[01:39] <jdmcancer> Hello. I see that today we have the newest version of Ubuntu available and I was just wondering does it make a difference if I upgrade from the  update manager or would it be better if I upgraded from a disc?
[01:43] <holstein> jdmcancer: personally, i do neither.. i get a disc, and i reinstall
[01:45] <jdmcancer> I'm new to LInux and when I first got it someone else installed it for me, so what is the difference?
[01:50] <sebsebseb> jdmcancer, re installs tend to be much cleaner than an upgrade for all Linux distro's
[01:51] <jdmcancer> Where can I get a disc?
[02:03] <sebsebseb> jdmcancer, for Linux distros you can download the ISO
[02:03] <sebsebseb> or possbily buy a disc
[02:04] <sebsebseb> download the ISO, burn contents to CD, boot computer up from it, good to try a few distros as well :)
[02:06] <jdmcancer> Cool
[02:06] <jdmcancer> Thanks
[02:07] <sebsebseb> jdmcancer, and it's good to check the ISo downloaded properly md5sum/sha1sum
[02:07] <jdmcancer> OK thanks
[02:07] <sebsebseb> in Windows that can be a bit confussing since got to use some program for it, in a Linux distro you do it  on the terminal
[02:07] <sebsebseb> anyway that checks that it downloaded properly if not you shoudn't burn it
[02:07] <sebsebseb> if it passes the code is correct, then it's fine
[02:08] <jdmcancer> Can I upgrade from the terminal?
[02:09] <sebsebseb> jdmcancer, yep
[02:09] <sebsebseb> jdmcancer, don't try and upgrade now
[02:09] <sebsebseb> since to many other people will be
[02:09] <sebsebseb> and things will be really slow probably
[02:11] <jdmcancer> Is it easy to do through the terminal? And how reliable since a lot of people seem to prefer a clean reinstall from a disc
[02:12] <JoseeAntonioR> It's pretty easy, just a command
[02:13] <jdmcancer> What commmand do I use?
[02:14] <E3D3> I was 'to brave' to upgrade to the Beta-version but couldn't work with it. So I waited for the RC. Will I have my good trustworthy Ubuntu back when I let Update-manager download another 700 MB ? Is that all I have to do ? 4.3-1ubuntu4 --> 4.3-1ubuntu5 ?
[02:15] <holstein> E3D3: ?
[02:16] <holstein> E3D3: im not following.. you have some testing verision of 12.04 installed?
[02:16] <holstein> you wont get "back" to anything going forward with updates
[02:17] <E3D3> holstein: Yes, 12.04 beta if I remember well.  I want back to trustworthy, not to the same version.
[02:17] <holstein> you want back?
[02:18] <holstein> you want back to trustworthy?
[02:18] <holstein> im not sure what you mean
[02:18] <holstein> 12.04 is "stable" now, though likely similar in "trustworthiness"
[02:23] <E3D3> The beta-version was an experiment, and failed, to buggy. So I didn't/couldn't use it. I know it was my own fault to try a beta version. Now I'm already started updating/downloading and will see if that helps, so nm. Sorry that I express myself so bad and thanks for your help.
[02:24] <holstein> E3D3: well, there are no beta or testing versions now.. so i say, update what you have if you are having problems, and you can troubleshoot from there
[02:27] <E3D3> Okay, I try that and will see. Thanks again and good bye.
[05:20] <jacky> Is there any way to upgrade over the command line to a new version?
[05:20] <philipballew_> jacky, yeah!
[05:20] <jacky> I couldn't do it thus forcing to wait until KDE told me to.
[05:20]  * philipballew_ finds link
[05:21]  * jacky hopes it's not a HTTPS link.
[05:21] <philipballew_> http://askubuntu.com/questions/83578/how-can-i-upgrade-to-11-10-from-the-command-line
[05:22] <philipballew_> jacky, just do what this says. though its 11.10, its the same iirc
[05:22] <jacky> \o/ thanks philipballew_; i'll try it.
[05:24]  * philipballew_ tackles jacky 
[05:24] <jacky> D:
[07:17] <jimmie> Is anyone else having an issue with their unity launcher never going away with 12.04
[07:21] <Fyodorovna> jimmie, you have compizconfig settings manager installed, there is a unity plugin and control in the first tab
[07:21] <jimmie> Im "sudo apt-get install compizconfig-settings-manager" -ing as we speak
[07:21] <jimmie> Cheers pal
[07:22] <Fyodorovna> cool
[07:28] <jimmie> Its configured to autohide on CCSM but its still there, taunting me.
[07:32] <jimmie> =(
[07:33] <jimmie> Is there any other way to change its behaviour other than CCSM
[07:35] <Fyodorovna> jimmie, are you in 2d?
[07:36] <Fyodorovna> can you change the size of the panel in that plugin?
[07:36] <jimmie> with ccsm?
[07:36] <Fyodorovna> the unity desktop has a 2d version as well
[07:37] <jimmie> im not lure anymore I did "unity --reset" about 2 mintues ago, ow anthing i open, opens behind every other window and cannot be retrieved
[07:37] <jimmie> *sure
[07:37] <Fyodorovna> jimmie, yeah in ccsm for the panel width resize
[07:38] <jimmie> Please excuse the horrid typing as well. Its changed my preferred keyboard from Dvorak to Qwerty. Which nade logging in a hoot.
[07:38] <jimmie> *made
[07:38] <Fyodorovna> jimmie, alt-f2 unity --replace will restrt compiz
[07:40] <jimmie> it is now completely teal.
[07:42] <jimmie> Tell a lie
[07:42] <jimmie> I now have 2 unity launchers
[07:42] <Fyodorovna> jimmie, should of been compiz --replace     the command you ran should not of hurt anhything
[07:42] <jimmie> One which stays and never leaves
[07:42] <jimmie> Another, teal coloured one, which comes when summoned
[07:43] <Fyodorovna> jimmie, you probably just need a reboot or a logout compiz is tempermental if you mess with it.
[07:43] <jimmie> For added annoyance, all the icons are vastly different sizes, so you open three things at once if you click it
[07:43] <jimmie> Yeah ill try that again. Cheers again.
[07:44] <jimmie> Stop saying again*
[07:50] <jimmie> Nope. Changing the CCSM unity panel settings merely creates a new launcher that does autohide
[09:42] <ray_> bioterror , I am running Ubuntu 12.04. It took me a while because I had to install a microwave first, then I couldn't get Ubuntu 12 installed from USB which I have done before with another version of Ubuntu, so I made a CD
[09:43] <ray_> When I was testing Ubuntu 12.04 from CD I couldn't connect to the internet, but after installing I was able to connect
[09:43] <ray_> Now to work appearance
[09:57] <sk1special> lots of traffic here...
[09:58] <r4y> No kidding.
[09:58] <r4y> I am wondering about Ubuntu 12.04 and using this command: sudo apt-get install gnome-shell
[09:59] <r4y> Can I still switch back to Unity?, vice versa when ever I want after using this command?
[09:59] <r4y> Will the apearances of both stay out each others way?, And so forth
[10:00] <Unit193> Should have the option in Lightdm.
[10:00] <Unit193> Both being gnome, I'd think overlap would happen though.
[10:00] <r4y> I like the options for appearance better with Gnome
[10:00] <r4y> Lightdm?
[10:01] <Unit193> Login manager.
[10:01] <sk1special> idk..gnome shell killed my desktop.. but thats because i was messing with the compiz  ccsm stuff that i have no idea how to do via online posts on how to install matrix 3d desktop cube :]
[10:02] <r4y> My brother was trying to get me into using compiz fusion but it was slowing things down so I ditched it.
[10:02] <r4y> However
[10:03] <r4y> I got TV-out working so that 2 individual windows were open, one on the monitor and the other on the tv
[10:04] <r4y> Which from what my uncle said I couldn't do with my graphics card
[10:04] <sk1special> wait tv out? you mean just dual monitor screen on a tv that has pc in right?
[10:05] <r4y> Normally tv out works as twin view by default for me
[10:05] <sk1special> ah and you made it extended?
[10:06] <sk1special> or landscape or xcinema view or whatever
[10:06] <r4y> Uh, I can't remember if it panned out. I remember it being difficult though
[10:07] <r4y> Right now tv out is there, but the screen is flipping on the tv over and over
[10:07] <r4y> I haven't tried the graphics card driver yet though
[10:08] <sk1special> lol. i have nvidia geforce something cheap. all kindve issues..its a compromise tho. depending on which effects i enable other things mess up or work better..
[10:09] <sk1special> like i have good working dual screen extended atm..one to a tv in.. but my menus look like win 98 and i cant drap and drop between workstations.
[10:09] <r4y> I know it wasn't stretched as far as normal looking goes, but I can't remember if was extended
[10:10] <r4y> I am happy with my graphics card for what I can afford. It's a NVIDIA 7100GS
[10:10] <r4y> It could be better, but I can play N64 games
[10:10] <sk1special> ahh.. i have a ..hmm. to google the command for displaying that info..
[10:11] <r4y> I don't understand?
[10:12] <sk1special> ah i just had to look up how to find out the graphics card via terminal.
[10:12] <sk1special> its lspci -nn | grep VGA
[10:13] <sk1special> and i have a GT218 GeForce 210
[10:13] <r4y> I haven't yet backed up my files, I made notes for that kind of info
[10:13] <r4y> I am new to Unity as you must know
[10:14] <r4y> I had a feeling I would be likely switch back to Gnome
[10:15] <r4y> I wonder how long, or if they are even going to keep gnome
[10:15] <sk1special> ah cha. im new to all linux so sall good. i feel like im cathing on pretty fast..3 days down and i have a 3d matrix video desktop and both monitors are at least on so im happy
[10:15] <sk1special> idk .. been on windows till now
[10:15] <r4y> Wow, cool
[10:16] <r4y> Is this the nick you are going to be using in the future?
[10:16] <r4y> your irc name = nick
[10:16] <sk1special> catching* and yeah im this cross platform
[10:17] <r4y> I will make note. I can share info with you sometime. I need to back up soon
[10:17] <sk1special> ah okay..thats whats up
[10:18] <r4y> OK, I made note of your nick. I hope you find something useful when I share sometime.
[10:19] <r4y> It would be better if I could share a folder
[10:19] <r4y> I've never used cloud before. Is it free?
[10:19] <r4y> I think so
[10:19] <sk1special> yeah thats why im just waiting in chat . learn what i can till i can fix my stuff. and from what ive seen no. theres a trial period i think of like a day where its free. but i believe they charge you for it beyond that
[10:20] <sk1special> okay juts checked. its free for one hour not one day
[10:20] <r4y> Does it require a credit card?
[10:20] <r4y> That's messed up, O well
[10:21] <sk1special> https://try.cloud.ubuntu.com/
[10:21] <sk1special> doesnt look like it
[10:21] <r4y> LOL, may some other way then
[10:21] <r4y> I'll be back
[10:22] <sk1special> mmk
[10:30] <r4y> I am wondering if anything that worked for me before will work on Ubuntu 12.04, I need to back up and I want to test
[10:31] <r4y> I meant everything
[10:31] <r4y> not anything
[10:31] <r4y> oops
[10:31] <r4y> Are you having trouble with anything?
[10:33] <sk1special> am i ?
[10:33] <r4y> ya, what's up?
[10:34] <sk1special> yeah. the window menus look like windows 98  ( ie grey blocky ) and i cant drag and drop windows between workstations and i get a RANDR missing error when i try to do somethings
[10:34] <r4y> Are you stuck in fail safe?
[10:35] <sk1special> no everything else is working normally. i know its a nvidia thing tho. because depending on how i change my monitor set up. ill have either one screen working perfectly. or one screen working perfectly and the other as just solid grey light and a x for a mouse cursor that doesnt do anything.. or how i have it now with the win 98 looking menus and no drag n drop
[10:35] <r4y> I wonder what's up with that
[10:36] <r4y> You might want to ask the people on the #ubuntu channel. There are more people there
[10:37] <r4y> It's packed though
[10:37] <r4y> or was
[10:37] <sk1special> yeah they just ignore me when i ask that question. which i assume means it either takes to long to explain or they dont know.
[10:37] <r4y> You are using 2 graphics card on one computer?
[10:38] <sk1special> no one graphics card. just dual monitors.. one via the dvi port one via the vga port
[10:38] <r4y> I've never done that
[10:39] <r4y> I use s-video which is not as good. In fact the tv is hard to read words off of from the computer
[10:39] <r4y> But games are decent
[10:40] <r4y> I wonder if there is a graphics card related channel?
[10:41] <r4y> I found #nvidia
[10:42] <r4y> Not that I know when people are there
[10:45] <sk1special> lol ill join it just i ncase. most things i can find online.. but not help with this. i had it fixed the other day ..but idk what i didi. i just kept reentering shit and one time it worked...then i did a fresh install of the new version because that video shit killed my desktop
[10:47] <r4y> Ya it's crazy sometimes. I've had many good times. Some hard times, but I knew it was worth the trying.
[10:48] <r4y> I need to reboot. I will be back
[10:48] <sk1special> eh. its frustrating because it leaves my system very unstable.. i dont feel comfortable actually saving anything important. but i have a laptop too so sall good to use this to learn new stuff. and mmk
[10:49] <r4y> You might want to get an external hard drive if you can afford it.
[10:51] <r4y> I'll be back
[10:52] <sk1special> yeah i have a spare..but its half the size of my main. next major purchase is  upgraded pc. n mmk
[10:56] <jimmie> Has anyone discovered a solution to the launcher never autohiding in 12.04 (even with adjustments to CCSM)
[10:57] <sk1special> is that supposed to be possible?
[10:59] <sk1special> http://www.webupd8.org/2012/04/things-to-tweak-after-installing-ubuntu.html
[11:00] <sk1special> just scroll down a lil ways and they tell you how to do it
[11:00] <bobweaver> hello there I am looking for the lead contact for this group who might that be ?
[11:00] <bobweaver> I am putting it in https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Learning#preview
[11:00] <bobweaver> by the section    Affiliates & Key People
[11:01] <bobweaver> Need to know who to tell people to contact.
[11:01] <jimmie> sklspecial: Yeah the unity sidebar always used to bugger off after a while
[11:01] <jimmie> Now it just sits there, mocking me.
[11:02] <sk1special> yeah. that site i posted shows you how to do it
[11:03] <jimmie> Onlyfor 3d apparently
[11:03] <jimmie> Hmm.
[11:03] <jimmie> Ill give it a go, cheers pal.
[11:06] <sk1special> yeah theyre  trying to disable  being able to do that as a normal thing i guess. goodluck
[11:06] <jimmie> Why. The thing is unsightly
[11:06] <jimmie> I dont see the advantage to not being able to hide it
[11:08] <sk1special> maybe with unity ( which i guess is a new environment for this ? ) it makes the desktop unstable for the launcher to be moved around. *shrug*
[11:08] <jimmie> Unsettings doesnt work for making it autohide, I have set ccsm and unsettings to autohide and it wont go away
[11:09] <jimmie> hmm
[11:10] <sk1special> unsettings?
[11:10] <sk1special> scroll down the page a lil to Get unity dodge windows autohide back
[11:10] <sk1special> theres one download for *how it used to work*
[11:10] <sk1special> and one for mazimized windows
[11:11] <sk1special> http://webupd8.googlecode.com/files/unity-dodge-windows_1.5_all.deb
[11:11] <sk1special> is the *how it used to work*
[11:11] <sk1special> http://webupd8.googlecode.com/files/unity-dodge-maximized-windows_1.5_all.deb
[11:11] <sk1special> is the maximized windows..
[11:11] <sk1special> and it says have to log out and back in after
[11:11] <jimmie> Thats confusing.
[11:12] <sk1special> http://www.webupd8.org/2012/04/real-window-dodge-unity-launcher.html additional info :]
[11:12] <sk1special> lol. alot of this stuff is confusing..especially with me coming off of windows. but apparently its a big improvement from older versions..and its confusing so it can be truly customizable/open
[11:13] <jimmie> Ugh
[11:14] <jimmie> Before when you maximised a window, unity was just goneand you were left with your huge window.
[11:14] <jimmie> Now the launcherhangs around for a wee while
[11:14] <jimmie> then goes
[11:14] <jimmie> So much for the relentless march of progress
[11:15] <sk1special> hmm. that would be nice.. but i bet with my screensaver background running it would crash me too. so *shrug*
[11:16] <sk1special> i was just reading the head guys blogs..and he was talking about while theyre always striving to move forward..theyre also attempting to bridge the gap between super tech user ..and your avg person
[11:16] <jimmie> Yu cant please everyone, so why try?
[11:17] <jimmie> Also 12.04 has disregarded me setting my keyboard todvorak ages ago
[11:17] <jimmie> and is now forcing me to use qwerty, and its entirely unchangable
[11:22] <sk1special> ? should have had all those options during the install i did. gave me like a million different layouts
[11:23] <jimmie> yeah.
[11:23] <pip__> I notice the new (12.04) images are over 700Mb - DVDs from here on in then?
[11:23] <jimmie> I set ti like that last time I did a fresh install
[11:24] <jimmie> I just upgraded to 12.04 and it thinks dvorak doesnt exist
[11:24] <sk1special> go to system settings . keyboard . layout settings
[11:24] <sk1special> they have a few options there
[11:25] <sk1special> andd.. dvds / cds? usb drives with swapable sd card clor. 4 dollars with shipping on amazing for the usb drive. another 5 bucks for a 16gb microsd card :]
[11:25] <sk1special> and i typed that all fucked up but you know what i mean
[12:05] <jimmie> sklspecial: I can change thise all I want, wont leave qwerty
[12:05] <jimmie> Think im going to use my 11.10 live usb
[16:25] <spornitz> Hi - trying to override the default "alt-click" behaviour in 11.10 - I need alt-click to do something very specific in eclipse and the "move" action is associated by default
[16:26] <spornitz> any tips? thanks
[16:47] <geirha> spornitz: There used to be an option in the mouse or window preferences; to choose between Alt and Super for that, but it seems it's removed in 11.10
[16:47] <geirha> spornitz: You can remap it with ccsm (CompizConfig Settings Manager) though
[16:48] <spornitz> geirha: where in the ccsm? thanks
[16:48] <geirha> Browse down to the "Move Window" plugin and map it from <Alt>Button1 to e.g. <Super>Button1
[16:48] <spornitz> great thanks very much
[17:55] <Toxin> Ok
[17:55] <Toxin> What now
[17:55] <bobweaver> Hey yo
[17:55] <bobweaver> dpkg-query -l | grep ndis*
[17:56] <bobweaver> -l is a l like in llama
[17:56] <Toxin> A List is there
[17:56] <bobweaver> |do you see ndiswrapper ?
[17:57] <Toxin> Yes
[17:57] <bobweaver> good
[17:57] <bobweaver> sudo modprobe ndiswrapper
[17:57] <bobweaver> then
[17:57] <bobweaver> lsmod | grep ndiswrapper
[17:58] <Toxin> Fatal: Module ndiswrapper Not found
[17:58] <bobweaver> ok
[17:58] <bobweaver> did I spell it right ?
[17:58] <Toxin> Yes
[17:58] <bobweaver> ndiswrapper -l
[17:59] <bobweaver> long list ?
[17:59] <Toxin> Driver installed blublub
[17:59] <bobweaver> gezz why is the mod not loading
[17:59] <Toxin> wg311v3 : driver installed device (11AB:1FAA) Presseamt
[18:00] <Toxin> Not more
[18:00] <Toxin> *present
[18:00] <bobweaver> sudo iwlist scan
[18:00] <bobweaver> can you see networks ?>
[18:00] <Toxin> Nö
[18:00] <Toxin> Lo Interface doesnt Support Scanning. Eth0 Same
[18:01] <bobweaver> but no wla0 ?
[18:01] <Toxin> Nö
[18:01] <bobweaver> sudo -i
[18:02] <Toxin> Wait
[18:02] <jimmie> Im trying to make an 11.10 live usb. Should the usb stick be in FAT32 or?
[18:02] <bobweaver> wait on what ?
[18:02] <bobweaver> jimmie,  you should think about ext
[18:02] <bobweaver> ext3 or 4
[18:03] <Toxin> Just New batteries in mice
[18:03] <Toxin> Ok i hav done Sudo -i
[18:03] <bobweaver> good
[18:03] <bobweaver> echo ndiswrapper >> /etc/modules
[18:03] <bobweaver> make sure you tyoe that right
[18:04] <bobweaver> type *
[18:04] <Toxin> Done
[18:04] <bobweaver> lol
[18:04] <bobweaver> modprobe ndiswrapper
[18:04] <jimmie> Does it make any difference, ext3 or 4?
[18:04] <Toxin> Fatal...
[18:04] <bobweaver> exit
[18:04] <Toxin> ._.
[18:04] <bobweaver> jimmie,  not sure I use ext3
[18:05] <bobweaver> Toxin,  did you do a exit
[18:05] <bobweaver> Toxin,  do you have internet connection to that computer
[18:05] <jimmie> Does it have any advantages over fat32 or nfst (or whatever the scronym is)
[18:05] <jimmie> *acronym
[18:05] <bobweaver> that is for windows jimmie  not linux
[18:05] <Toxin> Yes ans nö
[18:05] <bobweaver> fat32 and ntfs
[18:06] <bobweaver> ok
[18:06] <Toxin> Exit yes, Internet no
[18:06] <bobweaver> Toxin,  iwconfig
[18:06] <bobweaver> wlan0 ?
[18:06] <bobweaver> or whatever wifi is
[18:06] <Toxin> No
[18:07] <bobweaver> arghh
[18:08] <bobweaver> sudo apt-get --purge remove ndiswapper && sudo apt-get --yes install ndiswrapper
[18:08] <bobweaver> check spelling ^^
[18:08] <Toxin> No Internet?
[18:08] <bobweaver> looks good to me
[18:08] <bobweaver> foh shit
[18:08] <bobweaver> how did you get it there in the 1st place ?
[18:09] <Toxin> USB
[18:09] <bobweaver> ok
[18:09] <bobweaver> apt-cache policy ndiswapper
[18:10] <Toxin> Packet ndiswrapper cannot be found
[18:10] <jimmie> Startup disk creator says no to using my newly formatted usb stick to put 11.10
[18:11] <bobweaver> Toxin,  sorry
[18:11] <bobweaver> apt-cache policy dump ndiswrapper
[18:11] <jimmie> It has been used before as a liveusb for 11.10, before my idiotic switch to 12.04
[18:11] <bobweaver> jimmie,  fire up gparted and format that sucker
[18:12] <bobweaver> do you know how to do that ? jimmie
[18:13] <holstein> jimmie: this has nothing to do with 12.04
[18:14] <holstein> try unetbootin.. try DD'ing the iso... try formatting the USB stick as bobweaver suggests before using the startup disk creator
[18:14] <bobweaver>  o/ holstein
[18:14] <holstein> if you are using ubuntu 11.10, you want ubuntu 12.04... maybe on one of the derivitives, you could argue that its not that important
[18:15] <holstein> the improvements to unity are well worth any hassle you come across
[18:15] <bobweaver> +1
[18:15] <bobweaver> and filing bugs
[18:15] <bobweaver> lightdm ect
[18:16] <bobweaver> how to file bug in 12.04 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=495V7FokwBU&webm=1   can not belive how easy it is
[18:16] <bobweaver> just had to make a video about it
[18:16] <bobweaver> Toxin,  ?? take picture if you need too :>)
[18:17] <bobweaver> !screenshot | Toxin
[18:17] <ubot2> Toxin: Screenshots can be made with the [PrtScr] button. Want to show us a screenshot of your problem? Upload an image to http://imagebin.org/?page=add and post a link to it.
[20:17] <Guest44335> Hello, everyone!
[20:22] <haqking> hello Guest44335 so what is your USB question
[20:24] <Guest44335> I'm attempting to locate my USB drive via Terminal. I cannot identify the proper method in order to locate this. What is the correct method to proceed?
[20:25] <haqking> in terminal type cd /media
[20:25] <haqking> do ls and it should show your drive if its been detected
[20:26] <Guest44335> DId you research this while we were communicating prior? Ha ha ha.
[20:26] <haqking> Guest44335, no im a Linux user hence why im on here ;)
[20:26] <haqking> i also said the same thing in other channel
[20:26] <haqking> has it worked for you ?
[20:27] <Guest44335> I did not recognize this in the prior communication channel. I attempted to type letters and was not successful.
[20:27] <Unit193> Locate, being..? You can type  `mount` or `lsusb`
[20:27] <Guest44335> I typed sudo dmesg.
[20:28] <Guest44335> Now, my typing is limited to utilizing numbers.
[20:28] <haqking> Guest44335, type cd /media
[20:28] <haqking> from terminal prompt
[20:28] <Guest44335> I attempted to. I cannot type more than numbers.
[20:29] <haqking> are you in a linux terminal and at your usual terinal prompt ?
[20:29] <Guest44335> Isn't Linux a different OS than a Mac?
[20:30] <Guest44335> If so, I am utilizing a Mac.
[20:30] <haqking> mac is hardware that runs OSX
[20:30] <haqking> so your not in Linux then
[20:30] <Guest44335> No, no I am not.
[20:30] <haqking> if your question is Mac related then i suggest going to a mac support channel ;)
[20:31] <haqking> Ubuntu is Linux and nothing to do with Mac or OSX
[21:30] <aRn0> Hi all. I got 2 gigs of RAM. What is the exact swap size I need to enter when partitioning: 2000 MB or 2048 MB? Does it matter?
[21:32] <nlsthzn> I doubt it matters but I always go for 2048...
[21:32] <nlsthzn> Just feels right :)
[21:34] <aRn0> Alright, me too. Does anybody know for sure if it makes a difference or not?