[00:26] <elky> bradm, things fell over therefore you could not possibly have?
[00:27] <elky> Surely infinate bandwidth magically fixes everything
[00:31] <bradm> elky: indeed
[00:31] <bradm> even with increased bandwidth, there was a lot of interest in this release
[00:42] <lifeless> bradm: perhaps because we don't talk in public about it ?
[00:42] <lifeless> bradm: not in any detail, so folk cannot grok whats up
[00:42] <bradm> lifeless: guess so
[00:43] <lifeless> (I'm not questioning whether we should or shouldn't, just saying that you are in a privileged position to know :))
[00:43] <lifeless> I doubt most of our *staff* know if we do/don't.
[00:45] <lifeless> bradm: ^
[00:46] <bradm> lifeless: yeah, I see all the servers melt :)
[01:06] <elky> There's also the matter of assuming in good faith.
[01:17] <lifeless> elky: that would be nice
[01:17] <lifeless> elky: buuuuut
[01:21] <elky> I know :P
[01:59] <Kalidarn> :( http://www.techdirt.com/articles/20120426/14505718671/insanity-cispa-just-got-way-worse-then-passed-rushed-vote.shtml
[04:11] <ikt> didn't even get close to a TB uploaded 
[04:11] <ikt> :(\
[04:11] <ikt> uploaded 126GB in total
[04:12] <ikt> but half of that was in the first 3 hours
[09:56] <sagaci> head_victim: pingety ping ping ping
[09:56] <md_5> rage!
[09:56] <sagaci> the power of the ping
[09:56] <md_5> my mouse back/forward keys work in firefox but not nautilus
[09:56] <md_5> what is this shit :(
[09:57] <head_victim> Hehe
[09:57]  * head_victim isn't here, please leave a message after the PING
[09:58] <benonsoftware> :D
[10:13] <sagaci> head_victim: how does one import ical exports but retain their local time
[10:13] <head_victim> Um?
[10:14] <head_victim> You have an ical you've taken from point A, you want to install in another program in point B that is in a different TZ to point A?
[10:15] <head_victim> Which program are you importing from/to? Can you just add a different TZ?
[10:15] <sagaci> google cal
[10:16] <head_victim> Create a new calendar in the account with a different time zone and copy?
[10:16] <head_victim> And just pick which one to show at any one time?
[10:16] <sagaci> yeah, seems to be the easiest way
[10:16] <head_victim> Hell, you could even just share the private link with yourself
[10:16] <sagaci> since it seems that you can't delete a week of events
[10:16] <head_victim> That way whatever you change in one is updated in the other.
[10:16] <head_victim> Complete mirror
[10:51] <sagaci> head_victim: so what kind of throughput do you get copying big files over your network
[10:51] <head_victim> Never really checked with decent hardware to be honest
[10:53] <head_victim> Hang on, I'll mount a windows share on the wife's PC and rsync to see
[10:53]  * benonsoftware nearly screwed his EC2 server updating to 12.04
[10:59] <head_victim> sagaci: forget that, apparently I need to log her out to set up file sharing. 
[11:00] <sagaci> ah ok, just wanted to see what kinda speeds i'm missing out on
[11:01] <head_victim> Probably not much
[11:01] <head_victim> I don't even know what I should be expecting
[11:02] <head_victim> Currently though I just realised everything is hanging off an old 8 port 10/100
[11:02] <head_victim> The 10/100/1000 is sitting down in the dining room
[11:03] <sagaci> going to play it safe and copy everything over to 2GB sticks
[11:03] <head_victim> Updating now?
[11:04] <sagaci> clean installing the netbook with lubuntu
[11:04] <sagaci> but it has around 10GB of data I want to keep and around 20GB data on the windows 7 partition that I'm about to wipe
[11:04] <head_victim> Ah I'm going to "clean" install on this machine but keep /home
[11:05] <head_victim> Assuming I can work out how to do that in the partitioning.
[11:05] <sagaci> it's not hard but I get annoyed with having to do it all right
[11:06] <sagaci> and I prefer a clean /home with default configs
[11:07] <head_victim> True, I could move /home to a spare drive and only suck back what I want
[11:07] <sagaci> choices, choices!
[11:09] <sagaci> a student is going to try out ubuntu tomorrow on his toshiba laptop
[11:11] <head_victim> rsync -av --progress /home /new/place ftw
[11:28] <sagaci> so theoretically I shouldn't have to reinstall this netbook until 2017
[11:29] <head_victim> I've been going LTS to LTS on my desktop. 
[11:29] <head_victim> Was more concerned with Unity but it's proven pretty good now so happy to make the change
[11:33] <sagaci> it's pretty McPolised
[11:33] <sagaci> just about to blow windows away
[11:44] <head_victim> So if I back up home and etc I should be pretty safe
[11:50] <sagaci> yup
[11:53] <jaddi27> sagaci, Updated to 12.04 now. Looking good so far
[11:54] <head_victim> kvm or virtualbox?
[11:55] <sagaci> I rarely use vms these days
[11:55] <sagaci> jaddi27: yep, just reinstalling lubuntu now
[11:55] <sagaci> on the netbook, might try kubuntu on the desktop for a while
[11:55] <jaddi27> head_victim, actual laptop, not a vm
[11:55] <head_victim> I do it for anything I don't want to put on my main machine. Either dev releases or projects
[11:56] <jaddi27> sagaci, reinstalling already? or updating to 12.04?
[11:56] <sagaci> clean installing to 12.04
[11:56] <sagaci> netbook was on 11.10 for the full cycle, which is pretty rare
[11:56] <jaddi27> yeah, i did a clean install also, but kept my /home partition
[11:56] <sagaci> usually I reinstall periodically but I didn't use the netbook much over my laptop
[11:57] <jaddi27> looks like a few of the people from last night are still here - it is the longest list of people i have seen on the channel for a long time
[12:00] <sagaci> looks like they removed those test packages, translations dropped back down to 3500
[12:00] <jaddi27> That is a better number
[12:01] <jaddi27> I have not had time to finish off the untranslated strings, but should get back to it soon
[12:01] <jaddi27> There were a lot of unnecessary packages based on the emails recently to the translators list
[12:04] <sagaci> quantal translations won't open for a couple of months so 3500 should be a knockover by then
[12:08] <jaddi27> yep, it should be fine to get done by then