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* apw wonders if he can get off the updates elevator07:18
* ppisati didn't know we had an elevator... :)07:20
apwheh ... i see the archive is suitibly slow for release +107:22
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_rubendutch mirror seemed to keep just fine last night (updated my local repo at ~70Mbps)07:23
dileksapw: speaking of archiche.u.c? yes, its slow07:25
apwdileks, i am looking at gb.archive.u.c (a different location it seems) and that is slow also07:27
dileks( I skipped de-archive to save some MB on each upgrade. dunno if ubuntu allows also archive-diff/pkgs-diff on upgrades )07:28
dileksapprox. 20M each time07:29
* ppisati -> brb08:49
apwogasawara, i've made the 'kernel essential topic' thingy: https://blueprints.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+spec/topic-quantal-kernel-essential09:41
apwogasawara, i have also added it to the specs spage09:46
* ppisati -> brb (again)10:08
apwsmb, https://blueprints.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+spec/servercloud-q-lxc one you might want to attend10:30
smbapw, yeah, and probably other ones in that generic realm10:32
apwsmb, if you see anything you think i should be on, let me know10:34
smbapw, will do10:34
ppisatismb: there's an ARM server track that you might be insterested in10:35
smbppisati, maybe... (/me is looking through things)10:36
ppisatismb: well, i'10:37
ppisatill go anyway10:37
smbapw, https://blueprints.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+spec/servercloud-q-userns10:37
ppisatiall the UEFI stuff10:37
apwsmb, https://blueprints.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+spec/servercloud-q-devicens10:41
smbapw, refresh :)10:41
* ppisati -> out for lunch10:52
Madkisshi folks!11:30
MadkissI just realized that linux-image-3.2.0-24.37-virtual is missing DRBD11:31
Madkissor rather, drbd.ko11:31
Madkissis there any particular reason for that?11:31
smbMadkiss, for virtual only a limited set of modules is in the kernel package. There is an extras package containing the rest11:41
ogra_sounds like "linux-image-very-unreal" :P11:42
Madkissdid that change between -23 and -24?11:43
smbno, that should have been that way since start of 3.211:43
Madkisslinux-image-3.2.0-23-generic did contain drbd.ko11:44
MadkissNOW I see it11:44
Madkisssorry for the noise11:45
smbno worries. :)11:46
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_rubeninteresting .. was gonna install precise on an old PE2950 with quad core 1.6 xeon .. kernel freezes when booting the installer :/12:19
_rubenlast lines regard disable aspm (?) and pre-1.1 pcie devices12:19
tgardner_ruben, have you tried acpi=off ?12:21
_rubenhaven't tried anything yet .. hitting google for hints .. and this channel :)12:22
tgardner_ruben, has it booted any prior release?12:22
smbcking, ^ what was the choices for aspm?12:22
ckingoff, default, performance, powersave12:23
_rubentgardner: this specific box has previously run various windows flavors and esxi, doesn't have linux experience yet12:24
smbHm, documentation only mentions off and force12:24
_rubeni'm gonna try the acpi and pcie_aspm options in a bit12:24
_ruben(collecting as much possibilities, to save on excessive walks up and down to serverroom)12:25
_rubenhavent figured out console redirection on these boxes yet12:25
jdstrandjsalisbury, bjf: hi! have you seen these bugs in Ubuntu on recent lucid kernels: http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=656899, https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=783823 and https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=783955. it seems like the fix for CVE-2011-4127 is what is causing it. RedHat says it is just noise and not a problem. My system seems fine otherwise12:38
ubot2jdstrand: ** RESERVED ** This candidate has been reserved by an organization or individual that will use it when announcing a new security problem.  When the candidate has been publicized, the details for this candidate will be provided. (http://cve.mitre.org/cgi-bin/cvename.cgi?name=CVE-2011-4127)12:38
ubot2Debian bug 656899 in src:linux-2.6 "mdadm: sending ioctl 1261 to a partition warnings in kernel log with kernel 3.2" [Minor,Open]12:38
brendandcking - hi12:40
ckingbrendand, how can I help?12:41
tgardnerjdstrand, I think this is a known log filler annoyance, but otherwise benign12:42
jdstrandtgardner: thanks-- that was the conclusion I was coming to, but wanted to be sure12:42
* jdstrand adds something to logcheck 12:43
brendandcking - i have a strange situation where the same fwts command is running on clients but erroring on servers12:43
brendandcking - i'll pastebin it. two ticks12:43
brendandcking - http://paste.ubuntu.com/949688/12:44
brendandcking, same command runs fine on my own system running precise12:44
brendandcking, it fails on all our servers12:45
ckingbrendand, I suspect it is trying to write to fwts.log but that is not writeable12:47
ckingwhere is this log file, does it already exist but owned by someone like root?12:47
brendandcking - the file doesn't exist yet12:47
ckingbrendand, where are you running it? 12:48
brendandcking - ah, i thought i put the path in the pastebin. i see what you mean, let me try something else12:49
brendandcking - ok, so that might have been a red herring. it's still failing on all our servers though. i'll do a bit more looking12:50
_rubentgardner / smb: acpi=off, pcie_aspm=off/force : no go ... pci=use_crs : boots12:50
_rubenthe latter was suggested in the error i got with the pcie_aspm options, and then to file a bug12:51
smbHm, ok... IIRC that was related to some degree how to set up bridge windows (top down or bottom up). But as you said this is first trial with Linux...12:53
_rubenat the end of that paste, the other attempts would be hanging12:54
_rubenso yes, it's related to the bridge windows12:54
smbRight, though probably more in the sense that the information from acpi is ok but the bios is pre 200812:55
_rubenthat's very likely12:55
_rubenthe pre-2008 part12:56
_rubenstill looking for my update dvd to fully update it, tho given the ancient hardware, i wonder if there'd be much newer bioses avail12:56
smb_ruben, I would be surprised. I rather meant its like the message says. Reporting an upstream bug to add the machine data into an exception table 12:58
_rubenwow .. 12/8/201013:00
_rubenlatest bios13:00
smb_ruben, That is the bios installed or available?13:02
ogasawaraapw: thanks13:02
ppisatimy beagle is still updating...13:03
_rubensmb: avail and being installed now .. going from 1.2.0 to 2.7.0 .. not that that means much :)13:25
smb_ruben, Heh, yeah. At least for you use-case the 2010 date will give you automatically the use_crs ...13:26
_rubensmb: guess we'll see in a bit .. firmware updates (bios/raid/etc) tend to take a while on these dells, once it's done, i'll try to boot without special params13:27
_rubensmb: wheee! .. bios update fixed the boot issue :)13:39
smb:) sometimes they do... sometimes those create new issues... :-P13:40
_rubenugh .. this new purplish background is scary .. it's nearly the same color as ESXi's "purple screen of death" :P13:41
* ogasawara back in 2014:26
bjfbrendand: when can you get to the Oneiric cert testing? bug 98573614:51
ubot2Launchpad bug 985736 in kernel-sru-workflow "linux: 3.0.0-19.33 -proposed tracker" [Undecided,In progress] https://launchpad.net/bugs/98573614:51
brendandbjf - it will definitely be done by the end of the day14:58
bjfbrendand: thanks14:59
brendandbjf - sorry for the delay, we've been having some tools issues14:59
pinqvinis here audio kernel koders?15:00
bjfbrendand: you should have told me you were busy testing the release. tools issues i have much less patience with.15:00
diwicpinqvin, maybe :-)15:03
diwicpinqvin, it depends on what you want ;-)15:03
pinqvindiwic, jeps is here new lowlatency kernel?15:09
pinqvin3.2.0-23-lowlatency is my current kernel is here newer one?15:10
diwicpinqvin, oh, I'm not the right person to answer that.15:10
dileks3.2.0-24-* is released15:11
pinqvindileks,  is there lowlatensy version? 15:20
dilekshmm, -generic(-pae) and virtual (amd64 here)15:21
diwicpinqvin, they are maintained by the ubuntu studio team, so they can lag behind a bit I guess. But I don't have all the details about how those things work.15:23
ohsixmost of the patches that made the rt patch set what it is are in the kernel proper now :]15:23
dilekspinqvin: is that -rt patchset included?15:24
ohsixthe stuff that splits extra drivers into top and bottom halves isn't though; would be curious to see what latencytop has to say in the same scenario where i'm ruining the normal kernel15:25
pinqvindileks, yea15:25
dileksdebian has labeled that sort of kernel with -rt15:26
RobinJ1995diwic? you there? i was referred to you by ogra_16:12
diwicRobinJ1995, I can take a quick question16:24
RobinJ1995probably won't be quick, i'm afraid. diwic, can you help me find a temporary solution until this bug is fixed? https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/pulseaudio/+bug/98499116:26
ubot2Launchpad bug 984991 in pulseaudio "[Latitude D620, SigmaTel STAC9200, Speaker, Internal] Sound disappears" [Undecided,New]16:26
diwicRobinJ1995, *looking* unfortunately it does not look like there is an easy way out of it. Try the stuff here https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Audio/PositionReporting but I'm unsure if it'll help.16:28
RobinJ1995i think i found what caused it!16:29
RobinJ1995If I open the Sound settings panel, no sound device is selected, but the sound is working. The sound stops working from the moment I select one. That's why I can't undo it, because there's no way to "unselect" the only item in the list.16:30
RobinJ1995so how do i reset the value or something?16:30
RobinJ1995diwic, where's it stored?16:30
diwicRobinJ1995, try installing pavucontrol which offers a little more control16:31
diwicunfortunately I have to go now16:31
RobinJ1995bye and thx16:31
diwicplease report any additional findings to the bug report16:31
RobinJ1995YAY! FIXED IT!16:33
* ppisati -> rushes out16:41
smbtgardner, https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Kernel/Reference/Orchestra16:51
smbThe one other thing needed to make xen host be able to be managed by virt-manager (or two)16:52
smbon the host "apt-get install virt-host^"16:52
smbalso on the host edit /etc/xen/xend-config.sxp16:52
smb(xend-unix-server yes)16:52
smb^ this needs to be in there (there is a commented out version with no in it)16:53
tgardnersmb, there is no package named virt-host16:53
smbtgardner, note the ^16:53
smbit should be a task16:53
smbif I did not confise the name16:53
tgardnerindeed. wtf is a taask ?16:54
smbtgardner, the things you can look at with tasksel --list16:54
smblike ubuntu-desktop^16:54
smb(magic group of packages)16:54
tgardnerhuh. learn something new every day16:54
smbWe often do a "apt-get install ubuntu-desktop^" while in develeopment to find out what things we missed out on16:56
smbtgardner, Oh and if a normal user on the host should be able to make use of virtual machines he must be in the libvirtd group16:59
* smb thinks maybe a charm would be nice really...16:59
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greearbHello!  I'm planning to re-spin the 12.04 LTS desktop cd with a modified 3.3 kernel.17:16
greearbIs this the upstream 3.3 kernel:  http://kernel.ubuntu.com/git?p=ubuntu/ubuntu-quantal.git;a=summary ?17:16
tgardnergreearb, v3.4-rc417:18
dilekscheck Makefile :-)17:18
greearbok, is there an upstream 3.3 with ubuntu patches applied?17:19
greearbfor that matter, would a stock 3.3 kernel work on the live-cd?17:20
greearbhappen to know where the git trees for that are?  I need to add my hacks on top of 3.3.3 17:24
dileksgreearb: unfortunately, no17:32
greearbbummer...  Think maybe the v3.4-rc4 tree has some tags that would be something similar to 3.3 + ubuntu patches..or maybe it is rebased on top of the latest upstream when moving to 3.4-rcX?17:35
greearbguess I could run -rc4, but that is liable to be painful :P17:35
dileksgreearb: want to test some wireless stuff?17:40
greearbyeah, and the rest of my patch set17:40
greearbsome of which is too crufty to ever make it upstream :)17:40
dileksgreearb: I use a -generic kernel-config and build upstream GIT with make deb-pkg17:45
greearband that is enough to boot a live-cd?17:46
greearbI was afraid there might be some special patches to make that work that are not upstream...17:46
dileksor pull in some other GIT like net.git|wireless.git|iwlwifi.git#wireless 17:46
dileksdont think so17:47
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dileksIIRC you need aufs or overlayfs support17:47
greearbright, that's what I was thinking17:47
dilekscant say which one is used17:47
greearbgoing to poke around the 3.4-rcx tree and see if I can find some branch that does what I want17:48
dileksdba with debian-live uses aufs, but was highly interested to see overlayfs in upstream17:48
dileksdue to viro union-mounts is favourized17:49
dileksdunno status17:49
dilekswe will see it working with gnu/hurd together17:50
greearbI have other battles to fight, so not going to tangle with that..would rather use the 3.4-rc4 or backport to 3.217:50
dileksgreearb: has fs/overlayfs in its tree17:53
dileksshall include that ubuntu overlayfs support17:56
njinhello can someone translate this :  probe of LNXSLPBN17:57
greearber, so not there yet?17:57
* ogasawara lunch17:57
dileksgreearb: ^^17:57
njinah, sleep button17:57
dileksogasawara: which version of overlayfs is this in 3.4-rc4?17:57
* cking -> EOD17:59
dileksgreearb: http://paste.ubuntu.com/950413/18:06
dileksno problem18:08
greearbthat is your script to build an upstream kernel, w/out the overlay stuff applied?18:08
dileksyou can use it for any kernel shipping debbuild script18:09
dileksyes, I use it to build out of upstream GIT18:10
dilekslocal GIT (branches)*18:10
dileksmaster is for me v3.4-rc4 tag18:12
greearbI wonder if checking out commit 982a02179e5186687124ff2dada922961f52c381 in ubuntu-quantal would do the trick..18:13
dileksgreearb: if you want to fix your $distribution when building with deb-pkg18:14
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dileksgreearb: http://nopaste.snit.ch/13588318:23
greearbI'm having no luck trying to use a previous commit in the quantal git tree...seems like I'm confused about how git branches work or something....still poking around.18:24
dileksgreearb: yeah, its missing this18:34
dileksin the tarball18:35
greearbI'm just going to try the 3.4-rc4 kernel.  I have a bit of time before release, so maybe it will be stable enough.  Lot more fun to port forward than backwards :P18:37
dileksgreearb: which distro?18:38
greearbI'm going to apply my patches on top of ubuntu-quantel git tree (master-next branch)18:38
greearband see what happens18:39
dileksgreearb: have fun!18:40
greearbonly 102 patches, how hard could it be :)18:40
* tgardner -> EOD19:18
dileksgreearb: is overlayfs building for you?19:22
greearbstill working on porting the patches forward20:18
dileksgreearb: before you try with overlayfs <http://nopaste.snit.ch/135908>21:10
greearbI've got the patches ported..having to apt-get 500MB of latex crap to build kernel docs and such it seems...21:11
dileksgreearb: how did you build? with make deb-pkg you do not need to do build-dep before.21:14
dileksPREREQS: Install build-essential, fakeroot and dpkg-dev packages (optional: git)!21:15
dileksdunno if ubuntu has the parallel-make patch for docs21:15
Nafallodileks: you got the source... you can find out :-)21:16
dileksno, I have no ubuntu-kernel source installed yet 21:16
dileksOK, I can look into your GIT repo (debian/patches/...)21:17
greearbdileks:  Following this:  http://blog.avirtualhome.com/compile-linux-kernel-3-2-for-ubuntu-11-10/21:17
dileksI know debians kernel build-system quite well as I modded to build daily linux-next kernels21:20
dileksbut with deb-pkg, hmm, its faster21:20
Nafallodepends where you compile it :-)21:22
dileksthat guy from lll-project reported 2mins with full config21:26
Nafallohe's faster than my netbook then :-P21:27
dileksif you build the whole day llvm/clang21:27
dileksanyway, it was nice to see a linux-kernel compiled with clang booting on i39621:28
dileksNafallo: https://gist.github.com/92918721:28
Nafallono thanks. I'm not sober enough to control a vimperator :-)21:29
dileksNafallo: what do you mean by "sober ... vimperator" ?21:31
NafalloI'm not actually using vimperator anyway...21:31
greearblooks like the ubuntu-quantel top-of-tree blows up in overlayfs code  and fails to compile :(23:30
bjfgreerb, i built the master-next branch just a few hrs ago, let me build the master branch23:31
greearbI'm using master-next, I think23:32
greearbbased on top of this:  7fc527978cd4509e357c780561536335c6498bca23:32
bjfyup, same here23:33
bjfdid you build binary-generic ?23:33
greearbmaking my own derivative..but didn't change much23:33
greearbskipabi=true skipmodule=true fakeroot debian/rules binary-ct23:34
bjfsounds like you changed just enough :-)23:34
greearbbased the config off of whatever ships with 12.0423:34
greearb  LD      arch/x86/built-in.o23:34
greearb  CC [M]  fs/overlayfs/super.o23:34
greearb/home/greearb/ubuntu-quantal/fs/overlayfs/super.c: In function ‘ovl_do_lookup’:23:34
greearb/home/greearb/ubuntu-quantal/fs/overlayfs/super.c:301:4: error: implicit declaration of function ‘prepare_creds’ [-Werror=implicit-function-declaration]23:34
greearb/home/greearb/ubuntu-quantal/fs/overlayfs/super.c:301:18: warning: assignment makes pointer from integer without a cast [enabled by default]23:34
bjfwhat i'd recoment you doing is build the tree without any of your changes and see if that works23:35
greearbcan you check to see if you enabled compile of overlayfs?23:35
bjfi build with the config as defined in the tree23:35
bjfdebian.master/config/config.common.ubuntu:# CONFIG_OVERLAYFS_FS is not set23:36
greearbbugger..I need that to make the live-cd image work I think23:38
bjf17be56b59c8535ab835befa9555078687305bc76 UBUNTU: [Config] Temporarily disable overlayfs23:38
bjfyup, fails to build after rebase to v3.4-rc123:39
bjfsee the comments for that commit23:39
greearbwell crap, guess I'll have to back-port my changes to the 3.2 kernel...seems the new kernel is a bit to fresh yet.23:39

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