ajmitch | nixternal: I should know not to go to lunch when you've got comments like that :) | 00:22 |
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nixternal | muhahaha | 00:27 |
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dholbach | good morning | 06:46 |
geser | good morning | 06:49 |
dholbach | hi geser | 06:49 |
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bullgard4 | [Ubuntu 11.10] What does mean the string »fakesync« in the installed release »1.12.1-3.1fakesync1« of the package mpg123? | 09:53 |
micahg | bullgard4: original tarball is different between Ubuntu and Debian | 09:55 |
Rhonda | micahg: duh. shouldn't that be represented in the upstream version somehow? | 10:03 |
micahg | Rhonda: no, same upstream version | 10:03 |
Rhonda | so that the orig tarball also has a different filename? | 10:03 |
Laney | somehow the same upstream version got uploaded to ubuntu with a different tarball | 10:04 |
Rhonda | Right, but 1.12.1fakesync1-3.1 would work? | 10:04 |
micahg | well, unless it's a generated tarball, this really shouldn't happen (although it happened with blueman, I used the upstream tarball, not sure what the DM did) | 10:04 |
micahg | Rhonda: that would require a reupload of the tarball | 10:04 |
micahg | the idea is that we don't have a diff, but we can't sync | 10:05 |
bullgard4 | micahg: Thank you very much for your ample explanation and help. | 10:16 |
micahg | bullgard4: IIRC, I did that fakesync as well :) | 10:22 |
Laney | tumbleweed: could you start generating the quantal rdepends data? | 11:20 |
tumbleweed | hrm, is that not automatic | 11:20 |
Laney | dunno, but http://qa.ubuntuwire.org/rdepends/v1/quantal/all/ghc | 11:21 |
tumbleweed | aah, it uses distro-info :) | 11:21 |
Laney | if it comes from distr.. | 11:21 |
Laney | yes | 11:21 |
Laney | :P | 11:21 |
* tumbleweed git pulls | 11:22 | |
* ajmitch should probably add quantal to the rcbugs thing as well | 11:26 | |
tumbleweed | so when do we upgrade syklone to precise? :) | 11:26 |
tumbleweed | Laney: running now | 11:26 |
Laney | ta very much | 11:26 |
ajmitch | tumbleweed: one day... | 11:26 |
Laney | do it now. dare you. | 11:27 |
ajmitch | Laney: sure, you don't need it working do you? | 11:33 |
Laney | you're saying that precise wouldn't work? | 11:35 |
Laney | :O | 11:35 |
ajmitch | I'm sure it'd be perfect in every way | 11:36 |
ajmitch | except that it's near midnight here & I'd probably end up deleting critical files :) | 11:36 |
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tumbleweed | Laney: and it aborted because of the archive.ubuntu.cmo load :) | 12:00 |
Laney | heh | 12:00 |
geser | will quantal sync from testing or unstable? | 12:11 |
directhex | EXPERIMENTAL ;o | 12:13 |
micahg | geser: TBD apparently :) | 12:13 |
tumbleweed | currently testing | 12:14 |
sagaci | that's interesting | 12:16 |
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Laney | does anyone know what "attend this meeting" on summit does? | 12:41 |
* Laney is clicking that rather than subscribing to blueprints, but will it do what I wat? | 12:45 | |
Laney | want | 12:45 |
tumbleweed | oh, there's a "Propose a meeting" button | 12:46 |
tumbleweed | Laney: presumably that will mean you don't get blueprint e-mail | 12:47 |
sagaci | looks like you need to subscribe to the blueprint separately | 12:47 |
Laney | will it have the same scheduling effect? | 12:47 |
Laney | there's nothing corresponding to participation essential | 12:47 |
Laney | I like not having to subscribe to blueprints :-) | 12:47 |
Laney | hah, searching for "ubuntu summit developers" doesn't work so well | 12:55 |
Laney | (a permutation of the words is something else ...) | 12:56 |
bullgard4 | micahg: :-) | 13:03 |
aboudreault | hi. if I have 2 packages in my source package: libX and X-bin. How can I tell that X-bin need the shared library or libX ? | 13:53 |
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geser | aboudreault: how does your Depends: line for X-bin in debian/control look like? | 13:54 |
aboudreault | Depends: ${python:Depends}, ${shlibs:Depends}, ${misc:Depends} | 13:55 |
geser | looks good | 13:56 |
aboudreault | checking what debuild does.... looks like I build ALL, then install. so wondering how it can find my libmapserver if it is not installed | 13:56 |
aboudreault | I only have libtool files at this point. (in .libs) | 13:56 |
geser | can you upload/pastebin the build log somewhere? | 13:59 |
Rhonda | hmmmm | 13:59 |
Rhonda | debuild --no-lintian -sa -v'1:1.10.1-1~lucid1' | 13:59 |
Rhonda | Do I need the -v switch for backports uploads? | 13:59 |
Rhonda | … for ubuntu backports uploads. *peeks at Laney* | 14:00 |
Laney | I suppose it would be nice | 14:01 |
Laney | but that version is already in lucid-backports? | 14:01 |
aboudreault | geser, 2 mins. | 14:01 |
aboudreault | geser, http://paste.pocoo.org/show/587955/ | 14:11 |
Rhonda | Laney: sure that version is in, that's the whole point of the -v switch. ;) | 14:15 |
Rhonda | Laney: To use the latest version from the archive, and thus include all changelog entries in the changesfile _since_ | 14:15 |
Rhonda | ah, quantal created | 14:16 |
Laney | Rhonda: oh, I see what you're proposing | 14:16 |
Laney | I was confused because I did'nt see a new request | 14:16 |
Laney | yes, I suggest you use that. | 14:16 |
Rhonda | Huhm | 14:16 |
Rhonda | no maverick anymore | 14:16 |
Laney | indeed | 14:16 |
Rhonda | So I can dump the maverick-backports branch :) | 14:17 |
* Laney turns off maverick-backports | 14:17 | |
* Laney wonders how to do that | 14:18 | |
Rhonda | lol :) | 14:18 |
geser | aboudreault: I don't know what's wrong there but it doesn't look like a packaging error yet, as the build doesn't finish. It looks like the perl and python bindings assume that the library got installed by the time they get build | 14:37 |
aboudreault | well, the error is: /usr/bin/ld: cannot find -lmapserver | 14:43 |
aboudreault | mapserver is the library I built earlier in the build log | 14:43 |
aboudreault | the ld should only be done at install? | 14:44 |
tumbleweed | aboudreault: -L. to help it find it? | 14:44 |
tumbleweed | (or whatever the right path is) | 14:45 |
aboudreault | tumbleweed, what wasmy initial question, what's the proper way to do that? specifying an extra -L./libs doesn't sound right to me | 14:45 |
aboudreault | s/what/that | 14:45 |
tumbleweed | why doesn't that sound right? | 14:46 |
tumbleweed | sure, your build system should do it for you, but that's what you want it to do | 14:46 |
aboudreault | checking to fix my build system | 14:53 |
Rhonda | Laney, bug #989801 :) | 14:58 |
ubottu | Launchpad bug 989801 in Oneiric Backports "please backport wesnoth-1.10 from precise" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/989801 | 14:58 |
Rhonda | … and speaking about, shouldn't #932011 be switched to fix released? | 14:59 |
Rhonda | Does this need to be done manually? | 14:59 |
* Rhonda sets them to Fix Released, if that's wrong someone is invited to slap me on the fingers. :) | 15:00 | |
pabelanger | I'm pretty surprised about the default file permissions for most openstack components (nova, glance, keystone). Out of the box we are shipping /etc/{nova, glance, keystone] with 0700. Even their group permission cannot read the folders | 15:01 |
pabelanger | got patches up in launchpad hower | 15:01 |
pabelanger | however* | 15:01 |
trijntje | Hi all, can anybody tell me who is responsible for hosting the tracker for ubuntu torrents? | 15:21 |
* cjwatson answers trijntje in #ubuntu-devel. (One channel at a time, please.) | 15:31 | |
Laney | Rhonda: yes and yes | 16:16 |
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Laney | Rhonda: have you test built/installed/upgraded? | 16:46 |
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Rhonda | Laney: Not yet, just wanted to get it started :) | 18:36 |
Rhonda | Laney: You know I am that kind of optimist that always believes that there are others out there who would help out :) | 18:36 |
aboudreault | by default, where dh_install install things? | 19:00 |
aboudreault | ah no... it just put things into deb file. | 19:02 |
jtaylor | by default dh_install does nothing, only when you add .install files or call it when arguments something is done | 19:05 |
spartan-11510 | Hi everybody, i need some help to fix a package. i find a translation error and i patch them, but i can't execute "bzr bd -- -S -us -uc" because he says me that http://paste.ubuntu.com/950554/ | 19:05 |
jtaylor | spartan-11510: run dpkg-source --commit and fill out the forms | 19:06 |
spartan-11510 | thank you but i don't understand all of forms like "Origin: <vendor|upstream|other>" package are hello in precise | 19:08 |
jtaylor | spartan-11510: you don't need to fill out everything, just delete what you think is unimportant | 19:09 |
jtaylor | spartan-11510: see http://dep.debian.net/deps/dep3/ what the tags mean | 19:09 |
jtaylor | if you add yourself in the author tag, origin is not required | 19:09 |
spartan-11510 | thank you really much, it's very difficult to begin in bug fixing | 19:10 |
spartan-11510 | I've fill the forms and i retry "bzr bd -- -S -us -uc" but it doesn't work http://paste.ubuntu.com/950596/ | 19:20 |
jtaylor | spartan-11510: you have to add the patch in debian/patches to bzr and commit it | 19:21 |
jtaylor | bzr add file; bzr commit | 19:22 |
Laney | Rhonda: you never know. Upload to a PPA or something and you could be surprised. :-) | 19:42 |
spartan-11510 | i've patch the package, now i try to test it but it doesn't work. This line it's correct? "pbuilder-dist precise build ../hello_2.7-3ubuntu1.dsc" | 19:49 |
jtaylor | whats the error? | 19:51 |
spartan-11510 | W: /home/spartan-117/.pbuilderrc does not exist | 19:52 |
spartan-11510 | E: File /home/spartan-117/pbuilder/precise-base.tgz does not exist | 19:52 |
jtaylor | you have to create a pbuiler base first | 19:53 |
jtaylor | pbuilder-dist precise <arch> create | 19:53 |
jtaylor | where <arch> is amd64 or i386 depending on what your system is | 19:53 |
spartan-11510 | i've created but i forgot the precise | 19:53 |
jtaylor | is reverse-depends broken in precise? | 20:26 |
jtaylor | I get unknown release | 20:26 |
tumbleweed | jtaylor: DB update hasn't managed to run yet. archive.ubuntu.com is too flaky | 20:28 |
spartan-11510 | jtaylor: when i commit my patch with bzr, i can build my package? | 20:31 |
jtaylor | spartan-11510: probably yes | 20:31 |
spartan-11510 | jtaylor: i don't understand i've build my package, and when i install it, the package doesn't change the bug still here, but the file has been modified | 20:32 |
micahg | tumbleweed: can you mirror of of something else? | 20:33 |
micahg | *off | 20:33 |
tumbleweed | micahg: I tried that earlier and it still died. Let me have another poke at it... | 20:34 |
tumbleweed | unfortunately it takes a very long time to run | 20:35 |
Laney | everyone loves the s3 mirrors | 20:35 |
Laney | apparently | 20:35 |
tumbleweed | yeah, tried those | 20:35 |
tumbleweed | got a 403 | 20:35 |
Laney | the horror | 20:36 |
tumbleweed | indeed | 20:36 |
tumbleweed | $ HEAD http://eu-west-1.ec2.archive.ubuntu.com.s3.amazonaws.com/ubuntu/dists/quantal/Release | 20:37 |
tumbleweed | 403 Forbidden | 20:37 |
Laney | maybe they weren't meant to be used | 20:38 |
Laney | externally to AWS I mean | 20:38 |
tumbleweed | it's only quantal that's 403ing | 20:38 |
Laney | oh | 20:38 |
Laney | general fail then | 20:39 |
tumbleweed | i.e. near the end of the run :( | 20:39 |
spartan-11510 | jtaylor: I need to re-package for build package with my patch? | 20:44 |
jtaylor | spartan-11510: I don't know much about translations, maybe you patched the wrong file? | 20:44 |
spartan-11510 | jtaylor: i don't understand, i continue to try fixing this error, thnak you really much i learned important things | 20:53 |
tumbleweed | deb822.py: WARNING: cannot parse package relationship "gettext:any", returning it raw | 21:15 |
tumbleweed | hrm, didn't know that was allowed in the archive, yet | 21:15 |
micahg | only for build dependencies IIRC | 21:15 |
tumbleweed | yeah, that was B-Ds | 21:16 |
* tumbleweed adds support for that | 21:16 | |
micahg | quantal should start allowing those in binary deps since dpkg is guaranteed to be new enough | 21:17 |
jtaylor | how is this incompatibility between .6.1 and .6.2 going to be handled? | 21:18 |
jtaylor | that one which happened in the unstable upload | 21:18 |
jtaylor | dpkg 1.16.1 -> 1.16.2 | 21:21 |
tumbleweed | I assume you read buxy's follow-up on that? | 21:21 |
micahg | jtaylor: infinity volunteered for that I think | 21:21 |
jtaylor | some perl script to update it you mean? | 21:21 |
micahg | well, something to not break our systems on upgrade :) | 21:22 |
tumbleweed | micahg: great, can't find any reference to :any in debian-policy / multiarch spec | 21:29 |
micahg | tumbleweed: well, I shouldn't say for sure, it was implied :) | 21:29 |
tumbleweed | it's in ubuntu's multiarchhowto wiki page, but IIRC that predates the debian multiarch wiki page | 21:29 |
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tumbleweed | micahg: reverse-deps DB has generated | 23:42 |
micahg | tumbleweed: cool, thanks | 23:42 |
tumbleweed | just in time for it's next cronjob :) | 23:42 |
tumbleweed | its | 23:42 |
tumbleweed | I'm ignoring :any for now, but submitted a ptach to python-debian | 23:43 |
tumbleweed | (ignoring as in those build-deps will be entirely ignored) | 23:43 |
micahg | tumbleweed: couldn't you just treat it as s/:any//? | 23:44 |
tumbleweed | probably by doing a regex replacement like that, yes | 23:44 |
tumbleweed | otherwise, I need my fixed python debian that won't fail trying to parse them | 23:45 |
micahg | that's the effect on regular build deps, it was only changed to support cross-building | 23:45 |
* tumbleweed quickly does that in time for the next generation run | 23:45 | |
tumbleweed | urgh, no, it's not going to be easy | 23:47 |
* tumbleweed leaves it for now | 23:47 | |
tumbleweed | -> bed | 23:48 |
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