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| === RAOF is now known as RAOF_ | ||
| === RAOF_ is now known as RAOF | ||
| ppisati | moin | 07:03 |
|---|---|---|
| * apw wonders if he can get off the updates elevator | 07:18 | |
| * ppisati didn't know we had an elevator... :) | 07:20 | |
| apw | heh ... i see the archive is suitibly slow for release +1 | 07:22 |
| === smb` is now known as smb | ||
| _ruben | dutch mirror seemed to keep just fine last night (updated my local repo at ~70Mbps) | 07:23 |
| smb | moin | 07:23 |
| dileks | apw: speaking of archiche.u.c? yes, its slow | 07:25 |
| apw | dileks, i am looking at gb.archive.u.c (a different location it seems) and that is slow also | 07:27 |
| dileks | ( I skipped de-archive to save some MB on each upgrade. dunno if ubuntu allows also archive-diff/pkgs-diff on upgrades ) | 07:28 |
| dileks | approx. 20M each time | 07:29 |
| * ppisati -> brb | 08:49 | |
| apw | ogasawara, i've made the 'kernel essential topic' thingy: https://blueprints.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+spec/topic-quantal-kernel-essential | 09:41 |
| apw | ogasawara, i have also added it to the specs spage | 09:46 |
| * ppisati -> brb (again) | 10:08 | |
| apw | smb, https://blueprints.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+spec/servercloud-q-lxc one you might want to attend | 10:30 |
| smb | apw, yeah, and probably other ones in that generic realm | 10:32 |
| apw | smb, if you see anything you think i should be on, let me know | 10:34 |
| smb | apw, will do | 10:34 |
| ppisati | smb: there's an ARM server track that you might be insterested in | 10:35 |
| smb | ppisati, maybe... (/me is looking through things) | 10:36 |
| ppisati | smb: well, i' | 10:37 |
| ppisati | ll go anyway | 10:37 |
| ppisati | http://summit.ubuntu.com/uds-q/meeting/20410/servercloud-q-arm-server/ | 10:37 |
| smb | apw, https://blueprints.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+spec/servercloud-q-userns | 10:37 |
| ppisati | all the UEFI stuff | 10:37 |
| apw | smb, https://blueprints.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+spec/servercloud-q-devicens | 10:41 |
| smb | apw, refresh :) | 10:41 |
| * ppisati -> out for lunch | 10:52 | |
| Madkiss | hi folks! | 11:30 |
| Madkiss | I just realized that linux-image-3.2.0-24.37-virtual is missing DRBD | 11:31 |
| Madkiss | or rather, drbd.ko | 11:31 |
| Madkiss | is there any particular reason for that? | 11:31 |
| smb | Madkiss, for virtual only a limited set of modules is in the kernel package. There is an extras package containing the rest | 11:41 |
| smb | linux-image-extra-virtual | 11:41 |
| ogra_ | sounds like "linux-image-very-unreal" :P | 11:42 |
| Madkiss | did that change between -23 and -24? | 11:43 |
| smb | no, that should have been that way since start of 3.2 | 11:43 |
| Madkiss | linux-image-3.2.0-23-generic did contain drbd.ko | 11:44 |
| Madkiss | errrr | 11:44 |
| Madkiss | NOW I see it | 11:44 |
| Madkiss | sorry for the noise | 11:45 |
| Madkiss | :) | 11:45 |
| smb | no worries. :) | 11:46 |
| === yofel_ is now known as yofel | ||
| _ruben | interesting .. was gonna install precise on an old PE2950 with quad core 1.6 xeon .. kernel freezes when booting the installer :/ | 12:19 |
| _ruben | last lines regard disable aspm (?) and pre-1.1 pcie devices | 12:19 |
| tgardner | _ruben, have you tried acpi=off ? | 12:21 |
| _ruben | haven't tried anything yet .. hitting google for hints .. and this channel :) | 12:22 |
| tgardner | _ruben, has it booted any prior release? | 12:22 |
| smb | cking, ^ what was the choices for aspm? | 12:22 |
| tgardner | pcie_aspm=off | 12:23 |
| cking | off, default, performance, powersave | 12:23 |
| _ruben | tgardner: this specific box has previously run various windows flavors and esxi, doesn't have linux experience yet | 12:24 |
| smb | Hm, documentation only mentions off and force | 12:24 |
| _ruben | i'm gonna try the acpi and pcie_aspm options in a bit | 12:24 |
| _ruben | (collecting as much possibilities, to save on excessive walks up and down to serverroom) | 12:25 |
| _ruben | havent figured out console redirection on these boxes yet | 12:25 |
| _ruben | bbiab | 12:26 |
| jdstrand | jsalisbury, bjf: hi! have you seen these bugs in Ubuntu on recent lucid kernels: http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=656899, https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=783823 and https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=783955. it seems like the fix for CVE-2011-4127 is what is causing it. RedHat says it is just noise and not a problem. My system seems fine otherwise | 12:38 |
| ubot2 | jdstrand: ** RESERVED ** This candidate has been reserved by an organization or individual that will use it when announcing a new security problem. When the candidate has been publicized, the details for this candidate will be provided. (http://cve.mitre.org/cgi-bin/cvename.cgi?name=CVE-2011-4127) | 12:38 |
| ubot2 | Debian bug 656899 in src:linux-2.6 "mdadm: sending ioctl 1261 to a partition warnings in kernel log with kernel 3.2" [Minor,Open] | 12:38 |
| brendand | cking - hi | 12:40 |
| cking | brendand, how can I help? | 12:41 |
| tgardner | jdstrand, I think this is a known log filler annoyance, but otherwise benign | 12:42 |
| jdstrand | tgardner: thanks-- that was the conclusion I was coming to, but wanted to be sure | 12:42 |
| * jdstrand adds something to logcheck | 12:43 | |
| brendand | cking - i have a strange situation where the same fwts command is running on clients but erroring on servers | 12:43 |
| brendand | cking - i'll pastebin it. two ticks | 12:43 |
| brendand | cking - http://paste.ubuntu.com/949688/ | 12:44 |
| brendand | cking, same command runs fine on my own system running precise | 12:44 |
| brendand | cking, it fails on all our servers | 12:45 |
| cking | brendand, I suspect it is trying to write to fwts.log but that is not writeable | 12:47 |
| cking | where is this log file, does it already exist but owned by someone like root? | 12:47 |
| brendand | cking - the file doesn't exist yet | 12:47 |
| cking | brendand, where are you running it? | 12:48 |
| brendand | cking - ah, i thought i put the path in the pastebin. i see what you mean, let me try something else | 12:49 |
| brendand | cking - ok, so that might have been a red herring. it's still failing on all our servers though. i'll do a bit more looking | 12:50 |
| _ruben | tgardner / smb: acpi=off, pcie_aspm=off/force : no go ... pci=use_crs : boots | 12:50 |
| _ruben | the latter was suggested in the error i got with the pcie_aspm options, and then to file a bug | 12:51 |
| smb | Hm, ok... IIRC that was related to some degree how to set up bridge windows (top down or bottom up). But as you said this is first trial with Linux... | 12:53 |
| _ruben | http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/949707/ | 12:53 |
| _ruben | at the end of that paste, the other attempts would be hanging | 12:54 |
| _ruben | so yes, it's related to the bridge windows | 12:54 |
| smb | Right, though probably more in the sense that the information from acpi is ok but the bios is pre 2008 | 12:55 |
| _ruben | that's very likely | 12:55 |
| _ruben | the pre-2008 part | 12:56 |
| _ruben | still looking for my update dvd to fully update it, tho given the ancient hardware, i wonder if there'd be much newer bioses avail | 12:56 |
| smb | _ruben, I would be surprised. I rather meant its like the message says. Reporting an upstream bug to add the machine data into an exception table | 12:58 |
| _ruben | wow .. 12/8/2010 | 13:00 |
| _ruben | latest bios | 13:00 |
| smb | _ruben, That is the bios installed or available? | 13:02 |
| ogasawara | apw: thanks | 13:02 |
| ppisati | my beagle is still updating... | 13:03 |
| _ruben | smb: avail and being installed now .. going from 1.2.0 to 2.7.0 .. not that that means much :) | 13:25 |
| smb | _ruben, Heh, yeah. At least for you use-case the 2010 date will give you automatically the use_crs ... | 13:26 |
| _ruben | smb: guess we'll see in a bit .. firmware updates (bios/raid/etc) tend to take a while on these dells, once it's done, i'll try to boot without special params | 13:27 |
| _ruben | smb: wheee! .. bios update fixed the boot issue :) | 13:39 |
| smb | :) sometimes they do... sometimes those create new issues... :-P | 13:40 |
| _ruben | yeah | 13:41 |
| _ruben | ugh .. this new purplish background is scary .. it's nearly the same color as ESXi's "purple screen of death" :P | 13:41 |
| * ogasawara back in 20 | 14:26 | |
| bjf | brendand: when can you get to the Oneiric cert testing? bug 985736 | 14:51 |
| ubot2 | Launchpad bug 985736 in kernel-sru-workflow "linux: 3.0.0-19.33 -proposed tracker" [Undecided,In progress] https://launchpad.net/bugs/985736 | 14:51 |
| brendand | bjf - it will definitely be done by the end of the day | 14:58 |
| bjf | brendand: thanks | 14:59 |
| brendand | bjf - sorry for the delay, we've been having some tools issues | 14:59 |
| pinqvin | hello | 14:59 |
| pinqvin | is here audio kernel koders? | 15:00 |
| pinqvin | *hackers | 15:00 |
| bjf | brendand: you should have told me you were busy testing the release. tools issues i have much less patience with. | 15:00 |
| diwic | pinqvin, maybe :-) | 15:03 |
| diwic | pinqvin, it depends on what you want ;-) | 15:03 |
| pinqvin | diwic, jeps is here new lowlatency kernel? | 15:09 |
| pinqvin | 3.2.0-23-lowlatency is my current kernel is here newer one? | 15:10 |
| diwic | pinqvin, oh, I'm not the right person to answer that. | 15:10 |
| diwic | sorry. | 15:10 |
| dileks | 3.2.0-24-* is released | 15:11 |
| pinqvin | dileks, is there lowlatensy version? | 15:20 |
| dileks | hmm, -generic(-pae) and virtual (amd64 here) | 15:21 |
| diwic | pinqvin, they are maintained by the ubuntu studio team, so they can lag behind a bit I guess. But I don't have all the details about how those things work. | 15:23 |
| ohsix | most of the patches that made the rt patch set what it is are in the kernel proper now :] | 15:23 |
| dileks | pinqvin: is that -rt patchset included? | 15:24 |
| ohsix | the stuff that splits extra drivers into top and bottom halves isn't though; would be curious to see what latencytop has to say in the same scenario where i'm ruining the normal kernel | 15:25 |
| pinqvin | dileks, yea | 15:25 |
| dileks | debian has labeled that sort of kernel with -rt | 15:26 |
| RobinJ1995 | diwic? you there? i was referred to you by ogra_ | 16:12 |
| diwic | RobinJ1995, I can take a quick question | 16:24 |
| RobinJ1995 | probably won't be quick, i'm afraid. diwic, can you help me find a temporary solution until this bug is fixed? https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/pulseaudio/+bug/984991 | 16:26 |
| ubot2 | Launchpad bug 984991 in pulseaudio "[Latitude D620, SigmaTel STAC9200, Speaker, Internal] Sound disappears" [Undecided,New] | 16:26 |
| diwic | RobinJ1995, *looking* unfortunately it does not look like there is an easy way out of it. Try the stuff here https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Audio/PositionReporting but I'm unsure if it'll help. | 16:28 |
| RobinJ1995 | wait | 16:29 |
| RobinJ1995 | i think i found what caused it! | 16:29 |
| RobinJ1995 | If I open the Sound settings panel, no sound device is selected, but the sound is working. The sound stops working from the moment I select one. That's why I can't undo it, because there's no way to "unselect" the only item in the list. | 16:30 |
| RobinJ1995 | so how do i reset the value or something? | 16:30 |
| RobinJ1995 | diwic, where's it stored? | 16:30 |
| diwic | RobinJ1995, try installing pavucontrol which offers a little more control | 16:31 |
| diwic | unfortunately I have to go now | 16:31 |
| RobinJ1995 | ok | 16:31 |
| RobinJ1995 | bye and thx | 16:31 |
| diwic | please report any additional findings to the bug report | 16:31 |
| RobinJ1995 | ok | 16:33 |
| RobinJ1995 | YAY! FIXED IT! | 16:33 |
| * ppisati -> rushes out | 16:41 | |
| smb | tgardner, https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Kernel/Reference/Orchestra | 16:51 |
| smb | The one other thing needed to make xen host be able to be managed by virt-manager (or two) | 16:52 |
| smb | on the host "apt-get install virt-host^" | 16:52 |
| smb | also on the host edit /etc/xen/xend-config.sxp | 16:52 |
| smb | (xend-unix-server yes) | 16:52 |
| smb | ^ this needs to be in there (there is a commented out version with no in it) | 16:53 |
| tgardner | smb, there is no package named virt-host | 16:53 |
| smb | tgardner, note the ^ | 16:53 |
| smb | it should be a task | 16:53 |
| smb | if I did not confise the name | 16:53 |
| tgardner | indeed. wtf is a taask ? | 16:54 |
| tgardner | task* | 16:54 |
| smb | tgardner, the things you can look at with tasksel --list | 16:54 |
| smb | like ubuntu-desktop^ | 16:54 |
| smb | (magic group of packages) | 16:54 |
| tgardner | huh. learn something new every day | 16:54 |
| smb | We often do a "apt-get install ubuntu-desktop^" while in develeopment to find out what things we missed out on | 16:56 |
| smb | tgardner, Oh and if a normal user on the host should be able to make use of virtual machines he must be in the libvirtd group | 16:59 |
| * smb thinks maybe a charm would be nice really... | 16:59 | |
| === ppetraki_ is now known as ppetraki | ||
| greearb | Hello! I'm planning to re-spin the 12.04 LTS desktop cd with a modified 3.3 kernel. | 17:16 |
| greearb | Is this the upstream 3.3 kernel: http://kernel.ubuntu.com/git?p=ubuntu/ubuntu-quantal.git;a=summary ? | 17:16 |
| tgardner | greearb, v3.4-rc4 | 17:18 |
| dileks | check Makefile :-) | 17:18 |
| greearb | ok, is there an upstream 3.3 with ubuntu patches applied? | 17:19 |
| greearb | for that matter, would a stock 3.3 kernel work on the live-cd? | 17:20 |
| dileks | http://kernel.ubuntu.com/~kernel-ppa/mainline/ | 17:22 |
| greearb | happen to know where the git trees for that are? I need to add my hacks on top of 3.3.3 | 17:24 |
| dileks | greearb: unfortunately, no | 17:32 |
| greearb | bummer... Think maybe the v3.4-rc4 tree has some tags that would be something similar to 3.3 + ubuntu patches..or maybe it is rebased on top of the latest upstream when moving to 3.4-rcX? | 17:35 |
| greearb | guess I could run -rc4, but that is liable to be painful :P | 17:35 |
| dileks | greearb: want to test some wireless stuff? | 17:40 |
| greearb | yeah, and the rest of my patch set | 17:40 |
| greearb | some of which is too crufty to ever make it upstream :) | 17:40 |
| dileks | greearb: I use a -generic kernel-config and build upstream GIT with make deb-pkg | 17:45 |
| greearb | and that is enough to boot a live-cd? | 17:46 |
| greearb | I was afraid there might be some special patches to make that work that are not upstream... | 17:46 |
| dileks | or pull in some other GIT like net.git|wireless.git|iwlwifi.git#wireless | 17:46 |
| dileks | dont think so | 17:47 |
| === tgardner is now known as tgardner-lunch | ||
| dileks | IIRC you need aufs or overlayfs support | 17:47 |
| greearb | right, that's what I was thinking | 17:47 |
| dileks | cant say which one is used | 17:47 |
| greearb | going to poke around the 3.4-rcx tree and see if I can find some branch that does what I want | 17:48 |
| dileks | dba with debian-live uses aufs, but was highly interested to see overlayfs in upstream | 17:48 |
| dileks | due to viro union-mounts is favourized | 17:49 |
| dileks | dunno status | 17:49 |
| dileks | we will see it working with gnu/hurd together | 17:50 |
| greearb | I have other battles to fight, so not going to tangle with that..would rather use the 3.4-rc4 or backport to 3.2 | 17:50 |
| dileks | http://git.kernel.org/?p=linux/kernel/git/mszeredi/vfs.git;a=shortlog;h=refs/heads/overlayfs.v12 | 17:51 |
| dileks | http://kernel.ubuntu.com/git?p=ubuntu/ubuntu-quantal.git;a=shortlog;h=refs/heads/master-next | 17:53 |
| dileks | greearb: has fs/overlayfs in its tree | 17:53 |
| greearb | nod | 17:53 |
| dileks | shall include that ubuntu overlayfs support | 17:56 |
| njin | hello can someone translate this : probe of LNXSLPBN | 17:57 |
| greearb | er, so not there yet? | 17:57 |
| dileks | http://kernel.ubuntu.com/git?p=ubuntu/ubuntu-quantal.git;a=commitdiff;h=2ce2794fc9d5460e13892937fd77a4a5aa785937 | 17:57 |
| * ogasawara lunch | 17:57 | |
| dileks | greearb: ^^ | 17:57 |
| njin | ah, sleep button | 17:57 |
| dileks | ogasawara: which version of overlayfs is this in 3.4-rc4? | 17:57 |
| * cking -> EOD | 17:59 | |
| dileks | greearb: http://paste.ubuntu.com/950413/ | 18:06 |
| greearb | thanks | 18:08 |
| dileks | no problem | 18:08 |
| greearb | that is your script to build an upstream kernel, w/out the overlay stuff applied? | 18:08 |
| dileks | you can use it for any kernel shipping debbuild script | 18:09 |
| dileks | yes, I use it to build out of upstream GIT | 18:10 |
| dileks | local GIT (branches)* | 18:10 |
| dileks | http://nopaste.snit.ch/135876 | 18:12 |
| dileks | master is for me v3.4-rc4 tag | 18:12 |
| greearb | I wonder if checking out commit 982a02179e5186687124ff2dada922961f52c381 in ubuntu-quantal would do the trick.. | 18:13 |
| dileks | dunno | 18:13 |
| dileks | greearb: if you want to fix your $distribution when building with deb-pkg | 18:14 |
| dileks | http://marc.info/?l=linux-kbuild&m=133521952404693&w=2 | 18:14 |
| dileks | http://kernel.ubuntu.com/git?p=ubuntu/ubuntu-quantal.git;a=history;f=fs/overlayfs;hb=refs/heads/master-next | 18:16 |
| === tgardner-lunch is now known as tgardner | ||
| dileks | greearb: http://nopaste.snit.ch/135883 | 18:23 |
| greearb | I'm having no luck trying to use a previous commit in the quantal git tree...seems like I'm confused about how git branches work or something....still poking around. | 18:24 |
| dileks | greearb: yeah, its missing this | 18:34 |
| dileks | http://nopaste.snit.ch/135884 | 18:34 |
| dileks | in the tarball | 18:35 |
| greearb | I'm just going to try the 3.4-rc4 kernel. I have a bit of time before release, so maybe it will be stable enough. Lot more fun to port forward than backwards :P | 18:37 |
| dileks | greearb: which distro? | 18:38 |
| greearb | I'm going to apply my patches on top of ubuntu-quantel git tree (master-next branch) | 18:38 |
| greearb | and see what happens | 18:39 |
| dileks | greearb: have fun! | 18:40 |
| greearb | only 102 patches, how hard could it be :) | 18:40 |
| * tgardner -> EOD | 19:18 | |
| dileks | greearb: is overlayfs building for you? | 19:22 |
| greearb | still working on porting the patches forward | 20:18 |
| dileks | greearb: before you try with overlayfs <http://nopaste.snit.ch/135908> | 21:10 |
| greearb | I've got the patches ported..having to apt-get 500MB of latex crap to build kernel docs and such it seems... | 21:11 |
| dileks | greearb: how did you build? with make deb-pkg you do not need to do build-dep before. | 21:14 |
| dileks | PREREQS: Install build-essential, fakeroot and dpkg-dev packages (optional: git)! | 21:15 |
| dileks | dunno if ubuntu has the parallel-make patch for docs | 21:15 |
| Nafallo | dileks: you got the source... you can find out :-) | 21:16 |
| dileks | no, I have no ubuntu-kernel source installed yet | 21:16 |
| dileks | OK, I can look into your GIT repo (debian/patches/...) | 21:17 |
| greearb | dileks: Following this: http://blog.avirtualhome.com/compile-linux-kernel-3-2-for-ubuntu-11-10/ | 21:17 |
| greearb | roughtly | 21:17 |
| greearb | roughly | 21:17 |
| dileks | I know debians kernel build-system quite well as I modded to build daily linux-next kernels | 21:20 |
| dileks | but with deb-pkg, hmm, its faster | 21:20 |
| Nafallo | depends where you compile it :-) | 21:22 |
| dileks | that guy from lll-project reported 2mins with full config | 21:26 |
| Nafallo | he's faster than my netbook then :-P | 21:27 |
| dileks | if you build the whole day llvm/clang | 21:27 |
| dileks | anyway, it was nice to see a linux-kernel compiled with clang booting on i396 | 21:28 |
| dileks | i386* | 21:28 |
| dileks | Nafallo: https://gist.github.com/929187 | 21:28 |
| Nafallo | no thanks. I'm not sober enough to control a vimperator :-) | 21:29 |
| dileks | Nafallo: what do you mean by "sober ... vimperator" ? | 21:31 |
| Nafallo | nvm | 21:31 |
| Nafallo | I'm not actually using vimperator anyway... | 21:31 |
| greearb | looks like the ubuntu-quantel top-of-tree blows up in overlayfs code and fails to compile :( | 23:30 |
| bjf | greerb, i built the master-next branch just a few hrs ago, let me build the master branch | 23:31 |
| greearb | I'm using master-next, I think | 23:32 |
| greearb | based on top of this: 7fc527978cd4509e357c780561536335c6498bca | 23:32 |
| bjf | yup, same here | 23:33 |
| bjf | did you build binary-generic ? | 23:33 |
| greearb | making my own derivative..but didn't change much | 23:33 |
| greearb | skipabi=true skipmodule=true fakeroot debian/rules binary-ct | 23:34 |
| bjf | sounds like you changed just enough :-) | 23:34 |
| greearb | based the config off of whatever ships with 12.04 | 23:34 |
| greearb | LD arch/x86/built-in.o | 23:34 |
| greearb | CC [M] fs/overlayfs/super.o | 23:34 |
| greearb | /home/greearb/ubuntu-quantal/fs/overlayfs/super.c: In function ‘ovl_do_lookup’: | 23:34 |
| greearb | /home/greearb/ubuntu-quantal/fs/overlayfs/super.c:301:4: error: implicit declaration of function ‘prepare_creds’ [-Werror=implicit-function-declaration] | 23:34 |
| greearb | /home/greearb/ubuntu-quantal/fs/overlayfs/super.c:301:18: warning: assignment makes pointer from integer without a cast [enabled by default] | 23:34 |
| greearb | etc | 23:34 |
| bjf | what i'd recoment you doing is build the tree without any of your changes and see if that works | 23:35 |
| greearb | can you check to see if you enabled compile of overlayfs? | 23:35 |
| bjf | i build with the config as defined in the tree | 23:35 |
| bjf | debian.master/config/config.common.ubuntu:# CONFIG_OVERLAYFS_FS is not set | 23:36 |
| greearb | ./debian.master/config/i386/config.flavour.ct:CONFIG_OVERLAYFS_FS=m | 23:38 |
| greearb | bugger..I need that to make the live-cd image work I think | 23:38 |
| bjf | 17be56b59c8535ab835befa9555078687305bc76 UBUNTU: [Config] Temporarily disable overlayfs | 23:38 |
| bjf | yup, fails to build after rebase to v3.4-rc1 | 23:39 |
| bjf | see the comments for that commit | 23:39 |
| greearb | well crap, guess I'll have to back-port my changes to the 3.2 kernel...seems the new kernel is a bit to fresh yet. | 23:39 |
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