chrisccoulsonwell, so much for giving up alcohol!01:54
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pittiGood morning04:18
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didrocksgood morning05:21
* didrocks now releases unity and unity 2D 5.12 in -proposed05:40
* micahg hopes didrocks means into -proposed05:42
didrocksmicahg: yeah, into ;)05:44
didrockswell, I need to do the upstream tarballs first05:45
pittihey didrocks05:49
pittihey micahg05:49
pittiso, what do we break first?05:49
didrockspitti: I can already push compiz if you want :p05:50
didrockspitti: we already went to a round of breakage/fix with the pre-release unity, hoping it was the only one :)05:50
* pitti pats didrocks on the back05:51
pittioff for a bit for breakfast and such05:51
pittijust wanted to finish that blog post05:51
micahghi pitti05:52
didrockspitti: ok, what breaks first is my daily kernel panic in fact05:53
pittitime for oven?05:53
didrockspitti: ah no, it's a real bug I guess ;)05:54
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Sweetsharkpitti, seb128: Any chance for one of you to look at 3.5.2-2ubuntu3?07:52
pittihey Sweetshark07:54
pittioh, sure07:54
didrockspitti: oh, you were so right when talking about oven time for the laptop07:54
didrocks… graphical card just screwed again right now07:55
didrocksand I have all my release stuff on that computer :/07:55
RAOFTime for another round of laptop-baking?07:56
ogra_didrocks, time to move to lubuntu :)07:57
didrockswell, time first to try to get my release preparation on my netbook :/07:58
didrocksbut with all the screen screwed, even in console mode07:58
didrocksnot easy07:58
ogra_ssh from another machine ?07:58
seb128hey didrocks pitti07:59
didrocksogra_: for that, I need to connect it to the network :p07:59
didrockssalut seb12807:59
pittibonjour seb128, how are you?07:59
seb128pitti, I'm good thanks, how are you?07:59
pittididrocks: time for a new laptop perhaps?07:59
pittiseb128: feeling precise!07:59
ogra_not feeling quantal yet ?07:59
didrockspitti: well, refresh is in less than 6 month, will be a shame to buy 2 in short time :)07:59
pittiogra_: maybe, if I knew what that was :)08:00
pittiit changes when I try to observe it08:01
seb128didrocks, you can buy one and claim the money in 6 month08:05
pittiseb128: yeah, just privmsg'ed him that option from the company handbook08:06
didrocksseb128: yeah, we are talking about it, I think I would do that08:06
seb128didrocks, pitti: ok ;-)08:06
didrockswell, right now, first goal == scp from my it08:07
BigWhaleWhat??! only a handful of upgrades? I am disappoint! :>08:10
pittiBigWhale: is there so much broken for you which needs fixing? :-)08:13
pitti(actually, it's quite a serious question)08:13
pittithere's always things we overlook08:13
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seb128pitti, I've a 3 pages long list of bugs I want to see SRUed if that's of any use to you ;-)08:15
seb128which include several GNOME components, unity, lightdm and others08:15
BigWhalepitti, no, everything works. But I like the bad-ass big upgrades. ;)08:15
pittioh, for sure08:15
pittibut of course the most important bug is still that floppies don't work!08:15
seb128yeah, how did you dare breaking floppies!08:16
* pitti just read a followup on the udisks upstream bug08:16
* pitti takes out the zap-o-matic08:16
* pitti aims08:16
* pitti aims more carefully...08:16
pittithere, all floppies in the world just died08:16
brycehpitti, what are these "floppies" you mention?08:18
pittibryceh: <jedi wave> don't worry, my friend; nothing that you want to know08:18
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brycehpitti, but I copied Ubuntu 12.04 onto a set of 5 1/4" disks, can't I install from them?08:20
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BigWhaleLet's not talk about floppies. It brings back bitter memories of installing SLS from 40 3.5" floppies and then at the end at 30+ something floppies shuffled, getting a CRC error ... :/08:21
RAOFAaah, rotating rust.08:21
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pittiRAOF: this is so much going to be the name of ubuntu 13.10!08:23
pittierr, 13.0408:23
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bryceh13 such a lucky number08:25
Sweetsharkpitti, anyone: can you nominate bug 986205 for precise?08:26
ubot2Launchpad bug 986205 in libreoffice "libreoffice-writer needs libreoffice-base for form controls (libdbalo.so missing from libreoffice-base-core)" [High,Fix committed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/98620508:26
pittiSweetshark: done08:28
Sweetsharkpitti: thanks08:30
pittiSweetshark: ubuntu3 uploaded, danke!08:49
Sweetsharkpitti: /me bows to his uploader overload.08:53
* Sweetshark finds coffeine ...08:54
chrisccoulsongood morning everyone09:27
seb128chrisccoulson, hey, how are you?09:29
chrisccoulsonhi seb128. i'm good thanks, although a bit tired. i slept in a bit this morning ;)09:31
chrisccoulsonhow are you?09:31
seb128chrisccoulson, late hacking or precise release party? ;-)09:33
seb128chrisccoulson, I'm good thanks09:33
seb128chrisccoulson, or did you spend the night playing angry birds space? ;-)09:33
chrisccoulsonseb128, yeah, a bit of the last one, with some whisky ;)09:33
seb128chrisccoulson, is the space version good? I need to try it09:34
chrisccoulsonseb128, yeah, it's quite a lot of fun09:35
pittineed to try that; I recently played Rio when I locked myself out of my flat for an hour09:37
ogra_you didnt just google "how to unlock a door using credit cards" ?09:38
seb128ogra_, he doesn't need to, he's praticing taekwondo, he could just have broken the door with his feet ;-)09:41
ogra_oh indeed09:42
* ogra_ remembers the team building exercise from the SF allhands09:42
ogra_theoretically we all should be able to :)09:42
seb128ogra_, do you need to put it in fire first then?09:46
ogra_yeah, else your motivation wont be high enough09:46
chrisccoulsonheh, this is pretty cool http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=lUZ-e2SkeMI ;)10:21
pittimeh, seems I bricked unity 3d by switching to 2d once11:09
pittilightdm eternally hangs at "Authenticating...", and "startx" from vt1 just gives me a black screen11:12
pittibut guest session 3d doesn't work either11:12
seb128pitti, oh, you get that bug as well!11:13
seb128I wonder if something changed recently which broke lightdm11:14
seb128pitti, like you type your password on unity-greeter, it does write "login in..." but never log in11:14
seb128you can go back to the user list using esc11:14
seb128but never log in again?11:14
seb128pitti, I bet the lightdm process is stucked in a read()11:15
pittiI'm now logged into 2d11:15
pittithat works11:15
seb128different bug then11:15
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seb128mine wouldn't log in any user when that happens11:15
seb128not even a guest session11:15
seb128lightdm it stucked in a read() for me11:15
seb128i.e seems to auth dialog doesn't go well and lightdm keeps waiting for some extra packets from the greeter than never come11:16
pittihm, now 3D guest session works11:16
seb128pitti, yours might be different then11:16
seb128but there is a bug there somewhere11:16
seb128pitti, for me the session doesn't matter, it's on second login11:16
seb128like if I log into user, log out and try to log in again11:17
seb128then I need to restart lightdm to be able to auth again11:17
seb128pitti, I discussed it a bit with mterry wednesday, we said we would debug it together next week, will be easier than over IRC11:17
seb128pitti, bug #987614 btw11:18
ubot2Launchpad bug 987614 in lightdm "Stuck at login screen with status "Logging in..."" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/98761411:18
pittiah, thanks11:19
seb128pitti, I did plan to send an email to robert about it today, I will Cc you on it11:20
pittiI'm not quite sure what triggered it11:21
seb128pitti, though I'm unsure you got the same bug if you managed to recover without restarting lightdm11:21
pittiI played aorund with python3.2 this morning, and temporarily disabled pulseaudio, but reverted that11:21
pittiand installed -proposed11:21
pittiseb128: oh, I restarted lightdm a few times11:21
pittiwhen it got stuck, it became useless, so I "sudo stop lightdm" and start again11:21
pittiand then tried with 2d11:22
pittiperhaps that was just luck11:22
seb128pitti, for me, if I log in, out and, try to log in again it's stucked11:22
seb128pitti, oh, so it might be the same11:22
seb128pitti, it happens on second login11:22
seb128so you need to log out and try to log in again11:22
seb128then it's stucked until you restart lightdm11:22
seb128pitti, first login after restart will always work11:22
seb128the 2d or 3d is a red herring11:23
seb128chrisccoulson, ok, thanks for making that theme discussion spam stop, I should have though of unassigning the bug earlier ;-)11:26
chrisccoulsonheh :)11:27
chrisccoulsonyeah, that was getting pretty annoying now11:27
pittiseb128: ok, *phew*, 3d works now; a couple of lightdm restarts helped11:29
seb128pitti, a couple? weird... are you sure it's not the same bug I described?11:30
pittistopping and restarting, then trying to login hung11:30
seb128pitti, if you have a test user try to change user, log into it, log out, log in again11:30
pittiI have11:30
pittiseb128: that seems to work11:31
pittiso, it sounds related to the bug, just not the same recipe11:32
seb128pitti, ok, maybe it's account specific11:32
seb128pitti, well anyway it's on my "want to get SRU fixed" list ;-)11:32
seb128pitti, I will make sure we fix it with mterry,robert_ancell at UDS, my laptop has the issue so can debug it there11:33
pitticool, thanks11:33
* pitti dives into SRUs11:33
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pittiOMG, didrocks, stop spamming ~ubuntu-sru bugs! :-)12:25
didrockspitti: heh, and it's not finished! still 2d coming! :)12:25
didrockspitti: you escape bamf, seb128 spotted a bad regression at the last minute :)12:26
pittididrocks: does quickly still use the --prefix stuff from cdbs?12:28
didrockspitti: yeah12:28
pittiok, thanks12:28
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pittididrocks: the opt-prefix test case fails now12:51
pittidue to http://launchpadlibrarian.net/83410795/python-support_1.0.14ubuntu1_1.0.14ubuntu2.diff.gz12:51
pittiit's not caught by the buildds as this test only runs if python-support is installed12:51
pittiso that isn't working in precise any more12:52
pittishould the p-support delta be reintroduced, or the delta in cdbs dropped?12:52
pittiI guess at some point quickly needs to move to dh_python2 and perhaps add a dh_quickly or so to move the stuff around to /opt ?12:53
didrockspitti: well, anyway, I think right now nobody is using /opt with quickly TBH12:55
didrockspitti: and I still find this as being a hack, so moving dh_python2 will be the right choice12:55
chrisccoulsonpitti -  can ubuntu derivatives use apport to report bugs, or is https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/firefox/+bug/989632/comments/2 a limitation of mint?13:03
ubot2Launchpad bug 989632 in firefox "Firefox loose localization after update" [Undecided,Invalid]13:03
chrisccoulsonjust wondering what to tell the reporter ;)13:03
pittichrisccoulson: hm, I never tried it on a derivative, nor heard anyone trying that, TBH13:04
pittichrisccoulson: it depends on how mint set up /etc/apport/crashdb.py13:04
pittierr, .conf13:04
pittiif they left distro at "ubuntu" or set it to "mint", etc.13:05
pittididrocks: hm, lots of the bugs that the unity SRU refers to are already "fix released"..13:06
didrockspitti: urgh, I forgot to remove the one that were cherry-picked… sorry13:07
didrockspitti: the list is normally:13:07
pittiah, ok13:07
chrisccoulsonpitti - thanks13:07
chrisccoulsoni'm just downloading a mint iso to have a look ;)13:07
pittididrocks: so I guess I'll open them all again and don't send the call for testing to the closed ones13:08
didrocksbug #965323, bug #981168, bug #980828, bug #861250, bug #959339, bug #981795, bug #98054413:08
ubot2Launchpad bug 965323 in unity "Panel is transparent when Dash is open; no blur no average BG color" [High,Fix released] https://launchpad.net/bugs/96532313:08
ubot2Launchpad bug 981168 in unity "Regression: Installing apps causes a terrible visual glitch-- have to restart X.org." [Critical,Fix released] https://launchpad.net/bugs/98116813:08
ubot2Launchpad bug 980828 in unity "the shortcut keys in workspace section of the shortcut overlay aren't translated" [High,Fix released] https://launchpad.net/bugs/98082813:08
ubot2Launchpad bug 861250 in ayatana-design "alt-tab - quick alt + tab (before the switcher shows) not consistent" [Critical,Fix released] https://launchpad.net/bugs/86125013:08
ubot2Launchpad bug 959339 in unity "Launcher, Alt-Tab - clicking on launcher item or selecting a app in Alt-Tab raises all app windows, not just most recently focused" [Critical,Fix released] https://launchpad.net/bugs/95933913:08
didrockspitti: this is the *precise* list :)13:08
pittididrocks: of the new ones? thanks13:08
didrockspitti: sorry again, I putted this in a tomoboy note in my TODO for today, but as my laptop crashed13:08
didrockspitti: right, those are the ones that are already in precise finale and can be repeated on the list13:09
pittididrocks: no worries, I was just wondering whether something went wrong13:09
didrocksno, I tried to prepared it before ;)13:09
didrocksbut well, I can see the bones of my laptop now13:09
didrocksok, now that the SRU is done, let's send an email to dx and then on fixing the laptop for now13:10
chrisccoulsonhas anyone tried searching for "zerg rush" in google?13:11
chrisccoulsonhmmm, downloading from PPA's is painfully slow today. i hope i can actually get the firefox 13 update tested before the weekend13:15
chrisccoulsonpitti - oh, they don't even install apport13:26
chrisccoulsonthey seem to be modifying files provided by our firefox package too13:27
chrisccoulsonwow, they set "browser.EULA.override". they're certainly not allowed to do that :(13:28
ogra_sue them !13:29
chrisccoulsonogra_, i hate the fact that we have to show it, so it's annoying when other people just go ahead and disable it13:31
ogra_yeah, you should definitely ping them about it13:31
pittiso long, have a nice weekend everyone! I'm off Mon/Tue13:32
chrisccoulsonpitti - have a nice long weekend :)13:32
ogra_pitti, tanz schoen in den mai :)13:32
seb128chrisccoulson, where do we find what mint is doing to our packages? ;-)13:36
chrisccoulsonseb128, i just installed a mint iso13:36
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ogra_seb128, there was a thread (i think on warthogs) wheer the security team analyzed it13:37
seb128ogra_, there was nothing useful there13:37
ogra_iirc there was a description of what mdeslaur did to find out about it13:37
seb128ogra_, I read the thread13:37
seb128ogra_, well I don't care about firefox, I care about all GNOME13:37
seb128ogra_, I wonder if they have a unified vcs or a package archive13:37
seb128when I looked to it I failed to find a place which had easy access to all changes13:38
ogra_ah, k13:38
ogra_didnt marc say in the thread that they modified the version string for touched packages ?13:38
didrocksok, card in the oven, 20 minutes, 180°C13:40
seb128ogra_, well, that would require me to install mint or download an iso13:41
seb128ogra_, I don't want to do that every week to watch what they did13:41
seb128ogra_, I would prefer a -changes list or a vcs or patches.mintlinux.com or something13:42
ogra_well, dont they have a ML where you can ask ?13:42
seb128ogra_, I was being lazy and figured I would ask there if somebody knows before looking further13:44
seb128seems the reply is that nobody knows13:44
* ogra_ wouldnt touch mint with a 5ft pole13:44
mdeslaurseb128: you can look at the list of packages that they change13:45
mdeslaurseb128: http://packages.linuxmint.com/list.php?release=Maya13:45
mdeslaurthey don't write anything in the changelogs though13:46
seb128mdeslaur, that list is buggy, i.e firefox is not there13:46
mdeslaurand one of the packages installs an init script that manually clobbers files and artwork on boot13:46
mdeslaurseb128: they don't modify the firefox package, they have an init script that replaces the artwork at every boot13:46
ogra_efficient programming :)13:47
chrisccoulsonmdeslaur, oh, i was wondering how they modified our package13:48
mdeslaurlook at the package called "mintsystem"13:49
chrisccoulsonoh, wow13:51
chrisccoulsonhow fragile is that?13:51
chrisccoulsonshould i feel bad that the firefox update we pushed to oneiric breaks their customizations? ;)13:51
smspillazdidrocks: so .... are you planning on getting a new laptop any time soon? ;-)13:52
kenvandineyikie, that is craptastic :)13:53
didrockssmspillaz: I think I'll have to :)13:54
chrisccoulsonmdeslaur, i'm actually tempted to report a mint bug kindly requesting that they modify mintsystem to remove the distribution.ini from their firefox install (seeing as that contains specific info to identify canonical builds) ;)13:56
mdeslaurchrisccoulson: sure :)13:57
chrisccoulsonmdeslaur, oh, they already do13:58
chrisccoulsonso, i wonder what happens when i upgrade firefox. i guess that their customizations are broken until a restart13:59
mdeslaurchrisccoulson: which package contains their firefox mangling scripts?13:59
mdeslaurchrisccoulson: yeah, you probably revert to ubuntu artwork until you reboot :P13:59
chrisccoulsonmdeslaur, mint-artwork-common14:00
mdeslaurchrisccoulson: hehe, nice: rm -rf /usr/lib/firefox-addons/searchplugins/*14:02
chrisccoulsonmdeslaur, one thing we changed in this update is the layout of searchplugin installation (to match the upstream layout, so we could drop a patch we didn't really need)14:03
kenvandinethat is really sad that so many people seem to be using mint considering the way they do that mangling14:03
chrisccoulsonand their scripts make an assumption of the old layout14:03
chrisccoulsonso that's broken now14:03
chrisccoulsonthey will end up with both ubuntu + mint searchplugins14:03
chrisccoulsonoh well14:03
mdeslaurchrisccoulson: oh well14:03
chrisccoulsoni can't believe how dumb this is14:03
ogra_and that worries you because ?14:03
chrisccoulsonogra_, because mint users report bugs against our package in launchpad14:05
ogra_reject them :)14:06
chrisccoulsonif they tell me they use mint, i will14:06
ogra_or assign them to the mint project (assuming there is one on LP)14:06
chrisccoulsonbut a mint user reported a bug this morning and said he was using oneiric14:06
chrisccoulsonhe neglected to tell me he was using Mint 12, which is based on oneiric until his second comment14:06
seb128chrisccoulson, refuse any bug non apport reported ;-)14:10
chrisccoulsonseb128, that's basically what i do already14:10
chrisccoulsoni should probably make that more clear at the top of https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MozillaTeam/Bugs14:11
mdeslaurchrisccoulson: it was an apport filed bug from mint?14:11
chrisccoulsonmdeslaur, no, they can't use apport to report firefox bugs14:11
ogra_chrisccoulson, cant you put something into ubufox you could check for ?14:14
ogra_assuming they dont install ubufox indeed14:14
ogra_so if you are not sure a user runs mint you ask for the content of file "foople" and if they dotn have it you know its not ubuntu :)14:17
chrisccoulsonoh, this is elegant. they have a dpkg trigger for /usr/lib/firefox-addons/searchplugins/google.xml which reruns their mintsystem hack on upgrade14:38
seb128chrisccoulson, stop wasting time on mint, that will not help your users ;-)14:39
chrisccoulsonseb128, i'm just interested to find out how bad mint is14:39
chrisccoulsonbut i'm discovering that it's so bad, it almost makes me want to vomit14:39
seb128chrisccoulson, well, "bad enough to not use it" ;-)14:39
seb128chrisccoulson, do they change the search affiliation code to their own or something?14:40
seb128chrisccoulson, they did that with the music stores14:40
chrisccoulsonseb128, yeah, they completely replace our searchplugins using their init script14:40
seb128chrisccoulson, can they do that?14:40
chrisccoulsonbut, that no longer works with the oneiric update we just published ;)14:41
seb128or do they need mozilla's agreement for that sort of changes?14:41
chrisccoulsonseb128, i'm not sure if they can do that. i don't know if they have an agreement or not14:41
chrisccoulsoni'm guessing "not" by the look of some of the changes they make14:41
chrisccoulsonparticularly disabling the EULA, which we're obliged to show14:41
chrisccoulsonlol @ https://twitter.com/#!/robcee/status/195881656278716416 ;)14:44
mdeslaurThey probably don't have an agreement for shipping the binary flash plugin in their repo either14:45
seb128chrisccoulson, yeah, it's fun how they hide kernel upgrades and some others, they have their own scale of how much those upgrades annoy users or something14:46
mdeslaurwho needs security updates, right?14:46
seb128chrisccoulson, like after kernel update you should reboot so they don't suggest them ;-)14:46
seb128mdeslaur, well if you have a secure system like linuxmint you don't need them for sure ;-)14:46
ogra_dont they also hide Xorg security updates as well ?14:46
ogra_probably to make sure nobody uninstalls their version that contains the keyloggers :)14:47
chrisccoulsonogra_, yes, they hide xorg security updates too14:49
mdeslaurchrisccoulson: http://ubuntuforums.org/showpost.php?p=11712141&postcount=1014:51
mdeslaurchrisccoulson: denial! http://ubuntuforums.org/showpost.php?p=11712615&postcount=1814:52
seb128cyphermox, hey15:24
cyphermoxseb128: hey15:24
seb128cyphermox, how are you?15:24
cyphermoxgood, yourself?15:24
seb128I'm good thanks15:24
seb128cyphermox, looking most common issues reported through whoopsie on the lts15:25
seb128cyphermox, https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/gnome-control-center/+bug/912948 is on the list15:25
ubot2Launchpad bug 912948 in gnome-control-center "gnome-control-center crashed with SIGSEGV in refresh_ui()" [Medium,Confirmed]15:25
seb128cyphermox, do you think there is any chance you could have a look?15:25
seb128cyphermox, it's in the network capplet15:25
seb128cyphermox, https://launchpadlibrarian.net/102499638/Stacktrace.txt is a current version stacktrace15:25
cyphermoxright, I wonder if that's what I'm just about to upload a fix to -proposed for15:26
seb128cyphermox, you think it's the same as the ssid one?15:26
cyphermoxI think so, checking now15:26
seb128cyphermox, please hold off on the upload, I'm about to commit some soundnua fixes from Conor to the vcs, would be nice to have them in the same upload ;-)15:26
cyphermoxyes, I was going to ask before ;)15:27
cyphermoxso, maybe it's not actually the same thing after all, or the traces are too old15:27
seb128cyphermox, the one I pointed is 15 days old15:29
cyphermoxit's not the SSID thing, but I know what this is, I think15:29
cyphermoxlet's give it a shot now, brb15:29
seb128thanks ;-)15:30
cyphermoxyeah, it's pretty easy to reproduce ;)15:30
didrocksand this is a fixed laptop again :)15:38
dupondjedamn, i'm always impressed by the amount of bugs a unity upload fixes :)16:00
dupondjedidrocks++ :)16:00
ksianhow to start GUI in ubuntu 12.0416:01
Chipacahi all. Quick question about process: do i have to add or remove a tag when I successfully test something in -proposed?16:04
dupondjedidrocks: the fix for Remmina, could that fix the issue that I was unable to maximize it on a second screen (it always tooked 2 screens then)16:04
didrocksdupondje: yeah, it can be linked to the issue you mentionned16:04
didrocksdupondje: better to test though :)16:04
dupondjenice :) will do that16:06
dupondjeworking a bit on improving Remmina atm :)16:06
* didrocks waves good week-end, time for lyon's release party :)16:08
dobeyChipaca: generally the verification-needed can be changed to verification-done17:02
Chipacadobey: done :)17:03
Chipacadobey: thanks17:03
Chipacai've also figured out what was breaking the server-side workaround, so all is well17:03
seb128chrisccoulson, there?17:03
chrisccoulsonseb128, yeah17:04
seb128chrisccoulson, I'm unhappy!17:04
chrisccoulsonhow come? :(17:05
seb128chrisccoulson, if I can't go to UDS it will be your fault :p17:05
seb128chrisccoulson, http://people.canonical.com/~seb128/firefox.png17:06
chrisccoulsonoh, that doesn't look good :/17:06
chrisccoulsonit did work here when i printed mine though17:07
seb128chrisccoulson, that's my esta, I think they will not like it :p17:07
seb128chrisccoulson, their summary page printed fine, the screwed one was me doing a "print to file" of the summary screen before they asked me if I wanted to print if17:09
chrisccoulsonah, i didn't try that17:09
chrisccoulsoni only saved the summary page17:09
seb128chrisccoulson, joke aside there is a good chance the issue is in cairo,poppler,gtk17:09
chrisccoulsonyeah, possibly :)17:10
chrisccoulsoni'm not sure how to debug that sort of issue though :/17:10
* seb128 hugs chrisccoulson17:10
* chrisccoulson hugs seb12817:10
seb128chrisccoulson, I'm not sure either, usually if you come with a testcase the cairo guys figure it out of you ;-)17:11
seb128but printing random pages doesn't have that issue17:11
chrisccoulsonheh, printing the page that's broken for you seems to work here :/17:13
seb128chrisccoulson, do you get that if you print https://esta.cbp.dhs.gov/esta/application.html ?17:13
chrisccoulsoni beat you to it ;)17:13
seb128chrisccoulson, :-(17:13
seb128well it reproduce the bug there, but I'm on firefox 11 still17:14
chrisccoulsonah, you're out of date already ;)17:14
chrisccoulsoni should probably try with an older version actually17:14
chrisccoulsoni'm on 15.0 here ;)17:14
seb128chrisccoulson, epiphany prints it fine17:16
chrisccoulsonok, so it seems like it might really be a firefox issue then17:16
chrisccoulsoni'd definitely try upgrading first though :)17:16
chrisccoulsoni'll try with the current beta here, which is the oldest version i have ;)17:16
chrisccoulsonthat works too :/17:18
chrisccoulsonseb128, is it just printing to pdf which is broken? ie, is the print preview broken as well?17:18
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seb128chrisccoulson, wth?17:19
seb128chrisccoulson, the print preview is fine, printing from it works, if I do file, print, and print from there it's buggy17:20
seb128oh no, it's buggy this time from the print preview screen17:20
seb128hum, maybe I screwed it the first time17:21
seb128chrisccoulson, the print preview is fine17:21
chrisccoulsonseb128, do you want to see if it's still an issue in the current version too?17:21
seb128chrisccoulson, sure, were do I get it?17:21
chrisccoulsonseb128, you're still in 11.0, aren't you? if so, just run a normal upgrade :)17:22
seb128chrisccoulson, print to ps is fine, it's only an issue to pdf17:22
seb128chrisccoulson, ah, I though you meant 15 when you said "current"17:22
chrisccoulsonyeah, that's current for me ;)17:23
seb128chrisccoulson, https://launchpad.net/~ubuntu-mozilla-daily/+archive/ppa/+packages17:23
seb128is that the right ppa if I want crack? ;-)17:23
chrisccoulsonseb128, yeah, that's the right one for crack17:24
chrisccoulsonor https://launchpad.net/~mozillateam/+archive/firefox-next if you don't want as much crack ;)17:24
chrisccoulsoni wish i could change the description of a PPA without launchpad timing out17:28
seb128chrisccoulson, it doesn't happen with the crack version17:30
seb128chrisccoulson, iz firefox bog in 11 then17:30
chrisccoulsonseb128, ok, that's good :)17:30
chrisccoulsonseb128, do you know if it happens with the beta too?17:31
seb128chrisccoulson, which beta?17:31
chrisccoulsonseb128, this one: https://launchpad.net/~mozillateam/+archive/firefox-next ;)17:31
seb128let me try17:31
seb128chrisccoulson, works fine with 1317:37
chrisccoulsonseb128, excellent, thanks17:37
chrisccoulsonthat's good then :)17:37
seb128chrisccoulson, "good", the precise release is still buggy :p17:38
chrisccoulsonseb128, well, 11 is. i'm not sure about 12, which is what we pushed out today. but if it's fixed in 13, then at least i don't have to do anything :)17:38
chrisccoulsonand it will be fixed in precise in 6 weeks, assuming it isn't already :)17:39
chrisccoulson6 week release processes rock ;)17:39
seb128chrisccoulson, yeah17:42
seb128chrisccoulson, well in any case I'm glad it's a bug of firefox17:42
seb128chrisccoulson, I didn't look forward debugging a cairo bug there17:42
chrisccoulsonheh :)17:42
chrisccoulsonand i'm glad it's a bug that's already been fixed :)17:42
seb128chrisccoulson, I'm sure it was a secret plan to get me to install firefox 13 and firefox-trunk 1517:42
chrisccoulsonyeah ;)17:43
chrisccoulsonoh, that's better, now that precise is released. the number of downloads from the beta PPA is going up a bit faster :)17:50
BigWhaleI need GStreamer 1.0 in Quantal ... :/19:12
dobeyBigWhale: well at least it's not python3 :)19:17
BigWhaleI'd like python3 too19:18
dobeythough i guess rhythmbox getting ported to gst 1.0 for 12.10 is also a huge project19:18
BigWhalebecause right now, what I have is a clusterfsck of different things.19:18
dobeyBigWhale: well, you already have the choice to use python3. but it's not a requirement :)19:18
BigWhaleI can't19:18
BigWhaleI need gstreamer 1.0 first19:19
BigWhalebeacuse there's no static gstreamer binding for python319:19
dobeythough i guess we can ship gstreamer 1.0 in main or universe but not installed by default, if all the default apps aren't ported19:20
BigWhaledobey, it would be very very nice, to have it19:20
dobeyBigWhale: but you can use the GI bindings for gst 0.10 in python 3 right now, no?19:20
kenvandinedobey, nope19:20
BigWhaledobey, I was told: "Hahahahah, no."19:21
BigWhalesomething like that19:21
dobeywell i guess you can barely use them in python 219:21
BigWhaleGI for gstreamer 0.10 is broken19:21
BigWhaleI tried19:21
kenvandinei've seen someone else complain about that too19:21
dobeys/for gstreamer 0.10//19:21
dobeyand makes it insanely hard to support both old versions of gtk, and the new version19:22
BigWhaleMeh, someone should declare Gtk2 obsolete and stop shipping it in main :>19:22
mlankhorstBigWhale: mm.. if only gtk3 had qtcurve engine again :)19:23
kenvandinesomeone convince mozilla and google19:23
kenvandineand LO19:23
BigWhaleAll that is GTK2?19:23
* BigWhale sobs quietly.19:23
kenvandineBigWhale, you can port those over the weekend, right?19:23
mlankhorstall 3 i hope :D19:24
BigWhaleIf I could, I'd wear a cape and my underwear over my pants ...19:24
kenvandinei'd pay good money to see that19:25
BigWhaleme in a cape? or those ports?19:25
BigWhale(just making sure) ...19:25
mlankhorstyou doing those feats, then getting arrested19:25
kenvandineeither :)19:25
* mlankhorst grabs popcorn19:26
BigWhaleI think I'm getting a headache. :>19:26
BigWhaleI better write some code ...19:26
mlankhorst"Hold on, I'm just about to be brilliant."19:27
kenvandineof course now in my time of need, i can't find photos of ubuntu man from UDS19:27
BigWhaleubuntu man? and you're not talking about Jono in a hot-dog costume, right? that was Fedora wiener.19:29
kenvandineBigWhale, ^^19:30
kenvandinea full body photo would be better19:31
kenvandinehe was orange from head to toe19:31
kenvandineoh and the hulk at the halloween party was awesome19:32
mlankhorstoh my19:32
mlankhorstand his trusty sidekick on the right?19:33
BigWhaleThere's no PPA for GStreamer 1.019:37
dobeybah, evil gcc19:56
dobeyBigWhale: i don't think we're going to stop shipping gtk2 in main on lucid and natty :)19:57
BigWhaledobey, well, those can stay ...19:58
BigWhale... for now! :>19:58
dobeyBigWhale: yes, well, it makes it really hard for me to support them with new versions :(19:58
* desrt discovers a very very very bad situation to be in with apt19:59
dobeyand now gcc is already breaking some of my stuff on quantal :(19:59
BigWhaledobey, gtk3 only distribution would be nice, but I know it can't really happen anytime soon(ish)...20:00
dobeyBigWhale: isn't that what elementary is?20:00
dobeythough i guess they probably haven't ported all their half-done apps to gtk3 yet? :)20:00
BigWhaleno idea, I never really tried it.20:01
dobeyhrmm, even midori is still gtk2 though20:01
BigWhaleI've turned into a full fledged fan-boy :/20:01
dobeythe big problem with a gtk3 browser, is flash is still gtk2; though should be a non-issue hopefully with webkit220:01
BigWhalewhat about chrome(ium)?20:02
BigWhalewhat do they use?20:02
dobeychrome is moving to some new thing20:04
dobeyaura or something?20:04
dobeybecause we all need more widget sets20:05
BigWhalethere world will only be happy when every one has their own widget set.20:05
kenvandineone widget set per app right?20:06
BigWhaleper app? pffft!20:06
BigWhaleper person!20:06
dobeyper IP per day20:14
mlankhorstip != person20:27
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