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| _k | ubuntu 12.04 crashes my laptop with 2 monitors :/ | 05:28 |
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| ds500ss | found some irritating bug in rubygems, here's the report https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/rubygems/+bug/989454 | 07:56 |
| ubot2 | Launchpad bug 989454 in rubygems "rubygems lacks a bin directory on default install" [Undecided,New] | 07:56 |
| ds500ss | can someone check this out? | 07:59 |
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| lilleman | Is there something I can do to make someone interested in fixing this issue: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/unity/+bug/881628 | 14:31 |
| ubot2 | Launchpad bug 881628 in unity "Bad performance after a few minutes" [Undecided,New] | 14:31 |
| lilleman | Can I supply more information somehow? | 14:31 |
| RobinJ1995 | I reported a bug on Launchpad, how can I help get it fixed quicker? This is really starting to piss me off... | 15:06 |
| Daekdroom | RobinJ1995, bug #? | 15:06 |
| RobinJ1995 | On another note, how the * did you manage to make the so-called "stable" release buggier than beta 2Nµ | 15:08 |
| RobinJ1995 | ? | 15:08 |
| FlimFlamMan | upgrade to 12.04 on my System76 Darter Ultra results in no wifi and no touchpad... any suggestions for fixing either? | 15:08 |
| RobinJ1995 | ^ | 15:08 |
| RobinJ1995 | Daekdroom, https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/pulseaudio/+bug/984991 | 15:09 |
| ubot2 | Launchpad bug 984991 in pulseaudio "[Latitude D620, SigmaTel STAC9200, Speaker, Internal] Sound disappears" [Undecided,New] | 15:09 |
| RobinJ1995 | .... the cameleon buttons on the unity launcher are borked as well.... | 15:11 |
| RobinJ1995 | and they work again, lol | 15:12 |
| RobinJ1995 | seems to be related to my wallpaper :/ | 15:13 |
| Daekdroom | What is wrong with the buttons? | 15:13 |
| RobinJ1995 | if i choose a certain wallpaper the dash button becomes orange and all the rest becomes a dark brown | 15:13 |
| lilleman | I have the same question on how I can speed up work on a bug: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/unity/+bug/881628 | 15:14 |
| ubot2 | Launchpad bug 881628 in unity "Bad performance after a few minutes" [Undecided,New] | 15:14 |
| Daekdroom | RobinJ1995, The rest of the launcher or the rest of the icons? | 15:14 |
| RobinJ1995 | both | 15:14 |
| RobinJ1995 | the chameleonic icons that is | 15:14 |
| RobinJ1995 | but i've been messing around with unity's dconf so that could be it :p | 15:15 |
| RobinJ1995 | the sound issue is more important | 15:15 |
| Daekdroom | Every chamaleonic icon (and Dash) should look the same color, but the background is darker. | 15:15 |
| RobinJ1995 | might also just be my screen settings, by the way. http://www.imgdumper.nl/uploads5/4f9ab84e317ef/4f9ab84e12420-Screenshot_from_2012-04-27_17%3A15%3A44.png | 15:16 |
| RobinJ1995 | oh wait... probably because i turned the light of inactive icons off. that may be why the dash button is brighter | 15:17 |
| RobinJ1995 | Daekdroom, just checked, that's indeed the cause. but back to the sound issue (there are also huge performance issues it seems ....) | 15:18 |
| RobinJ1995 | what a suprise... performance issue is mount.ntfs, so not a real surprise | 15:19 |
| RobinJ1995 | but what about the sound issue? | 15:20 |
| Daekdroom | It looks to me that there's enough information in the bug report | 15:20 |
| Daekdroom | Hm.. | 15:20 |
| Daekdroom | Although it doesn't make it clear whether it's an alsa or a pulseaudio issue. | 15:21 |
| RobinJ1995 | i don't know. i just guessed it was pulseaudio | 15:21 |
| RobinJ1995 | didn't really think of it | 15:21 |
| RobinJ1995 | if i see one more of those "Ubuntu has experienced an internal error" boxes, I'm going mad.... :@ | 15:23 |
| RobinJ1995 | so far i'm incredibly disappointed :/ | 15:24 |
| ogra_ | RobinJ1995, thats why upgrades only get enabled for the .1 release usually ;) | 15:24 |
| RobinJ1995 | ogra_, didn't update | 15:24 |
| RobinJ1995 | *upgrade | 15:24 |
| RobinJ1995 | this is a fresh installation | 15:24 |
| ogra_ | but you also didnt wait for the .1 iso :) | 15:24 |
| RobinJ1995 | no, i didn't | 15:24 |
| ogra_ | so help finding and fixing the bugs before .1 | 15:25 |
| ogra_ | but note that all devs are pretty exhausted after working 20h days for two weeks to make the release happen | 15:25 |
| RobinJ1995 | or just try to bring it to the dev's minds to NOT RELEASE BUGGY STUFF WITH A "STABLE" LABEL | 15:25 |
| RobinJ1995 | it was the same with mint 12 | 15:25 |
| ogra_ | the .1 is the stable laebl | 15:26 |
| RobinJ1995 | they just call every release stable | 15:26 |
| ogra_ | and i wont start about mint or their disabled security | 15:26 |
| RobinJ1995 | the beta's are usually more stable somehow xd | 15:26 |
| RobinJ1995 | well, gotta go | 15:26 |
| RobinJ1995 | brb | 15:26 |
| ogra_ | in any case, file bugs and be patient, someone will get to your bug eventually | 15:27 |
| normatif | I'm doing do-release-upgrade from 12.04 from 11.10, and I get several warnings/errors. Is there a place interested in observing such info? this chan? | 15:43 |
| normatif | *from 11.10 to 12.04 | 15:43 |
| EvilResistance | which warnings/errors? and tbh, I've gotten errors during every in-place upgrade i've ever done :P | 15:43 |
| normatif | E: Error: BrokenCount > 0run-parts: /etc/update-motd.d/90-updates-available exited with return code 255 | 15:44 |
| normatif | dpkg: warning: unable to delete old directory '/etc/etc/bash_completion.d': Directory not empty | 15:44 |
| normatif | dpkg: warning: unable to delete old directory '/etc/etc': Directory not empty | 15:44 |
| normatif | rmdir: failed to remove `/var/lib/libreoffice/basis3.4': Directory not empty | 15:58 |
| normatif | dpkg: warning: unable to delete old directory '/usr/share/doc/uno-libs3/demo': Directory not empty | 15:59 |
| normatif | E: namespace:121: cannot remove /usr/lib/python2.6/dist-packages/lazr/__init__.py | 16:03 |
| RobinJ1995 | ogra_, hopefully before i decide to throw ubuntu out | 16:04 |
| RobinJ1995 | btw, can i change the priority myself, or not? | 16:04 |
| RobinJ1995 | derp | 16:04 |
| ogra_ | you need to be member of the bugsquad i think | 16:04 |
| RobinJ1995 | so delete it manually? | 16:04 |
| RobinJ1995 | ok, i'm not :p | 16:04 |
| ogra_ | well, as i said above, for the last two weeks everyone worked like 20h days for 7 days/week | 16:04 |
| ogra_ | so all devs are currently rather in recovery mode, thats what i mean with "be patient" | 16:05 |
| RobinJ1995 | if you can't get things stable in time, then why not postpone release? it will spare people a lot of freustration | 16:05 |
| ogra_ | next week it should be better again | 16:05 |
| ogra_ | RobinJ1995, well, you are free to wait for 12.04.1 | 16:06 |
| RobinJ1995 | no i'm not, it's already on here | 16:06 |
| RobinJ1995 | just don't release beta software under a stable label | 16:06 |
| ogra_ | 12.04 isnt supposed to be bugfree | 16:06 |
| ogra_ | it is stable in the sense that it doesnt change beyond getting bugfixes | 16:07 |
| RobinJ1995 | bugfree? i'd like to see that. i'd already be happy with "just working" | 16:07 |
| RobinJ1995 | it seems things have only been getting worse since beta 2 | 16:07 |
| ogra_ | 12.04.1 will be stable enough that it will be the release for enterprise users ... which is the reason why the update-manager will only offer that to LTS users | 16:08 |
| RobinJ1995 | can anyone help me try and find a temporary solution, then? | 16:08 |
| ogra_ | while things might have gone worse for you they only have gotten better for me since beta | 16:08 |
| ogra_ | there are millions of ubuntu users out there which likely have the same experience as me | 16:09 |
| ogra_ | and theer are surely also users out there which have the same experience as you | 16:09 |
| RobinJ1995 | whatever, can you try and help me find a temporary solution? if this isn't fixed in a few days my mother'll probably just switch back to windows (and to be honest, who can blame her?) | 16:09 |
| ogra_ | ugh, you installed 12.04 for your mom ? | 16:09 |
| RobinJ1995 | yeah | 16:09 |
| ogra_ | you seriously should have waited for .1 | 16:10 |
| ogra_ | (i certainly do before upgrading my moms computer) | 16:10 |
| ogra_ | anyway, you had issues with sound ? | 16:10 |
| RobinJ1995 | how should i know? if it's only beta quality than why not put a huge banner on the site "DO NOT INSTALL THIS, IT'S BETA QUALITY SOFTWARE" | 16:10 |
| RobinJ1995 | yeah | 16:11 |
| RobinJ1995 | i played around with the volume control a bit, and then the sound disappeared | 16:11 |
| ogra_ | so go to #ubuntu-kernel and see if diwic is still around, he is a sound expert and can probably help | 16:11 |
| ogra_ | (though he is european and might want to finish the day soon) | 16:12 |
| RobinJ1995 | i'm european as well | 16:12 |
| RobinJ1995 | * [diwic] barjavel.freenode.net :Paris, FR << i thinjk that should be the same timezone as i'm in | 16:12 |
| RobinJ1995 | oh wait that's the location of the server, isn't it? >.< | 16:13 |
| ogra_ | yes | 16:13 |
| RobinJ1995 | meh, i'll see | 16:13 |
| RobinJ1995 | doesn't seem to respond anyway :( | 16:13 |
| ogra_ | well, we all had long two weeks with last minute fixes and image tests | 16:14 |
| RobinJ1995 | don't kill me if i'm getting the wrong impression, but it seems this whole community-based development process is just a mess most of the times :/ | 16:15 |
| ogra_ | if your sound worked in the beginning, there is always the option to reinstall and not fiddle with the volume controls indeed :) | 16:15 |
| RobinJ1995 | reinstall? i've installed it 3 hours ago >.< | 16:15 |
| ogra_ | thats why i said that ... you wont have much personal data on it yet | 16:16 |
| RobinJ1995 | yeah i have | 16:16 |
| RobinJ1995 | well nothing that's not backupped | 16:16 |
| RobinJ1995 | ok now i'm going crazy | 16:16 |
| ogra_ | before your mom has to live without sound that might be the quicker option than having to wait til monday when devs show up again | 16:16 |
| RobinJ1995 | Sorry, Ubuntu 12.04 has experienced an internal error | 16:17 |
| RobinJ1995 | wtf | 16:17 |
| RobinJ1995 | "send report" -> apport crashes | 16:17 |
| RobinJ1995 | very nice... | 16:17 |
| RobinJ1995 | kinda defeats the use of crash management | 16:18 |
| RobinJ1995 | :p | 16:18 |
| roadmr | haha | 16:19 |
| RobinJ1995 | oh well, let's try to reproduce it on my laptop again (shouldn't be hard) | 16:20 |
| * ogra_ vanishes into the well deserved weekend ... | 16:21 | |
| ogra_ | RobinJ1995, good luck | 16:21 |
| RobinJ1995 | :p | 16:21 |
| * RobinJ1995 has an idea | 16:22 | |
| normatif | whoa... inplace upgrade horribly failed | 16:54 |
| normatif | I'm typing from windows now | 16:54 |
| normatif | at some point the window manager died, then upgrade stuck at flash-plugin installer | 16:55 |
| FlimFlamMan | any recommendations for figuring out why my laptop touchpad does not work since 12.04 upgrade? | 16:56 |
| RobinJ1995 | FlimFlamMan, known problem since 11.10. install all updates and reboot twice. usually solves it | 16:58 |
| normatif | flash plugin can never download because at that point network connection was gone too (along with WM), so I switched to console, it said System Restart Required, I restarted, logged in | 16:59 |
| normatif | apt-get update did not work (Still no network), apt-get upgrade told me to run dpkg --reconfigure a | 17:00 |
| normatif | so I did it, WM died again, lots of errors/warnings, I restarted after reconfigure finished, and... no grub menu, nothing, just blinking cursor | 17:01 |
| normatif | see you after the point release, bye | 17:03 |
| ahayzen | Hi is this the correct place to talk about bugs in Ubuntu? | 17:22 |
| hggdh | ahayzen: yes, if you have doubts on how to triage one | 17:35 |
| hggdh | or general questions about bugs in Ubuntu | 17:35 |
| ahayzen | well I have found a bug... and found tht it is already reported (bug 979266) so I have confirmed it... but I feel that it is a very important bug and therefore needs attention. | 17:36 |
| ubot2 | Launchpad bug 979266 in gobject-introspection "Can't import GConf from gi.repository Ubuntu 12.04 64-bit" [Undecided,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/979266 | 17:36 |
| ahayzen | hggdh: Basically when using Python you can't access GConf it just thinks its not there | 17:37 |
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| jtaylor | hm I can't reproduce it | 17:38 |
| ahayzen | jtaylor: Are you on 64 bit? | 17:39 |
| jtaylor | ahayzen: yes | 17:39 |
| ahayzen | is there any code I can run to find the issue? | 17:39 |
| jtaylor | ahayzen: does ldd -r /usr/lib/python2.7/dist-packages/gtk-2.0/gconf.so 2>&1 | grep -v Py | 17:39 |
| jtaylor | show any undefined references? | 17:40 |
| ahayzen | http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/950347/ | 17:40 |
| jtaylor | ahayzen: please do this: python -v -c "import gconf" | pastebinit | 17:41 |
| ahayzen | jtaylor: import gconf works correctly | 17:42 |
| jtaylor | oh what does not then? | 17:42 |
| ahayzen | its from gi.repository import GConf that doesn't | 17:42 |
| hggdh | ahayzen: isn't it 'gconf', lower case? | 17:43 |
| ahayzen | hggdh: on 11.10 GConf was used when using the new GI packages eg Gtk3 | 17:44 |
| hggdh | ah | 17:44 |
| * hggdh is not an expert on GTK, any version | 17:44 | |
| ahayzen | otherwise you get some gobject error.... http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/950357/ | 17:44 |
| ahayzen | they conflict or something | 17:45 |
| jtaylor | that affected update-manager once | 17:45 |
| jtaylor | it was fixed by using gsettings ... | 17:45 |
| jtaylor | is this really valid in gtk3? | 17:46 |
| hggdh | I cannot even test, the archive is sorta slow... | 17:46 |
| ahayzen | jtaylor: is what valid? | 17:46 |
| jtaylor | from gi.repository import GConf | 17:46 |
| ahayzen | it was in 11.10 | 17:46 |
| jtaylor | see https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/update-manager/1:0.152.3 | 17:47 |
| ahayzen | so how would i, as a developer, use gsettings? | 17:48 |
| jtaylor | let me try in 32 bit | 17:48 |
| jtaylor | which packages are needed for that? | 17:48 |
| ahayzen | for GConf.... supposedly.... gnome-python https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/precise/+source/gnome-python | 17:49 |
| ahayzen | which includes 'python-gconf: Python bindings for the GConf configuration database system' | 17:49 |
| ahayzen | maybe we are supposed to be using GSettings now then? | 17:51 |
| ahayzen | from gi.repository import Gio | 17:52 |
| ahayzen | then Gio.Settings but it is odd that GConf was included in 11.10 and now it has gone =-O | 17:52 |
| jtaylor | doesn't work in 32 bit for me either | 17:54 |
| ahayzen | there are some Gnome articles suggesting migration ... http://live.gnome.org/GnomeGoals/GSettingsMigration | 17:55 |
| ahayzen | so maybe GConf has been removed in GNOME 3.2 (is that wht we are on now) | 17:55 |
| ahayzen | jtaylor: ok so if that is true was should i do with the bug report? | 17:57 |
| jtaylor | wait for a reply by someone who knows this gnome crap | 17:58 |
| ahayzen | ok :) | 17:59 |
| ahayzen | jtaylor: Thank you very much for your help ... i think i've have a look into the gsettings thing and wait for a reply as u stated for the bug report | 18:00 |
| ahayzen | *i'll have a look | 18:01 |
| mfisch | anyone seen any issues popping up about DNS resolution being flaky? | 19:26 |
| mfisch | in 12.04 | 19:26 |
| alo21 | hi all | 19:31 |
| alo21 | I have to report a bug about cooling system | 19:31 |
| alo21 | could someone tell me what package manage it? | 19:32 |
| FernandoMiguel | why is +1 in invite only!? | 20:31 |
| dlentz | FernandoMiguel, Ubuntu 12.04 was just officially release, so there is no #ubuntu+1 release right now.. | 20:32 |
| Nafallo | just? | 20:32 |
| FernandoMiguel | dlentz: yes there is :) 12.10 ... I'm using it already | 20:32 |
| FernandoMiguel | a bunch of us were yesterday | 20:32 |
| FernandoMiguel | Description:Ubuntu quantal (development branch) | 20:32 |
| dlentz | it actually has its own repos with stuff in them right now? | 20:33 |
| FernandoMiguel | yes | 20:33 |
| FernandoMiguel | it has them for over 24h now | 20:33 |
| Nafallo | dlentz: it's just a copy of release-1 initially. | 20:35 |
| arand | FernandoMiguel: They often keep the channel as forwarding to #ubuntu for a while before the +1 cycle really get's started, and that leads to the invite-only thing if you are already in #ubuntu. | 20:36 |
| FernandoMiguel | arand: I know | 20:36 |
| FernandoMiguel | I expected it | 20:36 |
| FernandoMiguel | byt 12.10 repos were already open yesterday | 20:39 |
| _k | ubuntu 12.04 wont recognize my second monitor (it refers to it as a laptop) so i cant extend the displays, is this fixable? | 20:40 |
| roadmr | _k: so the displays tool shows two screens, or just one? | 20:42 |
| _k | it shows 2 screens | 20:42 |
| _k | both labeled laptop | 20:42 |
| _k | i have an ati radeon hd 3670. everything worked for me in 11.10. this is a fresh install | 20:44 |
| _k | actually sorry, now it only shows one, not detecting the other | 20:46 |
| _k | (it showed 2 'laptop' displays when i unchecked 'mirror') | 20:47 |
| roadmr | _k: m, do you have the proprietary drivers installed? | 20:48 |
| _k | no | 20:49 |
| _k | last time i did that with 12.04 it would crash, so i think i may try installing he fglrx drivers from the previous version | 20:49 |
| _k | (12.03 versus 12.04) | 20:50 |
| roadmr | _k hmm.. | 20:50 |
| roadmr | _k for the record I have no idea what the problem may be :/ sorry heh | 20:50 |
| _k | ok. i do think it's driver related and i have an open bug. just figured id ask here before risking another complete system reinstall | 20:50 |
| _k | thanks tho | 20:50 |
| _k | seems like i lot of monitor issues so far though with 12.04.... worst case i go back to 11.10 | 20:51 |
| NurseDad | not sure I do this here but I was just sent here from the main channel. I was wanting to request that BZFlag be updated to the newsest version | 23:05 |
| micahg | Bug #555388 | 23:07 |
| ubot2 | Launchpad bug 555388 in bzflag "Update Package: BZFlag" [Undecided,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/555388 | 23:07 |
| arand | NurseDad: At this stage it's probably something that would have to go in through backports.. | 23:14 |
| arand | NurseDad: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuBackports has more info regarding that. | 23:15 |
| arand | (I'm assuming you are referring to Precise here...) | 23:15 |
| NurseDad | arand yes | 23:21 |
| NurseDad | I found a ppa with the latest | 23:21 |
| NurseDad | can I post the link here for you to look at? | 23:21 |
| arand | NurseDad: I'm not the person to speak to, I'm just trying to point you in the right direction ;) | 23:24 |
| micahg | NurseDad: once quantal has been updated, you can use the requestbackport script in ubuntu-dev-tools to request a backport to precise | 23:26 |
| NurseDad | ok thank you | 23:29 |
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