| Riddell | 344.714 GB of downloads from my mirror, which is listed 5th | 00:19 |
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| nixternal | nice | 00:28 |
| nixternal | i have leached big time from fermilab over the past couple of days. trying to see if i can change the graphs on their mirror with all of my syncing and downloading | 00:28 |
| afiestas | would be possible to make Kubuntu releases in a different date than Ubuntu's ? | 00:49 |
| micahg | afiestas: why would you want to do that? | 01:11 |
| afiestas | micahg: today news are about Ubuntu not Kubuntu | 01:11 |
| afiestas | I'd like to avoid that for example | 01:11 |
| afiestas | also we could (if we want) adjust teh release time to something that syncs better with KDE | 01:12 |
| afiestas | though current timing is ok in that regart I think | 01:12 |
| micahg | afiestas: well, the main issue would be the archive freezes affect everyone equally, so releasing at a different time becomes problematic, I think as Kubuntu grows in popularity and starts to add it owns features as well, I think it should be able to generate its own press even with the same release day | 01:14 |
| micahg | s/it owns/its own/ | 01:14 |
| afiestas | ubuntu is a start too big to eclipse right now | 01:15 |
| micahg | well, IMHO, I don't think you have to eclipse Ubuntu, just be big enough to be news worthy in your own right | 01:16 |
| afiestas | Kubuntu is news worthy in its own right, you can see it by bluesystem sponsoring | 01:18 |
| afiestas | but as it is right now, Kubuntu is considered Ubuntu + KDE so by making a new for Ubuntu you also "cover"kubuntu | 01:18 |
| micahg | well, that could just mean they see the potential there and want to foster it | 01:19 |
| micahg | right, that's exactly what it is now as the project decided to be as close to upstream as possible due to resource limitations | 01:19 |
| afiestas | I don't think be clsoe to upstream is a bad thing | 01:20 |
| micahg | not at all :) | 01:20 |
| afiestas | maybe a risky mvoe but a good one would be release 1 month after KDE stable releases | 01:22 |
| afiestas | shipping .1 | 01:22 |
| afiestas | risky because of testability time, but in the other hand kde software is getting more stable | 01:22 |
| micahg | no, that was a disaster IIRC with maverick | 01:22 |
| afiestas | maverick is how many kde versions ago? | 01:24 |
| afiestas | a lot xD | 01:24 |
| micahg | well, FTR, I don't have any official say in Kubuntu, I just help out when I can | 01:24 |
| afiestas | neither do i | 01:25 |
| yuriy | congratulations on the release everyone!! | 02:10 |
| ScottK | afiestas: We've had releases where due to the combined KDE and Ubuntu release schedule we shipped 4.x.1. I've liked 4.x.2 based releases a lot better. | 02:43 |
| * ScottK waves to yuriy. | 02:43 | |
| ScottK | afiestas: From a strictly mechincal point of view it would be very close to impossible to release on a different day than Ubuntu. | 02:53 |
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| Darkwing | Quantal Quetzal? Okay. | 04:04 |
| tsimpson | !12.10 | 04:07 |
| ubottu | Ubuntu 12.10 (Quantal Quetzal) will be the 17th release of Ubuntu, Discussion and support until final release in #ubuntu+1 | 04:07 |
| tsimpson | I guess Q isn't the easiest letter to use though | 04:07 |
| Darkwing | At least a Quetzal is beautiful :) | 04:08 |
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| Tm_T | vorian: hmn? | 05:44 |
| Tm_T | vorian: you seem to suggest that JR would be leaving us (when he's not) https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/kubuntu-devel/2012-April/006036.html | 05:47 |
| * micahg should probably subscribe to that list | 05:47 | |
| TeLLuS | Interesting. In the new Muon it is no longer possible to see the package-names that will update or install only the short description.. After installation you can se it by looking at the History... | 05:59 |
| artnay | is there something wrong with the torrents? yesterday I downloaded both 32 and 64 bit torrents from http://torrent.ubuntu.com/kubuntu/releases/precise/release/desktop/ - now they're gone and torrent.ubuntu.com gives me "not authorized" | 06:13 |
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| BluesKaj | 'morning all | 10:45 |
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| apol | can I cancel a pending build in launchpad? | 14:48 |
| Riddell | apol: no I don't think so | 14:52 |
| apol | meh xD | 14:53 |
| Riddell | actually I know no | 14:53 |
| apol | ok thanks :) | 14:53 |
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| txwikinger2 | I am really amazed how everything looks always so much better in every new release! | 16:34 |
| Riddell | txwikinger2: :) | 16:35 |
| yofel | Riddell, apol: you *can* abort pending builds now (just not pending recipe builds) | 16:45 |
| yofel | as long as you have the permissions for that archive | 16:45 |
| Riddell | oh interesting | 16:45 |
| Riddell | yofel: but why would you want to? | 16:45 |
| Riddell | buildds being in limited supply is an issue sometimes especially on arm | 16:46 |
| Riddell | why else is it useful? | 16:46 |
| yofel | build got stuck? otherwise dunno | 16:46 |
| claydoh | is there an issue with the i386 precise torrent? | 17:00 |
| claydoh | http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/kubuntu/releases/precise/release/kubuntu-12.04-desktop-i386.iso.torrent | 17:00 |
| Riddell | claydoh: I've not tried it | 17:05 |
| claydoh | it has a tracker error rejected by tracker - Requested download is not authorized foruse with this tracker. | 17:05 |
| claydoh | all other torrents I am seeding are fine (ubuntu and kubuntu 64bit) | 17:06 |
| artnay | claydoh: 09:13 artnay : is there something wrong with the torrents? yesterday I downloaded both 32 and 64 bit torrents from http://torrent.ubuntu.com/kubuntu/releases/precise/release/desktop/ - now they're gone and torrent.ubuntu.com gives me "not authorized" | 17:38 |
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| yofel | artnay: they were moved, now to be found in http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/kubuntu/releases/precise/release | 17:40 |
| claydoh | yofel: I get the error there, it downloads but wont seed | 17:43 |
| yofel | I don't know who manages the tracker, I'm seeding over DHT | 17:43 |
| yofel | hm wait | 17:44 |
| yofel | tracker is actually being used here | 17:44 |
| claydoh | its just the i386 desktop iso giving the error | 17:44 |
| claydoh | yofel: "rejected by tracker - Requested download is not authorized for | 17:45 |
| claydoh | use with this tracker." | 17:45 |
| yofel | that's what I also always get at the beginning, but it seems to connect after a while anyway | 17:45 |
| * claydoh wonders who to let know | 17:45 | |
| claydoh | yes, it dowonloads but doesn't seed | 17:46 |
| yofel | rtorrent: | 17:46 |
| yofel | 0: http://torrent.ubuntu.com:6969/announce | 17:46 |
| yofel | Id: Focus: no Enabled: yes Open: no S/L: 425/149 | 17:46 |
| yofel | for desktop amd64 | 17:46 |
| claydoh | im fine for that, as well as the Ubuntu 64 bit | 17:47 |
| claydoh | just i386 | 17:47 |
| ScottK | TeLLuS: I believe I already filed a bug on the Muon package name thing, but if you don't find it, please do. | 17:49 |
| claydoh | ScottK: do you know whom to poke about an iso torrent tracker issue? | 17:50 |
| ScottK | I know there was an issue with the Ubuntu torrents discovered after yesterday's release. I'd ask in #ubuntu-release and see who answers. | 17:51 |
| claydoh | ok thanks | 17:51 |
| shadeslayer | Congrats on the release! | 18:23 |
| Riddell | and thanks for your help shadeslayer | 18:26 |
| shadeslayer | pfftt ... I did some really trivial stuff | 18:27 |
| shadeslayer | you and yofel did most of the heavy lifting | 18:27 |
| BluesKaj | shadeslayer, kmail could use some attention ...hint hint :) | 18:30 |
| shadeslayer | :D | 18:30 |
| jussi | Riddell: I just got the kmix crash with skype again - just randomly crash without me doing anything, only condition that i noticed was that I was on a call at the time. and video does some strange things, get some green lines and noise on the video, making it unwatchable. Installing debug symbols now to report the bug | 18:36 |
| Riddell | blog http://blogs.kde.org/node/4573 | 18:36 |
| Riddell | including a bit of canonical love at the bottom to keep those manager happy | 18:36 |
| Riddell | well and to thank them for nice support | 18:37 |
| Riddell | jussi: https://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=290742 | 18:37 |
| ubottu | KDE bug 290742 in general "kmix is crashing after multiple volume changes" [Crash,Assigned: ] | 18:38 |
| jussi | Riddell: Ill report mine and then your or someone can have a look and see if its same | 18:38 |
| Riddell | yeah adding to the kde bug wouldn't hurt, I've no spare cycles just now I'm afraid | 18:38 |
| jussi | Riddell: no probs | 18:39 |
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| shadeslayer | zomg | 18:44 |
| shadeslayer | that logo is win | 18:44 |
| shadeslayer | Riddell: I <3 the banner | 18:44 |
| jussi | what logo | 18:44 |
| jussi | oh, _that_ one!!!!!!!!!! | 18:45 |
| jussi | wow! | 18:45 |
| ScottK | Riddell: I think the commentary about Canonical in your blog post was on the mark (pun intended). | 18:45 |
| jussi | love it! | 18:45 |
| shadeslayer | hehehe | 18:46 |
| * shadeslayer is trying to answer emails and his stupid cursor keeps jumping | 18:46 | |
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| ryanakca | Hmm, I've received an email from someone wanting to donate to Kubuntu and suggesting the addition of a Donate button to the website. IIRC, we don't have said button because of the legal and financial headache it would cause? | 18:47 |
| Riddell | ryanakca: mostly because we have nowhere to donate to | 18:49 |
| Riddell | but I'll give him my bank account details if he really wants :) | 18:49 |
| jussi | ryanakca: yeah, we would need some foundation and other strange organisational stuff if I understand correct | 18:49 |
| Riddell | actually maybe it can go in the account blue systems is setting up for us (just a brainstorm) | 18:49 |
| * ryanakca nods | 18:50 | |
| Riddell | ryanakca: so tell him thanks much and come back in a couple of months | 18:50 |
| ryanakca | Riddell: Will do. | 18:51 |
| * BluesKaj wonders if canonical is going to retain the "Kubuntu Trademark", so we can rid of these "obscure animal handles " :) | 18:51 | |
| jussi | I like the animals! | 18:52 |
| ScottK | BluesKaj: re the animals: We're still part of the Ubuntu project and so things like that aren't going to change. | 18:53 |
| BluesKaj | ScottK, what about Blue Systems , maybe thay have other ideas | 18:54 |
| ScottK | BluesKaj: It doesn't matter. It's part of how development works in Ubuntu. | 18:55 |
| ScottK | Kubuntu has always been and will still be community led. | 18:55 |
| ScottK | The fact that one person is changing employers doesn't affect that. | 18:55 |
| BluesKaj | led by the animals :) | 18:55 |
| maco | *cough*2*cough* | 18:56 |
| Riddell | maco: oh you're changing too? yay :) | 18:56 |
| maco | i thought it was you and agateau_ | 18:57 |
| maco | you are a person. agateau_ is a person. a + a = 2! | 18:57 |
| jussi | Riddell: there is like a million reports about kmix crashing... :/ | 18:58 |
| ScottK | maco: agateau_ wasn't a Kubuntu developer, so he's a bonus. | 18:58 |
| ScottK | It's one moved and one gained. | 18:58 |
| maco | ScottK: he's not part of ~kubuntu-dev? | 18:58 |
| ScottK | No and he was part of DX, not the distro team. | 18:58 |
| maco | i knew he wasnt distro team | 18:59 |
| Riddell | jussi: I know, it's nasty, but meh upstream | 18:59 |
| maco | but i thought he was ~k-dev | 18:59 |
| Riddell | jussi: I have a hunch it didn't crash in 4.8.0 so you could look at tracking down 4.8.0 and verifying if that makes the crash go away | 18:59 |
| ScottK | Even if he was, Kubuntu development was not part of his job. | 18:59 |
| maco | i know | 18:59 |
| maco | but its still two people changing jobs! | 18:59 |
| ScottK | True. | 18:59 |
| ScottK | Riddell: Kmix is allegedly fixed for 4.8.3. If it's bad enough should be look at packaging a snapshot of just kmix for an SRU? | 19:00 |
| ScottK | I've only had one crash here, so I'm not sure how widespread this is (it's not everyone). | 19:00 |
| Riddell | ScottK: that would be a better way yes | 19:01 |
| yofel | snapshot from where? the repositories are broken | 19:01 |
| yofel | i.e. read-only | 19:01 |
| Riddell | ScottK: it's pretty widespread I'm feeling | 19:01 |
| yofel | ah, that was only for trunk, nvm me | 19:03 |
| jussi | Riddell: and anyone else interested, I just made a new bug, can mark it as a dupe sometime if need be: https://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=298926 | 19:07 |
| ubottu | KDE bug 298926 in general "Kmix Crashes randomly" [Crash,Unconfirmed: ] | 19:07 |
| ScottK | http://taschenorakel.de/mathias/2012/04/18/fulltext-search-benchmarks/ <-- Nepomuk FTL. | 19:18 |
| tazz | upgraded main laptop to 12.04 | 19:20 |
| Riddell | tazz: is it working? | 19:40 |
| swecarp | ty all t6hat have worked on the 12,04 fore a great produkt | 19:58 |
| Ezim | swecarp, +1. best kubuntu release. | 20:01 |
| swecarp | ty Ezim | 20:02 |
| Ezim | swecarp, the kubuntu team is the best linux team I have come across. I really like this guys/girls. | 20:02 |
| Riddell | Ezim: aww shucks | 20:54 |
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