[00:00] we used like 2 huge rolls of cat-6 cabling, he has like 4 cisco/whatever wireless-n boxes. if i am out back with my laptop, i will actually use his internet because i get a better connection with his than i do mine wirelessly :) [00:02] my mom has the bose wave radio thing. you talk about sweet [00:03] i don't know what all it does, but i know it sounds really good [00:03] snap-l: we meeting up for dinner tomorrow? [00:30] WE can try [00:31] snap-l: thinking of just heading down after work and finding some food down there before my talk [00:31] I should look at where this actually is :/ [00:33] oh jeeze, that's way down there [00:35] ooh, pf changs! [00:41] Grrr.... phone is in perrysburg [00:42] doh [00:42] still has estimated date of tomorrow, though [00:42] go little phone, go [00:42] you think it can you think it can [00:42] Don't be like rick_h_'s phones and get caught up in customs [01:25] There's a fucking fly in here. [06:21] Is anyone active right now? [11:49] ug, rough morning [11:50] ouch [11:51] the boy broke his glasses, so he is all distraught. then he threw a fit and stomped on my wife's foot with his shoes, so he's more distraught [11:54] release party went well last night. 14 people there when there are typically 6 at that meeting [11:54] a lot less ubuntu hate this time around [11:56] that's cool [11:56] good to hear [11:57] perhaps [11:57] but there was only 1 unity user out of the 15 people [11:58] ouch [11:58] right [11:58] although a few others said their wives were using it [11:58] so apparently unity is the pinterest of window managers [12:04] Good morning [12:04] what release party? [12:04] shakes808: west MI [12:04] brousch: is a west sider, so they have their parties separately from us [12:04] east siders are to rowdy for us [12:05] hah [12:06] HA [12:06] Should take you to Harpos for some good times :) [12:08] is that a biker bar? [12:17] here you go jrwren http://goo.gl/fWcjW [12:18] i upgrade my wifi when my internet connection becomes faster than the wifi [12:18] meh, what about those network backups you're of course doing to make sure you're data is safe? [12:19] http://www.harposconcerttheatre.com/ [12:19] g'morning [12:20] morning [12:21] brousch: Harpos is a metal bar on the east side [12:21] gotta love prepping a talk, last night heading to bed and realized I've got a whole topic to cover I forgot [12:21] Though they tend lately to have more hair metal [12:21] rick_h_: wired [12:22] actually i don't have an onsite backup at home right now. dropbox and crashplan [12:24] Whew, Spike The Tomb is actually CC-licensed. [12:24] Their singer set up the Bandcamp site, and didn't tell the rest of the band [12:24] heh [12:49] http://www.stubhub.com/rammstein-tickets/rammstein-auburn-hills-palace-of-auburn-hills-5-6-2012-2795154/ [12:49] Rammstein is coming :( [12:49] :D Anyone want to donate some monies to me to go to the show?!!!! [12:51] I am going to assume that the silence is a negative on that lol [12:51] Already spent way too much on Rush tickets [12:51] lol [12:51] Understandable [12:51] :D [12:51] Geddy is an amazing bassist [12:51] Neil is an amazing Drummer [12:52] Acceptable ;) [12:58] in this chat window, why do peoples colors change and why are their colors? [12:59] so not sure on why they change. The only coloring I tend to get is when someone mentions your name it lights up [12:59] so if I say shakes808 then it should 'highlight' [13:00] yeah, your color went from blood red to bright red [13:00] and brousch and snap-l are green [13:00] well they're nice, I'm evil [13:00] sounds about right to me [13:00] HA HA [13:00] shakes808: what client are you using? [13:00] what? Heaven doesn't want you and Hell is afraid you will take over? [13:01] in pidgin it asigns a random color to a person, but when my name is mentioned it makes that name bold and gold [13:01] brousch: through the ubuntu teams site [13:01] How do I get this in Pidgin? [13:02] Accounts -> Manage Accounts -> Add -> Protocol: IRC -> Username: shakes808 [13:03] ok [13:03] server is irc.freenode.net [13:04] Then when that's done, Buddies -> Add Chat -> Account: shakes808@irc.ubuntu.com -> Channel: #ubuntu-us-mi -> Group: Channels -> Autojoin: yes [13:04] is this correct? [13:04] yeah, irc.freenode.net or irc.ubuntu.com [13:04] they're on the freenode network so either one works [13:05] I don't have Group: Channels [13:05] only groups are the ones that I set up in Pidgin [13:05] Make it [13:05] alright [13:05] was just asking if I should [13:05] name it whatever you want [13:06] Hello? [13:06] yo [13:06] It's like you're a new person [13:06] :D I got it up [13:06] Thank you [13:06] :D [13:06] interesting hostname [13:06] lol [13:06] Auto did it since I was logged in both [13:06] lol [13:07] test [13:07] nope [13:07] lol [13:07] icles [13:07] going to reconnect brb [13:08] :D [13:08] still 1? [13:08] huh [13:08] "On FedEx vehicle for delivery" [13:08] A++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ [13:08] snap-l: woot! now will fedex arrive before you have to leave for PC? [13:08] shakes8081 you need to logout of the first account [13:08] the one through the teams page [13:08] plus you know it's going to need a solid 8hr charge before you can use it [13:08] That window is gone [13:09] it must take a while to boot you out then [13:09] rick_h_: Yes yes, I know. DOn't remind me. [13:10] oh well :D maybe when I log in again Monday, it will change. If not I will reset it up without being in the chat [13:10] lol [13:10] rick_h_: Stop harshing my buzz. :) [13:10] snap-l: what did you get? [13:10] (even though I do it to you whenever you get ap phone) [13:10] shakes8081: Samsung Galaxy S II via Ting.com [13:11] Ordered it at the beginning of the month, and have waited for the backorder to be fulfilled. [13:13] http://ting.com/twig <- Used that for a discount [13:13] ting is a phone service? [13:13] It's a reseller of Sprint [13:13] like verizon / att / sprint / metro PCS [13:13] .... [13:13] idea is to pay for what you use in tiers [13:13] but sprint sucks [13:13] lol [13:13] I have sprint [13:13] shakes8081: Well, we'll see [13:13] their service sucks [13:14] I use the phone mostly at home / work anyway, so what I'm really looking for is a modicum of mobile bandwidth [13:14] and it's month-to-month, so if it really sucks, I figure out something else. [13:17] rick_h_: thanks for the gigabit wifi link :) I'll beleive when I see it, for now, I love my gigabit wired :) [13:20] jrwren: yea, I worry that it's only a single device with talk of shaping wifi signals and using multiple bands to get it [13:20] so next to impossible to get in real use, but cool none the less [13:24] shakes8081: if you disconnect and try it now your name will be correct. i saw your other account disconnect [13:25] rick_h_: what does your tweet mean that you are allowed to review my codes? [13:25] jrwren: I passed code review mentorship in LP [13:25] so my code reviews don't have to be dbl checked/reviewed by my mentor any more and I've got my own code review day [13:26] sounds like you do the process a lot different than we do. [13:27] probably, we have a day where you're OCR (on call reviewer) and any merge proposals have to be reviewed before they can land in devel and to buildbot [13:27] test [13:27] pong [13:27] huh [13:27] shakes8081: [13:28] still has the one [13:28] https://dev.launchpad.net/ReviewerSchedule jrwren [13:28] I will delete and remake it brb [13:29] Test [13:29] :( [13:29] test result [13:29] result = :( [13:29] what isn't working? [13:29] rick_h_: that is an interesting process. [13:29] but doesn't it suck the day you are an OCR? [13:30] jrwren: it can, I did nothing but reviedws yesterday [13:30] rick_h_: :( [13:31] Test [13:31] YAY [13:33] jrwren: love that rails twitter post [13:34] rick_h_: i loled :) [13:55] sheat. momogr has asked me to fill in for a panelist at their next event http://www.meetup.com/MoMoGR/events/57263152/ [13:56] a web meets mobile event sponsored by RIM? [13:56] they want me give my responsive design talk from grwebdev to a room full of non-programmers [13:56] umm, interesting [13:56] hah, nice [13:56] but none of the organizers saw my talk [13:57] it is 75% doing view source on html and css [13:57] extolling the cleanness of semantic.gs compared to typical css grid frameworks [13:58] so it comes down to can i BS about responsive web design for 10 minutes without embarrasing myself? [13:58] having made only a single responsive website [14:00] also, can i successfully stifle snickers every time they mention RIM or the playbook? [14:00] i failed at that when giving announcements at grwebdev [14:06] wtf is responsive design? [14:07] make page smaller, it adjusts to mobile-friendly design [14:07] wayne.edu. Resize broswer to make it really narrow. [14:08] wayne.edu does not respond well ;) [14:08] not working? [14:09] I don't remember the size limit, looking [14:09] under 930px it does nothing [14:09] http://dl.dropbox.com/u/101667/DrItharat/index.html [14:09] that was what i used in my talk. looks good from 1080p to 320x480 [14:10] 930px? I mean, make it about phone-width. [14:10] heh, yeah, it's not *as* responsive as that [14:10] ColonelPanic001: but at 930px the content gets cut off [14:11] yeah, it's only when it gets very narrow that it does anything [14:11] I didn't make it. ;) [14:11] (it'd be worse if I did) [14:11] just one I knew offhand that was "responsive" [14:11] so it's broken from 500 - 930px [14:11] email web@wayne.edu and inform them :P [14:11] fix it :P [14:12] AIN'T MY SITE OMG [14:12] i blame you for referring me to it [14:12] >:-| [14:12] thanks, i needed a laugh this morning [14:12] >:-| [14:13] "Your site is pathetic, laughing at it cheered me up" [14:13] "You may go now" [14:13] not the site, the conversation [14:13] "Your conversation is pathetic, laughing at it cheered me up" [14:13] crap. momogr says they want a technical talk. i think i'm in [14:14] ...momogr? [14:14] idk wat that iz [14:14] the group asking me to speak/panelize [14:14] mobile monday grand rapids. you have one in detroit [14:14] ah, thought it was some text-speak for "manager" of some kind [14:15] yeah, wearing the shirt from OneDevDay right now,actually, heh [14:15] and ann arbor [14:15] http://mobilemondaydetroit.org/ [14:15] much more business people than i usually deal with [14:16] so responsive design = media queries. [14:16] targets IT managers more than developers [14:16] jrwren: yeah, basically [14:16] just "if it's small use this smallshit.css file" [14:16] and feature detection (modernizr) [14:17] I have a problem. I'm kind of sick. Sneezing a bit, nose is runny, and a little cough from that. Nothing severe, but it's there. [14:17] and Penguicon is this weekend. [14:18] jrwren: basically it is making your web site work on any size screen on any (smart) device without resorting to a different version of the site [14:19] your typical 960px static grid site doesn't scale up or down well [14:19] except for wayne.edu [14:19] so you can make a large format version, a laptop version, a ipad version, a iphone version, an android version .... [14:20] or you can use responsive design techniques to have one flexible site adjust for all sizes [14:27] jrwren: it's using css media queries basically [14:27] ColonelPanic001: the answer is to go to the store, drink down two containers of nyquil, and get ready to come to my talk tomorrow [14:28] jrwren: https://bmark.us/recent and then shrink your browser around 700px wide [14:28] * rick_h_ is a bit ashamed, need to fix that up still [14:28] I have permission from rick_h_ to go to Pcon despite ilnnes [14:28] I'm there [14:29] ColonelPanic001: only after you've drugged yourself thoroughly today/tonight [14:29] I'm already on dayquil ;) [14:29] I'm not really that bad [14:29] just sniffly, occasional nose-blowing [14:29] working from home ruined my sense of social mores with that [14:30] because the slightest sniffle, I'd just stay around home, it was no big deal. I mostly was a hermit anyway [14:30] I no longer know what's "normal" for being sick in public [14:30] if you get me sick...there will be trouble. That's the norm [14:31] * ColonelPanic001 hides [14:35] rick_h_: yeah, that is what I said :) "10:16 jrwren| so responsive design = media queries." [14:36] spread your illness at penguicon ! [14:40] I think I may have convinced a coworker to go, too [14:40] \o/ [14:42] jrwren: ah sorry, what I get for scrollback skimming [14:53] i do that all the time :) scrollback skimming ftw! [16:03] rick_h_ or snap-l: When I talked to John yesterday he mentioned the bpython stuff. In my finding it is supposed to be already with Ubuntu. How do I use/activate it? [16:04] it's not, you need to install it [16:04] have you installed/setup pip yet? [16:04] no, what is it? [16:04] a way to install python packages from pypi.python.org [16:04] and on the bpython site it said it was included from 9.10 on [16:04] think rubygems, or perl's thing [16:04] apt-cache search bpython [16:04] never worked with ruby or perl, but I think i get it [16:05] so yea, there are debian packages for bpython [16:05] guess you can start there by installing it there [16:05] Alright, I will when I have my laptop with me [16:05] http://guide.python-distribute.org/installation.html [16:06] and [16:06] so, sudo apt-cache search bpython [16:06] http://pypi.python.org/pypi [16:06] you can apt-cache search without sudo [16:06] but then you'll need sudo to install [16:06] alright [16:06] cool [16:06] ty [16:06] sudo apt-get install bpython, bpython3 maybe...not sure which one you want to be honest [16:07] is there doc with the diffs? [16:07] apt-cache show bpython [16:07] run that for each package [16:08] ok [16:08] so search and then show and it will let me know what is there and description for them [16:08] yea, you can see the package details with apt-cache show [16:09] cooll [16:10] ty [17:26] woot http://travis-ci.org/#!/mitechie/bookie_parser [17:39] what is that? [17:41] travisci running unit tests for the readable.bmark.us app [17:41] thank you mr obvious [17:42] ok, well rephrase your question in some way I can tell which part you're unsure of :P [17:42] too late. i already googled it [17:42] ok, works for me :) [17:42] Travis CI A hosted continuous integration service for the open source community. [17:42] yep [17:43] been all over the place the last several months [17:57] jrwren: http://bradfrostweb.com/blog/web/responsive-web-design-missing-the-point/ [18:01] Yay, phone showed up [18:12] snap-l: awesome, congrats! [18:14] snap-l: what phone did you get? [18:52] anyone not doing anything I could use some editing/fixing up help on askubuntu [18:53] it's friday now ... SO IT IS ON [18:55] sorry call in 5min and then off to penguicon to prep for my talk [19:07] I'm too busy creating new, mistake-filled, badly-worded questions to help clean up old ones [20:26] have a good weekend all. [20:27] jcastro: some days, I wish I could [20:29] http://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=3900224 [20:29] this is awesome [20:30] little bobby tables [22:22] i have arrived at penguicon to spread disease and sickness. [22:22] i even came to rick's talk to spread it here, since he gave me permission to go. [22:23] that'll teach him.