[01:00] <jyo_> I'll be a bit late but I'll see you guys tonight at the thing.
[01:27] <philipballew> kdub, the train to there is a joke. Its only possible if you take the train along the cost, but thats like 12 hours.
[01:30] <Faqtotum> i went to thirstybear, no one was there, and they have no reservation
[01:32] <Faqtotum> since no one seems to be on now, i'll try phoning grantbow
[01:47] <Faqtotum> ok, found pleia2 in here
[02:00] <Faqtotum> hi
[02:02] <akk> Darn, the alternate installer doesn't work when dd-ed onto a USB stick.
[02:05] <pleia2> ive never had good luck w/ alt and usb sticks
[02:55] <Faqtotum> 12 people here now
[02:56] <Faqtotum> 5 standing, 7 sitting
[03:24] <akk> Weird -- in the pangolin alt installer, it gives you a choice to enable partners and extras repos
[03:24] <akk> but no choice to enable regular main ubuntu software (from anything but security.ubuntu.com)
[03:24] <Faqtotum> lol
[03:34]  * Darkwing peers in
[03:36] <Darkwing> Anyone have an expresscard ieee that they would be willing to part with at a good price or, trade for a few 2.5" Laptop drives including a 32GB SSD?
[04:06] <Darkwing> Ubuntu 12.10 Quantal Quetzal.
[04:08] <Faqtotum> quantal is a word?
[04:09] <Darkwing> http://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/quantal
[04:47] <Faqtotum> meh
[05:43] <bkerensa> pleia2: How would you like 40 11.04 CD's and maybe 20-30 11.10's?
[05:43] <bkerensa> :D
[05:44] <bkerensa> Since we don't get CD's I am recycling the covers from old versions I have and repurposing :D
[06:00] <philipballew_> my schools dhcp servers seem to cut me off every so often and cant reconnect easily.
[06:07] <philipballew_> would that be a reason why my internet connection cuts off every hour or so
[06:59] <bkerensa> uhh I wrote a Juju charm in 22 minutes :P
[07:27]  * MarkDude saw a Motley crue cover band tonight, all women - thye are called Cruella
[07:28] <DonkeyHotei> hide the dalmatians
[07:36] <DonkeyHotei> to register for uds, do i put "non-sponsored" for "capacity" or what?
[07:39] <bkerensa> DonkeyHotei: yeah I think so
[07:39] <DonkeyHotei> "group/company representing" ?
[07:40] <DonkeyHotei> what there?
[07:41] <DonkeyHotei> bkerensa: ^
[07:41] <bkerensa> Mmm
[07:41] <bkerensa> You are representing Ubuntu
[07:41] <bkerensa> unless you are attending for some other reason
[07:41] <bkerensa> ;p
[07:42] <bkerensa> DonkeyHotei: Do you contribute to any specific area of the community?
[07:42] <DonkeyHotei> odd that that's still "non-sponsored"
[07:42] <DonkeyHotei> and what do i put for travel info? it's non-optional
[07:49] <MarkDude> DonkeyHotei, you represent levity
[07:49] <MarkDude> Put today as arrival day
[07:49] <MarkDude> and put some day in the future as leaving, maybe a day after the Mayan calendar ends
[07:49] <DonkeyHotei> i put the 7th
[07:50]  * MarkDude tried to put both local AND remote attending
[07:50] <MarkDude> Would not let me
[07:50] <DonkeyHotei> you're local
[07:53]  * MarkDude reserves the right to act remote while there
[07:58] <dax> So I just found out I'm going to be in the Bay Area the 3rd to the 8th.
[08:05] <philipballew> late night for people talking here
[09:54]  * bkerensa prints tickets
[15:25] <DonkeyHotei> i made a typo untarring a tarball on oneiric:
[15:26] <DonkeyHotei> No command 'tax' found, did you mean:
[15:26] <DonkeyHotei>  Command 'ttx' from package 'fonttools' (universe)
[15:26] <DonkeyHotei>  Command 'fax' from package 'efax' (universe)
[15:26] <DonkeyHotei>  Command 'tex' from package 'texlive-binaries' (main)
[15:26] <DonkeyHotei>  Command 'tx' from package 'transifex-client' (universe)
[15:26] <DonkeyHotei>  Command 'vax' from package 'simh' (universe)
[15:26] <DonkeyHotei>  Command 'tar' from package 'tar' (main)
[15:26] <DonkeyHotei>  Command 'tac' from package 'coreutils' (main)
[15:26] <DonkeyHotei>  Command 'rax' from package 'radare-common' (universe)
[15:26] <DonkeyHotei>  Command 'pax' from package 'pax' (main)
[15:26] <DonkeyHotei>  Command 'stax' from package 'stax' (universe)
[15:26] <DonkeyHotei> tax: command not found
[15:52] <pleia2> bkerensa: oh no, I make sure I don't have left overs of CDs from old releases at the end of a cycle, I have no space for them :)
[16:10] <DonkeyHotei> dax: someone mentioned last night that you're at sac state now, so why didn't i see you at the ubuntu hour that philipballew used to run?
[16:48] <philipballew_> Whats a good method for making a direct image of my laptop them putting that image on all my other omputers?
[16:49] <philipballew_> is there a simple way to do it?
[16:49] <philipballew_> i thought about clonezilla, but was unsure if that the best?
[16:49] <akk> cp -ax will usually work: the first parts of http://shallowsky.com/blog/linux/install/upgrading-without-risk.html
[16:50] <akk> It does require some manual steps. If you can access your root filesystem while it's unmounted (while you're not actually running), that's safer.
[16:52] <philipballew_> that seems script-able
[16:52] <philipballew_> maybe
[16:53]  * philipballew_ thanks akk 
[16:54] <akk> Once you have one copy that's not mounted and that uses the right root device, like /dev/sda2 or whatever, doing more copies is super easy.
[16:54] <philipballew_> I was thinking of throwing the image onto my server and try to send it from there maybe. Not sure.
[16:55] <akk> You could have a script to fix things like the hostname, and disk UUIDs if you prefer to use those instead of /dev/sdNN
[16:55] <philipballew_> So many ideas
[16:56] <akk> I'm in the process of making a bunch of little pangolins on USB sticks that I can use for a class ... will probably use cp -ax or rsync -a for them once I get one up and working.
[16:57] <philipballew_> I was thinking of giving the images I make to my work, There trying to use ubuntu to send to people in South Africa
[16:57] <philipballew_> what class are you taking?
[16:59] <DonkeyHotei> sending ubuntu to south africa, how ironic...
[17:03] <philipballew_> DonkeyHotei, thats what I thought... but hey, never hurts
[17:04] <akk> philipballew_: Teaching an arduino class. The arduino software turns out to be difficult to install on windows, so I'm hoping I can boot their lab machines into ubuntu.
[17:04] <DonkeyHotei> there used to be a ppa for it
[17:04] <DonkeyHotei> it went unmaintained
[17:05] <akk> For arduino? I think there's a version in the repos, but it's old.
[17:05] <akk> But it's easy to run the tarball on ubuntu. Not so easy on windows.
[17:05] <philipballew_> I need to buy a new arduino. I was running a picaxe but that was not meeting my needs
[17:06] <DonkeyHotei> i know it's easy to run the tarball, but a maintained ppa for auto updates was nice
[17:12] <philipballew_> ppa's are nice untill you either want to remove them or update ubuntu and have the system remove the ppa and you have to re enable it.
[17:13] <DonkeyHotei> worth it
[17:15] <akk> Ugh, kernel panic trying to boot off the usb stick.
[17:22] <philipballew_> have you tried turning it on off and on again?
[17:30] <akk> yeah
[17:30] <akk> Might be an initrd problem -- the initrd was generated on a different machine from the target machine.
[17:31] <akk> I'm not sure how to get a generic initrd that works everywhere ... I tried the one I made on this machine, where I said yes, include all drivers not just from this machine.
[17:43] <akk> Hmm, maybe this usb stick is bad.
[17:53] <akk> When I try to log in to ubuntu forums using my launchpad id, I get a firefox warning about a suspicious cross-site scripting attempt.
[17:54] <akk> How do I whitelist it? I tried going to Options and adding ^https://login.launchpad.net/+openid (the url that showed up in the console) but that didn't make it happy.
[18:00] <akk> Nobody uses ubuntu forums with firefox, I guess? Or you have to use a separate login for forums, can't use launchpad?
[18:06] <philipballew_> akk, I dont think uf is hooked up with the single sigh on yet. Maybe I am wrong, but I think thats a feature coming soon.
[18:07] <akk> If so, they should get rid of the link that says "Sign in using your Launchpad ID".
[18:07] <akk> In the upper right just under the search box.
[18:17] <philipballew_> akk, I think there currently or soon will redoo the entire interface to look more like ubuntu 10.04 plus and not the brown theme before 10.04. or at least that what i herd. Have you tried askubuntu? I hear its better these days.
[18:20] <philipballew_> http://www.nytimes.com/2012/04/27/nyregion/at-92-movie-bootlegger-is-soldiers-hero.html?_r=2
[18:20] <philipballew_> Old people are awesome!
[18:28] <philipballew_> pleia2, I want to let you know I was going to do post meeting logs tonight/early morning stuurday. so dont think I forgot
[18:28] <philipballew_> this is a very hard week so I have not been able to get to it. I apologize
[18:42] <bkerensa> pleia2: Was the California release party fun? Lots of people?
[18:42] <bkerensa> I saw a Pangolin partying
[18:42] <DonkeyHotei> we had a plastic pangolin
[18:43] <DonkeyHotei> 15-ish people, total
[18:44] <philipballew_> I partied alone in my room last night. Should I have put that as a loco event/
[18:45] <DonkeyHotei> muy loco
[18:50] <pleia2> philipballew_: no problem :) thanks for doing this
[18:50] <pleia2> bkerensa: was fun, I put photos up here: http://www.flickr.com/photos/pleia2/sets/72157629548073368/
[18:51] <pleia2> as DonkeyHotei said the peak was about 15 people, but counting folks who just dropped in for a few minutes I'd say it ended up being around 20 in all
[18:51] <pleia2> we were there for 3 hours, so people sort of came and went
[18:51] <bkerensa> :D
[18:52] <DonkeyHotei> 12 people were there pretty much the whole time
[18:52] <bkerensa> cool we are anticipating about 55 attendees (We have 33 Yes + 9 Maybe) although we have people who refuse to RSVP for all events for "anonymity" purposes I guess and then we have also had some who just ran into LTP issues
[18:53]  * bkerensa hopes we have enough beer/soda/pizza
[18:54] <DonkeyHotei> glad i didn't end up in any of the pics
[18:57] <bkerensa> what are those potatoes ?
[18:57] <DonkeyHotei> yep
[18:58] <DonkeyHotei> they were good, too
[18:58] <DonkeyHotei> but the empanadas were even better
[18:58] <bkerensa> ahh
[18:59]  * bkerensa desires Taqueria Cancun Super Burritos so bad
[18:59] <DonkeyHotei> there was a plate of three empanadas. i had one, wiretapp1d had another, and the third stayed on the plate even when they took the plate away
[18:59] <bkerensa> =o
[19:02] <philipballew_> bkerensa, yeah. for the sd ubuntu hours only i rsvp, but we have 8 people often
[19:03] <philipballew_> they just dont care to rsvp
[19:03]  * kdub included last time :-/
[19:03] <bkerensa> philipballew: our salem ubuntu hours have on average 3-4 but its not really a tech city :)
[19:03] <bkerensa> Our last Portland Ubuntu Hour had 25
[19:03] <bkerensa> :D
[19:04] <bkerensa> and were going to start shifting to two a month one on the East Side and one on the West Side
[19:07] <philipballew_> bkerensa, your really organized
[19:07] <bkerensa> philipballew: yeah kind of but this is my last cycle involved in leading our LoCo I think :)
[19:08]  * bkerensa had planned to step down before the end of the cycle but things didn't work out
[19:09] <philipballew_> who takes over?
[19:11] <bkerensa> philipballew: That is a good question.... I'm hoping Nathan Williams will take the role and if he needs help I can asst him but if not there are other people I am confident can do it
[19:11]  * bkerensa wont step down until all that is lined up
[19:12] <philipballew_> you need to find a jedi apprentice
[19:12] <bkerensa> But in Q I am going to be doing a intense amount of doc work and after Q cycle I plan to apply to be a MOTU
[19:17] <philipballew_> motu sounds fun
[21:51] <Julius_> Hi all
[21:52] <Julius_> anyone willing to help a fresh ubuntu noob with a dual display problem ?
[21:55] <Julius__> Hi again....anyone willing to solve a noob's problem  here.....concerning dual screen
[21:56] <Julius__> anyone live here....maybe a better question?
[21:57] <pleia2> Julius__: I think a of us are at work :) but you can ask your question, if folks are lurking they might know
[21:57] <Julius__> thanx for responding
[21:58] <pleia2> (I have only ever had one monitor, so I'm afraid I can't help)
[21:59] <Julius__> Ok thank you...........Iḿ in Holland country is asleep...will check the UK...1 hour difference
[21:59] <pleia2> maybe try #ubuntu?
[22:00] <Julius__> tried it all............works like a charm under Windows, must be something small....but Iḿ all new in Ubuntu
[22:00] <Julius__> Looks good but it's not the same
[22:01] <Julius__> have a great day
[23:59] <dragon> I don't think they understood that you were referring to the #ubuntu IRC channel.