=== Cristiano is now known as Guest42810 [01:09] Is Xubuntu 12 actually out or is the website just being silly with us~ [01:10] !outyet [01:10] Nope! Ubuntu 12.04 is scheduled for release sometime on April 26th. You can party in #ubuntu-release-party while you're waiting! [01:10] the silly one [01:11] !party | Kennochas [01:11] Kennochas: Please remember that #ubuntu, #kubuntu, #xubuntu, and #edubuntu are support channels. To countdown to !Precise release and then party once it happens, join #ubuntu-release-party - For in-person parties, see http://loco.ubuntu.com/events/global/1598/detail/ [01:11] lol kk :) [01:11] website being silly then :) [01:13] !precise [01:13] Ubuntu 12.04 LTS (Precise Pangolin) is the 16th release of Ubuntu and is in Beta testing from 2nd March, Discussion and support until final release in #ubuntu+1 === zmoylan1 is now known as zmoylan [01:42] Kennochas: ah, I see what you mean, the countdown banner has flipped over to the new day :) [01:42] oops [02:02] yea pleia2 :) I was so confused trying to find it lol === emma_ is now known as emma === emma is now known as em [03:30] Hi? [03:30] !isitout | outyet [03:30] outyet: Nope! Ubuntu 12.04 is scheduled for release sometime on April 26th. You can party in #ubuntu-release-party while you're waiting! [03:30] By end of day UTC. [03:33] Hello? [03:35] Hello. [03:38] Hi [04:36] How do I completely wipe a HDD in Xubuntu? [04:37] I don't mean having to zero or scramble the data. I only mean to delete partitions and maybe even the partition table. [04:37] So that it appears (logically) as a clean slate to any disk utility. [04:43] k_sze: gparted should work fine [06:54] Hai [06:55] What time is Xubuntu released? [06:55] End of day UTC. [07:24] hi [07:24] how about Xubuntu release 12.04 ? [07:25] Ubuntu will be released by the end of 26th, UTC. [07:26] thank you [07:27] can I install beta version Xubuntu [07:32] Better off with a daily. [07:32] !daily [07:32] Daily builds of the CD images of the current development version of Xubuntu are available at http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/xubuntu/daily/current/ and http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/xubuntu/daily-live/current/ [07:38] thanks [07:44] url? [07:45] Marzata: To what? Please try to find the energy for a few more words into your requests. [07:45] http://xubuntu.org/news/the-countdown-is-on/ [07:45] url to download 12.04? [07:46] Marzata: later. [07:46] http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/xubuntu/ [07:46] http://xubuntu.org/news/the-countdown-is-on/ says now [07:46] !outyet [07:46] Nope! Ubuntu 12.04 is scheduled for release sometime on April 26th. You can party in #ubuntu-release-party while you're waiting! [07:46] i'm working on fixing it. [07:46] "Now" = today [07:46] it should read "soon", but the script is not working as it should. [07:47] in Finnish now is today? :D [07:47] short days probably [07:47] No. === xubuntu163 is now known as maeks [08:14] Anybody looking forward to the release? =) [08:14] Yes! [08:15] Gonna reinstall my laptop and workstation@work [08:15] for partying the release, please use #ubuntu-release-party or #xubuntu-offtopic, thanks :) [08:16] will do.. [08:17] thanks! [08:19] hi === Daviey_ is now known as Daviey === cousteau_ is now known as cousteau [08:49] Hello everyone, when 12.04 will be available ? today? [08:50] Ubuntu will be released by the end of 26th, UTC. === knome changed the topic of #xubuntu to: Official Xubuntu Support Channel | Xubuntu 12.04 will be released by the end of 26th, UTC. Join #xubuntu-offtopic to party with us! | Pastes to http://paste.ubuntu.com | No one around? Use the mailing list at http://lists.ubuntu.com/xubuntu-users | Offtopic: #xubuntu-offtopic [08:53] (too) [08:53] :P [08:54] Unit193 thx === knome changed the topic of #xubuntu to: Official Xubuntu Support Channel | Xubuntu 12.04 will be released during the 26th, UTC. Join #xubuntu-offtopic to party with us! | Pastes to http://paste.ubuntu.com | No one around? Use the mailing list at http://lists.ubuntu.com/xubuntu-users | Offtopic: #xubuntu-offtopic === cousteau_ is now known as cousteau [09:52] Hi everyone, is it ok to install the beta 2 version and keep it instead of reinstalling the final version? [09:53] LuisS: i'd be inclined to say yes. but the release is today, you know that, right? [09:53] I mean, will they be the smame in the end? [09:54] yes [09:54] Yes I know, but i've allready intalled the beta 2 :) [09:54] unless e.g. there are bugs in beta that pull extra packages [09:54] Great xubuntu, by the way! [09:55] afaik the beta just updates to the final release with the normal software updates [09:55] er, too slow [09:59] will the next release hav efixed that bug when you open hope rite after boot and lags 30 seconds till it start [09:59] ?? [10:00] * astraljava doesn't wanna hear about any exotic rites people perform while booting [10:00] Unless I've mistook something really badly. [10:01] f0x: thunar is slow to start? [10:01] hope == home ? [10:03] are all editions of ubuntu (xubuntu, kubuntu, lubuntu etc) released synomously with the main edition ? [10:03] bepebe, yes, all are released parallel [10:05] ta [10:12] Hi... im new in all these... and ive a question... if anyone can helpme i will be gratefully :D [10:13] !hi | Killuacba [10:13] Killuacba: Hi!, Welcome to #xubuntu! Feel free to ask questions and help people out. The channel guidelines are at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/IRC/Guidelines. Enjoy your stay! [10:13] Uh oh, well now it begins to make sense again. [10:15] thx to all.. the question is... i ve a laptop... a Compaq NX6125 whit a Sempron and 256 DDR... and i dunno what ubuntu or xubuntu download ^^ [10:15] im 0 knowledge of linux code [10:16] 256mB will make things like web browsers slow in any os, xubuntu would be better than ubuntu with that tho [10:18] im trying to install xubuntu whit the wubi but i guess is the last release and is very slowly the install (sory for my bad english, im from argentina) [10:19] it will be slow because you don't have much memory I guess [10:21] im thinking to download an older release... but i dunno if that will have sense... (be more fast ) or just wait to the install finish... [10:21] i am waiting for precise pangolin [10:21] lots of ppl are [10:21] hello anyone here [10:21] ??? [10:21] !isitout [10:21] Nope! Ubuntu 12.04 is scheduled for release sometime on April 26th. You can party in #ubuntu-release-party while you're waiting! [10:21] oh didn't see you there [10:22] ;) [10:22] why is it late? [10:22] It's not late at all. [10:22] it's still the 26th [10:23] Barely the 26th, I haven't even gone to sleep yet. [10:23] here is 07.23 AM xD [10:23] 8:30pm here [10:24] i am from pakistan and the date and time is 25/04/2012 3:23 [10:24] pm [10:24] not even the 26th ? [10:24] no [10:24] you can check if you want [10:25] but you said the release was late ? [10:25] thats mean.... im from the future... (?) i can tell you that "tomorrow" atn 07.25 am you will be in my place and chatting here (?) [10:25] yeah it said (Yesterday) 1 day to go [10:26] and it is 25 here so i thought it was one day late [10:26] yesterday utc [10:26] !utc [10:26] what dows UTC mean? [10:26] Universal Time [10:27] Clock [10:27] ok [10:27] sorry [10:27] its the same that GMT0 [10:27] ok i am off to the party [10:27] ^^ [10:27] owww install crashes again T_T [10:27] cyas Shayan [10:28] and what IRC client are you guys using? [10:28] I use xchat [10:28] webclient... right now [10:28] me too(xchat) [10:29] Shayan, well_laid_lawn, Killuacba: #xubuntu-offtopic please [10:30] install chrashed again... what do you think guys? i try to install an older release or just quit ? [10:31] how much memory is windows using when you try the wubi install ? [10:31] !wubi [10:31] Wubi is an Ubuntu installer for Windows users that allows you to install and uninstall Ubuntu like a Windows application, in a simple and safe way. http://wubi-installer.org/support.php and https://wiki.ubuntu.com/WubiGuide for troubleshooting. Please file bugs at http://launchpad.net/wubi/+filebug. For Ubuntu Oneiric/11.10 http://releases.ubuntu.com/oneiric/wubi.exe [10:32] dunno.. when i try to install its says "you have 2xx mb, maeby will crash" [10:32] there you go then [10:32] !dualboot [10:32] Dual boot instructions: x86/AMD64: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/DualBoot/Windows - Macs: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/MacBookPro https://help.ubuntu.com/community/YabootConfigurationForMacintoshPowerPCsDualBoot [10:33] i know... i dunno thought it will really crash ^^ [10:34] the weird thing is that freezes wen installing but after reboot the computer and when i choose "xubuntu" and install [10:36] why xubuntu is latest ? :( [10:37] I'm going to go with [10:37] !isitout [10:37] Nope! Ubuntu 12.04 is scheduled for release sometime on April 26th. You can party in #ubuntu-release-party while you're waiting! [10:38] !andnow [10:38] thx a lot for your help [10:39] cheers [10:56] hello , im following the updates and i get this error [10:56] The action would require the installation of packages from not authenticated sources. [10:57] and wont download the packages , does anyone have a clue how to resolve this ? [10:57] what did you do to get that error? [11:36] Hi - i have installed compiz and notice that my fps has dropped by a bit. are there any tweaks out there that anyone knows of? (have a reasonable graphics card) [11:57] xubuntu 12.04 delayed? [11:58] hope not :( [11:58] is released [11:58] coz ubuntuis [12:01] still not out :/ [12:01] yup ubuntu webby now showing 12.04 [12:01] http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/xubuntu/releases/12.04/release/ [12:01] no more beta [12:01] it should be coming out here [12:01] pedza: been like that for 3 hours... :( [12:02] Yes, the admins are working on it. Please bear in mind that there are tens of images hosted on those servers, and half the world is downloading/refreshing the pages. There might be slowness in the servers. Have patience, please. [12:03] .... although the linked DL fails on webby [12:03] half the world..... as if [12:04] lubuntu is out [12:04] i downloaded ubuntu 12.04 a couple of minutes ago via torrent successfully [12:05] yeah [12:05] kubuntu is out [12:05] X marks the spot? [12:06] update manager doesnt find anything but its gonna be a long day ;) [12:08] is xubuntu release [12:08] d [12:08] ? [12:08] its because its the best :) [12:08] link for downlaod [12:08] ? [12:08] whereisit wherisit :) [12:08] *fit* [12:09] nowhere yet [12:09] doh! [12:09] \part [12:09] whenwillitbe?a [12:09] If you are so impatient - update-manager -d [12:09] -_- [12:10] na i need an image [12:10] so wait a bit more ;] [12:10] right now i am in a badly screwed up mint12 version... [12:10] desperately needing an oschange :) [12:11] https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/ubuntu-announce/2012-April/000159.html [12:11] Kate is not sexy [12:12] did amd64 images for xubuntu get tested enough to be released? [12:13] not yet [12:14] hehe so i am gonna test drive it :] [12:14] 12.04 lts officially announced 12.04pm uk time [12:14] funny eh ubuntu [12:14] flaxo, install 11.10 or 10.04 if you are in hurry [12:14] na [12:14] i am not in a hurry [12:15] i am just impatiant :) [12:15] no worry [12:15] i'll stick around... [12:15] :D [12:15] the day is already half over in "the east" [12:16] it's 14:15 here [12:16] well get the beers out then [12:16] so I guess 13:15 in London [12:16] correct [12:16] UK is in GMT+1 now, right? [12:17] yup [12:17] bst [12:17] when is it gonna hit the shelfs? [12:17] ST like Summer Time? :> [12:18] ubuntu PR links to xubuntu release PR which atm 404's so i guess we know xubuntu 12.04 is still in oven [12:18] hi ppl, ive a doubt, if i copypaste the content of the install cd to a usbdrive ill can install the xubuntu or i just need another thing??? (im trying to install 10.04 version) [12:18] well what passes for summer in uk wizard [12:20] not an expert but u need a utility to create usb bootable [12:20] i think [12:20] Killuacba: use unetbootin or the startup media creator in ubuntu itself [12:20] ive never use linux bfore ^^ [12:21] unetbootlin i believe [12:21] Killuacba: first of all, i would prefer to wait until the 12.04 iso is available today [12:21] then you can use unetbootin in windows to create a bootable usb-stick [12:21] ive an old laptop [12:22] whit a sempron and 256 DDR ram ^^ === flaxo is now known as flaxoffline [12:22] imo forget ubuntu get tiny core linux === flaxoffline is now known as flaxo [12:23] for that spec [12:23] thats why i dont try whit new xubuntu... ive allready try 11 but crashed when install [12:23] released? [12:23] it wont be any better [12:24] could try bodhi linux which is ubuntu lts with enlightnment desktop [12:24] why didnt release amd64 yet [12:24] ? [12:24] bodhi sounds indian? [12:25] Killuacba: did you consider android for that :) [12:25] no xubuntu is released yet, they where asking for amd64 testers as late as 2 days ago on xubuntu mailing list saying not enough testing done to be released [12:25] android for my laptop??? [12:26] bodhi is a us distro i run it on a 256mb p2 333 laptop lol [12:26] what do i need to do to help with testing? [12:27] the issue is that i need it in Spanish for my sister... [12:28] she is from Fuerte? [12:28] im from argentina xD [12:30] Killuacba: "Maradona by Kusturica" is a great movie. [12:30] xD [12:32] the land of gaucho's big steak's and the hand of god ;) [12:34] yes it is [12:35] and frey bentos lol [12:36] http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/xubuntu/releases/12.04/ empty? [12:39] if u say so [12:49] well no party here it seems [12:49] no, the party is #ubuntu-release-party [12:50] i went to it last year.. didnt get the party part :P [12:50] no party for xubuntu yet i mean [12:50] ubuntu and kubuntu were released [12:51] ikonia, any eta on the xubuntu release? [12:52] no idea [12:52] xubuntu and lubuntu don't seem to be prepped [12:56] hehe some user said i better upgrade to the beta if i wanted to upgrade right away [12:56] upgrading now.. doesnt take 100 years lol [12:57] done soon [12:57] lubuntu is out [12:58] we are in xubuntu :) [13:00] pmo, maybe they are releasing in alphabetical order? [13:00] n2diy: what do you mean? [13:00] xubuntu is out too [13:00] i am upgrading [13:00] pmo, lubuntu comes before xubuntu. [13:00] hehe [13:02] kubuntu is out too [13:02] arent they all out at once? [13:02] neh [13:02] seems like ubuntu and xubuntu were at the same time :P [13:03] CD images != package archives. If you wanna talk about the new release, please take it to #xubuntu-offtopic or #ubuntu-release-party, this channel is for support. [13:03] There wasn't any chat here until we started discussing the release! [13:04] n2diy: Yes, but you don't know when support discussion might initiate. Thanks for your understanding. [13:04] astraljava: are you germa? [13:05] No. [13:06] @n2diy this channel is usually fairly quiet at this time of day, but the odd support question does come in. [13:08] Sandi, yes I know, I've been coming here for years, seeking and giving support. ah, but I'm off topic again! [13:08] :-) [13:10] Sandi, SandJ, sorry, can't read my own monitor. [13:11] where can i find xubuntu to download [13:11] the iso i mean [13:13] pedza, 12.04? Not released yet. [13:13] xubuntu have been changed download 12.04 to coming soon 12.04 without official date [13:13] :/ [13:14] yes, i agree [13:14] http://torrent.ubuntu.com/xubuntu/releases/precise/release/desktop/ [13:14] i386 is avaialbe [13:14] excellent [13:14] thanks :) [13:14] i will be seeding [13:14] waiting for amd64 [13:15] :P [13:15] ant what about x64 ?? [13:15] no http source yet? [13:15] nope [13:15] waiting :( [13:15] thanks [13:15] behind a darn proxy. No torrents [13:16] !mirrors [13:16] Ubuntu installation CDs can be downloaded from http://releases.ubuntu.com - Mirrors can be found at http://wiki.ubuntu.com/Mirrors - PLEASE use the !torrents to download !Precise, and help keeping the servers' load low! [13:16] http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/xubuntu/releases/precise/release/ ... nothing [13:18] get the torrent [13:19] Hi! [13:19] Is Transmisson the torrent app? [13:20] yes [13:21] anyone knows when 12.04 will be available? [13:21] www.xubuntu.org down n out [13:22] Supp > http://torrent.ubuntu.com/xubuntu/releases/precise/release/desktop/ [13:22] only i386 [13:22] http://xubuntu.org/ is down [13:23] web sites are changing of developers [13:23] ok, but it's painfully slow :) [13:23] use torrent [13:23] probably no electricity in .fi [13:24] i am using torrent [13:25] supp> torrent me going 1Mb/s [13:25] no electricity in Finland, realy [13:25] http://xubuntu.org/news/12-04-release/ is up [13:26] cant get over 200 kb/s ... [13:26] yes. they import from Russia. [13:28] gah [13:28] Marzata> Have you god info source [13:28] what idiot thought changing to was a great idea? [13:28] i'm assuming somebody self-involved in the X.org project? [13:28] sorry good [13:28] Alan: yes? [13:29] it's just such a stupid "break everything" decision to make [13:29] not like it was broken before... [13:30] torrents going 100kib/s for me barely :/ [13:30] same here [13:31] ratio is already 2.05 and an hour to go :D [13:31] heh [13:31] i'll just have to patiently wait for the amd64 ISO [13:33] how come that torrent was uploaded at morning but still no direct download? [13:33] there is [13:33] http://torrent.ubuntu.com/xubuntu/releases/precise/release/desktop/xubuntu-12.04-desktop-i386.iso [13:33] forbidden... [13:34] gah [13:34] please be patient, release days are always a bit crazy with mirror syncing and such [13:34] take the torrent [13:35] yeah no problem, just saying :) === flaxo is now known as flaxoffline [13:37] Can't wait for the release! As close as it's is now is as close that it's ever been! [13:38] hello, what's the "approved" method of exporting xfce desktop settings across different computers (e.g. panel settings etc.) ? [13:39] I'm not sure if there's a better method, but the ~/.config directory doesn't seem to contain much absolute-path or user-specific information, and I've migrated it successfully in the path. You can grep for $HOME and $USER to see [13:39] err s/in the path/in the past/ [13:41] you know what's awesome? having a local mirror of the repos [13:41] apt-mirror ftw [13:42] Funny thing happend with xubuntu 11.10 the other day. The touchpad right click button started working! Then after the netbook suspended it stopped working and was just another left click button again... [13:42] i don't have to put up with the mirrors catching fire at a new release [13:42] wee! http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/xubuntu/releases/12.04/release/ === flaxoffline is now known as flaxo [13:43] damn it! [13:43] Supp3rMario: you're mean [13:44] lol why? [13:44] getting my hopes up? [13:45] yeah was banging my head against the wall too :P [13:45] ruien: thanks, i grepped and there's no $USER present in any files [13:45] -_- [13:46] you know what comes to mind right now? that awesome error page reddit has, with the "F5 hammer" [13:46] xubuntu810: yeah, between the same versions of xfce the main files should be portable, but you have to see where the theme and icon files are being pulled from and be sure they're present too. If there was a more official way to migrate, I'd be interested in that as well. [13:47] Alan: how much space does your apt-mirror take up? I have been considering that since downloads are slow from china, but I wasn't sure what sort of space requirements I'd run into [13:47] so will you be my legal download today or will i have to look up some thing else? [13:48] ruien: one sec, i'll find out for you [13:48] Why Xubuntu 12.04 LTS is supported only for 3 years? Ubuntu 12.04 LTS is supported for 5 years. [13:48] Ubuntu has more money perhaps? [13:49] typo? [13:49] how does the debian project handle it [13:49] xubuntu405: We have our own policies, different desktop environment upstream etc. This was under careful consideration. [13:49] xubuntu405: 5 years on server, 3 on desktop [13:49] IIRC [13:49] or did ubuntu bump desktop support to 5 years? [13:49] 3 years is still very good i think [13:49] ubuntu bumpted desktop support to 5 years for 12.04, although I personally don't see the point (for server it certainly makes sense) [13:50] pod: So right-click on touchpad only worked once? [13:50] ruien: why don't you see the point? XP has been supported for a decade or so and people still use it. A lot of desktop users have Scientific Linux or CentOS for long term usae [13:51] mimoid: Yes, community-supported projects vary. It happens. [13:51] If I install Ubuntu 12.04 and then xfce-desktop package, will xfce-desktop -packebe be supported for 5 years? [13:51] yeah, or for a while at least. even the holding down leftclick with one finger and draging a file with another finger worked for a while. [13:51] hmm, I guess because the "core" which need the security patches would usually be available on the server edition anyway. If sshd needs an update, you'll still get it. [13:51] I'm wondering what xubuntu405 is saying [13:51] pod: Are you planning to upgrade to precise anytime soon? [13:52] to precies? i will upgrade to 12.04 as soon as i can :) [13:52] xubuntu405: No, it's not Canonical-supported. [13:53] pod: Yes, 12.04 is code-named precise pangolin. Ok, then I won't try to triage your touchpad problem. Please report back after the upgrade. [13:54] ruien: my apt-mirror is 182GB - that is {release}, {release}-updates and {release}-security for amd64 only, for every release from lucid to precise [13:54] Ah, right. Thanks! [13:54] I wish Xubuntu 12.04 LTS desktop support would be 5 years... 3 years is not enough for me :=) [13:54] pfft [13:54] 6 months is too long :p [13:54] Thanks Alan - my current "solution" is a shell script I threw together http://download.ryansanden.com/axel-get.sh [13:54] xubuntu405: we could always use more volunteers to make 14.04 be an LTS :) (xubuntu is all volunteers) [13:54] err, a 5 year LTS [13:55] ruien: interesting [13:55] and yeah, a 5-year support cycle is great... if you want a half-decade-old desktop that competes with CentOS [13:56] from china a single update can literally go at 5k/sec, but with axel you can still get an acceptable 100k or so [13:56] but having used CentOS, it's completely worthless as a desktop environment because everything is so unbelievably old [13:56]