| chrisccoulson | well, so much for giving up alcohol! | 01:54 |
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| desrt | chrisccoulson?? | 02:20 |
| === jalcine is now known as jacky | ||
| pitti | Good morning | 04:18 |
| === jacky is now known as JackyAlcine | ||
| === JackyAlcine is now known as Jacky | ||
| === Jacky is now known as jacky | ||
| === bkerensa is now known as Tester | ||
| === Tester is now known as TesterBlah123 | ||
| === TesterBlah123 is now known as bkerensa | ||
| didrocks | good morning | 05:21 |
| * didrocks now releases unity and unity 2D 5.12 in -proposed | 05:40 | |
| * micahg hopes didrocks means into -proposed | 05:42 | |
| didrocks | micahg: yeah, into ;) | 05:44 |
| micahg | :) | 05:44 |
| didrocks | well, I need to do the upstream tarballs first | 05:45 |
| pitti | hey didrocks | 05:49 |
| pitti | hey micahg | 05:49 |
| pitti | so, what do we break first? | 05:49 |
| didrocks | pitti: I can already push compiz if you want :p | 05:50 |
| didrocks | pitti: we already went to a round of breakage/fix with the pre-release unity, hoping it was the only one :) | 05:50 |
| * pitti pats didrocks on the back | 05:51 | |
| pitti | off for a bit for breakfast and such | 05:51 |
| pitti | just wanted to finish that blog post | 05:51 |
| micahg | hi pitti | 05:52 |
| didrocks | pitti: ok, what breaks first is my daily kernel panic in fact | 05:53 |
| pitti | time for oven? | 05:53 |
| didrocks | pitti: ah no, it's a real bug I guess ;) | 05:54 |
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| === RAOF_ is now known as RAOF | ||
| Sweetshark | Moin! | 07:51 |
| Sweetshark | pitti, seb128: Any chance for one of you to look at 3.5.2-2ubuntu3? | 07:52 |
| Sweetshark | (today) | 07:52 |
| pitti | hey Sweetshark | 07:54 |
| pitti | oh, sure | 07:54 |
| didrocks | pitti: oh, you were so right when talking about oven time for the laptop | 07:54 |
| didrocks | … graphical card just screwed again right now | 07:55 |
| pitti | *sigh* | 07:55 |
| didrocks | and I have all my release stuff on that computer :/ | 07:55 |
| RAOF | Time for another round of laptop-baking? | 07:56 |
| ogra_ | didrocks, time to move to lubuntu :) | 07:57 |
| didrocks | well, time first to try to get my release preparation on my netbook :/ | 07:58 |
| didrocks | but with all the screen screwed, even in console mode | 07:58 |
| didrocks | not easy | 07:58 |
| ogra_ | ssh from another machine ? | 07:58 |
| seb128 | hey didrocks pitti | 07:59 |
| didrocks | ogra_: for that, I need to connect it to the network :p | 07:59 |
| didrocks | salut seb128 | 07:59 |
| pitti | bonjour seb128, how are you? | 07:59 |
| seb128 | pitti, I'm good thanks, how are you? | 07:59 |
| pitti | didrocks: time for a new laptop perhaps? | 07:59 |
| pitti | seb128: feeling precise! | 07:59 |
| seb128 | ;-) | 07:59 |
| ogra_ | not feeling quantal yet ? | 07:59 |
| didrocks | pitti: well, refresh is in less than 6 month, will be a shame to buy 2 in short time :) | 07:59 |
| pitti | ogra_: maybe, if I knew what that was :) | 08:00 |
| ogra_ | haha | 08:00 |
| pitti | it changes when I try to observe it | 08:01 |
| seb128 | didrocks, you can buy one and claim the money in 6 month | 08:05 |
| pitti | seb128: yeah, just privmsg'ed him that option from the company handbook | 08:06 |
| didrocks | seb128: yeah, we are talking about it, I think I would do that | 08:06 |
| seb128 | didrocks, pitti: ok ;-) | 08:06 |
| didrocks | well, right now, first goal == scp from my it | 08:07 |
| BigWhale | What??! only a handful of upgrades? I am disappoint! :> | 08:10 |
| pitti | BigWhale: is there so much broken for you which needs fixing? :-) | 08:13 |
| pitti | (actually, it's quite a serious question) | 08:13 |
| pitti | there's always things we overlook | 08:13 |
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| seb128 | pitti, I've a 3 pages long list of bugs I want to see SRUed if that's of any use to you ;-) | 08:15 |
| seb128 | which include several GNOME components, unity, lightdm and others | 08:15 |
| BigWhale | pitti, no, everything works. But I like the bad-ass big upgrades. ;) | 08:15 |
| pitti | oh, for sure | 08:15 |
| pitti | but of course the most important bug is still that floppies don't work! | 08:15 |
| seb128 | yeah, how did you dare breaking floppies! | 08:16 |
| * pitti just read a followup on the udisks upstream bug | 08:16 | |
| seb128 | ;-) | 08:16 |
| * pitti takes out the zap-o-matic | 08:16 | |
| * pitti aims | 08:16 | |
| * pitti aims more carefully... | 08:16 | |
| pitti | ZAP! | 08:16 |
| pitti | there, all floppies in the world just died | 08:16 |
| bryceh | pitti, what are these "floppies" you mention? | 08:18 |
| pitti | bryceh: <jedi wave> don't worry, my friend; nothing that you want to know | 08:18 |
| bryceh | heh | 08:18 |
| === JackyAlcine is now known as jalcine | ||
| bryceh | pitti, but I copied Ubuntu 12.04 onto a set of 5 1/4" disks, can't I install from them? | 08:20 |
| === jalcine is now known as siibot | ||
| BigWhale | Let's not talk about floppies. It brings back bitter memories of installing SLS from 40 3.5" floppies and then at the end at 30+ something floppies shuffled, getting a CRC error ... :/ | 08:21 |
| RAOF | Aaah, rotating rust. | 08:21 |
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| pitti | *chuckle* | 08:22 |
| pitti | RAOF: this is so much going to be the name of ubuntu 13.10! | 08:23 |
| pitti | err, 13.04 | 08:23 |
| === Jacky is now known as siibot | ||
| === siibot is now known as jacky | ||
| bryceh | 13 such a lucky number | 08:25 |
| Sweetshark | pitti, anyone: can you nominate bug 986205 for precise? | 08:26 |
| ubot2 | Launchpad bug 986205 in libreoffice "libreoffice-writer needs libreoffice-base for form controls (libdbalo.so missing from libreoffice-base-core)" [High,Fix committed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/986205 | 08:26 |
| pitti | Sweetshark: done | 08:28 |
| Sweetshark | pitti: thanks | 08:30 |
| pitti | Sweetshark: ubuntu3 uploaded, danke! | 08:49 |
| Sweetshark | pitti: /me bows to his uploader overload. | 08:53 |
| Sweetshark | s/overload/overlord/ | 08:54 |
| * Sweetshark finds coffeine ... | 08:54 | |
| chrisccoulson | good morning everyone | 09:27 |
| seb128 | chrisccoulson, hey, how are you? | 09:29 |
| chrisccoulson | hi seb128. i'm good thanks, although a bit tired. i slept in a bit this morning ;) | 09:31 |
| chrisccoulson | how are you? | 09:31 |
| seb128 | chrisccoulson, late hacking or precise release party? ;-) | 09:33 |
| seb128 | chrisccoulson, I'm good thanks | 09:33 |
| seb128 | chrisccoulson, or did you spend the night playing angry birds space? ;-) | 09:33 |
| chrisccoulson | seb128, yeah, a bit of the last one, with some whisky ;) | 09:33 |
| seb128 | ;-) | 09:34 |
| seb128 | chrisccoulson, is the space version good? I need to try it | 09:34 |
| chrisccoulson | seb128, yeah, it's quite a lot of fun | 09:35 |
| pitti | need to try that; I recently played Rio when I locked myself out of my flat for an hour | 09:37 |
| ogra_ | you didnt just google "how to unlock a door using credit cards" ? | 09:38 |
| seb128 | ogra_, he doesn't need to, he's praticing taekwondo, he could just have broken the door with his feet ;-) | 09:41 |
| ogra_ | oh indeed | 09:42 |
| * ogra_ remembers the team building exercise from the SF allhands | 09:42 | |
| ogra_ | theoretically we all should be able to :) | 09:42 |
| seb128 | ogra_, do you need to put it in fire first then? | 09:46 |
| ogra_ | yeah, else your motivation wont be high enough | 09:46 |
| chrisccoulson | heh, this is pretty cool http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=lUZ-e2SkeMI ;) | 10:21 |
| pitti | meh, seems I bricked unity 3d by switching to 2d once | 11:09 |
| seb128 | "bricked"? | 11:12 |
| pitti | lightdm eternally hangs at "Authenticating...", and "startx" from vt1 just gives me a black screen | 11:12 |
| pitti | hmm | 11:12 |
| pitti | but guest session 3d doesn't work either | 11:12 |
| seb128 | pitti, oh, you get that bug as well! | 11:13 |
| seb128 | I wonder if something changed recently which broke lightdm | 11:14 |
| seb128 | pitti, like you type your password on unity-greeter, it does write "login in..." but never log in | 11:14 |
| pitti | yes | 11:14 |
| seb128 | you can go back to the user list using esc | 11:14 |
| seb128 | but never log in again? | 11:14 |
| seb128 | pitti, I bet the lightdm process is stucked in a read() | 11:15 |
| pitti | I'm now logged into 2d | 11:15 |
| pitti | that works | 11:15 |
| seb128 | hum | 11:15 |
| seb128 | different bug then | 11:15 |
| === MacSlow is now known as MacSlow|lunch | ||
| seb128 | mine wouldn't log in any user when that happens | 11:15 |
| seb128 | not even a guest session | 11:15 |
| seb128 | lightdm it stucked in a read() for me | 11:15 |
| seb128 | i.e seems to auth dialog doesn't go well and lightdm keeps waiting for some extra packets from the greeter than never come | 11:16 |
| seb128 | to->the | 11:16 |
| pitti | hm, now 3D guest session works | 11:16 |
| pitti | bah | 11:16 |
| seb128 | pitti, yours might be different then | 11:16 |
| seb128 | but there is a bug there somewhere | 11:16 |
| seb128 | pitti, for me the session doesn't matter, it's on second login | 11:16 |
| seb128 | like if I log into user, log out and try to log in again | 11:17 |
| seb128 | then I need to restart lightdm to be able to auth again | 11:17 |
| seb128 | pitti, I discussed it a bit with mterry wednesday, we said we would debug it together next week, will be easier than over IRC | 11:17 |
| seb128 | pitti, bug #987614 btw | 11:18 |
| ubot2 | Launchpad bug 987614 in lightdm "Stuck at login screen with status "Logging in..."" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/987614 | 11:18 |
| pitti | ah, thanks | 11:19 |
| seb128 | pitti, I did plan to send an email to robert about it today, I will Cc you on it | 11:20 |
| pitti | I'm not quite sure what triggered it | 11:21 |
| seb128 | pitti, though I'm unsure you got the same bug if you managed to recover without restarting lightdm | 11:21 |
| pitti | I played aorund with python3.2 this morning, and temporarily disabled pulseaudio, but reverted that | 11:21 |
| pitti | and installed -proposed | 11:21 |
| pitti | seb128: oh, I restarted lightdm a few times | 11:21 |
| pitti | when it got stuck, it became useless, so I "sudo stop lightdm" and start again | 11:21 |
| pitti | and then tried with 2d | 11:22 |
| pitti | perhaps that was just luck | 11:22 |
| seb128 | pitti, for me, if I log in, out and, try to log in again it's stucked | 11:22 |
| seb128 | pitti, oh, so it might be the same | 11:22 |
| seb128 | pitti, it happens on second login | 11:22 |
| seb128 | so you need to log out and try to log in again | 11:22 |
| seb128 | then it's stucked until you restart lightdm | 11:22 |
| seb128 | pitti, first login after restart will always work | 11:22 |
| seb128 | the 2d or 3d is a red herring | 11:23 |
| seb128 | chrisccoulson, ok, thanks for making that theme discussion spam stop, I should have though of unassigning the bug earlier ;-) | 11:26 |
| chrisccoulson | heh :) | 11:27 |
| seb128 | ok->oh | 11:27 |
| chrisccoulson | yeah, that was getting pretty annoying now | 11:27 |
| pitti | seb128: ok, *phew*, 3d works now; a couple of lightdm restarts helped | 11:29 |
| seb128 | pitti, a couple? weird... are you sure it's not the same bug I described? | 11:30 |
| pitti | stopping and restarting, then trying to login hung | 11:30 |
| seb128 | pitti, if you have a test user try to change user, log into it, log out, log in again | 11:30 |
| pitti | I have | 11:30 |
| pitti | seb128: that seems to work | 11:31 |
| pitti | so, it sounds related to the bug, just not the same recipe | 11:32 |
| seb128 | pitti, ok, maybe it's account specific | 11:32 |
| seb128 | pitti, well anyway it's on my "want to get SRU fixed" list ;-) | 11:32 |
| seb128 | pitti, I will make sure we fix it with mterry,robert_ancell at UDS, my laptop has the issue so can debug it there | 11:33 |
| pitti | cool, thanks | 11:33 |
| * pitti dives into SRUs | 11:33 | |
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| === greybacklunch is now known as greyback|lunch | ||
| === bilal_ is now known as bilal | ||
| pitti | OMG, didrocks, stop spamming ~ubuntu-sru bugs! :-) | 12:25 |
| didrocks | pitti: heh, and it's not finished! still 2d coming! :) | 12:25 |
| didrocks | pitti: you escape bamf, seb128 spotted a bad regression at the last minute :) | 12:26 |
| pitti | didrocks: does quickly still use the --prefix stuff from cdbs? | 12:28 |
| didrocks | pitti: yeah | 12:28 |
| pitti | ok, thanks | 12:28 |
| === MacSlow|lunch is now known as MacSlow | ||
| === greyback|lunch is now known as greyback | ||
| pitti | didrocks: the opt-prefix test case fails now | 12:51 |
| pitti | due to http://launchpadlibrarian.net/83410795/python-support_1.0.14ubuntu1_1.0.14ubuntu2.diff.gz | 12:51 |
| pitti | it's not caught by the buildds as this test only runs if python-support is installed | 12:51 |
| pitti | so that isn't working in precise any more | 12:52 |
| pitti | should the p-support delta be reintroduced, or the delta in cdbs dropped? | 12:52 |
| pitti | I guess at some point quickly needs to move to dh_python2 and perhaps add a dh_quickly or so to move the stuff around to /opt ? | 12:53 |
| didrocks | pitti: well, anyway, I think right now nobody is using /opt with quickly TBH | 12:55 |
| didrocks | pitti: and I still find this as being a hack, so moving dh_python2 will be the right choice | 12:55 |
| pitti | ok | 12:56 |
| chrisccoulson | pitti - can ubuntu derivatives use apport to report bugs, or is https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/firefox/+bug/989632/comments/2 a limitation of mint? | 13:03 |
| ubot2 | Launchpad bug 989632 in firefox "Firefox loose localization after update" [Undecided,Invalid] | 13:03 |
| chrisccoulson | just wondering what to tell the reporter ;) | 13:03 |
| pitti | chrisccoulson: hm, I never tried it on a derivative, nor heard anyone trying that, TBH | 13:04 |
| pitti | chrisccoulson: it depends on how mint set up /etc/apport/crashdb.py | 13:04 |
| pitti | err, .conf | 13:04 |
| pitti | if they left distro at "ubuntu" or set it to "mint", etc. | 13:05 |
| pitti | didrocks: hm, lots of the bugs that the unity SRU refers to are already "fix released".. | 13:06 |
| didrocks | pitti: urgh, I forgot to remove the one that were cherry-picked… sorry | 13:07 |
| didrocks | pitti: the list is normally: | 13:07 |
| pitti | ah, ok | 13:07 |
| chrisccoulson | pitti - thanks | 13:07 |
| chrisccoulson | i'm just downloading a mint iso to have a look ;) | 13:07 |
| pitti | didrocks: so I guess I'll open them all again and don't send the call for testing to the closed ones | 13:08 |
| didrocks | bug #965323, bug #981168, bug #980828, bug #861250, bug #959339, bug #981795, bug #980544 | 13:08 |
| ubot2 | Launchpad bug 965323 in unity "Panel is transparent when Dash is open; no blur no average BG color" [High,Fix released] https://launchpad.net/bugs/965323 | 13:08 |
| ubot2 | Launchpad bug 981168 in unity "Regression: Installing apps causes a terrible visual glitch-- have to restart X.org." [Critical,Fix released] https://launchpad.net/bugs/981168 | 13:08 |
| ubot2 | Launchpad bug 980828 in unity "the shortcut keys in workspace section of the shortcut overlay aren't translated" [High,Fix released] https://launchpad.net/bugs/980828 | 13:08 |
| ubot2 | Launchpad bug 861250 in ayatana-design "alt-tab - quick alt + tab (before the switcher shows) not consistent" [Critical,Fix released] https://launchpad.net/bugs/861250 | 13:08 |
| ubot2 | Launchpad bug 959339 in unity "Launcher, Alt-Tab - clicking on launcher item or selecting a app in Alt-Tab raises all app windows, not just most recently focused" [Critical,Fix released] https://launchpad.net/bugs/959339 | 13:08 |
| didrocks | pitti: this is the *precise* list :) | 13:08 |
| pitti | didrocks: of the new ones? thanks | 13:08 |
| didrocks | pitti: sorry again, I putted this in a tomoboy note in my TODO for today, but as my laptop crashed | 13:08 |
| didrocks | pitti: right, those are the ones that are already in precise finale and can be repeated on the list | 13:09 |
| pitti | didrocks: no worries, I was just wondering whether something went wrong | 13:09 |
| didrocks | no, I tried to prepared it before ;) | 13:09 |
| didrocks | but well, I can see the bones of my laptop now | 13:09 |
| didrocks | ok, now that the SRU is done, let's send an email to dx and then on fixing the laptop for now | 13:10 |
| chrisccoulson | has anyone tried searching for "zerg rush" in google? | 13:11 |
| pitti | lol | 13:13 |
| chrisccoulson | hmmm, downloading from PPA's is painfully slow today. i hope i can actually get the firefox 13 update tested before the weekend | 13:15 |
| chrisccoulson | pitti - oh, they don't even install apport | 13:26 |
| chrisccoulson | they seem to be modifying files provided by our firefox package too | 13:27 |
| chrisccoulson | wow, they set "browser.EULA.override". they're certainly not allowed to do that :( | 13:28 |
| ogra_ | sue them ! | 13:29 |
| chrisccoulson | ogra_, i hate the fact that we have to show it, so it's annoying when other people just go ahead and disable it | 13:31 |
| ogra_ | yeah, you should definitely ping them about it | 13:31 |
| pitti | so long, have a nice weekend everyone! I'm off Mon/Tue | 13:32 |
| chrisccoulson | pitti - have a nice long weekend :) | 13:32 |
| ogra_ | pitti, tanz schoen in den mai :) | 13:32 |
| seb128 | chrisccoulson, where do we find what mint is doing to our packages? ;-) | 13:36 |
| chrisccoulson | seb128, i just installed a mint iso | 13:36 |
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| ogra_ | seb128, there was a thread (i think on warthogs) wheer the security team analyzed it | 13:37 |
| seb128 | ogra_, there was nothing useful there | 13:37 |
| ogra_ | iirc there was a description of what mdeslaur did to find out about it | 13:37 |
| seb128 | ogra_, I read the thread | 13:37 |
| seb128 | ogra_, well I don't care about firefox, I care about all GNOME | 13:37 |
| seb128 | ogra_, I wonder if they have a unified vcs or a package archive | 13:37 |
| seb128 | when I looked to it I failed to find a place which had easy access to all changes | 13:38 |
| ogra_ | ah, k | 13:38 |
| ogra_ | didnt marc say in the thread that they modified the version string for touched packages ? | 13:38 |
| didrocks | ok, card in the oven, 20 minutes, 180°C | 13:40 |
| seb128 | ogra_, well, that would require me to install mint or download an iso | 13:41 |
| seb128 | ogra_, I don't want to do that every week to watch what they did | 13:41 |
| seb128 | ogra_, I would prefer a -changes list or a vcs or patches.mintlinux.com or something | 13:42 |
| ogra_ | well, dont they have a ML where you can ask ? | 13:42 |
| seb128 | ogra_, I was being lazy and figured I would ask there if somebody knows before looking further | 13:44 |
| seb128 | seems the reply is that nobody knows | 13:44 |
| * ogra_ wouldnt touch mint with a 5ft pole | 13:44 | |
| seb128 | hehe | 13:44 |
| mdeslaur | seb128: you can look at the list of packages that they change | 13:45 |
| mdeslaur | seb128: http://packages.linuxmint.com/list.php?release=Maya | 13:45 |
| mdeslaur | they don't write anything in the changelogs though | 13:46 |
| seb128 | mdeslaur, that list is buggy, i.e firefox is not there | 13:46 |
| mdeslaur | and one of the packages installs an init script that manually clobbers files and artwork on boot | 13:46 |
| mdeslaur | seb128: they don't modify the firefox package, they have an init script that replaces the artwork at every boot | 13:46 |
| seb128 | urg | 13:47 |
| mdeslaur | +1 | 13:47 |
| ogra_ | heh | 13:47 |
| ogra_ | efficient programming :) | 13:47 |
| chrisccoulson | mdeslaur, oh, i was wondering how they modified our package | 13:48 |
| mdeslaur | look at the package called "mintsystem" | 13:49 |
| chrisccoulson | oh, wow | 13:51 |
| chrisccoulson | how fragile is that? | 13:51 |
| chrisccoulson | should i feel bad that the firefox update we pushed to oneiric breaks their customizations? ;) | 13:51 |
| smspillaz | didrocks: so .... are you planning on getting a new laptop any time soon? ;-) | 13:52 |
| kenvandine | yikie, that is craptastic :) | 13:53 |
| didrocks | smspillaz: I think I'll have to :) | 13:54 |
| chrisccoulson | mdeslaur, i'm actually tempted to report a mint bug kindly requesting that they modify mintsystem to remove the distribution.ini from their firefox install (seeing as that contains specific info to identify canonical builds) ;) | 13:56 |
| mdeslaur | chrisccoulson: sure :) | 13:57 |
| chrisccoulson | mdeslaur, oh, they already do | 13:58 |
| chrisccoulson | so, i wonder what happens when i upgrade firefox. i guess that their customizations are broken until a restart | 13:59 |
| mdeslaur | chrisccoulson: which package contains their firefox mangling scripts? | 13:59 |
| mdeslaur | chrisccoulson: yeah, you probably revert to ubuntu artwork until you reboot :P | 13:59 |
| chrisccoulson | mdeslaur, mint-artwork-common | 14:00 |
| mdeslaur | chrisccoulson: hehe, nice: rm -rf /usr/lib/firefox-addons/searchplugins/* | 14:02 |
| chrisccoulson | mdeslaur, one thing we changed in this update is the layout of searchplugin installation (to match the upstream layout, so we could drop a patch we didn't really need) | 14:03 |
| kenvandine | that is really sad that so many people seem to be using mint considering the way they do that mangling | 14:03 |
| chrisccoulson | and their scripts make an assumption of the old layout | 14:03 |
| chrisccoulson | so that's broken now | 14:03 |
| chrisccoulson | they will end up with both ubuntu + mint searchplugins | 14:03 |
| chrisccoulson | oh well | 14:03 |
| mdeslaur | chrisccoulson: oh well | 14:03 |
| chrisccoulson | i can't believe how dumb this is | 14:03 |
| ogra_ | and that worries you because ? | 14:03 |
| chrisccoulson | ogra_, because mint users report bugs against our package in launchpad | 14:05 |
| ogra_ | reject them :) | 14:06 |
| chrisccoulson | if they tell me they use mint, i will | 14:06 |
| ogra_ | or assign them to the mint project (assuming there is one on LP) | 14:06 |
| chrisccoulson | but a mint user reported a bug this morning and said he was using oneiric | 14:06 |
| chrisccoulson | he neglected to tell me he was using Mint 12, which is based on oneiric until his second comment | 14:06 |
| seb128 | chrisccoulson, refuse any bug non apport reported ;-) | 14:10 |
| chrisccoulson | seb128, that's basically what i do already | 14:10 |
| chrisccoulson | i should probably make that more clear at the top of https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MozillaTeam/Bugs | 14:11 |
| mdeslaur | chrisccoulson: it was an apport filed bug from mint? | 14:11 |
| chrisccoulson | mdeslaur, no, they can't use apport to report firefox bugs | 14:11 |
| ogra_ | chrisccoulson, cant you put something into ubufox you could check for ? | 14:14 |
| ogra_ | assuming they dont install ubufox indeed | 14:14 |
| ogra_ | so if you are not sure a user runs mint you ask for the content of file "foople" and if they dotn have it you know its not ubuntu :) | 14:17 |
| chrisccoulson | oh, this is elegant. they have a dpkg trigger for /usr/lib/firefox-addons/searchplugins/google.xml which reruns their mintsystem hack on upgrade | 14:38 |
| seb128 | chrisccoulson, stop wasting time on mint, that will not help your users ;-) | 14:39 |
| chrisccoulson | seb128, i'm just interested to find out how bad mint is | 14:39 |
| chrisccoulson | but i'm discovering that it's so bad, it almost makes me want to vomit | 14:39 |
| seb128 | chrisccoulson, well, "bad enough to not use it" ;-) | 14:39 |
| chrisccoulson | heh | 14:39 |
| seb128 | chrisccoulson, do they change the search affiliation code to their own or something? | 14:40 |
| seb128 | chrisccoulson, they did that with the music stores | 14:40 |
| chrisccoulson | seb128, yeah, they completely replace our searchplugins using their init script | 14:40 |
| seb128 | chrisccoulson, can they do that? | 14:40 |
| chrisccoulson | but, that no longer works with the oneiric update we just published ;) | 14:41 |
| seb128 | or do they need mozilla's agreement for that sort of changes? | 14:41 |
| chrisccoulson | seb128, i'm not sure if they can do that. i don't know if they have an agreement or not | 14:41 |
| chrisccoulson | i'm guessing "not" by the look of some of the changes they make | 14:41 |
| chrisccoulson | particularly disabling the EULA, which we're obliged to show | 14:41 |
| chrisccoulson | lol @ https://twitter.com/#!/robcee/status/195881656278716416 ;) | 14:44 |
| mdeslaur | They probably don't have an agreement for shipping the binary flash plugin in their repo either | 14:45 |
| seb128 | hehe | 14:45 |
| seb128 | chrisccoulson, yeah, it's fun how they hide kernel upgrades and some others, they have their own scale of how much those upgrades annoy users or something | 14:46 |
| mdeslaur | who needs security updates, right? | 14:46 |
| seb128 | chrisccoulson, like after kernel update you should reboot so they don't suggest them ;-) | 14:46 |
| seb128 | mdeslaur, well if you have a secure system like linuxmint you don't need them for sure ;-) | 14:46 |
| ogra_ | dont they also hide Xorg security updates as well ? | 14:46 |
| ogra_ | probably to make sure nobody uninstalls their version that contains the keyloggers :) | 14:47 |
| chrisccoulson | ogra_, yes, they hide xorg security updates too | 14:49 |
| mdeslaur | chrisccoulson: http://ubuntuforums.org/showpost.php?p=11712141&postcount=10 | 14:51 |
| chrisccoulson | lol | 14:52 |
| mdeslaur | chrisccoulson: denial! http://ubuntuforums.org/showpost.php?p=11712615&postcount=18 | 14:52 |
| chrisccoulson | hah! | 14:53 |
| seb128 | cyphermox, hey | 15:24 |
| cyphermox | seb128: hey | 15:24 |
| seb128 | cyphermox, how are you? | 15:24 |
| cyphermox | good, yourself? | 15:24 |
| seb128 | I'm good thanks | 15:24 |
| seb128 | cyphermox, looking most common issues reported through whoopsie on the lts | 15:25 |
| seb128 | cyphermox, https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/gnome-control-center/+bug/912948 is on the list | 15:25 |
| cyphermox | ok | 15:25 |
| ubot2 | Launchpad bug 912948 in gnome-control-center "gnome-control-center crashed with SIGSEGV in refresh_ui()" [Medium,Confirmed] | 15:25 |
| seb128 | cyphermox, do you think there is any chance you could have a look? | 15:25 |
| seb128 | cyphermox, it's in the network capplet | 15:25 |
| seb128 | cyphermox, https://launchpadlibrarian.net/102499638/Stacktrace.txt is a current version stacktrace | 15:25 |
| cyphermox | right, I wonder if that's what I'm just about to upload a fix to -proposed for | 15:26 |
| seb128 | cyphermox, you think it's the same as the ssid one? | 15:26 |
| cyphermox | I think so, checking now | 15:26 |
| seb128 | cyphermox, please hold off on the upload, I'm about to commit some soundnua fixes from Conor to the vcs, would be nice to have them in the same upload ;-) | 15:26 |
| cyphermox | yes, I was going to ask before ;) | 15:27 |
| cyphermox | so, maybe it's not actually the same thing after all, or the traces are too old | 15:27 |
| seb128 | cyphermox, the one I pointed is 15 days old | 15:29 |
| cyphermox | yeah | 15:29 |
| cyphermox | it | 15:29 |
| cyphermox | it's not the SSID thing, but I know what this is, I think | 15:29 |
| seb128 | ok | 15:29 |
| cyphermox | let's give it a shot now, brb | 15:29 |
| seb128 | thanks ;-) | 15:30 |
| cyphermox | yeah, it's pretty easy to reproduce ;) | 15:30 |
| didrocks | and this is a fixed laptop again :) | 15:38 |
| dupondje | damn, i'm always impressed by the amount of bugs a unity upload fixes :) | 16:00 |
| dupondje | didrocks++ :) | 16:00 |
| didrocks | ;) | 16:01 |
| ksian | how to start GUI in ubuntu 12.04 | 16:01 |
| Chipaca | hi all. Quick question about process: do i have to add or remove a tag when I successfully test something in -proposed? | 16:04 |
| dupondje | didrocks: the fix for Remmina, could that fix the issue that I was unable to maximize it on a second screen (it always tooked 2 screens then) | 16:04 |
| didrocks | dupondje: yeah, it can be linked to the issue you mentionned | 16:04 |
| didrocks | dupondje: better to test though :) | 16:04 |
| dupondje | nice :) will do that | 16:06 |
| dupondje | working a bit on improving Remmina atm :) | 16:06 |
| didrocks | great! | 16:08 |
| * didrocks waves good week-end, time for lyon's release party :) | 16:08 | |
| dobey | Chipaca: generally the verification-needed can be changed to verification-done | 17:02 |
| Chipaca | dobey: done :) | 17:03 |
| Chipaca | dobey: thanks | 17:03 |
| Chipaca | i've also figured out what was breaking the server-side workaround, so all is well | 17:03 |
| seb128 | chrisccoulson, there? | 17:03 |
| chrisccoulson | seb128, yeah | 17:04 |
| seb128 | chrisccoulson, I'm unhappy! | 17:04 |
| chrisccoulson | how come? :( | 17:05 |
| seb128 | chrisccoulson, if I can't go to UDS it will be your fault :p | 17:05 |
| seb128 | chrisccoulson, http://people.canonical.com/~seb128/firefox.png | 17:06 |
| chrisccoulson | oh, that doesn't look good :/ | 17:06 |
| chrisccoulson | it did work here when i printed mine though | 17:07 |
| seb128 | chrisccoulson, that's my esta, I think they will not like it :p | 17:07 |
| seb128 | chrisccoulson, their summary page printed fine, the screwed one was me doing a "print to file" of the summary screen before they asked me if I wanted to print if | 17:09 |
| chrisccoulson | ah, i didn't try that | 17:09 |
| chrisccoulson | i only saved the summary page | 17:09 |
| seb128 | chrisccoulson, joke aside there is a good chance the issue is in cairo,poppler,gtk | 17:09 |
| chrisccoulson | yeah, possibly :) | 17:10 |
| chrisccoulson | i'm not sure how to debug that sort of issue though :/ | 17:10 |
| * seb128 hugs chrisccoulson | 17:10 | |
| * chrisccoulson hugs seb128 | 17:10 | |
| seb128 | chrisccoulson, I'm not sure either, usually if you come with a testcase the cairo guys figure it out of you ;-) | 17:11 |
| seb128 | but printing random pages doesn't have that issue | 17:11 |
| chrisccoulson | heh, printing the page that's broken for you seems to work here :/ | 17:13 |
| seb128 | chrisccoulson, do you get that if you print https://esta.cbp.dhs.gov/esta/application.html ? | 17:13 |
| chrisccoulson | i beat you to it ;) | 17:13 |
| seb128 | chrisccoulson, :-( | 17:13 |
| seb128 | well it reproduce the bug there, but I'm on firefox 11 still | 17:14 |
| chrisccoulson | ah, you're out of date already ;) | 17:14 |
| chrisccoulson | i should probably try with an older version actually | 17:14 |
| chrisccoulson | i'm on 15.0 here ;) | 17:14 |
| seb128 | chrisccoulson, epiphany prints it fine | 17:16 |
| chrisccoulson | ok, so it seems like it might really be a firefox issue then | 17:16 |
| chrisccoulson | i'd definitely try upgrading first though :) | 17:16 |
| chrisccoulson | i'll try with the current beta here, which is the oldest version i have ;) | 17:16 |
| chrisccoulson | that works too :/ | 17:18 |
| chrisccoulson | seb128, is it just printing to pdf which is broken? ie, is the print preview broken as well? | 17:18 |
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| seb128 | chrisccoulson, wth? | 17:19 |
| seb128 | chrisccoulson, the print preview is fine, printing from it works, if I do file, print, and print from there it's buggy | 17:20 |
| seb128 | oh no, it's buggy this time from the print preview screen | 17:20 |
| seb128 | hum, maybe I screwed it the first time | 17:21 |
| seb128 | chrisccoulson, the print preview is fine | 17:21 |
| chrisccoulson | seb128, do you want to see if it's still an issue in the current version too? | 17:21 |
| seb128 | chrisccoulson, sure, were do I get it? | 17:21 |
| chrisccoulson | seb128, you're still in 11.0, aren't you? if so, just run a normal upgrade :) | 17:22 |
| seb128 | chrisccoulson, print to ps is fine, it's only an issue to pdf | 17:22 |
| seb128 | chrisccoulson, ah, I though you meant 15 when you said "current" | 17:22 |
| chrisccoulson | heh | 17:22 |
| chrisccoulson | yeah, that's current for me ;) | 17:23 |
| seb128 | chrisccoulson, https://launchpad.net/~ubuntu-mozilla-daily/+archive/ppa/+packages | 17:23 |
| seb128 | is that the right ppa if I want crack? ;-) | 17:23 |
| chrisccoulson | seb128, yeah, that's the right one for crack | 17:24 |
| chrisccoulson | or https://launchpad.net/~mozillateam/+archive/firefox-next if you don't want as much crack ;) | 17:24 |
| chrisccoulson | i wish i could change the description of a PPA without launchpad timing out | 17:28 |
| seb128 | chrisccoulson, it doesn't happen with the crack version | 17:30 |
| seb128 | chrisccoulson, iz firefox bog in 11 then | 17:30 |
| chrisccoulson | seb128, ok, that's good :) | 17:30 |
| seb128 | yeah | 17:31 |
| chrisccoulson | seb128, do you know if it happens with the beta too? | 17:31 |
| seb128 | chrisccoulson, which beta? | 17:31 |
| chrisccoulson | seb128, this one: https://launchpad.net/~mozillateam/+archive/firefox-next ;) | 17:31 |
| seb128 | 13? | 17:31 |
| seb128 | let me try | 17:31 |
| chrisccoulson | thanks | 17:32 |
| seb128 | chrisccoulson, works fine with 13 | 17:37 |
| chrisccoulson | seb128, excellent, thanks | 17:37 |
| chrisccoulson | that's good then :) | 17:37 |
| seb128 | yw | 17:38 |
| seb128 | chrisccoulson, "good", the precise release is still buggy :p | 17:38 |
| chrisccoulson | seb128, well, 11 is. i'm not sure about 12, which is what we pushed out today. but if it's fixed in 13, then at least i don't have to do anything :) | 17:38 |
| seb128 | hehe | 17:39 |
| chrisccoulson | and it will be fixed in precise in 6 weeks, assuming it isn't already :) | 17:39 |
| chrisccoulson | 6 week release processes rock ;) | 17:39 |
| seb128 | chrisccoulson, yeah | 17:42 |
| seb128 | chrisccoulson, well in any case I'm glad it's a bug of firefox | 17:42 |
| seb128 | chrisccoulson, I didn't look forward debugging a cairo bug there | 17:42 |
| chrisccoulson | heh :) | 17:42 |
| chrisccoulson | and i'm glad it's a bug that's already been fixed :) | 17:42 |
| seb128 | chrisccoulson, I'm sure it was a secret plan to get me to install firefox 13 and firefox-trunk 15 | 17:42 |
| chrisccoulson | yeah ;) | 17:43 |
| seb128 | ;-) | 17:43 |
| chrisccoulson | oh, that's better, now that precise is released. the number of downloads from the beta PPA is going up a bit faster :) | 17:50 |
| BigWhale | I need GStreamer 1.0 in Quantal ... :/ | 19:12 |
| dobey | BigWhale: well at least it's not python3 :) | 19:17 |
| BigWhale | I'd like python3 too | 19:18 |
| dobey | though i guess rhythmbox getting ported to gst 1.0 for 12.10 is also a huge project | 19:18 |
| BigWhale | because right now, what I have is a clusterfsck of different things. | 19:18 |
| dobey | BigWhale: well, you already have the choice to use python3. but it's not a requirement :) | 19:18 |
| BigWhale | I can't | 19:18 |
| BigWhale | I need gstreamer 1.0 first | 19:19 |
| dobey | heh | 19:19 |
| BigWhale | beacuse there's no static gstreamer binding for python3 | 19:19 |
| dobey | though i guess we can ship gstreamer 1.0 in main or universe but not installed by default, if all the default apps aren't ported | 19:20 |
| BigWhale | dobey, it would be very very nice, to have it | 19:20 |
| dobey | BigWhale: but you can use the GI bindings for gst 0.10 in python 3 right now, no? | 19:20 |
| kenvandine | dobey, nope | 19:20 |
| BigWhale | dobey, I was told: "Hahahahah, no." | 19:21 |
| BigWhale | something like that | 19:21 |
| dobey | well i guess you can barely use them in python 2 | 19:21 |
| BigWhale | GI for gstreamer 0.10 is broken | 19:21 |
| dobey | :) | 19:21 |
| BigWhale | I tried | 19:21 |
| kenvandine | i've seen someone else complain about that too | 19:21 |
| dobey | s/for gstreamer 0.10// | 19:21 |
| BigWhale | :)) | 19:21 |
| dobey | and makes it insanely hard to support both old versions of gtk, and the new version | 19:22 |
| BigWhale | Meh, someone should declare Gtk2 obsolete and stop shipping it in main :> | 19:22 |
| mlankhorst | BigWhale: mm.. if only gtk3 had qtcurve engine again :) | 19:23 |
| kenvandine | someone convince mozilla and google | 19:23 |
| kenvandine | and LO | 19:23 |
| BigWhale | All that is GTK2? | 19:23 |
| kenvandine | yeah | 19:23 |
| * BigWhale sobs quietly. | 19:23 | |
| kenvandine | BigWhale, you can port those over the weekend, right? | 19:23 |
| mlankhorst | all 3 i hope :D | 19:24 |
| BigWhale | If I could, I'd wear a cape and my underwear over my pants ... | 19:24 |
| kenvandine | i'd pay good money to see that | 19:25 |
| BigWhale | me in a cape? or those ports? | 19:25 |
| BigWhale | (just making sure) ... | 19:25 |
| BigWhale | :)) | 19:25 |
| mlankhorst | you doing those feats, then getting arrested | 19:25 |
| kenvandine | either :) | 19:25 |
| * mlankhorst grabs popcorn | 19:26 | |
| BigWhale | I think I'm getting a headache. :> | 19:26 |
| BigWhale | I better write some code ... | 19:26 |
| mlankhorst | "Hold on, I'm just about to be brilliant." | 19:27 |
| kenvandine | of course now in my time of need, i can't find photos of ubuntu man from UDS | 19:27 |
| BigWhale | ubuntu man? and you're not talking about Jono in a hot-dog costume, right? that was Fedora wiener. | 19:29 |
| BigWhale | :> | 19:29 |
| kenvandine | http://photos.pixoulphotography.com/Events/UDS-Precise/20221518_XQsjKJ#!i=1598156630&k=8k2tBdf | 19:30 |
| kenvandine | BigWhale, ^^ | 19:30 |
| BigWhale | haha | 19:31 |
| BigWhale | Awesome. | 19:31 |
| kenvandine | a full body photo would be better | 19:31 |
| kenvandine | he was orange from head to toe | 19:31 |
| kenvandine | :) | 19:31 |
| kenvandine | oh and the hulk at the halloween party was awesome | 19:32 |
| kenvandine | http://photos.pixoulphotography.com/Events/UDS-Precise/20221518_XQsjKJ#!i=1598285416&k=Hz8vN2f&lb=1&s=A | 19:32 |
| mlankhorst | oh my | 19:32 |
| mlankhorst | and his trusty sidekick on the right? | 19:33 |
| BigWhale | There's no PPA for GStreamer 1.0 | 19:37 |
| dobey | bah, evil gcc | 19:56 |
| dobey | BigWhale: i don't think we're going to stop shipping gtk2 in main on lucid and natty :) | 19:57 |
| BigWhale | dobey, well, those can stay ... | 19:58 |
| BigWhale | ... for now! :> | 19:58 |
| dobey | BigWhale: yes, well, it makes it really hard for me to support them with new versions :( | 19:58 |
| * desrt discovers a very very very bad situation to be in with apt | 19:59 | |
| dobey | and now gcc is already breaking some of my stuff on quantal :( | 19:59 |
| BigWhale | dobey, gtk3 only distribution would be nice, but I know it can't really happen anytime soon(ish)... | 20:00 |
| dobey | BigWhale: isn't that what elementary is? | 20:00 |
| dobey | though i guess they probably haven't ported all their half-done apps to gtk3 yet? :) | 20:00 |
| BigWhale | no idea, I never really tried it. | 20:01 |
| dobey | hrmm, even midori is still gtk2 though | 20:01 |
| BigWhale | I've turned into a full fledged fan-boy :/ | 20:01 |
| dobey | the big problem with a gtk3 browser, is flash is still gtk2; though should be a non-issue hopefully with webkit2 | 20:01 |
| BigWhale | what about chrome(ium)? | 20:02 |
| BigWhale | what do they use? | 20:02 |
| dobey | chrome is moving to some new thing | 20:04 |
| dobey | aura or something? | 20:04 |
| dobey | because we all need more widget sets | 20:05 |
| BigWhale | there world will only be happy when every one has their own widget set. | 20:05 |
| BigWhale | :> | 20:06 |
| kenvandine | one widget set per app right? | 20:06 |
| BigWhale | per app? pffft! | 20:06 |
| BigWhale | per person! | 20:06 |
| dobey | per IP per day | 20:14 |
| mlankhorst | ip != person | 20:27 |
| Daviey | 189406 | 21:04 |
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