| nixternal | we used like 2 huge rolls of cat-6 cabling, he has like 4 cisco/whatever wireless-n boxes. if i am out back with my laptop, i will actually use his internet because i get a better connection with his than i do mine wirelessly :) | 00:00 |
|---|---|---|
| nixternal | my mom has the bose wave radio thing. you talk about sweet | 00:02 |
| nixternal | i don't know what all it does, but i know it sounds really good | 00:03 |
| rick_h_ | snap-l: we meeting up for dinner tomorrow? | 00:03 |
| snap-l | WE can try | 00:30 |
| rick_h_ | snap-l: thinking of just heading down after work and finding some food down there before my talk | 00:31 |
| rick_h_ | I should look at where this actually is :/ | 00:31 |
| rick_h_ | oh jeeze, that's way down there | 00:33 |
| rick_h_ | ooh, pf changs! | 00:35 |
| snap-l | Grrr.... phone is in perrysburg | 00:41 |
| rick_h_ | doh | 00:42 |
| snap-l | still has estimated date of tomorrow, though | 00:42 |
| snap-l | go little phone, go | 00:42 |
| rick_h_ | you think it can you think it can | 00:42 |
| snap-l | Don't be like rick_h_'s phones and get caught up in customs | 00:42 |
| snap-l | There's a fucking fly in here. | 01:25 |
| Revolutionary | Is anyone active right now? | 06:21 |
| brousch | ug, rough morning | 11:49 |
| rick_h_ | ouch | 11:50 |
| brousch | the boy broke his glasses, so he is all distraught. then he threw a fit and stomped on my wife's foot with his shoes, so he's more distraught | 11:51 |
| brousch | release party went well last night. 14 people there when there are typically 6 at that meeting | 11:54 |
| brousch | a lot less ubuntu hate this time around | 11:54 |
| rick_h_ | that's cool | 11:56 |
| rick_h_ | good to hear | 11:56 |
| brousch | perhaps | 11:57 |
| brousch | but there was only 1 unity user out of the 15 people | 11:57 |
| rick_h_ | ouch | 11:58 |
| brousch | right | 11:58 |
| brousch | although a few others said their wives were using it | 11:58 |
| brousch | so apparently unity is the pinterest of window managers | 11:58 |
| shakes808 | Good morning | 12:04 |
| shakes808 | what release party? | 12:04 |
| brousch | shakes808: west MI | 12:04 |
| rick_h_ | brousch: is a west sider, so they have their parties separately from us | 12:04 |
| brousch | east siders are to rowdy for us | 12:04 |
| rick_h_ | hah | 12:05 |
| shakes808 | HA | 12:06 |
| shakes808 | Should take you to Harpos for some good times :) | 12:06 |
| brousch | is that a biker bar? | 12:08 |
| rick_h_ | here you go jrwren http://goo.gl/fWcjW | 12:17 |
| brousch | i upgrade my wifi when my internet connection becomes faster than the wifi | 12:18 |
| rick_h_ | meh, what about those network backups you're of course doing to make sure you're data is safe? | 12:18 |
| shakes808 | http://www.harposconcerttheatre.com/ | 12:19 |
| snap-l | g'morning | 12:19 |
| shakes808 | morning | 12:20 |
| snap-l | brousch: Harpos is a metal bar on the east side | 12:21 |
| rick_h_ | gotta love prepping a talk, last night heading to bed and realized I've got a whole topic to cover I forgot | 12:21 |
| snap-l | Though they tend lately to have more hair metal | 12:21 |
| brousch | rick_h_: wired | 12:21 |
| brousch | actually i don't have an onsite backup at home right now. dropbox and crashplan | 12:22 |
| snap-l | Whew, Spike The Tomb is actually CC-licensed. | 12:24 |
| snap-l | Their singer set up the Bandcamp site, and didn't tell the rest of the band | 12:24 |
| brousch | heh | 12:24 |
| shakes808 | http://www.stubhub.com/rammstein-tickets/rammstein-auburn-hills-palace-of-auburn-hills-5-6-2012-2795154/ | 12:49 |
| shakes808 | Rammstein is coming :( | 12:49 |
| shakes808 | :D Anyone want to donate some monies to me to go to the show?!!!! | 12:49 |
| shakes808 | I am going to assume that the silence is a negative on that lol | 12:51 |
| snap-l | Already spent way too much on Rush tickets | 12:51 |
| shakes808 | lol | 12:51 |
| shakes808 | Understandable | 12:51 |
| shakes808 | :D | 12:51 |
| shakes808 | Geddy is an amazing bassist | 12:51 |
| shakes808 | Neil is an amazing Drummer | 12:51 |
| shakes808 | Acceptable ;) | 12:52 |
| shakes808 | in this chat window, why do peoples colors change and why are their colors? | 12:58 |
| rick_h_ | so not sure on why they change. The only coloring I tend to get is when someone mentions your name it lights up | 12:59 |
| rick_h_ | so if I say shakes808 then it should 'highlight' | 12:59 |
| shakes808 | yeah, your color went from blood red to bright red | 13:00 |
| shakes808 | and brousch and snap-l are green | 13:00 |
| rick_h_ | well they're nice, I'm evil | 13:00 |
| rick_h_ | sounds about right to me | 13:00 |
| shakes808 | HA HA | 13:00 |
| brousch | shakes808: what client are you using? | 13:00 |
| shakes808 | what? Heaven doesn't want you and Hell is afraid you will take over? | 13:00 |
| brousch | in pidgin it asigns a random color to a person, but when my name is mentioned it makes that name bold and gold | 13:01 |
| shakes808 | brousch: through the ubuntu teams site | 13:01 |
| shakes808 | How do I get this in Pidgin? | 13:01 |
| brousch | Accounts -> Manage Accounts -> Add -> Protocol: IRC -> Username: shakes808 | 13:02 |
| shakes808 | ok | 13:03 |
| shakes808 | server is irc.freenode.net | 13:03 |
| brousch | Then when that's done, Buddies -> Add Chat -> Account: shakes808@irc.ubuntu.com -> Channel: #ubuntu-us-mi -> Group: Channels -> Autojoin: yes | 13:04 |
| shakes808 | is this correct? | 13:04 |
| brousch | yeah, irc.freenode.net or irc.ubuntu.com | 13:04 |
| brousch | they're on the freenode network so either one works | 13:04 |
| shakes808 | I don't have Group: Channels | 13:05 |
| shakes808 | only groups are the ones that I set up in Pidgin | 13:05 |
| brousch | Make it | 13:05 |
| shakes808 | alright | 13:05 |
| shakes808 | was just asking if I should | 13:05 |
| brousch | name it whatever you want | 13:05 |
| shakes8081 | Hello? | 13:06 |
| brousch | yo | 13:06 |
| snap-l | It's like you're a new person | 13:06 |
| shakes8081 | :D I got it up | 13:06 |
| shakes8081 | Thank you | 13:06 |
| shakes8081 | :D | 13:06 |
| brousch | interesting hostname | 13:06 |
| shakes8081 | lol | 13:06 |
| shakes8081 | Auto did it since I was logged in both | 13:06 |
| shakes8081 | lol | 13:06 |
| shakes8081 | test | 13:07 |
| shakes8081 | nope | 13:07 |
| shakes8081 | lol | 13:07 |
| brousch | icles | 13:07 |
| shakes8081 | going to reconnect brb | 13:07 |
| shakes8081 | :D | 13:08 |
| shakes8081 | still 1? | 13:08 |
| shakes8081 | huh | 13:08 |
| snap-l | "On FedEx vehicle for delivery" | 13:08 |
| snap-l | A++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ | 13:08 |
| rick_h_ | snap-l: woot! now will fedex arrive before you have to leave for PC? | 13:08 |
| brousch | shakes8081 you need to logout of the first account | 13:08 |
| brousch | the one through the teams page | 13:08 |
| rick_h_ | plus you know it's going to need a solid 8hr charge before you can use it | 13:08 |
| shakes8081 | That window is gone | 13:08 |
| brousch | it must take a while to boot you out then | 13:09 |
| snap-l | rick_h_: Yes yes, I know. DOn't remind me. | 13:09 |
| shakes8081 | oh well :D maybe when I log in again Monday, it will change. If not I will reset it up without being in the chat | 13:10 |
| shakes8081 | lol | 13:10 |
| snap-l | rick_h_: Stop harshing my buzz. :) | 13:10 |
| shakes8081 | snap-l: what did you get? | 13:10 |
| snap-l | (even though I do it to you whenever you get ap phone) | 13:10 |
| snap-l | shakes8081: Samsung Galaxy S II via Ting.com | 13:10 |
| snap-l | Ordered it at the beginning of the month, and have waited for the backorder to be fulfilled. | 13:11 |
| snap-l | http://ting.com/twig <- Used that for a discount | 13:13 |
| shakes8081 | ting is a phone service? | 13:13 |
| snap-l | It's a reseller of Sprint | 13:13 |
| shakes8081 | like verizon / att / sprint / metro PCS | 13:13 |
| shakes8081 | .... | 13:13 |
| snap-l | idea is to pay for what you use in tiers | 13:13 |
| shakes8081 | but sprint sucks | 13:13 |
| shakes8081 | lol | 13:13 |
| shakes8081 | I have sprint | 13:13 |
| snap-l | shakes8081: Well, we'll see | 13:13 |
| shakes8081 | their service sucks | 13:13 |
| snap-l | I use the phone mostly at home / work anyway, so what I'm really looking for is a modicum of mobile bandwidth | 13:14 |
| snap-l | and it's month-to-month, so if it really sucks, I figure out something else. | 13:14 |
| jrwren | rick_h_: thanks for the gigabit wifi link :) I'll beleive when I see it, for now, I love my gigabit wired :) | 13:17 |
| rick_h_ | jrwren: yea, I worry that it's only a single device with talk of shaping wifi signals and using multiple bands to get it | 13:20 |
| rick_h_ | so next to impossible to get in real use, but cool none the less | 13:20 |
| brousch | shakes8081: if you disconnect and try it now your name will be correct. i saw your other account disconnect | 13:24 |
| jrwren | rick_h_: what does your tweet mean that you are allowed to review my codes? | 13:25 |
| rick_h_ | jrwren: I passed code review mentorship in LP | 13:25 |
| rick_h_ | so my code reviews don't have to be dbl checked/reviewed by my mentor any more and I've got my own code review day | 13:25 |
| jrwren | sounds like you do the process a lot different than we do. | 13:26 |
| rick_h_ | probably, we have a day where you're OCR (on call reviewer) and any merge proposals have to be reviewed before they can land in devel and to buildbot | 13:27 |
| shakes8081 | test | 13:27 |
| rick_h_ | pong | 13:27 |
| shakes8081 | huh | 13:27 |
| rick_h_ | shakes8081: | 13:27 |
| shakes8081 | still has the one | 13:28 |
| rick_h_ | https://dev.launchpad.net/ReviewerSchedule jrwren | 13:28 |
| shakes8081 | I will delete and remake it brb | 13:28 |
| shakes8081 | Test | 13:29 |
| shakes8081 | :( | 13:29 |
| rick_h_ | test result | 13:29 |
| shakes8081 | result = :( | 13:29 |
| rick_h_ | what isn't working? | 13:29 |
| jrwren | rick_h_: that is an interesting process. | 13:29 |
| jrwren | but doesn't it suck the day you are an OCR? | 13:29 |
| rick_h_ | jrwren: it can, I did nothing but reviedws yesterday | 13:30 |
| jrwren | rick_h_: :( | 13:30 |
| shakes808 | Test | 13:31 |
| shakes808 | YAY | 13:31 |
| rick_h_ | jrwren: love that rails twitter post | 13:33 |
| jrwren | rick_h_: i loled :) | 13:34 |
| brousch | sheat. momogr has asked me to fill in for a panelist at their next event http://www.meetup.com/MoMoGR/events/57263152/ | 13:55 |
| rick_h_ | a web meets mobile event sponsored by RIM? | 13:56 |
| brousch | they want me give my responsive design talk from grwebdev to a room full of non-programmers | 13:56 |
| rick_h_ | umm, interesting | 13:56 |
| rick_h_ | hah, nice | 13:56 |
| brousch | but none of the organizers saw my talk | 13:56 |
| brousch | it is 75% doing view source on html and css | 13:57 |
| brousch | extolling the cleanness of semantic.gs compared to typical css grid frameworks | 13:57 |
| brousch | so it comes down to can i BS about responsive web design for 10 minutes without embarrasing myself? | 13:58 |
| brousch | having made only a single responsive website | 13:58 |
| brousch | also, can i successfully stifle snickers every time they mention RIM or the playbook? | 14:00 |
| brousch | i failed at that when giving announcements at grwebdev | 14:00 |
| jrwren | wtf is responsive design? | 14:06 |
| ColonelPanic001 | make page smaller, it adjusts to mobile-friendly design | 14:07 |
| ColonelPanic001 | wayne.edu. Resize broswer to make it really narrow. | 14:07 |
| brousch | wayne.edu does not respond well ;) | 14:08 |
| ColonelPanic001 | not working? | 14:08 |
| ColonelPanic001 | I don't remember the size limit, looking | 14:09 |
| brousch | under 930px it does nothing | 14:09 |
| brousch | http://dl.dropbox.com/u/101667/DrItharat/index.html | 14:09 |
| brousch | that was what i used in my talk. looks good from 1080p to 320x480 | 14:09 |
| ColonelPanic001 | 930px? I mean, make it about phone-width. | 14:10 |
| ColonelPanic001 | heh, yeah, it's not *as* responsive as that | 14:10 |
| brousch | ColonelPanic001: but at 930px the content gets cut off | 14:10 |
| ColonelPanic001 | yeah, it's only when it gets very narrow that it does anything | 14:11 |
| ColonelPanic001 | I didn't make it. ;) | 14:11 |
| ColonelPanic001 | (it'd be worse if I did) | 14:11 |
| ColonelPanic001 | just one I knew offhand that was "responsive" | 14:11 |
| brousch | so it's broken from 500 - 930px | 14:11 |
| ColonelPanic001 | email web@wayne.edu and inform them :P | 14:11 |
| brousch | fix it :P | 14:11 |
| ColonelPanic001 | AIN'T MY SITE OMG | 14:12 |
| brousch | i blame you for referring me to it | 14:12 |
| ColonelPanic001 | >:-| | 14:12 |
| brousch | thanks, i needed a laugh this morning | 14:12 |
| ColonelPanic001 | >:-| | 14:12 |
| ColonelPanic001 | "Your site is pathetic, laughing at it cheered me up" | 14:13 |
| ColonelPanic001 | "You may go now" | 14:13 |
| brousch | not the site, the conversation | 14:13 |
| ColonelPanic001 | "Your conversation is pathetic, laughing at it cheered me up" | 14:13 |
| brousch | crap. momogr says they want a technical talk. i think i'm in | 14:13 |
| ColonelPanic001 | ...momogr? | 14:14 |
| ColonelPanic001 | idk wat that iz | 14:14 |
| brousch | the group asking me to speak/panelize | 14:14 |
| brousch | mobile monday grand rapids. you have one in detroit | 14:14 |
| ColonelPanic001 | ah, thought it was some text-speak for "manager" of some kind | 14:14 |
| ColonelPanic001 | yeah, wearing the shirt from OneDevDay right now,actually, heh | 14:15 |
| brousch | and ann arbor | 14:15 |
| brousch | http://mobilemondaydetroit.org/ | 14:15 |
| brousch | much more business people than i usually deal with | 14:15 |
| jrwren | so responsive design = media queries. | 14:16 |
| brousch | targets IT managers more than developers | 14:16 |
| ColonelPanic001 | jrwren: yeah, basically | 14:16 |
| ColonelPanic001 | just "if it's small use this smallshit.css file" | 14:16 |
| brousch | and feature detection (modernizr) | 14:16 |
| ColonelPanic001 | I have a problem. I'm kind of sick. Sneezing a bit, nose is runny, and a little cough from that. Nothing severe, but it's there. | 14:17 |
| ColonelPanic001 | and Penguicon is this weekend. | 14:17 |
| brousch | jrwren: basically it is making your web site work on any size screen on any (smart) device without resorting to a different version of the site | 14:18 |
| brousch | your typical 960px static grid site doesn't scale up or down well | 14:19 |
| ColonelPanic001 | except for wayne.edu | 14:19 |
| brousch | so you can make a large format version, a laptop version, a ipad version, a iphone version, an android version .... | 14:19 |
| brousch | or you can use responsive design techniques to have one flexible site adjust for all sizes | 14:20 |
| rick_h_ | jrwren: it's using css media queries basically | 14:27 |
| rick_h_ | ColonelPanic001: the answer is to go to the store, drink down two containers of nyquil, and get ready to come to my talk tomorrow | 14:27 |
| rick_h_ | jrwren: https://bmark.us/recent and then shrink your browser around 700px wide | 14:28 |
| * rick_h_ is a bit ashamed, need to fix that up still | 14:28 | |
| ColonelPanic001 | I have permission from rick_h_ to go to Pcon despite ilnnes | 14:28 |
| ColonelPanic001 | I'm there | 14:28 |
| rick_h_ | ColonelPanic001: only after you've drugged yourself thoroughly today/tonight | 14:29 |
| ColonelPanic001 | I'm already on dayquil ;) | 14:29 |
| ColonelPanic001 | I'm not really that bad | 14:29 |
| ColonelPanic001 | just sniffly, occasional nose-blowing | 14:29 |
| ColonelPanic001 | working from home ruined my sense of social mores with that | 14:29 |
| ColonelPanic001 | because the slightest sniffle, I'd just stay around home, it was no big deal. I mostly was a hermit anyway | 14:30 |
| ColonelPanic001 | I no longer know what's "normal" for being sick in public | 14:30 |
| rick_h_ | if you get me sick...there will be trouble. That's the norm | 14:30 |
| * ColonelPanic001 hides | 14:31 | |
| jrwren | rick_h_: yeah, that is what I said :) "10:16 jrwren| so responsive design = media queries." | 14:35 |
| jrwren | spread your illness at penguicon ! | 14:36 |
| ColonelPanic001 | I think I may have convinced a coworker to go, too | 14:40 |
| ColonelPanic001 | \o/ | 14:40 |
| rick_h_ | jrwren: ah sorry, what I get for scrollback skimming | 14:42 |
| jrwren | i do that all the time :) scrollback skimming ftw! | 14:53 |
| shakes808 | rick_h_ or snap-l: When I talked to John yesterday he mentioned the bpython stuff. In my finding it is supposed to be already with Ubuntu. How do I use/activate it? | 16:03 |
| rick_h_ | it's not, you need to install it | 16:04 |
| rick_h_ | have you installed/setup pip yet? | 16:04 |
| shakes808 | no, what is it? | 16:04 |
| rick_h_ | a way to install python packages from pypi.python.org | 16:04 |
| shakes808 | and on the bpython site it said it was included from 9.10 on | 16:04 |
| rick_h_ | think rubygems, or perl's thing | 16:04 |
| rick_h_ | apt-cache search bpython | 16:04 |
| shakes808 | never worked with ruby or perl, but I think i get it | 16:04 |
| rick_h_ | so yea, there are debian packages for bpython | 16:05 |
| rick_h_ | guess you can start there by installing it there | 16:05 |
| shakes808 | Alright, I will when I have my laptop with me | 16:05 |
| rick_h_ | http://guide.python-distribute.org/installation.html | 16:05 |
| rick_h_ | and | 16:06 |
| shakes808 | so, sudo apt-cache search bpython | 16:06 |
| rick_h_ | http://pypi.python.org/pypi | 16:06 |
| rick_h_ | you can apt-cache search without sudo | 16:06 |
| rick_h_ | but then you'll need sudo to install | 16:06 |
| shakes808 | alright | 16:06 |
| shakes808 | cool | 16:06 |
| shakes808 | ty | 16:06 |
| rick_h_ | sudo apt-get install bpython, bpython3 maybe...not sure which one you want to be honest | 16:06 |
| shakes808 | is there doc with the diffs? | 16:07 |
| rick_h_ | apt-cache show bpython | 16:07 |
| rick_h_ | run that for each package | 16:07 |
| shakes808 | ok | 16:08 |
| shakes808 | so search and then show and it will let me know what is there and description for them | 16:08 |
| rick_h_ | yea, you can see the package details with apt-cache show | 16:08 |
| shakes808 | cooll | 16:09 |
| shakes808 | ty | 16:10 |
| rick_h_ | woot http://travis-ci.org/#!/mitechie/bookie_parser | 17:26 |
| brousch | what is that? | 17:39 |
| rick_h_ | travisci running unit tests for the readable.bmark.us app | 17:41 |
| brousch | thank you mr obvious | 17:41 |
| rick_h_ | ok, well rephrase your question in some way I can tell which part you're unsure of :P | 17:42 |
| brousch | too late. i already googled it | 17:42 |
| rick_h_ | ok, works for me :) | 17:42 |
| brousch | Travis CI A hosted continuous integration service for the open source community. | 17:42 |
| rick_h_ | yep | 17:42 |
| rick_h_ | been all over the place the last several months | 17:43 |
| brousch | jrwren: http://bradfrostweb.com/blog/web/responsive-web-design-missing-the-point/ | 17:57 |
| snap-l | Yay, phone showed up | 18:01 |
| rick_h_ | snap-l: awesome, congrats! | 18:12 |
| shakes808 | snap-l: what phone did you get? | 18:14 |
| jcastro | anyone not doing anything I could use some editing/fixing up help on askubuntu | 18:52 |
| jcastro | it's friday now ... SO IT IS ON | 18:53 |
| rick_h_ | sorry call in 5min and then off to penguicon to prep for my talk | 18:55 |
| brousch | I'm too busy creating new, mistake-filled, badly-worded questions to help clean up old ones | 19:07 |
| shakes808 | have a good weekend all. | 20:26 |
| greg-g | jcastro: some days, I wish I could | 20:27 |
| jcastro | http://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=3900224 | 20:29 |
| jcastro | this is awesome | 20:29 |
| greg-g | little bobby tables | 20:30 |
| ColonelPanic002 | i have arrived at penguicon to spread disease and sickness. | 22:22 |
| ColonelPanic002 | i even came to rick's talk to spread it here, since he gave me permission to go. | 22:22 |
| ColonelPanic002 | that'll teach him. | 22:23 |
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