^_^> wonder if there was a bad kernel update, or something else
[08:58] <ikonia> anon^_^: nope
[08:58] <Slartibart> mathews: Ok, will do. Thanks.
[08:58] <mathews> Moon_Doggy, even the login sound too from their favorite instrument.
[08:58] <bobbyaldol> Hey I wonder what the heck is grub
[08:58] <n1gz> apt-get
[08:58] <llutz> bobbyaldol: a bootmanager
[08:58] <ila> grand unified boot loader
[08:58] <elijah> Moon_Doggy: quick tip I learned a while ago - Use 'a' preceding words that start with a consonant and 'an' preceding words that start with a vowel!
[08:58] <kjs_> is ubuntu out today still ?
[08:59] <llutz> grand "unfinished" ...
[08:59] <bobbyaldol> ok. That makes sense . But will it ever stop to work
[08:59]  * elijah hopes Ubuntu release is delayed, needs some more fine tuning imo.
[08:59] <bobbyaldol> because I have a message saying that it failed
[08:59] <Hatrix76> I need a fart as a login sound
[09:00] <ikonia> kjs_: yeah, it will be out at some point today
[09:00] <ikonia> Hatrix76: find one and set it up then
[09:00] <mueslee> will 12.4 final be released today?
[09:00] <mathews> go to www.ubuntu.com and keep your finger on F5
[09:00] <ikonia> Moon_Doggy: yes
 you have a strange taste for music
[09:00] <Hatrix76> ikonia, better yet, I should record one ... than it's really personal and I don't follow the crowd
[09:01] <ikonia> Hatrix76: don't really care, it's not a support question, do what you want
[09:01] <Moon_Doggy> ikonia, ?
[09:01] <ikonia> Moon_Doggy: sorry, that was for mueslee
[09:01] <Moon_Doggy> oh
[09:02] <mueslee> neat!
[09:02] <mueslee> when? :)
[09:02] <Moon_Doggy> ikonia, speaking of support questions, have you ever use xmodmap?
[09:02] <mueslee> my old harddisk just died
[09:02] <mueslee> best time for a new system
[09:02] <ikonia> Moon_Doggy: very rarley, I don't have cause to normally
[09:02] <SteveBell> hi all, can I already update to ubuntu 12? not seeing anything in software updates...
[09:02] <ikonia> SteveBell: then no, wait for the updates to be available
[09:03] <SteveBell> ok, should they be available today? if so about what time?
[09:03] <ikonia> SteveBell: no set time
[09:03] <walidvb> hi guys! i am told by a friend that my xorg.conf has the correct graphic card, but that "nvidia settings identifies as" another card.
[09:04] <Womkes> New ubuntu coming today right?
[09:04] <SteveBell> kk, will try to be more patient :)
[09:04] <Womkes> I hope it is released when I get home from work
[09:04] <Womkes> Will launch up a vbox and try it out :)
[09:04] <Moon_Doggy> well I remapped capslock to be the left "alt" key and I succeed but I can't use my newly mapped key in combination with another key like alt-tab
[09:05] <mathews> !offtopic
[09:08] <walidvb> what does that mean, how can i check, and how do i change that?
[09:10] <lxgrx> why are so many mirrors on https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+archivemirrors a week behind? is that normal?
[09:10] <makara> what time today Pangolin available?
[09:11] <xsl> guys how can i correct the problem with JAVA ?
[09:11] <xsl> firefox disables java
[09:12] <weox> hello .. how can i monitor http connection on our machine ?? (i want see detial what send and what get it !!)
[09:12] <ikonia> weox: view the http logs
[09:13] <weox> ikonia : http logs ?? i want monitor all possible data .. like post method get method and ... !!
[09:14] <ikonia> weox: yes, so you can see that in the httpd logs
[09:14] <weox> ikonia : where is that log ?
[09:15] <aditya> /var/log/
[09:16] <ikonia> weox: your apache logs
[09:17] <Mayazcherquoi> Umm, I know this may sound stupid or something but it's really all I can think of at the moment. How can I force Linux to send power through my VGA port on my computer, so it recognises that my second monitor is actually connected?
[09:17] <walidvb> hi guys! i am told by a friend that my xorg.conf has the correct graphic card, but that "nvidia settings identifies as" another card.
[09:17] <walidvb> what does that mean, how can i check, and how do i change that?
[09:17] <Womkes> I have a strange problem with my work PC running @ Ubuntu. Whenever I want to copy & paste something from NetBeans to Google Chrome nothing happen. It works fine from Kate to Chrome or NetBeans to rekonq. But not from NetBeans to Chrome. Anybody got any ideas what is the matter?
[09:19] <somsip> Womkes: Where are you copying it to? Address bar? Document in Google Docs?
[09:19] <Womkes> somsip, into a from, copying to address bar works fine
[09:19] <Womkes> form
[09:19] <alvesjnr> for an unknow reason, after a reboot my user loses the permission to write on his own home directory (???). It was quite easy to fixe, but any of you have some Idea about why did it happen?
[09:19] <ammar__> hello.
[09:20] <ammar__> my question is that, that I am currently on ubuntu 11.10 (current main OS) and I want to update to 12.04. I have installed virtual box for 11.10. So will my virtual box still work if I upgrade my OS to 12.04?
[09:20] <somsip> Womkes: ah - not had, but unable to copy from Google Docs as easy as I would like. Probably not related to your issue
[09:20] <pengw> ammar good question , it should work i think
[09:20] <Womkes> I think it happened after one of the Chrome updates about 2 weeks ago
[09:21] <Womkes> suddenly cannot copy&paste from NetBeans to Chrome anymore
[09:21] <Womkes> really strange
[09:21] <ammar__> so can I update it manually?
[09:21] <ammar__> if it doesn't work?
[09:21] <Womkes> ammar__, it will work fine
[09:21] <a_b0y> why don't they just release Ubuntu tomorrow since it is not even ready yet today
[09:21] <antnash_> Alrght guys. I'm trying to set a scheduled reboot for 6am. I've done sudo crontab -e, then added 0 6 * * * reboot. It's not working, what am I doing wrong?
[09:21] <pengw> there is no guarantee
[09:21] <ammar__> great :)
[09:22] <ammar__> also one more question
[09:22] <Womkes> ah, sorry ammar__ I read it wrong
[09:22] <RiMMER> why do you guys think it's not ready?
[09:22] <LorD_DDooM> ammar__: Your VirtualBox VM should work, if they are stored in /home partition (.virtualboxVM).
[09:22] <Womkes> I thought you had 11.04 in vbox environment
[09:22] <Womkes> and you want to pdate that one
[09:22] <Womkes> yeah I dont know about question
[09:22] <Womkes> that is somethign you have to test yeah
[09:22] <ammar__> ah alright.
[09:23] <shookees> Hoi everyone
[09:23] <Womkes> I am currently running the latest beta for 12.04 in a vbox environment on my windows7 pc
[09:23] <Womkes> that works fine
[09:23] <ammar__> my other question is what is LTS? and when is Ubuntu 12.04 going to be released I mean out of beta.
[09:23] <LorD_DDooM> But only if you run in normal (user mode), VMs with root priviliges are stored elsewhere and mioght be deleted with the update (this is assuming /home is ona  different partition)
[09:24] <a_b0y> in the global world of computers and the internet when they say April 26 most would think April 26 midnight at their headquarter's time
[09:24] <Womkes> LTS = Long Term Support
[09:24] <Womkes> means that version will be supported for 18 months
[09:24] <Womkes> but for 12.04 that has been increased to 5 years
[09:24] <ammar__> @Womkes. I mean to say that I am on ubuntu. (it is my primary OS) and I am running virtualbox to run XP in it
[09:24] <ammar__> thats cool
[09:25] <Womkes> Usually businesses use the LTS version in their organizations
[09:25] <ammar__> so when is it ganna be released? I mean when is it ganna be out of beta stage?
[09:25] <Womkes> e.g. in the company I work for we only upgrade from LTS to LTS
[09:25] <Womkes> nothing in between
[09:25] <Womkes> Today ammar__
[09:25] <Womkes> 12.04 will be released somewhere today
[09:25] <ammar__> :D thats awesome!
[09:25] <textk> ubuntu canonical team is on UTC - 7 ?
[09:26] <ammar__> one more question.
[09:26] <Womkes> As far as virtual box goes, just check the vbox website/community for any issues relating 12.04 support
[09:26] <RiMMER> UTC-1
[09:26] <hayden_ru_> well they never give you exact time do they
[09:26] <RiMMER> or so
[09:26] <ammar__> if I update to ubuntu LTS. will I be able to update again to other non LTS versions?
[09:26] <Womkes> yeah sure
[09:26] <hayden_ru_> mirrors are probably syncing now
[09:26] <Womkes> you can do a dist_upgrade whenever you want
[09:27] <ammar__> this is awesome!
[09:27] <Womkes> The easiest way to look at it that LTS versions are like major versions and non-LTS minor version like service packs for windows
[09:27] <Womkes> not exactly but the general idea
[09:28] <SunTsu> ammar__: you can, of course, LTS just means that you a) don't need to upgrade to every release because you'll receive bugfixes for a longer time and b) you can upgrade to the next LTS directly
[09:28] <Womkes> for businesses with more long term planning for their IT infrastructure it is better to use the LTS
[09:29] <ammar__> so do u guys know the release time?
[09:29] <cdoktor19> hi
[09:29] <Womkes> You can plan a bit more, provides stability that you know that the version you will use is being supported for hte next 5 years
[09:29] <a_b0y> so lunbuntu doesn't have ltr?
[09:29] <Womkes> Dunno ammar__ somewhere today, think should be somewhere in the next couple of hours
[09:29] <Womkes> mirrors are ready
[09:29] <nina666> hi... i've installed vmware player on my machine, but i cannot run it... when I click on the icon, it says several modules need to be compiled and loaded into the kernel, then when i click on install, after asking for the root pass, it tries these modules: 1.Virtual Machine Monitor, 2.Virtual Network Device, 3.Vmware Blocking Filesystem, 4. Virtual Machine Communication Interface, 5.VMCI Sockets. and numbers 2,4 and 5 fail, and it displays this error: Un
[09:29] <nina666> able to start services: See log for file.... any clues whats the problem?
[09:29] <Womkes> in the netherlands we have a company that has set up a 3.2 Gbit/sec mirror
[09:29] <SunTsu> Womkes: my parents get LTS, too, less work for me, less need to visit them for upgrades ;)
[09:30] <Womkes> https://weblog.bit.nl/2012/04/25/voorbereidingen-van-de-nl-mirror-op-ubuntu-12-04-precise-pangolin/
[09:30] <Womkes> its in dutch
[09:30] <Hoyt> nina666: did you install the kernel headers
[09:30] <Womkes> but they will host one of the major ubuntu mirrors :)
[09:30] <nina666> Hoyt: how should I look for them?
[09:31] <Hoyt> nina666: sudo apt-get install linux-headers-`uname -r`
[09:32] <a_b0y> how do i make a windows boot usb in linux?
[09:32] <Hoyt> a_b0y: use grub4dos
[09:32] <a_b0y> ok i'll search for it
[09:33] <Hoyt> a_b0y: no , sorry i misunderstand your question , it can only boot some DOS images and linux
[09:33] <gorski> will i be able to upgrade from lucid to precise today?
[09:33] <nina666> Hoyt: this is what i get: http://pastebin.com/wsWDZJDE
[09:33] <ammar__> @gorski yes you will
[09:33] <Hoyt> a_b0y: use VMware / VIrtualbox , and install windows inside , make your bootable usb
[09:33] <gorski> ok, tnx
[09:34] <nina666> Hoyt: which apparently the headers are there...
[09:34] <a_b0y> hoyt, i have an iso image of windows and i want to make a bootable usb with it
[09:35] <a_b0y> 3
[09:35] <ammar__> hey
[09:35] <Hoyt> a_b0y: i never tried to make a bootable windows installer , usually I use winpe + ghost
[09:35] <ammar__> would I require a CD to burn the image? or can I like directly update?
[09:35] <nina666> Hoyt: and this is what vmware log shows me: http://pastebin.com/upteF7QH
[09:35] <Hoyt> nina666: sudo apt-get install monodoc-browser
[09:35] <yuni> I m using 11.10 ubuntu, after a power failure, I am seeing this, BusyBox V1.18.4 (Ubuntu 1:1.18.4-2ubuntu2) built in shell(ash) enter help for a list of commands (initramfs)
[09:36] <yuni> please help
[09:36] <ammar__> @yuni
[09:37] <ammar__> boot into your windows
[09:37] <yuni> ok
[09:37] <ammar__> open it fully and then restart your computer
[09:37] <tiago_alves> Hi everyone
[09:37] <ammar__> this will fix the issue
[09:37] <tiago_alves> Does anyone know when 12.04 will be released?
[09:37] <yuni> how i will, open it
[09:38] <ammar__> open what?
 I m using 11.10 ubuntu, after a power failure, I am seeing this, BusyBox V1.18.4 (Ubuntu 1:1.18.4-2ubuntu2) built in shell(ash) enter help for a list of commands (initramfs)
[09:38] <yuni> help
[09:38] <Hoyt> nina666: does VMware provide you a compile log file ?
[09:39] <ammar__> @yuni boot into your windows OS and run chkdsk
[09:39] <ammar__> after that restart your computer
[09:39] <bindi> ammar__: you are falsely assuming he has windows
[09:39] <ammar__> and run ubuntu
[09:39] <walidvb> how can i check if dri is loaded? or check the gpu usage?
[09:39] <yuni> dear I m not using windows
[09:39] <Hoyt> yuni: do you have any other bootable media
[09:39] <ammar__> woops
[09:39] <yuni> yes
[09:39] <yuni> live cd
[09:40] <Hoyt> yuni: try boot with recover mode , and see what you can get
[09:40] <Hoyt> yuni: and fix it laterly with your live cd
[09:41] <yuni> ok
[09:41] <MACscr> i have a headless ubuntu system that im running as a home server. Im intermittedly getting having issues access it on the lan for 15 to 30 seconds at a time every hour or so. Im running version 11.10. Suggestions on where i should start looking? Could some sort of power management setting be affecting things?
[09:41] <nydel> i am using a laptop & an hdmi out -- is there a way to make them behave as two separate workspaces?
[09:41] <yuni> thanks
[09:41] <Hoyt> MACscr: what service do you run remotely ?
[09:42] <MACscr> well im connected to it through a web interface for deluge, ssh, and samba
[09:42] <MACscr> during these short outages, its not even responding to ping
[09:42] <shomon> hi, I have a laptop which for days now has given very strange errors: seems it could be hardware but I can't figure out what. It boots from live usb, but with crazy graphics artefacts, even in the bios screen
[09:42] <shomon> if I plug in something to a USB slot I also get errors
[09:43] <shomon> and if I go to an external monitor, the graphics mess doesn't change
[09:43] <a_b0y> hoyt do you know a program like "make startup disk" that works for making a windows install usb?
[09:43] <Hoyt> a_b0y: definitely not working
[09:43] <MonkeyDust> MACscr  a wireless remote connection?
[09:43] <MACscr> MonkeyDust: gbit lan
[09:43] <Hoyt> a_b0y: if you really want a bootable usb installer of windows , you should consider winpe , but I never tried that
[09:43] <fsgxdroid0> hello, i have problems getting 3d to work with ubuntu 12.04, glxgears outputs following error:
[09:43] <fsgxdroid0> X Error of failed request:  BadRequest (invalid request code or no such operation)
[09:43] <a_b0y> ok
[09:43] <fsgxdroid0> how can i reconfigure my graphics card?
[09:44] <diimdeep> hello, i have permission configuration issue http://serverfault.com/questions/382958/proftpd-configuration-mod-auth-file-cross-folders-with-different-rights-in-group/382968
[09:44] <Hoyt> fsgxdroid0: what cards do you have ?
[09:44] <fsgxdroid0> intel 3000
[09:44] <electronics-cat> o.o
[09:45] <a_b0y> there are over 10 times more people on here than on the Linux Mint help, but there are more people helping in the mint chat
[09:45] <fsgxdroid0> Hoyt: i think the problem is that i swapped my hdd to another machine which had radeon card
[09:45] <fsgxdroid0> and now, in my main machine the 3d won't work anymore
[09:46] <Hoyt> fsgxdroid0: maybe sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg ?
[09:46] <fsgxdroid0> Hoyt: i'm thinking that is there someway to start graphics driver detection again?
[09:47]  * xzcvczx wonders how long before one would get banned for making a script asking "is it out yet" every minute in here :P
[09:47] <fsgxdroid0> Hoyt: ok, i tried that command but it won't return nothing... should it popup some kind of dialog screen?
[09:47] <Hoyt> no
[09:48] <nina666> Hoyt: yes, here: http://pastebin.com/upteF7QH
[09:48] <Hoyt> fsgxdroid0: logout and login again
[09:48] <fsgxdroid0> ok
[09:48] <Hoyt> fsgxdroid0: maybe reboot
[09:48] <xzcvczx> or ctrl-alt-backspace
[09:49] <Ben64> xzcvczx: that doesn't work
[09:49] <fsgxdroid0> Hoyt: it didn't help
[09:49] <xzcvczx> wow, i am out of date
[09:49] <fsgxdroid0> same thing...
[09:49] <Ben64> fsgxdroid0: what gpu
[09:49] <fsgxdroid0> one moment
[09:49] <xzcvczx> sudo service lightdm restart?
[09:50] <Hoyt> restarting lightdm will restart X as well ?
[09:50] <f0x> http://releases.ubuntu.com/12.04/ubuntu-12.04-desktop-amd64.iso.torrent
[09:50] <shomon> if I upgrade my ubuntu, my laptop won't even work...
[09:50] <shomon> so I'll just have to watch screen captures of other people's new ubuntu versions
[09:50] <f0x> released everbyody
[09:50] <shomon> "unable to enumerate usb bla bla" - what could be broken?
[09:50] <xzcvczx> Hoyt: err, should do?
[09:50] <Hoyt> xzcvczx: i don't knwo , that's why i'm asking
[09:51] <lost-man> hi
[09:51] <lost-man> 12.04 released?
[09:51] <f0x> http://releases.ubuntu.com/12.04/ubuntu-12.04-desktop-amd64.iso
[09:51] <xzcvczx> Hoyt: well thats the parent process that x is running under (well was back in the gdm/xdm/kdm days
[09:51] <electronics-cat> rofl
[09:51] <LordSputnik> :P
[09:51] <fsgxdroid0> Hoyt: http://pastebin.com/z241a772
[09:52] <Multiply> After reinstalling grub, and rebooting, I can no longer use the server console.. It just sits there, flashing an underscore. I can however, ssh in, and stuff. Why is this?
[09:52] <lost-man> I don't see the 12.04 on the download page: http://www.ubuntu.com/download/ubuntu/download
[09:52] <LordSputnik> it's not released yet :P
[09:52] <Ben64> fsgxdroid0: looks like you have the correct driver already on
[09:52] <f0x> http://releases.ubuntu.com/12.04/
[09:52] <xzcvczx> Multiply: have you messed with the crontab?
[09:52] <Hoyt> fsgxdroid0: can you try *sudo service lightdm restart*
[09:52] <nitzs> so it's out on the mirrors yet?
[09:53] <xzcvczx> Multiply: err. not crontab
[09:53] <fsgxdroid0> yes, moment
[09:53] <Multiply> xzcvczx: I was about to say no xD
[09:53] <xzcvczx> Multiply: the thing that lists where to start a virtual terminal
[09:53] <xzcvczx> config file
[09:53] <LordSputnik> f0x: those iso images are from yesterday
[09:54] <Multiply> xzcvczx: I tried upgrading the system, but it failed at setting up grub, I assume. So I tried for 2 hours now, getting in, and when I finally got it right, I followed some instructions telling me to uninstall grub, and reinstall it. So I did.
[09:54] <LordSputnik> "25-Apr-2012 16:13"
[09:54] <xzcvczx> Multiply: although i assume you have tried alt-f1 through alt-f4
[09:54] <Multiply> Now it boots, but there's no server console
[09:54] <f0x> some of are from 26
[09:54] <Multiply> xzcvczx: I'll quitely go away, ashamed.
[09:54] <LordSputnik> yeah but they'll probably just be different versions of yesterday's daily
[09:54] <xzcvczx> Multiply: you do that :P
[09:54] <xzcvczx> Multiply: all good
[09:54] <LordSputnik> they'll announce the release when its out
[09:55] <Multiply> xzcvczx: Damn I feel stupid. Thanks.
[09:55] <xzcvczx> nah its a trap for those who don't know
[09:55] <Hoyt> nina666: you seems to be missing one package
[09:55] <Multiply> It sure is. xD
[09:55] <Multiply> But I guess most people getting to the server console knows?
[09:55] <jschall> torrents are working
[09:55] <hugol> hi i tried to install 12.04 but on boot computer freezes apparently after loading of nouveau drivers, what to do?
[09:55] <Multiply> Except, well, me. >_<
[09:55] <jschall> get on them and unlimit your upload
[09:55] <xzcvczx> Multiply: anyone who cares for multitasking does :P
[09:55] <nina666> Hoyt: yea and how I can figure out what is it...?
[09:56] <jschall> http://releases.ubuntu.com/precise/ubuntu-12.04-desktop-amd64.iso
[09:56] <Multiply> xzcvczx: Oh well, I am forever happy for the help! :D
[09:56] <shani0610> hello guys, I have freshly intalled ubuntu 11.04 and I have installed VLC on it, but when I have a movie loaded, the system logs off automatically... why so?
[09:56] <Multiply> xzcvczx: Can't believe I spent 2 hours getting thru grub bash tho >_<
[09:56] <nitzs> jschall: i get a 404 on that link.
[09:56] <xzcvczx> Multiply: yeah grub can be fun
[09:56] <Hoyt> nina666: can you list the dpkg -l | grep linux- | grep `uname -r`
[09:57] <jschall> http://releases.ubuntu.com/precise/ubuntu-12.04-desktop-amd64.iso.torrent
[09:57] <jschall> nitzs: oops
[09:57] <Multiply> xzcvczx: I ended up trying 3 different live CDs, to get in, and see what the /dev/sda was supposed to be.
[09:57] <peter32> Hi guys, I come from windows using excell and I would like to have a more automisable and costumisable setup for entering and retreiving data using ubuntu. What setup do you suggest I use? (I can also do some basic coding in python)
[09:57] <Hoyt> nina666: when you install kernel header for e.g 3.2.0-20 , you must install both linux-headers-3.2.0-20 and linux-headers-3.2.0-20-generic
[09:57] <Multiply> xzcvczx: When I finally got that, it took me 10 seconds to boot, from grub. >_<
[09:57] <Hoyt> nina666: otherwise you'll be missing some generated files
[09:57] <jschall> nitzs: slow to get started because it's not authorized on tracker yet
[09:57] <jschall> nitzs: but it works
[09:57] <xzcvczx> matt0572: it is a bit of a pity that the popular distros these days do not do well for teaching people the low level linux stuff
[09:58] <xzcvczx> Multiply: rather
[09:58] <LordSputnik> peter32: have you tried LibreOfficeCalc?
[09:58] <lost-man> So i can download the final from http://releases.ubuntu.com/12.04/ubuntu-12.04-desktop-i386.iso ?
[09:58] <nitzs> jschall: a 404 on that as well.
[09:58] <nina666> Hoyt: oh... didnt know that, ok let me try first... thanks
[09:58] <jschall> nitzs: i tested that one
[09:58] <Shape> xzcvczx: What do you mean teaching people? What's keeping the people from learning?
[09:58] <peter32> Can I use the terminal to input data in office calc?
[09:58] <ichilton> I just downloaded that one, but there doesn't seem to be an amd64 yet..
[09:58] <peter32> the shell i mean
[09:58] <Multiply> xzcvczx: I've been using debian/ubuntu for years, but stuff like this... never. >_<
[09:59] <xzcvczx> Shape: as opposed to something nutty like gentoo :P
[09:59] <LordSputnik> It would suprise me if they're the final, they were only modified at 9:28, which is about half an hour after people officially start work...
[09:59] <mathews> shani0610, see this thread http://askubuntu.com/search?q=system+logs+off+loading+VLC
[09:59] <Hoyt> why people don't just grab the daily build ? It's almost the same
[09:59] <xzcvczx> Shape: you start off up a kind of creek without a paddle :P
[09:59] <lost-man> none care
[09:59] <Hoyt> before official release of precise
[09:59]  * ManDay mumbles "So, it has begun..."
[09:59] <peter32> LordSputnik: Can I use the shell to input data in office calc?
[09:59] <shani0610> @mathews thanks mate...
[09:59] <Hoyt> peter32: what's the office calc ?
[10:00] <lost-man> Hoyt, you Talking me ?
[10:00] <Shape> xzcvczx: If people want to learn nothing is stopping them to do so. But expecting a total noob who just installed linux to start from scratch without being able to even surf the internet or play media is a bit too elitist.
[10:00] <xzcvczx> peter32: enter in csv import into application of choice?
[10:00] <Hoyt> lost-man: i'm more like broadcasting ...
[10:00] <LordSputnik> uh not that i know of (LibreOffice Calc)
[10:00] <nina666> Hoyt: ok so this is what i get: http://pastebin.com/TGD3hgTt
[10:00] <xzcvczx> Shape: thats how i learnt it.... and it taught me a lot (a lot of which admittedly i have forgotten)
[10:00] <peter32> i mean libreoffice calc
[10:01] <lost-man> Hoyt, So http://releases.ubuntu.com/12.04/ubuntu-12.04-desktop-i386.iso for standard?
[10:01] <xzcvczx> Shape: and i am more stating a fact... with gui's for everything people are less likely to dive deeper
[10:01] <Hoyt> lost-man: i guess
[10:01] <Shape> xzcvczx: Of course you will learn a lot. But the general elitist/linux view is that you have to be a car engineer to be allowed to drive a car.
[10:01] <LordSputnik> peter32: what are you trying to do with your data, and what format is it in?
[10:01] <xzcvczx> Shape: and i am not saying thats universal
[10:01] <mathews> lost-man, Pls dont post fake links and divert people from here.
[10:01] <xzcvczx> Shape: it couldn't hurt when you see someone who doesn't know how to change a tyre :P
[10:02] <xzcvczx> s/tyre/wheel/
[10:02] <peter32> Actually, I am applying for a job where I need to input data in excell. But I'd like to automise the input as much as possible
[10:02] <lost-man> mathews, Fake link? Is that fake link?
[10:02] <nimesh_accenture> i'm wondering , if I allocate memory using PMEM in Android , would i be able to access it in chrooted ubuntu?
[10:02] <smittix> heh
[10:02] <mathews> lost-man, try it and see!
[10:02] <Ben64> lost-man: it 404's, so yes
[10:03] <xzcvczx> peter32: well what form is the data in?
[10:03] <Ben64> or ... it did 404, works for me now
[10:03] <Shape> Yeah, but that's what makes society go. No person on this planet knows everything so that's why we specialize in things. If someone is a business man and does his job it would be silly to expect from him he knows what's going on in the system. He takes it for granted that others have done the checks just like when you go into an airplane you don't know anything of what's actually going on.
[10:03] <Hoyt> nina666: here's some crazy idea ,
[10:03] <Lint> ben64 it´s not 404, it´s 701MB ISO file
 :It can be in any format that excell can export
[10:03] <Ben64> it was 404
[10:03] <hayden_ru_> it isn't for me
[10:03] <lost-man> mathews, Ben64 i worked for me http://releases.ubuntu.com/12.04/ubuntu-12.04-desktop-i386.iso
[10:03] <mathews> lost-man, Ubuntu 12.04 not yet released.Pls wait!
[10:04] <Hoyt> nina666: you compile the vmware module yourself , and copy the .ko files to the right path, and do the depmod -a , and tell me what errors you see
[10:04] <Hoyt> right
[10:04] <Hoyt> it's out !
[10:04] <Ben64> yep, its out now
[10:04] <tarzeau_> downloading... what's the md5sum?
[10:04] <lost-man> mathews, Yeah waiting for it to see on the download page..... Dunno when
[10:04] <Hoyt> hah
[10:04] <ichilton> http://mirror.bytemark.co.uk/ubuntu-releases/12.04/
[10:04] <Hoyt> I've been waiting this for hours
[10:04] <tarzeau_> Hoyt: get a life
[10:05] <Ben64> http://releases.ubuntu.com/12.04/
[10:05] <Shape> The main page says it's still beta.
[10:05] <Hoyt> No , checkout the schedule
[10:05] <fsgxdroid0> Hoyt: i'm back... that "service lightdm restart" command caused crash, and desktop didn't appared .... i managed to restart my system by goint to another termina l(CTRL+ALT+F1) and restart my system manually
[10:05] <lost-man> Shape, Yeah
[10:05] <Hoyt> features are already freezed
[10:05] <mathews> lost-man, Yeah, we all waiting to download it but dont like to see the 404 error!
[10:05] <xzcvczx> Shape: meh i give up arguing with you as i agree with what you are saying. but as they say "a little knowledge can be dangerous" esspecially when you do "r{insert corect character here} -rf /" when you meant to do "r{insert correct character here} -rf ." (which i have done once by accident)
[10:05] <Hoyt> fsgxdroid0: so your desktop doesn't start anymore ?
[10:06] <hayden_ru_> there is no release on russian mirror though
[10:06] <vuth_> hi
[10:06] <fsgxdroid0> after restarting machine the desktop appared
[10:06] <lost-man> When you brows http://releases.ubuntu.com/12.04/ubuntu-12.04-desktop-i386.iso you get 404 ?
[10:06] <Hoyt> fsgxdroid0: how about glxgears ?
[10:06] <zyxd> http://releases.ubuntu.com/12.04/
[10:06] <vuth_> i thought ubuntu 12.10 is being released today
[10:06] <vuth_> i go to website and shows only 12.04 Beta
[10:06] <tarzeau_> vuth_: that'll happen 6 months later
[10:06] <xzcvczx> vuth_: thats october
[10:06] <l3d> how would i get  a theme i downloaded to work?
[10:06] <xzcvczx> vuth_: 12 = year 04 = month
[10:07] <fsgxdroid0> Hoyt: glxgears -> http://pastebin.com/NBr233gK
[10:07] <xzcvczx> hence 12.04 = april 2012
[10:07] <vuth_> ohh..wow i never knewthat lol
[10:07] <xzcvczx> and 12.10 = october 2012
[10:07] <hayden_ru_> http://mirror.anl.gov/pub/ubuntu-iso/CDs/12.04/
[10:07] <vuth_> thats awesome..but 12.04 is only beta?
[10:07] <RiMMER> http://releases.ubuntu.com/precise/
[10:07] <RiMMER> 12.04 OUT
[10:07] <hayden_ru_> US mirror has it
[10:07] <Myrtti> please don't post links, it's not out yet.
[10:07] <LordSputnik> vuth_: i only realised it yesterday
[10:07] <Myrtti> RiMMER: that includes you
[10:07] <walidvb_> hi, i'm having a hard time activating direct rendering for my nvidia gt430. I edited xorg.conf with load "dri"
[10:07] <vuth_> thanks rimmer
[10:07] <Hoyt> fsgxdroid0: let's check the log in /var/log/Xorg.0.log
[10:07] <yaroyaro> it will be out when the irc topic changes and the md5 are released
[10:07] <mathews> l3d, simply drag and drop the theme file to the theme window or follow the "how to install" file inside the theme folder.
[10:07] <irenicus09> hi when I make search google always shows me the localized version of google instead of english..how can I permanently make google english as default preferences?
[10:08] <lpq> hi, hopefully someone can help me
[10:08] <l3d> ty
[10:08] <Myrtti> !party
[10:08] <tero> irenicus09 www.google.com/ncr
[10:08] <lpq> i have a broken ubuntu installation
[10:08] <shomon> irenicus09, you can use duckduckgo to get a non filterbubbled internet
[10:08] <hugol> !Precise
[10:08] <xzcvczx> lpq: what happend that caused the broken installation?
[10:08] <lpq> uninstalled nvidia drivers
[10:08] <vuth_> if i installed 1204 final beta and when the final release is out will i have to download again? or will it update to final release for me?
[10:09] <lpq> then it hosed the system
[10:09] <xzcvczx> lpq: #define hosed
[10:09] <fsgxdroid0> Hoyt: http://pastebin.com/7AcG8eJZ
[10:09] <shomon> I asked before but got cut off: I have a laptop that shows lots of random graphics artefacts on boot and in the bios, on external monitors and if you bend the keyboard even...
[10:09] <lpq> i boot into ubuntu, the os immediately goes into powersave mode
[10:09] <Hoyt> hey , why no one read the release schedule ? in the last few days , only things like kernel / translation can suffer to change a lot
[10:09] <shomon> and if Iplug in usb it can't numerate it.
[10:09] <lpq> if i attempt to boot using recovery mode, the same result
[10:09] <mathews> irenicus09, there is an option below the search box as Google.com in English"
[10:09] <xzcvczx> lpq: laptop or?
[10:09] <shomon> what could be wrong with it? is it time for a new graphics card, or could it be some kind of other thing?
[10:10] <lpq> ubuntu boots in recovery, immediately goes into power save
[10:10] <lpq> xzcvczx, no, not a laptop
[10:10] <yassu> hi
[10:10] <xzcvczx> lpq: and i assume its not wakable?
[10:10] <Hoyt> fsgxdroid0: here (EE) GLX error: Can not get required symbols.
[10:10] <Hoyt> fsgxdroid0: your opengl library is corrupted , i guess
[10:10] <fsgxdroid0> alright
 hi
[10:11] <mathews> lpq, include as many details as possible in ur post
[10:11] <xzcvczx> lpq: or do you man that the monitor goes into powersave?
[10:11] <yassu> wat time is 12.04 comin out?
[10:11] <Ben64> fsgxdroid0: start up "jockey-gtk"
[10:11] <fsgxdroid0> Hoyt: do i need to recompile it or just using apt-get to reinstall?
[10:11] <lpq> xzcvczx, no user input will wake the screen
[10:11] <xzcvczx> yassu: when its ready
[10:11] <Myrtti> yassu: "today"
[10:11] <Shape> yassu http://releases.ubuntu.com/precise/
[10:11] <lpq> mouse, keyboard, nothing
[10:11] <shomon> maybe something shuold go in the topic about that
[10:11] <fsgxdroid0> Ben64: it says no drivers available for my system
[10:12] <xzcvczx> lpq: have you got a ubuntu cd handy?
[10:12] <Hoyt> fsgxdroid0: i don't know , did you installed any binary driver , e.g fglrx (ATI's) or nvidia's ?
[10:12] <lpq> yes
[10:12] <nitzs> shomon: what do you mean by numerate?
[10:12] <fsgxdroid0> Hoyt: yes
[10:13] <mathews> shomon, ur post missing many details....describe it well with version too
[10:13] <fsgxdroid0> Hoyt: probably, i need to get rid of those drivers from my system, but i don't know how
[10:13] <xzcvczx> Multiply: another hint if you didn't know for using the multiterm... from your gui you can use ctrl-alt-f1 through f6 typically and f7 will take you abck to your gui, if not keep trying higher f keys until you return to gui
[10:13] <Hoyt> fsgxdroid0: remove it , that's what caused your opengl library mismatch
[10:13] <Hoyt> fsgxdroid0: you don't have cards other than intel's right?
[10:13] <fsgxdroid0> Hoyt: yep
[10:13] <Ben64> fsgxdroid0: what card did you have before
[10:14] <MonkeyDust> Multiply  or uee ctrl arrow left to return to the gui
 hi
[10:14] <DYSW> Any ideas on how lts will be released ?
[10:14] <fsgxdroid0> ATI radeon
[10:14] <Hoyt> fsgxdroid0: apt-get purge fglrx-*
[10:14] <Ben64> DYSW: already is
[10:14] <xzcvczx> MonkeyDust: or ctrl-arrow right (multiple times) :P
[10:14] <MonkeyDust> DYSW  it's not out yet
[10:14] <xzcvczx> DYSW: when its ready
 do you have a questions?
[10:14] <fsgxdroid0> The following packages will be REMOVED:  fglrx* fglrx-amdcccle* fglrx-updates*
[10:14] <lpq> xzcvczx, yes i have a lived cd
[10:15] <fsgxdroid0> Hoyt: ill try restart now : )
[10:15] <DYSW> xzcvczx: Sure, but since the date is set for today, i kind of figured they had a hourly target as well.
[10:15] <MACscr> is autostart not available in ubuntu anymore? want a very simple way to run a particular command on boot that will run as the user
[10:15] <MACscr> rc.local runs as root
[10:15] <xzcvczx> DYSW: well today actually has almost 48 hours so by the 48th hour :)
[10:15] <yassu> yvy: yes
[10:16] <MonkeyDust> xzcvczx  may depend on the timezone ;)
[10:16] <Shape> if it's not out then what the hell is this? releases.ubuntu.com/12.04/ubuntu-12.04-desktop-i386.iso
 let`s start!
[10:16] <fsgxdroid0> Hoyt: THANK YOU!!! : )
[10:16] <nina666> Hoyt: ok... im afraid i need a little more help on how to do that...
[10:16] <pawdro> great release timing: 12:04 :)
[10:16] <DYSW> xzcvczx: LoL Only 24 hours here. No rush so lets see what happens. Using arch mainly so its mostly just for fun
[10:16] <xzcvczx> MonkeyDust: yeah but thats the typical response by most open source thinks i believe, that will just be vague as to what timezone its in
[10:17] <DYSW> pawdro: That would make sense
[10:17] <Hoyt> nina666: i'll try give you a script , did you use Vmware workstation 8 ?
[10:17] <xzcvczx> DYSW: well theres only 1hr and 43mins of the 26th left here but i doubt it will be out before out 27th
[10:17] <Hoyt> fsgxdroid0: worked ?
[10:17] <tarzeau_> are these right? 128f0c16f4734c420b0185a492d92e52  ubuntu-12.04-desktop-amd64.iso and d791352694374f1c478779f7f4447a3f  ubuntu-12.04-desktop-i386.iso ?
[10:17] <nina666> Hoyt: thanks, and no, its vmware player..
[10:17] <Ben64> xzcvczx: its out already
[10:17] <Hoyt> nina666: what version ?
[10:17] <Myrtti> Ben64: it's not.
[10:17] <m0rtal> is it out
[10:17] <Ben64> it is.
[10:17] <aditya> it's not officially out the servers are being updated so be patient
[10:18] <fsgxdroid0> Hoyt: indeed - it works perfectly now :)
[10:18] <xzcvczx> Ben64: i will wait for the topic and md5sums to be released
[10:18] <Hoyt> fsgxdroid0: glad to hear
[10:18] <DYSW> Ben64: We are talking 12.04 not 10.04
[10:18] <Hoyt> Yeah , it's so slow out of US
[10:18] <xzcvczx> Ben64: as you get a free gift if you wait until its official
[10:18] <Ben64> irc topic is not indicative of a release
[10:18] <MonkeyDust> Ben64  use sudo d-release-upgrade to find out if it's out or not
[10:18] <Myrtti> Ben64: actually, there is no email on the release mailing list, so it's not. Stop saying it is.
[10:18] <vuth_> hi...does Gnome, Unity, KDE...do the same this? they are all launcher application? you can have one or the other only installed?
[10:18] <MonkeyDust> Ben64  use sudo do-release-upgrade to find out if it's out or not
[10:18] <Hoyt> I had to wait for the mirror
[10:18] <Ben64> i'm seeding it on my server.
[10:18] <vuth_> *this = thing
[10:18] <Ben64> it is out.
[10:18] <yassu> yvy: when is 12.04 comig out?
[10:18] <Myrtti> Ben64: so, it's not out, stop saying it is.
[10:18] <Ben64> it's out
[10:18] <tarzeau_> vuth_: you can have all installed
[10:18] <nina666> Hoyt: VMware-Player-4.0.2-591240.x86_64.bundle
[10:18] <SunTsu> I really don't understand the rush for 12.04 - either wait or install current pre-release and update to release
[10:18] <aditya> it is more prudent to wait for the md5
[10:18] <Shape> xzcvczx: What free gift??!
[10:19] <tarzeau_> vuth_: but usually just run one of them
[10:19] <Ben64> http://releases.ubuntu.com/12.04/
[10:19] <Ben64> it is out
[10:19] <vega-> always the same ridiculous "it is out!" "no it's not" "yes, it is" debate :)
[10:19] <xzcvczx> Shape: you will have to wait and see :)
[10:19] <Ben64> kick me all you want
[10:19] <DYSW> yassu: within 48 hours apperently
[10:19] <vuth_> they are all Launchers correct?
[10:19] <ikonia> Ben64: please, come on, stop it
[10:19] <tarzeau_> SunTsu: upgrades are messy, if you need to do 10+
[10:19] <Myrtti> Ben64: next one will be with a ban, since it's not out yet.
[10:19] <dataviruset> it's out :DD
[10:19] <nitzs> Ben64: yes. i'm downloading it right now.
[10:19] <Ben64> read the page i linked
[10:19] <DYSW> Well he is right.
[10:19] <DYSW> http://releases.ubuntu.com/12.04/ubuntu-12.04-desktop-i386.iso
[10:19] <LjL> Ben64: it's not been announced, and anyway take this to #ubuntu-release-party, it doesn't belong here
[10:20] <m0rtal> in my country its nearly the 27th
[10:20] <Ben64> its on ubuntu.com!
[10:20] <vuth_> yassu= 12.04 is in Final Beta
[10:20] <Shape> xzcvczx: free gift if you buy it? or just download?
[10:20] <fsgxdroid0> Hoyt: as a user, i was just expecting that software figures out which hardware is currently used in my system... dude, ty again : )
[10:20] <Stanley00> not now Ben64
[10:20] <Ben64> http://releases.ubuntu.com/12.04/
[10:20] <yassu> vuth_, its out its out! :) see http://releases.ubuntu.com/12.04/
[10:20] <lost-man> wget -c http://releases.ubuntu.com/12.04/ubuntu-12.04-desktop-i386.iso
[10:20] <LjL> sigh
[10:20] <yassu> yippee
[10:20] <LjL> next one who says it's out or posts a link gets a ban
[10:20] <m0rtal> when will 12.10 be out?
[10:20] <yassu> :D
[10:20] <vuth_> YAY
[10:20] <vuth_> thank u!!
[10:20] <yassu> m0rtal, lolz
[10:20] <nitzs> hahahaha
[10:21] <Ben64> whats with the power tripping and ignorance
[10:21] <xzcvczx> Shape: download it
[10:21] <yassu> LjL, why?
[10:21] <vuth_> but i need the usb installation :(
[10:21] <nitzs> Ben64: if you think it's out, just go and download it. people would download when they want to.
[10:21] <SunTsu> tarzeau_: I'm talking fresh installation, doing it with current pre-release and upgrade it to release should go quite smooth
[10:21] <LjL> #UBUNTU IS A SUPPORT CHANNEL - take this to #ubuntu-release-party or #ubuntu-offtopic - anything that's not Ubuntu technical support doesn't belong here. clear enough?
[10:22] <yassu> can't find my fav lubuntu :(
[10:22] <ezoe> m0rtal: planned Oct 18th according to this. https://wiki.ubuntu.com/QuantalQuetzal/ReleaseSchedule?action=show&redirect=QReleaseSchedul
[10:22] <ThePendulum> Greetings
[10:22] <m0rtal> ezoe, thanx
[10:22] <mathews> lost-man, it works it terminal but not sure about is it beta or the release.
[10:23] <ThePendulum> I am running Ubuntu 12.04 on a dualscreen set-up. I was wondering if it's possible to have the panel items (notifications, time, auth, etc.) only on one screen, rather than both
[10:23] <Myrtti> ThePendulum: you're on the wrong channel for that
[10:23] <xzcvczx> ThePendulum: #ubuntu+1
[10:24] <ThePendulum> Oh, oke
[10:24] <ThePendulum> It's not really a specific 12.04 issue though, but okay
[10:24] <lost-man> mathews, That is why i am also worry to download it... But If it is beta then should name ubuntu-beta or like that... anyway
[10:25] <paulus68> ThePendulum: when you run on 12.04 it is
[10:25] <Ben64> ThePendulum: don't talk about 12.04 in here until the topic changes or people get mad at you
[10:25] <ThePendulum> Okay, okay, calm
[10:25] <bububuntu> 1 Q? if i have installed ubuntu can i use aptitude  install xubuntu-desktop and all sys settings stil are same ?
[10:25] <LjL> Ben64: no need to jump at them, they've been informed, they know now, they said "ok". if you have grudges with the rules, take them to #ubuntu-ops
[10:26] <Ben64> what rules? 12.04 is out but a few people don't want to acknowledge that fact
[10:26] <lcc> is there an ubuntu thai flavor I can download?
[10:26] <lcc> with all text in thai.
[10:27] <djbenny> lcc: http://www.ubuntu.com/support/community/locallanguage
[10:27] <MonkeyDust> lcc  try the language package
[10:27] <peto_> buenas
[10:27] <lcc> thanks
[10:27] <vuth_> please dont ban ben64..he is actually very helpful
[10:27] <elky> ben64_, there have been several occurrances of respins on release day at a later stage in the day than this.
[10:28] <paulus68> !es |peto_
[10:29] <peto_> ubottu, I see, I will stay here too, thks
[10:29] <LjL> vuth_: i'm sure, but he's not helpful when he fills the channel with "it's out". it's up to him now whether or not he'll be unbanned shortly.
[10:29] <peto_> ubottu, hehe
[10:29] <sindhiBhai> what is the expected release date of ubuntu 12.04.. ?
[10:29] <killer> 26 april
[10:29] <peto_> sindhiBhai, today
[10:29] <killer> utc time
[10:29] <sindhiBhai> k.. thx :)
[10:30] <peto_> today at 21:30 UTC
[10:30] <bububuntu> how much hdd use ubuntu default install ?
[10:30] <sindhiBhai> eagerly waiting :)
[10:30] <djbenny> bububuntu, https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation/SystemRequirements
[10:30] <vuth_> thnx u u djbenny i was seraching for that
[10:31] <djbenny> vuth_,  no problem
[10:32] <lpq> xzcvczx, ?
[10:32] <bububuntu> "15 GB of hard-drive space " shaise i hve only 10 GB
[10:32] <sindhiBhai> well u could do well with 5-10gb
[10:32] <djbenny> bububuntu, it wont require 15gb to be honest...
[10:32] <ciastek> sindhiBhai: http://releases.ubuntu.com/precise/
[10:33] <lpq> anyone able to help with repairing a broken ubuntu install
[10:33] <bububuntu> djbenny: thats why i ask how much is default install ? :)
[10:33] <sindhiBhai> thx ciastek :)
[10:33] <acicula> bububuntu: it depends, the minimal is about 1GB, the default is a few GB at best
[10:33] <bububuntu> 15 gigs are for all packages
[10:34] <staaffy> yeahy, Thats the final release?
[10:34] <acicula> bububuntu: well you need space to put things and games like nexuiz or other graphical things can take quite some space, but those do not get installed by default
[10:35] <nitzs> bububuntu: i've installed ubuntu in 3gb partitions on numerous occasions.
[10:35] <Myrtti> !party
[10:35] <Myrtti> ciastek: please don't post links as it's not released yet and it's not final until the release manager sends out an email.
[10:35] <bububuntu> nitzs: thxx i make one 8 gigs partition and run !
[10:36] <nitzs> bububuntu: yes. an 8gb partition will be quite enough if you won't install many games and stuff.
[10:36] <djbenny> how do i force a distribution upgrade?
[10:37] <ikonia> djbenny: to what ?
[10:37] <gorski> !Precise
[10:37] <djbenny> from 12.04 Beta to final?
[10:37] <bububuntu> nitzs: no games nothing extra by default . system only for surfing !
[10:37] <ikonia> djbenny: when final is released updates will filter down like normal
[10:37] <acicula> djbenny: apt-get dist-upgrade should do it
[10:37] <DJones> !final | djbenny
[10:37] <jiltdil> What is the exact time for release of ubuntu 12.04
[10:37] <ikonia> jiltdil: there isn't one
[10:37] <djbenny> ikonia, acicula cheers
[10:38] <ikonia> djbenny: just hang on for the release, and then you'll see updates offered, and that's how you'll get updated
[10:38] <jiltdil> ikonia,  Any guess ?? After one hour?
[10:38] <ikonia> djbenny: just like a normal day "10 updates to download etc"
[10:38] <ikonia> jiltdil: there is no set time so you can't guess
[10:38] <jiltdil> ikonia, ok
[10:38] <ikonia> jiltdil: just wait patiently
[10:38] <djbenny> ikonia, ok cheers thats what i thought but just wanted to check
[10:38] <nitzs> jiltdil: some guys are mentioning that it has already been released. so check it out yourself.
[10:38] <ikonia> nitzs: it's not out
[10:39] <keniiiii> hi guys supp
[10:39] <ikonia> jiltdil: please wait for the release announcment
[10:39] <vuth_> hi hi hi
[10:39] <acicula> nitzs: yeah dist-upgrade set my release to precise instead of experimental yesterday
[10:39] <Zeny> Hey
[10:39] <ikonia> jiltdil: that way you will get a confirmed solid released product
[10:39] <jiltdil> ikonia,ok i am tryiong to be in patient, so much excited
[10:40] <ikonia> jiltdil: I understand, but if you want the right software, wait for the release to be announced so you can be confident
[10:40] <nitzs> ikonia: they probabaly are waiting for all the mirrors to sync. the release annocement will be after that.
[10:40] <djbenny> also, is there a way to find out redundant packages and sweep them away?
[10:40] <ikonia> nitzs: waiting for many things to be setup
[10:40] <jiltdil> ikonia, Thanks
[10:40] <ikonia> djbenny: that should happen on it's own
[10:40] <djbenny> ikonia, but i upgraded the kernel recently and the old one remained on the system
[10:41] <ikonia> djbenny: yes, you will always have at least current -1
[10:41] <ikonia> djbenny: a fall back kernel is part of the upgrade process on the kernel
[10:41] <Zeny> Is there any expected release time? Maybe based on previously releases..
[10:41] <djbenny> ikonia, ok makes sense
[10:41] <ikonia> Zeny: no, there is not
[10:41] <Zeny> okay ty
[10:43] <tero> this is not an ubuntu question but, is it possible from windows to acces a hdd with ubuntu installed?
[10:44] <jiltdil> http://releases.ubuntu.com/precise/
[10:44] <sindhiBhai> tero yes..
[10:44] <Queops> tero, pratical answer is no
[10:44] <jiltdil> Here is the the download link http://releases.ubuntu.com/precise/
[10:44] <ikonia> tero: the guys in ##windows can help
[10:44] <Yaklyan> tero: http://www.fs-driver.org/
[10:44] <neL> tero: there are softwares which can access ext2/ext4 filesystems
[10:45] <Queops> Yeh i was gonna say I only saw ext2 one.
[10:45] <nitzs> neL: are the ext4 drivers stable?
[10:45] <Yaklyan> ext2 reading software works on ext3
[10:45] <Yaklyan> Haven't seen ext4 for windows though
[10:45] <neL> nitzs: I am not sure but the last time I checked, it wasn't
[10:45] <munim__> Ubuntu 12.04? Are we there yet?
[10:46] <azhag> hello
[10:46] <ikonia> munim__: no
[10:46] <neL> nitzs: There have been numerous reports of data loss or corruption
[10:46] <AndyUbuntu> Morning Ubuntu users
[10:46] <nitzs> tero: you proabably should write stuff meant to be shared between windows and uuntu on a NTFS partition.
[10:46] <AndyUbuntu> sure this question has been asked many times today
[10:46] <AndyUbuntu> :p
[10:46] <ikonia> AndyUbuntu: then don't ask it
[10:47] <nitzs> haha
[10:47] <AndyUbuntu> lol, the legendary ikonia :p
[10:47] <mwally_> does anyone have any idea what time 12.04 will release?
[10:47] <ikonia> mwally_: there is no set time
[10:47] <neL> tero: what nitzs said! ntfs-3g is really stable now
[10:47] <mwally_> ikonia: i take it youve been getting this question a lot.  Thanks :)
[10:47] <AndyUbuntu> lol, knew the answer would be soon
[10:47] <AndyUbuntu> lol
[10:48] <ikonia> guys, visit www.ubuntu.com - when it's release, you'll see it on the main web page
[10:48] <ikonia> apply some common sense
[10:48] <mwally_> but I want it now!  <g>  (sorry)
[10:48] <MonkeyDust> or use do-release-upgrade in a terminal and see what it return
[10:48] <AndyUbuntu> prob best wait till tomorrow
[10:48] <jiltdil> ikonia: why u banned me?
[10:48] <ikonia> MonkeyDust: NO
[10:49] <AndyUbuntu> says its out today, will take a while though, always does
[10:49] <neL> MonkeyDust: it will break things horribly. You can downgrade OS once the upgrade process has started
[10:49] <neL> *can't downgrade
[10:49] <ikonia> It will get released at some point today, just wait
[10:50] <MonkeyDust> neL  ikonia tnx for the warning, glad nothing irreversible happened
[10:50] <AndyUbuntu> has anyone started using 12.04 yet and if so would it be stable to use consistently?
[10:50] <munim_> http://releases.ubuntu.com/precise/ shows the downloads.. its not saying beta there.
[10:50] <Guest8793> Yes I use it everyday for a few weeks now
[10:50] <munim_> does is mean its out?
[10:50] <ikonia> AndyUbuntu: the feedback from the beta released has been positive.
[10:50] <nitzs> neL: you sound like it's updating to skynet. ;)
[10:51] <neL> lol
[10:51] <AndyUbuntu> excellent, great to hear thanks :) Always causious about the day of release
[10:52] <vuth_> sorry ikonia i sent the PM to wrong person
[10:52] <Zwiebelmus> ikonia seems to have sand in his/her vagina :-D
[10:52] <ikonia> Zwiebelmus: unacceptable - stop now, this is your only warning
[10:52] <yellabs-r2> hi there
[10:52] <neL> Zwiebelmus:  This sure doesn't look like ubuntu talk
[10:53] <yellabs-r2> is there an package for java runtime on 12.04 ?
[10:53] <munim_> wow. sorry man. you didn't need to kick me. just clarifying why its on the releases page
[10:53] <vuth_> can someone send me the offical Ubuntu - Low system requirement version link
[10:53] <vuth_> i know there is one..i think it is the LIGHT version
[10:53] <christhisisgool> yellabs-r2: do apt-cache search <package name>
[10:53] <mvineetmenon> which is release party channel?
[10:54] <christhisisgool> mvineetmenon: #ubuntu+1
[10:54] <fairuz> mvineetmenon: #ubuntu-release-party
[10:54] <mvineetmenon> fairuz thx
[10:54] <christhisisgool> oops
[10:54] <IWorld> Hi
[10:54] <christhisisgool> didnt realize there was an actual release party channel
[10:55] <IWorld> I've a quick questoion: when does release Ubuntu 12.04 LTS? 12:00 UTC?
[10:55] <IWorld> *question
[10:55] <ikonia> IWorld: no set time
[10:55] <IWorld> but today?
[10:55] <Yaklyan> !party
[10:56] <Guest8793> exit
[10:56] <neL> Can channel OP please change the channel title to accommodate the release time ?
[10:56] <ikonia> neL: there isn't a release time
[10:56] <IWorld> I love Ubuntu :-)
[10:56] <neL> Then put a "please don't panic. It will come soon"
[10:56] <neL> something of that sort
[10:56] <nitzs> the announcement will be put up any moment now.
[10:56] <ikonia> no-one reads the topic as you can see,
[10:57] <ikonia> nitzs: final warning - you don't know when it will be released, so don't suggest it will be any moment
[10:57]  * IWorld is excited
[10:57] <sk1special> is the plus one channel dead? cant get to it
[10:57] <ikonia> sk1special: nope, still there and working
[10:57] <neL> I see. Whenever the person doing ubuntu.com finishes with homepage, it will be released :D
[10:58] <AndyUbuntu> lol
[10:58] <sk1special> damn it. so. i was using xwinwrap to run a screensaver as my background..
[10:58] <sk1special> and there was this random box named dnd file i think..so of course i just close it.. was like eh whatever..
[10:59] <sk1special> then it force restarted me and now my menus look like there from windows 98 and my admin password to change settings doesnt work..
[10:59] <sk1special> and im getting this message in the terminal xlib extension RANDR missing
[10:59] <sly> Least it looks like one of the bettwe windows releases :)
[11:00] <AndyUbuntu> ok, so thought I would ask a poll. What is your preferred way to upgrade? 1. From repo 2. From iso as upgrade or 3. Fresh install ?
[11:00] <ikonia> please don't take a poll
[11:00] <lpq> anyone able to help with repairing a broken ubuntu install?
[11:00] <Duke_13> poll spam
[11:00] <AndyUbuntu> just curious
[11:00] <Shape> This is a support channel.
[11:00] <ikonia> AndyUbuntu: it doesn't matter what the poll output is
[11:00] <Duke_13> exit
[11:00] <christhisisgool> lpq: what is the problem?
[11:01] <AndyUbuntu> ok, doesnt matter. would just be interesting
[11:01] <Naemdar> Anyone know where to get drivers for a my passport drive?
[11:02] <lpq> christhisisgool, uninstalled nvidia drivers, rebooted, now the system immediately enters into powersave mode for the monitor after entering a passphrase
[11:02] <ikonia> Naemdar: shouldn't need any
[11:02] <neL> Naemdar: it should not need any
[11:02] <lpq> i've tried booting into recovery mode through grub, makes no difference
[11:02] <neL> all the filesystems are rw on linux
[11:03] <Naemdar> It won't mount for some reason.  and its in fat32 perhaps changing the file format?
[11:03] <christhisisgool> lpq: while i will admit that nvidia drivers are not my specialty, maybe either adding a user that is in a different group or upgrading the kernel would help?
[11:03] <lpq> i've tried using a live-cd, swapped xorg.conf with xorg.conf.failsafe, reboot and the os still enters into a powersave mode
[11:04] <lpq> upgrading the kernel might have caused this mess to begin with, that or the recent nvidia update about 10 days ago
[11:05] <tc_busy> can any one tell how to configure gui in tinycore
[11:05] <Naemdar> Or would ntfs be better, I see the ntfs volumes when I go looking for hard drives.  Just not going to torrent files to it as its my windows and game drive.
[11:06] <sly> Naemdar , why would you want in it fat32 anyway ? Ntfs is pretty widely supported........
[11:07] <nitzs> Naemdar: NTFS is the best option if you want r/w support in both linux and windows.
[11:07] <tc_busy> can any one tell how to configure gui in tinycore
[11:07] <Naemdar> Last linux I used was lindows and it didn't support ntfs.
[11:07] <Naemdar> So will redo the volume under windows as ntfs my thanks.
[11:08] <Arnold> Naemdar, I think that distro is quite old. I mean back then sure, NTFS support for Linux wasn't complete, and above all, it was read-only
[11:08] <Arnold> Thanks to NTFS-3G, you can mount your NTFS partition with read and write support and get it working just fine
[11:10] <Naemdar> I appreciate it.  learned something new today.  Linux isn't as scary as it used to be.
[11:10] <Naemdar> I decided to go dual boot and use linux as my torrent os.
[11:10] <Shape> Naemdar: You'd be surprized how much it changed and how much support it offers.
[11:11] <tc_busy> i booted from my live usb tinycore4.4 but is like terminal can anyone help me to configure it to gui mode
[11:11] <MonkeyDust> Naemdar  a friend of mine is more at ease with pcs, now i repaired his win pc with linux
[11:11] <Shape> Naemdar: I installed Red Hat loooong time ago and couldn't do anything in it. And now I don't even need Windows at all.
[11:11] <Rurd2di> so when will 12 be on mirrors
[11:11] <tc_busy> i booted from my live usb tinycore4.4 but is like terminal can anyone help me to configure it to gui mode
[11:12] <Naemdar> Unity reminds me a lot of osx which I am very comfortable with.  I still need windows for gaming and such but I think I will stick to ubuntu for browsing and such.
[11:12] <Shape> !cinnamon
[11:12] <nitzs> tc_busy: this isn't a support channel for Tiny Core Linux.
[11:12] <salmankhan> is ubuntu 12.04 released yet?
[11:12] <nitzs> sallu?
[11:12] <tc_busy> nitzs: can guide me to one
[11:13] <Rurd2di> salmankhan: seems so
[11:13] <Rurd2di> its on nz ftp
[11:13] <SteveBell> @Rurd2di, how can I update from with 11.10?
[11:13] <Naemdar> Will probably be in here a lot when I start sorting the ati 5770 driver issue but that was back burner to the usb hd.
[11:13] <tc_busy> nitzs: Rurd2di like???i dont understand
[11:13] <paulus68> !release|salmankhan
[11:14] <Rurd2di> SteveBell: i dont think they have enabled that yet
[11:14] <Rurd2di> that will be tomorrow sometime
[11:14] <nitzs> tc_busy: try #tinycorelinux
[11:14] <SteveBell> ah ok...
[11:14] <Rurd2di> i havent been notifed on any of my boxes yet
[11:14] <tc_busy> thanks nitzs
[11:15] <subdesign> so no 12.04 is out?
[11:15] <tc_busy> nitzs: no ones responding but thanks a lot
[11:16] <Rurd2di> wahoo
[11:16] <Rurd2di> im leechin all the new iso's
[11:16] <Rurd2di> :D
[11:16] <subdesign> Rurd2di, is out?
[11:17] <Rurd2di> it is here
[11:17] <Rurd2di> its on the nz ftp mirror
[11:17] <subdesign> ok i check ftp
[11:17] <Rurd2di> Ubuntu 12.04 LTS (Precise Pangolin)
[11:17] <Rurd2di> dont use nz
[11:17] <vuth_> what do you mean Rurd2di
[11:17] <Rurd2di> im using it
[11:18] <Rurd2di> :P
[11:18] <tc_busy> Rurd2di: can you help me to get there nz ftp mirror i dont how to
[11:18] <nitzs> here is a list of mirrors: https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+cdmirrors
[11:18] <bhaisahab> guys I'm eagerly waiting to do a dist-upgrade.... when is it going live?
[11:19] <Rurd2di> bhaisahab:next few hours i guess
[11:19] <tc_busy> bhaisahab i booted from my live usb tinycore4.4 but is like terminal can anyone help me to configure it to gui mode
[11:19] <Rurd2di> isos are out
[11:19] <cba123> Don't they push it back 20 minutes everytime someone asks?  Or is that not done anymore?
[11:19] <SteveBell> @Rurd2di how would I update my existing 11.10 virtual machine from the isos?
[11:19] <Rurd2di> vuth_: im getting of the nz ftp mirror
[11:19] <Rurd2di> SteveBell: you cant yet
[11:20] <Rurd2di> wait till the release the dist-upgrade
[11:20] <bhaisahab> tc_busy: no idea man
[11:20] <Rurd2di> should be out next few hours
[11:20] <bhaisahab> cool Rurd2di
[11:20] <Rurd2di> fuck
[11:21] <Rurd2di> im getting so many messages
[11:21] <Rurd2di> if u want the ftp
[11:21] <Rurd2di> pm me
[11:21] <Rurd2di> :)
[11:21] <subdesign> nice link: http://iso.qa.ubuntu.com/qatracker/milestones/216/builds
[11:21] <FloodBot1> Rurd2di: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[11:21] <Tm_T> Rurd2di: please watch your language
[11:21] <bindi> does ubuntu use that replacement to X server yet? can't remember it's name
[11:21] <bindi> wayland maybe
[11:21] <tc_busy> bhaisahab: big brother right na
[11:21] <tc_busy> bhaisahab: you saw that movie right mbkd
[11:21] <pedza> grr when will it come out
[11:21] <Tm_T> bindi: no not yet
[11:21] <MonkeyDust> bindi  wayland
[11:22] <bhaisahab> tc_busy: +1
[11:22] <Rurd2di> pedza: its out
[11:22] <Rurd2di> lol
[11:22] <Rurd2di> on ftps
[11:22] <Tm_T> Rurd2di: no it is not
[11:22] <pedza> hmmm
[11:22] <pedza> gimme
[11:22] <pedza> :)
[11:22] <Rurd2di> yeah
[11:22] <Rurd2di> its on citylink mirror
[11:22] <ferni> it is out
[11:22] <subdesign> wait for the final!!
[11:22] <Rurd2di> derp
[11:22] <Marzata> 12.04 download url?
[11:22] <ferni> http://releases.ubuntu.com/precise/
[11:22] <Tm_T> Rurd2di it's not released yet
[11:22] <pedza> yeah
[11:22] <tc_busy> bhaisahab: whats this nz ftp thing
[11:22] <`36`> https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/ubuntu-announce/2012-April/thread.html
[11:22] <bhaisahab> yeah not yet
[11:22] <pedza> thar it is
[11:22] <Rurd2di> Tm_T: well why is it on the citylink mirror
[11:23] <pedza> how about xubuntu
[11:23] <pedza> i need to install it on a netbook...
[11:23] <Tm_T> Rurd2di: it's released when it's announced, mirrors might have precopy to ease the final sync
[11:23] <tc_busy> Tm_T: what is this ftp thing nz....
[11:23] <bhaisahab> tc_busy: what do you want to know about ftp?
[11:23] <peter32> what about lubuntu
[11:24] <Tm_T> no releases yet, and continue on #ubuntu-release-party about the release please
[11:24] <tc_busy> bhaisahab: what is this thing going on here ftp thing how to get into it
[11:24] <Tm_T> tc_busy: see my message above
[11:25] <nannes> impossibile situation!! I've just found the only PC in the world where Lubuntu+Chromium go jerkily!! !!! AAAAAAAARGHHH
[11:25] <nannes> AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA
[11:25] <tc_busy> there are 7872 channels my god this is huge
[11:25] <bhaisahab> tc_busy: I've no idea ask whoever is offering you downloads via ftp... ftp is just another protocol but for file transfers, I prefer rsync though
[11:25] <nannes> Do you think that a kernel-recompilation would change the situation?
[11:25] <tc_busy> bhaisahab: ok thanks i am  new here
[11:26] <subdesign> if you check my above link you can read "testing" status currently
[11:26] <pedza> oh btw here's the download for lubuntu
[11:26] <pedza> http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/lubuntu/releases/12.04/release/
[11:26] <subdesign> but who knows..
[11:26] <pedza> still cant find xubuntu ;/
[11:27] <Didou> pedza, lubuntu ?
[11:28] <pedza> @didou, yes the link is for lubuntu
[11:28] <Didou> ok
[11:28] <bhaisahab> tc_busy: hey bro chill, feel free to ask; ask away anything... you use ubuntu as your default box?
[11:29] <nannes> heeeelp
[11:29] <W2764687> I need linux driver for Atheros AR5B95 and I cant seem to find
[11:29] <nannes> impossibile situation!! I've just found the only PC in the world where Lubuntu+Chromium go jerkily!! !!! AAAAAAAARGHHH
[11:29] <nannes> Do you think that a kernel-recompilation would change the situation?
[11:30] <angel282> Hello, can someone please recommend me on good server adminstration panel for Ubuntu? so I can manage all my domains, bandwidth etc...
[11:30] <smittix> angel282: webmin
[11:30] <MonkeyDust> nannes  please don't 'aaa...'
[11:30] <tc_busy> bhaisahab: no i temporarily use mint 12 live but i have ubuntu 11.04 iso but my dvd burner went crashing and dont know how to make live usb
[11:31] <tokinwhiteman> tc_busy: you can download unetbootin
[11:31] <tokinwhiteman> or from a windows box use pendrivelinux
[11:31] <tc_busy> bhaisahab: also i downloaded tinycore 11.9 mb only for fun but now i want to set it to GUI mode and dont know how
[11:31] <Naemdar> I did a reformat of the usb drive to ntfs. is there a command I need to run to get it to recognize?
[11:32] <angel282> smittix: great, do you know some guide how to install webmin?
[11:32] <bhaisahab> tc_busy: easy one, use netbootin or startup disk creator... esaiest way : dd if=path-to-iso of=/dev/sdx where sdx is your pen drive
[11:32] <tc_busy> tokinwhiteman: as of now I have decided to completely turn to linux  i want to do it on linux
[11:32] <tc_busy> bhaisahab: thanks
[11:33] <tc_busy> that seems great
[11:33] <tc_busy> i will try
[11:33] <W2764687> I need linux driver for Atheros AR5B95 and I cant seem to find
[11:34] <bhaisahab> tc_busy: alternatively go to ubuntu.com's download page and selecte how to install using usb or something like that IIRC
[11:34] <smittix> angel282: There will be plenty out there. I would go directly to their website and check what they have first. http://www.webmin.com/deb.html
[11:34] <Didou> pedza, release yet :)
[11:34] <MonkeyDust> !bcm| W2764687 start here
[11:34] <tc_busy> ok bhaisahab
[11:34] <wcchandler> did 12.04 drop yet?
[11:34] <W2764687> thx
[11:34] <wcchandler> i know it's scheduled for today
[11:34] <babai> wcchandler: releases.ubuntu.com/precise
[11:35] <x010100x> let's try new 12.04 !!
[11:35] <pedza> yeah it did
[11:36] <bhaisahab> damn i should fallback on arch linux, just ubuntu makes stuff easier and brain dead
[11:36] <tc_busy> bhaisahab: i tried but how to give the path of my iso its on the ntfs partition
[11:36] <babai> I think we should wait for it to be official, that link might not be pointing to the correct iso http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1965723
[11:36] <tc_busy> bhaisahab: i tried but how to give the path of my iso its on the ntfs partition
[11:37] <Lint> babai, it is dated 26.04
[11:37] <wcchandler> babai: yeah, that's why i didn't get it yet..  figured it was just a nightly build
[11:37] <bhaisahab> tc_busy: examepl: sudo dd if=/media/mydrive/ubuntusss.iso of=/dev/sdxx
[11:37] <tc_busy> bhaisahab: can you suggest me some books on linux
[11:37] <babai> wcchandler: also the trackers for torrents are not synced
[11:37] <tc_busy> bhaisahab: can you suggest me some books on linux
[11:37] <bhaisahab> tc_busy: sudo fdisk -l to identify what  /dev/sdxx is your usb drive
[11:38] <wcchandler> babai: yeah, the ML said the mirrors are all synced
[11:38] <bhaisahab> tc_busy: google.com, staart with kernelcommand.org or was it .com if you're completely new to all this stuff
[11:38] <babai> bhaisahab: last time i checked the dd method didn't worked for ubuntu
[11:39] <tc_busy> thanks bhaisahab
[11:39] <Rurd2di> wcchandler: so thats final
[11:39] <Rurd2di> and can be downloaded
[11:39] <bhaisahab> tc_busy: your welcome hope it works for you
[11:39] <MonkeyDust> tc_busy  get to master the command line
[11:39] <GiveUbuntuNOW> i doubt you will look any better seteh
[11:40] <tc_busy> MonkeyDust: thank you
[11:41] <Ztane> how do I make ubuntu cleanly get rid of my old kernels, ramdisks in /boot
[11:41] <MonkeyDust> Ztane  I use the 3rd party app ubuntu-tweak to that end
[11:42] <tc_busy> bhaisahab: such a site doesnt exist
[11:43] <tc_busy> can you suggest some pdfs for it
[11:43] <Ztane> MonkeyDust: ok will try
[11:43] <tc_busy> bhaisahab: ^
[11:43]  * _r00t_ wonders how you check if an ugrade is available without doing a do-release-upgrade
[11:44] <bhaisahab> tc_busy: google, okay I did not tell you this... get all the good stuff off flazx.us
[11:44] <gribouille> hi
[11:44] <tc_busy> ok bhaisahab
[11:44] <gribouille> when will 12.04 be released?
[11:45] <pedza> it was
[11:45] <gribouille> pedza, when?
[11:45] <nitzs> gribouille: only the guys at ubuntu know that.
[11:45] <bhaisahab> tc_busy: yeah man typo on my part, it is linuxcommand.org/
[11:45] <pedza> http://releases.ubuntu.com/precise/
[11:45] <pedza> there
[11:45] <bhaisahab> it's a really good place to start learning some basic commands
[11:46] <Rurd2di> pedza: isos are on mirrors
[11:46] <tc_busy> bhaisahab: thankyou I will check
[11:46] <Rurd2di> but they havent done final sync yet
[11:46] <gribouille> I thought it would be released on the 28th
[11:46] <Rurd2di> from what i have been told
[11:46] <pedza> nope, today
[11:46] <Myrtti> pedza: it's not out yet, there is no release announcement. Please don't paste links.
[11:47] <gribouille> pedza, that's not what https://wiki.ubuntu.com/PrecisePangolin/ReleaseSchedule says
[11:47] <pedza> well it is the official release date and that is a page on their website
[11:47]  * bhaisahab going to dist-upgrade now, seems like files are showing up
[11:47] <pedza> 26th of april is the release date as far as i know
[11:47] <tc_busy> bhaisahab: flazx.us site is great really
[11:47] <Myrtti> pedza: but it's not announced released yet, so it's not out yet.
[11:47] <pedza> but it is
[11:48] <GiveUbuntuNOW> I ANNOUNCE UBUNTU IS OUT. there we go its official now YEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEAH
[11:48] <pedza> it is out but an announcement hasnt  been released yet
[11:48] <pedza> yay
[11:48] <nitzs> GiveUbuntuNOW: are you trolling?
[11:48] <Kriss3d> Has 12.04 gotten released yet ?
[11:48] <Myrtti> pedza: no, it's not. and this discussion is something that you can't win.
[11:49] <smittix> heh
[11:49] <Myrtti> Kriss3d: no.
[11:49] <nitzs> pedza: you'll prolly get banned if you start arguing.
[11:49] <Kriss3d> ah ok.. but its today right ?
[11:49] <smittix> It's not out until it's out.
[11:49] <tc_busy> yes released
[11:49] <Myrtti> Kriss3d: probably
[11:49] <pedza> im not arguing im stating the obvious..
[11:49] <Myrtti> tc_busy: no.
[11:49] <smittix> Just because you can see the ISO doesn't mean its out.
[11:49] <Kriss3d> Oh i thought today was the big release date
[11:50] <pedza> it is
[11:50] <Myrtti> pedza: there still might be respins and resyncs into the mirrors
[11:50] <pedza> but they havent made the announcement yet
[11:50] <smittix> Kriss3d: It is, but it's not officially out yet.
[11:50] <Myrtti> pedza: so keeping that in mind, it's not out until the announcement is done.
[11:50] <smittix> You risk using unsynched mirrors etc.
[11:50] <Kriss3d> ah ok.. ill try to sit on my thumb then
[11:50] <tc_busy> Myrtti: if this is the popularity of ubuntu, no offence I am kinda new to linux trying to learn, wont the server be overly crowded
[11:50] <tc_busy> Myrtti: if this is the popularity of ubuntu, no offence I am kinda new to linux trying to learn, wont the server be overly crowded
[11:51] <nitzs> tc_busy: yes. so you should use the torrents.
[11:51] <blez> ubuntu 12 today?
[11:51] <Myrtti> tc_busy: mirrors and torrents will be in action
[11:51] <Kriss3d> its suppsoed to yes.
[11:51] <Myrtti> blez: yes, but not yet.
[11:51] <Myrtti> !party
[11:51] <tc_busy> ok Myrtti  and nitzs
[11:51] <tc_busy> are there partys arranged
[11:52] <tc_busy> Myrtti: my ?
[11:52] <nitzs> the release announcement is out.
[11:52] <tc_busy> Myrtti: my ?
[11:52] <Kriss3d> im mostly concerned if 12.04 will still have unity or if they finally ditched it
[11:52] <nitzs> check out ubuntu.com
[11:52] <caeliat> it is
[11:52] <caeliat> awesome
[11:52] <zvacet> Kriss3d: unity stay
[11:52] <ikonia> Kriss3d: unity is ubuntus default shell for the future
[11:53] <Kriss3d> urg.. major setback.. oh well.. its linux.. i get to decide how my x looks..
[11:53] <tc_busy> in ubuntu everything is preloaded right then fow to set up things in arch linux or puppylinux
[11:53] <pedza> http://www.ubuntu.com/
[11:53] <pedza> and so
[11:53] <nitzs> So everyone Ubuntu 12.04 LTS is officially out.
[11:53] <pedza> it has been released
[11:53] <FloodBot1> pedza: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[11:53] <ikonia> tc_busy: sorry what ?
[11:53] <Myrtti> nitzs: still no email on the mailing list, so it's not.
[11:54]  * pedza seeds the torrent
[11:54] <wolfmitchell> Hello, for some reason, last night my computer was turning off after running for about 5 minutes...
[11:54] <zvacet> Kriss3d: you have many choices berween de or wm
[11:54] <zvacet> *between
[11:54] <Kriss3d> de ? wm ?
[11:54] <tc_busy> like i downloaded tinycore can i setup GUI in it its really light only trying to know things ikonia
[11:55] <subdesign> out
[11:55] <subdesign> guys
[11:55] <tc_busy> like i downloaded tinycore can i setup GUI in it its really light only trying to know things ikonia
[11:55] <zvacet> Kriss3d: desktop environment window manager
[11:55] <ikonia> tc_busy: not sure how that has any relevence,
[11:55] <urlwolf> will kubuntu be released at the same time as ubuntu today?
[11:55] <tokinwhiteman> ask #kubuntu
[11:55] <Kriss3d> ah.. zvacet yeah.. im used to gnome so i configured 11.10 to look like gnome2
[11:56] <Kriss3d> works just fine for me.. but i might try somthing more daring in that direction
[11:56] <tc_busy> ikonia i mean how to setup wireless graphics gui in light weight distributions
[11:56] <zvacet> tc_busy: if you want to custumize your ubuntu you can try ubuntu minimal
[11:56] <ikonia> wireless graphics ?
[11:56] <ikonia> you don't need "minimal"
[11:56] <ikonia> just change what you want
[11:56] <IWorld> http://www.ubuntu.com/start-download?distro=desktop&bits=32&release=lts ?
[11:56] <pedza> I haz it.
[11:56] <IWorld> Site off-line
[11:56] <ikonia> there is no need for special installs
[11:57] <tc_busy> ikonia look in tiny core in ifconfig command there is no wlan0 but i have wifi device so
[11:57] <ikonia> tc_busy: so ?
[11:57] <zvacet> Kriss3d: like ikonia said unity is ubuntu shell for future but you can install some other de if you like
[11:57] <tc_busy> ikonia so how to set it up to make my wifi device run
[11:58] <ikonia> tc_busy: you just said you had wireless
[11:58] <delusr_> Is this for a PC or a Mac http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/releases/12.04/release/ubuntu-12.04-alternate-amd64+mac.iso ??
[11:58] <ikonia> CyberWorld: 64bit mac
[11:58] <ikonia> oops
[11:58] <ikonia> delusr_: 64bit mac
[11:58] <urlwolf> is there a big difference between installing the beta 2 + upgrading, vs installing the release when it comes out today?
[11:58] <delusr_> Wheres the PC version?
[11:58] <pixaal> anyone know why banshee isn't playing anything for me? I get the error "GStreamer resource error: NotFound"
[11:58] <tc_busy> ikonia right now i am using cable connection
[11:58] <nitzs> urlwolf: no
[11:58] <Kriss3d> zvacet yeah.
[11:59] <urlwolf> : nitzs: thanks
[11:59] <P0bailey> urlwolf, upgrading from the beta2 is almost the same
[11:59] <ikonia> delusr_: not been released yet, that's why all the people screaming "it's out" look foolish
[11:59] <urlwolf> big difference between installing kubuntu vs ubuntu + kde-full?
[12:00] <ikonia> urlwolf: ubuntu = gnome kubuntu = kde
[12:00] <zvacet> urlwolf: beta with all updates will get you to final release
[12:00] <urlwolf> yes, I want kde
[12:00] <NICBM>  UPDATE THE TOPIC
[12:00] <ikonia> NICBM: no
[12:00] <urlwolf> but kubuntu has removed the beta isos
[12:00] <nitzs> urlwolf: you'd be better off installing kubuntu than going the longer route.
[12:00] <NICBM> ikonia: why?
[12:00] <urlwolf> so I'm thinking go ubuntu + kde
[12:00] <urlwolf> no idea why
[12:00] <ikonia> NICBM: because nothing has changed
[12:00] <ikonia> urlwolf: ????? just install kubuntu
[12:00] <somya> Hi I have performed a ubuntu upgrade to 11.04 but my wi-fi connection is not working properly "wlan0" device is not showing among the network devices
[12:01] <urlwolf> there are no kubuntu isos that I can find
[12:01] <urlwolf> right now
[12:01] <NICBM> O_o
[12:01] <ikonia> urlwolf: wait for the release.
[12:01] <delusr_> ikonia I think your a fool have you not seen there homepage??
[12:01] <Zeny> Doh, download site is down..
[12:01] <ikonia> delusr_: I have seen the home page
[12:01] <NICBM> ikonia: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/PrecisePangolin/ReleaseNotes/
[12:01] <smittix> delusr_: It _hasn'nt_ been released until the release email has been sent!
[12:01] <ikonia> delusr_: have you seen the links it links to.....oh wait, it's broken because IT's NOT OUT
[12:01] <subdesign> hehe Downloading ubuntu i get error : site offline
[12:01] <ikonia> NICBM: yeah, and ?
[12:01] <MonkeyDust> ok, the ubuntu home page is updated
[12:02] <dr-willis> its the same in here every new release day..  stay calm...
[12:02] <subdesign> lots of dling
[12:02] <smittix> subdesign: That's because it's not out yet.
[12:02] <Rurd2di> horah!
[12:02] <Rurd2di> its offical now
[12:02] <subdesign> hehe yes its out
[12:02] <ikonia> Rurd2di: no it's not
[12:02] <ikonia> subdesign: no it's not
[12:02] <pedza> http://releases.ubuntu.com/precise/ubuntu-12.04-desktop-i386.iso.torrent
[12:02] <subdesign> refresh mate
[12:02] <NICBM> Is Unity usable in 12.04??
[12:02] <subdesign> do you need a screenshot ?
[12:02] <ikonia> NICBM: try it, see how you like it
[12:02] <zvacet> urlwolf: if you don't want to wait for new kubuntu release you can do this http://www.psychocats.net/ubuntu/purekde
[12:02] <yaroyaro> http://www.ubuntu.com/ officially released! :)
[12:03] <dr-willis> NICBM:  i found it useable in 11.10
[12:03] <smittix> subdesign: go to ubuntu.com and use the link to download. and you will find that it 404's
[12:03] <smittix> just chill it wont be long now.
[12:03] <ikonia> the channel is now muted
[12:03] <ikonia> the ubuntu servers are being updated and prepared for the release. it is NOT out until the release manager states so
[12:03] <ikonia> anyone posting links or suggesting it's out when it's not - will be removed
[12:03] <subdesign> smittix, site is overloaded , not about not released
[12:04] <NICBM> ok
[12:04] <smittix> subdesign: Please read ikonia's statement.
[12:04] <smittix> FACT.
[12:04] <munikar> release time?
[12:04] <tc_busy> whats muted?
[12:04] <subdesign> cheking
[12:04] <smittix> subdesign: a 404 does not mean an overload..
[12:04] <dr-willis> any actual support issues?
[12:04] <ikonia> tc_busy: it means can't talk in the channel
[12:05] <subdesign> smittix, for me not 404, i have Drupal error site off-line
[12:05] <ferni> ikonia: well ubuntu.com says its out
[12:05] <smittix> subdesign: well duh...
[12:05] <subdesign> whatever
[12:05] <subdesign> we wait
[12:05] <smittix> Exactly.
[12:05] <Marzata> 12.04 stable?
[12:05] <tc_busy> thanks ikonia we've met second time
[12:05] <AdiNX> Help?
[12:05] <Zeny> arg, how do i disable entered and leave notifications in pidgin?
[12:06] <dr-willis> Zeny:  its a plugin you enable i think
[12:06] <dr-willis> Zeny:  you may want to try xchat instead
[12:06] <smittix> Please see - https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/ubuntu-announce/2012-April/000159.html
[12:06] <Zeny> hmm arrrha, sounds like it should be a setting, (which i cant find x)
[12:07] <lcc> ubuntu 12.04 is released
[12:07] <lxgrx> yay
[12:07] <ikonia> there you go, release mail 2 minutes ago
[12:07] <Zeny> Yah okay, just seam redundant to have 10x software with the same functionality.
[12:07] <dr-willis> pidgin in not a great irc client
[12:07] <poglavica> gribouille, #ubuntu-release-party * ChanServ has changed the topic to: Ubuntu 12.04 (Precise Pangolin) is released!
[12:07] <Zeny> i know now =)
[12:07] <lxgrx> but why isn't it included in http://changelogs.ubuntu.com/meta-release ?
[12:07] <celso_> when it got released?
[12:07] <Rurd2di> my irssi just died dr-willis
[12:08] <lcc> the site is down though.
[12:08] <dr-willis> Rurd2di:  i use weechat
[12:08] <tc_busy> ikonia did it release?
[12:08] <Multiply> Is there a way to automatically set file permissions to 770, when I create a new file, on NFS?
[12:08] <ikonia> tc_busy: according to that email
[12:08] <tc_busy> party hurray
[12:08] <celso_> fortunly i got my torrent file just moments before the ubuntu site went down :D
[12:08] <ikonia> Multiply: look at file creation mask
[12:08] <rapidx_> Download worked :)
[12:09] <Multiply> ikonia: I'll look it up, thanks.
[12:09] <tc_busy> like i said overcrowded
[12:09] <tc_busy> can ubuntu get leaked before being officially launched
[12:10] <bazhang> tc_busy, its out
[12:10] <celso_> think not. why?
[12:10] <tc_busy> hi bazhang
[12:10] <Rurd2di> nz ftp on citylink is holding up ok
[12:10] <lxgrx> when will update manager offer 12.04?
[12:10] <jeinor> Should/can PC users the image ubuntu-12.04-desktop-amd64+mac.iso? Or is it only for mac?
[12:10] <dr-willis> tc_busy:  if you updated and upgraded earlier today it would been same as the released
[12:10] <bazhang> lxgrx, when your mirrors are synced, I'd imagine
[12:10] <ikonia> lxgrx: when the servers can handle it
[12:10] <nitzs> tc_busy: the development of ubuntu is not behind closed doors. so it can never get 'leaked'.
[12:10] <tc_busy> dr-willis: thanks
[12:11] <ikonia> lxgrx: I'd advise not updating for a day or so as if the servers lose connection during the upgrade (while it's busy) you'll be in a mess
[12:11] <bazhang> jeinor, its fine for PCs
[12:11] <tc_busy> nitzs: thats deep
[12:11] <dr-willis> thats how i normally do a new release
[12:11] <Christoph_vW> I tried to report a bug in ubuntu 12.04 but I think I messed it up (https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/apache2/+bug/988819)
[12:11] <lxgrx> ikonia, does that mean when https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+archivemirrors shows most/all of the servers green?
[12:11] <Christoph_vW> can anyone give me a hint how to target the bug report to ubuntu 12.04?
[12:11] <jeinor> bazhang, ok, thanks. Whats the difference between ubuntu-12.04-desktop-amd64+mac.iso and ubuntu-12.04-dvd-amd64.iso then?
[12:11] <tc_busy> ikonia but it says that nothing affects linux even while udating
[12:11] <ikonia> lxgrx: that means they are synced, however I'd advise against upgrading today
[12:11] <smittix> Its up and working now.
[12:12] <ikonia> tc_busy: what is "it"
[12:12] <smittix> Can everyone hold off until I have downloaded the ISO. :)
[12:12] <lxgrx> ikonia, i'll try and resist :) thanks
[12:12] <Death_Syn> ooh, front page has 12.04 on downloads
[12:12] <ikonia> lxgrx: is up to you, it's just advise from experience
[12:12]  * Death_Syn snags torrents
[12:12] <dr-willis> smittix:  use torrents
[12:12] <tc_busy> i read a pdf linux vs windows
[12:12] <bazhang> jeinor, more language packs and a bit more I suppose
[12:12] <fl1bbl3> tc_busy: doesn't affect it, but to take advantage of a new kernel you need to boot it
[12:13] <jeinor> bazhang: thanks for the info. Only me who is missing an i386 release on http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/releases/12.04/release/?
[12:13] <fl1bbl3> upgrading the kernel doesn't necessitate a reboot though
[12:13] <tc_busy> ok fl1bbl3
[12:13] <ikonia> tc_busy: then that pdf is wrong
[12:13] <Millenaire> tc_busy, Do you have a link to that PDF?
[12:13] <ikonia> fl1bbl3: yes it does
[12:13] <fl1bbl3> no it doesn't
[12:13] <tc_busy> well i think i can send one
[12:13] <ikonia> fl1bbl3: yes it does
[12:13] <Millenaire> Yes plz
[12:13] <bazhang> jeinor, may take a few minutes, it's been like 5 mins since release, after all
[12:13] <tc_busy> Millenaire: ^
[12:13] <Death_Syn> http://www.ubuntu.com/download/desktop/alternative-downloads
[12:13] <ikonia> Death_Syn: why are you posting that ?
[12:13] <fl1bbl3> so I can't have two entries in grub pointing to different kernel levels then?
[12:14] <ikonia> fl1bbl3: of course you can
[12:14] <celso_> people, for the download, use the torrent file!
[12:14] <jeinor> bazhang: ah, I didn't know. thought it was released earlier today :)
[12:14] <Death_Syn> somebody couldn't find the image he needed on the cdimage
[12:14] <ikonia> fl1bbl3: you can have as many kernels installed as you want
[12:14] <Death_Syn> i was showing the link for the torrents
[12:14] <Death_Syn> though it doesn't look like anyone is seeding yet
[12:14] <fl1bbl3> ikonia: I know
[12:14] <celso_> thanks :)
[12:14] <Death_Syn> oh
[12:14] <Death_Syn> amd64 desktop is coming down
[12:14] <Death_Syn> yay!
[12:15] <ikonia> fl1bbl3: so why did you just ask if you could do that ?
[12:15] <fl1bbl3> ikonia: I can install new kernel files without rebooting, but I can't use that new kernel without a reboot
[12:15] <ikonia> fl1bbl3: apologies if I'm missing the question
[12:15] <celso_> it is. at least i am downloading amd64 and is doing good.
[12:15] <tehowe> Oh look the site just went back up
[12:15] <ikonia> fl1bbl3: yes, so updating the kernel does need a reboot
[12:15] <fl1bbl3> ikonia: no, _using_ the new kernel needs a reboot
[12:15] <celso_> always having an average of 150 kbs
[12:15] <ikonia> oh dear, pointless word play
[12:16] <Lint> ubuntu tried to hotswap the kernels two years ago or so
[12:16] <urlwolf> I'm going to install kubuntu from http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/kubuntu/dvd/current/
[12:16] <urlwolf> please stop me if this is a bad idea
[12:16] <fl1bbl3> ikonia: its not pointless, tc_busy was referring to comparison with windows, where a service pack install needs a full reboot always
[12:16] <dr-willis> urlwolf:  why use dvd
[12:16] <Gnea> urlwolf: why would it be a bad idea?
[12:16] <ikonia> fl1bbl3: yes and a kernel install needs a reboot
[12:16] <tc_busy> wait
[12:16] <ikonia> or it's a pointless task, it's just a file on the machine that's not being used with none of the updates
[12:17] <fl1bbl3> I was pointing out that if you choose to update the files, you have a choice whether to reboot or not depending on when you want to use the new functionality of the new kernel
[12:17] <ikonia> as you do with windows you can chose when you reboot after a service pack install
[12:17] <dr-willis> new apps may not work untill new kernel is used....
[12:18] <doda> https://www.facebook.com/ubuntulinux/posts/441913515834848 is this a fake page ?
[12:18] <zeny_> Here we go, one gig dormitory upload added to torrent pool :)
[12:18] <doda> i mean the facebook one
[12:18] <ikonia> doda: who cares,
[12:18] <celso_> yeah! thanks!
[12:18] <MrKeuner> hello, is this precise now?
[12:18] <neL> so it is released
[12:18] <Kriss3d> ITS here!
[12:18] <celso_> yep
[12:18] <neL> facebook typo is lulz (ubuntu official page)
[12:18] <tc_busy> ikonia accept my request
[12:19] <MrKeuner> how do you add applications to autostart in Gnome3?
[12:19] <Gnea> heh, the FB announcement...
[12:19] <drussell> can an op change the topic
[12:19] <ikonia> tc_busy: what request ?
[12:19] <Gnea> neL: yeah, just saw that... someone hasn't had enough coffee
[12:19] <ikonia> drussell: sure
[12:19] <drussell> we're supporting 12.04 here now
[12:19] <tc_busy> fl1bbl3: i am sending u a file
[12:19] <drussell> :o)
[12:19] <dr-willis> !autorun
[12:19] <fl1bbl3> pretty sure you aren't
[12:19] <tc_busy> ikonia i am trying to send u a file
[12:19] <Gnea> Ubuntu 12.04 is LAUNCHED!!! Get it here: www.ubunut.com  <-- oops
[12:19] <tc_busy> fl1 1 min please
[12:19] <B|ackbird> haha
[12:19] <ikonia> tc_busy: I don't want a file thanks
[12:19] <MrKeuner> dr-willis, not sure if autorun == autostart
[12:20] <Wolfsherz> sorry for this question, but is my 12.04 beta automatically updated to full release, or do i need to do it manually?
[12:20] <nitzs> sending a file?
[12:20] <neL> Gnea: for some strange reason, I thought it was intentional
[12:20] <doda> the fb announcment is on a page named ubuntulinux, which seems fake
[12:20] <bazhang> Wolfsherz, just keep update/upgrade, and you'll be there
[12:20] <Gnea> Wolfsherz: the latest updates ought to bring it up to speed
[12:20] <fl1bbl3> a pdf file?  seriously, how dumb do you think I am?
[12:20] <doda> Wolfsherz: it will ask you to upgrade to a new version of the distro
[12:20] <tc_busy> fl1bbl3: i am using xchat its showing waiting
[12:20] <tc_busy> ok ikonia
[12:21] <zvacet> Wolfsherz: update manager will do it  :)
[12:21] <drussell> tc_busy: nice ;o)
[12:21] <nitzs> tc_busy: upload it somewhere
[12:21] <Wolfsherz> thank you bazhang, Gnea, doda and zvacet =)
[12:21] <Gnea> !pastebin | tc_busy
[12:21] <fl1bbl3> I'm not reading a PDF from an unknown host immaterial of where you put it
[12:21] <tc_busy> ok
[12:21] <Gnea> fl1bbl3: you could always use clamscan on it
[12:22] <fl1bbl3> Gnea: lol, very funny
[12:22] <a7x> yeah "ubunut" was a long shot guys :D
[12:22] <doda> https://www.facebook.com/ubuntulinux should i report this page ?
[12:22] <Gnea> :)
[12:22] <fl1bbl3> because AV is awesome and always finds nasty stuff in pdf's
[12:22] <nitzs> tc_busy: please upload it somewhere if you are so desparate to send it to someone.
[12:22] <Gnea> doda: no, someone just made a typo
[12:22] <a7x> http://www.ubunut.com/ <- is this a fake website or what?
[12:22] <nitzs> yes
[12:23] <tc_busy> nitzs no i said a failed update wont afect linux only that
[12:23] <MrKeuner> how do you add applications to autostart in precise?
[12:23] <tc_busy> affect*8
[12:23] <a7x> and that typo actually exists.
[12:23] <doda> Gnea: ok
[12:23] <doda> what is the official fb page ?
[12:23] <zvacet> a7x: download from http://releases.ubuntu.com/precise/
[12:23] <tehowe> The torrents just kicked in for me
[12:24] <zvacet> a7x:   and use torrent if you can,please
[12:24] <Millenaire> tc_busy, If you could upload the file somewhere, I'd like the PDF
[12:24] <Kriss3d> Urg.. ubuntu.com is down.. or at least very slow
[12:24] <a7x> zvacet, gonna run the update, i'm not gonna download the whole thing.
[12:24] <joemppe> why aren't there any md5 hashes on the official download page?
[12:24] <x43L0Pr7> Kriss3d: Ubuntu.com is SLOW.
[12:24] <Kriss3d> yeah
[12:24] <x43L0Pr7> I think torrent is the best soloution.
[12:24] <zvacet> a7x: ok good luck
[12:24] <zeny_> Is there any way to see how much you have uploaded via torrent? (Online, not in client)
[12:24] <Kriss3d> im at work. cant do torrents
[12:25] <dr-willis> updateing basucally does download the wjole thing
[12:25] <x43L0Pr7> Well , there are mirrors.
[12:25] <tc_busy> helo
[12:25] <a7x> ty
[12:25] <tc_busy> am i in
[12:25] <stoneman> probably you answered this question... but someone please tell me
[12:26] <dr-willis> in an hr or so tirrents will be blazeing fast.
[12:26] <zvacet> a7x:np  :)
[12:26] <stoneman> why download
[12:26] <stoneman> link don't work
[12:26] <lestus> im on xubuntu, do i still count as ubuntu user? :P
[12:26] <stoneman> for ubuntu 12.04 :)
[12:26] <dr-willis> stoneman: server overload
[12:26] <stoneman> aa clear now :)
[12:26] <Gnea> stoneman: get a torrent or wait
[12:26] <doda> lestus: yeah :D
[12:26] <stoneman> can't wait
[12:26] <tehowe> People, if I've downloaded the dailies from yesterday (actually dated 12/04/23 for the most part) are we 99.9% sure the ISOs are the same? I want to do a mini-install party at the local cafe but don't want to wait to download them again today if I don't have to
[12:26] <stoneman> torret >>>>
[12:27] <doda> everybody should use torrents
[12:27] <zvacet> lestus: well, it is hard to say  ;)
[12:27] <lestus> hehe kewl
[12:27] <samfisher> hi. I want to install ubuntu on 5 pcs and I need to do it simoultaneously. I don't want to burn 5CDs. how could i do that?
[12:27] <dr-willis> samfisher:  netboot install
[12:27] <dr-willis> from one pc on the lan
[12:28] <bounty> someone can tell me the difference between ubuntu and kubuntu ? which is the best ?
[12:28] <stoneman> hey Gnea can you give me link for 64 bit ubuntu 12.04 torrent?
[12:28] <zvacet> !apt-cacher
[12:28] <dr-willis> bounty:  use both. you decide
[12:28] <zvacet> bounty: same os but different desktop environments
[12:29] <Lebby> bounty:  they have same core but different windows environment
[12:29] <dr-willis> !insrall
[12:29] <samfisher> dr-willis: do I need a server?
[12:29] <bounty> i can install both ?
[12:29] <zvacet> stoneman: http://releases.ubuntu.com/precise/
[12:29] <samfisher> dr-willis: and can I preconfigure the Ubuntu? so it will install the same config on all?
[12:29] <Lebby> bounty:  K-ubuntu use Kde. Ubuntu use gnome
[12:29] <dr-willis> samfisher:  with some work.. yes
[12:30] <stoneman> ok
[12:30] <pwasek> WHat is a good backup program to use on ubuntu servers?
[12:30] <dr-willis> !install
[12:30] <stoneman> i thought that is corrent just to check is it a final version... :)
[12:30] <doda> bounty: ubuntu uses unity windows shell (the look and feel of the desktop + gnome apps), while kubuntu uses plasma shell + kde apps, they are only the toppings of a common base and you can use them both on a same system
[12:31] <pietro10> Hi. I downloaded the .deb for an alternate broadcom driver after checking the error message from being unable to connect. How do I place it so that additional drivers installs from that deb instead of trying to download? Thanks.
[12:31] <bounty> so i can install ubuntu and then decide to use kde or gnome ?
[12:31] <Steevca> Hi.
[12:31] <dr-willis> pietro10:  you dont as far as i know.
[12:32] <dr-willis> pietro10:  install the deb. hope it works
[12:32] <Narsil> Hi, I have 12.04 beta 2, do I need to upgrade it? if yes, how?
[12:32] <dr-willis> or use its ppa if it exists
[12:32] <pietro10> dr-willis: so what can I do? before I could only get online if I booted into windows first, but thanks to a file somehow magically corrupting (???) I'll have to wait until I can get a working CD drive...
[12:32] <pietro10> :/
[12:32] <Kriss3d> bounty ofcourse.. you can pick anything you like.. i removed unity in 11.10 and installed gnome 3 to make it look like gnome2
[12:32] <arnsa> https://twitter.com/#!/Linux/status/195484423708360704
[12:32] <arnsa> gogo update ubuntu
[12:32] <doda> bounty: yeah, you can install it
[12:32] <dr-willis> Narsil:  id wait a day or two
[12:33] <neL> bounty: yes, you can always do that. sudo apt-get install kubuntu-desktop will install kde and sudo apt-get install gnome-shell will install gnome shell
[12:33] <zvacet> bounty: install ubunut and then you can add kde witch is desktop environment for kubuntu see http://www.psychocats.net/ubuntu/kde
[12:33] <pietro10> is there a database of what commands jockey will run when I choose to install the driver?
[12:33] <dr-willis> pietro10:  boot from usb perhaps
[12:33] <bounty> ok i try , tnx
[12:34] <Multiply> Is there a way to check which version a specific package in 12.04 is, without running 12.04?
[12:34] <Narsil> dr-willis, ok, thanks.
[12:34] <pietro10> I can't right now; this is a connectivity issue anyway
[12:34] <dr-willis> pietro10:  i imagine it does a simple apt-get install whatwver
[12:34] <DrManhattan> look at you guys rolling out ahead of schedule. Good job.
[12:34] <pietro10> ok
[12:35] <Ztane> is there a separate channel for UEC?
[12:35] <dr-willis> !uec
[12:35] <dr-willis> wonder what uec is
[12:35] <Steevca> Is ubuntu 12.04 supported here now?
[12:35] <Pici> Ztane: #ubuntu-server
[12:36] <Gorilla_No_Baka> hello there..
[12:36] <Shape> Multiply: Of course
[12:36] <steveccc> hi all - I have 10.04 installed now and am hoping to install 12.04 by overwriting the / and other partitions but leave /home alone so keep the data - is this ok or should it be done a different way?
[12:36] <Shape> Steevca: Of course. Read the topic.
[12:36] <Steevca> Oh,i missed that.
[12:36] <Multiply> Shape: Well, how? :P
[12:36] <whoever_> hi all is there an av that will activly watch and scan a directory avast apears to be manual
[12:36] <Gorilla_No_Baka> i got a problem with libquvi.. Namely  is 0.2.15 and i need 0.4.0
[12:36] <dr-willis> Steevca:  your home is on its own partition?
[12:36] <Gorilla_No_Baka> any ideas?
[12:36] <avij> hi, does someone have a torrent for ubuntu-12.04-dvd-amd64.iso ? can't find that anywhere.
[12:37] <steveccc> dr-willis: yes its separate partition - basically 20gb for / and swap..... and then the rest of the disk /home
[12:37] <Gorilla_No_Baka> avij:  why bovver? a lot faster to download the iso image from the ubuntu site
[12:37] <dr-willis> steveccc:  thats doable then
[12:37] <jas4711> ubuntu site doesn't work for me...
[12:37] <Gorilla_No_Baka> why not?
[12:38] <zvacet> steveccc: then you can do want you asked
[12:38] <neL> http://www.ubuntu.com/download/desktop/alternative-downloads
[12:38] <steveccc> dr-willis: is ext4 the standard partition now?
[12:38] <Steevca> Ok,so i have 11.10 now,and when i used the live cd i couldn't connect to the internet,network manager couldn't detect the netwrok.So,can i install wicd on 11.10 and the upadte to 12.04 with upate manager,without going back to network manager?
[12:38] <dr-willis> faster to use torrents
[12:38] <Gorilla_No_Baka> dr-willis:  lol
[12:38] <flipp_> anybody got a mirror for the 64 bit live cd iso?
[12:38] <jas4711> i just get 'waiting for www.ubuntu.com...' in my browser...
[12:38] <tehowe> MD5s, for whoever asked: http://releases.ubuntu.com/precise/MD5SUMS
[12:38] <dr-willis> steveccc:  has been for sime time
[12:38] <zvacet> jas4711: doyou want to download?
[12:38] <MonkeyDust> running do-release-upgrade here
[12:39] <avij> Gorilla_No_Baka: I'd need the torrent for my torrent seedbox. I'm not planning to install it.
[12:39] <neL> they should scale ubuntu.com instead of fixing bugs
[12:39] <neL> :P
[12:39] <x43L0Pr7> Oh man.
[12:39] <jas4711> zvacet, yes. any link to some usable site will be appreciated :-)
[12:39] <steveccc> dr-willis: I think my 10.04 is ext3 - is there a convenient way to upgrade or is it a matter of backing up data, formatting and then restoring?
[12:39] <Shape> Multiply: http://packages.ubuntu.com/precise/
[12:39] <x43L0Pr7> Somebody can paste me the torrent link from their site ?
[12:39] <x43L0Pr7> It's stuck for me.
[12:39] <Shape> Multiply: All I had to do was google "ubuntu packages" :) Google is your friend.
[12:39] <zvacet> jas4711: http://releases.ubuntu.com/precise/   and use torrent please
[12:39] <wcchandler> does anybody have a magnet link for the 12.04 images?
[12:40] <buzzkill> ftp://mirrors.supsec.org/pub/linux/ubuntu-releases/12.04
[12:40] <papachan> hello
[12:40] <jas4711> i thought they were going to recommend 64-bit for desktops, but when I managed to access www.ubuntu.com it preferred 32-bit.  is 32-bit preferred for desktops?
[12:40] <wcchandler> buzzkill: thanks :)
[12:40] <whoever_> anyone , or are they all manual
[12:40] <iceroot> jas4711: normally it should changed to amd64, yes
[12:40] <papachan> i dont have enough space on my disk to update Ubuntu precise pengolin
[12:40] <Steevca> When i want to run wicd i get : rename failed.
[12:40] <buzzkill> not sure if it is what you were looking for wcchandler. but it is direct
[12:40] <papachan> do i must reinstall it?
[12:40] <iceroot> jas4711: that was my last info i got
[12:40] <pietro10> ...and now I'm not seeing *any* connections?
[12:40] <zvacet> jas4711: depends of your comp
[12:40] <x43L0Pr7> Well, should I run 32 bit or 64 bit ?
[12:40] <papachan> or just run gparted to try to resize partition?
[12:41] <iceroot> x43L0Pr7: 64bit if your cpu can do it
[12:41] <tokinwhiteman> hey if i have the 12.04 final beta installed, do i need to do any updates? the software center says up to date
[12:41] <x43L0Pr7> iceroot: OK.
[12:41] <x43L0Pr7> 10x.
[12:41] <MonkeyDust> x43L0Pr7  if you have 64 bit hardware, you can use 64bit
[12:41] <x43L0Pr7> I will.
[12:41] <iceroot> tokinwhiteman: then you have 12.04 final
[12:41] <paullenass> gello
[12:41] <x43L0Pr7> can somebody paste me the torrent link for 64 bit ?
[12:41] <pietro10> ok let's try again
[12:41] <paullenass> hello
[12:41] <paullenass> lol
[12:41] <x43L0Pr7> I can't enter Ubuntu.co
[12:41] <iceroot> !torrents | x43L0Pr7
[12:41] <pietro10> My wireless - BCM4312 - will not work unless I boot into Windows first. How do I fix it? Thanks.
[12:41] <paullenass> What servers are for CS 1.6 GTH's?
[12:41] <x43L0Pr7> thanks :)
[12:41] <zvacet> tokinwhiteman: use updates to get final release
[12:42] <buzzkill> ftp://mirrors.supsec.org/pub/linux/ubuntu-releases/12.04/ubuntu-12.04-desktop-amd64.iso.torrent
[12:42] <x43L0Pr7> Oh YEAHH !
[12:42] <freakabcd> hi all.. is there something wrong with the installer? I have reached the final stage: "Any questions?" and it seems to be downloading some stuff from the internet as i can see the wireless light blinking on my laptop
[12:42] <freakabcd> i don;t really see any activity: neither on the usb stick with the live iso nor on the hdd of the laptop
[12:43] <steveccc> if i have a copy of 12.04 release candidate from a week ago downloaded - is there any point getting the full iso now or should i just use that and upgrade?
[12:43] <freakabcd> almost feels like it is simply downloading the twitter feed and making me wait for no reason
[12:43] <steveccc> upgrade / update
[12:43] <neL> Is everybody doing a fresh install since everybody is downloading ISO. People don't have faith on dist-upgrade o_O
[12:43] <tokinwhiteman> steveccc: the apt-get update/upgrade says im up to date
[12:43] <zvacet> steveccc:  just do updates and you will be fine
[12:43] <derspankster> I have little faith in the upgrade process
[12:44] <iceroot> steveccc: redownload the full iso or use the beta iso and dist-upgrade
[12:44] <yassu> when can we expect Lubuntu? Ubuntu is out
[12:44] <papachan> guys, I dont have enough space to install Precise Pengolin, do i must reinstall all from zero? or just use Gpartition to enable more disk space? which solution do you suggest me?
[12:44] <iceroot> yassu: lubuntu is out too
[12:44] <x43L0Pr7> !torrents
[12:44] <neL> derspankster: why ? I curious. Does it break various packages  ?
[12:44] <Bennlucky7> guys, so  i must download the iso if my beta can be final release??
[12:44] <iceroot> yassu: http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/lubuntu/releases/12.04/release/
[12:44] <Shape> neL: Or some people want to start all over because the system is all cluttered with stuff from experimenting.
[12:45] <somsip>  neL: last three upgrades I've don have been do-release-upgrade with no real problems but I'll be waiting a few days this time
[12:45] <Narsil> I just installed the beta 2, and did some configs, I wouldn't install it again...
[12:45] <neL> Shape: That sounds like a fair reason
[12:45] <Bennlucky7> how my beta can be final release  guys?
[12:45] <yassu> iceroot, thanks
[12:46] <Pici> !final | Bennlucky7
[12:46] <neL> somsip: I too wait for sometime always. somehow breaking production or developments environments is not a good thing
[12:46] <zvacet> Narsil: jusy update your system
[12:46] <dr-willis> Bennlucky7:  update magic
[12:46] <zvacet> *just
[12:46] <Raydiation> damn people keep ddosing ubuntu.com :D
[12:46] <Shape> neL: But yeah, I do agree that I would prefer a fresh install even if it wasn't cluttered. The reason is if something doesn't work or something goes weird, I can always rule out some bug caused by the upgrade.
[12:46] <pietro10> My wireless - BCM4312 - will not work unless I boot into Windows first. The OpenWRT 4312mod thing won't let me connect to anything; the official Broadcom drivers show no connections at all.How do I fix it? Thanks.
[12:46] <Bennlucky7> okay yhx
[12:46] <somsip> neL: zactly - I have a long weekend this weekend so I'm happy to try it then and watch the forums for a while first to look for issues
[12:46] <Narsil> zvacet, I did. So is it final now?
[12:47] <zvacet> Narsil: yes it is  :)
[12:47] <derspankster> neL: I have had issues in the past - yes broken packages, incomplete installation etc. I've been with Ubuntu a long time, perhaps that's all fixed bu I'm leery.
[12:47] <black_> i have a .run file, and i want to run it as root, is there a way from terminal
[12:47] <neL> Shape: but if you make lot of changes in /etc and other places then ?
[12:47] <neL> Shape: do you use etckeeper ?
[12:47] <action09> hi all
[12:47] <decksmasher> Hi...ive just put my XP disc in to my Ubuntu machine to download it to V-Box and it sais the disc is blank.?
[12:48] <metacoder> https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+cdmirrors  Official CD Mirrors for Ubuntu
[12:48] <davis776> hello, is safe to upgrade ubuntu server 11.10 to 12.04?
[12:48] <kjs_> lol the site is down, i guess they are updating it?
[12:48] <Shape> neL: No, i'm actually very noob and just learning linux, and I've already messed with many things. Also, I personalized it in many ways and I just wrote a notepad with things I did, so I can always redo them. Again another reason is just in case some packages break so I won't have to worry about that and rule that possibility out.
[12:49] <joemppe> davis776, well, it won't explode in your face into thousands of burning chunks of PCB
[12:49] <Shape> neL: Rather than just bumping into a problem and then some Captain Obvious telling me "Have you done a fresh install?"
[12:49] <dskw> i didnt realise ubuntu.com uses drupal. heh
[12:49] <cvr> davis776, not recommended to upgrade a server on release day
[12:49] <derspankster> Why is everyone in such a hurry to upgrade?
[12:49] <kjs_> Haha very pro ;)
[12:49] <black_> i have a .run file, and i want to run it as root, is there a way from terminal
[12:49] <neL> Shape: in that case, that is indeed the best approach. we have all been there
[12:49] <neL> Man! it makes me sad to notice that sad drupal face on ubuntu.com
[12:49] <nitzs> black_: sudo ./yourfile.run
[12:49] <somya> wlan0 device is not showing up in network devices. I am not able to connect to my wireless network. Can anyone please help me out how to repair this I am using ubuntu 11.04 Thanks in advance for you help :)
[12:49] <buzzkill> black_:  sudo ./<whatever>.run
[12:50] <MonkeyDust> derspankster  the thrill of a new beginning, maybe?
[12:50] <dr-willis> black_:  what is that .run file
[12:50] <action09> as the ubuntu website seems heavy loaded i presume 12.04 is out..
[12:50] <black_> thank you nitzs and buzzkill
[12:50] <Shape> neL: But keep in mind I have no detailed technical reasons to give you because I'm just learning linux. :)
[12:50] <aemaeth> i get a page saying technical error
[12:50] <action09> do you ned some bandwitdth ? i'm going to search for a torrent to seed
[12:50] <derspankster> MonkeyDust: Yeah, I understand but I'll wait till the smoke clears myself.
[12:50] <liquidat> action09: Yes, for a couple of seconds I glimpsed the release banner, it is out ;)
[12:50] <nitzs> aemaeth: the site is overloaded. try later.
[12:50] <buzzkill> ftp://mirrors.supsec.org/pub/linux/ubuntu-releases/12.04
[12:50] <ManDay> Is it me or is ubuntu.com down?
[12:50] <Narsil> ugh, apt-get update is not working too.
[12:51] <Narsil> MadDay, its down
[12:51] <black_> dr-willis ,  metasploit
[12:51] <ManDay> nitzs: ah ok
[12:51] <liquidat> ManDay: Its down for everyone - 12.04 is out.
[12:51] <decksmasher> Hi...ive just put my XP disc in to my Ubuntu machine to download it to Virtual-Box and it sais the disc is blank.? Thanks
[12:51] <Pici> !mirrors
[12:51] <davis776> http://releases.ubuntu.com/precise/ works ok
[12:51] <neL> Shape: As i said we have all been there. Even I used to sit years ago with the live CD. Mess up, wipe out, reinstall. Somehow that cycle is very fast in linux -- totally scary in windows
[12:51] <ManDay> Anyone know how long it takes for Kubuntu then?
[12:51] <nitzs> decksmasher: can you boot from that disc?
[12:51] <decksmasher> Yes
[12:51] <steveccc> my i386 download isnt that quick - are most people using the 64bit nowadays?
[12:51] <steveccc> torrent that is
[12:52] <LeV91> !torrents
[12:52] <lexxmt> 12.04 is really out?
[12:52] <decksmasher> I have used it to download xp on my desktop
[12:52] <joemppe> steveccc, probably, yeah
[12:52] <buzzkill> steveccc:  if the processor supports it, yes.
[12:52] <pietro10> is there a better channel for my question
[12:52] <dr-willis> decksmasher:  configure vbox to use the real cd drive. or make an iso file of it
[12:52] <lexxmt> I still see in testing on web
[12:52] <decksmasher> but it is a copy?
[12:52] <liquidat> decksmasher: What do you mean by "download"? And who gives an error message telling "the disc is blank"?
[12:52] <davis776> joemppe: and what about HDD space, it is gonna be circa the same?
[12:53] <decksmasher> ON the desktop it sais a blank disc
[12:53] <steveccc> is there an upgrade process from ext3 to ext4 or does it have to be a reformat and restore?
[12:53] <Zontax> hi, i installed Ubuntu 12.04 on my vm but the Vmtools couldn't be installed, <unable to mout the disk> ?
[12:53] <Shape> neL: In Windows you have to do it anyway because it just works slower by the day no matter how much you defrag or uninstall programs. I'm glad I found out about Linux.
[12:53] <joemppe> davis776, it's going to download a whole bunch of packages so make sure you have some free space
[12:53] <joemppe> davis776, what does "df -h" say?
[12:53] <lexxmt> Zontax you can upgrade to ext4 and keep all data
[12:54] <decksmasher> DR_willis Thanks.make an iso.
[12:54] <davis776> joemppe: I have 13G free, but it will clean after upgrade right?
[12:54] <MonkeyDust> davis776  here too, installer removes some obsolete packages
[12:54] <liquidat> decksmasher: I have no idea what you used to "download" the disc image to your desktop, but most likely you just created a link. As dr-willis said, just configure vbox to use the real cd drive, and put in the real disc there.
[12:54] <Zontax> lexxmt, how ? apt-get upgrade ?
[12:54] <joemppe> yeah, it will
[12:54] <neL> Shape: yeah, something everything manages to become bloated no matter how much you fix it in windows. I am glad that you found linux
[12:54] <neL> *yeah, somehow everything
[12:55] <lexxmt> Zontax: http://maketecheasier.com/how-to-upgrade-from-ext3-to-ext4-without-formatting-the-hard-disk/2009/04/21
[12:55] <Voziv> Hello, I'm getting an "ambiguous redirect" error on a script I wrote, but only when it's called from a cron job. If I call it myself it works just fine. It's ever since I added hours, minutes, and seconds to the filename. Any ideas? Here is a paste of a working line and an invalid line along with the error
[12:55] <DamienCassou> hi, is there a torrent url?
[12:55] <flipp_> anybody got a direct link to the wubi.exe fpr 12.04?
[12:55] <Zontax> lexxmt, thnx mate, gonna take a look
[12:55] <flipp_> for*
[12:55] <joemppe> davis776, if it does install extraneous packages, you can try to remove some manually
[12:55] <aemaeth> DamienCassou: http://releases.ubuntu.com/12.04/
[12:55] <buzzkill> flipp_:  ftp://mirrors.supsec.org/pub/linux/ubuntu-releases/12.04
[12:55] <joemppe> but I'm sure there won't be much of a differnece
[12:55] <flipp_> thanks buzzkill
[12:56] <davis776> joemppe: : I have installed PHP from other repository that ubuntu's and looks like it going to overwrite it, any way to disable this?
[12:56] <zvacet> !torrents
[12:56] <joemppe> davis776, you should disable the other repository before upgrading
[12:56] <DamienCassou> aemaeth: thank you
[12:56] <`z> so hello
[12:56] <Jonathan___> hello
[12:56] <`z> does anyone have any idea
[12:56] <joemppe> davis776, install the ubuntu version or just remove php altogether
[12:57] <`z> how to use a htc touch2 running wm6.5.5 as a sms gateway?
[12:57] <joemppe> then upgrade and reinstall after that
[12:57] <zvacet> by
[12:57] <`z> planning to do a small project
[12:57] <anomalies> hi all
[12:57] <davis776> joemppe: ok, thanks :)
[12:57] <joemppe> davis776, np
[12:57] <joemppe> in general, it's best to disable anu unofficial repos
[12:57] <joemppe> they tend to break your upgrades
[12:57] <anomalies> just wanna help another fellow.. if you had problem download with torrent.. you guys can go to http://allyourbasebelongto.us & don't forget to check md5 sum
[12:58] <anomalies> http://allyourbasebelongto.us/~iso/
[12:58] <metacoder> What's more in the DVD? ubuntu-12.04-dvd-i386.iso
[12:58] <Pessimist> ubuntu.com down?
[12:58] <Jonathan___> yes
[12:58] <Pici> !mirrors
[12:59] <buzzkill> ftp://mirrors.supsec.org/pub/linux/ubuntu-releases/12.04
[12:59] <gorski> !torrents
[12:59] <Pessimist> yeah thank you
[13:00] <tehowe> What can you use to burn to multiple drives? Brasero just burtnt to one drive for me
[13:00] <MonkeyDust> ok, 64 bit iso is in
[13:00] <anomalies> http://allyourbasebelongto.us/~iso/ < prefer dl-ed by indonesian.. got local backbone speed 100Mbps :)
[13:00] <_r00t_> What chance do I have of downgrading 12.04 -> 10.04 using this guide ? https://help.ubuntu.com/community/DowngradeHowto *serious face*
[13:00] <lestus> Is Ubuntu the exact same thing as Debian, but with a pretty interface?
[13:00] <en1gma> i see ubuntu site is down. ubuntu 12.04 was released or is it getting ready to be released?
[13:00] <aemaeth> !mirrors
[13:00] <Shape> lestus: Look up the word "fork"
[13:01] <Pici> en1gma: its being hammered. The release is out.
[13:01] <satyanash_> lol ubuntu site went offline
[13:01] <Solver> http://www.ubuntu.com/ is looking a bit sick to me
[13:01] <en1gma> awesome
[13:01] <_r00t_> !downgrade
[13:01] <aemaeth> it took almost five minutes to download, i think i want my money back
[13:01] <zykotick9> _r00t_: apt scripts are one way - attempting to downgrade is a BAD idea
[13:02] <metacoder> Xubuntu torrent out --> http://torrent.ubuntu.com:6969/
[13:02] <MonkeyDust> lestus  ubuntu and debian packages are not compatible
[13:02] <Kriss3d> if they had just squeezed it 15 megs more it woulld fit on a cd
[13:02] <Multiply> I guess alot people install from USB? :P
[13:02] <black_> i want to remove metasploit from ubuntu but i can find any thing related to metasploit, what should i do ?
[13:02] <Zontax> i got this, Unable to mount VMware Tools , Not Authorized
[13:03] <Zontax> how to fix it ?
[13:03] <zykotick9> lestus: debian and ubuntu are related, but VERY VERY different
[13:03] <alienaut> hello, i am using beta version can update to new version via update manager
[13:03] <_r00t_> yes very bad idea :(
[13:03] <Pici> !final | alienaut
[13:03] <Guest34683> statik do we have a dail in for the call
[13:04] <_r00t_> Think I'll boot from the 10.04 and check if my raid works before installing 10.04 over 12.04
[13:04] <alienaut> thank you
[13:04] <Pessimist> too bad AMD doesn't give proper support to their gpus on linux :/
[13:04] <aemaeth> Pessimist: they will probably add more cores if you mention it
[13:04]  * _r00t_ ha a busted install - guess I've try both the cds and see how far I get
[13:04] <zirpu> !torrents
[13:06] <nealmcb> I'm puzzled that the torrents still aren't mentioned in the announcement email.  That could offload the site a lot during releases.
[13:07] <black_> any one used metasploit in ubuntu before ?
[13:07] <metacoder> HTTP reply from privet.canonical.com (squid/2.7.STABLE7)  when GETting www.ubuntu.com
[13:07] <metacoder> "    Unable to forward this request at this time.
[13:07] <metacoder> "
[13:07] <neL> #ubuntu is the topmost topic in G+ :)
[13:07] <Pessimist> nealmcb: I agree. Also they should add download links to the offline page
[13:07] <papachan> downloading from http://releases.ubuntu.com/precise/
[13:07] <buzzkill> ftp://mirrors.supsec.org/pub/linux/ubuntu-releases/12.04
[13:08] <metacoder> https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+cdmirrors  <-- complete list of official mirrors
[13:08] <aemaeth> neL: i see "avengers"
[13:08] <alxs> I'm having problems booting 12.04 from usb any suggestions?
[13:08] <Pessimist> And it's the only way of the future as the userbase becomes huger
[13:08] <neL> aemaeth: ah, well second top-most. My bad :)
[13:08] <chaospsychex> ubuntu.com is down?
[13:09] <ogra_> being worked on
[13:09] <munim> so cool. i didn't know ubuntu.com was made in drupal.
[13:09] <joemppe> !down | chaospsychex
[13:09] <joemppe> :P
[13:09] <chaospsychex> mass exodus of window os users trying to grab the site in hopes of migrating to 12.04 ?
[13:09] <dschuett> ubuntu.com = pwned
[13:09] <munim> maybe i should give drupal another shot
[13:10] <sary> alxs: hae you checked the iso hashes !
[13:10] <alienaut> when i write sudo apt-get dist-upgrade it give me error message "E: Sub-process /usr/bin/dpkg returned an error code (1)"
[13:10] <digim0nk> Does 12.04 have classic gnome / gnome shell support
[13:10] <sary> !Md5sum > alxs
[13:10] <MonkeyDust> chaospsychex  obviously
[13:10] <nitzs> alienaut: the server is down probably.
[13:11] <grnt> Can I upgrade Ubuntu just by changing repos in sources.list? update-manager-core pulls tons of garbage back
[13:11] <Arnold> digim0nk, yes, by installing either "gnome-panel" or the "gnome-shell" package
[13:11] <Jonathan___> apt-get update is failing too
[13:11] <jrib> grnt: not supported, no
[13:11] <alienaut> ah. but i am updating other computer but not distro upgrade
[13:11] <MonkeyDust> Jonathan___  do-release-upgrade running here
[13:11] <tehowe> How do I burn to multiple drives in Ubuntu??
[13:11] <nitzs> grnt: you can. but not having the garbage might break you new system.
[13:12] <grnt> jrib: what (or how) exactly will be broken?
[13:12] <joemppe> grnt, I did that once when the official updater pooped out
[13:12] <joemppe> broke everything though
[13:12] <kjs_> if anyone needs 12.04 download links while the site is down http://linuxmoz.com/ubuntu-12-04-download/
[13:12] <jrib> grnt: if you're fairly experienced then you can try but do not be surprised if you need to use a hammer once in a while
[13:12] <buzzkill> ftp://mirrors.supsec.org/pub/linux/ubuntu-releases/12.04
[13:12] <digim0nk> Arnold, thanks .. so after the install just install gnome 3 and set as default
[13:13] <jrib> grnt: (i.e. upgrades may fail and you need to resolve dependencies and issues to continue)
[13:13] <grnt> ok, I'll jut try and let you know. I'm running from usb install created specifically to play around )
[13:13] <Arnold> digim0nk, once you installed either of the packages, you'll have more desktop manager options during login: the "default" will be the last used
[13:14] <Arthur_D> hi, I have a netbook with Ubuntu 10.04 Netbook Edition, and I have not been offered to upgrade to 12.04. Since the netbook edition was put in the normal distribution, does this mean I'll have to do a clean install of vanilla Ubuntu?
[13:14] <GG111> can somebody here confirm that they can get to ubuntu.com ?
[13:15] <zykotick9> GG111: it's down...
[13:15] <ogra_> GG111, its down and being fixed currently
[13:15] <alienaut> OMG! what happened to servers
[13:15] <MonkeyDust> GG111  that's how popular it is
[13:15] <digim0nk> Arnold, cool .. thanks
[13:15] <GG111> wow... what's up with that..
[13:15] <GG111> MonkeyDust: one should be ready for this
[13:15] <Arnold> You're welcome digim0nk
[13:15] <tyteen4a03> is it just me or is the ubuntu website overloaded?
[13:15] <tarzeau> http://uptime.netcraft.com/up/graph?site=www.ubuntu.com ah they're still on apache2
[13:15] <ububuntu> when commes on distrowawtch is every time down ;)
[13:15] <GG111> I'm all for Ubuntu. but were the sys-admins there napping or something ?
[13:16] <blez> ubuntu.com doesn't work?
[13:16] <Pici> GG111: They're hard at work.
[13:16] <Jonathan___> the server is busy
[13:16] <tarzeau> they should switch to nginx
[13:16] <DNX> is ubuntu.com down?
[13:16] <nitzs> tarzeau: what makes you say that?
[13:16] <hal> anyone know about oprofile on precise? Like why it's gone?
[13:17] <tyteen4a03> DNX: yes
[13:17] <joemppe> we really need a !down keyword
[13:17] <alienaut> is it because so many client on the server? or is it attacked?
[13:17] <zykotick9> joemppe: +1
[13:17] <tyteen4a03> and probably somebody should put that on topic
[13:17] <GG111> Pici: they should be, people get fired for this kind of things, I don't need to be mean.
[13:17] <tyteen4a03> alienaut: I would guess 12.04
[13:17] <IWorld> http://www.isup.me/ubuntu.com
[13:17] <tarzeau> nitzs: experience
[13:17] <Sjimmie> I just did an upgrade from ubuntu server 10.04 to 12.04 and it crashed. Now I'm stuck with this message http://pastebin.com/bGecwns5
[13:17] <kjs_> DB can't take requests i suspect...
[13:17] <Sjimmie> anyone any suggestions? I did an LTS -> LTS upgrade
[13:17] <designbybeck> tarzeau:  i've never tried nginx...but i saw they had an update.... what makes it better?
[13:18] <_nor> hi, can anyone tell me where i can find logs for init.d scripts?
[13:18] <kjs_> Sjimmie: http://linuxmoz.com/how-to-upgrade-to-ubuntu-12-04/ ?
[13:18] <Pici> hal: Looks like it was removed from debian, and thus removed from Ubuntu. See http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=653168
[13:18] <iceroot> great now everyone is using the torrents and the torrent-tracker is so much under fire.. :)
[13:18] <tarzeau> designbybeck: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nginx
[13:18] <GG111> Pici: Do you use the envelpoe  in Unity for mail notification ?
[13:18] <Pici> GG111: I don't use unity.
[13:18] <kjs_> tarzeau: got a link for the torrent ?
[13:18] <buzzkill> ftp://mirrors.supsec.org/pub/linux/ubuntu-releases/12.04
[13:19] <GG111> I see, well, I started lately. one last thing left before I call it perfect for me.
[13:19] <Sjimmie> kjs_: that is what i did but during the do-release-upgrade it crashed
[13:19] <zykotick9> !torrents | kjs_
[13:19] <alienaut> i hope i will be ok soon i was planning to go out after i upgrade my system :/
[13:19] <MonkeyDust> Sjimmie  i'm doing it the same way, all looks fine for now
[13:19] <Konata> I want my precise download.
[13:19] <Konata> :|
[13:19] <Sjimmie> It crashed here during the gcc upgrades
[13:20] <GG111> I'm getting a full blown  "unable to connet" now :)
[13:20] <hal> Pici: Thanks!
[13:20] <joemppe> Sjimmie, can you remove the offending packages?
[13:20] <anomalies> http://allyourbasebelongto.us/~iso/ | Ubuntu 12.04 LTS | Indonesia Mirror local backbone 100Mbps
[13:20] <albech> ubuntu.com down for everyone?
[13:20] <MonkeyDust> the rumble in the ubuntu jungle, i love it
[13:20] <zykotick9> albech: yes, it's not just you.
[13:20] <meadhikari> albech, down for me
[13:20] <heckman> http://releases.ubuntu.com/ <-- use this
[13:20] <albech> thanks
[13:20] <wer0ckz> hi guys. need help. im using an asus laptop. everytime i push the power button to sleep / the screen still on but its black.u know what i mean? but in the past using win7 works just fine. but this ubuntu 12 it doest sleep when i push the power button. the battery drains
[13:21] <dskw> seems like canonical.com is down too..
[13:21] <Multiply> Well, seems like one of my servers finally finished upgrading. And it works decently so far :)
[13:21] <GG111> honsestly, I'm kind of angry at them, they can at least have " down, be back soon" , you can have this on a PC on the other side of the world and do a quick DNS divert.
[13:21] <aemaeth> wer0ckz: i'm on an asus, let me test that, brb
[13:21] <alienaut> where can i get torrent for ubuntu 12.04
[13:21] <grnt> packages.ubuntu.com is up
[13:21] <blez> I guess they did something wrong with the 12.
[13:21] <Marzata> wer0ckz: sell it out
[13:22] <zykotick9> !torrents | alienaut
[13:22] <buzzkill> ftp://mirrors.supsec.org/pub/linux/ubuntu-releases/12.04
[13:22] <alienaut> thank you again
[13:22] <pipika> HI, iam building a new kernel and i get this error message " *** Configuration file ".config" not found!         make[2]: *** [silentoldconfig] Error 1 make[1]: ."
[13:22] <grnt> launchpad is up too
[13:22] <aemaeth> wer0ckz: worked for me, i'm in an older version though, and laptop is old.
[13:23] <bounty> i just have a question , about install ubuntu on windows or not , which are the differences ?
[13:23] <tero> so www.ubuntu.com si down. That means that ubuntu server should not be used in most popular sites woth a lot of traffic?
[13:23] <tero> :D
[13:23] <anomalies> http://allyourbasebelongto.us/~iso/ | Ubuntu 12.04 LTS | Indonesia Mirror local backbone 100Mbps "don't forget to check the md5 sum"
[13:23] <GG111> bounty: do you mean as dual boot ? or as a virtual machine ?
[13:24] <elspuddy> hi will 12.04 be availble from the update manger or do i have to download a cd ?
[13:24] <kjs_> what is stable release called?
[13:24] <kjs_> final release ?
[13:24] <heckman> elspuddy: I would wait a day or so before upgrading.
[13:24] <jrib> !upgrade | elspuddy
[13:24] <heckman> elspuddy: mirrors are going to be under heavy use. :P
[13:24] <bounty> dual boot inside windows
[13:24] <_nor> hi, can anyone tell me where i can find logs for init.d scripts?
[13:24] <alienaut> and last question i have 32 bit version on my netbook if i upgrade it to 64 bit version will i lose my data on hdd(files, documents, programs etc.).
[13:24] <jrib> elspuddy: yes make sure you're using a local mirror if you choose to update today
[13:24] <heckman> alienaut: you need to reinstall OS if you are changing from 32=>64-bit
[13:24] <anomalies> alienaut; before it do anything.. the installer will reject
[13:25] <elspuddy> thanks :)
[13:25] <zykotick9> alienaut: 32bit->64bit requires a reinstall (do you have separate /home partition)
[13:25] <pipika> HI, iam building a new kernel and i get this error message " *** Configuration file ".config" not found!         make[2]: *** [silentoldconfig] Error 1 make[1]: ."
[13:25] <hal> "Alternatives exist (perf)" apt-cache show perf is nothing. apt-cache search perf returns a bajillion packages none of which seems to do what oprofile does. Am I missing something or is this just seriously weird? People profile their code right? How?
[13:25] <GG111> bounty: It can't be inside of windows , I'll be clearer : do you mean to have a menu right after you power up the system, that asks you which OS to load ?
[13:25] <anomalies> most if not all netbook only 32bit arch
[13:25] <anomalies> :)
[13:25] <papachan> can i resize the partition size before installing the new ubuntu with gparted?
[13:25] <alienaut> oh! thank you guys
[13:25] <zykotick9> anomalies: my EEEpc is 64bit...
[13:25] <trav1s> hey guys... hoping someone can help me with vsftp quickly... I have a friend that needs to send a friend of hers  a large movie (about 150MB) email cant handle that obviously...  I set up an FTP server (vsftpd), i have edited the .conf to allow for anonymous login as well as anonymous write... however when i try to write a file to the ftp server it doesnt work... any ideas?
[13:26] <anomalies> most < :)
[13:26] <GG111> trav1s: what errors are you getting
[13:26] <alienaut> have a nice day, thanks a lot again
[13:26] <bounty> i'm i mean use the windows installer , or make a partition separately and reboot the system to install it
[13:26] <joemppe> netbooks circa late 2008 and up tend to be 64 bit
[13:26] <helo> i'm getting an error trying to upgrade: "E: Could not perform immediate configuration on 'libjpeg-dev'."
[13:26] <Vortexianer> hi. i got the ubuntu 12.04 beta 2 installed. is my ubuntu automatically changed to the final version?
[13:27] <iceroot> !final | Vortexianer
[13:27] <MonkeyDust> Vortexianer  yes
[13:27] <OccupyDemonoid> Site is finally up. :)
[13:27] <anomalies> joemppe; i guess i'm old skool then.. :P
[13:27] <GG111> bounty: please use my nick when you reply, the'res noise in the room. Install windows, after that's done, install Ubuntu, Ubuntu will take care of the menu after you boot and let you choose with operting system to load.
[13:27] <anomalies> last netbook i touch is still running atom
[13:27] <Vortexianer> ok. thank you !!
[13:27] <trav1s> GG111 i'm using Internet Explorer in Windows... I get the error:  "An error occured copying a file to the FTP Server. Make sure you have permission to put files on the server.   553 Could not create file"
[13:27] <kjs_> Ok if anyone needs a page to point people for final release mirrors of Ubuntu 12.04 http://linuxmoz.com/ubuntu-12-04-download/
[13:27] <helo> should i abandon attempting to upgrade, and just do a fresh install?
[13:27] <joemppe> anomalies, the newer atom models are 64 bit
[13:27] <kjs_> (while the ubuntu.com is down).
[13:27] <trav1s> GG1111: 553 is a permission denied message from my research
[13:28] <OccupyDemonoid> kjs_, ubuntu.com is up again. :)
[13:28] <GG111> trav1s: you hane annonyoms login, but can annonymus put files on your site ?
[13:28] <Keo-w> yea ubuntu works for me as well
[13:28] <anomalies> joemppe; i guess i need to update my knowledge about netbook.. never touch one again since late 2006
[13:28] <anomalies> i simply give up.. too slow for my work nature
[13:28] <ric8cruz> joemppe, do you recommend installing the 64-bit version?
[13:29] <trav1s> GG111: i do have anonymous login, but cant put files on the site
[13:29] <anomalies> http://allyourbasebelongto.us/~iso/ | Ubuntu 12.04 LTS | Indonesia Mirror local backbone 100Mbps "don't forget to check the md5 sum"
[13:29] <joemppe> this might help: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Intel_Atom_microprocessors#Netbook_processors_.28sub-notebook.29
[13:29] <davis776> joemppe: so, upgrade completed, free space is same as before, only "problem" is just reinstalled php to ubuntu's version :) thank you again
[13:29] <GG111> trav1s: do know how to use putty ?
[13:29] <anomalies> joemppe; thanks dude ;)
[13:29] <trav1s> GG111: lol yes i am sshed in now looking at my config
[13:29] <ric8cruz> joemppe, I was told 64-bit applications requires more memory because pointers are 64-bits
[13:30] <ric8cruz> is there truth to that?
[13:30] <trav1s> i'm about to create a whole new one in fact
[13:30] <GG111> so, you can just sftp to the server and put the file there
[13:30] <ric8cruz> what are the advantages of 64-bit? is it any faster?
[13:30] <GG111> trav1s: so, you can just sftp to the server and put the file there
[13:30] <imetallica> ric8cruz, not exactly but 64bit systems then to be more fat in resources...
[13:30] <trav1s> GG111: yes I can, but the non tech saavy person who needs it is not gonna know how to do all that
[13:30] <tarzeau> ric8cruz: partly, yes, and you can address more memoyr
[13:30] <Morpheus93> Hello evrybody
[13:30] <GG111> what are the premission on the directory ?
[13:30] <zykotick9> ric8cruz: depends what you are doing, for general day-to-day NO.  For encoding media / big number crunching - YES.
[13:31] <GG111> ls -l $sftp directry
[13:31] <trav1s> GG111: i'm trying to figure out where the default FTP directory is
[13:31] <joemppe> ric8cruz, if you're short on memory then you may prefer to use the 32 bit version
[13:31] <ric8cruz> tarzeau, but my notebook only has 1Gb, so there isn't any benefit to the increased scope of pointers
[13:31] <zykotick9> ric8cruz: if you have less then 4GB RAM use 32bit
[13:31] <joemppe> indeed
[13:31] <GG111> trav1s: mmm. I see, I don't know that .
[13:31] <ric8cruz> ok, thanks guys
[13:31] <tarzeau> ric8cruz: i don't think so
[13:31] <GG111> trav1s: qucik google will tell you that.
[13:31] <lineox> I only trust the url direct from ubuntu
[13:31] <tarzeau> ric8cruz: 1 GB memory?
[13:32] <anomalies> lineox; that's the point of md5 checksum
[13:32] <anomalies> :)
[13:32] <rawhite> hi im trying to save/resume a libvirt / kvm machine guest while i reboot my host
[13:32] <lineox> checksum can be faked
[13:32] <ric8cruz> I will update my 32-bit ubuntu, so I guess I would have to do a clean install for the 64-bit version anyhow
[13:32] <rawhite> how could i do this ?
[13:32] <tottto-drummond> ubuntu website back in service
[13:32] <ric8cruz> tarzeau, sure, 1GB. it is a cheap notebook
[13:32] <anomalies> lineox; oh is it? :)
[13:32] <rawhite> ric8cruz: then dont install 64bit :P
[13:32] <tarzeau> ric8cruz: how much GB harddisk?
[13:32] <ric8cruz> tarzeau, I bought it recently. here in Portugal, most Eee PC notebook only have 1GB
[13:33] <rawhite> ric8cruz: if you dont have at least 3G+ there isnt any benefit of using 64bit
[13:33] <ric8cruz> ok, thx
[13:33] <imetallica> Eee PC uses Atom processor right?
[13:33] <ric8cruz> yes
[13:33] <rawhite> imetallica: yes
[13:33] <ric8cruz> at least mine does
[13:33] <imetallica> won't work 64bits
[13:33] <rawhite> imetallica: it has the lm flag
[13:33] <zykotick9> imetallica: some Atoms are 64bit...
[13:34] <tarzeau> zykotick9: most aren't
[13:34] <imetallica> mine's a dual core Atom and it does not work the 64 bits
[13:34] <rawhite> imetallica: at least a netbook that i encountered had that , but it had only 2gb of ram , and it was dualcore with sse3 ssse3 and lm flag
[13:34] <rawhite> tarzeau: do you have the lm flag in the /proc/cpuinfo ?
[13:34] <UICTamale> let me just say that www.ubuntu.com/tour is brilliant.  Well done to all those responsible for that gem.
[13:35] <munim> yay its here
[13:35] <tarzeau> rawhite: yes, what's the lm flag good for?
[13:35] <joemppe> N2xx 32 bit, N4xx, N5xx, N2xxx 54 bit
[13:35] <joemppe> 64*
[13:35] <OccupyDemonoid> Oh, I cannot wait till this torrent is done.
[13:35] <tarzeau> rawhite: wait so all the atom boxes i have here (100+) can do 64bit linux?
[13:35] <rawhite> tarzeau: lm shoudl be the 64bit option
[13:35] <lineox> why md5 can't be trusted enough to download from any source. http://www.win.tue.nl/hashclash/SoftIntCodeSign/
[13:35] <Yud_Zroc> If I add user or make a new profile for a person on my Ubuntu laptop do the drivers and packages I have installed work on the new profile?
[13:35] <rawhite> tarzeau: try to boot one and see for yourself , i didnt tryed :P
[13:36] <tarzeau> rawhite: i guess i'll create 64-bit ltsp chroots now...
[13:36] <bubus> can´t boot into 12.04 i think nouveau freezes my boot, how i boot with old nvidia drivers?
[13:36] <trav1s> GG111: i found the default anon_root directory for vsftpd
[13:36] <zykotick9> Yud_Zroc: drivers would yes
[13:36] <rawhite> tarzeau: not sure :) try it and tell me also please :) i dont have the netbook anymore it was not mine
[13:36] <trav1s> GG111: it's /var/ftp
[13:36] <tarzeau> it says all these: flags: fpu vme de pse tsc msr pae mce cx8 apic mtrr pge mca cmov pat clflush dts acpi mmx fxsr sse sse2 ss ht tm pbe nx lm constant_tsc arch_perfmon pebs bts aperfmperf pni dtes64 monitor ds_cpl tm2 ssse3 cx16 xtpr pdcm movbe lahf_lm dts
[13:36] <hal> apt-get install linux-tools for perf in case anyone actually cares.
[13:36] <joemppe> jeez, just read intel's product specs
[13:36] <rawhite> tarzeau: but whats the point on booting 64bit if you dont have ram to use ?
[13:36] <designbybeck> tarzeau: you use ltsp in an educational setting?
[13:36] <GG111> trav1s: ls -l /var |grep ftp
[13:36] <Yud_Zroc> zykotick9: thankyou....and the packages (such as flash and MP3 etc)?
[13:36] <tarzeau> rawhite: the point is that the ltsp server is running in 64bit
[13:37] <rawhite> ltsp is very nice not just in edu :P in enterprise also :D
[13:37] <joemppe> you're being too linuxy about this
[13:37] <rawhite> tarzeau: oh only 64bit ?
[13:37] <tarzeau> rawhite: and we run condor (wisconsin)
[13:37] <anomalies> joemppe; only "Pineview" & "Cedar-Trail M" are 64bit
[13:37] <designbybeck> in what ways rawhite?
[13:37] <lineox> thank you for your hard work everybody!
[13:37] <zykotick9> Yud_Zroc: any packages, will apply to all users as well (that's both system wide installed stuff)
[13:37] <tarzeau> rawhite: so when ALL hosts are 64bit, people only compile their code to run on all hosts ONCE instead of once for 64-bit hosts and once for 32-bit hosts
[13:37] <Yud_Zroc> zykotick9: thankyou so much
[13:37] <joemppe> anomalies, yeah, what I said
[13:37] <rawhite> how do i tell my kvm guests to save when the host is shut down and resume when the host is booted ?
[13:37] <joemppe> I was looking at nettop atoms earlier when I said late 2009
[13:38] <joemppe> 2008 sorry
[13:38] <anomalies> only Asus use it or there is another vendor?
[13:38] <joemppe> there are plenty
[13:38] <joemppe> samsung is a big one
[13:38] <ric8cruz> UICTamale, thx for the link. the ubuntu tour is really cool indeed. my hat off to those responsible for it.
[13:38] <Mahmoud20070> I can't download ubuntu 12 why???
[13:38] <anomalies> hmm.. might consider buy one.. just to toy with it
[13:38] <OccupyDemonoid> I already seeded 1.0 and I am still downloading 12.04 LTS. That is amazing.
[13:38] <Yud_Zroc> How does one get the "dell dock" or that apple graphical menu mod? i see it in videos all the time, I just dont know what it is called
[13:39] <anomalies> Mahmoud20070; ubuntu got hammered!!
[13:39] <tyteen4a03> Mahmoud20070: make sure you are using a local mirror, the main server are very busy right now
[13:39] <imetallica> Mahmoud20070, try the torrents, they work fine.
[13:39] <ric8cruz> Mahmoud20070, maybe a problem with the mirror
[13:39] <anomalies> http://allyourbasebelongto.us/~iso/ | Ubuntu 12.04 LTS | Indonesia Mirror local backbone 100Mbps "don't forget to check the md5 sum"
[13:39] <china_guang> Can debian 6.0  get wireless card dress from Ubuntu ?
[13:39] <joemppe> I, personally, am drooling for the ultra thin i7s with SSDs and 8GB of ram ;)
[13:39] <zykotick9> rawhite: libvirt/virt-manager support is #virt on irc.oftc.net
[13:39] <trav1s> GG111: drwxr-xr-x  2 root root  4096 2012-04-26 09:32 ftp
[13:39] <Mahmoud20070> i don't like torrents i will wait to night becuase i like to download from http
[13:40] <tarzeau> joemppe: you mean the one with a bitten fruit on it?
[13:40] <lineox> This is the latest 12.04 torrent? www.ubuntu.com/download/desktop/alternative-downloads Why doesn't the download file have LTS?
[13:40] <trav1s> clearly that is wrong
[13:40] <yunosh> any idea why the update manager is going to remove git when upgrading to precise?
[13:40] <Yud_Zroc> china_guang: you would have to set up the repos in the package manager, but its not 100% to work
[13:40] <anomalies> joemppe; i'm currently use i5 2nd gen with ssd and 8gb of ram  :)
[13:40] <joemppe> tarzeau, that's just one OEM
[13:40] <lineox> I like Torrents because md5 is built in and the torrent link was from Ubuntu. Isn't that the most secure thing ever?
[13:40] <KeithWeisshar> I'm having trouble staring the ubuntu 12.04 download from the ubuntu website
[13:40] <GG111> trav1s: well, that's fine.
[13:40] <imetallica> KeithWeisshar, try the torrents
[13:40] <joemppe> anomalies, sounds good
[13:40] <KeithWeisshar> i tried to start the download but it won't even start
[13:40] <anomalies> i don't think for notebook it will much give any significant improvement for i7
[13:41] <GG111> it's not Linux permmisions, most likely with you server permissions.. did you follow a step by step guide ?
[13:41] <imetallica> KeithWeisshar, go to the alternatives page and get the torrent
[13:41] <anomalies> joemppe; well.. it's a thinkpad. :)
[13:41] <lineox> KeithWeisshar: you are not honoring distrubuted computing and overloading the server.
[13:41] <trav1s> GG111: brb gotta do something really quick
[13:41] <OccupyDemonoid> KeithWeisshar, Have you tried downloading it via bittorrent? I have no problem with it that way.
[13:42] <KeithWeisshar> i don't have bittorrent installed
[13:42] <joemppe> I've learned not to skimp on CPU purchases
[13:42] <KeithWeisshar> the isp throttles it
[13:42] <lineox> I got it coming down fast at 1 meg per second my top speed thanks to torrent. even throttled.
[13:42] <Jeff123> Can anyone advise on if its worth installing 64-bit Ubuntu?
[13:42] <KeithWeisshar> is there a usa mirror
[13:42] <OccupyDemonoid> KeithWeisshar, You could download the .iso though the alternative page. I also had success with that.
[13:42] <anomalies> i5 + ssd + 8gb memory already awesome, why the need of i7? :)
[13:42] <Multiply> I got it down at almost 19mb a sec, lol
[13:42] <imetallica> Jeff123, how much RAM you have?
[13:43] <designbybeck> tarzeau:  and rawhite have you used iTALC for enterprise management? maybe traning room labs or the like?
[13:43] <Jeff123> 4GB
[13:43] <imetallica> yes
[13:43] <KeithWeisshar> does the web download use the nearest server based on ip address
[13:43] <tarzeau> designbybeck: nope, never heard of it. url?
[13:43] <KeithWeisshar> does it use the random mirror
[13:43] <Jeff123> I note 32 bit is recommended. Any idea why?
[13:43] <designbybeck> tarzeau: http://sourceforge.net/projects/italc/
[13:43] <tarzeau> designbybeck: we're using dphys-config though (since we developed it)
[13:43] <Yud_Zroc> joemppe: ya, if i dont spend at least....minimal 100 on mine and it must have at least 4 cores...i kind of get finiky
[13:43] <joemppe> so you have bragging rights over a greater number of people? :)
[13:43] <indystor1> hi
[13:43] <designbybeck> or this tarzeau http://italc.sourceforge.net/
[13:43] <tehowe> How do I burn to multiple drives in Ubuntu?
[13:43] <lineox> KeithWeisshar: this was posted a few minutes ago here ftp://mirrors.supsec.org/pub/linux/ubuntu-releases/12.04
[13:43] <odinsbane> I hope to d/load and install this afternoon. Is gnome-shell in the default repos?
[13:44] <tehowe> I'm doing an install party so it would be nice to know
[13:44] <KeithWeisshar> can i use the link on distrowatch
[13:44] <lineox> KeithWeisshar: maybe suspec.org is trustable?
[13:44] <imetallica> Jeff123, many people don't have PCs with more than 4Gb RAM (my guess) and 32bit versions works on any PC
[13:44] <tarzeau> designbybeck: nice tip thank you
[13:44] <Multiply> Time for me to go! Happy upgrading, guys. :D
[13:44] <tehowe> Brasero has a bug and won't even burn to the next sequential CD without killing the process
[13:45] <anomalies> joemppe; lol.. this thinkpad i use for work only.. have bad design aesthetically ugly
[13:45] <Jeff123> imetallica: Thanks. Just to ease my last worry, are there any known issues with 64 bit versions?
[13:45] <designbybeck> no prob tarzeau, I'm hoping to deploy LTSP or iTALC in our classrooms soon for a mixed Windows/Linux environment, but i'm new to them both
[13:45] <imetallica> Jeff123, but you can have the 64bit version without trouble.
[13:45] <anomalies> can't brag with it
[13:45] <anomalies> :D
[13:45] <imetallica> Jeff123, don't think so, nowadays these are well tested. They share the same love and care as the 32bit ones.
[13:45] <rawhite> tarzeau: did you try to boot one ?
[13:46] <joemppe> nonsense, they're just solidly built for extra reliability
[13:46] <tarzeau> rawhite: nooo not yet, i'm busy creating the netboot images for the normal workstations
[13:46] <Jeff123> imetallica: Thanks mate. *Downloading*
[13:46] <tarzeau> rawhite: i'll try it some time, but certainly not today
[13:46] <ric8cruz> does the new ubuntu use the new HUD menu? :)
[13:46] <tc_busy> how to change the grub when your windows option doesnt appear
[13:46] <imetallica> Jeff123, have fun. :-)
[13:47] <rawhite> tarzeau: but well dont blame it on me if it doesnt boots 64bit kernels :P
[13:47] <tarzeau> rawhite: heh, no worries :)
[13:47] <tc_busy> dual boot isnt working, windows option doesnt show up
[13:47] <imetallica> ric8cruz, 12.04 ships with Unity 5.x, so yeah
[13:47] <Menno> okay
[13:47] <ric8cruz> imetallica, way cool ()
[13:47] <Menno> time to set up a working squid cacheing proxy
[13:47] <ric8cruz> * 8)
[13:47] <lineox> hopefully this handles dual screen better than 12.04--
[13:47] <Menno> and *then* apt-get update
[13:48] <tc_busy> dual boot isnt working, windows option doesnt show up, how to edit grub
[13:48] <anomalies> joemppe; ahahaha.. it's beast actually.. behind that ugly design, this one if a hell of a beast =))
[13:48] <muzzol> any decent 12.04 mirror?
[13:48] <Menno> edit files in /etc/grub.d
[13:48] <tarzeau> it's so nice to have gigabit internet
[13:48] <Pitel> muzzol: torrent...
[13:48] <imetallica> muzzol, try the torrents.
[13:48] <muzzol> oks
[13:48] <aemaeth> where's the buglist at?
[13:48] <joemppe> anomalies, yeah I had a thinkpad once from work
[13:48] <joemppe> loved it
[13:48] <_r00t_> Is there a vmware tools repo for precise ?
[13:49] <tc_busy> Menno: like can you tell me how to
[13:49] <Menno> tc_busy: I'd be glad to share my setup with you.
[13:49] <anomalies> mine is x220
[13:49] <PinkHat91> hello, i have pentium 4, 3gh, 1 gb ram, onboard graphic 64 mb, can i use 12.04? of course without unity
[13:49] <tc_busy> Menno: pm me
[13:49] <Menno> tc_busy: better to talk in the main channel - then others can also learn.
[13:49] <anomalies> PinkHat91; yes, you can
[13:49] <tc_busy> PinkHat91: yup
[13:50] <Skaag> Having trouble installing ubuntu 11.10 from a USB stick on an asus u46e
[13:50] <tc_busy> Menno: thanks for the thought i am new here so kinda .....
[13:50] <imetallica> PinkHat91, yes, but I would suggest you to use it without effects... Compiz eats around 300Mb RAM
[13:50] <joemppe> anomalies, t61 maybe?
[13:50] <Skaag> I get the initial menu to try or install, then the screen blanks
[13:50] <tc_busy> Skaag it should have been easy
[13:50] <tc_busy> Skaag: i have
[13:50] <_r00t_> will try open vm in the meantime
[13:50] <compdoc> so 12.04 is released?
[13:51] <Skaag> I tried turning off acpi, and adding nomodeset
[13:51] <_r00t_> imetallica: Compiz on which release ?
[13:51] <tc_busy> compdoc yes
[13:51] <anomalies> joemppe; mine is thinkpad x220
[13:51] <PinkHat91> ok, tnx
[13:51] <compdoc> cool
[13:51] <anomalies> blazing fast
[13:51] <joemppe> right :)
[13:51] <imetallica> _r00t_, 11.10
[13:51] <Menno> tc_busy: so, what partitions are your Windows and Linux on.
[13:51] <tc_busy> Menno
[13:51] <anomalies> t61 is a very durable one
[13:51] <Skaag> tc_busy: How did you install? From CDROM or USB?
[13:51] <_r00t_> imetallica: thanks .... I'm looking for feedback on compiz for 12.04
[13:52] <Menno> Windows 7 is detected automagically by GRUB, as should WinXP.
[13:52] <tc_busy> well Menno i dont get it but i choose 50-50 space in it ,Skaag usb
[13:52] <Skaag> Ubuntu.com seems to be having some issues this morning, with their reverse proxies
[13:52] <anomalies> my boss still have a t61, running nicely but never use it for work anymore.. since we all using x220 for the standard :)
[13:52] <Menno> is dist-upgrade still ill-advised?
[13:52] <tc_busy> Menno it used to but since my sister had a wagic touch on my laptop
[13:52] <tc_busy> magic**
[13:53] <anomalies> http://allyourbasebelongto.us/~iso/ | Ubuntu 12.04 LTS | Indonesia Mirror local backbone 100Mbps "don't forget to check the md5 sum"
[13:53] <indystorm> Hey why is ubuntu.com running so slow?
[13:53] <Skaag> tc_busy: How did you boot it from USB? Special kernel settings?
[13:53] <mohd> hello
[13:53] <imetallica> indystorm, too many people accessing it at same time
[13:53] <joemppe> anomalies, it ought to be
[13:53] <odinsbane> indystorm: everybody is using it right now.
[13:53] <mohd> sary: hi sary
[13:53] <joemppe> considering it feels like a slab of steel
[13:53] <Skaag> indystorm: Trouble with their reverse proxies
[13:53] <tc_busy> Skaag used unetbootin to do the job
[13:53] <captine> hi all.  anyone here have issues with 12.04  wifi range?   my wifi is very poor and although says connected, does not even ping google when i am away from router.  11.10 worked fine at similar distance
[13:53] <indystorm> :( I want to download the new 12.04 distro....
[13:53] <anomalies> joemppe; lol!
[13:53] <imetallica> indystorm, if you want to download it, try downloading from torrents
[13:54] <heckman> indystorm: http://releases.ubuntu.com/
[13:54] <odinsbane> indystorm: use a torrent.
[13:54] <heckman> You're welcome
[13:54] <gh0stn0te> hi
[13:54] <indystorm> ok cool I'll try
[13:54] <tc_busy> Menno your grub
[13:55] <Stanley00> captine: I think you should pastebin the follow info, lspci -kv and lsmod, use pastebin tou paste the result
[13:55] <tc_busy> Skaag in BIOS I set the proirity to USB HDD
[13:55] <Menno> I have Win7 and WinXP sharing the same boot partition,
[13:55] <GhostWolf> anyone have installed 12.04?
[13:55] <Menno> so my 40_custom looks like this: menuentry "blah blah" --class windows --class os { \n insmod part_msdos \n insmod ntfs \n set root="9/dev/sda,msdos1)' \n search --fs-uiid --set=root blahblahblah \n ntldr /NTLDR \n }
[13:55] <tc_busy> Menno winxp in ntfs but linux in etx thing
[13:55] <Skaag> tc_busy: I manage to boot the USB stick
[13:55] <anomalies> brb
[13:55] <Menno> GhostWolf: updating the beta right now
[13:56] <Menno> tc_busy: I"m really sorry dude but I don't understand you.
[13:56] <mohd> i like ubuntu :)
[13:56] <tc_busy> Skaag i did it myself my but grub file has been damaged somehow
[13:57] <tc_busy> Menno see my grub settings got changed somehow is it possibe to include winxp option in it again
[13:57] <jiltdil> Site is down :(
[13:57] <Skaag> Buggery
[13:58] <fusk> Is it a known problem, when you open your screen up after sleep that most of the times, the login box never shows up, or does show up but mouse and keyboard stopped working?
[13:59] <Menno> 436 pkgs to upgrade
[13:59]  * Menno ponders if this is a good idea before boarding flight @ 3pm
[13:59] <Menno> tc_busy: if you re-run update-grub, it *should* automagically pick up WinXP.
[13:59] <mohd> sary: Assalamu Alykum
[14:00] <Menno> if you could pastebin fdisk -l -u, it'd help
[14:00] <Skaag> Shalom!
[14:00] <paws> a
[14:00] <tc_busy> Menno how to what command
[14:00] <_r00t_> Anyone have live bandwidth stats from gb archive ?
[14:00] <jiltdil> Menno,  If you have fast speed then you can upgrade  in short time, if not then it takes longer time
[14:00] <Menno> and pastebin mount and your /etc/fstab
[14:00] <Menno> jiltdil: I'm more concerned with stuff breaking
[14:00] <paws> Is installing to usb okay or should go with CD?
[14:00] <bobbyaldol> what the heck is 'wuilbr' error
[14:00] <jiltdil> Menno, Never had issue in past while upgrading
[14:00] <bobbyaldol> happened when I dual booted windows with ubuntu
[14:01] <BadCodSmell> ubuntu download mirrors?
[14:01] <Skaag> It's time for ubuntu.com to switch to varnish for their caching...
[14:01] <geekbri> anybody know if there is a torrent up for ubuntu server 12.04 isos ?
[14:01] <mohd> sary: Assalam alykum
[14:01] <meadhikari> BadCodSmell, http://releases.ubuntu.com/12.04/
[14:01] <BadCodSmell> Thanks :)
[14:01] <meadhikari> geekbri, http://releases.ubuntu.com/12.04/
[14:01] <paws> will universal usb installer work with this version of 12.04?
[14:02] <tc_busy> paws yes
[14:02] <geekbri> meadhikari: ah yes, there it is, at the bottom :
[14:02] <paws> tc_busy: even older version of usb installer than this version of 12.04?
[14:02] <mohd> sary: Assalamu alykum
[14:02] <Menno> jiltdil: I've got some funky setups with my 3G and WiMAX cards.
[14:03] <paws> is 1.8.8.9 Universal USB Installer okay for 12.04 or does it need upgrade.
[14:03] <jiltdil> Menno, ok
[14:03] <tc_busy> yes it should select try some other distro at bottom
[14:03] <Apreche> Does anyone know when the AMIs will be updated? http://cloud.ubuntu.com/ami/
[14:03] <Menno> and my boot loader can be a tad fragile (have WinXP and Win7 on the machine, plus OS X.)
[14:03] <Menno> I wish apt-get could use torrents.
[14:04] <kgee> I've noticed lately that I cannot access the hosted services of my ubuntu servers from a fresh install lately (specifically http and ssh) from a remote machine even on the same LAN/Subnet. Are there default firewall rules on the OS that are preventing me from accessing my services through anything farther away than 'localhost'?
[14:04] <meadhikari> Menno, You can download the alternate cd to upgrade
[14:04] <Menno> meadhikari: Probably wouldn't help, since the lion's share of my packages aren't on the alt CD instlal
[14:05] <Menno> and I'd like to seed my cache anyway
[14:05] <Pici> Apreche: They're working on it, you may want to hang out in #ubuntu-server if you are waiting on an update.
[14:05] <Apreche> Pici: Thanks!
[14:06] <eHAPPY> is there a torrent link for the new OS? i dont want to eat up canonicals bw
[14:06] <meadhikari> eHAPPY, http://releases.ubuntu.com/12.04/
[14:06] <eHAPPY> ty :)
[14:06] <Pici> !torrents > eHAPPY
[14:06] <BadCodSmell> bandwidth is cheap just download it
[14:07] <tc_busy> !bandwith >tc_busy
[14:07] <simtsit> hi people! I'd love to move to Linux but does Ubuntu include drivers for USB modem?
[14:07] <alien64> i just tried the torrent link was a no go for me
[14:07] <Menno> Depends on the modem.
[14:07] <Menno> What modem do you have?
[14:07] <tc_busy> who is ubottu
[14:07] <celso_> depends of what modem you use
[14:07] <hayden_ru> simtsit: mostly
[14:07] <simtsit> Menno: Sagem family
[14:07] <aemaeth> !ubottu
[14:07] <tc_busy> who is ubottu
[14:07] <tc_busy> ok
[14:07] <celso_> lool
[14:07] <jiltdil> tc_busy,  bot
[14:08] <Menno> Is that like a CDMA or a UMTS modem?
[14:08] <Menno> Most popular modems work.
[14:08] <Menno> Just boot up an Ubuntu live CD or USB flash drive, plug in the modem, and see if it's automagically recognised.
[14:08] <simtsit> Menon I think UMTS. how can i know for sure?
[14:08] <tc_busy> jiltdil: thanks quite interesting bot handy one
[14:08] <simtsit> Menno*
[14:08] <Menno> You *might* need to enter in your carrier details, depending on from whom you get your service
[14:08] <Menno> simtsit: I'd check out the plan you have and check out how you connect on Windows.
[14:09] <celso_> simtsit: name and details of the modem?
[14:10] <celso_> but not private details :P
[14:10] <alien64> so i take it you cant upgrade from 11.10 to 12.04?
[14:10] <designbybeck> why couldn't you alien64?
[14:10] <tc_busy> alien64 we can
[14:11] <tc_busy> designbybeck: show him some light
[14:11] <designbybeck> lol i'm not to sure myself tc_busy mine was more a question ;)
[14:12] <tc_busy> lol designbybeck i said as you can tell him and i too get to know it lol
[14:12] <Millenaire> Does anyone know if the hid-logitech-dj affects the Logitech G700 Wireless Gaming mouse?
[14:12] <alien64> tc_busy: is there an upgrade button in the update manager or just do distupgrade from apt-get?
[14:12] <sftcr> hi guys. i recently updated to 11.10 having a geforce 7300LE in a dual head setup and unity doesnt seem to run properly. i plan to replace the card with a newer one. can anybody reccommend a cheap video card with full unity support out of the box?
[14:12] <stefg> !upgrade
[14:13] <blez> my 12.04 installlation stucked on Almost finished copying files...
[14:13] <sftcr> btw. i don't need the card for gaming
[14:13] <tc_busy> alien64: no idea dude i am pretty much new to linux a newbie
[14:13] <napster> If I'm using 10.04-LTS and I want to upgrade to 12.04-LTS directly, what is the best suggested option?
[14:13] <Duke_> celso_: Sagem F@st 800.
[14:13] <alien64> stefg: ty
[14:13] <tc_busy> napster do update and take a nap lol
[14:13] <stefg> napster: to be honest.... backup your files and reinstall.
[14:13] <napster> tc_busy: :)
[14:13] <tc_busy> lol napster
[14:13] <tc_busy> :)
[14:14] <tc_busy> blez do it again
[14:14] <davis776> napster: sudo do-release-upgrade
[14:14] <tc_busy> might be lucky this time blez
[14:14] <phoobar> hmm I recently upgraded from 11.10 to 12.04 and wanted to test the fancy HUD but it won't show?
[14:14] <phoobar> and by recently i mean 10 minutes ago :D
[14:14] <Mauhdeeb> sftcr: I have a Radeon dual DVI that works great dual monitor on 11.10. Won't be trying out 12.04 until tonight though. If you get a decent card with two DVI interfaces it should work fine.
[14:14] <Daekdroom> phoobar, press Alt
[14:14] <designbybeck> lol phoobar
[14:15] <napster> tc_busy: stefg davis776  I wish if LTS to LTS dist-upgrades were kind of stable process.
[14:15] <blez> tc_busy I wonder if I restart, will it continue the installation
[14:15] <stefg> napster: but *do* a backup first. There had been tons of changes from 10.04 to 12.04 so breakage is to be expected
[14:15] <phoobar> I tried alt. Won't show
[14:15] <tc_busy> blez it should
[14:15] <Menno> prior-releast to new LTS is generally smoother than last-LTS to current LTS. :\
[14:15] <designbybeck> and I wasn't making fun phoobar, just laughing at your "recently" statment
[14:16] <X-tonic> when will ubuntu shift 64 bit to recommended?
[14:16] <sftcr> mauhdeeb: thanks, which radeon model are you running?
[14:16] <stefg> napster: Canonical is trying to get that right sinc 6.06 ..... and still trying :-)
[14:16] <tc_busy> napster better to ask a pro i am kinda new to this but i think it should work fine
[14:16] <phoobar> if i press alt I just can hotkey the menubar, as it has always been
[14:16] <Stanley00> phoobar: did you reboot your system? if you did, try log in as guest
[14:16] <AceKing> Is there a torrent link to 12.04 32 bit?
[14:16] <X-tonic> Flash is more or less dead now with no linux support
[14:16] <tensorpudding> no release announcement in the topic?
[14:16] <napster> thanks everyone
[14:16] <Mauhdeeb> 5800 model I believe - am at work now so hard to recall
[14:16] <Pessimist> X-tonic: it's not dead on google chrome
[14:16] <Stanley00> !torrent | AceKing
[14:16] <phoobar> designbybeck: You're welcome ;-)
[14:16] <tensorpudding> AceKing, http://releases.ubuntu.com/precise/
[14:16] <Stanley00> ooops
[14:17] <tensorpudding> AceKing, all the torrents are there
[14:17] <AceKing> tensorpudding: Thank you
[14:17] <AceKing> Stanley00: Thank you
[14:18] <Stanley00> AceKing: :)
[14:18] <dreks> The MD5 found in http://releases.ubuntu.com/precise/MD5SUMS does not match the actual MD5 of the iso found at http://releases.ubuntu.com/precise/ubuntu-12.04-desktop-amd64.iso
[14:18] <auronandace> !torrents | Stanley00
[14:18] <Stanley00> auronandace: yep, got cha :D
[14:19] <auronandace> Stanley00: just 1 letter out you were
[14:19] <TobiasTheCommie> soo, am i the only one getting "need 6.9G free space to upgrade to 12.04, free 5.2G more", even though i have 7.3gigs free?
[14:19] <TobiasTheCommie> just doing a normal standard upgrade from 11.10 to 12.04, never had this issue befure. really seems like a windows issue
[14:19] <bounty> i can install windows after linux ?
[14:20] <TobiasTheCommie> found nothing on google :/
[14:20] <dreks> bad MD5 sum in the file posted on ubuntu.com
[14:20] <TobiasTheCommie> bounty: sure, but it will destroy your MBR, so you will have to fix your MBR to make linux bootable again
[14:20] <auronandace> bounty: yes, but windows will overwrite the mbr
[14:20] <TobiasTheCommie> bounty: windows first, then linux, will just work(tm)
[14:20] <a_b0y> released?
[14:21] <compdoc> yes
[14:21] <TobiasTheCommie> could someone in here give me a "i have succesfully upgraded to 12.04"
[14:21] <wiherek> hi, I am trying to install iredmail but am getting info that the postfix-policyd package has no installation candidate
[14:21] <TobiasTheCommie> if they have i mean :)
[14:21] <compdoc> good luck d/l it
[14:21] <meadhikari> a_b0y, http://releases.ubuntu.com/12.04/
[14:21] <a_b0y> but where can i download Lubuntu?
[14:21] <wiherek> I updated my sources to universe etc (even though it isnt exactly needed on 10.04
[14:21] <MonkeyDust> bounty  first windows, or you will have to repair the grub menu afterwards
[14:21] <Pici> TobiasTheCommie: Are you sure you have that much space free on / ?
[14:22] <limpc> hi, why did ubuntu remove their alternative-download page?
[14:22] <limpc> i wanted to grab 12.04 via torrent
[14:22] <klaas> does ubuntu support full disc encryption with the desktop installation disc or do I still need alternate installer disc?
[14:22] <TobiasTheCommie> Pici: df -h /
[14:22] <TobiasTheCommie> Filesystem            Size  Used Avail Use% Mounted on
[14:22] <TobiasTheCommie> /dev/sda5              12G  7.5G  1.6G  83% /
[14:22] <TobiasTheCommie> apparanly not :)
[14:23] <TobiasTheCommie> i looked at the size and used, not avail. wtf i'll investigate
[14:23] <stefg> TobiasTheCommie: there's always some space reserved for root on a default ext2/3/4 file system (like 5%) . you could tune that down to a smaller value with sudo tune2fs /dev/your_device -m 2
[14:23] <aemaeth> first error i notice, dvorak is not the default keyboard layout
[14:23] <Pici> TobiasTheCommie: Try cleaning out your apt cache: sudo apt-get clean
[14:23] <TobiasTheCommie> *argh*
[14:23] <TobiasTheCommie> idiotic
[14:23] <TobiasTheCommie> Pici: done that. it is the home folder encryption
[14:23] <zardox> When installing new files it "do you want to overwrite 12.04 lts with 12.04 lts"  Are we just copying the same install? Why is it called the same thing 12.04 LTS?
[14:23] <irv> oh shit! i thought rls was on 28!!! :D
[14:23] <TobiasTheCommie> if i do df -h . i get 7.3gigs free
[14:23] <TobiasTheCommie> if i do df -h / i get 1.3 gigs free
[14:23] <zardox> What is different about the 12.04 LTS files yesterday than today?
[14:24] <TobiasTheCommie> same partition, and i have done a reboot since cleaning. still, this is obviously the encfs, i shoudl be able to find something on google now. i hope
[14:24] <irv> many downsides to running 64 bit ubuntu ?
[14:24] <TobiasTheCommie> Pici: but thanks, i wouldn't have found this issue without your question :)
[14:24] <zardox> irv: 1 bit takes 4 bytes
[14:24] <limpc> TobiasTheCommie, probably. is mounted
[14:24] <Pici> TobiasTheCommie: sure, np.
[14:24] <irv> in mem? heh
[14:24] <MonkeyDust> irv  is your hardware 64bit capable?
[14:25] <TobiasTheCommie> limpc: wouldn't a reboot fix that?
[14:25] <irv> MonkeyDust: i run win 7 amd64 right now
[14:25] <irv> so yes
[14:25] <limpc> fix what?
[14:25] <zardox> If you already had 12.04 LTS will the new download have anything different?
[14:25] <MonkeyDust> irv  then you can use ubuntu 64bit, ok
[14:25] <TobiasTheCommie> limpc: the free space issue i'm having with encfs
[14:25] <limpc> if its a mounted folder that you didnt manually mount, its probably in your fstab and will remount when you reboot
[14:25] <limpc> TobiasTheCommie, idk about that i joined towards the end of your issue
[14:26] <Guest8383> Hi, I'm trying to write a script that knows how many new mails come in while I'm away. I think newmail will be a good place to start but can't work out what it wants as far as a mailbox goes? Does it only work for local mailboxes or can I get it to work with IMAP?
[14:26] <TobiasTheCommie> limpc: encfs home folder, mounted on login(ie, after x and lightdm is up and running)
[14:26] <irv> yeah i know i can, but i'm just wondering if there's any reason i should consider running 32bit aside from the assumed additional support for 32 bit applications, etc
[14:26] <TobiasTheCommie> ah, oki. was just the 16:24:55 <limpc> TobiasTheCommie, probably. is mounted
[14:26] <irv> like most common stuff you can get a 64 bit package for yes?
[14:26] <Mauhdeeb> irv: No real downsides. Were some Adobe issues at first but it all works fairly clean these days
[14:26] <TobiasTheCommie> i wanted to make sure i hadn't missed something stupid... again..
[14:26] <irv> awesome. 64bit it is ;]
[14:26] <limpc> TobiasTheCommie, yeah you mentioned the difference in df with . and /
[14:26] <zardox> irv: I have a win7 machine and am putting 32 bit on. there is no clear benefit for 64 and when looking into it "programs must be coded to use it etc..." if ther OS does how does it help? memory access? speed?
[14:27] <limpc> if the current folder is a mounted folder (e.g. of another partition), then it'll of course show a different size
[14:27] <limpc> TobiasTheCommie, i believe the installer allows you to set up home as a separate partition by default
[14:27] <TobiasTheCommie> limpc: yeah, with the . being /home/<user>/ encfs. but i guess that wasn't obvious
[14:28] <zardox> is there a page explaining what 12.04 LTS today is vs. 12.04 LTS a few days ago?
[14:28] <zardox> just could not make it 12.05?
[14:28] <TobiasTheCommie> i didn't. but, i've locked down the issue enough that i can find a solution on google now.
[14:28] <TobiasTheCommie> so, thanks all
[14:28] <limpc> a few days ago 12.04 was beta, zardox
[14:28] <MonkeyDust> zardox  happened once, 6.04 became 6.06
[14:28] <wiherek> so how can i install postfix-policyd on ubuntu 11.04?
[14:29] <irv> zardox: wouldn't tehre still be issues accessing > 3.2gb memory in 32 bit?
[14:29] <zardox> limpc: so it is a status not a different download? is the rush to update from people with pre-12.04?
[14:29] <zardox> limpc: 12.04 crashes all the time, isn't working with my dual display right etc... was hoping this 4 hours downloading and installing was getting something new.
[14:29] <stefg> !info postfix-policyd natty
[14:30] <limpc> zardox, idk, im not part of the ubuntu build team. i dont know how often they update the final beta image.. its entirely likely they have updated it since you downloaded your image
[14:30] <tc_busy> so did anyone try ubuntu 12.04
[14:30] <zardox> limpc: thanks
[14:30] <blez> I'm still trying to install it.
[14:30] <MonkeyDust> tc_busy  yes, running it now
[14:30] <KeithWeisshar> why can't i use wubu.exe on the root directory of the desktop cd to install from windows?
[14:30] <irv> easiest way is to checksum the files
[14:30] <Raki1> does anyone have wubi error saying "prefix is not set" ??
[14:30] <nimesh_accenture> I'm trying to share memory between Android and chrooted ubuntu on the same kernel. any idea how to proceed?
[14:30] <stefg> wiherek: Saw ubottus response? should be in the repos
[14:30] <Mauhdeeb> someone earlier was stating the checksums were wrong?
[14:30] <tc_busy> MonkeyDust: congratulations
[14:31] <KeithWeisshar> when i run wubi from the cd it only gives the option to reboot, not install from windows
[14:31] <MonkeyDust> tc_busy  having issues upgrading?
[14:31] <tc_busy> MonkeyDust: yup
[14:31] <KeithWeisshar> in the previous version i was able to install using wubi.exe on the cd
[14:32] <Raki1> it seems also tthati cannot install from wubi
[14:32] <Raki1> getting only errors
[14:32] <zardox> does anyone have a mac and ubuntu machine?
[14:32] <tc_busy> MonkeyDust: why are people saying it is crashing, what is the minimum requirement for it to work
[14:32] <KeithWeisshar> why can't i use wubi.exe on the 12.04 cd to install?
[14:32] <ikonia> zardox: yes
[14:32] <rtc> Hi! How can I do a do-release-upgrade from 10.04 to 12.04? it says Checking for a new ubuntu release No new release found
[14:32] <zardox> ikonia: which are you using now?
[14:32] <ikonia> KeithWeisshar: mirrors are probably busy
[14:32] <tc_busy> rtc same here
[14:32] <stefg> !upgrade > rtc
[14:32] <ubuntu> uit
[14:32] <ikonia> zardox: which what ?
[14:32] <Christoph_vW> rtc- try do-release-upgrade -d
[14:32] <blez> third time I restart
[14:33] <zardox> ikonia: which computer?
[14:33] <ikonia> rtc: Christoph_vW no
[14:33] <MonkeyDust> tc_busy  what is crashing? how do you try to upgrade?
[14:33] <KeithWeisshar> the wubi.exe on the cd itself only gives option to reboot
[14:33] <ikonia> rtc: do not do that
[14:33] <ikonia> zardox: a macbook pro
[14:33] <stefg> rtc: and do a backup first... upgrades are potentially dangerous
[14:33] <zardox> ikonia: you are using on irc?
[14:33] <ikonia> rtc: do not do do-release-upgrade -d
[14:33] <ikonia> zardox: I'm not using it at this moment, no
[14:33] <tc_busy> Monkeydust it hangs after sometime, do-release-upgrade -d
[14:33] <rtc> ikonia: Yes, I know about -d... I don't want to do that... ;)
[14:33] <Pici> tc_busy: do not use the -d swtich
[14:33] <ikonia> tc_busy: you should not do that !
[14:33] <zardox> ikonia: is it worth it if you hate windows and hatee command lines?
[14:34] <chrisgeorge> How does one reenable the sources upgrade disabled without manually editing each file?
[14:34] <zardox> ikonia: to use a mac.
[14:34] <ikonia> zardox: what ?
[14:34] <tc_busy> upgrade then how to ikonia Pici
[14:34] <MonkeyDust> tc_busy  it finished without flaw here, i did not use the -d option
[14:34] <mohd> how can i upgrade ?
[14:34] <tc_busy> without -d it says no new release found
[14:34] <zardox> ikonia: which computer do you spend more time configuring the Mac or Linux?
[14:34] <ikonia> tc_busy: what version of ubuntu are you using ?
[14:34] <tc_busy> !upgrade >tc_busy
[14:34] <KeithWeisshar> why is the ability to install using wubi.exe on the cd disabled
[14:35] <Pici> tc_busy: then you need to make sure that your computer is up to date with apt-get update/upgrade/dist-upgrade first
[14:35] <tc_busy> ikonia 10.10
[14:35] <ikonia> zardox: on my mac I normally use Mac OS, as that's one of there reasons I bought a Maciej_W
[14:35] <ikonia> bought a mac sorry
[14:35] <ikonia> tc_busy: ok, so that's why it's not working
[14:35] <tc_busy> Pici ok
[14:35] <wiherek> stefg: tx for pointing that out
[14:35] <ikonia> tc_busy: that is a non-LTS release.
[14:35] <tc_busy> ikonia??
[14:35] <tc_busy> ok ikonia
[14:35] <Pici> tc_busy: You can't upgrade from 10.10 to 12.04. You'd need to go through 11.04 and 11.10 first.
[14:35] <tc_busy> so then what to do ikonia
[14:35] <BlouBlou> sudo do-release-upgrade -d << does this command work fine? I mean, it won't crash kubuntu, right=
[14:35] <ikonia> !upgrade | tc_busy
[14:35] <ikonia> tc_busy: READ the link ubottu gave you
[14:35] <Pici> BlouBlou: do not use the -d switch.
[14:36] <wiherek> !info postfix-policyd oneiric
[14:36] <zardox> ikoniaL: it is looking to me that I may be happier with a mac than Win7 or Ubuntu. Just want to code and the OS overhead is too much.
[14:36] <xpistos> Hello All.
[14:36] <BlouBlou> Pici: all right.
[14:36] <ikonia> zardox: up to you
[14:36] <tc_busy> thanks ikonia
[14:36] <rtc> so there is no way to upgrade to 10.04 to 12.04?
[14:36] <stefg> wiherek: np... BTW there'S #ubuntu-server (seems that someone asking for a postfix spam filter might be interested in taht channel :-) )
[14:36] <ikonia> rtc: yes there is
[14:36] <xpistos> Is there a reason why sometimes I see a "%" prompt in the command line and others I see a "#" prompt?
[14:36] <rtc> I have to upgrade to 11.10 first?
[14:36] <mohd> whene is the indian language is done translated ?
[14:36] <ikonia> rtc: no, you don't
[14:36] <ikonia> rtc: you are using 10.04 which is LTS
[14:36] <BlouBlou> Pici: I'm thing about upgrading trought a tty, it should work, right'
[14:37] <BlouBlou> s'/?
[14:37] <stefg> !bash | xpistos
[14:37] <peto__> bye for now
[14:37] <stefg> xpistos: root vs. unprivileged user
[14:37] <grafton>  touchpad not working on samsung series 3 300v5a
[14:37] <rtc> right, ikonia... But then how do I upgrade from 10.04 to 12.04? http://www.ubuntu.com/download/desktop/upgrade describes only updating from 11.10...
[14:37] <Pici> BlouBlou: Yes, just don't use the -d switch blindly.
[14:37] <mohd> is it out yet ?
[14:37] <tc_busy> right rtc
[14:38] <tc_busy> ikonia you need to help
[14:38] <Menno> mohd: which Indian language
[14:38] <tc_busy> rtc read upgrade notes
[14:38] <feydrm> to upgrade from beta2 to release do i just do "update-manager -d"?
[14:38] <Menno> there are like a dozen of them
[14:38] <ikonia> rtc: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UpgradeNotes
[14:38] <jrib> !final | feydrm
[14:38] <ikonia> tc_busy: what ?
[14:39] <ikonia> rtc: I don't need any help, I've not asked a question
[14:39] <feydrm> ubottu: tyvm
[14:39] <ikonia> rtc: sorry that was for tc_busy
[14:39] <ikonia> rtc: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UpgradeNotes
[14:39] <tc_busy> ikonia sorry i got it from upgrade notes sorry for the bother
[14:39] <feydrm> ha
[14:39] <feydrm> thanks jrib
[14:39] <rtc> ikonia: that page has no info on upgrading from 10.04 to 12.04
[14:39] <xpistos> stefg: # = un privelged and % =  root?
[14:39] <mohd> Menno: the language package for the interface.
[14:39] <jrib> rtc: it does
[14:40] <rtc> jrib: this page: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UpgradeNotes does not contain the string 12.04
[14:40] <stefg> xpistos: ususally the other way round... bat that depends on your .profile
[14:40] <rtc> jrib: this page: http://www.ubuntu.com/download/desktop/upgrade has only info for upgrading from 11.10 to 12.04
[14:41] <rtc> jrib: So I'm asking again: do I need to upgrade to 11.10 first?
[14:41] <tc_busy> rtc its step by step
[14:41] <Christoph_vW> it will be offered on 10.04 LTS when 12.04 has reached the first point release afaik
[14:41] <sary> !outyet mohd
[14:41] <tc_busy> rtc yeah but try it out play a hunch
[14:41] <tc_busy> oops server error
[14:41] <rtc> jrib: Is there any way whatsoever to do an upgrade from 10.04 LTS to 12.04 LTS without upgrading to any intermediate release?
[14:41] <xpistos> that you stefg
[14:41] <sary> !outyet > mohd
[14:41] <xpistos> stefg: Or thank you rather!
[14:42] <jrib> rtc: of course.  One second while I load that page.  That page certainly contained the information a few hours ago
[14:42] <hnsz> I'm guessing it would be faster to install 12.04 than to do three upgrades
[14:43] <torment> hi! do I'm on 11.04.  do I have to update to 11.10 before i update to 12.04?
[14:43] <jrib> torment: yes
[14:43] <jpic> hi all, when i click the date widget in the top bar, the calendar pops up. In the calendar, i can click to select a day. Question: how to add an event and eventually have reminders ?
[14:43] <jrib> rtc: use this: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/PrecisePangolin/ReleaseNotes/UbuntuDesktop
[14:43] <torment> what if I have a 10.04 LTS server, can it go directly to 12.04 ?
[14:43] <jrib> torment: yes see the link I just gave rtc
[14:43] <torment> thanks jrib!
[14:44] <grafton>  touchpad not working on samsung series 3 300v5a
[14:44] <jrib> torment: erm, except that's desktop instructions.  Here's server: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/PrecisePangolin/ReleaseNotes/UbuntuServer
[14:46] <domedagen> My ubuntu computer started lagging what do I do?
[14:47] <MonkeyDust> !details| domedagen
[14:47] <cliftonts> any chance anyone here could help me with setting up a chron job to download a file from a website?
[14:47] <rtc> ikonia: I tried the instructions at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/PrecisePangolin/ReleaseNotes/UbuntuDesktop and they don#t work
[14:47] <rtc> ikonia: It claims "A message will appear informing you of the availability of the new release" but this is not the case
[14:48] <rtc> ikonia: I suppose this is for the same reason that do-release-upgrade doesn't work
[14:48] <buzzkill> cliftonts:  like what?
[14:48] <rtc> ikonia: since they probably use the same method to deteermine if a new release is avaiable
[14:48] <domedagen> I don't really know much details. It is 11.04 and has been running great until now. I can start applications but to move windows around causes a freeze
[14:48] <bobweaver> where should I go to talk to members of canonical ? thanks
[14:49] <Lint> what should I do to enable gnome-shell in Precise? I installed gnome-shell package but it segfaults
[14:49] <RxDx> I just installed the new 12.04... its kind of bugging.. Im running on a Dell Notebook with nVidia OPTIMUS.. I mean... there are two graphic cards, onboard (intel) and nvidia (gt 540m).. is there anyone with the same problem?
[14:49] <Aga> Hi All! Congrats with the 12.04 release! I installed 12.04 Beta 2 a week ago. Will I need to upgrade this to the final 12.04 or is it the same?
[14:49] <Menno> my D/L speedsa re down to 4.5kB
[14:49] <marek_> Hi all, I have a quick question. Is there a document somewhere that talks about the differences between Ubuntu Desktop and Server? I assume it's manily differences in pre-installed packages, but it would be good to know for sure.
[14:49] <Stanley00> Aga: I think you should upgrade
[14:49] <stefg> RxDx: look at bumblebee https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Bumblebee
[14:49] <sary> rtc: from the update manager > settings , change the release type to any release , then check again for an upgrade.
[14:49] <bobweaver> !wiki |marek
[14:50] <sameee_> quick question - how do I sign into freenode using xchat irc?
[14:50] <Lint> also, is it possible to use the Gnome Network Manager in precise?
[14:50] <bobweaver> marek_,  there is a server section and also a desktop section hope that that helps
[14:50] <Lint> sameee_, freenode is in default network list
[14:50] <rtc> sary: Now it says "New Ubuntu release 10.10 is available", but not 12.04
[14:50] <sary> sameee_: from the nework lis , find freenode and connect to it.
[14:50] <RxDx> stefg, thanks.. but now its not identifying my onboard intel graphics.. its saying UNKOWN =\
[14:51] <RxDx> stefg, them i think im running unity 2D... how can i know if my Unity is 2D or 3D?
[14:51] <soulnafein> Hi guys, I have a Macbook Air. Do you reckon I should use Ubuntu 12.04 64 bit? Or should I got for the 32 bit? Is the 64 bit stable enough nowadays, is the performance improvement worth the hassle?
[14:51] <marek_> cool, thanks!
[14:52] <bobweaver> RxDx,  pick the one at login aka lightdm screen press the ubuntu button next to your password box
[14:52] <Aga> Stanley00: Should I upgrade by waiting for the automatical upgrade via the update manager, or should I reinstall?
[14:52] <RxDx> bobweaver, k.. ill try.. thanks
[14:52] <bobweaver> np lets us know if you have issues at all
[14:52] <bobweaver> RxDx,  ^^
[14:52] <soulnafein> 64bit o 32bit?
[14:52] <soulnafein> :)
[14:53] <habanany> trying to install ubuntu on 8gb usb using universal usb installer but only get 4gb space ....how can i fix that?
[14:53] <reaper> I guess its just  " sudo apt-get update && dist-upgrade " to upgrade to 12.04 right?
[14:53] <sary> rtc: right , you must upgrade to 10.10 and the next one until you get the option for 12.04 , but first make sure you update any packages that is shown in the updae manager , then go for the upgrade
[14:53] <chrisgeorge> How does one reenable the sources upgrade disabled without manually editing each file?
[14:53] <ppyhd> Aga: just use update manager or apt.  No need to reinstall from beta.
[14:53] <Stanley00> Aga: I think just upgrade is good enough,
[14:53] <Christoph_vW> sary: no
[14:54] <Aga> thanks guys
[14:54] <RyuGuns> Hey, stupid question: Why doesn't ubuntu offer me to upgrade as soon as I log in like it did for Natty?
[14:54] <Aga> reaper: cool I didn't know about the dist-upgrade command
[14:54] <Ammar_> anyone updates to ubuntu 12.04 LTS yet?
[14:54] <sary> Christoph_vW: no !
[14:54] <Ammar_> *anyone updated to ubuntu 12.04 yet?
[14:55] <rtc> sary: But I was told above that I can to an upgrade to 12.04 directly, and I  specifically asked if that  was correct.... and if I needed to upgrade to some intermediate release first
[14:55] <Rhaedas> DLing 12.04 right now...very slowly
[14:55] <RyuGuns> Really?
[14:55] <rtc> sary: So do I get it right, is an upgrade from 10.04 LTS to 12.04 LTS definitely impossible?
[14:55] <RyuGuns> How slow?
[14:55] <NurseDad> i upgraded from the beta
[14:55] <Aga> Rhaedas: via torrent or direct dl?
[14:55] <NurseDad> lol
[14:55] <Rhaedas> if you go to 10.10, then you'd have to step through the rest
[14:55] <RyuGuns> What are your specs, Rhaedas?
[14:56] <eutheria> i am not going to upgrade for a week or more,
[14:56] <bazhang> rtc, lts to lts, one step
[14:56] <Ammar_> the current updates are also taking a lot of time to download
[14:56] <eutheria> in fact i will only upgrade when i buy a new laptop
[14:56] <grafton>  touchpad not working on samsung series 3 300v5a
[14:56] <Rhaedas> through update manager
[14:56] <rtc> bazhang: Yes, but how?!
[14:56] <Christoph_vW> "If currently running lucid, we'll not prompt them for LTS to LTS upgrade until the point release comes out. (12.04.1)."
[14:56] <a_b0y> i can't wait till windows 8
[14:56] <Christoph_vW> https://blueprints.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+spec/foundations-p-lts-upgrades
[14:56] <bazhang> !ot | a_b0y
[14:56] <sary> rtc: oh , right it's in your case since you're running an LTS. so yes
[14:57] <biggens> hi
[14:57] <linqering> linqering
[14:57] <biggens> hello?
[14:57] <rtc> sary: But it does not work... I guess it is because of what Christoph_vW quoted?
[14:57] <rtc> sary: I have to wait for the point release?
[14:57] <sary> Christoph_vW: ah , i was not aware of that .
[14:58] <assurbanipal> hi guys, i installed ubuntu 12.04 and gnome-shell but cannot get any extensions work. i try through extensions.gnome.org with no luck so far... what should i do?
[14:59] <sary> rtc: if not , then yes as Christoph_vW mentioned above.
[14:59] <Deithrian> Can someone fix the torrent link for Kubuntu please? It's no fun downloading 600mb with 150k/s from the server >-> http://torrent.ubuntu.com/kubuntu/simple/precise/desktop/kubuntu-12.04-desktop-amd64.iso.torrent
[14:59] <Rienzilha> :)
[15:00] <sary> hey assurbanipal gnome-shell extensions working fine here.
[15:00] <linqering> g
[15:00] <antix> I've installed gnome-panel in 12.04 but the graphics is very slow. how do I loose the fading of menus etc?
[15:01] <assurbanipal> sary, what can i do mate?i tried removing and reinstalling all gnome-shell related packages (i think all) but still no luck
[15:01] <linqering> j #java
[15:02] <NurseDad> so what is the topic on ubuntu+1 now?
[15:03] <TheBigRedOne> hello, anyone here?
[15:03] <gh0stn0te> hi
[15:03] <tc_busy> yes
[15:03] <mohd> How are you guich
[15:03] <TheBigRedOne> question about upgrade to 12.04
[15:03] <sary> assurbanipal: what happens when you try to apply an extension from extensions.gnome.org !
[15:03] <TheBigRedOne> trough update-manager? or via Live USB? (clean install /upgrade?)
[15:03] <tc_busy> TheBigRedOne: read the upgrade notes
[15:04] <assurbanipal> sary, the indication on/off switches, but nothing else happens, not even an error
[15:04] <tc_busy> !upgrade >TheBigRedOne
[15:04] <TheBigRedOne> cool bot :)
[15:04] <tc_busy> yup
[15:05] <tc_busy> TheBigRedOne: got it
[15:05] <hroi> I want the standard commandline svn client, but I'm completely confused by the multitude of options under aptitude search svn
[15:05] <TheBigRedOne> yeh i did, how is the 64Bit version with 12.04? i have 32bit now cause it has been "recommended"
[15:06] <tc_busy> TheBigRedOne: well i havent tried it yet but you can try as it is LTS
[15:06] <araknee> hi
[15:06] <sary> assurbanipal: wich version of gnome-shell you're running ...
[15:06] <araknee> what about 12.04 lts final ?
[15:06] <jrib> hroi: subversion
[15:06] <assurbanipal> sary, 3.4.1
[15:07] <TheBigRedOne> hmm, but to move from 32 -> 64 is clean install right?
[15:07] <tc_busy> yes
[15:07] <buzzkill> most probably,
[15:07] <assurbanipal> sary, on ubuntu 12.04 64bit
[15:07] <bobweaver> anyone know where I can file a bug for 12.04 and debian documentation browser the icons are not working
[15:07] <tc_busy> wait TheBigRedOne  ask a pro
[15:07] <jrib> !bugs | bobweaver
[15:07] <bobweaver> thansk jrib
[15:08] <technoviking> what is the HUD keybinding
[15:08] <hroi> jrib: thanks
[15:08] <sary> assurbanipal:did  you installed gnoe-shell from a ppa ?
[15:08] <bobweaver> technoviking,  you can press super+fn to ssee all bindings of short cuts
[15:09] <bobweaver> not sure if that is what you are after or not technoviking
[15:09] <bourke> are people getting an upgrade notice for 12.04 in apt yet?
[15:10] <assurbanipal> sary, i have tried several stuff and i might have messed with tha ppa's... if I remove all extra ppa's and reinstall gnome shell, shouldn't it be fine?
[15:10] <antix> gnome-panel is painfully slow... any idea what can be done about it?
[15:10] <BrixSat> Hello :D how do i put pidgin minimized in thecesarcasio
[15:11] <bourke> BrixSat: gsettings set com.canonical.Unity.Panel systray-whitelist "['JavaEmbeddedFrame', 'Wine', 'scp-dbus-service', 'Update-notifier', 'Pidgin']"
[15:11] <whoever_> will clonezilla image a logical drive
[15:11] <bourke> BrixSat: alt-f2 and type unity --replace
[15:11] <BrixSat> bourke:  im on the gnome-session-fallback
[15:12] <bourke> BrixSat: then i think you should be able to just turn on the notification icon in the pidgin prefs?
[15:12] <sary> assurbanipal: yeah i would do that , perhaps youve installed the shell + shell-extensions from a ppa wich might be out of date.
[15:12] <BrixSat> bourke:  but when i close pidgin it should stay running, not quit, it should be in the "envelope icon" in the taskbar
[15:13] <assurbanipal> sary, how do i switch to the original ppas only?
[15:13] <sary> assurbanipal: also , check if" GSettings " is installed.
[15:14] <Skaag> Now when I boot 12.04 on this asus u46e I get grub and not the standard install menu
[15:14] <bourke> BrixSat: sorry not sure then
[15:15] <bourke> anyone know how can I kick the update notifier into letting me download 12.04?
[15:15] <Ammar_> just starting my update to the new version :D
[15:16] <whoever_> having trouble making an image of a logical partion can someon assist
[15:16] <assurbanipal> sary, which gnome-shell u have?i have gsettings already installed
[15:17] <sary> assurbanipal: Disable any ppa other than the official 1's.
[15:18] <whoever_> when i select a partion , it seems to mout the entire physical drive
[15:19] <sary> assurbanipal: gnome-shell 3.4.1 .
[15:20] <assurbanipal> sary, could it be old conf files?because i had gnome shell with mint before trying it on ubuntu
[15:20] <sary> assurbanipal: the qustion is what's the version of gnome-shell-extensions you got installed.
[15:20] <GG111> It's good to see that ubuntu.com is back :)
[15:20] <sary> GG111: :)
[15:20] <NurseDad> GG1111: did it go down
[15:21] <Slyfer> Hi everybody !
[15:21] <Jen> Hi Dr. Nick!
[15:21] <tc_busy> hi everyonfe
[15:21] <DigitalDK> I'm having trouble installing 12.04 as a dual boot on my 64bit machine. Can anyone help?
[15:21] <GG111> DigitalDK: what's the problem ?
[15:21] <Whiskey> A bit of help
[15:21] <Whiskey> http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/dists/quantal/main/installer-amd64/current/images/netboot/
[15:21] <assurbanipal> sary, when i look for gnome-shell-extensions packege in synaptic, it brings up nautilus-extension1a as installed, and only that
[15:21] <Whiskey> Thats the latest release of Ubuntu right
[15:21] <DigitalDK> It copy's all files then hangs once I select a time zone?
[15:21] <sary> assurbanipal: am not sure what you mean by that!
[15:21] <Whiskey> its was not added to https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation/MinimalCD but i guss its that one
[15:22] <tc_busy> DiditalDK make a fresh install and then just update the grub simple
[15:22] <DJ> Whiskey, the latest one is 12.10 image
[15:22] <Whiskey> yeh
[15:22] <whoever_> what clonezilla does not offer compression on partion imaging only on phyical disk
[15:22] <GG111> NurseDad: yes, the site was down, for a while.
[15:22] <Whiskey> i do know that, but i asked if it was the version i found on the ftp but not listen on the help yet
[15:22] <DJ> Whiskey, we do support it now,
[15:22] <assurbanipal> sary, i search for gnome-shell-extension package through synaptic. as a result it brings up libnautilus-extension1a
[15:22] <DJ> since it was release today
[15:23] <Whiskey> Yeh i do know that two
[15:23] <Whiskey> ffs
[15:23] <assurbanipal> sary, no other than that
[15:23] <Whiskey> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation/MinimalCD
[15:23] <Whiskey> 12.10 its not listed there right
[15:23] <NurseDad> GG111L thats great probably downloads of 12.04
[15:23] <sary> assurbanipal: ah , so gnome-shell extensions is not installed .
[15:23] <DJ> Whiskey, the latest www.ubuntu.com/start-download?distro=desktop&bits=64&release=lts
[15:23] <GG111> DigitalDK: any other details you can tell ?
[15:23] <assurbanipal> sary, yes, and not available in my packages... how come?
[15:23] <Whiskey> what idiots its is here
[15:23] <Whiskey> Why do you think i wanne have the desktop?
[15:24] <DJ> Whiskey, be nice with that attitude you won't get help and in fact  you might get remove from the channel, so please keep your comments to your self thank you
[15:24] <NurseDad> DigitalDK: the site is very busy maybe wait a little while. Not sure that's it but could be
[15:25] <DigitalDK> GG111 what else do you need? I'm using a vustom built desktop with 8GB of RAM a quad core processor and it's just hanging on select time zone. I click continue and it just sits there with the busy icon for the mouse.
[15:25] <Whiskey> DJ i show exactly what i want, i does exactly say what i need, And you show me something completly else why?
[15:25] <whoever_> anyone clonzilla help
[15:25] <GG111> DigitalDK: the other OS is windows ?
[15:25] <bazhang> Whiskey, lose the attitude
[15:25] <assurbanipal> sary, are u here mate?
[15:25] <Slyfer> :p
[15:25] <Slyfer> :D
[15:25] <DigitalDK> NurseDad it was doing the same thing ast night when I was trying to install the beta I let it sit for an hour ad nothing.
[15:25] <DJ> Whiskey, what type of installation are you looking for be specific
[15:25] <mfilipe> hi! I want update the lucid laptop of my mother to precise. Is the process smooth or I need make backup and pray to don't get fatal bugs?
[15:25] <Slyfer> calme down buddies
[15:25] <Whiskey> bazhang: Whats wrong know? It was a questiono
[15:26] <DigitalDK> GG111 yeah it's a dual boot with win7
[15:26] <Whiskey> well the third time https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation/MinimalCD
[15:26] <GG111> DigitalDK: did you ever have a dual boot on that system ?
[15:26] <NurseDad> DigitalDK: i am on a new duel boot of win 7 and 12.04
[15:26] <bazhang> Whiskey, the servers are still syncing.
[15:26] <bazhang> Whiskey, and 12.10 is not out for 6 months
[15:27] <DigitalDK> GG111 a long time ago but I had to do a fresh install of windows because the updates corrupted my system.
[15:27] <Whiskey> Yeh i did notice
[15:27] <DigitalDK> GG111 so I formatted everything and started new.
[15:27] <Whiskey> My bad
[15:27] <Whiskey> but we try again, the 12.04 is not on that page anyways
[15:27] <bazhang> Whiskey, so be patient while they sync
[15:27] <Whiskey> But i guss http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/dists/quantal/main/installer-amd64/current/images/netboot/ is that one i search for
[15:27] <DigitalDK> NurseDad yeah I figured a lot of people are doing it, but this is the second time it's hung like this on me.
[15:27] <GG111> DigitalDK: mm.. so the answer is no, well, that's a very nasty stage to be stuck at, so, Ubuntu copies the files OK, but never starts installing, correct ?
[15:28] <bazhang> Whiskey, thats quantal. 12.10
[15:28] <Whiskey> kk what was 12.04 called?
[15:28] <DigitalDK> GG111 that's correct. I click continue before it finishes copying and just gets stuck with the busy icon for the mouse even though the copying continues.
[15:28]  * Slyfer slaps Whiskey around a bit with a large trout
[15:28] <koo> can someone help me?  upgrading to 12.04 i get an "error: no such partition" for all OSes
[15:28] <bazhang> Whiskey, precise pangolin
[15:28] <DigitalDK> GG111 after it copies though it just sits and sits and sits.
[15:28]  * Slyfer slaps Whiskey around a bit with a large trout
[15:28] <koo> is it grub or something?
[15:29] <bazhang> Slyfer, stop that
[15:29] <sary> assurbanipal: you need to install the gnome-shell-extensions , since you have gnome-shell 3.4.1 .. the last version of gnome-shell-extensions is 3.4.0 .
[15:29] <GG111> DigitalDK: nasty stuff, mm.. anything in your Bios that can prevent dual boot ?
[15:29] <Whiskey> DJ: Im affraid i own you an excuse
[15:29] <jatt> I'm running 11.10 how do I upgrade to 12.04 LTS?
[15:29] <assurbanipal> sary, yes but is not available in my repos!
[15:29] <Sidewinder> Whiskey, Perhaps this is what you're looking for? http://torrent.ubuntu.com:6969/
[15:29] <jatt> with update-manager?
[15:29] <DigitalDK> GG111 not that I can think of, I was doing it just fine like 6 months ago. Everything is the same as it was then.
[15:29] <Rhaedas> yes jatt
[15:29] <GirlyGirl> jatt: sudo do-release-upgrade -d
[15:30] <sary> assurbanipal: ive just made a system update , and the shell-extensions broked!
[15:30] <naerok|out> hi, anyone have access to a torrent to 12.04 64bit?
[15:30] <naerok|out> 10 hour eta on download :(
[15:30] <bazhang> GirlyGirl, thats not correct
[15:30] <sary> assurbanipal: http://git.gnome.org/browse/gnome-shell-extensions
[15:30] <assurbanipal> sary, whf?what dioes that mean?
[15:30] <Whiskey> so this one "http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/dists/precise/main/installer-amd64/current/images/netboot/"
[15:30] <bazhang> GirlyGirl, it's been released, and the -d switch is for development not released
[15:31] <ardian> Hi I need to know where this is \admin_tools\theming\static\admin_tools\images\django.png how do I search ?
[15:31] <GirlyGirl> bazhang: Ah yes forgot about that
[15:31] <GG111> DigitalDK: OK, can't nail this one directly, here's what I would have gone for, had it been my problem : 1. Is the Media OK ? 2. Bios settings 3. Is the Hard drive write proteced in any way
[15:31] <assurbanipal> sary, what am i supposed to do there mate? :P
[15:31] <assurbanipal> sary, commit some code myself/? :D
[15:32] <sary> assurbanipal: i think it might means tha both the shell and the shell-extensions version must match !
[15:32] <GG111> DigitalDK: also, is you HD partitoned, or you're going for Dual boot on the same partitions witn W7 ?
[15:32] <crypted> anyone: thoughts on why 3 computers saw the LTS upgrade and are upgrading, yet 1 says no updates are available?  all have the same settings.
[15:32] <Sidewinder> Whiskey, That would be for 64 bit. Is that what you need?
[15:32] <Whiskey> yep
[15:32] <bazhang> crypted, from which version
[15:32] <assurbanipal> sary, so...? what am i supposed to do?this still doesn;t answer why i don;t have that package available, i think
[15:33] <jatt> GirlyGirl: so do-release-upgrade -d will upgrade to a development version?
[15:33] <crypted> okay this is strange.
[15:33] <crypted> bazhang: it shows it now if i remove only show LTS
[15:33] <bazhang> jatt, dont use the -d switch
[15:33] <crypted> it shows 12.04 LTS after i say any version instaed of just LTS
[15:33] <jatt> too late lol
[15:33] <crypted> makes no sense to me
[15:33] <DigitalDK> GG111 well the disc I just finished downloading the ISO from torrent linked from the ubuntu site. I haven't changed anything in the BIOS since I last dual booted besides some clock frequencies. As for the HDD I've done a dual boot partition several times before so as far as I can tell it's not write protected it's just being a pain in the ass. Maybe I should try writing the file to a disc at a slower speed?
[15:33] <koo> anyone - please, after my update to 12.04 i got an "error: no such partition" while booting
[15:33] <jatt> the fetching looks correct though:
[15:33] <jatt> Get:83 http://de.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ precise/main vim-common i386 2:7.3.429-2ubuntu2 [86.3 kB]
[15:33] <LearningXP> Man, I picked the wrong time to get into Ubuntu, haha
[15:33] <jatt> precise pangolin, no?
[15:34] <DigitalDK> No.
[15:34] <GirlyGirl> jatt: For now -d is ok as 12.10 repos do not exist yet but best not to use it in future
[15:34] <jatt> ok thanks
[15:34] <ghabit> Hello. Help! I'm looking for good and easy-to-use DLNA server (for TV connectiong) based on GUI or at least with good front-end. Thanks!
[15:34] <Rhaedas> your update manager should show it available too if your settings allow it
[15:34] <bazhang> jatt, yes 12.04
[15:35] <sary> assurbanipal: i wounder myself , hold up ..
[15:35] <Fyodorovna> ghabit, this is ubuntu support.
[15:35] <Whiskey> Are it someone that is relly smart in here
[15:35] <GG111> DigitalDK: maybe, I guess anything goes at this stage, I have my share of bad luck in the past with installs, and I learned that it reaaly depends on *excactly* where the install gets stuck to know - what's causing it.
[15:35] <bazhang> Whiskey, pardon?
[15:36] <Whiskey> All Linux Distos no matter what it is i think come else as x86
[15:36] <Whiskey> Or AMDx64
[15:36] <Whiskey> And why in the hell is it named AMD? i mean Intel also has x64 i relly don´t get that :D
[15:36] <DigitalDK> GG111 and getting stuck after making the partition and copying files isn't one you're used too? :P
[15:36] <bazhang> Whiskey, thats offtopic for here
[15:36] <GG111> DigitalDK: also, I'm not sure if ubuntu keeps an install log anywhere, that would have been a dead giveaway to your problem.
[15:36] <bazhang> Whiskey, that info is easily searchable on the internet
[15:36] <assurbanipal> Whiskey, i think u just need to do some homework before coming and calling people names in public
[15:37] <DJ> GG111, look in /var/log
[15:37] <GG111> DigitalDK: well, yes, happend, it was bad Media.
[15:37] <Whiskey> Give it a break :=) it can´t be we still talk about Ubuntu dirsto or can do atlest
[15:37] <bazhang> !ot | Whiskey
[15:37] <Whiskey> kk
[15:37] <Ethek> Question, I upgraded from 12.04 Beta and my Privacy Manager feature seems to be missing from System Settings
[15:37] <GG111> DJ: will there be a /var/log for an install that did not finish ?
[15:37] <woozly> after upgrading and rebooting... I can't see any panels
[15:37] <woozly> only desktop with icons
[15:37] <woozly> no unity, no top panel
[15:37] <DJ> no
[15:37] <woozly> nothing
[15:37] <woozly> :/
[15:37] <FloodBot1> woozly: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[15:38] <idhenk> my bluetooth dongle cannot find any devices
[15:39] <DigitalDK> GG111 I'll just try writing the disc at a slower rate I guess. It's still stuck on that screen so I'll reset, reformat, and try to reinstall.
[15:39] <ardian> how can I search for this  \admin_tools\theming\static\admin_tools\images\django.png how do I search ?
[15:39] <wiherek> when I compile a program from source, do I need to move it somewhere afterwards (the folder I mean)
[15:39] <ghabit> Fyodorovna, yeah, I am just installed ubuntu and looking for software for ubuntu.
[15:39] <blob4000> hey, congrats everyone on 12.04. quick question, if i have 12.04 beta2 installed, should i just run updates to get the final 12.04, or should i reinstall completely from the 12.04 disc?
[15:39] <bazhang> blob4000, yes
[15:39] <GG111> DigitalDK: sucks that you use Windows, if you have a machine that you can try and use this media on, you could see if the media is bad.
[15:40] <bazhang> !final | blob4000
[15:40] <Fyodorovna> ghabit, cool.
[15:40] <vespakoen> Hey guys! =) I thought, lets install the nvidia drivers for my macbook, but that fucked things up =), does anyone know how to go back to "default" ?
[15:40] <vespakoen> or autoconfigure it the ubuntu way?
[15:40] <GG111> DigitalDK: also, if you're going the "bad media" router, did you verify the MD5 on this download ?
[15:40] <bazhang> vespakoen, no cursing here
[15:40] <Ethek> nm, I found it in software center. I thought Privacy Manager was a default App
[15:40] <ghabit> Fyodorovna, lu4she bi podskazal.
[15:40] <GG111> DigitalDK: route=router
[15:41] <vespakoen> hehe =D
[15:41] <noobie_> hello
[15:41] <noobie_> I need help with ubuntu
[15:41] <DigitalDK> GG111 I didn't verify unfortunately but I figured getting a torrent right from the ubuntu DL page I wouldn't need too >.<
[15:41] <wiherek> I am getting an error for a Varnish repo NOT FOUND on Ubuntu 11.10 but I cant find it in my sources.list
[15:41] <noobie_> I just installed ubuntu
[15:41] <wiherek> how can i remove it?
[15:41] <noobie_> how can i access my windows files?
[15:41] <GG111> DigitalDK: Ubuntu.com is back up, you can grab a coppy from there.
[15:42] <noobie_> abny help
[15:42] <noobie_> plz
[15:42] <noobie_> i need help
[15:42] <DigitalDK> GG111 thanks for all the help, I hopefully won't be back.
[15:42] <GG111> DigitalDK: at least you'll know it the system, for sure, if a brand new download and CD burs gives you the same error.
[15:42] <noobie_> ow to access windows files
[15:42] <bazhang> !helpme | noobie_
[15:42] <SteveBell> great work with 12.04. flawless update so far :)
[15:42] <bazhang> patience noobie_
[15:43] <Rhaedas> did you install Ubuntu in a separate partition?
[15:43] <GG111> man, wha'ts up with my typos.
[15:43] <blob4000> thanks bazhang
[15:43] <ghabit> Hello. Help! I'm looking for good and easy-to-use DLNA server (for TV connectiong) based on GUI or at least with good front-end. Thanks!
[15:43] <noobie_> !helpme plz, I really need to access my windows files
[15:43] <noobie_> OO
[15:43] <GG111> well, I know what's up, I'm in Starbucks, and 5 people talking sound line 5000, why shout ?
[15:44] <noobie_> so
[15:44] <Rhaedas> noobie: did you install Ubuntu in a separate partition or drive?
[15:44] <bazhang> noobie_, stop repeating every five seconds
[15:44] <noobie_> a partition?
[15:44] <noobie_> what's one of them
[15:44] <noobie_> I told it to overwrite windows
[15:44] <Rhaedas> um
[15:44] <noobie_> I assume it keep files right?
[15:45] <GG111> noobie_: no
[15:45] <noobie_> wat
[15:45] <noobie_> what kind of stupidd installer is it then
[15:45] <noobie_> if it can't even keep files
[15:45] <GG111> noobie_: if you told the installed to run over the previous OS, the files are gone.
[15:45] <noobie_> yes
[15:45] <noobie_> OS
[15:45] <Rhaedas> it did ask you if you wanted to overwrite WIndows
[15:45] <noobie_> not user data
[15:45] <GG111> noobie_: if user date is on the same partition , then it's gone.
[15:45] <noobie_> what
[15:45] <GG111> if you had a C: and D: drive, C: is gone, D: is there.
[15:46] <noobie_> noooooo
[15:46] <bliffle_> noobie: usually you can find Win files through "Nautilus", which starts when you select 'places' from the top bar or the icon of the filefolder when you popout icons along the left margin.
[15:46] <noobie_> GG111: is there any way I can recover files?
[15:46] <noobie_> some sort of undelete tool for linux?
[15:46] <babai> noobie_: this is not a windows upgrade, ubuntu deletes all data in the c drive(or whatever drive it was installed in)
[15:46] <GG111> noobie_: how important were they ?
[15:46] <noobie_> eh
[15:47] <noobie_> some of them were important
[15:47] <a_b0y> noobie_ maybe your windows files are encrypted?
[15:47] <noobie_> I think I ahve backups
[15:47] <atsi> καλησπερα θελω να κανω μια ερωτηση καθως και νεος στο linux και στο ubuntu... Εχω αναβαθμισει την διανομη 12.04 απο 11.10 και θα ηθελα να ρωτησω αν χρειαζεται να κανω καθαρη εγκατασταση την final εκδοση η αν θα ενημερωθει αυτοματα η beta εκδοση 12.04 μεσω ενημερωσε
[15:47] <atsi> ων και πως θα το καταλαβω αυτο
[15:47] <bazhang> !gr | atsi
[15:47] <JuJuBee> I use rhythmbox on kubuntu for music. Anyone know why the repeat and shuffle icons are missing? tried finding info online but nothing I found seemed to work.
[15:47] <MrKeuner> hello, having trouble mounting the ecryptfs encrypted home directory on an external hard drive (formerly internal). Problem is the /media/s7ds6g87fdf8g6d8fg/.ecryptfs directory is linked to /home/.ecryptfs which does not exist! Can someone help please?
[15:47] <GG111> noobie_: every one who ever dealt with linux ended up nuking all their files, at least once.
[15:47] <Baribal> Hi. I'm missing locale information, it seems. I tried dpkg-reconfigure locales, but that only rebuilt existing locale info and didn't allow me to add new ones. What do I have to do?
[15:47] <bliffle_> noobie: you TOLD the installer to replace windows, so it did.
[15:48] <a_b0y> noobie_ maybe try to take the hard drive and install it on a computer with windows to see if it recognizes it
[15:48] <noobie_> I backup my important stuff on google dodcs
[15:48] <GirlyGirl> GG111: I'm sure not everyone did that
[15:48] <noobie_> so my most important tuff is there]
[15:48] <GG111> noobie_: so , no worries, you are actually in a better place, you got rid of Windows .
[15:48] <noobie_> actually
[15:48] <noobie_> worse
[15:48] <noobie_> ALL MAH GAMES
[15:49] <FloodBot1> noobie_: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[15:49] <noobie_> I GOTTA DOWNLOAD THEM AGAIN
[15:49] <GG111> GirlyGirl: I did, so does everybody I know. computer sciecse grads included.
[15:49] <noobie_> ALL 100GB OF THEM
[15:49] <a_b0y> noobie_ if you are a noob, maybe your files are still on the computer you just don't know where to find it because linux doesn't have drives like C: B: D:... etc
[15:49] <GG111> when I installed my first asterisk server, I nuked a 250 GB drive, full with good stuff.
[15:50] <GG111> and this was a time that 250GB was a *lot* of data.
[15:50] <a_b0y> noobie_ did you mount the drive?
[15:50] <MrKeuner> I have precice pangolin beta installed a week ago, I don't need to do anything, correct? I am LTS now?
[15:50] <GirlyGirl> GG111: Luckily since I've used the really old versions of Windows like 3.1 where everything was manual, I never did that. I did put the bootloader on wrong drives though
[15:50] <blob4000> ubuntu's ftp / apt-get servers seem slow :) or is it just me?
[15:51] <GG111> GirlyGirl: cool for you then.
[15:51] <GirlyGirl> MrKeuner: with sudo apt-get dist-upgrade , yes
[15:51] <jatt> 889 kB/s here
[15:51] <bazhang> blob4000, its the first day of release, thats normal
[15:51] <MrKeuner> GirlyGirl, thanks
[15:51] <GG111> blob4000: the whole world is getting 12.04 now, yes, slow.
[15:51] <bazhang> blob4000, torrents are a better option at this point in time
[15:51] <blob4000> thanks.
[15:52] <blob4000> is it just me, or is Linux really taking off this year?
[15:52] <Baribal> GG111, the reverse is true for me, I'm still lugging around files from my pre-Linux days.
[15:52] <jatt> linux took off years ago
[15:52] <bazhang> blob4000, thats a good topic for #ubuntu-offtopic
[15:52] <blob4000> kk
[15:53] <blob4000> just excited for ubuntu, considering the lackluster release Windows 8 might be
[15:53] <Sidewinder> blob4000, For a faster d/l using a bit-torrent, please see here: http://torrent.ubuntu.com:6969/
[15:53] <GG111> Baribal: files are crap, I try and be the leaset dependent on files. there's only one computer I own that has important files, and backed to so many place that I can't tell them without reading the script. all the other computer, can be nuked on the dime. no tears.
[15:53] <martin_tsc> My wifi dies after upgrading from 11.04 ->11.10.  How can that be fixed?
[15:53] <blob4000> Sidewinder: thanks
[15:53] <Sidewinder> blob4000, My pleasure. :-)
[15:54] <Baribal> GG111, good to know, but I don't think that has to do with me never nuking all my files because of Linux. :)
[15:54] <Andy80> hi, I've this xorg.conf http://pastebin.com/N8SacSFW but on each boot I always get 1024x768 by default. I need to go to System Settings->Display and choose 1680x1050 from the available one and then click Apply. Then it works. Maybe there is something wrong in my xorg.conf, how can I fix it? Thanks! p.s: I'm using Ubuntu 12.04 and Nouveau driver.
[15:54] <GG111> martin_tsc: run apt-get update && apt-get upgrade , reboot , see if Wifi is back
[15:54] <Roj> i finde  precise-dvd-i386.iso        23-Apr-2012 15:00  1.5G  Install/live DVD for PC (Intel x86) computers (standard download) in  http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/dvd/current/ .it is 12.4 dvd version?
[15:54] <Roj> but it is for 23 april
[15:54] <k4f1r> guys having a problem upgrading from beta2 to release.....i tried dist-upgrade , upgrade, update, nada says I'm updated
[15:54] <david_r> Andy80, post /var/log/Xorg.0.log to another pastebin, it probably shows what your problem is
[15:54] <GG111> Baribal: I didnot loose importnat files my self, I nuked them yes, but what was needed, I still have.
[15:55] <martin_tsc> GG111, thanks i'll try that
[15:55] <bazhang> k4f1r, what does lsb_release -a   say in the terminal
[15:56] <roasted> Question - Does Ubuntu One delete files at all? Reason I ask is, let's say I have Ubuntu One set up on my Android to sync my pictures to Ub1. If I delete pictures on my phone, would that "delete" change filter upt hrough Ubuntu One and to my computers? Or does it not delete anything?
[15:56] <n0yd> hey guys, kind of my first go around with a ATI card (deffinitely not new to linux, been using for 10 years or so).  I got a T60 with a x1300 mobility.  According to thinkwiki, radeon and radeonhd support this card, and even do 3d with newer mesa versions (i believe this was written a few years ago).  It also says the blob fglrx supports it, and from what I have read this will give the best performance, but I tried installing catalyst drivers, and it says
[15:56] <n0yd>  I dont have a supported device.  Any ideas?
[15:56] <bazhang> Roj, perhaps wait for the servers to by synced.
[15:56] <Andy80> david_r: here you have my /var/log/Xorg.0.log --> http://pastebin.com/YxBxaA4t
[15:56] <bazhang> roasted, try #ubuntuone
[15:56] <k4f1r> No LSB modules are available.
[15:56] <k4f1r> Distributor ID:	Ubuntu
[15:56] <k4f1r> Description:	Ubuntu 12.04 LTS
[15:56] <k4f1r> Release:	12.04
[15:56] <k4f1r> Codename:	precise
[15:56] <FloodBot1> k4f1r: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[15:56] <bazhang> k4f1r, then you are at final
[15:56] <mouth1> hi
[15:57] <roasted> bazhang: didn't know it existed. thanks!
[15:57] <k4f1r> how do I get the latest kernel then?
[15:57] <mouth1> i have a core i3 cpu, should i download the 32 bit or 64 bit ubuntu 12.04?
[15:57] <wad> I'm trying to troubleshoot a VPN issue. Which logs should I tail so I can see why it keeps dropping?
[15:57] <bazhang> k4f1r, latest being what
[15:57] <GG111> k4f1r: ouch, http://paste.ubuntu.com/
[15:57] <mac_> Hey, questions
[15:57] <jatt> 64bit
[15:57] <GG111> and paste the link back here
[15:57] <bazhang> mouth1, is that 32 or 64 bit
[15:57] <mouth1> core i3 is 64 bit
[15:58] <bazhang> mouth1, then use 64
[15:58] <jatt> newer cpus are all 64bit
[15:58] <mouth1> will apps be supported on 64 bit?
[15:58] <mac_> How do I find themes for Ubuntu 12.04. how do i set up my wireless printer, and why is my bluetooth so wishy washy?
[15:58] <k4f1r> latest being 3.2.1-24 or 3.2.0-24 instead of 23
[15:58] <mac_> thanks
[15:58] <bazhang> mouth1, yes
[15:58] <mouth1> ok thanks
[15:58] <ghabit> Hello. Help! I'm looking for good and easy-to-use DLNA server (for TV connectiong) based on GUI or at least with good front-end. Thanks!
[15:58] <Baribal> Gentlemen... How do I add/install locales?
[15:58] <colon_D> is there some lag time before do-release-upgrade is available from 10.04 to 12?
[15:58] <bazhang> mac_, check printer at linuxprinting.org  and give more info than "wishy-washy"
[15:59] <mac_> Well, I have a sound bar, it rarely connects. only off a freshboot like starting up
[15:59] <bazhang> colon_D, is your package manager checked to look only for lts?
[15:59] <mac_> it never can reconnect after being with one device or after going to sleep. It's really weird and Thanks
[16:00] <bazhang> k4f1r, here, not via PM please
[16:00] <colon_D> bazhang: yeah, prompt=normal does the regular maverick upgrade, but prompt-lts gives me no new release found.  this is for a server.
[16:00] <bazhang> colon_D, which servers are you pointed at in sources.list
[16:01] <yacc> Any hints how to decrypt a home filesystem via ecryptfs manually (I do know the passphrase, I'm just trying to restore some files from a backup)
[16:01] <Andy80> david_r: you got any idea from my log file?
[16:01] <david_r> Andy80, your xorg.conf lacks a "screen" section, in the logfile it says No monitor specified for screen "Default Screen Section".  Using a default monitor configuration.
[16:01] <beandog> yacc: cryptsetup luksOpen something someting
[16:01] <Fat-Thing> where can i post a screenshot? like a text field in ubuntu.paste.com something right?
[16:02] <colon_D> bazhang: the typical us.archive.ubuntu.com: http://paste.ubuntu.com/947558/
[16:02] <bazhang> !paste | Fat-Thing
[16:02] <Andy80> david_r: oh... where can I find a xorg.conf example so I can adapt it to my needs?
[16:02] <david_r> let me paste mine
[16:02] <bazhang> colon_D, thats odd. they should be synced by now. perhaps wait a bit, or switch servers and try again
[16:02] <yacc> beandog, encrypted home filesystem => that's not block-level encryption.
[16:02] <Andy80> david_r: thanks :)
[16:03] <n0yd> hmm, no one hear can offer me any help? it seems whenever i come here my questions are ignored, as if they are too advanced or something
[16:04] <bazhang> n0yd, whats the issue
[16:04] <sacarlson> Andy80: If I recall there is a command that will create the xorg.conf file that you system uses as it's default if none is found and you can edit that
[16:04] <n0yd> bazhang, its above but i will posty
[16:04] <n0yd> hey guys, kind of my first go around with a ATI card (deffinitely not new to linux, been using for 10 years or so).  I got a T60 with a x1300 mobility.  According to thinkwiki, radeon and radeonhd support this card, and even do 3d with newer mesa versions (i believe this was written a few years ago).  It also says the blob fglrx supports it, and from what I have read this will give the best performance, but I tried installing catalyst drivers, and it says
[16:04] <n0yd>  I dont have a supported device.  Any ideas?
[16:05] <bazhang> n0yd, tried installing from where
[16:05] <Matan[M]> hi, where i can find list of changes in Ubuntu 12.04?
[16:05] <david_r> okay here's mine: http://pastebin.com/ZuHzwmBn - I'm using two monitors and the nvidia driver, if you're using one monitor you should adjust that, also you're using the open source driver so change that under "device" or install the nvidia binaries.  If you install the nvidia driver you can use the nvidia-settings tool to generate this file.
[16:05] <Fat-Thing> thanx ubottu
[16:06] <bazhang> Matan[M], check the topic here
[16:06] <Andy80> david_r: I wish I could use the Nvidia driver, but it crashes my Xorg so many times! I get something like 7-8 crashes per day and I really cannot stand it.
[16:06] <Matan[M]> bazhang: sorry
[16:06] <beandog> Andy80: sounds like crappy hardware.
[16:06] <colon_D> bazhang: thanks, I'll wait I suppose.  I tried mirrors.mit.edu with the same result.
[16:07] <calculon> who's here?
[16:07] <Andy80> david_r: mmm.... no I can't use it, it's pretty the same I was using when I used Nvidia driver, but too many things change
[16:07] <bazhang> calculon, ubuntu support
[16:07] <david_r> Sorry to hear that. Another alternative to the xorg.conf changes is to figure out how to change the resolution with xrandr and then put the command in your ~/.xprofile file.
[16:07] <calculon> I like xubuntu 12.04
[16:08] <Fat-Thing> http://imagebin.org/209846
[16:08] <mouth1> what is the checksum for ubuntu 12.04 desktop amd64 ?
[16:08] <sacarlson> Andy80: maybe this command? http://manpages.ubuntu.com/manpages/lucid/man1/dexconf.1.html
[16:08] <Jordan_U> !md5sums | mouth1
[16:09] <mouth1> Jordan_U, there is no 12.04
[16:09] <bazhang> !hashes | mouth1
[16:09] <mouth1> thanks
[16:09] <egelor_> david_r: you have right xrandr is the alternate. but as i had problems with nvidia drivers the best place is the ubuntu forum. And if you want to run your nvidia write you need to read a lot
[16:10] <Monotoko> hey guys... if I have the beta of 12.04... am I right in thinking I just need to run "apt-get upgrade" to get the final?
[16:10] <bazhang> !final | Monotoko
[16:11] <Monotoko> thank you :)
[16:11] <nitzs> hello everyone. how did you find the new release?
[16:11] <DarkAceZ> Are things broken in 12 or what?
[16:11] <bazhang> DarkAceZ, no
[16:11] <MonkeyDust> nitzs  works fine here, 'classic' gui
[16:11] <DarkAceZ> Cool.
[16:12] <nannes> Hi! Which is the right place to suggest new useful features to Ubu.developers ?
[16:12] <bazhang> !brainstorm | nannes
[16:12] <DarkAceZ> You being serious?
[16:13] <bazhang> DarkAceZ, ubuntu support question?
[16:13] <Andy80> david_r: do you think that this new xorg.conf will fix my problem http://pastebin.com/nC9dGmqf ?
[16:13] <DarkAceZ> Isn't it?
[16:13] <nannes> bazhang: what if my english is not very well? I try there, or there is an italian channel?
[16:13] <bobweaver> what is the correct icon dir for makefiles ? example http://paste.ubuntu.com/947578/ thanks
[16:13] <p0wer> twork.org
[16:13] <bazhang> DarkAceZ, whats the issue: ask all on one line
[16:13] <david_r> It shouldn't hurt, try it and if it doesn't change anything post your new Xorg.0.log file.
[16:13] <bazhang> !it | nannes
[16:14] <awisepilot> When I do a release upgrade from 10.04 to 12.04 it says: No New Release Found.
[16:14] <DarkAceZ> I'm just wondering if things are broken.
[16:14] <nannes> lol..ok I go to that english page
[16:14] <bazhang> DarkAceZ, thats not a support question
[16:14] <bazhang> DarkAceZ, chit chat in #ubuntu-offtopic please
[16:14] <Fat-Thing> http://imagebin.org/209846 <---- anyone? seems i got a very very low connection :(
[16:15] <ssfdre38> hey would Intel Dual Core (not 2) still be able to use the 64 bit of 12.04
[16:15] <DeadMeat67> on both of my 11.10 on desktop one server I am getting no new release found when I do a sudo do-release-upgrade
[16:16] <awisepilot> When I do a release upgrade from 10.04 to 12.04 it says: No New Release Found.  Why isnt the upgrade working?
[16:16] <Andy80> david_r: ok, I try
[16:16] <trism> bobweaver: I would say /usr/share/pixmaps/ if you are just copying that single icon, /usr/share/icons/ is more for icon themes (although it looks like cabextract decided to go the other way...)
[16:16] <deithrian> Which option to choose in the additional drivers for the most up to date drivers? The post release or current?
[16:16] <DeadMeat67> i've done a apt-get update && apt-get upgrade
[16:16] <dogmatic69> I have a plotter that has stopped working, I have been running 12.04 since b2 and it was fine. Since updating it no longer works
[16:16] <dogmatic69> it is just a usb->serial connection
[16:17] <bobweaver> trism, https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/dwww/+bug/988937
[16:17] <dogmatic69> anyone know what has happened or how I could fix it?
[16:17] <sacarlson> Fat-Thing: low connection?  you mean slow Internet?
[16:17] <bobweaver> trism,  I am trying to fix that bug
[16:17] <rymate1234> woo
[16:17] <awisepilot> I've done the apt-get update, apt-get upgrade and now the upgrade is not fround
[16:17] <rymate1234> this is gonna be fun
[16:17] <rymate1234> updating from 12.04 beta 2 to the full release
[16:17] <ghabit> Hello. Help! I'm looking for good and easy-to-use DLNA server (for TV connectiong) based on GUI or at least with good front-end. Thanks!
[16:18] <bobweaver> ghabit,  you have seen ubuntu tv >?
[16:18] <rymate1234> I assume i just use "sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get upgrade"
[16:18] <rymate1234> right?
[16:18] <Fat-Thing> sacarlson, yes!
[16:18] <david_r> yes rymate
[16:18] <awisepilot> When I do a release upgrade from 10.04 to 12.04 it says: No New Release Found.  Why isnt the upgrade working? I followed instruction verbatim.  What's the deal here
[16:19] <bobweaver> ghabit,  http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jq_WaOLjdyQ
[16:19] <ghabit> bobweaver, nope, just installed ubuntu and don't know any software
[16:19] <sacarlson> Fat-Thing: wifi or wired?
[16:19] <DeadMeat67> i've also tried sudo apt-get dist-upgrade
[16:19] <MonkeyDust> awisepilot  try do-release-upgrade
[16:19] <bobweaver> ghabit,  you might also like this http://www.omgubuntu.co.uk/2012/01/how-to-install-ubuntu-tv-right-now-via-ppa/
[16:19] <ghabit> bobweaver, wow, but how to use it? ^) On TV
[16:19] <alien64> welp here goes nothin upgrading from 11.10 to 12.04
[16:20] <mouth1> can i use unetbootin with ubuntu 12.04 even though it's not officially supported yet?
[16:20] <awisepilot> I did sudo do-release-upgrade and it says No New Release
[16:20] <JuJuBee> Any ideas why postfix seems to stop running by itself?  I have to restart it every couple of weeks
[16:20] <ghabit> one more question - is there some difference between ubuntu updated to 12.04 and fresh install of 12.04?
[16:21] <trism> bobweaver: he probably just doesn't have gnome-desktop-data installed, it is installed here and the icon is in /usr/share/pixmaps (and a desktop file finds it when I make a test one)
[16:21] <Fat-Thing> sacarlson, wired connection!
[16:21] <awisepilot> You cant upgrade from 10.04 to 12.04 so do a fresh install
[16:21] <awisepilot> It doesn't work
[16:21] <bobweaver> trism,  that he is me and should that not install via control file ?
[16:22] <bobweaver> if it depends on it that is
[16:22] <Flannel> awisepilot: yes you can.  LTS to LTS.
[16:22] <sacarlson> fat-thing: when did it change?  maybe mtu settings?  http://compnetworking.about.com/od/networkprotocols/g/mtu-maximum.htm
[16:22] <Andy80> david_r: once I login my resolution is set to 1680x1050, but on LightDM screen I still have 1024x768, now I'll paste you the new log, wait...
[16:22] <nathan_> hey guys my logitech mic is freezing ubuntu
[16:22]  * Menno wonders what's ch anged from 3.2.0-22 to -23
[16:22] <dpaigen> Hello.  I am having an install problem: my usb stick freezes on an acer aspire one
[16:22] <awisepilot> Nope, I did a fresh install last night 10.04 and now today I am trying to upgrade to 12.04 and it says No new Release
[16:22] <mouth1> can i use unetbootin with ubuntu 12.04 even though it's not officially supported yet?
[16:22] <Menno> mouth1: yes
[16:23] <ntadej_> Hi everyone!
[16:23] <ntadej_> Can anyone help me with python-sip problems with 12.04? (Google and Launchpad aren't helpful)
[16:23] <awisepilot> I should have waited a few more hours before wasting my time installing 10.04 since now I have to blow away 10.04 to get to 12.04.  I just wish this stuff worked as printed.
[16:23] <Flannel> awisepilot: Yeah, the LTS releases will wait a week or two before having 'everyone' upgrade.
[16:23] <Andy80> david_r: here it is http://pastebin.com/8Y6qBg6m
[16:24] <Flannel> awisepilot: For stability, but also for the fact that the upgrade servers are going to be molasses for a few days.
[16:24] <ntadej_> /build/buildd/sip4-4.13.2/siplib/siplib.c:10938: sipEnumType_alloc: Assertion `( ( ( currentType )->td_flags & 0x0007 ) == 0x0003 )' failed.
[16:24] <ntadej_> Aborted ( core dumped )
[16:24] <sary> Flannel: i thought thats the way to do i before , but i was told today that you have to wait for 12.04.1 to be released to upgrade from an LTS to the next.
[16:24] <deithrian> Which version of Nvidia drivers are we installing with the Additional drivers thing on 12.04?
[16:25] <deithrian> Is it so bloody hard to display the version of the driver in that application?!
[16:25] <Flannel> sary: I've never heard that as policy.
[16:25] <sary> dpaigen: you mean i freezes when you boot from it to try ubuntu !
[16:25] <mouth1> ok Menno thanks
[16:25] <bobweaver> trism,  thanks ! you are awesome
[16:25] <nathan_> can anyone help me figure out why my mic is freezing my computer
[16:25] <awisepilot> They should have not printed this link: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/PrecisePangolin/ReleaseNotes/UbuntuServer  if they never intended for it to work until next week.
[16:25] <dpaigen> sary if I don't touch it the live system boots, if I try to arrow down it freezes
[16:25] <Schrodinger`Cat> hey
[16:26] <awisepilot> The instruction are simple and easy but the delivery is bad!
[16:26] <mouth1> Menno, what ubuntu version should i choose in unetbootin?
[16:26] <MonkeyDust> Menno  OT: maybe this link is helpful https://www.linux.com/news/software/linux-kernel
[16:26] <mouth1> 11.10 or daily live x64 ?
[16:27] <osse> If I install 12.04 from scratch and specify a certain partition as /home, can I avoid formatting it and keep my data in place?
[16:27] <osse> Perhaps move dotfiles and such out of the way first
[16:27] <Flannel> awisepilot: I'm not going to argue with you there.  But Some people won't see it for a few days anyway just due to the nature of their mirror.  I'm sure there's a way to insist right now, lets just figure out what it is.
[16:28] <sary> dpaigen: so the issue comes from the usb stick itself , i thought youre having an issue booing to the live CD .. in that case it might a grahpic card issue but then you might be able to pass that with some boot-options.
[16:28] <trism> bobweaver: no problem
[16:28] <awisepilot> A simple Oh the way, upgrading from 10.04 to 12.04 will be available next week.  There should be a way Flannel, someone is just not telling us.
[16:29] <DTS> hi ppl
[16:29] <area51pilot> :)
[16:29] <Andy80> david_r: I can't find any "not found" this time and the resolution is parsed and added (else I could not have it right now) the problem is still that is not used by default....
[16:29] <Menno> MonkeyDust: -22 -23 are Ubuntu things
[16:29] <Menno> not upstream
[16:29] <buzzkill> osse:  if the exsting box has /home partitioned separately, yes. If not, then no.
[16:29] <mouth1> can i use startup disk creator that comes with ubuntu 11.10 to create an ubuntu 12.04 usb drive?
[16:29] <Jordan_U> mouth1: What OS are you using to create the USB drive?
[16:30] <mouth1> ubuntu 11.10
[16:30] <Menno> is there a way to see the changelog.Debian without downloading the entire .deb?
[16:30] <david_r> Andy80 in your paste around 16.282 it says Virtual size is 1024x768 (pitch 0)
[16:30] <a_b0y> mouth1 i use Unetbootin
[16:30] <mouth1> Jordan_U, ubuntu 11.10
[16:30] <vitiho> Hi, I'm trying to do an automated install on ubuntu 12.04 over the network and every time I get a message: Warning.. restricted/binary-amd64/Packages was corrupt
[16:30] <Jordan_U> mouth1: Yes: http://www.ubuntu.com/download/help/create-a-usb-stick-on-ubuntu
[16:30] <mouth1> thanks
[16:30] <dpaigen> sary this is an Acer laptop, an Asprire One 722.  Radeon HD 6290 graphics.  Any suggestions for boot options to change?
[16:30] <Jordan_U> mouth1: You're welcome.
[16:31] <DeadMeat67> is there any reason that on both of my 11.10 boxes (one server and one desktop) that I get no new release found when I do-release-upgrade?
[16:31] <vitiho> I've tried to apply solution of unzipping packages file, but then I get message: Couldn't retrieve Packages. This may be a network issue...
[16:31] <DeadMeat67> i've done an apt-get update
[16:31] <Flannel> awisepilot: So, lets try the normal ones, are you fully up to date with 10.04?
[16:31] <Andy80> david_r: maybe there is an option to specify the "virtual size" ?
[16:31] <nosbor> DeadMeat67  ive had that a couple of times today even after doing apt-get update. i think it's just timing out when connecting to the server
[16:31] <dpaigen>  Are there general issues booting older USB sticks on newer motherboards?
[16:32] <DeadMeat67> oh, OK, I'm not on the fastest of links to start with
[16:32] <DeadMeat67> thanks
[16:32] <awisepilot> Flannel: To the tee, I follow instruction precisely
[16:32] <osse> buzzkill, yes the partition in question is my actual /home partition as we speak. I'd like to to a clean install because I have upgraded twice on this install and since I grew up with Windows I just assume at one point everything will break :P
[16:32] <david_r> Andy80 yes, try this: http://pastebin.com/XYdJfn4C
[16:32] <awisepilot> Everything is up to date
[16:32] <Flannel> awisepilot: alright.  And this is a server? or do you prefer the GUI?
[16:33] <ripthejacker> someone please help me
[16:33] <ripthejacker> i am getting this message
[16:33] <ripthejacker> CCP terminated by peer (No compression negotiated^@)
[16:33] <ripthejacker> Compression disabled by peer.
[16:33] <awisepilot> Even check the file release-upgrades and set Prompt=lts.
[16:33] <awisepilot> This is a server
[16:33] <Raimondi_> Hi there. I installed ubuntu via wubi and i've been waiting for half an hour at the "Preparing to run Ubuntu for the first time..." screen. SHould I keep waiting or do something else?
[16:33] <ogra_> awisepilot, LTS to LTS upgrades will only be offered for 12.04.1
[16:33] <Andy80> david_r: done, I'll reboot again. Thanks.
[16:33] <mouth1> Jordan_U, i use AHCI, HPET 64 bit and Power Mode S3, does that work stable with ubuntu or should i revert back to default BIOS settings?
[16:34] <ssfdre38> where is the MD5 string located at on the site?
[16:34] <awisepilot> ogra: not according to this link: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/PrecisePangolin/ReleaseNotes/UbuntuServer
[16:34] <ripthejacker> CCP terminated by peer (No compression negotiated^@)
[16:34] <ripthejacker> Compression disabled by peer.
[16:34] <BFranks> Is gparted the best/only format recovery util I can try? .. It sees the drive and then says it can't make a read-only view of the disk due to locking issues (swap?) ..
[16:34] <ripthejacker> please help me
[16:34] <ogra_> awisepilot, well, then the policy has changed, we never offered LTS to LTS before .1
[16:35] <ogra_> would be a novum
[16:35] <buzzkill> osse:  just make sure you document the existing partition (/dev/sd[a-z][0-9]) and choose manual partitioning. I would _always_ recommend a backup anyway, but I have done this without issue for many releases.
[16:35] <awisepilot> orgra: if the that is the case, the website needs to reflect that information
[16:35] <caleress> hey guys, any1 ever tried to boot ubuntu live from htc android phone via usb cable?
[16:36] <Flannel> awisepilot: Give `do-release-upgrade -d` a try
[16:36] <awisepilot> Flannel: trying now
[16:37] <caleress> like install it on the sd card and then boot
[16:37] <Fulci> I have an install of Ubuntu 12.04 Beta 2 and today it did an update via the update manager. Does that mean I know have the "final" version or do I have to do something special to go from Beta 2 to "final" version?
[16:37] <awisepilot> Flannel: U da man, it is working.  Ogra: It is available, Flannel figured it out.  Now someone needs to update the website to tell everyone the -d option.
[16:38] <smittix> Anyone know how to fix this? GPG error: http://archive.canonical.com precise Release: The following signatures were invalid: BADSIG 40976EAF437D05B5 Ubuntu Archive Automatic Signing Key <ftpmaster@ubuntu.com>
[16:38] <MonkeyDust> awisepilot  worked for me, without the -d option
[16:38] <jamesprice> I downloaded the 12.04-desktop-amd64 torrent a few hours ago; Is it the beta2 or final?  How can I tell?
[16:38] <danopia_> beta2 has beta2 in hte name
[16:38] <Flannel> jamesprice: hash it, then check against the md5 of the final (which you can get from the blagonets)
[16:38] <awisepilot> MonkeyDust: What was your prior version?
[16:38] <sary> dpaigen: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BootOptions
[16:38] <chz|bacon> cheers for ubuntu!
[16:38] <MonkeyDust> awisepilot  it was 11.10, you have another?
[16:39] <jamesprice> thanks
[16:39] <ogra_> awisepilot, oh, indeed if you force it to -d or --development that will always work :)
[16:39] <chz|bacon> so glad the LTS is finally here, kudos to those working on the project.
[16:39] <osse> buzzkill, backups are not a problem :) Do you do anything else before installing? I have a feeling that moving everything to a temporary dir and moving it back afterwards would be a good idea (at least move hidden conf files and stuff in the "standard" directories, XDG-something?=
[16:39] <ogra_> awisepilot, i pinged the relevant people to fix the release notes to not give the impression it is available nefore .1
[16:39] <ogra_> *before
[16:40] <awisepilot> MonkeyDust: I am on 10.04 following the instructions for 10.04 to 12.04 and it does work as instructed by the website.  You need the -d option as Flannel discovered.
[16:40] <abiss27> by chance can someone tell me where can I get, an ubuntu minimal final release 12.04 ISO.
[16:40] <ron> how do I upgrade to 12.04 from console?
[16:40] <MonkeyDust> awisepilot  learned something new then
[16:40] <ripthejacker> CCP terminated by peer (No compression negotiated^@)
[16:40] <ripthejacker> Compression disabled by peer.
[16:40] <nosbor> sudo do-release-upgrade
[16:40] <MonkeyDust> ron  do-release-upgrade
[16:40] <awisepilot> Orga: It is available with the -d option.
[16:40] <Skaag> What's a nice i7 laptop that isn't expensive and will run ubuntu very well?
[16:41] <ron> danke :)
[16:41] <buzzkill> osse:  I just do a 'mount' and note, that on my computer, /dev/sda3 is my /home partition. From there, It is a manual partitioning option (and choose the right filesystem, and not to format) that's all.
[16:41] <Skaag> I bought this asus u46e yesterday from best buy but it doesn't even boot the USB stick I prepared
[16:41] <dpaigen> sary: I will investigate.  Thanks for the pointer.
[16:41] <ripthejacker> can someone help me i am getting this message
[16:41] <ron> have a great <time of day>!
[16:41] <ripthejacker> CCP terminated by peer (No compression negotiated^@)
[16:41] <ripthejacker> Compression disabled by peer.
[16:41] <Andy80> david_r: I still have the same problem, and this is the new log: http://pastebin.com/pTpf2WrJ - please note another problem (don't know if they're related or not) from the moment I enter my password and press enter and the moment I get Unity fully loaded, it takes about 20-30 seconds :\ (I've an Intel Core 2 3Ghx and 4Gb RAM, not a so slow PC...)
[16:41] <awisepilot> Flannel: How did you figure the -d option out?
[16:41] <belgianguy> I can't upgrade
[16:42] <belgianguy> says it has problems veryfying packets Flash and Skype
[16:42] <MonkeyDust> belgianguy  what goes wrong?
[16:42] <acalbaza> anyone having trouble with eclipse context menus in 12.04?
[16:42] <rymate1234> meh
[16:42] <Fulci> Will the UPDATE MANAGER automatically update 12.04 Beta 2 to the FINAL version or do I have to do something special?
[16:42] <osse> buzzkill, sure, no problem. I just don't want it to overwrite my .bashrc or delete my Shotwell database
[16:42] <rymate1234> Fulci, seems to be
[16:42] <Skaag> acalbaza: Maybe try the regular java from sun instead of openjdk
[16:42] <rymate1234> its taking a while to download
[16:42] <belgianguy> adobe-flash-properties-gtk | adobe-flashplugin | skype | skype-bin:i386
[16:42] <Skaag> acalbaza: Just a guess
[16:43] <zrtsch> Does anyone know what causes the error mountall: Plymouth command failed, mountall: Disconnected from plymouth ? This is happening on first install on several machines lately
[16:43] <MonkeyDust> belgianguy  how do you upgrade, gui, terminal?
[16:43] <belgianguy> MonkeyDust: gui
[16:43] <Andy80> Fulci: yes it should... if you don't have any upgrades available, you already have latest version
[16:43] <buzzkill> osse:  those are in /home/osse (or what ever your username is) and should not be touched at all.
[16:44] <Flannel> awisepilot: Uh... -d is standard for upgrading to development releases, which is what 10.04 is going to treat 12.04 as (for purposes of update manager) before the "ok, its time to upgrade" is pushed out.
[16:44] <alien64> holy crap 1510 packages to upgrade from 11.10 to 12.04
[16:44] <acalbaza> Skaag: sorry about that, running hotspot 1.6.0.26 at the moment
[16:44] <rhizmoe> i can't find any place where "ubuntu alternate" is explained
[16:44] <Fulci> Thanks all for anwersing my questions. Have a nice day!
[16:44] <buzzkill> osse:  you could of course always tar them up, if space and time are not issues.
[16:44] <Flannel> rhizmoe: What about it do you want to know?
[16:44] <Skaag> acalbaza: im not familiar with hotspot
[16:44] <disrageous> Help me get rid of this Unity UI and go back to the old way!
[16:44] <MonkeyDust> alien64  yes, took more than 60 miutes here
[16:44] <acalbaza> Skaag: "Sun's" jdk
[16:44] <gizero> Hi. How do I get my Google Calendar events integrated into the stock calendar widget in Ubuntu?
[16:44] <Skaag> I see
[16:45] <Skaag> Strange then
[16:45] <rhizmoe> Flannel: what it is!
[16:45] <osse> buzzkill, but new users (including on a fresh install) get their own .bashrc and so on. So what if there is one there already?
[16:45] <tehowe_> disrageous: install gnome. log out. log back in using gnome-classic
[16:45] <ogra_> awisepilot, -d just means upgrade to the next version regardless (-d means developpment version)
[16:45] <osse> Well, it's actually pretty easy. I back it up and see what happens! :)
[16:45] <ogra_> awisepilot, its documented in the manpage
[16:46] <acalbaza> Skaag: i'm not sure if its 12.04 mouse handling or if its eclipse.
[16:46] <Flannel> rhizmoe: So, the Desktop CD is a LiveCD, that you can install from.  The alternate CD is an install CD (no LiveCD) its text-based (text menus) and installs from packages contained on the CD.  It gives you more flexibility with what to install,
[16:46] <action09> hi on a Giada n20 i install 12.04 but during copy of installation files i've no progress bar increasing and a lot of "ata1.00: status error, configured for UDMA/133 and error [{ UNC } ..any clue please ?
[16:46] <awisepilot> orga: -d option is the development version of 12.04?
[16:46] <ogra_> awisepilot, as i said, i notified the right people to fix the releaswe notes to mention its only enabled at .1 time
[16:46] <abiss27> by chance can someone tell me where can I get, an ubuntu minimal final release 12.04 ISO.
[16:46] <tehowe_> Flannel: Are the amd64-uefi-mac and powerpc desktop ISOs Live CDs as well?
[16:46] <rhizmoe> and for what it's worth, the explanation of alternate here seems overly terse: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation
[16:46] <Flannel> rhizmoe: It's the same installer "experience" as the server CD, and the minimal CD is the alternate CD without the packages.
[16:47] <Flannel> tehowe_: Any "Desktop" CD is a LiveCD
[16:47] <rymate1234> hmmm
[16:47] <ogra_> awisepilot, no, it just tells do-release-upgrade "use the next available version" (which is usually the development version)
[16:47] <belgianguy> nowadays opting for a LiveUSB is even more fun
[16:47] <rymate1234> how would I check what version of ubuntu I'm running
[16:47] <belgianguy> you can save files then
[16:47] <rhizmoe> Flannel: not sure i understand it, but on a day like today this is just a curious quibble on my part. not important. :)
[16:47] <MonkeyDust> rymate1234  lsb_release -sd
[16:47] <rymate1234> so i can see whether I'm on the final version or the beta
[16:47] <david_r> Andy80 add this to your "Monitor" section: Option      "PreferredMode" "1680x1050"
[16:47] <rymate1234> thx MonkeyDust
[16:48] <awisepilot> orga: What is development version then?
[16:48] <Flannel> rhizmoe: The desktop CD installs by copying the LiveCD image onto your computer (so it has very little flexibility on what packages ot install), with the alternate CD, youcan install a GUI, textmode only, only certain packages, etc, etc.
[16:48] <ogra_> awisepilot, since there are thousands of commercial users of ubuntu server, LTS to LTS is always only enabled once the .1 version is out
[16:48] <disrageous> tehowe, Literally the "gnome" package, and all its 275 dependencies?
[16:48] <Steevca> I have just upgraded to 12.04 and the launcher won't hide.What should i do?
[16:48] <david_r> Andy80 and you can probably remove the virtual screen size.
[16:48] <yannick> is 12.04 available in software update? couldn't find it atm :(
[16:48] <Andy80> david_r: I remove the whole SubSection?
[16:48] <ogra_> awisepilot, there is no development version on release day :) (next week there will be the Q version, open for development)
[16:48] <nosbor> rymate1234  I use the nice tool called sysinfo  you can get it from the repositories
[16:49] <disrageous> tehowe_,  Literally the "gnome" package, and all its 275 dependencies?
[16:49] <david_r> yeah you probably dont need it any more
[16:49] <david_r> if the preferredmode thing works
[16:49] <rhizmoe> Flannel: ah, so like "advanced mode," thanks!
[16:49] <n8ofsp8ds> can someone please help me
[16:49] <Andy80> david_r: ok, let me try again, thanks :)
[16:50] <rhizmoe> n8ofsp8ds: only if you ask a question
[16:50] <awisepilot> Orga:  I just did the -d option and now I am at the point where it download 312 M of data and asking me if I want to Continue or not.  What is it trying to install?
[16:50] <teicah> how do I zoom desktop in brand new installed precise?
[16:50] <Flannel> rhizmoe: Sure, but it can also be simple (asking the same questions as the LiveCD), it just gives you the option of asking more questions
[16:50] <n8ofsp8ds> ok my mic freezes ubuntu
[16:50] <ogra_> awisepilot, 12.04
[16:50] <sary> dpaigen: you're most welcom , i think there is a specific kernel boot option to pass your AMD/ATI card , but i can't quite remember !
[16:51] <ogra_> awisepilot, with 12.04.1 you will not need -d
[16:51] <beachkid> New here so please bear with me.  Does anyone know the md5sum number for 'ubuntu-12.04-desktop-i386.iso'?
[16:51] <nitzs> why doesn't the dash cover the entire screen?
[16:51] <awisepilot> Ogra: I am confussed.  You said it was not available until verion 12.04.1.
[16:52] <bazhang> !hashes | beachkid
[16:52] <llutz> beachkid: http://releases.ubuntu.com/precise/MD5SUMS
[16:52] <ogra_> awisepilot, yes, with -d you force the upgrade
[16:52] <teicah> how do I zoom desktop in brand new installed precise? 10x
[16:52] <RobinJ1995> How long is it supposed to take GParted to resize a partition? :/
[16:52] <Dr_willis> RobinJ1995,  depends on a lot of things
[16:52] <beachkid> Thanks!
[16:52] <RobinJ1995> Dr_willis, like..? :p
[16:53] <beandog> RobinJ1995: a looooooong time usually
[16:53] <n8ofsp8ds> is there something i need to change so my logitech wont freeze ubuntu ?
[16:53] <awisepilot> Ogra_: Is there a problem using he forces upgrade?
[16:53] <awisepilot> Ogra_: Is there a problem using the forces upgrade?
[16:53] <beandog> RobinJ1995: don't stop it or you'll really bork everything
[16:53] <cap> I'm hoping to use a Libertas 802.11b/g Wireless network interface and was trying to follow some instructions at: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs/Driver/mrv8k  and doesn't seem to work for me.  Maybe there are some updated instructions.  (OS=10.04.4 LTS)
[16:53] <awisepilot> Ogra_: Is there a problem using the forced upgrade?
[16:53] <cousin_luigi> hello
[16:53] <RobinJ1995> Dr_willis, it's a 6-core 3.3 Ghz with 8GB of RAM, and a 2TB hard drive :p
[16:53] <belgianguy> how much of a liability is it to be on xchat while upgrading?
[16:53] <RobinJ1995> beandog, i know
[16:53] <beandog> belgianguy: none
[16:53] <matc21> I can't login anymore after installing 12.04 and keeping my /home partition. anyone has a clue how to fix this?
[16:53] <belgianguy> beandog: great
[16:54] <ogra_> awisepilot, no, but the official upgrade will only be enabled on .1 ... i wouldnt suggest to use -d on a company server though
[16:54] <RobinJ1995> belgianguy, zou ni uit moge make :p
[16:54]  * cousin_luigi upgraded from cd and now he's receiving a bad sig error from apt: tried deleting and recreating /var/lib/apt/lists but nothing changed: any hints?
[16:55] <Andy80> david_r: it didn't work, but a question... maybe it should be Option      "PreferredMode" "1680x1050R" ? please note the "R" since I've Modeline "1680x1050R"  119.00  1680 1728 1760 1840  1050 1053 1059 1080 +hsync -vsync
[16:55] <RobinJ1995> Why didn't I just create a seperate partition for data from the start >.< now i have to spend hours to move everything over
[16:55] <cap> matc21: What kind of error do you see?
[16:55] <beandog> Does anyone know any good cloud storage options that have linux tools?
[16:55] <zrtsch> Does anyone know what causes the error mountall: Plymouth command failed, mountall: Disconnected from plymouth ? This is happening on first install on several machines lately
[16:55] <RobinJ1995> beandog, ubuntu one
[16:55] <david_r> Andy80: That makes sense but I don't know the answer
[16:56] <matc21> cap can't see any errors, they are disappearing instantly
[16:56] <zrtsch> I've fixed it before by editing the grub line, but I forget what it was that I changed
[16:56] <Andy80> david_r: I'll just try :)
[16:56] <beandog> RobinJ1995: oh yah, derp ... why didnt I think of that.
[16:56] <matc21> cap: login into guest account works fine
[16:56] <belgianguy> RobinJ1995: dan ga ik het riskeren ;)
[16:56] <zrtsch> People online are referring to nvidia drivers, but I just installed ubuntu minimal. I don't have any nvidia drivers installed.
[16:56] <Steevca> I have just upgraded to 12.04 and the launcher won't hide.What should i do? Can anyone help me with this? The launcher won't auto hide,it's stuck on the left side on of the screen and won't move when i open an folder or some software.
[16:56] <RobinJ1995> :p
[16:56] <belgianguy> I'll keep the rest in English :p
[16:56] <cap> matc21: Do you have a user set up for /home/matc21  (with same name?)
[16:56] <matc21> cap: yes same name, even the same password
[16:56] <teicah> how do I zoom desktop in brand new installed precise? 10x
[16:57] <beandog> RobinJ1995: do you know if they have some good cli tools?  that's what I need
[16:57] <RobinJ1995> beandog, cli tools for what?
[16:57] <cap> matc21: What happens when you boot the system?  What do you see on the screen?
[16:57] <beandog> RobinJ1995: uploading stuff
[16:57] <RobinJ1995> eh
[16:57] <RobinJ1995> just dump it in your ubuntu one folder? :p
[16:57] <RobinJ1995> then it gets uploaded automatically
[16:57] <elkingrey> I've just run the sudo apt-get update command in order to begin the upgrade process to 12.04 and received this error: http://pastebin.com/L7u90hCw Anybody know what that's all about?
[16:57] <matc21> cap: booting is perfectly fine, it just goes back to lightDM
[16:57] <beandog> RobinJ1995: hmm okay
[16:57] <RobinJ1995> so cp ./file ~/Ubuntu\ One/file
[16:57] <cousin_luigi> W: GPG error: http://archive.canonical.com precise Release: The following signatures were invalid: BADSIG 40976EAF437D05B5
[16:58] <cap> matc21: what is "lightDM"
[16:58] <matc21> the login manager
[16:58] <RobinJ1995> hahah updates are going just as crappy as always? :p
[16:58] <RobinJ1995> *upgrades
[16:58] <cap> matc21: So can you type in the name of the user?
[16:59] <matc21> cap: yes, even the password...then I press login, screen goes black and back to login again
[16:59] <cap> !password | matc21
[16:59] <matc21> cap: its definitely not a wrong password
[16:59] <RobinJ1995> matc21, yay, you've got a crashing lightdm =D
[17:00] <RobinJ1995> honestly, beta 2 was more bugfree than the release xD
[17:00] <cap> matc21: Ctrl-ALt-F6   and login
[17:00] <matc21> lemme try
[17:00] <matc21> brb
[17:00] <RobinJ1995> 2 crashes and 2 bugs so far
[17:00] <RobinJ1995> none with beta 2
[17:00] <RobinJ1995> appart from pulseaudio
[17:00] <matc21> F6 mode works fine
[17:01] <gizero> In the Dash, how do I switch from one "tab" (the bottom ones) to another using the keyboard?
[17:01] <matc21> can login without problems
[17:01] <RobinJ1995> gizero, ctrl+tab
[17:01] <Andy80> david_r: this time it worked :) thank you so much!
[17:01] <gizero> RobinJ1995, Thank you
[17:02] <david_r> Internet high five!
[17:02] <juhy> hello everybody
[17:03] <nosbor> (18:01:24) nosbor: i'm sure it's been asked before but does anyone know where the md5sum check sums can be found for 12.04 ?
[17:03] <vaska> zghghj
[17:03] <llutz> nosbor:  http://releases.ubuntu.com/precise/MD5SUMS
[17:03] <GriGi> Hi, I just updated 11.10 to 12.04 and got little problem with Unity :/. In 11.10 bar on the left was "fixed" but it was hiding when I maximalized something or drag some window over that bar. But now it doesn't hide :/. I found option in Settings -> Apperance, called "autohide", but then bar hide even when nothing is maximised.
[17:03] <nosbor> thanks :)
[17:03] <Dan-The-Man> nosbor, is it bad that I never check the md5 when installing ubuntu
[17:03] <gizero> You're supposed to be able to configure Unity in the Appearence section of system settings I've read, but you can only change like 3-4 things there. That's it?
[17:03] <DTS> Jesus is alive amin!
[17:04] <GriGi> I want it to hide when some window is maximalised, but when everything is minimalised it shouldn't hide :/. Can I do that? I was trying MyUnity, but it have only the same option like Settings -> Apperance.
[17:04] <Dan-The-Man> GriGi, i think that feature was called window dodge and i beleive its been removed
[17:05] <krababbel> teicah: don't you have the icon in the menu bar at the top?
[17:05] <nosbor> Dan-the-man     no i normally don't but this time i've done it via a torrent and want to make sure on before installing on my main machine
[17:05] <pwasek> I am looking for a crm solution any suggestions?
[17:05] <cap> matc21: Well, https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/lightdm/+bug/902698 or https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/lightdm/+bug/903299 or  https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/lightdm/+bug/973184
[17:05] <Dan-The-Man> nosbor, ah i see, makes sense
[17:05] <GriGi> Dan-The-Man, Yes, it was window dodge :/. Im afraid that you're right, it's not a bug it's a feature -,-.
[17:06] <testi> I have Ubuntu 10.04. How do I update to 12.04? I expected the update management to notify me, but it doesn't
[17:06] <RobinJ1995> testi, update-manager -g (i think)
[17:06] <nosbor> Dan-The-Man   as it turns out i've just checked it and all is fine. of i go to create the cd from ISO   :)
[17:07] <r4y> I want to know when 12.04.01 will come out and if I should wait for it to come out?, I want to back up my files from my other hard drive. I just had hard drive troubles, but I used dban then spinrite so I am ready to back up.
[17:07] <RobinJ1995> GriGi, in Unity 2D you can get that beheaviour back using my (unfinished) tool: http://www.robinj.be/unity-2d-config-util/
[17:07] <testi> RobinJ1995, "man update-manager" doesn't list the -g option.
[17:08] <RobinJ1995> testi, just try, i dunno
[17:08] <openvoid_> testi do-releade-update -d
[17:08] <RobinJ1995> testi, my bad, it's -d
[17:08] <Pici> openvoid_: RobinJ1995, testi: do not use -d
[17:08] <GriGi> RobinJ1995, but it doesn't work in normal Unity, only 2D? Thanks anyway, I'll try it :).
[17:08] <testi> RobinJ1995, but -d is for devel-releases
[17:08] <RobinJ1995> oh
[17:09] <RobinJ1995> i thought devel-release just meant release >.<
[17:09] <openvoid_> but its not recommended on companys servers
[17:09] <RobinJ1995> testi, in that case, do what openvoid says
[17:09] <cap> matc21: Do permissions look ok in your /home/matc21 directory?
[17:09] <RobinJ1995> GriGi, dunno for sure about unity 3d
[17:09] <dimitris> hello
[17:09] <Artemis3> RobinJ1995, -d is for the next version in development, 12.10
[17:09] <dimitris> i just installed ubuntu 12.04 but i have a bug
[17:10] <openvoid_> there no next development version until next week
[17:10] <oglavas> Hello. Anyone here with 12.04 and Cinnamon ?
[17:10] <Guest34418> Why Ubuntu changed to using Empathy? I liked Pidgin better.
[17:10] <henaaque> how do i install drivers to inte gma 4500?  (ubuntu 12.04)
[17:10] <GriGi> RobinJ1995, can you tell me how to install it? I've hever installed anything from launchpad
[17:10] <Artemis3> Guest34418, just install pidgin ;)
[17:10] <Guest34418> Empathy does have better conversation dialog appearance though.
[17:10] <Monotoko> hey guys... why is my update keeping some back? http://pastebin.com/unjQWNkX
[17:11] <tehcaseman> back. using xchat. easy enough
[17:11] <dimitris> the screen is too dark to see what is there ! but screen still works ( tested on windows)
[17:11] <Guest34418> Artemis3: YEa... But I would rather my chat client to be better integreated with Unity.
[17:11] <Dan-The-Man> Guest34418, just install pidgin, go to system settings, then details, then prefered apps and change it to pidgin
[17:11] <belgianguy> Guest34418: xchat?
[17:11] <RobinJ1995> GriGi, it doesn't have a deb package yet. just download the exe here (yes, it's an exe, and yes, it's for linux): http://bazaar.launchpad.net/~robinj/unity-2d-config-util/trunk/files/head:/bin/Debug/
[17:12] <RobinJ1995> GriGi, sudo apt-get install mono
[17:12] <RobinJ1995> GriGi, and then you should be able to run it
[17:12] <Zef> coma
[17:12] <Artemis3> belgianguy, xchat is an irc client
[17:12] <GriGi> Okay, thanks. I'll try :).
[17:12] <belgianguy> lol
[17:12] <belgianguy> I wasn't paying attention
[17:12] <belgianguy> sorry
[17:12] <belgianguy> disregard that
[17:12] <testi> do-release-upgrade says: Checking for a new ubuntu release
[17:12] <testi> No new release found
[17:12] <oglavas> I have been using Cinnamon for a couple of weeks now, but just this noon, it gave me an empty desktop with no icons/bars/menus. Does anyone have an idea on what's going on?
[17:12] <Monotoko> hmm... why is my update keeping some back?  :( I would quite like those wallpapers, I'm on beta2 http://pastebin.com/unjQWNkX
[17:12] <testi> What can I do about that?
[17:12] <Dan-The-Man> this channel is moving hella fast right now lol
[17:13] <testi> Maybe it's not yet on my mirror?
[17:13] <RobinJ1995> GriGi, it's my first linux application, and it's unfinished, but the basic features work well enough.
[17:13] <openvoid_> testi with -d ?
[17:13] <Pici> openvoid_: please stop suggesting -d.
[17:13] <Guest34418> belgianguy: Ewww no. Lol, but thanks for the suggestion though. I like Konversation IRC better. The thing with Xchat is that quite a few of their stuff is not documented and I do not like how I can not DO server notices and have /WHOIS appear in the same chat window I am currently looking at.
[17:13] <testi> openvoid_ it says -d is for development releases
[17:13] <Pici> openvoid_: That is only for upgrading to development releases. 12.04 is no longer the development release.
[17:13] <ogra_> Pici, well, its ok, but should be suggested with a warning
[17:13] <openvoid_> -d is safe until nex week
[17:13] <GriGi> RobinJ1995, "sudo apt-get install mono" -> "Can't find package called mono" :/
[17:13] <testi> Could it be that my local mirror doesn't have it yet?
[17:13] <trism> Monotoko: you need to: sudo apt-get dist-upgrade; (the ubuntu-wallpapers were split out into ubuntu-wallpapers-precise, so it needs to install a new package)
[17:13] <dimitris> the laptop's  screen is too dark to see what is there ! but screen still works ( tested on windows) ubuntu works correctly from external monitor ! any sugestions ?
[17:14] <RobinJ1995> GriGi, er... what? >.< don't tell me they removed it from the repos...
[17:14] <ogra_> Pici, -d is exactly what you need until 12.04.1 enables the automatic upgrades
[17:14] <Monotoko> trism, that did it! Thank you
[17:14] <Pici> ogra_: really? Is this documented anywhere?
[17:14] <Dan-The-Man> dimitris, what laptop
[17:14] <openvoid_> the 10.04 will not updated until .1 is out
[17:14] <dimitris> emachine e525
[17:14] <nitzs> Dan-The-Man: this moment doesn't occur everyday.
[17:14] <dimitris> emachines e525
[17:14] <Artemis3> dimitris, did you try using the laptop keys for brightness? usually fn - something
[17:14] <RobinJ1995> GriGi, it's been renamed mono-runtime
[17:14] <dimitris> yes
[17:15] <Monotoko> hmmm... I think the GB repo is being hammered :/
[17:15] <Johhn> My brother trolled my and removed unity from ubuntu 12.04.How do i get it back?
[17:15] <dimitris> i have full brightness and software and hardware ;)
[17:15] <Johhn> I am stuck with unity-2d
[17:15] <RobinJ1995> Johhn, by torturing him :')
[17:15] <intrader> Where does tomboy store files in 11.10. In 10.10 I could find a folder .tomboy (hidden)
[17:15] <RobinJ1995> Johhn, sudo apt-get install unity
[17:15] <Johhn> RobinJ1995: That is for sure.
[17:15] <Johhn> :D
[17:16] <Dan-The-Man> dimitris, please type my name when talking so i can see the comment easier.  http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1964814 try the section about fixing screen brightness (I realize its a different laptop but its worth a shot)
[17:16] <openvoid_> the 10.04 will not be updated until .1 is out, testi -d will force it, but ok only until next week and not good for valuable servers
[17:16] <Artemis3> dimitris, is it working fine with another OS; live cd?
[17:16] <Johhn> RobinJ1995: I did that.I can log out and click the unity but when it enteres there is nothing.Just a wallpaper.
[17:16] <Johhn> He tolled me that he had remove compiz package.
[17:16] <RobinJ1995> ouch, er...
[17:16] <Pici> openvoid_: sorry, my mistake.
[17:16] <Johhn> Unity,unity-desktop or something.
[17:16] <RobinJ1995> Johhn, would explain it. sudo apt-get install ompiz
[17:17] <RobinJ1995> *copiz
[17:17] <Johhn> Idiot.I am going to kill him.
[17:17] <RobinJ1995> *compiz
[17:17] <RobinJ1995> can't type xd
[17:17] <testi> openvoid, so how would you update after next week and before .1 is out?
[17:17] <ogra_> openvoid, even after next week -d will get you to 12.04 ... (do-release-upgrade wont skip a version)
[17:17] <GriGi> RobinJ1995, Okay it shows that I already got mono-runtime. I clicked RMB on that .exe, and choose "run in mono-runtime" and nothing happens. When I choose "run in mono-runtime in console" console just apperars and disappear after one second
[17:17] <testi> ogra_, okay - thanks!
[17:17] <RobinJ1995> GriGi, derp
[17:17] <auronandace> ogra_: doesn't -d imply development?
[17:17] <RobinJ1995> GriGi, er.... open a terminal and go to the folder where the exe is stored. then run it from a terminal
[17:18] <ogra_> auronandace, yes, but if the next release isnt a development release it will just force the upgrade to the next available
[17:18] <RobinJ1995> GriGi, that way you can see what the problem is, and i can try to fix it now or in a future version :p
[17:18] <Dan-The-Man> RobinJ1995, exe for linux!?
[17:18] <dimitris> Artemis3 it works fine on windows but i has the same problem and on backtrak :S
[17:18] <RobinJ1995> Dan-The-Man, yes
[17:18] <auronandace> ogra_: thanks for the info
[17:18] <RobinJ1995> Dan-The-Man, gnome do, docky, ... are all exe's
[17:18] <RobinJ1995> even tomboy
[17:19] <ogra_> -d just means "do it even if its not enabled yet"
[17:19] <GriGi> RobinJ1995, I should type ./filename.exe ?
[17:19] <Dan-The-Man> dimitris, did u try my suggestion?
[17:19] <RobinJ1995> GriGi, think so, works for mze
[17:19] <anomalies> err.. no aircrack-ng at 12.04
[17:19] <dlentz> Dan-The-Man, mono programs use exe
[17:19] <RobinJ1995> anomalies, airecrack-ng
[17:19] <belgianguy> mono = C# wrapper, right?
[17:20] <RobinJ1995> belgianguy, yeah
[17:20] <anomalies> ouw
[17:20] <GriGi> RobinJ1995, it needed "chmod 777 filename.exe". But when I did that, and then did ./filename.exe it show me a lot of errors :P
[17:20] <Dan-The-Man> dimitris, ?!?!?
[17:20] <dimitris> Dan-The-Man i am sorry i didn't knew it (about the name) i am reading the solution in order to see if it will work !
[17:20] <RobinJ1995> GriGi, please pastebin the errors and gimme a link :p
[17:20] <RobinJ1995> should've thought of chmod :p
[17:20] <Dan-The-Man> dimitris, haha alright
[17:20] <GriGi> RobinJ1995, http://pastebin.com/WsEU3VA2
[17:20] <Dan-The-Man> dimitris, only the section about the screen brightness obviously
[17:20] <rodd> Hi folks, I'd love to update my 10.04 lts to 12.04 lts however it isn't showing in the update manager, am I missing something?
[17:21] <RobinJ1995> er
[17:21] <fsgxdroid> which version do you prefere for desktop ubuntu, 32bit(with PAE) or 64bit?
[17:21] <dimitris> Dan-The-Man i know ;) section 3 !
[17:21] <Dan-The-Man> dimitris, just checkin ;)
[17:21] <RobinJ1995> GriGi, can you make an archive of your /usr/share/unity-2d/ folder and pass it on to me? there's somethiung it doesn't recognise in your QML files
[17:22] <Church-> fsgxdroid: i'd choose depending on ram amount. and between 32bit or 64bit, leaving PAE out.
[17:22] <razlaz> Hi, someone just asked me to send them my ssh key so I can have access to their server - how do i do this?
[17:22] <razlaz> i've made a key with ssh-keygen
[17:22] <fsgxdroid> Church-: ok, i have 8gigs of ram, so 64 bit is the way to go? not even considering 32bit + PAE?
[17:22] <Artemis3> rodd, https://wiki.ubuntu.com/PrecisePangolin/ReleaseNotes/UbuntuDesktop#Upgrading_from_Ubuntu_10.04_LTS_to_Ubuntu_12.04_LTS
[17:22] <voobles> anybody knows how to completely remove policykit-1 from 10.04 desktop and if it is at all possible?
[17:23] <razlaz> do i just send them my ~/.ssh/id_rsa.pub file?
[17:23] <Monotoko> razlaz, send them the .pub file in your .ssh folder
[17:23] <Church-> fsgxdroid: indeed. just go for normal 64bit.
[17:23] <RobinJ1995> voobles, wouldn't recommend it. last time i tried i ruined everything xd
[17:23] <razlaz> Monotoko: okay, thanks!
[17:23] <Monotoko> razlaz, no problem :)
[17:23] <RobinJ1995> fsgxdroid, PAE is always slower
[17:23] <acalbaza> quick question... i updated to final beta, do i need to perform another update to get to 12.05 LTS?
[17:23] <fsgxdroid> RobinJ1995: didn't know that, ty
[17:23] <Church-> +even with PAE ram for single app is limited to 2GB
[17:23] <acalbaza> 12.04 rather
[17:23] <RobinJ1995> GriGi, you still there? :p
[17:24] <Monotoko> acalbaza, I came in with that same question :) just run apt-get dist-upgrade
[17:24] <acalbaza> Monotoko: thanks
[17:24] <Monotoko> and it'll fetch the new packages
[17:24] <Monotoko> no problem :)
[17:24] <GriGi> RobinJ1995, Yes, here you go :). http://speedy.sh/tP2Kv/unity-2d.tar.gz
[17:24] <dimitris> Dan-The-Man on the link you send me : i have to add : splash acpi_backlight=vendor or splash acpi_backlight=emachines ???
[17:24] <cap> acalbaza: Go to the update manager, click settings and choose LTS, or make sure it is chosen.
[17:24] <GriGi> RobinJ1995,  but Im on Unity 3D, not 2D, maybe it's because of that? I should be logged into Unity 2D?
[17:25] <dimitris> Dan-The-Man is it a varaible ??? :S (not sure :( )
[17:25] <escott> Church-, 4GB for a single app, which is more than sufficient for most applications out there
[17:25] <Dan-The-Man> dimitris, vendor should do the trick
[17:25] <rodd> Artemis3, got an error GPG error: http://archive.canonical.com lucid Release: The following signatures were invalid: BADSIG 40976EAF437D05B5
[17:25] <RobinJ1995> GriGi, thanks, I'll examine that and hopefully I'll have a fix ready within a week :p
[17:25] <Gary_inNYC> could i run precise pangolin in an older laptop like my thinkpad t40 if I run it with Unity 2d?  I've been using lucid for years and just don't know
[17:25] <dimitris> Dan-The-Man ok ;)
[17:25] <Church-> escott: on 32bit with pae? you get increased total ammount of ram. NOT for single app.
[17:25] <RobinJ1995> probably won't have much time this weekend
[17:26] <escott> Church-, you said the limit is 2GB, but its not its 4GB
[17:26] <Dan-The-Man> dimitris, u have to restart for it to take effect as well
[17:26] <razlaz> Monotoko: then when I've sent it and they've done whatever they need to do, I can just ssh into the server without any specified options?
[17:26] <RobinJ1995> escott, 3.2GB
[17:26] <Church-> escott: ok, i'll recheck, as i'm 90% sure it's 2gb
[17:26] <Monotoko> razlaz, did you put a passphrase on the key?
[17:26] <razlaz> Monotoko: I didn't
[17:26] <dimitris> Dan-The-Man "You do not have the permissions necessary to save the file. Please check that you typed the location correctly and try again."
[17:27] <Artemis3> rodd, try to update again software sources
[17:27] <escott> Church-, 2^32=4096 MB=4GB
[17:27] <Artemis3> rodd, or change mirror
[17:27] <Guest34418> Artemis3: I do see an option to make pidgin default messenger.
[17:27] <Monotoko> razlaz, strongly advise you had but it's okay... your key file acts as the password, just run "ssh <user>@<host>" and it will try your keys with the machine you're logging into
[17:27] <B|tchX> yeahhhh bches
[17:28] <Dan-The-Man> dimitris, gksu gedit /etc/default/grub
[17:28] <Guest34418> But I do see "Gedit" as default calendar. o_O
[17:28] <rodd> Artemis3, alright, will try thanks
[17:28] <RobinJ1995> escott, 2^32=4294967296
[17:28] <Dan-The-Man> dimitris, this will open the file in gedit as root
[17:28] <Guest34418> Hey B|tchX, having fun?
[17:28] <razlaz> Monotoko: awesome, thanks!
[17:28] <Zermann> Hi, how do i try HUD?
[17:28] <Mkaysi> Guest34418: I was wondering that too. Gedit is text editor, not calendar.
[17:28] <escott> RobinJ1995, im not sure what you are trying to say to me. I know what 2^32 is.
[17:28] <Monotoko> Zermann, the HUD is unity
[17:29] <B|tchX> Guest34418, I don't want it yet
[17:29] <Zermann> Monotoko, ok what is the key to use it?
[17:29] <Dan-The-Man> Zermann, alt
[17:29] <dimitris> Dan-The-Man it opened and saved it corectly !
[17:30] <Zermann> Monotoko, tnx!
[17:30] <ojii> I'm getting this error http://ubuntuone.com/0YGbfhrp5NaguPAVZBdvIi when trying to upgrade, do i just try later or should I just uninstall those packages?
[17:31] <dimitris> Dan-The-Man i am rebooting and i"ll be back !
[17:31] <GriGi> Okay, I have to go. Thanks for help RobinJ1995. Maybe I'll come back here, and I will try you program when you will fix it :).
[17:31] <Dan-The-Man> dimitris, kk!
[17:31] <danel__> linux mint x chat seems different then the irc for ubuntu
[17:31] <Dan-The-Man> Zermann, hey i answered you lol
[17:31] <upset> Hello y'all. Got the alternative iso, ran defect check, getting an error about my md5 checksum. I'm not familiar with this issue. What can I do?
[17:31] <B|tchX> what danel__ ?
[17:31] <Monotoko> Zermann, indeed... Dan-The-Man gets the credit there :P
[17:31] <Zermann> Dan-The-Man, arg i missed you, thank you too
[17:31] <Trieste> Hi, I'm using 11.04, and now that 12.04 has been released, I'd like to upgrade to it, but I only get an "upgrade to 11.10" button in the update manager, what should I do?
[17:32] <Trieste> upset: redownload, probably
[17:32] <Steevca> I am using ubuntu 12.04 and i can't get the unity launcher to autohide when using some program.
[17:32] <upset> Trieste: Same place? It was actually the ubuntu website....
[17:32] <Monotoko> Trieste, you will have to do an upgrade to 11.10 then to 12.04...
[17:32] <Steevca> I am using unity-2d
[17:32] <Monotoko> a clean install would probably be easiest
[17:32] <Trieste> upset: or check the md5 checksum of the iso and burn it again
[17:32] <cargo23> In 'Terminal' I need to use the F10 key for htop.  However, that brings up a menu instead of being sent to htop.  I go to Edit -> Keyboard shortcuts, and it has a checkbox to Enable "Menu Shortcut Keys (F10 by default)".   I uncheck the box, but F10 still opens the menu.  What to do?
[17:32] <upset> Trieste: You should back up for files and do a clean install.
[17:33] <Trieste> Monotoko: hrm, I was told I could update straight to 12.04
[17:33] <Dan-The-Man> Monotoko, Zermann, haha
[17:33] <upset> Upset: Or? Isn't that what I just did?
[17:33] <danel__> yes ctrl alt +f10 brings me to a terminal prompt
[17:33] <Monotoko> Trieste, only if you have 10.04... you can then do the LTS upgrade
[17:33] <danel__> what is the problem that a clean install is needed?
[17:33] <Monotoko> not with non-LTS versions
[17:33] <dimitris> Dan-The-Man didn't work :(
[17:33] <danel__> can you copy and paste your files to an external drive?
[17:33] <upset> Upset: I don't know how to check the md5 checksum before I write it to the usb drive.
[17:34] <Dr_willis> !md5sum
[17:34] <upset> Dr_Willis ubottu: wonderful
[17:34] <Dan-The-Man> dimitris, sorry man, thats all i got
[17:34] <openvoid_> lts to lts update will be available when .1 is out
[17:34] <intrader> I have not been able to find out where does tomboy store files in 11.10. In 10.10 I could find a folder .tomboy (hidden)
[17:34] <Trieste> Monotoko: oh dammit, I did say I was using 10.04 (accidentally), so that would explain it
[17:34] <Steevca> Anyone?
[17:34] <rymate1234> hey
[17:34] <pawan_tejwani> Is there any other source to download ubuntu 12.04 LTS other than ubuntu.com ? It's not getting downloaded ... :(
[17:34] <Trieste> pawan_tejwani: torrents
[17:34] <markss> Today two of my Ubuntu 10.04/lucid machines now give an error on apt-get update saying "GPG error: http://archive.canonical.com lucid Release: The following signatures were invalid: BADSIG 40976EAF437D05B5 Ubuntu Archive Automatic Signing Key <ftpmaster@ubuntu.com>". Has something changed?
[17:34] <Dan-The-Man> pawan_tejwani, torrent
[17:35] <Dr_willis> pawan_tejwani,  best to use the torrents at this time
[17:35] <Monotoko> Trieste, that makes sense :) best to do a clean install
[17:35] <kuanox> have a problem with ubuntu 12, can update my 11.10 to 12  with skype =/
[17:35] <Trieste> Monotoko: so a clean install (I have a separate /home) is best, you say?
[17:35] <Trieste> Monotoko: alright :)
[17:35] <dimitris> Dan-The-Man it must be a kernel bug because it did the same also on backtrack !    anyway ! honestly thank you  for your time !
[17:35] <danel__> can or can't update 11.10 to 12 with skype
[17:35] <danel__> be more clear
[17:35] <danel__> you mean you can upgrade but skype is now uninstalled?
[17:35] <rymate1234> pawan_tejwani, use the torrent ;)
[17:35] <danel__> I didn't know 12 was anywhere past beta
[17:35] <pankaj> i cant download ubuntu 12.04.. what the heck is going on?
[17:35] <kuanox> cant
[17:36] <danel__> easiest thing re install skype
[17:36] <rymate1234> ok
[17:36] <danel__> oh you can't upgrade?
[17:36] <daadaa> anyone can help with installing fakeraid (raid 0) in 12.04? ubiquity won't install grub
[17:36] <danel__> well is 12 a full release yet?
[17:36] <Dan-The-Man> dimitris, yea anytime
[17:36] <pankaj> The requested URL /ubuntureleases//precise/ubuntu-12.04-desktop-i386.iso was not found on this server.
[17:36] <Dan-The-Man> danel__, yes
[17:36] <cousin_luigi> markss: Same here, it's a disgrace.
[17:36] <danel__> oh indeed didn't know 12 was a full release
[17:36] <Monotoko> pawan_tejwani, here: http://www.ubuntu.com/download/desktop/alternative-downloads
[17:36] <markss> cousin_luigi: Did something break on the servers then?
[17:36] <Monotoko> release was today... the Ubuntu servers will be being hammered
[17:36] <upset> Dr_Willis: Gack! Where is  Precise's checksum?
[17:37] <dimitris> Does anyone have some sugestions about too dark screen on laptop ???
[17:37] <danel__> usually when an upgrade distro comes out past beta mode a message pops up on my screen asking if I'd like to fully upgrade at this point
[17:37] <pawan_tejwani> Monotoko: Hey thanks for that :)
[17:37] <cousin_luigi> markss: Dunno, I'm back on my alternate installation.
[17:37] <Skaag> 12.04 is being released today?
[17:37] <markss> cousin_luigi: (or maybe the servers are just so overloaded they aren't communicating with my systems correctly maybe)
[17:37] <danel__> brb
[17:37] <acalbaza> wonders if my eclipse context menu problem is fixed in LTS.
[17:37] <upset> Monotoko: Download was pretty fast earlier, even though the front page was down
[17:37] <reaper> Just upgraded a Ubuntu to 12.04. Getting a "BADSIG 40976EAF437D05B5" when I update.
[17:37] <cousin_luigi> markss: they are indeed overloaded and slow, but signatures shouldn't fail
[17:37] <danel__> too dark of a screen depending on your type of lap top probably a button to raise screen brightness is available
[17:37] <Steevca> Seroiously,anyone?
[17:37] <Steevca> I need help wtih this. xD
[17:37] <STOP_HIGHLIGHTIN> :P
[17:37] <Monotoko> upset, I'm trying to download some stuff from the repo... the UK servers aren't doing anything very quickly :)
[17:37] <Dr_willis> upset,  no idea really. some file  has them all.. i use torrents so they normally check/verify the iso anyway
[17:37] <Skaag> The ubuntu servers are failing under the load. I suggest all you upgrades wait a bit. Maybe tomorrow.
[17:37] <pankaj> guys why cant i download this shT?
[17:38] <herrtodd> my upgrade install has crapped out during the download of dropbox (lots of other packages have already upgraded.) it's been sitting at 53% for 15 minutes. How should I proceed? From the terminal: http://pastebin.com/qPaapnA9
[17:38] <Dr_willis> pankaj,  server overload....
[17:38] <danel__> like with an old t.v., you can raise the screen brightness by pressing up on what for a t.v. was called picture
[17:38] <danel__> server over load?
[17:38] <danel__> what is the error
[17:38] <herrtodd> ctrl-c seems like a very scary solution.
[17:38] <dimitris> danel__ no i am not that noob :P !!! there must be something else :S
[17:38] <upset> Dr_Willis: Who is they? The original seeder?
[17:38] <Monotoko> pankaj, use the torrents: http://www.ubuntu.com/download/desktop/alternative-downloads
[17:38] <pankaj> Dr_willis,  what OMG
[17:38] <Dr_willis> upset,  theres some md5 file at the download site that has them all.
[17:38] <reaper> Change your repos to one in Sweden or someplace if you cant dl.
[17:39] <Dr_willis> pankaj,  what do you expect when 10000's of people are trying to download  from the same server. :)
[17:39] <openvoid_> !checksum
[17:39] <Dr_willis> pankaj,  happend every new release.
[17:39] <Jen> I'm just uploading ^_^
[17:39] <danel__> https://help.ubuntu.com/11.04/ubuntu-help/display-dimscreen.html
[17:39] <upset> Dr_Willis: Well, got a recommended torrent?
[17:39] <bencc> is it possible to preview open applications in the launcher similar to how it works in win7?
[17:39] <Dr_willis> !torrent
[17:39] <Dan-The-Man> while its bad, its also kind of awesome that the servers are overloaded :D
[17:39] <upset> openvoid_: Yo, I looked at that
[17:39] <danel__> click the icon at the very right of the panel and select system settings
[17:39] <john> If I have been running 12.04 Beta and installing upgrades regularly do I still need to "upgrade" to 12.04
[17:39] <danel__> in the hardware section, click power management
[17:39] <Dr_willis> someone has a url to the torrent i imagine. ;)
[17:39] <Dan-The-Man> ubuntu FTW!
[17:39] <upset> Dr_willis: I know what torrents are, dude.
[17:39] <pankaj> Dr_willis, why cant they upload on multiple servers?
[17:40] <Dr_willis> http://releases.ubuntu.com/precise/
[17:40] <danel__> don't know the answer is there an option to upgrade?
[17:40] <danel__> a beta is not a full release
[17:40] <Dr_willis> pankaj,  they do and the servers are all getting overloaded.
[17:40] <Monotoko> it is a full release
[17:40] <danel__> any to change screen bright ness
[17:40] <danel__> oh so you don't have the beta installed but the full release?
[17:40] <pankaj> Dr_willis, how many server do they have?
[17:40] <dimitris> danel full release
[17:40] <upset> Yay, I found the official one
[17:41] <danel__> anyway in power management you can adjust the brightness slider
[17:41] <Dr_willis> if you update/upgrade the beta today or recently - you should have the same setup as the released version
[17:41] <Bearnik> hi all
[17:41] <Monotoko> danel__, I just ran a quick dist-upgrade earlier
[17:41] <upset> Bearnik: Howdy
[17:41] <danel__> at least with the gnome interface you could but the interface for unity compiz plug in isn't too different
[17:41] <Dr_willis> md5 sum files are also at http://releases.ubuntu.com/precise/
[17:41] <danel__> ok you ran a quick dist upgrade?
[17:41] <danel__> and errors with skype?
[17:41] <danel__> try uninstalling skype
[17:41] <dimitris> danel__ and i have check out the power options and all settings from the menus
[17:41] <shazbotm1nasty> Hello. I'm looking for a distro to use as the OS for iCafe machines that are going to be in the waiting rooms in my mechanic shops
[17:41] <pankaj> Dr_willis, i am using 10.04 so i cant upgrade :(
[17:41] <danel__> ok does this not work for you?
[17:41] <ki4ro> Dr_willis: Thanks.  That's what I suspected
[17:41] <newtoarch> If I want to set up dm-crypt LUKS, is it possible to encrypt the swap using the alternate installer and still have the ability to sleep/hibernate?
[17:41] <shazbotm1nasty> I've tried ubuntu, slax, chromeOs (couldn't get it to work)
[17:41] <danel__> https://help.ubuntu.com/11.04/ubuntu-help/display-dimscreen.html
[17:42] <kuanox> this is the problem with me / error sithentication some packages skype-bin:i386 and skype:i386, but i have x64 bit
[17:42] <Monotoko> pankaj, why can't you upgrade?
[17:42] <shazbotm1nasty> I was hoping for something that is easily "freezable"
[17:42] <tec-joc> Hi ther
[17:42] <shazbotm1nasty> anyone know of some weird ubuntu offshoot that would work?
[17:42] <danel__> ok i386 is not the 64 bit versions
[17:42] <intrader> I have not been able to find out where does tomboy store files in 11.10. In 10.10 I could find a folder .tomboy (hidden)
[17:42] <reaper> Why do I have a bad signature after upgrading to 12.04. See it when I do a "apt-get update" etc
[17:42] <dragly2> Is suspending during an upgrade to 12.04 a bad idea?
[17:42] <upset> Dr_willis: Ooh, great. That's where they are.
[17:42] <Dr_willis> pankaj,   I thought you could do a LTS to LTS upgrade.. but i rarely upgrade. i do clean installs..
[17:42] <pankaj> Monotoko, there is no such option of upgradation  .. there is ony one update option
[17:43] <reaper> GPG error: http://archive.canonical.com precise Release: The following signatures were invalid: BADSIG 40976EAF437D05B5 Ubuntu Archive Automatic Signing Key <ftpmaster@ubuntu.com>
[17:43] <cousin_luigi> same for everyone
[17:43] <Flannel> dragly2: during the download portion -- doesn't matter, during the actual installation portion -- I wouldnt try it.
[17:43] <tec-joc> How can I do for obtain ubuntu 11.10 LTS servers?
[17:43] <Monotoko> pankaj, you should be able to do the upgrade... it just hasn't reached your mirror yet
[17:43] <cousin_luigi> precise pangoling is a gigantic fail so far
[17:43] <eutheria> welcome to server download overload!
[17:43] <reaper> cousin_luigi have the same signature error?
[17:43] <naerok|out> hello can someone provide the md5sum for 64bit 12.04 iso file?
[17:43] <Pici> pankaj: you'll need to use do-release-upgrade -d to upgrade to 12.04 from 10.04.
[17:43] <dragly2> Flannel: Thanks. I guess I'll try to disable suspend on laptop lid close before I pack down my laptop then.
[17:43] <Monotoko> Pici got it! I was looking for that command :)
[17:44] <Dr_willis> http://releases.ubuntu.com/precise/MD5SUMS <--- the md5sum file
[17:44] <Bearnik> yeahoo, I got 38Kb/sec now download from official XD
[17:44] <upset> Dr_willis: Oh, well now I feel like an idiot. They have the md5 checksums in the stupid iso.
[17:44] <naerok|out> Dr_willis: thank you
[17:44] <markss> reaper: i have a BAGSIG error in two ubuntu 10.04/lucid boxes that looks the same as your error. Happened this morning.
[17:44] <cousin_luigi> reaper: yes
[17:44] <newtoarch> If I want to set up dm-crypt LUKS, is it possible to encrypt the swap using the alternate installer and still have the ability to sleep/hibernate?
[17:44] <Dr_willis> upset,  those verify each file.. not the iso. i belive.
[17:44] <markss> newtoarch: yes
[17:44] <dimitris> danel__ i have already try them
[17:44] <pankaj> Pici, is it ok to upgrade.. means os wont break.. ?
[17:44] <rodd> reaper, getting the same error here
[17:44] <Dr_willis> upset,  i thought the cd had some verify option. :)
[17:44] <upset> Dr_willis: Oh. Okay. Well, at least I found it online.
[17:44] <alien64> screw the upgrade think ill wait
[17:44] <danel__> ok I think this is what you were looking for
[17:44] <Pici> pankaj: there is always a risk of breakage. You should make sure you have backups before doing any upgrades.
[17:44] <WoosterB2> I'm @ "Who are you?" in the installer and no matter what I enter or do I cannot get the 'Continue" button to light up \ activate anything.  Using either mouse or keyboard.
[17:44] <danel__> http://parijatmishra.wordpress.com/2008/07/28/ubuntu-bad-signature-problems-prevent-apt-get-update-from-working/
[17:44] <Bearnik> after an hour, hopefully , I will try to install it om my vm
[17:45] <markss> newtoarch: I don't know if the alt installer will set that up for you automatically, but you can do it. There are internet guides to help get it all encrypted
[17:45] <upset> Dr_willis: It does, that's why I'm here in the first place
[17:45] <bobweaver> is it true that nothing has been updated sense 2012-Apr-25 12:07:54  on amd64 iso
[17:45] <danel__> ubuntu bad signature problems prevent apt-get update from working
[17:45] <pankaj> Pici, no i dont want to take risk
[17:45] <danel__> sudo apt-get update
[17:45] <newtoarch> markss: Because I did that on vbox, and now I have no option to suspend/hibernate.
[17:45] <TheBigRedOne> why is the 64bit image called AMD64? Does it work with Intel CPUs?
[17:45] <upset> Dr_willis: Oh, but only the alternative ones
[17:45] <danel__> w: a error occurred during the signature verification
[17:45] <tec-joc> I  need ubuntu 11.10 server, but on the web site not there
[17:45] <upset> Dr_willis: I don't think the others check
[17:45] <ogra_> TheBigRedOne, yes
[17:45] <newtoarch> markss: Oh I see I think I will have to follow the guides then.
[17:45] <Monotoko> TheBigRedOne, yes it works with intel
[17:45] <dragly2> Where is the setting to disable suspend when closing laptop lid in Ubuntu 11.10 -- I can't find it
[17:45] <Dr_willis> TheBigRedOne,  historical reasons... it does work on intel
[17:45] <TheBigRedOne> Thanks all :)
[17:45] <rodd> I have tried apt-everything and still am getting the error msg
[17:45] <markss> TheBigRedOne: amd64 will work on 64-bit intel cpus yes
[17:45] <danel__> the repository is not updated and the previous uinex files will be used gpg error etc. etc.etc.
[17:45] <fsgxdroid> TheBigRedOne: yes, it will, http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/X86-64
[17:45] <danel__> well let's take it slowly
[17:46] <danel__> now try this
[17:46] <bobweaver> or is this behind ? http://mirrors.rit.edu/ubuntu-releases/12.04/
[17:46] <danel__> log in as super user
[17:46] <danel__> sudo su
[17:46] <danel__> now type
[17:46] <FloodBot1> danel__: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[17:46] <Dr_willis> and normally you dont want to use 'sudo su'
[17:46] <danel__> floodbot 1 huh? didn't know I was flooding
[17:46] <Dr_willis> ;)
[17:46] <colon_D> bazhang: FYI, I found the culprit here: http://changelogs.ubuntu.com/meta-release and http://changelogs.ubuntu.com/meta-release-lts  -- the LTS file hasn't been updated yet to show precise
[17:46] <danel__> don't use sudo su?
[17:46] <danel__> what is wrong with being root?
[17:46] <Dr_willis> use sudo -i
[17:47] <upset> danel__: It is better to write a longer set of instructions or pastebin it
[17:47] <bobweaver> Dr_willis, +1 with sudo -i
[17:47] <Dr_willis> sudo su - can cause issues.
[17:47] <rodd> such as?
[17:47] <Dr_willis> plus its redundant
[17:47] <danel__> sudo -i doesn't cause issues?
[17:47] <dforthman> Hi. I installed 12.04 and whenever I use my PCI-E graphics card, I get a flashing screen. It works fine on the built-in graphics adapter. PCI-E card is EVGA GTX 550 Ti.
[17:47] <danel__> weird I've been using sudo su for years
[17:47] <upset> danel__: It is flooding if you post without being concise
[17:47] <bobweaver> man sudo too find out what the difference is
[17:47] <upset> danel__ really? Ew.
[17:47] <danel__> anyway back to the problem of the bad signature when upgrading
[17:47] <pankaj> i am just curious. i just want know how can i check the number of hits on the sites . means how many people are downloading it right now?
[17:47] <rodd> tldr;
[17:47] <WoosterB2> I should add that I can go back to the previous installer step and then proceed again to "Who are you?"  Machine isn't hung etc.  Button just refuses to work.  Seems to be the only problem.  Am I alone in experiencing this?
[17:47] <L3top> sudo su is not desirable. It does not carry over several env variables, as well as several other behaviors which CAN cause problems. sudo -i or -s is a better idea in general.
[17:47] <Dr_willis> rodd,  theres some site you can find if you google for 'root shell ubuntu the right way' that gives details
[17:47] <Bearnik> @ tec-joc : http://releases.ubuntu.com/11.10/
[17:47] <danel__> hard to post and be concise with so much CONVERSATION IN THE ROOM!
[17:48] <danel__> Just give me a second I haven't finished what I'm saying
[17:48] <upset> danel__: Hard to address someone when you don't address theme
[17:48] <rodd> danel__, type everything in a sentenc
[17:48] <upset> *them
[17:48] <tec-joc> Bearnik: thanks
[17:48] <Monotoko> danel__, it's release day... just put it in a pastebin
[17:48] <danel__> ok
[17:48] <Bearnik> tec-joc: np :) cheerz
[17:48] <L3top> The less concise you are the more conversation is in the room. That is the point of not breaking up your thoughts over several lines.
[17:48] <ogra_> danel__, sudo su preserves your environment, so if you run something using caches it will write as root into your users .cache etc etc ... sudo -i fires upa fresh shell with environment of the root user
[17:49] <Monotoko> especially today of all days
[17:49] <upset> danel__: Look man, this is a support channel. People grab a smart buddy and talk to them extensively about a problem. We're not all reading everyone else's conversation
[17:49] <ghabit> one more question - is there some difference between ubuntu updated to 12.04 and fresh install of 12.04?
[17:49] <reaper> markss cousin_luigi Good to know. Not like I trust the Ubuntu repos with all the blobs in the kernel, just feels better know I'm not the only one get boned.
[17:49] <danel__> ogra!: indeed I rarely write to the cache when in sudo su mode
[17:49] <ntadej_> Hi, anybody having problems with software-properties-kde and apport together with python-sip?
[17:49] <kuanox> hehehehehhe start the update to 12.04 =]
[17:49] <Monotoko> ghabit, not at the core... it's a bit of an open ended question
[17:49] <danel__> ogra: didn't realize this, so sudo -i is better?
[17:49] <dforthman> Hi. I installed 12.04 and whenever I use my PCI-E graphics card, I get a flashing purple screen. I am able to boot in to 12.04 with no problems using the onboard graphics. PCI-E card is EVGA GTX 550 Ti. Anyone else having this issue?
[17:50] <ogra_> danel__, right, but someone you suggest sudo su to might run an X app or whatnot under that
[17:50] <ogra_> danel__, yeah, sudo -i is like a fresh login
[17:50] <ogra_> (as root)
[17:50] <danel__> ogra: ok so sudo su if you need to write to the cache, sudo -i to be safe
[17:50] <danel__> ogra: indeed
[17:50] <Monotoko> danel__, no
[17:50] <danel__> ogra_ like this?
[17:50] <herrtodd> re: my earlier dropbox problem, i'm following the instructions here: https://answers.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/update-manager/+question/175160
[17:51] <Monotoko> danel__, you don't want to write to your own cache as root at all under any circumstances
[17:51] <ogra_> danel__, just suggest sudo -i
[17:51] <pankaj> dforthman, how can one resolve your issue right now?
[17:51] <ghabit> Monotoko, sorry, cannot understand it.
[17:51] <intrader> All, where does tomboy store its files in unity - ubuntu 11.10
[17:51] <Dr_willis> danel__,  i think theres never a need for 'sudo su'
[17:51] <ghabit> Just installed ubuntu - I'm looking for good and easy-to-use DLNA server (for TV connectiong) based on GUI or at least with good front-end. Thanks!
[17:51] <belgianguy> btw when installing libc my install halted
[17:51] <belgianguy> it was only when I expanded details
[17:51] <belgianguy> that I saw it was waiting for input
[17:52] <danel__> Dr_willis: ok well I didn't write the os
[17:52] <dforthman> pankaj, I've tried searching for a resolution, but have not been successful. Are there known issues with nVidia cards in 12.04?
[17:52] <belgianguy> about rsync with cups and mysql etc
[17:52] <belgianguy> not very clear
[17:52] <Monotoko> ghabit, the only differences between upgrading and installing anew is that when you upgrade, everything including your packages is preserved... but it can go wrong because of packages colliding
[17:52] <danel__> Dr_Willis: I'll try and use sudo -l from now on been recommended sudo su by a billion people now is the only reason I use it
[17:52] <moah> congratulations, #ubuntu on 12.04. I bought a new laptop just to install 12.04 on it, and everything works unbelieveably flawlessly. if anyone is here who worked on it, thanks very much.
[17:53] <upset> danel__: Yeah, but it's your responsibility to not throw around sudo su like it's a great idea
[17:53] <markss> moah: Great :)
[17:53] <cousin_luigi> moah: do updates work as well?
[17:53] <SafariMonkey> I would like to ask about installation. Can anyone provide a valid reason why there could not be n option implemented whereby any packages which throw up dialog boxes would be stopped/frozen/ignored and install the next package untill all dialog-less packages have been installed?  Am I unaware of such an option?
[17:53] <danel__> upset: roger then
[17:53] <upset> danel__: Ok
[17:53] <danel__> upset_: like this you write it?
[17:54] <pankaj> dforthman, i dont know that ..may be some other guy will help u out
[17:54] <upset> danel__: Huh?
[17:54] <Dr_willis> danel__,  if a billion peopel are wrong because they have learned a bad habbit.. its still bad...
[17:54] <moah> cousin_luigi: i dont know, i didnt update, its a flawless fresh install.
[17:54] <pankaj> dforthman, i am still waiting for my 12.04 to download
[17:54] <upset> danel__: Blame other distros. Or gentoo users. Let's blame gentoo users.
[17:54] <L3top> danel__: sudo -i not -l. lol upset
[17:54] <Flannel> danel__: That's a lowercase I not a lowercase L
[17:54] <dzocrnanula> is it wise to install amd64 system on laptop with intel p6200 processor?
[17:54] <GirlyGirl> SafariMonkey: That made no sense
[17:55] <intrader> cousin_luigi, when I upgraded to 9.04 to 10.10, I experienced many problems - I had to install.
[17:55] <dforthman> pankaj, Good luck to you. I hope your installation goes flawlessly :D
[17:55] <cousin_luigi> moah: could you try an update?
[17:55] <danel__> Dr_willis: indeed, look, I write some c and c++ code, not constantly full time. For me addressing the kernel, and not being a normal user, would in any situation I need to use sudo su instead of sudo -i or do you never ever want to write directly to the cache in terminal prompt mode?
[17:55] <Monotoko> dzocrnanula, AMD64 is the naming standard for 64bit - it's historical
[17:55] <Monotoko> it will work on any 64 bit processor
[17:55] <wylde> !backup ........just sayin' :)
[17:55] <SafariMonkey> GirlyGirl, I mean just to put dialogs aside in *update (sorry) and continue updating.
[17:55] <upset> ubottu: But you ARE intelligent
[17:56] <SafariMonkey> I'm not a great writer
[17:56] <upset> ubottu: I love you, ubottu
[17:56] <ogra_> danel__, the cache was only an example ... if you fire up thunderbird your mildir would be owned by root after you close TB
[17:56] <upset> So cold ;_;
[17:56] <danel__> Anyway room, I got to be out: here is a pastebin of the most likely solution to the bad signature at apt-get update or apt-get upgrade when it fails: http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/947812/
[17:56] <danel__> ogra:ok
[17:56] <danel__> anyway once again:
[17:56] <danel__> http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/947812/
[17:56] <danel__> later
[17:56] <FloodBot1> danel__: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[17:56] <dzocrnanula> Monotoko: and ubuntu 64 is good as 386?
[17:56] <upset> lol
[17:57] <dk-ta> Transmission n'arrête pas de me signaler des parties corrompues.... j'espère que je ne les seede pas....?
[17:57] <Monotoko> dzocrnanula, in terms of stability? Yeah it's been mainline for years
[17:57] <Fat-Thing> http://paste.ubuntu.com/947814/ <---- can someone explain why i got this FOUND upon scanning rkhunter? i just don't understand what it means :'(
[17:57] <upset> danel__: Again, you are not talking to the room. You ask your question, someone grabs you, and you talk to them. We will not all work to solve your issue, only one or two volunteer to help
[17:57] <wylde> !fr | dk-ta
[17:57] <dforthman> Hi. I installed 12.04 (64-bit) and whenever I use my PCI-E graphics card, I get a flashing purple screen. I am able to boot in to 12.04 with no problems using the onboard graphics. PCI-E card is EVGA GTX 550 Ti. Anyone else having this issue?
[17:57] <dzocrnanula> Monotoko: Yes, in terms of stability. Than you.
[17:57] <convict> I just installed ubuntu last night, woke up this morning and rebooted. At boot it gets a message 'error: couldn't load file'. Dont really know what file it's talking about. No kernel was upgraded from what I can see unless ubuntu doesn't keep old kernels in grub, already ran fsck on boot partition everything looks fine
[17:58] <ogra_> upset, i think he is gone
[17:58] <upset> ogra_: Feh, okay.
[17:58] <convict> unless it's a problem with LVM?
[17:58] <SafariMonkey> does anyone here know what I mean?
[17:58] <Monotoko> Fat-Thing, don't worry about that... it's just updating it's records because those hidden files weren't there last time
[17:58] <fsgxdroid> i have SSD and i'm planning 12.04 install, should i go with brtfs or ext4?
[17:58] <Monotoko> as long as no rootkits were found you're okay :)
[17:59] <intrader> All, where does tomboy store its files in unity - ubuntu 11.10. I need to restore my tomboy notes from backup.
[18:00] <ogra_> SafariMonkey, i think i do, its not possible to cache all dislogs and ask the questions in the end because soemtimes a package needs to be configured before another one gets installed
[18:00] <ki4ro> is there a separate channel here for 12.04 upgrade?
[18:00] <stefg> Fat-Thing: everything alright... no need to worry. the warnings have plausible causes...
[18:00] <Monotoko> ki4ro, no sorry... what's the problem though and we'll give it a shot :P
[18:00] <convict> ideas anyone?
[18:01] <samster34> hi, my launcher bar thingy in ubuntu 12.04 suddenly turned bright purple, I have no clue why :/
[18:01] <intrader> where does tomboy store its files in unity - ubuntu 11.10. I need to restore my tomboy notes from backup. In the backup I find a .tomboy folder with all the notes and subfolders
[18:01] <Monotoko> convict, can you boot into single user mode? (Recovery)
[18:01] <nitzs> samster34: because you changed the wallpaper?
[18:01] <nosbor> the servers must be getting a hammering, i've just had a upgrade install to 12.04 fail for the 3rd time !
[18:01] <convict> Monotoko, nope
[18:01] <upset> convict: Where are you seeing this?
[18:01] <BadCodSmell> When installing ubuntu in expert mode, how do I partition? As in something like cfdisk? IT wont let me do anything to the partitions that it auto generates or that are already there
[18:01] <convict> upset, after I select the kernel in grub. in your fancy bootloader :P
[18:01] <Monotoko> convict, sounds like grub has borked
[18:01] <rodd> guess today isnt the best day to upgrade ubuntu
[18:02] <ki4ro> Monotoko: No problem just wondering if I have kept up with my upgrades under Beta do I need to upgrade to the new 12.04
[18:02] <Monotoko> you need a live CD and then in the terminal do a "sudo grub-install"
[18:02] <nitzs> BadCodSmell: you'll need to write the partition table after you make changes.
[18:02] <amanATdesk> Hi
[18:02] <upset> convict: I agree with Monotoko. Grab the alternative iso, put it on a usb, and run checks
[18:02] <nitzs> and then format it as ext4
[18:02] <Monotoko> ki4ro, just a "sudo apt-get dist-upgrade" should do the trick
[18:02] <upset> convict: I think that's the easiest way to figure it out
[18:03] <ki4ro> Monotoko: thanks!
[18:03] <BadCodSmell> nitzs: I don't have thoise options, I just have weirdness such as guided partition that insists on using all of the space
[18:03] <Monotoko> ki4ro, no problem... it might be best to hold off for tonight though, the servers are getting hammered
[18:03] <ManuelSantana> Hello
[18:03] <upset> Hello!
[18:03] <B|tchX> And they're off!
[18:03] <pankaj> mods plz include this link http://mirrors.rit.edu/ubuntu-releases/12.04/  as well into the topic.
[18:03] <amanATdesk> I'm upgrading from 11.10 to 12.04 and it's going insanely slowly - transfer rates of 52.7 kB/s - at the moment I'm still "getting new packages", is it too late to cancel? would I be better off waiting a few hours and trying again once the initial rush is over?
[18:04] <fsgxdroid> btrfs or ext4 - which one you would choose for SSD drive in 12.04 installation?
[18:04] <samster34> I don't think it's the wallpaper.... http://dl.dropbox.com/u/21007284/purple.png
[18:04] <ManuelSantana> upset, is this the official ubuntu irc channel?
[18:04] <upset> amanATdesk: Dude, just wait until tonight or tomorrow
[18:04] <BadCodSmell> ah dont worry I figured it out, the interface just isnt very intuitive compared to traditional tools such as windows fdisk
[18:04] <intrader> I used tomboy notes heavily in 10.10. Now I need to know where does tomboy store its files in unity - ubuntu 11.10. I need to restore my tomboy notes from backup. In the backup I find a .tomboy folder with all the notes and subfolders
[18:04] <upset> ManuelSantana: Yep
[18:04] <Monotoko> amanATdesk, if it's just getting the packages it isn't too late to cancel
[18:04] <viecorn> hai hai
[18:04] <krababbel> amanATdesk: cancel it, no problem during download
[18:04] <upset> intrader: Then you should be good, right?
[18:05] <Monotoko> viecorn, hey
[18:05]  * B|tchX backing up hard drive in case she gets too happy
[18:05] <ManuelSantana> is it on freenode network or is it standalone network from ubuntu?
[18:05] <pankaj> amanATdesk, haan wait
[18:05] <Zermann> Hi, where can i fill a bug?
[18:05] <L3top> amanATdesk: If it takes a long time, or you wait a long time... what exactly is the difference? The ability to reboot?
[18:05] <ManuelSantana> is it on freenode network or is it standalone network from ubuntu? upset
[18:05] <amanATdesk> hmm, I think it heard you guys - the transfer rate's shot up to 108 kB/s
[18:05] <SafariMonkey> ogra_, thanks for the reply. I am just frustrated because it stopped on a dialog near the start and I had been expecting it to be finished when I got back. Nope, many hours left. :/  I wonder if dependent packages could be stalled also? not perfect, but it would mean something would be done by the time I got back.
[18:05] <Monotoko> ManuelSantana, we're in freenode
[18:05] <nitzs> BadCodSmell: http://www.psychocats.net/ubuntu/minimal
[18:05] <upset> intrader: It should be in the same place. If you don't know where, just write some new notes and look for the file it creates so you can replace it
[18:05] <samster34> anyone have a clue why my launcher bar would turn purple? http://dl.dropbox.com/u/21007284/purple.png
[18:06] <upset> samster34: For fun
[18:06] <ogra_> SafariMonkey, you could file a whishlist bug on launchpad ... not sure thats solvable easily though
[18:06] <WoosterB2> I don't know why it would, but I quite like it
[18:06] <samster34> upset: I'm amused. it can stop now though :/
[18:06] <upset> samster34: Woah, that is extremely weird
[18:06] <amanATdesk> L3top, it's taking an inordinately long time to download the software, so I can't see it installing before the night is out. I upgraded another Ubuntu to 12.04 beta, two days ago, and that only took 2hrs
[18:06] <upset> samster34: One of those unity tweaking tools can do the trick
[18:06] <Monotoko> samster34, MyUnity should be able to fix it (I think)
[18:07] <samster34> upset: it's running in a VM in virtualbox, could it be a video driver thingy...?
[18:07] <amanATdesk> I'm just looking to get back to using this machine again
[18:07] <h2p> Has anyone here ever done stuff with VOIP?  I am a computer science student looking for an internship, and got contacted by a company that says they are a VOIP company that makes configurations for phones, uses spreadsheets and visio to make designs, and talks to customers sets up phone systems forthem. Is this a good internship for a CS student or is it a waste of time?
[18:07] <upset> samster34: Nah, probably not
[18:07] <SafariMonkey> ogra_, not easily, but it would really improve update experience. Would you agree, or is it too minor?
[18:07] <L3top> amanATdesk: It was released a few hours ago. you can expect some high volume... and why cant you use your machine while it is upgrading?
[18:07] <upset> samster34: But it's not a big detail, and in a VM you shouldn't be surprised
[18:07] <ogra_> SafariMonkey, i surely would agree
[18:08] <samster34> Monotoko: thanks I'll check that out
[18:08] <pankaj> h2p, lol
[18:08] <Hieberrr> Is there any way to permanently change the Unity launcher colour? Every time I change it with MyUnity, it never takes and changes colour by itself to match my wallpaper.
[18:08] <amanATdesk> L3top, I'm trying to give it my full bandwidth, not using the internet heavily at all.
[18:08] <upset> Hieberrr: Sounds like a bug. Google it, see if it's happening to anyone else
[18:08] <L3top> amanATdesk: you are not the choke. The rest of the world trying to get the same thing would be the load.
[18:09] <SafariMonkey> ogra_, now, as I don't reallly know aboyt bug reporting on here (some reason) could you direct me to the appropriate place for such things as this?
[18:09] <upset> Hieberrr: Also contribute to the bug report or create one if it doesn't exist
[18:09] <Monotoko> amanATdesk, it's not your bandwidth... it's the fact the servers are getting hammered
[18:09] <SafariMonkey> *about
[18:09] <Hieberrr> thanks guys, ill send a report now
[18:09] <L3top> amanATdesk: Use the internet as much as you want, you are not likely to impact the dl speed.
[18:09] <Monotoko> amanATdesk, it will stabilise by tomorrow
[18:09] <limpc> anyone here use sshfs?
[18:09] <limpc> having trouble establishing an sshfs map after upgrading to ubuntu 12.04
[18:09] <limpc> shows owner as ??? ???
[18:10] <limpc> i am using uid=1000,gid=1000 (which are correct)
[18:10] <ogra_> SafariMonkey, use "ubuntu-bug" from a terminal
[18:10] <satch5150> i'm fairly certain I'm having hardware issues but not sure where to ask this question so here goes - My computer seems to lock up with my soundcard in it, which is an x-fi elite pro pci (not pcie) card, my mobo is an asus sabertooth with uefi bios and my cpu is an zambezi am3+ ..... im using xubuntu 12.04 bets 2 (ok, yea, I didnt think of it before asking but that could be the problem), but assuming the beta is not the prob, what could
[18:10] <satch5150>  it be ?
[18:10] <upset> limpc: Be concise, it is more clear to us that way
[18:10] <RobinJ1995> I know it can take a while to resize a partition, but it's been working for 2 hours now, and I don't see any progress yet
[18:10] <L3top> Its a few hours... and again... if you are willing to wait till tomorrow, what does the amount of time it takes matter?
[18:10] <amanATdesk> L3top, Monotoko - I don't think I explained myself too clearly, I wanted to let it download at fullspeed - but it isn't, which is why I'm here ...
[18:10] <samster34> Monotoko: thanks, that worked.
[18:10] <RobinJ1995> Normal?
[18:10] <Monotoko> limpc, you might be best asking in #ubuntu-server
[18:10] <upset> satch5150: Go to the xubuntu channel
[18:10] <SafariMonkey> ogra_, other?
[18:10] <satch5150> ook, thanks
[18:10] <L3top> amanATdesk: again... it was released a few hours ago. There is likely to be a heavy strain on the servers because everyone wants it now.
[18:11] <Monotoko> amanATdesk, you explained yourself okay... the fact is that the ubuntu servers will only give you a speed of 50kb or less at the moment
[18:11] <upset> satch5150: I don't even think canonical maintains their channel anymore
[18:11] <amanATdesk> Anyway, I will cancel and upgrade tomorrow
[18:11] <ogra_> SafariMonkey, https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/update-manager/
[18:11] <upset> satch5150: They're kind of a separate deal now
[18:11] <SafariMonkey> ogra_, I mean what category
[18:11] <Pici> upset: Canonical doesn't "maintain" any of these channels. This is all volunteer support.
[18:11]  * L3top does not understand "I am so impatient, I have to wait longer" but.. meh.
[18:11] <smulcahy> hi, ubuntu 12.04 tells me my printer is out of toner but windows tells me its fine. So does the printers web interface.
[18:11] <smulcahy> Is this a problem anyone else is having?
[18:11] <satch5150> upset: ok, I will, but as I said, I think its really hardware, im just wondering specifically what though
[18:11] <upset> Pici: Well, yeah. But they set up the bots and own the channel
[18:12] <upset> Pici: Or am I wrong?
[18:12] <ogra_> SafariMonkey, oh, no idea other is probably ok
[18:12] <RobinJ1995> I know it can take a while to resize a partition, but it's been working for 2 hours now, and I don't see any progress yet... Normal?
[18:12] <wylde> SafariMonkey: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation/UnattendedCD <-- there's one way to do it. Sems a bit old but should work.
[18:12] <Pici> upset: No, us volunteers do that.
[18:12] <Hieberrr> I guess the "chameleon" thing isn't really a bug
[18:12] <Hieberrr> but a feature
[18:12] <upset> Pici: Oh, wow. I did not know
[18:12] <wylde> Seems*
[18:12] <Hieberrr> :(
[18:12] <SafariMonkey> it says i need to specify a package
[18:12] <upset> satch5150: Sorry buddy, I am evidentally full of it
[18:12] <ogra_> SafariMonkey, update-manager or even apt
[18:13] <ogra_> SafariMonkey, it will be sorted to the right package by a bug triager, dont worry about it to much
[18:13] <upset> satch5150: You should still go to their channel though. Even if it's a hardware issue, I think they'll be better equipped to help you out
[18:13] <gord_> how do I get an install image of 12.04 onto a USB stick and then install it? Unetbootin - fails to boot with "missing operating system". i don;t have windows or ubuntu already, and no machines at any of our sites have optical drives
[18:13] <upset> satch5150: Specially since we're kind of being flooded in this channel
[18:13] <satch5150> upset: yea, I did, awaiting a response from them :)
[18:13] <upset> gord_: What os are you using?
[18:14] <Jen> BOOBILICIOUS_BOO: sure you want to stick with that nick?
[18:14] <llutz> gord_: "cat 1204.iso >/dev/sdX "  where sdX is your usb-stick
[18:14] <upset> satch5150: I'm sorry. :\ Maybe forums?
[18:14] <gord_> FreeBSD, Debians, etc
[18:14] <openvoid_> RobinJ1995, you can estimate time to move partition by multiplying size of date being moved by about 15mb/sec (typical speed)
[18:14] <BOOBILICIOUS_BOO> Jen, yes
[18:14] <intrader> I used tomboy notes heavily in 10.10.  I need to restore my tomboy notes from a 10.10 backup. In the backup I find a .tomboy folder with all the notes and subfolders
[18:14] <upset> gord_: Tag me
[18:14] <RobinJ1995> openvoid, the point is, it isn't MOVING anything
[18:14] <gord_> llutz: ah ok thanks, haven't tried catting it yet
[18:14] <RobinJ1995> openvoid, just shrinking
[18:14] <upset> gord_: Nvm
[18:15] <llutz> gord_: "dd" also would do
[18:15] <upset> BOOBILICIOUS_BOO: God help us
[18:15] <[Toto]> hello
[18:15] <upset> gord_: I like dd. dd if=blah.iso of=usblocation is a great one
[18:15] <[Toto]> anyone know this error ?
[18:15] <[Toto]> ../include/Network.h:772:26: error: ISO C++ prohíbe la declaración de ‘type name’ sin tipo [-fpermissive]
[18:16] <upset> Toto: Where are you reading this?
[18:16] <RobinJ1995> openvoid, starting to get anxious for my data here.... ntfsresize is taking up 0% of CPU and RAM
[18:16] <[Toto]> well
[18:16] <[Toto]> en my console
[18:16] <[Toto]> gmake error
[18:17] <gord_> llutz: upset: I thought there'd be some instructions somewhere for non-Ubuntu USB-ing, but none exist. I got very confused lol. Many thanks both
[18:17] <CharlieSu> Is it possible to create a Bootable USB disk w/ Ubuntu on it that is compatible with a MacBookPro?  If so could anyone point me to documentation on this?
[18:17] <L3top> What are you trying to compile [Toto]
[18:17] <[Toto]> gnuworld
[18:17] <mystblade9> I remember Wubi being inherently buggy with earlier versions of Ubuntu. Is it a viable option now? Does everything work as it's supposed to, including software and driver installation?
[18:17] <Monotoko> [Toto], why are you using gmake? Just use make
[18:18] <[Toto]> Monotoko,  : same error
[18:18] <[Toto]> make or gmake
[18:18] <upset> [Toto]: Woah. I can't help you. L3top is smart, he probably can, or maybe go to the spanish ubuntu irc
[18:18] <Monotoko> [Toto], what's the rror?
[18:18] <scientes> what happened to release party?
[18:18] <scientes> i thought that was a thing? when was that dropped?
[18:18] <RobinJ1995> openvoid, still there...?
[18:18] <scientes> like when you tried to you #ubuntu+1
[18:18] <upset> scientes: What?
[18:18] <smulcahy> is forcing a purge of all printing related packages worth a shot?
[18:18] <openvoid_> [Toto], sudo apt-get install build-essential, then use make
[18:18] <upset> scientes: So many support requests... there isn't really room for a party except in ubuntu offtopic
[18:18] <Monotoko> scientes, the individual local teams organize those
[18:19] <smulcahy> assuming something has bad state
[18:19] <BOOBILICIOUS_BOO> upset, God is on Vacation, cant help u
[18:19] <[Toto]> openvoid,  : i already installed
[18:19] <upset> lulz
[18:19] <mystblade9> I remember Wubi being inherently buggy with earlier versions of Ubuntu. Is it a viable option now? Does everything work as it's supposed to, including software and driver installation?
[18:19] <RobinJ1995> openvoid_, still there...?
[18:19] <syrinx_priest> Anyone know how to Enable the new login sound?  Running 12.04 in a Vbox and it's not there.  I went to add it to startup apps but I'm not sure what the command is.
[18:19] <ogra_> scientes, you mean the channel ?
[18:19] <[Toto]> and all updates
 scientes: So many support requests... there isn't really room for a party except in ubuntu offtopic
[18:19] <upset> BOOBILICIOUS_BOO: Probably at an upgrade party somewhere
[18:19] <openvoid_> yes, RobinJ1995
[18:19] <scientes> ogra_, yeah #ubuntu+1 use to redirect one day before
[18:19] <ogra_> scientes, #ubuntu-release-party has 180+ people in it
[18:20] <L3top> CharlieSu: I believe you can use unetbootin and the mac version of the ubuntu iso (so declared in daily build list)
[18:20] <samster34> the software center crashes all the time for me :/
[18:20] <BOOBILICIOUS_BOO> *dancing*
[18:20] <RobinJ1995> openvoid, it's only shrinking /dev/sda1, not moving any data. nytfsresize is taking up 0% of RAM and CPU :/
[18:20] <ProfessorBacon> my windows 95 install stopped at disk 14: help
[18:20] <samster34> at least, it says it crashed, but doesnt
[18:20] <syrinx_priest> lol
[18:20] <[Toto]> make[1]: *** [libgnuworldcore_la-Channel.lo] Error 1
[18:20] <[Toto]> make[1]: se sale del directorio «/home/gnuworld/gnuworld/src»
[18:20] <[Toto]> make: *** [all-recursive] Error 1
[18:20] <RobinJ1995> openvoid_, it's only shrinking /dev/sda1, not moving any data. nytfsresize is taking up 0% of RAM and CPU :/ (why the underscore behind your name?)
[18:21] <syrinx_priest> Could someone whose login sound DOES work copy and past the command from their Startup Application menu?
[18:21] <BOOBILICIOUS_BOO> i am getting 60kbps while downloading it from alternate server :(
[18:21] <yellabs-r2> good day you all
[18:21] <L3top> !es | [Toto]
[18:21] <upset> I'm outtie, gonna go clean install Pangolin like a bosss
[18:22] <yellabs-r2> is there some software with wich i can see the powerconsumption of my pc ?
[18:22] <[Toto]> L3top,  : i m there too
[18:22] <natman> hey, i am running ubuntu 12.04 live, from usb stick - it runs quiet well. when i go for full install to HDD will it be much slower? ( the pc is old'ish, 1,6ghz centrino dual core, 2gb ram, tiny nvidia card )
[18:22] <upset> Thanks for the help the other day, L3top
[18:22] <RylandAlmanza> Hi, I'm trying to make it so the grub menu only shows if I hold shift. I've looked through various answers on google, and nothing has worked. Currently, when I press shift, it says "grub loading" and then boots the os before it shows the menu. Anyone know how to fix this?
[18:22] <upset> Bye
[18:22] <L3top> np upset... see ya
[18:22] <openvoid_> RobinJ1995, dunno if it stalled or not but with your 2 tb hdd it can take really long time, shrinking by half may take up to 6 hours, i think. and its unsafe to cancel, uoy can loss data
[18:23] <L3top> Did you install build-essential yet [Toto]?
[18:23] <TheBigRedOne> meh still cant create Live USBs that work on my laptop...
[18:23] <[Toto]> yes
[18:23] <[Toto]> of course
[18:23] <Monotoko> L3top, he already has it... it's erroring out in the make
[18:23] <RobinJ1995> openvoid_, is it normal that the progressbar in gparted just keeps going left and right, in stead of actually indicating a progress?  i'm really getting anxiopus for my data here... and i don"'t have 6 hours >.> the usb drive i'm running it from probably wont survive that long either >.<
[18:23] <Monotoko> [Toto], and you've done the ./configure ?
[18:23] <yellabs-r2> cloning an 500 Gig drive took 8 hours , so do the math
[18:23] <belgianguy> any opinions on the Oracle v Google lawsuit here?
[18:23] <Monotoko> RobinJ, yes that's normal
[18:24] <Monotoko> you'll just have to leave it
[18:24] <L3top> doh... duh.
[18:24] <john38> Hello does the precise 32 bit version support 8GB Ram?
[18:24] <RobinJ1995> john38, just choose x64
[18:24] <[Toto]> yes
[18:24] <Monotoko> belgianguy, #ubuntu-offtopic please
[18:24] <belgianguy> Monotoko: kk
[18:24] <Monotoko> [Toto], and it brought back no errors?
[18:24] <[Toto]> Monotoko, : ./configure  its ok
[18:24] <RobinJ1995> openvoid_, the simulation only took half a minute
[18:24] <[Toto]> nope
[18:25] <dforthman> Hi there. I just did a fresh install of 12.04 (64-bit) and I'm having issues getting my GTX 550 ti graphics adapter to work. It worked fine in 10.04. I've tried searching google but I can't find anything relevant. Where should I start?
[18:25] <Monotoko> [Toto], hmmm... I found a topic with the same problem on the undernet forums but it was never answered
[18:25] <RobinJ1995> seriously, ubuntu 12.04 is starting to lok like just another flop for the collection
[18:25] <c3l_> how hard is it to use multiple graphics cards? (I need more screen outputs.) are there any requirements on the graphics cards, or can I pick two arbitrarily? ie. will an ati card work with a nvidia card?
[18:25] <RobinJ1995> c3l_, ati + nvidia = no go
[18:25] <openvoid_> RobinJ1995, never tried with ntfs, but i think tool hve n output of progress. look in io wait on top utillity, if it have value larger than 5 - something is actually happening
[18:25] <RobinJ1995> c3l_, even only ati is a no-go :')
[18:25] <Barack_Obama> some one plz help dforthman .. this is the third time he asked the same question.
[18:25] <[Toto]> i search google and nothing
[18:26] <c3l_> RobinJ1995: so what is required to use several graphics cards?
[18:26] <Monotoko> RobinJ, it's always done that... if you told any version of Linux or Windows to do the same, it'd take just as long
[18:26] <mouth1> hi
[18:27] <mouth1> i wanted to ask who the developer of the ubuntu restricted extras is
[18:27] <convict> Monotoko, boot-repair usually take 4 hours? :P
[18:27] <mouth1> it says "license unknown"
[18:27] <RobinJ1995> 75% coming from ntfsresize, openvoid_. writing 35MB/s, so i'm ok? another 90% comes from flush it says
[18:27] <Monotoko> convict, why are you using boot repair? You should have just gone for "grub-install" and rewrote the MBR
[18:27] <Monotoko> boot repair is the next thing
[18:28] <natman> hey, i am running ubuntu 12.04 live, from usb stick - it runs quiet well. when i go for full install to HDD will it be much slower? ( the pc is old'ish, 1,6ghz centrino dual core, 2gb ram, tiny nvidia card )
[18:28] <Pici> mouth1: ubuntu-restricted-extras is a metapackage, it contains nothing, but depends on a number of other packages.
[18:28] <openvoid_> RobinJ1995, its working, just wait until complete, i calculated - about 10 hours per 1 tb
[18:28] <RobinJ1995> openvoid_, thanks =D
[18:28] <Silverfish> natman, it will be faster when installed.
[18:28] <TheBigRedOne> my live USB won't boot, the screen remains black with a white blinking text cursor...
[18:28] <SafariMonkey> hello people! just wondering, does compiz not work on 12.04 default or is there another reason it crashes? I just updated, restarted and got the message that compiz crashed. if I thy to relaunch it it crashes again. :/
[18:29] <dforthman> TheBigRedOne, nVidia card?
[18:29] <TheBigRedOne> no, it is a HP laptop with Intel CPU and integrated intel graphics
[18:29] <natman> TheBigRedOne: Try F6 on boot screen and use nodem (?? cant spell it ) as a boot option
[18:29] <mouth1> hi i wanted to ask who the developer/maintainer of the ubuntu restricted extras package is
[18:29] <mouth1> is this a safe thing to download or should i better install the codecs on my own?
[18:29] <chiluk> natman from what I've found usb sticks give relatively slow transactions per second.  Even less than a hard drive  *(unless you are spending >$3 /gb for your stick)
[18:30] <chiluk> natman, so it should be faster
[18:30] <mouth1> it says "license unknown" in the ubuntu software center
[18:30] <natman> chiluk: cool mom will find out later
[18:30] <natman> :)
[18:30] <TheBigRedOne> natman: ive had this before with 11.10 then i created the USB with a terminal command (very simple) i just don't remember it and cant find it anywhere
[18:30] <Pici> mouth1: ubuntu-restricted-extras is a metapackage, it contains nothing, but depends on a number of other packages. It doesn't have a license of its own.
[18:31] <mouth1> ah ok thanks Pici, what did you install?
[18:31] <mouth1> it comes with java and i don't want java
[18:31] <mouth1> :D
[18:31] <natman> TheBigRedOne: Sorry, dont know about that, that boot option solved a simlar issue for me yesterday
[18:31] <Pici> mouth1: Then look at what the package depends on and install those individually.
[18:31] <TheBigRedOne> natman: okay ill try to catch the right moment for F6 what is the option that i need to enter?
[18:32] <mouth1> Pici, i want to play mp3, flash and wmv/avi
[18:32] <mouth1> can you please tell me what i need?
[18:33] <Pici> mouth1: ubuntu-restricted-extras will only install the icedtea plugin, that isn't Oracle's java.
[18:33] <leagris> Please in 12.04 gnome3 desktop, how to I prevent top and botom bars from overlapping full screen windows?
[18:33] <mouth1> Pici, di you have ubuntu restricted extras installed or do you install codecs on your own?
[18:33] <kuanox> go and back
[18:33] <TheBigRedOne> natman: just hititng F6 seems to have made progress xD thanks
[18:33] <l_r> isnt there the dvd iso? i got an iso for cd, i dont think i can burn it on a cd
[18:33] <Pici> mouth1: I use ubuntu restricted extras on my systems.
[18:33] <natman> TheBigRedOne: Okay turn machine on, you see that tiny icon with " keyboard = stick man" at that point hit any button, you then see the "old installer", pick english ( i assume for you ), then press F6, you see a small list pick "nodem( i cant spell it totally forget it, i thinik its the last one ) hit enter, then ESC then "try/install"
[18:34] <leagris> Please in 12.04 gnome3 desktop, how do I get by the volume control icon in the top right bar?
[18:34] <l_r> *on a dvd
[18:34] <TheBigRedOne> natman: thanks if this fails i will try that
[18:34] <Pici> l_r: you can burn it on a dvd, but we do also have a larger dvd image if you prefer that... let me get you a link.
[18:34] <upset> You guys, I checked the iso I torrented with md5sum, it looked the same as the official one, and then I ran a defect check with it and it still says the md5 checksum is wrong
[18:35] <l_r> Pici, thx, 64 bit x86 , thx
[18:35] <dforthman> Hi there. I just did a fresh install of 12.04 (64-bit) and I'm having issues getting my GTX 550 ti graphics adapter to work. It worked fine in 10.04. I've tried searching google but I can't find anything relevant. It works when I switch the main adapter to onboard in bios and use the onboard adapter.
[18:35] <Pici> upset: try burning it at the slowest speed your drive supports.
[18:35] <SafariMonkey> guys, does compiz work on 12.04 with unity?
[18:35] <upset> Pici: I'm not burning it
[18:35] <enigma2009> hi all
[18:35] <xtjacob> just a quick question, I downloaded the final beta and installed it last night. It should update to the release version right?
[18:35] <nadsys1> hello, have an image we use which was made on a machine with an nvidia G-card, new models now have ati cards, from terminal, what drivers must i uninstall and what drivers do i need to install to get it to work? ty
[18:35] <upset> Pici: I don't have a disk drive
[18:35] <upset> Pici: USB
[18:35] <Kircle> I keep getting errors when trying to update to 12.04 saying it failed to retrieve this and that package. Would I be better upgrading from the 12.04 disc?
[18:36] <Pici> l_r: http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/releases/12.04/release/ubuntu-12.04-dvd-i386.iso or http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/releases/12.04/release/ubuntu-12.04-dvd-amd64.iso
[18:36] <Fat-Thing> http://paste.ubuntu.com/947905/ <--- i just don't get it! :(
[18:36] <enigma2009> i'm buildind a preseed install of 12.04,it seems d-i does not run the late_command script,did anyone get the same problem?
[18:37] <l_r> Pici, is the dvd version also live?
[18:37] <SafariMonkey> xtjacob, from what I heard yesterday, it should be ale to install without overwriting things that are the same.
[18:37] <alien64> upset: if md5 is bad then ypu have a bad iso get it from a diff mirror
[18:37] <SafariMonkey> so should compiz work?
[18:38] <upset> alien64: My first one was from the main download page, my second one was from the official torrent
[18:38] <xtjacob> Will it work via apt-get upgrade?
[18:38] <upset> alien64: How are they even wrong?
[18:38] <Pici> l_r: yes
[18:38] <openbees> upset
[18:38] <SafariMonkey> xtjacob, probably. why not try?
[18:38] <upset> openbees: Yes?
[18:39] <SafariMonkey> has anyone got compiz working?
[18:39] <SafariMonkey> on 12.04
[18:39] <enigma2009> no idea?
[18:41] <ogra_> SafariMonkey, since unity is a compiz plugin i would say everyone who uses unity does :)
[18:41] <bob____> When upgrading to 12.04 I get an error in authenticating some packages:  adobe-flash-properties-gtk adobe-flashplugin skype skype-bin
[18:41] <dforthman> Would installing the latest nvidia driver help with my problem with a GTX 550ti giving a blank purple screen?
[18:41] <enigma2009> noone tested late_command on 12.04?
[18:42] <bob____> How do you solve this? Simply uninstall packages?
[18:42] <upset> Why do all the official ubuntu iso's give me bad checksums
[18:42] <dforthman> bob____, i did a fresh install and skype installed fine. try reinstalling the packages.
[18:42] <l_r> what is the head-up display? what does it mean
[18:42] <rahulwadh> There is some problem with my computer. As soon as I open any window it takes around 10-15 minutes to open and everything is very slow.
[18:42] <rahulwadh> When I tried to upgrade it to 12.04 it was taking ages to copy the files. What should I do to fix it?
[18:43] <gord_> after DD'ing the 12.04 ISO to a USB stick, I now get "isolinux.bin missing or corrupt. OS not found" any ideas?
[18:43] <varikonniemi> i cannot express myself in english how idiotic it was to still recommend the 32 bit version as default
[18:43] <varikonniemi> in 12.04
[18:43] <zykotick9> gord_: "technically" you should be using cat not dd to move it to USB - but that's probably unrelated to your issue.
[18:44] <gord_> zykotick9: same error both ways :(
[18:44] <B|tchX> mv to move files
[18:44] <gord_> on several different machines too
[18:45] <L3top> why would that be idiotic varikonniemi? rahulwadh type top   in a terminal and see if anything stands out as wrong.
[18:45] <Fat-Thing> http://paste.ubuntu.com/947905/ <--- i just don't get it! :(
[18:45] <mouth1> Pici, can you actually see the "source" from ubuntu-restricted-extras
[18:46] <mouth1> i want to be double sure i download only the things i want and not malware or anyhting
[18:46] <mouth1> coming from windows...
[18:46] <varikonniemi> since 32 bit is slower, less secure, and will be severely restricted in capabilities when the 5y cycle of LTS is out
[18:46] <ogra_> less secure ???
[18:46]  * samster34 is downloading 64 bit right now, hoping it will run just a teeny bit faster on my laptop in a VM
[18:46] <varikonniemi> budget computers will have 16 gigs of ram and userspace runnign directly on ram etc
[18:46] <zykotick9> varikonniemi: "32 bit is slower" doesn't make sense, in many cases it can be faster...
[18:47] <L3top> There is not enough information there Fat-Thing. What are you running to produce that output? rk hunter?
[18:47] <varikonniemi> afaik 64bit version uses some protection mechanisms in 64 bit version
[18:47] <varikonniemi> so some attacks are harder
[18:47] <upset> YO
[18:47] <varikonniemi> Phoronix did extensive testing and it was WAY slower
[18:47] <syst3mfailur3> hey all, does anyone know how to recover files from an external hard drive?
[18:47] <ogra_> varikonniemi, there was a survey before that decision was made ... more than a third of the ubuntu users used HW that wasnt 64bit capable
[18:47] <CalicoJack> Hey folks, was looking for some anecdotal feedback on upgrading from 11.10.  Any big problems or hiccups?
[18:47] <Pici> mouth1: Packages in the Ubuntu repositories are not malware.  You can look at apt-cache show ubuntu-restricted-extras for what it depends on, and if you really want to get the source you can use apt-get source ubuntu-restricted-extras
[18:47] <tzemljak> i have no menu bar in my xchat/smuxi chat :( any tips ?
[18:47] <syst3mfailur3> just accidentally wiped it completely
[18:47] <stefg> !testdisk
[18:48] <mouth1> hmm
[18:48] <bnv> hi
[18:48] <mouth1> is everyone here using ubuntu-restricted-extras?
[18:48] <dforthman> tzemljak, it's along the top bar. that says "XChat: etc etc". Just put your mouse over it.
[18:48] <zykotick9> !info testdisk | stefg syst3mfailur3
[18:48] <ogra_> varikonniemi, it will be discussed at UDS, feel free to participate in the discussion
[18:48] <ogra_> (for 12.10 that is)
[18:48] <alien64> mouth1: i am
[18:48] <varikonniemi> i am not that into takint this a problem upon my shoulders
[18:49] <helo> man... what a bad decision to try btrfs on /
[18:49] <bob____> CalicoJack. I've had problems with an error authenticating some packages on upgrade
[18:49] <helo> there should be some kind of warning
[18:49] <stefg> syst3mfailur3: i'd rather use some specialized distro like SysResCD for that
[18:49] <dforthman> Hi there. I just did a fresh install of 12.04 (64-bit) and I'm having issues getting my GTX 550 ti graphics adapter to work. It worked fine in 10.04. I've tried searching google but I can't find anything relevant. It works when I switch the main adapter to onboard in bios and use the onboard adapter. What do you need to be able to help me get the graphics card working?
[18:49] <mouth1> alien64, but for example it includes the gstreamer-bad plugins, they might be not stable though
[18:49] <varikonniemi> there are other distros out there, if ubuntu continues the stride towards where it is headed
[18:49] <zykotick9> helo: using non-completed/testing filesystems always seems silly to me.
[18:49] <CalicoJack> bob____, which packages specifically, if you don't mind my asking?
[18:50] <helo> zykotick9: i don't understand why it is even an option, particularly for an LTS release
[18:50] <bob____> CalicoJack, adobe-flash-properties-gtk adobe-flashplugin skype skype-bin
[18:50] <alien64> mouth1: yeah not sure on that one not using it
[18:50] <helo> i assumed "this is LTS; btrfs must be ready for prime time"
[18:50] <zykotick9> helo: in the default install?
[18:50] <kbanman> Is it possible to run a VNC server without X?
[18:50] <L3top> yes varikonniemi... you can't be bothered to take on the burden of a discussion in the proper forum... Just complaining about it in open chat... without any experience, just heresay.
[18:50] <stefg> dforthman: is that some kind of optimus setup (switching Graphic Adapters on the fly) ?
[18:50] <ogra_> varikonniemi, well, you are free to change but you are also free to participate in public discussions and tell ubuntu devs why you thingk 32bit is less safe than 64
[18:50] <varikonniemi> the fact that some % of ubuntu users have some netbook with 32bit atom or some ancient setup does not mean the recommendation would be 64bit
[18:50] <CalicoJack> bob____, thanks for that, I will keep an eye on those
[18:50] <varikonniemi> well thats what i am doing here
[18:50] <syst3mfailur3> stefg: so testdisk or SysResCD?
[18:50] <helo> zykotick9: it's offered as an option... there are no filesystem options for a fully default install ofc
[18:50] <ogra_> varikonniemi, a huge amount of ubuntu users lives in 3rd world countries
[18:51] <dforthman> stefg, No. I disabled the PCI-E adapter in bios and am using the onboard adapter.
[18:51] <ogra_> varikonniemi, thats one of the reasons ubuntu still defaults to CDs for example
[18:51] <samster34> hey, does anyone know a gui tool that allows you to make new/modify old keyboard layouts?
[18:51] <bnv> Can anyone please help me? I have a dual monitor setup with two 22" FullHD monitors (3840 x 1080 pixel resolution) and I have an ati radeon HD5770 too, but I can't set that option nowhere to be the desktop extended like in Windows
[18:51] <rahulwadh> L3top ubuntu has stopped booting :(
[18:51] <L3top> 32 is the MOST compatable across MOST systems in MOST of the world. Of course it is recommended for new users.
[18:51] <zykotick9> varikonniemi: 64bit's advantages are very small in number, and it's major advantage (using more then 4GB memory properly) is probably a minority of systems.
[18:51] <varikonniemi> how on earth are you gonna run unity, if not 64bit?
[18:51] <stefg> syst3mfailur3: sysrescd has testdisk, and other specialized tools.... it's complete recovery environment
[18:51] <yetr2> /usr/sbin/grub-setup: warn: Your embedding area is unusually small.  core.img won't fit in it..
[18:51] <beerseller> С праздником, товарищи!
[18:52] <yetr2> updated my system. now I get that
[18:52] <CalicoJack> varikonniemi, unity runs just fine in 32 bit
[18:52] <stefg> !ru
[18:52] <ogra_> varikonniemi, i have only one 64bit machine here out of 20 i run ... and thats a server ... all otrhers run 32bit and run unity just fine
[18:52] <varikonniemi> yes, but 32bit hw is not powerfull enough
[18:52] <zykotick9> helo: ok just checking, i don't remember seeing btrfs offered in 12.04 (but wasn't sure, didn't check for it)
[18:52] <ogra_> huh ?
[18:52] <mystblade9> zykotick9: I've always wondered why somebody would want more than 4GB ram, but now I know why. Running servers, using Digital Audio Workstations, copying files, browsing, and playing a game at the same time is very taxing :P
[18:52] <zykotick9> helo: brtfs should be avoided in my opinion, same for zfs on ubuntu
[18:52] <CalicoJack> varikonniemi, i don't think you understand the difference between 32bit and 64bit.
[18:52]  * ogra_ agrees
[18:52] <varikonniemi> my last 32bit machine was a p4
[18:53] <zykotick9> mystblade9: i WISH i had way more RAM (only have 4GB)
[18:53] <helo> zykotick9: no stability problems that i've notices do far, but performance with dpkg/apt is terrible
[18:53] <L3top> varikonniemi: I am quite sure you could not detect a difference between 64 and 32 on identical hw.
[18:53] <varikonniemi> the amd3000+ i replaced it with was glorious 64bit
[18:53] <helo> abysmally slow
[18:53] <samster34> I have 5 pcs here, and not a single one has 32 bit hardware or software :p
[18:53] <varikonniemi> and i would not run 12.04 on that
[18:53] <bnv> so I have two separate monitors with unity and I cant set the windows like form of extended desktop. I used eyefinity technology to extend my desktop
[18:53] <despr> Hi, had a problem after an update. Wireless mouse and keyboard stopt working, I can access the box from ssh and the system seems to recognize it in /var/log /kern.log  any1 knows a fix or workaround to this?? seems to be a known issue....
[18:53] <varikonniemi> since ubuntu would choke
[18:53] <Fat-Thing> http://paste.ubuntu.com/947814/  L3top this is the full output of rkhunter :'(
[18:53] <ogra_> varikonniemi, to make full use of 64bit your app needs to actually be written for using the extra registers
[18:53] <CalicoJack> varikonniemi, they are still making current hardware with 32 bit processors which are much faster than P4s
[18:53] <bnv> but I dont find an alternative for ubuntu
[18:53] <varikonniemi> really?
[18:53] <mystblade9> varikonniemi: There are plenty of newer processors that are not 64-bit. Also, 32-bit Ubuntu does run on 64-bit computers, it is just slower.
[18:53] <ogra_> varikonniemi, i doubt more than 10% of the apps in the ubuntu archive actually do that
[18:53] <varikonniemi> some atoms is all i know, embedded stuff
[18:53] <syst3mfailur3> stefg: thanks, I'll give it a shot
[18:54] <Dr_willis_> Most arm processors are 32bit.  I think 64bit ones are just now comming out.
[18:54] <varikonniemi> :D
[18:54] <Dr_willis_> newer atoms are also 64bit.
[18:54] <varikonniemi> 64 bit has been desktop standard for 10 years
[18:54] <zykotick9> mystblade9: only if that 32bit cpu supports virtualization can it run 64bit even CLOSE to native.
[18:54] <CalicoJack> varikonniemi, atom processors outperform P4s pretty handily
[18:54] <ogra_> varikonniemi, tell that rto the app devs :)
[18:54] <Debolaz> Is booting with an encrypted disk and btrfs filesystem supported again in 12.04?
[18:55] <mystblade9> zykotick9: I said a 64-bit CPU can run 32-bit Operating Systems, not the other way around :P
[18:55] <ogra_> the only two non server apps that currently come to my mind that make actual use of 64bit are gimp and inkscape
[18:55] <varikonniemi> when i was still in windows camp, i expected them to drop x86 in vistas successor
[18:55] <helo> Debolaz: encrypted /home is, and btrfs is... not sure about together, but i'd assume yes
[18:55] <varikonniemi> and thats a long time ago
[18:55] <despr> Hi, had a problem after an update. Wireless mouse and keyboard stopt working, I can access the box from ssh and the system seems to recognize it in /var/log /kern.log  any1 knows a fix or workaround to this?? seems to be a known issue....
[18:55] <zykotick9> mystblade9: "Also, 32-bit Ubuntu does run on 64-bit computers"
[18:55] <Debolaz> helo: I'll have a try and see. I used to work in ubuntu, then some random changes fibered it.
[18:55] <zykotick9> mystblade9: sorry!
[18:55] <helo> Debolaz: btrfs for / sucks though, performance is baaad
[18:55] <Debolaz> *fubared it
[18:56] <Debolaz> Oh?
[18:56]  * itaylor57 prefers zfs
[18:56] <belgianguy> seems my installation is stuck on cleanup :/
[18:56] <varikonniemi> i am running fastest c2d with gts250 gfx
[18:56] <varikonniemi> and this is probably the minimum setup for smooth usage
[18:56] <mystblade9> zykes-_: np :P
[18:56] <mystblade9> i mean zykotick9
[18:56] <designbybeck> Anyone else having Hangs on 12.04 install?
[18:56] <varikonniemi> 11.04 unity was unbearable sluggish
[18:57] <belgianguy> it's been saying "Looking for unused software"
[18:57] <belgianguy> for an hour now
[18:57] <varikonniemi> so i used gnome shell
[18:57] <Dr_willis_> designbybeck,  servers are overloaded.. so downloading updates can be slow.
[18:57] <varikonniemi> now in 12.04 i can stand the unity responsiveness
[18:57] <designbybeck> hmmm
[18:57] <varikonniemi> but try running it on any non 32 bit HW and you suffer
[18:57] <Debolaz> itaylor57: I would not mind a ZFS root filesystem if that was possible in an easy way. :)
[18:57] <varikonniemi> 64*
[18:57] <upset> md5sum gives me the correct (according to http://releases.ubuntu.com/precise/MD5SUMS) checksum for alternative i386, but the check on the iso itself says it's wrong.
[18:57] <ogra_> varikonniemi, and how does that relate to 64bit ?
[18:57] <convict> Monotoko, still no joy. Getting the same message
[18:57] <dforthman> Hi there. I just did a fresh install of 12.04 (64-bit) and I'm having issues getting my GTX 550 ti graphics adapter to work. It worked fine in 10.04. I've tried searching google but I can't find anything relevant. I am able to boot after disabling PCI-E graphics in bios and use the onboard adapter. What do you need to be able to help me get the graphics card working?
[18:57] <Debolaz> varikonniemi: Unity is even quick and snappy inside a virtual machine.
[18:57] <upset> What is even happening?
[18:57] <zykotick9> ogra_: it doesn't
[18:57] <varikonniemi> since all new hw is 64bit
[18:57] <varikonniemi> in no other way
[18:57] <ogra_> right
[18:58] <despr> Hi, had a problem after an update. Wireless mouse and keyboard stopt working, I can access the box from ssh and the system seems to recognize it in /var/log /kern.log  any1 knows a fix or workaround to this?? seems to be a known issue....
[18:58] <ron> hmm, can I do a clean install of ubuntu, but keep a couple of apps? not sure that even makes sense.
[18:58] <ogra_> varikonniemi, thats not true
[18:58] <sebsebseb>  
[18:58] <varikonniemi> srsly, its over 10 years since 64bit came to mainstream
[18:58] <Dr_willis_> ron,  what apps?
[18:58] <ron> Dr_willis_: xbmc, znc
[18:58] <samster34> even the torrent is slow to download....
[18:58] <belgianguy> nm, it just kicked in again
[18:58] <upset> varikonniemi: And yet it still isn't 'mainstream'
[18:58] <Fyodorovna> upset, check the download with the torrent it may clean it up the torrents seem to be running pretty fast right now.
[18:58] <ogra_> varikonniemi, and 32 vs 64 has nothing to do with unity speed (as you just said yourself, the code simply got more performant between two releases, nit related to 32 vs 64)
[18:58] <Dr_willis_> ron,  just save your configs and reinstall them.
[18:58] <kbanman> Is it possible to run a VNC server without installing X11?
[18:59] <varikonniemi> i am not saying that
[18:59] <upset> samster34: That doesn't make sense. If a lot of people are leeching it should be fast
[18:59] <Bearnik> anyone test new ubuntu on vmware worksation ?
[18:59] <Dr_willis_> samster34,  i got the iso in under 10 min.
[18:59] <samster34> I'm getting 250KB/s out of the desktop-amd64 torrent :/
[18:59] <upset> Fyodorovna: What?
[18:59] <dforthman> Can you take the 32 vs 64 debate to #ubuntu-offtopic so people can focus on resolving issues?
[18:59] <varikonniemi> just that no system with a 32bit processor is probably able to run 1204 sufficiently
[18:59] <varikonniemi> even with a good gfx card
[18:59] <guve> Hey guys, do you want a good fps on Ubuntu? Let your voice be heard hear http://ravaged.ideascale.com/a/dtd/Linux-Client/122391-18951
[18:59] <Fyodorovna> upset, what is your best answer?
[18:59] <upset> Fyodorovna: Best answer to what?
[18:59] <Dr_willis_> kbanman,  im not sure what you would do with such a vnc server. :) but i do recall some framebuffer-vnc servers that served up the console..
[18:59] <samster34> upset: yea, I know. but it isn't :/
[18:59] <despr> Hi, had a problem after an update. Wireless mouse and keyboard stopt working, I can access the box from ssh and the system seems to recognize it in /var/log /kern.log  any1 knows a fix or workaround to this?? seems to be a known issue....
[19:00] <dforthman> Hi there. I just did a fresh install of 12.04 (64-bit) and I'm having issues getting my GTX 550 ti graphics adapter to work. It worked fine in 10.04. I've tried searching google but I can't find anything relevant. I am able to boot after disabling PCI-E graphics in bios and use the onboard adapter. What do you need to be able to help me get the graphics card working?
[19:00] <kbanman> Dr_willis_: To remotely debug font sizes, etc
[19:00] <ron> Dr_willis_: perhaps a fresh installation of xbmc would also be good. I think the major problem is that I'm too lazy :)
[19:00] <ogra_> varikonniemi, unity runs just fine on an OMAP4 ARM cpu with 1G of ram (in 32bit)
[19:00] <varikonniemi> idk if some fast 32bit atom with pci-e gfx would suffice, i don't know
[19:00] <upset> samster34: The one I used was very fast. Maybe your connection is bad.
[19:00] <gorski> when will the upgrade from lucid to precise be avaiable?
[19:00] <varikonniemi> all i have seen unity on arm is a HUGE LAGFEST'
[19:00] <varikonniemi> so please link video?
[19:00] <ogra_> varikonniemi, where exactly did you see unity on arm yet ?
[19:01] <Fyodorovna> upset, you have a bad md5sum, a torrent app will check the iso for finish or needed stuff.
[19:01] <ogra_> (note that i uploaded the final fix to make it work today to the ubuntu archive)
[19:01] <samster34> upset: not that I can tell. direct downloads go as fast as 3MB/s
[19:01] <varikonniemi> some demos
[19:01] <varikonniemi> on yt
[19:01] <ogra_> tsk
[19:01] <upset> Fyodorovna: I finished it a while ago. I'm seeding now.
[19:01] <marw> any tips on enabling gnome support for chrome? "experimental GNOME menu bar support" is not listed in about: flags.
[19:01] <slikts_> every day I'm shocked how hard it is to resize windows and that it's not fixed
[19:01] <despr> Hi, had a problem after an update. Wireless mouse and keyboard stopt working, I can access the box from ssh and the system seems to recognize it in /var/log /kern.log  any1 knows a fix or workaround to this?? seems to be a known issue....
[19:01] <Bearnik> anyone test new ubuntu in vmware with 3d support ?
[19:01] <varikonniemi> slikts, it is since you are not supposed to
[19:01] <QuantumQuanta> How can I make notification messages go away faster?
[19:01] <despr> plez hlp
[19:02] <ron> can I trigger a fresh installation of 12.04 from 12.04 without burning the iso and running it from disc?
[19:02] <varikonniemi> left/right snap and workspace switcher should cover all your needs
[19:02] <upset> Fyodorovna: Do you know why md5sum would give me a correct hash, but the live drive's check would not?
[19:02] <Fyodorovna> slikts, windows is an easy resize you need to move all the data to the front of its partition  at times though.
[19:02] <Pici> gorski: you can upgrade now by using the -d switch with do-release-upgrade, but for saftey's sake it won't prompt you until we release 12.04.1
[19:02] <Fyodorovna> upset, yes the iso is incorrect it seems from your description
[19:03] <upset> Fyodorovna: md5sum says otherwise
[19:03] <upset> Fyodorovna: It's the exact value on the website
[19:03] <alien64> upset: get a new iso like i said
[19:03] <alien64> yours is bad
[19:03] <gbs_work> Can someone point me out for torrent download of 12.04 ubuntu?
[19:03] <Fyodorovna> upset, then I miss understood that the sites md5 is correct but the iso is not.
[19:03] <Dr_willis_> http://releases.ubuntu.com/precise  gbs_work
[19:03] <samster34> gbs_work: http://www.ubuntu.com/download/desktop/alternative-downloads
[19:04] <gorski> Pici: ok, tnx
[19:04] <despr> Hi, had a problem after an update. Wireless mouse and keyboard stopt working, I can access the box from ssh and the system seems to recognize it in /var/log /kern.log  any1 knows a fix or workaround to this?? seems to be a known issue....the google didnt hlp
[19:04] <upset> Fyodorovna: The iso is correct, according to md5sum. When I boot the iso and do a check, it says it is wrong but does not print the incorrect checksum.
[19:04] <rfm> uh, is upgrading lucid>precise not even supposed to work yet?  having terrible troubles upgrading with the alternate cd..
[19:05] <upset> alien64: I'm very confused though. Why are two of the official ubuntu downloads wrong, especially the torrent one?
[19:05] <slikts_> does anyone else have a problem that alt-tab stops working and just shakes the icons? I need to click the dock with my mouse to change focus!
[19:05] <slikts_> it happens all the time! this is on top of resizing being broken! WTF!
[19:05] <upset> slikts_: You can force the icons to wiggle? That's really cute.
[19:05] <Dr_willis_> Wiggle that Icon Baby! ;)
[19:05] <Fyodorovna> upset,  So what brings you to the channel?
[19:06] <alien64> upset: does it boot?
[19:06] <SafariMonkey> I'm sorry if someone has already answered this, but does compiz work on 12.04?
[19:06] <slikts_> in unity 2d the dock icons just shake instead of focusing the window if I'm currently in chromium
[19:06] <Dr_willis_> SafariMonkey,  works fine for most people i imagine.. works for me.
[19:06] <slikts_> I've lived through 11.04, daily crashes etc, but this is effing TOO MUCH
[19:06] <Fyodorovna> SafariMonkey, Yes, the uunity desktop is a plugin in compiz.
[19:06] <despr> Hi, had a problem after an update. Wireless mouse and keyboard stopt working, I can access the box from ssh and the system seems to recognize it in /var/log /kern.log  any1 knows a fix or workaround to this?? seems to be a known issue....the google didnt hlp, pleez any1
[19:06] <ogra_> SafariMonkey, as i said above, unity is a compiz plugin ... so it would be heavily noticed if compiz wouldnt work
[19:07] <slikts_> canonical are basically cretins
[19:07] <upset> alien64: Well, not to the desktop. There's no option to do that on the alternative. I'm just talking about the check they have from the initial menu, alongside disk recovery stuff and memtest
[19:07] <upset> slikts_ Why do you say this
[19:07] <SafariMonkey> hello people! just wondering, does compiz not work on 12.04 default or is there another reason it crashes? I just updated, restarted and got the message that compiz crashed. if I thy to relaunch it it crashes again. :/
[19:07] <upset> slikts_ Get out if you hate Ubuntu
[19:07] <CKyle22> So if I'm running Lucid, I won't get an upgrade notification until 2.04.01?
[19:07] <CKyle22> 12.04.1*
[19:07] <Dan-The-Man> SafariMonkey, it works fine for me
[19:07] <QuantumQuanta> Is there a way to change notification settings (those text on black boxes that overlay the screen in the upper-right corner for a few seconds)? I can 't seem to find it in the system settings menu.
[19:07] <slikts_> upset: because I'm upset, and eff you
[19:07] <dforthman>  I just did a fresh install of 12.04 (64-bit) and I'm having issues getting my GTX 550 ti graphics adapter to work. It worked fine in 10.04. I've tried searching google but I can't find anything relevant. I am able to boot after disabling PCI-E graphics in bios and use the onboard adapter. What do you need to be able to help me get the graphics card working?
[19:07] <Dan-The-Man> SafariMonkey, must be a driver issue
[19:07] <Logan_> !language | slikts_
[19:08] <upset> slikts_: Cry me a river, buddy. Use another os.
[19:08] <Logan_> upset: That's not helpful, either.
[19:08] <upset> Logan_: He doesn't have to use Ubuntu, and I don
[19:08] <Dan-The-Man> slikts, very constructive criticism
[19:08] <upset> *t think he understands that
[19:08] <SafariMonkey> thanks. I felt all but ignored the last 5 last times I posted.
[19:08] <Logan_> upset: Yes, but we're supposed to be helping him, not pushing him to another operating system.
[19:09] <dforthman> SafariMonkey, I feel your pain, sir.
[19:09] <Dan-The-Man> SafariMonkey, haha yea the channel is crazy crowded right now
[19:09] <ZenGuy311> why am i unable to add-apt-repository on my natty server vps
[19:09] <ZenGuy311> ?
[19:09] <SafariMonkey> and will someone answer dforthman?
[19:09] <upset> Logan_: We aren't Canonical employees, and there isn't a competive FOSS market
[19:09] <Pici> ZenGuy311: you need the python-software-properties package first.
[19:09] <Logan_> ZenGuy311: Do you receive an error message?
[19:09] <despr> Hi, had a problem after an update. Wireless mouse and keyboard stopt working, I can access the box from ssh and the system seems to recognize it in /var/log /kern.log  any1 knows a fix or workaround to this?? seems to be a known issue....the google didnt hlp, pleez any1
[19:09] <slikts_> upset: *competitive
[19:09] <Dan-The-Man> dforthman, ill look it to ur issue
[19:09] <dforthman> Dan-The-Man, thanks.
[19:09] <slikts_> upset: what has given you the impression that you can tell me what to do?
[19:09] <Logan_> upset: If you're not here to help other users, then please don't interact with them.
[19:09] <upset> Logan_: If he doesn't like ubuntu, he can be friendly or leave
[19:09] <ZenGuy311> Pici:  ok
[19:09] <alien64> upset: feeding him with insults will only make it worse
[19:10] <belgianguy> best way to get flash back?
[19:10] <SafariMonkey> dforthman, I've seen that post so many times. I feel for you.
[19:10] <craigbass1976> I just got an email...  In trying to debug a java app, the folks are telling me to stick a log file in ~/me (no problem) then "modify the environment to add this environment variable"   What environment?  Does this involve the java path you suppose?
[19:10] <upset> slikts_: Dude, if you do not enjoy being here don't stay. It's not complicated at all. You're only being obnoxious and disrupting everyone.
[19:10] <LjL> slikts_, upset: stop bickering now. this is a support channel
[19:10] <L3top> dforthman: apt-get install nvidia-current
[19:10] <slikts_> upset: thanks for explaining it, genius
[19:11] <L3top> dforthman: sudo apt-get install nvidia-current
[19:11] <despr> Hi, had a problem after an update. Wireless mouse and keyboard stopt working, I can access the box from ssh and the system seems to recognize it in /var/log /kern.log  any1 knows a fix or workaround to this?? seems to be a known issue....the google didnt hlp, pleez any1
[19:11] <alien64> upset: enough
[19:11] <dforthman> L3top, so you think it's an issue with the default driver?
[19:11] <Dan-The-Man> dforthman, as of now what driver are u using
[19:11] <hudeki> I'm on 12.04 from beta 1. I was updating all the time. I did not have big updates today, larger then 10MB, how to now that I'm using the latest release?
[19:11] <despr> am i invisible?
[19:11] <upset> alien64: I thought it was good to be constructive
[19:11] <dforthman> Dan-The-Man, the default one. I'm installing nvidia-current now
[19:11] <Logan_> !patience | despr
[19:11] <upset> despr: What's your query
[19:11] <mouth1> does the ubuntu software center automatically install 64 bit versions of apps when you are on amd64?
[19:12] <Dan-The-Man> dforthman, yea use the proprietary
[19:12] <upset> Fyodorovna:  You still there?
[19:12] <Logan_> mouth1: Yes, it does.
[19:12] <Fyodorovna> upset, yes.
[19:12] <Dan-The-Man> mouth1, why yes, yes it does
[19:12] <dforthman> Ok, I'll reboot and if I don't return thanks to Dan-The-Man and L3top for your help. Otherwise I'll be back :D
[19:12] <mouth1> Logan_, so i can install flash player from the ubuntu software center or from adobe?
[19:12] <upset> Fyodorovna: Know anything that may help me or are you out of ideas besides finding another iso?
[19:12] <mouth1> what's better?
[19:12] <L3top> dforthman you might also want to do the reverse of what you have done, and disable the onboard video and  run
[19:12] <zykotick9> CKyle22: i've been searching for 10.04->12.04 upgrade info, but can't find anything... i think you might be right about the LTS upgrade not happening until the .1 release - but have no proof.  man, good luck with that upgrade - HUGE changes.
[19:13] <Logan_> mouth1: The Software Center is a better solution for Flash.
[19:13] <mouth1> ok thanks Logan_ ! but why? :D
[19:13] <L3top> rahulwadh: I do not remember your issue. Remind me
[19:13] <Dan-The-Man> mouth1, I would suggest ubuntu-restricted-extras package
[19:13] <marw> mouth1, there's a good plugin for flash installation.
[19:13] <Logan_> mouth1: Adobe doesn't provide a .deb file for Flash, and Ubuntu has it packaged.
[19:13] <Fyodorovna> upset, not sure really I have never heard of checking the md5 from the alternate, it is a bit confusing the way it looks to me.
[19:14] <rahulwadh> everything on my laptop is very slow. I am not able to install 12.04 nor I am able to boot 10.04 L3top
[19:14] <Logan_> mouth1: So I would recommend just getting it from the Sofware Center, or from Terminal with sudo apt-get install flashplugin-installer.
[19:14] <mouth1> Dan-The-Man, I don't want that because it installs bad plugins and java!
[19:14] <L3top> Fyodorovna: check md5s from ANYTHING.
[19:14] <mouth1> thanks!
[19:14] <momopistachio> UBUNTU FRENCH ??
[19:14] <Logan_> mouth1: No problem. :-)
[19:14] <Logan_> !fr | momopistachio
[19:14] <upset> Fyodorovna: Really? It's an option that appears to check the cd-rom, which I assume refers to the iso since I don't have a cd drive. It gave me an md5 checksum error.
[19:14] <marw> i have problems with 12.04 and google-chrome: it's not show in dash, alt+tab window, etc. any tips?
[19:15] <Dan-The-Man> marw, have u tried chromium from the repos
[19:15] <rodd> weird, my update manager says there isn't any update available
[19:15] <upset> Fyodorovna: It also gave the end of an address which looked like something from the boot drive. Am I misidentifying it?
[19:15] <Fyodorovna> upset, is it a usb or a loop boot?
[19:15] <marw> Dan-The-Man, i really want chrome
[19:15] <upset> Fyodorovna: USB
[19:15] <rahulwadh> it takes around 15 minutes to boot from the LiveUSB L3top
[19:15] <upset> Fyodorovna: Although I'm not sure I know what a loop boot is
[19:15] <Skaag_> how do I stop the videotext in grub?
[19:15] <Dan-The-Man> marw, chromium and chrome at this point have no distinguishable differences
[19:15] <L3top> rahulwadh: what does top reveal?
[19:16] <numberto> ubuntu does not start after upgrade to 12.04.   Get an "[drm:intel_dsm_platform_mux_info]  *ERROR* MUX INFO call failed"  error and a black screen. Never gets to login screen. (The way I entered now is by going "load old linux")
[19:16] <upset> rahulwadh: Less on a good computer!
[19:16] <L3top> rahulwadh: that sounds like a hardware problem. use live disk to check ram
[19:16] <uchiha> hi
[19:16] <Dan-The-Man> marw, i would suggest chromium it will work
[19:16] <uchiha> whats up
[19:16] <upset> L3top: Load old linux?
[19:16] <upset> L3top: Woops
[19:16] <rahulwadh> L3top I am not able to understand anything after executing that command
[19:16] <upset> L3top: Disregard me
[19:17] <Ch4rAss> hello, I have ubuntu 11.10 32bit server version and I installed alsa. System recognize my sound card and mplayer is also playing music, but it is rattling. Do I have to install also pulseaudio or what could be a problem. I had normal desktop installation before and sound was just fine.
[19:17] <uchiha> كلاب
[19:17] <rahulwadh> upset what do you mean by that statement. I didn't get you properly
[19:17] <uchiha> ابي
[19:17] <uchiha> جاي تجون
[19:17] <upset> numberto: Load old linux? I guess use the alternate iso and try a recovery. That's a pretty intense error
[19:17] <FloodBot1> uchiha: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[19:17] <uchiha> ابي
[19:17] <tensorpudding> !arabic | uchiha
[19:17] <Logan_> !ar | uchiha
[19:17] <numberto> upset: I am using older kernel
[19:17] <Dan-The-Man> Ch4rAss, dont want 12.04?
[19:17] <pandeiro> anyone know if it's possible to create a usb boot with both 686 and 64bit architectures?
[19:17] <Fyodorovna> upset, I have never really had a problem in this area with 100's of installs I can only guess really.
[19:18] <upset> rahulwadh: Nothing important, please ignore me
[19:18] <tensorpudding> too late
[19:18] <L3top> top reveals what processes are running, how many resources they are using etc... but that sounds like you have a hardware problem if both 1004 1204 and usb live disk are problematic. I suspect your RAM is not happy. Use the live disks checkram function to look for a problem.
[19:18] <Logan_> tensorpudding: I fail. :-(
[19:18] <upset> numberto: Woah. I am not equipped to help
[19:18] <BrianH> Hey guys, I have a slight problem.  I installed likewise-open and connected my system to my Windows Domain successfully, but when I log out I can't enter a username to enter the domain user account.
[19:18] <tensorpudding> i don't know where there is a special channel for argentina
[19:18] <Dr_willis_> pandeiro,  you could set up grub2 to boot differnt ISO files and do it that way.
[19:18] <zykotick9> pandeiro: debian has a 32/64 combo install, ubuntu doesn't by default.  it could be done somehow...
[19:18] <Ch4rAss> Dan-The-Man: it's old Pentium 4 and I would like to use it just for playing videos and mp3s
[19:18] <rahulwadh> upset : okay
[19:18] <numberto> what is ubuntu developer channel?
[19:18] <Dr_willis_> pandeiro,  pendrivelinux has tools./guides on that.
[19:18] <upset> Fyodorovna: 100s of installs?
[19:19] <samster34> so, by the way...I have this prebuilt intel box, and I've been unable to run or install any kind of linux. ubuntu just crashes freezes on a purple screen with stack/call trace messages...
[19:19] <BrianH> Does LightDM provide any way to allow manual entry of usernames?
[19:19] <L3top>  /join #ubuntu-devel
[19:19] <Dan-The-Man> Ch4rAss, 11.10 isnt any better for old hardware then 12.04. in fact you will probably see better performance with 12.04
[19:19] <Fyodorovna> upset, I install often I have a the least 4 OS on my HD generally.
[19:19] <tiago> RUNNING 12.04 ALREADY
[19:19] <upset> Fyodorovna: Do you ever use the alternate?
[19:19] <Dan-The-Man> tiago, CONGRATS
[19:20] <Logan_> numberto: What do you mean by that?
[19:20] <Ch4rAss> Dan-The-Man: do you think that installation of 12.04 should solve my problem?
[19:20] <Fyodorovna> upset, I have but not for a long time all my computers will boot to a live desktop.
[19:20] <numberto> Logan_:  by what?
[19:20] <upset> Fyodorovna: Am I high or something? It really looks like a checksum paradox. I don't understand how this could be, and I can't find any other mirrors.
[19:20] <despr> got a logitec wireless keyboard/mouse usb stick that stopped working under 11.10 after an update some time ago, keyboard seems to work but just when gdm loads mouse and keyboard stops working... any1 got a clue
[19:20] <z3r0d3rp> update 4 hours remaining
[19:20] <z3r0d3rp> fffffffffffffffff
[19:20] <arianit> anybody knows why I'm not getting new release notification in update manager
[19:20] <Dan-The-Man> Ch4rAss, it wouldnt surprise me
[19:20] <Logan_> numberto: What type of developers? App developers?
[19:20] <rahulwadh> l3top : what should I do?
[19:20] <Fyodorovna> upset, what client did you load the usb with?
[19:20] <z3r0d3rp> arianit you have to enable it in preferences
[19:20] <numberto> Logan_: never mind, I already got what I needed
[19:20] <upset> Fyodorovna: I'm not saying mine won't boot to live. I simply don't have the option with the alternative
[19:20] <arianit> z3r0d3rp, how do I do that, any link?
[19:21] <Logan_> numberto: Okay. :-)
[19:21] <z3r0d3rp> open update manager
[19:21] <upset> Fyodorovna: startup disk creator
[19:21] <Dan-The-Man> Ch4rAss, also why server edition?
[19:21] <z3r0d3rp> select preferences
[19:21] <z3r0d3rp> then show distribution upgrades
[19:21] <Fyodorovna> upset, sometimes a different client works try unetbootin.
[19:21] <z3r0d3rp> then check for updates
[19:21] <L3top> rahulwadh: I have told you three times now. Load the live disk, use the memcheck utility on the live disk to check your RAM. It sounds, to me, like a hardware problem.
[19:21] <z3r0d3rp> be warned that mine is taking 4 hours
[19:21] <upset> Fyodorovna: Okay.
[19:21] <z3r0d3rp> so you might want to wait
[19:21] <Logan_> !enter | z3r0d3rp
[19:21] <Fyodorovna> upset, hope that works. :)
[19:22] <Ch4rAss> Dan-The-Man: I just like to use X11 with fluxbox to have max. performance.
[19:22] <rahulwadh> L3top : my RAM is working perfectly fine
[19:22] <z3r0d3rp> ok
[19:22] <samster34> I have this prebuilt intel box,(Q8300, 4GB DDR2, nvidia GT420/220) and I've been unable to run or install any kind of linux. ubuntu just crashes/freezes on a purple screen with stack/call trace messages...
[19:22] <z3r0d3rp> logan
[19:22] <upset> z3r0d3rp: Anon, tag the guy you're talking to. Makes conversation easier.
[19:22] <upset> z3r0d3rp: As in every single time you say something
[19:22] <LABcrab> Hey people!  Happy Ubuntu day!  i can't make Unity auto-hide in 12.04 LTS though.  How is this done?
[19:22] <rahulwadh> L3top : and ubuntu 12.04 installer has stopped responding
[19:22] <upset> Fyodorovna: Me too, friend. Trying
[19:22] <Debolaz> Woohoo, full disk encryption + btrfs works again in Ubuntu. :)
[19:22] <zykotick9> !nomodeset | samster34 tried this? it's common with nvidia
[19:23] <Logan_> !ccsm | LABcrab
[19:23] <Dan-The-Man> LABcrab, install myunity from software center
[19:24] <samster34> ubottu: I've tried nomodeset, not sure if I did it properly though
[19:24] <samster34> >_>
[19:24] <z3r0d3rp> lol
[19:24] <IamKaiser> lol
[19:24] <zykotick9> !lol
[19:24] <xangua> where can i get ubuntu from torrent¿ i went to alternative downloads and it says 'Page not found'
[19:24] <z3r0d3rp> !derp
[19:24] <xangua> !alternate
[19:24] <Pici> !torrents | xangua
 thanks!
[19:24] <IamKaiser> http://releases.ubuntu.com/precise/ubuntu-12.04-desktop-amd64.iso.torrent
[19:24] <upset> Fyodorovna: Oh, whoops. Should I have cleaned out the drive before writing the iso to it?
[19:24] <arianit> z3r0d3rp, that button is not working. I think there are issues with the update manager. I'm running 11.10 btw. any way to enable release update via file editing
[19:25] <Dan-The-Man> tiago, anytime!
[19:25] <dforthman> Ok, so now my graphics card works, but there's a black bar on the right hand side. I'm looking for a solution now, but if anyone knows what's happening before I find out, please feel free to tell me.
[19:25] <LABcrab> Logan_ Dan-The-Man Which driver do i select for my laptop?  It gives me two choices.
[19:25] <tiago> I'm running with GNOME, didn't like Unity very much..
[19:25] <IamKaiser> Same here tiago
[19:25] <Logan_> LABcrab: Driver? What are the choices?
[19:25] <z3r0d3rp> arianit, the preferences dialog is hidden in the menus in your panel
[19:25] <L3top> rahulwadh: How do you know the ram is fine?
[19:25] <xangua> tiago: nonsense, unity uses gnome ;)
[19:25] <LABcrab> Logan_ One with posterior upgrades, the other without.
[19:25] <Fyodorovna> upset, Not sure if either clients build partitions, but a clean one is needed.
[19:26] <Logan_> LABcrab: Oh, for your AMD card in Additional Drivers?
[19:26] <Dan-The-Man> LABcrab, do the post release
[19:26] <upset> Fyodorobna: Okay. Redoing
[19:26] <rahulwadh> l3top when I entered the command "top" everything was fine
[19:26] <LABcrab> Logan_ Dan-The-Man Will this fix the Unity dock not hiding?
[19:26] <upset> Fyodorobna: Oh geez, there's no cancel button. Redoing in a while, I guess...
[19:27] <Dan-The-Man> LABcrab, wait what lol.  Just install myunity for that
[19:27] <Debolaz> I want to replace a specific file in ubuntu, and ensure that packages ignore it. Is that possible?
[19:27] <Dan-The-Man> Debolaz, yes
[19:27] <despr> anyway u can reconfigure xorg mouse and keyboard shizzle?
[19:27] <Logan_> LABcrab: No, that's different. Install CCSM or MyUnity, and then you can change the auto-hiding preferences.
[19:27] <L3top> rahulwadh: that does not mean your ram is functioning correctly, which is why the install menu has a specific utility to check the consistency of your RAM operation. TOP just tells you what is trying to be used by what, not how well, or efficiently it is doing it.
[19:27] <Dan-The-Man> Debolaz, just install what ever package and lock it with synaptic
[19:27] <jackbrownhf>  Does gogo6 IPv6 directly incapsulate IPv4 to IPv6 so client outside internet with IPv4 protocol can see me anyway?
[19:28] <rahulwadh> l3top what is the name of that utility?
[19:29] <LABcrab> Dan-The-Man Logan_: That wasn't necessary in 11.10 version.
[19:29] <L3top> !memtest86+ | rahulwadh
[19:29] <domedagen> Is there a way to check if 3D acceleration works?
[19:29] <Dan-The-Man> LABcrab, well this isnt 11.10
[19:29] <Dan-The-Man> LABcrab, haha
[19:29] <Logan_> LABcrab: Yes, it was a Canonical decision to make auto-hiding disabled by default in 12.04.
[19:29] <LABcrab> Logan_ And take up more screen real estate?
[19:30] <L3top> memtest86+  again... if you boot a live disk, it should be one of the options...
[19:30] <alphanum> in mirc, how do i open multiple channels with a single cmd?
[19:30] <z3r0d3rp> do unified menus disable hud or can they work together?
[19:30] <LABcrab> At the very least, let me right-click and auto-hide.  Windows has it, Mac has it...
[19:30] <hypn0> domedagen, install a 3d game :-/ like foobilliard
[19:30] <alphanum> is it /j ##aws && ##ubuntu
[19:30] <LABcrab> Won't it cause screen burn-in to see the dock all the time anyway?
[19:30] <Logan_> LABcrab: If you want a more extensible "dock," you can try Docky, for example.
[19:30] <goddard> how go the upgrade from 11.10 to 12.04?
[19:31] <goddard> Logan_: or awn
[19:31]  * alphanum is looking for vpn ami
[19:31] <goddard> awn has more features
[19:31] <dforthman> domedagen, glxgears will test your 3d acceleration
[19:31] <alphanum> ubuntu vpn ami
[19:31] <z3r0d3rp> screen burn is almost not possible with modern displays
[19:31] <donavan01> I was wondering if someone knew how to fix this issue... I use mutiple networks and for one of the networks I have to manually set the MTU to 1492 rather than auto.... the other networks seem to work fine with the auto setting... I can use the network manager to do this as it doesnt seem to actually change the MTU if I do a sudo ifconfig wlan0 mtu 1492 then it changes ... but if im not mistaken doesnt this change it for all co
[19:31] <z3r0d3rp> takes years and years
[19:31] <alphanum> what's awn?
[19:31] <hudeki> I don't have sound on flash? I can see application running in sound menu, but there is no sound. What to do?
 but it is not so neat.
[19:32] <mystblade9> Does setting up a dual boot do any damage to my hard disk? I've been dual-booting for years now but never stood still on whether it was safe or not.
[19:32] <z3r0d3rp> hudeki check mute?
[19:32] <alphanum> anyone keen on ec2?
[19:32] <Dan-The-Man> mystblade9, no of course not
[19:32] <Pici> alphanum: The folks in #ubuntu-server are
[19:32] <hudeki> It's not on mute
[19:32] <alphanum> tyvm.
[19:32] <InferiorHumanOrg> mystblade9: what made you think that was even possible ?
[19:33] <mystblade9> InferiorHumanOrg: I remember some minor damage from dual-booting but I think that was on a mac.
[19:33] <SafariMonkey> mystblade9, no mechanism I know of could cause that, except maybe double usage. :P
[19:33] <intrader> At the end of my rope - I used tomboy notes heavily in 10.10.  I need to restore my tomboy notes from a 10.10 backup. In the backup I find a .tomboy folder with all the notes and subfolders
[19:33] <mystblade9> How about not using Windows for a long time because you're constantly in Linux? Would that damage the Windows installation?
[19:33] <goddard> how go the upgrade from 11.10 to 12.04?
[19:33] <LABcrab> Who gets to vote on things like the Tomboy, the Dock, Banshee versus Rhythmbox, etc.
[19:34] <LABcrab> goddard: The only thing that changed is they force you to look at the dock all the time.
[19:34] <Pici> LABcrab: They're decided at UDS usually.
[19:34] <InferiorHumanOrg> it's not possible for dual booting to hurt a hard drive *physically* in any way
[19:34] <lindows> !help
[19:35] <BrianH> Anyone know how to bring back the "Other user" option in LightDM?
[19:35] <BrianH> I'm on 12.04
[19:35] <ojii> what can i do if my super key doesn't open the dash anymore?
[19:35] <mrapple> hello, i just rebooted my system and it's still not listening on my 4 other IPs. here's /etc/network/interfaces pastebin.com/dS0pw7Fk
[19:35] <mrapple> any clue what's going on?
[19:36] <goddard> LABcrab: its called MyUnity brotha
[19:37] <mystblade9> Pici: I am seriously impressed by Unity 5, but I have one question: Why did the team opt to go with Compiz? Isn't Compiz-Fusion unstable?
[19:37] <trism> BrianH: in /etc/lightdm/lightdm.conf add: greeter-show-manual-login=true
[19:38] <DanielConvissor> hi.  been using lucid for a while.  made a vm of precise for testing.  in precise, add-apt-repository does not exist.  should it be there by default or is there a utilities packge that needs installing?
[19:38] <Pici> mystblade9: Because Unity is built on compiz and we've been running with compiz-by-default on desktop installs for a while, its been rather stable for us.
[19:38] <Debolaz> Dan-The-Man: Thanks for the tip, it worked.
[19:38] <TheBlackDazed> DanielConvissor apt-add-repository
[19:38] <rafaelemento> hey guys.On my new 12.04 installation i want to install apps that reside on my 11.10 installation without having to download them.is that possible?
[19:38] <Pici> DanielConvissor: Make sure that you have the python-software-properties package installed.
[19:38] <lindows> Pici
[19:38] <Logan_> TheBlackDazed: One's an alias for the other.
[19:39] <BrianH> trism, awesome, thank you much! :)
[19:39] <lindows> were can i get rss feed news about ubuntu and put them on my bot ?
[19:39] <Debolaz> Compiz seems fairly stable now, my main problem with it the last few versions has mostly been memory leaks.
[19:39] <mystblade9> Pici: I thought Compiz was better to be left off if you wanted a truly stable system.
[19:39] <Debolaz> And it has been gradually improving.
[19:39] <Logan_> DanielConvissor: sudo apt-get install python-software-properties
[19:39] <retis> hi i am a new ubuntu user,suddenly i change my gnome login to xtream ,now i dont have any desktop or anything can anyone please help me how can i go back to genome normal login and desktop,suffering a lot...
[19:39] <DanielConvissor> TheBlackDazed: in lucid, they're add* and apt* are synonyms
[19:40] <TheBlackDazed> DanielConvissor: ah ok :)
[19:40] <DanielConvissor> np had to do a double take/check on that too
[19:40] <lindows> Pici were can i get rss feed news about ubuntu and put them on my bot ?
[19:40] <inashdeen> hi there, need help. i can run my HUD on 12.04, but it wont search anything
[19:40] <rahulwadh> l3top memtest84 is not present on the liveUSB
[19:40] <softcoder> hi, can anyone help with software-center writing reviews?
[19:40] <intrader> Why on earth Unity changes stuff?. I can' find a way to synchronize with ubuntu one. There is no edit menu in tomboy on unity.
[19:41] <softcoder> isong precise and it pops up with signing in and sits there forever
[19:41] <ambro718> Pidgin normally has a tray icon, but why don't I see it in Ubuntu? All there is is the "Messages" thing that has a "Pidgin" entry, which I can only click to bring up the main Pidgin window. With a tray icon, I can do stuff with two clicks less than by going through this messages thing.
[19:41] <arianit> z3r0d3rp, there are no menus on top for the update manager
[19:41] <L3top> what live usb rahulwadh
[19:42] <rahulwadh> l3top ubuntu 12.04
[19:42] <L3top> what release*
[19:42] <L3top> one moment... let me load one.
[19:42] <ubuntu> l3top precise
[19:42] <retis> can anyone please help me,i change my gnome to xtream, i am new linux user,i want to get back my gnome without reinstalling ubuntu again
[19:42] <DanielConvissor> Logan_, Pici: ding! thanks.
[19:42] <lindows> !rss
[19:42] <ubuntu> logout
[19:42] <DanielConvissor> seems like a good package to have installed by default.
[19:43] <inashdeen>  hi there, need help. i can run my HUD on 12.04, but it wont search anything
[19:43] <Logan_> DanielConvissor: No problem. :-)
[19:43] <ubuntu> is the searchj lens loaded
[19:43] <ubuntu> ???
[19:43] <ghabit> how to switch off ubuntu automatically?
[19:43] <ghabit> timer
[19:44] <retis> can anyone please help me,i change my gnome to xtream, i am new linux user,i want to get back my gnome without reinstalling ubuntu again
[19:44] <samster34> don't suppose it would be as easy as "wait(3000); shutdown;" ?
[19:44] <ambro718> How do I prevent Ubuntu from overwriting my bootloader whenever it updates Grub or something?
[19:44] <upset> Fyodorobna: Oh God, I accidentally tried to write to a nonexistent drive.
[19:44] <samster34> upset: what happened
[19:44] <Fyodorovna> upset, lol it happens.
[19:44] <rodd> I'm running 10.04 lts and I see no "An upgrade is available" message in the update manager, any ideas on what's going on? Maybe I should wait a bit more?
[19:45] <Fyodorovna> ambro718, why?
[19:45] <L3top> ffs rahulwadh. Third option. "Test memory"
[19:45] <ambro718> I use Grub2 installed from Gentoo as my bootloaded, and boot Ubuntu by loading its menu using the configfile grub2 command.
[19:45] <rahulwadh> l3top how to do that?
[19:45] <L3top> insert live disk.
[19:45] <DanielConvissor> retis: using desktop?  on my machine on the password screen (when i pick the user / enter the user name and hit enter) the bottom of the screen offers a choice of which windows manager to use.
[19:45] <intrader> where on earth is the edit-->preferences in tomboy on unity?
[19:45] <softcoder> can nayone help me?
[19:45] <upset> samster34 Fyodorovna: I did dd to a drive that doesn't exist. It said it 0 bytes written, but then I got a notification about an upgrade drive I had!
[19:45] <Fyodorovna> ambro718, is gentoo grub legacy?
[19:46] <retis> rodd, you can try apt-get update from terminal it may help you
[19:46] <softcoder> software-center, writing reviews signing in just sits there forever
[19:46] <yeik> retis, rodd, i believe apt-get update and apt-get dist-upgrade work
[19:47] <rodd> retis, yeik, tried both still nothing
[19:47] <ActionParsnip> wow, only 1800 users, not bad
[19:47] <L3top> insert live disk. Turn on machine, choose test memory... I mean... all I have in front of me is a kubuntu 1204, but it can't be that different. I have never seen an ubuntu startup disk where it wasn't an option rahulwadh.
[19:47] <rodd> "Your system is up to date"
[19:47] <intrader> where on earth is the edit-->preferences in tomboy on unity? - man this is unintuitive. The edit menu appears when the tomboy window is maximized
[19:47] <alkisg> What does this part of the 12.04 changelog mean? Any specific links/references?  "networking improvements for congested networks"
[19:47] <retis> DanielConvissor, actually i changed the login option and put xtream just to experiment and having this....
[19:47] <ron> any idea why when I ctrl+alt+f2 to a different console window, I see.. well, nothing?
[19:48] <simonpe^^> Any bash guru? I need to run a script every N second until a certain time of day, i.e 14:08. How can I test for this{
[19:48] <ambro718> Fyodorovna: I use gentoo grub2, so it all works fine. I just added a menu entry that shows up Ubuntu's boot menu (configfile command); this means that in the boot menu, I have an "Ubuntu" entry which brings me to the Ubuntu boot menu; it works because Ubuntu uses grub2 too. The only problem is whenever Ubuntu updates, it overwrites the MBR, so it goes straight to the Ubuntu boot menu and I can't boot Gentoo.
[19:48] <ActionParsnip> intrader: report a bug then. Is it not in the right click menu on the icon i the system tray (if it has one)
[19:48] <retis> rodd, try with sudo apt-get install
[19:48] <MonkeyDust> retis  don't have to mind if you don't need it
[19:48] <Enalicho> Unity? Unintuitive? Impossible, it's perfect. :P
[19:48] <retis> MonkeyDust, i dont know how to go back now
[19:49] <rahulwadh> l3top my compter's CD drive doesn't work
[19:49] <Inframundo> hola
[19:49] <kernelqubit> is there a magnifier included in the 12.04 live cd? Ubuntu/gnome/orca/gnome-mag docs aren't clear
[19:49] <retis> MonkeyDust, i have only one terminal in my desktop and nothing,i want gnome back,can you please help me
[19:49] <Fyodorovna> ambro718, I wondered if there was a conflict with the grub 2 in ubuntu not booting gentoo, grub can probably be locked down in synaptic to not upgrade.
[19:49] <softcoder> is this the place for ubuntu precise help???
[19:49] <ox1d3> i get this error on boot: No init found. try passing init= bootarg.
[19:49] <ox1d3> busybox v1.13.3 (ubuntu 1:1.13.3-ubuntu11) built in shell (ash)
[19:49] <ox1d3> enter 'help' for a list of built-in commands.
[19:49] <ox1d3> (initramfs) [  3.060259 ieee1394: host added: id:bus[0-00:1023] GUID[000ae4aaaa27c398]
[19:49] <FloodBot1> ox1d3: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[19:49] <ox1d3> someone said i need to reinstall from a livecd
[19:49] <urgodfather> can someone help me figure out why windows is missing on grub all of a sudden
[19:49] <ox1d3> how do i do that?
[19:50] <Fyodorovna> ambro718, you just have to install synaptic now.
[19:50] <L3top> rahulwadh: I can't help you if your machine is just 10 shades of busted. My guess is your RAM is bad. If you have some more laying around, swap it out.
[19:50] <alphanum> Sorry guys, but I have to ask.
[19:50] <kvm> I dont suppose I can ditch the unity launcher in favor of another dock without giving up dash/hud?
[19:50] <alphanum> Where can I get more help with ec2?
[19:50] <bigdots> this community is full of whore and ass-holes stuck up
[19:50] <alphanum> ubuntu-server isn't alive.
[19:50] <ambro718> Fyodorovna: thanks, will try
[19:50] <Fyodorovna> kvm, have you looked at gnome 3?
[19:51] <zeta-> I can't upgrade to 12.04 :-( -- Is the server a bit busy?
[19:51] <bigdots> ubuntu is for bitches. long live windows
[19:51] <alphanum> !kb bigdots
[19:51] <Logan_> alphanum: #ubuntu-server
[19:51] <Logan_> !ops | bigdots
[19:51] <kvm> Fyodorovna: yeah, its actually my usual.. thought I'd give unity a whirl since the hud is rather unique
[19:52] <hudeki> I'm having lenovo laptop.  Simple question is 64 od 32 bit? is there a difference in therms of battery?
[19:52] <alphanum> Ubuntu-server is dead :(((
[19:52] <goddard> how go the upgrade from 11.10 to 12.04?
[19:52] <DanielConvissor> hudeki: shouldn't be difference.  i'm running ubuntu 64 laptop np.
[19:52] <L3top> No hudeki.
[19:52] <yano> hudeki: you'd have to check the specs of the processor to find out if it is 64 bit or 32 bit
[19:52] <Logan_> hudeki: I'd recommend installing what's marked as recommended at http://www.ubuntu.com/download/desktop.
[19:52] <retis> can any one please tell me how can i set up genome desktop from terminal,accidentally i changed it to xtream and now want to get back gnome,i am new in ubuntu
[19:53] <hudeki> it's 64 bit processor
[19:53] <L3top> hudeki: I should say there shouldn't be
[19:53] <Logan_> Although, oddly enough, it recommends 32-bit for me.
[19:53] <khmerog> ubuntu is 11.10 is draining my atom N450 battery faster than windows 7 starter
[19:53] <khmerog> my netbook
[19:53] <Logan_> khmerog: Try upgrading to 12.04.
[19:54] <samster34> what does "2 beeps" mean in non-descript generic prebuilt motherboard language?
[19:55] <khmerog> 12.04 not out until next week  i heard
[19:55] <_ruben> came out today
[19:55] <hudeki> OMG after upgrading ould not open file /var/lib/dpkg/ is gone :)
[19:55] <Pici> samster34: Try ##hardware for questions about hardware
[19:55] <khmerog> ohh cool!!
[19:55] <khmerog> thanks ruben
[19:55] <retis> can any one please tell me how can i set up genome desktop from terminal,accidentally i changed it to xtream and now want to get back gnome,i am new in ubuntu
[19:55] <L3top> samster34: short beeps or long beeps
[19:56] <airlynx> how do I collect a backtrace if apport crashes along with xfce?  ps x displays almost nothing after the crash but I am able to operate in tty mode.  There is nothing listed in /var/crash.  I am using 12.04
[19:56] <samster34> L3top: short, I think
[19:56] <khmerog> is there a way tp update to 1204? or do i have to dowload and partition and install all over again?
[19:56] <samster34> my guess would be it relates to VGA issues, since I get no picture...the card used to work fine though
[19:56] <khmerog> i am using 11.10
[19:56] <Logan_> khmerog: Just open up Update Manager.
[19:57] <Ubun2to> Why is the 12.04 live DVD download not online?
[19:57] <L3top> either parity short or memory problem samster34. I mean... depends on the bios... but typically it is memory
[19:57] <Pici> Ubun2to: it is.
[19:57] <Ubun2to> Not for me.
[19:57] <zeta-> samster34: Have you tried just reseating the card?
[19:57] <IsharaComix> Hey all: I've installed 11.04, but now it's hanging on bootup. I turned off "quiet splash" so I could see where it's hanging. It refuses to boot, hanging on the error "b43-phy0 ERROR: Firmware file "b43/ucode5.fw" not found. Any ideas on how to get grub to ignore this error?
[19:57] <samster34> zeta-: once
[19:57] <L3top> *generic memory problem
[19:57] <urgodfather> nevermind i got it
[19:57] <IsharaComix> *12.04
[19:57] <naftilos76> hi everyone, i am on ubuntu 10.10 and having a slight issue with thunderbird while using IMAP. A non-existant folder appears in thunderbird when i create an account. I try to delete it and i get a msg that this folder does not exist on the server side. If i delete it in the local file tree under .thunderbird/...... it appears again after a restart of thunderbird. Can anybody help?
[19:57] <Logan_> Ubun2to: http://www.ubuntu.com/download/desktop
[19:57] <TheBlackDazed> Hi Guys? Post-Upgrade my alt-key is gone. No events from the Window Manager under KDE. Any ideas how to fix that problem?
[19:58] <samster34> L3top: I just ran a complete RAM test a while ago
[19:58] <Pici> Ubun2to: see cdimage.ubuntu.com/releases/12.04/release/ or http://torrent.ubuntu.com:6969
[19:58] <zeta-> samster34: I have found that can fix a card that has moved
[19:58] <Ubun2to> Pici: not working for me http://mirror.anl.gov/pub/ubuntu-iso/DVDs/ubuntu/12.04/release/   http://mirror.anl.gov/pub/ubuntu-iso/DVDs/ubuntu/12.04/release/ubuntu-12.04-dvd-i386.iso
[19:58] <samster34> zeta-: well I only just out it in this box to begin with
[19:59] <LABcrab> Hey Ubuntu!  Whoever told me to use MyUnity, it's not launching!  i also don't see the point.  Why not just have an auto-hide setting from the command line or something?
[19:59] <L3top> Memory error will not display anything samster34... though it could be a VGA no output error depending on bios also
[19:59] <Logan_> LABcrab: I recommended CCSM. Install CompizConfig Settings Manager from Ubuntu Software Center.
[20:00] <samster34> why would there be a memory error all of a sudden when it worked a few weeks ago, and hasn't been touched since
[20:00] <L3top> samster34: typically a vga bad beep is one long two short iirc
[20:00] <spikebike> is the 12.04 release identical to beta2?  I ran apt-get update, apt-get upgrade, as well as do-release-upgrade -d with nothing new offered
[20:00] <khmerog> thanks LOGAN_
[20:01] <xangua> !beta | spikebike
[20:01] <Logan_> No problem, khmerog.
[20:01] <spikebike> xangua: heh, yeah, as I mentioned I did all that
[20:01] <spikebike> xangua: and the release is out and I got zilch
[20:02] <intrader> Is there a channel specific to unity, or to tomboy - I am not getting anywhere here, Pissed!
[20:02] <khmerog> is the creator of ubuntu also made lubuntu?
[20:02] <assurbanipal> hi guys i m having problems with installing gnome-shell extensions all day, just doesn't work.can someone help?
[20:02] <Logan_> intrader: #ubuntu-unity
[20:02] <saschakb> intrader: #ubuntu-unity
[20:03] <airlynx> I'm having a problem with XFCE crashing when I plug in certain USB devices, but I can't seem to find a crash log or backtrace anywhere in 12.04, can anyone help me?
[20:03] <thebigbang> welcome
[20:03] <thebigbang> i am  thebigbang
[20:03] <khmerog> ok
[20:03] <nicon`> Is here anyone using GTS450 NVIDIA on new Kubuntu?
[20:04] <benqu> hello
[20:04] <LABcrab> Logan_: That is a scary tool for an average user like some of my friends, but thanks!  :)
[20:04] <nicon`> On 11.10 it was working fine, on nvidia drivers and nouveau.
[20:04] <ox1d3> how do i reinstall from thie boot message: No init found. try passing init= bootarg.
[20:04] <ox1d3> busybox v1.13.3 (ubuntu 1:1.13.3-ubuntu11) built in shell (ash)
[20:04] <ox1d3> enter 'help' for a list of built-in commands.
[20:04] <ox1d3> (initramfs) [  3.060259 ieee1394: host added: id:bus[0-00:1023] GUID[000ae4aaaa27c398]
[20:04] <FloodBot1> ox1d3: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[20:04] <tiago> A question, there's no problem in installing KDE AND XFCE in Ubuntu 12.04? I'm running it with GNOME 3.4.
[20:04] <samster34> reseated vga, and ram, still two beeps
[20:04] <nicon`> On 12.04 I've got resolution 640x480 on nvidia drivers, 1024x768 on nouveau.
[20:04] <indermuehle> i'm trying to mount mac smb shares to ubuntu server and its giving me "mount error(22): Invalid argument"; can anyone help?
[20:04] <Logan_> tiago: Should be fine. sudo apt-get install kubuntu-desktop for KDE and sudo apt-get install xubuntu-desktop for XFCE.
[20:05] <benqu> anyone knows about adio ?
[20:05] <Logan_> !anyone | benqu
[20:05] <thebigbangass> Hello
[20:05] <thebigbangass> anybody there
[20:05] <thebigbangass> for helping me
[20:05] <Logan_> !ask | thebigbangass
[20:05] <irenicus09> thebigbangass: im there whats the problem :P
[20:05] <thebigbangass> i burned ubuntu 11.10 iso on CD
[20:06] <Rovanion> When I log in after my recent upgrade to 12.04 I get: System tray is unavavailable, quitting. And then the session is stuck at a blue screen.
[20:06] <finish06> has anyone upgraded from 11.11 to 12.04 via terminal?  if so, did anything break?
[20:06] <leagris> Hello, how to I make compiz ezoom zoming the unity launcher?
[20:06] <thebigbangass> And now want to install but does not work
[20:06] <thebigbangass> i burned ubuntu 11.11 iso on CD
[20:06] <irenicus09> Rovanion: blue screen of death?
[20:06] <thebigbangass> And now want to install but does not work
[20:06] <samster34> wow, I forgot the extra pci-e power plug. this hasnt happened to me before
[20:06] <Rovanion> irenicus09: No, a blue background
[20:06] <leagris> Hello, how do I make the app menu properly zomed in compiz ezoom ?
[20:06] <thebigbangass> meeeeeeee no help
[20:06] <thebigbangass> but why???
[20:06] <Scott99> .
[20:06] <scar3crow> if I choose to install the server edition it will give me no GIU, right? and to get one I type: sudo apt-get install ubuntu-desktop. am I correct?
[20:06] <benqu> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1965562 here is my problem.
[20:06] <irenicus09> thebigbangass: have patience man.
[20:07] <leagris> How do I get ride of Unity alltogather ?
[20:07] <intrader> thebigbangass, I think they will ignore you if you are not specific.
[20:07] <indermuehle> what am i doing wrong when I mount mac smb shares to ubuntu server with cifs and its giving me "mount error(22): Invalid argument"
[20:07] <Scott99> Why can't I speak in #oracle, the mode is set to +nt
[20:07] <Rovanion> scar3crow: Yes.
[20:07] <scar3crow> tyvm
[20:07] <thebigbangass> i burned ubuntu 11.11 iso on CD
[20:07] <thebigbangass> And now want to install but does not work
[20:07] <irenicus09> thebigbangass: I understand u burned the cd but did u choose the slowest write speed?
[20:07] <intrader> thebigbangass, I think they will ignore you if you are not specific. What does not work
[20:07] <thebigbangass> yes
[20:07] <thebigbangass> if i am doing restart
[20:07] <thebigbangass> it tells me please insert a cd
[20:08] <zeta-> samster34: fixed it ?
[20:08] <thebigbangass> from my bio
[20:08] <thebigbangass> bios
[20:08] <FloodBot1> thebigbangass: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[20:08] <ActionParsnip> leagris: install a different shell, or a different DE like XFCE or KDE etc
 thanks! I'll try it!
[20:08] <thebigbangass> it tells me please insert a cd from my BIOS!
[20:08] <irenicus09> thebigbangass: did u change the bios settings to boot dvd/cd first?
[20:08] <scar3crow> Rovanion: will I get ythe actual server kernel/image if I install server?
[20:08] <thebigbangass> yes sure
[20:08] <thebigbangass> it checks cd but says no cd in there!
[20:09] <Logan_> tiago: No problem. :-)
[20:09] <thebigbangass> No it isnt. the cd lays on my table next to me
[20:09] <irenicus09> thebigbangass: did u check the md5sum of the downloaded iso?
[20:09] <thebigbangass> yes sure i di
[20:09] <thebigbangass> *did
[20:09] <ActionParsnip> thebigbangass: did you MD5 test the ISO you burned? Did you burn as slow as possible? Does the CD drive get detected in BIOS?
[20:09] <thebigbangass> CD drive is detected and MD5 is right
[20:09] <thebigbangass> I burne slowest (8x)
[20:09] <ActionParsnip> thebigbangass: do you have multiple CD drives?
[20:09] <Rovanion> scar3crow: I have no idea if there is a difference in kernel between the two, so I wouldn't know.
[20:09] <thebigbangass> no only one
[20:09] <thebigbangass> i meant 4x
[20:10] <Rovanion> When I log in after my recent upgrade to 12.04 I get: System tray is unavavailable, quitting. And then the session is stuck at a blue screen.
[20:10] <ActionParsnip> thebigbangass: does the CD spin up when you put it in?
[20:10] <scar3crow> Rondom: k ty
[20:10] <Dark_Apostrophe> Hello, I just upgraded to 12.04. My keyboard layout has been reset to enUS
[20:10] <thebigbangass> ActionParsnip: but it in? where in? what do you mean by that
[20:10] <Dark_Apostrophe> I changed it back to what it should be in System Settings, yet apps start in enUS anyway
[20:10] <ActionParsnip> thebigbangass: when you put the CD in the tray, does the CD spin up?
[20:10] <LABcrab> Goodbye!
[20:10] <irenicus09> thebigbangass: well...why dont u try burning another one  :P
[20:11] <thebigbangass> ActionParsnip where putting in??
[20:11] <thebigbangass> ActionParsnip  the cd lays near me as i told before: [22:09] <thebigbangass> No it isnt. the cd lays on my table next to me
[20:11] <ActionParsnip> thebigbangass: to boot the CD you need to putit in the CD drive...
[20:11] <scar3crow> speaking of which.... how to burn @ 2X?
[20:11] <irenicus09> thebigbangass: or u could burn iso into your usb if u have one..
[20:11] <thebigbangass> has the CD to be in the dvd drive ??
[20:11] <L3top> troll
[20:12] <flipp_> does wubi works well with windows 7 and ubuntu 12.04 or are there some boot problems still like in 10.10?
[20:12] <irenicus09> L3top: smells like troll lol.
[20:12] <thebigbangass> has the CD to be in the dvd drive ??
[20:12] <leagris> How would you rate accessibility within ubuntu?
[20:12] <tehowe_> Hmn, if anyone's in Toronto I've burned a bunch of copies at the Linux Caffe (Grace/Harbord). Nobody's shown up in response to postering so I'm sure there'll be lots of copies here for the taking.
[20:13] <intrader> ActionParsnip, what are your dealing with here - insering CD LOL
[20:13] <samster34> "BusyBox v1.18.5 (Buntu 1:1.18.5-1ubuntu4) built-in shell (ash)"  this means nomodeset worked, right?
[20:13] <irenicus09> ActionParsnip: insert n eject cd
[20:13] <thebigbangass> please tell me have i put in the cd or not???
[20:13] <JessicaW> looking for help with mounting a windows share on linux... Need someone with magic fingers. Was working now isn't. Getting Status code returned 0xc000006d NT_STATUS_LOGON_FAILURE. was working now isn't. Nothing has changed.
[20:13] <leagris> How would you consider accessibility issues with compiz eZoom and Unity getting no answer and no help for more than a year now?
[20:13] <donavan01> I have a bug with the network manager ... it wont actually change the ifconfig information ... anyone else have this problem
[20:13] <thebigbangass> I thought it was burned the iso on HDD !!!
[20:14] <Dark_Apostrophe> I've upgraded to 12.04 and my keyboard layout has been changed to enUS. I use a Norwegian keyboard. In System Settings, it says it is Norwegian, yet all programs that start do so with the enUS layout
[20:14] <Dark_Apostrophe> Can anyone please help me?
[20:14] <zeta-> thebigbangass: only the hole from the middle of your CD should be in the drive
[20:14] <LjL> thebigbangass: this is not the place for trolling
[20:14] <leagris> What other more visually impaired friendly distribution would you recommend rather than Ubuntu where nobody cares?
[20:14] <thebigbangass> i thought ISO is burned on hDD
[20:14] <benqu> Does anyone has time to help me whit audio problem?
[20:14] <ziyadb> Is the FF12 package available yet?
[20:14] <thebigbangass> so  i do not need inserting cd
[20:14] <LjL> thebigbangass: well, you were wrong. if you burn an ISO to a CD, it gets burned to the CD. now insert the CD and install.
[20:15] <ambro718> how do I update Chromium to the latest version (18.0.1025.162)? Currently it's stuck on .151.
[20:15] <L3top> No... 12.04 installs by osmosis. It must simply be near by. If your bed is more than 4 ft away try putting it closer.
[20:15] <thebigbangass> LjL and why i downloaded the iso if i have got a cd ??
[20:15] <thebigbangass> ?
[20:15] <qEssence> Hello.
[20:15] <LjL> thebigbangass: i don't know, why did you?
[20:15] <alien64> lol
[20:15] <samster34> "BusyBox v1.18.5 (Buntu 1:1.18.5-1ubuntu4) built-in shell (ash)"  this means nomodeset worked, right?
[20:15] <irenicus09> L3top: nice one lol
[20:15] <flipp_> !wubi windows7 12.04
[20:15] <thebigbangass> I downloaded and burned it on free CD
[20:16] <MonkeyDust> thebigbangass  very good, now reboot from the cd
[20:16] <Logan_> ambro718: .151 is the current version in the repository. You'll have to wait for .162 to be packaged for Ubuntu, or you can compile it yourself. ;-)
[20:16] <alien64> !wubi
[20:16] <ActionParsnip> ambro718: what is the output of:  lsb_release -sc
[20:16] <thebigbangass> MonkeyDust: has the cd to be in the disk drive when booting from it ???
[20:16] <L3top> thebigbangass: an iso is a CD image. You burn the image to the cd, and then boot to it.
[20:16] <flipp_> alien64 does wubi worls well with w7 and 12.04?
[20:16] <rogst> When I turn the blur setting to off in the myunity dash options the background of the window switcher is missing, and the keyboard shortcut helper that shows when holding down the super key is also missing its background
[20:17] <alien64> flipp: no clue never tried
[20:17] <MonkeyDust> thebigbangass  yes, obviously
[20:17] <ziyadb> Is the FF12 package available yet?
[20:17] <flipp_> k thx
[20:17] <samster34> my keyboard doesn't work in the built-in shell..."device not accepting address 8, 9, 10", "unable to enumerate usb device on port 10"
[20:17] <ActionParsnip> ziyadb: via PPA, probably
[20:17] <flipp_> btw http://wubi-installer.org/support.php from !wubi is 404
[20:17] <qEssence> Well.. new user here, having a issue with insallation: In the first screen of the proccess, where the top bar loads and you see the desktop, no dialog is being showed, instead of this the circle mouse pointer of loading is frozen, and, although i can move the mouse, nothing at all hapens, tested this for hours.
[20:17] <qEssence> anyone having theese issues?
[20:17] <ziyadb> ActionParsnip: yeah. makes sense.
[20:18] <qEssence> Or, knows how to hndle it?
[20:18] <ziyadb> thank you.
[20:18] <ActionParsnip> qEssence: what GPU do you use?
[20:18] <alien64> flipp: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Wubi
[20:18] <qEssence> nVidia, but it does not seems to be a GPU problem.
[20:18] <samster34> help :( my keyboard doesn't work in the built-in shell..."device not accepting address 8, 9, 10", "unable to enumerate usb device on port 10"
[20:18] <L3top> qEssence: You might have a bad burn on the cd image. Check the md5 sum against the one listed for your image.
[20:19] <FlimFlamMan> would it be faster for me to upgrade from the last pangolin beta and then update with apt?  i'm showing about 9 hours remaining on my download.
[20:19] <ActionParsnip> qEssence: add the boot option:  nouveau.blacklist=1    should help
[20:19] <jrib> FlimFlamMan: use a local miror
[20:19] <NurseDad> qEssence: did you run it a s live session first
[20:19] <qEssence> Yes, forbog to mention it, i've already tested that, md5 is ok, and i have burned it twice at 4x.
[20:19] <jrib> mirror even
[20:19] <ActionParsnip> ambro718: if you can give the output of the command, I can advise
[20:19] <L3top> qEssence: take ActionParsnip's advice over mine
[20:19] <qEssence> no NurseDad .
[20:19] <ambro718> ActionParsnip: precise; I guess I'll just have to wait
[20:19] <Untouchab1e> anyone know how the guest account feature in ubuntu is implemented?
[20:19] <Kircle> Guys I'm still downloading the updates for 12.04. If I cancel the update will I be able to resume downloading the fies when I next try to update?
[20:19] <ActionParsnip> ambro718: not at all ;)
[20:20] <alien64> FlimFlamMan thats less than 30kbs
[20:20] <qEssence> Ok, i'll test that, thanks for the tip guys. :)
[20:20] <assurbanipal> hi guys i m having problems with installing gnome-shell extensions all day, just doesn't work.can someone help?
[20:20] <ActionParsnip> ambro718: sudo add-apt-repository ppa:chromium-daily/stable; sudo apt-get update; sudo apt-get upgrade
[20:20] <L3top> What is your specific question Untouchab1e
[20:20] <Untouchab1e> Im trying to get the same thing in OpenSUSE.. for now Ive just discovered that the guest account in ubuntu is has its home directory created in the /tmp/ folder. which is easy to get working, but not sure how to implementing deletion of the home folder upon logout (or login)
[20:20] <ActionParsnip> ambro718: works here ;)
[20:21] <Musaab> would there be any reason I am not getting the shortcut overlay
[20:21] <Musaab> ?
[20:21] <FlimFlamMan> alien64: i'm connected via a university network, i imagine the bottleneck is upstream...
[20:21] <MonkeyDust> ambro718  the chromium daily build ruined my system, some ubuntu versions ago, hope you know what you're doing
[20:21] <ActionParsnip> Musaab: do you mean the unity bar, on theleft?
[20:21] <Untouchab1e> L3top: Ubuntu does it perfectly, but there is no such feature in OpenSUSE, so I would have to make it myself somehow
[20:21] <Musaab> no
[20:21] <Musaab> the big overlay that has all the shortcuts listed
[20:21] <ActionParsnip> Musaab: what happens when you press SuperL (aka 'windows key')
[20:22] <Hubarz> hi
[20:22] <ambro718> ActionParsnip: thanks, it's updating.
[20:22] <ActionParsnip> MonkeyDust: just for a browser, very weird
[20:22] <alien64> FlimFlamMan: humm yeah at the ubuntu servers lol
[20:22] <Musaab> ActionParsnip, the unity launcher comes out and the numbers appear
[20:22] <ActionParsnip> ambro718: if you read the text, you can see the version number ;)
[20:22] <Hubarz> can someone give me the original md5sum for Ubuntu 12.04 LTS 64 bit desktop?
[20:22] <intrader> Is there a channel specific to unity, or to tomboy - I am not getting anywhere here, Pissed!
[20:22] <ambro718> MonkeyDust: ruined your system? that's hard to believe
[20:23] <Logan_> intrader: You asked that already. It's #ubuntu-unity.
[20:23] <irenicus09> Hubarz: it is available on the download site itself
[20:23] <MonkeyDust> ambro718  had to reinstall ubuntu, due to that PPA
[20:23] <jschall> how are the update servers doing?
[20:23] <JessicaW> looking for help with mounting a windows share on linux... Was working now isn't. Getting Status code returned 0xc000006d NT_STATUS_LOGON_FAILURE.
[20:23] <scar3crow> servers arre slooooooooooooooooow
[20:23] <jschall> bah.
[20:23] <ActionParsnip> Hubarz: http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/releases/precise/release/MD5SUMS
[20:23] <scar3crow> 49k
[20:23] <FlimFlamMan> :-)
[20:23] <jschall> they need better servers :(
[20:24] <MonkeyDust> scar3crow  ubuntu is very popular, the servers are very busy
[20:24] <ActionParsnip> scar3crow: try using apt-fast ;)
[20:24] <LjL> ... or fewer people frantically downloading on release day :P
[20:24] <L3top> I think I misunderstood your question Untouchab1e. I thought you were looking for how the temporary users work on live disks
[20:24] <Hubarz> my .iso is corrupted :(
[20:24] <scar3crow> ty action
[20:24] <ActionParsnip> JessicaW: are you connecting using nautilus?
[20:24] <ActionParsnip> Hubarz: use torrents
[20:24] <JessicaW> nope
[20:24] <Untouchab1e> L3top: Im just trying to get the same functionality in OpenSUSE :)
[20:24] <jschall> there should be an apt-get based on torrents
[20:24] <jschall> that'd be cool
[20:24] <FlimFlamMan> is it possible to upgrade from the 12.04 beta cd, then update packages later to get fully upgraded without downloading a bunch of stuff?
[20:24] <JessicaW> ActionParsnip: this is from the command line.
[20:24] <jschall> probably too much overhead for small packages, though
[20:25] <ActionParsnip> jschall: apt-fast uses 3 sources
[20:25] <Estragon> can I easily upgrade from a 32 to a 64 bits ubuntu without losing data ?
[20:25] <L3top> scar3crow: jschall: the servers have been throttled purposefully because of the volume of traffic on release day. If you can wait a day or two it will not be this way.
[20:25] <ActionParsnip> JessicaW: do you have a desktop UI?
[20:25] <MonkeyDust> Estragon  backup and fresh install
[20:25] <zeta-> can I upgrade while chatting on irc?
[20:25] <ox1de> on boot I get this message: No init found. try passing init= bootarg.
[20:25] <ox1de> busybox v1.13.3 (ubuntu 1:1.13.3-ubuntu11) built in shell (ash)
[20:25] <ox1de> enter 'help' for a list of built-in commands.
[20:25] <ox1de> (initramfs) [  3.060259 ieee1394: host added: id:bus[0-00:1023] GUID[000ae4aaaa27c398]
[20:25] <FloodBot1> ox1de: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[20:25] <ox1de> how do i reinstall or fix it?
[20:25] <ActionParsnip> Estragon: you'll need to reinstall.
[20:25] <Bennlucky7> 128f0c16f4734c420b0185a492d92e52 *ubuntu-12.04-desktop-amd64.iso
[20:25] <Estragon> thanks MonkeyDust & ActionParsnip
[20:25] <ActionParsnip> Estragon: its not an upgrade to change architecture
[20:25] <jschall> ActionParsnip: i'd rather not use anything that could mess it up
[20:25] <ActionParsnip> Estragon: you should have a backup if your data is important
[20:26] <alien64> getting alot of corrupt iso's and wasted dload time someone needs to fix that :) hint hint ...
[20:26] <ActionParsnip> jschall: it's just apt-get + axel
[20:26] <heckman> alien64: use torrents
[20:26] <L3top> Untouchab1e: if you are indeed talking about the temporary users, I do not believe that a folder is created in Home, firstly. Nor am I familiar with Suse enough to know if it can set a single session nopass user like ubuntu does.
[20:26] <Hubarz> is there a list of all aviavible mirrors?
[20:26] <ActionParsnip> alien64: use torrents
[20:26] <JessicaW> ActionParsnip: yes but I've only rarely used it.
[20:26] <scar3crow> ok thanks for the fyi.... I'm backing up my data from a wubi install for a direct install.... very impressed with the release, btw (ty devs)
[20:26] <samster34> help, I can't run the live version or install ubuntu, seems like a video problem, but when I try to boot into the shell with nomodeset, my keyboard doesn't work and I can't do anything
[20:26] <heckman> Is there an echo in here?
[20:26] <JessicaW> ActionParsnip: it's been mounting fine with sudo mount -t smbfs //server/D$ /mount -o user=samba,pass=password,dir_mode=0775,gid=1009,noperm
[20:26] <borillion> ActionParsnip, In a bit of a pickle http://www.adobe.com/svg/viewer/install/svgtest.html#sidenavend
[20:26] <heckman> :p
[20:26] <Estragon> I have backup of important data, but reinstalling every software and configuration will be painful
[20:26] <Untouchab1e> L3top: the home folder is placed in /tmp indeed, or at least thats what Ive read
[20:26] <Fyodorovna> Hubarz, software sources has a mirror list
[20:26] <ActionParsnip> JessicaW: in nautilus you can connect to servers and specify usernames and paswords there
[20:26] <L3top> ahh... yes sorry. this is correct Untouchab1e
[20:27] <Bennlucky7> Hubarz: http://releases.ubuntu.com/precise/MD5SUMS
[20:27] <JessicaW> ActionParsnip: I ran a security update last night and rebooted and now can't connect.
[20:27] <Untouchab1e> L3top: phew, haha
[20:27] <alien64> im not upgrading just yet but torrent info is good for those who are
[20:27] <FlimFlamMan> if i cancel the upgrade, will the downloads i've gotten so far be kept for when i run it again?
[20:27] <JessicaW> ActionParsnip: nautilus. is that like a graphical explorer or something?
[20:27] <L3top> Untouchab1e: The /tmp dir is cleared every time a boot happens.
[20:27] <mrsuchyPL> hi
[20:27] <NurseDad> qEssence: is the live dvd working
[20:27] <samster34> my keyboard doesn't work when I boot into the shell, what do I do?
[20:28] <alien64> the real problem is ubuntu needs to fix what they didnt get right :)
[20:28] <ox1de> can anybody help?
[20:28] <Untouchab1e> L3top: oh, really? Thought it was on reboot only... woulndt that mean that if my guest user's home folder is in /tmp/, then it would clear out on logoff automatically?
[20:28] <qEssence> i have not tried that NurseDad, sorry, im going to test the nouveau.blacklist=1 option, and see what happens.
[20:28] <bc``> hi
[20:28] <Untouchab1e> L3top: oops, misread you
[20:28] <borillion> can anyone see this http://www.adobe.com/svg/viewer/install/svgtest.html#sidenavendv ?
[20:28] <Untouchab1e> you cleary said boot, not login :P
[20:28] <Untouchab1e> or logout, haha
[20:28] <intrader> Is there a channel specific to unity, or to tomboy - I am not getting anywhere here, Pissed!
[20:28] <alien64> spend 9 hrs dloading a bad iso is bull
[20:28] <bc``> i just popped in a usb drive
[20:28] <bc``> where on earth would i find that mounted?
[20:29] <NurseDad> bc: /media
[20:29] <NurseDad> i think
[20:29] <ambro718> JessicaW: it's a file manager + draws the desktop and desktop icons (the latter can be disabled after some googling)
[20:29] <L3top> bc``:  checl /media
[20:29] <bc``> i love you
[20:29] <bc``> i think
[20:29] <L3top> check*
[20:29] <bc``> only thing showing there is /cdrom
[20:29] <Bennlucky7> FlimFlamMan its okay u dont have to worry it will continue update again last file
[20:30] <JessicaW> ActionParsnip: I"m running 10.04. I think it's thunar file manager or something
[20:30] <alien64> bc``:  open file manager see if its there
[20:30] <ActionParsnip> alien64: could add the torrent, then kil the torrent client. Copy in the file you have then rerun the client. It may repair the file (or delete it and redownload). Torrents will go faster as it uses the user base and not the Ubuntu servers which are VERY busy
[20:30] <FlimFlamMan> Bennlucky7: thanks
[20:30] <atsi> hi i cant update (Failed to fetch http://gr.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/pool/main/u/utouch-geis/libutouch-geis1_2.2.9-0ubuntu2_i386.deb 404  Not Found
[20:30] <atsi> )
[20:30] <ox1de> ????????????????/
[20:30] <ox1de> still need help
[20:30] <paddysteed> Xorg is using 1.5 gigs of ram and firefox is scrolling really slow through reddit; problem?
[20:30] <ActionParsnip> JessicaW: I beleive thunar can do it, not used thunar in aaaages
[20:30] <L3top> bc``:  then  it is not likely mounted.
[20:30] <JessicaW> heh
[20:30] <ActionParsnip> atsi: try:  sudo apt-get update; sudo apt-get upgrade
[20:30]  * scar3crow nods got the image via torrent in 7 mins ;)
[20:31] <JessicaW> ActionParsnip: why wouldn't command line work? it's worked in the past. Till I ran an update.
[20:31] <ActionParsnip> why are people NOT using torrents is the main question....
[20:31] <JessicaW> ActionParsnip: sudo mount -t smbfs //server/D$ /mount -o user=samba,pass=password,dir_mode=0775,gid=1009,noperm
[20:31] <bc``> nope-- i don't see it in the filesystem
[20:31] <finish06> ActionParsnip, that is a good question!  the torrent is so much faster!!
[20:31] <ox1de> d(x_X)b
[20:31] <JessicaW> ActionParsnip: cifs doesn't work either.
[20:31] <ActionParsnip> finish06: and more reliable
[20:31] <Musaab> ActionParsnip, I found out it doesn't show up on netbooks, that's why :)  (cuz of lower resolution)
[20:31] <atsi> thanks
[20:32] <softcoder> need help with the software center
[20:32] <ActionParsnip> JessicaW: are there bugs reported?
[20:32] <alien64> ActionParsnip not upgrading here so no need for all that just bitching cuz ubuntu wonts ppl to download there defective iso's:)
[20:32] <L3top> ox1de: reviving from busybox is often an involved process, things are busy... you picked a terrible day to have a time intensive problem. Flooding the chat will not get you helped quicker.
[20:32] <t0ntin> Hi, all. I installed 12.04, updated it, restarted, got to the part where I choose either windows or ubuntu, I chose Ubuntu and the computer reboots every time. Any ideas?
[20:32] <softcoder> when i try to enter a review the singing n popup windows hangs
[20:32] <softcoder> using precise with latest updates
[20:32] <ActionParsnip> alien64: never had a bad ISO here, always used torrents.
[20:32] <ox1de> i didnt flood i was just pasting the boot error message
[20:32] <ox1de> what is busy box?
[20:32] <JessicaW> ActionParsnip: I know there's got to be a place to check that but don't know where.
[20:32] <heckman> alien64: torrents
[20:32] <L3top> !flood
[20:33] <alien64> ActionParsnip: you part of the dev team
[20:33] <L3top> !pm | ox1de
[20:33] <heckman> alien64: I downloaded the Server ISOs (amd64 and i686) in about 15 minutes using torrents.
[20:33] <heckman> alien64: it's expected that the web servers will be under heavy load, so use a protocol designed to handle such requirements (BitTorrent)
[20:34] <Motafoca> guys, im using network managed for my wireless config, i have 20 access points on my device, when i move around, the network-manager connects to the device with more signal, so far so good, but this "scan time" takes about 2min to accour, i needed it to be faster, any ideas how? i tried wicd also, but its worse and bugged
[20:34] <samster34> my keyboard doesn't work in the built-in shell, what can I do?
[20:34] <rahulwadh> how can i update ubuntu 10.04 to 12.04 directly?
[20:34] <alien64> heckman: dude i aint upgraiding and heavy load aint got nothing to do with them putting bad iso's up lol
[20:35] <finish06> rahulwadh, was 10.04 the last LTS?
[20:35] <heckman> rahulwadh: apt-get install release-manager-core -y && do-release-upgrade
[20:35] <Hubarz> rahulwadh: sudo do-release-upgrade
[20:35] <ManuelSantana> Hi
[20:35] <Fyodorovna> finish06, yes.
[20:35] <scar3crow> rahulwadh: backup /home and reinstall.... it's the BEST way
[20:35] <JessicaW> ActionParsnip: if thunar can do it I can't figure out how....
[20:35] <rahulwadh> scar3crow why shouldn't i update?
[20:35] <finish06> Fyodorovna, thanks!  :)
[20:35] <dforthman> I read somewhere there were issues upgrading to 12.04 from 10.04.
[20:36] <scar3crow> I am updating atm and getting errors :-/
[20:36] <heckman> dforthman: there always is
[20:36] <ManuelSantana> has the new version of buntu been released yet?
[20:36] <heckman> ManuelSantana: yes, about 8 hours ago
[20:36] <ManuelSantana> the official?
[20:36] <dforthman> ManuelSantana, yes.
[20:36] <samster34> anyone? my keyboard won't work when I boot into the shell, but I can't boot otherwise because of video driver issues
[20:36] <heckman> ManuelSantana: why not check ubuntu.com?
[20:36] <heckman> samster34: are you trying to install Ubuntu?
[20:36] <ManuelSantana> is it available on bittorrent?
[20:37] <ManuelSantana> ok heckman
[20:37] <samster34> heckman: yes
[20:37] <Logan_> MannerMan: Yes.
[20:37] <heckman> ManuelSantana: as with every other Ubuntu release, yes. http://releases.ubuntu.com
[20:37] <Logan_> ManuelSantana*
[20:37] <heckman> samster34: why not try using alternative install ISO?
[20:37] <ManuelSantana> thanks heckman
[20:37] <finish06>  using the upgrade tool, it said it will take 4 hours to d/l the updates!  WOW.... I have a 16megb d/l
[20:37] <heckman> ManuelSantana: np
[20:37] <DanielConvissor> ManuelSantana: it's all over the home page
[20:37] <jrib> finish06: use a local mirror for your repositories
[20:38] <Logan_> ManuelSantana: The torrents are on this page: http://www.ubuntu.com/download/desktop/alternative-downloads
[20:38] <finish06> jrib, you wanna give me a link that shows me how to do such?  and THANKS (i am googling ATM)
[20:38] <samster34> heckman: because even if I could get it installed, I still couldn't boot it
[20:38] <ManuelSantana> thanks logan
[20:38] <upset> I have tried both alternative i386 isos, written them to a drive with startup disk creator, unetbootin, and dd, and they look fine with md5sum but do not pass their own disk checks.
[20:38] <vexaxv> hey guys does 12.04 have an option to install as an upgrade  FROM A USB
[20:38] <heckman> samster34: In the past I've had issues with install ISOs, when booting to the distro worked.
[20:38] <jrib> finish06: in software properties there should be a tab that lets you configure your repositories/sources
[20:38] <ManuelSantana> thanks Logan_
[20:38] <heckman> samster34: specifically with an ATi/AMD video card.
[20:38] <upset> What on earth do I do
[20:38] <L3top> ox1de: A reinstall would be a grand idea, if you are open to it. Backup your home folder onto something from a live disk... and as 1204 was JUST released (why it is so busy in here), you might just try that.
[20:38] <Logan_> ManuelSantana: No problem.
[20:38] <samster34> heckman: its nvidia, and I can't boot ANY linux
[20:39] <ox1de> i cant get into the home folder
[20:39] <heckman> samster34: well, you could install using alternative ISO then install your drivers via command-line.
[20:39] <ox1de> how do i get the live cd to load from a bad boot?
[20:39] <samster34> heckman: but my keyboard doesn't work when I boot into the shell :/
[20:40] <vexaxv> anyone install 12.04 via usb??
[20:40] <heckman> samster34: so you installed using alternative ISO, booted to your distro, and then hit: CTRL+ALT+F1 ?
[20:40] <D|nA> vexaxv, yes me
[20:40] <JessicaW> looking for help mounting a windows share. getting "Status code returned 0xc000006d NT_STATUS_LOGON_FAILURE"
[20:40] <vexaxv> D|nA, is there an option for upgrade?
[20:40] <Bennlucky7> rahulwadh: open your update manager every new ubuntu release should tell u if u wanna upgrade the 12.04 new realease
[20:40] <dforthman> JessicaW, it means the username/password required to access the share is incorrect.
[20:40] <JessicaW> how do you check which updates were last installed?
[20:41] <D|nA> if you have installed an older version of ubuntu yes
[20:41] <heckman> JessicaW: I think there are some logs under /var/log/apt
[20:41] <finish06> jrib, thanks for the recommendation mate! ... the new d/l time is 8 minutes\
[20:41] <samster34> heckman: no, but would I have the same problem of not being able to boot the distro in the first place?
[20:41] <jrib> finish06: :)
[20:41] <vexaxv> D|nA, so ive got 11.10 so i can "upgrade" to 12.04 via usb?
[20:41] <intrader> Is there a channel specific to unity, or to tomboy - I am not getting anywhere here, Pissed!
[20:41] <D|nA> yeap, installer is the same
[20:42] <Logan_> intrader: Please stop asking that. I've answered you twice now.
[20:42] <heckman> samster34: hard to say.  Might, might not.
[20:42] <JessicaW> dforthman: but they are correct. they've been working for months
[20:42] <finish06> jrib, lol, went from 46kB/s to 2,254kB/s @ the moment
[20:42] <vexaxv> D|nA, sweet thanks it wont delete any of my files will it? documents? home folder?
[20:42] <paddysteed> Xorg is using 1.5 gigs of ram and firefox is scrolling really slow through reddit; problem?
[20:42] <nesipooo> hihi
[20:42] <ManuelSantana> What is the easiest backup app for ubuntu
[20:42] <ManuelSantana> ?
[20:42] <D|nA> vexaxv, 10.10>11.04>11.10 in a netbook with upgrades
[20:42] <Logan_> ManuelSantana: It comes with one.
[20:42] <D|nA> vexaxv, no, it's an upgrade not a clean install
[20:42] <samster34> heckman: to clarify, I've tried anything from debian to gentoo, mint, suse, older ubuntus...
[20:42] <Scott99> MannerMan, tar
[20:42] <iHarp> Anyone having hangs or decrease in speed Internet-wise with 12.04?
[20:42] <intrader> Logan_, where is your answer - I have not seen it. Would mind repeating your answer?
[20:43] <atsi> φάλμα http://gr.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ precise-proposed/main libutouch-geis1 i386 2.2.9-0ubuntu2
[20:43] <atsi>   404  Not Found
[20:43] <atsi> Αποτυχία ανάκτησης του http://gr.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/pool/main/u/utouch-geis/libutouch-geis1_2.2.9-0ubuntu2_i386.deb   404  Not Found
[20:43] <Logan_> intrader: It's #ubuntu-unity.
[20:43] <upset> What's the protocol for when you have a query and no one answers? Do I just leave?
[20:43] <ManuelSantana> which one?
[20:43] <atsi> ςηατ ισ τηισ
[20:43] <heckman> samster34: And all are busted?  Seems you hit the lottery, heh
[20:43] <FloodBot1> atsi: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[20:43] <dforthman> JessicaW, depending on how your Windows environment is set up, the password may be/need to be changed. Can you verify the username/password is correct and the account is not locked?
[20:43] <Logan_> !patience | upset
[20:43] <samster34> heckman: and only in mint was I able to boot into shell, start X from there and sucessfully have a desktop running off a live disk...but the install failed...
[20:43] <D|nA> vexaxv, you can also upgrade from ubuntu updates, you'll get a notify that's a new distro version is out.
[20:43] <Logan_> !hebrew | atsi
[20:43] <vexaxv> D|nA, ah thats what i thought, sorry for all the questions but the universal usb installer is a good software to use for this right?
[20:43] <JessicaW> dforthman: yes. It's a local account on the machine. We created a second account just to verify.
[20:43] <D|nA> yes
[20:43] <Scott99> ManuelSantana: tar is the easiest backup app
[20:44] <upset> Logan_: Yeah, but that assumes I will wait for eternity, when in all likelihood no one will answer. Should I leave, or query again?
[20:44] <qm12d> hi guys, i've just upgraded to ubuntu, and there is no session menu on the top panel
[20:44] <vexaxv> D|nA, k thanks man, cya
[20:44] <paddysteed> Scott99, dont be a dick
[20:44] <intrader> Logan_, thank you, I hope it will be better there. I have issues with restoring tomboy, synchrnization , etc
[20:44] <iHarp> Anyone having hangs or decrease in speed Internet-wise with 12.04?
[20:44] <atsi> ok sorry im new
[20:44] <ManuelSantana> scheduled backups?
[20:44] <borillion>  guys is there a way to decompile *.so files from abandoned programs?
[20:44] <rodd> I get "10.10 is available" instead of 12.04
[20:44] <samster34> what do you know, the alternate iso torrent is much faster than the regular one
[20:44] <qm12d> does anybody know how to make session many appear on the top panel
[20:44] <Logan_> upset: If it's been a while since you asked with no response, then you can repeat the question. However, if people continue not to answer, it may be a question that would be better for the forums/another place online.,
[20:44] <paddysteed> ManuelSantana, deja dup
[20:45] <borillion> rodd check your sources
[20:45] <upset> Logan_: Fair enough
[20:45] <countfuzzball> rsync might be good for backups, maybe?
[20:45] <Logan_> rodd: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/PrecisePangolin/ReleaseNotes/UbuntuDesktop#Upgrading_from_Ubuntu_10.04_LTS_to_Ubuntu_12.04_LTS
[20:45] <L3top> countfuzzball: rsync is great for backups.
[20:45] <rodd> thanks borillion Logan_
[20:45] <spartan2276> How can I fix my current Upgrade issues, Ubiquity is just sitting there and it wont finish the upgrade?
[20:45] <Logan_> rodd: No problem. :-)
[20:46] <marcusk> countfuzzball: it's great for synchronization but not backups
[20:46] <L3top> countfuzzball: to backup an entire partition or hd I recommend clonezilla
[20:46] <samster34> 4 minutes to download the 12.04-alternate-amd64.iso via torrent. neat.
[20:46] <ox1de> how do i reinstall the ubuntu live CD from a bad boot?
[20:46] <Scott99> paddysteed, i'm not being a dick. i do all my backups with tar. simple and lets you control what you want backing up
[20:46] <ox1de> i'm downloading teh version12
[20:46] <caytchen> hey, i'm using xubuntu 12.04 and after booting and login I just get an empty screen with the wallpaper
[20:46] <countfuzzball> L3top: how about dd? or does that require the resulting image size exactly fit the target hdd size?
[20:47] <paddysteed> Scott99, but can you honestly say it is the simplest solution for a noob?
[20:47] <softcoder> what is the text file storing all software sources in precise (and location) ?
[20:47] <spartan2276> the Install screen is just frozen, please help
[20:47] <L3top> countfuzzball: dd works, but can very easily blow things up. I strongly recommend clonezilla, which will backup over networks or physical devices, with any number of options
[20:48] <Logan_> softcoder: /etc/apt/sources.list
[20:48] <countfuzzball> Ah right, cool!
[20:48] <softcoder> thx
[20:48] <marcusk> Nice, took just 8 seconds to download ubuntu-12.04-alternate-amd64.iso with wget.
[20:48] <Logan_> softcoder: np
[20:48] <L3top> ox1de: You burn the image to a CD or USB drive, and boot to IT.
[20:48] <samster34> so, uh, how do I make a bootable usb flash drive for the alternate iso? the tool recommended only wants isos called desktop or server...should I just rename it?
[20:49] <ox1de> how do i boot the CD? bios??
[20:49] <caytchen> samster34: I used unetbootin, worked fine
[20:49] <upset> I have tried both alternative i386 isos, written them to a drive with startup disk creator, unetbootin, and dd, and they look fine with md5sum but do not pass their own disk checks.
[20:49] <marcusk> samster34: dd if=ubuntu-iso of=/dev/<usb device> bs=1M
[20:49] <upset> What can I do?
[20:49] <samster34> marcusk: I'm on windows
[20:49] <rodd> "10.04 to 12.04 upgrades don't get turned on until the point release, 12.04.1." does that information proceeds?
[20:50] <L3top> ox1de: yes. Typically CD is an earlier boot option than hd unless you have specifically changed it, in which case... obviously that is how you change it back.
[20:50] <Bennlucky7> ox1de:  change the 1st startup in bios from hrdsk to cdrom
[20:50] <marcusk> samster34: I'm sure there is a port or similiar tool available
[20:51] <samster34> caytchen: that tool doesn't have 12.04 available in the menus :/
[20:51] <saimon777> holy fucc, it's the release day and yet there is a kernel upgrade
[20:51] <caytchen> samster34: doesn't need to, just choose the ISO image
[20:51] <Logan_> !language | saimon777
[20:51] <DanielConvissor> countfuzzball: for backups, i have shell scripts that call rsync the way i want it.
[20:51] <L3top> samster34: is the tool unetbootin? because you can specify an iso, rather than choosing one of the predefined options which will download whatever you specify
[20:51] <Logan_> saimon777: But, yes, odd timing.
[20:51] <Bennlucky7> rodd: ucan upgrade it from iso too
[20:51] <samster34> caytchen: L3top: ah, right..I thought I had to select both, sorry
[20:52] <L3top> ;) samster34
[20:52] <mystblade9> My Ubuntu LiveCD is hanging at the purple screen where it shows the accessibility sign. What gives?
[20:52] <caytchen> is there a reason xubuntu would work with the guest account but not the main account created on setup? :(
[20:52] <DanielConvissor> countfuzzball: dd can make images, but that's for when your system is off line.  the destination drive needs to have room >= drive copying from.
[20:52] <saimon777> anyone had problems on first boot with nvidia card and nouveau?
[20:53] <samster34> saimon777: well I haven't even gotten to the part where I can boot yet, but I'd say yes
[20:53] <mystblade9> saimon777: I have an nVidia card and the liveCD isn't booting for me.
[20:53] <saimon777> i solved with non graphical install
[20:53] <saimon777> then from root installed nvidia drivers
[20:53] <samster34> saimon777: how do I get the nvidia drivers?
[20:53] <Bennlucky7> mystblade9: have u check md5 the file
[20:53] <mystblade9> how did that bug get through testing? o.O
[20:53] <saimon777> root terminal
[20:54] <diakite> hello
[20:54] <samster34> saimon777: yeah, but what do I type :p
[20:54] <coreb> vmware play 4, ubuntu 12.04, norwegian layoit keyboard doesn't work - suggestions?
[20:54] <diakite> need help am newcomer
[20:54] <saimon777> apt-get install nvidia-current
[20:54] <L3top> samster34: apt-get install nvidia-current   assuming your card isnt 300 years old
[20:54] <L3top> samster34: precede that with sudo
[20:54] <mystblade9> saimon777: So the installed system WAS bootable?
[20:54] <samster34> saimon777: L3top: thanks
[20:55] <tottto-drummond> what is your pblem diakite
[20:55] <samster34> L3top: it's a 9800 GT....
[20:55] <L3top> that will work then.
[20:55] <samster34> L3top: phew
[20:55] <mystblade9> samster34: Same here. Seems we're in the same boat.
[20:55] <diakite> I've been installing ubuntu-desktop on  my laptop . now *I wanna now if is it correct?
[20:55] <samster34> mystblade9: "burning" the alternate install right now, hoping for the best
[20:56] <saimon777> this recent kernel upgrade is related to that driver problem or what?
[20:56] <ejv> guinea pigs, unleashed! :)
[20:56] <samster34> diakite: there is no laptop version, if that's what youre asking
[20:56] <samster34> ...afaik
[20:56] <samster34> so yes, desktop is fine
[20:56] <alien64> diakite: yes
[20:56] <L3top> correct samster34 and diakite
[20:57] <bc``> anyone know what might be causing this?
[20:57] <bc``> media@xbmc:~$ sudo fdisk /dev/sde
[20:57] <bc``> fdisk: unable to read /dev/sde: Input/output error
[20:57] <skramble> hi all
[20:57] <bc``> it's the usb drive i'm working on
[20:57] <diakite> or which version I'm supposed to use?
[20:57] <saimon777> mystblade9:  it was not
[20:57] <intrader> There is hardly a soul in #ubuntu-unity. Useless to go there, Useless to stay here?
[20:57] <samster34> diakite: desktop's fine. there really isn't much else, unless you want to run the server version? :p
[20:57] <borillion> is there a way to filter wine apps with these lens things on unity?
[20:58] <ejv> it's unable to read the disk for various reasons, loose cable, drive failure, etc.
[20:58] <saimon777> i started in fallback mode or something like that
[20:58] <datruth> How can I destroy the kde wallet service? everytime I boot up it comes up in 12.04 kubuntu?
[20:58] <MonkeyDust> "destroy"
[20:58] <samster34> saimon777: that's what I'm trying with the livecd, but then my keyboard won't work and I can't do anything
[20:58] <jlsjonas> hey; just did auto upgrade from ubuntu11.10 => 12.04 (amd64) & now I'm stuck at the plain purple loading screen
[20:58] <alien64> samster34 think he wonts 64bit or 32bit
[20:58] <|Anthony|> why doesn't apt do simultaneous downloads?
[20:58] <jlsjonas> any ideas for a workaround?
[20:58] <samster34> alien64: oh.
[20:58] <saimon777> destroy live cd
[20:59] <mystblade9> Wow, how did a bug like THIS get through testing
[20:59] <samster34> diakite: in that case, if it installs and runs, it's fine :p
[20:59] <mystblade9> jlsjonas: You seem to be having the same problem as us. Do you have an nVidia video card?
[20:59] <saimon777> then download alternate install iso
[20:59] <jlsjonas> jep
[20:59] <diakite> ok, I'll still stay on it
[20:59] <jlsjonas> no nvidia drivers tough
[20:59] <diakite> thanks
[20:59] <jlsjonas> though*
[20:59] <saimon777> do a non graphical install
[20:59] <alien64> samster34 but i might be wrong:)
[20:59] <saimon777> start in fallback mode
[21:00] <mystblade9> jlsjonas: Yeah, the nVidia card/drivers (I think it's nouvou) are the culprit.
[21:00] <intrader> I am browsing a document on firebox - it appears that the down arrow key does not cause scroll.
[21:00] <saimon777> from root terminal install dat drivers
[21:00] <saimon777> profit
[21:00] <samster34> mystblade9: the weird thing is....on my desktop system it works flawlessly with the same video card
[21:00] <jlsjonas> is there a workaroung id mystblade9 ?
[21:00] <samster34> mystblade9: in fact, with a whole bunch of other nvidia cards
[21:00] <mystblade9> samster34: weird o.O
[21:00] <jlsjonas> it*
[21:00] <jlsjonas> (without doing a clean install)
[21:00] <mystblade9> samster34: Propietary drivers though, right?
[21:01] <ejv> |Anthony|: https://github.com/tatsuhiro-t/apt-metalink
[21:01] <samster34> mystblade9: unless they ship with ubuntu, no
[21:01] <mystblade9> jlsjonas: Without doing a clean install.. Well, try booting into recovery mode and type: apt-get install nvidia-current
[21:01] <ThePendulum> Is there anyway to tell what workspace I'm on when switching with the compiz cube?
[21:01] <alien64> ive had bad luck with Propietary drivers with ati
[21:01] <samster34> mystblade9: just pop the live cd in, boots, works, no issue at all.
[21:01] <Logan_> alien64: Same here. The open source driver works fine for me.
[21:02] <alien64> yup same
[21:02] <jlsjonas> can't, not getting grub
[21:02] <mystblade9> samster34: Weird. Maybe it's specific to the 9800GT?
[21:02] <samster34> I also tried an ati card, but then the PC won't even post, despite the card working in two other PCs...
[21:02] <jlsjonas> directly going into normal ubuntu apperently
[21:02] <Logan_> alien64: After installing the proprietary driver, it gave me an error and then booted into Unity 2D. :-P
[21:02] <samster34> mystblade9: nope, I also popped in the GT420/220 and same thing
[21:02] <mystblade9> jlsjonas: hold SHIFT while booting.
[21:02] <alien64> the ati driver is corrupt the first one in the list lol just to be expected
[21:02] <intrader> I am browsing a document on firebox - it appears that the down arrow key does not cause scroll.
[21:02] <Fyodorovna> jlsjonas, you have one OS?
[21:02] <jlsjonas> ohh, wasn't it esc ><
[21:02] <jlsjonas> ye Fyodorovna
[21:03] <intrader> I am browsing a document on firebox - it appears that the down arrow key does not cause scroll.
[21:03] <decksmasher> HI..im putting a cd in my drive wich has ubuntu on it, butr sais the disc is blank.? but if i put it in my windows machine it shows all the pictures ive downloaded on it.but in the ubuntu machine its not reconized,just sais the disc is blank wich its not.?
[21:03] <Fyodorovna> jlsjonas, esc or shift not sure what your running.
[21:03] <Logan_> !repeat | intrader
[21:03] <jlsjonas> shift :)
[21:03] <jlsjonas> >.<
[21:03] <jlsjonas> combination maybe...
[21:03] <vexaxv> how do i find out what drive my usb is connected too??
[21:03] <alien64> i like it they wont use to check md5 sums but it appears they dont for drivers or iso's
[21:03] <mystblade9> I guess i'll just wait for a fixed LiveCD
[21:04] <jlsjonas> jep, combination ><
[21:04] <samster34> mystblade9: of course, win7 runs fine on the pc.
[21:04] <ejv> the livecd is broken? ha
[21:04] <Fyodorovna> vexaxv, what drive?
[21:04] <intrader> Logan_, thanks, and I am doing as you suggested since day before yesterday.
[21:04] <jlsjonas> note to self: don't do upgrade anymore >.<
[21:04] <samster34> mystblade9: but any kind of linux, even the DBAN tool, won't work
[21:04] <mystblade9> ejv: Yep. It's not booting for specific nVidia cards.
[21:04] <mystblade9> samster34: :o all linuxes?
[21:04] <hnsz> vexaxv: What device is connected to usb?
[21:04] <mystblade9> samster34: Arch Linux worked fine for me.
[21:04] <ejv> well that's odd :)
[21:04] <vexaxv> Fyodorovna, ive got a usb connected into my laptop, i want to know which drive it is in (im installing 12.04 via usb)
[21:04] <softcoder> other than sources.lst where else does the update-manager look for software source (like google chrome) ?
[21:05] <samster34> mystblade9: all I've tried. gentoo, debian, suse, mint, I'm forgetting some I tried
[21:05] <Fyodorovna> vexaxv, sudo fdisk -l
[21:05] <vexaxv> im trying to find out which drive my usb is connected too im installing 12.04 via usb
[21:05] <walterwoj> how do I set my IRC client up so it's not @root, there is a channel I want to get into that bans @root
[21:05] <zicada> whats the preferred method of changing fontsize in ubuntu 12.04 ?
[21:05] <Bennlucky7> vexaxv: check ur folder and see that usb location
[21:05] <vexaxv> 12.04 isnt broken is it?
[21:05] <zicada> i noticed it said while installing that you can do it, but i dont see any obvious ways of doing so
[21:05] <jrib> walterwoj: why don't you not run your client as root?
[21:06] <alien64> walterwoj not a question for here
[21:06] <L3top> the first day an OS is released a handful of gpu's don't display right on an opensource driver? Say it isn't so!     So... which of those complaining are opening a bug file?
[21:06] <Fyodorovna> walterwoj, not run your computer in root will do it.
[21:06] <Logan_> !rootirc | walterwoj
[21:06] <mystblade9> L3top: Unfortunately, it is as such. I'm not the only one complaining about it.
[21:06] <walterwoj> duh! ok, I got stuff to do then, thanks
[21:06] <zombie_> i need help with ntfsfix. It has messed up my partitions. All the partitions mount automatically on boot and i am unable to unmount the partitions.
[21:06] <softcoder> anyone?
[21:07] <softcoder> other than sources.lst where else does the update-manager look for software source (like google chrome) ?
[21:07]  * L3top was being sarcastic. Such things are to be expected... who is filing a bug?
[21:07] <Bennlucky7> softcoder:  synaptic manager maybe
[21:07] <vexaxv> okay im lost
[21:07] <goddard> how go the upgrade from 11.10 to 12.04?
[21:08] <softcoder> is there a file i can edit?
[21:08] <softcoder> to remove dups etc?
[21:08] <zombie_> i need help with ntfsfix. It has messed up my partitions. All the partitions mount automatically on boot and i am unable to unmount the partitions.
[21:08] <Fyodorovna> softcoder, soures.list.d
[21:08] <vexaxv> im using universal usb creator and it says select which drive to install on the usb it gives me z or c
[21:08] <Fyodorovna> *sources
[21:08] <vexaxv> i dont know how to find out which one im connected too
[21:08]  * jlsjonas hopes installing nvidia-current will fix it, it's my main pc >.<
[21:08] <samster34> ok, I'm trying the alternate install's commandline install option...it asked me to select a language, and then my keyboard stopped working.
[21:08] <MonkeyDust> !upgrade| goddard
[21:08] <Bennlucky7> softcoder: yes but u search what u wanna look for because is too many there
[21:09] <Fyodorovna> vexaxv, in the terminal run sudo fdisk -l it will list the partitikons
[21:09] <zombie_> please i need help
[21:09] <softcoder> so what file?
[21:09] <Ammar_> After installing ubuntu 12.04 I still see banshee in the menu
[21:09] <Ammar_> why is that?
[21:09] <lasha> hello guys, I just logged in on new one, how do you like new 12.04?
[21:09] <vexaxv> Fyodorovna, i did but it doesent mention anywhere "c" or "z"
[21:09] <lindows> wich one is the best version for laptop ?
[21:09] <Bennlucky7> softcoder: what file u wanna look
[21:09] <Logan_> Ammar_: Banshee still works in Ubuntu. It's just that Rhythmbox is now the default player.
[21:09] <Debolaz> When setting up encryption with the alternate installer, is there a strong reason why I should use lvm if I only want one partition?
[21:09] <softcoder> software sources foir things like google chrome
[21:09] <Fyodorovna> vexaxv, is the usb mounted?
[21:09] <softcoder> the main sources.lst does not have them
[21:09] <jlsjonas> \o/ login screen
[21:10] <softcoder> in etc/apt
[21:10] <booi> do i have to do anything special to go from beta2 to final?
[21:10] <vexaxv> Fyodorovna, its in my laptop and i can view files on it so yeah
[21:10] <Logan_> Ammar_: If you upgraded, then you'll still have Banshee.
[21:10] <Ammar_> oh alright
[21:10] <Logan_> booi: Nope.
[21:10] <samster34> I can't even install using the alternate .iso! grrr
[21:10] <Ammar_> yeah I have upgraded
[21:10] <mystblade9> jlsjonas: Did you use the alternate install?
[21:10] <lasha> wasnt this one supposed to come with gnome shell preinstalled ? ubuntu is causing questions ;)
[21:10] <jlsjonas> \o/ nvidia drier errors = back
[21:10] <endra> Maybe I misunderstan this whole Dash thing, but is it supposed to be like spotlight for OS X? I ask because it doesn't detect a lot of apps that I install.. for example, dropbox or sublime text 2 or anything, actually.
[21:10] <smoothhound> Great, my 11.10->12.04 failed when upgrading gforge-web-apache2...
[21:10] <jlsjonas> no mystblade9, did upgrade from 11.10 trough update manager
[21:10] <Debolaz> endra: It detects sublime for me.
[21:10] <Fyodorovna> vexaxv, the disk utility or gparted wil show drive and partitions.
[21:11] <smoothhound> package gforge-web-apache2 5.1-5 failed to install/upgrade: ErrorMessage: trying to overwrite directory '/etc/logrotate.d/gforge-web-apache2' in package gforge-web-apache2-vhosts 5.1-5 with nondirecto
[21:11] <jlsjonas> back to desktop \o/
[21:11] <mystblade9> jlsjonas: ahh
[21:11] <lindows> wich one is the best version for laptop ?
[21:11] <jlsjonas> back to 1 monitor :<
[21:11] <Bennlucky7> softcoder: u have synaptic manager already installed?
[21:11] <jlsjonas> & errors on load >.>
[21:11] <samster34> lindows: the desktop version
[21:11] <Logan_> lasha: Nope. Unity is the default desktop environment. You can do sudo apt-get install gnome-shell if you want the Gnome 3 shell.
[21:11] <vexaxv> Fyodorovna, k ill try thanks
[21:11] <lindows> okk
[21:11] <Logan_> smoothhound: Were you able to report it?
[21:11] <Ammar_> I was actually facking a small issue after restarting my system
[21:11] <softcoder> is that the same as update-manager ??
[21:11] <smoothhound> this is a server system
[21:11] <tom_> Hi. Am I right in thinking that the only installer that support encrypted disks is the Alternative installer (as opposed to the desktop isntaller)?
[21:11] <endra> Debolaz: is there a place I can configure it to find only what I want it to find? Right now it finds unrelated things.. "dash" gives me "shut down computer", for example
[21:11] <Logan_> smoothhound: Ah.
[21:12] <lasha> Logan_ which one do you prefer personally ? I am trying to collect statistical information :D
[21:12] <smoothhound> I have kept the logs to report
[21:12] <booi> Logan_, thanks!.
[21:12] <jlsjonas> anyoneknows how to remove/reset the mode errors (at boot: could not apply the stored configuration for monitors) => only with nvidia
[21:12] <Ammar_> some music daemon error
[21:12] <samster34> what do I do when my keyboard just stops working during the commandline setup? I can't even tell if the setup is frozen or not because I can't do anything
[21:12] <Logan_> lasha: I personally use MOG and Google Music for streaming. :-P
[21:12] <Debolaz> endra: That almost sounds like you are looking at the new dash-like menu instead of the actual dash.
[21:12] <Ammar_> *facing
[21:12] <smoothhound> It looks like a package conflict.
[21:12] <softcoder> Bennlucky7,  is that the same as update-manager ??
[21:12] <Ammar_> anyone else facing that same issue?
[21:12] <decksmasher> i have a cd with pictures on it.! i put it in my windows machine i see them. but when i put it in to my laptop wich has ubuntu 10.10 it sais the disc is blank..?
[21:12] <smoothhound> It's running dpkg --configure -a now
[21:13] <Debolaz> endra: Did you install sublime from a pap, or did you manually install it?
[21:13] <jlsjonas> (X config should be fine already)
[21:13] <endra> debolaz: from a pap
[21:13] <smoothhound> but yes, i'll report it
[21:13] <Artemis3> I got this error when attempting to upgrade 11.10 to 12.04: 'E:Couldn't configure pre-depend libtinfo5 for libncurses5, probably a dependency cycle.'
[21:13] <Logan_> smoothhound: Is it trying to fix itself?
[21:13] <Bennlucky7> softcoder: yeah u can update every package and remove it again and there is an information about it
[21:13] <zicada> trying again: what is the preferred way of changing fontsize in ubuntu 12.04 ?
[21:13] <samster34> help :( my keyboard stops working in the command line install language selection.....
[21:13] <zicada> it says right in the installer you can do it
[21:13] <zicada> wat do
[21:13] <Striking7> 1 free Internet hi-five to whoever can find a non-dead link for this icon theme:
[21:13] <Striking7> http://gnome-look.org/content/show.php/Glossy-Glass?content=27166
[21:13] <ejv> it's probably best to wait until July 19th, for the conservatives among us
[21:13] <datruth> How can I destroy the kde wallet service? everytime I boot up it comes up in 12.04 kubuntu?
[21:13] <smoothhound> via dpkg --configure -a, yes
[21:13] <Striking7> 'cause it's neato and I miss it
[21:14] <jlsjonas> ohh... great >.<
[21:14] <walterwoj> Is there a way to run a command as non-root while logged into root?
[21:14] <zicada> fuck this retarded shit
[21:14] <smoothhound> walterwoj, sudo -u user cmd
[21:14] <jlsjonas> "Sorry, Ubuntu 12.04 has experienced an internal error" 3 in the time it took to write this
[21:14] <vexaxv> Fyodorovna, its a fat32 and yes its mounted but no it doesent say which drive
[21:14] <endra> My dropbox menu doesn't refresh to show speed, progress, etc. Is anyone else experiencing this?
[21:14] <vexaxv> Fyodorovna, it just said mounted on media
[21:14] <walterwoj> smoothhound: thanks awsome
[21:15] <vexaxv> Fyodorovna, mount point media/lexar
[21:15] <samster34> why does nobody know what to do when they keyboard stops working :(
[21:15] <ejv> i usually restart
[21:15] <Fyodorovna> vexaxv, look for the size of the usb in the data you see.
[21:15] <samster34> ejv: ...during setup
[21:15] <diverdude> if i do find . -iname "*.sh"  i can find all .sh files recursively. But is it possible to do a "except filenames containing *something*"  somehow?
[21:15] <Timbo> so I upgraded to 12.04, and now my sound indicator won't let me change volume, and the sound settings dialog doesn't let me change anything
[21:16] <vexaxv> Fyodorovna, i found where it was but it doesent say which drive letter
[21:16] <Timbo> although ostensibly sound seems to work
[21:16] <Fyodorovna> vexaxv, is this a usb that is mounted by fstab>
[21:16] <saschakb> endra: yep - that was the whole time within the last 8 weeks the case - no speed. You can use dropbox status on a terminal.
[21:16] <Timbo> any clues?
[21:16] <Striking7> Nobody wants my free Internet hi-five?
[21:16] <vexaxv> Fyodorovna, no idea lol
[21:16]  * Timbo hi5's Striking7
[21:16] <ejv> that's a fancy syntax, $a; that unique to services here on freenode?
[21:16] <Striking7> Noooooo, Timbo!! I was saving that hi-five for whoever found a working link to this icon theme: http://gnome-look.org/content/show.php/Glossy-Glass?content=27166
[21:17] <Striking7> Now you gone and took it.
[21:17] <Striking7> ... nice high-five though
[21:17] <Timbo> :)
[21:17] <ejv> during setup the kb freezes? i'd try an older LTS and see if you can reproduce the rror
[21:17] <ejv> s/rror/error/
[21:18] <smoothhound> I just have a question.
[21:18] <samster34> ejv: :/
[21:18] <samster34> ejv: it freezes during commandline install
[21:18] <smoothhound> If I manage to fix the conflict, could I (ideally) upgrade the system?
[21:18] <Bennlucky7> samster34:  try booting without keyboard not connected and then after in ubuntu plug in the keyboard i hope that works
[21:18] <lyerra> Hi
[21:18] <endra> Striking7: Timbo hi-five is awesome. He made Tremulous. I used to play it :P
[21:18] <smoothhound> pick it up
[21:18] <jlsjonas> 'vino' seems to be broken aswell
[21:18] <ThePendulum> +1 for Tremulous
[21:18] <spcm0012> Anyone able to help a fellow out with an ubuntu 12.04 installation? Freezing on boot from usb-hdd whether i choose to live boot or install to a hdd
[21:18] <Timbo> :D
[21:19] <ThePendulum> Pity I never understood how to play it :(
[21:19] <Striking7> Oooh, nice. I like Tremulous. Played it once or twice.
[21:19] <samster34> Bennlucky7: I can't get into ubuntu without installing it
[21:19] <jlsjonas> internal error after a bit
[21:19] <Striking7> I hereby counter-five.
[21:19]  * Striking7 hi-fives Timbo
[21:19] <Striking7> Good job and thanks for your work :)
[21:19] <ejv> scientific method samster34, keep everything else the same, adjust one variable, observe, record results, analyze. rinse and repeat.
[21:19] <lyerra> Anyone else having problem with the firefow update ?
[21:19] <Timbo> yw
[21:19] <lyerra> firefox
[21:20] <samster34> ejv: do you know how many ubuntu's I've downloaded today?
[21:20] <ejv> samster34: of course I don't; but don't that impede the scientific method :)
[21:20] <decksmasher> i have a cd with pictures on it what i made on a windows machine,.! i put it in my windows machine i see them. but when i put the same disc in to my laptop, wich has ubuntu 10.10 it says the disc is blank..?
[21:20] <ejv> s/that/let that/
[21:20] <Ammar_> hey after upgrading to ubuntu 12.04, I don't have any startup sound anymore
[21:20] <Ammar_> how do I fix that?
[21:20] <samster34> ejv: It doesn't happen in mint 12.04, does that help?
[21:20] <marcusk> Ammar_: Do you have sound at all?
[21:20] <Ammar_> yes I do
[21:21] <bobo123> is there a possibility to switch between apps without pressing enter, in order to change the app (unity)?
[21:21] <ejv> samster34: indeed, it means there's a regression somewhere, use mint instead
[21:21] <Bennlucky7> samster34: is there on screen keyboard when u install ubuntu?
[21:21] <samster34> ejv: I can't install mint
[21:21] <samster34> Bennlucky7: it's a text only installer, so no
[21:21] <whons> Hi, i'm trying the new ubuntu 12.04... but when i bood from my usb install... the unity bar does not appear at all!
[21:21] <ejv> samster34: oh? why not?
[21:21] <whons> is this a known bug?
[21:21] <Fyodorovna> decksmasher, pull them off the disc and open the windows partition and drag them to ubuntu. Why they are not seen is a long wait really, if everything else is seen in general.
[21:22] <ThePendulum> There's "killall", but is there something that immediatly restarts the program as well?
[21:22] <Ammar_> any way to restore my sound back?
[21:22] <samster34> ejv: because of video driver issues. I can do "nomodeset" and boot into shell, start X from there, then proceed with the install, but the install freezes down the line and doesn't complete
[21:22] <LtHummus> does ubuntu support burning blu-ray isos?
[21:22] <ThePendulum> LtHummus: I don't see why not? If your hardware supports it, obviously
[21:22] <LtHummus> ThePendulum: just making sure there's nothing special about it...google seems conflicted
[21:22] <Fyodorovna> decksmasher, 10.10 is eol, but you probably know that.
[21:23] <ejv> samster34: sounds like 12.04 may simply not be ready
[21:23] <samster34> ejv: 10.04 doesn't work either
[21:23] <samster34> ejv: or debian or gentoo or suse
[21:23] <decksmasher> yes i do, but i just really like it.
[21:23] <samster34> ejv: or even the live linux based DBAN tool
[21:23] <EvilResistance> samster34, sounds like a problem at your computer, are you sure it freezes and never continues?
[21:23] <EvilResistance> there are segments of installing which can take time
[21:23] <Bennlucky7> whons: have u check md5sums of the iso installer?
[21:23] <ejv> ah, yea sounds like hardware issue
[21:23] <ThePendulum> How do I kill/restart the panel in 12.04?
[21:24] <BlouBlou> My upgrade just finished and I have 148 updates, meh
[21:24] <Ammar_> my desktop on login screen is not being shown.
[21:24] <ejv> if old isos don't work and other distros don't even, gotta be something else going on heheh
[21:24] <Tinti> I think unity --replace & will restart unity
[21:24] <whons> Bennlucky7: no. how do I do that? is it the same as checking the CD option during the boot?
[21:24] <Ammar_> desktop wallpaper
[21:24] <ejv> BlouBlou: get started!
[21:24] <Tinti> or at least compiz --replace
[21:24] <lasha> did anyone test gnome shell on 12.04 yet ? any annoyingness yet ? I wanna install but not until i am sure e :D
[21:24] <ejv> im sure an army of developers tested it lasha
[21:24] <samster34> EvilResistance: the mouse stopped working, and it didn't do anything for half an hour.
[21:25] <samster34> ejv: yeah, windows runs fine on the box, but no linux I've tried...
[21:25] <EvilResistance> samster34, sounds like you might have a hardware conflict, somewhere
[21:25] <datruth> damn I wish I had a google page that could answer my q's
[21:25] <EvilResistance> samster34, does the live environment work (without installing)?
[21:25] <Fyodorovna> ThePendulum, alt-f2 compiz --replace
[21:25] <samster34> EvilResistance: No
[21:25] <Ammar_> my login screen wallpaper is not showing
[21:25] <ox1de> OK, i burned teh version 12 live CD, and am attempting to reinstall... how do i load the CD?
[21:25] <DJDanJazz> hello
[21:25] <ejv> everyone else should wait until July 19th, for 12.04.1
[21:25] <EvilResistance> samster34, then your computer might not be compatible
[21:26] <DJDanJazz> :-)
[21:26] <ThePendulum> Fyodorovna: I'm not quite sure if that restarts the panel or just reconfigs something
[21:26] <ejv> (that is, if you can't afford to troubleshoot)
[21:26] <buzzkill> sounds like samster34 has the BIOS Setting for 'only MS' set.
[21:26] <samster34> EvilResistance: in fact, NO live cd of any distro seems to work
[21:26] <Bennlucky7> whons: its checkin if all the file already downloaded
[21:26] <Fyodorovna> ThePendulum, restarts compiz this is unity right?
[21:26] <samster34> buzzkill: the bios has like 5 settings, none of them are that one :p
[21:26] <marcusk> ox1de: Depends on your computer, many of them have some form of boot menu when you launch them
[21:26] <ThePendulum> Fyodorovna: Touché, forgot about the Unity part
[21:26] <EvilResistance> samster34, then your computer may either (1) have hardware breakage, or (2) global incompatibility
[21:26] <ox1de> i cant seem to load teh CD
[21:26] <ox1de> No init found. try passing init= bootarg.
[21:26] <ox1de> busybox v1.13.3 (ubuntu 1:1.13.3-ubuntu11) built in shell (ash)
[21:26] <ox1de> enter 'help' for a list of built-in commands.
[21:26] <ox1de> (initramfs) [  3.060259 ieee1394: host added: id:bus[0-00:1023] GUID[000ae4aaaa27c398]
[21:26] <FloodBot1> ox1de: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[21:26] <buzzkill> 'twas a joke samster34
[21:26] <ox1de> thats what i see on boot
[21:26] <Bennlucky7> whons: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/HowToMD5SUM
[21:27] <samster34> the only time I was able to boot a live CD was mint, booting into the shell, deleting the X11 config, starting X...but as I said the install wouldn't complete
[21:27] <bantu> Hey. I'm getting "Hash Sum mismatch" on do-release-upgrade for a few packages.
[21:27] <lindows> does ubuntu have support for 3g modems ?
[21:27] <RedNifre> Hi!
[21:28] <munkbusiness> lol Ubuntu 12.04 has bugged out and is unable to run Opera
[21:28] <decksmasher> My laptop isn't partitioned it just has Ubuntu 10.10 on it,its weird why the cd works in xp but wont show up in ubuntu.?
[21:28] <wang_> hello
[21:28] <MonkeyDust> lindows  you may need usb-modeswitch
[21:28] <wang_> I upgraded from 11.10 to 12.04.... I saw an error when it tried to upgrade the kernel (space issue, init-rd failed)
[21:28] <thephantom> Can I copy the drive that my current Ubuntu OS is running on? Or do I need to do it of a live cd?
[21:28] <wang_> How do If ix it before I reboot? otherwise I am afraid my system won't boot
[21:30] <ejv> thephantom: you can use 'dd' to perform a copy of a partition
[21:30] <munkbusiness> Can anyone help me with this I cannot run Opera on Ubuntu 12.04 it could the first time I launched it but after closing it down I am now unable to run it
[21:30] <Logan_> wang_: It always keeps the old kernel.
[21:30] <cute_bettong> ubuntu rocks! XD
[21:30] <wang_> Logan_: even when you upgrade?
[21:30] <samster34> what are the chances of this working: install ubuntu on pc #1, move disk to pc #2? hardware is similar, both intel chipsets, both intel cpus, both nvidia gfx
[21:30] <L3top> wang_: are you out of space?
[21:30] <ejv> example from docs: dd if=/dev/hda1 of=/home/hda1.bin bs=1024
[21:31] <Fyodorovna> thephantom, copy meaning the whole OS or just specifics?
[21:31] <airlynx> I recently installed 12.04 on my Toshiba Satellite A205, and when I plug in my USB headset XFCE closes to a terminal screen, last message is Stopping System V runlevel, I don't get any crash reports in /var/crash, can anyone help me figure out what is causing it to crash so that I can either fix it or submit a bug report?
[21:31] <thephantom> Sorry, I mean can I use ddrescue to copy the drive that my installations of Ubuntu is running from or should I do it from a live cd?
[21:31] <rymate1234> imma download 12.04
[21:31] <InferiorHumanOrg> samster34: ubuntu might adjust for the h/w changes. it may also fail.
[21:31] <thephantom> Installation**
[21:31] <rymate1234> why? so I can seed
[21:31] <rymate1234> :D
[21:31] <wang_> L3top, yes it ran out of space.. then it proceeded to delete some old kernels so its better now.. but I want to make sure the kernel boots iwth no issues.. is there a way?
[21:31] <wang_> the new kernel
[21:31] <samster34> InferiorHumanOrg: it can't fail worse than not installing in the first place. Imma give it a shot...
[21:31] <Bennlucky7> samster34:  i think that will work
[21:31] <L3top> oh no...
[21:31] <decksmasher> I also have a copy of xp wich i want to put in to a virtual machine, but it says this disc is blank too.? but the actual cd drive works perfectly with other discs
[21:32] <Fyodorovna> thephantom, you can't dd your os while using it as far as I know.
[21:32] <ejv> Fyodorovna: you can, the important parts anyways, like /etc/ /home/ /var/log; just not stuff like /proc :)
[21:32] <upset> I checked the iso before and after I wrote it to usb. The disk check error I have says there's a bad checksum for ./install/netboot/ubuntu-installer/i386/pxelinux.cfg/default    What can I do?
[21:33] <EvilResistance> upset, redownload the image and rewrite it to the USB stick
[21:33] <Bennlucky7> upset: redownload :-D
[21:33] <ejv> dd-ing /dev and /proc during use would probably return some interesting results
[21:33] <upset> EvilResistance: I have done that over and over all day
[21:33] <ds_> If anyone can help me, I'm stumped on this embarrassing little problem. I seem to be unable to install BitchX. I've unpacked the tarball and ./BitchX gives "no such file or directory".
[21:33] <Fyodorovna> !cookie | ejv
[21:33] <ThePendulum> How do I hide the indicator panel on the top?
[21:34] <ox1de> arg; still stuck over hre
[21:34]  * ejv noms
[21:34] <ox1de> here
[21:35] <upset> EvilResistance: I have used all the downloads available, dd, unetbootin, and startup disk creator to write it, and checked the md5 checksum four different ways (it's good right until I try the disk integrity check from the live drive itself)
[21:35] <decksmasher> ds_ is that a theme for irssi?
[21:35] <bantu> Apparently my problem is caused by apt-cacher-ng. WTF.
[21:35] <alien64> Striking7: yeah no go here for Glossy-Glass 0.5.1
[21:35] <upset> Bennlucky7:I have used all the downloads available, dd, unetbootin, and startup disk creator to write it, and checked the md5 checksum four different ways (it's good right until I try the disk integrity check from the live drive itself)
[21:35] <alien64> i did look :P
[21:35] <auronandace> decksmasher: bitchx is an abandoned irc client
[21:35] <upset> Sorry to repeat, shoulda tagged you in the first place
[21:36] <ox1de> d(>_<)b
[21:36] <auronandace> ds_: why not use irssi or weechat?
[21:36] <kwehmucdee> +1 for irssi
[21:36] <Fyodorovna> ThePendulum, unity, gnome 3, and ubuntu classic have set top panels, you might try xubuntu if you want easier desktop tweaking, any of many others like fluxbox.
[21:36] <ox1de> konversation is the best linux irc client imo
[21:36] <Bennlucky7> upset: what integrity check?
[21:36] <auronandace> ox1de: best is subjective
[21:36] <ejv> why couldn't they call it kahn-versation
[21:36] <ox1de> i'm still stuck here.... i need to get the liveCD to load for reinstall
[21:36]  * ejv facepalms
[21:36] <decksmasher> auronandace..ok becouse i downloaded bitchx has a theme foe irssi.;)
[21:36] <upset> Bennlucky7: The one on alternative iso.
[21:36] <ds_> auronandace: yeah, I can try something else... still weird I couldn't install this, but. I just need something really oldschool.
[21:37] <ejv> konversation reminds me of xchat
[21:37] <Fyodorovna> ox1de, do you need the torent link?
[21:37] <ejv> doesn't hold a candle to irssi though
[21:37] <ox1de> what torrent?
[21:37] <Bennlucky7> ThePendulum: try search indicator in software center
[21:37] <tehowe_> Hmmmn some guy said #ubuntu is trending on the twitters but not from where I sit... ppl should start hammering it though
[21:37] <auronandace> ds_: irssi should suit you, bitchx is no longer developed, thats why it isn't in the repos
[21:37] <diverdude> if i do find . -iname "*.sh"  i can find all .sh files recursively. But is it possible to do a "except filenames containing *something*"  somehow?
[21:38] <upset> Bennlucky7: It's the only thing complaining. It says the ./install/netboot/ubuntu-installer/i386/pxelinux.cfg/default md5 checksum is bad, but everything else says it is corrected and I've exhausted most methods of writing and checking.
[21:38] <Fyodorovna> ox1de, "i'm still stuck here.... i need to get the liveCD to load for reinstall" unquote
[21:38] <xlREDlx> hey guys i got a little problem http://paste.ubuntu.com/948314/
[21:38] <ox1de> i burnt the iso already... but i need it to load for reinstall..
[21:38] <xlREDlx> got a bad package
[21:38] <ox1de> how do i make it load?
[21:38] <ds_> auronandace: alright. I'll give irssi I try. But even though bitchx isn't in repos, the unpacked tarball shouldn't give no such file or directory?
[21:38] <xlREDlx> can some one tell me how to remove it
[21:38] <xlREDlx> sudo apt-get remove/purge wont work
[21:39] <upset> ox1de: Put disk in tray, close tray, change bios to boot from cd
[21:39] <Striking7> alien64: Thanks for looking!
[21:39] <auronandace> ds_: where did you unpack it to? remember its case sensitive too
[21:39] <ox1de> i did that and it still didnt load
[21:39] <Striking7> I really miss that icon theme.
[21:39] <numberto> Hi guys, my screen resolution stuck at 800X640 (Ubuntu 12.04  - installed nvidia and then did "nvidia-xconfig")
[21:39] <numberto> after restart
[21:39] <samster34_> um..can I install the alternate iso without a network connection?
[21:39] <upset> ox1de:  I dunno. Use a different program to burn it.
[21:39] <ds_> auronandace: just home/downloads, and I used tab-completion, so...
[21:39] <Fyodorovna> ox1de, so you have a cd  that errors right? Have you then checked the md5sum, and was it burned as an image?
[21:39] <Striking7> It went perfect with the Black Knight GTK2 theme (which is also really hard to find)
[21:39] <upset> ox1de: Or try another iso
[21:39] <marcusk> samster34_: yes
[21:40] <ox1de> i tried 2 isos
[21:40] <ox1de> no luck yet
[21:40] <marcusk> samster34_: just skip that part of it
[21:40] <upset> ox1de: Use a mirror
[21:40] <samster34_> marcusk: how do I ttell it to stop asking me for an archive mirror
[21:40] <Fyodorovna> ox1de, burn at slowest speed as well, or use a usb flash.
[21:40] <auronandace> ds_: well, its a lot better sticking to the repos anyway, installing stuff from source isn't really recommended unless you know what you are doing
[21:40] <upset> ox1de: Maybe check the md5 checksum as well
[21:40] <xlREDlx> back package any help? http://paste.ubuntu.com/948314/
[21:41] <ds_> auronandace: hehe...
[21:41] <ox1de> what is md5 checksum?
[21:41] <upset> Bennlucky7: Still there dude?
[21:41] <Bennlucky7> upset:  maybe there is somthing wrong with ur burner
[21:41] <decksmasher> sudo apt-get install irssi
[21:41] <ds_> auronandace: I hear ya, I thought I knew what I was doing, but obviously not.
[21:41] <upset> Bennlucky7: I don't have a burner.
[21:41] <alien64> Striking7: ill keep looking for ya , you be in here?
[21:41] <upset> Bennlucky7: USB is my method
[21:41] <marcusk> samster34_: could be that the standard installer does that, if I remember correct you can at least skip it if you select expert install but now I'm not really sure
[21:41] <ejv> md5 is a crypto hash function my friend
[21:41] <Striking7> alien64: Sure thing. You can always PM me too if you'd like
[21:41] <ox1de> explain? how do i access md5?
[21:41] <Fyodorovna> !md5sum | ox1de
[21:41] <upset> Pushy
[21:42] <alien64> Striking7: will do
[21:42] <ox1de> oh isee what u mean
[21:42] <Fyodorovna> ox1de, ^^^^^^
[21:42] <ox1de> i'll try burning the iso again
[21:42] <auronandace> ds_: if you do insist on installing from source then there is a good link
[21:42] <rymate1234> meh
[21:42] <upset> ox1de: Also, tag someone you're talking to
[21:42] <Bennlucky7> upset: can it install ubuntu without check it?
[21:42] <Striking7> alien64: You may enjoy the Black Knight theme, too... I'll upload it somewhere real fast in case you're curious.
[21:42] <auronandace> !checkinstall | ds_
[21:42] <rymate1234> why are the repo's so slooooow
[21:42] <samster34_> marcusk: I can "select the next in the install process"...but none of the options are "just install it already!"
[21:42] <upset> Bennlucky7: Yeah, but that sounds like a really bad idea.
[21:42] <Timbo> turns out the upgrade screwed up the permissions on my nfs mounted /home
[21:42] <ox1de> ok bbiab
[21:42] <auronandace> rymate1234: because 12.04 was released today
[21:43] <Fyodorovna> rymate1234, guess
[21:43] <upset> Bennlucky7: I don't really think I can ignore a bad checksum on something in the ubuntu-installer folder.
[21:43] <rymate1234> meh lol
[21:43] <rymate1234> wait
[21:43] <rymate1234> 8.04 is still supported?
[21:43] <Ntemis> i have 10.04.4 64bit, any benefits going to 12.04?
[21:43] <Bennlucky7> upset: but the iso check md5 is same?
[21:43] <auronandace> rymate1234: on server but not for long
[21:44] <Fyodorovna> rymate1234, the server yes
[21:44] <rymate1234> olol
[21:44] <ds_> auronandace: ah thanks. But this was actually a binary.  http://www.bitchx.com/download.php
[21:44] <vespakoen> Hey guys, when i open the launcher, and on the login screen, the topbar looks awesome! is there a way to have it enabled all the time ?
[21:44] <upset> Bennlucky7: It doesn't tell me what the bad value is. It just says it's wrong. Everything else gives me 'okay' or the correct overall checksum
[21:44] <xtjacob> hello, is there anyway to change the resolution of the ubuntu boot up screen?
[21:44] <MSU> msg /NickServer login
[21:44] <MSU> doh
[21:44] <kwehmucdee> lol MSU
[21:45] <MSU> irc fail
[21:45] <Bennlucky7> upset: maybe u shld try it redownload again, dont rest ur pc during the download for safety
[21:45] <samster34_> argh, how the hell do I install from the alternate iso? the expert mode gives me a bunch of to conigure, but how do I START the install?!
[21:45] <upset> Bennlucky7: I have done that ALL DAY
[21:46] <Sysss> Hi how to know what program uses my internet bandwidth?
[21:46] <upset> samster34_: Expert mode?
[21:46] <Striking7> alien64: In case you want to check out my favorite GTK theme :) znatd.com/bk.tar.gz
[21:46] <decksmasher> sysss try using htop
[21:46] <samster34_> same as regular mod except you can choose in what order you do thesteps :p
[21:46] <upset> samster34_: Install is the default item, the rest are pretty much safety checks and recovery tools....
[21:46] <MSU> erm, silly question, how does one "log in" their irc account, Ruby on Rails channel requires me be registered...
[21:46] <Sysss> decksmasher: ok i try now
[21:46] <kwehmucdee> upset: Did you download from torrent? Downloading from torrents will assure you no corrupted iso
[21:46] <Logan_> !identify | MSU
[21:47] <auronandace> !register | MSU
[21:47] <upset> kwehmucdee: I did.
[21:47] <samster34_> upset:  I am stuck on the "choose ubuntu archive mirror" menu, because...well I dnt have a netwok connection.
[21:47] <Bennlucky7> upset: yeah i know that it kind upset me too to hear that
[21:47] <MSU> !identify | MSU
[21:47] <kwehmucdee> And yet you have a corrupted iso?
[21:47] <samster34_> upset: it wnt let me proceed
[21:47] <Logan_> MSU: /msg nickserv identify <password>
[21:47] <upset> Bennlucky7: What are you referring to?
[21:47] <alien64> Striking7: ty
[21:48] <iHarp> 12.04 doesn't like the only two propriatary drivers I have listed.. I can't game so what do I do?
[21:48] <jschall> so, if i want to use empathy to make calls, how can i set that up? it's a voip client, right?
[21:48] <MSU> cool, thank you
[21:48] <upset> samster34_: I don't know what you've got going on. You're not supposed to need a network connection and that's not a menu I've reached.
[21:48] <kwehmucdee> I thought torrent automatically checks integrity of every chunk and if it's corrupted it just redownload it (waaay better than redownload an entire iso!)
[21:48] <sun_devil> Not sure why Ubuntu does not recognize my cdrom drive?
[21:49] <upset> kwehmucdee: All my downloads have been pretty fast, but I have no clue what is actually happening.
[21:49] <Bennlucky7> upset: i once install it from LinuxLive USB Creator
[21:49] <wolfmitchell> Ugh, I hate how some people call Ubuntu "Noobuntu"....
[21:49] <qEssence> Hello.
[21:49] <samster34_> upset: first it asks me to select the primary netwok adapter, then it tries to conect to an archive mirror...and when it cant connect, it goes back to select archive mirror....
[21:49] <Sysss> decksmasher: how to use htop
[21:49] <progre55> hi guys. I have an encrypted /home partition, but it doesnt mount automatically on logon. I have to manually mount it from tty before I can login. Any suggestions, please?
[21:49] <samster34_> upset: but Im OFFLINE, and I can't skip the step
[21:49] <upset> wolfmitchell: Yeah, us elite H@XXORZ have it tough.
[21:50] <cute_bettong> O_O
[21:50] <cute_bettong> thats lame
[21:50] <upset> samster34_: I think you need to use something better to burn the iso.
[21:50] <samster34_> upset: ???
[21:50] <cute_bettong> upset, i reccomend K3b
[21:50] <upset> samster34_: I think that's where this weird menu is coming from
[21:50] <iHarp> anyone else having trouble with nvidia drivers in 12.04?
[21:50] <wolfmitchell> upset- You should see #powder. They flame Ubuntu
[21:50] <upset> cute_bettong: You recommend what now?
[21:51] <jschall> does the software center protect the system from being shut down when its installing updates? i've had a kubuntu system get totally hosed because of that
[21:51] <cute_bettong> upset, K3b
[21:51] <kwehmucdee> iHarp: not me
[21:51] <cute_bettong> upset, it's a awesome disk burning app the best i've ever used
[21:51] <kwehmucdee> they works well
[21:51] <upset> cute_bettong: I don't have a disk.
[21:51] <Ibyss> Is there an uptodate "How to install ubuntu/full disk encryption" tutorial that I can use? I can not use an old one as it does not work with ubuntu 12.04 for some weird reason. I keep getting this stupid "evms_activate is not available" error and google is no help.
[21:51] <qEssence> Im having some troubles installing ubuntu, maybe im missing something. I have four HDDS, First one is a SSD INTEL, and the others are identical Barracuda ST 3TB. Ubuntu installation only recognize the SSD, and one of the 3TB hdd, but i need to install Ubuntu in one of the others, not being recognized.
[21:51] <cute_bettong> upset, oh O_o
[21:52] <cute_bettong> sudo apt-get install k3b
[21:52] <upset> cute_bettong: Nah, I'm good. I have no cd drive.
[21:52] <qEssence> Weird, i think it can be something related to 3gb/6gb ports, just wondering.
[21:52] <sun_devil> I did a cd /media/cdrom   My system shows a floppy drive, but I do not have a floppy, maybe my system is imagining things how they used to me?
[21:52] <qEssence> Anyone has handled this before?
[21:52] <samster34_> upset: the options I have in he beginning are: Default, Install, Command-line  Install, Expert Install, Command-line Expert Install, Rescue mode, Install Ubunt, and then the memtest etc tools
[21:53] <Fyodorovna>  qEssence 3 tb is a gpt setup most likely, not familiar with the install though.
[21:53] <iHarp> kwehmucdee:  When I install either of the Proprietary Drivers I log back in to a lagged out screen with no interface..
[21:53] <xlREDlx> can some one help me http://paste.ubuntu.com/948314/
[21:53] <jschall> servers are so slow... will apt-fast speed up the software center or do you have to use it manually?
[21:53] <xlREDlx> java bugged out on install and I can't remove the bad packages
[21:53] <xlREDlx> can some one help me
[21:53] <qEssence> Fyodorovna: But it does recognize one of them why not the others?
[21:54] <qEssence> Fyodorovna: Im not familiar with "gpt", sorry, newbie on this side :)
[21:54] <Fyodorovna> qEssence, I would guess broken partition tables, but that is a guess.
[21:54] <upset> Does anyone know what I can do? Can I replace ./install/netboot/ubuntu-installer/i386/pxelinux.cfg/default?
[21:54] <chris_w> are there any recommendations which local apt cache to use? i found apt-cacher-ng and squid-deb-proxy.
[21:54] <jschall> qEssence: you might try gparted to see what it sees
[21:54] <finish06> unity launcher is on both monitors... how do I take if off of one
[21:54] <xlREDlx> http://paste.ubuntu.com/948314/
[21:54] <xlREDlx> can I get some help
[21:54] <qEssence> jschall: Im on "Utility Disk" i do not see the HHDs mentioned, just two of them.
[21:55] <sun_devil> Be patient
[21:55] <Fyodorovna> qEssence, if you read this you will probably know more then me I have not had to mess with it. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/GUID_Partition_Table
[21:55] <qEssence> Fyodorovna: Thanks.
[21:55] <upset> Oh my God
[21:56] <semitones_tea> this is also a good place to go and look / ask for help, especially if you have a specific issue and no one here is able to help now: http://ubuntuforums.org/
[21:56] <jschall> qEssence: well, try gparted maybe? it should see the disks with or without a bad partition table
[21:56] <xlREDlx> any one know how to remove bad packages
[21:56] <upset> I can't believe I waisted so many hours on this. PXELINUX is for booting ubuntu from a server.
[21:56] <jschall> qEssence: are the drives visible from other OSes?
[21:56] <sun_devil> Use rm
[21:56] <upset> Somebody run me over with a truck, I'm so frustrated
[21:56] <qEssence> jschall: Running Gparted now.
[21:56] <Fyodorovna> jschall, not true a broken table will block it showing.
[21:56] <jschall> xlREDlx: is your package manager hosed?
[21:56] <xlREDlx> sigh I do not wish to delete my harddrive sun_devil
[21:57] <samster34_> upset: I know the feeling. been trying to install ANY linux for weeks now...
[21:57] <qEssence> jschall: Only two HDDS being showed-
[21:57] <xlREDlx> yea java fd it a bit jschall
[21:57] <jschall> qEssence: are they shown in other OSes?
[21:57] <saimon777> can someone suggest me a valid guide to configure mpd properly? i already done it, but mpd don't find music in my external drive
[21:57] <upset> samster34_: Why are you having problems? Have you never used it before?
[21:57] <qEssence> jschall: Yep, I use them on Win7
[21:57] <sun_devil> If you installed it, you can remove it
[21:57] <xlREDlx> jschall how do I remove it (i allready used apt-get remove/purge and clean
[21:57] <InferiorHumanOrg> saimon777: is the user who owns the folder your music is in, the same user you configured mpd to run as? in the /etc/mpd.conf file ?
[21:58] <finish06> unity launcher is on both monitors... how do I take if off of one
[21:58] <InferiorHumanOrg> saimon777: probably a permissions issue
[21:58] <saimon777> i think no
[21:58] <munkbusiness> why does ubuntu dicatate which browsers i can use?
[21:58] <samster34_> upset: no, I have, but apparently the video drivers wont work on this computer, and nomodeset someho leavesmy keyboard nonfunctional
[21:58] <sun_devil> sigh     a package
[21:58] <upset> finish06: Technically that's how it's supposed to be
[21:58] <xubu2> #ubuntu+1
[21:58] <saimon777> but mpd if daemon can acces like root?
[21:58] <InferiorHumanOrg> saimon777: make sure the mpd user owns the folder your music is in, I have mpd run as my user since I own my music folders....
[21:58] <finish06> upset, WHAT!!!!!  crappy.  i thought we had the open to change it
[21:58] <upset> samster34_: Er, compile it yourself?
[21:58] <jschall> xlREDlx: what happens when you use apt-get remove?
[21:58] <InferiorHumanOrg> saimon777: it's not needed or advised to run mpd as root I believe certainly not needed
[21:59] <jschall> god empathy is the most annoying irc client i've ever used
[21:59] <xlREDlx> nothing jschall I get no package same with purge
[21:59] <upset> finish06: Canonical is all about no options now. Also, watch your language. This channel is business casual
[21:59] <upset> jschall: You have terrible tastes!
[21:59] <samster34_> upset: uh, wha? I cant install any linux, I cant boot into shell, I cant do anthing,
[21:59] <chelz> samster34_: try the alternate installer
[22:00] <upset> I'm outtie.
[22:00] <upset> Be good kids and check you checksums.
[22:00] <chelz> upset: checksums is lies
[22:00] <samster34_> chelz: I have. it wont lett me proceed without an internet connection
[22:00] <upset> .... And check whether you care about your bad checksums
[22:00] <jschall> xlREDlx: what do you mean by "no package?" tell me exactly what it says.
[22:00] <chelz> samster34_: what part do you get to?
[22:00] <xlREDlx> jschall E: Unable to locate package oracle-java-installer
[22:01] <xlREDlx> and when ever I try to sudo apt-get install i get this http://paste.ubuntu.com/948314/
[22:01] <Striking7> finish06: I'm with you on that. I still recommend ubuntu to friends, but I switched to PinguyOS to keep my options open.
[22:01] <sun_devil> my 10.4 version does not recognize my cdrom drive, has not worked since Ubuntu was installed
[22:01] <samster34_> chelz: choose language, kyboard layut, primary network adapter, choose ubuntu archive mirror, download installer components (but I'M offline, that can't work)
[22:01] <finish06> Striking7, thank you, i will have to look @ OS
[22:01] <jschall> xlREDlx: output of apt-cache policy oracle-java-installer?
[22:01] <Striking7> finish06: There's always KDE too - if you're not used to it it will take a little time getting used to it, but it's very configurable.
[22:01] <finish06> Striking7, never liked kde personally
[22:02] <chelz> samster34_: you sure you're using the alternate cd and not minimal?
[22:02] <Striking7> finish06: It's based on Ubuntu 11.04 and is pretty snazzy.
[22:02] <jschall> xlREDlx: you can summarize or post to pastebin
[22:02] <samster34_> chelz: yes
[22:02] <xlREDlx> will do jschall
[22:02] <noeltorious> so im on the livecd choosing install ubuntu alongside windows 7 and it brings me to a screen to allocate drive space but the two sizes im allocating arent labeled with ubuntu or windows. does anyone know which is which?
[22:03] <Striking7> finish06: I tend to toggle back and forth between KDE and Gnome now and again. I usually prefer Gnome, but Gnome3, Gnome-Shell, and Unity don't really do it for me.
[22:03] <chelz> samster34_: sounds like the netboot cd
[22:03] <semitones_tea> i think the first one is windows noeltorious but i don't know
[22:03] <chelz> samster34_: what's the name of the iso file you're using?
[22:03] <samster34_> ubuntu-12.04-alternate-amd64.iso
[22:03] <Ibyss> Why doesn't Ubuntu installer offer full disk encryption?
[22:03] <schultza> im not getting the LTS to LTS upgrade notification
[22:03] <finish06> I like ubuntu when the launcher is on a single screen, as if was in 11.10 for me, now it isn't doing as such again... was this both screens change recent?
[22:03] <drecute> does sudo postconf -e 'home_mailbox = Maildir/' mean that Maildir is chosen as default mailbox format or it just specifies a directory?
[22:03] <Striking7> finish06: PinguyOS is Gnome2, much more what you're probably used it.
[22:03] <Striking7> *used to
[22:03] <bc``> hi
[22:03] <Bennlucky7> noeltorious: i think its ur another drive beside file system from ubuntu and windows
[22:04] <bc``> i have a 2tb drive and i want to copy all of its contents to a new 3tb drive
[22:04] <bc``> is "cp" the best way to do that?
[22:04] <semitones_tea> probably dd would be better
[22:04] <semitones_tea> idk
[22:04] <drecute> does sudo postconf -e 'home_mailbox = Maildir/' mean that Maildir is chosen as default mailbox format or it just specifies a directory?
[22:04] <InferiorHumanOrg> bc``: cp or rsync will be fine
[22:04] <xlREDlx> jschall http://paste.ubuntu.com/948367/
[22:04] <simonpe^^> I just did a very silly thing. A google calendar based task scheduler. Provide me with some use cases please! http://simonslinuxworld.blogspot.se/2012/04/google-command-line-tools-google.html
[22:05] <hayden_ru> So, nvidia drivers still do this http://i.imgur.com/HQWXU.png with two monitors? Any way to fix it?
[22:05] <jeanpaul_> hey
[22:05] <samster34_> chelz: it's ubuntu-12.04-alternate-amd64.iso
[22:05] <ox1de> got the message: This kernel requires the following features not present on the cpu: pae -- unable to boot-pleas use a kernel appropriate for your cpu.
[22:05] <chelz> samster34_: right hm
[22:05] <ox1de> what do i do?
[22:05] <bc``> ty InferiorHumanOrg
[22:05] <schultza> ah.. disabled those... but still not get a distro update notification
[22:05] <jschall> xlREDlx: oh, so this is for any package you try to install?
[22:06] <noeltorious> Bennlucky7, semitones_tea weird I hit alt and printscrn to take a screenshot and the labels popped up, the first in ntfs and the 2nd is ubuntu (=
[22:06] <xlREDlx> yea
[22:06] <bc``> is there a way to check on the 'status' of "cp" once i begin the execution??
[22:06] <chelz> samster34_: make sure any ethernet cords and stuff are unplugged
[22:06] <jschall> xlREDlx: you didn't include the output i asked for but never mind
[22:06] <xlREDlx> jschall I got it when I tried to install it now it pops up every time I install some thing
[22:06] <xlREDlx> I did
[22:06] <InferiorHumanOrg> bc``:  you can use cp -v for verbose so it will keep progress
[22:06] <chelz> samster34_: also try skipping the "download installer components" part when you get to it
[22:06] <saimon777> InferiorHumanOrg: what if i set my music dir readable & writable by others?
[22:06] <xlREDlx> unable to locate thingy
[22:06] <jeanpaul_> o fish
[22:07] <jschall> xlREDlx: have you seen this? http://askubuntu.com/questions/121226/how-to-completely-remove-a-oracle-jdk-that-didnt-install-properly
[22:07] <bc``> thanks InferiorHumanOrg!!!
[22:07] <InferiorHumanOrg> saimon777: I believe that would work also as long as the mpd user which is "mpd" by default can read the files
[22:07] <samster34_> chelz: I can't skip it. the only steps afte it I can skip to are "launch shell" or "abort the install"
[22:07] <xlREDlx> nope il check it out then come back
[22:07] <ox1de> im making progress
[22:07] <sun_devil> chelz, can I ask you a question?
[22:07] <chelz> sun_devil: sure
[22:08] <chelz> samster34_: what happens if you try to load installer components then?
[22:08] <samster34_> chelz: nothing, because  have no network connetion
[22:08] <saimon777> InferiorHumanOrg: how to do that? from gnome properties won't let me change permissions, even as root
[22:08] <schultza> is 12.04 available yet?
[22:08] <saimon777> yep
[22:08] <Bennlucky7> noeltorious: do u remember the size of drive that is being used?
[22:09] <sun_devil> chelz, you sound busy, I did a cd /media and it only shows a floppy drive, when all I have is a cdrom, but the cdrom does not show up?
[22:09] <InferiorHumanOrg> saimon777: from command line. sudo chmod 755 /path/folder
[22:09] <schultza> i keep checking for updates and i dont see the distro update button yet
[22:09] <InferiorHumanOrg> saimon777: maybe chmod -r it might be -R for recursive
[22:09] <semitones_tea> schultza: try checking your software sources
[22:09] <schultza> which ones?
[22:09] <semitones_tea> "software sources"
[22:09] <saimon777> what means recursive?
[22:09] <schultza> they are all checked, cept the ppa's that are failing the gpg key check
[22:10] <InferiorHumanOrg> saimon777: applying to all subfolders / files of the parent dir = recursive
[22:10] <pmp6nl> Dang, I just downloaded 12.04 at 4.9 Mega Bytes Per Second... server is doing good
[22:10] <semitones_tea> there's a setting that says "alert me about distribution updates when ___"
[22:10] <semitones_tea> you have to make sure it doesn't say never
[22:10] <schultza> set to LTS only
[22:10] <chelz> sun_devil: cdrom stuff won't show up unless you insert a cd
[22:10] <semitones_tea> try setting it to everything
[22:10] <ox1de> OK i got the boot menu
[22:10] <samster34_> darn you and you superior ISP
[22:10] <ox1de> with install options
[22:10] <ox1de> so i'm making progress
[22:10] <chelz> samster34_: is this a laptop or desktop?
[22:11] <samster34_> chelz: I'm typing on a laptop, i you are wonering abou my horrible speling
[22:11] <pmp6nl> samster34_, it was pretty slick ;)
[22:11] <samster34_> chelz: but I'm installing on a dektop
[22:11] <xlREDlx> THANKS jschall it worked :D thank you so much
[22:12] <finish06> Striking7, I was able to put the unity luancher bar on a single monitor... just use CCSM and then go under "ubuntu unity plugin" -> Experimental -> very bottom of the page "launcher monitors" ... change it to primary desktop ... set primary desktop via Nvidia X Server Settings....
[22:12] <xlREDlx> Im book marking that for any future things I bugger up
[22:12] <chelz> samster34_: you leave the disk in right? since it might be saying "load installer components from cd"
[22:13] <Striking7> finish06: I'm glad to hear there's a way. Not surprised it's in CCSM, not something installed by default
[22:13] <Striking7> :)
[22:13] <dim3dro1> Could you help me with cyrillic logins (console)?
[22:13] <samster34_> chelz: yes, Im booting from us
[22:13] <samster34_> *usb
[22:13] <finish06> Striking7, yep :/  very unfortunate .... but it is all good now!!!  Just took me a while of sittign on it, and thinking to myself... HOW did I do that last time lol
[22:13] <chelz> samster34_: you used unetbootin to put it on the usb?
[22:14] <NightFantom> testing
[22:14] <NightFantom> ok
[22:14] <Striking7> finish06: I'm loyal to Ubuntu but that doesn't mean I like where they're going UI-wise for myself.
[22:14] <ActionParsnip> Striking7: then use XFCE, or KDE....
[22:14] <samster34_> chelz:yes
[22:14] <Athanasius> The livecd doesn't appear to allow me to add keyboard layouts while in the "Try Ubuntu" mode :<
[22:14] <chelz> Striking7: yeah xubuntu is awesome
[22:14] <schultza> going from lts to everything helped.. thanks
[22:14] <ox1de> got the message: This kernel requires the following features not present on the cpu: pae -- unable to boot-pleas use a kernel appropriate for your cpu.
[22:14] <ox1de> got the cd to boot but says that
[22:14] <ActionParsnip> Striking7: Unity is only in ONE of the 4 official variants....
[22:14] <ox1de> trying to install now
[22:14] <Striking7> ActionParsnip: both good alternatives I agree. For now I'm sticking with Gnome2 though
[22:14] <ox1de> what do i do?
[22:14] <finish06> Striking7, I think it is a good move, however it is just a slow move.  It isn't polished as I woudl like
[22:14] <ActionParsnip> Striking7: Gnome2 is dead
[22:15] <pmp6nl> Whats the best way to seed the 12.04 torrent?
[22:15] <finish06> ActionParsnip, what are the four 'official' variants?
[22:15] <schultza> what? "Upgrading to a no longer supported version"... ????
[22:15] <Athanasius> ox1de: Are you using ancient CPUs? :<
[22:15] <chelz> samster34_: well could be a bug if the installer thinks you have an internet connection when you don't. i'd verify stuff like ethernet cables are unplugged, there might be some shell thing you can run
[22:15] <ActionParsnip> finish06: Ubuntu, Lubuntu, xubuntu, KUbuntu
[22:15] <chelz> samster34_: something like ifdown eth0
[22:15] <ox1de> its an older machine i guess
[22:15] <finish06> ActionParsnip, I was under the impression that Ubuntu and Kubuntu were oficial and they recently stated they were done with kubuntu
[22:15] <ox1de> still functional though
[22:15] <Striking7> ActionParsnip: that's both the strength and weakness of open source stuff: nothing is ever truly dead
[22:15] <schultza> 10.10 ? hang on.. switching back to lts only
[22:15] <ActionParsnip> Striking7: true but the Gnome2 forks are not suported here
[22:16] <chelz> finish06: the most 'official' is ubuntu. the other distros are given free stuff like hosting and other resources. the 'quitting' of kubuntu was canonical no longer hiring a kubuntu dev
[22:16] <saimon777> InferiorHumanOrg: tried sudo chmod 777 from terminal, command seem successful, no errors but permissions never changed. it's a ntfs drive does it mean something?
[22:16] <finish06> chelz, so they are only 'official'
[22:16] <samster34_> chelz: somethin must have goe wrong. I re-"burned" the flash drive, an d now I dont have haf of the options in the initial meu
[22:16] <schultza> kubuntu is being picked up by another financial group
[22:16] <Athanasius> kubuntu and the kde project in its entirety needs to die :/
[22:16] <jwrigley> 12.04 is buggy... in the 10 mins I've had it installed, I have already been prompted 3 times to submit 3 different bugs. ....
[22:16] <finish06> chelz, because canonical will host for them... kk thanks
[22:17] <ActionParsnip>  saimon777 you need to set the access at mount with NTFS
[22:17] <InferiorHumanOrg> saimon777: oh yea, you are going to need to edit /etc/fstab then I think
[22:17] <Striking7> I know that, ActionParsnip.  And I'm ok with that. I'm not trying to change anyone's mind, just voicing my opinion.
[22:17] <chelz> finish06: yeah and link to them
[22:17] <trism> ox1de: 12.04 uses the pae kernel by default, I believe the xubuntu isos use the non-pae kernel if you wanted to try that though
[22:17] <Achylles> I 've just downloaded Precise pangolin live cd, but when I fire it up it says that I my internet cable is disconnect and do not connect to the internet. I tried to add ip,gw,dns, but the save configuration button is grey out so I am blocked. suggestions?
[22:17] <ActionParsnip> jwrigley: its less than 1 day old, what did you expect
[22:17] <chelz> samster34_: you might use gparted to wipe partitions on the drive. also could try a burned cd
[22:17] <ActionParsnip> Achylles: just get the OS installed, worry about the web later
[22:17] <finish06> chelz, ok.  well i guess I will say that is pseudo-official :)  part of the reason I do like ubuntu is that it is backed by a billionaire lol
[22:17] <sk1special> mmk. chello. how do i fix this Xlib:  extension "RANDR" missing on display ":0.0".
[22:18] <Striking7> jwrigley: Anything specific we may be able to help with?
[22:18] <InferiorHumanOrg> saimon777: /media/sdcard vfat defaults,user something like tha
[22:18] <InferiorHumanOrg> saimon777: adjust for ntfs etc
[22:18] <ox1de> what is the difference between xubuntu and ubuntu? is there anyway to load another kernel?
[22:18] <sun_devil> chelz, Inserted a music cd  and did a cd /media....not their.  A few months back I tried to install Vitualbox from a cd and did not recognize it then also
[22:18] <jwrigley> ActionParsnip: Not complaining, just saying... Though to answer your question: it's a _release_, not an alpha or beta, so I would expect it to not be that buggy... :)
[22:18] <Achylles> ActionParsnip, But, what if I install it to my HD and does not detect the network through DHCP?
[22:19] <Striking7> ox1de: The difference between xubuntu and ubuntu is the user interface/desktop environment.
[22:19] <Striking7> They both should be using the same kernel
[22:19] <saimon777> InferiorHumanOrg this rustle my jimmies, i think that change that user "mpd" to my account name then reboot & see what happen
[22:19] <Striking7> There are many ways of using different kernels though
[22:19] <Striking7> What in specific would you like to be different?
[22:19] <InferiorHumanOrg> saimon777: idk I think you need to set the user flag in /etc/fstab
[22:19] <saimon777> ok
[22:19] <jwrigley> Striking7: sorry, no, was just setting up my favourite IRC-client with my favourite channels :)
[22:20] <ActionParsnip> ox1de: ubuntu uses Unity+Gnome+Compiz by default. Xubuntu uses lighter apps, xfce and xfwm4 as the WM
[22:20] <saimon777> itś an usb drive
[22:20] <Achylles> ActionParsnip, when I use other live distros they detect the network, but ubuntu live does not :(
[22:20] <ox1de> is xubuntu the only option?
[22:20] <chelz> sun_devil: you can check the status of stuff like that in the logfiles. /var/log/messages and /var/log/syslog
[22:20] <sun_devil> Although when I put in a cd, a box came up asking what I wanted to do with it, but command line option does not work
[22:20] <ActionParsnip> Achylles: then you have a bug and will need to do a little legwork
[22:20] <Striking7> jwrigley: K. Let me know if you need help troubleshooting any of that stuff or need a sounding board.
[22:20] <ActionParsnip> ox1de: or Kubuntu, using kde
[22:20] <ActionParsnip> ox1de: or Lubuntu, using LXDE
[22:20] <bc``> InferiorHumanOrg: "cp" doesn't have a -v parameter that I  can figure out how to use-- any other suggestions, or do i have the syntax wrong?
[22:20] <sun_devil> chelz, what would I look for in a log file for media?
[22:20] <Striking7> I'm still using an 11.04 derivative so I can't help from personal experience, but I'm willing to help with anything I can!
[22:20] <samster34_> chelz: no, Imean something must have gone wrong the first time, setup is runnin now
[22:20] <ox1de> is there a way to load ubuntu12? from this screen?
[22:21] <ox1de> or do i need a new iso?
[22:21] <new_ubuntu> i have install backtrack on a partition for dual boot with win 7. i'm downloading ubunt at the moment...when i try to install it would it reconize the partition that backtrack is installed? my hard disk is 300 gb 100 gb for win7 100 gb for saving staff and 100 for backtrack..so in the 3rd partition will be reconizes as linux system and install on it?
[22:21] <chelz> sun_devil: stuff related to 'scd"
[22:21] <Achylles> ActionParsnip,  It really seam a bug
[22:21] <chelz> samster34_: oh, nice. good to hear
[22:21] <Striking7> ox1de: What OS are you running now?
[22:21] <sun_devil> chelz, I will give it a try, thanks
[22:21] <InferiorHumanOrg> bc``: cp -v /old/folder /new/folder
[22:21] <Achylles> ActionParsnip, I think I will wait for the final version. Perhaps the Devs correct this bug
[22:22] <InferiorHumanOrg> bc``: cp -vr /old/folder /new/folder
[22:22] <ActionParsnip> Achylles: 12.04 is officially released....
[22:22] <jwrigley> Striking7: thanks :)
[22:22] <ox1de> it WAS ubuntu10.. now i loaded the ubuntu12 iso and got to the install menu but it says: this kernel requires the following features not present on the cpu: pae -- unable to boot - please use a kernel appropriate for your cpu
[22:23] <ox1de> when i select install
[22:23] <Achylles> ActionParsnip, today I downloaded beta2 in the morning. Where is the final release then?
[22:23] <agnul> care to help fixing a broken update? after upgrading to 12.04 system wont boot with grub complaining about "no such partition"...
[22:23] <whoever_> samba ? anyone, how do i prevent file execution from server
[22:23] <bc``> InferiorHumanOrg when i do that, i get this: media@xbmc:~/media/tv$ cp -v "30 Rock" "/home/media/media/videos/30 Rock"
[22:23] <bc``> cp: omitting directory `30 Rock'
[22:24] <agnul> (partitions are there, and I can read using a rescue cd)
[22:24] <InferiorHumanOrg> bc``: are you using " in the command? you don't need those
[22:24] <InferiorHumanOrg> bc``: also use cp -vr
[22:24] <ActionParsnip> Achylles: http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/releases/precise/release/
[22:24] <i9c> hey guys how do you install other themes on ubuntu 12/
[22:24] <i9c> ?
[22:25] <magma> almost 2k users
[22:25] <Striking7> ox1de: Uh oh. Oldish CPU?
[22:25] <schultza> annoying that i have to go through 10.10 to gert to 12.04
[22:25] <magma> amazing
[22:25] <ox1de> yep
[22:25] <Striking7> K
[22:25] <bc``> holy crap thats' perfect-- thanks InferiorHumanOrg!!!!
[22:25] <Striking7> Hm. I don't know if the 12 CD ships with alternative kernels.
[22:25] <InferiorHumanOrg> bc``: np
[22:25] <Striking7> I wouldn't be surprised if it did ship with alternatives though
[22:26] <ox1de> what should i do?
[22:26] <Athanasius> schultza: Crap, do you? My MBP is on 10.04LTS
[22:26] <new_ubuntu> schultza why to do that?
[22:26] <Striking7> ox1de: I don't know your experience level, so let me know if I need to clarify stuff
[22:26] <Striking7> Do you get a grub menu at boot time?
[22:26] <schultza> i couldnt get tyhe distro upgrade to say 12.04 after going to everything then back to lts only
[22:26] <schultza> it stayedc on 10.10
[22:26] <ox1de> i can get grub by holding shift
[22:27] <Striking7> Ok. Do you have any alternative kernels to boot from?
[22:27] <ox1de> i'm not clear on what kernels are
[22:27] <jpic> hi all, what's the command to enable/disable connections ?
[22:27] <Striking7> Ok
[22:27] <Striking7> ox1de: If your computer is a car, the kernel is the software's "engine"
[22:28] <schultza> ifconfig [connection] up/down
[22:28] <Striking7> It makes sure all your programs know how to talk to the hardware.
[22:28] <new_ubuntu> for simple questions you can always ask google. he knows anything
[22:28] <saimon777> InferiorHumanOrg i commented that "user" line in mpd.conf & now seems working fine
[22:28] <Striking7> PAE is a feature on newerish CPUs that will allow you to access 4gigs+ of ram.
[22:28] <InferiorHumanOrg> saimon777: oh ok. thats cool!
[22:28] <jpic> schultza: thanks, actually i'm looking for the command to control the network manager from a simple bash script
[22:29] <saimon777> now itś pulse audio the problem
[22:29] <jpic> not enabling/disabling interfaces
[22:29] <Striking7> ox1de: If you have a list of kernels available to you in grub, choose the oldest. See if there are some that have -pae at the end of the name and others that don't.
[22:29] <ox1de> ok
[22:29] <ox1de> ill load grub
[22:29] <saimon777> can't hear a flying tusk
[22:29] <Klikini> how do I check if I have 12.04 beta or 12.04 released?
[22:29] <escott> jpic, nmcli
[22:30] <jpic> brilliant, thanks
[22:30] <ActionParsnip> ox1de: http://askubuntu.com/questions/117744/cannot-install-due-to-the-error-kernel-requires-features-not-present-on-the-cpu   says install Lubuntu or Xubuntu and then install the ubuntu-desktop if you still want gnome. I'd use the lighter distros to give you a more responsive OS
[22:30] <schultza> lsb_release -a?
[22:30] <sun_devil> chelz, I can play it on rhythembox, but cant see it by command line.  Looked at syslog and messages and it does not see it as a problem?
[22:30] <ox1de> i'm downloading xubuntu12.04.. will that work?
[22:30] <ActionParsnip> Klikini: are you fully updated?
[22:30] <ox1de> i'll burn the iso
[22:30] <Klikini> yes.
[22:30] <ActionParsnip> ox1de: should do
[22:30] <Ibyss> Is there an upto date full encrypted drive tutorial for ubuntu 12.04 install>
[22:30] <ox1de> ok i'll give it a shot
[22:30] <Striking7> ox1de: Most likely it has the same kernel as normal Ubuntu12
[22:30] <Bennlucky7> Klikini: go to system and go to details
[22:30] <ActionParsnip> Klikini: then its the full release
[22:30] <Klikini> I never updated but update manager reports nothing
[22:31] <Striking7> Think different car, same engine
[22:31] <samster34> ok, so I moved the finished install to the other computer, trying to boot into recovery mode, I get to the shell, and again, my keyboard doesn't work so I can't do anything.....
[22:31] <ActionParsnip> Klikini: your OS has the same package versions as the released OS
[22:31] <Klikini> in details.... do what?
[22:32] <ActionParsnip> Klikini: nothing, you have the new release, you upgraded seamlessly into it
[22:32] <Bennlucky7> Klikini: if there is no beta in ur logo then it fill realease
[22:32] <Klikini> good
[22:32] <Klikini> thanks!
[22:32] <ox1de> there is no mention of pae in teh grub menu
[22:32] <Klikini> Quantal is available in beta? "(05:30:12 PM) Logan_ left the room (quit: Quit: Rebooting into Quantal. :-))."
[22:32] <Striking7> ox1de:
[22:33] <Striking7> ox1de: ok. I'm doing some googling for you real fast.
[22:33] <Bennlucky7> lol
[22:33] <Logan_> Klikini: If you come into #ubuntu+1, I'll explain. :-)
[22:33] <Klikini> okay
[22:33] <i9c> how do I install an old theme on ubuntu 12.04?
[22:33] <sintrinsic> Hey guys. Using a console irc client for the first time. Is this readable?
[22:33] <Striking7> ox1de: http://www.bestubuntu.com/non-pae-kernel-wont-be-dropped-in-12-04-lts.html
[22:33] <airlynx> I recently installed 12.04 on my Toshiba Satellite A205, and when I plug in my USB headset XFCE closes to a terminal screen, last message is Stopping System V runlevel, I don't get any crash reports in /var/crash, can anyone help me figure out what is causing it to crash so that I can either fix it or submit a bug report?
[22:33] <Striking7> sintrinsic: Yes.
[22:33] <Waraudon> I'm assuming that it's not possible to upgrade from 11.04->12.04 (server edition), would the recommended option be to do a fresh install, or to go 11.04->11.10->12.04 ?
[22:33] <ActionParsnip> airlynx: what if you boot with it plugged in?
[22:34] <dlentz> airlynx, when you get kicked to the terminal, look at dmesg and ~/.xsession-errors
[22:34] <ActionParsnip> Waraudon: you cannot go from Natty to Precise in one bound. You will need to do one of the other 2 options.
[22:34] <sintrinsic> Awesome. I just upgraded from 11.04 to 12.? and it's now telling me it cant detect my display/input settings, and kicks me to a tty prompt. Any ideas on how to fix?
[22:34] <Logan_> Waraudon: Backing up and then doing a fresh install is always a more recommended option.
[22:34] <airlynx> ActionParsnip, it will show the boot splash then kick me to TTY1
[22:34] <ActionParsnip> Waraudon: I'd go for a clean install of Precise, clean OS a intended with 5 years support
[22:35] <HaiKaiDo> in 12.04 is it still just unity? I still like Rosey. would it be hard to downgrade?
[22:35] <Waraudon> ActionParsnip: I think I might just do a fresh install, it's a home gateway/server box that's also used for file backups. However, the backups are on a separate partition so I don't have to worry about that
[22:35] <bastidrazor> I upgraded from 11.10 and it appears to be doing well.
[22:35] <ActionParsnip> airlynx: are you connecting it to  a USB hub or direct to the system?
[22:35] <Striking7> sintrinsic: what kind of hardware do you have?
[22:35] <jpic> when i configured the 3G connection, Ubuntu asked for the pin code. After entering the pin code, checking "Remember the pin code" checkbox, and clicking OK, it works. The problem is that NetworkManager still pops up the dialog for the pin code - even thought it *does* enable the 3G connection properly which means that it used the pin code
[22:36] <ActionParsnip> jpic: are there any bugs reported?
[22:36] <sintrinsic> input devices are just usb keyboard/mouse. Displays are 2 dell monitors, and graphics card is radeon hd 9800 i believe
[22:36] <jpic> i mean that now, Ubuntu asks for the pin, i close the window without entering the pin - which i forgot, trashed - and it works
[22:36] <airlynx> ActionParsnip, I've tried both, same results
[22:36] <ActionParsnip> airlynx: have you tried setting the USB ports to legacy in BIOS?
[22:36] <Striking7> ox1de:  check it out!!! http://askubuntu.com/questions/122841/why-is-12-04-using-a-pae-dependent-kernel-by-default
[22:36] <schultza> grr... i should jsut download the lts disk... thanks guys
[22:36] <airlynx> ActionParsnip, I have not, I'll add that to my list of things to try
[22:36] <Striking7> ox1de: scroll most of the way down
[22:37] <Striking7> You'll see it say that Lubuntu and Xubuntu both have non-pae kernels by default
[22:37] <Striking7> ox1de: so you were right!
[22:37] <heph> how do i get the gpg key id for a ppa i've already added?
[22:37] <Striking7> Download xubuntu and boot off that, you're probably goldten.
[22:37] <beandog> gpg --list-keys
[22:37] <Striking7> golden, even.
[22:37] <heph> beandog: thanks
[22:37] <schultza> 64 bit linux still not ready?
[22:37] <beandog> I think
[22:37] <Striking7> sintrinsic: the ATI card is probably your problem.
[22:37] <jpic> ActionParsnip: apparently https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/network-manager/+bug/704123 but the last comment is "How can I fix this problem on Ubuntu 11.04 (gnome desktop) without upgrading to 12.04 ?
[22:38] <heph> hm, not quite
[22:38] <jpic> wait, i did upgrade, so it should be fixed, but it's not ...
[22:38] <sintrinsic> Striking7: How would I fix it. All I know is that it says it can't find display :0
[22:38] <HaiKaiDo> is it hard in 12.04 to switch from unity to gnome 2?
[22:38] <scwizard> in xubuntu, I hid everything in the notification area. How can I bring up the notification area's properties dialog so that I can unhide things?
[22:38] <heph> beandog: ah, apt-key list =]
[22:39] <beandog> heph: oh nice even better
[22:39] <samster34> I tried a different keyboard, but this one also doesn't work in the recovery mode / shell boot option....is there any way to boot without the nouveau drivers, but not into the shell?
[22:39] <Striking7> sintrinsic: I feel your pain. ATI cards are hard to get working in Linux. Also, I believe I remember someone saying earlier that the proprietary ATI drivers aren't shipped by default with Ubuntu12. Don't quote me on that.
[22:39] <ox1de> OK striking7; i'll load a xubuntu12 iso and see if that will load proper
[22:39] <jpic> how to check network manager version ?
[22:39] <airlynx> dmesg doesn't show anything when I plug the USB headset in
[22:39] <Striking7> sintrinsic: There is a default driver that you can use just to get your graphical environment up and running but its performance is bad, so just use it to troubleshoot and get the real drivers working
[22:40] <Striking7> Look up the "Framebuffer" driver
[22:40] <beandog> NetworkManager --version
[22:40]  * jpic is sorry, real noob
[22:40] <Striking7> ox1de: I hope it works. It looks like it will from the research I did
[22:40] <samster34> striking: how do I get that running?
[22:40] <sintrinsic> Striking7: Would you happen to know the package name? Tough to google in console browsers.
[22:40] <Striking7> sintrinsic: I don't, but I'll look!
[22:40] <alien64> vesa
[22:40] <sintrinsic> Striking7: you're my hero.
[22:40] <jpic> thanks, it reports 0.9.4.0, so that *should* contain the fix that has claimed to be introduced in 0.9.2
[22:40]  * Striking7 bows
[22:41] <samster34> alien64: how do I change the boot options in grub so that ubuntu will start to the desktop with vesa drivers? if I use nomodeset to get to the shell, my keyboard doesnt work. no matter which keyboard I try.
[22:42] <samster34> and without keyboard, I can't tell it to do anything :/
[22:42] <zenmaster> clear
[22:42] <zenmaster> Worong window. :)
[22:42] <zenmaster> Hi! Anyways.
[22:42] <beandog> heh
[22:42] <airlynx> after it crashes I can type lsusb and see that it did in fact recognize the device as plantronics
[22:42]  * beandog gives zenmaster a cookie
[22:42] <NurseDad> can someone tell me where/how to get ubuntu tweak
[22:43] <sun_devil> Question, is normal for a sys not to recoginize a drive?
[22:43] <Noko_> Hi there ;-) I have this  entry in my grub boot menu "Found linux image: /boot/bzImage-2.6.38.2-xxxx-grs-ipv6-64" Has anyone a solution how i can get rid of this entry? Thank you
[22:43] <airlynx> .xsession-errors is not timestamped, so I'm not entirely sure where the problem starts
[22:43] <gr4mm4r> hello, i cannot find skype after i minimize it, running it from /home just starts another instance of it, and thats not hwat im looking for, anyone else have this issue?
[22:43] <melvster> hi all any way to hide the sidebar in precise?
[22:44] <Striking7> btw sintrinsic: if you want to do your own research while I'm looking, there's a text-mode browser named lynx
[22:44] <Striking7> "q" quits, "g" (stands for "go") will let you enter a url to go ot
[22:45] <Striking7> to
[22:45] <jpic> how to know in a script if "Enable wireless" is checked in nmapplet ?
[22:45] <Striking7> and the right arrow key "clicks" a link. Back arrow goes back
[22:45] <zenmaster> Hi, I need apache to log more so I can see why it is not starting. :)
[22:46] <zenmaster> How does one go about doing that? :D
[22:46] <jpic> nvm, nmcli nm
[22:46] <alien64> sintrinsic: change to vesa in xorg.conf is my guess
[22:47] <diegoviola> why would you use vesa?
[22:47] <diegoviola> simplexi1: what card do you have?
[22:47] <Striking7> sintrinsic: alien64's suggestion is probably a good start. Do you know how to do that?
[22:48] <diegoviola> oops
[22:48] <diegoviola> sintrinsic: what card do you have?
[22:48] <Lint> what should I do to enable gnome-shell in Precise? I installed gnome-shell package but it segfaults
[22:48] <Lint> also, is it possible to use the Gnome Network Manager in precise?
[22:48] <Striking7> diegoviola: he has a radeon 9800 HD
[22:48] <marti> ciao
[22:48] <diegoviola> Striking7: why not use the radeon driver then?
[22:48] <marti> atutti
[22:48] <ox1de> btw... the link for xubuntu PC desktop CD says 404 not found
[22:49] <sintrinsic> strinking7: afraid not. sry. was in another tty
[22:49] <ox1de> so i went with the alternate
[22:49] <airlynx> I moved the .xsession-errors file to .xsessions-backup, then plugged in my USB headset, then tried to view the .xsession-errors file again but there was nothing there
[22:49] <ox1de> will teh alternate work ok?
[22:49] <Striking7> diegoviola: I was just suggesting the most failsafe thing as a start.
[22:49] <marti> !lista
[22:49] <dagadagadaga> is anyone suffering from very slow installation from usb?
[22:49] <Striking7> diegoviola: most likely the radeon driver works best long term.
[22:49] <Striking7> ox1de: Yes it will.
[22:49] <Striking7> ox1de: the only difference is that the installer is text-mode for alternate.
[22:49] <samster34> help, is there a way to boot ubuntu, so that X will start but it will not use the nouveau driver?
[22:49] <diegoviola> Striking7: using the radeon driver is a good idea because it does support KMS (kernel mode setting) which happens to detect the resolution for you automatically so then xorg.conf is not needed anymore.
[22:49] <ox1de> text mode?
[22:50] <Striking7> ox1de: the normal liveCD puts you in a graphical environment
[22:50] <samster34> ox1de: my keyboard doesnt work in text mode, so that doesnt help :(
[22:50] <ox1de> u sure it will work?
[22:50] <progre55> hi guys. I have an encrypted /home partition, but it doesnt mount automatically on logon. I have to manually mount it from tty before I can login. Any suggestions, please?
[22:50] <Striking7> ox1de:  yeah. Not a big deal - it's just not "pretty" when it's in the installer
[22:50] <ox1de> isee
[22:50] <Striking7> Yeah, it installs the same thing.
[22:51] <Striking7> It just doesn't look as pretty while it's doing so
[22:51] <alien64> diegoviola: he should use the radeon driver in the repo not the propritery ones
[22:51] <marti> !lista
[22:51] <diegoviola> sintrinsic: use the radeon driver
[22:51] <Striking7> diegoviola: You're right.
[22:51] <Lint> also it has an expert mode
[22:51] <samster34> help, is there a way to boot ubuntu, so that X will start but it will not use the nouveau driver?
[22:51] <diegoviola> alien64: sure
[22:51] <Striking7> diegoviola: do you think you could help sintrinsic through that process? It's been a while since I had an ATI card
[22:51] <Striking7> ... I used the proprietary drivers when I did, too.
[22:51] <diegoviola> Striking7: sure
[22:51] <airlynx> Off to try ActionParsnip's suggestion, setting USB to legacy mode in BIOS, wish me luck
[22:51] <Striking7> That was... 2005 I think :-p
[22:52] <diegoviola> sintrinsic: you just need to install xf86-video-ati or xf86-video-radeon
[22:52] <diegoviola> sintrinsic: that will hopefully pull the other dependencies
[22:52] <diegoviola> like the kernel drivers, etc
[22:52] <alien64> tri ati first")
[22:52] <sintrinsic> diegoviola: awesome. trying that now. brb
[22:53] <diegoviola> sintrinsic: then you don't need to do anything with the xorg.conf anymore. Actually, xorg.conf is not needed anymore if you have a KMS driver.
[22:53] <Striking7> samster34: why doesn't your keyboard work in text mode?
[22:53] <Striking7> Is it a usb keyboard?
[22:53] <sarnold> The most recent Firefox update to 12.0+build1-0ubuntu0.11.04.1 broke the ^W, ^U, keybindings in text edit widgets. Does anyone know what to edit to bring back their old behavior (kill word, kill line)?
[22:53] <diegoviola> sintrinsic: sure, let us know if you need more help.
[22:53] <sw0rdfish> hey guys, what desktop environment does ubuntu 12.04 have?
[22:53] <Riddell> sw0rdfish: unity
[22:53] <Arthur_D> unity
[22:53] <sw0rdfish> and 12.10?
[22:53] <sw0rdfish> also unity?
[22:54] <Arthur_D> probably the same
[22:54] <Riddell> 12.10 doesn't exist yet
[22:54] <marti> ciao
[22:54] <sw0rdfish> Arthur_D, don't ya have 12.10
[22:54] <marti> !lista
[22:54] <sw0rdfish> oh rlly Riddell.
[22:54] <Striking7> sw0rdfish: Most likely. Unity is still pretty young - it'll probably be much better when October rolls around than it is now (it's not terrible now, but not perfect)
[22:54] <samster34> Striking7: I don't know why. It says "unable to enumerate USB device on port 8"
[22:54] <Arthur_D> sw0rdfish: 12.04 is the latest version
[22:54] <sk1special> is there a way to reset/reinstall gnome-settings-daemon?
[22:54] <sw0rdfish> I dunno Riddell man I was with 10.10 till before yesterday man... but updates stopped so I was like "BuMMeR!"
[22:54] <Striking7> samster34: Sounds like something a bios setting can fix
[22:54] <samster34> Striking7: I've tried different keyboards, different ports, there are no other USB devices...
[22:55] <Striking7> samster34: Look through your bios for a setting called "emulate legacy usb keyboard"
[22:55] <samster34> Striking7: the only bios setting that relates is "Support keyboard and mouse ONLY", does that sound like a wordy way to describe the legacy support setting?
[22:55] <Striking7> samster34: Doesn't sound like it to me :(
[22:56] <ActionParsnip> Striking7: young, it's been around since Natty...
[22:57] <Arthur_D> for software as complex as a desktop environment, that's pretty young
[22:57] <samster34> Striking7: well, I have no other settings relating to usb or keyboards
[22:57] <sw0rdfish> lol why did the OS freak out when I typed unity into a terminal.
[22:57] <Striking7> ActionParsnip: It has. And that is very young compared to Gnome, KDE, and even things like Enlightenment.
[22:57] <samster34> except choosing 1.1+2.0 or 1.1
[22:57] <ActionParsnip> Arthur_D: unity isn't a DE
[22:57] <airlynx> changing BIOS settings had no effect, my system still crashes when I plug in my USB headset, nothing in dmesg, nothing in .xsession-errors, does anybody else have any ideas as to why it would do this?
[22:57] <gr4mm4r> anyone not able to restore skype in 12.04 after its minimized?
[22:57] <alien64> young and sucky :)
[22:58] <Striking7> samster34: shoot. Ok. There's probably a safe graphics mode option for Ubuntu's boot.
[22:58] <Striking7> I'll look around real quick.
[22:58] <samster34> Striking7: is there a way to boot into X without nouveau drivers, instead of booting to textmode?
[22:58] <Arthur_D> ActionParsnip: still, it requires heavy integration with Gnome and other software, so it does take a while for things to settle
[22:58] <samster34> Striking7: ok, how do I find this option :P
[22:58] <ActionParsnip> Arthur_D: i guess, but it's not as young as HUD etc
[22:58] <Arthur_D> ofc
[22:59] <Striking7> samster34: I'm looking that up right now.
[22:59] <samster34> "usb 1-8: device not accepting addres 2, error -110"
[23:00] <samster34> same with address 3, 4, 5, then it says unable to enumerate device.
[23:00] <Dustyred> http://imgur.com/0lxiZ
[23:00] <Striking7> samster34: Do you have a lot of usb devices plugged in?
[23:00] <sw0rdfish> hmmmm what can I do in tty2 to restart the GUI session of tty7?
[23:00] <bruker> hey
[23:00] <samster34> Striking7: nothing except the keyboard.
[23:01] <bobweaver> !gnome >bobweaver
[23:01] <alien64> samster34: is your bios setting irq's or software?
[23:01] <samster34> alien64: ?
[23:01] <sarnold> sw0rdfish: probably "sudo killall X" would do the job.
[23:01] <Striking7> Huh. I've seen a similar error a few times, but that was on some custom hardware that had really low maximum current on usb powered devices.
[23:01] <samster34> alien64: there are options for the IRQs...they are set to auto
[23:01] <Birdything> This link appears to be dead: http://mirror.anl.gov/pub/ubuntu-iso/DVDs/ubuntu/precise/release/ubuntu-12.04-dvd-amd64.iso
[23:02] <Birdything> -.-
[23:02] <sw0rdfish> is that ok to do sarnold? I don't have any open documents but it freaked out when I typed unity into a terminal.
[23:02] <SteveBell> hi all. maybe stupid question, but what keys are which when I'm on a mac, virtual box and then in ubuntu?
[23:02] <sarnold> sw0rdfish: it'll kill your X server and that ought to kill all your X clients as a result; i _think_ tty7 ought to restart the display manager and allow you to log in again
[23:03] <SteveBell> firefox shortcut for add-ons is supposed to be alt + ctrl + a
[23:03] <SteveBell> but nothing happens.
[23:03] <sw0rdfish> sarnold, I see.
[23:03] <alien64> samster34: most bios have a place that lets the bios can choose irq settings if its on turn it off
[23:03] <samster34> alien64: still not sure what you mean
[23:03] <samster34> alien64: I have a bunch of options like: "PCI IRQ line 1: Auto Select"
[23:04] <samster34> alien64: disable all 8 of them?
[23:04] <whoever_> hi all is there a free antivirus that works
[23:04] <Tinti> for windows? avast?
[23:04] <whoever_> i tried avast clamav neither seem to work , can someone assist ?
[23:04] <SteveBell> noone knows?
[23:04] <alien64> samster34:prolly the one for usb
[23:05] <Sir_Leto> Is there any way to make ubuntu ring my bluetooth headset  when I get a call? I know I can run commands from skype, but I don't know what command to use.
[23:05] <samster34> alien64: I don't see one for USB
[23:05] <airlynx> can I run apport from tty1 to capture a crash that happens on tty7?
[23:05] <whoever_> Tinti: yes, but i am trin' to scan directly from ubuntu
[23:05] <Sir_Leto> I want it actually make ubuntu ring my bluetooth headphones.
[23:05] <ActionParsnip> !av | whoever_
[23:05] <sarnold> whoever_: microsoft security essentials is quite nice; bitdefender is my brother's favorite bootable CD. Be aware that you also have to run "antimalware" scanners too, as the AV people have apparently decided that if you decided to install the crap yourself, it's not a virus. :)
[23:06] <halakar> hey guise
[23:06] <alien64> samster34: can u pastbin the one u have and the settings
[23:06] <halakar> i just switched from mageia (kde4) to ubuntu today, because i was sick and tired of my rig being slow.
[23:06] <Fyodorovna> Tinti, http://forum.avast.com/index.php?topic=91145.0  there is tweak that needs to be done to have it load the updates though.
[23:06] <halakar> i have a few questions - anyone available to answer?
[23:06] <whoever_> sarnold: don't i have to pay for bittdefender
[23:06] <samster34> alien64: pastebin what?
[23:06] <sarnold> whoever_: not their bootable CD, that's free
[23:06] <alien64> those 8 setting in ur bios
[23:07] <dforthman> is the "Get Ubuntu" page erroring for anyone else?
[23:07] <samster34> they are all the same except the number
[23:07] <halakar> is there any kind of tool that i can use to mount another hard drive in a folder, or do i have to use the command line interface?
[23:07] <whoever_> and whoever is controlling ubuntu bot yes i am passing the files to windows
[23:07] <halakar> in settings, i don't see any kind of disk management tool
[23:07] <whoever_> well not directly making them available from the smb server
[23:07] <monotoko> alright people... I need to know if I can trust the QQ Linux client? I have a meeting with a chinese client and they will only use QQ >.>
[23:07] <Striking7> samster34: sorry, so far I've only been able to find solutions that involve using the terminal
[23:07] <Striking7> ><
[23:07] <Fyodorovna> sarnold, whoever_ https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BitDefender
[23:08] <samster34> alien64 :PCI IRQ line # : Auto Select | Disabled | 5 | 7 | 10| 11 |
[23:08] <samster34> Striking7: darn.
[23:08] <ActionParsnip> whoever_: there are AV solutions listed in the link...
[23:08] <whoever_> sarnold: but the application , i would have to pay for
[23:08] <Striking7> That doesn't mean that's all that there is, just all I've found.
[23:08] <sarnold> Fyodorovna: that's pretty cool, thanks.
[23:08] <SteveBell> actually the shortcut for firefox addons is plain wrong. it says alt + ctrl + a but it actually is ctrrl + shift + a
[23:08] <monotoko> it's all in chinese... but as long as I can navigate my way to chat I should be okay... however I just wanted to know if I can trust it
[23:08] <Striking7> If there's one thing I've learned about Linux, there's a way to do anything.
[23:08] <whoever_> ActionParsnip: what link i may have missed it
[23:08] <ActionParsnip> !av | whoever_
[23:08] <samster34> Striking7: I could attempt moving the disk back to the other computer, installing the nvidia drivers, then moving it to this one? do I need to uninstall the nouveau drivers?
[23:08] <Striking7> Including fly a herd of pygmy elephants into a rainbow.
[23:08] <sarnold> whoever_: maybe? My brother has always been content to run MS Security Essentials on his clients and use BitDefender for when they've broken something :)
[23:09] <ActionParsnip> whoever_: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Antivirus
[23:09] <liberal> monotoko: you can't use a segregated VM that will be deleted immediately afterwards?
[23:09] <halakar> uh, is this #windows or #ubuntu ?
[23:09] <liberal> simple solution if you're paranoid about it.
[23:09] <Fyodorovna> sarnold, both avast and bitdefender have free clients, they use the same windows av lists as the windows versions respectively.
[23:09] <ActionParsnip> whoever_: does your IRC client not scroll up?
[23:09] <Striking7> samster34: it'd be wise to blacklist the nouveau drivers if you really don't want to use them.
[23:09] <alien64> samster34: how pastbin lsusb
[23:09] <sinichiro> halakar: #ubuntu .)
[23:09] <whoever_> ActionParsnip: im half blind so i can miss shit
[23:09] <samster34> alien64: what? sorry?
[23:09] <samster34> Striking7: how?
[23:09] <monotoko> liberal, I could but the hardware support isn't so good for a video call... I just don't trust a chinese company in a communist state with root access to my machine...
[23:09] <alien64> samster34: how about pastbin lsusb
[23:10] <Striking7> samster34: to blacklist the drivers, edit "/etc/modprobe.d/blacklist.conf"
[23:10] <halakar> sinichiro, then can you help a newbie with a few questions?  with 1700 people in this chan, i'm surprised i can get any help
[23:10] <whoever_> ActionParsnip: but thanks for reposting te link
[23:10] <Striking7> (from the other computer obviously :)
[23:10] <ActionParsnip> whoever_: np :0
[23:10] <sarnold> monotoko: AppArmor profile the stupid thing :)
[23:10] <monotoko> liberal, from what I've heard... it wants root access every time it's run
[23:10] <samster34> alien64: lsusb? what is that?
[23:10] <Striking7> and add a line at the end saying just "nouveau"
[23:10] <soulnafein> wtf is Nouveau driver?
[23:10] <ActionParsnip> Striking7: or run:   echo "blacklist nouveau" | sudo tee -a /etc/modprobe.d/blacklist.conf > /dev/null
[23:10] <samster34> foss nvidia driver
[23:10] <monotoko> sarnold, ahhh good plan! Never thought of that :)
[23:10] <ActionParsnip> soulnafein: open source nvidia driver
[23:10] <Striking7> samster34: lsusb is a command that tells you about the usb devices in your system.
[23:11] <sinichiro> halakar:  sure. I'm no expert though
[23:11] <Striking7> ActionParsnip has good advice there, samster34
[23:11] <halakar> well, if you've been using it for more than one day you might be helpful
[23:11] <samster34> Striking7: alien64: I CAN'T TYPE ANYTHING in text mode. I can't run any commands. I can't boot into desktop because of video drivers
[23:11] <sinichiro> halakar: a bit more yeah .)
[23:11] <Striking7> samster34: I know that :)
[23:11] <Striking7> samster34: but you said you could hook the drive up in another computer
[23:11] <samster34> yeah, more directed at alien64 :)
[23:12] <alien64> samster34: not trying to be mean here but google some of this yourself not doing what is asked of you and asking another question will get you no where fast
[23:12] <Striking7> samster34: So you could potentially do it from the other computer, right?
[23:12] <samster34> yea...but how are the USB devices on another computer going to help
[23:12] <soulnafein> ActionParsnip, are they any good or they are good only for the warm fuzzy feeling that open source give?
[23:12] <halakar> sinichiro, my question is how to mount another device (i.e /dev/sdb1) to a folder under my home directory,
[23:12] <ActionParsnip> soulnafein: they run my 6150LE pretty well, but so does the 1295 driver from nvidia
[23:12] <craawl> Is there a best practices guide to repartitioning a disk with an old Ubuntu install to free up space for a 12.04 install and dual-booting (temporarily)?
[23:12] <samster34> alien64: I can't do anything at the moment on the computer having the problems, so I physically CANT run lusb on it
[23:12] <halakar> sinichiro, my previous distro (mageia/mandriva) let me do this via the "control center" they had.  I don't see anything like that with ubuntu.
[23:13] <sarnold> samster34: no ssh? :(
[23:13] <samster34> sarnold: I can't even boot
[23:13] <Hebram> Hello.  I am interested in changing the icons on some folders to a custom icon.  Can some instruct me on how to do this?
[23:13] <sarnold> samster34: oh that sucks. :/ I thought it booted but just never let you type anything. Sorry.
[23:13] <samster34> I can get into text mode, and then I cant type anything
[23:13] <Striking7> samster34: Totally understand. But if you're able to use another computer and mess with the drive hopefully you can modify /etc/modprobe.d/blacklist.conf
[23:14] <Striking7> samster34: Is that possible?
[23:14] <samster34> Striking7: yeah that's what I'm hoping. just have to log off here again to try....
[23:14] <Striking7> Ok. I may have to go soon though :\
[23:14] <alien64> im done have fun guys
[23:14] <Striking7> Later alien64
[23:14] <samster34> Striking7: ? is what possible? ssh-ing into text mode from another computer?
[23:14] <Striking7> alien64: Thanks for looking for that icon set :)
[23:14] <samster34> no idea.
[23:14] <alien64> still looking:P
[23:14] <eftepede> Hi.
[23:15] <Striking7> SSHing is a likely solution, samster34
[23:15] <Striking7> samster34: You'd have to start your SSH daemon on the computer with the problems though...
[23:15] <halakar> sinichiro, also, i am looking for a way to move the close/minimize/maximize button location to the right instead of the left.
[23:15] <Striking7> which would require console access... which...
[23:15] <alien64> let someone ssh into your box and fix it
[23:15] <Striking7> Well we know the issue there.
[23:15] <samster34> :)
[23:15] <sarnold> are you using init=/bin/sh or does it come up to a login: prompt?
[23:15] <samster34> alien64: gladly, if you can get it to a point where it has network connectivity and ssh running :)
[23:16] <halakar> i mean i don't see jack as far as being able to customize the thing
[23:16] <alien64> lol
[23:16] <eftepede> I've tried my ubuntu-server from 11.10, but since it's OpenVZ guest with 2.18.x on the host, my glibc just broke and I can't finish upgrade.
[23:16] <eftepede> What can I do?
[23:16] <monotoko> sarnold, looks like the last release was in 2009... might have to install Windows to a partition -sighs-
[23:16] <alien64> screw it reinstall that crap
[23:16] <eftepede> Manually change sources back to oneiric and do aptitude update and aptitude upgrade?
[23:16] <samster34> sarnold: so far I used nomodeset to get to the built in shell
[23:16] <Striking7> samster34: If you have another computer handy and are able to move the drive over, awesome.
[23:16] <Striking7> That's your answer.
[23:16] <monotoko> halakar, change your theme
[23:16] <sinichiro> halakar, gconftool -s /apps/met>gconftool -s /apps/met>gconftool -s /apps/metacity/general/button_layout -t string menu:minimize,maximize,close
[23:16] <samster34> Striking7: yeah just writing down where that black list is so I can turn this computer off and get the drive in here :P
[23:17] <Striking7> samster34: If not I know there are answers, but I have to go now :\
[23:17] <monotoko> some other themes have it on the right
[23:17] <samster34> Striking7: thanks for the help
[23:17] <stercor> Is 11.10->12.04 a good move?
[23:17] <sinichiro> halakar, just paste it into terminal
[23:17] <samster34> alien64: this is a fresh install
[23:17] <samster34> oh, you probably didn't mean me.
[23:17] <Striking7> Sure thing samster34. Best of luck.
[23:17] <samster34> brb
[23:17] <pndemc_> what's wrong with ubuntu's servers?
[23:17] <alien64> so fresh it dont work:P
[23:17] <Crowley2> @halakar, sinichiro: Doesn't ubuntu-tweak allow re-ordering of the buttons?
[23:17] <halakar> sinichiro, WTF ?  are you serious?
[23:18] <pndemc_> this distribution upgrade is going at 66.5KB/sec..
[23:18] <sinichiro> halakar, I am. it works
[23:18] <halakar> monotoko,
[23:18] <sinichiro> Crowley2, yeah, it does. But if you don't have tweak installed, this'll do. .)
[23:18] <halakar> hmm
[23:18] <Crowley2> Sure :-)
[23:18] <Hebram> I am interested in changing the icons of a few folders to custom icons.  Can someone please assist me?
[23:18] <sinichiro> halakar, It works only on non-maximized windows though.
[23:18] <halakar> crap
[23:18] <sarnold> sinichiro: I think your line was corrupted, "/apps/met>gconftool" doesn't look right :)
[23:19] <halakar> sinichiro, i did it - it worked - thanks.  hmm
[23:19] <halakar> sorry, i'm coming from the world of KDE
[23:19] <halakar> maybe i'd be more at home with Kubuntu
[23:19] <samster34> re
[23:19] <samster34> on the laptop again
[23:19] <samster34> this time with proper keyboard. I can't type on that thing to save my life
[23:20] <Crowley2> @Hebram: Right-click on folder, options. There You can change the icon of the folder.
[23:20] <Riddell> halakar: I recommend Kubuntu :)
[23:20] <Striking7|away> samster34: I'm headed out soon - PM me if you have any other issues and if I can help I'll PM you back next chance I get.
[23:20] <halakar> sinichiro, thanks for that - but is there no way to customize these sort of things via the gui? what about mounting another drive to a folder i.e /home/user/datafolder
[23:20] <Striking7|away> ox1de: Let me know if Xubuntu fixes things!
[23:20]  * Striking7|away is out
[23:20] <halakar> there's no gui tool for that - it has to be cli  ????
[23:20] <rawfodog> 8 hours to upgrade to the new ubuntu ????
[23:20] <Hebram> Crowley2:  Thank you!  I did not see that option earlier.  I will clean my glasses and look again.
[23:20] <rawfodog> lol
[23:21] <sarnold> halakar: do you want the same drive on the same directory "for all time"? Or do you want it "once in a while"?
[23:21] <Athanasius> What's the difference between OpenOffice and LibreOffice?
[23:21] <halakar> sarnold, well, i want this 1TB volume to always be accessible at /home/username/directory
[23:21] <alien64> open and libre:P
[23:21] <Riddell> Athanasius: quick answer OpenOffice was renamed to LibreOffice
[23:21] <rawfodog> Athanasius, libreoffice doesnt have trojans
[23:21] <prodige94> salut jsuis nouveau sur le chat
 I have the same issue
[23:21] <pndemc_> ubuntu's servers must be getting hammered
[23:22] <bazhang> Athanasius, try in #openoffice.org that is quite extensive to answer here
[23:22] <bazhang> rawfodog, thats enough
[23:22] <rawfodog> pndemc_, yeah. I wonder if I can cancel this download and try tomorrow or something
[23:22] <ThePendulum> How do I display only one notification area?
[23:22] <sarnold> halakar: because it would be easy enough to add the drive's /dev/disk/by-id/ symlink to your /etc/fstab file and have the same drive on the same directory all the time.
[23:22] <Athanasius> lol, alright.
[23:22] <ActionParsnip> Athanasius: http://superuser.com/questions/240647/openoffice-vs-libreoffice-whats-the-difference#240652
[23:22] <prodige94> ya des français ??
[23:22] <sinichiro> halakar, It doesn't have to be cli. You need an external program though. https://launchpad.net/ubuntu-tweak/0.7.x/0.7.0/+download/ubuntu-tweak_0.7.0-1~precise4_all.deb
[23:22] <ActionParsnip> !fr
[23:22] <halakar> sarnold, I know....I should be ashamed but it's been so damn long since i've messed with /etc/fstab
[23:23] <Hebram> Crowley2:  I do not see "options" as an option.  I do have "properties", but I see no where in the tabs to point to an icon file.
[23:23] <halakar> sinichiro, can i get that through this little "software center" thing ?
[23:23] <Sir_Leto> Does anyone know how I could make a bash script that makes my bluetooth headset ring? http://www.digipedia.pl/usenet/thread/18069/10936/ this might help.
[23:24] <wylde> Sir_Leto: I bet they'd have good answers over in #bash :)
[23:24] <sarnold> no, I doubt they would.
[23:24] <sinichiro> halakar, you might. Search for a program called Advances settings.
[23:24] <sarnold> wouldn't.
[23:24] <sinichiro> Advanced, rather
[23:24]  * rawfodog cancels ubuntu update
[23:24] <rawfodog> lets try sunday lol
[23:24] <ThePendulum> I am running 12.04 on a dualscreen, and the notification panel is displayed on both screens. How does one disable one of them?
[23:24] <natman> hello, on a fresh 12.04 install, how do i enter the Grub menu, i have it set to log in automatically and it is not a dual boot system
[23:25] <halakar> GNOME tweak tool ?
[23:25] <samster34> ok, now  nouveau wont even work on the desktop where its worked fine before...trying to run it in failsafe mode, and I get a window saing I'm running in low graphics mode....but I can't acknowledge. I have no mouse cursor.....AND the keyboard is dead. again...wtf
[23:25] <sinichiro> halakar, basically yeah
[23:25] <pengw> Hi all
[23:25] <ActionParsnip> natman: hold shift at boot
[23:25] <halakar> thanks for your help, gang.
[23:25] <pndemc_> is the best way to fix a windows grub listing to use the windows repair disk?
[23:25] <sinichiro> ThePendulum, go to system settings and open "displays"
[23:26] <halakar> after i get my rig all tweaked to my liking, i'll have to worry about bringing up a virtual machine and vsftpd, that's about it
[23:26] <wylde> !grub | pndemc_
[23:26] <pengw> when i try to upgrade it shows me that two app been back which include gummi and shutter. So I can I particularly upgrade these packet?
[23:26] <halakar> maybe wine for when i like to play half life on steam..
[23:26] <pengw> BTW 12.04 is nice
[23:27] <Fyodorovna> pndemc_, what is the actual problem?
[23:27] <bencc> what's the difference between gnome-session-fallback and gnome-panel?
[23:27] <pndemc_> after installing mint using wubi
[23:27] <pndemc_> the grub listing for windows no longer works
[23:27] <halakar> sarnold, so the best thing to do is just edit my /etc/fstab and put in the /dev/uid for my device and restart... ?
[23:27] <wylde> pndemc_: using windows disk will remove grub altogether.
[23:28] <Fyodorovna> pndemc_, you might run a chkdsk from the disc.
[23:28] <ThePendulum> bencc: gnome-panel is just the panel, where, afaik, gnome-session-fallback would be the entire gnome DE
[23:28] <pndemc_> the repair option would remove GRUB?
[23:29] <halakar> i wonder if i can snag my virtual machine file and just open it with virtual box
[23:29] <halakar> that would be nice
[23:29] <natman> I am trying to enable a Kernel option, i am at the page for boot option, can someone help me?
[23:29] <bencc> ThePendulum: thanks
[23:29] <sarnold> halakar: If it were my problem, yeah, I'd edit fstab -- but there's no need to restart. If you add the 'user' option to the mount options, then you can just run "mount /path/to/mountpoint" and it'll mount it immediately.
[23:29] <jerkface03> Can someone help me please? Trying to install openjdk 7... here's the command I ran: sudo apt-get install openjdk-jre-7
[23:29] <jerkface03> But it gives me an error saying that it's not able to locate the package
[23:29] <Fyodorovna> pndemc_, the bootloader you should be seeing with a wubi is the windows one, don't boot windows from the grub gui that you get from choosing ubuntu at the boot menu.
[23:29] <jerkface03> Using ubuntu server 12.04 lts
[23:29] <krababbel> pndemc_: I just did sudo grub-install /dev/sd.. to fix the menu
[23:29] <halakar> sarnold, do i have to specify options for fs type, etc?  it's an ext4 volume
[23:30] <sarnold> jerkface03: doesn't look like 7 is packaged yet: http://packages.ubuntu.com/search?keywords=openjdk-jre-7
[23:30] <jerkface03> sarnold: so what do I do?
[23:30] <Narc> Hello everyone, I'm using Precise on an Asus K53SD laptop and the brightness settings are forgotten with each reboot. Any idea on how to make them "stick" ? Thanks
[23:30] <synackfin> how do I view all packages that are not part of any repository anymore (after ugprading to 12.04) ?
[23:30] <quetzal> jerkface03: It's openjdk-7-jre. :-P
[23:30] <sarnold> quetzal: oh hell. :) nice.
[23:31] <synackfin> I want a list of packages still 'stuck' at 10.04
[23:31] <jerkface03> quetzal: nice.
[23:31] <jerkface03> thank you.
[23:31] <pndemc_> a little more information, the GRUB menu was for picking between two seperate drives, it's not just different partitions on the same drive
[23:31] <quetzal> jerkface03: No problem. :-)
[23:31] <krababbel> pndemc_: same for me
[23:31] <sarnold> halakar: I would specify ext4 if it is an ext4 system
[23:31] <pndemc_> the wubi was supposed to be on the same disk as windows
[23:31] <halakar> sigh, been so long since i've done this command line
[23:31] <Fyodorovna> pndemc_, bad use of a wubi, I'm not surprised your having problems.
[23:32] <ManuelSantana> just installed ubuntu 12.04
[23:32] <ManuelSantana> well not installed
[23:32] <ManuelSantana> livecd testing
[23:32] <krababbel> pndemc_: OK, not sure about what wubi does, but my first drive with windows still has windows boot manager on it, the second has grub, and I boot from the second
[23:32] <halakar> what about taking ownership of files/directories with nautilus?  it doesn't seem possible - do i have to chown/chgrp with CLI on this too ?
[23:33] <krababbel> pndemc_: I didn't want to touch the boot manager of windows, when i boot from the first drive, windows boots normally
[23:33] <pndemc_> yeah I now realize I should have done it manually
[23:33] <Guest47545> I need some help
[23:33] <dforthman> Is there a way to downgrade from 12.04 to 11.10 without having to download and burn another cd?
[23:33] <Garshall> heh
[23:33] <tbruff13> Guest36342, whats up
[23:33] <pndemc_> okay, so what's the next step?
[23:33] <tbruff13> dforthman, I do not think so
[23:33] <tbruff13> lets google it
[23:33] <sinichiro> halakar, with apps like Gnomw tweak and Ubuntu tweak, you can add a right-click option for ownership I think.
[23:33] <bazhang> dforthman, use a usb stick
[23:34] <krababbel> pndemc_: ubuntu installes grub to the drive which is set to boot first.
[23:34] <bazhang> !unetbootin | tbruff13 dforthman
[23:34] <Guest47545>  in the process of upgrading to precise pangolin. then it seemed to have 'gotten stuck' after downloading the packages so I restarted the computer and now ubuntu won't boot
[23:34] <halakar> sinichiro, are those apps reliable?  do not want to break anything
[23:34] <Narc> Hello everyone, I'm using Precise on an Asus K53SD laptop and the brightness settings are forgotten with each reboot. Any idea on how to make them "stick" ? Thanks
[23:34] <pndemc_> that would be the drive windows is installed on krababbel
[23:35] <dforthman> bazhang, I don't have a USB stick. Thanks for the help, though.
[23:35] <bazhang> Guest47545, at what point was it at? configuring packages?
[23:35] <Guest47545> yeah i think so
[23:35] <tbruff13> bazhang, I don't need that information
[23:35] <ManuelSantana> can i install ubuntu 12.04 on a secondary partition to dual boot windows?
[23:35] <wylde> dforthman: no, you'll have to do a reinstall to downgrade.
[23:35] <bazhang> tbruff13, it's possible, you seemed not to know it
[23:35] <tbruff13> ManuelSantana, yes you can
[23:35] <Guest47545> it just says general error mounting filesystems. a maintenance shell will now be started
[23:36] <ManuelSantana> it's an extended partition...does it matter?
[23:36] <tbruff13> bazhang, what is possible downgrading without making a CD/USB
[23:36] <bazhang> tbruff13, just the cd was what he asked
[23:36] <Guest47545> bazhang any ideas?
[23:36] <dforthman> tbruff13, i should have been more clear. instead of 'download and burn' i should have said 'fresh install'
[23:37] <bazhang> dforthman, fresh install is the only path for that
[23:37] <dforthman> bazhang, thanks.
[23:38] <Guest47545> it says mountall: /ib/x86_64-linux-gnu/libc.so.6: version GLIBC_2.14' not found
[23:38] <krababbel> pndemc_: then restore windows boot first, so grub can find it
[23:39] <krababbel> pndemc_: then set bios to boot from second and restore grub
[23:39] <biobunsai> so how many bugs does Ubu 12.04 have?
[23:39] <synackfin> how do I view all packages that are not part of any repository anymore (after ugprading to 12.04) ?  I want a list of packages 'stuck' on 10.04 or 8.04
[23:39] <sarnold> Guest47545: do you have sash installed on that machine? sash is a statically linked administration shell, it might be able to run well enough to let you fix that problem
[23:40] <Arthur_D> biobunsai: hopefully fewer than the normal releases
[23:40] <Guest47545> i don't know if I have sash. never heard of it before
[23:40] <Dan-The-Man> how can you stop unity from assuming the wallpaper
[23:40] <Dan-The-Man> average color
[23:40] <krababbel> pndemc_: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1581099
[23:41] <Guest47545> how do I find sash?
[23:41] <wylde> !find sash
[23:41] <wylde> !info sash
[23:42] <sarnold> Guest47545: if you installed it, it'll be in /bin/sash -- just type /bin/sash and see if it starts
[23:42] <bc``> i will paypal someone $20 if they can help me fix my problem
[23:42] <Guest47545> k
[23:42] <samster34> "Gave up waiting for root device" <--- what?
[23:42] <Jen> bc``: not necessarily the best way to get an answer.
[23:42] <pndemc_> okay thanks <krababbel>,
[23:42] <polardude1983> Hello, I am having trouble deleting duplicate sources. I do have ubuntu tweak installed too
[23:42] <JoseeAntonioR> Hi! I'd like to know how long should it take to restore previously installed packages?
[23:42] <krababbel> pndemc_: np :)
[23:42] <pndemc_> I'm gonna wait for my ubuntu 12.04 update to finish first
[23:43] <pndemc_> and then I'll pull out the repair disk
[23:43] <Guest47545> i dont have sash
[23:43] <bc``> i know, i'm just growing frusterated
[23:43] <bc``> im new and been working on this for 4 hours and its killing me
[23:43] <krababbel> pndemc_: yes, I think without the windows bootmanager intact, grub won't find it to put it in the menu
[23:44] <bc``> Command (m for help): w
[23:44] <bc``> The partition table has been altered!
[23:44] <bc``> Calling ioctl() to re-read partition table.
[23:44] <bc``> Syncing disks.
[23:44] <bc``> media@xbmc:~/videos$
[23:44] <FloodBot1> bc``: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[23:44] <bc``> i keep getting that when trying to format my disk
[23:44] <pndemc_> btw how do you message people like that? lol
[23:44] <bc``> pndemc: /msg
[23:44] <wylde> !tab | pndemc_
[23:44] <bc``> pndemc_: msg [name] [message]
[23:45] <dniMretsaM> Installed Ubuntu 12.04 minimal, but can't get X11 to run. When I run "sudo X -configure" I get this error: "Number of created screens does not match number of detected devices." Any help?
[23:45] <krababbel> pndemc_: I just used your nick autocomplete
[23:45] <sarnold> bc``: what's the problem?
[23:45] <daadaa> bye. bye free internet http://www.wired.com/threatlevel/2012/04/house-passes-cispa/
[23:45] <bc``> sarnold: I have no idea.  each time i try to format, i choose "t", then "83" then "w", and when it goes to write, it craps out like that
[23:45] <pndemc_> krababbel, wait, like this?
[23:45] <pndemc_> that makes it red for you?
[23:46] <tamit> exit
[23:46] <krababbel> pndemc_: yes
[23:46] <polardude1983> I am having trouble finding duplicate sources that the sudo apt-get update is giving me
[23:46] <pndemc_> krababbel, ohh, cool >_<
[23:46] <krababbel> pndemc_: depends on your irc client config though :)
[23:46] <wylde> pndemc_: for some it even makes noise! :)
[23:46] <Narc> Hello everyone, I'm using Precise on an Asus K53SD laptop and the brightness settings are forgotten with each reboot. Any idea on how to make them "stick" ? Thanks
[23:46] <Chaser> bc``,  the message that you see is normal AFAIK
[23:47] <sarnold> bc``: are you sure it _crapped out_? The w key is supposed to write and quit. Does fdisk -l /dev/whatever show the changes you made?
[23:47] <zykotick9> bc``: that looks like a sucessful fdisk outcome, to create a partition.  that's not the same as formatting!  that comes next.
[23:47] <pndemc_> krababbel, wylde, im on xchat, I'll edit mine so it makes noise lol
[23:47] <bazhang> !ot | daadaa
[23:48] <bc``> it says: Partition number (1-4, default 2): ^Cmedia@xbmc:~$ fdisk -l /dev/sdc
[23:48] <bc``> Cannot open /dev/sdc
[23:48] <zykotick9> bc``: just try "sudo fdisk -l" to list all paritions
[23:48] <JoseeAntonioR> I think ubiquity got stuck while restoring previously installed packges.
[23:49] <sarnold> bc``: you ran fdisk -l as a normal user, which will not have permission to list the partition on block devices; use sudo fdisk -l
[23:49] <bc``> it is showing there in fdisk -l
[23:49] <zykotick9> bc``: so format it now.
[23:50] <bc``> sudo fdisk -l /dev/sdc ?
[23:50] <zykotick9> bc``: that's partitioning AGAIN.  what format do you want it ext or fat/ntfs?
[23:50] <kfizz> Just upgraded to 12.04. Getting black screen. F7 terminal shows "checking battery state" as last entry. Sudo X	-configure errors because created screens doesn't match number of detected devices. Any ideas?
[23:51] <Guest47545> does anyone know how I can recover ubuntu? I was in the process of upgrading it when it froze and now ubuntu won't boot at all.
[23:51] <psy_> привет
[23:51] <bc``> oops sorry
[23:51] <wylde> Guest47545: how recent are your backups? heh.
[23:51] <bc``> ok.. does this make sense, then? sudo mkfs -t ext3 /dev/sdc
[23:52] <Guest47545> no idea
[23:52] <zykotick9> bc``: almost /dev/sdc1 (assuming 1 partiton)
[23:52] <bc``> ah yes
[23:52] <bc``> ty
[23:52] <sokak> hi dudes, silly question - i messed up with getlibs trying to revive dofus sound on a 64 bit install, i guess i've installed a bunch of crap... How do i remove the 32 bits libraries installed by getlibs? :3
[23:52] <psy_> кто знает,как толком вов звпустить?
[23:52] <wylde> Guest26174: does no idea mean you don't keep backups of your data outside your Ubuntu install?
[23:53] <wylde> !ru | psy_
[23:53] <sacarlson> Guest47545: depending on if you installed a fresh copy of 12.04 to a fresh unused partition or if you tried to upgrade a system on it's original partition
[23:53] <pndemc_> for setting up a web-server, what would people suggest, debian, ubuntu-se, or something else?
[23:53] <ThePendulum> I'm either drunk or I hit my head badly, but I somehow had no issue reading those Russian sentences.
[23:53] <Guest47545> the latter
[23:53] <wylde> pndemc_: I run mine on Ubuntu server. But it's just a hobby site really, very little traffic.
[23:54] <pmp6nl> Hello, if I have a separate home partition can I install 12.04 over 11.10 and it will keep all settings, etc?
[23:54] <sacarlson> Guest47545: then my guess is you will have to reinstall as fresh from a live boot cd of usb flash
[23:54] <pndemc_> my server will be handeling about 20GB transfer a day,
[23:54] <Guest47545> thats what i was afraid of. so i'll lose all my data
[23:54] <sacarlson> Guest47545: if you had anything of value on the disk you might want to try to recover it
[23:54] <Guest47545> how do i recover it?
[23:54] <zykotick9> pmp6nl: depending what you are installing over, some of those home directory setting could potentially cause issues... just something to watch out for.
[23:55] <sokak> Guest26174, just 7zip it on an external hdd.
[23:55] <wylde> Guest47545:  Best answer I have for you is to use a live cd to backup your data and expect to have to reinstall, if someone would care to tell me I'm wrong please do, this is one of those times I like being wrong :)
[23:55] <pndemc_> wylde, lamp, and tf2 game servers. would ubuntu still be a good choice?
[23:55] <sokak> good point zykotick9, better just backup personal data
[23:55] <sacarlson> Guest47545: boot a live cd or usb flash, try to mount the /home partition and copy the valued data to usb flash or other media
[23:55] <pmp6nl> zykotick9, Ok.  I am mainly wanting installed program settings
[23:56] <Guest47545> ok thanks sacarlson
[23:56] <dniMretsaM> still need some help configuring X11
[23:56] <zykotick9> pmp6nl: just test stuff against a different user account if you run into issues.
[23:56] <pmp6nl> zykotick9, ok thanks
[23:57] <wylde> pndemc_: my "home" server (just an OLD pc) is currently serving as an LTSP server for my thin client inj the garage, a backup server for all the machines on the network as well as a media server for streaming movies and music on the lan...so I guess so?
[23:58] <kfizz> (kfizz) Just upgraded to 12.04. Getting black screen. F7 terminal shows "checking battery state" as last entry. Sudo X	-configure errors because created screens doesn't match number of detected devices. Any ideas?
[23:58] <sokak> no one knows how to undo getlibs installed libraries? o well, time to take the plunge and jump from maverick to pangolin
[23:58] <wylde> pndemc_: ..err on top of my home hobby LAMP server... :)
[23:58] <pengw> hi
[23:59] <pengw> who know how to upgrade a particularly packet for example gummi
[23:59] <zykotick9> sokak: maverick would require multiple upgrades would it not?
[23:59] <pndemc_> wylde, do you use a GUI, or command-line only?
[23:59] <dniMretsaM> kfizz: I have a similar problem. same error, but I'm doing an install from a minimal CD
[23:59] <sokak> zykotick9, i was just too lazy to update - also 80k adsl here - i guess this getlibs tragedy is a good input to take the plunge ^^
[23:59] <pmp6nl> zykotick9, What happens with PPAs if I go this route?
[23:59] <wylde> pndemc_: the machine itself is headless. It does have an xserver installed but that's only for serving the thin client in the garage.
[23:59] <zykotick9> sokak: getlibs does have an uninstall