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| Dave_Hunt | Hello all | 16:16 |
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| Pendulum | hi Dave_Hunt | 16:24 |
| Dave_Hunt | Oh, hi, didn't hear you at first. Just installed the full release of 12.04; trying to get things talking right. | 16:25 |
| DomasoFan | hi all. | 19:33 |
| DomasoFan | anyone knows an accessible twitter client for ubuntu? | 19:37 |
| colonelqubit | What's the preferred method for running gnome magnifier under ubuntu? (11.10 or 12.04) | 20:57 |
| colonelqubit | Orca runs pretty well on both, and I especially liked the ability for me to run it off of a 12.04 b2 live-cd. | 20:58 |
| colonelqubit | Theoretically there's a magnifier component to orca, but I don't see a tab for it in Orca preferences. Thoughts before I file a bug? | 20:59 |
| DomasoFan | anyone knows a accessible twitter client? | 21:05 |
| colonelqubit | DomasoFan: what have you tried so far? | 21:06 |
| DomasoFan | colonelqubit: well i tried gwibber but that seems not to be that accessible. | 21:07 |
| colonelqubit | gotcha | 21:07 |
| colonelqubit | Someone mentioned empathy, but I can't find the page right now | 21:08 |
| DomasoFan | well its preinstalled with ubuntu 12.04 | 21:08 |
| colonelqubit | (and I've never used empathy w/twitter... not sure about that) | 21:08 |
| DomasoFan | colonelqubit: as an audio player i currently use audacious. its quite nice | 21:08 |
| colonelqubit | DomasoFan: Are you using orca? | 21:09 |
| DomasoFan | yeah | 21:09 |
| colonelqubit | cool | 21:09 |
| DomasoFan | colonelqubit: my main pc still runs windows but my old laptop runs ubuntu now. testing ubuntu now a few years. | 21:10 |
| colonelqubit | I'm trying to help a friend start using ubuntu, but I have several hurdles (she has poor vision, she has basically no computer experience, and she's a few thousand miles away) | 21:11 |
| DomasoFan | colonelqubit: *lol*. cool. never thought that some people can get so fsat ahead. | 21:11 |
| colonelqubit | I don't usually use a screen reader, but I've been trying to understand the technology so I can help my friends. | 21:14 |
| DomasoFan | colonelqubit: so you are fully sighted? thats cool that you are helping. | 21:14 |
| colonelqubit | I can work in gedit and the terminal a little bit, but I get lost in firefox | 21:14 |
| DomasoFan | well its different cause orca does things different. it creates a virtual buffer where it stores the site. | 21:15 |
| DomasoFan | with the arrow keys you can go through the page and with tab you can jump to links formfields or other focusable elements. with h you can navigate to headings. with 1-6 you can go by the different heading levels. there are many more keys you can use | 21:16 |
| colonelqubit | domasofan: yes, I'm fully sighted (nearsighted, actually). Some of my friends are older, and are experiencing macular degeneration, or have lost their sight from diabetes. | 21:18 |
| colonelqubit | ah, cool. A virtual buffer makes sense. | 21:18 |
| colonelqubit | I wish that there were some kind of interactive tutorial for using Orca. Like "press Ctrl+h to enter the help learn mode"...and then a "good" confirmation when you've done that step. | 21:20 |
| DomasoFan | yeah. there is insert+h. then you can hit keys | 21:20 |
| DomasoFan | there is also orca help on http://live.gnome.org/Orca | 21:20 |
| colonelqubit | I know that a lot of modern videogames have interactive in-game tutorials for teaching people how to use the controls | 21:21 |
| colonelqubit | it seems like these are more intuitive methods for training, rather than just a manual or a set of key combinations. | 21:22 |
| DomasoFan | there are some orca videos on youtube and some podcasts. but the most things are in the manual. oh and there is a mailing list for orca and for the ubuntu accessibility in general | 21:23 |
| colonelqubit | domasofan: I know that one of my friends is really interested in getting online so that they can send email. What email client do you use? | 21:24 |
| DomasoFan | ok. let's help you here. how is the computer connected? | 21:25 |
| DomasoFan | or does the computer actually has a connection to the net. so can you open the browser and it shows a website? | 21:26 |
| colonelqubit | Domasofan: They're all set with a connection | 21:29 |
| colonelqubit | but I'm considering preconfiguring a machine and then shipping it to them (because they're so far away) | 21:29 |
| DomasoFan | ok. do you have skype or something? | 21:32 |
| colonelqubit | domasofan: I try to avoid skype, but I do use empathy for audio/video chat. | 21:39 |
| DomasoFan | hmm. wonder if i can do that wirh miranda. is empathy using jabber? | 21:39 |
| colonelqubit | domasofan: Do you hang out in #ubuntu-accessibility often? I might need to run off soon, but I'd really like to talk to you later | 21:40 |
| colonelqubit | domasofan: yes, by default empathy audio/video chat is running over jabber. | 21:40 |
| DomasoFan | sometimes i am here. via audio would be good cause then you can hear whats going on and i can hear whats going on at your side. | 21:41 |
| DomasoFan | my jabber address is domasofan@jabber.ccc.de | 21:41 |
| colonelqubit | cool. I'm qubit@jabber.org | 21:43 |
| colonelqubit | domasofan: i'll ping you to make sure I have the right address | 21:46 |
| DomasoFan | you are added. | 21:46 |
| * colonelqubit thinks "great minds think alike..." | 21:46 | |
| colonelqubit | domasofan: thanks for all of your advice and help. | 21:49 |
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