[00:00] <zykotick9> pmp6nl: expect issues ;)
[00:00] <sokak> zykotick9, thats the point, when i try to get the manpage of getlibs, it points me to man 7 undocumented
[00:00] <zykotick9> pmp6nl: best to disable all PPAs, upgrade, and then readd the PPAs (i think the install does that automatically though ;)
[00:00] <sokak> also no luck googling
[00:00] <pmp6nl> zykotick9, ok ill try, or maybe i will just reinstall everything
[00:01] <trism> synackfin: aptitude search ~o
[00:01] <wylde> pndemc_: so basically it's controlled completely remotely, using ssh and sftp for the most part.
[00:01] <pndemc_> wylde, I plan on using a GUI on mine, will this have much of a performance impact? I seriously doubt I could do it all command-line only
[00:01] <zykotick9> sokak: i wouldn't be surprise if getlibs doesn't have a man page - check online or something?  i haven't used getlibs in a while, don't have it install currently so can't really test.
[00:02] <wylde> pndemc_: that honestly depends on the DE and if you're going to run things like compiz or any other compositing on it.
[00:02] <sokak> zykotick9, so i guess its time to nuke everything, purge my home from all config data, and start a fresh pangoline. Many forums have still opened threads about getlibs uninstall pointing to nil - im just too lazy to manually clean everything
[00:02] <pndemc_> wylde, it's currently a windows server, that we have VNC access to
[00:02] <pndemc_> wylde, so theres explorer running
[00:02] <zykotick9> sokak: fresh install (with data backups) is the cleanest route
[00:03] <sokak> zykotick9, i have no probs on that - my home sits on its own 4 tb hdd ;o
[00:03] <wylde> pndemc_: potentially, it CAN cause a fair bit more load. However a minimal GUI can give you very little overhead.(LXDE for example)
[00:03] <pndemc_> wylde, would I be able to disable/reenable the GUI at the ease of a command?
[00:03] <AndChat311001> Anybody knows the default username and password of ubuntu 12.04...I can't login
[00:03] <wylde> pndemc_: yep, just kill the xserver.
[00:03] <sokak> i have just been too damn lazy and forgot to ddump my system partition before messing
[00:04] <three18ti_> AndChat311001, you set it when you install the OS.  you can boot into safe mode and reset the PW.
[00:04] <Fyodorovna> AndChat311001, the live cd?
[00:04] <pndemc_> wylde, okay, if I go Debian Squeeze, it's just Gnome 2.3, that minimal enough?
[00:04] <sokak> that will be my first step after reinstalling and updating pangoline.
[00:04] <three18ti_> trying to update and I keep getting Failed to fetch bzip2:/var/lib/apt/lists/partial/us.archive.ubuntu.com_ubuntu_dists_precise-updates_main_binary-amd64_Packages  Hash Sum mismatch  after an apt-get update.  Anyone else?
[00:05] <kfizz> Anyone know how to connect to a wireless network via command line?
[00:05] <ActionParsnip> kfizz: iwconfig
[00:05] <ActionParsnip> kfizz: or use wicd-curses :)
[00:05] <wylde> pndemc_: when you install, if your don't install anything like gdm, lightdm, kdm etc., then you just type 'startx' when you want to use the gui, and kill the xserver when you're finished.
[00:05] <smallfoot-> hmm
[00:06] <dkap> hi, i just upgraded to ubunntu 12.04 64 bit and tried to install chrome, but the libnss3-1d package was missing...
[00:06] <zvacet> AndChat311001: on live Cd there is no username or password
[00:06] <dkap> tryingg to install libnss3-1d gives
[00:06] <kfizz> Wind-curses not installed. Reading man for iwconfig
[00:06] <dkap> Conflicts: libnss3-1d but 3.13.1.with.ckbi.1.88-1ubuntu6 is to be installed
[00:06] <pndemc_> wylde, that's exactly what I'm looking for. this server will be hosting a few game servers so that will be perfect for performance
[00:07] <pndemc_> wylde, I've come to realize hosting game servers on windows is a pain
[00:07] <wylde> pndemc_:  lol, I'm not going to disagree with you!
[00:08] <pndemc_> wylde, a tf2 server update broke our server for half a week
[00:08] <pndemc_> wylde, only broke windows servers <_<
[00:09] <wylde> pndemc_: yikes... that's never good. So doing a test run in *nix or planning on a full swith?
[00:09] <AndChat311001> three18ti_ no I didn't set password
[00:09] <three18ti_> ok, think I found my answer, http://ubuntuforums.org/showpost.php?p=11593258&postcount=2
[00:09] <three18ti_> AndChat311001, is it installed or live CD version?
[00:10] <AndChat311001> U s b
[00:10] <AndChat311001> Live
[00:10] <pndemc_> wylde, planning on a full switch (since we now also want to webhost on it), I want to do a test run first though so the actual switch goes smoothly
[00:10] <pndemc_> setting up srcds on linux is a little more complicated because of the differences between distros
[00:11] <killown> how disable this feature on 12.04 for those who have multi monitors, if you move de mouse cursor slowly it will not allows it passes to the other monitor unless you move it fast?
[00:11] <pndemc_> wylde,  setting up srcds on linux is a little more complicated because of the differences between distros
[00:11] <wylde> pndemc_: ALWAYS a good idea :) Not to mention backups! which never seem to be thought about until people have a dead or dying system heh.
[00:11] <DaniG2k> guys I have Japanese and Korean language support installed but
[00:11] <DaniG2k> I'm not getting a keyboard icon
[00:11] <DaniG2k> to switch between inputs
[00:11] <DaniG2k> how can I fix this?
[00:11] <OfficeITGuy149> Hey #Ubuntu! This might be a really dumb question, but is it possible to install a windows driver in ubuntu? I have a Lenovo U300s trackpad which is awful in Ubuntu, and someone says they replaced their driver with a Dell one and it's great now.
[00:12] <sokak_> wild question. whats the more multithread friendly, secure and more efficient compression method i can pipe dd to?
[00:12] <three18ti_> AndChat311001, how did you create the liveCD?
[00:12] <wylde> pndemc_: being a bit more complicated can be resolved with a little extra reasearch, which beats broken servers by a mile, I think anyway :)
[00:12] <bazhang> DaniG2k, ibus-setup yet?
[00:12] <pndemc_> OfficeITGuy149, I think dell offers some ubuntu drivers because of their partnership
[00:13] <OfficeITGuy149> Interesing pndemc_, do you know where I can find those? I'm googling around now...
[00:13] <vexaxv> anyone having issues with the unity bar auto hide?
[00:13] <kfizz> Is there a way to boot Ubuntu without the extra startup programs, like a safe mode? I've tried recovery mode with no luck.
[00:14] <AndChat311001> three18ti_ I deleted a couple of application and did update and when i rebooted I was promted to username and password
[00:14] <dkap> if a package had errors installing, how do we remove it, so that next time when we try installing another package, ubuntu does not complain about the former?
[00:14] <wylde> dkap: 'sudo apt-get -f install'
[00:15] <three18ti_> AndChat311001, what applications did you remove?  Have you tried logging in using no password?
[00:15] <zykotick9> !info gnome-session-fallback
[00:15] <frankbro> Having a weird issue with 12.04 on my acer iconia w500. After a while, mouse and keyboard inputs wont react with unity. I see my mouse moving, if I ctrl+alt+f1, I have access to tty, top shows nothing is hugging my CPU, yet I cant do anything.
[00:15] <pndemc_> OfficeITGuy149, sorry I don't, only know because of those ubuntu computers dell was selling awhile back
[00:15] <OfficeITGuy149> OK thanks.
[00:15] <acalbaza> anyone have a problem with eclipse context menus in 12.04
[00:15] <zykotick9> the gnome-session-fallback is very gnome 2 like.  the !notunity factoid should be updated.
[00:15] <sarnold> kfizz: if you're in real trouble, if you boot with the kernel parameter init=/bin/sh, you'll be given an administrative shell immediately after root has been mounted -- nothing else gets mounted, no other scripts get run, so you've got a fairly plain system to work with.
[00:16] <DaniG2k> bazhang thanks that helped
[00:16] <ox1de> xubuntu installing.........
[00:16] <dkap> yes, but my 'sudo apt-get -f install' itself ends up with errrors!!
[00:16] <IdleOne> zykotick9: that isn't a factoid, that info is pulled from the repos
[00:16] <pndemc_> so what's new with unity in 12.04?
[00:16] <prime_> @search Logically Fallacious
[00:17] <zykotick9> IdleOne: but !notunity factoid should now reflect using gnome-session-fallback
[00:17] <prime_> oops sorry!
[00:17] <zykotick9> !notunity
[00:17] <prime_> Hi all - Is this a good place to ask  a 12.04 question?
[00:17] <three18ti_> prime_, just ask
[00:17] <wylde> !ask | prime_
[00:18] <IdleOne> zykotick9: /msg ubottu !notunity is <reply> add your edits :)
[00:18] <AndChat311001> three18ti_ I don't know how to login without password , I deleted office , mail and many other
[00:18] <prime_> i have recurrent 12.04 system errors, usually early in the session. Where are the logs I can look at to see what exactly is crashing?
[00:18] <prime_> I'm not quite a noob, but...
[00:18] <zykotick9> IdleOne: i'll suggest it in -irc, and hopefully someone will run with it.
[00:18] <IdleOne> prime_: /var/logs
[00:18] <wylde> prime_: /var/log
[00:19] <ActionParsnip> AndChat311001: http://www.tuxgarage.com/2011/09/setting-lightdm-to-auto-login-oneiric.html
[00:19] <prime_> ok thank!
[00:19] <prime_> you
[00:19] <Fizzik> Hi guys, I have installed tightvncserver on my ubuntu 12.04 machine and the service has started but i cant connect it to it from my windows machine. I don't know what could be wrong but any suggestions on possibly solving the issue or trying something else?
[00:19] <bc``> my 3tv drive is only being read as a 2tb drive
[00:19] <prime_> any idea which log might be most useful?
[00:19] <ActionParsnip> Fizzik: can you ping the name?
[00:20] <Fizzik> ActionParsnip yes because i am sshd into the machine
[00:20] <vexaxv> anyone having issues with unity bar auto hide??
[00:20] <three18ti_> AndChat311001, the reason I'm asking is I'm trying to figure out if you inadvertently removed the wrong package.  I'll ask again, how did you create the live cd?
[00:20] <AndChat311001> Ok ActionParsnip
[00:21] <three18ti_> thanks <ActionParsnip>
[00:21] <virusuy> happy release day everyon !
[00:21] <AndChat311001> three18ti_ I used universal installer
[00:21] <the-erm> lol
[00:21] <pndemc_> ^^
[00:21] <ActionParsnip> Fizzik: is the service running now?
[00:23] <kfizz> In precise is the property way to start a gui startx or something like lightdm
[00:23] <td123> kfizz: use a dm
[00:23] <AaronCampbell> On my laptop, post 12.04 update, ctrl+alt+up maximizes a window.  On my desktop it doesn't...instead alt+f10 does.  Holding Super shows this.  What's different?
[00:24] <td123> kfizz: startx poses a physical security risk if not properly configured
[00:25] <naryfa> Hi, would anybody have any idea, why the two arrows in the weather applet never actually update? I don't know where to ask this question. Take a look please. http://picpaste.com/pics/Screenshot_from_2012-04-26_20_19_42-4jcYFUoy.1335486044.png
[00:25] <pndemc_> td123, "physical security risk" what do you mean?
[00:25] <td123> pndemc_: if you lock your computer, alt+ctrl+f1 and ctrl+c :P
[00:26] <Logan_> aarcane: It's Ctrl-Super-Up
[00:26] <pndemc_> td123, so startx would not be a problem for server use?
[00:26] <Logan_> AaronCampbell*
[00:26] <bc``> i just reformatted a 3tb drive, and then mounted it, but it's only showing up as a 2tb drive-- does anyone know how to fix this? thanks!
[00:26] <aarcane> Logan_, thanks.
[00:27] <Logan_> aarcane: :-(
[00:27] <AaronCampbell> Logan_: Sorry, you're right...on the laptop.  But not the desktop I'm on
[00:27] <td123> pndemc_: I don't know the situation, I guess if you only use startx for like 1 continuous session
[00:27] <aarcane> Logan_, what?  I tried it and it worked :)
[00:27] <ox1de> xubuntu loaded! i'm back online!@!! thankz for the help!
[00:27] <Logan_> aarcane: I was trying to respond to AaronCampbell, though. :-P
[00:28] <aarcane> Logan_, well, it worked for me.  Go fig~  Good luck!
[00:28] <gogeta> wtf happond unity is not slow crashy and otherwie suck
[00:28] <td123> pndemc_: in the end it's your decision, it's just good that you know the possible problem
[00:28] <Logan_> gogeta: Is that a backhanded compliment?
[00:28] <gogeta> who finnly fired the artest and made a real window manager out of it
[00:28] <Fizzik> Hi guys, I have installed tightvncserver on my ubuntu 12.04 machine and the service has started but i cant connect it to it from my windows machine. I don't know what could be wrong but any suggestions on possibly solving the issue or trying something else? Yes, i can reach the machine because i am sshd into it
[00:28] <gogeta> Logan_: :)
[00:29] <pndemc_> lol
[00:29] <bazhang> gogeta, thats not a support question. also watch the cursing
[00:29] <pndemc_> are there themes for unity?
[00:29] <Logan_> Nope.
[00:29] <Logan_> pndemc_: Well, not for the launcher.
[00:30] <bazhang> pndemc_, you mean a lens?
[00:30] <pndemc_> theres 2 for window colours, are there more sources for these?
[00:30] <gogeta> Logan_: i did hear something abought them coming
[00:30] <krababbel> gnome is nice too
[00:31] <pndemc_> I've always wanted to try Gnome3
[00:31] <krababbel> great
[00:31] <naryfa> pndemc_: so what's stopping you?
[00:31] <Logan_> pndemc_: You can! Just do: sudo apt-get install gnome-shell
[00:31] <celso> hi all!
[00:31] <Bennlucky7> good morning all
[00:31] <^Mike> How hard is it to get gnome-shell or gnome2 on a 12.04 install?
[00:31] <pndemc_> I'll give it a try after the 12.04 update
[00:32] <bazhang> !notunity | ^Mike
[00:32] <celso> does someone can tell me if i should install the amd post updates install driver or it will broken my xserver again ?  (ubuntu 12.04)
[00:32] <bazhang> ^Mike, gnome2 is gone, absent an unstable unsupported ppa
[00:32] <Logan_> celso: The post-release updates driver is very broken, I believe. It didn't work for me.
[00:33] <krababbel> it has usability, gnome3
[00:33] <^Mike> I assume you mean "absent a stable, supported, ppa" :(
[00:33] <Fizzik> any recommend some remote desktop server apps for linux?
[00:33] <Fizzik> that i can access via my windows machine
[00:33] <bazhang> ^Mike, no, as there are not any supported PPA of any kind
[00:33] <gogeta> ^Mike: look up the mate project its gnome 2 ported to gtk3
[00:34] <Logan_> Fizzik: TeamViewer is very easy to set up.
[00:34] <pndemc_> I  believe Mint is using MATE
[00:34] <Logan_> !vnc | Fizzik, you may want to take a look at this also
[00:34] <celso> that is the problem. cause it should be disabled. but i dont want to broken my entire OS.  but thanks for the help logan
[00:34] <gogeta> pndemc_: mint uses everything lol
[00:34] <Logan_> celso: No problem. I find that the open source driver works fine with my card.
[00:35] <pndemc_> gogeta, mate on their main release ^^
[00:35] <celso> true, but i curently use fglrx because it controls better my fans( in my opinion) :D
[00:35] <pndemc_> how well would windows run in a virtualbox?
[00:35] <pndemc_> good enough for gaming?
[00:36] <gogeta> pndemc_: umm no
[00:36] <Logan_> pndemc_: Probably not.
[00:36] <^Mike> Can you upgrade from an ISO? The alternate image, right?
[00:36] <krababbel> dosbox reliably
[00:36] <bazhang> ^Mike, yes
[00:36] <celso> Logan: and did you tried the hybrid graphics? (if you have) or still broken?
[00:36] <gogeta> pndemc_: win will run many games just not all of them
[00:36] <gogeta> wine
[00:36] <^Mike> excellent, thanks
[00:36] <ActionParsnip> ^Mike: yes, you don't even need to burn it, you can just loop mount it
[00:36] <pndemc_> I have steam running in wine
[00:37] <Logan_> celso: I have hybrid graphics in my laptop, and I just have the AMD card disabled since the Intel one doesn't use the fans as much and saves battery. I don't do gaming.
[00:37] <pndemc_> but game performance was unplayable
[00:37] <^Mike> ActionParsnip: Yes, I remember doing that previously
[00:37] <gogeta> pndemc_: steam is coming for linux first game will be left4dead 2
[00:37] <Fizzik> ok so i need to get x11vnc running but can i access it in windows
[00:37] <pndemc_> I heard, very excited :D
[00:37] <ActionParsnip> does nayone need more than tuxcart?
[00:37] <Logan_> hah
[00:37] <pndemc_> http://www.engadget.com/2012/04/25/steam-for-linux/
[00:37] <pndemc_> that's the article for anyone interested
[00:38] <bazhang> !ot | pndemc_
[00:38] <gogeta> pndemc_: yea it got leaked a long time ago they just denied it this long
[00:38] <celso> Logan: how? did you disabled on the bios?  sorry... maybe i am asking too much...
[00:38] <bazhang> gogeta, lets get back on topic
[00:39] <celso> Logan: i am asking because i can't disable on bios and dont know how to disable on the OS.
[00:39] <aarcane> So has anyone tried Business Desktop Remix?  Far as I can tell it's not a lot different.
[00:40] <Loonatic> where they hidden the xorg.conf in 12.04 LTS ?
[00:40] <gogeta> aarcane: most remixes are not just a diffrent app set
[00:40] <Logan_> celso: No, no. Don't worry about asking. I personally have an Envy 14, and I was able to use these instructions to disable the discrete card: http://forum.notebookreview.com/hp-envy-hdx/498550-envy-14-linux-27.html#post8013756
[00:40] <zykotick9> Loonatic: not there by default (hasn't been for a while)
[00:40] <gogeta> Loonatic: no its not used if you need it you have to genrate it
[00:40] <gogeta> Loonatic: all auto now
[00:41] <Loonatic> gogeta: ok.. so if i have an issue playing .mp4 they are choppy but not .mov or .mp3
[00:41] <aarcane> Aha, I found the difference.  BUsiness Desktop is 32 bit only :(
[00:41] <ManuelSantana> why the ubuntu side bar doesn't hide in 12.04
[00:41] <ManuelSantana> ?
[00:41] <gogeta> Loonatic: is it a old box or something h264 can use alot of cpu
[00:42] <celso> Logan: wait.... that fixed your problem with hybrid graphics??? are you sure??? just that?
[00:42] <Logan_> ManuelSantana: It was a design decision. You can set it to autohide using CCSM.
[00:42] <Logan_> !ccsm | ManuelSantana
[00:42] <ManuelSantana> ccsm?
[00:42] <Loonatic> ManuelSantana: SystemSettings --> Appearance --> Behavior --> On :)
[00:42] <cap> gogeta: Loonatic Actually, it's been "all auto" for some time now. ButL: When you install proprietary drivers, the xorg.conf file is created a that time.
[00:43] <Logan_> celso: Yeah, the rc.local changes did it for me. You just comment out either the "echo DIGD" line or the "echo DDIS" line in the file, depending on which one you want the computer to use when booting.
[00:43] <ManuelSantana> thanks Loonatic
[00:43] <Loonatic> cap: ok i think this is what i need to do to enable my radeon card
[00:43] <Logan_> celso: (I'm referring to the "Fix Hybrid Graphics and Brightness at Startup" section of that post.)
[00:43] <Lint> What should I do to enable gnome-shell?
[00:43] <cap> Loonatic: Well, yea, maybe for some of the advanced features....
[00:44] <kfizz> How can I edit the gateway four an eth0 connection? The route command failed to set it
[00:44] <gogeta> Logan_: well then you just genrate the xorg.conf and the system wile use it and you can pass oprions
[00:44] <sokak_> seems like i found an answer to mi previous question - just sharing for anyone's interested sake. Piping dd to tar, and then repacking the result to a 7z -mx9 -mmt backup.7z seems doing the magic of multithread compression AND permission saving.
[00:44] <sokak_> i guess i can do one liner from that.
[00:44] <Logan_> gogeta: It's deeper down than X, though.
[00:44] <Lint> sokak_, you don´t need tar
[00:44] <gogeta> Logan_: thats the file you need to mod rite
[00:44] <cap> kfizz: edit /etc/network/interfaces
[00:44] <Loonatic> cap: i think i should be able to play goPRO video with a FireMV2250 plsu AMD64 3800+ 2.5GbRAM
[00:45] <ryan-c> sokak_: you should modify tar to support a -7 option
[00:45] <sokak_> Lint, as far as i can remember 7zip could mess with permissions
[00:45] <Logan_> gogeta: No, /etc/rc.local.
[00:45] <trevor> so what exactly are the benefits of LTS?
[00:45] <gogeta> Logan_: thats still there
[00:45] <Lint> sokak_, you get NO permissions from dd, it´s just random binary data
[00:45] <celso> Logan: yes, yes, so, if i want to use the intel all the time, just need to remove my ATI driver and use the script that curently is written and its done! :D  oh man, you made my day! :D
[00:45] <Logan_> gogeta: Wait, I think we're talking about two different problems. :-P
[00:45] <sokak_> ryan-
[00:45] <sokak_> oh shi- thats right - im being airheaded there
[00:45] <^Mike> Guest82066: It is supported for longer, and tends to be more stable.
[00:45] <celso> Logan: thanks  a lot!
[00:46] <cap> kfizz: http://www.ubuntugeek.com/ubuntu-networking-configuration-using-command-line.html
[00:46] <Guest82066> I mean how much benefit will there be to upgrade from ocelot to pangolin?
[00:46] <gogeta> celso: what hua use a intel over a ati
[00:46] <Logan_> celso: No problem. :-)
[00:46] <gogeta> Logan_: didnt you say coppy mp4
[00:46] <^Mike> Guest82066: It is very recommended for servers. Less so for desktops
[00:46] <Logan_> gogeta: Doesn't heat up as much, better battery life (I'm assuming this is a laptop).
[00:46] <sokak_> Lint, i guess i was focusing on the scale right in front of me without realizing i was sitting on a bigger scale
[00:46] <krej> Hello. I just installed 12.04 amd64 on my desktop and it didn't automatically add Windows to grub. How can I fix that?
[00:46] <Guest82066> also what advantage is there for running a 64 bit os rather than 32
[00:46] <Logan_> gogeta: No...
[00:46] <Tiktalik> I'm gonna make a starbound logo vector
[00:47] <celso> Logan: But curently need to check if it will work on my acer 3820tg but will going to do it now :D  thanks again Logan!
[00:47] <gogeta> Logan_: mine is all ati it just goes real low power
[00:47] <acalbaza> why is the login window resolution so large in 12.04?
[00:47] <Tiktalik> Guest82066, you can use more ram
[00:47] <Logan_> gogeta: Ah.
[00:47] <Tiktalik> 32 bit OSes have a limit of 4gb
[00:47] <gogeta> Logan_: same for my nibida gtx laptop
[00:47] <Logan_> celso: There's a way to check.
[00:47] <gogeta> nivida\
[00:47] <zykotick9> krej: from a terminal try "sudo update-grub" and see if it automatically adds it.
[00:47] <^Mike> Guest82066: It depends on what you need from your OS. Do you need newer versions of applications? Then you'll benefit.
[00:47] <Tiktalik> 64 bit OSes have a ridiculously high limit
[00:47] <celso> Logan: How?
[00:47] <BrianH> Hey guys, just updated my Ubuntu 11.10 system to 12.04, and now all the font is white ... Any quick fixes?
[00:47] <^Mike> Guest82066: you should run an OS that matches your hardware's architecture
[00:47] <Lint> What should I do to enable gnome-shell?
[00:48] <sokak_> i do agree Tiktalik, im running ridiculous amounts of vms alltogheter atm
[00:48] <hashbrowncipher> BrianH: I had that issue.  I went to the Appearance tab of the control center
[00:48] <hashbrowncipher> and changed the theme, and it worked out
[00:48] <the-erm> Lint: I think you have to log out, and select a gnome 3 session.
[00:48] <Tiktalik> sokak_: I have 8 gb in here
[00:48] <VvWolverinevV> hello, i accidentally cancelled an upgrade from a live CD, after rebooting, i get (initramfs) prompt, is it possible to recover?
[00:48] <Logan_> celso: Er, actually, there isn't. I guess you just have to test it out.
[00:48] <sokak_> Tiktalik, i know the feeling bro
[00:48] <Loonatic> Wow that Xorg turn out to be quite a project lol
[00:48] <Guest82066> ^mike can you tell me more about making sure my os 'matches' my architecture?
[00:48] <Lint> it segfaults
[00:48] <krej> zykotick9, I ran that and it said it found a linux, initrd, and memtest86+ image, but it doesn't look like it found Windows.
[00:48] <ManuelSantana> Lint seach for it in the software center
[00:49] <^Mike> Guest82066: If you have 64 bit processor, you should use a 64 bit OS.
[00:49] <celso> Logan: No problem.  I will check the batery life.  going to try it now! :D  thanks ;)
[00:49] <zykotick9> krej: sorry man, that's my only suggestion.  good luck.
[00:49] <Guest82066> ok how do i find out if i have a 64 bit processor?
[00:49] <Logan_> celso: But, once that script is added, you can run "cat /sys/kernel/debug/vgaswitcheroo/switch" upon boot to see which card is enabled.
[00:49] <gogeta> Guest82066: any intel core is 64bit
[00:49] <Lint> search for what? gnome-shell-which-doesn´t-segfaults?
[00:49] <cap> Guest82066: cat /proc/cpuinfo
[00:49] <krej> Darn. Does anyone else know how I can add Windows to GRUB when Ubuntu 12.04 didn't do it itself?
[00:49] <sokak_> ^Mike, i totally agree but i will still continue to keep a 32 bit usb stick - no more messing with getlibs just to have audio in adobe air games
[00:49] <Logan_> celso: You should hypothetically see IGD: Pwr and DIS: off
[00:50] <^Mike> Guest82066: Technically, you are probably okay to use either 32 or 64 bits with newer processors. In that case, you should use 64 bit if you have >4GB of RAM.
[00:50] <BrianH> hashbrowncipher, awesome, thanks :)
[00:50] <^Mike> Guest82066: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/32bit_and_64bit
[00:50] <ManuelSantana> Guest82066: try lshw command, it will tell you everything about your machine
[00:50] <gogeta> Guest82066: intel core serise all amd x2 all 64bit
[00:50] <gogeta> and up
[00:50] <Fyodorovna> Kreaz, try sudo update-grub in ubuntu
[00:51] <arand> krej: does "sudo os-prober" find it?
[00:51] <celso> Logan: ok. i will check :)  brb
[00:51] <Fyodorovna> krej, try sudo update-grub in ubuntu
[00:51] <krej> arand: that showed no results at all
[00:51] <VvWolverinevV> hello, i accidentally cancelled an upgrade from a live CD. after rebooting, i get an (initramfs) prompt; is it possible to recover?
[00:52] <mrp> can anyone help wth byobu and putty stacking accross the screen? see this picture http://i.imgur.com/NQrm2.jpg
[00:52] <sokak_> just curious - anyone here had the chance to try an amd bulldozer? is it worthy to switch from a phenom x6?
[00:52] <krej> Fyodorovna, i tried that but it didn't find a windows image or anything
[00:52] <Lint> What should I do to enable gnome-shell (i installed the package, but it´s useless)?
[00:52] <bazhang> sokak_, try in ##hardware
[00:52] <Guest82066> i just tried upgrading to pangolin which resulted in having to delete all partitions and reinstall ocelot. is there any reason why pangolin should have not completed installation?
[00:52] <sokak_> good point, ty bazhang
[00:52] <Fyodorovna> krej, did you remove any windows partitions for this install?
[00:52] <gogeta> mrp: type clear
[00:53] <ManuelSantana> Lint logout and select it as the default shell
[00:53] <sokak_> Lint, it doesnt show up as an option on login screen?
[00:53] <Fyodorovna> krej, like the boot partition for windows that is?
[00:53] <bazhang> Lint, if you wish support then give some actual error messages/details
[00:53] <zeeno> krej, try update-grub2 then see if it's entered in the grub.cfg file
[00:53] <bazhang> !work | Lint
[00:53] <barxool> sokak_> I read several review before buying a new CPU and bulldozer was not worthy
[00:53] <krej> Fyodorovna, I don't think I removed the boot partition. I installed Windows to its own partition, then made a new one for Ubuntu and installed it there. I don't think I removed anything
[00:53] <sokak_> ty barxool
[00:53] <Lint> bazhang, it just doesn´t run and segfaults when gnome-shell is started manually
[00:54] <zeeno> Lint, after you apt-getted that, you'll have the  gnome-classic option on the gear icon (logon screen)
[00:54] <barxool> sokak_> got a X6 1090T, works like a charm
[00:54] <bazhang> Lint, give us the FULL details of your setup
[00:54] <krej> zeeno: update-grub2 only found linux images again. no windows ones
[00:54] <u-haul> Hey all - can anyone give me a little bit of help with networking in Ubuntu 11.10 Server? It is a HP Proliant Microserver, and the ethernet is /directly/ connected to a PS3. The ethernet works if the PS3 is on when the HP is switched on and if the PS3 is switched on after the HP is switched on. If the PS3 is switched off and then on again while the HP is on, the network goes down (understandably)
[00:54] <u-haul> but then doesn't come back up when the PS3 comes back. A manual network restart is required.
[00:54] <u-haul> Any ideas?
[00:54] <Lint> bazhang, it´s plain kubuntu 12.04
[00:55] <sokak_> 1100t here, so ill keep sticking with that barxool, just found a lovely way to dd > 7z partitions before messing
[00:55] <u-haul> My Google-fu evades me on this one. :(
[00:55] <gogeta> u-haul: network conflict
[00:55] <zeeno> krej, so make a custom rule for update-grub2
[00:55] <krej> zeeno: how do you do that? Doing things manually with grub2 has always been hard for me.
[00:56] <gogeta> u-haul: maybe the ps3 is not sending a dhcp request
[00:56] <zeeno> krej, you can probably make a copy of the rule from another edition, if you want to give up on that, you can try to edit grub.cfg directly and add the few lines needed..
[00:56] <sokak_> stupid question, with pangoline, there is actually a way to have a full hd login screen poking at grub2 with startup manager or do i have to get my hands dirty with config files manually?
[00:56] <gogeta> u-haul: also if you put the ps3 on a diffrent subnet they will not conflict with both on at the same time
[00:57] <zeeno> krej, thing is update scripts would overwrite grub.cfg.. so thats why its better to have a custom rule somewhere in /etc/grub?/
[00:57] <Fyodorovna> krej, easiest way for me to look at it is with the bootscript download from here and extract to the desktop and run the command and post in a pastebin.  http://sourceforge.net/projects/bootinfoscript/      sudo bash ~/Desktop/bootinfoscript
[00:57] <u-haul> gogeta: Yeah, I was thinking about putting the PS3 on another subnet.
[00:57] <szal> [02:57:14] <Helper> [Distrowatch] Distribution Release: Xubuntu 12.04
[00:58] <naryfa> sokak_: isn't there an app for that in repos?
[00:58] <mrp> gogeta: makes no difference
[00:58] <ManuelSantana> any good GUI frontend for ufw?
[00:58] <Logan_> ManuelSantana: I think there's one called gufw, but I could be wrong.
[00:58] <gogeta> mrp: does it do it in unity 2d i wonder if its a compiz glitch or video driver
[00:58] <u-haul> Thanks gogeta, I will have a bit more of a play with the network settings and see what I can come up with. :)
[00:59] <Logan_> !info gufw | ManuelSantana
[00:59] <Logan_> I was right. :-P
[00:59] <gogeta> u-haul: its probly a conflict as you said one goes down with the other on
[00:59] <mrp> gogeta: this is via ssh via putty on windows
[00:59] <sokak_> naryfa, im moving from maverick to pangoline right now (finishing the download) with maverick, i managed to have gdm working in full yhd, but the splash screen was still displaying an ugly terminal if you pressed down arrow while booting, or during shutdown (oversized fonts overlapping making everything difficult to read)
[00:59] <krej> Fyodorovna, here is the results of that: http://pastebin.com/9hJVrT9Z
[00:59] <mrp> gogeta: don't have problem with byobu on putty on 10.04
[00:59] <gogeta> mrp: oh that can be bit strange sometimes
[00:59] <ManuelSantana> I'll try it Logan_
[01:00] <ManuelSantana> !info ufw | ManuelSantana
[01:00] <ManuelSantana> A real robot!
[01:00] <Logan_> !bot | ManuelSantana
[01:01] <ManuelSantana> !bot
[01:01] <halakar> wow, nice. virtual box works great
[01:01] <gogeta> halakar: shure does
[01:02] <bazhang> ManuelSantana, /msg ubottu
[01:02] <Logan_> ManuelSantana: Please /msg ubottu to investiage her.
[01:02] <Logan_> *investigate
[01:02] <Scarra3> what periferals should I disconnect from my desktop when installing ubuntu 12.04 LTS?
[01:02] <gogeta> Scarra3: umm not mutch unles you got a usbhdd with a os on it
[01:02] <naryfa> sokak_: maybe there's a way of setting the kms driver to your screen's resolution at bootup, I know you can also adjust the values in grub config at /etc/default/grub, then just update grub. But maybe I'm misunderstanding your need.
[01:02] <mrp> gogeta: know any workarounds?
[01:02] <the-erm> happy crash update day.
[01:02] <sokak_> Scarra3, i would detach anything unneeded, backup all the data (if your home isnt yet on its own partitoon/disk) then take the plunge
[01:02] <krej> Fyodorovna, i just tried creating a custom rule and update-grub found that, so I'm going to go try and see if that worked. I'll be back
[01:03] <gogeta> mrp maybe a new version of putty
[01:03] <sokak_> naryfa, you havent at all. I guess its time for manpages about grub.
[01:03] <mrp> gogeta: am running the latest :(
[01:03] <the-erm> upgrade-manager crashed, but apt-get dist-upgrade seems to be working odd ....
[01:03] <gogeta> Scarra3: you whant it to see evrything to configure it
[01:04] <Scarra3> Sokak: I have a wireless keyboard / mouse / 1TB external / webcam / speakers
[01:04] <gogeta> Scarra3: leave it all
[01:04] <sokak_> naryfa, i guess its just a matter to see if kms can see the max resolutin my screen can do.
[01:04] <Scarra3> And for an ATI Radeon HD 5770 I need to install fglrx right?
[01:04] <Logan_> Scarra3: You don't have to. There's an open source driver that's preinstalled that works well.
[01:04] <gogeta> Scarra3: yes after install it should ask you
[01:05] <gogeta> Logan_: 5x he needs closed for 36
[01:05] <gogeta> 3d
[01:05] <naryfa> sokak_: what's the screen resolution? 1920?
[01:05] <Logan_> gogeta: Oh...
[01:05] <Scarra3> alright thanks everyone I am about to install it lol
[01:05] <sokak_> Scarra3, i do agree with gogeta then, seems nothing exotic is plugged in - go backup and then update heaven
[01:05] <Logan_> gogeta: I have a 6630M, so I wouldn't know. ;-P
[01:05] <sokak_> naryfa, bullseye
[01:06] <gogeta> Logan_: for better 3d you should to
[01:06] <Logan_> gogeta: I don't do gaming on Ubuntu, though. And Unity 3D works smoothly.
[01:06] <gogeta> Logan_: thats a hd 6630 rite
[01:06] <Logan_> gogeta: Correct.
[01:06] <sokak_> naryfa, my gpu is currently a 570 gtx, the monitor is attached to one of the dvi ports
[01:06] <gogeta> Logan_: must have been updated then :) but it will still be slower
[01:07] <Sp][nE> if you want the absolut best performance from your card you must install FGLRX, otherwise the default open source drivers work well enough...
[01:07] <gogeta> Logan_: forgot they relesed the oss driver for  the latest chipsets
[01:07] <Logan_> gogeta: Mmhm.
[01:07] <naryfa> sokak_: wait, are your drivers, that are installed, from nvidia?
[01:08] <gogeta> Logan_: all i got is a old 9200
[01:08] <sokak_> naryfa, again a bullseye. Cant do compiz or good 3d without.
[01:08] <Logan_> gogeta: Every piece of hardware has its merits. :-P
[01:09] <vexaxv> has anyone compiled doom 3 yet?
[01:09] <vexaxv> i have a couple questions so
[01:09] <sokak_> i guess i shall give up and try higher resolutions until i find the max that it can mangle before starting x am i right?
[01:09] <naryfa> sokak_: I know it might take you a while, but try looking at this. http://netsplit.com/2010/03/30/all-about-kernel-mode-setting/
[01:09] <gogeta> sokak_: xrander
[01:10] <naryfa> sokak_: I remember I had an nvidia card and set kms to 1920x1080, but that was in Arch linux.
[01:10] <sokak_> naryfa, thats a really interesting lecture you gave me here. Evaded completely my google-fu. Im diggin
[01:10] <gogeta> sokak_: you can change rez around with that
[01:11] <alien64> anoyone know what style of bot is >>> ubuntu
[01:11] <gogeta> alien64: a irc bot
[01:11] <sokak_> gogeta, xrandr can handle a lot of stuff *upon login*, what im needing here is to have a full resolution grub
[01:11] <zeeno> !blootbot
[01:11] <u-haul> gogeta: Same thing happens when eth0 and PS3 is on a different subnet from WLAN0, and both have statically assigned IP addresses.
[01:12] <u-haul> (both, I mean PS3 and eth0)
[01:12] <gogeta> u-haul: then the ip is in conflict
[01:12] <alien64> gogeta: yes i know infobot supybot etc...
[01:12] <gogeta> u-haul: or the dns lol
[01:13] <gogeta> u-haul: acully yea it could be the dns
[01:13] <u-haul> gogeta: But on the network there are only two devices, directly connected to eachother, on that subnet with statically assigned IP addresses. Everything else on another subnet, and works fine.
[01:13] <u-haul> gogeta: I don't think it's DNS, I can ping IPs withotu a problem.
[01:13] <gogeta> u-haul: then its relly the dns
[01:14] <u-haul> gogeta: Sorry - brain-melt. I /can't/ ping IPs.
[01:14] <ManuelSantana> FloodBot1
[01:14] <gogeta> u-haul: been so long sense i did cat 5 by hand
[01:14] <Logan_> !floodbot | ManuelSantana
[01:14] <jamiejackson> how do print to a mac-connected printer in ubuntu. i have the printer shared on the mac side, but can't figure out what to do on the ubuntu side
[01:14] <gogeta> u-haul: in ubuntu you can simple say use this amchine as host and it does everythin for ya
[01:14] <sokak_> naryfa, i think i've found a direction to run :)
[01:15] <Haywood|Jablome> saywhut
[01:15] <alien64> Logan_: pipe ubuntu to me
[01:15] <naryfa> sokak_: okay then
[01:15] <u-haul> thanks gogeta. I'll keep hunting. :)
[01:15] <naryfa> sokak_: I hope you get it to work
[01:15] <gogeta> u-haul: but on a server i assume by hand
[01:15] <ManuelSantana> How do I find my ip in a simple ubuntu command
[01:15] <Haywood|Jablome> http://www.haxradio.com ~The Stream the FBI Listens too...
[01:15] <sokak_> thanks :)
[01:15] <naryfa> sokak_: no prob
[01:15] <Logan_> alien64: Eh?
[01:15] <jamiejackson> ManuelSantana: ifconfig
[01:16] <gogeta> u-haul: your ip range should also be diffrent
[01:16] <alien64> the bot make him tell me about it
[01:16] <the-erm> ManuelSantana: ifconfig should give you the ip of the machine you're on, but not what the world considers your ip.
[01:16] <sokak_> naryfa, this will help me lots to convert more friends to linux ;) You wouldnt guess how many would just change by seeing a nice splash upon boot :)
[01:16] <Logan_> !ubuntu | alien64
[01:16] <alien64> ty
[01:16] <u-haul> gogeta: Yeah, running 10.0.1.0/24 on eth0 and 192.168.1.0/24 on WLAN0.
[01:16] <ManuelSantana> And how do i change it?
[01:16] <Logan_> alien64: Happy? :-P
[01:16] <alien64> yup
[01:16] <gogeta> u-haul: thats the same
[01:16] <naryfa> sokak_: true, first contact makes the impression
[01:17] <alien64> no
[01:17] <gogeta> u-haul: thats both local ips
[01:17] <u-haul> gogeta: Umm...what?
[01:17] <sokak_> darn, now im eager to see what will be in queztal - and im still just at 70% downloading pangoline xD
[01:17] <u-haul> gogeta: Both need to be local IPs. I don't want routing between the two subnets.
[01:17] <ManuelSantana> easy way to change my ip on ubuntu
[01:17] <alien64> !ubottu
[01:17] <ManuelSantana> ??
[01:17] <jamiejackson> trying to print to a mac's printer from ubuntu. how to connect from the ubuntu side?
[01:17] <jamiejackson> ManuelSantana: from cli?
[01:17] <ManuelSantana> !ubottu die
[01:17] <gogeta> u-haul: thats why they fail
[01:18] <the-erm> ManuelSantana: I'm not sure you can assign a static ip with the network manager applet.
[01:18] <ManuelSantana> yes jamiejackson
[01:18] <Logan_> ManuelSantana: Don't do that, please.
[01:18] <gogeta> u-haul:  the host needs to give it a ip like 192.168.1.2 on a diffrent subnet
[01:18] <gridbug> Hey guys.  Started the upgrade to 12.04... thought I'd cancel and download the alternative CD via torrent instead... fire up the cdromupgrade.. select no network... still wants to pull packages from the network.  What am I missing?
[01:18] <gogeta> u-haul: with the dns of your isp on both machines
[01:18] <jamiejackson> ManuelSantana: i don't like setting up network interfaces from cli, but http://www.ubuntugeek.com/ubuntu-networking-configuration-using-command-line.html
[01:19] <Haywood|Jablome> http://www.haxradio.com ~The Stream the FBI Listens too...  SHUT UP AND SUCK OUR COCKS
[01:19] <alien64> ubottu=supybot
[01:19] <IdleOne> !language | Haywood|Jablome
[01:19] <Viman> hi, I'm updating 11.10 to Precise from the NORMAL CD. The installation has hung at "restoring previously installed packages." Anyone know what to do here?
[01:19] <u-haul> gogeta: I don't want the PS3, nor eth0, to be goign near the internet.
[01:19] <gogeta> u-haul: the gateway will be the ip of the host
[01:19] <awwa> hi, what binary launches the HUD in unity2d?
[01:19] <u-haul> gogeta: It's purely for serving data to the PS3.
[01:19] <ManuelSantana> let's see jamiejackson
[01:19] <sokak_> nite everyone, and thanks for the great tips :)
[01:19] <Logan_> Night sokak_. :-)
[01:19] <gogeta> u-haul: then dont give it a dns
[01:19] <gogeta> u-hu
[01:19] <naryfa> sokak_: g'nite
[01:19] <BoyBlunder> 10 things to do after install 12.04. go!
[01:20] <IdleOne> !ot | BoyBlunder
[01:20] <gogeta> u-haul: with with that setup they should get along
[01:20] <BoyBlunder> thanks IdleOne
[01:20] <schultza> oh lovely.... installed 12.04 and now have a error: no such partition..... at grub rescue> prompt
[01:20] <Bennlucky7> 1 thing to do before install 12.04
[01:20] <Lint> Viman, just cancel this step and install the grub manually
[01:20] <gogeta> u-haul: on the host the gateway will just be the local ip
[01:21] <Bennlucky7> uninstall other os
[01:21] <Viman> Lint - Just like that?
[01:21] <BoyBlunder> schultza, can you boot to live cd?
[01:21] <schultza> yes
[01:21] <Viman> Bennlucky7: I've got no other OS innit
[01:21] <schultza> hang on
[01:21] <BoyBlunder> schultza, what does gparted say?
[01:21] <Bennlucky7> Viman:  me too :-D
[01:21] <schultza> hang on
[01:21] <BoyBlunder> k
[01:22] <ManuelSantana> very nice jamiejackson
[01:22] <Viman> Lint: I can't cancel the installation, unless I hard reset. Is this it?
[01:22] <the-erm> ManuelSantana: http://bit.ly/NbDsj apparently you need to edit /etc/network/interfaces and restart the network via /etc/init.d/networking restart
[01:22] <gogeta> u-haul: the easy way is to set it up like any shared host then tell ufw the ip from the ps3 it not allowed outside the network that will effectly block it from the net
[01:22] <ManuelSantana> There's nothing like to chat on IRC on a cold rainy night
[01:22] <Lint> Viman, if it HARD locked, and you cannot access the consoles, then reboot
[01:23] <ManuelSantana> thanks the-erm
[01:23] <Viman> Lint: how should I install grub afterwards?
[01:23] <ManuelSantana> It's raining a lot in here: La Romana, Dominican Republic.
[01:24] <ManuelSantana> sudo etc/hostname myhost : should change my hostname?
[01:24] <itaylor57> i love bonao
[01:24] <ManuelSantana> sudo /etc/hostname myhost : should change my hostname?
[01:24] <terry_math> Dominican Republic,in central America??
[01:24] <Lint> Viman, it should be already installed, just dpkg-reconfigure the latest kernel you have installed
[01:24] <ManuelSantana> or do I have to become too before?
[01:24] <BoyBlunder> ManuelSantana, sudo nano /etc/hostname
[01:24] <BoyBlunder> or gedit
[01:24] <BoyBlunder> if you're at gui
[01:24] <ManuelSantana> terry_math: Caribbean
[01:25] <Viman> Lint: thanks
[01:25] <ManuelSantana> BoyBlunder: but isn't there a command?
[01:25] <terry_math> are you a pirate??haha
[01:25] <the-erm> ManuelSantana: if you edit /etc/hostname I believe that will change the hostname.  you can also sudo hostname <new-name>
[01:25] <bc``> does anyone know how to use gpt partitioning?  my 3tb drive is only showing up as 2tb, and I was told to look there, but I can't find any good reference sites on how to go about doing it
[01:26] <ManuelSantana> Ahh sudo hostname !!
[01:26] <BoyBlunder> bc``, gparted?
[01:26] <ManuelSantana> I'm not a pirate but I do pirate software and other stuff sometimes :)
[01:27] <ActionParsnip> ManuelSantana: you will aso need to edit /etc/hosts   so that the system can resolve its hostname to 127.0.0.1
[01:27] <ludwin01> i want to upgrade from 10.04 to 12.04
[01:27] <ActionParsnip> ManuelSantana: or sudo will not work anymore
[01:27] <ActionParsnip> !upgrade | ludwin01
[01:28] <BoyBlunder> ludwin01, sudo apt-get install dist-upgrade
[01:28] <the-erm> I've never heard of gpt.
[01:28] <ludwin01> thanks @ubottu
[01:28] <Logan_> !thanks | ludwin01
[01:28] <Logan_> deadmund: No bots in here, please.
[01:28] <ManuelSantana> ActionParsnip: I dont understand what you meant
[01:29] <ludwin01> nevermind
[01:29] <ActionParsnip> ManuelSantana: both /etc/hostname and /etc/hosts need changing together
[01:29] <Viman> Lint: I cannot boot my operating system.
[01:30] <ManuelSantana> So i just can't "sudo hostname <new hostname>"?
[01:30] <Viman> Lint: I don't think grub is installed
[01:30] <ActionParsnip> ManuelSantana: open both /etc/hosts and /etc/hosts    and then make the change
[01:30] <Viman> any thoughts on how I can do so?
[01:30] <schultza> ok... gparted says ... /dev/sda3 ext4
[01:30]  * ManuelSantana says: I just wanted to avoid the editing!!
[01:31] <marcm> has suhosin finally been removed from Ubuntu 12.04?
[01:31] <gogeta> Viman: you can try to reinstall it threw the live cd
[01:31] <Viman> gogeta: fascinating - how?
[01:31] <ManuelSantana> BTW Opera's built-in IRC client rocks...it is what I'm using.
[01:32] <ManuelSantana> Thank you anyway ActionParsnip
[01:32] <gridbug> Hey guys - trying to do a cdromupgrade via alternative CD w/ no network and it's insisting on pulling packages from the network - any ideas why?
[01:32] <gogeta> Viman: !grub
[01:32] <gogeta> lol
[01:32] <nina666> hi... im trying to setup vmware on my machine, but i get errors on compiling modules and this is the vmware log: http://pastebin.com/xsBPmbmn
[01:32] <Fyodorovna> !grub | Viman
[01:32] <nina666> any ideas how to solve this issue?
[01:32] <gogeta> i fail at formating
[01:33] <gridbug> nina666: in the past, I've had to run the vmware patch.... eventually I just moved to vbox.
[01:33] <sk1special> okay. im having 3 issues. and im assuming theyre all tied together. im getting this error message > Xlib:  extension "RANDR" missing on display ":0.0"  ; all of window menus have that windows 98 look. ie flat grey blocky ; and when i hit the workspace button while i can change workspaces i can not drap and drop windows from one to the other.
[01:33] <nina666> gridbug: is vbox more compatible you mean than vmware?
[01:33] <gogeta> nina666: virtualbox these days is faster then vmware anyways
[01:34] <schultza> grub rescue issue -... i do have a /dev/sda3 for ext4
[01:34] <lystra_> Installing 12.04 on a server. The server has two disks, sda and sdb. 11.10 is already installed on sdb in VG trunks. Booted the -server ISO and selected Guided LVM setup: http://www.lystra.org/1.png. Then selected sda disk http://www.lystra.org/2.png. Why does the next screen say it will format a partition on hdb if I selected sda: http://www.lystra.org/3.png?
[01:34] <celthunder> nina666: virtualbox and vmware are meant for 2 different user bases
[01:34] <gridbug> nina666: yeah... vbox is in the repo so it doesn't require patches to keep up with the latest / greatest kernal image
[01:34] <zoombuggy> unity-music-daemon keeps dying with SIGSEVs, apparently it's a known bug. Should I remove it for the moment?
[01:34] <gridbug> nina666: vbox worked well for my uses and I didn't go back to vmware... but YMMV.
[01:35] <nina666> celthunder: i only need to setup virtual machines... the job that vmware player does
[01:35] <gogeta> nina666: just rember the one in the repo does lack d3d and usb support if you need those get it from the website
[01:35] <nina666> gridbug: i see... thanks :)
[01:35] <nina666> gogeta: noted. thanks alot :)
[01:36] <Athanasius> Is there a hotkey for rotating the screen 90 degrees?
[01:37] <cute_bettong> how do you kill a zombie process?
[01:37] <gogeta> Athanasius: i dont think so but why
[01:37] <zoombuggy> cute: reboot, I suspect
[01:37] <cute_bettong> darn i was hopeing to avoid that
[01:38] <gogeta> cute_bettong: lots of ways but sudo killall prossesname
[01:38] <Athanasius> gogeta: because I'm using a netbook and it'd be nice to easily rotate the screen for if I want to say, have it on its side to easily display a recipe or something
[01:38] <arand> cute_bettong: There's often ways around it.
[01:38] <zoombuggy> there isn't really a way to avoid it if it's already under init's care.
[01:39] <cute_bettong> gogeta, would that be like sudo killall <pid>?
[01:39] <cute_bettong> clear
[01:40] <gogeta> cute_bettong: pid is just kill
[01:40] <aaas> Athanasius i dont suppose you have nvidia or ati in that netbook
[01:40] <bsmith093> can i go from lucid to the new one straight?
[01:40] <gogeta> cute_bettong: like kill 19265
[01:40] <Athanasius> nope, no fancy drivers :(
[01:40] <szal> bsmith093: that is supported, yes.. no idea on the success rate though
[01:40] <bsmith093> how?
[01:41] <gogeta> cute_bettong: if you did killall firefox it would kill all firefox prosses
[01:41] <cute_bettong> gogeta, yea thats what i did but the process still remains
[01:41] <szal> !upgrade | bsmith093
[01:41] <ManuelSantana> good night to you all!
[01:41] <aaas> Athanasius yeah this is usually acomplished at the video driver level, get a tablet? ;)
[01:41] <rinzler> installing from a tarball, and make isn't doing anything...
[01:41] <cute_bettong> oh never mind
[01:41] <cute_bettong> top diden't update XD
[01:41] <bsmith093> the update manager doesnt see the new version it just sees 10.10
[01:41] <ManuelSantana> see you later and thanks for your help
[01:41] <gogeta> cute_bettong: you try killing it with the id?
[01:41] <cute_bettong> gogeta, yea the process is dead now thank you ^_^
[01:42] <szal> bsmith093: does your mirror already carry Precise? if not, just wait a day or two
[01:42] <ApocGoD> Mine does, but i'm wondering if I should upgrade yet.
[01:42] <gogeta> cute_bettong: oh and if its a gui app you can do it with xkill and just click the frozen app
[01:43] <cute_bettong> gogeta, how do i use xkill? never knew about that function
[01:43] <gogeta> alt f2 then xkill
[01:43] <ManuelSantana> version
[01:43] <szal> btw, any info yet as to when Maverick support will terminate?
[01:44] <terry_math> ManuelSantana:hello!!
[01:44] <ManuelSantana> hi terry_math
[01:44] <zoombuggy> cute_bettong: glad to know you got your process killed, i've not been successful with that.
[01:44] <yuri__> Does anyone know of a good dvd authoring program for kubuntu?! :( I tried DVD Styler and it freezes half way through the render process, always. I tried that 'q'dvdauthor goodie and it wouldn't compile, I tried dvdauthor and got lost treying to make a dvd through the console. :(
[01:45] <zoombuggy> anyhow, bye...
[01:46] <sk1special> anyone know how to manually cut off xinerama in nvidia settings? instead of just using the nvidia control panel..because it doesnt actually save
[01:46] <rinzler> trying to install from a tarball, and make says No targets specified and no makefile found.  Stop. Any Ideas?
[01:47] <aaas> rinzler is there  Makefile in the directory
[01:47] <hnsz> try running it with sudo
[01:47] <nina666> ok.. i downloaded the vbox from the website, run it with package installer. shows this: Error: Dependency is not satisfiable: lipython2.7...
[01:47] <the-erm> sk1special: I think if you run the nvidia control panel as root it will save, but I'm not sure.
[01:47] <rinzler> aaas: two different ones. different extentions...
[01:48] <sk1special> how do i do that? new to linux
[01:48] <gogeta> nina666: sounds like its not updated for 12.04 yet
[01:48] <nina666> actually mine is 10.04
[01:48] <Athanasius> aaas: If you'd like to contribute to my tablet fund, feel free to paypal money over to william.heimbigner@gmail.com ;)
[01:48] <aaas> rinzler shouldn't have an extention...read the README or the INSTALL file the process may be different
[01:48] <arand> cute_bettong: Normal kill might work, but the last resort is normally to attch to the parent (e.g. via gdb) and call waitpid on the child
[01:48] <aaas> Athanasius ahah you wish
[01:48] <Athanasius> also, ubuntu 12.04 on asus transformer prime would be amazing
[01:48] <gogeta> nina666: oh
[01:48] <nina666> gogeta: and i did download the one for 10.04
[01:49] <the-erm> sk1special: I wish I could tell you try going to a terminal and typing sudo nvidia<tab><tab> and see if something comes up.
[01:49] <rinzler> aaas: install file says "./configure, make, make install" should do it.
[01:49] <Pintballr9003> has anybody seen "E: could not perform immediate configuration on 'python-minimal' during the 12.04 upgrade?  I'm coming up from lucid
[01:49] <nina666> gogeta: i think the lack is from my side, not vbox... how should i check my libpython
[01:49] <aaas> rinzler and configure finishes without hitches
[01:49] <aaas> rinzler what program is this
[01:50] <gogeta> nina666: the package manager should grait if its avable
[01:50] <gogeta> grab
[01:50] <aaas> rinzler can you send me a link to the download
[01:50] <rinzler> aaas: TLP II for TI calc connection...
[01:50] <xangua> can't get the notification in the Update Manager for upgrade to pangolin from lucid, any thing i should do¿ using main the server repository
[01:50] <Athanasius> meep. mkfs.ntfs on my sd card and pretty much the whole desktop locks up :<
[01:50] <nina666> gogeta: and it didnt... seems like im stock in no where... :(
[01:50] <rinzler> aaas: http://www.ticalc.org/archives/files/fileinfo/374/37480.html
[01:50] <gogeta> nina666: normaly that means its looking for something not in the repos you got all of them on correect
[01:50] <sk1special> yeah just says command not found. hmm
[01:51] <nina666> downloaded from website... could that be the reason?
[01:51] <nina666> gogeta: downloaded from website... could that be the reason?
[01:52] <gogeta> nina666: yea i think it is it should work if it said for 10.10
[01:52] <yuri__> Does anyone know of a good dvd authoring program for kubuntu?! :( I tried DVD Styler and it freezes half way through the render process, always. I tried that 'q'dvdauthor goodie and it wouldn't compile, I tried dvdauthor and got lost treying to make a dvd through the console. :(
[01:52] <nina666> gogeta, ok im downloading libpython 3.1 using kpackagekit...
[01:53] <aaas> rinzler did you get something at the end that sid 'no package...found'
[01:53] <ruffleS> guys there's this bug on unity where mouse cursor doesn't follow window accordingly when dragging a window out of "aerosnap maximization". i can't find the bug report on launchpad so i can +1 it
[01:53] <rinzler> aaas: at the end of....?
[01:53] <gogeta> nina666: oh it seems as for 4.0 they moved to non-free
[01:53] <aaas> rinzler configure
[01:53] <gogeta> nina666: so th one in the repos will be the same so just apt-get it :)
[01:54] <nina666> gogeta: oh... still same thing... looks like it cannot handle higher versions actually
[01:54] <nina666> gogeta: oki thanks ;)
[01:54] <jasonbourne> have a question if anyone can help....
[01:54] <gogeta> nina666: even better they have there own repo you can add
[01:54] <rinzler> aaas: ahhh... this might do it: "configure: error: Package requirements (ticables2 >= 1.3.0) were not met"
[01:54] <sk1special> okay. sudo nvidia-xconfig gives me a list that lists the config backup and new x file
[01:55] <atealtha> anyone who is familiar with amazon AWS: the AMI for Pangolin says released two days ago before the official release date. Should I assume these are still beta and that I should wait it out?
[01:55] <nina666> gogeta: where
[01:55] <aaas> rinzler yes try apt-get install libticables-dev
[01:55] <sk1special> like New X configuration file written to '/etc/X11/xorg.conf'
[01:55] <gogeta> nina666: wget -q http://download.virtualbox.org/virtualbox/debian/oracle_vbox.asc -O- | sudo apt-key add -
[01:55] <gogeta> nina666: then just apt-get update
[01:55] <nina666> gogeta: thanks! ;)
[01:55] <Jen> jasonbourne: try just asking your question, and if people are around who can answer it, you'll generally get an answer
[01:56] <Waraudon> I'm guessing the repository mirrors are getting hit pretty hard right now
[01:56] <rinzler> aaas: see if that works out. Thanks!
[01:56] <jasonbourne> does anyone know how to hide the sidebar in 12.04LTS?
[01:56] <cordoval> hi i just messed up my install of ubuntu 11.10
[01:56] <jasonbourne> it used to hide automatically...now it doesn't...
[01:56] <aaas> rinzler yeah just keep goign through installing the libraries the config script asks...alternatively larn about auto-apt run ./configure
[01:56] <sinichiro> Is anyone here using Gameranger?
[01:56] <cordoval> the graphics failed and i had tu turn machine off
[01:56] <gogeta> nina666: then you should be able to grab the latest version :)
[01:56] <cordoval> what can i do now, everytime i try to turn on the machine it failed with a message like git id unknown
[01:57] <rinzler> aaas: cool. Thanks!
[01:57] <yuri__> exorcise it, cordoval. Worked for mine. ;)
[01:57] <cordoval> it did downloaded the whole thing but it did not finish i think
[01:57] <nina666> gogeta: thx for the instructions... :)
[01:57] <cordoval> please tell me the steps
[01:57] <cordoval> I am in a try CD
[01:58] <sinichiro> jasonbourne, Ubuntu Tweak allows to do that among everything else
[01:58] <ruffleS> can anyone help me out here? i'd like to know whether or not this bug's been reported already. when you "aerosnap" a window to the sides and then try to move it out of its position window goes way bellow mouse cursor. (on ubuntu 12.04 unity)
[01:58] <jasonbourne> is that an add-on, sinichiro??
[01:58] <cordoval> please beg you help me
[01:58] <Waraudon> Is it possible to change repository mirrors after installation?
[01:58] <gogeta> jasonbourne: i think the myunity app can tweak all the settings
[01:58] <gogeta> Waraudon: shure
[01:58] <sinichiro> no, it's a separate problem for advanced Ubuntu settings, jasonbourne
[01:58] <schultza> how do i fix my ubuntu installation (grub not finding partition) it's there?
[01:59] <Pintballr9003> I'm in the middle of a 10.04 to 12.04 upgrade and got the same error on all four of my test machines: "Could not perform immediate configuration on 'python2.7-minimal'.  Please see man 5 apt.conf under APT::Immediate-configure for details (2)"  That section header doesn't exist.  Any ideas on where to look?
[01:59] <Athanasius> The Kernel OOM killer went apeshit >:(
[01:59] <sinichiro> lol, separate "program" rather, jasonbourne
[01:59] <Waraudon> The US mirror is really not working at all, so I'm going to have to use a different one during installation
[01:59] <jasonbourne> where do I find it??
[01:59] <cordoval> please help me my ubuntu 12.04 is not booting up
[01:59] <xangua> Can't get the notification in the Update Manager for upgrade to pangolin from lucid, any thing i should do¿ using main the server repository
[01:59] <gogeta> Pintballr9003: i dont think thats even in 12.04 does it kill your upgrade?
[02:00] <Pintballr9003> gogeta: Yes.
[02:00] <ruffleS> cordoval: what's wrong?
[02:00] <nina666> gogeta: the package name should be virtualbox, right?
[02:00] <gogeta> Pintballr9003: for me it was not installed untill i rmoved liber
[02:00] <sinichiro> myunity is in Software Center, jasonbourne. Ubuntu Tweak you can google and download.
[02:00] <gogeta> libre
[02:00] <gogeta> nina666: yea
[02:00] <jasonbourne> ok....domo arigato!!
[02:00] <quickquestion232> is the entire ubuntu community swamped by idiots like me that ruined their computers trying to install the new edition?
[02:00] <cordoval> ruffleS: it does not boot
[02:00] <gogeta> nina666: virtualbox-4.1
[02:01] <cordoval> it says something like git id unknown
[02:01] <szal> quickquestion232: define 'ruined', and how you went about to do so
[02:01] <ruffleS> cordoval: any error message appearing on your screen?
[02:01] <PSR_B1057> help me with hybrid graphic card - ATI and Intel
[02:01] <cordoval> is there a way to fix it I am currently typing on the CD try
[02:01] <sinichiro> So no gameranger users at all?
[02:01] <cordoval> ruffleS: yes
[02:01] <cordoval> what i just said, git id not recognized or unknown
[02:01] <nina666> gogeta: its weired.. it cannot find the package
[02:01] <gogeta> nina666: its virtualbox-4.1
[02:01] <cordoval> while bringing the services up
[02:02] <quickquestion232> szal: im working on it now, but i deleted a couple of old linux partitions and apparently one of them contained a dual boot screen that was more deeply rooted than i thought it was
[02:02] <nina666> gogeta: yea, apt-get install virtualbox-4.1
[02:02] <nina666> gogeta: coudlnt find package....
[02:02] <gogeta> nina666: didnt fine it?
[02:02] <PSR_B1057> Help needed with hybrid graphics on HP laptop - ATI and Intel
[02:02] <gogeta> nina666: did you apt-get update
[02:02] <nina666> yes
[02:02] <gogeta> nina666: i say just try toinstall the deb again
[02:02] <szal> quickquestion232: the way you put it, that sounds like a severe case of PEBKAC ;)
[02:02] <ruffleS> cordoval: have you checked your image md5? that might help
[02:03] <nina666> gogeta: ok :)
[02:03] <gogeta> nina666: with the new repo it should grab what you need
[02:03] <cordoval> how to do that ruffleS
[02:03] <quickquestion232> lol
[02:03] <quickquestion232> most likely
[02:03] <ruffleS> cordoval: are you on linux now?
[02:03] <cordoval> yes on ubuntu 10.10 32 bit version though, the cD try
[02:03] <quickquestion232> it was my fault, but its messsed up regardless
[02:03] <nina666> gogeta: nope.. same problem..
[02:03] <quickquestion232> ive created a larger problem, so to speak :p
[02:03] <cordoval> this is a 64 bit machine with 12.04 broken
[02:03] <ruffleS> cordoval: the command is: md5sum imagefile.iso
[02:04] <gogeta> nina666: humm
[02:04] <Pintballr9003> gogeta: removed what?  libre?
[02:04] <ruffleS> cordoval: you can try it then compare with official md5 on the download page
[02:04] <gogeta> Pintballr9003: yea python was not even installed untill i did that
[02:04] <cordoval> ruffleS: that is on the hard disk right? wonder how to mount the disk to do such command and where do i find that iso image
[02:05] <cordoval> oh so your concern is if the file downloaded it ok
[02:05] <Waraudon> Where is Ubuntu "loading additional components" from during installation?
[02:05] <cordoval> because i think the failure ruffleS  happened after that
[02:05] <ruffleS> cordoval: vc é brasileiro, certo? vá pra o #ubuntu-br que a gente te ajuda
[02:05] <szal> !br | ruffleS
[02:06] <cordoval> ruffleS: i speak spanish and english, better english
[02:06] <PSR_B1057> any help with hybrid graphic card ?
[02:06] <quickquestion232> what should i use to make a boot usb for a windows on a mac?
[02:07] <Pintballr9003> Gogeta: It doesn't look like anything called libre is installed
[02:08] <fizk_> yaaaay, Ubuntu 12.04!
[02:08] <Pintballr9003> I'm running server edition
[02:08] <gogeta> nina666: humm why are you missing python
[02:08] <naryfa> so what's up
[02:08] <E3D3> I was 'to brave' to upgrade to the Beta-version but couldn't work with it. So I waited for the RC. Will I have my good trustworthy Ubuntu back when I let Update-manager download another 700 MB ? Is that all I have to do ? 4.3-1ubuntu4 --> 4.3-1ubuntu5 ?
[02:08] <xangua> i can get the 10.10 notification aviable from Lucid, but when i change in Update Mnanager setting to upgrade only from LTS to LTS can't get the upgrade notification for Pangolin, whan can i do¿
[02:08] <gogeta> nina666: oh you should be able to search virtualbox in your favret package manager now
[02:08] <gogeta> nina666: that will find it heh
[02:08] <nina666> gogeta: ok maybe i should state this out here :D i am actually using backtrack as my OS... but the distro (/etc/lsb-release) is ubuntu 10.04 :D
[02:08] <taxman> lol
[02:09] <taxman> my 12.04 works
[02:09] <gogeta> nina666: heh
[02:09] <Waraudon> Welp, that answers my question. apparently it uses the package mirror if an Internet connection is available. Of course, I'm getting a read error from my USB drive :/
[02:09] <nina666> gogeta: :D
[02:09] <CaptainKnots> hey, I have both firefox and chromium installed on 12.04 and I'm not getting an indicator for either one on the unity launcher
[02:10] <Pintballr9003> nina666: backtrack is hardened and customized, I would go to the remote-exploit IRC channel and ask there
[02:10] <gogeta> CaptainKnots: mine was incis untill reboot
[02:10] <allure> hi... I'm trying to update to 12.04, but I've set some packages to "hold" and can't remember which ones... I have to unset them before updating, but how do I find out which ones are on hold?
[02:10] <gogeta> invis
[02:11] <nina666> Pintballr9003: the problem is that channel is not active and i got no responses... since /etc/lsb-release gives ubuntu, figured i can ask here..
[02:11] <naryfa> allure: how about synaptic
[02:11] <naryfa> allure: it won't show?
[02:11] <naryfa> allure: under upgradable
[02:11] <allure> naryfa: hmmm I never use synaptic, so I don't know. Normally use apt-get or aptitude.. will check, 1 min :)
[02:11] <Viman> Hello I'm trying to reinstall grub as described in the documentation, but it doesn't seem to work. Can anybody help me?
[02:11] <gogeta> Pintballr9003: i had libreoffice installed and when i removed it it installed python
[02:12] <gogeta> Pintballr9003: maybe your getting the same and its messing with the upgrader
[02:12] <iHarp> ok.. So how am I supposed to install video drivers if Xserver gets in the way?
[02:12] <Pintballr9003> gogeta: The only application installed on these boxes is paraview, they are part of a visualization cluster running 10.04 server edition.
[02:13] <gogeta> Pintballr9003: just odd its complaning abought a fackage it does not even include by defult
[02:13] <Viman> Hello, I'm trying to run boot-repair (https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Boot-Repair) but I keep getting the message to quit synaptic even though it's not running. Can anybody help me?
[02:13] <PSR_B1057> ATI drivers not being installed on hybrid graphic card on HP laptop.. Hybrid Cards - ATI and Intel. All that works is Intel and ATI does not. Any suggestions ?
[02:14] <gogeta> PSR_B1057: turn off intel in bios if possable if not you will need to blacklist it temp
[02:14] <gogeta> PSR_B1057: so it will only use the ati
[02:15] <Paintballr9003> gogeta: The Following packages will be upgraded: <snip> python-minimal <bunch of other python packages>
[02:15] <gogeta> PSR_B1057: hybred switching does not work yet
[02:15] <schultza> apparently i should go back one edition until 12.04 works on install
[02:15] <gogeta> Paintballr9003: well if your using a diffrent miror maybe it lacks it
[02:15] <taxman> i am using 12.04. it's hot as a pizza
[02:15] <PSR_B1057> @gogeta: I had tried this on suse and debian. Now i have started using ubuntu but I am afraid it would end up like it did on other distros
[02:15] <gogeta> Paintballr9003: thats known to happon
[02:16] <schultza>  taxman, yes... it's brand new
[02:16] <gogeta> PSR_B1057: if you blacklist the intel it hould load the ati
[02:16] <gogeta> load
[02:16] <schultza> taxman: but im having problems installing it and having it boot right after
[02:16] <Fyodorovna> Viman, what are you booted to now?
[02:16] <Viman> LiveCD
[02:16] <Viman> PP
[02:16] <Paintballr9003> gogeta: Good Point, I think we are pointed at one of the other university's repo's thats on Internet2 for speed.  I'll try pointing one back at canonical
[02:16] <PSR_B1057> gogeta: should i first install ati catalyst or fglrx ?
[02:16] <taxman> lol, i downloaded this baby as soon as it's released
[02:17] <Fyodorovna> Viman, of? tell me exactly
[02:17] <Viman> The PP LiveCD (12.04)
[02:17] <gogeta> PSR_B1057: they probly will not install
[02:17] <gogeta> PSR_B1057: the oss driver should get you up and running well enough
[02:17] <PSR_B1057> gogeta: without drivers how is ati suppose to work ?
[02:17] <PSR_B1057> ok
[02:18] <Fyodorovna> Viman, follow the chroot here it defaults to. https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Grub2#ChRoot
[02:18] <gogeta> PSR_B1057: pretty mutch all ati cards have open source drivers now
[02:18] <PSR_B1057> 5xxx series
[02:18] <gogeta> PSR_B1057: defently
[02:19] <gogeta> PSR_B1057: once you on th ati cardthe driver should install
[02:19] <gogeta> the
[02:19] <PSR_B1057> gogeta: so, the only thing i need to do is blacklist intel.
[02:19] <gogeta> PSR_B1057: switching will ned to be done by hand
[02:19] <gogeta> need
[02:19] <gogeta> PSR_B1057: yea that should force it to load the ati in its place
[02:19] <PSR_B1057> gogeta: can you explain a little since i am pretty new to linux
[02:20] <gogeta> PSR_B1057: linux load the first card it sees
[02:20] <Paintballr9003> PSR_B1057: it'll be a setting in your BIOS
[02:20] <Paintballr9003> to disable the intel card
[02:20] <gogeta> PSR_B1057: yea if you can turn it off in bios you can skip all this
[02:21] <gogeta> Paintballr9003: dunno if those laptops let you do that
[02:21] <cfedde> where can I find iso's for old versions?  I need to update some abandon ware from systems as old as 8.04
[02:21] <sinichiro> Okay, should I uninstall an older version of wine before installing a newer one through ppa?
[02:21] <gogeta> cfedde: why not just update em all
[02:21] <ripps> Has anyone written an extension for Gnome3 that intergrates Unity's HUD?
[02:22] <cfedde> gogeta: exactly.  I seem to need sources to do int.
[02:22] <cfedde> gogeta: or is there another way?
[02:22] <cfedde> s/sources/isos
[02:22] <gogeta> cfedde: well there is some legicy repos but upgrading them like that probly will fail
[02:23] <Sysss> hi
[02:23] <Sysss> I want to sell a program !!!!
[02:23] <Waraudon> Why do I keep failing the integrity test on the same file
[02:23] <gogeta> cfedde: the alt cds can be used as upgrade cds
[02:23] <gogeta> cfedde: http://old-releases.ubuntu.com/releases/
[02:23] <cfedde> gogeta: awesome!
[02:23] <cfedde> thanks
[02:23] <Waraudon> ./pool/main/l/linux/fs-secondary-modules-3.2.0-23-generic-pae-di_3.2.0-23.36_i386.udeb
[02:24] <^Mike> When I try to upgrade, I'm getting "pkgProblemResolver::Resolve generated breaks, this may be caused by held packages." Of the 3 causes listed, the most likely is probably "Unofficial software packages not provided by Ubuntu" -- how can I get a list of such packages?
[02:24] <delinquentme> how do AWK and SED differ?
[02:24] <Waraudon> I already verified that my ISO is not corrupt
[02:24] <gogeta> cfedde: you can go from lts to lts
[02:24] <Fyodorovna> what is the hud keys
[02:24] <gogeta> cfedde: so you dont need every ver up to 12.04
[02:24] <cfedde> gogeta: that seems like the best approach.
[02:25] <vespakoen> Hey  guys, does anyone know the CLI command for the System Configuration ?
[02:25] <ikt> Fyodorovna, it's alt
[02:25] <gogeta> cfedde: so those 8.04 can go to 10.04 to 12.04
[02:25] <cfedde> gogeta: thanks again.
[02:25] <gogeta> cfedde: if they dont all blow up lol
[02:25] <schultza> Fyodorovna: thanks for the grub help... my installation is working now... not sure if viman got his working
[02:25] <hashbrowncipher> vespakoen: are you talking about "gnome-control-center" ?
[02:25] <cfedde> gogeta: heh. at least these are all vms so I can snapshot easily.
[02:26] <vespakoen> Hawsome! Hash =)
[02:26] <archangelokc> hey I"m having a problem with my mouse in 12.04
[02:26] <gogeta> cfedde: why not skip all that fresh install em all
[02:26] <cfedde> gogeta: fear mostly.
[02:26] <vespakoen> i am on xmonad, need figure this out again =P
[02:26] <cfedde> and the apps they are running
[02:26] <gogeta> cfedde: cant they be reinstalled
[02:27] <Fyodorovna> schultza, no problem the gui helpers like bot repair are okay but but their idiosyncrasies.
[02:27] <cfedde> gogeta: sure.
[02:27] <sinedeviance> so is anyone using x/k/ubuntu 12.04 in a production environment yet?
[02:27] <Viman> Fyodorovna: I'm not quite done, step 11 fails for me.
[02:27] <cfedde> gogeta: I suppose part of what I'm doing is procrastination.
[02:27] <DeathTorrent> is anyone else having a scrolling problem in 12.04?
[02:27] <Viman> Fyodorovna: I cannot perform grub-install in the chrooted system
[02:28] <gogeta> cfedde: or cheat if there vms
[02:28] <dforthman> DeathTorrent, define 'scrolling problem'
[02:28] <gogeta> cfedde: just make a new vm and copy it over
[02:28] <zykotick9> Viman: did you mount proc and the other stuff before chrooting?
[02:28] <schultza> for those with the ati/amd graphics card... do we install the fglrx driver or the fglrx (post-release updates)?
[02:28] <gogeta> cfedde: with the apps
[02:28] <DeathTorrent> well, my scrolling seems to somehow have become....inverted :/ I scroll the wheel down and the window scrolls up, and vice-cersa
[02:28] <DeathTorrent> *versa
[02:28] <Fyodorovna> Viman, is this a standard mbr setup?
[02:28] <Viman> Fyodorovna: step 7? yes
[02:28] <gogeta> cfedde: you can make a custom installer with the apps you whant oem style
[02:29] <dforthman> DeathTorrent, that's definately odd. I use a trackball with no scroll wheel, so I couldn't tell you if mine was acting up or not.
[02:29] <cfedde> gogeta: that might be the right approach.
[02:29] <gogeta> cfedde: so your vm users will just need to set there user and pass
[02:29] <Viman> Fyodorovna: no, what happened was that Precise's intallation hung in the last bits, forcing me to reboot. I cannot boot the system, and someone suggested me to reinstall grub
[02:29] <DeathTorrent> I've seen similar issues on the forums, but for scrolling right to left, not up and down
[02:29] <Waraudon> Has anyone manged to install 12.04 from a USB stick?
[02:30] <gogeta> cfedde: with the oem install image just send it to all the vms one install multi vms
[02:30] <sinedeviance> Waraudon: that's easy. use the easy usb creator.
[02:30] <dforthman> Waraudon, I've seen people say they were able to.
[02:30] <hashbrowncipher> DeathTorrent: I don't know why you are having that issue, but you can probably just change your X11 settings around and reverse it
[02:30] <hashbrowncipher> check this article, maybe: http://onethingwell.org/post/8779215052/reverse-scrolling-x11
[02:30] <DeathTorrent> ty hashbrowncipher
[02:30] <cfedde> gogeta: indeed.
[02:30] <Waraudon> sinedeviance, dforthman, no matter which utility I use, if I use the integrity check, it fails on the same file every time. I already hashed and verified the ISO
[02:31] <jsubl2> does the 64bit install support efi boot and gpt partitions
[02:31] <sinedeviance> Waraudon: download the .iso again.
[02:31] <Fyodorovna> Viman, I wonder if it is more broken then just reinstalling grub will fix. With grub problems I defer to using the bootscript to see whats really going on with some stuff, wont confirm whether grub will actually work though.
[02:31] <gogeta> cfedde: thats how i did it but with real boxes
[02:31] <sinedeviance> Waraudon: also, check your disk for errors afterward.
[02:31] <PSR_B1057> gogeta: i tried blacklisting the Intel card but still the Intel card is loaded
[02:31] <gogeta> PSR_B1057: you try in bios
[02:32] <Waraudon> Hopefully my USB stick isn't dying, the server doesn't have an optical drive in it
[02:32] <Loshki> sinedeviance: personally, I'd wait a least 3 months after an LTS goes out before I'd even consider declaring it stable, depending on how the feedback goes....
[02:32] <PSR_B1057> gogeta: I do not have any option in BIOS
[02:32] <sinedeviance> Loshki: any reason why in particular?
[02:32] <gogeta> Loshki: other then some upgrade isssue its pretty darn solid
[02:32] <gogeta> Loshki: nobody in hear going this is horribly wrong or broken
[02:33] <zykotick9> With an apt-cacher-ng proxy and the mini.iso (aka netinstall), I get "bad proxy" after entering the address.  from the busy box terminal the ip reports alive.
[02:33] <sinedeviance> i am evalutation ubuntu/kubuntu/xubuntu 12.04 in VMs at the moment. we are currently running xubuntu 11.10 on all of our machines, and while it has worked pretty well, the experience hasn't been perfect
[02:33] <szal> gogeta: what do you expect not even 24 hours after release? wait a few days, and reports will pop up ;)
[02:33] <dforthman> 14 hours after release*
[02:34] <sinedeviance> we wouldn't be upgrading too. all of them would be clean reinstalls
[02:34] <sinedeviance> i never trust upgrades
[02:34] <psusi> is anyone else having trouble downloading with zsync?  I'm trying to update from the last daily build and zsync keeps aborting the download
[02:34] <Waraudon> sinedeviance: by checking the disk afterwards, do you mean like chkdsk?
[02:34] <sinedeviance> Waraudon: if it's a windows machine, yes. chkdsk /r
[02:34] <Viman> Hello, my Update to Precise failed in the last step (removing previous packages) and now the system won't boot. Does anybody have a similar situation?
[02:35] <sinedeviance> Waraudon: if it's a linux machine, do fsck.ext4 (or whatever ext version you use) on your disk.
[02:35] <gogeta> cfedde: heh thats why i say fressh
[02:35] <x3oo> hi, how do i see which video driver is loaded?
[02:35] <Loshki> sinedeviance: gogeta: that's all great news so far, but sinedeviance asked about 'production', and that used to be a pretty high bar...
[02:35] <Waraudon> sinedeviance: it's Windows 7, and FAT32
[02:35] <sinedeviance> Waraudon: FAT32? wtf? why not NTFS?
[02:35] <gogeta> Loshki: its alot faster and not crash and unity does not make me sick
[02:35] <Waraudon> sinedeviance: Every utility formats the stick as FAT32
[02:35] <gogeta> Loshki: if thats the question
[02:36] <cfedde> gogeta: the group I joined has a pile of custom boxes installed with ubuntu de Jure over a period of say 6 years.
[02:36] <sinedeviance> Waraudon: wait, you mean your USB stick. it's the one that is not passing checksums? i thought the .iso wasn't?
[02:36] <psusi> jsubl2, yes, efi and gpt are supported
[02:36] <cfedde> step 1 p2v
[02:36] <jsubl2> thanks psusi
[02:36] <sinedeviance> Loshki, gogeta: well, i'm going to evaluate all three releases and we'll probably roll in whatever works best later this week
[02:36] <gogeta> cfedde: i say custom installer in oem mode so your users can set there pass after with there apps set preinstalled
[02:36] <FlimFlamMan> my upgrade attempt was derailed by xmind, package description in /var/lib/dpkg/status and /var/lib/dpkg/available had blank lines.
[02:36] <sinedeviance> ask me next month and i'll give you guys a field performance report :d
[02:36] <sinedeviance> :D
[02:37] <Waraudon> sinedeviance: I used the Universal USB Installer to put the 12.04 server i386 ISO onto the USB stick, then when I use the stick to install 12.04, it fails while retrieving additional packages. An integrity check shows one package fails to pass MD5
[02:37] <cfedde> gogeta: I agree.
[02:37] <gogeta> cfedde: then mass eatherboot em
[02:37] <Loshki> cfedde: may I pm you?
[02:37] <cfedde> gogeta: thanks for the advice
[02:37] <cfedde> Loshki: why>
[02:37] <sinedeviance> Waraudon: ahhh, so it's failing from a downloaded package?
[02:37] <PSR_B1057> gogeta: I don't have any option in BIOS to disable Intel.
[02:37] <Waraudon> sinedeviance: From one on the stick, I assume, I don't have an Internet connection during install since it takes too long
[02:38] <sinedeviance> Waraudon: gotcha. this isn't the netinstall server image right
[02:38] <sinedeviance> ?
[02:38] <gogeta> PSR_B1057: :( i have seen this issue before and i forgot the setps
[02:38] <gogeta> steps
[02:38] <Loshki> cfedde: I have a grammar question, too boring to go into on the main channel...
[02:38] <Waraudon> sinedeviance: Nope, it's the full ISO
[02:38] <cfedde> Loshki: sure
[02:38] <cfedde> e
[02:38] <sinedeviance> Waraudon: okay. in that case, try re-downloading the iso image. chances are it could be a bad source media.
[02:38] <rbik> what python version should I use if I want to manipulate the terminal in Ubuntu 11.10??
[02:38] <sinedeviance> Waraudon: i recommend the torrent version.
[02:39] <^Mike> How can I get a list of "Unofficial software packages not provided by Ubuntu" (which seem to be blocking my upgrade path)?
[02:39] <gogeta> Waraudon: first week the main repo always goes down
[02:39] <sinedeviance> torrents will almost always download a complete file correctly, regardless of internet problems. and even if a chunk is bad, it can re-download that chunk on the fly.
[02:39] <PSR_B1057> gogeta: sad man :| hope there is someone who can help me out with this isseu
[02:39] <PSR_B1057> issue
[02:39] <Waraudon> sinedeviance: Could that even be possible? I hashed and verified the ISO already
[02:39] <gogeta> MikeN_: it should ask if you wanna remove them just say yes
[02:39] <sinedeviance> Waraudon: in that case it is unlikely, but not impossible. still, it's probably NOT the .iso at fault.
[02:39] <killown> any chance to clone the gnome shell behavior as super +  w does for unity? I'd like to bind super+w to work when the mouse cursor moves to the left edge
[02:40] <sinedeviance> Waraudon: you're positive the stick is good? have you tried re-creating the stick with univ. usb creator? does it fail on the same file every time?
[02:40] <gogeta> MikeN_: it just removes those repos not the packages themselfs
[02:40] <^Mike> gogeta: Were you talking to me? No, it doesn't ask if I'd like to remove them, there is just a close button, and then cdromupgrade exits
[02:40] <gogeta> MikeN_: :(
[02:40] <^Mike> gogeta: my exact reaction
[02:41] <Waraudon> sinedeviance: Yes and yes, it fails on the same file every time. ./pool/main/l/linux/fs-secondary-modules-3.2.0-23-generic-pae-di_3.2.0-23.36_i386.udeb
[02:41] <Waraudon> sinedeviance: It fails during the "Load installer components from CD" stage
[02:41] <sinedeviance> already found one mark against xubuntu 12.04; it has the same annoying "The folder cannot be opened" bug that 11.10 had. yeah, xubuntu is not ready yet.
[02:41] <Paintballr9003> Gogeta: moving back to canonical's mirrors ends in the same error, but further research reveals that the servers are still running 2.6 and are trying to upgrade to 2.7 with the move to 12.04
[02:41] <martian> Is there any way to prevent yourself from accidentlly issuing the -r flag for crontab when you mean to issue -e?
[02:41] <sinedeviance> Waraudon: so you're running i386 on a 64-bit system?
[02:41] <Waraudon> sinedeviance: i386 on an older machine that isn't 64-bit
[02:42] <gogeta> Paintballr9003: yea mirror death
[02:42] <sinedeviance> Waraudon: then anything related to the PAE kernel should not be installed.
[02:42] <xangua> I can't get the 'new release aviable' popup from Update Manager on Lucid to upgrade to Pangolin, i have installed all lucid updates and in the preferences is set to upgrade to LTS, whan can I do¿
[02:42] <Waraudon> sinedeviance: I'm not sure why it's loading that package, but it happens long before package selection
[02:42] <sinedeviance> Waraudon: PAE is for i368 systems to use more than 4GB of memory on x64 systems. it's also being phased out for this release.
[02:42] <gogeta> Paintballr9003: always a good idea to do this a week before hand many peopel dont relise they upgrade all beta to stabel in that time frame
[02:42] <Renard> Hello there
[02:42] <sinedeviance> Waraudon: i have absolutely no clue. sorry man :(
[02:43] <sinedeviance> that package should not be loaded
[02:43] <Renard> I'm trying to live stream my desktop from xvidcap to a rtmp:// stream
[02:43] <psusi> sinedeviance, pae has nothing to do with x64, it was for 32 bit systems to use more than 4gb of ram... if your cpu is 64 bit capable, you may as well use the 64 bit build
[02:43] <Renard> Anyone knows how this work?
[02:43] <ActionParsnip> xangua: could grab the alternate Precuise ISO and upgrade using that.
[02:44] <Renard> Also, xvidcap removed from 12.04 makes me a sad Renard
[02:44] <Waraudon> sinedeviance: I guess the only thing I can do is hook the Internet connection up and let it use the mirror, it's going to be so slow though
[02:44] <sinedeviance> psusi: yes, i just said that. but he's running i386 server on i386 hardware. that's why it makes no sense; his system doesn't NEED pae.
[02:44] <xangua> ActionParsnip: then i'll have to wait untill tomorrow, don't have an cd's D: thanks
[02:44] <Trel> Got a question, I need to edit the grub menu to manually add an entry, in Ubuntu 11 server, where is that stored? I don't seem to have a /boot/grub/menu.lst
[02:45] <ActionParsnip> xangua: you don't need a CD, you can loop mount the ISO
[02:45] <ActionParsnip> Renard: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1746128
[02:45] <hash> hello
[02:45] <sfears> Trel: /etc/grub.d/40_custom & update-grub
[02:45] <cordoval> anyone can help me fixing my ubuntu 12.10 upgrade that failed without downloading it again?
[02:46] <rinzler> ./config asking for 'glib-2.0' Not sure how to proceed. Tried installing all that I can think of. any ideas?
[02:46] <hash> sorry im new to ubuntu
[02:46] <alusion> Ubuntu
[02:46] <Trel> sfears, where does it store it, I'd be more comfortable editing the file manually rather than using the script
[02:46] <alusion> y no support for Logitech G510 keyboard ?
[02:46] <ActionParsnip> alusion: logitech hates linux
[02:46] <xangua> ActionParsnip: really¿ but I need specific the alternat right¿
[02:46] <gogeta> ActionParsnip: must not hate it to mutch all my stuff works
[02:47] <ActionParsnip> xangua: yes, you need the alternate ISO, you can then mount it using:  sudo mkdir /media/iso; sudo mount -o loop /path/to/file.iso /media/iso
[02:47] <sfears> you add custom entries to the 40_custom file.  you can edit the /boot/grub/grub.cfg, but it will be overwritten eveytime grub probes
[02:47] <sfears> Trel:
[02:47] <ActionParsnip> gogeta: they refuse to support the OS, the community may have made drivers however
[02:47] <Trel> How often does grub probe, just when I call update-grub?
[02:48] <Trel> I only need a one time entry
[02:48] <trism> rinzler: libglib2.0-dev
[02:48] <gogeta> ActionParsnip: keybord mouse usb headset all work
[02:48] <shaneo> is there a channel for photorec anywhere or can anyone assist me with a photorec wuestion
[02:48] <Renard> ActionParsnip, thanks for the head up
[02:48] <gogeta> ActionParsnip: but there nothing fancy so
[02:48] <psusi> sinedeviance, if he has 4gb of ram he does
[02:48] <Fyodorovna> Trel, can't you add it to the kernel at grub?
[02:48] <ActionParsnip> gogeta: they have fancy buttons and such which sometimes won't work
[02:49] <Trel> Fyodorovna: remote system
[02:49] <edinny> Went to download Precise, and it recommends the 32 bit version
[02:49] <Renard> unfortunately, no. VLC does not allow to only grab a part of the desktop, move that part when necessary, and stream to a rtmp server.
[02:49] <gogeta> ActionParsnip: mines pretty genraic in that sense probly why i have no issue
[02:49] <ActionParsnip> edinny: its due to the target audience of Ubuntu
[02:49] <rinzler> trism: thanks!
[02:49] <Renard> xvidcap / gtk-recordmydesktop do not record live
[02:49] <hash> so i have a question im running ubuntu 11.10 and when i start up it give me the option for ubuntu 2d and ubuntu
[02:49] <sinedeviance> psusi: it said it was older hardware so that's doubtful
[02:49] <ActionParsnip> gogeta: likely, one of the fancy ones with all the weird stuff probably won't have half the stuff working
[02:49] <edinny> ActionParsnip: so it does not look at my browser to determine how many bits my processor is?
[02:50] <Waraudon> sinedeviance: I think I found a problem
[02:50] <Renard> ffmpeg / command line do not allow to resize the grabbed aera
[02:50] <psusi> edinny, no... you have to choose to download the 64 bit version if you want/need it
[02:50] <uw> just came here to say: boooo ubuntu for not going back to Gnome
[02:50] <edinny> thanks
[02:50] <ActionParsnip> edinny: 32bit OS will run on 64bit CPU, so if you advise 32bit for those whom are not so PC literate it will be a hit each time :)
[02:50] <gogeta> edinny: if you dont have more then 3gb of ram its not relly going to matter
[02:50] <hash> when in ubuntu 2d i have a side bar and a power button wireless signal ect and in ubuntu i dont have any of that
[02:50] <Renard> Windows users are expected to use Adobe Media Encoder
[02:50] <ActionParsnip> edinny: you may not be downloading for the you are accessing the site with
[02:51] <ActionParsnip> hash: because 2d rocks \m/
[02:51] <gogeta> edinny: but if you knoe what prosser it is we can tell you. eg all core are 64 but as well as all i serise
[02:51] <hash> yeah but i cant use cube in 2d
[02:51] <edinny> gogeta: I have 4 gigs, so it matters?
[02:51] <Waraudon> sinedeviance: ./pool/main/l/linux/fs-secondary-modules-3.2.0-23-generic-pae-di_3.2.0-23.36_i386.udeb is what the integrity check fails on. The file is named incorrectly in the ISO. It ends in *.ude, not *.udeb
[02:51] <waterson> i'm having trouble updating from us.archive.ubuntu.com; i'm guessing this is a server load issue because precise shipped?
[02:51] <r3dhat> hi...I tried installing oracle java from a ppa. the install failed due to a bad tarball checksum, and now even when I remove the ppa, the package still errors every time I run an apt transaction. Even after I run autoclean and clean it still persists
[02:51] <Waraudon> sinedeviance: Renaming it fixes the failure during loading
[02:51] <sinedeviance> Waraudon: ahh... wow. i think the universal usb creator did something wrong
[02:51] <enzotib> hi, in LXTerminal (from 12.04), when I hit Shift-Ctrl-C it copies the selected region, but also interprets it as interrupt. It was not so in 11.10. Maybe a different configuration from my part, but where to look for?
[02:51] <ki4ro> I've been using 12.04 Beta and applying all updates sent in my direction...do I still to upgrade to 12.04 or am I there?
[02:52] <Waraudon> sinedeviance: I dunno, it happened with every utility.
[02:52] <Waraudon> sinedeviance: I'll check the actual ISO
[02:52] <gogeta> edinny: if you do lshw and pastbin it we can tell you
[02:52] <gogeta> edinny: that will tell us aought all your hardware
[02:52] <hash> ive also noticed a couple software differences
[02:52] <gogeta> edinny: sudo lshw
[02:52] <Waraudon> sinedeviance: It's wrong in the ISO too
[02:52] <OerHeks> r3dhat, use ppa-purge to undo the install
[02:52] <usr13> how do I tell the update manager not to update mozilla-firefox any more?
[02:53] <jvegiard> Hi everyone. I'm looking to installing Grub2 as boot loader on my Macbook 2,1 to start installing 12.04. Why I want to do this, because my superdrive is broken and Apple doesn't allow to boot legacy Oses from external devices. Ant advice will be appreciated. :)
[02:53] <Waraudon> sinedeviance: firewire-core-modules also ends in *.ude
[02:53] <psusi> edinny, if the system is less than a few years old and has 4gb of ram, I would go with the 64 bit version... then again, I've been running 64 bit since 2006
[02:53] <jvegiard> Any*
[02:53] <seeker3b> join #ubuntu-ch
[02:54] <sfears> jvegiard: use a liveCD to install to your main drive
[02:54] <Waraudon> I'm assuming this is some kind of mistake or bug
[02:54] <enzotib> in LXTerminal (from 12.04), when I hit Shift-Ctrl-C it copies the selected region, but also interprets it as interrupt. It was not so in 11.10. Maybe a different configuration from my part, but where to look for?
[02:54] <sinedeviance> Waraudon: most likely, yeah. i doubt your system has anything to do with it.
[02:54] <ActionParsnip> edinny: you can use PAE in 32bit and access up to 64Gb RAM in 32bit
[02:54] <gogeta> edinny: see i scrolled up around the top and it told me i have a  product: AMD Sempron(tm) Processor 3200+ thats 32bit
[02:54] <ki4ro> I've been using 12.04 Beta and applying all updates sent in my direction...do I still to upgrade to 12.04 or am I there?
[02:55] <jvegiard> Thks but I already tried and like I said, my superdrive is broken so i'm using and external firewire dvd
[02:55] <Fyodorovna> ki4ro, your there.
[02:55] <sinedeviance> hmm, so i'm thinking ubuntu with gnome classic. seems to work pretty good. i havent tested kubuntu yet though, so we'll see; still, i don't care much for kde 4.x so it'll probably be ubuntu.
[02:55] <edinny> gogeta: I have the same semporon
[02:55] <gogeta> edinny: your 32bit
[02:55] <ki4ro> Fyodorovna: Thanks...I thought I probably was...save the server some work tonight smile
[02:56] <edinny> gogeta: I have a 64 bit processor
[02:56] <gogeta> edinny: a 3200+ is not 64bit
[02:56] <Waraudon> sinedeviance: Seems like a pretty big problem though, maybe my system just exposed it for some reason. Is there any method to push out an updated ISO if necessary?
[02:56] <sinedeviance> Waraudon: i don't work on the ubuntu team so it's out of my hands. sorry :(
[02:56] <sinedeviance> Waraudon: the best you can do is file a bug report.
[02:56] <Fyodorovna> ki4ro, yeah, I'm seeding low pull rate though.
[02:56] <delinquentme> whats the ubuntu tool to insert text at the end of a file?
[02:56] <delinquentme> command line command
[02:57] <gogeta> edinny: its not even dual core
[02:57] <ki4ro> Fyodorovna: Not my fault smile
[02:57] <dr_willis> delinquentme: several ways. cat . echo. sed. awk
[02:57] <Waraudon> sinedeviance: I might have to if nobody else has discovered it yet. Is *.ude even a valid package extension? It seems there's either *.deb or *.udeb files
[02:58] <jvegiard> sfears: Thks but I already tried and like I said, my superdrive is broken so i'm using and external firewire dvd
[02:58] <gogeta> edinny: but with 4gb ram 32bit will work fine for you anything over would need some mods
[02:58] <edinny> thanks bye
[02:58] <psusi> gogeta, edinny, according to this, it depends on which model you have: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_AMD_Sempron_microprocessors
[02:58] <sinedeviance> okay what the crap. gnome-classic looks messed up for some reason now :D
[02:59] <ludlow> Hows is 12.04 everyone?
[02:59] <plustax> ugh
[02:59] <sinedeviance> ludlow: just like 11.10 so far.
[02:59] <plustax> ludlow, im not a fan
[02:59] <ki4ro> ludlow: Good here in WV
[02:59] <delinquentme> dr_willis, i've seen cat used b efore .. whats the simple cat command to do that?
[02:59] <plustax> 10.10 dtw
[02:59] <plustax> ftw I mean
[02:59] <Endafy> anybody else having issues with Unity
[02:59] <ludlow> Worth upgrading to 12.04?
[02:59] <massivehole> I just installed 12.04 and my ethernet connection is not working out of the box!!!
[02:59] <plustax> yeah.
[02:59] <sinedeviance> hmm so it's only gnome-classic with effects that looks messed up
[03:00] <gogeta> psusi: relly a 64 bit septron i didnt think that started untill the x2 serise
[03:00] <plustax> try installing gnome 3 Endafy
[03:00] <Endafy> ludlow, in my experiences not yet
[03:00] <ludlow> Endafy, doh.
[03:00] <Endafy> plustax, ill just use Kubuntu
[03:00] <dr_willis> delinquentme:  use it in combo with the output redirection. or make 2files and cat into a third
[03:00] <ActionParsnip> sinedeviance: did you MD5 test the ISO you used?
[03:00] <Endafy> the new unity is too broken
[03:00] <ludlow> will apt-get dist-upgrade give me 12.04?
[03:00] <psusi> gogeta, according to that link, there were two different sempron 3200+ part numbers, one supports 64 bit
[03:00] <plustax> Endafy, 10.10 if you want effects. Most stable OS in existence.
[03:00] <Waraudon> sinedeviance: It seems the install is going to finish successfully, I'll reboot and make sure everything actually works. I also forgot to make a partition for Squid, so I'm going to have to reinstall anyway
[03:00] <gogeta> psusi: well yea the 3200 x2
[03:00] <ActionParsnip> ludlow: no, its more involved
[03:00] <dr_willis> cat foo bar > foobar
[03:00] <ActionParsnip> !upgrade | ludlow
[03:01] <Taar779_> Hello, I'm having some issues with sftp. I looked over my sshd_config file and its enabled. ssh works fine ... any ideas on what might be wrong? Maybe some setting that I'm overing looking?
[03:01] <ActionParsnip> psusi: I have a sempron 3000+, runs awesome
[03:01] <ludlow> ActionParsnip, thanks
[03:01] <ActionParsnip> Taar779_: can you ssh ok?
[03:01] <plustax> I just got me a new laptop today. Asus. 8 gigs of ram and a 4400mb processor
[03:01] <gogeta> ActionParsnip: heck yea forever old still goes
[03:02] <Taar779_> ActionParsnip, that is correct.
[03:02] <psusi> I guess those are getting fairly old now... I got an Athlon 64 3200+ back around when 6.06 came out
[03:02] <ActionParsnip> Taar779_: which clients have you tried?
[03:02] <gogeta> psusi: yea thats the 64 bit ones
[03:03] <sinedeviance> okay so ubuntu still sucks (thanks unity.)
[03:03] <sinedeviance> kubutnu time.
[03:03] <gogeta> sinedeviance: hua
[03:03] <sinedeviance> kubuntu even.
[03:04] <dr_willis> no unity ussues here.
[03:04] <gogeta> sinedeviance: how is it sucking
[03:04] <gogeta> sinedeviance: its responsiv and snappy for me
[03:04] <psusi> then I went to athlon 64 x4 5000+, and now quad core core2 duo @ 3.4 GHz
[03:04] <Taar779_> ActionParsnip, filezilla (with a key and with a password) and on my laptop with the sftp command. both say the connection times out
[03:04] <dr_willis> go old school with lubuntu. ;)
[03:04] <erujolc> in previous version of Ubuntu I have disable Nvidia Optimus at the BIOS level leaving my Acer i5 timeline to use integrated intel graphic chipset, I this for battery life and because of some reports of crashing, has things now improved with 12.04 that its a safe bet to re-enable (i dont play games or do video editing)?
[03:05] <sinedeviance> gogeta: unity sucks (still) and so does gnome-classic (there's not even a system tray ffs!)
[03:05] <gogeta> dr_willis: unity use to choke and die on my little netbook now its fast didnt even put lubuntu back
[03:05] <ActionParsnip> Taar779_: how about if you allow password connection, is it ok?
[03:05] <gogeta> sinedeviance: lo,l you just have to turn it on
[03:05] <sinedeviance> i'm sorry, but canonical did take a huge step back when they introduced unity. i dont like it, nobody in our company likes it, which is why we've been using xubuntu for the last two years
[03:05] <sinedeviance> at least xubuntu is sane.
[03:05] <gogeta> sinedeviance: install the app called myunity
[03:05] <dr_willis> erujolc:  try it and see.
[03:05] <psusi> Unity runs fine on my 1 GHz celleron netbook... my cell phone has a faster cpu
[03:06] <ki4ro> sinedeviance: If you're so disappointed why do you use it?
[03:06] <sinedeviance> gogeta: i have to install this on 25 machines. i dont have time to do post-config, frankly, i shouldn't need to for a "world class operating system"
[03:06] <erujolc> dr_willis, fair point
[03:06] <sinedeviance> ki4ro: we don't. that's exactly the point.
[03:06] <dr_willis> !oem
[03:06] <gogeta> sinedeviance: fair point i xubuntu or lubuntu for you
[03:06] <ki4ro> sinedeviance: So why are you here?  Just busting ubuntu's chops or ???
[03:06] <sinedeviance> gogeta: i turned unity off. how would myunity help?
[03:07] <erujolc> sinedeviance, you should have a way to do post-config, even if its as something as basic as fabric, especially if you manage 25 workstations
[03:07] <Taar779_> ActionParsnip, yeah turned that on since I'm trying to get my laptop setup with a key. Though now its saying: Recieved message to long (that's from the sftp command)
[03:07] <project_tab> whenever i vnc into my ubuntu desktop the host machine asks me to enter a password to confirm/allow the connection.  it's a real pain in the butt, only i cant figure out where to allow it to connect without the password.
[03:07] <sinedeviance> ki4ro: ubuntu is also kubuntu and xubuntu. those are fine in my opinion, if a little rough around the edges.
[03:07] <gogeta> sinedeviance: myunity can change how unity works turn on desktop icons menubars and so on
[03:07] <project_tab> it means that i always have to have a monitor hooked up.  not very convienent.
[03:07] <MiztaW> Haven't tried yet, but just downloading right now... I'm excited. I love the workflow of unity
[03:07] <project_tab> can anyone tell me where to disable that requirement for the password?
[03:07] <gogeta> sinedeviance: tweak it to your likeing
[03:07] <ki4ro> MYUNITY is very helpful and pretty straight forward
[03:08] <sinedeviance> ki4ro: my company has been running on ubuntu derivatives (and servers) for the past two years. the only thing i have against ubuntu is unity.
[03:08] <dforthman> sorry. i went to the restroom. did we determine if gogeta's cpu was 64-bit?
[03:08] <sinedeviance> gogeta: i'll try that then, thanks
[03:08] <ki4ro> sinedeviance: I see.  Can't use gnome?
[03:09] <sinedeviance> ki4ro: i would if 2.x was still an option. that's why we're running xubuntu -- it sticks to the old ways, which actually did work fine
[03:09] <gogeta> dforthman: some where yes but they where athlon64 not septrons
[03:09] <erujolc> is it possible to choose the monitor to mount the sidebar on unity yet? also if I mount the sidebar to external 2nd monitor, and then disconnect it, will it automatically shuffle back to other screen, in 12.04b1 it fail on nearly all scenarios
[03:09] <kwtm2> What's the channel to ask when 12.04 is coming out?  #plusoneUbuntu or something like that.
[03:09] <dforthman> gogeta, this will tell you if it's 32 or 64-bit: cat /proc/cpuinfo | grep clflush\ size
[03:09] <ki4ro> sinedeviance: I see, well good luck with it...I'm you'll sort it out
[03:09] <erujolc> downloading 12.04release now but if any experience eager to know
[03:09] <sinedeviance> ki4ro: i would just go with xubuntu again but xubuntu 11.10 had some annoying bugs that still aren't fixed in 12.04. so that's no longer an option.
[03:09] <psusi> kwtm2, it's out
[03:10] <OerHeks> kwtm2, 12.04 is out
[03:10] <gogeta> dforthman: not always my atom comes up 64 bit with that
[03:10] <enzotib> in LXTerminal (from 12.04), when I hit Shift-Ctrl-C it copies the selected region, but also interprets it as interrupt. It was not so in 11.10. Maybe a different configuration from my part, but where to look for?
[03:10] <gogeta> dforthman: its not 64 it has some 64 support
[03:10] <dr_willis> kwtm2:  i thought it showed up on both. and had some settings. but i havent tried multi mon. in ages
[03:10] <sinedeviance> gogeta: some atoms (mainly the ones after the first couple years) were 64-bit
[03:10] <lauratika> just upgrade to 12.04  and dash seems bit unresponsive... when i place the mouse on the left side of the screen it wont show up... waht could be the problem?
[03:10] <dforthman> I believe those older semprons should be accurate
[03:10] <psusi> gogeta, huh?  "some" 64 bit support?  it's kind of either all or nothing
[03:10] <socrates_johnson> erujolc: as fate would have it, my laptop is dying and i need a replacement asap. i'm looking at a laptop with a NVIDIA GeForce GT 540M with optimus. Is that going to be a problem?
[03:11] <gogeta> psusi: nope some atoms had 64 emu
[03:11] <gogeta> clflush size	: 64
[03:11] <gogeta> and i knoe this is not 64bit
[03:11] <project_tab> i checked in desktop sharing preferences but i do not see anything pertaining to having the remote machine enter system pw to allow vnc connection
[03:11] <gogeta> i tryed to install it once and it failed
[03:11] <dr_willis> my netbook can run 64 bit ubuntu. which suprised me..
[03:11] <erujolc> will report back in about an 1hr just about to put the iso on CD and try it, private message your email if not about
[03:11] <erujolc> s/cd/usb
[03:12] <dforthman> that's weird. i've never seen it report 64 if it's not a 64-bit processor
[03:12] <gogeta> dforthman: the septron was made before 64 bit was thought of
[03:12] <psusi> cache line size doesn't have anything to do with 32 bit vs 64
[03:12] <Waraudon> Gah, I hate how Ubuntu always installs GRUB on the wrong disk when you're using a USB stick
[03:13] <Waraudon> It overwrites the bootloader on the USB stick and blows that up
[03:13] <psusi> Waraudon, never seen it do that...
[03:13] <EzeQL> hi, if i run which APP , it returns the default release of APP. I want to use a nigthlie of APP located in another directory. how can i do it?
[03:13] <dr_willis> Waraudon:  never had that peoblem
[03:13] <Waraudon> It happens every time I use a USB install
[03:14] <dforthman> gogeta, sorry, i was thinking of the wrong command. it's getconf LONG_BIT
[03:14] <gogeta> psusi: some prossers like the atom n270 are not true 64
[03:14] <dr_willis> EzeQL:  rearange your PATH order
[03:14] <gogeta> dforthman: 32 on that
[03:14] <ljsoftnet> what does "Could not open /dev/mixer" mean, when i open gnome radio, by the way it has no sound, but can pick up FM signal
[03:15] <sinedeviance> erujolc: so earlier you mentioned fabric. is that good?
[03:15] <psusi> gogeta, how is there a half way?  either it supports 64 bit instructions/addressing/registers, or not...
[03:15] <Waraudon> Interesting, for some reason it's using the pae kernel
[03:15] <sfears> ljsoftnet: maybe an alsa issue
[03:15] <dforthman> gogeta, this will tell you also: sudo lshw -C cpu | grep width
[03:15] <gogeta> psusi: some not all
[03:15] <project_tab> thx guys
[03:15] <ljsoftnet> sfears can i fix it?
[03:16] <lauratika> does any one has issues with dash bar not showing up or taking a lot of time?
[03:16] <taxman> no
[03:16] <gogeta> dforthman: thats 64
[03:16] <Waraudon> Is 12.04 using the generic PAE kernel on a 32-bit system with 1GB of RAM normal? I think 11.04 did it too
[03:16] <taxman> my dash bar is ok so far
[03:16] <erujolc> fabric is basically a simple wrapper over ssh, so you can do fabric host1 host2 host3 -command rm -fr /  (cant remembre exact syntax), but most people will use it programatically from python to check conditions, executing different paths, collect more fine grain metric rather just throwing out commands at 25 machines
[03:16] <dforthman> gogeta, ha
[03:17] <sfears> ljsoftnet: what does "apt-cache policy alsa-base" say?
[03:17] <erujolc> puppet and chef are big boy tools, but greater learning curve
[03:17] <gogeta> dforthman: i have 2 like that my n270 and this 3200+
[03:17] <sinedeviance> erujolc: ahh, gotcha. i already do most of that stuff using ssh and cron
[03:17] <gogeta> dforthman: i looked it up before and its some odd set they used when 64bit was starting up
[03:17] <sinedeviance> i have a cron setup where i can ssh in scripts to multiple machines and then cron will run them
[03:17] <psusi> Waraudon, I think the rule was if your cpu supported pae, it used it... iirc, for 12.04, non pae is no longer supported
[03:17] <yeik> well, the laptop upgraded to 12.04 with very little issue so far.
[03:18] <dforthman> gogeta, gotcha. gotta love the emulations. messes everything up
[03:18] <erujolc> yeah with fabric it is push, your setup is pull (so is chef)
[03:18] <Waraudon> psusi: That's probably fine then. It is quite old hardware, AMD Athlon XP 3200+, 1GB DDR RAM
[03:18] <gogeta> dforthman: i think they where bad 64 bis rebranded 32
[03:18] <gogeta> bits
[03:18] <Waraudon> I would install more RAM if the HP BIOS would allow it, but it doesn't
[03:18] <gogeta> dforthman: thats pretty normal fo prosser makers
[03:19] <dforthman> gogeta, yeah. that seems normal
[03:19] <psusi> Waraudon, time to upgrade? ;)
[03:19] <naryfa> how do I check which packages have I put on hold with apt-get?
[03:19] <Waraudon> psusi: I've definitely been wanting to for a while. A little Mini-ITX system would be perfect
[03:19] <Waraudon> and probably use way less power
[03:19] <sfears> naryfa: maybe with aptitude?
[03:19] <ljsoftnet> sfears http://pastebin.com/Av3zpZby
[03:20] <naryfa> sfears: bingo, thanks
[03:20] <socrates_johnson> erujolc: have you tried bumblebee?
[03:20] <erujolc> are gnome-do and launchy still the recommended launcher choices for lightweight desktops like xfce?
[03:20] <sfears> ljsoftnet: close radio and try "modprobe snd-mixer-oss" and reopen radio
[03:20] <erujolc> nope, what is it?
[03:21] <Athanasius> how do I make a spec display at the top of the screen (12.04)? I have a system monitor thing on my 10.04 machine that displays cpu/ram/swap/system load, trying to figure out how to get that on this machine but the top bar doesn't respond to rightclicks
[03:21] <psusi> Waraudon, last year overhauled to a nice core2 sandybridge 3.4 GHz setup with 4gb of ram and was surprised by how little power it uses... only 120 watts when idle and the vast majority of that seems to be the old radeon video card I kept instead of getting a mobo with the integrated intel graphics
[03:21] <gogeta> dforthman: i popped in my 64 cd my mastake once and it did not work so who knoes
[03:21] <Waraudon> psusi: I think anything would be a welcome improvement over an old OEM HP box
[03:21] <ljsoftnet> sfears it says FATAL error
[03:21] <psusi> Waraudon, actually, it's only drawing 103 watts now that I have all of my old rotational disks sleeping
[03:22] <gogeta> psusi: i draw 35
[03:22] <psusi> Waraudon, indeed, hp is terribad
[03:22] <erujolc> reading on archwiki, seems more for big gfx systems, i just want smooth effects, with no dent to battery life
[03:22] <Waraudon> psusi: IO
[03:22] <gogeta> psusi: gotta love the n270
[03:22] <Waraudon> psusi: I'm not sure I even want to know how much power this thing is using *
[03:22] <sfears> say's not found, don't be so dramatic ljsoftnet
[03:22] <psusi> gogeta, on a desktop?  nice... yea, I probably would too if not for the damn radeon... it's a power hog
[03:22] <socrates_johnson> erujolc: a fix for the optimus issue i think? http://www.bumblebee-project.org/  http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1861209
[03:22] <gogeta> psusi: on a 900a eepc
[03:23] <k014> hello everyone!... i want to update to ubuntu 12.04 but i dont now what are the differences between updating via ubuntu updater, or making a fresh install...
[03:23] <k014> i always chose backup and make a fresh install..... but i am kind of tired about making backups of everything every 6 months, there is a better workflow for this?
[03:23] <erujolc> i guessing bumblebee isnt part of 12.04 out the box?
[03:23] <gogeta> psusi: i is at work leeching wifi
[03:23] <trism> Athanasius: if you mean the system monitor applet for the gnome-panel, indicator-multiload is similar for unity, add it to startup applications
[03:23] <psusi> k014, making a backup is still a good idea, but yea, you can just do the upgrade and unless something goes wrong, save yourself the trouble of reinstalling everything
[03:24] <k014> yes but upgrading, does not improve any visuals, i mean, new menus or login screens
[03:24] <sinedeviance> gogeta: myunity helps but it doesn't really do what i want (which is a system that is more like gnome 2.x)
[03:24] <socrates_johnson> erujolc: i don't think so
[03:25] <gogeta> sinedeviance: you will probly like xfce in that case
[03:25] <sinedeviance> *sigh*
[03:25] <gogeta> sinedeviance: or xubuntu
[03:25] <sinedeviance> gogeta: i've been using xubuntu for years. i said that just 30 lines ago. i already know everything about it.
[03:25] <erujolc> i probably wont be trying that then, i had all my bastardization fun in archlinux im getting old now so i just want what works, install os, pull down dotfiles, adjust a few settings, reboot and go
[03:26] <sfears> ljsoftnet: try installing libsnack2-alsa or libsnack2 either or and see if it helps
[03:26] <Athanasius> trism: excellent, that provided exactly what I was looking for thank you
[03:26] <sinedeviance> i want to be able to run apps from a dropdown menu or from the desktop. the unity dash wastes time and kinda sucks tbh.
[03:26] <BlueClaw> Looking for "OpenCL drivers". I found OpenCL headers in synaptic, is that the same thing? Anyone know? :)
[03:26] <Waraudon> I'd also like to be able to get rid of the 4-partition limit of MBR on a new machine, without having to use extended partitions
[03:27] <socrates_johnson> erujolc: so you basically just don't use the nvidia card in linux at all?
[03:27] <Ass> Dloded 12.04 yet?
[03:27] <cordoval_> mid way on installation process for ubuntu 12.04 upgrade graphics failed and i happened to reboot, now it gives error like git id unrecognized
[03:27] <k014> my workflow nowadays is to create several symbolic links to everything pointing to my home folder, this way i just backup the home folder, and then install any new version of ubuntu, and then just reset the links
[03:27] <cordoval_> how can i fix my install witohut loosing or moving my data around?
[03:27] <cordoval_> just need commands please begging
[03:27] <ActionParsnip> Waraudon: delete one and make it into an extended partition, then make logical partitions in that
[03:28] <erujolc> No, in the BIOS you can disable it, but once this finishes copying to USB i'll install 12.04 and enable it for a try, but i wont be doing anything hacky, if any dent > 5% to battery its back to using integrated only, unless things fly like a rocket and its simply amazing
[03:28] <cordoval_> crying like a baby on my corner
[03:28] <ActionParsnip> cordoval_: use your backups if necessary
[03:28] <k014> i duno if thats is ok, or you masters of ubuntu have a bbeter workflow for mayor updates
[03:28] <cordoval_> what do you mean by use your backups
[03:28] <erujolc> Waraudon, with MBR you can't
[03:28] <erujolc> perhaps you can try GPT
[03:28] <cordoval_> i need some guidance
[03:28] <cordoval_> please i am not an expert
[03:28] <Waraudon> erujolc: That's the idea, but to boot a GPT disk I'd need a UEFI board
[03:29] <Loopb4ck> I have a toshiba satellite l775d and Kernel cmdline requires "i8042.reset=1 i8042.nomux=1" to be added every time the Kernel needs to be updated. is there a way to automate this?
[03:29] <sinedeviance> ooh i just figured out how to fix the thunar bug in xubuntu. looks like xubuntu 12.04 is it :D
[03:29] <socrates_johnson> erujolc: i'm not old but i don't want to mess around with stuff either. i'm just nervous about buying a new laptop if this optimus thing is a problem (and my current laptop is dying the week before finals). so the options are full-time integrated or full-time nvidia?
[03:30] <xangua> i believe my isp restricts my band usage, everytime I use specific torrents I got disconected several times D: whant can I do about it¿
[03:30] <psusi> Waraudon, what's wrong with extended partitions?
[03:30] <psusi> Waraudon, and you can get a bios machine to boot from gpt
[03:30] <Waraudon> psusi: Nothing really, but I really need to just get everything off the disk and start over. it's a mess right now, / is on partition 3
[03:31] <psusi> Waraudon, so?
[03:31] <erujolc> its not a problem, i disabled it in BIOS and it uses the intergrated gfx, i have native resolution, can run gimp, watch videos, movies/divx, connect an external monitor via hdmi. the only thing if there is a fantastic gfx inside id like to use if its doesnt kill battery of dent reliability, but I have a feeling we might have to wait till 3.4, 3.5 before all this stuff is seamless
[03:32] <erujolc> so perhaps you get the feeling your not getting everything you pay for, but the only laptops i could find with pure integrated intel only for too low end, so i went mid-range and disable to discrete gfx unit
[03:32] <ibfrog> sorry for just breaking into the conversation randomly, but anyone here an audio expert?  I can't seem to make my panther point  Intel hd audio make a noise
[03:32] <cordoval_> ActionParsnip:
[03:32] <ActionParsnip> cordoval_: if your data is important to you, you will have made a duplicate copy on some external storage to your system, like a USB HDD
[03:32] <cordoval_> what do you mean
[03:32] <brolman2> \list
[03:32] <cordoval_> oh it is important but i did not do it
[03:32] <cordoval_> sorry
[03:32] <brolman2> \list
[03:32] <ibfrog> brolman2, try /list
[03:33] <cordoval_> even if i did my backups, you are not answering my aux call
[03:33] <cordoval_> because i don{t know how to proceed
[03:33] <erujolc> Waraudon, are you sure you need EFI to boot to a GPT disk. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/GUID_Partition_Table
[03:34] <L3top> erojulc you might try creating an xorg.conf and just setting the BusID
[03:34] <L3top> erujolc: but if you want to switch back and forth bumblebee is the way to go atm for intel/nvidia
[03:35] <erujolc> thanks, bullocks to that, i leave it disable in BIOS, one day i'll be able to use surely, but back on review in 6 months tag for now
[03:35] <k014> hello!, i want to know how do you deal with new ubuntu releases.... i mean.... do you use updater?, or backup and clean install?, i ise clean install but i am tired of backups every 6 months, there is a better way to do this? what are your workflows?
[03:35] <ibfrog> late to the conversation but trying to keep up ... whats bumblebee?
[03:35] <Roey> Hello, I have a PPA that overrides my main Oneiric installation.  How do I pin it so that I download the packages from the PPA by default?  apt-get is refusing to see past the package in the main installation.   https://launchpad.net/~lekensteyn/+archive/wacom-tablet?field.series_filter=oneiric
[03:36] <zoeymarie> Is it possible to hide network locations for a user on my system? I don't want them to be able to see the Places/Network at all, if possible... gconf? chmod?
[03:36] <erujolc> some switcher, power management controller, early days project to enable full support for laptops with integrated and discrete ati/nvidia cards
[03:36] <L3top> It is an application to switch back and forth between integrated and discreet gpus on intel/nvidia dual gpu laptops
[03:36] <L3top> I believe they are nvidia only.
[03:36] <ibfrog> interesting, thanks L3top
[03:37] <ibfrog> zoeymarie, what do you mean by hide network locations?
[03:37] <L3top> switcheroo I think addresses the ati/ati cards... not particularly sure. We just force over the better gpu in all cases for our stuff.
[03:38] <erujolc> at the expense of battery life?
[03:38] <zoeymarie> ibfrog, like, when you click "places," and the "network" folder, we have a bunch of different things to connect to--I'm pretty sure none of our clients would be able to connect to them anyways, but I don't even want them to know they are there (so they don't try...)
[03:38] <L3top> we are graphics oriented. We don't care about your battery. We would prefer you not use laptops at all, but if you do, we force the big guns.
[03:39] <L3top> we need compositing etc
[03:39] <erujolc> understandable scenario
[03:39] <ActionParsnip> cordoval_: try running:  apt-get -f install    in a root recovery console
[03:39] <ActionParsnip> cordoval_: I suggest you look into a backup system
[03:40] <ibfrog> zoeymarie, what version of ubuntu / gnome are you running?
[03:40] <zoeymarie> ibfrog, 10.04 (Lucid) and GNOME2
[03:41] <cordoval_> ActionParsnip: boot recovery console is my terminal from the cd live right?-
[03:41] <ibfrog> I'm on unity and 12.04... trying to remember what GNOME2 ended up looking like
[03:41] <ActionParsnip> cordoval_: no, just hold shift at boot, choose recovery mode, select root
[03:41] <ibfrog> my other system is running gnome-shell and not helping
[03:41] <cordoval_> oh but what if i cannot get that far?
[03:41] <ActionParsnip> cordoval_: then you'll need to chroot from liveCD
[03:42] <ibfrog> zoeymarie, is the places->network a list of file shares?
[03:42] <cordoval_> hmm i am burning USB with 12.04 now
[03:42] <cordoval_> almost done, i guess from there i can do things right?
[03:42] <zoeymarie> ibfrog, yes, I believe so.
[03:42] <Athanasius> it'd be really nice if, for the first 2 weeks after a new version of ubuntu was released, they only allowed retrieving of isos via torrent. Prevent the mirrors from being overloaded to hell and back :(
[03:42] <cpatrick08> ibfrog, you can install mate it you want the look and feel of gnome 2 http://wiki.mate-desktop.org/download#ubuntu_precise_pangolin_1204_repository
[03:42] <ActionParsnip> cordoval_: yes in a chroot the commands will be runing on the installed OS.
[03:42] <datruth> in /etc/fstab I have an UUID how can I find the UUID of my other partitions?
[03:42] <Kreaz> hi, i have a problem install ccsm, after I uninstalled GNOME 3. http://paste.ubuntu.com/948884/
[03:42] <Kreaz> ubuntu: 11.04
[03:42] <ibfrog> cpatrick08, thanks for the link... checking now
[03:43] <ActionParsnip> cpatrick08: or use xfce for a desktop that is supported here
[03:43] <cpatrick08> no problem
[03:43] <cpatrick08> ActionParsnip, true
[03:43] <|Anthony|> is there any benefit to having IPv6 enabled?
[03:43] <erujolc> datruth, blkid
[03:43] <aFeijo> hi guys
[03:43] <ibfrog> mate is a gnome2 compatability layer of sorts?
[03:43] <Roey> hey anyone here know apt preference pinning?
[03:43] <throwaway_rq> If I dont want to run unity, what's the best alternative for gnome interface?
[03:43] <ActionParsnip> ibfrog: its an unofficial fork
[03:44] <ActionParsnip> throwaway_rq: there is no 'best' anything
[03:44] <aFeijo> can I enable the app swapper effects (super+w, super+tab, etc.) without 3d graphic enabled?
[03:44] <yeik> |Anthony|, There can be, but it depends on what you want it for.
[03:44] <throwaway_rq> gnome-fallback-session?
[03:44] <erujolc> throwawa_rq, xfce imho
[03:44] <ActionParsnip> throwaway_rq: install xfce4 package, log off, log in to xfce session and use that
[03:44] <ibfrog> hrm... tempting... I've been trying to bend gnome-shell to my needs but its been a battle so far
[03:44] <datruth> erujolc: awesome thx
[03:44] <throwaway_rq> ActionParsnip: i shall rephrase, i mean ANOTHER alternative, doesn't have to be best
[03:44] <throwaway_rq> xfce, thanks.
[03:44] <cordoval_> ActionParsnip: will the apt'get be destructive of my data?
[03:44] <ActionParsnip> cordoval_: no it just updates the package
[03:44] <throwaway_rq> do i need to apt-get it, erujolc?
[03:44] <Kreaz> hi, i have a problem install ccsm, after I uninstalled GNOME 3. http://paste.ubuntu.com/948884/, it said: Broken Package, (Ubuntu 11.04)
[03:45] <ActionParsnip> cordoval_: again, get a backup
[03:45] <throwaway_rq> best way to make a bootable disc is dd if=iso of=/dev/sdx?
[03:45] <throwaway_rq> bootable usb*
[03:45] <ibfrog> zoeymarie, why are you trying to restrict network->places again?
[03:45] <Athanasius> it's always good to backup but apt-get will basically never destroy your data. If you foul something up like turning off your computer in the middle of installing packages bad things can happen but anything that's in /home should still remain intact
[03:45] <erujolc> unetbootin or startup disk creator
[03:45] <Athanasius> throwaway_rq: yes
[03:46] <throwaway_rq> erujolc: unetbootin doesn't support latest iso
[03:46] <Athanasius> throwaway_rq: just make absolutely sure you don't typo sdx
[03:46] <socrates_johnson> L3top: if i may interject, so is it possible to run the nvidia card (in the optimus setup) at all times without a problem? my laptop is basically always plugged in so battery is not a huge concern of mine
[03:46] <erujolc> although unetbootin has just failed for me so trying
[03:46] <erujolc> ah that would be why then
[03:46] <erujolc> lol
[03:46] <throwaway_rq> Athanasius: merci, yeah, i did that and i killed my macbook's efs a while ago
[03:46] <throwaway_rq> and it wont boot now
[03:46] <throwaway_rq> killed /dev/rdisk0
[03:46] <Athanasius> ouchie
[03:46] <|Anthony|> yeik, well... it's enabled by default. Just wondering if it would be good for me to disable it. My ISP isn't providing me with IPv6 atm.
[03:46] <erujolc> will startup disk creator work from ubuntu 11.10 to create a 12.04 iso? or should i cancel and do dd?
[03:47] <erujolc> s/iso/bootable-usb/
[03:47] <ibfrog> unetbootin worked to create a 12.04 image for me on a a usb stick
[03:47] <ibfrog> thats how I installed my current instance
[03:47] <yeik> |Anthony|, then the ipv6 is internal only unless you install software for ipv6 tunnelling. so then it doesn't matter.
[03:47] <L3top> socrates_johnson: I don't have enough testers with the optimus chipset to tell you for sure that there is no problem, but we do this for other circumstances where an onboard cannot be shutoff.
[03:47] <|Anthony|> also read something yesterday about IPv6 has some security vulnerabilities still
[03:47] <erujolc> hmmm I got 'No Default or UI configuration derivative found\n boot:
[03:47] <erujolc> '
[03:48] <erujolc> probably a fake usb stick to be fair seems super slow for a kingston
[03:48] <ActionParsnip> throwaway_rq: I'd use unetbootin
[03:48] <socrates_johnson> L3top: okay, and it just forces the better graphics configuration at all times?
[03:48] <Athanasius> |Anthony|: Uh. Every networking protocol has vulnerabilities. IPv4 is littered with vulnerabilities a la ARP
[03:48] <yeik> |Anthony|, i don't know if i heard any security vulnerabilities other than the fact that every ipv6 address is acceble externall, so not natted like people are use to.
[03:48] <apies> can i connect fb with xchat ? iam newbie
[03:49] <yeik> accessible*
[03:49] <L3top> socrates_johnson: I handle all of the auto detection stuff... so basically if there are two cards, I install appropriate drivers for the second, we generate our own xorg from scratch and I set the BusID.
[03:49] <Athanasius> apies: uh, no
[03:49] <erujolc> whats fb?
[03:49] <Athanasius> facebook I assume
[03:49] <apies> facebook
[03:49] <SamEEE> lawl
[03:49] <Athanasius> speaking of which, what's the unity thing that lets you get facebook notifications on the desktop
[03:49] <erujolc> yikes, hopefully not
[03:49] <wylde> Athanasius: *shudder* you mean gwibber?
[03:49] <ActionParsnip> apies: you may be able to forward the chat using bitlbee
[03:50] <SamEEE> apies - if anyone would know it would be #xchat
[03:50] <Athanasius> I think so
[03:50] <apies> i get install pidgin but in applications list no pidgin there
[03:50] <Kreaz> Athanasius: do you mean the notification on taskbar/widget on desktop?
[03:50] <apies> yes
[03:50] <ActionParsnip> apies: try pressing ALT+F2 and type 'pidgin'
[03:50] <yeik> apies, unity? or something else, pidgin is under internet
[03:50] <apies> ubuntu 10.04
[03:50] <socrates_johnson> L3top: okay. sorry, i'm not too great at this stuff. if i just install ubuntu without the proprietary nvidia drivers will it use the better card full-time by default?
[03:50] <ibfrog> Athanasius, smells like gwibber to me
[03:51] <|Anthony|> Athanasius, there will always be chinks in the armor so to speak. I was sleepy when i was reading and don't remember the particulars. But yeik makes an interesting statement
[03:51] <Lambda3> I am currently trying to install ubuntu, but apparently, I can't have more than 4 primary partitions on my hdd. I need some help in figuring out what partition I could get rid of. I am thinking about getting rid of the ntfs partition that is 200 mb large and has a boot flag. If I delete this partition, would I be unable to boot up windows, even after the ubuntu bootloader is installed?
[03:51] <ActionParsnip> Lambda3: 200Mb isn't enoungh to hold Ubuntu
[03:51] <cordoval_> where are the md5 numbers for iso_
[03:51] <cordoval_> cannot find them on the website
[03:51] <ibfrog> Lambda3, lots of questions on that ....
[03:51] <cordoval_> url anyone please?
[03:51] <L3top> socrates_johnson: No. It will almost certainly use the integrated intel. Our project is not standard.
[03:51] <erujolc> socreators_johnson, if enabled in the BIOS i presume it will use the open source nvidia drivers, you'll then get a prompt to install the closed faster drivers under 'Additioanl drivers' afaik
[03:51] <|Anthony|> Lambda3, consider extended partitions
[03:51] <Lambda3> No, I mean I would delete that partition and resize the one holding my windows files
[03:51] <ibfrog> there are extended partitions you can use to hold additional data
[03:52] <Kreaz> make a logical partition maybe?
[03:52] <yeik> |Anthony|, you don't have anything to really worry about if your isp doesn't provide support. I wish mine did so I could get it set up with ipv6 and learn firewalls for it. should improve proper security instead of relying on NAT
[03:52] <erujolc> i stand corrected
[03:52] <ActionParsnip> cordoval_: http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/releases/precise/release/
[03:52] <dforthman> is there a way to make it so when i'm pressing alt to heal myself in wow, it doesn't think i'm pressing a key to do something with the window it's running in?
[03:52] <ActionParsnip> cordoval_: couldn't find that with websearches?
[03:52] <Lambda3> Yeah, I want to do that, but in order to do that, i have to first delete a partition because an extended partition is considered a primary partition
[03:52] <L3top> You cannot disable the integrated card though, and it will likely install for and use it... installing the nvidia driver will not magically find the nvidia card. The nvidia works through the integrated, so integrated cannot be disabled
[03:52] <ActionParsnip> Lambda3: I guess taht would fly, why not :)
[03:52] <ibfrog> I tend to use (1) boot (2) swap (3) root (4) extended (x1) windows (x2) home
[03:53] <ibfrog> I think.. .. been a while since I've dual booted
[03:53] <apies> anyone use street os ?
[03:53] <ibfrog> actually... I think swap was in the extended the last time I tried this
[03:53] <Lambda3> My 3rd and 4th partitions are the windows recovery partition and a fat32 partition called "HP_TOOLS"
[03:53] <Athanasius> heh. My laptop is 75GB /, 4GB swap.
[03:53] <Athanasius> s/laptop/netbook/
[03:53] <m4t> hey, is there a way to hide the MessagingMenu completely? sure, you can remove empathy/thunderbird
[03:53] <m4t> but the whole thing?
[03:53] <Lambda3> I don't know what the last one does, so I don't want to delete it.
[03:54]  * m4t doesn't use.
[03:54] <Lambda3> which leaves only the current boot partition
[03:54]  * m4t uses irc
[03:54] <Fyodorovna> ibfrog, windows should be primary at least the OS, and no boot partition is needed on a mbr setup.
[03:55] <ibfrog> oh right right
[03:55] <wylde> Lambda3: just a quick question, did you back up all your data from windows before starting this? ;)
[03:55] <ibfrog> like I said... been a while
[03:55] <Lambda3> I suppose a better question would be does the ubuntu bootloader boot windows itself or does it defer to another partition to boot it up?
[03:55] <socrates_johnson> erujolc: okay thanks. my laptop boots about 20% of the time, but i feel better about the upgrade now once it finishes dying. (the optimus issues is a little unnerving for me, but the i7/price is too good for a grad student to pass up)
[03:55] <datruth> cool got that going
[03:55] <Fyodorovna> ibfrog, put windows on the first partition, easier to fix.
[03:55] <apies> my camera drivers not work in ubuntu 10.04
[03:55] <Lambda3> wyld, of course! :) I actually just got my laptop today, so I have everything backed up.
[03:55] <Lambda3> wylde*
[03:56] <ibfrog> btw: Fyodorovna when did the boot partition go away... used to be standard in gentoo and it seems like its all compressed to the root partition in ubuntu
[03:56] <wylde> Lambda3: I swear that's the first positive I've gotten to that question for a long while! *claps*
[03:56] <cordoval_> ActionParsnip: cannot find my file name there 128f0c16f4734c42....52
[03:56] <Fyodorovna> ibfrog, not sure really.
[03:56] <cordoval_> it does not match any name and nor checksum
[03:56] <Waraudon> Okay I think I finally got everything working.
[03:56] <throwaway_rq> side question - does windows has somethign liek "sync" command in ubuntu (to flush buffer)
[03:56]  * ibfrog hasn't dual booted in ages
[03:56] <Waraudon> What's the recommended way to save iptables rules in Ubuntu and restore them at boot?
[03:56] <cordoval_> mine was ubuntu 12'04 desktop amd64
[03:56] <ibfrog> but the ubuntu method seems to work so far
[03:57] <allure> I'm having the same issue as this guy (http://askubuntu.com/questions/125500/upgrade-to-12-04-failed-due-to-held-back-packages) to update to 12.02 from 11.10. Does anyone have any idea on how to update then? :)
[03:57] <Lambda3> Haha, well, I'm not a complete noob. I've been using ubuntu for like 4-5 years now; although, I admit I don't know a lot about setting it up because I never had trouble with it before and had to learn all about it
[03:57] <Fyodorovna> ibfrog, the ubuntu and most linux will run in the extended.
[03:57] <Fyodorovna> probably all  linux just not sure ibfrog
[03:57] <BlueClaw> Is there a program that can tell me what is currently running? I tried to open a program and think it might be running in the background.
[03:57] <cordoval_> ActionParsnip:  ok it matches with a friend
[03:57] <cordoval_> so i am rebooting and will try with usb
[03:58] <throwaway_rq> BlueClaw: htop
[03:58] <Athanasius> Is there an ubuntu command for "automatically install everything I need to build this package from source"? like apt-something rtorrent; apt-get source rtorrent; cd rtorrent-whatever; ./configure
[03:58] <socrates_johnson> L3top: thank you for the insight and for your patience
[03:58] <sfears> BlueClaw: top
[03:58] <xangua> !compile | Athanasius
[03:58] <sfears> top | grep <program name>
[03:58] <BlueClaw> sfears: thanks!
[03:59] <ibfrog> yeah... I'm sure linux will run in extended... I just didn't follow the move to get rid of a boot partition.   Kinda seems like its an isolation method that ubuntu / canonical decided to get rid of more than anything else
[03:59] <apies> where can i find drivers camera ubuntu ?
[03:59] <yeik> BlueClaw, ps -aux | grep <program name> might work better
[03:59] <Kreaz> apies: google
[03:59] <throwaway_rq> xfce doesnt' come bundled in the mainstream iso right?
[03:59] <wylde> Athanasius: 'apt-get source packagename; sudo apt-get build-dep packagename;
[03:59] <apies> kreaz. i tried but not work
[03:59] <Mango_Man> i'm getting this when running a helloworld opengl program: freeglut (./Tut 01 Main): glXCreateContextAttribsARB not found
[03:59] <Athanasius> danke wylde
[03:59] <Kreaz> apies: what cam drivers?
[03:59] <Mango_Man> help?
[04:00] <f0x> does gnome classic support transparency?
[04:00] <apies> if on windows lenovo easy camera
[04:00] <L3top> socrates_johnson: ok if I pm?
[04:00] <len_> throwaway, it's on the xubuntu iso
[04:00] <ibfrog> f0x, what do you mean by gnome classic?
[04:00] <Fyodorovna> ibfrog, you a conspiracy fan. :)
[04:00] <throwaway_rq> len_: thanks. I guess i'll have to apt-get it then.
[04:00] <ruffleS> can anyone help me out here? i'd like to know whether or not this bug's been reported already. when you "aerosnap" a window to the sides and then try to move it out of its position window goes way bellow mouse cursor. (on ubuntu 12.04 unity)
[04:00] <ibfrog> Fyodorovna, not intentionally... I've just been curious about the switch
[04:01] <ibfrog> =]
[04:01] <f0x> ibfrog, gnome-fallback-session in 12.04
[04:01] <f0x> because in 11.10 it doesn't
[04:01] <Kreaz> apies: have you tried on lenovo site for linux support?
[04:01] <Kreaz> (official site)
[04:01] <ActionParsnip> ibfrog: omgubuntu has a how o to make 12.04 look like Gnome2
[04:02] <ibfrog> wow ruffleS thats new in 12.04
[04:02] <ibfrog> 11.0X didn't have that issue
[04:02] <ruffleS> ibfrog it does now and it is highly annoying
[04:02] <ruffleS> ibfrog could you reproduce it?
[04:02] <ibfrog> just tried it out and the aero move to the side does the height maximize
[04:02] <socrates_johnson> L3top: yes
[04:02] <ibfrog> moving away from that retains the porportions of the height maximize
[04:03] <brolman2> \part
[04:03] <vicatcu> hi all - i seem to have killed my computer by trying to upgrade to 12.04, can anyone help?
[04:03] <wylde> *shakes head* Bug #989379
[04:03] <ibfrog> moving the window down jumps the window far below the cursor and restores the original size before you did the aero-resize to the side of the screen
[04:03] <Fyodorovna> ibfrog, I picture shuttleworth and his honchos sitting around mark says take away their boot partition cackles a muhaha and the sinister organ music starts.
[04:03] <cordoval_> anyone with an assus g73jw do they can boot on usb stick?
[04:03] <ibfrog> Fyodorovna, hahaha
[04:03] <cordoval_> it says like atheros agent, some weird names and options but it is not picking up usb
[04:04] <vicatcu> pretty please?
[04:04] <yeik> cordoval_,  almost any newer computer should be able to boot usb
[04:04]  * Kreaz is away (OFFLINE)
[04:04] <ruffleS> ibfrog exactly
[04:04] <wylde> !details | vicatcu
[04:04] <ibfrog> I'm kinda new to the #ubuntu community but any theory that involves organ music and sinister themes is ok by me
[04:04] <yeik> cordoval_, usually there is an option, like f10, f8, or esq to get a boot menu
[04:04] <ruffleS> ibfrog i've been trying to find this bug report on launchpad with no luck so far
[04:04] <ibfrog> it might not be there but I can replicate
[04:05] <Athanasius> ooooooooh checkinstall looks quite handy
[04:05] <BlueClaw> throwaway_rq: Thanks, that program looks like what I wanted.
[04:05] <ibfrog> ruffleS, think this was fixed in 11.0x but I've been running gnome-shell there and it acts different
[04:05] <wylde> Athanasius: checkinstall is VERY handy :)
[04:05] <vicatcu> when i try to start ubuntu i get the following error: mountall: /lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/libc.so.6: version 'GLIBC_2.14' not found (required by /lib/libply.so.2) General error mounting filesystems. A maintenance shell will now be started. CONTROL-D will terminate this shell and reboot the system.
[04:05] <ruffleS> ibfrog i've tried this on gnome-shell and bug doesn't apply there..
[04:05] <ruffleS> only on unity
[04:06] <vicatcu> the installer crashed while updating from 11.10 to 12.04 and here we are
[04:06] <ActionParsnip> vicatcu: could use liveCD and chroot, then update the OS there?
[04:06] <Athanasius> Of course first I have to wait for all the deps to download at 5KB/s
[04:06] <wylde> vicatcu: I all honesty, it's probably best if you use a live CD/USB to boot and backup your data. Then do a fresh install.
[04:07] <SamEEE> apies - google
[04:07] <wylde> vicatcu: or what ActionParsnip said
[04:07] <cordoval_> error is > Checking battery state... starting git'daemon[ unknown id [ git failure unknown id[ git
[04:07] <yuri__> Alright. I was burning a dvd to iso and had to access the control panel. Now bombono has decided to stop burning mid-stream. Is this normal?
[04:07] <ruffleS> ibfrog could you please help me report that bug? as english isn't my first language i don't think i would be able to describe the scenario as i should
[04:07] <kfizz> I have a home partition and I'm trying to do manual partitioning, however idk if I should Mark my home or / as bootable. Any suggestions?
[04:08] <cordoval_> Action i am at gnu grub
[04:08] <cordoval_> i can see recover mode
[04:08] <cordoval_> is that it? i was not able to boot from usb yet
[04:08] <cordoval_> it is just the ubuntu
[04:08] <cordoval_> will try recover mode
[04:08] <ibfrog> ruffleS, I suppose I could ...  I've never lodged an ubuntu bug before and I wasn't planning on running unity for much longer
[04:08] <vicatcu> ok i just threw in my 11.10 installation cd
[04:09] <vicatcu> what is chroot though
[04:09] <cordoval_> should i go to drop toroot shell prompt?
[04:09] <ibfrog> kfizz, bootable shoudl go to the partition that contains the bootloader... which is / unless you have a /boot partition
[04:10] <koffel> hello
[04:10] <sfears> hello koffel
[04:10] <koffel> how are ya
[04:11] <BOYPT> koffel: hello
[04:11] <sfears> concious
[04:11] <kfizz> Ibfrog, I have an old / partition but I want to install a new / partition and copy the old data from / only as necessary. Should I create a new / partition, make it primary and bootable and change the old / to logical?
[04:11] <cordoval_> ActionParsnip: i am going to the dpkg
[04:11] <koffel> does ubuntu have zwave lighting drivers?
[04:12] <BOYPT> kfizz: in fact grub doesn't care about the bootable flag
[04:12] <BOYPT> kfizz: primary or not dsn't matter
 i've booted from a livecd...now what is this chroot business you speek of
[04:13] <kfizz> Byopt, As long as it's mounted at / it will recognize it as such?
[04:13] <Dougie187> I'm having trouble installing 12.04. The installer is stalling close to the end (during "installing system") and my syslogs indicate it's an issue with getting the nvidia_current_updates package.
[04:13] <sfears> vicatcu: what are you trying to do?
[04:13] <BOYPT> kfizz: yep
[04:13] <vicatcu> get my computer back to bootable
[04:13] <vicatcu> it crashed while i was upgrading from 11.10 to 12.04
[04:14] <Dougie187> To help, it seems like this bug report is my issue, but I don't understand what the resolution is. https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/jockey/+bug/917604
[04:15] <vicatcu> sfears: can you help me?
[04:15] <sfears> maybe
[04:15] <cordoval_> it is running the dpkg
[04:15] <sfears> do you know how to mount partitions?
[04:15] <cordoval_> hmm
[04:16] <sfears> do you know how to mount partitions vicatcu?
[04:16] <Trenchcoat_Guy> hello world
[04:16] <yuri__> Alright. Never mind. It regained control of the data stream. Back to rendering. Bye. :)
[04:16] <Roey> sbrk() sbrk() sbrk()!!
[04:16] <ibfrog>  btw:  anyone know how to debug alsa / pulseaudio issues?  I can't seem to get any audio out of my mother board
[04:17] <datruth> I have a partition I want to share between two OS's does the file system need to be fat32 or ntfs?
[04:17] <vicatcu> sfears: i'm pretty good with unix in general, it's just the mount command right?
[04:17] <sfears> ibfrog, you probably have the wrong device selected in the sound control panel
[04:17] <ibfrog> sfears, I've tried all three
[04:17] <cordoval_> looks like i just needed dpkg
[04:17] <cordoval_> man this is so cool, i hope it fixes it
[04:17] <sfears> yeah vicatcu, mount /dev/sd? (broken system) /mnt
[04:17] <ibfrog> test sounds don't work with any of them selected
[04:17] <cordoval_> ubuntu ftw
[04:18] <ibfrog> datruth, fat32 is the safest bet
[04:18] <ActionParsnip> cordoval_: sweet
[04:18] <linuxuz3r> is 12.04 out yet
[04:18] <cordoval_> ActionParsnip: i really hope this works man, ruffleS yeah man
[04:18] <ibfrog> I think you can write to ntfs but the last time I tried it, it wasn't exactly perfect
[04:18] <datruth> linuxuz3r: yes
[04:18] <linuxuz3r> how is it
[04:18] <linuxuz3r> good spify fast
[04:18] <linuxuz3r> ?
[04:18] <vicatcu> sfears: mount /dev/sda7 /mnt
[04:18] <vicatcu> ?
[04:18] <datruth> ibfrog: great thanks I need to use gparted to format that parition on a live cd?
[04:19] <ibfrog> datruth, what are you trying to do again?
[04:20] <sfears> vicatcu: mount -t proc proc /mnt/proc
[04:20] <sfears> and the same for sysfs and boot
[04:21] <vicatcu> sfears: i'm getting "only root can do that"
[04:21] <sfears> if boot is on a different partition you'll have to mount that as well and adjust the syntax
[04:21] <vicatcu> and i'm booted from a live cd
[04:21] <sfears> you need to be root for all this vicatcu
[04:21] <sfears> just sudo su
[04:21] <sfears> should make you root
[04:22] <sfears> there is no password
[04:22] <vicatcu> svears: ok mount -t proc proc /mnt/proc gives me
[04:22] <vicatcu> mount point /mnt/proc does not exist
[04:22] <datruth> ibfrog: share a partition with two os's
[04:22] <marcuspbaird> hey how do i get geekshed in xchat gnome
[04:22] <sfears> vicatcu: try mount -o bind /proc /mnt/proc
[04:22] <ruffleS> ibfrog: ok here's the bug report https://bugs.launchpad.net/unity/+bug/989389
[04:22] <ibfrog> datruth, gparted will get you in the right direction but it kinda depends on how your drive is currently laid out
[04:23] <vicatcu> no dice, same error /mnt/proc does not exist
[04:23] <sfears> then you have the wrong partition mounted to /mnt?
[04:23] <ibfrog> ruffleS, responding to it now
[04:23] <sfears> what does ls /mnt say?
[04:24] <ruffleS> ibfrog thank you
[04:24] <vicatcu> sfears: there's nothing there..
[04:24] <sfears> i'd say you have the wrong partition mounted
[04:24] <sfears> umount /mnt
[04:25] <vicatcu> maybe what i'm doing is not a livecd
[04:25] <sfears> fdisk -l to find your / partition
[04:25] <vicatcu> i chose "try ubuntu" from the installer
[04:25] <L3top> datruth: did anyone ever answer you?
[04:25] <sfears> yeah, open a terminal vicatcu
[04:25] <datruth> L3top: on the partition question yes. ibfrog did
[04:25] <vicatcu> as in restart, or just open a terminal
[04:25] <L3top> k
[04:25] <datruth> ibfrog: what do you mean laid out?
[04:25] <sfears> just open a terminal so you can type some commands
[04:26] <vicatcu> because i've already got a terminal open and have sudo su'ed in it
[04:26] <vicatcu> yea i'm there
[04:26] <sfears> okay
[04:26] <sfears> fdisk -l vicatcu
[04:26] <ibfrog> datruth, gparted will let you repartition your drive but you may have to use other tools to resize existing paritions unless you are starting from a clean drive
[04:26] <Thrasher194> oh yay 12.04 saved the day
[04:26] <sfears> one of those is your / partition, do you know which one
[04:27] <vicatcu> sfears: well theres sda1 through sda7
[04:28] <vicatcu> sfears one has System = Linux
[04:28] <datruth> ibfrog: hrmm the drive in question has a partiton on it that I formated to ext4 thinking it would be sharable across win7 and kubuntu so in theory I should be able to reformat that partion as ntfs or fat32 and the partition should be available via win7 and kubuntu yes?
[04:28] <vicatcu> sfears; seems like a good bet
[04:28] <sfears> only one vicatcu?
[04:28] <sfears> yeah, which one?
[04:28] <vicatcu> sfears: sda6, and sda7 is Linux swap / Solaris
[04:28] <sfears> okay, umount /mnt
[04:28] <sfears> and mount /dev/sda6 /mnt
[04:29] <vicatcu> sfears done
[04:29] <ibfrog> datruth, yup as long as you don't care about any data already on that partition you should be able to reset the partition type and rebuild the filesystem (mkefs.fat32 I think is the command)
[04:29] <sfears> ls /mnt should have your / folders
[04:29] <datruth> gotcha
[04:29] <vicatcu> sfears right on, yes it does
[04:30] <goddard> how go the upgrade from 11.10 to 12.04?
[04:30]  * datruth is going to re-install kubuntu on the new image i just downloaded
[04:30] <sfears> okay mount -t proc proc /mnt/proc
[04:30] <vicatcu> sfears: done
[04:30] <sfears> mount -t sysfs sys /mnt/sys
[04:31] <vicatcu> sfears: done
[04:31] <ruffleS> ibfrog did you see it?
[04:31] <sfears> mount -t boot boot /mnt/boot
[04:31] <sfears> does that mount correctally?
[04:32] <L3top> mount -t devpts /dev/pts
[04:32] <vicatcu> sears: unknown filesystem type 'boot'
[04:32] <sfears> mount -o bind /boot /mnt/boot
[04:33] <vicatcu> sfears: ok done
[04:33] <sfears> sudo mount -o bind /dev /mnt/dev
[04:34] <uBUxUBu> is 64bit ubuntu desktop faster than 32 bit...even if they both have the same amount of ram?
[04:34] <vicatcu> sfears: ok done
[04:34] <ibfrog> ruffleS, posted.  For what its worth your english is pretty good.  your description was accurate and to the point
[04:34] <sfears> cp -L /etc/resolv.conf /mnt/etc/resolv.conf
[04:34] <L3top> some things will have a marginal increase in speed uBUxUBu
[04:34] <sfears> make sure your connected to the internet and then cp -L /etc/resolv.conf /mnt/etc/resolv.conf
[04:35] <L3top> unlikely to make a real impact on your life uBUxUBu
[04:35] <vicatcu> sfears: ok done
[04:35] <ruffleS> ibfrog thanks! i just hope this will get fixed in time for 12.10. thank you for taking your time to help me out. cheers!
[04:35] <linuxuz3r> uBUxUBu, i think it depends on the speed of your processor
[04:35] <uBUxUBu> hmmm, for some reasons, some tests claim its a lot faster, others say what you said L3top
[04:35] <sfears> you were connected to the net first vicatcu?
[04:35] <vicatcu> yea
[04:36] <uBUxUBu> my processor on the machine in question is a 3.4 HT P4
[04:36] <uBUxUBu> 4 g ram
[04:36] <linuxuz3r> uBUxUBu, hi
[04:36] <linuxuz3r> i think that cant run 64bit
[04:36] <vicatcu> sfears: yea i have network and can browse the web
[04:36] <sfears> okay, chroot /mnt /bin/bash
[04:37] <uBUxUBu> i noticed in the bios it says 64 bit though
[04:37] <vicatcu> sfears: ok done
[04:37] <biobunsai> Oh let me guess..no screen saver again!!!!
[04:37] <sfears> okay, your running on your crashed machine
[04:37] <sfears> issue commands like apt-get update and apt-get upgrade
[04:37] <rinzler> anybody have any experience with tilp2, or know where to find someone who does?
[04:37] <sfears> should start downloading and updating everything vicatcu
[04:38] <uBUxUBu> linux4u, unless dell put a 64 bit mobo with a cpu that cant do 64 bit?
[04:38] <ibfrog> rinzler, what is tilp2?
[04:38] <vicatcu> sfears: ok apt-get update running currently
[04:38] <ibfrog> rinzler, TI com program?
[04:38] <rinzler> ibfrog: yep
[04:38] <sfears> or maybe dist-upgrade or might have to dpkg something to recover where it lost it last time
[04:38] <ibfrog> neat tool but I haven't run it :/
[04:38] <borillion> anyone have any experience setting up web hosts that are secure?
[04:39] <vicatcu> libc6 ?
[04:39] <Fyodorovna> sfears, maybe  sudo apt-get -f install   to unlock their original upgrade if locked
[04:39] <goddard> how go the upgrade from 11.10 to 12.04?
[04:39] <vicatcu> sfears: any ideas how to figure out what is b0rk3d?
[04:39] <goddard> what is the best way to upgrade?
[04:39] <sfears> yeah, your in there as long as you don't reboot or exit from your terminal session
[04:40] <sfears> vicatcu: just try apt-get upgrade and see if it errors
[04:40] <vicatcu> sfears: ok will do
[04:40] <ActionParsnip> goddard: there is no best, just options
[04:40] <ActionParsnip> !upgrade | goddard
[04:40] <sfears> it should put you in a state to reboot into your system and dist upgrade from the gui when you get there
[04:41] <vexaxv> hey guys i need some programming help
[04:41] <Thrasher194> i got the full 12.04 64bit dvd. and did a clean install.
[04:41] <jok1> trouble using winusb http://pastebin.com/uGMRqLyF
[04:42] <schultza_> what java client should i get?
[04:42] <ian_> FUUUUUU
[04:42] <anathema_> hi guys, in my netbook i have some linux and one windows distro, im trying to setup ubuntu but in the installer it shows only /dev/sda and not the partitions. Is the partition table broken? Grub works correctly with the distros :(
[04:42] <ian_> everyone liste
[04:42] <ian_> listen
[04:42] <ian_> i just installed the 12.04
[04:42] <ian_> but it wont load and shows a black screen
[04:42] <vicatcu> sfears: ok so apt-get upgrade instructed me that dpkg was interrupted and i must run sudo dpkg --configure -a, so i did
[04:43] <ian_> im here cuz i used a old version in the start up
[04:43] <schultza> !java
[04:43] <borillion> ian_ boot in vga mode
[04:43] <ian_> how?
[04:43] <vicatcu> sfears: subsequent to that, running apt-get upgrade fails with unmet dependencies
[04:43] <sfears> yeah, sounds like video drivers ian_
[04:43] <ian_> k so you can help me with it?
[04:43] <vicatcu> sfears: rerunning apt-get upgrade with -f optin
[04:44] <biobunsai> ok how do I get my screen savers back?
[04:44] <sfears> you may have to wait until kubuntu server traffic dies down, maybe some of the packages are unavailable becauase the servers are overloaded right now
[04:44] <ian_> Please? when i boot the 12.04, everying is fine until the sign up...  after i sign its blackout
[04:44] <aarcane> does anyone else actually answer FloodBot1 in #ubuntu-unregged?
[04:45] <sfears> ian_ do you have an external or alternate monitor to use
[04:45] <sfears> it may be your monitor refresh rate ian_.
[04:45] <cemc> hi. I have 4GB of RAM in my laptop. is it worth installing 64bit 12.04 ?
[04:45] <ian_> nope my pc is on a HP  montior
[04:45] <sfears> lcd ian_?
[04:45] <mcdonc> cemc: that's plenty
[04:45] <ian_> yeah i think
[04:45] <ian_> but im not sure
[04:46] <mcdonc> and 64 bit still runs flash and whatnot
[04:46] <ian_> everything was fine like 3-4 ans of use before the 12.04
[04:46] <ian_> *years
[04:46] <sfears> i have that problem with one of my lcd monitors, i have to hook up a crt monitor to change the refresh rate and then hook the lcd back up
[04:46] <cemc> mcdonc: I see. thanks
[04:46] <ian_> with the 12.04?
[04:47] <L3top> ian_: what are the chances this is an nvidia gpu
[04:47] <sfears> you can boot into a live cd session and manually change the refresh rate in the xorg config, but i'm not exactally sure where the setting is ian_
[04:47] <ian_> yes lol its a nvidia car i think with amd motherboard
[04:47] <ian_> i don't have a live cd :(
[04:47] <sfears> maybe try the nomodeset option at grub boot ian_
[04:48] <sfears> at the grub menu type c for command prompt to appear. then type nomodeset and hit enter
[04:48] <ian_> "nomodset" only?
[04:48] <ian_> okay
[04:48] <sfears> yeah, that will help if it's a driver issue, not if it's refresh rate though
[04:48] <ian_> ok sounds good
[04:48] <ian_> i'll be back
[04:48] <aarcane> cemc, it's always worth installing 64 bit if your CPU supports it.
[04:49] <sfears> ian_:
[04:49] <sfears> nomodeset
[04:49] <ian_> yes
[04:49] <ian_> brb
[04:49] <chris215> msg nickserv identify themarlboroman
[04:49] <sfears> chris, you forgot to / the msg
[04:49] <chris215> i know
[04:49] <chris215> lol changing pword now
[04:50] <sfears> ha
[04:50] <JayWalker__> so I guess I'm not the only one having problems with 12.04. After installing nvidia drivers, unity/compiz crashes on login. And my sound doesnt work, when it did with 10.04
[04:50] <chris215> plz nobody be mean
[04:50] <chris215> lol
[04:50] <sfears> vicatcu: how's it going?
[04:50] <vicatcu> sfears: upgrade still running
[04:50] <chris215> it was a nice password while it lasted...  not very crafty but fun to type
[04:50] <halfie> hi, i have installed ubuntu 12.04 but I can't hear any sound on headphones connected to SB XFI sound card. Should I file a bug?
[04:50] <chris215> :(
[04:51] <sfears> sounds like it will work fine, after that finishes you should just be able to reboot vicatcu
[04:51] <vicatcu> sfears: thanks you have been incredibly generous and helpful
[04:52] <ItsMeLenny> i'm sorry but the new unity is extremely buggy, very frustrating, almost unusable, and the gnome classic has its own share
[04:52] <jok1> trouble using winusb http://pastebin.com/uGMRqLyF
[04:52] <sfears> donate my share to your library
[04:53] <sfears> jok1: what are you trying to do?
[04:53] <jok1> sfears, trying to create a bootable win 7 usb
[04:53] <chris215> i was hoping i could free up some space on this computer, only 40 gb hd, by compressing my movie files when im not using them, but i am noticing that in tar.gz form its the same size as the file itself...  is there a compression format that will make the average 700mb movie file fit into a smaller file?
[04:54] <chris215> or is that not really what compression does
[04:54] <A|i3N> So I just install 12.04 - Could someone tell me what package to install to get the Gnome classic interface? I can't seem to find it.
[04:54] <ItsMeLenny> chris215, movie files are already compressed
[04:54] <woo> chris, try 7zip
[04:54] <sfears> chris215: tar -c 9
[04:54] <sfears> maybe increase the compression chris215
[04:54] <roloncito> raven from mexico?
[04:54] <ItsMeLenny> A|i3N, the gnome classic interface is buggy you're probably better of getting http://mate-desktop.org
[04:55] <halfie> hi, i have installed ubuntu 12.04 but I can't hear any sound on headphones connected to SB XFI sound card. Any tips to get sound working?
[04:55] <ItsMeLenny> nice 300mb package
[04:55] <chris215> i know how to put them into a compresed file in the terminal and with nautilus already
[04:55] <zykotick9> !info gnome-session-fallback | A|i3N
[04:55] <sfears> halfie: check each entry in the sound control panel and make sure the correct sound card is at the top of the list
[04:55] <chris215> sfears -c 9 will increase the compreession?
[04:55] <sfears> i think so chris215
[04:56] <sfears> maybe test it first, that may be a gzip flag
[04:56] <redact3d> is the magic lamp minimize animation for compiz broken for anyone else on 12.04?
[04:57] <A|i3N> zykotick9 - That will allow to select gnome classic when I log on?
[04:57] <wylde> chris215: you will gain very little even with maximum compression settings. As someone already said, movies/music/lots of image files are already compressed.
[04:57] <ItsMeLenny> redact3d, everything is broken for me in 12.04, along with my heart
[04:57] <chris215> im reading tar --help now.....  thanks for the tim, i didnt now too much about compression lke that i could increase it...
[04:57] <chris215> oooh i see
[04:57] <sfears> or that
[04:57] <chris215> thanks wylde
[04:57] <zykotick9> A|i3N: it has a gnome icon in lightdm or something, it seems pretty amazing - very gnome2 like.
[04:58] <osmosis> any major bugs found in 12.04 yet?
[04:58] <redact3d> ItsMeLenny, my upgrade wen't very well actually first time it's ever worked. normally i need to hose and start fresh. just that one animation in compiz not working correctly from what i can see
[04:58] <ItsMeLenny> i did a full reinstall
[04:58] <A|i3N> zykotick9 - I don't mind the unity thing, I just want my application menus at the top - is there a way to just get those back? Applications and system menus
[04:58] <sfears> jok1: fdisk -l
[04:58] <ian_> lol sfears
[04:58] <wylde> chris215: np, I store my movies in a squashfs filesystem using xz compression and over 40 GB I gain less than 1GB of space.
[04:58] <zykotick9> A|i3N: i have no idea about unity.  good luck.
[04:58] <ItsMeLenny> and the unity interfaece is nothing but buggy buggy buggy, compared to 11.10
[04:58] <ian_> are you sure thats nomodset?
[04:58] <sfears> what ian_?
[04:59] <sfears> no, nomodeset
[04:59] <ian_> and nomodeset
[04:59] <sfears> your forgetting the e
[04:59] <sfears> that's what i said that last time
[04:59] <sfears> no mode set
[04:59] <ian_> these 2 dosent works
[04:59] <redact3d> ItsMeLenny, yeah i use xfce so i wouldn't know lol
[04:59] <khmerog> hi
[04:59] <ian_> unknown command
[04:59] <jcase> would anyone know how to remove the unity launcher off a second monitor?
[04:59] <sfears> humm.. pause
[04:59] <ljsoftnet> how do i lower my cpu fan speed with thinkfan?
[04:59] <A|i3N> ItsMeLenny - Do you have any idea? I just want my menu bar back. I don't mind using the default desktop, I just want the usual listing of installed applications and system settings, etc
[04:59] <ian_> okay
[04:59] <benpicco> I created a ppa and uploaded the files successfully with dput, but they are not showing up on my ppa website - what am I missing?
[04:59] <chris215> ko wylde ...i was hoping to dl a documentary torrent to watch tonite but it looks like id have to delete one of my favs to do it...  oh well getting a new screen in the mail tomorrow hopefully, then ill have my good laptop back :)
[05:00] <chris215> at least theres xbmc for tonite
[05:00] <chris215> thanks guys
[05:00] <chris215> byw
[05:00] <wylde> chris215:  :)
[05:00] <chris215> bye
[05:00] <sfears> ian_: where are you typing that in?
[05:00] <ian_> in the command kernel
[05:00] <ItsMeLenny> A|i3N,  i dunno what you're talking about
[05:00] <ian_> as you requested
[05:00] <sfears> from grub ian_?
[05:01] <Derpadong> Question, is there a netinstall iso for current ubuntu or no?
[05:01] <woo> going from 10.04 desktop to 12.04 server.  any suggestions or comments?
[05:02] <A|i3N> OK then, anyone - you know how before Unity you had your regular application menus and system menus at the top of the screen on the left - Is there a way to either a: Get those back using Unity on 12.04 or b: install the gnome classic desktop
[05:02] <ian___> sdears yes?
[05:02] <benpicco> A|i3N: install gnome-panel
[05:02] <ian___> it sucks man
[05:02] <sfears> ian___: nomodeset is in there somewhere
[05:03] <ian___> then why its unkown command?
[05:03] <redact3d> A|i3N, use xfce its similar to gnome2 (xubuntu)
[05:03] <A|i3N> benpicco: That'll bring the menu back? I hate having to search for an application using that stupid bar on the left lol I've hated it since they implemented it.
[05:03] <benpicco> A|i3N: to edit the panel and add applets you have to keep alt & alt gr pressed now, seriously
[05:03] <lystra_> Any idea why I have only 3 files in /boot/grub? I installed 12.04 to a second disk.
[05:03] <benpicco> A|i3N: it's the gnome 2 panel ported to gnome 3
[05:04] <benpicco> you will get a 'Gnome Classic' session that you can select on login
[05:04] <A|i3N> OK then lol thank you benpicco that's what I was wanting
[05:04] <ian___> Whyyy?
[05:06] <A|i3N> From what I've been reading I'm not the only one that hates the whole unity interface LOL
[05:06] <ian___> wellll?
[05:06] <ljsoftnet> how do i lower my cpu fan speed with thinkfan?
[05:07] <holmescn> help list
[05:07] <ian___> Anybody can help me?
[05:07] <benpicco> what's your problem?
[05:07] <woo> lj, thats not in ur bios?
[05:07] <ian___> i have a problem with the 12.04
[05:08] <sfears> ian___: did e work?
[05:08] <ian___> when i sign up with the 12.04 it shows only a blak screen but it only shows the mouse pointor
[05:08] <ian___> sfears : no
[05:08] <sfears> from the grub boot menu type e to edit the current boot string
[05:08] <sfears> instead of c for command prompt
[05:09] <sfears> and add nomodeset to the end of the string
[05:09] <ian___> brb
[05:09] <woo> ian, gnome3 might be failing
[05:10] <woo> should auto roll baxk
[05:10] <tridentfish> Hi
[05:10] <sfears> Hi tridentfish
[05:10] <woo> back x*
[05:11] <uBUxUBu> ubuntu is offerning to install dsome friehaufer 3rd party software?? is this ok?
[05:11] <sfears> what is friehaufer 3rd party software?
[05:12] <tridentfish> Is there a way to become a better power user? I know it is off topic and all. I up set you sorry.
[05:12] <sfears> sure tridentfish, study more
[05:12] <woo> then
[05:13] <woo> break stuff
[05:13] <woo> and fix
[05:13] <sfears> yup, break all the things
[05:13] <sfears> and fix most of them
[05:13] <woo> ;)
[05:13] <tridentfish> Sfears is there any good books you would say I should use. Also do I need to learn python to be better off?
[05:14] <sfears> first, english book
[05:14] <sfears> are there any good book I would recomend, not sure... I usually use Google
[05:14] <sfears> ha
[05:14] <sfears> books*
[05:15] <tridentfish> I am sorry it is just that I have been up all night for the past week. Collage bites.
[05:15] <Gotestra> People help.
[05:15] <Grecoo> yes
[05:15] <woo> ok
[05:15] <Grecoo> tell me
[05:15] <sfears> you have things that bite in your collage?
[05:15] <Gotestra> I need some help with Updating Ubuntu to 12.0
[05:15] <Gotestra> Or whatever version it is.
[05:15] <Grecoo> whats wrong?
[05:16] <Gotestra> See, I've got this really slow Internet.
[05:16] <Gotestra> And uh
[05:16] <Gotestra> My download failed.
[05:16] <Gotestra> Now I try again, it gives me a partial upgrade message.
[05:16] <Dan-The-Man> Gotestra, buy the cd
[05:16] <Gotestra> :|
[05:16] <Gotestra> Just lemme finish
[05:16] <taxman> higher internet speed is not worth
[05:16] <woo> server is under pressure at the moment
[05:16] <Grecoo> Gotestra, have you tried downloading from a mirror?
[05:16] <taxman> they always steal your bandwidth
[05:16] <woo> give it a few days
[05:17] <Gotestra> Um just a second
[05:17] <Gotestra> Its not the slow Internet.
[05:17] <Gotestra> My download failed, because my Internet failed.
[05:17] <Gotestra> Stupid ISP.
[05:17] <goddard> ActionParsnip: thats an interesting way of looking at things
[05:17] <sfears> bandwidth like the drive through like the cell phone
[05:17] <Gotestra> Well when I try to resume it by clicking partial upgrade
[05:17] <Gotestra> It gives me an error message
[05:18] <sfears> what error message Gotestra?
[05:18] <Gotestra> Saying another package manager like apt-get or something is running.
[05:18] <Grecoo> well, you shuld close that process
[05:18] <sfears> ohhh, and I assume if you reboot from where you are it won't boot?
[05:18] <Grecoo> or kill it
[05:18] <woo> Got, delete the temp?
[05:18] <woo> or top kill
[05:18] <Gotestra> I'm a n00b and didn't understand any of it?
[05:19] <Gotestra> Kill the process?
[05:19] <Grecoo> ok, ok, no problem
[05:19] <tridentfish> I got ubuntu beta final and I am wondering is it in the public release state yeat.
[05:19] <Grecoo> sudo killall nameoftheprocess
[05:19] <sfears> do you have an upgrade windows open somewhere Gotestra?
[05:19] <Gotestra> Yeah open right now
[05:19] <sfears> your last upgrade didn't close oout properly
[05:19] <Gotestra> Yeah
[05:19] <sfears> close out all of them and click on partial upgrade again
[05:19] <Gotestra> Ohk
[05:19] <Gotestra> Lemme try
[05:20] <sfears> you can only initiate one upgrade at a time
[05:20] <Gotestra> k killed the bitches
[05:20] <sfears> should work for you now
[05:21] <Gotestra> OWUT
[05:21] <tridentfish> Last question how is Ubuntu on the terms of being a way to become good with linux in general. I have a freind who told me to ditch Ubuntu for open suse. What bases would you about it?
[05:21] <Gotestra> yay it worked
[05:22] <Gotestra> Ubuntu is not that annoying when you know how to use it lol
[05:22] <Gotestra> Thanks a lot people :)
[05:22] <sfears> Gotestra: you tried to start an upgrade on top of an already running upgrade, if it allowed you to do that it would break things
[05:22] <woo> Got, ya it is :)
[05:23] <Gotestra> Oh
[05:23] <holmescn> could somebody help me? One of my partitions could not automount, it appears in /dev/disk/by-label, but not mount /media
[05:23] <Gotestra> Should have shown the open window instead of a background process :|
[05:23] <Gotestra> Ubuntu is meant to be n00b friendly :|
[05:23] <Gotestra> Oh hol reminded me of another problem.
[05:23] <uBUxUBu> im installing it now!
[05:24] <Grecoo> good luck
[05:24] <uBUxUBu> guess ill try 64 bit...
[05:24] <Gotestra> Guys
[05:24] <Gotestra> Yeah use 64 bit.
[05:24] <ian_> hey
[05:24] <Gotestra> Don't risk 32 bit.
[05:24] <Gotestra> Btw people
[05:24] <Gotestra> I got like another problem.
[05:24] <holmescn> could somebody help me? One of my partitions could not automount, it appears in /dev/disk/by-label, but not mount /media. I have googled but get nothing. could somebody give a hint?
[05:24] <ian_> sfears u here?
[05:25] <Gotestra> !nickalert sfears
[05:25] <sfears> yeah
[05:25] <ian_> it doesnt do any shit man
[05:25] <Gotestra> sfears
[05:25] <Gotestra> Listen man
[05:25] <schultza> how do i install gnome keyring?
[05:25] <Gotestra> I got this Z drive on my internet HDD.
[05:25] <sfears> i think you have a refresh rate problem ian_.
[05:25] <Gotestra> I use it for movies, music and everything.
[05:25] <schultza> pm me...be right back
[05:25] <ian_> and then how to slove it?
[05:25] <Gotestra> Its a 111 GB partition.
[05:26] <sfears> you need another monitor ian_
[05:26] <stuntman_dan> hey just a quick question, if I was using the beta of 12.04, is there anything special I have to do aside from installing updates to get to the real thing? I don't have to reinstall do I?
[05:26] <Gotestra> But I can't access it on Ubuntu.
[05:26] <ian_> the fuck
[05:26] <Gotestra> sfears?
[05:26] <ian_> listen im on the same computer
[05:26] <wylde> !language
[05:26] <ian_> the 12.04 dosent works
[05:26] <sfears> ummm.. i need more info Gotestra
[05:26] <ian_> but olders do
[05:26] <holmescn> stuntman_dan: no, you just update
[05:26] <Gotestra> Um
[05:26] <Gotestra> Its letter is Z.
[05:26] <stuntman_dan> holmescn, awesome thanks :)
[05:26] <Gotestra> 111 GB partition.
[05:26] <Gotestra> It shows an error
[05:27] <ian_> i booted a older kernel with the same pc
[05:27] <Gotestra> When I double click on it and try to mount it
[05:27] <sfears> yeah ian, it stopped working at 11.04 for me
[05:27] <sfears> they changed the default refresh rate
[05:27] <ian_> what the fuck is wrong with 12.04
[05:27] <ian_> lol fuck
[05:27] <FloodBot1> ian_: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[05:27] <Gotestra> "Unable to mount My Stuff"
[05:27] <sfears> it's running in the background ian_, you just can't see it
[05:27] <Gotestra> "Error mounting: mount exited with exit code 12: Failed to read last sector (234811391): Invalid argument"
[05:27] <ian_> is there any solution than changinh the screen? lol
[05:28] <sfears> yeah, but i'm not sure where the setting is
[05:28] <ian_> anybody here knows it?
[05:28] <Gotestra> "HINTS: Either the volume is a RAID/LDM but it wasn't setup yet,
[05:28] <Gotestra>    or it was not setup correctly (e.g. by not using mdadm --build ...),
[05:28] <Gotestra>    or a wrong device is tried to be mounted"
[05:28] <holmescn> Gotestra: did you run fsck?
[05:28] <Gotestra> What's that?
[05:28] <Grecoo> hey do you know how to "auto hide" the panel?
[05:29] <sfears> you need to change the refresh rate in /etc/X11/xorg.conf which is probably not created yet so you need to create an entire xorg.conf file and add a 60hz mode
[05:29] <Gotestra> sfears, as I said, I'm a total n00b.
[05:29] <wylde> !res | ian_
[05:29] <ian_> eeeh whats the commands?
[05:29] <Gotestra> So no, I didn't.
[05:29] <ian_> thanks ubottu
[05:29] <sfears> Grecoo: right click/panel settings/extra auto hide
[05:29] <holmescn> Gotestra: try it.
[05:29] <Gotestra> How?
[05:30] <holmescn> run fsck on the partition you mount wrong.
[05:30] <holmescn> fsck is a command
[05:30] <Grecoo> sfears, thanks
[05:30] <Gotestra> How do I use it?
[05:30] <Gotestra> Example of input?
[05:30] <ian_> Rather than invoking init scripts through /etc/init.d, use the service(8)
[05:30] <ian_> utility, e.g. service gdm /etc/init.d/kdm
[05:30] <ian_> The script you are attempting to invoke has been converted to an Upstart
[05:30] <ian_> job, but /etc/init.d/kdm is not supported for Upstart jobs.
[05:30] <ian_> lol wtf
[05:30] <FloodBot1> ian_: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[05:30] <sfears> Gotestra: is it maybe a proprietary partition that you need special software (windows software) to access?
[05:31] <Gotestra> Nop.
[05:31] <holmescn> fsck /dev/sda?
[05:31] <Gotestra> Its sda7, the error says.
[05:31] <sfears> does it show in your fdisk -l
[05:31] <Gotestra> Ima try it.
[05:31] <jschall> why is there a whitelist on the system tray? that's so stupid... if skype gets minimized it literally disappears while still running (blocking other instances of skype from connecting)
[05:31] <Tm_T> !language | ian_
[05:31] <waxstone> !ops ian_ language, & flooding multiple warnings
[05:31] <wookienz> hi, i am running a media server on ubuntu but each time i run it it causes a segfault and an entry in dmesg. Where do i even start to figure out why?
[05:32] <waxstone> !ops
[05:32] <ian_> lol and you can help me please sir?
[05:32] <Gotestra> Permission denied.
[05:32] <Gotestra> You must have r/w access to the filesystem or be root.
[05:32] <zenmaster> I just got the nicest server I have ever had hard ware wise for personal use. :)
[05:33] <wylde> !fsck | Gotestra
[05:33] <elky> ian_, don't flood us with pastes, and don't swear at us
[05:33] <holmescn> Gotestra: add 'sudo' in front of that command
[05:33] <zenmaster> Dell Power Edge 2800. Sounds like a 747, but I'm not near it so I don't care.
[05:33] <ian_> check http://paste.ubuntu.com/949002/
[05:33] <Gotestra> k
[05:33] <_k> ive tried upgrading and clean install... 12.04 crashes when i plugin 2nd monitor. any ideas?
[05:33] <ian_> hey relax dude i didnt swaer at you guys
[05:33] <_k> ATI tried open src and fglrx ... no luck. 11.10 works fine
[05:33] <sfears> ian_: sudo restart kdm
[05:33] <holmescn> could somebody help me? One of my partitions could not automount, it appears in /dev/disk/by-label, but not mount /media. I have googled but get nothing. could somebody give a hint?
[05:34] <ian_> just at myself and this BS, not at you guys okay? you guys are doing excellent jobs
[05:34] <Gotestra> Error 2 while mounting fsck.ntfs for /dev/sda7
[05:34] <wylde> ian_: just keep the language PG. If an op sees that you'll be kicked and banned. Just sayin'
[05:35] <sfears> holmescn: add entry to /etc/fstab
[05:35] <ian_> and i didn't know that i cant paste so is everything fine, my kind sir?
[05:35] <wylde> !pastebin | ian_
[05:35] <sfears> _k do you have proprietary drivers installed if necessary? and try disabeling desktop effects & compiz
[05:35] <Gotestra> sfears, holmescn, "Error 2 while mounting fsck.ntfs for dev/sda7"
[05:35] <ian_> yes thanks you kind sir
[05:36] <ian_> and sfears: it doesn't works
[05:36] <holmescn> sfears: it is a USB harddisk, i don't want to add it in fstab.
[05:36] <_k> yes.... i tried additional drivers and that was worse. will try with desktop effects & compiz - but do you think this is a bug?
[05:36] <holmescn> Gotestra: is there more infos?
[05:36] <sfears> holmescn: does it show in fdisk pl
[05:36] <sfears> fdisk -l
[05:37] <holmescn> yes
[05:37] <Gotestra> sfears: Not really, no.
[05:37] <sfears> Gotestra: you said it's an internet drive?
[05:37] <Gotestra> No internal drive.
[05:37] <Gotestra> As in, its a partition of my laptop's HDD.
[05:37] <sfears> doesn't sound like a bug _k
[05:37] <wylde> !mount
[05:38] <ian_> well?
[05:38] <zenmaster> Ehehe, community mount.
[05:38] <sfears> and your sure your mounting the correct partition Gotestra? why did you call it Z?
[05:38] <roger_black> how can we remove wine related icons, all of them
[05:38] <thisisjet> hello, I just updated to 12.04 and have noticed that when I adjust the brightness of my laptop lcd it now only has 3 levels (dim medium and bright), whereas in 11.10 I had 4 levels to choose from, and in windows theres about 10 levels between the brightest and dimmest.
[05:38] <thisisjet> anyone know where I can tweak this?
[05:39] <Gotestra> The drive letter is Z.
[05:39] <sfears> sounds like a windows mapping calling it Z.
[05:39] <Gotestra> No wait...
[05:39] <wylde> Gotestra: linux doesn't use drive letters....
[05:39] <Gotestra> I was gonna say that.
[05:39] <Gotestra> I'm like wait wut
[05:39] <Gotestra> Its My Stuff then.
[05:39] <sfears> Gotestra: fdisk -l
[05:39] <sfears> you need to figure out which partition it is
[05:39] <wylde> Gotestra: 'sudo fdisk -l' < the command needs root privs
[05:40] <Thedemon007> Hi how to i install netcfg in ubuntu??
[05:40] <_k> if not a bug, then why does 11.10 work? last question - should i just wait a few months before re-attempting this?
[05:40] <ronsonol> Is there any need to upgrade from 12.04 Beta to 12.04 final, or does just happen automagically with update manager?
[05:40] <sfears> sounds like a driver issue _k
[05:40] <_k> k
[05:40] <_k> thanks
[05:40] <Gotestra> As, I need to find if its sda1, or 2 or 3 or something?
[05:40] <holmescn> ronsonol: just update is ok.
[05:41] <ronsonol> holmescn: thanks.
[05:41] <wylde> Gotestra: yes
[05:41] <Gotestra> I think its sda7.
[05:41] <ian_> anybody can help me?
[05:41] <sfears> yeah Gotestra, if you use it in windows it will say ntfs or fat in one of the lines
[05:41] <Gotestra> The error said so.
[05:41] <Gotestra> NTFS, yes.
[05:41] <sfears> try "sudo mount /dev/sd?? /mnt"
[05:42] <sfears> replace ?? with the proper info
[05:42] <wylde> Gotestra: you may need some packages to mount it, and definatley to write to it.
[05:42] <wylde> !ntfs | Gotestra
[05:42] <jschall> thisisjet: oh wow, i have a similar problem. i think i have 4 levels to choose from, and my display driver has like 8 available levels i think?
[05:42] <Thedemon007> netcfg is in the repositories?
[05:42] <ian_> anybody?
[05:42] <Gotestra> But wait, there's this one partition.
[05:42] <wylde> !info netcfg
[05:42] <Gotestra> Installation Drive
[05:42] <sfears> ian_: you'll need another monitor
[05:42] <holmescn> I think ntfs is supported by default
[05:42] <Gotestra> Its NTFS, but I can access it.
[05:42] <ian_> and the command?
[05:43] <sfears> what command ian_?
[05:43] <ian_> is theres any command that could reslove the problem?
[05:43] <_k> im going to try rolling back the driver :3
[05:43] <Gotestra> Um sfears
[05:43] <sfears> edit /etc/X11/xorg.conf ian_
[05:43] <Thedemon007> wylde: http://packages.ubuntu.com/source/precise/netcfg
[05:43] <sfears> yeah Gotestra?
[05:43] <Gotestra> I tried the sudo mount command.
[05:44] <Gotestra> It gave the exact same error I got when using Explorer.
[05:44] <Gotestra> Or whatever you call it in WIndows.
[05:44] <wylde> Thedemon007: lol tell the bot that! :)
[05:44] <sfears> what error again?
[05:44] <holmescn> maybe you disk is physically wrong.
[05:44] <scwizard> does xubuntu come with an askpass program?
[05:44] <ian_> !pastebin
[05:44] <uBUxUBu> wow the side bar icon launcher is fixed-doesnt move in 12.04
[05:44] <scwizard> (a grapical one)
[05:44] <Gotestra> The device dev/sda7 doesn't seem to have a valid NTFS.
[05:44] <sfears> yeah, sounds like a hardware issue
[05:45] <sfears> crashed hard drive
[05:45] <ian_> sfears : http://paste.ubuntu.com/949023/
[05:45] <Gotestra> But I can access it and use it properly in Windows 7.
[05:45] <Gotestra> :|
[05:45] <Gotestra> I'm dual booting so..
[05:45] <Thedemon007> no can install no show in synaptics :S
[05:45] <evildaemon> How do you resize the tty?
[05:45] <holmescn> Gotestra: use the disktool in windows 7
[05:45] <wylde> Thedemon007: because wht you found was a source package.
[05:45] <Gotestra> Then do what?
[05:45] <holmescn> check and repair the partition.
[05:46] <Gotestra> But I checked it today morning..
[05:46] <Gotestra> It says its healthy.
[05:46] <kaushal> Hi
[05:46] <holmescn> damn.
[05:46] <evildaemon> Because I have an odd monitor size so y TTY won't fully display the screen.
[05:46] <evildaemon> *my
[05:46] <kaushal> what are the new prominent features available in 12.04
[05:46] <sfears> maybe again is the wrong partition. Gotestra pastebin your fdisk -l output
[05:46] <ian_> sfears: http://paste.ubuntu.com/949023/
[05:46] <thisisjet> jschall, hmmm... do you have any idea how to fix it?
[05:46] <ActionParsnip> kaushal: HUD is one
[05:46] <ian_> http://paste.ubuntu.com/949023/
[05:46] <holmescn> kaushal: the new and more stable unity.
[05:47] <kaushal> holmescn: is it gnome3 ?
[05:47] <kaushal> and unity3
[05:47] <holmescn> no
[05:47] <wylde> !patience | ian_
[05:47] <sfears> you need root privledges to modify files in / ian_
[05:47] <ian_> um
[05:48] <ian_> im the admin lol
[05:48] <kaushal> holmescn: ?
[05:48] <Gotestra> Would using Gparted help?
[05:48] <wylde> !ntfs | Gotestra
[05:48] <holmescn> kaushal: no, it is not gnome 3, it is unity 5
[05:48] <ian_> bye
[05:48] <sfears> and you need to modify the /etc/X11/xorg.conf on the display that you can't see, so you need to livecd in, mount the partition with the borked xorg, edit the correct modeline with the proper refresh rate.
[05:49] <kaushal> ok
[05:49] <kaushal> holmescn: what is unity5 and gnome 3 ?
[05:49] <kaushal> are there related to each other ?
[05:49] <sfears> kaushal: it's the gui
[05:49] <ActionParsnip> kaushal: unity is a shell for Gnome3
[05:49] <uBUxUBu> if the icon launcher supposed to be fixed in 12.04?
[05:50] <uBUxUBu> like immovable
[05:50] <holmescn> kaushal: it seams that unity 5 is based on gnome3 (or you can say based on gtk3)
[05:50] <ActionParsnip> kaushal: Oneiric also uses Gnome3 and Unity, just that Precise uses a newer version
[05:50] <kaushal> so gnome3 is not available on 12.04
[05:50] <kaushal> ?
[05:50] <Gotestra> Damn.
[05:50] <ActionParsnip> kaushal: yes it's the default desktop if you install Ubuntu
[05:50] <holmescn> kaushal: no, you can use gnome 3 as you wish.
[05:50] <fidel_> ahoi
[05:50] <Gotestra> I got to wait for Update Manager to exit.
[05:50] <Gotestra> I'm installing NTFS Config tool.
[05:51] <Gotestra> k I'll go study now
[05:51] <kaushal> ActionParsnip: you said unity is the shell not sure i understand that
[05:51] <Gotestra> Bai people
[05:51] <sfears> Gotestra: pastebin your fdisk -l output
[05:51] <holmescn> kaushal: you need to install gnome 3 by yourself.
[05:51] <Gotestra> Its so hard to copy paste with my trackpad...
[05:51] <kaushal> holmescn: so if i i install 12.04 it doesnot install gnome 3 by default ?
[05:52] <holmescn> kaushal: yes
[05:52] <Gotestra> How do I copy from kernel?
[05:52] <Gotestra> lol;
[05:52] <kaushal> whats the default then ?
[05:52] <fidel_> kaushal: installing gnome3 afterwards is a 1-liner - so not a real problem
[05:52] <holmescn> kaushal: unity
[05:52] <sfears> you said you got the same error in explorer right?
[05:53] <kaushal> holmescn: so unity5 as default when you install 12.04 desktop ?
[05:53] <Gotestra> Yea.
[05:53] <holmescn> kaushal: yup.
[05:53] <sfears> i'd say you have a crashed partition.
[05:53] <kaushal> ok
[05:53] <Gotestra> Wait wut
[05:53] <Gotestra> The drive has disappeared.
[05:53] <sfears> Your Z: drive is crashed
[05:53] <Gotestra> From explorer.
[05:53] <Gotestra> Wut
[05:53] <Gotestra> So, is the data unusable now?
[05:54] <Gotestra> o.o
[05:54] <ActionParsnip> kaushal: it will come with unity, compiz and gnome by default
[05:54] <sfears> you can try to rebuild the partition table, but i'm not sure how to do that
[05:54] <Gotestra> :|
[05:54] <kaushal> ActionParsnip: ok
[05:54] <Gotestra> Uh never mind.
[05:54] <Gotestra> I'll look into this later man
[05:54] <sfears> perhaps dd the entire partition and try to mount the image with isomount, but i doubt that would work
[05:54] <Gotestra> Thanks a lot for the help though.
[05:54] <Gotestra> :|
[05:54] <kaushal> also so all unity, compiz and gnome are different desktop environment ?
[05:55] <sfears> maybe make a loopback device if we can figure out the proper starting block location
[05:55] <sfears> Gotestra: i need to see your fdisk -l output
[05:55] <Striking7|Away> sfears: Hey. I just popped back into the channel. Who's rebuilding a partition table?
[05:55] <sfears> Gotestra: is Striking7|Away
[05:56] <Gotestra> wut
[05:56] <zenmaster> Hi, does anyone have expierance installing iredmail?
[05:56] <Gotestra> OH another thing.
[05:56] <Gotestra> If I reboot now
[05:56] <Striking7> Ok. I've done this before with success, hopefully this is what Gotestra needs.
[05:56] <Striking7> Is it on a normal disk? Not raid or the like?
[05:56] <Gotestra> I dunno what RAID is.
[05:56] <Gotestra> So no, I don't think so.
[05:56] <sfears> i don't think so, i havn't seen the fdisk output but i think it's a standard extended partition
[05:56] <Striking7> Gotestra: Good, that means we're probably in familiar territory.
[05:57] <oscalation> can someone help me with a wpa_supplicant conf file? I cant get mine to work
[05:57] <Gotestra> :)
[05:57] <Striking7> I had a friend that had accidentally nuked his partition table
[05:57] <Striking7> He had a bunch of data that he wanted back
[05:57] <Gotestra> ;|
[05:57] <Striking7> We crossed our fingers and prayed :-p
[05:57] <Gotestra> k now I'm seriously scared
[05:57] <Striking7> Jumped into an Ubuntu liveCD and fired up Gparted
[05:57] <Gotestra> I got like 111 GB of data on that thing.
[05:57] <Gotestra> Can I access it on Windows?
[05:58] <Striking7> Partitioned it the way it was partitioned before - luckily we remembered the partition sizes
[05:58] <Striking7> and *here's the key* make sure to uncheck the "format" checkbox for each partition
[05:58] <Striking7> Worked flawlessly.
[05:58] <Gotestra> Goodness me.
[05:58] <sfears> i could see that working as long as it's not formatted
[05:58] <Striking7> Gotestra: This was a Windows install that we did it on yes.
[05:59] <Gotestra> SO, before I used Ubuntu
[05:59] <Gotestra> That is, tell ysterday night,
[05:59] <Gotestra> My Z drive worked fine.
[05:59] <Gotestra> But now,
[05:59] <Gotestra> I can't access its data ?!?!
[05:59] <Striking7> Is it NTFS?
[05:59] <Gotestra> Yeah.
[05:59] <Striking7> K. Same with my situation
[06:00] <Striking7> Did you partition it from Linux or from Windows?
[06:00] <Gotestra> Windows omg
[06:00] <Gotestra> Windows 7.
[06:00] <Striking7> Ok. I don't know for sure this would work then.
[06:00] <bartos01> hi folks
[06:00] <Gotestra> I don't wanna lose my data.
[06:00] <Striking7> Every partition tool is going to estimate partition boundaries a little differently.
[06:00] <Gotestra> Its like my life
[06:01] <Striking7>  My method may not work for you then.
[06:01] <Gotestra> I got my music, movies, and almost EVERYTHING on that thing.
[06:01] <Gotestra> :(
[06:01] <Guest91514> how do i change my nick
[06:01] <Guest91514> i forgot
[06:01] <sm0kec00led> Gotestra, is the drive encrypted with bitlocker?
[06:01] <Gotestra> No.
[06:01] <Gotestra> Nothing at all.
[06:01] <oscalation> Guest79567,  type in /nick newnick
[06:01] <Gotestra> Its an ordinary drive
[06:01] <Striking7> So I'm not going to recommend it, but I'll let you know what I did in case it's handy info that helps you figure out your solution
[06:01] <oscalation> Guest91514, sorry /nick newnick
[06:01] <Lazik> Gotestra: and you want to access it from windows or ubuntu?
[06:02] <Gotestra> Both.
[06:02] <Striking7> I don't know how Windows partition managers work - I haven't used Windows much for almost half a decade.
[06:02] <Gotestra> :o
[06:02] <ok> ah
[06:02] <Lazik> In which OS are you right now?
[06:02] <Gotestra> Ubuntu.
[06:02] <Striking7> But here's the idea... a partition table is pretty much like a library's card catalog.
[06:02] <sfears> Gotestra: i need to see your fdisk output
[06:02] <oscalation> Gotestra, This wont  help any now, but its always a good rule of thumb to have a backup of your data prior to making even the smallest of changes. Do you by chance have any backups ?
[06:02] <Guest98022> why did my name
[06:02] <Striking7> It just tells the OS where to look for what data. Where does a partition start, what type is it (NTFS in this case), and how big is it.
[06:02] <Gotestra> Some stuff, yeah.
[06:02] <bartos01> I have dual monitors with Nvidia drivers. how do I get a different wallpaper on each monitor. z
[06:02] <Gotestra> But not all :(
[06:02] <MrBusiness> Is the background for the 12.04 greeter still defined in /etc/lightdm/unity-greeter.conf?
[06:02] <Guest98022> change back
[06:02] <sfears> sudo /sbin/losetup -fs /dev/sd?? -o $((512*<starting_block>))
[06:03] <Striking7> So if you can overwrite the partition table with the same data, you get your stuff back
[06:03] <Gotestra> Damn
[06:03] <bartos01> on unity 12.04
[06:03] <Gotestra> Wow I'm starting to lose grasp here.
[06:03] <Gotestra> I can't reboot since Ubuntu is upgrading.
[06:03] <MrBusiness> ooh, the background is user-specific now
[06:03] <sfears> replace sd?? with the correct partition and <starting_block> with the correct output from fdisk -l Gotestra
[06:03] <MrBusiness> hm
[06:03] <Gotestra> And so I can't boot into Windows and check.
[06:03] <Gotestra> Screw me.
[06:03] <Striking7> Sorry Gotestra - didn't mean to overinform :-p
[06:04] <Gotestra> lol no its k
[06:04] <Gotestra> I'll just go take a glass of water or something
[06:04] <sfears> Gotestra: ((512*63))
[06:04] <Gotestra> and sit down to study.
[06:04] <Striking7> I recommend scotch.
[06:04] <Gotestra> I'm 13.
[06:04] <Striking7> Oh
[06:04] <Gotestra> :|
[06:04] <Striking7> I do NOT recommend scotch in that case.
[06:04] <Gotestra> lolololol
[06:04]  * sfears still recomends scotch
[06:04] <goddard> whats the fastest easiest way to make an exact copy of my disk just in case 12.04 blows up my box?
[06:04] <Striking7> Lol sfears
[06:05] <Gotestra> My legs feel weak.
[06:05] <Guest98022> i wonder if this will stay
[06:05] <sfears> goddard: partclone
[06:05] <Gotestra> Damn Oxatocin
[06:05] <Guest98022> nope
[06:05] <oscalation> goddard, what OS are you using now?
[06:05] <Striking7> sfears: Is your first name Luke? I have a friend that adopts a similar nickname.
[06:05] <goddard> 11.10
[06:05] <Lazik> goddard: man dd
[06:05] <ImTheDude> will this stay
[06:05] <taxman> i won't use clonezilla
[06:05] <sfears> No, I am not Luke.
[06:05] <oscalation> Would rync work ?
[06:05] <oscalation> rsync .. sorry
[06:05] <fl1bbl3> gparted
[06:05] <Striking7> Ok Gotestra, let your upgrade finish and then worry about the partitioning.
[06:06] <uBUxUBu> is the icon launcher supposed to be "fixed" or immovable in 12.04?
[06:06] <Gotestra> Yeah
[06:06] <goddard> MyUnity
[06:06] <Gotestra> Thanks a lot for the support
[06:06] <goddard> helps
[06:06] <ImTheDude> i have a question
[06:06] <Gotestra> :)
[06:06] <Lazik> Gotestra: you have 2 drives? One C: and one Z:?
[06:06] <sfears> dd is not a fast way, it copys empty sectors
[06:06] <Gotestra> No many more.
[06:06] <Gotestra> Uh
[06:06] <Gotestra> C
[06:06] <Gotestra> Z
[06:06] <Gotestra> I
[06:06] <FloodBot1> Gotestra: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[06:06] <Gotestra> E
[06:06] <Striking7> It sure is accurate though sfears
[06:06] <sfears> Gotestra: do you have your fdisk output yet?
[06:06] <fl1bbl3> oscalation: try gparted
[06:07] <goddard> can i do it inside my OS without booting up a live cd?
[06:07] <Gotestra> I can't copy paste with my trackpad :(
[06:07] <ajin> hi all, does ubuntu12.04 support power VR SGX545 3D driver?
[06:07] <ImTheDude> does anyone like 10.10 netbook edition of ubuntu or am i wasting my time?
[06:07] <sfears> take a screen shot and paste it somewhere
[06:07] <Gotestra> Oyeah good idea
[06:07] <Lazik> Gotestra: might not be a partition issue, rather a not-mounting-the-disk issue
[06:07] <wylde> !10.10
[06:07] <sfears> 10.10 was a good release
[06:07] <Gotestra> k Ima screenshot
[06:07] <BlendedByI> Any thoughts on NFS vs GFS2 for a master/master FS?
[06:07] <sourfrog> Has anyone used ubuntu on Lenovo IdeaPad y570 ???  Curious if everything works
[06:08] <Lazik> Gotestra: in a terminal write : sudo fdisk -l
[06:08] <Gotestra> Yeah I remember.
[06:08] <goddard> i heard when you upgrade 12.04 reinstalls programs will the programs i compiled be broken?
[06:08] <Gotestra> Thanks :)
[06:08] <ImTheDude> or is 10.4 better on my netbook as far as speed goes i hear 10.10 ubuntu has alot of bugs is this information true
[06:08] <Lazik> Gotestra: paste the output here and we might be able to help you
[06:09] <ImTheDude> im happy with 10.4 i dont want to downgrade
[06:09] <ajin> it seems that there's no linux 3d driver for power vr sgx545 graphic card
[06:09] <Amdpc> HI..How to quit cmus in terminal?
[06:09] <sk1special> i have a audio related question..
[06:09] <goddard> gpart doesn't copy a drive
[06:10] <goddard> it partitions a drive from what i can see
[06:10] <taxman> 10.04 = end-of-life soon?
[06:10] <sfears> goddard: partclone
[06:10] <three18ti_> wow, the ubuntu servers must be getting -hammered- today...  247kB/s  updating apt... haha 86 kB/s now.  Gotta love release day.
[06:10] <oscalation> why part a drive, just rysnc what you want to backup and be done
[06:10] <Gotestra> http://i.imgur.com/V7ExQ.png
[06:11] <oscalation> i mean image
[06:11] <goddard> sfears: to use that i gotta boot into a live cd?
[06:11] <sfears> oscalation: compression for storage
[06:11] <sfears> yes goddard
[06:11] <rymate1234> hmmm
[06:11] <Gotestra> sfears : http://i.imgur.com/V7ExQ.png
[06:11] <ajin> hello?anyone knows about power vr stuff?
[06:11] <oscalation> sfears, wouldnt you save more space by only backing up files you need and not system files
[06:11] <Striking7> goddard: You'll likely need to recompile :(
[06:12] <sfears> sfs is your problem Gotestra.  what is sfs?
[06:12] <rymate1234> TIL chrome has a menubar
[06:12] <goddard> bah im not gonna upgrade then
[06:12] <Gotestra> I dunno?
[06:12] <Gotestra> wut sfs
[06:12] <Lazik> you screw up big time
[06:12] <Gotestra> where?
[06:12] <goddard> use Mozilla
[06:12] <Lazik> tell us what you did, you obviously only have one drive
[06:12] <Gotestra> I have one drive
[06:13] <Gotestra> Various partitions.
[06:13] <sfears> Gotestra: try sudo mount -t xfs /dev/sda4 /mnt
[06:13] <Gotestra> You're scaring me now.
[06:13] <sfears> sorry
[06:13] <sfears> Gotestra: try sudo mount -t sfs /dev/sda4 /mnt
[06:13] <elslunko> Anyone use dejadup for backing up 2tb+ worth of data?
[06:13] <Lazik> he said it was ntfs
[06:14] <sfears> yeah, he said
[06:14] <Lazik> he probably overwrote the windows partition when he installed ubuntu
[06:14] <Gotestra> Goodness me, I'll leave now.
[06:14] <goddard> elslunko: the first back up will suck but after that it isnt to bad
[06:14] <sfears> Lazik: http://i.imgur.com/V7ExQ.png
[06:14] <Gotestra> I'll come on later.
[06:14] <Gotestra> I need to study
[06:15] <bartos01> anyone using dual monitors?
[06:15] <Lazik> yea i saw
[06:15] <oscalation> hey, i have an idea for the guy that formated/repartitioned his drive ... data recovery
[06:15] <Gotestra> And my heartbeats racing from fear, so...
[06:15] <sfears> we're proably close to helping Gotestra
[06:15] <Gotestra> :|
[06:15] <Gotestra> Go ahead.
[06:15] <ActionParsnip> oscalation: try foremost, your backups wil be the easiest way
[06:15] <sfears> i need to find something about sfs, you see where your fdisk says sfs
[06:15] <sfears> if that said ntfs it would be working
[06:15] <Gotestra> o.o
[06:16] <elslunko> goddard, Yeah going through that right now. I used BIT before but trying out DD this time around. Just worried about compressing all that data.
[06:16] <Lazik> Gotestra: are you running ubuntu from the cd (as in livecd) or did you install ubuntu to your disk?
[06:16] <oscalation> ActionParsnip, not for me, for Gotestra
[06:16] <Gotestra> For info, I used Wubi to install Ubuntu.
[06:16] <Gotestra> Yeah to disk.
[06:16] <oscalation> Gotestra, you used Wubi????
[06:17] <Gotestra> Yeah
[06:17] <sfears> sudo mount -t ntfs-3g /dev/sda1 /mnt -o force Gotestra
[06:17] <Lazik> and when it asked you about partition, what did you do?
[06:17] <uchiha> me to
[06:17] <sfears> wait Gotestra
[06:17] <sfears> sudo mount -t ntfs-3g /dev/sda4 /mnt -o force Gotestra
[06:17] <Gotestra> Exactly what does that do?
[06:17] <kfizz1> Anyone having issues with flash not working in chrome after upgrade?
[06:18] <wylde> Gotestra: http://askubuntu.com/questions/41667/how-is-sfs-partition-different-than-other
[06:18] <sfears> it mount's the dev/sda4 partition to the /mnt folder as type ntfs-3g and if it gives any errors it tries to force it to mount anyway Gotestra
[06:18] <Lazik> kfizz1: yea always does, I reinstall the flash libs
[06:18] <kfizz1> Via a deb or apt-get?
[06:19] <rodayo> How do I update from the beta 2 to the final release?
[06:19] <matthewL> rodayo: good question.
[06:20] <Gotestra> Mount is denied because the NTFS volume is already exclusively opened.
[06:20] <sfears> that's a new one Gotestra
[06:21] <matthewL> I'm downloading the iso, burning to disk, and there should be an upgrade option.
[06:21] <Gotestra> lol
[06:21] <sfears> sfs = secure file system = it's encrypted from anywhere outside of the windows that encrypted it
[06:21] <oscalation> Gotestra, do you have any backups of this data?
[06:21] <glebihan> rodayo, matthewL : there's nothing to do apart from installing all package updates
[06:21] <Naemdar> Well my external hd project didn't go so well.  may have bricked a 1t usb 3.0 drive lol
[06:21] <Gotestra> No.
[06:21] <Gotestra> Its not sensitive stuff
[06:21] <matthewL> Ah.
[06:22] <Gotestra> Only  music and movies and stuff
[06:22] <oscalation> Gotestra, is it stuff you wished you backed up?
[06:22] <Gotestra> SO I didn't think I'd need it.
[06:22] <rodayo> glebihan, so how about these "crash reports" that pop up occasionally will those disappear?
[06:22] <zenmaster> I am having the hardest time getting any kind of mail server installed on a fresh install of Ubuntu-Linux-Server-11.10.
[06:22] <Gotestra> Yea
[06:22] <zykotick9> !final > rodayo
[06:22] <zenmaster> I have tried several Postfix tutorials.
[06:22] <Gotestra> CUz it'll take me ages to redownload this stuff lol
[06:22] <sfears> Gotestra: you should be able to backup everything from inside windows.
[06:22] <Gotestra> I'm a poor guy lmao
[06:22] <Naemdar> Does anyone know how to make unity go 3d cube? or sphere mode?
[06:23] <Gotestra> I'm saving up to buy an HDD
[06:23] <zenmaster> I recently discovered iRedMail. Tried that twice now and still to no avail. The first time after trying other mail installations. This time on a fresh Ubuntu install.
[06:23] <syk> i am having a problem installing ubuntu 12.04, everytime i try to install from a usb/cd-rom it always shows error "error prefix not set" and just hangs when i click an option.
[06:23] <Gotestra> An external HDD
[06:23] <oscalation> have we concluded that Gotestra chose his windows partition to be reformated to install Ubuntu?
[06:23] <matthewL> Y
[06:23] <sfears> you've encrypted the Z: drive, so you can't see it unless you unencrypt it first, which is booting into windows so you can see the Z: drive
[06:23] <sfears> Gotestra:
[06:23] <matthewL> Compiz for 3d
[06:23] <Gotestra> I didn't reformat LOL
[06:23] <Naemdar> is that an easy setup?
[06:23] <Gotestra> I would be absolutely mad to do that.
[06:23] <Gotestra> I just used Wubi
[06:24] <Gotestra> and gave the Ubuntu install 10 GB.
[06:24] <matthewL> Yes, very easy. In synaptic.
[06:24] <oscalation> Gotestra, have you attempted to boot back into windows?
[06:24] <Gotestra> Ubuntu is ugrading itself.
[06:24] <Gotestra> So I can't atm.
[06:24] <oscalation> ah, that would be my first option. let that finish, then the pc should restart
[06:25] <clark> hello, i have a thinkpad 420s and my internet connection is randomly bogged down.  i just installed 12.04
[06:25] <oscalation> if not restart it and cross your fingers
[06:25] <Gotestra> :|
[06:25] <clark> i tried the first two unixmen.com fixes and it did not work =(
[06:25] <Gotestra> There's a different feeling to all this stuff.
[06:25] <sfears> Gotestra: where is sda7?
[06:25] <Gotestra> I dunno.
[06:25] <sfears> it's not shown in your screen shot, you're drive is unplugged
[06:25] <clark> i do not have an ath9k.conf file
[06:26] <Gotestra> I'm sure it was sda7 when My Stuff had appeared in Explorer.
[06:26] <Gotestra> 877/1420 files done.
[06:26] <Gotestra> k
[06:26] <sfears> did you try sudo mount -t ntfs-3g /dev/sda4 /mnt -o force Gotestra
[06:26] <Gotestra> Yeah
[06:26] <Gotestra> Says already open.
[06:27] <sfears> try sudo mount -t ntfs-3g /dev/sda3 /mnt -o force Gotestra
[06:28] <Gotestra> Not even an error lol
[06:28] <sfears> good
[06:28] <sfears> ls /mnt
 try boot whis multiboot compact disk or flash-usb, and copy your "gold" files
[06:28] <sk1special>   okay. im running. TV 0 < Rear PC In ; Rear PC Out to TV 1 In ; PC Headphone Jack to Headset ; and TV 2 Out to Speakers.  and my computer sees everything..shows the jacks and the sound bar bumpin while audios on. but im only getting sound in my headset..is it just only capable of actually out putting to one source?
[06:28] <Guest80665> Anyone thinking about oracle database.
[06:28] <sfears> does it display anything Gotestra?
[06:28] <Gotestra> Nothing at all.
[06:28] <Gotestra> :|
[06:28] <Gotestra> Kill me nao.
[06:28] <syk> i am having a problem installing ubuntu 12.04, everytime i try to install from a usb/cd-rom it always shows error "error prefix not set" and just hangs when i click an option.
[06:28] <sfears> you typed ls /mnt?
[06:28] <Gotestra> yeah
[06:29] <matthewL> What about it  guest?
[06:29] <sfears> no error, just blank?
[06:29] <Guest80665> Ubuntu, did you think about install oracle database on Ubuntu, hard
[06:29] <oscalation> is there anything in ls /media  by chance?
[06:29] <Gotestra> Yeah
[06:29] <Gotestra> The drive?
[06:29] <sfears> ok sudo umount /mnt
[06:29] <Guest80665> Web traffic,
[06:30] <Guest80665> Enterprise Manager
[06:30] <matthewL> Guest: have you worked with another free DB, like mySQL or post gres?
[06:30] <oscalation> whois Guest80665
[06:30] <sfears> try sudo mount -t ntfs-3g /dev/sda2 /mnt Gotestra
[06:30] <Gotestra> kk
[06:30] <Guest80665> MySQL
[06:30] <matthewL> MySQL it's really easy.
[06:31] <Gotestra> Already opened error/
[06:31] <Gotestra> zomg
[06:31] <Gotestra> Cant wait to boot back into Windows now.
[06:31] <Guest80665> Use little memory, small, meet hardware, small resources.
[06:31] <matthewL> Ah.
[06:31] <Gotestra> Y MY INTERNETZ SO SLAW
[06:32] <Gotestra> Its downloading at 48 KBPS
[06:32] <Gotestra> :okay:
[06:32] <taxman> indeed. it won't take more ram than a copy-to-ram linux
[06:32] <Guest80665> Developer Tools, I think Oracle had some middleware, I don't know those.
[06:32] <Gotestra> Almost there.
[06:33] <Gotestra> About 509 more files to go.
[06:33] <Guest80665> We know some Java, may Java develop can help MySQL install, and run some codes, little ubuntu OS
[06:34] <oscalation> ?
[06:34] <clark> hello, can someone help me get wireless connection to not be so slow on 12.04? i tried the stuff listed on www.unixmen.com/resolve-slow-connexion-when-using-wifi-in-ubuntu-1104-natty-narwhal/
[06:34] <matthewL> I know a bit of Java and SQL and mySQL, etc
[06:34] <matthewL> Ubuntu is perfect for these apps
[06:34] <clark> none of these three things fixed my problem
[06:35] <oscalation> clark, your issue is just that your internet is slower in 12.04 ?
[06:36] <clark> yes much slower except irc seems to be okay. its just when im surfing the web
[06:36] <clark> i had the same problem with the last 2 releases though
[06:36] <oscalation> clark, laptop or desktop
[06:36] <clark> thinkpad 420s laptop
[06:36] <oscalation> using built in wifi card or usb ?
[06:36] <Guest80665> Oracle E-Business Suite, a lot of solutions, but we can't afford, may be use Java, and MySQL
[06:37] <Artemis3> Gotestra, do tell if you get an error right after the downloads finish, i'm unable to upgrade because it fails at that point.
[06:37] <Gotestra> What error do you get
[06:38] <clark> oscalation, built in wifi
[06:38] <clark> it works fine with windows
[06:38] <matthewL> Interesting, 665.  For the price of libre office base, mySQL, and Java, you can't go wrong.
[06:38] <Artemis3> Gotestra, 'E:Couldn't configure pre-depend libtinfo5 for libncurses5, probably a dependency cycle.'
[06:38] <oscalation> clark, are you using Firefox in ubuntu ?
[06:38] <Gotestra> Didn't get that message so far,
[06:38] <Artemis3> Gotestra, its after the packages finish downloading
[06:38] <Gotestra> I'm at 956 files.
[06:38] <clark> its really strange. google search works pretty quickly, but as soon as i try to go to any link from google search, it usually times out
[06:39] <Gotestra> Out of 1420
[06:39] <Gotestra> So it'll take a while.
[06:39] <clark> firefox. just updated it as well
[06:39] <Artemis3> Gotestra, its ok, i'm lurking here ;)
[06:39] <Gotestra> :3
[06:39] <oscalation> clark, what does speed test put you at ?
[06:39] <taxman> lol, my 12.04 has ff 12.0
[06:40] <taxman> html5 html5 html5
[06:40] <taxman> hehehe
[06:40] <Gotestra> I need to figure out how to utilize my 4 GB of RAM in Ubuntu.
[06:40] <oscalation> clark, speedtest.net that is
[06:40] <Guest80665> Linux, Servers, Storage, the only one thing, how we configure clients, servers, and how we manage them, these cause the failure.
[06:40] <Gotestra> I made a RAMDisk for Chrome in Windows
[06:40] <Gotestra> but Ubuntu barely uses over 1.5 GB.....
[06:40] <Artemis3> Gotestra, chrome can eat memory very easily, just open like 40 tabs
[06:40] <taxman> i will give each vm 4gb of ram
[06:40] <Gotestra> :o
[06:41] <matthewL> Ah, so cloud, then?
[06:41] <taxman> no matter it's 32-bit or 64-bit
[06:41] <taxman> i have 16gb of ram
[06:41] <Gotestra> I'm at like 11 tabs open.
[06:41] <Gotestra> LOL Y U USING UBUNTU
[06:41] <Artemis3> to few~
[06:41] <taxman> yes, i just downloaded 12.04
[06:41] <matthewL> Linux power@Gotestra
[06:42] <Guest80665> We don't familiar to ubuntu, then chance to success or lose
[06:42] <Somya> Anyone please help me out I have recently upgradedt my ubuntu to 11.04 and after the upgrade my wifi is not working and wlan0 driver is not showing up
[06:42] <clark> oscalation, speedtest only half loads, banners and links at the bottom
[06:42] <matthewL> 665, are there Abby Linux admins, there?
[06:42] <matthewL> Any, I mean.
[06:43] <Guest80665> Many companies, communications, universities, retail, utilities use ubuntu, but we really lack of Linux admin
[06:43] <clark> oscalation, it just finished loading. DL 3.28 Mbps, UL 0.07 Mbps
[06:43] <oscalation> Somya, if you open terminal by pressing CTRL + ALT +T and run infconfig -a what is listed?
[06:44] <oscalation> ifconfig -a
[06:44] <matthewL> 665, what do you make use of on servers?
[06:44] <oscalation> clark, and that page loaded very slowly hu?
[06:44] <clark> oscalation, yes.
[06:45] <lotuspsychje> is it safe to install precise now?
[06:45] <Somya> oscalation: its showing eth0 and lo
[06:45] <clark> oscalation, it seems more like it partially loaded and then paused for a long time
[06:45] <matthewL> I'll let you know lotus. I'm sure it is.
[06:45] <taxman> yeah, it's possible
[06:46] <matthewL> Lotus: i'm upgrading now.
[06:46] <lotuspsychje> ok tnx
[06:47] <taxman> ubuntu is not very useable by default
[06:47] <taxman> you have to tweak
[06:47] <matthewL> Software center is good., tax
[06:48] <clark> sometimes you get unlucky with hardward specs
[06:48] <oscalation> Somya, clark can you give the output of this command please .. sudo apt-get install pastebinit && nm-tool | pastebinit
[06:48] <clark> or compatibility and proprietary shit, it seems like
[06:48] <oscalation> or just run nm-tool and put it up on pastebin
[06:49] <sk1special> i got it. installed gnome alsa mixer. ltr
[06:49] <matthewL> Why, Clark?
[06:49] <diimdeep> please help with configuration http://serverfault.com/questions/382958/proftpd-configuration-mod-auth-file-cross-folders-with-different-rights-in-group
[06:50] <holmes> join #ubuntu-cn
[06:50] <holmes> #ubuntu-cn
[06:50] <clark> oscalation, http://paste.ubuntu.com/949113/
[06:51] <Somya> oscalation, 1st command sudo apt-get install pastebinit- installed pastebinit and the second command give output NetworkManager Tool  State: connected  - Device: eth0  [Auto eth0] ----------------------------------------------------   Type:              Wired   Driver:            r8169   State:             connected   Default:           yes   HW Address:        18:03:73:73:A7:90    Capabilities:     Carrier Detect:  yes     Speed:    
[06:51] <clark> i think i have bad luck with hardware.
[06:52] <Go_Implementatio> We never think a lot of things on server, consider the server running the system well or not.
[06:52] <abhi_69> hello
[06:52] <abhi_69> i just installed ubuntu 12.04
[06:52] <matthewL> Well, mainstream Dell had gotten everything working well enough.
[06:52] <abhi_69> everything looking good, but facing problem with nautilus
[06:52] <gaelfx> clone1018: what's wrong with it?
[06:52] <m00se> well clone1018 - the first thing you do is not get banned LOL
[06:53] <abhi_69> nautilus crashes frequently while trying to access my NTFS partitions
[06:53] <abhi_69> any solution?
[06:53] <Go_Implementatio> Usually we use old computers instead of large companies using new equipment
[06:53] <gaelfx> abhi_69: ntfs partitions on your machine or on another machine?
[06:53] <matthewL> 69, can you use a different file manager?
[06:53] <abhi_69> gaelfx, my machine
[06:54] <abhi_69> i have two NTFS partitions, auto mounted via NTFS-config
[06:54] <surt> Hello, I've got (probably) an easy one. When using the terminal I noticed when I hit tab, it puts a space after files/folders. Can this be changed?
[06:54] <Go_Implementatio> Something always happen, ubuntu self develop programs not meet old computers, always have some small problems.
[06:54] <abhi_69> when i try to open them via nautilus (file manager/files) it craches
[06:55] <abhi_69> i can open them but can't access them :(
[06:55] <abhi_69> everything ok for ubuntu's partition though
[06:55] <abhi_69> how to fix this?
[06:55] <gaelfx> abhi_69: well, the easiest solution I can think of is to make them not be NTFS, but I'm assuming you don't want to do that?
[06:56] <Go_Implementatio> We don't know the exact problem is, then we consider, backup, save info, if information in the hard disk can remain, everything fine.
[06:56] <abhi_69> gaelfx, yes, i have lot of data in those partitions
[06:56] <matthewL> Xfce uses thunder , and kde uses dolphin, how do these react?
[06:56] <abhi_69> matthewL, i'm using gnome-shell, using nautilus
[06:57] <abhi_69> do i upload error messages while i'm trying to access them?
[06:57] <Go_Implementatio> We can't promise data from thunder can transfer to dolphin without mistakes. only possible way is save them to hard disk, maybe no errors and got a copy.
[06:57] <gaelfx> abhi_69: that might help
[06:57] <matthewL> 69, yes
[06:58] <abhi_69> gaelfx, okey, uploading to pastebin
[06:58] <surt> FYI: Found issue for trailing space in console: "rm /etc/bash_completion.d/acroread.sh"
[06:58] <Go_Implementatio> If we can promise data right, no errors, this is very successful ubuntu, backup the data, then try to think thunder, dolphin.
[06:58] <surt> Ta.
[06:59] <hupan> ?
[06:59] <Go_Implementatio> But on servers we always thinking about what we will implement. We usually thinking about MySQL.
[07:01] <woq> hi, did somebody checked if snx (vpn) is working fine with ubu 12.4 amd64?
[07:02] <ikonia> woq: why would it not be ?
[07:02] <mbalmer> hello.  is it possible to specify a timeout for automatic login during which other uses can interrupt the timeout and login themselves (as does gdm3 on Debian squeeze)?
[07:02] <woq> ikonia, i found snx very buggy ;P, got many problems with it on ie fedora 64
[07:02] <Naemdar> I am curious is there a open gl port of system shock 1 or 2 for linux?
[07:03] <ikonia> woq: so either a.) fedora's build is bad, which is not an ubuntu relevence b.) the software has problems in which case ubuntu can't fix it
[07:04] <abhi_69> gaelfx, there? here is the error- http://pastebin.com/Khgx2vT8
[07:04] <woq> ikonia, i know that, LOL :) i was just asking is it working fine, if somebody checked it i will switch to new ubuntu, if nobody checked - i will check it on vm
[07:04] <Go_Implementatio> MySQL can promise data, ubuntu can work hard to maintain MySQL data backup.
[07:04] <ikonia> woq: just try it
[07:04] <abhi_69> any idea?
[07:05] <Go_Implementatio> Oracle Database can enhance the work on ubuntu, base on open source, and Oracle Database can promise some enhance data works.
[07:05] <ikonia> Go_Implementatio: who are you talking to ?
[07:05] <taxman> it's a commercial?
[07:05] <ikonia> I hope not
[07:06] <Go_Implementatio> Just according to thoughts, I don't know right or false.
[07:06] <Hebram> iconia:  Anyone who will listen.
[07:06] <ikonia> Go_Implementatio: who are you talking to ?
[07:06] <abhi_69> i'm having problem while accessing NTFS partitions from nautilus, it crashes frequently
[07:06] <Go_Implementatio> Anyone use ubuntu
[07:06] <abhi_69> plz any solution guys
[07:06] <ikonia> Go_Implementatio: ok, please stop, it's a support channel if you need help, ask a question.
[07:06] <abhi_69> here is the error message- http://pastebin.com/Khgx2vT8
[07:06] <gaelfx> what's the command to ask apt-get what packages are available matching a string?
[07:07] <ikonia> abhi_69: can you not see the error in that paste ?
[07:08] <abhi_69> ikonia, yes, i can see, but can't understand what to do?
[07:08] <ikonia> abhi_69: what have you done ?
[07:08] <abhi_69> noting
[07:08] <greenit> hi, i wanted to update to ubuntu 12.04, but the server are veeery slow.... i am from austria, the austrian server has a dl-rate from ~20kb/s, the swiss one has a dl-rate form ~50kb/s and the main-server has a dl-rate from ~3kb/s for me... does any1 know a fast server to upgrade?
[07:08] <abhi_69> just a fresh installation of ubuntu 12.04
[07:08] <ikonia> abhi_69: ok, so the error is "no such file or directory" what's the first thing that's worth checking ?
[07:08] <greenit> servers*
[07:08] <gaelfx> abhi_69: whoa, dude, why are you using samba share for a partition that's already on your machine?
[07:08] <Naemdar> should I or should I not go to 12.04?
[07:08] <ikonia> Naemdar: your choice
[07:08] <abhi_69> i'm not using any share
[07:09] <Naemdar> going to get used to 1110 before I make that jump
[07:09] <abhi_69> this partition is not shared parition
[07:09] <mbalmer> so anyone knows how to set a timeout for automatic logins?  or rather, a wating time before autologin happens?
[07:09] <jham_> who know codeigniter?
[07:09] <Naemdar> This is going to become my favorite os for just messing around on the net and such
[07:10] <gaelfx> abhi_69: the file address in your error looks like you're trying to use samba to access it
[07:10] <uBUxUBu> is the icon launcher in 12.04 supposed to fixed-immovable? when i had 11.10 it always moved ion and out of sight? was this a purposeful change or am i using it wrong?
[07:10] <XDESIGN> hello
[07:10] <abhi_69> gaelfx, not at all, i don't have any shared partitions
[07:10] <abhi_69> i'm trying to access them via nautilus
[07:11] <Naemdar> If I asked on a windows forum if I should go to windows 8  or stay with 7 they would have flayed me alive for even wanting to stay with 7. lol
[07:11] <ikonia> abhi_69: think about it, the error is no such file......what do you need to check
[07:11] <greenit> does any1 know if i can see the server-load of the repo-servers anywhere on the net?
[07:11] <ikonia> greenit: you can't
[07:11] <greenit> damn^^
[07:12] <abhi_69> ikonia, okey, here it is, i can access file/folders from nautilus when i open them via 'open with files' menu option
[07:12] <ikonia> abhi_69: not what I asked
[07:12] <abhi_69> but can't access them while double clicking them or open
[07:12] <Go_Implementatio> Ubuntu may be can provide some applications, we call basic, and ubuntu intall database and tests, I am planning install MySQL in ubuntu, may be a cluster, keep data, and use in some corporations, a lot of maintainance, how to develop MySQL use advanced applications.
[07:12] <greenit> lol, nice... in ubuntu there is the option "choose best server", question solved^^
[07:12] <ikonia> abhi_69: think about the first thing you need to check, the error is "directory not found"
[07:13] <abhi_69> it's already mounted
[07:13] <abhi_69> via NTFS-config
[07:13] <vega-> seems dual display configuration still needs to be done via nvidia-settings if using the binary drivers?
[07:13] <ikonia> abhi_69: please listen to what I'm saying
[07:13] <Naemdar> One thing is certain tonight is probably not the best time to be trying to do command line stuff.  a bottle of gin and mango juice, who knows what I will end up doing lol
[07:13] <matthewL> Lotus, still around?
[07:13] <ikonia> abhi_69: the error is "cannot open directory" - what do you think the first thin you need to check is ?
[07:14] <oal> I upgraded to 12.04 now, but my mouse pointer is stuck on only one of my two screens
[07:15] <oal> When I move it to the edge of my left screen, it stops, but I can see half the cursor on the right
[07:15] <abhi_69> yes, got it
[07:15] <gaelfx> oal: move it as far to the other side of the screen as you can
[07:15] <abhi_69> but i said already that- i don't have any share on those partitions
[07:15] <abhi_69> i can't even understand why ubuntu showing me this error
[07:16] <oal> gaelfx: it stops there as well
[07:16] <abhi_69> i also have Fuduntu installed, i can access them from Fuduntu very well
[07:16] <abhi_69> problem is with ubuntu only
[07:16] <gaelfx> oal: do you have auto-hide enabled for your dockamijig?
[07:16] <abhi_69> even from a live CD i also have this problem
[07:16] <oal> gaelfx: how do I enable that?
[07:17] <gaelfx> oal: ok, maybe we should start over, are you using any proprietary drivers for graphics?
[07:17] <oal> gaelfx: yes, nvidia
[07:18] <XDESIGN> how to install Emerald theme manager on ubuntu 12.04
[07:18] <XDESIGN> ?
[07:18] <gaelfx> oal: and how did you set up your dual monitors? through the Displays settings?
[07:18] <ikonia> XDESIGN: it's dead
[07:18] <oal> gaelfx: nvidia-settings
[07:18] <XDESIGN> ikonia ?:)
[07:18] <throwaway_rq> 12.04 is awesome
[07:19] <ikonia> XDESIGN: emerald is dead
[07:19] <gaelfx> oal: and I assume you chose extended, not twinview?
[07:19] <matthewL> What it's good about it, rq?
[07:19] <throwaway_rq> any suggested post-install guides for extra and requested packages?
[07:19] <throwaway_rq> matthewL: some hardware issues i had on my dell xps are all gone
[07:19] <ikonia> throwaway_rq: there are no "guides" because it's up to YOU what you install
[07:19] <matthewL> Great!
[07:19] <oal> gaelfx: let me check. I use the same configuration I used under 11.10, and it worked fine before
[07:20] <throwaway_rq> ikonia: i undersatnd, i meant in a general way (i.e. multimedia guide, IDE guide, server guide, etc)
[07:20] <matthewL> rq, i'm installing now.
[07:20] <throwaway_rq> so taht i can read up and decide
[07:20] <ikonia> throwaway_rq: https://help.ubuntu.com
[07:20] <oal> gaelfx: I can only choose between twinview and separate x screen. It's twinview now
[07:20] <gaelfx> oal: did you have to re-set it up after installing 12.04 or did it use config files from your /home?
[07:20] <throwaway_rq> ikonia: neverind, thanks anyway
[07:20] <throwaway_rq> matthewL: vm or actual hardware?
[07:21] <ikonia> throwaway_rq: did you actually read the URL I gave you
[07:21] <oal> gaelfx: when this first happened, I reconfigured it, but got the same result
[07:21] <throwaway_rq> ikonia: i did, numerous times.
[07:21] <ikonia> throwaway_rq: it has many short sharp guides about how to do and setup specific tasks
[07:21] <matthewL> Annual dual boot w windows 7
[07:21] <gaelfx> oal: I think you should disable the dual monitor, then apply the settings change and then try to set it up again (separate xscreen style)
[07:21] <throwaway_rq> ikonia: yeah - i understand - there's just "too many" there's no upvote/ranking system for the guides that are good/generically appraised
[07:22] <oal> gaelfx: ok, I'll give it a try, thanks
[07:22] <ikonia> throwaway_rq: you don't need a ranking on https://help.ubuntu.com it's all official ubuntu documentation and can be trusted
[07:22] <gaelfx> oal: IIRC, you should have use the mouse to select where the second screen goes
[07:22] <throwaway_rq> ikonia: ok, thanks, i'll go through them again
[07:22] <matthewL> ubuntuforums is good too.
[07:23] <throwaway_rq> right now im installing gnome-session-fallback... can't stand unity still :\
[07:23] <gaelfx> does anyone know if there's a trick to importing .ovpn files, or do I just have to do it manually?
[07:23] <matthewL> rq great sever setups.
[07:24] <throwaway_rq> matthewL: nice. I needed some guidelines on setting up servers. i'll head over for that as well
[07:24] <Kriss3d> Im just upgrading now.. sadly amsn will be uninstalled now
[07:24] <throwaway_rq> unity GUI on vmware unity is terrible
[07:25] <woozly> guys, after upgrading to 12.04 from 11.10, my top panel and unity disapear :(
[07:25] <woozly> only desktop with icons
[07:25] <woozly> what to do? :(
[07:25] <throwaway_rq> woozly: alt_ctrl+backspace and relogin, does it draw back?
[07:25] <Kriss3d> i removed unity a long time ago.. hope i wont have to do this again
[07:25] <PawanPutraHanuma> how can i upgrade to 12.04 from 10.04 thru command line?
[07:25] <gaelfx> woozly: I will pay you serious sums of cash if you can make my top panel disappear as well :D
[07:26] <ikonia> !upgrade > PawanPutraHanuma
[07:26] <woozly> alt+ctrl + backspace doesn't work (
[07:26] <ikonia> !nozap | woozly
[07:26] <matthewL> I use vbox with windows with no errors.
[07:26] <PawanPutraHanuma> ikonia, ok
[07:26] <ikonia> !dontzap
[07:27] <oal> gaelfx: no difference :(
[07:27] <throwaway_rq> i killed my macbook air installing ub12.04
[07:27] <throwaway_rq> my fault >_>
[07:27] <gaelfx> oal: when you setup the separate xscreen, did the other monitor turn all grey and give you an X cursor?
[07:27] <vega-> why would anyone want to install ubuntu on a macbook ..
[07:27] <throwaway_rq> dd'd the installer on rdisk0s5 and it wont boot again - most likely i screwed up the EFS
[07:27] <oal> gaelfx: yup
[07:28] <abhi_69> gaelfx, okey, that weird shared folder problem solved by a ubuntu forum post
[07:28] <throwaway_rq> vega-" because you can
[07:28] <abhi_69> now it showing new error- Segmentation fault (core dumped)
[07:28] <gaelfx> vega-: undesirable gift turned into something more desirable
[07:28] <throwaway_rq> gaelfx:  in some way, yes it is .
[07:28] <throwaway_rq> dont like osx in general, been workign with it for 4 years, still can't say i can develop a taste for it
[07:28] <tarzeau> throwaway_rq: it's so great!
[07:28] <abhi_69> now that share problem is solved, but still i can't access NTFS drives via nautilus
[07:29] <abhi_69> showing new error: Segmentation fault (core dumped)
[07:29] <woozly> how to reinstall unity?
[07:29] <throwaway_rq> tarzeau: how so?
[07:29] <Kriss3d> vega cause macOS looks like fecals ?
[07:29] <abhi_69> any help?
[07:29] <lotuspsychje> does gnome classic come by default?
[07:29] <gaelfx> oal: I think you're supposed to click and drage the monitor you want there there, does that make sense?
[07:29] <throwaway_rq> woozly: can you try creating a new user account and login ?
[07:29] <Kriss3d> lotus you can always make gnome3 look like gnome 2
[07:29] <throwaway_rq> woozly: i am suspecting profile issue
[07:29] <vega-> i've been using ubuntu for 7 years and got a macbook air a few months ago.. very impressed and usage of ubuntu-laptop has dropped a LOT ..
[07:29] <tarzeau> throwaway_rq: if you are a developer, the api's are a dream. and for professional users, it's great too
[07:29] <woozly> throwaway_rq: Ill try
[07:29] <gaelfx> woozly: sudo apt-get install unity
[07:29] <mrsuchyPL> hi
[07:29] <tarzeau> throwaway_rq: like when you're into graphics, typography, photographic stuff
[07:30] <lotuspsychje> Kriss3d: i mean do you need to install gnome classic, or is it default login option?
[07:30] <oal> gaelfx: from the ubuntu screen manager or nvidia-settings? The ubuntu one seems to only detect 1 screen and calls it "laptop"
[07:30] <throwaway_rq> tarzeau: yea i am but i still dont like it.
[07:30] <tarzeau> throwaway_rq: you probably are young? or missed completely nextstep/openstep?
[07:30] <throwaway_rq> it's a preference thingy
[07:30] <gaelfx> oal: nvidia-settings, the other one is mostly useless
[07:30] <tarzeau> throwaway_rq: yes i am what? you're working what?
[07:30] <Kriss3d> lotus not sure.. im still just upgrading to 12.04 but if its anything like 11.10 then you gotta install it manually
[07:31] <throwaway_rq> yes i do work with graphics and film editing
[07:31] <mrsuchyPL> I want copy to another partition all my ubuntu with original priviliges. I login in root and copy with midnigt commander but then system change priviliges ? how can i set original priviliges to copy files ?
[07:31] <lotuspsychje> kriss3d: same here upgrading :p
[07:31] <throwaway_rq> and no i am not young
[07:31] <tarzeau> throwaway_rq: do you have a portfolio, web page?
[07:31] <gvandeweyer> should a do-release-upgrade already work without the -d(evelopment) switch?
[07:31] <vega-> oal: same problem, seems ubuntus display settings are totally useless if using nvidia binary driver
[07:31] <gvandeweyer> I'm coming from 10.
[07:31] <tarzeau> throwaway_rq: you like unity?
[07:31] <throwaway_rq> tarzeau: hell no.
[07:31] <gvandeweyer> I'm coming from 10.04 lts server
[07:31] <Kriss3d> lotus i found ways to make it both have classic as default. but also made it look like gnome 2 and with no unity at all.
[07:31] <vega-> oal: at least when using more than 1 display
[07:31] <oal> vega-: is your cursor also stuck between your screens?
[07:31] <throwaway_rq> xfce
[07:32] <vega-> oal: don't know about that, main problem is that it isn't able to configure dual screens properly
[07:32] <Kriss3d> when you wanna work with your linux and not just surf the web.. unity is about as useful as a eel with a pair of gloves
[07:32] <oal> vega-: I found out if you move the cursor very fast towards the edge, it'll go through "the wall" between the screens
[07:32] <gaelfx> Kriss3d: I would never handle an eel gloveless
[07:32] <lotuspsychje> Kriss3d: i heard precise has gnome classic instead of unity2d, i never liked 2d
[07:32] <vega-> oal: how convenient
[07:32] <oal> vega-: really odd bug :/
[07:33] <mappum> What's a good way to measure CPU / RAM / network / etc usage over time for a headless server?
[07:33] <PawanPutraHanuma> Kriss3d, lol
[07:33] <woozly> I have create new user, but when I try to login to it from logon screen, it backs me to logon screen (
[07:33] <throwaway_rq> ARGH
[07:33] <throwaway_rq> vmware easy install loop - anyoen encountered it before?
[07:34] <cypr1nus> mappum, top/htop for cpu,mem, etc ?
[07:34] <Kriss3d> lotus. hm ill see in a few minuts..
[07:34] <mappum> cypr1nus: but can top give a log over time?
[07:34] <Kriss3d> gaelfx but i doubt a eel would need gloves.
[07:35] <mbalmer> haha, firefox only available in english...
[07:35] <mbalmer> all language packs disabled...
[07:35] <wookienz> gents, i am trying to run plex media server on my ubuntu 10.10 box. When i load it i get a dmesg error of: "segfault at 0 ip 00007f6bef296134 sp 00007fff3ce53800 error 4 in libc-2.11.1.so[7f6bef22d000+17a000]". where do i even begin to troubleshoot this?
[07:35] <gvandeweyer> Kriss3d: Are you upgrading using 'do-release-upgrade -d' ? The new release is not found by my 10.04 lts server yet ...
[07:35] <woozly> But if I logon as Guest - it is ok
[07:36] <ikonia> gvandeweyer: you do not use -d
[07:36] <woozly> what to remove, I neeed work account (
[07:36] <ashi> hi
[07:36] <gvandeweyer> ikonia: Then it says no new release is available
[07:36] <gvandeweyer> I must be missing something
[07:36] <cypr1nus> mappum, i suppose yes, but please find out ;]
[07:36] <ikonia> gvandeweyer: correct
[07:36] <ikonia> !upgrade > gvandeweyer
[07:37] <throwaway_rq> !upgrade > throwaway_rq
[07:37] <ashi> i have tata photon VME102 modem but it is not being detected in ubuntu...need help
[07:38] <mappum> cypr1nus: found an answer :D http://superuser.com/questions/149961/writing-a-cpu-ram-usage-log-over-a-period-of-time-to-file-on-centos
[07:38] <jesse__> Hello.  Just installed the latest Ubuntu (havent used it in a few years).  Years ago, there was a tool called "Ubuntu Tweak."  Does anyone know if this (or something like it) exists for Ubuntu 12.4?
[07:38] <PawanPutraHanuma> ashi, do u have the drivers installed for that device?
[07:38] <ikonia> jesse__: you don't need it, you can do anything you need within the ubuntu tools
[07:38] <jarco> I am willing to install the newest ubuntu. But it looks like my video card is not supported. How can I install it in fallback mode?
[07:38] <jesse__> ikonia: can i switch the maximize, minimize, close buttons to the right side of the title bar? :)
[07:39] <ashi> nope
[07:39] <ikonia> jesse__: it all works a bit different now with unity
[07:39] <ikonia> jesse__: I'd suggest trying it, seeing what you like/don't like and checking out if solutions are available
[07:39] <obakfahad> You can if you choose to remove or not use unity jesse__
[07:39] <PawanPutraHanuma> ashi, check the photon website for the relevant drivers
[07:39] <jesse__> obakgahad: i like unity, just i want to configure it a bit, if possible.  Does ubuntu tweak no longer work?
[07:39] <cypr1nus> mappum, thanks :)
[07:40] <obakfahad> Guys plz wellcome me :)
[07:40] <lotuspsychje> anyone tested gnome classic yet?
[07:40] <obakfahad> Work but right side is not possible....
[07:40] <gvandeweyer> ikonia: thanks, I'll see how that helps (it seems I need to update 10.04 completely before upgrading)
[07:40] <obakfahad> it is the concept of unity.
[07:41] <obakfahad> I really enjoying ubuntu 12.04 !!!!!!!!!1
[07:41] <jesse__> oh, i see, thanks
[07:41] <obakfahad> !!!!!
[07:41] <jarco> I am willing to install the newest ubuntu. But it looks like my video card is not supported. How can I install it in fallback mode?
[07:41] <obakfahad> :)
[07:41] <lotuspsychje> can left bar be dragged to bottom on precise?
[07:41] <ashi> they dont provide drivers,they have some instructions,here -http://www.tataphoton.com/download/user-manuals/Olive-VME102-User-Manual.pdf
[07:41] <ashi> but it dont work
[07:41] <obakfahad> lotuspsychje No .
[07:42] <kelvinella> hi, is ubuntu 12.04 faster than 11.10??
[07:42] <FourDollars> kelvinella: yes
[07:42] <obakfahad> Installation looks faster.kelvinella
[07:42] <kelvinella> not installation
[07:42] <obakfahad> And yes this is good .kelvinella
[07:42] <kelvinella> i want performance
[07:42] <Christoph_vW> gvandeweyer: 12.04 will not be offered to 10.04 LTS users yet - some blueprint states it will be offered when the first point release it out
[07:42] <obakfahad> Smooth performance.kelvinella
[07:43] <kelvinella> what about xubuntu 12.04?
[07:43] <gvandeweyer> Christoph_vW: Ah, where did you find that ?
[07:43] <jarco> How can I install ubuntu in low graphics mode if the normal way is not working?
[07:43] <obakfahad> Still dloading.
[07:43] <PawanPutraHanuma> Christoph_vW, is it?
[07:43] <obakfahad> jarco try lubuntu.
[07:43] <kelvinella> will xubuntu faster than ubuntu on netbook?
[07:43] <lotuspsychje> !info kazam
[07:44] <jarco> obakfahad: I will but I wanted to try the hud first
[07:44] <jarco> kelvinella: yes
[07:44] <gvandeweyer> Christoph_vW: First point release, as in July 2012 ?
[07:44] <obakfahad> kelvinella it should...because xfce is light.
[07:44] <Christoph_vW> "„If currently running lucid, we'll not prompt them for LTS to LTS upgrade until the point release comes out (12.04.1).“ "
[07:44] <gvandeweyer> damn, I really need some of the new functions on the production server :/
[07:44] <Christoph_vW> source: https://blueprints.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+spec/foundations-p-lts-upgrades
[07:45] <Christoph_vW> I upgraded my machine with "do-release-upgrade -d" even it is not recommended
[07:45] <Christoph_vW> and already found two bugs in 12.04...
[07:45] <obakfahad> Guys any suggestion what i have to install for unity ?
[07:45] <Kriss3d> Hmm im running the 11.10 with gnome3.. the anoying thing that instead of administration menu it had "others" which had all the things in it such as synaptic.. but now its back to the good old days.. so far its great
[07:45] <totesmuhgoats> kelvinella: there is an ubuntu netbook remix if i am not mistaken
[07:45] <ikonia> Christoph_vW: please don't tell people to use -d
[07:45] <ikonia> Christoph_vW: it is wrong.
[07:46] <obakfahad> totesmuhgoats isnt that old ?
[07:46] <totesmuhgoats> so how is 12.04?
[07:46] <kelvinella> ubuntu netbook remix is so old
[07:46] <jarco> I ll try again. How can I install the unity version of ubuntu in some kind of safe mode or fallback mode since the normal mode is not working?
[07:46] <gvandeweyer> ikonia: no worry, I'm not doing that on the production machine
[07:46] <kelvinella> i want ubuntu moblin remix but it is also old
[07:46] <totesmuhgoats> obakfahad: i am not an ubuntu expert to be honest
[07:46] <obakfahad> totesmuhgoats fabulous .
[07:46] <ikonia> gvandeweyer: don't do it on any machine
[07:47] <totesmuhgoats> well i have an 11.10 home server, i was thinking about updating to 12.04 since its LTS and keeping it for 2 years
[07:47] <gvandeweyer> I'm running the xubuntu 12.04 beta on my laptop, and I notice the amount of issues is still too high for a production server
[07:47] <obakfahad> totesmuhgoats to be honest me too :)
[07:47] <totesmuhgoats> wondering if it is a good idea to update now or if i should hold off
[07:47] <jpic> totesmuhgoats: i like 12.04, it seems a little fatser on my computer
[07:47] <MaximB> is it harmless to delete old kernel dirs from usr/src ?
[07:47] <uBUxUBu> 12.04 seems very nice trying to get used to it today...
[07:47] <Christoph_vW> ikonia: what would be the issue? it upgrades to dev version - but afaik it would be updated to release later then
[07:47] <obakfahad> totesmuhgoats i have no idea about that server actually.
[07:47] <jpic> MaximB: maybe you should rather remove the old kernel and headers from apt-get
[07:48] <jpic> because they take a lot of disk space
[07:48] <obakfahad> Any suggestion for unity ?
[07:48] <ikonia> Christoph_vW: well, as 12.04 is now no longer a development version.......it will upgrade to an unstable mess as there is nothing useable about 12.10
[07:48] <obakfahad> I mean i want some interesting staff at unity ....
[07:48] <obakfahad> guys ?
[07:48] <ikonia> obakfahad: what ?
[07:49] <shruggar> went to upgrade ubuntu this morning, noticed that unionfs-fuse was listed as "no longer supported". What package replaces it for unionfs functionality?
[07:49] <fidel_> abramart: "some interesting" stuff isd like asking for nothing. in case you want feedback - ask a real/more detailed question
[07:49] <Pitel> I have a big problem... most of the lenses (especially the one with apps) are empty!
[07:49] <MaximB> cool, btw why I use 3.0.12 kernel when I also got 3.0.17 installed ?
[07:49] <fidel_> erm ... obakfahad  ;)
[07:50] <obakfahad> fidel_ whats that ?
[07:51] <obakfahad> Pitel have you installed any other theme ?
[07:51] <obakfahad> fidel_ whats that ?
[07:52] <obakfahad> fidel_ whats erm?
[07:52] <Pitel> obakfahad: nope, but I just formatted and reinstalled / partition, /home is untouched, so maybe it's some messed up config somewhere
[07:52] <cemc> is there an easy way to change the font in 12.04 ?
[07:52] <Pitel> obakfahad: also, the close/minimaze/maximize buttons are on the right corner
[07:52] <robinsmidsrod> is it possible in debian-installer/preseed to use a value (like hostname) to interpolate into other variables?
[07:53] <matthewL> Upgrade failed. Retry clean install data restore.
[07:53] <obakfahad> Your home partion is messing up.Pitel.You should remove every ".*" files and keep others likeDownloads Doc,Mus<DE.....
[07:53] <steve11> Hello room, I'm trying to triple-boot my Late 2011 macbook pro with OSX, Win7 and Ubu 12.04 - everything going well except I get a fatal error that the bootloader can't be installed at the end up the Ubuntu installation
[07:54] <Pitel> obakfahad: can you be more specific? I don;t want to lose configurations of normal apps (like xchat, games, chrome, etc.)
[07:54] <steve11> I've tried pointing the installer to install grub on the / partition and tried giving it its own partition "reserved boot bios area" or something like that
[07:55] <matthewL> Clean install Ubuntu, Steve, that might work.
[07:55] <MaximB> so any issues with upgrading to the new version ?
[07:55] <steve11> matthew, do you think it'd be better to just let Ubu do its own partitioning?
[07:55] <matthewL> Yes.
[07:55] <obakfahad> Pitel keep that things but delete thegnome2 or unity or other things from home folder.....keep which files or config you need .
[07:56] <steve11> like clear the partitions i made and just point the installer at the free space? awesome thanks
[07:56] <lotuspsychje> MaximB: seems like many ppl are happy
[07:56] <steve11> matthew, will it know where to put grub?
[07:56] <The_BROS> How to make Pigin and x-chat applet in 12.04?
[07:56] <matthewL> That's what i'm doing
[07:56] <MaximB> lotuspsychje:  happy or "happy" ?
[07:56] <lotuspsychje> very happy
[07:56] <matthewL> Doesn't grub go in mbr?
[07:56] <PawanPutraHanuma> why no upgradation available in ubuntu 10.04?
[07:56] <jatt> virtualbox in 12.04 segfaults is this a known issue?
[07:57] <steve11> matthew, i think it's different for macs, they don't have the same 'bios'
[07:57] <matthewL> VB faults in 11.10, top.
[07:57] <matthewL> Too
[07:57] <burnedup> hi.
[07:57] <MaximB> when trying to upgrade it says "cannot authenticate some packages" and closes ...why ?
[07:57] <matthewL> Steve, ah
[07:57] <jatt> I had 11.10 before and vitualbox worked
[07:57] <jatt> only after upgrading to 12.04 it segfaults on my machine
[07:58] <matthewL> Maxim try without wifi.
[07:58] <burnedup> i was upgrading to ubuntu 12.04 yesterday at work. when i get back ubuntu had failed installing the new files (after downloading)
[07:58] <obakfahad> Pitel first will you test a thing ? create a new user and restart and login with that and check whether that is ok....if ok then problem is in configs or if it is not then installation prob.
[07:58] <jatt> $ virtualbox
[07:58] <jatt> Segmentation fault
[07:58] <burnedup> and i cant get öy ubuntu uo again
[07:58] <MaximB> matthewL:  it's a desktop
[07:58] <matthewL> Or downgrading additional packages.
[07:58] <Pitel> obakfahad: ok, I guess I should do the cleanup without gnome running anyway
[07:58] <MaximB> nvm worked at second try
[07:58] <MaximB> upgradeing
[07:58] <MaximB> holding fingers
[07:59] <matthewL> Clean install completed successfully.
[07:59] <burnedup> i'm having exactly this problem: http://askubuntu.com/questions/125649/reboot-during-update-glibc-error
[08:00] <obakfahad> empathy with irc is great in 12.04
[08:00] <matthewL> First boot a success.
[08:01] <burnedup> nobody?
[08:01] <Ben64> is there an easy way to remove unity and effects on 12.04 yet?
[08:02] <hakim> bonjour
[08:02] <matthewL> Booty to Ubuntu 2d at login,64.
[08:02] <pndemc_> !gnome
[08:02] <pndemc_> !notunity
[08:02] <Ben64> i'll have to try that
[08:03] <minimec> Ben64: You can install the gnome environment. It will give you gnome3, gnome classic and gnome classic without compiz effects as WindowManager options.
[08:05] <throwaway_rq> anyone using gnome-session-fallback and alt-tab not working?
[08:05] <matthewL> Installing Ubuntu a success!
[08:05] <throwaway_rq> seems like it's a common bug now
[08:05] <lotuspsychje> minimec: is gnome classic default without installing gnome shell?
[08:08] <feisar> just to confirm: If I have been running 12.04 beta I just need to run 'apt-get update' 'apt-get dist-upgrade'?
[08:08] <popey> feisar: yes
[08:08] <feisar> then I have 12.04 LTS
[08:08] <popey> feisar: or use update manager
[08:08] <minimec> lotuspsychje: Non of them will be default. Until you switch from unity to another Window Manager in lightdm.
[08:08] <feisar> popey: thanks (I only have terminal as it's a server)
[08:09] <lotuspsychje> minimec: thats what i mean, do you have the option to login gnome classic by default, or you need to install first?
[08:09] <Mayazcherquoi> Hey guys. After upgrading from Oneiric to Precise, none of the default keyboard shortcuts work anymore (e.g. terminal -> CTRL+ALT+T, no longer works)
[08:09] <Mayazcherquoi> Custom works fine, though.
[08:10] <jatt> strace virtualbox says:
Effective UID is not root (euid=1000 egid=1000 uid=1000 gid=1000) (rc=-10)</b><br/><br/>Please try reinstalling VirtualBox.</html>
[08:10] <minimec> lotuspsychje: If you install the gnome environment (or gnome-panel), you will have that option in lightdm.
[08:10] <throwaway_rq> Mayazcherquoi: even alt-tab doesnt work
[08:10] <lotuspsychje> minimec: ok tnx
[08:10] <Mayazcherquoi> Alt+Tab works fine.
[08:11] <throwaway_rq> Mayazcherquoi: odd, not in my case.  alt+` doesn't either in gnome-terminal
[08:12] <Mayazcherquoi> throwaway_rq: Yeah, no, ALT+Tab works fine for me
[08:12] <jesse__> Does anyone know where I can download themes for unity (im using 12.4) ?
[08:13] <Boffy> hello.... i am doing upgrade at the moment. is it possible to upgrade form 11.04 directly to 12.04 using the 12.04 live cd?
[08:13] <auronandace> Boffy: no
[08:13] <feisar> Boffy: you need to use the alternate CDs and you can only go up 1 version at a time
[08:14] <auronandace> Boffy: you can upgrade from one to the next or from one lts to the next
[08:14] <popey> feisar: not true
[08:14] <Kireji> can I run a storage service on my (static IP, colod) ubuntu box that has Dropbox-like sync services with mac and windows clients?
[08:14] <feisar> oh sorry
[08:14] <popey> Boffy: you _can_ install over the top and keep your data if you want to?
[08:14] <Kireji> kind of like Ubuntu One, but served from my machine?
[08:15] <popey> Boffy: if you do an install over the top and choose manual partitioing and _do_ _not_ format the root partition it will install over the top and keep whatever was in /home
[08:15] <llutz> Kireji: why not,use stuff like this http://owncloud.org/
[08:15] <auronandace> popey: and break your system
[08:16] <Boffy> yeah that's what i am worried.
[08:16] <Boffy> i know i should be able to use liveUSB to go form 11.10 to 12.04
[08:16] <auronandace> Boffy: it really is a lot easier just clean installing
[08:16] <Boffy> at leats that would save soem downloading. if only i kept the 11.10 on the USB key before, but instea di erased it to give 12.04 a try and see if all works
[08:17] <Engin> i'm sending valid syslog udp packets to server but can't see them in /var/syslog, any common pitfalls ?
[08:17] <Boffy> the problem is that i have 25GB data to backup if i do clean install
[08:17] <Chousuke> if you really must keep /home you can install on the unformatted partition, but remove all directories except /home from it before
[08:17] <Chousuke> but backing up home is easier
[08:17] <auronandace> Boffy: then back it up
[08:17] <Boffy> not to meniton i will have to set it all up again. i have plenty programmes that are not in official repositories and i need them
[08:18] <never2far> hello ...how can i add a pogram to startup from command shell ? ...i have tried using rcconf but that program shows some programs as they are not at startup but they are already started
[08:18] <r4y> If my router is set to hidden, how do I connect Ubuntu 12.04 to it?
[08:18] <auronandace> Boffy: i keep what i need on a seperate storage partition and backup to an external harddrive, clean installs are a breeze
[08:18] <XDESIGN> i need install nautilus-gksu on ubuntu 12.04
[08:18] <jesse__> Hello.  The pink colors in the "Ambiance" theme are making me feel less manly.  Does anyone know where I can download additional themes for unity? I'm using 1.4
[08:18] <Engin> a tcpdump on server succesfully sees and parses the packets... but the server does not log the syslog messages in /var/log/syslog
[08:18] <Marzata> no skype via software center in 12.04?
[08:18] <auronandace> !skype | Marzata
[08:19] <pndemc_> !notunity
[08:19] <XDESIGN> x@x:~$ sudo apt-get install nautilus-gksu
[08:19] <XDESIGN> Reading package lists... Done
[08:19] <XDESIGN> Building dependency tree
[08:19] <XDESIGN> Reading state information... Done
[08:19] <XDESIGN> E: Unable to locate package nautilus-gksu
[08:19] <FloodBot1> XDESIGN: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[08:19] <XDESIGN> x@x:~$
[08:19] <Engin> too much population... this channel can't be useful :/
[08:19] <XDESIGN> sorry
[08:20] <feisar> when running an Ubuntu server what's the official way to get notified when critical updates and/or restarts are needed?
[08:20] <XDESIGN> help pls how to install nautilus-gksu
[08:20] <XDESIGN> ?
[08:21] <popey> XDESIGN: looks like that's not in the repository anymore
[08:21] <XDESIGN> a nieed repo
[08:21] <auronandace> XDESIGN: what? can't you use the command: gksudo nautilus?
[08:21] <enzotib> hi, in 12.04, lxterminal, if I hit Shift-Ctrl-C to copy a text, is also sends an interrupt, how to fix?
[08:21] <XDESIGN> auronandace ok
[08:21] <Marzata> auronandace: thanks, but the partners are already added
[08:21] <Marzata> auronandace: and still no skype in the software senter
[08:21] <erik32533> hi when will next version of ubuntu be out
[08:22] <popey> erik32533: october
[08:22] <auronandace> Marzata: odd, sorry i can't help, i don't use skype
[08:22] <erik32533> i see the desktop interface being changed
[08:23] <auronandace> erik32533: they are time based: 12.10 = 2012, 10th month
[08:23] <Boffy> on the upgrade... if i then move the home folder back will i keep the all settigns as well? i am thinking about moving it all to another disk and then back after fresh install since it realyl will be faster...
[08:23] <Boffy> 2.5hours for only one upgrade is not worth it. especially casuse there are 2 more to do.
[08:23] <erik32533> i  mean the desktop will look totally different
[08:24] <XDESIGN> ubuntu best linux of al time
[08:24] <XDESIGN> :)
[08:24] <XDESIGN> all*
[08:25] <sk1special> traffic died down a little here? my issue is when i have my workstations view open..while i can use each one and go to them i can not drag and drop windows between them
[08:26] <sk1special> i also get this message -  Xlib:  extension "RANDR" missing on display ":0" when i open any program that does seomthing ( ie xchat ) and all my window borders look like windows 98..
[08:27] <pratz> hey guys
[08:28] <pratz> ever happy about ubuntu 12.04
[08:28] <zykes-_> Why isn't there a libreadline5-dev package ?
[08:28] <Flywater> how about ubuntu-tweak
[08:28] <Ben64> i have 12.04 on my laptop, and it's not getting the correct gateway from dhcp
[08:29] <enzotib> in 12.04, lxterminal, if I hit Shift-Ctrl-C to copy a text, is also sends an interrupt, someone can confirm? and how to fix?
[08:30] <Flywater> how about ubuntu-tweak
[08:30] <popey> enzotib: confirmed
[08:31] <enzotib> popey, thanks, but have you any idea on how to look for a solution?
[08:31] <ikonia> enzotib: what's intr set to ?
[08:31] <sk1special> @enzotib. why hit shift?
[08:31] <enzotib> ikonia, intr = ^C;
[08:32] <popey> enzotib: known bug 971918
[08:32] <enzotib> oh, it is there!
[08:32] <ikonia> popey: is it actually a bug though as ^C should be interupt
[08:32] <enzotib> sk1special, because I want to copy, not interrupt
[08:32] <popey> its not ctrl+c
[08:32] <ikonia> that's correct/expected behaviour
[08:32] <popey> it's shift+ctrl+c
[08:32] <popey> works in gnome terminal
[08:32] <ikonia> popey: yes, but that is also ^C
[08:33] <popey> no, it isnt
[08:33] <ikonia> shift shouldn't change that
[08:33] <popey> shift is a modifier
[08:33] <jorn> hey, wasn't there a virtual package in ubuntu which installed a lot of the standard stuff for developers? like automake, autoconf, gcc, git, svn, ...?
[08:33] <popey> has worked for ~years in gnome terminal
[08:33] <sk1special> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/KeyboardShortcuts
[08:33] <popey> jorn: build-essential ?
[08:33] <sk1special> im new to linux..and thats for a older vs..but most of them work fine for me
[08:34] <ikonia> popey: I'm testing it on a Fedora 16 box now with gnome terminal and a Solaris 10 xterm and gnome terminal and ctrl+shift+c is giving me ^C
[08:34] <popey> they are broken then ☺
[08:34] <ikonia> popey: what distro/release did it used to work on with gnome terminal ?
[08:34] <jorn> popey: the description of that package syas i don't need it if i don't develop debian packages
[08:34] <jorn> but i think it was called something like that
[08:34] <popey> ikonia: ubuntu, for numerous releases
[08:34] <ikonia> popey: 10.04 a safe bet ?
[08:35] <popey> ikonia: i haven't used 10.04 for some time, maybe
[08:35] <richardlxc> how to convert  two pictures  in linux?
[08:35] <richardlxc> into one picture
[08:35] <ikonia> popey: any idea on one you can say "yup worked in that one"
[08:35] <ikonia> (just so I don't have to grab 5 versions looking for it)
[08:35] <enzotib> ikonia, I think if the windows use a shortcut for its working, it should not pass that to the terminal driver
[08:35] <popey> I'll snag 10.04
[08:35] <HaltingState> how do I set LC_COLLATE for whole system?
[08:35] <ikonia> enzotib: windows behaviour has no relevence to linux
[08:36] <ikonia> popey: don't worry, I'll get it, I was just seeing if you had an idea from memory for one that actually worked
[08:36] <matthewL> So happy with my new up to date Ubuntu!!
[08:36] <veleno> hello. how do I modify /etc/sudoers on a batch of 60 machines without logging into each one and 'sudo visudo'ing for all of them ?
[08:36] <enzotib> ikonia, I don't mean MS Win, I mean the lxterminal window
[08:36] <Ben64> how can i upgrade 12.04 from cd
[08:37] <ikonia> veleno: get a known working sudoers file and just copy it into place on the other machines
[08:37] <popey> ikonia: https://bugzilla.gnome.org/show_bug.cgi?id=600876 its been around for _years_
[08:37] <Ben64> one of my systems currently has 12.04 beta, and i have the cd, would like to avoid downloading 400MB that isn't necessary
[08:37] <Pitel> how can I specify font antialiasing?
[08:37] <ikonia> Ben64: you can only use the alternative CD
[08:37] <ikonia> popey: now I'm super curious what ubuntu version had this working
[08:37] <Ben64> ikonia: really? it opens synaptic for me when i put the cd in
[08:38] <ikonia> Ben64: the upgrade process can only use the alternative CD unless something has changed in 12.04
[08:38] <CelticTurnip> anyone got a link to upgrading the beta to the release... I'm on ubuntu.com and for the life of me I can't see anything
[08:38] <veleno> ikonia: i tried that, but i got a permission denied, despite the user doing it is a sudoer
[08:38] <ikonia> veleno: then that user doesn't have permissions
[08:38] <Ben64> CelticTurnip: the update manager should give you the updates to the final version
[08:39] <Ub_user> Hi all
[08:39] <Ub_user> someone use postfix with saslauthd under ubuntu 10.04?
[08:39] <CelticTurnip> Ben64: no problem, I updated yesterday and it says there are no updates today... I thought there would be some kind of update... oh well :)
[08:39] <cadeskywalker> [Definition]
[08:39] <cadeskywalker> failregex = ^<HOST> -.*"GET \/w00tw00t\.at\.ISC\.SANS\.DFind\:\).*".*
[08:40] <cadeskywalker> oups sorry wrong terminal
[08:40] <bjoern_> Hello, how can one check if a laptop has Nvidia Optimus? Ubuntu 12.04, trying to troubleshoot display problem.
[08:40] <Ub_user> Hi all! Does someone use saslauthd under ubuntu 10.04?
[08:41] <ozzy> hello
[08:41] <ozzy> i need help with usb live ubuntu
[08:41] <ozzy> why cant i put a persistent file bigger than 4 gb?
[08:42] <chmouel> Hey guys, I am having a problem with my Xorg crashing http://pastebin.com/u4vbpYFB with the intel_drv since the upgrade, is that a known issue ?
[08:42] <ikonia> ozzy: is your persistant file system fat ?
[08:42] <timing> Hi! How do I get that bar back which displays all the windows on the current workspace?
[08:42] <fishcooker> happy birthday PP
[08:42] <timing> so I can click on it an stuff
[08:42] <ozzy> i think so
[08:42] <ikonia> ozzy: it won't support a file bigger than 4GB then
[08:42] <ozzy> so i format to ntfs?
[08:43] <ikonia> ozzy: why not use ext which is a linux supported file system
[08:43] <ozzy> i need to format it from windows
[08:43] <osiris> upgrading from 10.04 to 12.04, on reboot does not list new kernel, also says the disk drive for / is not ready yet or not present. can anyone help ?
[08:44] <ikonia> ozzy: I'd not advise using NTFS, I don't actually think (but don't know) it will work
[08:44] <ozzy> will exfat work?
[08:44] <eather> ozzy: second ikonia, stick with fat32 if at all possible
[08:44] <ikonia> ozzy: don't think so
[08:44] <ikonia> still limited to 4GB
[08:45] <eather> then you need a puppy live cd with gparted, that will format yr flash drive to whatever you choose :)
[08:46] <ikonia> you can format it from the ubuntu live CD
[08:46] <ikonia> no need for puppy
[08:46] <eather> right
[08:46] <ozzy> can formatting my usb drive to ext brake it or make it unaccesable by win?
[08:46] <ikonia> ozzy: yes, it won't be usable by windows, but it certainly won't break it
[08:46] <eather> unreadable to win, but I have heard there is a way around that
[08:47] <eather> ...:D
[08:47] <linux> dfds
[08:47] <eather> thank you
[08:47] <linux> 什么阿
[08:48] <linux> where am i?
[08:48] <ikonia> linux: in an ubuntu support IRC chat channel
[08:49] <Pitel> how can I change font antialiasing? The defaults looks ugly. :(
[08:49] <sk1special> i used my usb drive to test/then install 12.04.. and my windows laptop still picks it up fine?
[08:49] <gaelfx> !zh | linux
[08:50] <MonkeyDust> sk1special  the grub menu should show both systems
[08:50] <fishcooker> where can i see the list of bug of PP?
[08:50] <osiris> anyone have success upgrading from LTS to LTS ?
[08:50] <fishcooker> i don't try that on my production box osiris
[08:50] <fishcooker> 10.04 will be remain in 10.04
[08:50] <Ben64> osiris: haven't tried yet, going to backup my partition beforehand
[08:50] <MonkeyDust> osiris  finished succesfully here
[08:50] <osiris> problems here
[08:50] <sk1special> yeah it does. i ment cus they were talking about it being unreadable on a seperate windows machine..and mine reads it fine
[08:50] <fishcooker> congratz monkeydost
[08:50] <fishcooker> monkeydust
[08:51] <Ben64> i haven't done a fresh install since Edgy Eft
[08:51] <fishcooker> congrat
[08:51] <fishcooker> z
[08:51] <MonkeyDust> fishcooker  having issues upgrading?
[08:51] <fishcooker> big applause for ben64
[08:51] <fishcooker> :D
[08:51] <fishcooker> i haven't tried it monkeydust
[08:51] <osiris> well for starters new kernel is not showing in grub
[08:51] <sk1special> i need help fixing my work station view tho..i can switch between them and go to them all. but i can not drag and drop between them
[08:52] <Ben64> osiris: can you choose an old one?
[08:52] <oal> Anyone else having problems with the mouse cursor not moving between screens in 12.04? Nvidia drivers
[08:52] <osiris> i can, but it drops to "the disk drive for / is not ready yet or not present"
[08:52] <linux> join #ubuntu-cn
[08:53] <halfie> hi, i have installed ubuntu 12.04 but I can't hear any sound on headphones connected to Sound Blaster XFI sound card. Any tips to get sound working?
[08:53] <Ben64> osiris: strange... do you have any weird drive setup going? like raid or something?
[08:53] <sk1special> @oal. my my mouse gets stuckish between screens..but it switches over
[08:53] <sk1special> slike hitting a speed bump
[08:54] <osiris> nope. old 2 ghz celery, 2 gigs of ram, and a couple of ide drives
[08:54] <oal> sk1special: yup, I noticed that as well. Very annoying!
[08:54] <Ben64> osiris: have you tried popping in a live cd and checking whats going on?
[08:54] <gaelfx> hahaha, celery. I like. I'm gonna borrow that if you haven't TMed it
[08:54] <stimpie> sk1special, its the resistance used to show the launcher
[08:55] <osiris> well from the recovery prompt it appears the data is safe, although mounted read-only. im pretty sure i could live rescue it with a usb drive, but quite frankly i have too much data on the drive to move it all
[08:55] <sk1special> ah. my drivers are being retarted tho. depending on my options/driver pick/set up. i can get one of my screens to work perfect..but not see the second.
[08:55] <sk1special> or get both screens to work..but it has that windows 98 look to menus and cant drag and drop between workstations..
[08:56] <sk1special> or i can get one screen to work and look normal..and the other to be a solid grey light
[08:56] <Ben64> osiris: i meant more along the lines of making sure fstab and grub options are set to load the correct partition
[08:56] <bhaisahab> hey ubuntu pkg maintainers sasl broke my mail server https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/cyrus-sasl2/+bug/875440
[08:56] <sk1special> also. how do i red text people?
[08:56] <bhaisahab> any updates on that
[08:56] <osiris> havent been that far yet, as i fear the cd drives are........ old
[08:56] <osiris> the uuid's in fstab appear right
[08:57] <vp18> has anyone tried cinnamon 1.4
[08:57] <bhaisahab> what would you say I use dovecot for sasl instead of cyrus? has anyone done that
[08:57] <gaelfx> I'm trying to connect to an NFS share I set up on another computer in my network, but the connection always times out, both comps are running 12.04, can someone help me figure this out?
[08:58] <halfie> gaelfx: are NFS ports open or is the firewall inactive?
[08:58] <gaelfx> halfie: good thought, I'll check
[08:58] <fishcooker> monkeydust ben64 osiris,, where could i see the list of bug on ubuntu?
[08:59] <halfie> gaelfx: first try getting your setup running with no firewall (iptables -F)
[08:59] <MonkeyDust> !tab| fishcooker
[08:59] <Starminn> I have just installed Ubuntu 12.04, and after trying to place all of my old fonts into the new install, I am only getting little squares where letters should be. Any ideas?  (On a separate computer currently to type this)
[09:00] <bhaisahab> helpl  heer,
[09:00] <bhaisahab> help here
[09:00] <pschweitzer> Hi, when will the 12.04LTS will be marked as LTS to allow safe upgrade from 10.04 to 12.04 using do-release-upgrade?
[09:00] <pschweitzer> (to prevent using the --devel flag)
[09:01] <bluefrog> Starminn, have you rebuilt the fonts cache?
[09:01] <bhaisahab> it is now
[09:01] <bhaisahab> do it now!
[09:01] <vincent> ./quit
[09:01] <bhaisahab> bluefrog: do it
[09:01] <gaelfx> halfie: hm, I don't see any ports being forwarded on my router RE NFS, how can I check if the NFS is actually running on the server?
[09:01] <Starminn> bluefrog: I've not heard of this ever before, so probably not. :)
[09:01] <sk1special> @fishcooker https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu
[09:01] <bluefrog> Starminn, try   sudo fc-cache -f -v
[09:01] <bhaisahab> hey anyone about postfix, sasl2 authentication bug for email server?
[09:01] <Hardcorefrank> just poping in here because I normally do after a ubuntu release to see what you guys think here
[09:01] <lotuspsychje> the greatest screencast recorder is nog in official repos: kazam
[09:02] <luca__> salve io ho un problema con plymouth manager
[09:02] <lotuspsychje> !info kazam
[09:02] <osiris> gaelfx: you can netstat -a and look for nfs running on the server side
[09:02] <halfie> gaelfx: netstat -nltp should show portmap and some rpc process. though there is a better way which i forgot
[09:02] <Starminn> bluefrog: It has finished running. I suppose a restart would be in order to be most effective?
[09:02] <MonkeyDust> !es| luca__
[09:02] <halfie> gaelfx: got it, run "rpcinfo -p"
[09:02] <luca__> ho cliccato sul tasto compatibilità con burg e da allora non si avvia più
[09:02] <bluefrog> Starminn, not that I am aware of
[09:02] <gaelfx> halfie: osiris I'll try both in a minute
[09:02] <gaelfx> *all three
[09:03] <bluefrog> Starminn, log out/in at grand maximum
[09:03] <goddard> how can i clear space from my boot partition?
[09:03] <bluefrog> goddard, uninstall old kernels
[09:03] <ikonia> goddard: remove what you don't need
[09:03] <luca__> hi i have a problem with plymouth manager
[09:04] <lotuspsychje> !info activity-log-manager
[09:04] <goddard> bluefrog: is there a way i can do that in the terminal?
[09:04] <lotuspsychje> nice
[09:04] <luca__> this program doesn't work on my pc because i clicked on compatibility with burg
[09:04] <Starminn> bluefrog: Did a full restart (I know it's overkill on Linux, but I figure it's a sure-fire way, nonetheless to test if something got fixed) and am experiencing the same problem.
[09:04] <bluefrog> goddard, don't understand
[09:05] <goddard> nvm
[09:05] <luca__> someone has an idea?
[09:05] <nitzs> why is there such a big gap between the top bar and the notification popups?
[09:05] <gaelfx> halfie: actually, I just noticed transmission's port doesn't seem to be automatically forwarding either, which seems rather strange
[09:05] <onoez_omg> hey guys, how may i move the applents into 12.04' gnome classic?
[09:06] <Starminn> bluefrog: The plain shell (CTRL+ALT+F1->F6) displays fine, though, so it may just be an Ubuntu font problem. Is there a sane way to change the font on 12.04 built-in? (i.e. Other than GNOME's "Advanced Settings"?)
[09:06] <bluefrog> goddard, sry was thinking about another problem.  apt-get purge linux-image then tab to find what's installed
[09:06] <gaelfx> onoez_omg: if you mean like Gnome 2, I think your best shot is to use MATE
[09:06] <Stuu> Hey guys
[09:06] <nitzs> Starminn: you might have a look at gconf-editor
[09:07] <sk1special> @nitzs.. was just reading the billionaire guys blog posts..and he was talking about hating how they covered each other up when you were trying to do something..so maybe ?
[09:07]  * Starminn will be right back
[09:07] <fishcooker> MonkeyDust: thankyou it work on pidgin
[09:07] <onoez_omg> gaelfx, it is gnome 3 with fallback to classic view, anyway thx, but what is MATE?
[09:07] <goddard> bluefrog: can i just do apt-get remove and then the image name
[09:08] <goddard> bluefrog: is that safe?
[09:08] <fishcooker> thanks sk1special
[09:08] <gaelfx> onoez_omg: linux mint's fork of gnome 2
[09:08] <bluefrog> goddard, if you want. safe? don't understand
[09:08] <ikonia> it's not gnome 2
[09:08] <ikonia> it's still gnome 3
[09:08] <sk1special> n/p
[09:08] <luca__> thanks for the help
[09:08] <onoez_omg> gaelfx, is it a good idea to mix mint packages with native ones? :/
[09:09] <nitzs> sk1special: but if a new notification popup occurs, the older one should scroll down to make way. that would've looked cool.
[09:09] <ikonia> onoez_omg: use mint packages on mint, ubuntu packages on ubuntu
[09:09] <gaelfx> onoez_omg: not sure on that one, might wanna check if MATE is in the repos. if it is, it should be more or less fine
[09:09] <onoez_omg> i already did, it is not, thx
[09:10] <nitzs> onoez_omg: do you know about cinnamon?
[09:10] <sk1special> yeah he *called for community/dev input* to help finalize /  update  /whatever make to make it easier to use in the coming updates. was talking about doing same placement but delayed popups by detecting where the cursor was
[09:10] <gaelfx> halfie: ok, I found that NFS shows up in rpcinfo, and it listed the port for it as well, but I was wondering whether or not NFS uses upnp or not?
[09:10] <onoez_omg> nitzs, is it some kind of mint crap again?
[09:10] <nitzs> mint crap?
[09:10] <sk1special> how do i red text people? or is that like a mod thing?
[09:11] <morning> I need help with a failed upgrade to Precise (64). I neglected to turn off x-screensaver, with the result that installation was interrupted while trying to install libc6. Now I´m stuck. I can reboot to a recovery menu but don´t know where to go from there. Guidance?
[09:11] <ikonia> morning: clean install
[09:11] <MonkeyDust> sk1special  colors depend on the IRC program you are using
[09:11] <ikonia> morning: boot from a livecd backup what you need and do a clean install
[09:11] <goddard> each one of these kernels takes up 128MB
[09:11] <goddard> i have like 10 installed
[09:11] <sk1special> but like.. normally its name blue text black. and when you guys do that with my name specifcally it goes all red
[09:11] <morning> ikonia: thank you. will do.
[09:12] <dubey> hello
[09:12] <goddard> or more
[09:12] <uBUxUBu> is anyone here using 12.04 as we speak?
[09:12] <onoez_omg> me
[09:12] <acicula> uBUxUBu: i am
[09:12] <nitzs> onoez_omg: if you don't like unity, and you don't like MATE, cinnamon is your best option. or maybe xfce.
[09:12] <MonkeyDust> sk1special  try /me blah
[09:12] <sk1special> and i am ubu
[09:12] <fishcooker> sk1special: what means by triage.. what difference with confirmed?
[09:12] <dubey> i wan to create a customized ubuntu cd with only required applications. How can i do this ?
[09:12] <goddard> if you like 11.10 i dont see a reason to upgrade
[09:12] <uBUxUBu> does your icon launcher go in and out of site or does it stay fixed acicula
[09:12] <popey> dubey: yes
[09:13] <popey> dubey: maybe look at remastersys? or live-build
[09:13] <MonkeyDust> dubey  try remastersys
[09:13] <acicula> dubey: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/LiveCDCustomization
[09:13] <Pitel> how can I configure fonts and antialiasing?
[09:13] <sk1special> did you see that message monkey?
[09:13] <gaelfx> what message monkey?
[09:13] <onoez_omg> nitzs, thanks, but mixing things with mint is not an option, reinstalling the whole system is not an option, again, thanks for your attention
[09:14] <killer1> hi.............i wanna install wireless drivers for bcm4312 card and dun wanna install prop. drivers.any help?
[09:14] <jarco> I just installed the new ubuntu using the alternate cd. Now I am only getting to the loading screen. Anyone know how I can boot it in a save mode?
[09:14] <jarco> lowe graphics mode
[09:14] <MonkeyDust> sk1special  this is not the right channel to learn IRC, better join #test or #freenode
[09:14] <dubey> any doc ?
[09:14] <onoez_omg> killer1, are you sure there are some non-prop drivers for your broadcom?
[09:15] <onoez_omg> pff
[09:15] <sk1special> lol ight.  chello gaelfx. i did a fresh install and the same thing is happening with my video again that fixed before.
[09:15] <lotuspsychje> !info remastersys
[09:15] <krababbel> jarco: did you try esc? ctrl+alt+f1 would take you to an alternative terminal. also there is rescue mode in boot menu.
[09:16] <krababbel> jarco: low graphics mode is text mode.
[09:16] <sk1special> depending on options/which driver what video sets i choose. i can get one monitor to wwork fine. or both to work but the windows have that win 98 look to them and no drap and drop between workstations or one working and one grey screen
[09:16] <sk1special> drag*
[09:17] <jarco> krababbel: can i install the nvidia drivers from the text mode?
[09:17] <krababbel> jarco: yes, you can do everything there I guess
[09:17] <onoez_omg> jarco, apt-get install nvidia-current
[09:17] <jarco> The problem is it doesn't seem to go in there :(
[09:17] <krababbel> jarco: can you switch terminal?
[09:18] <krababbel> jarco: try rescue mode
[09:18] <Somya> I am still not able to figure out why the wlan0 driver is not showing up after I have upgraded the ubuntu version to 11.04
[09:18] <gaelfx> does NFS use upnp to autoforward it's port?
[09:18] <jarco> krababbel: nope :( ctrl alt + F 1 - 5 not working
[09:18] <gaelfx> or is there a way to make it do that?
[09:18] <bepebe> is there a network proxy gui, like the one in ubuntu. I have set /etc/apt/apt.conf and /etc/wgetrc with my proxy settings manually, but cannot seem to download Additional Drivers. I am looking for a .deb install or something for the Network Proxy option under System >> Network Proxy
[09:19] <halfie> gaelfx: NFS doesn't use upnp AFAIK
[09:19] <onoez_omg> Somya, could you please provide ur `lspci`, `rfkill list all` and `dmesg`?
[09:19] <krababbel> jarco: try rescue mode and there you can look at /var/log/xorg
[09:19] <gaelfx> halfie: so I have to add the rule to my router myself?
[09:19] <krababbel> jarco: does live cd work?
[09:19] <jarco> krababbel: booting into rescue mode right now
[09:19] <fishcooker> if im upgrade from LL to PP.. on server
[09:19] <halfie> gaelfx: yes, and some NFS ports are random (there is a way to make them static though).
[09:20] <fishcooker> will the unity stuff be installed?
[09:20] <halfie> gaelfx: for simple file sharing, sshfs works without all this mess.
[09:20] <krababbel> jarco: what card do you have?
[09:20] <fishcooker> actually im on server LL
[09:20] <jarco> krababbel: I am not sure. I know it worked with the nvidia drivers under fedora.
[09:21] <gaelfx> halfie: I kinda need it to be gui though
[09:21] <jarco> krababbel: I am in rescue mode now
[09:21] <krababbel> do < onoez_omg> jarco, apt-get install nvidia-current
[09:21] <onoez_omg> fishcooker, from what i see now from 12.04 i suppose (somehow) that the answer is yes
[09:22] <halfie> gaelfx: sshfs mount points can be opened in GUI explorers, is that what you are talking about?
[09:22] <anax> Hello, all! I have just installed Ubuntu 12.04, and I've noticed that I have never installed proprietery drivers for my graphics card. I have the Intel Graphics Family with GeForce 520M graphic card. When I start the Proprietery Drivers application, it shows nothing. My question is, what will happen if I install Nvidia drivers on my own?
[09:22] <gaelfx> halfie: I suppose, more or less
[09:22] <fishcooker> omg onoez_omg
[09:22] <ogra_> fishcooker, if you dont have a GUI now, its wont install  GUI during upgrade
[09:22] <onoez_omg> fishcooker, indeed
[09:23] <gaelfx> halfie: does sshfs require login using the machines UID and pass though?
[09:23] <fishcooker> same here anax
[09:23] <fishcooker> im on the 520m
[09:23] <fishcooker> i've openbox installed ogra
[09:24] <fishcooker> ogra_:
[09:24] <halfie> gaelfx: ssh requires running sshd on the server and on client it involves giving credentials to mount a folder.
[09:24] <onoez_omg> 540m with optimus and bumblebee and solid unmoveable gnome applets on 12.04 :/
[09:24] <ogra_> fishcooker, so it wont pull in unity, it will just upgrade what you have
[09:24] <anax> Well, I've added this PPA for X.org drivers, but I don't know what will happen if I install nvidia-current, so I came to ask. :)
[09:24] <jarco> how do i setup the dns ? Its not getting that from dhcp. Ping to external ip works
[09:25] <fishcooker> go for it anax
[09:25] <onoez_omg> jarco, /etc/resolv.conf is ur friend
[09:25] <fishcooker> or try the recommended one
[09:25] <fishcooker> it works for me
[09:26] <ray_> When I was testing Ubuntu 12.04 from CD I couldn't connect to the internet, but after installing I was able to connect
[09:26] <gaelfx> how do you check the permissions on a folder?
[09:26] <gaelfx> in cli I mean
[09:26] <PawanPutraHanuma> gaelfx, ls -lrth
[09:26] <anax> Is there a chance of something going terribly wrong? Like, me losing my desktop enviroment, and then having to return it all. Or will I always be able to enter Unity 2D and work from there?
[09:27] <Thete> Does 12.04 still require the special +mac version to work right?
[09:27] <onoez_omg> anax, you won't lose ur desktop environment, the most risky part is falling back to ur current nvidia driver or purging it at all in order to use intel graphics (if u have one)
[09:27] <SteveBell> hi all. got a question about keyboard layouts. using a macbook here and the keys are somewhat twisted. in os X e.g. all firefox commands like new tab would be cmd+n. but in ubuntu it is ctrl+n. is there a possibility to adjust the keys so that they would work like in os x?
[09:28] <onoez_omg> anax, things shouldn't go bad i suppose, don't worry
[09:28] <ray_> How do I switch back to gnome?
[09:28] <xapel> has anyone here found a good workaround or fix for this bug https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/update-manager/+bug/947296
[09:28] <fl1bbl3> install gnome shell
[09:29] <anax> Well, I have no installed drivers at the moment, just the ones that came with Ubuntu, so I guess I'm good to go. I'll let you guys know what happened! Thanks a lot! :)
[09:29] <sk1special> dont lie lol. my desktop has died several times trying to update/fix my nvidia drivers. but its usually let me log in as a guest which apparently uses default settings to start and change back the nvidia settings then reboot which fixes it..
[09:29] <jarco> krababbel: in rescue mode i cat resolv.conf. It sais the file is not there. I can see it when i LS
[09:29] <fl1bbl3> ray_: apt-get install gnome-shell
[09:29] <ray_> I heard Unity can be switched to Gnome from the login screen. So I have to install gnome-shell then
[09:30] <onoez_omg> sk1special, ur desktop was remeining the same alive, while u were experiencing problems with driver
[09:30] <ogra_> xapel, the bug has a workaround described at the bottom
[09:30] <ray_> Arg, how do I minimize a window?
[09:30] <krababbel> jarco: not sure, resolv.conf is handled by resolvconf package. You have no connection?
[09:30] <sk1special> lol my desktop was hiding in a black/grey/purple void of emptyness depending.
[09:31] <onoez_omg> jarco, `whereis resolv.conf`
[09:31] <jarco> krababbel: I have connection but no dns
[09:31] <onoez_omg> sk1special, u always have an option to log into virtual console or over ssh remotely
[09:31] <krababbel> jarco: you could try creating /etc/resolv.conf
[09:32] <jarco>  /etc/resolv.conf (i think this one is empty) and /usr/include/resolv.h
[09:32] <sk1special> which i have no idea how to do :] third day now on linux. i like it..but alot to learn/figure out/get to work the way i want
[09:32] <jarco> I cant save to it
[09:32] <ray_> The only way I can get back to this window is by doing alt-tab. How do I minimize windows?
[09:32] <abhi_69> i can't access NTFS partitions from nautilus
[09:32] <sk1special> @ ray..should be if you move your mouse near the top itll pop up with a close/min/max buttons on the left
[09:32] <ray_> Never mind. I figured it out
[09:33] <abhi_69> nautilus giving me error: seg fault (core dumped)
[09:33] <abhi_69> any help?
[09:33] <krababbel> jarco: You could enter dns into /etc/resolvconf/resolv.conf.d/head
[09:33] <krababbel> jarco: then do resolvconf -u
[09:33] <onoez_omg> sk1special, the best way to start (in order to learnthings clear) is getting an old version of slackware distribution for example and setting up all the stuff including graphical environment, imho it is the best way
[09:34] <morning> To recover from a failed upgrade to Precise, I´m reinstalling Oneiric from a live CD. The installer detects "that the follwoing disks have mounted partitions: /dev/sda." And it asks whether I want the installer "to unmount the partions on these disks before continuing." I want to be careful not to lose the data on my hard disk. What should be my answer: Yes or no?
[09:34] <ray_> What I figured out is different. It's what is on the left. What's that called?
[09:34] <abhi_69> i can't open those using nautilus
[09:34] <ogra_> ray_, you mean the launcher ?
[09:35] <ray_> How would I know, lol
[09:35] <qEssence> Hello.
[09:35] <ogra_> well, the stripe on the left with the icons is called launcher :)
[09:35] <sk1special> yeah youre right..from my experience with windows anyway. but i need a functioning comp lol. so when i get some xtra cash ill build a breakable
[09:35] <abhi_69> anyone? help me plz, nautilus problem
[09:36] <ikonia> abhi_69: I told you what to do
[09:36] <ikonia> abhi_69: the error is "directory is missing" check if it's actually there
[09:36] <nitzs> it just been about 20 hours and already 70 mb worth of updates?
[09:36] <abhi_69> ikonia, i already do that
[09:36] <jarco> krababbel: error /run/resolvconf/interface either does not exist or is not a directory ...
[09:36] <ikonia> abhi_69: did what ?
[09:36] <abhi_69> install samba
[09:36] <ray_> OK, TY, For some reason I don't see minimized, and so forth on the top left of Firefox when hovering there
[09:36] <abhi_69> now that error is solved
[09:36] <krababbel> jarco: sorry, not sure about rescuemode and dns then
[09:36] <abhi_69> i got the idea from a post of ubuntu forum
[09:36] <sk1special> i was installing win 8 beta actually. and it crashed my pc so hard i couldnt reinstall from any of my backup/recovery/actual oem discs of any win vs..so i came here
[09:37] <gaelfx> wow, finally got NFS working :D
[09:37] <gaelfx> thanks folks
[09:37] <onoez_omg> and yeah, if someone interested, i figured out how to move applets in gnome 3 classic fallback session lol, Alt+right click helps
[09:37] <abhi_69> now a new error: seg fault (code dump)
[09:37] <ikonia> abhi_69: I have no idea why you are doing this, the error is clear, "directory is missing"
[09:37] <ray_> TY, ogra_ for the info
[09:38] <ray_> I got it now, I prefer the window bars being where they used to be
[09:38] <abhi_69> ikonia, now i'm getting new error, only a single line error while trying to access them, that is: seg fault (core dumped)
[09:38] <abhi_69> no other errors now
[09:38] <abhi_69> no directory missing error or so
[09:38] <ikonia> abhi_69: no idea, you'd need to analyise the core which is a very complex process
[09:38] <qEssence> Im having some issues with my hard drives on 12.04 install, i have four ones, one SSD of 250gb and three SATA of 3TB each, But, installationg its only recognizing the SSD, and one of the SATA. Both fdisk and gparted shows the same, and the four HDD's are visible and useable on win7. Does anyone knows what can be causing this?
[09:39] <abhi_69> i already try a solution- that is removing gvfs-metadata from ~/local/share and reboot pc
[09:39] <abhi_69> not working
[09:39] <onoez_omg> qEssence, do u use some kind of removable sata-controller?
[09:39] <ray_> OK, so when I resize a window the menu is like before then. OK, I am finally getting the hang of Unity a little. I should go to the beginner channel. Bye all
[09:39] <abhi_69> does this problem related to nautilus-gdu extension?
[09:39] <nitzs> abhi_69: start nautilus from the terminal and try to access the NTFS partitions. paste the crash output on paste.ubuntu.com
[09:40] <qEssence> onoez_omg: No, they are all connected directly to motherboard.
[09:40] <md_5> I am using xbinkeys on 12.04 in an attempt to make back / forward on my mouse work
[09:40] <md_5> It works correctly on firefox but not nautilus...
[09:41] <onoez_omg> qEssence, did u try to play with it in order to try to see some of them u didn't with pluggin and unpluggin\changing them one with another?
[09:41] <md_5> I can't think of any reason why this would be the case, but it is :(
[09:41] <qEssence> onoez_omg: Yep, Same results.
[09:41] <qEssence> onoez_omg: Weird, ah?
[09:42] <selite> How do I access the recovery partition on Vaio VPC EB2H4E?
[09:42] <qEssence> Do you think this can be related to nouveau.blacklist=1 command?
[09:42] <onoez_omg> qEssence, u always able to see only one of those sata-drives and u're 100% positive its not about physical connection trouble?
[09:42] <onoez_omg> qEssence, can u throw ur `dmesg` output just to look through?
[09:43] <abhi_69> nitzs, here it is- http://paste.ubuntu.com/949382/
[09:43] <SteveBell> got a question about keyboard layouts. using a macbook here and the keys are somewhat twisted. in os X e.g. all firefox commands like new tab would be cmd+n. but in ubuntu it is ctrl+n. is there a possibility to adjust the keys so that they would work like in os x?
[09:43] <qEssence> onoez_omg: Im 100% sure its not a connection problem, because i can widely use them all on Win7. Maybe im wrong whit this and it does not prove anything.
[09:43] <md_5> could nautilus perhaps be eeating my button presses?
[09:43] <action09> hi , anyone installed 12.04 on Giada N20 please ?
[09:44] <woozly> guys. how to create link to executable file?
[09:44] <woozly> like in /usr/bin/
[09:44] <skramer_> I would like to get my old serial WACOM ArtPad II to work with Precise. I compiled the kernel module, but still Ubuntu says that it did not detect any WACOM tablet... Am I missing something?
[09:44] <onoez_omg> qEssence, i doubt it is connected to nouveau, and yeah, it is weird =) `dmesg` could countain some hints
[09:44] <ogra_> woozly, man ln will tell you :)
[09:44] <sk1special> @steve..https://help.ubuntu.com/community/KeyboardShortcuts has alot of stuff
[09:45] <dpkingma> Hello #ubuntu! Does anyone have a Juju Charm for MongoDB 2.0+ ?
[09:45] <qEssence> onoez_omg: Never used dmesg before, newbie here =P, since fidisk and gparted does not shows anything, do you think dmesg will work?
[09:45] <md_5> dmesg shows everything
[09:45] <selite> How do I know if my laptop has a recovery partition?
[09:45] <SteveBell> sk1special thx, will have a look.
[09:45] <qEssence> Im not on installation proccess right now, back to Win7 to gather some info.
[09:46] <nitzs> abhi_69: looks like it is a reported bug: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/compiz/+bug/811171
[09:46] <onoez_omg> qEssence, dmesg shows some of the events related to kernel,hardware and its interaction, it is just a command generally speaking that u type into ur terminal =)
[09:47] <uBUxUBu> selite, did you buy it new, and did you never manipluate the partitions?
[09:47] <sk1special> n/p . found it trying work around broken video drivers yesterday :]
[09:47] <qEssence> onoez_omg: Yeah, i know, i meant that fdisk and gparted does not seem to be able to `see`  the HDD's, but i can try it.
[09:48] <qEssence> onoez_omg:  i was also thinking on the alternate install CD.
[09:48] <ogra_> dpkingma, probably a better question on #ubuntu-server :)
[09:48] <selite> uBUxUBu: I bought it like a year ago and I only installed Ubuntu, my guess is there is a recovery partition. But, I can't access it with F10 I guess it's because Win7 doesn't work.
[09:48] <selite> uBUxUBu: What should I do?
[09:48] <dpkingma> ogra_: Thanks! I
[09:48] <dpkingma>  I'll Try!
[09:48] <abhi_69> nitzs, now what?
[09:48] <abhi_69> wait for fix?
[09:48] <Kriss3d> Hmm can you in gnome add a menu sorta like "places" but add another name ?
[09:49] <abhi_69> nautilus giving this error while trying to access NTFS partitions only
[09:49] <md_5> sigh I can't switch to ubuntu until I get this back/forward working in nautilus
[09:49] <onoez_omg> qEssence, dmesg often shows if something goes really wrong like with hdds, controller and other things related to your current problem, so it would help much if u would just copy-paste whole dmesg cmd output into pastebin and let us to see it =)
[09:49] <uBUxUBu> selite, some computers access it from an f key some need the recovery disk to get into it
[09:49] <abhi_69> it's ok for ubuntu partition though
[09:49] <qEssence> onoez_omg: Thank you so much, i'll do that.
[09:50] <selite> uBUxUBu: Hmmm, I will try the f key, I am sure that I wasn't given a CD with Win7 on it.
[09:50] <selite> uBUxUBu: Thank you.
[09:50] <onoez_omg> qEssence, np, we havn't fixed it yet though lol and i have no idea if i will be able to help really, but always keep in mind that dmesg would help ppl to deal with such kind of troubles
[09:51] <jatt> I upgraded to pangolin yesterday and the whole system feels much slower than before the upgrade, are there any known issues regarding performance?
[09:51] <uBUxUBu> selite, some computers will get you to recovery by typing recovery in the search bar and even burning the disks from that point
[09:51] <qEssence> onoez_omg: I undersand, just a step closer.
[09:51] <jatt> I am using xfce without composition
[09:51] <jatt> I wonder if it is related to the kernel
[09:52] <selite> uBUxUBu: Which search bar? I am currently runnin Ubuntu and Win7 doesn't start it says something like No OS files found.
[09:52] <uBUxUBu> oh sorry nm
[09:52] <uBUxUBu> most manufacturers wil ship the recovery disks if you need them for 10-15 bucks
[09:53] <onoez_omg> the other question is if u really need those hah
[09:54] <drussell> jatt: hmm, not that I'm aware of, everything seems to be a bit quicker here, but it's all pretty subjective
[09:54] <drussell> jatt: what are you finding slower?
[09:55] <ojii> so I upgraded to 12.04 yesterday, and if I log into unity3d, the displays go black after about 1-2 minutes after login. Just before going black, it looks like unity is actually crashing hard. I have to kill X then and log into unity2d if i want to use my laptop. What could I do to fix this or figure out why it happens?
[09:55] <dad> gey'
[09:55] <dad> et
[09:55] <dad> hi
[09:55] <jatt> virtualbox, also the whole desktop (open the applications menu), chrome, etc
[09:55] <Guest55679> hi
[09:55] <jatt> it's verz sluggish
[09:55] <uBUxUBu> selite it is possible that you installed ubuntu and dedicated the entire hard drive to ubuntu thus wiping out w7
[09:55] <Guest55679> ikr
[09:56] <Guest55679> hu
[09:57] <zvacet> uBUxUBu: no
[09:58] <uBUxUBu> during the partitioning sectiona person may delete all partitions and then rebuild the mif they choose to do so zvacet - am i wrong?
[09:59] <MonkeyDust> uBUxUBu  yes, if you did not use them, if you know what you are doing
[10:00] <ItsMeLenny> the latest ubuntu is completely screwed up, nothing is working, it is driving me up the wall, and ive been using ubuntu for like 3 years now
[10:00] <ItsMeLenny> if not longer
[10:01] <jarco> well
[10:01] <uBUxUBu> selite is trying to find his recovery partition, i merely stated that it is possible to have deleted it, i do not condone doing that, unless someone specifically wants too
[10:01] <ikonia> how long you've used it has no relevence really
[10:01] <MonkeyDust> ItsMeLenny  what's wrong?
[10:01] <ItsMeLenny> ikonia, it does if it's gotten worse
[10:01] <jarco> seems like it is Impossible to install ubuntu on a non supported video card even if you know the nvidia drivers will work. There is just no option given to do this ...
[10:01] <maya> Why isn't it easy to make the Task Tray appear in unity5 with a mouse?
[10:01] <ikonia> not really, won't change the fact that you're having problems
[10:01] <ikonia> jarco: what's the actual issue you are having ?
[10:02] <maya> It feels like I need more effort just so it slides out/appear.
[10:02] <ItsMeLenny> MonkeyDust, unity was just glitchy as all buggery, both 3d and 2d, same with gnome classic, am now running cinnamon and just everything is still screwed up
[10:02] <maya> I try turning up Unity Tray sensitivity up, but it's not giving me the desired effect.
[10:02] <maya> :(
[10:02] <MonkeyDust> ItsMeLenny  i use classic too, define "screwed up"?
[10:02] <jarco> ikonia: When I boot my system I see the loading screen but it stops there.
[10:03] <ikonia> jarco: what makes you think that's a video card issue ?
[10:03] <ItsMeLenny> the unity in 11.10 unity worked fine for me
[10:03] <onoez_omg> ItsMeLenny, gnome classic session of mine http://ovrload.ru/temp/%D0%A1%D0%BD%D0%B8%D0%BC%D0%BE%D0%BA-2012-04-27_14:01:00_72520411b406b47081c0644e6c684b1c.png
[10:03] <MonkeyDust> ItsMeLenny  and define "everything"
[10:03] <jarco> ikonia: because I had the same problem with fedora.
[10:03] <jarco> ikonia: and with arch
[10:04] <ItsMeLenny> MonkeyDust, (i dont know how you managed to change the toolbar), but screwed up would be going into the menus and trying to go into a menu and it dissapeares the first 3 times
[10:04] <ikonia> jarco: ok, so it's not really an ubuntu issue then
[10:04] <ikonia> it's just an incompatible video card
[10:04] <ItsMeLenny> making eveyrthing take 3 times as long, thats for classic
[10:04] <MonkeyDust> ItsMeLenny  classic works fine here
[10:04] <ItsMeLenny> for unity the whole new side sensitivity makes you have to sit there ramming the mouse into the side til it pops up
[10:04] <jarco> ikonia: no the problem is the video card support. The actueal problem for me is that I can't find a way to boot ubuntu in a way that the 3d acceleration is not needed
[10:04] <jarco> fedora did that by default
[10:05] <rodayo> the gnome-terminal background image option kinda got messed up on my laptop recently. I remember before you could have a solid background image for the term. Right now the transparency option controls both the solid color and the bg-image...so if I set the opacity to 0% the image is barely visible unless you place over a dark background app and if I set it to 100% it's just a solid color....is anyone else having this problem?
[10:05] <ikonia> jarco: as in boot the install or boot the installed system ?
[10:05] <MonkeyDust> ItsMeLenny  maybe you just have to get used to the new Unity
[10:05] <onoez_omg> i don't feel that "unity presense"
[10:05] <jarco> ikonia: I installed with the alternate image because the live one didnt work.
[10:05] <ItsMeLenny> MonkeyDust, it was still all glitchy and they uglied it up with shadows that didnt look right
[10:06] <ItsMeLenny> i'm just cracking the shits because they ruined something in which they were on a good track
[10:06] <ikonia> jarco: ok, so unity needs a 3d accelerated environment, so I'm not quite sure what your end goal is
[10:06] <ikonia> ItsMeLenny: drop the language
[10:06] <MonkeyDust> ItsMeLenny  there's MyUnity to modify Unity (i don't like/use it myself, tho)
[10:06] <ItsMeLenny> ikonia, the language? i can only speak english
[10:06] <ikonia> ItsMeLenny: the swearing
[10:07] <ItsMeLenny> i never swore..
[10:07] <jarco> ikonia: Well. I need to get the nvidia driver on there? Or use some other way to actually SEE anything
[10:07] <sk1special> try this jarco? sudo apt-add-repository ppa:ubuntu-x-swat/x-updates   sudo apt-get update  sudo apt-get install nvidia-current
[10:07] <ikonia> ItsMeLenny: please re-read what you said and try to control it
[10:07] <ItsMeLenny> dunno what you're on about boy
[10:07] <ikonia> jarco: what video card is it ?
[10:07] <jozefk> hello. what are the system requirements for 12.04 LTS, 64bit? Can I install it on 10GB ext4 partition or do you recommend more?
[10:07] <ikonia> ItsMeLenny: I'll send you a pm with the bad language in
[10:07] <jarco> sk1special: I would love to. But I cant get into a cli. And in resque mode I am unable to get dns working
[10:08] <maya> How can I make my unity tray appear sooner using my mouse cursor?
[10:08] <jarco> ikonia: Very unsure about that sorry. I know I should know that but I wilol not open my bosses laptop :)
[10:08] <ikonia> jarco: lspci
[10:08] <acicula> jozefk: it should fit, but its somewhat tight
[10:08] <jozefk> then 20GB?
[10:09] <acicula> jozefk: that would be better yes
[10:09] <jarco> ikonia: geforce 9200M g
[10:09] <ikonia> not familier with that one
[10:09] <ikonia> is it an optimus card ?
[10:09] <jarco> the nvidia drivers will wortk
[10:09] <ikonia> are you sure ?
[10:09] <jarco> i only need to actually get them on the system
[10:09] <cincinnatus> Does Canonical still operate at a loss?
[10:09] <cincinnatus> (I hope not)
[10:09] <ror> hopefully a built-in torrent version of the dist-upgrade will happen in the future, had to give up as downloading the package list data fell to 14.4kbp
[10:09] <ikonia> jarco: have you installed the nvidia package ?
[10:09] <jozefk> can I install LXDE on Ubuntu 12.04 LTS 64bit?
[10:09] <cincinnatus> oh wait... it's the support channel... sorry]
[10:10] <acicula> ror: what mirror are you using?
[10:10] <jarco> ikonia: Cant get dns to work in rescue mode :(
[10:10] <ikonia> jarco: how are you setting it ?
[10:10] <the-erm> jozefk: I don't see why not.
[10:10] <zsolt> hi there!i can't udenrstand if I use espeak --phonout=/path/file.txt the text file remains empty
[10:11] <jozefk> I guess with simple apt-get install lxde right?
[10:11] <the-erm> I think there is a 64bit version of lubuntu.  So lxde should work.
[10:11] <the-erm> yup.
[10:11] <jozefk> ok thank you. I will try that
[10:11] <Eastwood> What's up everyone
[10:12] <jarco> ikonia: I am trying to get it into /etc/resolv.conf (cant seem to write into that)
[10:12] <action09> hi, can someone help with these errors ata1.00: status: { DRDY ERR } .. etc  http://paste.ubuntu.com/949428/  I can't install 12.04 on a giada n20
[10:12] <action09> please
[10:12] <onoez_omg> is there something useful like `sysv-rc-conf` designed to help to rule init scripts? at some point i've met problems while using it
[10:13] <if124> hello all, would it cause problems if i switch distros while having the same account name and the same home partition?
[10:13] <ikonia> jarco: use sudo
[10:13] <jarco> ikonia: I did. The error i get is. can't open linked file for wrting
[10:13] <Eastwood> Jarco try this
[10:13] <Eastwood> echo "[some repository]" | sudo tee -a /etc/apt/sources.list
[10:13] <Eastwood> The tee command is called as the superuser via sudo and the -a argument tells tee to append to the file instead of overwriting it.
[10:13] <Eastwood> Your original command failed, as the IO redirection with >> will be done as the regular user, only your echo was executed with sudo.
[10:13] <Eastwood> Calling a sudo subshell like
[10:13] <FloodBot1> Eastwood: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[10:13] <Eastwood> sudo sh -c 'echo "[some repository]" >> /etc/apt/sources.list'
[10:13] <acicula> if124: its the user_id's that have to match, not the name. Your system should work just fine, but the installed applications may have issues with different data formats in your home directory
[10:14] <zvacet> jozefk: sudo apt-get install lubuntu-desktop
[10:14] <onoez_omg> jarco, just `echo "nameserver 8.8.8.8">/etc/resolv.conf`
[10:14] <Eastwood> sudo sh -c 'echo "[some repository]" >> /etc/apt/sources.list'
[10:14] <if124> ok acicula, thanks
[10:15] <the-erm> I think there's a prepend command to make it permanent.
[10:15] <cincinnatus> Is there away to prevent .xsession-errors from filling up the hard drive in Oneiric Ocelot?
[10:16] <jarco> onoez_omg: it sais: no such file or directry :s.
[10:16] <cincinnatus> * a way
[10:16] <onoez_omg> jarco, it shouldn't if u're doing it right
[10:16] <cincinnatus> Every now and then, .xsession-errors grows so fast it can consume my whole Linux partition in no time
[10:16] <jozefk> zvacet, is there any difference between that and if I just go for official lubuntu 12.04 LTS 64bit?
[10:16] <jarco> I am doing it right
[10:17] <jarco> onoez_omg: don't forget that I am in rescue mode. Perhaps that is causing this behaivior
[10:17] <onoez_omg> oh
[10:17] <nickkontos> hello, is there any way to fix alt+tab in 12.04 in gnome-session without compiz?
[10:18] <acicula> action09: is this an old system or old disk?
[10:18] <finnrobi> Hi. Is it possible to install packages to a partition on my harddrive that I can not boot from, using a livecd? Something like apt-get install foo --root=/media/unbootable/ ?
[10:18] <onoez_omg> jarco, can u show us `mount` output?
[10:19] <krababbel> jarco: just tried rescue mode, resolv.conf is there for me
[10:19] <onoez_omg> finnrobi, chroot is ur friend
[10:19] <jarco> krababbel: its there. I just cant write to it
[10:19] <eyuplu> turk varmi
[10:19] <hashbrowncipher> cincinnatus: Usually .xsession-errors gets big when the same error repeats over and over again.  Can you snip out the error and put in a pastebin for us to see?
[10:19] <jarco> onoez_omg: any rule you are looking for? Its a long output to type in :p
[10:20] <eyuplu> yokmu turk bitane surda
[10:20] <MonkeyDust> jarco  use pastebin for lon outputs
[10:21] <MonkeyDust> !tr| eyuplu
[10:21] <Duality> i don't know if i am at the right place to ask but is it possible to mask name.site.com to something like site.com ?
[10:21] <onoez_omg> jarco, i was thinking that root fs is mounted into a different place or mounted as read-only or smth like that, but i'm in doubt due to lack of experience of work in rescue mode hah
[10:21] <action09> acicula no it's a brand new mini pc (Giada n20) , windoz installed flawlessly so it's not a hard drive pb.
[10:21] <jarco> MonkeyDust: use pastebin from rescue mode while trying to fix dns? ...
[10:21] <bashsho> any suggest for html design channel?
[10:21] <zvacet> jozefk: I don't think so,because lubuntu-desktop is meta package witch will pull other packages you can also read http://www.psychocats.net/ubuntu/purelxde
[10:21] <the-erm> Whoever had the resolv.conf issue in /etc/dhcp3/dhclient.conf has a line:"prepend domain-name-servers 8.8.8.8, 8.8.4.4;"  will make resolv.conf changes permanent.
[10:22] <MonkeyDust> jarco  i missed that part
[10:22] <acicula> action09: the error usually means a hardware error. did you move the case in between installs by any chance?
[10:22] <jarco> onoez_omg: I mounted /dev/sda1 in rescue mode. Should i try to others?
[10:23] <MonkeyDust> jarco  yes, see if the program pastebinit is available, install and type [your command]| pastebinit, then paste the url here
[10:24] <jarco> MonkeyDust: I cannot run APT I cannot use dns. ...
[10:24] <Duality> if i ever made a pc i'd make it linux compatible :)
[10:24] <MonkeyDust> Duality  works fine here, what's wrong?
[10:25] <jarco> isnt there just a way to install ubuntu in a vesa mode or something. I am sure it used to be in the distro in the past
[10:26] <ror> test?
[10:26] <acid_mark> hi ......how to install wireless drivers for bcm4312 ....i m currently using proprietary drivers
[10:26] <ror> Can anyone read this? I seem to keep disconnecting
[10:26] <MonkeyDust> !bcm| acid_mark start here
[10:27] <Starminn> Is there a way to reinstall all base fonts?
[10:28] <taxman> i use my own font collection instead of ubuntu's
[10:28] <taxman> ubuntu fonts are ugly
[10:28] <the-erm> Personally I like FreeSans
[10:28] <the-erm> But "ubuntu" font isn't my favorite.
[10:28] <Duality> MonkeyDust, i don't get it i just said if i'd ever make a pc myself i will make it asmuch  linux as possible :)
[10:28] <acid_mark> ubottu : bcm4312 is n't listed there
[10:29] <ogra_> taxman, and this is relevant for the ubuntu support channel because ?
[10:29] <DrDittersdorf> Fonts - just copy font folder from windows or any other os to ~/.fonts folder
[10:29] <MonkeyDust> Duality  maybe you want to work at ZaReason, then, they do just that
[10:29] <action09> acicula no no i suppose a kernel parameter to add to boot flawlessly , PIO mode , sata related.. :(
[10:29] <taxman> you need some sharp fonts as you can see on mobile devices
[10:29] <Duality> :)
[10:30] <Starminn> Is there a way to reinstall all base fonts that come with Ubuntu? (I've managed to...make most of my fonts unusable. :) )
[10:30] <domedagen> Something has happened with my nvidia drivers. They are installed yet they're not according to nvidia-settings. I have Additional Drivers(jockey-gtk) installed
[10:30] <domedagen> What can I do?
[10:31] <domedagen> Sorry they are not activated anymore
[10:31] <domedagen> Ill try to activate them again
[10:32] <AndyUbuntu> morning everyone
[10:32] <domedagen> Good afternoon
[10:32] <DrDittersdorf> Is there a way to imigrate shotwell DB from one user to another?
[10:32] <sk1special> @domedagen.make sure you restart too .usually at least half fixes my nvidia problems
[10:33] <AndyUbuntu> im updating to 12.04 from the repo and it seems exceedingly slow. Will this be due to many people updating
[10:33] <DrDittersdorf> Noon
[10:33] <AndyUbuntu> ?
[10:33] <hashbrowncipher> AndyUbuntu: yes.  It's going to take a while to die down
[10:33] <ogra_> AndyUbuntu, yes
[10:34] <ant_> Odd - I can't upgrade to precise: $ lsb_release -c
[10:34] <ant_> Codename:       lucid
[10:34] <ant_> $ do-release-upgrade
[10:34] <ant_> Checking for a new ubuntu release    No new release found
[10:34] <domedagen> sk1special: I may seem like a total retard not figuring this out directly but to my defence they have worked well until yesterday
[10:34] <AndyUbuntu> currently downloading at 15kbs at the most and often goes down to 3000 B/s
[10:34] <ogra_> AndyUbuntu, you could try another mirror
[10:34] <AndyUbuntu> ok thanks
[10:34] <domedagen> sk1special: But now I have to restart. Bye!
[10:34] <MonkeyDust> !paste| AndyUbuntu
[10:34] <MonkeyDust> !paste| ant_ (wrong nick, sorry)
[10:35] <AndyUbuntu> orga_ thank will be a great idea thanks
[10:35] <ant_> MonkeyDust, sure - didn't think 4 lines was that bad
[10:35] <zvacet> ant_: in synaptic check that you can upgrade from lts to lts not normal releases and of course before upgrade sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get upgrade
[10:36] <AndyUbuntu> think is i wait on this server the next release would be ready to download  :p
[10:37] <DrDittersdorf> What to choose- 32 or 64?
[10:37] <cYmen> haha..I'm currently upgrading to 12.04 and there is a window prompting me to press enter in the command line output of the upgrade window but I can't seem to actually press anything...what do I do? :D
[10:37] <bobo123> the gnome panels show on fullscreen on ubuntu 12.04, any sollution?
[10:38] <MonkeyDust> DrDittersdorf  if your hardware is 64bit capable, you can use 64bit
[10:38] <cYmen> oh..nvm I can send input...must have misclicked earlier
[10:38] <robgraves> do you have a 32 or 64 bit processor? also 4gb of ram or more you want 64 bit
[10:38] <zvacet> DrDittersdorf: depends of your comp and processor
[10:38] <hroi> how can I find out which version of libfreetype I have under /usr/lib?
[10:38] <DrDittersdorf> I think the 64bit is just great and worka fine
[10:38] <hulaka> I try to install newest Xubuntu. I made install USB with USB Universal Installer. I rebooted, went to Boot Menu when I got options : USB - FDD, USB - HDD, USB - Floppy, USB - CD-Rom. I tried each one - and nothing happens, it doesn't boot from USB :/ What to do
[10:39] <the-erm> Does anyone know if ubuntu-server has been updated as well?  I've been waiting for my LTS server to say "hey new release" alas ... nothing.
[10:39] <sk1special> so i guess lame question. if i have more than 4gbs of ram. will it tell me that i do on a 32 bit system. or will it only be capable of showing 4gb and i have to look at the ram itself to know
[10:39] <wer0ckz> ubuntu 12 does really drains laptop's baterry
[10:39] <wer0ckz> why is that
[10:39] <DrDittersdorf> I have it all. Im asking in general
[10:39] <wer0ckz>  got ubuntu 12
[10:39] <zvacet> the-erm: is your server up-to-date
[10:39] <Anomie21> Is there a way to update to 12.04 from 11.10 without downloading/creating a cd and all that nonsense?
[10:40] <acicula> action09: pio mode? you should not need that if you are using sata
[10:40] <robgraves> im not sure if it doesnt recognize beyond 4gb of ram or if it just uses up to 4 gb of ram on 32 bit
[10:40] <MonkeyDust> Anomie21  in a terminal, type sudo do-release-update
[10:40] <sk1special>  @ anomie21    sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get upgrade
[10:40] <r4y> Any graphics card related channels?
[10:40] <zvacet> Anomie21: from synaptic or update manager
[10:40] <ant_> robgraves, you can use more than 4GB or ram on 32bit if a PAE kernel is installed
[10:40] <the-erm> zvacet: sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get upgrade # doesn't install anything
[10:40] <sk1special> (thats what the site says anyway)
[10:40] <acicula> robgraves: your system can use more then 4GB of ram if its 32bit, the 4GB limit is specific to processes themselves
[10:41] <robgraves> yeah thats true ant_, i forgot
[10:41] <MonkeyDust> Anomie21 correction:  in a terminal, type sudo do-release-upgrade
[10:41] <DrDittersdorf> I had a machine with 8gb and 32bit and it qorked great
[10:41] <Anomie21> Thanks
[10:41] <ant_> robgraves, as acicula says, some hardware can't do that though
[10:41] <Starminn> Is there a way to reinstall all base fonts that come with Ubuntu? (I've managed to...make most of my fonts unusable. :) )
[10:41] <robgraves> i have 64 bit so its irrelevant
[10:41] <Jen> How did you manage that, Starminn ?
[10:41] <sk1special> so will it recognize it then?
[10:42] <DrDittersdorf> The main reason for 64 is when one need to.render a video
[10:42] <Starminn> Jen: I copied my /usr/share/fonts folder from Ubuntu 11.10, and Merged it with Ubuntu 12.04. Apparently that's a no-no.
[10:42] <Domedagen> I'm back from activating the nvidia drivers. Now the system is all slow and laggy again. Can I disable the drivers from the terminal?
[10:42] <zvacet> the-erm: good then your system is updated but I don't know why you don't get message about new release
[10:42] <the-erm> zvacet: maybe I need to reboot that machine, and it'll install a new kernal or something.
[10:43] <DrDittersdorf> Starminn just copy it to .fonts
[10:43] <alusion> Ubuntu 12.04 LTS is out??
[10:43] <sk1special> @ domedagen.. i know you can disable them from additional drivers. just click deactivate //restart
[10:43] <alusion> Is it stable enough to upgrade?  O_O
[10:43] <the-erm> alusion: yes LTS is out.
[10:44] <cute_bettong> has anyone here gotten 12.04 to run right on a samsung chronos series 7?  with ATI switchible graphics?
[10:44] <robgraves> yes LTS is kickin
[10:44] <alusion> Ahahah i love that
[10:44] <acicula> !hybrid
[10:44] <Domedagen> sk1special: Will try. This will take a couple of minutes though. Did you hear about Valve btw?
[10:44] <Timmy> is there any socks to http application?
[10:45] <morning> ikonia: I´m up and running again. Many thanks for your help!
[10:45] <mraxilus> I upgraded to 12.04 now all of the fonts in my application windows are white so I can't even read anything... any help?
[10:45] <action09> acicula hmm ok i'm trying to install specifying acpi=off noapic and such thing like that. maybe try to disable some parameters in bios too...
[10:45] <zvacet> the-erm:  you can try that I saw now server is released too
[10:45] <m_kobernyk> hi all! I try to install ubuntu 12.04 desktop from live-CD, and after click on "Try without insalling" or "Install now" my display didn't answer to me. I work on Acer 5336. What can cause it?
[10:46] <sk1special> Valve?
[10:47] <decko> Guys, i've finished my precise instalation and i'm trying to run gnome3 without success
[10:47] <zvacet> the-erm: did you tried sudo aptitude install update-manager-core  sudo do-release-upgrade
[10:47] <n1> just a short qauestion
[10:47] <decko> It even apear on lightdm session menu
[10:48] <the-erm> zvacet: I'm trying it now.
[10:48] <zvacet> decko:  try with sudo apt-get install gnome-shell
[10:48] <r4y> Ya, Valve?, LOL, what the
[10:48] <decko> zvacet already did a aptitude reinstall gnome-session
[10:49] <uBUxUBu> hmm compiz will not open in 12,04 64 bit,,,hmmm
[10:49] <sk1special> saw someone it wasnt supposed to open since 11.10 or 10.11 or something?
[10:49] <zvacet> decko:  I think you need gnome-shell package to run gnome3 naybe someone knows better
[10:49] <sk1special> saw somewhere someone said*
[10:50] <decko> zvacet: Sorry man, you're right
[10:50] <uBUxUBu> it says its installed but i cannot access it
[10:50] <zvacet> decko: np  :)
[10:50] <decko> =]
[10:50] <sk1special> yeah i was trying to start a cube and layer the matrix gl screensaver on it as a desktop..
[10:50] <decko> thnk guys!
[10:50] <sk1special> and something in my searches said they disabled it i believe
[10:51] <uBUxUBu> wonder if it opens in 32bit
[10:52] <n1> in 11.10 version in "Ubuntu software center", where the packages to download aree package mean_ listed, what does the number in the bracket near th
[10:52] <n1> ...near the package mean_
[10:52] <sk1special> idk. messing with it ( although i got it to work ) made my desktop fallinto a black hole
[10:52] <n1> pardon...this mouse
[10:52] <uBUxUBu> it means the amoount of ppl who rated it
[10:53] <n1> ah, okay
[10:53] <uBUxUBu> or wrote a review about it
[10:53] <n1> thx a lot uBUxUBu
[10:53] <uBUxUBu> np
[10:53] <lotuspsychje> anyone got activity-log-manager crashing on precise?
[10:54] <uBUxUBu> when they say "32 bit recommended"...they mean it
[10:54] <uBUxUBu> im finding out
[10:59] <WinCamXP-Phone> Hello, I am having serious issues with my 11.10 desktop computer. It started where when I tried to edit files, it did not give me permission to do so. I had my friend SSH into the machine and give me admin rights to my home folder, which worked. However, when I tried to extract something from a zip file, I was denied and the cursor got stuck as the hand and I could not click anything. After sending the reboot command over SSH, 
[11:00] <qEssence> hello.
[11:01] <WinCamXP-Phone> hello qEssence, I have a problem.
[11:01] <WinCamXP-Phone> i hope copy-pasting messages is okay if the person just joined
[11:01] <the-erm> found it : sudo do-release-upgrade -d I needed to add -d
[11:02] <WinCamXP-Phone> (WinCamXP-Phone) Hello, I am having serious issues with my 11.10 desktop computer. It started where when I tried to edit files, it did not give me permission to do so. I had my friend SSH into the machine and give me admin rights to my home folder, which worked. However, when I tried to extract something from a zip file, I was denied and the cursor got stuck as the hand and I could not click anything. After sending the reboot c
[11:03] <qEssence> WinCamXP-Phone:  Have you tryed Chown command?
[11:03] <WinCamXP-Phone> Did you read the whole thing?
[11:03] <ogra_> the-erm, yes, until 12.04.1 is released automatic upgrades are disabled for LTS to LTS
[11:03] <ogra_> (it is always like that)
[11:04] <qEssence> As far i could, text was cutted.
[11:04] <WinCamXP-Phone> agh
[11:04] <WinCamXP-Phone> o. I had my friend SSH into the machine and give me admin rights to my home folder, which worked. However, when I tried to extract something from a zip file, I was denied and the cursor got stuck as the hand and I could not click anything. After sending the reboot command over SSH, it booted to a black screen. Help!
[11:05] <WinCamXP-Phone> text get cut any more?
[11:05] <qEssence> WinCamXP-Phone: Nope.
[11:06] <Gotestra> k
[11:06] <WinCamXP-Phone> so, wth is going on?
[11:06] <Gotestra> Ubuntu updated properly.
[11:06] <qEssence> WinCamXP-Phone: My appologies, i cannot help you with that.
[11:06] <munim> has anyone here figured out how to get subversion 1.7.2 on ubuntu 12.04?
[11:06] <WinCamXP-Phone> now it's just a black screen ;.;
[11:06] <munim> the PPAs are all for older versions of ubuntu
[11:06] <Anomie21> 'Installing the upgrade can take several hours' ?
[11:06] <qEssence> WinCamXP-Phone: are you over SSH or in front of the terminal_
[11:06] <Anomie21> Is that a realistic time?
[11:07] <Anomie21> Installing from CD only took about 20min
[11:07] <MonkeyDust>  Anomie21 yes, about 90 minutes her
[11:07] <MonkeyDust> here*
[11:07] <pndemc_> Anomie21, yes
[11:07] <WinCamXP-Phone> the pc's off and i can't turn it on right now
[11:07] <zvacet> Anomie21: servers are overloaded I think  :)
[11:07] <munim> anyone? subversion 1.7+ on ubuntu 12.04?
[11:07] <ogra_> Anomie21, depends on your internet connection and how many millions of people hit the archive server
[11:07] <qEssence> WinCamXP-Phone:  No messages at all are being shown?
[11:07] <Anomie21> zvacet: Why would that affect installation time?
[11:07] <WinCamXP-Phone> just a black screen
[11:07] <Guest82066> god rest ye merry gentlefolk
[11:08] <pndemc_> when I downloaded yesterday it took 3 hours to download
[11:08] <Anomie21> No I mean after it's downloaded, presumably you can still use your PC whilst it's downloading?
[11:08] <pndemc_> and installing, yes
[11:08] <zvacet> Anomie21: I didn't see you are talking of installation sorry I don't know why
[11:08] <qEssence> WinCamXP-Phone:  Have you tryed the Control +F1/12 functions?
[11:08] <MonkeyDust> Anomie21  yes, it's how i did it
[11:08] <WinCamXP-Phone> no...what would that do if it worked?
[11:09] <curiousx> aloha all
[11:09] <qEssence> WinCamXP-Phone: It can be used to open a Terminal, outside the x enviorment.
[11:09] <WinCamXP-Phone> ah
[11:10] <newwbi> hello,
[11:10] <WinCamXP-Phone> well, i can't get to themachine until roughly 9hrs from now
[11:10] <Flywater> linux kernel of ubuntu 12.04 update
[11:11] <Flywater> from 3.2.0-23 to 3.2.0-24
[11:11] <Anomie21> So how long will my comp be out of service? (it's print day here but I'm excited to try the new release :P)
[11:11] <ajf> do I install FLRX, FGLRX post-release updates, or both?
[11:11] <newwbi> i just upgraded from 10.04 to the 12.04, and i can't find the option to change the fonts, where can i find this?
[11:11] <ogra_> newwbi, fontsize you mean ?
[11:11] <Flywater> you can't find it
[11:12] <ogra_> i think gnome moved that into the accessibility panel
[11:12] <newwbi> ogra_:  yes,
[11:12] <zvacet> munim: see https://launchpad.net/~dominik-stadler/+archive/subversion-1.7
[11:12] <ajf> anyone know?
[11:12] <ajf> do I install FGLRX then updates? or just updates?
[11:12] <ajf> it's confusing
[11:13] <curiousx> newwbi: maybe click on top right botton and then "System Setting" finaly "Fonts"
[11:13] <newwbi> i can't? seriously?
[11:13] <silv3r_m00n> what version of php is there in ubuntu 12.04 ?
[11:13] <Flywater> ajf : you can download it from AMD or Nvida and install it yourself
[11:13] <iceroot> !info php5
[11:14] <wawrek> Hi, I cannot install pygraphviz (a python graphviz library) on ubuntu. the error log is here: http://paste.ubuntu.com/949512/
[11:14] <silv3r_m00n> ok
[11:14] <ogra_> newwbi, as i said, go to the accessibility settings
[11:14] <ajf> Flywater: SYeah but from the restricted drivers box, which should I do?
[11:14] <ajf> *what
[11:14] <newwbi> ogra_: there are only the option for small, normal, large, over there, i wanted to change the font face on the terminal as well,
[11:15] <ogra_> newwbi, that you do in the terminal settings
[11:15] <newwbi> ogra_: so, there is no longer any easy way to change the system fonts? or at least any config file that i can edit?
[11:16] <murlidhar> am not able to create a usb live cd from usb-imagewriter .... it says done but am not able to boot it using usb disk.
[11:16] <murlidhar> can anyone help me
[11:16] <h31> Hi all. How to make Win key work as a Super key in 12.04?
[11:16] <Flywater> ajf : you can choose one
[11:16] <ajf> ok
[11:16] <ajf> brb :)
[11:16] <ogra_> newwbi, well, gnome decided to drop it all ... you can probably change it by installing dconf-tools and using dconf-editor somehow
[11:16] <newwbi> i have been putting off updating coz of the bad things i heard about unity, but i didn't think that i can't even change the font anymore... -_-
[11:16] <Flywater> i download from AMD and install it in termminal
[11:17] <ogra_> that has nothing to do with unity
[11:17] <h31> murlidhar: Do you changed a "Boot device" option in BIOS?
[11:17] <Flywater> ajf : i download from AMD and install it in termminal
[11:17] <newwbi> ogra_: well, i think i get it, i thought they moved it somewhere i can't find, but if they actually removed the option, then i think i can just look around for more information, thanks anyway,
[11:17] <murlidhar> h31: yes . usb is first priority device.. i have installed ubuntu using the same way
[11:17] <the-erm> newwbi: I think myunity let's you change the font, but I don't know for sure, because I'm running xfce4 atm.
[11:17] <|NSP|> Hey, does anyone have a problem with hibernate in 11 m?
[11:18] <h31> murlidhar: try another tool. For example unetbootin or dd.
[11:18] <Shayan> http://www.ptcl.com.pk/uploads/linux%20SW.zip
[11:18] <murlidhar> h31: trying to boot finnix from my usb device.
[11:18] <ogra_> newwbi, unity just uses gnome3 in the backend for most things, its not unitys fault if the gnome devs drop options
[11:18] <Shayan> i need to install this how do i do it
[11:18] <Shayan> http://www.ptcl.com.pk/uploads/linux%20SW.zip
[11:18] <Shayan> and i am a xubuntu user
[11:18] <curiousx> meanwhile curiousx: http://i.imgur.com/iHwYH.png
[11:19] <newwbi> ogra_: i see, thanks, maybe i will look into some other DE,
[11:19] <the-erm> I think there is an "advanced settings" package for gnome 3.
[11:19] <connelly> hi so I upgraded to 12.04 last night and now after a reboot a lot of my GUI widgets look old (Chrome, some python apps) I've been googling and haven't found anything - any suggestions?
[11:19] <zvacet> murlidhar: you can try http://liveusb.info/dotclear/
[11:20] <zvacet> murlidhar:  it is good tool
[11:20] <murlidhar> zvacet: ok. thanks . i will  try it.
[11:20] <Flywater> you can install ubuntu-tweak
[11:20] <Pitel> can I somehow get rid of chrome close/minimiza buttons in top left corner?
[11:20] <MonkeyDust> Pitel  uninstall globalmenu
[11:20] <Flywater> no
[11:21] <Flywater> set skin
[11:21] <Shayan> please help me i can't use the internet without it(i am currently using windows)
[11:21] <Shayan> http://www.ptcl.com.pk/uploads/linux%20SW.zip
[11:21] <zvacet> murlidhar:  read http://www.pendrivelinux.com/multiboot-create-a-multiboot-usb-from-linux/
[11:22] <sary> the-erm: Yes , it's called " gnome-tweak-tool"  .
[11:22] <Flywater> firefox of ubuntu update
[11:22] <fishcooker>  i've ubuntu-server LL box running java from starting point before it shutdown/restart
[11:22] <Flywater> sary : do you use Gnome3?
[11:22] <fishcooker> it always running java apps
[11:22] <fishcooker> how can i monitoring the java apps one?
[11:22] <sary> Flywater: Yes.
[11:23] <fishcooker> is there any forum/channel for this
[11:23] <Flywater> ok,gnome-tweak is in software center
[11:23] <delfick> Hi, I installed 12.04 fresh on my computer, and now my monitors keep turning off after a few minutes....
[11:23] <sonne> greetings!
[11:24] <sonne> anyone knows where i can find informations on what exactly "ISV" is? the home page doesn't seem to be much verbose about it
[11:24] <murlidhar> zvacet: thanks :)
[11:24] <Flywater> sonne : google it
[11:24] <jiltdil> going to install 12.04
[11:24] <zvacet> murlidhar: yw  :)
[11:25] <ogra_> sonne, http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Independent_software_vendor
[11:25] <sonne> ogra_, so that's what they mean with it
[11:25] <sonne> cheers
[11:25] <erezson> Hi, just upgraded my ubuntu to 12.04 and I would like to remove completely  KDE. I have double system monitor etc. Can someone may help me please?
[11:26] <minimec> delfick: you mean they become unusable, or they just go into 'power save' mode?
[11:26] <delfick> minimec: they become unusable. Lights on them go to standby mode. mouse and keyboard don't put them back on again
[11:26] <ryannathans> 12.04 fucked my whole system over. I need to get dnsmasq working because 12.04 killed it. I read that network manager was supposed to be causing problems but i'm on ubuntu-server and there's no network manager, yet dnsmasq is still borked.
[11:27] <Tm_T> ryannathans: please watch your language
[11:27] <sk1special> delfick @ you try just turning the lock off under system settings . brightness and lock?
[11:27] <minimec> delfick: Still. Could you try to disable all power save stuff in the 'System Settings' 'Power'?
[11:27] <delfick> mmkay, I'll try that
[11:28] <zvacet> erezson: do you use kubuntu and want to switch to ubuntu
[11:28] <tomreyn> hi, my dist-upgrade from oneiric to precise failed, X crashed during the package upgrade phase (i.e. after downloading all the upgraded packages). i'm now on a terminal, how can i proceed witht he upgrade?
[11:29] <krababbel> Is there no shut down button in gnome shell? I have to log out to shut down?
[11:29] <Xunil> you can do sudo shutdown -h now in gnome-terminal (that's how I often do that if "normal" shutdown doesn't work)
[11:30] <ryannathans> dnsmasq is running with the SAME config BEFORE 12.04. It will not return DNS queries. ubuntu-server.
[11:30] <zvacet> tomreyn:  try with sudo dpkg --configure -a  sudo apt-get -f install
[11:30] <erezson> @zvacel - I have the kde plasma workspace in the login window. then I choose gnome classic but I see many apps doubled. like system monitor etc
[11:30] <Xunil> and try pressing CTRL or ALT or SHIFT - I think then the menu items might change, krababbel
[11:30] <ogra_> ryannathans, try #ubuntu-server perhaps ?
[11:30] <jiltdil> i nunetbootin what to choose for ubuntu 12.04 to make it live on distribution section  there is no option for 12.04
[11:30] <ryannathans> ogra_: thankyou
[11:30] <krababbel> Xunil, alt did it, thanks
[11:31] <tomreyn> zvacet: i remember from last time this happened i should also do something along the lines of: sudo do-release-upgrade, possibly passing additional options?
[11:31] <jiltdil> There only option till 11.04 to mak elive
[11:31] <sk1special> jilt are you on windows now?
[11:31] <MonkeyDust> jiltdil  do you have the 12.04 iso?
[11:31] <jiltdil> MonkeyDust, Yes
[11:32] <Chuzzi> I was on 11.10 and upgraded to 12.04, now my dnsmasq isn't forwarding DNS anymore. DHCP appears to be working though.
[11:32] <zvacet> erezson: see if http://www.psychocats.net/ubuntu/puregnome help
[11:32] <MonkeyDust> jiltdil  are you unable to select the iso in unetbootin?
[11:32] <tomreyn> zvacet: i /think/ this step is after the dpkg --configure -a && sudo apt-get -f install && sudo apt-get dist-upgrade
[11:32] <curiousx> tomreyn: are you using ATI's priopretary drivers?
[11:32] <smallfoot-> thanks ubuntu for 12.04 release, its awesome!!!
[11:32] <smallfoot-> why do all windows open in the top-left corner now?
[11:32] <connelly> any idea why all (except for Ubuntu applications) widgets look horrible after an upgrade?
[11:32] <tomreyn> curiousx: no, why are you asking?
[11:32] <jiltdil> MonkeyDust,  no in distrbution  the option for making 12.04 is not showing only ther is available till 11.04
[11:33] <rfictus> any quick terminal code to find out gnoke-settings-daemon version number ??
[11:33] <rfictus> gnoke=gnome
[11:33] <JonathanEllis> I am trying to install Ubuntu 12.04 on a Dell Latitude C61 laptop with 1GB RAM and 60GB hard disk. Processor is a 32 bit intel 586 compatible I believe running at between 1 and 1.5 GHz. After trying to install from the live CD (picking the "Install option") the installer stopped with this message "Installer failed. The installer encountered an unrecoverable error. A desktop session will  now be run so that you may investigate the pro
[11:33] <erezson> zvacel: I tried that but I still see many KDE apps
[11:33] <curiousx> becouse thats is one of the reason to broke X after upgrading
[11:33] <raven> how to do ocr from webcam images?
[11:33] <MonkeyDust> jiltdil  yes, the distro may be too recent, try downloading the iso, it's faster and easier
[11:33] <zvacet> tomreyn: try it but first you have to run sudo dpkg --configure -a && sudo apt-get -f install because you downloaded and start to install and something is broken now
[11:34] <jiltdil> MonkeyDust, Which option to choose , should i choose 11.04 for 12.04 to mak elive
[11:34] <smallfoot-> jiltdil, you cant upgrade from 10.04 or 10.10 to 12.04 directly, i tihnk you must do first to 11.04 then 12.04
[11:34] <ryannathans> ubuntu-server isn't talking to me.
[11:34] <metallico> guys, do you know how to reset the settings of gphpedit?
[11:34] <tomreyn> curiousx: oh okay, not in my case, here the issue was X crashing after i responded to an on-screen prompt by monkeysphere-validation-agent
[11:34] <ryannathans> metallico: dpkg-reconfigure <name>
[11:34] <tomreyn> zvacet: i understand. thanks.
[11:34] <connelly> okay so it looks like the issue is with GTK+ applications - all the widgets suddenly look old and boxy - any ideas?
[11:34] <ogra_> ryannathans, patience, the devs in there are exhausted and might get up late today
[11:34] <ogra_> ;)
[11:34] <MonkeyDust> jiltdil  not sure what you mean, download the 12.04 iso and use that to create the live usb stick
[11:35] <Morph> i love ubuntu
[11:35] <delfick> minimec: sk1special: restarted and disabled those settings. Monitors still turn themselves off
[11:35] <rfictus> any quick terminal code to find out my gnome-settings-daemon version number ??
[11:35] <metallico> ryannathans, didnt work
[11:35] <ogra_> after all there was a release yesterday
[11:35] <ryannathans> metallico: did you run as sudo and put the name of application in <name>
[11:35] <metallico> yes
[11:35] <ThePendulum> Could I set-up Ubuntu so I receive mail notifications, yet use the online Gmail interface to read them (and the notification panel directing me there, and keeping Thunderbird basically closed)?
[11:35] <jiltdil> MonkeyDust,  i want to know how to make it live , what to select in distribution section in unetbootin
[11:35] <ryannathans> ogra_: Sigh. I have no internet on this network till then.
[11:35] <ThePendulum> Basically, I just need a decent application that just shows e-mail notifications in Ubuntu
[11:35] <MonkeyDust> jiltdil  the iso *is* live, has nothing to do with unetbootin
[11:36] <sk1special> are you using nvidia? im having all kindve issues with my dual monitors.. id check in the control panel for it if you are and see what you can see
[11:36] <curiousx> sorry im not able to help ya =(
[11:36] <raven> how to do ocr from webcam images?
[11:36] <auronandace> is there a specific command to refresh the icons on the unity bar? (12.04)
[11:36] <jiltdil> MonkeyDust, ok  so direct putting it into pendrive  boots?
[11:36] <ThePendulum> sk1special: What issues do you have? I have succesfully set-up dual screens in Ubuntu so far
[11:36] <MonkeyDust> jiltdil  yes, by using unetbootin
[11:37] <the-erm> grandr & xrandr are good programs for setting up dual screens.
[11:37] <minimec> delfick: That is quiet strange. Before they turn off, do you have any problems with graphical output. Is the quality ok. I guess you have a dual screen setup. Would the same problem appear with one monitor plugged only?
[11:37] <sk1special> ah. atm with my current set up. they both work fine. but i can Not drag and drop windows between desktops and all my window menus look like theyre from win 98
[11:37] <zvacet> tomreyn:  ok then
[11:37] <jiltdil> MonkeyDust, Oh man from that time i am asking this to you , please see the unetbootin, in distruibution section i choosed ubuntu and then  on right side what to choose as there is no opption for 12.04 only max 11.04
[11:38] <tomreyn> rfictus: dpkg-query -W -f '${Version}\n' gnome-settings-daemon
[11:38] <delfick> minimec: no graphical problems, three monitors. I'm installing fglrx now. Hopefully that helps
[11:38] <sk1special> depnding on how i set them up. that will happen ..or  i can fix the menu look..but then only one monitor cuts on..or i can have one monitor on and one as a solid grey screen
[11:38] <ThePendulum> sk1special: Can you move your cursor to the 2nd screen?
[11:38] <sk1special> yeah the second screen works fine..
[11:38] <MonkeyDust> jiltdil  you're looking in the wrong place, below, you can select an iso
[11:38] <sk1special> and 3d is working fine..
[11:38] <jiltdil> MonkeyDust,  thanks
[11:39] <minimec> delfick: That might help. You will have to use the ATI/AMD control software to do the monitor setup.
[11:39] <MonkeyDust> jiltdil  an iso you downloaded prior to opening unetbootin
[11:39] <sk1special> i just cant drag and drop between workstations. sorrry had to remeber what they were called here
[11:39] <ThePendulum> sk1special: I usually use xrandr to position the display outputs correctly
[11:39] <n1> hi again. using ubuntu in vmware and have WICD network manager, but doesn-t list available networks near me_
[11:39] <metallico> do you know what is the default installation dir for phpedit?
[11:39] <n1> is it because of vmware
[11:39] <sk1special> i get a error message saying RANDR missing on display 0
[11:39] <sk1special> when i do things in the terminal
[11:39] <drvanon_> When i lock my screen and start it up again it opens the external sdcard, how can i stop that? it makes the startup slower
[11:40] <rfictus> thanks tomreyn!
[11:40] <ThePendulum> sk1special: And you typed 'xrandr', correct? not 'randr'?
[11:40] <auronandace> is there a specific command to refresh the icons on the unity bar? (12.04)
[11:40] <sk1special> i havent typed anything lol it just pops up when i open windows. exactly what should i type?
[11:41] <the-erm> drvanon_: sounds like you have your bios set to boot from the sd card, then the hd.
[11:41] <zoite> I'm having an issue with installing 12.04. On bootup I get 'unknown keyword in configuration file'
[11:41] <drvanon_> the-erm, boot in starting up my pc?
[11:41] <ThePendulum> sk1special: With dual screens, I type something like "xrandr --output DFP3 --left-of DFP4", but you have to replace DFP# with your monitor names
[11:42] <ThePendulum> sk1special: And for three screens, you probably have to do that command twice, replace the first monitor with the second one, and the second monitor with the  third one
[11:42] <sk1special> the positoning is fine tho.. i can use them..and i can drag and drop from left screen to right. i just cant drag and drop between individual workstations
[11:42] <pz> HEY GHOST
[11:42] <pz> MY UBUNUTU GOES STRIAGHT TO BOOT UP
[11:42] <the-erm> drvanon_: yup. If you hibernate, you're actually shutting down your machine, and telling it to load from your swap.
[11:42] <pz> cans omeone ohelp
[11:42] <pz> it wont boot up at all
[11:43] <drvanon_> the-erm, how can i stop that?
[11:43] <sk1special> i have two. ones 1440x900 75mhz smaller one is 1024x720 60mhz
[11:43] <pz> I SWEAR TO GOD IT DOES
[11:43] <pz> it wont even boot up
[11:43] <JonathanEllis> Ubuntu 12.04 installer hangs in the live session after copying some files but not all (for example I am missing initrd.img and vmlinuz
[11:44] <the-erm> drvanon_: when you boot up your machine you'll see a message "press f2" is mine.  Then you can adjust the boot order.  Put your hardrive at the top of the list and you should be fine.
[11:44] <smallfoot-> sk1special, you know monitor refresh rate is measured in Hz not MHz?
[11:45] <ThePendulum> smallfoot-: Perhaps sk1special has rather impressive monitors
[11:45] <ubuntu__> Hello
[11:45] <ubuntu__> error: permission denied on key 'net.ipv6.route.flush
[11:45] <ubuntu__> cat: /proc/sys/net/ipv6/route/flush: Permission denied
[11:45] <ubuntu__> How to unblock? What's the problem?
[11:45] <smallfoot-> ThePendulum, yeah, i'd be happy if i had a monitor of just 1 MHz
[11:45] <drvanon_> the-erm, i am doing a dual boot with windows
[11:45] <zoite> I'm having an issue with installing 12.04. On bootup I get 'unknown keyword in configuration file' then it drops to a boot prompt and can't find any kernels
[11:45] <ThePendulum> sk1special: I can't drag windows between workspaces either, I don't think it's a multiscreen issue
[11:45] <sk1special> @thependulum.  sorry i was just trying to remember what it said from a couple hours ago lol. when i disable xinerama tho the menu borders go back to the modern look. but it wont save when i try to
[11:46] <the-erm> ok
[11:46] <sk1special> i can do it with the default drivers tho. but the default drivers dont support 3d
[11:46] <ditban> Hello
[11:46] <ditban> error: permission denied on key 'net.ipv6.route.flush
[11:46] <ditban> cat: /proc/sys/net/ipv6/route/flush: Permission denied
[11:46] <ditban> How to unblock? What's the problem?
[11:46] <ThePendulum> Could anyone give me a hand on giving the Ubuntu splash screen the correct resolution?
[11:47] <ikonia> ditban: please don't spam the same question
[11:47] <ThePendulum> Can I only set 4:3 resolutions?
[11:47] <ThePendulum> ditban: Use sudo?
[11:47] <ditban> yes
[11:47] <sk1special> like i hit the save to x config file..and it acts like it saves. but it doesnt actually. do you know how  i can make that stick?
[11:48] <MonkeyDust> !paste| ditban
[11:48] <auronandace> is there a specific command to refresh the icons on the unity bar? (12.04)
[11:49] <MonkeyDust> auronandace  killall gnome-panel ?
[11:49] <kelvinella> hihi
[11:49] <ryannathans> how does one stop the default dnsmasq in 12.04 if nm isn't installed?
[11:49] <the-erm> sk1special: as I recall once upon a time when I had an nvidia driver, I had to run the configure program as root to get it to save the config.  I was sudo <config-program>, but for the life of me I can't remember what it was.
[11:49] <auronandace> MonkeyDust: i'm not using gnome-panel
[11:49] <mygraine> anybody could help me understand what's this 'beam' process eating all my CPU on 12.04 ?
[11:49] <drvanon_> the-erm, how can i stop that?
[11:49] <drvanon_> the-erm, oops
[11:50] <sk1special> /etc/X11/xorg.conf is the file it saves too
[11:50] <hnsz> sk1special: sudo nvidia-settings
[11:50] <n1> ubuntu in vmware, WICD network manager, doesn-t reckognize the wireless networks in range
[11:50] <n1> vmware issue?
[11:50] <drvanon_> the-erm, what i wanted to say: I am having a dual boot with windows
[11:50] <drvanon_> the-erm, i am a little bit afraid it willl get damaged
[11:51] <the-erm> drvanon_: it still shouldn't matter, set your boot order in the bios to have your hd first.
[11:51] <auronandace> n1: how would it? you aren't emulating a wireless connection
[11:51] <sk1special> should i select absolute then use the mouse to postion or left of/right of option?
[11:51] <dk-t> .join #ubuntu-fr
[11:52] <norbert_> hi all, I've just ran a dist upgrade and Evolution now has a black background... any ideas how I can fix this?
[11:52] <drvanon_> the-erm, what is a hd?
[11:52] <n1> when installed it, it asked me should it use my usb based wireless and it works
[11:52] <the-erm> drvanon_: "hard drive" :)
[11:52] <drvanon_> ah
[11:52] <n1> but another connections it doesn-t see
[11:52] <pz> WOULD SOMOENE PLEASE HELP?
[11:52] <MonkeyDust> caps
[11:52] <pz> xcaps
[11:53] <hdev> Where do i generally start searching, if I have power management issues on my notebook? Already tried powertop.
[11:53] <drvanon_> the-erm, should i then restart pc/
[11:53] <drvanon_> ?
[11:53] <hnsz> pz: Whats the question?
[11:53] <the-erm> What I'm trying to say is I think is your boot order in your bios doesn't have your hard drive listed first :) yes restart your pc.
[11:53] <pz> ubuntu wont boot up
[11:53] <sk1special> its till not saving. and  Xlib:  extension "RANDR" missing on display ":0" that pops up
[11:53] <pz> ive tried restarting
[11:53] <MonkeyDust> pz  what happens when you try?
[11:53] <pz> it doesnt work
[11:53] <n1> auronandace can it be set?
[11:53] <the-erm> pz what are you booting from? usb? cd?
[11:54] <the-erm> Is it already installed ...
[11:54] <pz> dual boot
[11:54] <pz> it's already installed
[11:54] <hnsz> pz: Sow hat happens?
[11:54] <hnsz> what
[11:54] <the-erm> pz: when booting into ubuntu press ctrl+alt+f1 and see if you get any errors.
[11:54] <raven> how to do ocr from webcam images?
[11:55] <fl1bbl3> optical character recognition?
[11:55] <raven> fl1bbl3 right
[11:55] <fl1bbl3> I would imagine "badly"
[11:55] <raven> how to do that
[11:55] <erkan^> Why is still update beheerder --> Upgrade to 10.10 and no to 12.04 LTS? I use 10.04 LTS now
[11:55] <MonkeyDust> hi erkan^
[11:56] <ryannathans> erkan^: you either gotta go thru every versio upgrading or a fresh start
[11:56] <n1> is there wireless experts here?
[11:56] <auronandace> n1: i don't use usb wireless or vmware
[11:56] <woozly> Guys, who use Hope theme on Ubuntu 12.04? It is corrupted :(((
[11:56] <gaelfx> erkan^: I believe it always offers the next version, not the latest, could be wrong though
[11:56] <dinamizador> holaaa!!
[11:56] <woozly> my text labels on alerts and other - white ((
[11:56] <auronandace> n1: i think you need to use bridged networking
[11:56] <zoite> I'm having an issue with installing 12.04. On bootup I get 'unknown keyword in configuration file' then it drops to a boot prompt and can't find any kernels
[11:56] <hdev> Or differntly, how do I disable innecessary devices like a camera I never use or lan (i always use wlan) or the internal sound card (use an usb one, if I need it), also I never use the dvd-player.
[11:56] <erkan^> huh?
[11:56] <raven> how to do ocr from webcam images?
[11:56] <the-erm> erkan^:  sudo do-release-upgrade -d
[11:57] <ryannathans> raven: capture images then use an OCR libary
[11:57] <erkan^> yes, but i see BETA, the
[11:57] <fl1bbl3> raven: http://code.google.com/p/tesseract-ocr/ is decent
[11:58] <n1> auronandace will browse a bit so might click afterwards. thx for a tip and cheers!
[11:58] <fl1bbl3> not great, but then no ocr is
[11:58] <ryannathans> ryanyeah: aww yea. same name. *hi5*
[11:58] <raven> ryannathans would you like to test with me a bit? i captured images and did something to make it compatible for ocr but it does not recognice anything useful
[11:59] <nlici> Hi everybody.I upgrade my ubuntu to 12 today but when the upgrade finished i saw that i can not able to use my samsung printer .Please advice .
[11:59] <ryanyeah> ryannathans: *hi5*. i can see you are easily impressed
[11:59] <cypr1nus> Guys! Thank You all dev's, translators and so on. Great release 12.04 afterall ! :)
[12:00] <drecute> please, does anyone have an answer to this: http://askubuntu.com/questions/125656/store-emails-in-cifs-mounted-filesystem-for-a-postfix-maildir-mailbox-type
[12:00] <raven> ryannathans would you like to test with me a bit? i captured images and did something to make it compatible for ocr but it does not recognice anything useful
[12:00] <domedagen> I have some serious trouble with my Nvidia graphics card. It used to work great but now it doesn't. I can't run any 3D application and can only use Ubuntu 2D
[12:01] <domedagen> The driver from "Additional Drivers" are installed
[12:01] <ryannathans> raven: i was under the impression almost all images were 'compatible'
[12:01] <domedagen> *is
[12:01] <ryannathans> i've no experience with OCR in linux
[12:01] <itpadmin> How do I know wether or not my Xeon processor is Quad Core or not ? Intels homepage says it should be but /proc/cpuinfo doesnt tell me much.. neither does top or htop (They all show only one core)
[12:01] <ryannathans> For some reason my dnsmasq install is broken in 12.04... My whole network depends on this server
[12:02] <domedagen> How can I solve this?
[12:02] <raven> ryannathans i could show you what i mean. i try to capture images from a electrical meter to log it into statistics but for example it seems that ocr only works for chars up to any size
[12:03] <ryanyeah> i'm about to switch to ubuntu as my primary OS. should i go 10.04 or 12.04? i just really hate the unity toolbar thing in 12.04.. unless its possible to disable it
[12:04] <llutz> !nounity | ryanyeah
[12:04] <sk1special> i disabled the xcinema thing.
[12:04] <sk1special> and restarted..
[12:05] <sk1special> and now i can drag and drop between workstations. and my menus look normal. but my second monitor is showing up as a solid grey screen
[12:06] <Multiply> How do I get a service to start, AFTER the NFS mounts have been mounted?
[12:06] <killown> new 12.04 broke ubuntustudio-audio that depends of ubuntustudio-generation http://bpaste.net/show/J4wT67NC8gGyBC1O8YX4/ :/
[12:06] <zoite> When I start the ubuntu 12.04 livecd on usb it fails to boot and says "unknown keyword in configuration file"
[12:07] <zoite> I've tried both with direct download and the torrent
[12:07] <raven_> ryannathans, this is raw: http://imagebin.org/209964 and this is optimized: http://imagebin.org/209965
[12:07] <bobweaver> !md5sum | zoite
[12:07] <zoite> I checked it, it matches what it says on the site
[12:07] <bobweaver> how did you make usb ?
[12:08] <zoite> dd if=Downloads/ubuntu-12.04-desktop-amd64.iso of=/dev/sdb1
[12:08] <bobweaver> oh wow
[12:08] <llutz> zoite: .. of=/dev/sdb    it has to be written to a drive not a partition
[12:08] <zoite> oh derp
[12:08] <zoite> haha
[12:09] <zoite> Thanks llutz
[12:10] <raven_> ryannathans, ?
[12:10] <riefs> #KPLI-Aceh
[12:11] <ryannathans> raven_: yea?
[12:11] <raven_> ryannathans, this is raw: http://imagebin.org/209964 and this is optimized: http://imagebin.org/209965
[12:11] <n0sq> why isn't there an amsn package in ubuntu 12?
[12:11] <ryannathans> my DNS is dead, I can't resolve urls.
[12:11] <ryannathans> That's why I'm here - to fix it.
[12:11] <ryannathans> but no one is helping D:
[12:11] <ryannathans> my whole network has no DNs
[12:11] <ryannathans> DNS*
[12:12] <airtonix> !enter
[12:12] <raven_> ryannathans, sudo route add default gw #.#.#.# ?
[12:12] <ryannathans> I have a firewall preventing access to anything but the server of dnsmasq and i'm not in a position to change it right now
[12:12] <ryannathans> !*
[12:13] <gaelfx> are there any themes that are actually made for unity? or do I have to install compiz stuff to get new themes?
[12:13] <oal> Lesson learnt: Don't upgrade to a new Ubuntu release the first few days. Argh! Unity crashes once I open a wine app, dual screen support is far worse than 7.xx and everything feels sluggish. I thought LTS were supposed to be stabler than usual!
[12:13] <airtonix> oal: always wait 6mths
[12:14] <oal> airtonix: yeah, this has got to be the worst experience I've had with ubuntu since 6.10
[12:14] <airtonix> oal: subjective
[12:15] <ryannathans> oal: join the club!
[12:15] <ryannathans> oal: no working DNS. Woo!
[12:15] <Zx432> The side bar won't go away.
[12:15] <Zx432> Is it a bug?
[12:15] <oal> Zx432: same here
[12:16] <oal> Zx432: you can change its behavior with "myunity" I think it's called
[12:16] <oal> sudo apt-get install myunity
[12:16] <Pitel> is there some indicator which will show cpu/ram/network usage?
[12:16] <ryannathans> Pitel: top or htop
[12:16] <danielsp> System load indicator from SC
[12:17] <mathews> gaelfx, see this http://www.noobslab.com/2011/11/themes-collection-for-ubuntu-1110-unity.html
[12:18] <gaelfx> mathews: saw it, but it appears that many of those need compiz manager and whatnot installed
[12:18] <ryannathans> How does one get dnsmasq working on 12.04?
[12:19] <ryannathans> nice job floodbot. Random status changing.
[12:19] <Nakou> Guys guys guys, i'm in trouble. I do an upgrade from 11.10 to 12.04 and my /var/www folder was lost.
[12:19] <gaelfx> I would have expected there to be more themes available easily from the repos, so you could just install them from software center, but alas
[12:20] <sk1special> stupid floodbot authenticateing me
[12:20] <^Mike> ryannathans: what does "lost" mean? Was that directory a separate partition?
[12:20] <ikonia> sk1special: errr, no it's not authenticating you
[12:20]  * s1m unable to login to the box within tty1!
[12:20] <smallfoot-> try tty2
[12:20] <gvandeweyer> I know the dist-upgrade is not offered to 10.04 lts users untill 12.04.1, but would it still be possible to upgrade a running 10.04 lts server to 12.04, and would this be recommended?
[12:20] <ryannathans> ^Mike: you mean Nakou
[12:20] <sk1special> * this is to make sure youre not a spambot please type oe*
[12:20] <sk1special> one*
[12:21] <^Mike> ryannathans: Yes, sorry. Nakou, what does "lost" mean, and was /var/www a separate partition?
[12:21] <rodhash> Hello guys...
[12:21] <sk1special> but anyways.  i cut off the xinerma ..and now i can drag and drop between workstations. and the menu borders look normal..but my second screen just shows as a pure white blank screen
[12:21] <rodhash> I'm facing little issue with my compiz, when I rotate the cube the screen flashes with the previous window...
[12:21] <rodhash> using desktop wall it doesn't happen
[12:21] <rodhash> any idea?
[12:21] <Nakou> Not, on the same partition... It is in the /var/www on the partition, and he totaly deseaper
[12:22] <sk1special> the mouse goes over to it.. and i can click to like..make a hightlight box. but the cursor is a x and i cant do anything else
[12:22] <Nakou> Shame on me to dont have made separate partition or backup
[12:22] <gaelfx> Nakou: that's because when you installed 12.04, it rewrote everything on your / partition
[12:22] <Nakou> gaelfx : i dont install /, i just do an upgrade
[12:23] <sk1special> gaelfx . do you remeber what you had me do before to fix it ?
[12:23] <rodhash> Any suggestion? about compiz issue?
[12:23] <gaelfx> sk1special: you mean the nvidia problem?
[12:23] <s1m> , I can't log in on any of the ttys. When I press "control+alt+Fx", put my username and password, and always prints "login incorrect".
[12:23] <FloodBot1> !netsplit
[12:23] <sk1special> yeah.. i did a fresh install of the new vs so now i have to do it again
[12:24] <karlyuanjian> what's wrong?
[12:24] <gaelfx> sk1special: haha, well, it should be easier this time around, no?
[12:24] <mathews> ubottu said it
[12:24] <sk1special> same deal. one monitor is blank white with xinerma off. with it on i cant drag and drop between workstations and the windows look like win 98,,
[12:24] <sk1special> supposedly.. i did everything i remember doing before ( mainly messing around in the nvidia panel ) but i cant get it to work
[12:25] <oal> Does the gnome shell work better with Nvidia? Unity is basically unusable on my pc now
[12:25] <gaelfx> sk1special: which nvidia driver did you use, recommended or post release update?
[12:25] <Multiply> How do I get a service to start, AFTER the NFS mounts have been mounted?
[12:26] <ryannathans> Multiply: write a .sh and execute on startup
[12:26] <apter> Hello! can anyone PLEASE help me, been struggling for hours. I can get my garmin nuvi 200 to work in linux. When i connect it is being recognized as a usb device, i run modprobe garmin_usb but do not get it on a /dev/ttyUSB0 or something (have checket with mesg.) Need som serious help! are going to use it with gpsd!
[12:26] <sk1special> uuah its the nvidia current. syas no propierty drivers are in use..didnt give me those two options this time
[12:26] <s1m> oal: it does.
[12:26] <Multiply> ryannathans: Isn't there a proper upstart-ish way?
[12:26] <oal> s1m: wooh, I'll give it a try then. Thanks :)
[12:26] <Multiply> ryannathans: I mean, it's an existing service, but I moved it's config files to a nfs drive.
[12:26] <gaelfx> sk1special: strange, maybe you need to try to activate the driver again?
[12:27] <Lurkin_Lobster> morning
[12:27] <s1m> oal: :)
[12:27] <sk1special> how tho? it doesnt show the propierty ones anymore. just nvidia current and ..
[12:27] <s1m> hey Lurkin_Lobster
[12:27] <gaelfx> sk1special: those are the proprietary drivers
[12:27] <apter> Hello! can anyone PLEASE help me, been struggling for hours. I can get my garmin nuvi 200 to work in linux. When i connect it is being recognized as a usb device, i run modprobe garmin_usb but do not get it on a /dev/ttyUSB0 or something (have checket with mesg.) Need som serious help! are going to use it with gpsd!
[12:27] <mathews> what is garmin nuvi 200?
[12:27] <Lurkin_Lobster> car gps device
[12:27] <apter> mathews: gps device
[12:28] <mathews> thnx
[12:28] <apter> I can't get it to work:(
[12:28] <karlyuanjian> ?
[12:28] <gaelfx> apter: does it show up in lsusb?
[12:28] <ryannathans> Multiply: nope, well I haven't found one
[12:28] <sk1special> really?  okay this time its saying. nvidia -current and nvidia binary xorg..also says no propierty drivers are in use on this system. and last time just said recommended and post release updates
[12:28] <apter> gaelfx:  yes
[12:28] <CreamCUm> I dedicate this song to you apter http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=g-KzpyE87Z4
[12:28] <smallfoot-> apter, do 'lsusb'
[12:29] <Psycho_gr> I'm trying to use Xming on Windows with PuTTY, but when I try to start a program I get: ** (gnome-session:20510): WARNING **: Cannot open display:
[12:29] <apter> smallfoot-: Yes, it comes up in lsusb
[12:29] <CreamCUm> It makes me want to cut my wrists
[12:29] <busfahrer> Excuse me, is it possible to access the internet on my laptop, using my phone's 3G connection *without* using the phone as a modem, i.e. to tell the phone to share its *existing* net connection with the laptop? (Just want to know if it's possible at all)
[12:29] <NurseDad> where do I type the following to register? /msg nickserv register <password> <email>
[12:29] <CreamCUm> busfahrer I dedicate this song to you http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=g-KzpyE87Z4
[12:29] <smallfoot-> NurseDad, anywhere
[12:29] <CreamCUm> nursedad I dedicate this song to you http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=g-KzpyE87Z4
[12:29] <CreamCUm> smallfoot- I dedicate this song to you http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=g-KzpyE87Z4
[12:29] <^Mike> NurseDad: In the text box where you type everything else
[12:29] <sk1special> okay yeah it says. this driver is activated but not currently in use. so what do i do now?
[12:29] <ryannathans> NurseDad: anywhere, ensuring there's no space infront of the /
[12:29] <gaelfx> sk1special: I kinda don't remember what I told you to do, but what I do remember is to change the settings to disable the second monitor and then change them back to enable them and save the settings
[12:30] <mathews> apter, pls see this http://askubuntu.com/questions/505/how-can-i-use-my-garmin-device-in-ubuntu
[12:30] <ryannathans> NurseDad: get help in #freenode
[12:30] <gaelfx> sk1special: ah, you should be able to enable it there
[12:30] <tiagoscd> Ubuntu-BR-SC 12.04 release page is great! Take a look http://www.ubuntubrsc.com/precise1204/ (Brazilian Portuguese) :-)
[12:30] <DoWhileGeek> I'm onsidering getting a ultrabook for ubuntu purposes, any suggestions?
[12:30] <samster34> CreamCUm: uh...shut up, please :)
[12:30] <spartan2276> How can I fix this error: "Media change: please insert the disc labeled     'Ubuntu 12.04 LTS _Precise Pangolin_ - Release amd64 (20120425)' in the drive '/cdrom/' and press enter"?
[12:30] <sk1special> no doesnt let me enable it. just lets me remove..ima try removing. reenabling. and doing the same in the nvidia control panel
[12:30] <ryannathans> spartan2276: build the usb installer with something else
[12:31] <gaelfx> sk1special: haha, sorry, been a long time since I've had trouble with nvidia drivers, yeah, you're right, remove and reenable
[12:31] <dasilvj> #ubuntu-fr
[12:31] <dasilvj> whoops, miss talk
[12:31] <spartan2276> How can I fix this error: "Media change: please insert the disc labeled     'Ubuntu 12.04 LTS _Precise Pangolin_ - Release amd64 (20120425)' in the drive '/cdrom/' and press enter"?
[12:32] <r3dhat> I must say that after years of hating Unity, I feel that it is finally polished and ready to be a productive work environment for me :)
[12:32] <smallfoot-> spartan2276, remove the disc from software sources
[12:32] <gaelfx> r3dhat: agreed
[12:32] <spartan2276> how can I do that?
[12:32] <mathews> spartan2276, explain your question
[12:32] <smallfoot-> spartan2276, you can run 'software-properties-gtk'
[12:32] <polkilo> Привет!!
[12:32] <LjL> !ru < polkilo
[12:32] <spartan2276> I'm trying to install software but every time I get that msg
[12:32] <LjL> !ru « polkilo
[12:32] <LjL> oh meh
[12:33] <MonkeyDust> hehe
[12:33] <smallfoot-> spartan2276, its easy to fix, just run 'software-properties-gtk'
[12:33] <gaelfx> !ru > polkilo
[12:33] <LjL> thanks -.-
[12:33] <polkilo> hello
[12:33] <gaelfx> LjL: ftfy
[12:33] <gaelfx> no prob
[12:33] <Multiply> ryannathans: Actually $remote_fs did the trick. I didn't add this myself tho, so I'm curious as to why it failed earlier. Hmm.
[12:33] <polkilo> can help me&
[12:33] <polkilo> ?
[12:33] <ryannathans> Multiply: you wouldn't have any idea why dnsmasq is screwed in 12.04 would you ?
[12:34] <samster34> ok, trying again...I have this prebuilt intel system, and every linux distro I've tried just flat out refuses to work. I've had to resort to install on a different computer (similar hardware), move the drive to the other computer, but that doesn't work either
[12:34] <s1m> polkilo: state your issue.
[12:34] <Multiply> ryannathans: No idea, sorry. :P
[12:34] <medfly> how can I disable my laptop track pad completely
[12:34] <ryannathans> poo. I have no DNS on my whole network.
[12:35] <JohnnyricoMC> Is gb.archive.ubuntu.com slow for anyone else? I'm doing a netinstall and it's taking way longer than usual :s
[12:35] <apter> mathews: This does not help me: tried it…:(
[12:35] <Multiply> ryannathans: All my servers run on an external gateway. I just get to assign global, or local IPs, directly on the servers.
[12:35] <JohnnyricoMC> as in hours instead of only 15-something minutes :s
[12:35] <mathews> medfly, select the "mouse" from preference menu and do it
[12:35] <mik__> hi scooby
[12:36] <spartan2276> thanks guys, I think that worked
[12:36] <medfly> mathews: I don't see anything to disable it
[12:36] <samster34> if I try to boot (an installed system or a live one), it just freezes on a purple screen, sometimes there's stack/call traces there. if I try to boot with nomodeset, I get an error "stopped waiting for root device, dropping to shell", where my keyboard won't work, so I can't do anything...
[12:37] <mathews> apter, u know I asked u about it,means I dont know about it,but gave u a thread thinking would help u.
[12:37] <NurseDad> anyone else have trouble with Gwibber not showing FB comments?
[12:37] <Posglodito> hello
[12:37] <apter> mathews: okey, sorry
[12:37] <gaelfx> NurseDad: I do, but not for the same reason
[12:38] <Lurkin_Lobster> i have 11.10 but i want to completely start over and reinstall 12.04
[12:38] <mik__> hi scooby do
[12:38] <testBOT> hi, hows it going
[12:38] <NurseDad> gaelfx:?
[12:38] <Lurkin_Lobster> can i just throw the boot cd in and do that?
[12:38] <gaelfx> NurseDad: the great firewall
[12:38] <Lurkin_Lobster> or am i in for a world of hurt if i do
[12:38] <Posglodito> How is that when I try to download Ubuntu 12.04, it recommends me to download the 32 bit version if my system is 64 bits
[12:38] <mathews> medfly, dont u have any special key for it on keyboard?
[12:39] <Pici> Posglodito: Because the website doesn't know what architecture you're running.
[12:39] <smallfoot-> Posglodito, cuz officially 32-bit is recommended, and doesnt do clever javascript check, but get 64-bit version cuz its faster
[12:39] <samster34> if I try to boot (an installed system or a live one), it just freezes on a purple screen, sometimes there's stack/call traces there. if I try to boot with nomodeset, I get an error "stopped waiting for root device, dropping to shell", where my keyboard won't work, so I can't do anything...
[12:39] <CountZ> Posglodito: It is theoretically faster to run a 32bit OS
[12:39] <CountZ> because there's less data to move around
[12:39] <medfly> mathews: I do.
[12:39] <medfly> mathews: it doesn't work.
[12:39] <mathews> Posglodito, when u read it, try to complete the story
[12:39] <CountZ> 64 bit is automatically double the size of memory pointers
[12:40] <hnsz> smallfoot-: I don't think it's recommended anymore
[12:40] <irendal> Hello, how can I know if I installed ubuntu in 32 or 64 bits?
[12:40] <Posglodito> CountZ, you think that the 32 bit OS is faster ???
[12:40] <gaelfx> 64-bit, for those who don't know, goes all the way to 11
[12:40] <samster34> irendal: Settings -> System Details
[12:40] <sk1special> okay now  everything works :] again.. which is awesome. but now this xwinwrap -ov -fs -- /usr/lib/xscreensaver/glmatrix -root -window-id WID wont work
[12:40] <CountZ> Posglodito: in theory yes
[12:40] <polkilo> can i run Nvidia Optimus on this 12.04 without Bumblbee?
[12:40] <gaelfx> irendal: lsb_release -a
[12:40] <smallfoot-> irendal, uname -a
[12:41] <smallfoot-> 64-bit version is slightly faster in most cases under most type of operations
[12:41] <mathews> medfly, http://askubuntu.com/search?q=disabling+touchpad+
[12:41] <irendal> gaelfx, that just tells me "ubuntu 11.10"
[12:41] <sk1special> supposed to run the matrix screensaver in the desktop as a background..was working before but not now
[12:41] <gaelfx> irendal: sorry, my bad :P uname -a is the one
[12:41] <Mauhdeeb> Anyone do a fresh install 12.04 on a second disk and after the installation finishes and you restart you get the > grub rescue? I've tried installing to a second hard drive now three times and get that every time
[12:41] <irendal> i686 means 32 bits?
[12:41] <Posglodito> CountZ, but it's supposed that a SO that moves chunks of 64 bits at once is faster that one that only moves chunks of half the size, isn't so?
[12:41] <smallfoot-> irendal, yes
[12:41] <CountZ> irendal: yes
[12:41] <gaelfx> irendal: yeah, AMD64 would be 64 bit
[12:42] <CountZ> Posglodito: it's not the chunk sizes, it is the sizes of pointers, they take double the amount of memory
[12:42] <smallfoot-> 64-bit is the future
[12:42] <hnsz> CountZ: Big deal
[12:42] <irendal> ok, thanks
[12:42] <medfly> jesus christ, I have a fucking button, why can't I modify it so it works properly on this piece of shit
[12:42] <medfly> or config x for all I care
[12:42] <smallfoot-> go away from 32-bit, stay away from 32-bit
[12:42] <mathews> a 32bit works in both system but it never uses RAM up to 3Gb
[12:42] <samster34> if I try to boot (an installed system or a live one), it just freezes on a purple screen, sometimes there's stack/call traces there. if I try to boot with nomodeset, I get an error "stopped waiting for root device, dropping to shell", where my keyboard won't work, so I can't do anything...this prebuilt box is otherwise useless to me, what could be wrong with it to keep any linux from working? it has a Q8300 LGA 775, an nforce chipset, a 980
[12:42] <mathews> a 32bit works in both system but it never uses RAM above 3Gb
[12:43] <smallfoot-> maybe it does if you use PAE
[12:43] <CountZ> it will use all the ram you have, just not more than 3.3gb at a time
[12:43] <sysRPL> hey uhm ... why doesn't 12.4 ship with a more recent version of gimp in it's repository?
[12:43] <CountZ> (per application)
[12:43] <smallfoot-> sysRPL, it ships with latest stable GIMP
[12:43] <irendal> i wonder if i should install a new 12.04, or stay with my 11.10... i'm a bit worried i'd have trouble making it work, like I had last time :(
[12:43] <smallfoot-> sysRPL, 2.8 is just release candidate
[12:43] <mathews> sysRPL, the new version of gimp is not stable so far
[12:43] <medfly> I'm just going to disable the mouse on the X config instead of installing useless graphics things
[12:43] <sysRPL> i just installed gimp in 12.04
[12:43] <sysRPL> and  it doesn't have single window mode as an option
[12:43] <irendal> what is the default kernel in 12.04?
[12:44] <sysRPL> the version is really old
[12:44] <sysRPL> smallfoot-, ?
[12:44] <CountZ> 3.2.0-23
[12:44] <dr_willis> irendal:  install to a flashdrive to test it
[12:44] <smallfoot-> sysRPL, 2.8 will have single window mode, but 2.8 is not release, its just release candidate 1
[12:44] <CountZ> that's the kernel in 12.04
[12:44] <oal> Hurray! None of the issues I had with unity in 12.04 are present in Gnome shell. /me is happy
[12:44] <irendal> dr_willis, that sounds like a good idea
[12:44] <smallfoot-> sysRPL, its not really old, its the latest stable release
[12:44] <CountZ> oal: what issues?
[12:44] <sk1special> okay did the same thing as last time to make it work.
[12:44] <sk1special> thank ya thank ya
[12:44] <irendal> CountZ, ok, i had to install 3.2.1 in 11.10 to make it work, that's why i'm worried :(
[12:45] <sysRPL> smallfoot-, 2.6
[12:45] <Athanasius> The Asus EEE notebook has 3 power states of "low", "high", and "extra-high" power, which can be set by writing 0, 1, and 2 to /sys/devices/platform/eeepc/cpufv, respectively. Are there scripts/programs for unity that allow for easily changing this? (Especially preferable would be to auto-set low power when on battery, and extra-high when on ac power)
[12:45] <Guest60805> I checked for updates without logging into the system at my school from browser first, now all of my package files have been replaced with the login page.  Now I cannot install anything or get any new updates.  can anyone help me?
[12:45] <sysRPL> smallfoot-, it the verion ubuntu installed
 a 32bit works in both system but it never uses RAM up to 3Gb <-- that is true, I have 8 GB so I should install 64bit version, I think. In spite that it (could) be ¿slower?
[12:45] <smallfoot-> sysRPL, 2.6.12
[12:45] <oal> CountZ: random crashes (window borders disappearing, windows jumping around), and the mouse got stuck between my screens. Had to move it very fast to get across to the other screen
[12:45] <CountZ> oal: weird!
[12:45] <samster34> can anyone help me?  if I try to boot (an installed system or a live one), it just freezes on a purple screen, sometimes there's stack/call traces there. if I try to boot with nomodeset, I get an error "stopped waiting for root device, dropping to shell", where my keyboard won't work, so I can't do anything...this prebuilt box is otherwise useless to me, what could be wrong with it to keep any linux from working? it has a Q8300 LGA 775, an 
[12:45] <apter> If i use gps2ip on my iPhone to stream gps coordinates to linux, will this cost me something? in my telefon bill?
[12:46] <Pici> !offtopic
[12:46] <CountZ> Posglodito: go for the 64bit version if your system is capable of it. 32bit is going to die anyway at some point.
[12:46] <ryannathans> mattswe: via PAE x86 32bit can access much more than 3GB ram
[12:46] <oal> CountZ: indeed... But gnome shell works way better
[12:46] <smallfoot-> apter, not if you steam over Wi-Fi
[12:46] <pawan> I want to use alladin etoken on ubuntu 12.04, the token is dependent on HAL and can't find any solution till now
[12:46] <CountZ> I kinda prefer gnome anyway
[12:46] <woozly> Guys, how to move Unity Launcher on 12.04 to bottom?
[12:46] <Athanasius> apter: Uh, it will probably cost you data usage.
[12:46] <smallfoot-> apter, but if you steam over GSM or 3G then probably yes
[12:46] <CountZ> I'm not sure I'm liking unity very much
[12:46] <Posglodito> CountZ, I see, thanks to all
[12:46] <sysRPL> smallfoot-, also, why doesn't ubuntu come with gcc4.7?
[12:46] <CountZ> It's designed to mimic the Mac UI
[12:46] <Mauhdeeb> !grub rescue
[12:46] <smallfoot-> CountZ, me neither, but Unity is 10x better in 12.04 than it was in 10.10 or something
[12:46] <CountZ> which I do like
[12:46] <apter> smallfoot-: so receiving gps coordinates cost nothing? i am going to stream over wifi (ad-hoc)
[12:46] <oal> CountZ: it looks good so far. Unity worked fine in 11.10, so I never gave Gnome a try before now
[12:46] <ryannathans> !dnsmasq
[12:47] <Pici> !msgthebot
[12:47] <pawan> how to you token (digtal signature) on ubuntu
[12:47] <Athanasius> CountZ: Unity works great once you get used to it. When I first tried it I was majorly "wtf is this"
[12:47] <ditban> permission denied on key http://paste.ubuntu.com/949696/ How to unblock?
[12:47] <dr_willis> CountZ:  i dont find it like the mac at all
[12:47] <Pitel> http://mrdoob.github.com/three.js/examples/webgl_materials_texture_filters.html anyone with chrome, 12.04, unity and nvidia gpu, does this work for you?
[12:47] <smallfoot-> oal, since then Unity have been refined and improved
[12:47] <CountZ> Athanasius: I see... I will definitely give it a chance.
[12:47] <smallfoot-> Pitel, depends what graphics device drivers you use
[12:47] <samster34> help  :(  if I try to boot (an installed system or a live one), it just freezes on a purple screen, sometimes there's stack/call traces there. if I try to boot with nomodeset, I get an error "stopped waiting for root device, dropping to shell", where my keyboard won't work, so I can't do anything...this prebuilt box is otherwise useless to me, what could be wrong with it to keep any linux from working? it has a Q8300 LGA 775, an nforce chip
[12:48] <apter> Athanasius: i stream it over wifi (ad hoc) to my laptop
[12:48] <smallfoot-> Pitel, i think works with proprietary drivers, but not with nouvou open source
[12:48] <CountZ> dr_willis: The menu is always at the top, and there's a doc on the left... and apps are primed for full screen usage. How is that different from the Mac experience? :-)
[12:48] <oal> smallfoot-: I hear they say so, but I had weird bugs happening in 12.04 that I never saw in 11.10
[12:48] <Pitel> smallfoot-: I have priprietary
[12:48] <Pitel> smallfoot-: strange, it works with firefox
[12:48] <sk1special> so weird.. the matrix thing runs fine on all the screens. except for the first workstation on the left ( where i opened the terminal ) the launcher will disappear if i click on the background
[12:48] <CountZ> Even the window controls are on the left like in OS X
[12:48] <smallfoot-> Pitel, check about:gpu in Firefox and Chrome
[12:49] <jarco> its possible in ubuntu to have 2 files with the samen name in ONE folder
[12:49] <smallfoot-> Pitel, start chromium with --ignore-gpu-blacklist
[12:49] <CountZ> jarco: no
[12:49] <Pitel> smallfoot-: already did, there are some "GpuProcessHostUIShim: GPU Process Crashed." at the bottom
[12:49] <smallfoot-> :(
[12:49] <jarco> Well. Its happening here...
[12:49] <Pitel> smallfoot-: I disabled the balcklist using about:flags
[12:49] <n1> hi. any experts in networking via virtual machines?
[12:49] <dr_willis> jarco:  case matters in linux
[12:49] <CountZ> jarco: install midnight commander and rename one of them
[12:49] <Pitel> smallfoot-: the page, it works for you?
[12:50] <CountZ> jarco: files can even have a space at the end of the name and you  just won't see it
[12:50] <samster34> I need some serious help..or a wizard.... if I try to boot (an installed system or a live one), it just freezes on a purple screen, sometimes there's stack/call traces there. if I try to boot with nomodeset, I get an error "stopped waiting for root device, dropping to shell", where my keyboard won't work, so I can't do anything...this prebuilt box is otherwise useless to me, what could be wrong with it to keep any linux from working? it has
[12:50] <dr_willis> jarco:  the files in a ntfs disk or share?
[12:50] <Pitel> smallfoot-: because I;m using chrome dev branch, so maybe thery messed something on their side
[12:50] <jarco> CountZ: you got it. It was the space at the end
[12:50] <jarco> :)
[12:51] <smallfoot-> Pitel, yes, both in firefox and chromium, with opensource nvouea drivers
[12:51] <CountZ> see... :)
[12:51] <choronzon> I just updated to ubuntu 12.04 and before I had this thing I can't remember how to set up where I moved my mouse pointer to the top left edge of the screen and it showed all the windows I had opened. now is gone. anybody know how to get it back?
[12:51] <CountZ> samster34: I struggled with a similar situation yesterday with this laptop i'm using right now. I just couldn't get ubuntu to boot from the USB stick.
[12:51] <smallfoot-> Pitel, im using chromium 18, the one in ubuntu
[12:51] <leo_> Sera
[12:52] <samster34> CountZ: I resorted to installing on a different computer with similar hardware and moving the drive there, and still the same result :/
[12:52] <FreeRangeRadical> Question: Can I safely use Compiz with Unity 2D?
[12:52] <dr_willis> then its not 2d ;)
[12:53] <smallfoot-> FreeRangeRadical, probably, but if your computer can run compiz, why not run unity instead of unity2d?
[12:53] <CountZ> samster34: a dangerous thing I once did in a situation like that, was to switch from UID based partitions in /etc/fstab to physical names
[12:53] <leo_> Tentativo di aggiornare la 11.10 alla 12 finito male
[12:53] <smallfoot-> dr_willis, maybe you can force 2d in login screen
[12:53] <FreeRangeRadical> smallfoot: I wasn't aware that running Compiz was that resource intensive.
[12:53] <spartan2276> oh boy another issue
[12:53] <spartan2276> How can I get my soundcard to work?
[12:53] <samster34> CountZ: how would I do that during setup?
[12:53] <smallfoot-> FreeRangeRadical, its not, i notice no problems on gf8600, 4gb ram, my computer is fast
[12:54] <spartan2276> it wont work and this is all I get http://askubuntu.com/questions/115128/why-is-my-sound-card-not-recognized-by-the-control-panel
[12:54] <samster34> CountZ: and what does it accomplish?
[12:54] <CountZ> samster34: well just fdisk and find out the partition names (sda1, sda2, etc)
[12:54] <spartan2276> I tried following those directions but none of it worked
[12:54] <CountZ> samster34: then replace the GUIDs in /etc/fstab to those names
[12:54] <smallfoot-> FreeRangeRadical, if you dont like compiz, you can use metacity or mutter
[12:54] <FreeRangeRadical> smallfoot: Mine is an old Celeron M, 2.2GHz, 2GB RAM
[12:54] <CountZ> samster34: supposedly on the newer system the GUID's are expected to be different or something of the sort.
[12:55] <ryannathans> dnsmasq no longer returns dns queries after upgrading to 12.04, what do???
[12:55] <dr_willis> !blkid
[12:55] <polkilo> can i run Nvidia Optimus on this 12.04 without Bumblbee?
[12:55] <Posglodito> Could one copy the 12.04 .iso to a pendrive and install from the pendrive?
[12:55] <dr_willis> you can change uids on a fs.
[12:55] <smallfoot-> ryannathans, dnsmasq: failed to create listening socket for port 53: Permission denied
[12:55] <samster34> CountZ: hmm, I see. thanks, I'll give that a try.
[12:55] <smallfoot-> ryannathans, perhaps sudo? idk
[12:55] <irendal> hmm... what package can be missing to provoke a "undefined reference to `pthread_create'" when compiling a program?
[12:55] <ryannathans> smallfoot-: I don't have that problem.
[12:55] <spartan2276> I also ran alsamixer and un-muted everything but still not working
[12:56] <CountZ> samster34: when in grub, are you able to see the drives and partitions if you type 'ls'?
[12:56] <dr_willis> Posglodito: you can image it to usb and boot it
[12:56] <ryannathans> smallfoot-: it is listening fine.
[12:56] <samster34> CountZ: I don't know, hold on
[12:56] <ryannathans> smallfoot-: just not responding with an ip address.
[12:56] <polkilo> can i run Nvidia Optimus on this 12.04 without Bumblbee?
[12:56] <dr_willis> Posglodito: but not a normal file copy
[12:56] <Posglodito> dr_willis there is a link to image an iso to a pendrive?
[12:56] <CountZ> samster34: there are guides via google, on how to deal with a situation such as ours, manually. I'm only referring you to such a guide because I can't for the life of me remember that stuff. It's the kinda thing you do once a year and you forget about it... :-)
[12:57] <llutz> Posglodito: cat yourfile.iso >/dev/sdX    where /dev/sdX is your usb-pendrive
[12:57] <anax> Hey, all. Does anyone have a MSI CX640 laptop and some experience with Ubuntu on it?
[12:57] <dr_willis> Posglodito: tools at pendrivelinux and ither sites. or use dd from a linux box
[12:57] <samster34> CountZ: I don't even know if this is the problem or not...at first it appeared to be a video driver issue
[12:57] <Posglodito> I see, thanks llutz, dr_willis
[12:58] <assurbanipal> hey guys i ve been trying to install gnome-shell extensions for the past 2 days with no success.. i just reinstalled ubuntu 12-04 with another image, but still..
[12:58] <samster34> CountZ: willing to try anything though
[12:58] <CountZ> samster34: here it was an EFI Boot complication... this stupid BIOS can't just boot CD's unless they have an EFI file on them... :-(
[12:58] <polkilo> can i run Nvidia Optimus on this 12.04 without Bumblbee?
[12:58] <samster34> CountZ: ok I'm in grub
[12:59] <CountZ> samster34: ok try to 'ls' and check if you see hd(0,1), etc.
[12:59] <smallfoot-> CountZ, i think most EFI runs in BIOS-compatibility mode, so then perhaps they can boot from El Torito
[12:59] <samster34> CountZ: ls produces a list of (hd0) (hd0,msdos5) (hd0,msdos1)
[12:59] <samster34> CountZ: the hell? I only have ubuntu on this thing..
[12:59] <Pitel> smallfoot-: ok, gonna try chrome beta
[12:59] <CountZ> samster34: why msdos, now that is the question :)
[12:59] <CountZ> smallfoot-: i'm not sure I understand that
[12:59] <spartan2276> How can I fix my sound? This is all I get http://askubuntu.com/questions/115128/why-is-my-sound-card-not-recognized-by-the-control-panel
[12:59] <samster34> the two partitions should be / and swap, I created them with the setup...why would they be called this
[13:00] <assurbanipal> hey guys i ve been trying to install gnome-shell extensions for the past 2 days with no success.. i just reinstalled ubuntu 12-04 with another image, but still..can someone help out of it?it is driving me mad!
[13:00] <CountZ> samster34: the names in grub are different. they aren't / and 'swap'. it just tries to be helpful by telling you the type of partition.
[13:00] <anax> Ok, another question. Did any of you experience the blank Additional Drivers? There's just nothing populating the list.
[13:00] <delinquentme> are there any ssh / encryption channels available on freenode?
[13:00] <dr_willis> samster34:  thats not what dos means in this instace i belive
[13:01] <CountZ> anax: I also have nothing in the list of additional drivers
[13:01] <magnumento> Is it possible to get the sqlserv function for PHP installed if I already installed PHP during the Ubuntu installation process?
[13:01] <ryannathans> delinquentme: /connect -ssl irc.freenode.net    ask in #freenode
[13:01] <samster34> CountZ: yeah, but how does it go from regular (ext4?) to msdos?
[13:01] <ryannathans> delinquentme: unless you are talking about crypto
[13:01] <anax> CountZ how did you solve it? Did you manage to install the drivers somehow else?
[13:01] <dr_willis> samster34:  its a dos compat partioned disk
[13:01] <CountZ> magnumento: apt-get install php5-sybase
[13:01] <smallfoot-> magnumento, edit php.conf file to enable pdo, pdo_mysql, pdo_sqlite
[13:01] <Aram> hey, is there a way I can edit a file owned by apt, like /etc/grub.d/10_linux and bless it in such a way so apt won't nag at every update?
[13:01] <n1> anyone using linux on vmware and connects not through usb stick but regular network_
[13:01] <ryannathans> delinquentme: ##crypto
[13:01] <smallfoot-> CountZ, sybase?? yuck
[13:01] <CountZ> anax: I didn't do anything abou it yet :)
[13:01] <magnumento> thank you both, ill give those both a try quick
[13:02] <CountZ> smallfoot-: well magnumento seems to need mssql access from php...
[13:02] <smallfoot-> CountZ, oh, mssql, yuck
[13:02] <CountZ> I wouldn't use mssql with a gun held against my head.
[13:02] <CountZ> ok maybe with a gun, yes..
[13:02] <magnumento> heh
[13:02] <magnumento> I much prefer MySQL as well
[13:02] <SmoothSage_> haha count :)
[13:02] <ryannathans> how does one get dnsmasq working with 12.04?
[13:02] <magnumento> but the choice is not mine
[13:02] <anax> Countz: Ah, ok. :D I'm trying to install the drivers for GeForce GT520M that's paired with some Intel graphics card. It's some Intel Graphics family. There doesn't seem to be a lot of info about it on the net.
[13:02] <samster34> CountZ: ok, what now? are there any boot options that use basic video drivers, but don't put me in a shell? (my keyboard doesnt work there and I'm unable to do anything)
[13:03] <smallfoot-> well try use mssql via PDO then
[13:03] <smallfoot-> PDO is like a database abstraction layer in PHP
[13:03] <magnumento> smallfoot-, did you mean php.ini? or conf.d?
[13:03] <smallfoot-> then you can easily change to other db maybe
[13:03] <smallfoot-> magnumento, unsure, check both
[13:03] <magnumento> ok
[13:03] <CountZ> samster34: at what point does your keyboard stop working? because it sounds like it does work while you're in grub, right?
[13:03] <MonkeyDust> CountZ  OT, about MySQL, watch this until the end http://users.skynet.be/gbachot/media/marjorie_shapiro.mpeg
[13:04] <samster34> CountZ: yes iot works in grub. during boot, a pretty verbose looking screen, it says "device on port 8 refusing to accept addres 2" then addres 3, 4, 5... then it says unable to enumerate device on port 8, and that's it.
[13:04] <steve-o_> I ran the upgrade from the GUI last night...11.10 => 12.04...went to be while it was still getting packages. This morning, 8 hours later, it is still installing libc-bin. Sounds like the upgrade froze. Computer still working though. How should I recover from this?
[13:04] <steve-o_> *bed not be
[13:05] <samster34> CountZ: then it says "gave up waiting for root device, dropping to shell" but without keyboard that shell doesnt do much
[13:05] <Pitel> smallfoot-: ok, chrome beta (19) works fine.
[13:05] <rigved> steve-o_: in the GUI, expand the terminal tab. it is waiting for input from you...
[13:05] <ryannathans> how does one get dnsmasq working with 12.04?
[13:06] <CountZ> samster34: a usb keyboard? or is that a laptop?
[13:06] <CountZ> MonkeyDust: true true :)
[13:06] <rodd> Hi I'm struggling to update my 10.04 lts to the latest version, I've tried different approaches but haven't succeeded so far. I think I messed up with my sources list, how can i restore it to default? it keeps downloading  package information forever
[13:06] <samster34> CountZ: yes, usb keyboard. tried several, don't have any older
[13:06] <CountZ> samster34: did you try to enable legacy keyboard support in BIOS?
[13:07] <samster34> CountZ: I have no such option
[13:07] <llutz> ryannathans: sudo apt-get install dnsmasq,  then edit the dnsmasq.conf as you need it.
[13:07] <CountZ> hm :(
[13:07] <Dan-The-Man> rodd, the servers are under a lot of load right now it might just take a while
[13:07] <steve-o_> rigved: Duh...thanks. I should have known to do that...appreciate the help.
[13:07] <samster34> CountZ: the bios has only a handful of options
[13:07] <CountZ> what about livecd, does that boot and work ok?
[13:07] <samster34> CountZ: No.
[13:07] <CountZ> yah, new bios are scarce on options...
[13:07] <irendal> Hi, I have a problem trying to install a program from sources in ubuntu... what package can be missing to provoke a "undefined reference to `pthread_create'" when compiling a program?
[13:07] <rigved> steve-o_: you are welcome! all the best with the upgrade!
[13:07] <ryannathans> llutz: since upgrading to 12.04 it's no longer replying to DNS queries with IP addresses.
[13:07] <CountZ> samster34: I tell you it's a conspiracy against linux users...
[13:07] <llutz> !details   | ryannathans
[13:08] <CountZ> :)
[13:08] <anax> Does anyone know how to manually install a graphic driver for GeForce GT520M?
[13:08] <samster34> CountZ: well its a bit old, and it's a prebuilt system, with a motherboard that doesnt seem to have a brand..
[13:08] <CountZ> anax: just download the driver from nvidia and run the installer, no?
[13:08] <ryannathans> llutz: ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=11878891
[13:08] <Dan-The-Man> rodd, ?
[13:08] <CountZ> samster34: sounds weird.
[13:08] <samster34> CountZ: how do I edit the grub boot entry to start X in failsafe mode?
[13:08] <anax> That'll work? Cool, I'll try it. I didn't think it's that straightforward.
[13:09] <CountZ> X is not related to grub in any way
[13:09] <samster34> CountZ: I know
[13:09] <llutz> ryannathans: checked logs? does dnsmasq run at all?
[13:09] <ryannathans> llutz: it runs. What logs do you want me to check?
[13:09] <samster34> CountZ: but I cant boot into the recovery menu thing and choose failsafex there, because I get dropped to the shell with no keyboard if I try to boot that
[13:09] <rodd> Dan-The-Man, well, the sources list seems messed up, with tons of entry, not the servers.  I think I ran some command I shouldn't have and that seems to be the problem
[13:09] <llutz> ryannathans: whatever logfile dnsmasq logs to
[13:09] <CountZ> I see
[13:10] <ryannathans> llutz: none. I guess I should configure logging somehow.
[13:10] <Dougie187> Hi All. I'm getting an "invalid arch independent EFI magic" error when I try to boot after installing 12.04. I tried the solution here http://askubuntu.com/questions/125352/fresh-install-of-ubuntu-12-04-amd64-does-not-boot but then when I boot I just get a grub prompt and I can't get it to boot.
[13:10] <CountZ> samster34: you just add "recovery" near "nomodeset"
[13:11] <anax> Thanks for your help, CountZ!
[13:11] <samster34> CountZ: but nomodeset drops me in the shell with no keyboard
[13:11] <CountZ> samster34: so don't add nomodeset, but recovery is added in that same place
[13:11] <AndyUbuntu> does anyone has a link to a fast torrent for 12.04/
[13:11] <AndyUbuntu> ?
[13:11] <CountZ> also make sure you have: insmod part_msdos
[13:12] <samster34> ....next time
[13:12] <CountZ> (right below the menuentry)
[13:12] <AndyUbuntu> just trying to update from repo and its taking ages
[13:12] <ryannathans> llutz: you wouldn't believe this but running it in logging mode (and only logging mode) makes this thing work.
[13:12] <MrKeuner> hello, is ecrytfs passphrase for the encrypted home directory in Ubuntu the same as my rsa key passphrase?
[13:12] <robgraves> AndyUbuntu: http://www.ubuntu.com/download/desktop/alternative-downloads
[13:13] <bobweaver> can someone check this link too see if it is down on there end. thanks  uds.ubuntu.com
[13:13] <amberfly> bobweaver: It's up fo rme
[13:13] <samster34> CountZ: insmod part_msdos is present
[13:14] <bobweaver> thanks amberfly  wonder why I cant get it too show up
[13:14] <CountZ> samster34: hm... :(  I'm sorry I can't be more helpful.
[13:14] <ryannathans> llutz: AHH, when run from /etc/init.d/dnsmasq start    it doesn't work. When run via commandline, it works.
[13:14] <Dan-The-Man> rodd, well if that is the case i would suggest a fresh install
[13:14] <CountZ> bobweaver: up for me to (from new york)
[13:14] <llutz> ryannathans: sudo service dnsmasq start
[13:14] <samster34> CountZ: trying to see if this did anything...
[13:15] <bobweaver> lol CountZ  I am also in New york
[13:15] <jpds> JohnnyricoMC: re: gb.archive> Welcome to release day.
[13:15] <samster34> CountZ: usb 1-8: new highs-peed usb device number 3 using ehci_hcd
[13:15] <realsilverscreen> hi all. i downloaded ubuntu 64bit and cant install. it wont allow me to click the install button. i tried different keyboards and mice. my system.. intel i7 975, nvidia gtx580, ocz 90gb ssd, 6gb ram
[13:15] <CountZ> bobweaver: what ISP? I'm on Time Warner
[13:15] <rigved> MrKeuner: no.
[13:15] <samster34> CountZ: and again, not accepting address etc etc, unable to enumerate..
[13:15] <CountZ> samster34: wait a sec, I remember reading something about that a while ago.
[13:16] <samster34> it says Error -110 if that helps
[13:16] <AndyUbuntu> thanks robgraves
[13:16] <ryannathans> llutz: nope, doesn't work.
[13:16] <ryannathans> llutz: sudo dnsmasq    works though
[13:16] <ryannathans> llutz: "doesn't work" meaning it doesn't reply to dns queries
[13:16] <CountZ> samster34: http://forums.debian.net/viewtopic.php?t=36197
[13:17] <rigved> realsilverscreen: are you able to click on the "Try Ubuntu" button?
[13:17] <samster34> CountZ: aha, "ALERET! /Dev/disk/by-uuid/............. does not exist. Dropping to shell!
[13:17] <llutz> ryannathans: "sudo pkill dnsmasq && sudo service dnsmasq start && sudo lsof -i :53"
[13:17] <CountZ> samster34: there's two things there. there's the "nousb" that he adds in defoptions, and also update-usbids
[13:17] <realsilverscreen> rigved: no
[13:17] <samster34> so trying to rename those GUIDs might work after all? :/
[13:17] <llutz> ryannathans: does it list dnsmasq as listening?
[13:17] <ryannathans> llutz: yes.
[13:17] <ryannathans> llutz: it doesn't reply to DNS queries with an IP though.
[13:17] <CountZ> samster34: yes, that's one more thing, but get your keyboard to work because it will help you identify the issues once you're in shell
[13:18] <llutz> ryannathans: dig @127.0.0.1 www.ubuntu.com
[13:18] <Potatisen> Hi, i have some questions about Ubuntu and games. I am on a an older laptop right now (4 years old, Dell Inspiron 1520) and i was wondering what my gaming options are if i switch over to Linux/Ubuntu?
[13:18] <ryannathans> llutz: ;www.ubuntu.com.                        IN      A
[13:18] <MrKeuner> rigved, is it a string of hexadecimal values which I have not defined?
[13:19] <samster34> CountZ: I don't suppose I can run that command from the grub commandline? :/+
[13:19] <llutz> ryannathans: ;; ANSWER SECTION:
[13:19] <CountZ> samster34: you can't edit the file?
[13:19] <ryannathans> llutz: there is none
[13:20] <samster34> CountZ: edit what file? can I do this from the grub command line?
[13:20] <the-system> Qui peut m'aider svp ?
[13:20] <husien> hello guys"
[13:20] <OerHeks> !fr | the-system
[13:20] <^Mike> I am removing ubuntu from a dual-boot system. How do I restore the windows bootloader?
[13:21] <OerHeks> ^Mike,  use your windows cd to restore the mbr
[13:21] <Gnea> ^Mike: a question probably better asked in ##windows
[13:21] <ryannathans> ^Mike: using windows cd "bootrec /fixmbr"
[13:21] <ryannathans> ^Mike: then "bootrec /fixboot"
[13:21] <anev> has foremost been removed from ubuntu's default repos?
[13:21] <^Mike> ok, thanks
[13:21] <rigved> realsilverscreen: make sure that the checksum of the downloaded image is correct
[13:21] <samster34> CountZ: are you talking about the file in the post linked at the link you posted? http://www.geekdevs.com/2010/04/solved-unable-to-enumerate-usb-device-disabling-ehci_hcd/
[13:22] <Jiggy> Hi can anyone help me please?
[13:22] <anev> i tried apt-get install foremost and via aptitude - can't find it anymore?
[13:22] <Gnea> ryannathans: does that work with XP, too?
[13:22] <ryannathans> llutz: meh, i'll just use a cronjob to "killall dnsmasq && dnsmasq"
[13:22] <ryannathans> Gnea: should do
[13:22] <Potatisen> No gaming-people in here atm?
[13:22] <CountZ> samster34: yes
[13:22] <ryannathans> Potatisen: I am ;)
[13:22] <Jiggy> ??
[13:22] <llutz> ryannathans: dirty hack. check /etc/default/dnsmasq and /etc/init.d/dnsmasq   for errors or weird entries
[13:22] <Jiggy> guys?
[13:22] <samster34> CountZ: ok, can I do that in the grub commandline? wouldn't the filesystem need to be mounted?
[13:22] <christhisisgool> Jiggy: please state your problem so that someone can help you
[13:23] <husien> i try change the htaccess.txt   to   .htaccess using command "mv htaccess.txt .htaccess" ... after that i can't see the .htaccess file..???
[13:23] <rigved> MrKeuner: rsa key has to be manually created by you (using seahorse on your ubuntu). it is very large string of hex characters. your home directory passphrase will be a string of letters and numbers (not hex)
[13:23] <hydra> hi there, whereis NOW locate the slapd.conf for LDAP ?
[13:23] <samster34> husien: .something files are hidden by default
[13:23] <realsilverscreen> rigved: where do you find check sum on ubuntu website?
[13:23] <hydra> I just cannnot find it
[13:23] <samster34> husien: CTRL+H to show hidden files in nautilus
[13:23] <hydra> * located
[13:23] <llutz> ryannathans: there must be a reason why it fails when starting  it as a service
[13:24] <ryannathans> llutz: IGNORE_RESOLVCONF=yes
[13:24] <nuclearkitten> locate says /usr/local/etc/openldap/slapd.conf
[13:24] <Jiggy> ok, so I've just installed 12.04 and when I try to boot it I get a red screen for a few seconds and then a blank screen, wat do?
[13:24] <nuclearkitten> but not sure
[13:24] <ryannathans> llutz: it was commented out before, now it works ;)
[13:24] <gunfire007> if i want to use rpm package how can i use ??
[13:24] <husien> samster34: so how to edit that file?
[13:24] <nuclearkitten> any ideas where to find the LDAP slapd.conf ?
[13:24] <CountZ> samster34: best is if you mount the filesystem, chroot to it, edit the file and run update-grub etc.
[13:24] <CountZ> because without updating grub your changes will be in vain
[13:24] <llutz> ryannathans: stuff always works (if you do it right) :)
[13:24] <gaelfx> gunfire007: rpm is for Fedora, so you would have to use that ideally
[13:24] <samster34> CountZ: but how? I have no clue how do that in the grub command line
[13:24] <rigved> realsilverscreen: it is on the same page from which you downloaded the ubuntu image. where did you download from?
[13:24] <Jiggy> ?
[13:25] <gunfire007> gaelfx: so i can't
[13:25] <samster34> husien: try gedit .htaccess
[13:25] <gaelfx> gunfire007: you should look for a .deb package
[13:25] <ryannathans> llutz: eventually ;) thank for the /etc/default/ pointer
[13:25] <WhereIsMySpoon> Hi, Im trying to install ia32-libs but even with the universe repos uncommented in /etc/apt/sources.list and an apt-get update it says it isnt available..anyone can help, please?
[13:25] <nuclearkitten> using ubuntu 10-4 btw
[13:25] <gunfire007> so i can't  use that software on my buntu...
[13:25] <husien> samster34: ok thanks
[13:25] <llutz> ryannathans: np
[13:25] <Jiggy> ???
[13:26] <OerHeks> WhereIsMySpoon, since 11.10 ubuntu 64 bit is multi arch
[13:26] <gaelfx> gunfire007: unless you can find a .deb file for it, no
[13:26] <WhereIsMySpoon> OerHeks, ok? why does that mean i cant install those lisb
[13:26] <WhereIsMySpoon> libs
[13:26] <realsilverscreen> rigved: you see checksum when you download?? i downloaded from ubuntu.com
[13:26] <smallfoot-> WhereIsMySpoon, install 'multiarch-support'
[13:26] <gunfire007> gaelfx: ok
[13:26] <OerHeks> WhereIsMySpoon, yes, you could.
[13:27] <WhereIsMySpoon> smallfoot-, i have ia32-libs-multiarch package installed
[13:27] <WhereIsMySpoon> is that the right one?
[13:27] <OerHeks> smallfoot-, why ? it is already available....
[13:27] <smallfoot-> WhereIsMySpoon, i think it should be named 'multiarch-support', thats the one i have
[13:27] <rigved> realsilverscreen: it is there on this page: http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/releases/12.04/release/
[13:27] <WhereIsMySpoon> smallfoot-, ah yes, its already installed
[13:27] <smallfoot-> OerHeks, idk, but i have multiarch-support installed and 32-bit works for me
[13:27] <WhereIsMySpoon> latest vesrion
[13:27] <WhereIsMySpoon> i guess this isnt the fix for my actual problem then
[13:28] <WhereIsMySpoon> what im getting is: /sbin/ldconfig.real: /usr/lib/libglib-2.0.so.0 is not a symbolic link
[13:28] <WhereIsMySpoon> and i was told to install all the packages related to ia32-libs
[13:29] <Dougie187> I'm having a really hard time getting 12.04 to boot. After I install I get "invalid arch independent EFI magic" and none of the solutions I've found online fix it.
[13:29] <rigved> realsilverscreen: my mistake. it is on this page: http://releases.ubuntu.com/precise/
[13:30] <WhereIsMySpoon> smallfoot-, you know why im getting this error?
[13:30] <killer> anyone got here bcm4312 wireless card
[13:30] <gaelfx> WhereIsMySpoon: multi-arch support is, I believe a meta package that makes sure all those libs are installed
[13:30] <smallfoot-> WhereIsMySpoon, i dont know
[13:30] <smallfoot-> gaelfx, yes
[13:30] <WhereIsMySpoon> gaelfx, yes i have multi-arch support package installed
[13:30] <smallfoot-> gaelfx, multiarch-support*
[13:31] <rigved> realsilverscreen: you must have the ubuntu-12.04-desktop-amd64.iso, right? then, open the md5sums file and search for the md5sum in the list for your iso file.
[13:31] <gunfire007> can ubuntu be installed on arm architechture ??
[13:31] <gaelfx> gunfire007: yes, I think that's the armel spin you want to download for that
[13:31] <rigved> gunfire007: on arm7, yes.
[13:31] <smallfoot-> WhereIsMySpoon, i guess you have libc6-i386 installed hten too
[13:31] <Dougie187> gaelfx: or armhf right?
[13:31] <gunfire007> than it's cool
[13:31] <gaelfx> Dougie187: could be :D
[13:31] <gunfire007> :)
[13:32] <reaper> why am I getting bad signature after upgrading to 12.4 ??
[13:32] <WhereIsMySpoon> smallfoot-, there isnt such package as libc6-i386
[13:32] <redact3d> anyone know how to fix compiz's magic lamp minimize?
[13:32] <WhereIsMySpoon> smallfoot-, i have libc6 though
[13:32] <WhereIsMySpoon> which replaces it
[13:32] <Dougie187> I guess there are no grub experts in here?
[13:33] <GregTsyr> ?
[13:33] <gaelfx> Dougie187: or they just aren't paying attention. what's the problem?
[13:33] <Dougie187> gaelfx: "invalid arch independent EFI magic"
[13:33] <Dougie187> I tried some things I found online, but when I reboot I just get a grub prompt
[13:33] <Dougie187> btw, this is after a fresh install (using a separate /home) on amd64 of ubuntu desktop
[13:34] <slikts> where is alternate iso for 12.04 x64 pc?
[13:34] <irendal_> Hi, I have a problem trying to install a program from sources in ubuntu... what package can be missing to provoke a "undefined reference to `pthread_create'" when compiling a program?
[13:34] <slikts> I want to have full disk encryption with LVM
[13:34] <gaelfx> slikts: releases.ubuntu.com
[13:34] <slikts> gaelfx: where exactly? I don't see it
[13:34] <slikts> gaelfx: that's why I ask
[13:34] <smallfoot-> WhereIsMySpoon, my system have libc6, libc6-i386 and libc6:i386
[13:34] <WhereIsMySpoon> smallfoot-, i dont have the option to install libc6-i386
[13:34] <slikts> gaelfx: sry, now I found it
[13:35] <gaelfx> Dougie187: er...I can't even begin to imagine what that means
[13:35] <reaper> Ubuntu is a broken FAIL. A real embarrassment to GNU/Linux. FW blobs in the kernel, bad signatures, a DE that is a mega joke. Non FOSS code in the repos. OMG-Ubuntu!
[13:35] <gaelfx> slikts: np
[13:35] <UnwinnableDonB> Anybody have any luck getting close/minimize/maximize on the left in gnome-shell?
[13:35] <WhereIsMySpoon> if u do sudo apt-get install libc6-i386 it says the package isnt available, but that libc6 replaces it
[13:35] <slikts> reaper: you're a moron, however
[13:35] <slikts> reaper: there are many things you can say where ubuntu fails, but the ones you listed mean nothing in comparison
[13:36] <slikts> reaper: I deal with its severe issues as a user daily, and NONE of them involve what you said
[13:36] <smallfoot-> WhereIsMySpoon, its there in synaptic for me
[13:36] <slikts> reaper: so take your ideological shit and stuff it
[13:36] <gaelfx> Dougie187: out of curiosity though, what mobo are you using?
[13:36] <llutz> slikts: don't feed the troll
[13:36] <Dougie187> gaelfx: it's a dell e6520 laptop
[13:36] <realsilverscreen> rigved: checksum correct
[13:36] <WhereIsMySpoon> smallfoot-, well it isnt for me
[13:37] <WhereIsMySpoon> and in any case, i dont even know if thats what i need to fix the problem
[13:37] <races1986> exit
[13:37] <magnumento> weird
[13:37] <magnumento> i can connect to the db using tsql
[13:37] <SmoothSage_> how many of you guys are sitting in front of more than one computers ?
[13:37] <gaelfx> Dougie187: stab in the dark here, but are you sure the BIOS/EFI is totally updated?
[13:37] <assurbanipal> SmoothSage_, me
[13:37] <magnumento> but it still says sqlsrv_connect is an undefined function
[13:37] <slikts> SmoothSage_: I'm in front of multiple pcs/screens daily >>
[13:37] <slikts> slikts: also multiple VMs
[13:37] <Dougie187> gaelfx: I *think* so. but I don't have control over that. :/
[13:38] <UnwinnableDonB> SmoothSage_: two plus a thin client, and a third in a box waiting to be configured.
[13:38] <reaper> slikts Problem is you lose devs like me. Sure we will take our stuff and move on. You can find me over at xxx@debian.org ;)
[13:38] <WhereIsMySpoon> SmoothSage_, sure, why?
[13:38] <Dougie187> gaelfx: it worked fine in 11.10 (yesterday)
[13:38] <slikts> reaper: "devs like you" can go suck live wires
[13:38] <SmoothSage_> :) today is my first day on multiple machines... of which one i want to dedicate solely for IRC, messengers and such things
[13:39] <gaelfx> Dougie187: did you try reinstalling grub using a livecd/usb?
[13:39] <ubuntu__> hello is this is a ubuntu chat???
[13:39] <SmoothSage_> so was wondering if you guys had any advice for me which would help me utilize more :)
[13:39] <WhereIsMySpoon> ubuntu_, yes
[13:39] <Dougie187> gaelfx: yeah. When I do that I get a blank grub prompt at boot
[13:39] <gaelfx> Dougie187: where did you put /boot?
[13:39] <Dougie187> on /dev/sda1
[13:39] <ubuntu__> hi i have a problem did i am using ubuntu 12.04 and when i do a nmap, port 53 is open. is there a way to disable it?
[13:40] <reaper> slikts you sound like a non *nix person. If everybody talked like you there would be no GNU/Linux. You need to talk to RMS or get a job with MS.
[13:40] <Dougie187> so I did "sudo mount /dev/sda1 /mnt" "sudo grub-install --root-directory=/mnt /dev/sda"
[13:40] <WhereIsMySpoon> SmoothSage_, if you're only gonna use the linux install for messenger/email/irc etc then i suggest you get rid of gnome/unity and use xfce for a start, as otherwise you may as well have windows xp installed :)
[13:40] <ikonia> ubuntu__: you're running a dns server
[13:40] <llutz> !ot | reaper
[13:40] <slikts> reaper: tryhard troll spotted
[13:40] <slikts> thank rms for ignore lists
[13:41] <ubuntu__> how to disable the dns server in ubuntu 12.04
[13:41] <ikonia> ubuntu__: you "shouldn't" be running one,
[13:41] <gaelfx> Dougie187: anything in grub.conf after that?
[13:41] <ikonia> ubuntu__: what have you installed ? bind ?
[13:41] <WhereIsMySpoon> Ima reiterate my original q: I'm getting /sbin/ldconfig.real: /usr/lib/libglib-2.0.so.0 is not a symbolic link error when i install some packages, why does this happen, is it a problem, and if so, how do i fix it?
[13:41] <reaper> ubuntu_ there is a nice dns server called ttdnsd .Not sure its in the reps. ioerror wrote most of it.
[13:41] <SmoothSage_> WhereIsMySpoon hmm :)
[13:41] <Dougie187> gaelfx: well, that's when I get the blank grub prompt
[13:41] <papachan> ok ubuntu 12.04 works fine
[13:41] <ubuntu__> can you guys tell how to disable it, i am using ubuntu 12.04
[13:41] <Dougie187> before that I get a grub error prompt with the EFI magic crap
[13:41] <ikonia> reaper: he doesn't want a DNS server
[13:42] <llutz> ubuntu__: "sudo lsof -i :53"
[13:42] <papachan> do you have experienced this same problem? W: Failed to fetch http://ppa.launchpad.net/chromium-daily/ppa/ubuntu/dists/precise/main/source/Sources  404  Not Found
[13:42] <Dougie187> gaelfx: so, I guess my assumption would be no. but I can try it again. I just did another reinstall to see if I get the same error. (which I probably will)
[13:42] <the-system> ##windows
[13:42] <reaper> ikonia sry missed that ... been working a bit to much today with DNS coding =)
[13:42] <ikonia> dns coding ???
[13:42] <papachan> seems chromium-daily not online for precise
[13:42] <ubuntu__> it's dnsmasq
[13:42] <reaper> ikonia I work with the tor foundation at times.
[13:42] <ikonia> ubuntu__: ahhh there we go
[13:43] <reaper> =)
[13:43] <llutz> ubuntu__: sudo service dnsmasq stop & sudo apt-get purge dnsmasq    (if you really don't need it)
[13:43] <gaelfx> Dougie187: yeah, sorry to hear that. I'm obviously no grub expert
[13:43] <Dougie187> heh, it's ok
[13:43] <Dougie187> I just figured someone in here might know how to fix it up
[13:43] <digitalvaldosta> does anyone here know of an IRC room that can help troubleshoot an OKI microline 420 printer connected to XP machine?
[13:43] <ikonia> digitalvaldosta: ##windows ?
[13:44] <digitalvaldosta> yeah, for a customer.
[13:44] <hdev> I added bluetooth, snd_hda_intel to /etc/modprobe.d/blacklist.conf, but the drivers still getting loaded on boot, any ideas?
[13:44] <Posglodito> deu
[13:44] <mneptok> Dougie187: is the BIOS set to boot via (U)EFI or a combo of BIOS and UEFI?
[13:44] <Dougie187> mneptok: I'm not 100% but my guess is it's a combo.
[13:44] <Dougie187> mneptok: I'm booting on a live usb, and it when it's listed in the boot list it's called "UEFI"
[13:45] <mneptok> Dougie187: the Ubuntu installer *should* detect UEFI, and install the necessary bits and bobs. having the BIOS set to noot a combo of UEFI and legacy may confuse that detection.
[13:45] <Dougie187> mneptok: ok. I can check and see if it's set to a combo.
[13:45] <Dougie187> it'll be a minute before I get back here though
[13:45] <Dougie187> brb
[13:46] <frombenny> Any problem with Compiz ? Can't use Unity 3D !
[13:46] <gaelfx> mneptok: wow, that does sound like invalid efi magic. cool
[13:46] <vivien_m> Hello. Where is libpam-ssh in Ubuntu 12.04? The package does not seem to be here anymore. Is it libpam-sshauth (not sure from the description)?
[13:47] <LeV91> Anyone have experience setting up a component 1080i tv as a secondary output using fxgl?
[13:47] <gaelfx> how do you know if you're using unity3d?
[13:47] <papachan> oh
[13:47] <papachan> compiz crashed
[13:47] <UnwinnableDonB> I'm trying to get my close/min/max buttons on the left in gnome-shell on 12.04 following these directions, but it's not taking: http://geekum.wordpress.com/2011/05/25/how-to-move-close-button-in-debian-gnome-shell-to-left-like-ubuntu/
[13:47] <UnwinnableDonB> Any thoughts?
[13:48] <WhereIsMySpoon> I'm getting /sbin/ldconfig.real: /usr/lib/libglib-2.0.so.0 is not a symbolic link error when i install some packages, why does this happen, is it a problem, and if so, how do i fix it?
[13:48] <ikonia> WhereIsMySpoon: what packages ?
[13:48] <killer1> anyone got bcm4312 card wireless
[13:48] <WhereIsMySpoon> ikonia, its happened over a fair few packages ive tried to install recently..i dont remember any names specifically though, but i do remember it keep on happening
[13:49] <ikonia> that's prettty usless info
[13:49] <WhereIsMySpoon> im sorry D:
[13:49] <ikonia> WhereIsMySpoon: the error is pretty clear it should be a symlink and it's not, however it's most likley packages from an external repo that are expecting it to be different (I could be wrong but without info it's hard to tell)
[13:49] <WhereIsMySpoon> ikonia, ill take a look in syslog
[13:49] <papachan> Chromium daily sources  are not working for me: Failed to fetch http://ppa.launchpad.net/chromium-daily/ppa/ubuntu/dists/precise/main/source/Sources  404  Not Found
[13:49] <WhereIsMySpoon> then report back
[13:49] <Jimu> UnwinnableDonB: did you use the GUI gconf-editor? when you go in, are the settings still correct for what you changed them to?
[13:50] <matisse> hi
[13:50] <UnwinnableDonB> Jimu: I used gconftool from the command line, but both a gconftool --get and gconf-editor show that the change took, but the window controls are still on the right.
[13:50] <Endafy> in both Ubuntu and Kubuntu on my core i7 machine with nvidia gtx 550 ti card I cannot get the cd to boot, both Ubuntu and Kubuntu 12.04, it will go through the boot logo flash black then give me a blinking cursor and the disk stops reading
[13:51] <Rar9> solr
[13:51] <matisse> If I want to login with the account which has sudo rights kde freezes during login. Also starting firefox 2 times in a session freezes the system
[13:51] <Endafy> happens on 32 and 64 bit disks
[13:51] <dr_willis> !nomodeset
[13:51] <frombenny> to #gaelfx : if you don't experience any prob, you are in Unity 3D. If you want to try Unity 2D, you have to logout and clic on the icon (top right).
[13:51] <zykotick9> Endafy: have you tried nomodeset?
[13:52] <Endafy> how
[13:52] <Dougie187> mneptok: ok. So it's set to boot legacy. and I think I may have found my problem.
[13:52] <zykotick9> Endafy: see ubottu above
[13:52] <Dougie187> I'm 90% sure I was just being retarded. :p
[13:52] <gaelfx> frombenny: haha, that's strange that 3D wouldn't cause any problems but 2D would
[13:52] <Endafy> cool ty its been a while since ive formatted
[13:52] <gaelfx> Dougie187: haha, how so? I take it it's working now?
[13:52] <Jimu> UnwinnableDonB: and button_layout says "close:" now? (also, isn't that weird, just the close button? not the max/min?)
[13:52] <Endafy> ive got 3 computers so I know the disks are ok lol
[13:53] <UnwinnableDonB> Jimu: Yep. And I realize that I should set "close,minimize,maximize:", but no change to that key seems to register.
[13:53] <Dougie187> gaelfx: not yet. but I think it will work this time. My usb drive is listed twice in the boot menu. Once as "USB Storage Device" under legacy. and one as "UEFI" under EFI Boot devices.
[13:53] <Dougie187> gaelfx: I was always insalling it from the UEFI part, so now I'm trying it from the usb storage device part.
[13:53] <Endafy> cool will do ty
[13:53] <OerHeks> Endafy you are affected with Bug 969121
[13:53] <dr_willis> Dougie187:  ive seen that a few times also.
[13:54] <Dougie187> dr_willis: did that happen when you saw it too?
[13:55] <WhereIsMySpoon> ikonia, where would messages that appear whilst the package installing process go? ive looked in syslog and dkpg.log
[13:55]  * OerHeks wonders about 'unconfirmed' reading http://www.mail-archive.com/ubuntu-x-swat@lists.launchpad.net/msg163282.html
[13:55] <dr_willis> Dougie187:  i used rhe non efi entry and it worked. nevr tried the efi one
[13:55] <kal-l> i need to know something is it ok and safe to delete consolekit? Its for tracking user but i am the only one that longs into my pc...
[13:55] <Jimu> UnwinnableDonB: i'm gonna try it on mine, are you using the GNOME Classic? Or the newer one?
[13:55] <Dougie187> dr_willis: Oh ok.
[13:55] <UnwinnableDonB> The newer one.
[13:55] <UnwinnableDonB> gdm lists it simply as "GNOME".
[13:55] <Dougie187> dr_willis: well, I'm pretty sure the EFI one broke my install last night, so I'm trying the legacy one now.
[13:55] <saml> can I upgrade to 12.04?
[13:55] <saml> will it break everything?
[13:56] <Dougie187> saml: did you backup everything?
[13:56] <saml> no
[13:56] <Dougie187> saml: you should.
[13:56] <saml> oh crap i pressed Upgrade already
[13:56] <dr_willis> i think the efi entry shows up depending on how syslinux is set up on the usb stick
[13:56] <saml> i might not have any work done today
[13:56] <kal-l> lol
[13:56] <Dougie187> saml: you can always cancel it if you want to. lol
[13:56] <WhereIsMySpoon> lol
[13:56] <WhereIsMySpoon> wat
[13:57] <WhereIsMySpoon> i smell troll
[13:57] <Dougie187> dr_willis: that makes sense.
[13:57] <saml> upgrade broke.. so i installed lubuntu on top of ubuntu
[13:57] <saml> let's see how this upgrade goes
[13:57] <saml> upgrade can be unattended?  if so i'll cancel now and upgrade before i leave work
[13:58] <Dougie187> yes?
[13:58] <kal-l> is ok to delete ConsoleKit if you are the only user on the pc and its for tracking users its kind of dumb to track yourself lol
[13:58] <Dougie187> you might need to attend it when you get home though. lol
[13:58] <Jimu> UnwinnableDonB: when i did my button moves in Unity, I changed the gconf under /apps/metacity/general/button_layout... I'd try that instead unless you're not using metacity
[13:58] <WhereIsMySpoon> guys, where would the logs for package installation be? ive looked in syslog and dpkg.log and they dont seem to be there
[13:59] <Dougie187> WhereIsMySpoon: I think it's /var/log/apt/apt.log
[13:59] <en1gma> im trying to get my hdmi audio working (onboard amd 4290) running 12.04-desktop x86 from a USB STICK
[13:59] <Dougie187> or something like that
[13:59] <UnwinnableDonB> Jimu: I did. Same problem.
[13:59] <joemppe> I'm trying to install Ubuntu 12.04 (server disc) on a RAID 1+0 array (4*500 GB). The installer gives me the ATA RAID device detect dialog as expected. When I go on to select guided partitioning, however, the installer doesn't list the RAID volume but rather only my Hitachi drive (as sdd). I don't know what's supposed to happen here, but I suspect this is not normal and a sign of a hardware problem?
[13:59] <en1gma> can anyone help
[13:59] <joemppe> I tested this on Windows 7, and while the system installed fine, the Hitachi drive would sporadically drop out of the array.
[13:59] <joemppe> Relevant device specs: Asus M5A78L/USB3 (AMD SB710 southbridge RAID controller), Hitachi HDP725050GLA360, Samsung HD502IJ, 2x WD5000AAKX
[13:59] <saml> too scary. i'm gonna do it before i leave
[13:59] <reaper> saml Updates are done by eyeballing your computer real hard and chanting "upgrade" three times. Kind of like the movie Men Who Stare at Goats
[14:00] <Dougie187> WhereIsMySpoon: sorry, it's history.log
[14:00] <Jimu> UnwinnableDonB: well shucks. i can't test on this computer, i can't run the newer Gnome shell, just the 2d stuff
[14:00] <reaper> saml but you might want to push the upgrade to 12.04 button first under updates first.
[14:00] <WhereIsMySpoon> ikonia, for example, i installed libqt-4scripttools, and it happens
[14:00] <UnwinnableDonB> Jimu: Thanks for trying.
[14:00] <UnwinnableDonB> brb - meeting.
[14:00] <WhereIsMySpoon> Dougie187, yea found it
[14:00]  * UnwinnableDonB is away: Away
[14:01] <WhereIsMySpoon> ikonia, also when i installed wine
[14:01] <LeV91> Anyone have experience setting up a component 1080i tv as a secondary output using fxgl?
[14:01] <en1gma> amd 4290 (no hdmi audio) 12.04 desktop i386
[14:01] <halfie_> hi, I have installed fglrx package but I am missing fglrx_drv_video.so file. Any tips to get VAAPI working?
[14:01] <en1gma> im using usb stick
[14:02] <kal-l_> lol
[14:03] <joemppe> anyone? :s
[14:04] <jpcaissy> Hey, i've just updated from 11.10 to 12.04 and I am having problem reinstalling skype-32bit. I've got the same problem as bug #948108. Anybody have any clue on what is causing this?
[14:05] <reaper> OMG-Ubuntu! I'm doing the Macadona dance watching this #  To the OPs here, hats off to you!
[14:05] <joemppe> oh, friday afternoon, right
[14:06] <ikonia> reaper: give it a rest please.
[14:07] <Jimu> why, when I do "gksudo gedit File.txt" It opens with a second tab for "Untitled 1"?
[14:07] <WhereIsMySpoon> Jimu, mine does that too =/
[14:07] <joemppe> workaround: use nano =D
[14:08] <WhereIsMySpoon> >_>
[14:08] <Cajun_Lan_Man> Hello Everyone. Could someone tell me how to utilize an entire flash drive as a bootable Ubuntu install? I can't seem to convince Ubuntu to use the whole thing.
[14:09] <kelvinella> hi, here is dell mini 1010.  after installed the ubuntu 12.04.  blank screen
[14:09] <acalbaza> where can i look for 12.04 lts bug reports?
[14:09] <Jimu> Cajun_Lan_Man: how much is it using and how big is the drive?
[14:09] <kelvinella> i suspect that is the video card driver problem but how do i solve it?
[14:09] <szal> !bugs | acalbaza
[14:09] <ajf> OK
[14:10] <ajf> trying to play a game
[14:10] <ajf> no sound
[14:10] <ajf> get this terminal message: "ALSA lib pcm.c:2217:(snd_pcm_open_noupdate) Unknown PCM default"
[14:10] <vivien_m> Hello. Nobody knows what happened to libpam_ssh?!
[14:10] <vivien_m> in Ubuntu 12.04 I mean
[14:10] <killer> how to know what wireless card i m using
[14:10] <Cajun_Lan_Man> Jimu: I just bought a 16 gig USB3 drive that would work perfectly.  However, in the past when I've used a 4 or 8 gig drive, the USB creator in Ubuntu only seems to give it just enough space to install.  If I try to do updates or add programs, it immediately says it's out of space, dispite there being room on the drive.
[14:10] <halfie_> can I disable compiz on Ubuntu 12.04?
[14:11] <sary> kelvinella: try one of the kernel boot options
[14:11] <Jimu> Cajun_Lan_Man: have you tried increasing the partition size? (with something like gparted?)
[14:11] <Cajun_Lan_Man> jimu: you mean after the fact?
[14:11] <kelvinella> sary, then what?
[14:11] <Jimu> Cajun_Lan_Man: yes
[14:12] <sary> !bootoptions > kelvinella
[14:12] <thiebaude> anyway to put the unity launcher on the bottom?
[14:12] <stapper> Can I get some ubuntu support here?
[14:12] <wadechandler> So, I have been disliking unity because I don't like the panel to the side of my monitor, and also, I can't have multiple panels and I use multiple monitors. Has anyone done any of this successfully? I tried some configuration things I found on Google to supposedly move it from the left to the top, but it just ignored that. Has this gotten better in 12.04 or does it still stink like 11.10? I'm using 11.10 but have configured it
[14:12] <sary> kelvinella: then you might be able to pass to the desktop
[14:12] <kelvinella> cant
[14:13] <thephantom> http://pastebin.com/Sze1GneH should this disk have been formated with 4096 logical sectors?
[14:13] <stapper> wadechandler: you could use ubuntu-tweak
[14:13] <Cajun_Lan_Man> Jimu: I'll give that a shot.  Thanks. :-)
[14:13] <Jimu> wadechandler: i think 12.04 has the ability to put it on more than one monitor
[14:13] <terry_math> hello
[14:13] <rodd> Alright, so I've been trying to update my 10.04 lts to 12.04 lts with no luck
[14:13] <wadechandler> Jimu: can you put it some where other than the left side of the screen?
[14:14] <rodd> I've tried different things, messed up my sources list, fixed it, checked for new updates following the guide at ubuntu's website and still nothing
[14:14] <Jimu> wadechandler: not that i'm aware of
[14:14] <rodd> I feel left behind
[14:14] <sfears> rodd: maybe upgrade to 11 first?
[14:15] <rodd> sfears, 11 isn't lts
[14:15] <wadechandler> Jimu: that stinks. Think about two monitors side by side. You try to rollover the left side of the one on the right to get the menu bar to come up and then change monitors. Too, I just like it at the top with text and not just icons.  :-(
[14:15] <wadechandler> Jimu: thanks for the info
[14:15] <Pici> rodd: You'll need to use do-release-upgrade -d to upgrade from 10.04 to 12.04.
[14:15] <PKKid2> OK, So.. I downloaded and install Ubuntu 12.04 last night.  After the install it never boots.  It doesn't even get to Grub.  Where do I look to try to get this thing running?
[14:15] <ajf> yeah so any idea how to fix my alsa issues? or presumably alsa
[14:15] <ajf> there's no sound in this game I have
[14:15] <Pici> rodd: We won't be enable the normal prompt until 12.04.1 has been released.
[14:16] <rodd> Pici, what does -d stands for?
[14:16] <rodd> oh
[14:16] <Pici> rodd: development.
[14:16] <sfears> ajf, check your sound control panel and make sure the correct card is at the top of the list for each entry.
[14:16] <rodd> Pici, I'll still get a stable version right?
[14:16] <rodd> or do you think I should wait for the 0.1?
[14:17] <Jimu> wadechandler: i don't have 2 monitors, but i think they have or are including the ability to have the launcher on the opposite side on the "other" monitor
[14:17] <WhereIsMySpoon> After installing certain packages (wine for example) I get this error/warning (dont know which it is) pop up: /sbin/ldconfig.real: /usr/lib/libglib-2.0.so.0 is not a symbolic link - is this a problem? If so, how to fix it?
[14:17] <ajf> sfears: it is, but I get this error: 'ALSA lib pcm.c:2217:(snd_pcm_open_noupdate) Unknown PCM default'
[14:17] <Jimu> wadechandler: i follow omgubuntu.co.uk on Google+, see lots of articles I never have a reason to try, but I remember them a bit ;)
[14:18] <WhereIsMySpoon> This error happens after "ldconfig deferred procesing now taking place" is printed
[14:18] <ajf> ALSA lib pcm.c:2217:(snd_pcm_open_noupdate) Unknown PCM default
[14:18] <wadechandler> Jimu: yep, spent a lot of time with those things. Wound up just a bunch of time spent. Nothing worked out except uninstalling Unity and just using Gnome.
[14:18] <ajf> any help at all?
[14:19] <stapper> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1966727
[14:19] <wadechandler> Which is sad because if I could customize unity a bit I would probably love it.
[14:19] <walidvb> would anyone by any chance know where /dev/video0 could be on a mac..? (plz don't hit me)
[14:19] <Bender> can you give me a little help with remote control hotkeys? Everything works but not the 4 Hotkeys to launch mediaplayer etc etc. I have set the CTRL + ALT + A to launch rythmbox but i starts only from real keyboard and not from remote control. I have also put this strings into xorg.conf : Section "ServerFlags"
[14:19] <Bender>     Option "DontVTSwitch"  "on"
[14:19] <Bender> EndSection  in order to prevent the hotkey to leave x windows (like ctrl+alt+f1).
[14:20] <WhereIsMySpoon> walidvb, http://stackoverflow.com/questions/4515875/does-snow-leopard-have-dev-video-how-to-access-webcam-from-terminal
[14:20] <stapper> From remote you should capture keyboard
[14:20] <WhereIsMySpoon> http://apple.stackexchange.com/questions/16908/mac-webcam-get-the-device
[14:20] <WhereIsMySpoon> try to google ;)
[14:20] <walidvb> WhereIsMySpoon: thanks, sorry i couldn't google that myself
[14:20] <WhereIsMySpoon> walidvb, i googled "/dev/video0 on mac"
[14:21] <WhereIsMySpoon> walidvb, no worries, just try that first next time :)
[14:21] <papachan> where are the nautilus icons?
[14:21] <walidvb> haha i had complicated queries that had no good results
[14:21] <walidvb> sometimes it's better to keep things simple ;)
[14:22] <WhereIsMySpoon> :D
[14:22] <joemppe> anyone able to help me with my RAID install problem?
[14:23] <diftow> Update was interrupted. mount and dpkg error. Need to disable read only from recovery console. How to do this?
[14:24] <cutiyar> i want to upgrade from 11.10 t0 12.04 throught usb or Cd but which ubuntu i have to download alternative or Desktop?
[14:24] <hariom> Does cpanel works in Ubuntu?
[14:24] <steveccc_> whats the quick way to get a terminal in unity (new to unity)
[14:25] <sary> running  ubuntu 12.04 on my 2nd machine On a system boot I get the message "mountall: Plymouth command failed" and " mountall: Disconnected from plymouth" .
[14:25] <yeik> why did it ask me for a new password for mysql when i upgraded to 12.04?
[14:25] <sary> steveccc_: shift + Alt + N ?
[14:25] <wadechandler> Well, I have had a good 2 year run on Ubuntu. I finally moved over from openSuSE because it really seemed to work better for multiple monitor setup until Unity landed on me. Before that Red Hat, and before that Slackware. Seems to me that Ubuntu is going to be the Linux for single monitor devices such as a laptop (consumer not developer) or some tablet. I think it will be great on consumer type devices which it seems they are r
[14:26] <cutiyar> i want to upgrade from 11.10 t0 12.04 throught usb or Cd but which ubuntu i have to download alternative or Desktop?
[14:26] <WhereIsMySpoon> wadechandler, i heard archlinux is good
[14:26] <WhereIsMySpoon> if you want a switch
[14:27] <WhereIsMySpoon> After installing certain packages (wine for example) I get this error/warning (dont know which it is) pop up: /sbin/ldconfig.real: /usr/lib/libglib-2.0.so.0 is not a symbolic link - is this a problem? If so, how to fix it?
[14:27] <magarwal> Which graphics card is preferred for ubuntu (multiple monitors), i have got many issues with nvidia
[14:27] <Jimu> I knew how to edit unity-2d's Launcher QML files in 11.10, but not now. Anyone know where they went/how to set something like tileSize?
[14:27] <wadechandler> WhereIsMySpoon: I might give it a whirl. Thanks.
[14:27] <jrib> wadechandler: you can alse just install whatever gui environment you want on ubuntu and run that
[14:27] <WhereIsMySpoon> amd is preferred for multi monitor setup on ubuntu
[14:27] <WhereIsMySpoon> cause nvidia didnt pull their finger out and write good drivers
[14:27] <uictamale1> except that you have a 50/50 chance you won't boot at all :P
[14:27] <sary> in a 2nd attempt to reboot i get " Disk drive with UUID = # not yet ready or present " .
[14:28] <stapper> Is there a way to let sound of one user play systemwide?
[14:28] <Jimu> wadechandler: what jrib said, you can just "sudo apt-get install gnome-shell" it's really easy to add
[14:28] <magarwal> WhereIsMySpoon, any particular which you suggest for 4 monitors
[14:28] <WhereIsMySpoon> magarwal, no idea
[14:28] <WhereIsMySpoon> google it
[14:28] <magarwal> WhereIsMySpoon, :)
[14:28] <sontek> Is there some good starter docs on writing an upstart script? I need to launch an app I wrote on booth.  Would prefer it to run instead of gdm but could settle for autologin and then launch
[14:28] <jrib> !upstart | sontek
[14:28] <jrib> sontek: see the upstart cookbook
[14:29]  * WhereIsMySpoon wishes he had an answer D:
[14:29] <ludlow> would everyone stop downloading ubuntu 12.04 so I can perform my system update  :)
[14:30] <jrib> ludlow: use a local mirror
[14:30] <ludlow> jrib, how?  :)
[14:30] <jrib> ludlow: go to software properties
[14:30] <ludlow> oh ok thanks
[14:30] <sfears> ajf: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1937125
[14:30] <WhereIsMySpoon> lol lud :P
[14:31] <stapper> How can I play sound on VM with rdesktop when user is logged off
[14:31] <amanATdesk> Hi
[14:31] <wadechandler> jrib: what then is the purpose of the distro? I can get updates of CentOS 6.2 until 2020. Gnome Shell has AMD chipset issues. Gnome Devs blew that one up. Instead of using instructions which are documented to break AMD chipsets and they won't work around it. I'm using AMD A8 Quad Core and Loads of RAM on a laptop and it didn't break the bank to get that power. Runs and works like a champ without gnome shell and plain gnome. How
[14:31] <ajf> sfears: thanks
[14:31] <kelvinella> hi i can boot to desktop in liveCD but cant after i install it
[14:31] <kelvinella> ubuntu 12.04
[14:32] <jrib> wadechandler: your message was truncated at "How"
[14:32] <stapper> kelvinella: try to reinstall
[14:32] <amanATdesk> anyone in here using 12.04 yet? I'm finding it tricky to change the default font colour for the system. The text in Settings etc is all white and so very difficult to read.
[14:32] <wadechandler> Stinking pidgin: However, on the Unity point, once I start getting away from the distro setups certain things in Ubuntu lose their luster to me but I will have to think about the update center. I do like not having to build everything myself, but I think CentOS will give me that as well, and if multi-monitor setup and my chipset works out....hard not to use it.
[14:32] <juniour> hi welcome for 12.04 LTS
[14:32] <kelvinella> stapper, reinstall many time
[14:33] <amanATdesk> I also notice that none of the shell extensions/themes are working.
[14:33] <juniour> hi
[14:33] <jrib> wadechandler: use what works for you; just letting you know you don't have to use unity if you don't like it on ubuntu
[14:33] <WhereIsMySpoon> hemad, although he does have a point :P
[14:35] <Dougie187> In case anyone was curious, booting/installing *from* the wrong device was my issue.
[14:36] <Dougie187> Thanks for the help though!
[14:37] <Jimu> so you hold the Super key to see the keyboard shortcuts? it's not working for me, just see the numbers on the launcher...
[14:37] <mystblade9> Is the problem where the liveCD hangs at boot because you have an nVidia card fixed yet?
[14:38] <zykotick9> !nomodeset | mystblade9
[14:38] <mystblade9> zykotick9: How do I use nomodeset on the liveCD? It just boots straight into a purple screen.
[14:38] <zykotick9> mystblade9: good question, is it no covered in the link?  sorry, i don't use the GUI installer so not sure.
[14:38] <heckman> Anybody having trouble with do-release-upgrade on Ubuntu 10.04 => Ubuntu 12.04?
[14:39] <violinappren> mystblade9: press shift
[14:39] <jrib> heckman: best to just ask your question
[14:39] <heckman> That is my question.
[14:39] <heckman> I'm getting no release found
[14:40] <ogra_> heckman, thats because this will only be enabled for 12.04.1
[14:40] <mystblade9> violinappren: Holding shift while booting the LiveCD takes me to GRUB?
[14:40] <heckman> That's a new change?
[14:40] <ogra_> heckman, use the -d switch
[14:40] <ogra_> heckman, nope, has always been like that for LTS to LTS
[14:40] <zykotick9> ogra_: -d development?  are you sure about that?  heckman
[14:40] <violinappren> mystblade9: takes you to a screen where you can edit the kernel parameters or select a different "mode" for booting ubuntu
[14:40] <ogra_> zykotick9, yes, i am
[14:41] <mystblade9> violinappren: Thanks, i'll try that :)
[14:41] <zykotick9> ogra_: ok
[14:41] <Zermann> Hi, i have a problem with my zenbook ux31. With 12.04 the right touch button is diabled. from this web page http://www.theorangenotebook.com/2012/02/call-for-testing-clickpad.html i got two script that solve the problem. But the config disappear after a reboot. is there a way to keep the change after a rebbot?
[14:41] <amanATdesk> Anyone know how to change the font-colour on nautilus in gnome 3/ubuntu 12.04. It's defaulted to white after the upgrade and I can't read directories/menus
[14:42] <Daghdha> Hi, i just upgraded to 11.10 and i now have to logging when i boot. I dont want that i want desktop to just open. It may have started yesterday when i upgraded 10.10 to 11.04. I just did 11.04 to 11.010. How can i make it log in automagically?
[14:42] <violinappren> Zermann: .bashrc
[14:42] <Jonno> Hi Guys, I'm running a 10.04 LTS VPS and I can't for the life of me find any decent level of logfiles. Am I missing anything?
[14:43] <Zermann> violinappren, isn't it only for a single user?
[14:43] <kelvinella> http://dl.dropbox.com/u/2456598/Photo%2027-4-12%2010%2040%2034%20PM.jpg
[14:43] <WhereIsMySpoon> why would you ever not want a login prompt when you start up the computer? isnt that stupidly unsafe?
[14:43] <kelvinella> please look at my screen how to fix it?
[14:43] <zykotick9> WhereIsMySpoon: +1
[14:43] <kelvinella> dell mini 1010 + ubuntu 12.04
[14:43] <violinappren> Zermann: yes, use /etc/rc.local for system wide
[14:44] <Zermann> violinappren, ok thank you
[14:44] <xilo> i accidently deleted my resolv.conf file.. how do i regenerate it?
[14:44] <jonathan_s> hi
[14:44] <WhereIsMySpoon> zykotick9 - thanks, i thought i was missing something :P
[14:44] <violinappren> Daghdha: use "Users and Groups" application
[14:45] <testi> How can I open a new window of the application number 10?
[14:45] <violinappren> xilo: it will be generated next time you reboot, if you use dhcp
[14:45] <jonathan_s> im having problems with firefox after a upgrade
[14:45] <thephantom> http://pastebin.com/Sze1GneH should this disk have been formated with 4096 logical sectors?
[14:45] <xilo> violinappren: i do, and it's not getting regenerated
[14:45] <Daghdha> thank you violinappren
[14:45] <jonathan_s> i trying to reinstall and i get this: Please restart all running instances of firefox, or you will experience problems
[14:45] <WhereIsMySpoon> jonathan_s: so do that?
[14:46] <violinappren> xilo:  try this command manually: sudo dhclient eth0   # where eth0 is your interface name
[14:46] <xilo> thanks that did it
[14:46] <mystblade9> WhereIsMySpoon: Some people opt for convenience..
[14:46] <violinappren> jonathan_s:  it's a normal message, just restart firefox
[14:47] <testi> Ah, I have it: with right click
[14:47] <jonathan_s> the same window apppear again
[14:47] <Maximo> hi
[14:47] <Dougie187> ok, time for my next issue. lol
[14:47] <violinappren> jonathan_s:  what window?
[14:47] <Maximo> need to find out if I can upgrade to LTS 12.04?
[14:47] <Maximo> thanks
[14:47] <WhereIsMySpoon> jonathan_s then try to force close it - "ps -fx | grep firefox" then kill the offending process(es)
[14:47] <Dougie187> For some reason, with my nvidia drivers the 3d version of unity has no user interface
[14:48] <kelvinella> http://dl.dropbox.com/u/2456598/Photo%2027-4-12%2010%2047%2019%20PM.jpg
[14:48] <mystblade9> WhereIsMySpoon, jonathan_s: killall -9 firefox
[14:48] <kelvinella> video card problem??
[14:49] <acicula> Maximo: whats your current ubuntu version
[14:49] <WhereIsMySpoon> mystblade9 - true :D
[14:49] <violinappren> Maximo: reinstalling is usually less problematic
[14:49] <Maximo> is it?
[14:49] <kelvinella> http://dl.dropbox.com/u/2456598/Photo%2027-4-12%2010%2048%2040%20PM.jpg
[14:49] <kelvinella> please help
[14:49] <Daghdha> howw do i update in this new window manager? (11.10)
[14:49] <Maximo> how do I findout which one I have?
[14:49] <acicula> Maximo: i've never had much issues upgrading
[14:50] <OerHeks> kelvinella, looks like you have a double videocard connected tru sli-bridge ?
[14:50] <EuropaCar> hello can someone help me with my update to 12.04
[14:50] <violinappren> Maximo: lsb_release -a
[14:50] <FlimFlamMan> upgrade resulted in no wireless and no synaptic touchpad ...  :-(
[14:50] <EuropaCar> my update is currently stuck
[14:50] <acicula> Maximo: in the menu there is an about or help option, or type lsb_release -a in a console
[14:50] <kelvinella> OerHeks, it has no problem in ubuntu 11.04
[14:50] <Maximo> ok
[14:50] <kelvinella> or earlier
[14:50] <Maximo> let me see that...
[14:50] <irendal> Hello, i see on the ubuntu webpage that "32 bits" is the recommended install... Why is that?
[14:50] <Maximo> bb
[14:51] <jonathan_s> mystblade: still the problem
[14:51] <EuropaCar> my update to 12.04 is stuck at downloading the flashplugin installer
[14:51] <zykotick9> irendal: most people don't have 64bit systems... thus 32bit will work for most/all people.
[14:51] <ogra_> irendal, because a survey showed that still more than a third of ubuntu users has 32bit only HW
[14:51] <violinappren> !64 | irendal
[14:51] <EuropaCar> i didn't have internet at the time so it couldn't download
[14:51] <irendal> ok, but with any recent hardware, 64bits is recommended?
[14:51] <WhereIsMySpoon> irendal, if you have the correct hardware, then yes
[14:51] <WhereIsMySpoon> if not, it wont work
[14:51] <zykotick9> irendal: do you have more then 4GB or RAM?
[14:51] <thiebaude> !pae
[14:52] <ogra_> if you have HW that can make use of it, use the amd64 images
[14:52] <zykotick9> irendal: PAE is a "hack"
[14:52] <irendal> well, any modern processor is 64 bits I think
[14:52] <heckman> PAE works, regardless.
[14:52] <EuropaCar> are my messages coming through?
[14:52]  * ogra_ has a ton of modern processors that arent :)
[14:52] <irendal> really?
[14:52] <Maximo> I have 10.04.0 LTS
[14:52] <Guest26155> Scrubbington_: Can you login just at console, but not at KDE login screen? Are you sure you have the right password?
[14:52] <irendal> which ones ogra_ ?
[14:53] <zykotick9> irendal: many of the Atoms are 32bit
[14:53] <thiebaude> heckman, yep and i installed the 32  bit for my 64 bit machine and the pae kernel is automatically installed
[14:53] <irendal> I don't know that much about hardware in truth.
[14:53] <irendal> i see
[14:53] <ogra_> irendal, some intel ones, all ARM ones i work with etc :)
[14:53] <shunyiyi> n
[14:53] <EuropaCar> can someone please tell me if my messages can be read?
[14:53] <irendal> but i3 i5 i7 etc. are 64 bits right?
[14:53] <jrib> EuropaCar: yes...
[14:53] <acicula> irendal: yes
[14:53] <EuropaCar> ok
[14:53] <irendal> ok
[14:53] <ogra_> right
[14:53] <jrib> EuropaCar: try pastebinning the full message you are seeing from update-manager
[14:53] <EuropaCar> can someone help me with my update to 12.04? it's stuck
[14:53] <Maximo> acicula: have 10.04.4 LTS
[14:54] <EuropaCar> ok
[14:54] <violinappren> EuropaCar: reinstall
[14:54] <acicula> Maximo: you can update from lts to lts, so you can upgrade to 12.4 from that. just make sure to backup data first
[14:54] <violinappren> irendal: 64bit iso works equally well, just that the hardware is not (yet?) very popular, end of the story
[14:54] <fl1bbl3> nice install iso downloaded in 4m 7s
[14:55] <EuropaCar> there's no message, it is just at the stage of: "flashplugin-installer: downloading http://archive.canonical.com/pool/partner/a/adobe-flashplugin/adobe-flashplugin_11.2.202.233.orig.tar.gz"
[14:55] <EuropaCar> somehow my wireless stopped working during the update
[14:55] <Maximo> backup data first and wehere to I go for that?
[14:55] <vuongdothanhhuy> EuropaCar: so you can just untick the flash update and let others updates go.
[14:55] <acicula> Maximo: the stuff thats in your user directory
[14:55] <EuropaCar> there's no where to click
[14:55] <acicula> !backup
[14:55] <Daghdha> I can't find how to update in 11.10, where is the update application hidden?
[14:56] <EuropaCar> i see the message in the terminal but there are no options for me to click
[14:56] <jrib> !upgrade | Daghdha
[14:56] <Maximo> how do I force upgrade to 12.04LTS?
[14:56] <uictamale1> hey all, I can't seem to get the virutalbox guest additions installed correctly... it looks like it installs right, but 'seamless mode' isn't available in the host menu
[14:56] <jrib> Maximo: why do you need to "force" it?
[14:57] <violinappren> uictamale1: are you using a windows guest ?
[14:57] <jrib> uictamale1: try #vbox if no one here knows
[14:57] <uictamale1> windows host
[14:57] <uictamale1> 12.04 guest
[14:57] <revagomes> I just updated to 12.04 but I cant use X anymore. There is something wrong with Nvidia drivers?
[14:57] <EuropaCar> vuongdothanhhuy: could u explain how to untick the particular update?
[14:57] <Maximo> don't let me do it from the manager....
[14:57] <zorkon> looking for pointers - upgraded from 11.10 to 12.04 on Thinkpad W520 and all pointer/mouse devices are now broken ... pointers are 'stuck' to the lefthand side of the screen basically making mouse device unusable ... i see updated x11 conf files with mouse config commented out with references to consiole-setup, but nothing i see tere seems to reference mouse device ... where should i be looking?
[14:57] <violinappren> uictamale1: doesnt work for this combo, it works vice versa
[14:57] <Top-Roast> can anyone please help a new apache2 user? i am on ubuntu 12.04
[14:57] <FlimFlamMan> after upgrade i have lost wireless networking and touchpad on my notebook (System76 Darter Ultra).  any suggestions?
[14:57] <uictamale1> violinappren: it worked fine before upgrading to 12.04 in the guest..
[14:58] <Maximo> tell me babe steps to upgrade please...
[14:58] <violinappren> uictamale1: i see, try #vbox then or file a bug
[14:58] <Top-Roast> does anyone know how to allow external access to my apache2 server? it works for http://localhost but not externally
[14:58] <Eno_> Hi, is #xen the only channel for Xen on Ubuntu?
[14:58] <violinappren> !ask | Top-Roast
[14:58] <thephantom> http://pastebin.com/Sze1GneH should this disk have been formated with 4096 logical sectors?
[14:59] <WhereIsMySpoon> violinappren i dont see how he didnt ask a question
[14:59] <WhereIsMySpoon> :S
[14:59] <jrib> Top-Roast: is your server sitting behind a router?
[14:59] <EuropaCar> can someone help me finish my update from 11.10 to 12.04? it is stuck at there's no message, it is just at the stage of: "flashplugin-installer: downloading http://archive.canonical.com/pool/partner/a/adobe-flashplugin/adobe-flashplugin_11.2.202.233.orig.tar.gz"
[14:59] <violinappren> Eno_: also #ubuntu-server
[14:59] <Top-Roast> jrib yes it is
[14:59] <irendal> Top-Roast, you might have to configure your router to forward connection to the port 80
[14:59] <jrib> Top-Roast: you must forward port 80 on your router to your server with apache
[14:59] <Eno_> violinappren: Thank you sir ;)
[14:59] <MonkeyDust> Top-Roast  you need to forward ports to your pc
[15:00] <Maximo> jrib how do I upgrade no good at this...
[15:00] <Maximo> thanks
[15:00] <jrib> !upgrade | Maximo
[15:00] <MonkeyDust> Top-Roast  it's inside your router
[15:00] <Maximo> ok
[15:00] <rymate1234> guies
[15:00] <EuropaCar> can someone help me finish my update from 11.10 to 12.04? it is stuck at there's no message, it is just at the stage of: "flashplugin-installer: downloading http://archive.canonical.com/pool/partner/a/adobe-flashplugin/adobe-flashplugin_11.2.202.233.orig.tar.gz"
[15:00] <Top-Roast> ok.. if i just pull out the router and connect directly to my ISP, will my page appear to the public then?
[15:00] <rymate1234> how do I remove the"system problem detected" messages
[15:00] <violinappren> Top-Roast: WhereIsMySpoon: sorry, i didnt see the second line
[15:00] <jrib> EuropaCar: please don't repeat so often
[15:01] <EuropaCar> ok
[15:01] <WhereIsMySpoon> Top-Roast dont pull out the router, just forward the ports
[15:01] <irendal> I have another question. Is there an easy way to encrypt an entire hard drive with ubuntu?
[15:01] <Daghdha> i have no system menu jrib
[15:01] <Top-Roast> ok but im not sure how to do that
[15:01] <violinappren> Top-Roast: do you know what is port forwarding?
[15:01] <WhereIsMySpoon> Top-Roast, google your router model + port forwarding
[15:01] <Top-Roast> ok thank you
[15:01] <jrib> Daghdha: what ubuntu version?
[15:01] <revagomes> I just updated to 12.04 but I cant use X anymore. Some advice? I already googled for this issue but nothing have helped me...
[15:01] <WhereIsMySpoon> like "myModel v3894 port forwarding"
[15:01] <Top-Roast> ill try that now
[15:01] <Daghdha> 11.10
[15:02] <WhereIsMySpoon> there isnt a system menu on 11.10
[15:02] <WhereIsMySpoon> because derp
[15:02] <Daghdha> The link refers to it.
[15:02] <normatif> Top-Roast: read your router's manual, it should mention about it
[15:02] <thephantom> http://pastebin.com/Sze1GneH should this disk have been formated with 4096 logical sectors?
[15:02] <jrib> Daghdha: start update-manager
[15:02] <irendal> oh, one last question. I couldn't stand the new interface in ubuntu 11.10, so I used Xubuntu instead. Is it any better in 12.04?
[15:03] <steveccc_> is anyone here a truecrypt user? i was looking for advise on the different encryption algorithms and the truecrypt room is quite quiet
[15:03] <Daghdha> where is that icon jre?
[15:03] <WhereIsMySpoon> irendal, me too :P
[15:03] <jrib> Daghdha: I have no idea
[15:03] <MonkeyDust> !ports| Top-Roast
[15:03] <vuongdothanhhuy> Top-Roast: if your router support UPnP, enable it, would free you from config.
[15:03] <Daghdha> started, ok thanks.
[15:03] <EuropaCar> does anyone have a suggestion?
[15:03] <WhereIsMySpoon> UPnP is a pile of awful
[15:03] <mystblade9> irendal: I haven't yet used Ubuntu 12.04 fully, but I tried it for a short time in a Virtual Machine and I am already familiar with Ubuntu 11.10's Unity. But I was seriously impressed by the new Unity.
[15:03] <husien> hello guys! what the command code for searching all php.ini file in my ubuntu 11.10?
[15:03] <Top-Roast> ok i found out how to login and forward thank you everyone
[15:04] <irendal> mystblade9, ok... I guess i'll give it a try, at least
[15:04] <mystblade9> irendal: Once you're logged in, hold Cmd. And enter keyboard shortcut paradise.
[15:04] <WhereIsMySpoon> mystblade9, hmm?
[15:04]  * UnwinnableDonB is back (gone 01:03:57)
[15:04] <mystblade9> I mean, win
[15:04] <mystblade9> sorry, I'm using an Apple keyboard.
[15:04] <WhereIsMySpoon> oh
[15:04] <mystblade9> the Windows key.
[15:04] <WhereIsMySpoon> :D
[15:05] <WhereIsMySpoon> im not sure i want to bother with 12.whateverit is
[15:05] <BG> ciao
[15:05] <EuropaCar> does anyone know how to skip a step during distro update?
[15:05] <BG> !list
[15:05] <WhereIsMySpoon> 11.10 was so bad
[15:05] <violinappren> husien: all files name php.ini or searching INSIDE that file?
[15:05] <normatif> I'm doing do-release-upgrade to 12.04 and it intermittently stops with "Waiting for headers" message. Is this normal, or some bottleneck on server?
[15:05] <RobinJ1995> I reported a bug on Launchpad, how can I help get it fixed quicker? This is really starting to piss me off...
[15:05] <husien> violinappren,  all file name php.ini
[15:05] <jrib> RobinJ1995: visit #ubuntu-bugs
[15:06] <violinappren> husien: sudo find / -name php.ini
[15:07] <eltigre> hey, I just upgraded to 12.04 and sound totally stopped working...
[15:07] <softcoder> can someone help me with software-center?
[15:07] <jrib> softcoder: be more specific
[15:07] <softcoder> I cannot do a review of a package
[15:07] <BG> !list.
[15:07] <softcoder> it hangs at signing-in
[15:07]  * rymate1234 is sudo apt-getting dist-upgrae
[15:08] <karthick87> How to restrict users installing packages in ubuntu ?
[15:08] <softcoder> from console
[15:08] <softcoder> after launching software-center it says: 2012-04-27 08:05:51,004 - softwarecenter.backend.reviews - WARNING - Could not get usefulness from server, no username in config file
[15:08] <eltigre> When trying to start pulseaudio I get: symbol lookup error: /usr/lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/libsndfile.so.1: undefined symbol: vorbis_version_string
[15:08] <zykotick9> karthick87: don't add the use to the admin group (which allows sudo)
[15:08] <soulnafein> karthick87, limiting sudo for those users?
[15:08] <eltigre> is Ubuntu 12.04 supposed to have  support for audio-output?
[15:08] <softcoder> then when picking review package: (software-center:16790): Gtk-WARNING **: Unable to show 'none': Operation not supported
[15:08] <karthick87> soulnafein: yes
[15:09] <mandza> is there anyone who is pro with html and css
[15:09] <softcoder> and the popup sits forever saying signing in
[15:09] <mandza> ????????????????????????????**
[15:09] <mandza> i need help
[15:09] <irendal> mandza, wrong chan.
[15:09] <jrib> mandza: #html and #css can help you with that
[15:09] <EuropaCar> does anyone know how to skip a step in distro upgrading from 10.10 to 11.04 ? it's supposed to be 'installing upgrades' but is trying to download flashplugin
[15:09] <thiebaude> !help
[15:09] <jrib> EuropaCar: you cannot skip (not supported) unless you are on LTS
[15:09] <eltigre> EuropaCar, don't upgrade if you need audio... audio is broken in 12.04
[15:10] <UnwinnableDonB> I'm trying to get my close/min/max buttons on the left in gnome-shell on 12.04 following these directions, but it's not taking: http://geekum.wordpress.com/2011/05/25/how-to-move-close-button-in-debian-gnome-shell-to-left-like-ubuntu/ Any thoughts?
[15:10] <shazzr> Will native support for fingerprint sensors be avaliable in 12.10? Would be nice.
[15:10] <mandza> thank you jrib
[15:10] <EuropaCar> so if i'm in the middle of the upgrade is there anything i can do?
[15:10] <jrib> eltigre: please don't make general statements like that that are not true
[15:10] <MonkeyDust> eltigre  meaning, i'm listening to music right now
[15:10] <husien> violinappren, find 'php.ini' nosuch file or directory
[15:10] <jrib> EuropaCar: what do you want to do?
[15:10] <nightshadow> hi everybody
[15:11] <eltigre> just wanting to elicit any response....
[15:11] <jrib> eltigre: that gets you the wrong kind of attention...
[15:11] <EuropaCar> i am stuck in the middle of the update from 10.04 to 11.10 and it's hung on a step
[15:11] <jatt> is there a guide to install the radeon property drivers on 12.04
[15:11] <nannes> How can I start my ubuntu in "safe graphic mode"? I'm having a problem with X.
[15:11] <jatt> my laptop is overheating since I upgraded to 12.04
[15:11] <EuropaCar> and i wanted to see if i could get past it because it's just 'downloading flashplugin'
[15:11] <nightshadow> anyone used backbox before?
[15:11] <danielchamorro> hi everyone , I just update to 12.04 but I keep getting disconnected to my wifi and I can update from the software updater.....
[15:11] <jatt> I suspect is the graphic card since no process with high cpu utilization are running
[15:11] <danielchamorro> just from the terminal
[15:11] <jrib> EuropaCar: is it still downloading?  You can safely cancel and try to resume the download.  Make sure you're using a local mirror in your software sources
[15:12] <danielchamorro> running a Dell Mini 10v
[15:12] <MonkeyDust> EuropaCar  fastes and easiest is to fresh install ubuntu
[15:12] <danielchamorro> hmmm
[15:12] <nightshadow> I just downgraded from 12.04 on a dell mini 10v too many bugs
[15:12] <EuropaCar> i don't think it's still downloading, there's no prgoress indicator but there's nothing in the terminal to tell me what's going on
[15:12] <jjp> Hi; is-it possible to activate sound output on multiple devices simultaneously ? Typically, I wanted to display a video for my kids in a train, each one with USB headphones
[15:12] <danielchamorro> I have a dual boot with Mac OSX so I dont want to reinstall
[15:13] <EuropaCar> it has already 'downloaded all the packages' and it is stuck during the installation of those packages
[15:13] <softcoder> anyone?
[15:13] <EuropaCar> but one of the 'installation' steps required internet to download flashplugin
[15:13] <EuropaCar> and it's stuck there..
[15:13] <EuropaCar> i don't think i can safely abort at this stage
[15:13] <tbrown> DanielChamorro: I have a snow leopard disk that is coming to day And I was wondering with the Iboot is it possible to make my pc out of a mac os x
[15:13] <jrib> EuropaCar: please don't use enter so much and try to address users you are speaking to by prefixing what you say with their name
[15:14] <nannes1> How can I start my ubuntu in "safe graphic mode"? I'm having a problem with X.
[15:14] <jrib> EuropaCar: well I don't see much choice for you
[15:14] <danielchamorro> tbrown: I did not use Iboot so I dont know...:(
[15:15] <jrib> EuropaCar: personally, I would stop the upgrade, remove the flashplugin-install package, resume the update
[15:15] <danielchamorro> tbrown: I used the guides at MyDellMini.com
[15:15] <tbrown> danielchamorro: Okay so you got mac os x leopard on your pc
[15:16] <EuropaCar> jrib: i am not using a fresh install and i'm updating from 10.10, can i abort the installation and restart it safely?
[15:16] <Maximo> did all changes and still don't let me upgrade to new Ubuntu12.04LTS...
[15:16] <danielchamorro> yes, its pretty straight forward
[15:16] <Maximo> what can I do?
[15:16] <jeffrash> downloading the 12.04 ISO now, going to do a clean install on my Dell D420
[15:16] <danielchamorro> if u follow the guides
[15:16] <normatif> nannes1: you can start in text mode
[15:16] <jrib> EuropaCar: regardless of whether you can do it "safely", I do not see an alternative for you
[15:16] <Maximo> went to settings did changes and nothing
[15:16] <softcoder> guys i'm on software-center 5.2
[15:17] <danielchamorro> I also added the 2GB ram, I feel the Mini is freezes quite but its running OK now
[15:17] <EuropaCar> jrib: ok, i will give it a go, thanks for your help
[15:17] <ogra_> Maximo, upgrades will only be offered automatically once 12.04.1 is out
[15:17] <nannes1> normatif: no, I need the X started in safe mode, couz in normal mode has serious problems
[15:17] <softcoder> i see here (http://www.ubuntuupdates.org/package/core/precise/main/proposed/software-center) there is a 5.2.1, how do i get it?
[15:17] <tbrown> danielchamorro: So do you have a retail disk of snow leopard or deed you use like ideneb or something like that
[15:17] <danielchamorro> except for Ubuntu....very disappointed
[15:17] <Maximo> ogra: is not out?
[15:17] <ogra_> Maximo, use sudo update.-manager -d (or do-release-upgrade -d)
[15:17] <Maximo> correct?
[15:17] <L3top> EuropaCar... one second
[15:17] <danielchamorro> no, I bought a retail 25£ in Amazon
[15:17] <ogra_> Maximo, 12.04 is out, 12.04.1 isnt
[15:17] <Maximo> mine is LTS
[15:18] <L3top> EuropaCar: nm... was just backreading
[15:18] <tbrown> danielchamorro: Do you think it will be conpatible with AMD Processor
[15:18] <ogra_> right, LTS to LTS upgrades are always only enabled for the .1 releases
[15:18] <softcoder> hmm do i exist in this channel?
[15:18] <zykotick9> !schedule | Maximo if you want to see when .1 comes out
[15:18] <EuropaCar> L3top: so same conclusion? nothing to do but abort and try to upgrade again?
[15:18] <L3top> EuropaCar: to be clear... the flashplugin-installer is a package that downloads the flash plugin on execute
[15:18] <tbrown> softcoder: I fell that way sometimes to. WHat is your Qestion
[15:19] <softcoder> i see here (http://www.ubuntuupdates.org/package/core/precise/main/proposed/software-center) there is a 5.2.1, how do i get it?
[15:19] <jrib> softcoder: what version of ubuntu are you using?
[15:19] <softcoder> precise with latest updates
[15:19] <danielchamorro> tbrown: here is the website with the guides in case u havent seen them: http://www.mydellmini.com/forum/mac-osx-guides/
[15:19] <jrib> softcoder: sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get install software-center
[15:19] <L3top> so what it would be doing is trying to download the flash plugin, which is larger if you have slow internet... I would check that you have an internet connection... and all of that before crushing it.
[15:20] <joethetree> what is the process for java virtual machine called on ubuntu? (javaw on windows)
[15:20] <danielchamorro> Does anyone know why my internet keeps breaking up in Ubuntu 12.4?
[15:20] <L3top> EuropaCar: but I would expect it would bomb out or something.
[15:20] <nannes> How can I start my ubuntu in "safe graphic mode"? I'm having a problem with X.
[15:20] <RobinJ1995> joethetree, java
[15:21] <L3top> nannes: hold shift down on boot, you will get a menu
[15:21] <EuropaCar> L3top: it started trying to download many hours ago and since the upgrade was in the middle of installation phase my internet wasn't working (maybe wireless was still being configured or something). i have since connected using ethernet
[15:21] <case_> hi there, i would like to install ubuntu on a Mac Book Air (not a dual boot, a single boot ubuntu), and thus I'm looking for someone experienced in this field, or with knowledge about rEFit.
[15:21] <danielchamorro> AND my software update application does NOT work :(
[15:21] <nannes> L3top: thanks
[15:21] <ogra_> softcoder, ths is the -proposed archive ... meaning the packages there are in testing mode before they go into -updates ...
[15:21] <jrib> !mac > case_
[15:21] <EuropaCar> L3top: but it looks like connecting to the internet hasn't done the trick, and the installation is still stuck at that step
[15:21] <Dan_E> I installed 12.04 and now i have no dock and no icons, any help?
[15:21] <ogra_> softcoder, you can use -proposed (at your own risk, there often are buggy packages in it) by enabling it in the software properties
[15:21] <joethetree> RobinJ1995: but when i start a java application,  there is only one java process. on windows there would be a java and a javaw process. so, on ubuntu, the java vm is included in the conventional java process?
[15:21] <L3top> have you opened a terminal and checked that you are connected? You may need to sudo /etc/init.d/networking restart EuropaCar
[15:22] <danielchamorro> Case: why "experienced in refit...I have rEFit but is useful only if u r doing a dual boot
[15:22] <danielchamorro> if not
[15:22] <RobinJ1995> joethetree, dunno, think so
[15:22] <Top-Roast> I just set up port forwarding on my router, but I still cant see my website from an external location using apache2 on ubuntu 12.04?
[15:22] <L3top> EuropaCar: open a terminal and ping -c 2 google.com
[15:22] <L3top> That will ping google twice and tell if you have a connection
[15:22] <danielchamorro> u can just boot from the USB or CD and isntall normallly...formatting the MAC OSX drive that is...if u dont mind doing so
[15:22] <nitzs> Top-Roast: is the firewall on?
[15:23] <EuropaCar> L3top: yes, it looks liek i am connected using the ping
[15:23] <GG111> Top-Roast: can you view the site internaly, from your LAN ?
[15:23] <Top-Roast> nitzs, i am not sure i didnt think 12.04 came with a firewall on?
[15:23] <Top-Roast> gg111 yes I can see it using http://localhost
[15:23] <case_> danielchamorro, i've read it was complicated to make a mac boot air to boot on a usb stick, and that rEFit was helping... but i'll try without
[15:23] <GG111> Top-Roast: not from the own machine, from another host on the network
[15:23] <danielchamorro> hmm...I dont see why
[15:24] <danielchamorro> I have a mac at home with Windows and OSX with rEFit
[15:24] <Top-Roast> I can try that now
[15:24] <normatif> Top-Roast: sudo ufw status
[15:24] <Top-Roast> status inactive
[15:24] <danielchamorro> but if I wanted to isntall Ubnutu on an Air I dont see the point
[15:24] <softcoder> software-center is already the newest version.
[15:24] <danielchamorro> rEFit is a boot manager for MAC OSX as far as I know
[15:24] <case_> danielchamorro, i've also a macbookpro dualbooting with rEFit, but i'm a little bit scared to brick the Air if I format completly the harddrive.
[15:24] <softcoder> however mine is 5.2 and the link i posted is 5.2.1
[15:24] <danielchamorro> it overwrites the one in MAC
[15:25] <Top-Roast> my ISP does allow web servers on port 80 so thats not it..
[15:25] <MrKeuner> hello, how can I disable the encrypted home directory that I have enabled during system install? I don't need the contents of home directory to be encrypted anymore
[15:25] <jrib> !encrypt | MrKeuner
[15:25] <EuropaCar> L3top: any last ideas (thanks)
[15:25] <nmittal> Hi.. if i want to use compiz (desktop cube and wobbly windows) which desktop is recommended Unity or Gnome3?
[15:25] <danielchamorro> I see
[15:25] <nitzs> Top-Roast: are you able to ssh into your server from an external source?
[15:26] <WhereIsMySpoon> i wouldnt recommend gnome or unity tbh
[15:26] <danielchamorro> Well, I would just try...I'm that kind of a guy I guess
[15:26] <danielchamorro> but of course, u do ur thing
[15:26] <danielchamorro> :)
[15:26] <Top-Roast> nitzs, i havent tried that yet
[15:26] <nmittal> WhereIsMySpoon, is that for my question?
[15:26] <WhereIsMySpoon> nmittal, sorta
[15:26] <nmittal> WhereIsMySpoon, do i have other choices on 12.04
[15:27] <sary> I'm facing this issue http://askubuntu.com/questions/125527/ubuntu-wont-boot-after-12-04-upgrade-timidity-error
[15:27] <WhereIsMySpoon> nmittal er dunno on 12.04
[15:27] <paniwani> i'm getting an encoding error when trying to install a program on lucid32: https://gist.github.com/2510145 any help?
[15:27] <WhereIsMySpoon> but i have xfce session on 11.04
[15:27] <jrib> MrKeuner: I thought there were explicit instructions there but apparently not.  You can just copy your files somewhere not encrypted (after decrypting), remove the .ecryptfs stuff for your user, then put the files back in the path to your home
[15:27] <case_> danielchamorro, thanks for the clues :)
[15:27] <danielchamorro> If your Air is still in warranty it would be OK to brick it
[15:27] <L3top> EuropaCar: Lets try a couple of things...
[15:27] <nmittal> WhereIsMySpoon, Xubuntu (xfce) channel told me that it doesnt work with multiple monitors
[15:27] <WhereIsMySpoon> i havent tried multi monitor
[15:27] <nmittal> hmm.. ok thanks
[15:27] <WhereIsMySpoon> so that isnt an issue for me
[15:27] <L3top> Well... dpkg is all locked up for the upgrade right?
[15:27] <WhereIsMySpoon> as in i dont need it
[15:28] <L3top> EuropaCar: you are doing an upgrade correct?
[15:28] <montyawesomeness> Yo linux
[15:28] <EuropaCar> L3top: correct
[15:28] <montyawesomeness> Where's my kernel
[15:28] <nitzs> montyawesomeness: what do yo mean by that?
[15:29] <jrib> MrKeuner: actually in the first link there are instructions on how to "remove" the encrypted directory
[15:29] <jorvis> Does anyone know how to go back to nouveau drivers from the nvidia ones using only the command-line?
[15:29] <L3top> hmm... let me think a sec
[15:29] <jrib> jorvis: jockey-text
[15:29] <L3top> montyawesomeness: /lib/modules
[15:29] <Dan_E> I installed 12.04 and now i have no dock and no icons, any help?
[15:30] <nitzs> jorvis: sudo apt-get purge nvidia-current
[15:30] <amit_> In Additional drivesr what should i choose? Nvidia recommened or nvidia  version current updates
[15:30] <eltigre> I'm being ridiculed for using Ubuntu again.... -.-
[15:30] <jorvis> Thanks jrib and nitzs
[15:30] <L3top> jorvis: sudo apt-get remove nvidia*; sudo apt-get install xserver-xorg-video-nouveau
[15:30] <jrib> eltigre: please just stick to support
[15:31] <L3top> jorvis: check that if you have an xorg.conf you change the line Driver           "nvidia"    to Driver            "nouveau"
[15:31] <amit_> Any help for me  which one to choose in Additional drivers, there showing two nvidia options
[15:31] <eltigre> well, audio is broken and I can't find any help on this issue with google yet
[15:31] <MrKeuner> jrib, yep, reading it thank you
[15:31] <nitzs> amit_: choose the recommended option.
[15:32] <amit_> nitzs, Ok but in system informations graphics in unknown
[15:32] <jrib> MrKeuner: also let me suggest renaming things instead of deleting things in case you make a mistake :)
[15:32] <L3top> EuropaCar: you are going to have to ungracefully exit the upgrade I fear.
[15:32] <L3top> Immediately try again EuropaCar, do not reboot
[15:32] <jorvis> L3top: thanks, halfway through it now
[15:32] <EuropaCar> L3top: thanks for your help, here goes nothing
[15:32] <nitzs> yes. it didn't show up for me too.
[15:34] <KittyTeeth> Went to Mozilla Firefox website but cannot find what I need. I am looking for a language pack as an add-on so when I go to websites in foreign language it will translate into english. Can someone help me?
[15:34] <nitzs> amit_: if you see a blank screen during boot up in stead of the animation, you are using the nvidia driver.
[15:34] <syk> hello, i am trying to install ubuntu 12.04 64bit but when i boot from usb i am getting "error prefix not set" and when i select an option it just hangs
[15:34] <ArexBawrin> what's the difference between the desktop and alternate download?
[15:34] <amit_> nitzs, hm blank screen. and what type of anuimation is there
[15:34] <Matthais> hello, I am performing a dist-upgrade from 11.10 to 12.04 (x64), and the distribution upgrade keeps downloading the last file over and over again, in an endless loop.  Any ideas?
[15:34] <ogra_> ArexBawrin, desktop ises a graphical installer and installs usually faster, alternate has more options
[15:35] <amit_> nitzs,  is there something wrong with nvidia that is not showing animation
[15:35] <ArexBawrin> ogra_: Thanks, any links comparing the two or something that shows the options of the alternate dl?
[15:36] <ogra_> ArexBawrin, if you dont plan to set up LVM or RAID i would just go with desktop
[15:36] <nitzs> amit_: no. the driver works perfectly fine except for the boot animation.
[15:36] <amit_> nitzs, ok
[15:36] <ArexBawrin> ogra_: Sounds good, thanks:)
[15:37] <jorvis> L3top: Thanks - I can see my laptop screen again finally.  Hopefully it stays on this time
[15:37] <L3top> :)
[15:38] <KittyTeeth> anyone know of language addon for websites?
[15:38] <cordoval> hi guys after my ubuntu upgrade i now misconfigured my phpadmin
[15:38] <cordoval> now i cannot access it
[15:38] <cordoval> any hint on what could be wrong?
[15:38] <KittyTeeth> firefox
[15:38] <jorvis> L3top: it seemed to be experiencing this bug (https://bugs.freedesktop.org/show_bug.cgi?id=26980) which was closed
[15:38] <NurseDad> can someone help me register on freenode
[15:38] <eNepper> When i try to mount a cifs share after I changed the mtu to 9000 (Jumbo frame) it goes cold, Im able to press ctrl + c to cancel the mount. Is this a known issue or?
[15:39] <jason^> when i'm upgrading from 11.10 to 12.04 apt-get/aptitude keeps downloading linux-firmware over and over again... any reason why it would do that?
[15:39] <ogra_> NurseDad, there is #freenode
[15:39] <EuropaCar> L3top: hmmm.. i have aborted the update and now i restart update manager but it tells me it's unable to get exclusive lock
[15:39] <ogra_> they can help i guess
[15:39] <iceman511> where can i download ubuntu 12.04 netbook edition ?
[15:39] <henrybean> where can i go to find out how to access a generic network server with an apple device?
[15:39] <ogra_> iceman511, there is no such thing anymore
[15:39] <Dan_E> I installed 12.04 and now i have no dock and no icons, any help? Should I try to reinstall 12.04?
[15:39] <henrybean> using a drive attached t o a router
[15:40] <eggsby> hey guys, what is the name of the sound and battery life applet in gnome panel?
[15:40] <EuropaCar> i can't find what is application is running to cause me to be unable to get exclusive lock?
[15:40] <tbrown> danielchamorro: I seen the video on the mac os x on the mini dell that was pritty nice installion I hope I can I have no problem with the drivers with loading the retail disk on my computer I get it today So I never tried it with it yet
[15:40] <eggsby> I know the network is `nm-applet` but what about sound and battery?
[15:40] <L3top> EuropaCar: I tend to do everything through terminal. Perhaps it is trying to cleanup in the background... give it a few minutes. I don't really know the gui very well.
[15:40] <iceman511> ogra_: so i just install the ubuntu desktop edition on a netbook ?
[15:40] <nitzs> jason^: what is the complete name of the package?
[15:41] <L3top> EuropaCar: ps aux | grep dpkg
[15:41] <ogra_> iceman511, right, the unity UI will adapt to the smaller screensize
[15:41] <iceman511> ogra_: but will it overconsume power and be a bit slow ?
[15:41] <iceman511> with resources ?
[15:42] <nannes> My ubuntu 12.04, when I click ShutDown, Halts the system but doesn't power-off the pc
[15:42] <nannes> how can I fix that?
[15:42] <cute_bettong> has anyone been able to run ubuntu 12.04 on a samsung chronos series 7? im having major issues with it
[15:42] <L3top> I would be interested to know if it goes well jorvis. Keep me aprised if you can. Is there a time frame? Or is it days sometimes.
[15:42] <shaneo> hey guys how do i find out if all my usb ports are active i just had an ext-hdd start smoking and wanna make sure the port wasnt affected
[15:42] <shaneo> ...or the board
[15:42] <ogra_> iceman511, the netbook edition only had UI tweaks (which are now in unity) so it wont consume more or less power than the netbook edition did
[15:43] <EvilResistance> cute_bettong, what kind of issues?
[15:43] <iceman511> ogra_: fantastic... I heard there is a derivative of ubuntu for older pc's... any idea ?
[15:45] <nitzs> iceman511: you can try out this for older computers: http://www.lubuntu.com/
[15:45] <CountZ> back
[15:45] <nitzs> http://www.lubuntu.net/ *
[15:45] <cute_bettong> EvilResistance, the cpu fan constantly runs high, and it has issues with the graphics card becasue it's one of those hybrid jobs an ATI with a intel card as well, getting a "fixing recursive fault but reboot is needed!" error and something was hogging cpu at 20-25% then if i moved a window cpu spiked to 100% im worried about my hardware being damaged
[15:45] <iceman511> nitzs: thanks mate :))
[15:45] <CountZ> so how do I get the opengl stuff working with 12.04, has it changed?
[15:45] <CountZ> I have an intel i915 gpu
[15:46] <softcoder> ok please someone tell me how i can manually install this: http://www.ubuntuupdates.org/package/core/precise/main/proposed/software-center
[15:46] <Athanasius> Is there a guide somewhere for migrating from a fully-encrypted home directory and swap space to not using any encryption? I accidentally setup encryption during installation without thinking about the speed ramifications >_<
[15:46] <softcoder> my local version is 5.2 (not 5.2.1 as mentioned in the link)
[15:46] <softcoder> and I beleive i need this bugfix
[15:46] <EvilResistance> cute_bettong, your hardware won't be damaged by CPU at 25% - 60%, does the spike to 100% go back down after a while?
[15:46] <Bender> Can you help me with a remote IR and keyboard shortcut?
[15:46] <EuropaCar> L3top: i ran this command, it outputted a bunch of stuff, but i'm still unable to get exclusive lock
[15:47] <cute_bettong> EvilResistance, yes, once i stop moving the window it drops back down to 20-25% on core 0
[15:47] <wormmd> About to install GRUB on a fresh Lubuntu install, I have a boot partition. Does the GRUB install go there or in the MBR and it'll take care of locating the boot partition on its own?
[15:47] <L3top> EuropaCar: that command just shows you the processes using dpkg, it does not halt them. You will have to start killing processes, which is a bit ugly.
[15:47] <cute_bettong> EvilResistance, but core1 never idles like it should
[15:47] <nitzs> cute_bettong: are you using the official ATI drivers?
[15:48] <L3top> EuropaCar: do you have pastebin installed?
[15:48] <L3top> pastebinit*
[15:48] <EuropaCar> L3top: no i don't
[15:48] <cute_bettong> nitzs, yes downloaded them from the amd/ati website
[15:48] <L3top> shame.
[15:49] <sweb> i have an errur during apt-get install http://paste.ubuntu.com/950053/
[15:49] <nitzs> wormmd: if you want your lubuntu system to install a new bootloader, install it to mbr. if you don't want to mess up the existing bootloader, install it to the partition.
[15:49] <L3top> can you copy and paste the output of that ps command to pastebin EuropaCar
[15:49] <EuropaCar> L3top: hmm so i have to go one by one and kill each of these processes?
[15:49] <CountZ> ah, my opengl stuff is already working out of the box
[15:49] <cute_bettong> nitzs, the other thing is that the video card dosen't show up in the gui hardware manager as being there EVEN though the drivers are installed correctly
[15:49] <EuropaCar> L3top: ok
[15:49] <L3top> EuropaCar: I would feel more comfortable looking at them.
[15:49] <sweb> how can i fix it ?
[15:49] <softcoder> anyone here can help me?
[15:49] <softcoder> ok please someone tell me how i can manually install this: http://www.ubuntuupdates.org/package/core/precise/main/proposed/software-center
[15:50] <softcoder> my local version is 5.2 (not 5.2.1 as mentioned in the link)
[15:50] <Wolfsherz> hi, changing mouse sensitivity does not seem to have any effect at all, is that true? my mouse moves way to fast, and i set the setting to the lowest possible...
[15:50] <wormmd> nitzs, thanks. I expected to blow away the old bootloader.
[15:50] <L3top> sweb did you do an apt-get update prior to attempting to install?
[15:50] <wylde> !patience | softcoder
[15:50] <EuropaCar> L3top: hmm does this work: http://pastebin.com/yNhV5WXk
[15:50] <cute_bettong> nitzs, i really want to use ubuntu on my laptop but this is a production machene and im worried about stability, with the gui spontanisouly throwing me out into CLI it's become quite a problem to where i had to switch back to windoze becasue i coulden't figure out the problem and am worried about hardware damage
[15:51] <nitzs> cute_bettong: what happens when you use the drivers that originally came with ubuntu?
[15:51] <jason^> nitzs: it keeps downloading linux-firmware
[15:51] <jason^> linux-firmware amd64 1.79
[15:51] <sweb> L3top: i want to install packes from terminal
[15:52] <y0om4> the dashbar in 12.04 does not auto hide like it did in 11.10
[15:52] <L3top> EuropaCar: sudo kill 16708
[15:52] <intgr> Hi, I have a disk image of an old Ubuntu install. How do I figure out which packages were explicitly installed (i.e. not installed due to dependencies)
[15:52] <L3top> sweb: sudo apt-get update     and try again
[15:52] <intgr> I guess it's in /var/lib/dpkg somewhere, any ideas?
[15:52] <sweb> L3top: yeah ofcourse
[15:52] <wormmd> Now it's just a matter of breaking out of the installer, booting up a live disk, chrooting in and running an emergency GRUB fix there since I now have no internet access :) Thanks, guys, y'all are awesome!
[15:52] <y0om4> do any of you have this problem where the dashbar in 12.04 does not auto hide and the dashbar in 11.10 did auto hide?
[15:53] <L3top> Well that was the question I asked... did you update...
[15:53] <cute_bettong> nitzs, if i use the graphics that come with ubuntu, i can't play any of my games, becasue the first option in the ati restricted drivers dosen't work, and the second one the plain FGLRX dosen't contain hardware acelleration, at least....i coulden't get it to work
[15:53] <sweb> L3top: after installation packages `gnome-shell` and `gnome-common` problem appear
[15:53] <L3top> EuropaCar: ps aux | grep dpkg   again
[15:53] <EuropaCar> L3top: that seems to have worked, update manager is now doing a partial upgrade
[15:53] <L3top> good
[15:53] <OerHeks> y0om4, install myunity to enable auto-hide & settings
[15:53] <cdavis> y0om4: I think that is by design
[15:53] <sgerbino> has anyone upgraded their server 10.04->12.04? Is it gravy to do that?
[15:54] <Top-Roast> Does anyone have any ideas why apache2 webserver works on my local network but not externally? I have set router up for port forwarding
[15:54] <Top-Roast> I am using ubuntu 12.04 with nothing else fancy
[15:54] <dweez> I'm wanting to upgrade to 12.04 but i want to use my uni's mirror.  how do I go about doing that?  Can it be done through Update manager or do I need to do it through apt-get?
[15:54] <zykotick9> sgerbino: the fact that LTS->LTS upgrades aren't planned until 12.04.1 might suggest something... just sayin'
[15:55] <dweez> Top-Roast, check your apache config, maybe it's set for internal only by default (that sort of rings a bell
[15:55] <nitzs> cute_bettong: since your hardware is quite new, don't expect the drivers to be upto par at this point of time. in the future releases, the drivers will improve.
[15:55] <scarleo> Top-Roast, Maybe check AllowFrom?
[15:55] <Top-Roast> ok ill take a look thank you
[15:55] <mint__> I have installed ubuntu 12.4 and after reboot there is no GUI. How to fix that?
[15:55] <cute_bettong> nitzs, so should i wait a month or two to innstall ubuntu?
[15:55] <wormmd> Uhhhh, belay that, I'm going to try to boot manually... Didn't know you could do that... About to Google, any tips?
[15:55] <cute_bettong> install*
[15:56] <DarsVaeda> how can I start the upgrade to 12.04 and shut-down the machine automatically when it finishes?
[15:56] <UIM> hey guys, can't i run my old apps that i had on Windsow on Ubuntu anymore?
[15:56] <wormmd> UIM, wine?
[15:56] <eltigre> it's good that there is only one ubuntu upgrade every six months....
[15:56] <lexxmt> UIM check wine
[15:56] <eltigre> It takes me at least that long to forget the horror of the last update ^ ^
[15:57] <sgerbino> zykotick9: :) ok
[15:57] <UIM> wine you say... alright then
[15:57] <L3top> EuropaCar: you are probably not going to have a clean upgrade... there are probably some unconfigured things lingering which will spit errors on. You may need to sud apt-get -f install     or dpkg --configure -a   more likely to try and resolve.
[15:57] <zykotick9> UIM: just because you "can" do something, doesn't mean you should.  Look for native gnu/linux alternatives for your windows programs.
[15:57] <wormmd> UIM, what zykotick9 said.
[15:58] <wormmd> UIM, wine provides limited support for apps as well.
[15:58] <brendan> hello. Just upgraded to precise, and "python -c 'import random'" causes a traceback in "from os import urandom as _urandom" failing. Known issue?
[15:58] <moah> hello #ubuntu, I have one problem: i got a new notebook and installed 12.04 on it. then I wanted to run the "ubuntu friendly" test on it, but failed for some reason, and it got submitted anyway, so there is now a bad result for that notebook in the database. I can not delete that wrong test and it wont let me submit repeated tests, any idea how to fix that problem?
[15:58] <wormmd> UIM, not that it's not a capable program.
[15:59] <UIM> oh so i should look for some Ubuntu apps?
[15:59] <wormmd> UIM, ...u trollin'?
[15:59] <wylde> moah: maybe try in #ubuntu-testing
[16:00] <moah> ok, thx.
[16:00] <y0om4> my unity says my ubuntu is running in 2d mode, how do i turn it on to 3d mode?
[16:00] <dweez> I'm wanting to upgrade to 12.04 but i want to use my uni's mirror.  how do I go about doing that?  Can it be done through Update manager or do I need to do it through apt-get?
[16:00] <wylde> moah: or the ubuntu-testing mailing list.
[16:00] <L3top> UIM windows and linux are very different. Windows programs don't "just work" in linux, while WINE (WINdows Emulator) will work for many windows programs, do not expect it to be happy with everything, and it is not going to be as fast, and is as prone to infection as windows. You are best served finding linux alternatives. Most things can be had for free, and many work much better than their windows alternative.
[16:00] <UIM> isn't Unity web player available?
[16:00] <tbrown> trying to install Mac on Virutal machine but I think it not working I dont know if it is installing right or what the case is
[16:00] <wormmd> Geez, remind me never to come in here on upgrade day :)
[16:00] <sfears> dweez: edit software sources from the package manager and choose the mirrors drop down menu
[16:01] <Athanasius> wormmd: mmmhmmm
[16:01] <sfears> wormmd: a lot of people broke stuff
[16:01] <wormmd> L3top, wine stands for Wine Is Not an Emulator ;)
[16:01] <dweez> meh, ok.  Thought there would be (or rather should be) an "add mirror"
[16:01] <cute_bettong> nitzs, should i wait a few months before installing ubuntu to assure hardware compatability?
[16:01] <dweez> but my uni's isn't in the official list
[16:01] <L3top> ...
[16:01] <wormmd> cute_bettong, prolly.
[16:01] <sfears> there's a custom option dweez
[16:01] <dweez> cute_bettong, not in my opinion
[16:01] <napalm54> Hey, I am trying to install Ubuntu 12.04 via a USB flash drive.  However, the installation seems to be stuck.  Showing more information about the installation, it show the last line as: "Apr 27 15:52:58 ubuntu ubiquity
[16:02] <dweez> not unless you have bleeding edge hardware
[16:02] <zykotick9> L3top: WINdows Emulator < clever, even if incorrect ;)
[16:02] <Jimu> anyone know about the QML in Unity? Seems to be acting weird
[16:02] <dweez> sfears, under what Settings tab?
[16:02] <wormmd> cute_bettong, do what's right for your situation.
[16:02] <UIM> L3top: thank's for that valuable information
[16:02] <L3top> Well there I go making assumptions.
[16:02] <napalm54> nvm, it seemed to of finished right when I sent that lol
[16:02] <wormmd> cute_bettong, I'm not using that as a cop-out answer, either.
[16:02] <sfears> not exactally sure dweez, it's in there somewhere "edit origins" or "edit software sources"
[16:02] <cute_bettong> dweez yea i have bleeding edge hardware, google samsung chronos series 7
[16:02] <cute_bettong> wormmd, i know i understand
[16:03] <L3top> UIM there is a large database of compatable incompatable programs... I believe here http://appdb.winehq.org/
[16:03] <zykotick9> !appdb
[16:03] <cute_bettong> dweez why do you think that?
[16:03] <sfears> napalm54: sometimes the installation gets stuck, sometimes is a bad ISO or bad USBCreation.  you can check the md5 sum of your ISO and maybe try the alternate install after you try your usb install a second time
[16:03] <dweez> cute_bettong have to do something special to get it working on 11.10?
[16:03] <ksian> how to start GUI in ubuntu 12.04. I have no interface after installing
[16:04] <dweez> cute_bettong, I think that because I doubt if a special driver is needed for 12.04 that is different from 11.10
[16:04] <EuropaCar> L3top: oh gosh it looks like it's stuck at teh flashplugin stage again
[16:04] <nitzs> cute_bettong: you should use the free driver instead.
[16:04] <nitzs> jason^: maybe you should remove the existing linux-firware package and reinstall it if the upgrade happens successfully.
[16:04] <EuropaCar> L3top: oh no it has passed that swtage now
[16:04] <cute_bettong> dweez in 11.10 it had these issues, in 12.04 they made the laptop almost unusable
[16:04] <zykotick9> ksian: did you use a regular LiveCD or a miniCD to install?
[16:04] <UIM> L3top: oh i will check it out...
[16:05] <zykotick9> ksian: "sudo service lightdm start"
[16:05] <cute_bettong> nitzs, the free driver, the second one listed in the "restricted drivers" dosen't have hardware accellertion for ATI and the first option for the new drivers simply won't install
[16:05] <dweez> cute_bettong, then I'd probably wait...or try running the LiveCD and playing around to see if I oculd tell if issues would come up or not (but of course, the LiveCD uses mostly generic drivers
[16:05] <dweez> startx doesn't do it anymore?
[16:05] <L3top> EuropaCar1: The problem with those proprietary third party drivers, is that they don't always handle drops well. msttcorefonts is particularly gross about it.
[16:05] <sfears> dweez: sudo restart gdm
[16:06] <zykotick9> sfears: gdm was replaced by default with lightdm a while ago...
[16:06] <ksian> It was live cd
[16:06] <dweez> I know that, but he isn't getting a dm at boot up
[16:06] <cute_bettong> dweez ubuntu runs really great from the live cd ^_^ it's after i install it that i have these issues with the cpu fan constantly running, and the gui crashing out on me
[16:06] <dweez> I've always just used startx (but that was before all the fancy schmancy dm's)
[16:06] <nitzs> cute_bettong: if you can stay away from hardware acceleration for a while, you should install the free driver.
[16:06] <zykotick9> ksian: what graphics card are you using?  if you can get to terminal, "lspci | grep -i vga" would tell you if you aren't sure.
[16:07] <nitzs> cute_bettong: you can also have a look at other distros out there.
[16:07] <dweez> cute_bettong, your best bet then is to wait and watch the ubuntu and your laptop manufacturers forums for others with the same laptop
[16:07] <EuropaCar1> L3top: ah understood, shame that it can affect my whole installation though - maybe there should be a way around individual download problems
[16:07] <sfears> I'm kinda in the wrong room zykotick9, i use KDM so I assumed...
[16:07] <y0om4> how do you make unity 3d in ubuntu 12.04?
[16:07] <sfears> y0om4: make sure you have proprietary drivers enabled if necessary
[16:07] <fl1bbl3> wear those special glasses
[16:07] <ksian> geforce 7300 gt
[16:07] <zykotick9> sfears: ahhh, "sudo service kdm start" or restart perhaps?
[16:07] <sfears> sudo restart <service>
[16:08] <cute_bettong> nitzs, not a chance, im a die hard ubuntu fan, been with it on and off for years, to me it is simply the best choice on the market for your computer, far FAR better than windows
[16:08] <sfears> better than windows but no MixMeister!
[16:08] <KacoI4> cute_bettong, except mac os x :)
[16:08] <sfears> YUNO MixMeister!
[16:09] <nitzs> cute_bettong: i meant you can try out Debian, or maybe even Fedora if it works for you.
[16:09] <ksian> i am using a live cd to talk with you. I will try with sudo service lightdm start
[16:09] <rileyp> how can I stop the xfce4 so I can  run get-edid | parse-edid from a tty1 without it complaining about the dm running
[16:09] <cute_bettong> KacoI4, never used os X so i don't know that XD
[16:09] <L3top> EuropaCar1: There is. Don't use anything not free... and by free I do not mean cost.
[16:09] <zykotick9> rileyp: "sudo service lightdm stop" perhaps?
[16:09] <cute_bettong> nitzs, ill wait till it's supported by my laptop, now stop with the blasphemy XD
[16:09] <sfears> rileyp: killall xfce (or whatever the process is called)
[16:09] <nitzs> rileyp: boot into the recovery mode.
[16:09] <KacoI4> cute_bettong, it's unix and apart from linux it feels finished
[16:09] <sfears> probably not the best way to do it, but would work
[16:10] <cute_bettong> KacoI4, nice!
[16:10] <rileyp> zykotick9: rileyp: "sudo service lightdm stop" perhaps? does not work unknown instance
[16:10] <KacoI4> cute_bettong, i switched to osx from gentoo
[16:10] <sfears> rileyp: sudo restart lightdm
[16:10] <sweb> L3top: http://paste.ubuntu.com/950116/
[16:10] <zykotick9> rileyp: what DM do you use?
[16:10] <azrip> hello there
[16:10] <EuropaCar1> L3top: well time to restart, hope this works out, thanks for all your help
[16:10] <azrip> i would like to isntall a package using apt-get install package
[16:10] <sweb> i have a problem with my packages guys please take a look http://paste.ubuntu.com/950116/
[16:10] <Jimu> anyone know where the Unity devs hang out, if they do, on IRC?
[16:11] <cute_bettong> KacoI4, yea i don't think that will run on my laptop though
[16:11] <azrip> by doing that command i would like to see which repositorie link is using
[16:11]  * sfears doesn't look at packages
[16:11] <azrip> how to check ?
[16:11] <wylde> .... /msg alis list *ubuntu-dev*
[16:12] <yeah-man> hi
[16:12] <yeah-man> i need some help ....
[16:12] <KacoI4> cute_bettong, yeah it's highly optimized for apple hw, hackintosh sucks bad
[16:12] <trinitronx> can anyone possibly assist me with fixing a failed dist-upgrade to 12.04?
[16:12] <azrip> anyone there ?
[16:12] <zykotick9> arnsa: "apt-cache policy packagename" then look at the link
[16:12] <yeah-man> I am try to configure ubuntu /etc/default/grub for text mode login promp....
[16:12] <MonkeyDust> azrip  you want to use the command line to know what repo a package is in?
[16:13] <yeah-man> Can anyone help me please?
[16:13] <zykotick9> azrip: sorry bad fail, see my message above
[16:13] <KacoI4> Jimu: #ubuntu-unity
[16:13] <zykotick9> s/bad/tab/
[16:13] <sfears> yeah-man: can you disable the logon theme from the control panel?
[16:13] <anax> Hi, guys! So, this is my third time being here today, I've been troubleshooting the whole day. Here's the deal. I have a Intel/nVidia hybrid card (I think). It says GeForce GT520M CUDA on the sticker. Now, the thing is I'm running Unity 2D on 12.04, but I want to go 3D, and I figure I can't because I can't install the drivers. Can Unity 3D run on the Intel Graphics, or do I need to enable my nVidia card?
[16:13] <cute_bettong> i think ill just wait a few months to put ubuntu on here, once the fan issue and video issues are settled ill switch on here, im so worried about hardware damage, a constantly running cpu fan is a sign that the laptop is hot, i can't afford to buy a new one so ill just play it safe
[16:13] <sfears> trinitronx: where did it fail
[16:14] <azrip> i simply would like to know when i do an apt-get install package
[16:14] <yeah-man> sfears, logon theme?
[16:14] <sfears> i think so yeah-man
[16:14] <azrip> i would like to knwo which sources.list is using
[16:14] <sfears> anax: have you enabled additional drivers?
[16:14] <trinitronx> sfears: it failed during the installing packages step
[16:14] <yeah-man> sfears, I just don't want to use kdm or gdm or anything like that
[16:14] <azrip> i mean the URL which is present on sources.list
[16:14] <anax> The Additional drivers is blank.
[16:14] <kasii> need a help on this http://imagebin.org/209988
[16:14] <m_kobernyk> hi all. i already install on my laptop ubuntu 12.04, and now max size of my display is 1024x768. I can't find /etc/X11/xorg.conf. how can I fix it?
[16:14] <azrip> which URL is using ?
[16:14] <kasii> http://imagebin.org/209988
[16:15] <sfears> have you rebooted trinitronx, does it boot?
[16:15] <bartos01> hi how do i get two different wallpapers on dual monitor with unity
[16:15] <MonkeyDust> bartos01  not
[16:15] <wylde> anax: have you looked here? >> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/HybridGraphics
[16:15] <kasii> need a help on this http://imagebin.org/209988
[16:15] <sfears> m_kobernyk: have you enabled additional drivers?
[16:15] <trinitronx> sfears: It told me to do 'sudo dpkg --configure -a' but I get this error: dpkg: error: parsing file '/var/lib/dpkg/status' near line 55497 package 'indicator-displex': blank line in value of field 'Description'
[16:15] <christhisisgool> m_kboernyk: you shouldnt have to manually edit the file. it should b e in the settings in settings>monitor
[16:15] <yeah-man> i changed GRUB_CMDLINE_LINUX_DEFAULT="text" and it boot in text mode but not text mode login prompt...
[16:16] <anax> Well, I did, but I got a bit confused. I'll try to reread it, and then I'll come back. Thanks, wylde!
[16:16] <zykotick9> yeah-man: did you run "sudo update-grub" after making the change?
[16:16] <wylde> anax: alrighty :)
[16:16] <azrip> possible ?
[16:16] <trinitronx> sfears: When I try doing 'sudo apt-get dist-upgrade', I get these dependency errors: http://pastebin.com/0daPh1YV
[16:16] <kelvinella> Can you guys stop download ubuntu 12.04, I want to download updates
[16:16] <sfears> have you tried a different mirror?
[16:16] <sfears> trinitronx: ?
[16:16] <yeah-man> zykotick9, yeah and then i get the text mode boot but not login
[16:16] <m_kobernyk> sfears: no, I haven't. on xubuntu 10.10 all it works fine without any drivers
[16:17] <kelvinella> I am upgrading from 12.04 to 11.04
[16:17] <zykotick9> yeah-man: ? "text" worked for me?
[16:17] <blitz> is there a way to auto convert the oneiric PPAs over to pangolin, or do I have to manually get and add the new PPAs
[16:17] <wylde> trinitronx: have you run 'sudo apt-get -f install' ?
[16:17] <yeah-man> zykotick9, sorry did not understand you
[16:17] <trinitronx> wylde: not yet, I can try
[16:17] <christhisisgool> kelvinella: you mean 11.04 to 12.04? that is not supported. you have to have 11.10 to get 12.04 using dist-upgrade
[16:17] <kasii> need a help on this http://imagebin.org/209988
[16:17] <MonkeyDust> kelvinella  you mean 11.04 to 12.04
[16:17] <sfears> there's nothing listed in the list m_kobernyk? in the additional drivers utility?
[16:18] <zykotick9> yeah-man: i but "text" in my grub and it worked.
[16:18] <sfears> it may have been disabled for the update
[16:18] <L3top> trinitronx: what does your sources.list look like? Have you added weirdo repositories?
[16:18] <kelvinella> I just insert 11.04 USB and it allows me to upgrade from 12.04 to 11.04 LOL
[16:18] <wylde> trinitronx: do that, then 'sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get dist-upgrade'
[16:19] <yeah-man> zykotick9, So it prompt you for password in text mode (like user:     password:        ), then "startx"  ?
[16:19] <m_kobernyk> sfears: how can I looking for it?
[16:19] <zykotick9> yeah-man: yes
[16:19] <yeah-man> strange!!!
[16:19] <sfears> m_kobernyk: alt+f2 and run "additional drivers"
[16:19] <kasii> need a help on this http://imagebin.org/209988
[16:20] <zykotick9> yeah-man: alternatively you can rename /etc/init/lightdm to lightdm.disabled and that also worked for me.
[16:20] <yeah-man> zykotick9, Can you kindly paste your grub ?
[16:20] <kasii> need a help on this http://imagebin.org/209988
[16:20] <wylde> !patience | kasii
[16:20] <zykotick9> yeah-man: re:paste not easily sorry.
[16:20] <kasii> wylde,  thank
[16:20] <kasii> wylde,  thank s
[16:21] <sfears> kasii: maybe thrashed hardware?
[16:21] <trinitronx> wylde: Hmm.... 'apt-get -f install' gives errors too: http://pastebin.com/hx7WW4nT
[16:21] <wylde> kasii: you might find some useful ifo here >> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UEFIBooting
[16:21] <kasii> sfears, have look at that screenshot
[16:22] <sfears> i saw it kasii, looks like thrashed hardware.
[16:22] <kasii> sfears, have look at that screenshothttp://imagebin.org/209988
[16:22] <sfears> incorreect heads/cylinders/tracks maybe they're missing becuase the disk is damaged
[16:22] <wylde> trinitronx: ok this time it's a dpkg issue... little help here? I don't recall the exact dpkg --reconfigure command. 'dpkg-reconfigure -a'?
[16:22] <kasii> wylde, yes it crshes so what to do right now
[16:23] <trinitronx> it's dpkg --configure -a
[16:23] <jackbrownhf> hey guy Does this kind of website https://www.virustotal.com are reliable as the original AV ?
[16:23] <sfears> wylde: trinitronx "sudo dpkg-reoncigure -a" i think
[16:23] <Pici> !ot | jackbrownhf
[16:23] <trinitronx> wylde: that command gives me this error: dpkg: error: parsing file '/var/lib/dpkg/status' near line 55497 package 'indicator-displex': blank line in value of field 'Description'
[16:23] <anax> wylde, I read the entire post and as I get it, they talk about swithing from my Intel card to my nVidia card, right?
[16:23] <kasii> sfears,  yes it crsahes so what to do right now
[16:23] <countfuzzball> When I 'sudo cp -a' some files in /bin to a ramdisk, I notice that some of the data seems to be stripped: 'du -hac /bin/ps: 92k' and 'du -hac /mnt/ram/ps: 88k'. What data is being stripped and is it bad?
[16:24] <trinitronx> wylde: I'll look into that /var/lib/dpkg/status file real quick
[16:24] <sfears> what to do right now? strippers!
[16:24] <kelvin> hi
[16:24] <kasii> kelvin, hi too
[16:24] <yeah-man> zykotick9, I was able to do but now i can't remember
[16:24] <kelvin> hi kelvinella
[16:24] <wylde> kasii: I have never had to deal with UEFI, I simply tried to assit you by giving you some info. Read through the page at that link and hopefully you will find some information that will help you. In the meantime repost your question approx. Every 15 to 20 minutes.
[16:24] <user_>  /nick Irendal
[16:25] <thurgood1jenkins> hello!
[16:25] <thurgood1jenkins> ubuntu is awesome
[16:25] <kelvin> kasii, hello
[16:25] <Irendal> hi, I have a question. Why is ubuntu installer so stupid?
[16:25] <wylde> anax: yes, from what I read. You basically end up choosing one of the two.
[16:25] <thurgood1jenkins> i am trying to figure out the best way to go from m4v to dvd ... most of the google responses are spam or outdated
[16:25] <kasii> kelvin, yes how are u
[16:25] <wylde> anax: the intel will be the "powersaving" gpu. Nvidia for performance.
[16:26] <kasii> kelvin,  can u work on this http://imagebin.org/209988
[16:26] <anax> wylde, but tell me. Can the Intel card produce 3D graphics? :) I don't play games, and I don't use any heavy graphic consuming programs, I would just like to enable Unity 3D. Can I do that on the Intel card? :)
[16:26] <Irendal> I had ubuntu 11.10 on my sustem. The installer proposed to erase ubuntu 11.10 and install 12.04 instead.
[16:26] <Irendal> I chose that option.
[16:26] <conner_bw> Hi, I upgraded from 10.04 LTS to 12.04 LTS, it's more or less working. Problem: HUD finds nothing (search for anything is always no results), I can't enable global menus. I tried " sudo apt-get install appmenu-gtk appmenu-gtk3 appmenu-qt" and restarted, but it didn't work Help?
[16:26] <Irendal> and now it installs on another partition -_-
[16:26] <nmittal> why am i at grub rescue after a fresh install of 12.05??
[16:27] <nmittal> error: no suck device: d6a30e22-oob3- ....
[16:27] <nmittal> such*
[16:27] <barxool> does anyone know how to use logical address in gdb (for example, how to read memory at %gs:0x14 ?)
[16:27] <wylde> anax: in all honesty I don't know, my mobo has an onboard intel that can do 3d, but I use a pcie nvidia card instead anyway. (I'm on a desktop)
[16:27] <barxool> i'm in kubuntu 11.04, on x86
[16:28] <Irendal> I mean, if Ubuntu is telling me "install 12.04 , replacing 11.10", why does it install it on *other* partition than the one used by 11.10????
[16:28] <Irendal> seriously?
[16:28] <sfears> Irendal: because it's trying to dual boot so you don't crash your system if install fails
[16:28] <DropsOfSerenity> why does unity not recognize some windows in alt-tab and launcher a lot, it happens with a lot of applications, particularly install scribes from the ubuntu software center and run it, it won't show up in alt-tab or on launcher when running.
[16:29] <blitz> doesn't sound like logical default behavior
[16:29] <Mauhdeeb> nmittal: Grub2 isn't updating during my install either. Probably just cannot update for some reason. Will have to manually update Grub2, search google for grub rescue and you should find a doc about how to so it from the Live CD
[16:29] <sfears> just manually tell it where to install Irendal
[16:29] <anax> wylde: ok :) One more question. Do you know which drivers am I running now? I just installed Ubuntu and it worked out of the box. Note that I first installed 10.10, then updated to 11.10, then to 12.04 (sorry if I missed a number).
[16:29] <Irendal> I had a dual boot. with windows. I just wanted to replace 11.10 by 12.04. Instead, it decided "oh, i'll go install it somewhere else, that sounds like a good idea !"
[16:29] <nmittal> Mauhdeeb, ok i am trying rescue and will reinstall grub
[16:29] <wylde> anax: probably the nouveau drivers if you haven't added any graphics drivers yet.
[16:29] <rajmahendra> I have upgraded to new Ubuntu today. Once i upgrade completely i have shoutdown and restarted my laptop. when i login to my account my Unity is not working properly. Alt button is not working. I dont see the launcher nor i can see the dash. anyone help me in this ?
[16:29] <Pici> Irendal: File a bug then. This isn't the place to just complain.
[16:30] <wylde> !nouveau | anax
[16:30] <sfears> if you didn't know where it was going to install it (becasue it told you)... it was a good idea
[16:30] <Mauhdeeb> nmittal: Just load the Live CD and do it from there, should fix you up
[16:30] <Irendal> sfears, it told me it was going to replace 11.10 by 12.04.
[16:30] <nmittal> Mauhdeeb, problem is i use the alternate install cd
[16:31] <Irendal> I had 4 options, erase all, update 11.10, replace 11.10, manually tell him what to do.
[16:31] <Irendal> i chose replace 11.10.
[16:31] <cchivers> why doesn't keyboard focus bind to a newly opened program?
[16:31] <Irendal> and that's not at all what it's doing
[16:31] <Mauhdeeb> nmittal: Hmm, if I remember correctly Grub2 was implemented in 10.10? Any Live CD from then on should work? Any help here guys?
[16:31] <DropsOfSerenity> why does unity not recognize some windows in alt-tab and launcher a lot, it happens with a lot of applications, particularly install scribes from the ubuntu software center and run it, it won't show up in alt-tab or on launcher when running.
[16:32] <Pici> Irendal:  What do you hope to acheive by repeating this here?
[16:32] <Irendal> I don't know.
[16:32] <dweez> I'm wanting to upgrade to 12.04 but i want to use my uni's mirror.  how do I go about doing that?  Can it be done through Update manager or do I need to do it through apt-get?
[16:32] <anax> Hmm, so, if I install some drivers for the Intel card (if they exist), will that enable 3D? Or, will I have to switch to my nVidia card, and then use it all the time for 3D?
[16:32] <Irendal> i don't know what to do anymore.
[16:32] <rajmahendra> Is there anything i am missing. only my account Unity is not working.
[16:32] <kasii> kelvin,  can u work on this http://imagebin.org/209988
[16:32] <blitzkrieg3> dweez: easiest would be to alter your sources.list
[16:32] <blitzkrieg3> and then use whatever tool you like
[16:33] <Mauhdeeb> nmittal: You can also use a server cd as it uses Grub2 as well, if you have one
[16:33] <dweez> well, it's not an official mirror and when I try to add it, it doesn't like the path so it's keeping "Add Source" greyed out
[16:33] <nmittal> Mauhdeeb, so rescue from alternate cd didnt work.. going to try the desktop live version.. i install from USB so not too bad
[16:34] <Irendal> install finished. next boot : "error:  unknown filesystem."
[16:34] <Irendal> and i get grub rescue.
[16:34] <Irendal> what am i supposed to do now?
[16:34] <rajmahendra> can you help me ... Ubuntu 12.04 upgrade Unity is not working in my account..
[16:34] <L3top> Well Irendal, you can copy your /home folder to someplace else, and install 1204 fresh
[16:34] <rajmahendra> anyone help me ?
[16:35] <blitz> so 12.04 makes the first window you maximize always max on the first monitor, how do I turn that off. If I hit maximize on a window on the second monitor I expect it to always maximize over there.
[16:35] <Irendal> L3top, that's what i was tryign to do.
[16:35] <k013> dear experts, with respect to wubi based installation, during booting it says - error prefix not set - i have done a web search for this and not found a solution - is this problem unsolved?
[16:35] <sfears> sounds like you need to reinstall grub Irendal
[16:35] <Irendal> and the ubuntu installer destroyed my system instead
[16:35] <sfears> your boot string is pointing to the wrong partition
[16:35] <Irendal> sfears, it just installed it. supposedly.
[16:35] <L3top> What is destroyed Irendal
[16:35] <Irendal> well, nothing booting anymore?
[16:35] <L3top> That sounds like bad grub, not destruction Irendal
[16:35] <Mauhdeeb> Boot to live cd and get into a shell to fix Grub
[16:36] <anax> Irendal, I haven't listened to your problems from the start, but if you're having boot problmes, boot-repair always worked for me.
[16:36] <Bender> Any help with ubuntu keyboard shotcuts please? :)
[16:36] <blitz> also what's with this whole, mouse needs to moving a certain speed to easily go from one monitor to another
[16:36] <Irendal> well, i basically just trusted the installer to replace 11.10 by 12.04
[16:36] <Irendal> and it was a big mistake
[16:36] <kasii> kelvin,  can u work on this http://imagebin.org/209988
[16:36] <Irendal> i'll try another install with manually telling him what to do...
[16:36] <anax> Irendal: You upgraded from 11.10 to 12.04 through the Update Manager?
[16:36] <Irendal> no
[16:36] <L3top> It is just the bootloader... Irendal. Not sure why it hosed... and I understand your frustration... but... software was just released yesterday... there are bound to be hiccups, and while annoying, this isn't the end of the world.
[16:37] <Irendal> i put the 12.04 CD
[16:37] <Irendal> it told me it would replace 11.10 (erase all) and put 12.04 instead
[16:37] <kasii> L3top, help me on this http://imagebin.org/209988
[16:37] <Irendal> it's not just the bootloader, i saw during the install that it was using the wrong partitions.
[16:37] <Irendal> i have no idea what it did exactly, but it was very wrong.
[16:37] <Mauhdeeb> Irendal: I erased my 11.10 and got grub rescue as well, you just have to fix Grub is all
[16:37] <sfears> maybe was a bad install, reformat and try again Irendal?
[16:37] <L3top> How many partitions do you have?
[16:37] <Irendal> problem is that i hope my windows is still there.
[16:38] <L3top> Is this a dual boot system Irendal?
[16:38] <Irendal> yes
[16:38] <anax> Irendal: Ah, ok. Because I installed it over the Update manager, and something got messed up in Grub. It always reported that there is no such partition. To all my OSs. Then I booted with a Live CD, installed boot-repair, and that fixed the problem. :)
[16:38] <sfears> your windows should still be there Irendal.
[16:38] <L3top> Understood... well lets first check the integrity of windows, ok? Boot to live disk and look around. See whats going on. We will help you as best we can.
[16:38] <Mauhdeeb> Irendal:  I have dual boot as well. the partitions don't matter, its the disk that matters
[16:38] <dbtmro> hi. anyone know a fix for nvidia on ubuntu 12.04 ,  x32
[16:38] <MrKeuner> hello, what is the file ~/.recently-used.xbel.*
[16:38] <MrKeuner> reported as 61 petabytes...
[16:38] <sfears> Irendal: boot into live session
[16:39] <Irendal> ok i'll reboot with the CD
[16:39] <Irendal> and see what is where...
[16:39] <L3top> I have never done file recovery of a fat drive in linux kasii.
[16:40] <rajmahendra> anyone tell me how to reset unity in a account login ?
[16:40] <DropsOfSerenity> why does unity not recognize some windows in alt-tab and launcher a lot, it happens with a lot of applications, particularly install scribes from the ubuntu software center and run it, it won't show up in alt-tab or on launcher when running.
[16:40] <nmittal> how do i fix/update grub from live CD
[16:41] <escott> !chroot | nmittal
[16:41] <nmittal> Mauhdeeb, i am at the live version now.. how do i fix grub
[16:41] <sfears> nmittal: wait for Irendal to get into his live session, maybe can do both at once
[16:41] <Ch4rAss> Hi, I'm just installing ubuntu 12.04 32bit, but installation hangs. I see just ubuntu logo with dots uder it. How can I install it with nomodeset or without gui?
[16:41] <nmittal> sfears sure
[16:42] <sfears> nmittal: let me see your "sudo fdisk -l" output
[16:42] <Mauhdeeb> Yeah a few folks are having this problem
[16:42] <escott> nmittal, mount /dev/sda1 /media/ubuntu; mount /dev/sda# /media/ubuntu/boot (if applicable); mount --bind /dev /media/ubuntu/dev; chroot /media/ubuntu; grub-install /dev/sda
[16:42] <sfears> yup, what escott said
[16:42] <escott> nmittal, you may need to adjust /dev/sda1 as appropriate
[16:42] <Irendal> sfears, nah, i'll have to reinstall, it's not just grub that is messed up
[16:42] <sfears> how do you know Irendal?
[16:43] <anax> wylde: hey, have you worked with swticheroo? :)
[16:43] <Irendal> i saw during the install that it was using /dev/sda7
[16:43] <Irendal> which he shouldn't have been doing
[16:43] <sfears> why do you say that Irendal?
[16:43] <nmittal> sfears.. i cant copy from that machine
[16:43] <Irendal> because my previous ubuntu was not installed there
[16:43] <Irendal> and i wanted it to replace the previous ubuntu
[16:43] <nmittal> oh maybe i can login to xchat from there
[16:43] <wylde> anax: nope :( I haven't needed it yet.
[16:43] <sfears> nmittal: it's okay
[16:44] <sfears> we need to figure out which partition / is on, do you know how to figure that out?
[16:44] <sfears> nmittal:
[16:44] <anax> wylde: ah, ok. I don't have the switch that's needed on my computer. However, it says it is enabled.
[16:44] <nmittal> sfears /dev/sda1, sda2, sda5
[16:44] <erratic> where does the config.inc.php fiel go
[16:44] <wylde> anax: you could blacklist one of the graphics adapters. Maybe by trying each one in turn you can figure out which is going to work best for you.
[16:44] <erratic> for phpmyadmmin
[16:45] <nmittal> sfears, sda5 is swap
[16:45] <sfears> yeah, one is your swap partition, one is your / partition and maybe a /home or windows.  do you know which is which
[16:45] <Irendal> so instead of using my 35 GB partition that was used by 11.10, it decided on its own to use another partition, bigger , for 12.04. all of that when it was saying "replace 11.10" ....
[16:45] <anax> wylde: I have no idea how to do that, sorry. x)
[16:45] <nmittal> sfears sda1 says boot and is linux
[16:45] <wylde> anax: no worries.
[16:45] <nmittal> sfears, sda2 is extended
[16:45] <sfears> okay, that's probably the one nmittal. "sudo mount /dev/sda1 /mnt"
[16:46] <wavded>  add-apt-repository seems to be missing from 12.04 default?  is it in a package?
[16:46] <k013> dear experts, with respect to wubi based installation, during booting it says - error prefix not set - i have done a web search for this and not found a solution - is this problem unsolved?
[16:46] <syk> i am having a problem install ubuntu 12.04 x64, when i boot into usb im getting "error prefix not set" and every option i select it just hangs.
[16:46] <nmittal> sfears, done
[16:46] <DropsOfSerenity> why does unity not recognize some windows in alt-tab and launcher a lot, it happens with a lot of applications, particularly install scribes from the ubuntu software center and run it, it won't show up in alt-tab or on launcher when running. Does no one else get this behavior? it seems to happen with a lot of different applications.
[16:46] <sfears> ok nmittal. "ls /mnt" does that have boot & proc etc...
[16:47] <erratic> where does the config.inc.php fiel go
[16:47] <erratic> for phpmyadmmin
[16:47] <Endafy> ok first install I got grub but grub said something about a disk not working so I reinstalled formatting my entire hardd drive and now all I get is a purple screen with no grub
[16:47] <Irendal> I also get the feeling that it installed the bootloader on my USB external drive, for some stupid reason.
[16:47] <nmittal> sfears, yes it does
[16:47] <Endafy> I am about 2 seconds from exploding help me please
[16:47] <kasii> bye
[16:47] <NFisher> Hi all! what packages do i have to install if i wanted to play .swf files in mplayer?
[16:47] <erratic> Endafy USE WINDOWS!
[16:47] <ceti331__> hi, has anyone sucessfully used an ubuntu machine as a wireless hotspot for mobile wifi devices ?
[16:47] <Ch4rAss> ok I choosed nomodeset installation of 12.04 and now I'm in terminal. What should I fill in to get instllation running?
[16:47] <Endafy> erratic: fuck you troll
[16:47] <sfears> nmittal: sudo mount -o bind /proc /mnt/proc
[16:48] <Endafy> I do nomodeset and it boots off the live cd
[16:48] <zipace> Endafy: chances are you've run into a plymouth bug
[16:48] <L3top> On the bright side Irendal sda1 is likely where your windows partition is. sda7 was probably just a big empty space.
[16:48] <nmittal> sfears, done
[16:48] <Endafy> zipace: well how do I fix it
[16:48] <L3top> Endafy: Is this an nVidia chipset?
[16:48] <sfears> nmittal: sudo mount -o bind /dev /mnt/dev
[16:48] <Endafy> nvidia card
[16:48] <Endafy> intel chipset
[16:48] <zipace> Endafy: try this: when booting, hit escape until the GRUB menu shows up, then boot recovery mode (AND WATCH THE MESSAGES! that's important)
[16:48] <jeffrash> Doing an clean install now.  The installer is very clean...more to come
[16:48] <jeffrash> thanks
[16:48] <Endafy> zipace: no grub
[16:48] <Endafy> just goes purple with nothing on the screen
[16:49] <Irendal> L3top, yeah, it used some empty space... what i can't understand is why it deleted my former / partition, leaving empty space there.
[16:49] <zipace> Endafy: if you get the purple screen it means that it already went beyond grub, trust me
[16:49] <Endafy> ive downloaded and burned the iso 3 times
[16:49] <zipace> (it's the purple screen of death :P)
[16:49] <IdleOne> Endafy: please don't swear in here
[16:49] <nmittal> sfears, done
[16:49] <sfears> nmittal: sudo mount -o bind /sys /mnt/sys
[16:49] <nitzs> Endafy: check the md5sum.
[16:49] <nmittal> sfears done
[16:49] <Endafy> nitzs: hurr durr the md5 is fine on the iso and the disk
[16:49] <L3top> Endafy: I would try holding the shift key on boot, see if it can get into recovery console, reinstall the nvidia drivers. Some folks seem to be getting this on certain nvidia GPUs.
[16:50] <zipace> Endafy: yes, the ISO is probably just fine, there's a chance you got yourself an unstable version of ubuntu
[16:50] <sfears> nmittal: sudo chroot /mnt /bin/bash
[16:50] <Endafy> downloaded and burned 3 different cds
[16:50] <zipace> Endafy: please vut that out, i AM trying to help you here
[16:50] <Escherial> anyone happen to know of a really nice powerpoint replacement? libre/openoffice is frustrating
[16:50] <zipace> cut*
[16:50] <Endafy> zipace: the final version of 12.04
[16:50] <nmittal> sfears, done
[16:50] <Escherial> i'm also seeing kpresenter in these search results, but i don't know if it's any god
[16:50] <Escherial> *good, even?
[16:50] <sfears> nmittal: sudo update-grub
[16:50] <zipace> Endafy: good, like i said, reboot, hit escape until grub shows up, then boot into rescue mode
[16:50] <Endafy> zipace: sorry its just annoying that an LTS is having this many issues
[16:50] <nmittal> sfears i see root@ubuntu:/#
[16:50] <Mauhdeeb> why the /bin/bash ? Wouldn't /mnt just work?
[16:51] <Endafy> zipace: I do and it does nothing ive tried trust me
[16:51] <Endafy> im not a noob ubuntu user
[16:51] <Irendal> now when i try to re-create / where it was before, it gives it the name /dev/sda9, instead of sda5 as before...
[16:51] <Endafy> but ill try again
[16:51] <zipace> Endafy: there are literally billions of reasons that could cause this behaviour, and most of them are because of PEBKAC
[16:51] <Endafy> not in this issue
[16:51] <nmittal> sfears done.. reboot?
[16:51] <sfears> nope
[16:51] <Endafy> works on some computers
[16:51] <Ch4rAss> pls help :(, I choosed nomodeset installation of 12.04 and now I'm in terminal. What should I fill in to get instllation running? ubiquity ?
[16:51] <L3top> Endafy zipace: It appears to be limited to a handful of nVidia PCI IDs... from what I have seen.
[16:51] <Endafy> doesnt on mine
[16:51] <Endafy> mine is most important
[16:51] <Irendal> is it possible to rename the partitions so that they match their place in the hard drive? like, sda5 before sda6, etc....
[16:51] <sfears> nmittal: grub-install /dev/sda
[16:52] <Endafy> L3top: right
[16:52] <sfears> we were on sda right?
[16:52] <nmittal> sfears installation finished no error reported
[16:52] <anax> Oh, man, this is killing me. Will the Ubuntu community hate me if I post this on forums? There's nothing on my particular laptop model, and there a million guides that all lead to different things, and I have no idea what to do. For those that do not know, I want to use more graphic power on my Ubuntu 12.04. I have a GeForce 520M Cuda with an Intel integrated card.
[16:52] <jtaylor> has dodging windows for the launcher been removed in 12.04?
[16:52] <Endafy> L3top: would that stop me from getting to grub with shift or esc?
[16:52] <Mauhdeeb> sfears: Wouldn't it be update-grub2?
[16:52] <zipace> L3top: that could well be, but if he gets the purple screen, ubuntu is already able to detect the monitor, and EVERY modern nvidia gpu supports basic VGA, which is about everything needed to at least boot into a shell
[16:52] <trism> jtaylor: yes
[16:53] <L3top> anax: check out bumblebee
[16:53] <jtaylor> trism: k, do you know why?
[16:53] <sfears> ohh, maybe Mauhdeeb, he can update later if it works
[16:53] <nitzs> anax: the drivers are not upto par for optimus yet.
[16:53] <Endafy> this is bad I mean its acceptable on an interim 6 month release but not on an LTS
[16:53] <gizero> Is /etc/environment the preferred way to add /opt/bin to my PATH?
[16:53] <nmittal> sfears so reboot now?
[16:53] <L3top> Yes... I am quite sure that he will be able to boot into recovery console holding shift zipace
[16:53] <erratic> man Im glad that endafy dude left
[16:54] <sfears> well, umount /proc
[16:54]  * Guest47689 *Waves*
[16:54] <sfears> umount /dev
[16:54] <zipace> L3top: it's shift, not escape? well sh!t :P
[16:54] <sfears> umount /mnt
[16:54] <L3top> er...
[16:54] <blitz> how do I make it so that my cursor doesn't get stuck in between screens if I'm not moving it fast enough
[16:54] <zipace> pretty sure i've read it's escape though
[16:54] <sfears> may need to exit the chroot session first, then umount
[16:54] <nmittal> sfears, /mnt : not mounted
[16:54] <NFisher> What packages do i have to install if i wanted to play .swf files in mplayer?
[16:54] <anax> L3top: I read about bumblebee, but at the end of the thread, it said that I don't need it for my Cuda card (or I misinterpreted the text again). nitzs: I just want to enable 3D support, I don't need the full power of the cards, switching, and so on.
[16:55] <L3top> lol sorry... ours is shift... ubuntu is space... I gets confused zipace
[16:55] <nmittal> sfears now?
[16:55] <DropsOfSerenity> why does unity not recognize some windows in alt-tab and launcher a lot, it happens with a lot of applications, particularly install scribes from the ubuntu software center and run it, it won't show up in alt-tab or on launcher when running. Does no one else get this behavior? it seems to happen with a lot of different applications.
[16:55] <Mauhdeeb> sudo unmount /mnt/dev
[16:55] <zipace> L3top: it's cool, but what do you mean by "ours"?
[16:55] <sfears> yup nmittal, should be good to go
[16:55] <Mauhdeeb> sudo unmount /mnt/proc
[16:55] <nitzs> NFisher: you cannot do that.
[16:55] <Bender> Can you help me with the keyboard shortcuts customization?
[16:55] <magma> why the unity bar doesn't auto-hide anymore with this last version update?
[16:55] <L3top> anax: if lspci | grep VGA produces 2 gpu's it is going to get confused.
[16:56] <sfears> umount Mauhdeeb
[16:56] <NFisher> nitzs, totem then..
[16:56] <Mauhdeeb> blah yea
[16:56] <Mauhdeeb> lol
[16:56] <nmittal> sfears, ok fingers crossed
[16:56] <nitzs> NFisher: just play them in your browser.
[16:56] <L3top> zipace: just an open source linux project I burn my heartbeats away on.
[16:56] <NFisher> nitzs, that is not an otion
[16:57] <zipace> L3top: ooh, tell me more please
[16:57] <anax> L3top, yep, it produced two cards.
[16:57] <Irendal> so I guess the algorithm used by the "replace 11.10" option was "delete the / partition of 11.10, create a new / partition for 12.04". It was just missing "AT THE SAME PLACE" -_-
[16:57] <nmittal> sfears now the live session wont shutdown
[16:57] <nitzs> NFisher: install gnash player then.
[16:57] <sfears> sudo shutdown now -P
[16:57] <wavded> add-apt-repository doesn't seem to exist in Ubuntu 12.04 Server Ed, have just updated lastest
[16:57] <L3top> linuxmce.org   home automation platform with a media center. It is... very big.
[16:57] <rajmahendra>  I have upgraded my Ubuntu to 12.4 today i shoutdown and restarted my laptop after i login to my accoutn i see that Unity is not showing the launcher nor i can get the dash. i switched to Gnome. can anyone help me in this to enable unity on my account ?
[16:57] <wavded> doesn't anyone know where it went?
[16:57] <erkan^> hello, where can I found a icon --> Trash on panel by Gnome Classic (12.04)?
[16:58] <nmittal> sfears i am at the login page, i accidently logged out of the LIVE session
[16:58] <NFisher> nitzs, it is possible in totem too, no need to install extra software
[16:58] <magma> why the unity bar doesn't auto-hide anymore with this last version update?
[16:58] <NoTruth> is this the right channel to ask a quick 12.04 question about power issues?
[16:58] <brett_h> Does Ubuntu's Alt-Tab switcher force you to press "Enter" to select an app to choose to, or is mine just messed up?
[16:58] <sfears> there's not a shutdown option there nmittal, i would suggest a clean shutdown since we were playing with the real disk
[16:58] <L3top> anax the only way I am aware of to utilize the nvidia GPU for accel/compositing is by switching, or manually forcing it.
[16:58] <anax> L3top: so, should I go with Bumblbee after all? And will I have Unity 3D then? :)
[16:58] <nmittal> sfears.. i did it from another ttf
[16:58] <nmittal> sfears, rebooting now
[16:59] <nitzs> NFisher: does it work in totem?
[16:59] <Ch4rAss> no response, going to install linuxmint :(
[16:59] <L3top> anax: That is what I would do.
[16:59] <Mauhdeeb> wtg bud
[16:59] <anax> L3top: Well, if the Intel card is capable of going 3D, I'm cool with that, too. I just want Unity 3D.
[16:59] <LmAt> How do I copy to the clipboard from tty?
[16:59] <NFisher> nitzs, it did, but im missing the plugin since reinstalling Ubuntu.. cant figure out what it is thats missing
[17:00] <escott> LmAt, export DISPLAY=:0; then use xclip
[17:00] <nmittal> sfears nope same screen
[17:00] <L3top> anax: the idea behind the dual GPU is a low power no frills one for basic operation to preserve battery life, and a fancy one for fancy things. I would place unity 3d in the fancy category. I
[17:00] <LmAt> escott; Thanks!
[17:00] <sfears> what's the screen nmittal?
[17:00] <L3top> anax: but do expect a hit on battery life.
[17:00] <NoTruth> In 11.10, i've laptop battery issues where the OS forces my processor to full capacity no matter what, causing over heating and excess power drains. Does 12.04 fix this?
[17:00] <ziyadb> Hi, I've upgraded to 12.04 and unity 3D isn't working.
[17:00] <nmittal> sfears grub rescue
[17:00] <anax> L3top: Alright, I shall try Bumblebee when I come home. Thanks, L3top! :)
[17:00] <nitzs> NFisher: totem-mozilla? totem-plugins?
[17:00] <trinitronx> so I think I figured out my dist-upgrade issue
[17:00] <nmittal> sfears, no such device: d8a30...
[17:01] <Irendal> where can i report a bug of the ubuntu installer?
[17:01] <trinitronx> there was a syntax error in my /var/lib/dpkg/status file.  I added a '.' to the beginning of a blank line that it was complaining about
[17:01] <NFisher> mitz
[17:01] <dustinspringman> when did Ubuntu+1 go into "invite only" ?
[17:01] <NFisher> nitzs, no
[17:01] <violinappren> !bug |  Irendal
[17:02] <trinitronx> then re-ran 'sudo dpkg --configure -a'
[17:02] <acicula>  dustinspringman its down until there is a new alpha build
[17:02] <sfears> nmittal: is that before or after you pick something from the grub menu?
[17:02] <dustinspringman> oh
[17:02] <nmittal> sfears, before  i never saw grub
[17:02] <sfears> can you try a different kernel or recovery mode?
[17:02] <Irendal> and what package is the installer?
[17:02] <dustinspringman> acicula: thanks for the heads up... i just figured it stayed up for all the "folks that are in the edgers realm"..
[17:02] <sfears> maybe try holding down the escape key to display the grub menu?
[17:02] <sfears> and try a recovery mode?
[17:03] <acicula> dustinspringman: there are no folks in the edgers realm atm :)
[17:04] <DropsOfSerenity> why does unity not recognize some windows in alt-tab and launcher a lot, it happens with a lot of applications, particularly install scribes from the ubuntu software center and run it, it won't show up in alt-tab or on launcher when running. Does no one else get this behavior? it seems to happen with a lot of different applications.
[17:04] <violinappren> sfears: shift key
[17:04] <nitzs> NFisher: were you able to play flash swf files in totem? flash games too?
[17:05] <sfears> ahh, nmittal.. use the shift key to display the grub menu and try a different kernel
[17:05] <Irendal> hmm, another question............ has grub changed style between 11.10 and 12.04?
[17:05] <Varazir> Is there a good tool to check if udp/tcp pages getting recived, I'm having problem with a dns server, I can ping it
[17:05] <violinappren> Irendal: "If you have a bug in the installer found on the "desktop" or "live" CD (the graphical installer), then please file that against the "ubiquity" package. If you have a bug in the installer found on the "alternate", "server", or "install" CD (the text-based installer), then please file that against the "debian-installer" package in the first instance."
[17:06] <Irendal> ok thanks
[17:06] <bcuraboy> hi.i've installed ubuntu  12.04 beta 2.wasn't i supoused to be upgraded??
[17:06] <Irendal> so about grub... is it normal if it looks like the grub from 10 years ago?
[17:06] <nmittal> sfears, i am just grub rescue prompt
[17:06] <zykotick9> !final | bcuraboy
[17:06] <sfears> nmittal: you tried holding shift down? and escape?
[17:06] <OerHeks> Irendal, grub2 still looks the same to me.
[17:07] <violinappren> Varazir: try dig
[17:07] <NFisher> nitzs, not games, but movies
[17:07] <Irendal> OerHeks, ok, i guess it's just a cosmetic change.
[17:07] <sfears> you can add a background image to your grub Irendal
[17:07] <nmittal> sfears, holding esc and shift
[17:07] <violinappren> bcuraboy: sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get dist-upgrade
[17:07] <bcuraboy> i've done that
[17:07] <blitz> how do I reset to unity defaults using CCSM
[17:07] <bcuraboy> but no upgrades available
[17:08] <NFisher> nitzs, well i might have messed up smth here.. i guess i meant flv.
[17:08] <sfears> and grub installed without error? i'd say you have a bad kernel, you need to choose the recovery mode and upgrade
[17:08] <NFisher> nitzs, sry
[17:08] <nitzs> NFisher: oh. then install the gstreamer-plugins-*
[17:08] <zykotick9> bcuraboy: i only had 1 update between beta and final
[17:08] <violinappren> bcuraboy: it will recieves updates not upgrades, it's already the latest release
[17:08] <zenmaster> Good morning. I am having a hard time connecting Via Windows Seven to Ubnuntu-Server-11.10 via XRDP.
[17:08] <bcuraboy> so my version will always be named as beta??
[17:08] <violinappren> bcuraboy: where is it "named" beta?
[17:09] <NFisher> nitzs, thanks!
[17:09] <Resisty> Hello, I'm trying to figure out what happens when I call `unlink /var/log/lastlog`. I was under the impression that the file gets created whenever somebody logs into the machine, but after I use unlink and logout/login, the file is still gone. Does anybody have some insight they can share?
[17:10] <Varazir> violinappren: ok thanks , bbl if I need more help :)
[17:10] <tdubellz> Hiya, I'm unable to connect to wireless with my laptop. My wireless card is a Broadcom 4313GN 802.11b/g/n
[17:10] <bcuraboy> a while back when i send a bug report it showed me at the end of the report some beta placed  in there
[17:10] <tdubellz> since i don't have a wired connection, i'm not even sure how'd i'd go about install firmware for it, if i found some
[17:11] <MechanisM> hi! after update settings unable to start
[17:11] <violinappren> bcuraboy: a "while back" it was still beta
[17:11] <bcuraboy> it was some minutes ago
[17:11] <nmittal> sfears, holding shift down and escape, i am only getting grub rescue prompt
[17:11] <violinappren> bcuraboy: im guessing, you shouldnt bother
[17:11] <nmittal> sfears, do you want me to try again with live cd
[17:11] <spacebug-> will the package "btnx" come back in Precise or has it been deleted forever?
[17:11] <syk> im trying to install ubuntu 12.04 64bit but everytime i select an option like try ubuntu without installing screen just goes black with a blinking cursor and does nothing
[17:12] <sfears> nmittal: if our grub reinstall completed without errors and it's still dumping you to a rescue prompt i'd say you have a bad kernel
[17:12] <violinappren> !nomodeset | syk
[17:12] <sfears> did you used to have a grub menu nmittal?
[17:12] <bcuraboy> i'm not bothered.i love ubuntu and i'm using it for some years :D
[17:12] <sysRPL> hello. can someone help me? i have created some myapplication.desot files in my ~/.local/application folder, but when i use the unity search (super key) my applications (.desktop files) aren't being found. i've tried logging out and back in and still they aren't found
[17:13] <sfears> can anyone help nmittal get to a grub menu? is it the shift key?
[17:13] <sysRPL> myapplication.desktop
[17:13] <escott> sysRPL, why not use desktop-file-install
[17:14] <rsvp> we're running 10.04 -- why does the Ubuntu engineer recommend waiting until JULY's point release for upgrading to 12.04 ??? And will that point release be available as iso to burn to CD ???
[17:14] <sysRPL> escott, well these are desktop files reference scripts in my hom/bon folder
[17:14] <sysRPL> !/bin
[17:14] <sysRPL> ~/bin
[17:14] <sfears> i'm not sure where to go from here nmittal other than a reinstall
[17:14] <dbtmro> hi. anyone know a fix for nvidia on ubuntu 12.04 ,  x32 ?
[17:15] <zykotick9> rsvp: it's expected that people still running the last LTS, would want a stable new LTS - thus they need the testing between release and the .1 release.
[17:15] <sfears> but i think we just need to choose the reocvery console and repair from there nmittal.
[17:15] <Irendal> dbdii407, fix for what? you can install the nvidia official drivers
[17:15] <ghabit> Hello. Fresh 12.04 install. But I have no sound! Help me please.
[17:15] <dbtmro> it does not working. after install freeses
[17:15] <blitz> can someone help me fix unity, I seem to have broken it using CCSM
[17:15] <ghabit> Btw ubuntu istalling is difficult, so much bugs...
[17:15] <dbtmro> blocks
[17:15] <rsvp> ghabit, can u hear me?
[17:15] <dbtmro> in unity
[17:16] <nmittal> sfears, so i will try to reinstall and choose rescue
[17:16] <ghabit> rsvp, I can read you. But without sound.
[17:16] <rsvp> just kidding, dude.
[17:16] <brett_h> Does Ubuntu's Alt-Tab switcher force you to press "Enter" to select an app to switch to, or is mine just messed up?
[17:16] <ghabit> I see ^)
[17:16] <ghabit> How to setup sound guys?
[17:16] <ghabit> Wanna music.
[17:16] <dbtmro> I've installed recomended driver with the same result
[17:16] <zeeno> ghabit, you have two sound devices?
[17:17] <sfears> either recovery console from the grub menu you can't seem to get to.  or just reinstall nmittal
[17:17] <dbtmro> please help
[17:17] <ghabit> zeeno, looks like ubuntu thinks my nvidia video card is soundcard too.
[17:17] <zeeno> dbtmro, and what result is that.. i just came here
[17:18] <sfears> i'm not 100% that the grub menu is there nmittal, but i think it is.  Your boot string is pointing to something corrupted or missing and dumping you to a grub resuce when it fails
[17:18] <dbtmro> nvidia driver frease desktop
[17:18] <dbtmro> I have to force restart
[17:18] <zeeno> ghabit, in command, type this, aplay --list-devices
[17:18] <ghabit> also, how to setup background of login window?
[17:18] <dbtmro> sorry for bad english
[17:18] <zeeno> ghabit, bye.
[17:19] <rsvp> zykotick9, one would think that the alpha, beta, and final would have tested upgrade migration. Everything I have read so far indicates smooth transition -- anyone hear any disaster stories re 12.04 upgrades ???
[17:19] <ghabit> zeeno, why?
[17:19] <zeeno> because you're greedy
[17:19] <dbtmro> help zeeno
[17:20] <ghabit> zeeno, output of your command http://pastebin.com/Zhqmh7Sn
[17:20] <Aditya|AutoSpace> I installed UBUNTU 12.04 today but on some little high processing my PC  started getting reboot
[17:21] <auronandace> Aditya|AutoSpace: sounds like its overheating
[17:21] <dxxxd> sur
[17:21] <violinappren> Aditya|AutoSpace: sounds like you're fan/cooling system is defective
[17:21] <Aditya|AutoSpace> No overheating
[17:21] <violinappren> your *
[17:21] <rsvp> will Ubuntu issue an iso for the 12.04.1 point release in July?
[17:21] <Aditya|AutoSpace> It's cool enough
[17:21] <violinappren> rsvp: yes
[17:22] <Aditya|AutoSpace> FYI I installed using wubi.exe
[17:22] <Aditya|AutoSpace> Windows installations
[17:22] <ZeroAdam> how goes the upgrading?
[17:22] <Irendal> how to stop X in ubuntu 12.04?
[17:23] <Maya> ZeroAdam: Push CTRL+ALT+T
[17:23] <rsvp> violinappren, thanks -- will have to burn more CDs in July then ... like August leaves.
[17:23] <violinappren> !sensors | Aditya|AutoSpace
[17:23] <ghabit> guys, anyone can help with sound? I have no sound with fresh install of 12.04
[17:23] <dbtmro> anyone help fix for nvidia on ubuntu 12.04 ,  x32 please
[17:23] <auronandace> Irendal: sudo service lightdm stop
[17:23] <ZeroAdam> I meant how is it going for everyone today who is upgrading
[17:23] <zykotick9> Irendal: "sudo service lightdm stop" if you want it temporaily.  or add "text" to grub if you want it permanent.
[17:23] <Irendal> auronandace, thanks
[17:23] <Maya> ZeroAdam: Lol oops.
[17:23] <violinappren> rsvp: always a good practice to wait to point releases for critical servers
[17:23] <|Anthony|> if i use sudo to edit another users file, will the permissions of that file change to the sudoer?
[17:24] <zeeno> |Anthony|, no
[17:24] <ZeroAdam> Maya: thank you though! :)
[17:24] <Aditya|AutoSpace> ubottu: I am using Windows too, no overheating issue there. So..Ubuntu might cause overheating?
[17:24] <Maya> ZeroAdam: Worked out fine, except I was doing that on Linuxmint distro. xD, I had issue regarding unity though, I decided to jsut clean install Ubuntu in the end.
[17:24] <zeeno> lol
[17:25] <ghabit> zeeno, dude...
[17:25] <rsvp> violinappren, what about machines of impatient relatives?
[17:25]  * zeeno thinks ubottu is a cool dude
[17:25] <Maya> Using Ubuntu 12.04, I replace default screensaver with XScreensaver. I can nolonger use the "Lock Screen" button on Unity's tray. I tried replacing that with a shell script, but that didn't help.
[17:25] <ZeroAdam> Maya: I've been waiting all day to upgrade my computer at work. I'm wondering how long it's going to take depending on load
[17:25] <Aditya|AutoSpace> violinappren: I am using Windows too, no overheating issue there. So..Ubuntu might cause overheating?
[17:26] <zeeno> !ops Aditya|AutoSpace
[17:26] <drecute> Hi
[17:26] <Maya> ZeroAdam: Upgrade might take as long as install actually.
[17:26]  * Aditya|AutoSpace thinks zeeni is cool dude!
[17:26] <LjL> zeeno: any reason you did that?
[17:26] <Aditya|AutoSpace> *zeeno
[17:26] <drecute> Please may I know what could be causing this: http://codepad.org/5Twm5fYe
[17:27] <Aditya|AutoSpace> Can any other issue causes rebooting?
[17:27] <rsvp> you know, when Ubuntu issues Amazon Machine Images -- are there also versions for point releases e.g. 10.04.1 ??
[17:27] <Aditya|AutoSpace> I will give try to fresh installations
[17:27] <LjL> zeeno, don't call ops without a reason please
[17:27] <Karpus> installed 12.04 x86 a few hours ago on a dell inspiron laptop and everything's working great except that the computer does not shut down (via gui or terminal) - I have to hold the power button to shut it down, what could be wrong? :/
[17:27] <samek> hello, i have updated 10.04 -> 12.04 and it takes about 700mb more space on disk.. why is that?
[17:28] <ZeroAdam> Maya: I'm hearing 4 hours for the server upgrade
[17:28] <rsvp> samek, did u upgrade via CD or online?
[17:28] <rumpe1> samek, maybe the upgrade-packages are still in apt's cache?
[17:29] <samek> rsvp: online and already did apt-get clean
[17:29] <ghabit> zeeno, how to ask a bot for this issue?
[17:29] <ghabit> !nosound
[17:29] <L3top> samek sudo apt-get autoclean   ?
[17:29] <ghabit> !sound
[17:29] <zeeno> Aditya|AutoSpace, you do know ubottu is not a real person right?
[17:29] <Aditya|AutoSpace> Yes
[17:30] <Aditya|AutoSpace> I know for now
[17:30] <Maya> ZeroAdam: Server upgrade? Yikes.
[17:30] <Aditya|AutoSpace> !reboot
[17:30] <d34th4ck3r_> anyone here know a permanent method for export , besides writing them in .bashrc ? :P
[17:30] <zeeno> Aditya|AutoSpace, then I dont think you need to re-paste the same thing to other people.. it looks as if you're spamming
[17:30] <ghabit> guys, anyone can help with sound? I have no sound with fresh install of 12.04
[17:30] <samek> L3top: doesn't help
[17:30] <drecute> Please may I know what could be causing this: http://codepad.org/5Twm5fYe
[17:30] <wylde> d34th4ck3r_: /etc/exports?
[17:31] <Maya> I would better off just simply chroot install Ubuntu. xD
[17:31] <Aditya|AutoSpace> zeeno : Apologies for that!
[17:31] <IdleOne> drecute: See http://projects.gnome.org/gconf/ for information.
[17:31] <d34th4ck3r_> wylde: no such file.
[17:31] <zykotick9> wylde: i think d34th4ck3r_ means bash exports, not nfs exports
[17:32] <Aditya|AutoSpace> !downgrade
[17:32] <Maya> When one pushes the "Lock Screen" button in Ubuntu 12.04, what command does that trigger?
[17:32] <L3top> samek check out gdmap... see if you can find it visually.
[17:32] <wylde> zykotick9: I think you're right, but he didn't specify :)
[17:32] <violinappren> Aditya|AutoSpace:  in a terminal: pastebinit -i /var/log/kernlog
[17:32] <Maya> Aditya|AutoSpace: What are you trying to do>
[17:32] <wylde> zykotick9: I should just not say anything when I'm only half paying attention, my bad.
[17:33] <sysRPL> why can't i mouse lasso select files/folder in nautilus when in list mode?
[17:33] <Aditya|AutoSpace> Maya: I just installed and was looking around and got reboot
[17:33] <samek> L3top: thanks, i'll look into that
[17:33] <zeeno> d34th4ck3r_, export is a bash builtin. where other place do you think you'll want to place it? (you mean in /etc/<> or /etc/<bash.d>/ ?)
[17:33] <ThinkT510> !brain | Aditya|AutoSpace
[17:33] <L3top> sysRPL: You can, you just have to move to "date" or one of the other attributes iirc
[17:34] <Aditya|AutoSpace> violinappren: I will get my kernel log ASAP
[17:34] <ZeroAdam> Maya: sry.. was away.. Yeah I have a server at home i want to upgrade. going to wait until i get home though
[17:34] <ZeroAdam> about how long have the desktops been taking to upgrade?
[17:34] <sysRPL> L3top, if my mouse ins in a blank area (e.g. anywhere below the files) i cannot lasso select
[17:34] <Aditya|AutoSpace> BTW Another problem is that I can't connect my CDMA Modem after 11.04
[17:34] <rsvp> a permanent export is always relative to the parent process -- so in .profile or even in .bash_aliases would work on startup.
[17:35] <sysRPL> L3top, it jsut doesn't work
[17:35] <Irendal> compiz segfault....
[17:35] <L3top> sysRPL: move to the RIGHT in the ATTRIBUTES
[17:35] <zeeno> ZeroAdam, depends if you're doing upgrade via online -- on how fast the net is for you, or offline which may be faster
[17:35] <Irendal> what is compiz exactly?
[17:35] <ThinkT510> Irendal: the wm
[17:35] <Irendal> :(
[17:35] <Irendal> that explains the empty screen
[17:35] <ThinkT510> Irendal: window manager
[17:35] <zeeno> Irendal, compiz is that graphical window effect for having wobbly windows
[17:35] <rsvp> compiz is 3D candy for the eye.
[17:35] <sysRPL> L3top, i have four columns, none of which are attributes
[17:35] <Irendal> ok thanks
[17:36]  * L3top moves to ubuntu machine.
[17:36] <sysRPL> i have name, size,type, and date
[17:36] <Maya> ZeroAdam: What not just ssh to it and initialize upgrade?
[17:36] <consumerism> there used to be a package openoffice.org-headless in lucid. i'm trying to find the same package in precise, but i can't. help?
[17:36] <Sample> is xmonad also a window manager?
[17:36] <rodd> So, 12.04 won't be available for 10.04 until 12.04.01 (from update-manager). However, will I be able to update from a CD containing the 12.04 iso?
[17:37] <ThinkT510> consumerism: its libreoffice now
[17:37] <ZeroAdam> Maya: that pesky warning message, has me thinking something will go wrong and then i'll lose connection and have a mess to deal with when I get home anyway
[17:37] <sysRPL> great
[17:37] <zeeno> ZeroAdam, Maya, upgrading via ssh (be sure to use the program "screen", if the ssh closes, screen will remain operating on the machine)
[17:37] <Sample> are compiz and xmonad two different window managers that occupy the same group and are mutually exclusive?
[17:37] <rsvp> rodd, they told me there will be an 12.04.1 iso.
[17:37] <violinappren> Sample: yes
[17:37] <sysRPL> it's not possible to lasso select files with the mouse in nautilus if you're in listview mode
[17:38] <sysRPL> http://askubuntu.com/questions/11479/how-to-lasso-select-multiple-files-in-nautilus-using-the-mouse-in-list-view
[17:38] <rodd> rsvp, hm right, from what I saw somewhere in ubuntu's website 12.04.01 won't be available until august
[17:38] <rodd> guess I'd better go with a fresh install
[17:38] <UnwinnableDonB> I'm trying to get my close/min/max buttons on the left in gnome-shell on 12.04 following these directions, but it's not taking: http://geekum.wordpress.com/2011/05/25/how-to-move-close-button-in-debian-gnome-shell-to-left-like-ubuntu/ Any thoughts?
[17:38] <rsvp> rodd, July
[17:38] <Maya> zeeno, ZeroAdam: You could just use an apt command to continue iirc.
[17:38] <Sample> violinappren: interesting. does compiz itself have any tiling capacity or is it mostly about being pretty?
[17:38] <ZeroAdam> zeeno: I had to read up on screen today, which is why I was hesitant. So basically just ssh to the server then do a screen session and run the upgrade in the screen session?
[17:39] <xatinhu> hi
[17:39] <rsvp> rodd, try the upgrade -- if it breaks, then you can always go fresh.
[17:39] <Guest12610> NICK
[17:39] <violinappren> Sample: no tiling as far as i know
[17:39] <zeeno> ZeroAdam, yes, because if you're ssh terminates, apt will get killed
[17:39] <rodd> rsvp, unsure about that, this is my work box not my personal pc
[17:39] <zykotick9> !alternate | rodd notice the upgrade part, you can't upgrade with a livecd
[17:39] <rodd> ill wait till july
[17:39] <zeeno> ZeroAdam, but if screen is running (screen is a multiplexer, it'll run bash under it on startup)
[17:39] <zeeno> ZeroAdam, then screen will remain active,
[17:40] <Sonnensturz> may someone can help me. My ubutu is randomly crashing and the log only says "NVRM: os_schedule: Attempted to yield the CPU while in atomic or interrupt context" and google doesnt help me :(
[17:40] <Sample> violinappren: am I correct in thinking that unity is actually what makees things pretty but compiz... is something else?
[17:40] <rodd> zykotick9, thanks for pointing that out
[17:40] <ZeroAdam> zeeno: will that screen session then also be visible via the monitor attached to the server when I get home
[17:40] <zeeno> ZeroAdam, if ssh closes, you simply re-ssh in and then you always type "screen -RR" << which means ask screen to return to any background running tasks
[17:40] <ZeroAdam> zeeno: ahh I see
[17:40] <rsvp> will a fresh install from 12.04 CD, preserve existing partitions?
[17:40] <bravery> the gnome panel on "gnome without effects" does not have any options to modify it.Right clicking on it shows no menu.
[17:40] <ThinkT510> Sample: unity is a shell on top of gnome3, compiz is the default window manager of unity
[17:40] <violinappren> Sample: if by making things pretty you mean fancy window effects, then no, it's compiz
[17:41] <trism> bravery: alt+right click
[17:41] <drewh> hello y'all, I've just updated to 12.04 and the ctrl+alt+KP4-6 aren't working anymore to resize windows. Anyone know about this?
[17:41] <Karpus> does ubuntu 12.04 with a nvidia card fallback to nouveau if the proprietary nvidia driver isn't installed?
[17:41] <escott> Sonnensturz, nvidia graphics driver bug
[17:41] <zeeno> ZeroAdam, the common helper shortcut in screen is , 'ctl-a' then '?' for the list of other shortcuts
[17:41] <bravery> trism, thnx, it works!
[17:41] <ZeroAdam> zeeno: cool thanks!
[17:42] <violinappren> rsvp: many kinds of partitioning options are supposed by the installer including manually specifying what to keep and what to go
[17:42] <zeeno> ZeroAdam, i usually dont use more than ctl-a 'c' and ctl-a 'p' or ctl-a 'spacebar'
[17:42] <Debolaz> Hmmm, I'm starting to sense that Linux has a few bugs when dealing with slow storage.
[17:42] <ZeroAdam> Maya: I like clean installs too, but I'm not up to speed to be able to clean install and still have all my setups still work afterward
[17:42] <esrrms> If I want to make a quick edit to ALSA's sound/usb/quirks-table.h file and install it, do I have to compile the whole kernel or can I just compile the alsa modules somehow?
[17:43] <Micklie> enfin j'ai récupéré mon pseudo !
[17:43] <ZeroAdam> zeeno: Cool... I looked at the ^a ? and switched between windows playing around
[17:43] <ThinkT510> !fr | Micklie
[17:43] <L3mce> sysRPL: You are correct. I primarily use kdm. Sorry to be confusing.
[17:43] <Micklie> oups sorry j'avais pas vu
[17:43] <Monotoko> hey guys... how do I change my repos? The GB ones seem to be being hammered still :(
[17:44] <Sample> ThinkT510: so gnome3 runs beneath unity?
[17:44] <rsvp> can we get clarified: is ubuntu-12.04-desktop-i386.iso is so-called "LiveCD" which CANNOT be used to upgrade ??? and the "Alternate" iso must be used for upgrading ??
[17:44] <ThinkT510> Sample: yes, unity is built on top of gnome3
[17:44] <ThinkT510> Sample: in 11.04 is was on top of gnome2
[17:45] <sysRPL> L3mce, okay no problem ... can you tell me how to get the unit search (super key) to see desktop files in my ~/.local/application folder?
[17:45] <Monotoko> rsvp, you don't need a disk to upgrade
[17:45] <Monotoko> rsvp, which version are you on atm?
[17:45] <Sample> ThinkT510: hm okay. and so what does unity do with windows that compiz does not, and visa versa?
[17:45] <imbezol> any first impressions of the new version? working ok without problems or have there been snags?
[17:45] <imbezol> wondering if i should upgrade right away or let it settle
[17:46] <bravery> Ubuntu should have one voip application working well as most of the people use it. I tried all the application available in SC but no fruit.Ekiga was well with 11.04 but here does not connect.
[17:46] <ThinkT510> Sample: no you misunderstand, unity uses compiz as the window manager, unity is basically what you'd call the desktop environment
[17:46] <L3mce> sysRPL: view/show hidden files?
[17:46] <L3mce> sysRPL: I am not very gui friendly... I barely use them.
[17:46] <rsvp> Monotoko, I'm 10.04 -- just burned the CD for ubuntu-12.04-desktop-i386.iso -- now wondering if even can be used to upgrade to 12.04.
[17:47] <bravery> imbezol, be patient...or do a clean install, it will minimize the number of pain killers
[17:47] <Monotoko> rsvp... just use "do-release-upgrade" in the terminal inside 10.04... you do not need the disk
[17:47] <ThinkT510> Sample: if you were running xfce (desktop environment) your window manager would be xfwm4
[17:47] <Monotoko> rsvp, the disk is only for a clean install
[17:47] <imbezol> bravery: i find a lot of times the problem with the upgrades is the cruft in the home dir
[17:47] <blitz> how do I restore unity2d to it's default settings
[17:47] <sysRPL> can anyone tell me how to get the unit search (super key) to see desktop files in my ~/.local/application folder? ... when i use desktop-file-install the fiels work find, but i don't want these files in my /usr/share/application folder
[17:47] <imbezol> bravery: i'd like to see a guide that shows what configs to wipe out so it doesn't mess stuff up
[17:47] <Sample> ThinkT510: okay so unity relies on compiz to interpret its X window API and render a window (including all
[17:48] <Sample> "pretty" effects?
[17:48] <sysRPL> unity search
[17:48] <imbezol> bravery: a lot of times problems seen with your usual login don't exist if you try a new login
[17:48] <bravery> imbezol, I have read many people messed up with upgrade.
[17:48] <BadCodSmell> MY install doesn't appear to have updated sources.list with web sources, is there an easy way to update this from bash?
[17:48] <b0ot> Where are the startup application entries stored in ubuntu 10.04?
[17:48] <rsvp> Monotoko, are you sure? and what about the necessity of the -d as in "do-release-upgrade -d"  ?
[17:48] <ThinkT510> Sample: yes, and unity2d uses metacity instead of compiz as the window manager
[17:48] <nmittal> i reinstalled ubuntu several times and after installation it keeps coming back to grub rescue prompt... what am i doing wrong??
[17:48] <imbezol> bravery: upgrading to 11.10 was not a good experience. still doesn't work as good as 11.04 did
[17:49] <bravery> imbezol, I have see people comment like creating a separate /home, but dont know how
[17:49] <Monotoko> rsvp. -d gives you the development version... just a simple do-release-upgrade will give you 12.04
[17:49] <drewh> anyone know why keybinding ctrl+alt+KP5 (& 4, 6) stopped working in 12.04?
[17:49] <escott> !home | bravery
[17:49] <hdev> Anybody an idea how I access fan control of a vaio vpcsb? it doesn't seem to have pwd entries in /sys/
[17:49] <Monotoko> rsvp, however, make sure you have a backup....
[17:49] <bravery> wow!!
[17:49] <Monotoko> upgrades have got better, but they are still a rough ride sometimes
[17:50] <violinappren> b0ot: ~/.config/autostart
[17:50] <b0ot> violinappren: thanks
[17:50] <ThinkT510> nothing beats a fresh install
[17:50] <Sample> ThinkT510: what's Unity2D? a different distribution?
[17:50] <BadCodSmell> What's the default post install sources.list for underpants server 12.04?
[17:50] <nmittal> ThinkT510, if it works
[17:50] <Irendal> I'm confused with the new interface, I have some music running, how do i open the application window that corresponds?
[17:50] <nmittal> ThinkT510, my fresh install keeps brining me to grub rescue
[17:50] <bsmith093> is 12 out yet i dont see it. im on the main server
[17:51] <ThinkT510> Sample: no, unity2d is the lesser version of unity, you fall back to unity2d if you can't run full unity (usually due to the graphics)
[17:51] <Monotoko> Irendal: top right..click your name... there is the music app
[17:51] <Irendal> oh, under the sounds icon. makes sense :)
[17:51] <Irendal> thanks
[17:51] <rsvp> all right guys -- thanks for all your kind advice! Heading out for early lunch, ciao.
[17:51] <ThinkT510> nmittal: sounds like grub isn't installing properly
[17:52] <Monotoko>  Irendal, no problem :) it all makes sense once you get used to it ^^
[17:52] <Sample> ThinkT510: so... unity IS responsible for making things pretty (including how the windows look?)?
[17:52] <bsmith093> 12 says its a beta release on update manager d
[17:52] <jlsjonas> hey, since I upgraded to 12.04 (after getting rid of the no-boot bug caused by NVIDIA GPU) I'm now unable to acces my shared folders trough samba
[17:52] <nmittal> ThinkT510, yeah... but why??
[17:52] <Monotoko> bsmith093: it might not have reached your mirror yet
[17:52] <nmittal> ThinkT510, i didnt do anything special in the install
[17:52] <ThinkT510> Sample: no thats the window manager's job (compiz)
[17:52] <bsmith093> im on the main server
[17:52] <BadCodSmell> screw this I'll just install centos at least their installer works.
[17:52] <jlsjonas> when trying to access (from ES file explorer on android) it's now prompting for a password
[17:52] <jlsjonas> but I can't find any password setting
[17:53] <jlsjonas> (re-created my username/password combo in samba settings, so that aint the issue)
[17:53] <Monotoko> bsmith093: define "main server"?
[17:53] <Sample> ThinkT510: so when you say unity/unity2d and graphics you're not referring to the way your desktop environment looks?
[17:53] <airjump> hello
[17:53] <tejinder> Is the right click menu white in background color in 12.04 ?
[17:53] <ThinkT510> Sample: what?
[17:53] <tejinder> or is there something wrong with my installation ?
[17:53] <Sample> ThinkT510: hm nvm I think I get it
[17:54] <clayton> someone from brazil here?
[17:54] <ThinkT510> Sample: it doesn't sound like you do, sorry :)
[17:54] <Sample> unity doesn't deal with how things look but can detect if you should run compiz or metacity and that determines how things shoudl look
[17:54] <bravery> tejinder, its white to me too.
[17:54] <jlsjonas> neither does the share work from windows
[17:54] <jlsjonas> telling me my un/pw combo is wrong
[17:54] <tejinder> bravery, thanks
[17:55] <ThinkT510> Sample: "how things look" is a very broad term
[17:55] <clayton> i'm a new user of unbuntu
[17:55] <nmittal> how to i reinstall grub from live cd?
[17:55] <bsmith093> from the notice i get when i click upgrade
[17:55] <bsmith093> ''This is still a BETA release.''
[17:55] <bsmith093> ''Do not install it on production machines.''
[17:56] <bravery> I think its better to include gnome classic by default on ubuntu iso than the unity which really mess the user at the first sight.
[17:56] <bsmith093> im on the server main server not main server for us
[17:56] <escott> !br > clayton
[17:56] <Monotoko> nmittal: sudo grub-install
[17:57] <ThinkT510> bravery: i'm forcing myself to use unity for a while, its not that bad actually
[17:57] <ruchee> hello, everyone
[17:57] <drewh> hi
[17:57] <pratz> hey guys I have ubuntu 10.04 and would like to upgrade to 12.04, how ??
[17:57] <bsmith093> me too
[17:57] <Monotoko> bsmith093: just do the upgrade then "sudo apt-get dist-upgrade" when it's done should take you to the final version
[17:58] <Monotoko> pratz: "do-release-upgrade"
[17:58] <Karpus> does ubuntu 12.04 with a nvidia card fallback to nouveau if the proprietary nvidia driver isn't installed?
[17:58] <Monotoko> in the terminal
[17:58] <nmittal> Monotoko, error: cannot find a device for /boot/hrub (is /dev mounted?)
[17:58] <bravery> ThinkT510, I am also love it but what I said was about the newbies who entering here from other distros.
[17:58] <ruchee> I'm use Xubuntu 12.04 now
[17:58] <jc-denton> hi
[17:58] <Monotoko> nmittal: hmm... two seconds
[17:58] <invincible_mutan> acer 6292 has not sound now
[17:58] <sanguisdex> any one know what happened to getdeb?
[17:58] <Dougie187> Has anyone had an issue where the 3D unity doesn't show an interface?
[17:58] <pratz> Monotoko: but i guess before that I have to update my current 10.04 , correct ?
[17:59] <jc-denton> I cannot burn any dvd is there a way to install the new ubuntu without any external media?
[17:59] <jc-denton> There is wubi, but it does something strange, I have two hds in my box and want to install Ubuntu on one
[17:59] <Monotoko> pratz: yeah.. make sure you're up to date, then use "do-release-upgrade" - you may want to wait as the servers are still being overloaded
[17:59] <bravery> Dougie187, did u run the Additional driver option?
[18:00] <clayton> someone use tuxguitar?
[18:00] <Monotoko> nmittal: did you specify the drive you wanted to install to?
[18:00] <Monotoko> grub-install /dev/sda for example
[18:00] <nmittal> Monotoko, i did sudo grub-install /dev/sda
[18:00] <escott> jc-denton, can you boot a usb keychain?
[18:00] <clayton> i can't hear any song....
[18:00] <jc-denton> never tried
[18:00] <pratz> Monotoko: but the main concern is, I am using screen terminal emulator, and will it work with unity ??
[18:00] <jc-denton> I have a working linux installation you know
[18:01] <bravery> clayton, explain your problem with that.
[18:01] <sweb> how can solve my damn problem. my package management have many errors
[18:01] <Monotoko> pratz: are you using the server version or the desktop version..?
[18:01] <invincible_mutan> howto troubleshoot muted laptop
[18:01] <jc-denton> but I want to reinstall it rather than upgrade
[18:01] <pratz> Monotoko: desktop version
[18:02] <Jerstin> I have an issue where 12.04 will not allow me to connect to a windows share.
[18:02] <jc-denton> can I launch the installer from a working linux system and install it on another drive / partition?
[18:02] <Monotoko> pratz: it will update you to unity... however, you're probably better doing a fresh install... upgrades are still a rough ride
[18:02] <sweb> http://paste.ubuntu.com/950397/
[18:02] <pratz> Monotoko: I am a programmer and I normally prefer, screen, yeahconsole and vim , vim will surely work but I am not sure of the other two
[18:02] <StR> in aptitude, what does it mean when a package is flagged with 'c' ?    'i' is for installed,  'p' are the not installed, but what about the c?
[18:02] <Jerstin> It will always tell me to check my password. I know my password is correct.
[18:02] <sfears> anyone here familir with KXStich?
[18:02] <Monotoko> pratz: they'll all work fine in 12.04
[18:02] <escott> StR, uninstalled config files remain
[18:02] <jlsjonas> could anyone tell me why I can't use sharing anymore?
[18:02] <Monotoko> pratz: if anything is going to go wrong, it'll be your GUI
[18:02] <pratz> Monotoko: a fresh install will not be possible for me as I have lot of data now
[18:03] <jlsjonas> (doesn't let me in)
[18:03] <StR> escott, and how do I install the config files?
[18:03] <escott> StR, purge
[18:03] <sweb> any one :(
[18:03] <jlsjonas> 12.04 desktop (upgrade from 11.10)
[18:03] <StR> escott, purge and reinstall?
[18:03] <pikkachu> can anyone suggest me a reasonable video card which works in ubuntu (has drivers)?
[18:03] <Monotoko> pratz: then my advice would be to not upgrade until you've taken a backup
[18:03] <pratz> Monotoko: so, if we consider the worst condition, how can I gain back my GUI ??
[18:03] <invincible_mutan> any ubuntu expert here
[18:03] <bravery> jlsjonas, server or desktop?
[18:03] <nmittal> Monotoko, hoping you havent forgotton me
[18:03] <Sample> ThinkT510: regarding your last statement, is there a general or easily describable explanation of what parts of that is handled by the DE (unity) and by the WM (compiz)
[18:04] <invincible_mutan> how can i troubleshoot a muted laptop ubuntu12.04
[18:04] <escott> StR, man apt-get | grep -C5 -- --purge
[18:04] <jc-denton> anyone?
[18:04] <invincible_mutan> it is my acer6292
[18:04] <escott> invincible_mutan, have you checked alsamixer?
[18:04] <Monotoko> pratz: with a reinstall... however it is possible that it might all die so I would backup just in case.... nmittal, sorry... can you post the contents of "sudo fdisk -l" into pastebin?
[18:04] <pratz> Monotoko: but I have data which is more than 600GB and it is not possible for me to find a spare hard disk
[18:04] <jlsjonas> desktop bravery
[18:04] <jlsjonas> (as I said)
[18:04] <Monotoko> pratz: then I repeat, don't attempt an upgrade
[18:04] <xskydevilx> Is it possible to get the dodge feature back in 12.04?
[18:05] <Shogoot> hi people. what hapend with startupmanager??? i cant find it in the sowtware store
[18:05] <pratz> Monotoko: so, how do I get ubuntu 12.04 ??
[18:05] <intgr> I tried upgrading 2 different virtual machiens from 10.04 to 12.04. After upgrade, both of them boot into a GRUB shell prompt. Any ideas how to debug this situation?
[18:05] <xskydevilx> pratz, go to ubuntu.com/download
[18:05] <nmittal> Monotoko, www.fpaste.org/QO8U
[18:05] <jlsjonas> atm I'm trying samba re-install
[18:05] <pratz> xskydevilx: I am not in the condition to a fresh install
[18:06] <jlsjonas> maybe that'll fix the issue
[18:06] <pratz> Monotoko: there should be a way
[18:06] <StR> escott, do you know how to find all the packages I need to purge?
[18:06] <daftykins> pratz: run an upgrade?
[18:06] <Monotoko> pratz: the way is to backup... always have a backup, it's foolish not to
[18:06] <Monotoko> daftykins: the issue is he doesn't have a backup
[18:06] <Pici> Shogoot: Looks like it was removed from the repostiories as it is no longer developed and has a chance of breaking your system. See: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/startupmanager/+bug/886640
[18:06] <xskydevilx> pratz, You could upgrade, but it's not recommended.
[18:07] <escott> StR, why do you need to purge things?
[18:07] <daftykins> pratz: are you feeling brave? ;)
[18:07] <dsfsd> I see the latest version of Unity is pretty much the same as the first release. I still can't access my running applications quickly
[18:07] <StR> escott, because I have many packages flagged as 'c'
[18:07] <pratz> xskydevilx: Monotoko ubuntu does not recommend to upgrade ? this is shocking
[18:07] <jlsjonas> reinstall doesn't work >.<
[18:07] <Shogoot> Pici, thanks. Do you kwno of any program like it that i can use in its replacment?
[18:07] <jlsjonas> pratz: neither do I
[18:07] <xskydevilx> pratz, Not Ubuntu, I don't.
[18:07] <Monotoko> pratz: nothing in the world recommends you upgrade without a backup
[18:08] <jlsjonas> I did it, and I'm stuck with issues
[18:08] <dsfsd> I see the latest version of Unity is pretty much the same as the first release. I still can't access my running applications quickly
[18:08] <xskydevilx> And most of the users don't.
[18:08] <xskydevilx> Because you can get a lot of issues and it may not run as fast.
[18:08] <dsfsd> I see the latest version of Unity is pretty much the same as the first release. I still can't access my running applications quickly
[18:08] <Monotoko> nmittal: , alright... mount /dev/sda1 (sudo mount /dev/sda1 /mnt) then run: sudo grub-install --root-directory=/mnt/ /dev/sda
[18:08] <phibxr> [12.04] Can I stop external storage devices from showing up on my launchbar in Unity? I have four connected, so the bar is getting pretty cluttered. :P
[18:08] <Pici> Shogoot: I don't know of anything off the top of my head.
[18:08] <dsfsd> I see the latest version of Unity is pretty much the same as the first release. I still can't access my running applications quickly
[18:09] <escott> StR, perhaps you have heard of the thought experiment about a tree falling in a forest. so I will ask you if a config file is in /etc, but not application is there to read it...
[18:09] <dalton2345> hello, anyone has a server at home?
[18:09] <Shogoot> Pici, i will ask in the channel :)
[18:09] <wylde> dsfsd: do you have an actual support wquestion?
[18:09] <Monotoko> phibxr: there is an option in MyUnity to stop them showing
[18:09] <StR> escott, I didn't understand what you mean
[18:09] <xskydevilx> pratz, Besides what are you upgrading from>
[18:09] <dsfsd> wylde, yes, how can I quickly access my running applications via the UI?
[18:09] <nmittal> Monotoko, installation finished. no error reported.
[18:10] <Monotoko> nmittal: :) grub is now installed
[18:10] <escott> StR, why do you care if there are config files remaining after removing an application?
[18:10] <pratz> xskydevilx: means ??
[18:10] <phibxr> Monotoko, I'd rather live with watching the icons than having to install a configuration app, but thanks for the tip. :)
[18:10] <xskydevilx> pratz, Are you trying to upgrade from 10.04 or?
[18:10] <wylde> dsfsd: click on the icon in the launchbar maybe?
[18:10] <Monotoko> xskydevilx: yes he is
[18:10] <nmittal> Monotoko, sfear wasking me to do the same thing last time.. but it didnt work :(
[18:10] <nmittal> let me reboot
[18:10] <ThinkT510> dsfsd: see the bar on the left? click the icons
[18:10] <pratz> xskydevilx: yes I am on ubuntu 10.04  now
[18:10] <nmittal> Monotoko, going to reboot.. fingers crosses
[18:10] <MrKeuner> hello, what is the file ~/.recently-used.xbel.* one being reported as reported as 61 petabytes...
[18:10] <Pici> dalton2345: Do you have a real support question? If so, just ask. Otherwise If you'd just like to chat, theres #ubuntu-offtopic
[18:10] <Monotoko> nmittal: alright fingers crossed :)
[18:10] <blitz> when I run unity --reset from a terminal window it never quits and if I cancel it then everything craps out
[18:10] <Monotoko> nmittal: two secs
[18:11] <Monotoko> make sure you are booting from that drive in your BIOS
[18:11] <jlsjonas> no-one knows why samba aint working?
[18:11] <wylde> dsfsd: if the application is running it will have an arrow beside it, if there are more than 1 window open for an application double click the icon, then click oh the diaplayed window that you want.
[18:11] <SeySayux> Hey, Ubuntu won't shut down if I type "halt", it hangs on "System Halted". I believe I'm booting in uefi mode (not certain -- Ubuntu decided this all by itself), I have an ASRock UEFI.
[18:11] <xskydevilx> pratz, I personally would not recommend it, but if you're feeling brave..
[18:11] <dalton2345> ok thx pici
[18:11] <nmittal> Monotoko, the boot order is USB and that drive
[18:11] <Foggalong> Hello
[18:11] <Monotoko> nmittal: can you unplug the USB? Just to make surwe
[18:11] <Monotoko> *sure
[18:11] <pratz> xskydevilx: Monotoko thank god, I was going to upgrade it now before consulting
[18:12] <nmittal> Monotoko, just did
[18:12] <StR> escott, I upgraded to 12.04, and after that, some packages are not working, the ones flagged as 'c', and I can't install them untill I remove the 'c' that's causing me problems
[18:12] <StR> escott, makes more sense now?
[18:12] <nmittal> Monotoko, moment of truth.. drum roll!!!
[18:12] <Monotoko> nmittal: fingers crossed :)
[18:12] <Foggalong> I'm having some trouble connecting to wireless internet with 12.04 on my laptop. Anyone any ideas?
[18:12] <xskydevilx> pratz, Anyway, why can't you upgrade?
[18:12] <OerHeks> SeySayux, "halt" is not a shutdown command, it does exactly what you want.
[18:12] <Monotoko> xskydevilx: he doesn't have a backup of the 600GB of files in his /home dir
[18:13] <daftykins> halt && hammer-time
[18:13] <pratz> xskydevilx: please do not swing me dude
[18:13] <bravery> I think it will help many from installation mess http://www.pendrivelinux.com/multiboot-create-a-multiboot-usb-from-linux/
[18:13] <xskydevilx> pratz, I ain't 'swinging' you dude..
[18:14] <xskydevilx> Monotoko, blimey!
[18:14] <Monotoko> xskydevilx: clearly British? ;)
[18:14] <blitz> hello? can anyone tell me how long unity --reset should take to run from start to finish
[18:14] <escott> StR, an old config file should not prevent you from installing the package again. can you give an example of what you are seeing
[18:14] <bravery> Foggalong, Pls explain so somebody could help u.
[18:14] <xskydevilx> Monotoko, Could be, mate. ;)
[18:15] <SeySayux> OerHeks: How come that halt works on all my other computers fine then?
[18:15] <BBgamer> Hey, does anyone know how to improve the sound quality for the Realtek HDA ALC892 codec? It's really bad for me. Makes me want to switch back to Windows.
[18:15] <Monotoko> right, see you all later... I need go commit the sin of installing Windows 7 dual boot on my machine :)
[18:15] <nmittal> Monotoko, you were rt.. the boot sequence was pointint to my SSD.. so that means grub was working all this time..
[18:15] <nmittal> Monotoko, thanks man.. i appreciate it
[18:15] <Monotoko> nmittal: Ahhh! Nice one :)
[18:15] <Foggalong> Right well on  the connections/networks menu there's just no way to connect to wireless networks, and it seems to think I've got a cabled connection plugged in which I havent
[18:16] <xskydevilx> Monotoko, Wait, but if he has a seperate /home on his HD, it will remain there.. At least I think it shall..
[18:16] <nmittal> update
[18:16] <Monotoko> nmittal: no problem, glad it's working ^^
[18:16] <SpicyBishop> greetings fellow ubunters :)
[18:16] <NimeshNeema> SpicyBishop: Hello
[18:16] <OerHeks> SeySayux, use "halt -p"
[18:16] <Monotoko> xskydevilx: I still wouldn't want to risk it... if it borks he's gotta reinstall afresh and avoid overwriting his /home :P
[18:17] <SeySayux> OerHeks: I can read "man halt" myself just fine, thank you.
[18:17] <nmittal> Monotoko, one more think.. i need to install propreitory nvidia drivers.. how do i boot into just the root prompt and not X
[18:17] <Monotoko> see you all later ^^
[18:17] <OerHeks> SeySayux, i see it is a bug  https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/linux/+bug/809628
[18:17] <Monotoko> nmittal: recovery mode
[18:17] <Monotoko> nmittal: you should get the option on the grub menu
[18:17] <Dougie187> So, now onto the next issue. Is anyone having a problem closing the main window of pidgin (buddy list window)
[18:17] <Dougie187> for me it closes all of the windows, not just the one.
[18:17] <nmittal> Monotoko, recover mode and then prompt?
[18:18] <bravery> Foggalong, wired and wireless shows separately on the menu.Wired in Ubuntu shows as "auto etho"
[18:18] <Monotoko> nmittal: yepp
[18:18] <Monotoko> it should drop you to a root shell
[18:18] <nmittal> Monotoko, ok let me try.. thanks again.. you just saved me a lot of time
[18:18] <BBgamer> Hey, does anyone know how to improve the sound quality for the Realtek HDA ALC892 codec? It's really bad for me. Makes me want to switch back to Windows.
[18:18] <Shogoot> Pici, the site you linked with the startupmanager info recomends https://launchpad.net/~danielrichter2007/+archive/grub-customizer wich i jst installed and it work like a charm
[18:18] <Monotoko> no problem :)
[18:18] <BBgamer> Any Drum And Bass song just bass farts like mad.
[18:18] <Shogoot> Pici, thanks m8 \0
[18:18] <Foggalong> bravery, in which case it's not showing. At all.
[18:19] <xskydevilx> Monotoko, Yeah, I wouldn't take any chances.. Isn't there an external storage he could use? Also partitioning the drive can save data in case of any major cockups.
[18:19] <bravery> Foggalong, make sure the "enable wireless"  is checked.Pls run the additional driver option too.
[18:20] <Foggalong> bravery, yeah it's checked. I'll try the driver thing. Forgot to do that when I updated (wouldn't work in 11.10)
[18:20] <bravery> BBgamer, did u visit www.askubuntu.com and see any thread there?
[18:20] <pratz> MonkeyDust: xskydevilx hey guys just called up my few friends and it seems really hard to have a external 600gb hard disk
[18:21] <xskydevilx> pratz, perfect, mate!
[18:21] <pratz> MonkeyDust: xskydevilx i really wanted to use 12.04
[18:21] <xskydevilx> get to the copying! :P
[18:21] <ThinkT510> pratz: really hard? i got a 750gb that works justt fine
[18:21] <bravery> Foggalong, see the release notes also as some cards not supported with this version so far.
[18:22] <xskydevilx> pratz, are you sure you want to upgrade to 12.04 stright away?
[18:22] <xskydevilx> From what I've heard, the servers are quite slow..
[18:23] <wylde> !torrents
[18:23] <sithfm> hi, i have a dell laptop running server 12.04, I have installed i8kutils and am wondering how to lock the fan speed to speed 2. whenever i do this, after a few seconds it sets itself back to 1. Is there an overall system setting for power management or laptop mode that I can set to keep this how I want it versus sutomatically managed? thanks
[18:23] <pratz> xskydevilx: not sure after taking your consultance, but I can not risk as i have lot of my code on hd
[18:23] <Foggalong> bravery, driver wouldn't install error message displayed "Sorry the instillation of this driver failed /n Please have a look at the log file /var/log/jockey.log
[18:24] <SpicyBishop> sithfm I havent user i8kutils but I would guess that if the fan goes back it is because it needs to go back, have you monitored temperature?
[18:24] <kasii> am looking for software which dooes this  http://imagebin.org/210002
[18:24] <xskydevilx> pratz, I marely suggested that you wait for a few days 'till the servers "chill" a bit
[18:24] <sithfm> SpicyBishop: yes it's veyr hot
[18:24] <finish06> why does pratz need to wait xskydevilx ?
[18:25] <sithfm> i'm trying to turn off automatic power management
[18:25] <pratz> xskydevilx: ya even they need some rest
[18:25] <sithfm> what stock features in 12.04 does this
[18:25] <bravery> Foggalong, pls specify your system specifications,then  somebody here could help u
[18:25] <xskydevilx> finish06, I'm having some major slowdowns to the servers here..
[18:25] <sithfm> i dont see anything in /etc for laptop-mode or PM or anything
[18:25] <xskydevilx> finish06, Around 50 kb/s overall tops.
[18:25] <finish06> xskydevilx, I just used a mirror....
[18:25] <Escherial> anyone have a recommendation for software for drawing diagrams?
[18:25] <Foggalong> bravery, something specific or everything?
[18:25] <xskydevilx> finish06, None of the UK mirrors worked for me :/
[18:25] <finish06> it was going to take 5 hours to download it, changed to a mirror, and it was done in 13 minutes...
[18:25] <sithfm> Escherial: check out http://diagram.ly
[18:25] <Escherial> google docs drawing is almost there, but they don't have any options for snapping to grids/other objects
[18:26] <Escherial> sithfm: ah, i will :) thanks
[18:26] <sithfm> it's pretty slick
[18:26] <finish06> xskydevilx, NONE???  what happened?
[18:26] <escott> Escherial, dia
[18:26] <guest> hi all im running from a U 10.04(3) livecd at the moment, can anyone tell me how to get access to my iphone photos, its not auto mounting ? Thanks.
[18:26] <xskydevilx> finish06, Well they were all running quite slow.
[18:27] <finish06> xskydevilx, dang!  I guess the load picked up in the last 24 hours...
[18:27] <OerHeks> guest iphone iOS 5 ?
[18:27] <wylde> xskydevilx: I was getting decent rates using the torrents at http://torrent.ubuntu.com:6969
[18:27] <guest> no 4
[18:28] <guest> 3gs it is
[18:28] <xskydevilx> wylde, Well, I did end up downloading it via torrents.
[18:28] <bravery> Foggalong, I mean the wireless card and system model etc
[18:28] <xskydevilx> wylde, I am just reporting back on the updater speed :P
[18:28] <bravery> Foggalong, see this too.https://wiki.ubuntu.com/PrecisePangolin/ReleaseNotes/UbuntuDesktop
[18:28] <wylde> xskydevilx: yeah, seems to be the best route when the servers are getting hammered.
[18:28] <OerHeks> guest, try install gtkpod
[18:28] <wylde> xskydevilx: fair enough :)
[18:28] <Foggalong> bravery, it's just in the system. Never seen it no know anything about it
[18:29] <koffel> hello all
[18:29] <Foggalong> bravery, not is it listed on the spec sticker
[18:29] <Foggalong> bravery, oh I'll chekck it!
[18:29] <guest> kk,
[18:29] <sithfm> hi, i have a dell laptop running server 12.04, I have installed i8kutils and am wondering how to lock the fan speed to speed 2. whenever i do this, after a few seconds it sets itself back to 1. Is there an overall system setting for power management or laptop mode that I can set to keep this how I want it versus automatically managed? thanks
[18:29] <DoMai> hello
[18:29] <koffel> i tring to set up a dhcp server with internet
[18:29] <xskydevilx> wylde, Though I managed to pull down 1.7 MB/s using the torrents.
[18:29] <countfuzzball> When I 'sudo cp -a' some files in /bin to a ramdisk, I notice that some of the data seems to be stripped: 'du -hac /bin/ps: 92k' and 'du -hac /mnt/ram/ps: 88k'. What data is being stripped and is it bad?
[18:29] <zykotick9> Looking for a Gnome 2-like minimal ubuntu install?  Screenshot http://imagebin.org/210003  Weighing in at 2.2GB so far (almost nothing for apps installed yet) using mini.iso (nothing selected) then installing gnome-session-fallback lightdm light-themes gnome-tweak-tool gnome-terminal gedit and compizconfig-settings-manager
[18:29] <koffel> i can get them to connect but just no outside internet
[18:30] <Viman> Hello, how can I use the Alternate install cd to upgrade to Ubuntu 12.04? Currently I'm on 10.10
[18:30] <finish06> zykotick9, pingoy OS
[18:30] <UnwinnableDonB> I'm trying to get my close/min/max buttons on the left in gnome-shell on 12.04 following these directions, but it's not taking: http://geekum.wordpress.com/2011/05/25/how-to-move-close-button-in-debian-gnome-shell-to-left-like-ubuntu/ Any thoughts?
[18:30] <blitz> how do I use Jockey to install proprietary amd drivers
[18:30] <wylde> xskydevilx: yep, beats the *heck* out of 50kb/s lol
[18:30] <bravery> Foggalong, see this too.  https://wiki.ubuntu.com/PrecisePangolin/ReleaseNotes/UbuntuDesktop
[18:30] <guest> gtkpod is for audio ?
[18:30] <blitz> required virtual size does not fit available size: requested=(3520, 1080), minimum=(320, 200), maximum=(1920, 1920) because I get this error trying to activate my second monitor
[18:30] <xskydevilx> wylde, You don't say, mate? :P
[18:30] <guest> i want mass storage / photos ?
[18:30] <ThinkT510> zykotick9: vda1?
[18:30] <kfizz> Where does Precise store launcher icon info? I checked ~/.gconf but couldn't find anything.
[18:31] <DoMai> I have a 1tb external hd that normally is plugged into the osX server - I had to plug it into the ubuntu box in order to move some files around faster and when I went to eject the box I said ok to emptying the trash.. Now around 350gb is missing on the drive - I did a dd image of the drive
[18:31] <DoMai> undelete scans do not show my files
[18:31] <kasii> am looking for software which dooes this  http://imagebin.org/210002
[18:31] <zykotick9> ThinkT510: it's virtio for kvm
[18:31] <xskydevilx> Does anyone know how to bloody get the dodge feature back in 12.04? I can't live without it :/
[18:31] <zagabar_> Hey. I am trying to set up so that I can toggle my keyboard layout using caps lock. I've achieved this with this command: setxkbmap -option grp:switch,grp:caps_toggle se,us
[18:31] <ThinkT510> zykotick9: cool
[18:31] <zagabar_> However the problem is that this makes my alt-gr (the right-alt of swedish keyboards) become a hold-thisbutton-to-change-layout-button and hence I cannot use it for typing. :( Is there a way to disable this behaviour?
[18:32] <OerHeks> kasii use cheese to make a webcam picture
[18:32] <bravery> Foggalong, type this command in terminal and give the output through pastebin "lspci -v"
[18:33] <bravery> !pastebin
[18:33] <yzhd> I am at the last step of installing 12.04. It asked me if I wanted to remove 24 files, I click on keep.. but I want them to be removed. I haven't clicked on reboot yet. Anything I can do ?
[18:33] <finish06> OerHeks, can i pm you?
[18:34] <donavan01> I need some help ... I have been chasing down a network issues for the past few days... I finally found out that it was the mtu size and after manually changing it through ifconfig I have no most issues ... however it does not stay resident and it also is not linked to the ssid but linked to the wlan0 so even if I made it resident for wlan0 it would just mess up the other connection I use... I tried editing it in the network m
[18:34] <xskydevilx> yzhd: I believe you can get rid of them later somehow, if it is really that serious.
[18:34] <Foggalong> bravery this is the output
[18:34] <Foggalong> http://paste.ubuntu.com/950469/
[18:34] <yzhd> xskydevilx, I see. So I should just re boot now ?
[18:34] <michele_> ciao raga
[18:35] <nannes> !it | michele_
[18:35] <xskydevilx> zyhd: I don't see any reason not to. After all, it should be working fine, right?
[18:35] <finish06> yzhd, you can also apt-get purge && apt-get autoremove (I think to get ride of those)
[18:36] <bravery> Foggalong, I think u get help from here http://askubuntu.com/search?q=brodcom+wireless+in+acer
[18:36] <Hieberrr> I accidentally enabled Unity in Gnome Classic (through Ubuntu Tweak), how do I remove it?
[18:37] <Escherial> is there any way to disable ubuntu unity's overriding of the alt key for moving windows?
[18:37] <SpicyBishop> Bye all :) Have a great weekend!
[18:37] <finish06> Escherial, huh?  what are you talking about?
[18:38] <mykhas> hi all. where can I take example of xorg.conf file for my system?
[18:38] <Jackneill> hi
[18:38] <nmittal> how do i get to the grub menu while booting?
[18:38] <nmittal> holding shift is not working
[18:39] <Francesca> !list.
[18:39] <xskydevilx> nmittal, Shouldn't you be able just to press Escape and it would work?
[18:39] <anax> Hey, guys. I've seen that Ironhide is the continuation of Bumblebee. Which one should I install?
[18:39] <Jackneill> i have a program (sublime text 2) i can run it just by running the binary file. how can i make it looks like it is installed properly? eg copy the binary and files and folders to the /usr/bin? or what can i do?
[18:39] <nmittal> xskydevilx, no.. i kept hitting escape but it still booted to ubuntu
[18:39] <xskydevilx> nmittal, no idea then.. sorry, mate.
[18:40] <Hieberrr> Any ideas guys?
[18:40] <finish06> xskydevilx, I thought grub always popped up to give you the option to change boot....
[18:40] <Hieberrr> :(
[18:40] <nmittal> is it possible to make sure i always get the grub menu while rebooting
[18:40] <nmittal> like a config file setting or something
[18:40] <xskydevilx> finish06, Not unless it's a standalone install, I believe.
[18:41] <xskydevilx> finish06, though it might be able to change the timeout of the grub menu.
[18:41] <ThinkT510> nmittal: edit /etc/default/grub
[18:41] <finish06> xskydevilx, interesting... that makes my ignorance udnerstandable then lol... i only single boot
[18:41] <Foggalong> bravery
[18:41] <nmittal> ThinkT510, and change what?
[18:41] <Foggalong> bravery going to reboot and try the battery thing, it's worth a shot
[18:41] <ThinkT510> nmittal: should be rather sself-evident
[18:42] <finish06> grub-timeout? lol
[18:42] <BBgamer> Does anyone know how to fix sound quality with the ALC892 Realtek chipset?
[18:42] <mirak> hi
[18:42] <Hieberrr> Can anyone help me disable unity in Gnome Classic? :(
[18:42] <blitz> can anyone help me use my second monitor
[18:42] <mirak> what is the most performant virtualiser for CPU without hardware virtualisation ?
[18:42] <escott> nmittal, /etc/default/grub
[18:42] <wylde> !sound | BBgamer
[18:42] <finish06> blitz, what is the problem?
[18:42] <escott> !nounity | Hieberrr
[18:42] <nmittal> ThinkT510, thanks for assuming i am competent ;-).. so GRUB_DEFAULT=1?
[18:42] <vfaronov> hi; precise; is it possible to have custom keyboard shortcuts with the Super (Win) key? I set them in the Keyboard Shortcuts settings but they don't work, only the launcher/overlay thingie shows up
[18:43] <escott> nmittal, no thats the option it will boot. look for boot delay
[18:43] <blitz> finish06, turning it on in displays yields "required virtual size does not fit available size: requested=(3520, 1080), minimum=(320, 200), maximum=(1920, 1920)"
[18:43] <xskydevilx> blitz, What kind of display is it?
[18:43] <finish06> blitz, what is your graphic card?
[18:44] <blitz> HD 5450
[18:44] <Hieberrr> ubottu: I'm on 12.04 right now. I have shell and fallback installed, but Ubuntu Tweak enabled the Unity bar in fallback (classic) and nnow it won't remove it :S
[18:44] <blitz> I never had an issue before in 11.10, but I changed some settings in CCSM and now it's borked
[18:44] <blitz> the second monitor is 1600x900, the main one is 1920x1080
[18:44] <nmittal> escott, there is no boot delay
[18:45] <xskydevilx> blitz, Well there should be an option in CCSM to revert to the default settings, if that's the issue.
[18:45] <nmittal> escott, hidden_timeout
[18:45] <xskydevilx> blitz, otherwise, look if there are propriatery drivers available.
[18:45] <nmittal> escott, grub_timeout
[18:45] <blitz> proprietary drivers installed
[18:45] <syk> i finally got ubuntu 12.04 64bit to install, now it wont boot, its like the screen tears, a corrupted splash screen. i have a gtx 580 video card
[18:45] <blitz> where is this command to revert xskydevilx
[18:46] <eitai2001> Hi guys. Can I ask for help on Ubuntu 11.10 Server here, or is it only for desktop queries?
[18:46] <escott> nmittal, prob hidden timeout quiet
[18:46] <xskydevilx> blitz, can't recall at the moment.. look for settings on the left hand side or something?
[18:46] <finish06> blitz, do you know what category you edited?
[18:46] <blitz> I didn't edit any, I just started it once and closed it
[18:46] <ThinkT510> eitai2001: its fine here too
[18:46] <ThinkT510> !server
[18:46] <nmittal> escott, so set that to false?? its true rt now
[18:46] <eitai2001> Thanks ThinkT510
[18:46] <finish06> blitz, I think it is preferences, then profit & backend and tehn reset to defaults
[18:47] <BBgamer> Does anyone know how to fix sound quality with the ALC892 Realtek chipset? Considering switching back to Windows :(
[18:47] <escott> nmittal, thats what i would try. or just read the info docs
[18:48] <finish06> blitz, I think it is preferences, then profile*** & backend and then*** reset to defaults
[18:48] <blitz> I just did that, the windows froze for a second
[18:48] <xskydevilx> blitz, that is normal.
[18:48] <dsfsd> wylde, I missed your answer
[18:48] <blitz> and now my dash is gone and the top menu bar is gone
[18:48] <eitai2001> I have setup 11.10 server with a bunch of stuff such as Samba fileshare, SABnzbd+, OpenSSH, Sick Beard, Webmin, etc ... but my server is doing some funny thing ... if I try access say webmin at 10.0.0.11:10000 ... the first access attempt will time out, but if I try again it will work fine
[18:48] <ThinkT510> !webmin | eitai2001
[18:49] <jorrit> Hi all, anyone knows how to install 'technical' software like zlib-dev via muon software center?
[18:49] <eitai2001> Oh really
[18:49] <eitai2001> Damn, I didn't know
[18:49] <jorrit> I also would like to install the OpenGL dev files.
[18:49] <wylde> dsfsd:  <wylde> dsfsd: click on the icon in the launchbar maybe? <wylde> dsfsd: if the application is running it will have an arrow beside it, if there are more than 1 window open for an application double click the icon, then click oh the diaplayed window that you want.
[18:49] <eitai2001> I haven't installed anything using webmin though, do you think it could still be the problem?
[18:49] <Francesca> !addon.
[18:49] <ThinkT510> !zentyal | eitai2001
[18:50] <dsfsd> wylde, when I double click on the icon (it's crap that you have to double click) I have to wait a good few seconds before anything hapens
[18:50] <eitai2001> Cool thanks guys :)
[18:50] <ThinkT510> eitai2001: i'd get rid of webmin alltogether from your system
[18:50] <dsfsd> it's all so slow
[18:50] <eitai2001> I will uninstall webmin
[18:50] <donavan01> If I set my MTU to a number lower than the max will it still work or will I keep loosing packets as a result?
[18:50] <blitz> I did unity --reset
[18:50] <dsfsd> wylde, is there a way to do this without three clicks and 10 seconds?
[18:50] <blitz> but it seems to have frozen
[18:50] <eitai2001> is it just straight apt-get remove webmin ... or are there other dependencies I need to remove?
[18:50] <blitz> on Initializing ezoom options...done
[18:50] <xskydevilx> blitz, Well that's not good.
[18:51] <eitai2001> (I'm a bit of a noob if it's not yet obvious :P )
[18:51] <ThinkT510> eitai2001: how did you install webmin?
[18:51] <eitai2001> apt-get
[18:51] <wylde> dsfsd: alt + tab not working for you? Other than that if you're using 3d and lagging that badly try unity2d?
[18:51] <eitai2001> I used a tutorial somewhere and found a repository
[18:51] <ThinkT510> !find webmin
[18:51] <varikonniemi> will ubuntu automatic update announce the distribution upgrade when?
[18:51] <blitz> brb
[18:51] <ThinkT510> eitai2001: oh, so you used a ppa
[18:51] <wylde> !webmin
[18:51] <trism> jorrit: you will almost always have a nicer time installing dev packages from the command line with apt-get: apt-cache search -n mesa dev; for the opengl libraries, sudo apt-get install zlib1g-dev; for zlib
[18:51] <varikonniemi> to my knowledge it was released yesterday
[18:51] <sduvick> how can I find what module is responsible for /dev/input/event5?
[18:51] <BBgamer> Does anyone know how to fix sound quality with the ALC892 Realtek chipset? Considering switching back to Windows :(
[18:51] <dsfsd> wylde, I don't want to use keyboard shortcuts, nor does anyone else that uses this machine. We just want a nice ui
[18:51] <varikonniemi> so why no upgrade?
[18:52] <luddite> Hello, can anyone tell me how to change window focus on mouse hover in precise ??
[18:52] <jorrit> trism, yes but I don't always know the package name.
[18:52] <jorrit> trism, so it would be handy if I could search in muon software center.
[18:52] <ThinkT510> !ppa-purge | eitai2001
[18:52] <dsfsd> wylde, plus, we're running dual atu cards on a 16 gb (ram) dual core machine ... it should not lag
[18:52] <dsfsd> *ati
[18:52] <wylde> dsfsd: then try unity2d. Or make sure you are using the correct driver for your graphics chipset.
[18:52] <dsfsd> wylde, check and check
[18:52] <dsfsd> same issue
[18:52] <trism> jorrit: that is the point, it is easier to find with apt-cache search, it is almost impossible to find in the gui package managers (even fairly unintuitive in synaptic)
[18:52] <wylde> !ati
[18:52] <BBgamer> Looks like it's back to Windows then :(
[18:53] <jorrit> trism, well with ubuntu software center it was easy. Just had to enable 'Show Technical Items'
[18:53] <jorrit> trism, but I don't see that option in muon.
[18:53] <dsfsd> wylde, we also have this issue on an intel laptop
[18:53] <eitai2001> Thanks ubottu ... if I just stick the repository used for webmin, it will only remove that stuff right ... I don't want to undo everything else just yet :P
[18:53] <wylde> dsfsd: possibly you may find some useful info there, I only use nvidia cards. They seem to have better (although not perfect) support in linux.
[18:53] <eitai2001> by the way, how do I target a msg at a username here?
[18:53] <eitai2001> Been many years since I used irc :P
[18:54] <dsfsd> even is the lag was gone, it's nonsense that I need to double an icon attached to the left of my screen -_-
[18:54] <ThinkT510> eitai2001: if you are using a server you really shouldn't be using ppas at all
[18:54] <trism> jorrit: never used muon, so I have no idea, sorry
[18:54] <heckman> "/msg <nickname>" or possibly: "/query nickname"
[18:54] <aantoon> jorrit: sudo apt-get install synaptic
[18:54] <ThinkT510> eitai2001: i stay away from ppas all together
[18:54] <eitai2001> Like I say, I'm new to all of this ... I wouldn't know how to do it any other way
[18:54] <wylde> dsfsd: then perhaps the following will be of interest.
[18:54] <eitai2001> it's not a critical server
[18:54] <jorrit> aantoon, ok trying
[18:54] <luddite>  Hello, can anyone tell me how to change window focus on mouse hover in precise ??
[18:54] <wylde> !nounity | dsfsd
[18:54] <hypercube> i have a question about mitm and driftnet can somebody tell me which network i have to join?
[18:54] <eitai2001> it's just to stream media at home, but I didn't want a GUI interface to waste resources
[18:55] <hypercube> irc network
[18:55] <doki_pen> trying to install rabbitmq-server on precise. it won't start
[18:55] <doki_pen> any ideas?
[18:55] <wylde> dsfsd: the factoid needs updating but covvers what you need if you want to use a UI more closely matching gnome2.
[18:55] <eitai2001> When you refer to PPA's ... do you mean other people's repositories ... or apt-get in general?
[18:56] <eitai2001> I'm not 100% sure what PPA's are
[18:56] <wylde> dsfsd: or if you want a lighter desktop you may want to check out ....
[18:56] <ThinkT510> !ppa | eitai2001
[18:56] <wylde> !flavours | dsfsd
[18:56] <eitai2001> Oh ok
[18:56] <eitai2001> thanks, ya, that's what I figured
[18:56] <wylde> !flavors | dsfsd
[18:56] <ThinkT510> eitai2001: 3rd party unsupported packages (that sums up why they are bad)
[18:56] <eitai2001> Yeah
[18:56] <eitai2001> I understand
[18:57] <eitai2001> thanks for the help guys :)
[18:57] <eitai2001> I'll try removing webmin and give it a shot
[18:57] <BBgamer> Meh, looks like i'm going back to Windows :(
[18:57] <eitai2001> with that Zentyal, I can do similar stuff to webmin right?
[18:57] <mrCham> black screen after installation in GRUB, is there any other solution other than adding parameters such as xforcevesa, nomodeset and so on? any suggestions?
[18:57] <MonkeyDust> BBgamer  you already said that
[18:58] <eitai2001> I don't need all its features though
[18:58] <eitai2001> just to check resource usage, etc
[18:58] <BBgamer> MonkeyDust: Because I'm not getting an answer. :(
[18:58] <ThinkT510> BBgamer: use whatever you are comfortable with, threatening to go back to windows won't help you get help faster
[18:58] <Monarquista>  /j #ubuntu-br
[18:59]  * Monarquista ops... ;P
[18:59] <DoMai> anyone know about ntfs external drives and undeleting the trashcan ??
[18:59] <wylde> !patience | BBgamer
[18:59] <d3fense> hi, anyone know any live distro with to kernel debug active ?
[19:00] <ThinkT510> d3fense: this is ubuntu support
[19:00] <alvesjnr> Hi. Using ubuntu 12.04 on Macbook. The brightness button doesn't work. Any tips about how to fix it?
[19:00] <d3fense> ThinkT510: i am sorry
[19:00] <wylde> BBgamer: if you have a search through those pages and repeat your question here approx every 15-20 minutes you'll have a btter chance of finding your answer.
[19:00] <eitai2001> Once again, thanks for your help guys, chow :)
[19:00] <DoMai> lol i search beyond the beyond and to no avail
[19:01] <nmittal> i booted into recovery mode and dropped to root shell.. but its not leeting me copy or install anything.. "cannot create regular file ...: read only file system"
[19:01] <wylde> !mailinglists BBgamer: not to mention the mailing lists
[19:01] <Lazik> alvesjnr: check this page, figure which model you have, should be a fix in there : https://help.ubuntu.com/community/MacBookAir3-2
[19:01] <sweb_> hey guys please help me i'm serious problem in my packagemanagment Hit http://archive.ubuntu.com precise-backports/multiverse Translation-en       Hit http://archive.ubuntu.com precise-backports/restricted Translation-en       Hit http://archive.ubuntu.com precise-backports/universe Translation-en Hit http://archive.ubuntu.com precise-security/main Translation-en Hit http://archive.ubuntu.com precise-security/multiverse Translation-en H
[19:01] <wylde> !mailinglists | BBgamer: not to mention the mailing lists
[19:02] <sweb_> hey guys please help me i'm serious problem in my packagemanagment http://paste.ubuntu.com/950545/
[19:02] <alvesjnr> Lazik, thanks man
[19:02] <sweb_> during sudo apt-get update
[19:02] <westyvw> installer crashes 12.04 trying to find the log
[19:02] <sanduz2> i just wanted to express how much i like the new ubuntu and as a hater of the previous unity version, i find this one snappier and more well integrated, and overall i dont mind using it anymore. good job team
[19:03] <IzaneFG> Hi
[19:03] <sweb_> any one ?
[19:03] <IzaneFG> I need to upgrade to 12.04 from the 10.04
[19:04] <Musaab> 12.04 is a lot better than i thought it would be
[19:04] <Musaab> and Unity is getting more and more acceptable
[19:04] <finish06> which ccsm setting lets you drag application windows around?
[19:04] <sanduz2> indeed Musaab
[19:04] <ThinkT510> Musaab: i agree
[19:04] <a_b0y> how do i set my monitor to turn off after being idle for 10 mins?
[19:05] <Musaab> I installed it thinking I would try it for a bit, then switch again to something else, but I might stick with it.
[19:05] <krababbel> a_b0y: system settings?
[19:06] <a_b0y> krababbel i don't know where that is
[19:07] <bjweaver> all of the libvert* packages seem to be missing from 12.04  anyone have info on this?
[19:08] <Bender> Hello, can anybody help me with a remote control with USB reciver? It works great but only the 4 hotkeys doesn't. I need to create a shortcut for them, cause this remote act as a keyboard.
[19:08] <escott> a_b0y, hit the windows key and type "system settings" then go to screen
[19:08] <ThinkT510> bjweaver: libvert* ? don't you mean libvirt*
[19:09] <a_b0y> escott i'm using lubuntu
[19:09] <bjweaver> Wow , i feel stupid. .thanks :)
[19:09] <a_b0y> what program am i looking for?
[19:09] <sanduz2> a_b0y: you should go to #lubuntu
[19:09] <escott> a_b0y, then thats not applicable
[19:09] <anax> Hey, guys. I've installed Bumblebee, and I think it works. However, I have no upper panel, and the Unity launcher is not showing. I do have a Window manager, cause I'm currently in Firefox, and it does have a windows for itself. I'm on Ubuntu 12.04.
[19:09] <a_b0y> sanduz2 no one was there to help me
[19:10] <derwu> i have error in xorg log: (EE) AIGLX: r300 does not export required DRI extension, what should I do?
[19:10] <syk> I'm having problems getting Ubuntu to boot. I hear the startup sounds but I have like torn splash screen
[19:10] <sanduz2> a_b0y: if you ask the question and wait a little bit, someone should be able to help (if its possible to do what youre asking, ive never used lubuntu)
[19:10] <syk> 12.04
[19:10] <sanduz2> syk: what computer are you using
[19:11] <a_b0y> i was using Linux Mint LXDE, but Lubuntu fixed a lot of the bugs
[19:11] <oqpo> Hi, after upgrading from 11.10 to 12.04, I have sound problems, and alsamixer says: cannot open mixer: No such file or directory. But the card is in lspci list.
[19:11] <oqpo> What can I do?
[19:12] <syk> Custom build. i5, gtx 580, p8z68-v mono
[19:12] <syk> @ sanduz2
[19:12] <derwu> i have error in xorg log: (EE) AIGLX: r300 does not export required DRI extension, what should I do?
[19:13] <sanduz2> syk: i wonder if its using the intel gpu or the nvidia gpu
[19:13] <syk> I hear the sound of Ubuntu starting but my screen is corrupted
[19:13] <ThinkT510> !nomodeset | syk
[19:13] <DoMai> I hear dead bytes whispering
[19:13] <sanduz2> its probably using the nvidia gpu and the video card driver isnt installed so its not working properly
[19:13] <sanduz2> oh there you go
[19:13] <eitai2001> Hi Guys. Sorry, I'm back again. I installed the PPA remove thing ... but am unsure what the repository is called exactly
[19:14] <eitai2001> this is the tutorial I used to get webmin: http://www.ubuntugeek.com/how-to-install-webmin-on-ubuntu-11-04-natty-server.html
[19:14] <syk> ThinkT510: I had to do that to install it. I can't find that option in grub
[19:14] <eitai2001> perhaps you can help me figure out what the PPA name is from that?
[19:14] <danileigh79> Hey all, I was just backing up my system before upgrading to 12.02, how is it working? Any major glitches?
[19:15] <danileigh79> *12.04
[19:15] <sanduz2> syk: just type it in when your grub boot loader is up, youll see something like 'type 'c' to enter boot options'
[19:15] <sanduz2> or whatever
[19:15] <syk> OK
[19:15] <syk> Darn caps
[19:15] <bc``> is it possible to put only one monitor to sleep and not the other?
[19:15] <ThinkT510> eitai2001: wow, that is an awful guide, its using a sarge repo on ubuntu
[19:15] <fidel_> danileigh79: no issues here - but that measn basically nothing ;)
[19:15] <eitai2001> what does that mean?
[19:15] <eitai2001> What's a sarge repo?
[19:15] <danileigh79> fidel_: You think it's worth it upgrading?
[19:16] <ThinkT510> eitai2001: sarge is a version of debian
[19:16] <eitai2001> Like I said ... I'm a noob :?
[19:16] <eitai2001> oh ok
[19:16] <fidel_> danileigh79: how would you define "worth"?
[19:16] <eitai2001> Damn, I wish I knew what I was getting myself into :P
[19:16] <ThinkT510> eitai2001: never mix repos with different distributions, you break your system that way
[19:16] <fidel_> danileigh79: g othe simple way - as you backupped your system already. just give it a try.
[19:16] <eitai2001> I guess then I have to manually remove the packages right?
[19:17] <mystblade9> I can't boot into the liveCD. First I thought it was my video card, but I tried holding shift while booting the liveCD, got into a command line, looked around and tried 'live nomodeset'. But it just hung.
[19:17] <eitai2001> Yeah, I didn't even know sarge was a distribution
[19:17] <danileigh79> fidel_: Nevermind, if you're asking that, I guess it's ok to upgrade
[19:17] <eitai2001> I thought it was just a command or something
[19:17] <ThinkT510> eitai2001: its plain debian
[19:17] <eitai2001> Doh!
[19:17] <Hackmo> Hey, I updated my system last night and now the unity launcher bar won't hide. Anyone got any ideas on how I can get it to start auto-hiding again?
[19:18] <eitai2001> You don't think I have to start everything from scratch again do you? I mean, so far besides this one thing I've noticed, nothing else seems broken
[19:18] <caseymcgt> is anyone gettng 404 errors trying to upgrade?
[19:18] <eitai2001> I will try manually removing the packages, and if that doesn't work ... then I will just start from scratch
[19:18] <commodore256> I have a weird question
[19:18] <ThinkT510> eitai2001: fresh install is usually best
[19:19] <commodore256> why do I have a .steam folder in home?
[19:19] <eitai2001> But knowing wha I've learnt in the last 3/4 days
[19:19] <eitai2001> it should take me a helluva lot quicker.
[19:19] <ThinkT510> eitai2001: whatever you do just stick to the default repos
[19:19] <violinappren> mystblade9: trying removing 'quiet splash' from the boot line and see what messages it will emit
[19:19] <eitai2001> Yeah ... will do from now :P
[19:19] <voxel> heyy!
[19:19] <eitai2001> What about software that isn't in them though ... like Couch Potato and Sick Beard?
[19:20] <eitai2001> for auto downloading
[19:20] <mystblade9> violinappren: The LiveCD doesn't use GRUB.. It's some kind of weird command line now, I think it's LILO.
[19:20] <violinappren> mystblade9: regardless
[19:20] <eitai2001> By the way, do you have any recommended reading for a beginner like me on working with Ubuntu Server?
[19:20] <ThinkT510> eitai2001: use alternatives
[19:20] <mystblade9> violinappren: It doesn't allow me to remove sections of the kernel line.. all it allows me to do is type 'live' or 'live-install' and the arguments I would like to add.
[19:20] <eitai2001> just out of interest
[19:21] <mystblade9> Also, the help file on the system is wrong.
[19:21] <countfuzzball> When I 'sudo cp -a' some files in /bin to a ramdisk, I notice that some of the data seems to be stripped: 'du -hac /bin/ps: 92k' and 'du -hac /mnt/ram/ps: 88k'. What data is being stripped and is it bad?
[19:21] <violinappren> mystblade9: it's syslinux not grub, and it does allow to cutomize the bootline
[19:21] <dibs> Hola my ubuntiites. I wish to upgrade but wanted to test the waters first by asking if people are having many issues. My kids will crucify me if I mess up the computer.
[19:21] <mystblade9> violinappren: how?
[19:21] <KM0201> dibs: what are you upgrading from?
[19:21] <DoMai> how can I unEmpty the trachcan ?
[19:21] <mystblade9> violinappren: Anyway, when I type that line it doesn't even boot into anything.. It just hangs at the newline after 'livecd nomodeset'
[19:22] <violinappren> mystblade9:  some advanced/custom mode, dont have a live cd at hand now to try
[19:22] <mystblade9> i mean live*
[19:22] <derwu> I have error in xorg log: (EE) AIGLX: r300 does not export required DRI extension, what should I do?
[19:22] <ThinkT510> !undelete | DoMai
[19:22] <violinappren> mystblade9: you need to find out exactly why the boot hangs by enable boot messages
[19:23] <Hackmo> sorry to ask again, anyone got any ideas on why since I upgraded last night - the unity launcher bar wont hide and is constantly shown on top of all my windows?
[19:23] <DoMai> ThinkT510:  any idea why when it emptyied a trashcan on eject it decided to empty 350gb out of a folder?
[19:23] <Batshua> Hey guys?  How do I test the latest drm-intel-next-queued?
[19:23] <derwu> I have error in xorg log: (EE) AIGLX: r300 does not export required DRI extension, what should I do?
[19:23] <Batshua> I have been instructed that this is the next step in my troubleshooting, but the person helping me doth not run the ubuntu.
[19:23] <Pessimist> How is performance with r600g on Ubuntu?
[19:23] <Pessimist> Is it usable?
[19:23] <ThinkT510> DoMai: 350gb is a lot
[19:24] <mystblade9> violinappren: I'll try burning the CD agsin, I think the ISO i am using is corrupted.
[19:24] <mystblade9> again*
[19:24] <ThinkT510> DoMai: what were you deleting?
[19:24] <violinappren> !checksum |  mystblade9
[19:24] <eitai2001> Thanks for the help ThinkT. Chow :)
[19:24] <ThinkT510> !tab | eitai2001
[19:25] <ThinkT510> eitai2001: no worries :)
[19:25] <DoMai> its a ntfs that i pluged into the ubuntu box to do some file aranging and unzipping --- when i ejected it before i left for the store i said ok to empty the trash can.. hooked it up to the mac os x server and found root/folder/all the directories here    gone
[19:25] <eitai2001> ThinkT510: Oh, I just clicked ubottu was a bot ... I think I repled to it earlier :P
[19:25] <mystblade9> violinappren: Hmm. The ISO isn't corrupt, just verified it using the checksum.
[19:26] <mystblade9> Maybe it's the CD-burning software I am using, then. I was using CDBurnerXP.
[19:26] <violinappren> mystblade9: im downloading an iso, give me 10 min and i will tell exactly how to enable boot messages
[19:26] <mystblade9> ok, thanks :D
[19:26] <burningsands_> Hello I have a problem, I just installed Virtualbox on Ubuntu 12.04, but my user wasn't added to the "Vbox" user group, how can I add my self to it?
[19:26] <DoMai> it was my backup external drive and was holding apps / pictures / movies / mp3 / comics
[19:26] <commodore256> anybody know how to use jack?
[19:26] <dibs> are upgrades in general working for 11.10 users?
[19:27] <DoMai> main thing is the 50gb of camera pictures from vacations
[19:27] <Batshua> burningsands_: It should be under Users and Groups...
[19:27] <donavan01> zeitgeist-daemon   what does it really do and do I want it to run on my system ... seems like maybe/maybe not from what I have read
[19:27] <finish06> i no longer have the auto size, i.e. move app window to top of screen, auto sizes to full screen, move to left side of screen, auto size to fill half of screen on left size...  how do I get thsi back?
[19:27] <Batshua> burningsands_: There should be an 'advanced' setting or something on the bottom left of the panel.
[19:27] <fidel_> donavan01: its some kind of logging framework
[19:27] <violinappren> burningsands_: newgrp
[19:27] <fidel_> used to track what files you might use/edit etc
[19:27] <Batshua> burningsands_: Where you can click and add yourself to the group, or even create the group if needed.
[19:28] <nwilson5> upgrading from beta to stable is simply: apt-get update && apt-get upgrade, or dist-upgrade?
[19:28] <fidel_> donavan01: activity journal is some kind of frontedn for zeitgeist
[19:28] <Musaab> nwilson5, dist-uprgrade will do it
[19:28] <ThinkT510> !dist-upgrade | nwilson5
[19:28] <Musaab> nevermind
[19:28] <Musaab> lol
[19:28] <donavan01> fidel_ ok so basiclly its like teh backend for performance monitor if I was in windows?
[19:28] <nwilson5> ok
[19:29] <Musaab> !ubuntu
[19:29] <fidel_> donavan01: not sure what performance monitor is ;)
[19:29] <Musaab> !upgrade
[19:29] <bsmith093> where are my gpg keys stored, on the root partition or /home?
[19:29] <ThinkT510> !final
[19:29] <donavan01> fidel_ ok nevermind the ... Thanks
[19:30] <benjamindaines> are there any alternate battery applets that work with 12.04?
[19:30] <burningsands_> Sorry, but I don't see it in user accounts on ubuntu 12.04
[19:30] <jscoder> Hi guys, I got a problem after installing Ubuntu 12.04: The installation works correctly but after rebooting and logging in I only see a black screen and my mouse pointer that I can use. I reinstalled trice and also re-burned the CD. Any advice? I got 64bit and AMD
[19:31] <syk> Thanks guys
[19:31] <Hackmo> ok so I found out how to reset the unity launcher to auto-hide but now I have another problem, now that's it's hidden it wont come back out. When I place my cursor to the far left of the screen I get a thin black line instead of the launcher
[19:31] <violinappren> mystblade9: press f6 then escape, then you can move cursor and press backspace to delete quiet and splash
[19:31] <Everyday> anyone here familiar with the cloud offering in ubuntu?
[19:31] <gmgall> Hi everyone. I'm testing Xubuntu 12.04 and xfce4-terminal process is becoming a zombie despite it not being crashed (I'm able to use the opened terminal normally)
[19:32] <mystblade9> violinappren: alright, thanks :)
[19:32] <donavan01> ok why does my network manager settings not match what is displayed in ifconfig?
[19:32] <benjamindaines> Hackmo, keep moving the cursor, the line will get thicker depending on the "pressure", then the launcher will pop up
[19:32] <gmgall> xterm does not seem to cause this problem
[19:32] <benjamindaines> you can adjust the setting in the appearance settings
[19:32] <violinappren> Everyday: #ubuntu-server
[19:33] <ThinkT510> !cloud
[19:33] <anax> Is the Unity Launcher supposed to scroll up and down a bit slowly?
[19:33] <burningsands_> Does anyone know how to add user's to groups in Ubuntu 12.04, I don't see it in user acccounts
[19:33] <Hackmo> benjamindaines, thanks, that sorted it
[19:33] <epod> Hi, when I try and run Wow in Ubuntu, the following happens.. : aoss wine Wow.exe
[19:33] <epod> ERROR: ld.so: object '/usr/lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/libaoss.so' from LD_PRELOAD cannot be preloaded: ignored.
[19:33] <Everyday> violinappren thanks
[19:33] <epod> Wow locks out any other apps from my sound card.  Can anyone help me get alsa-oss working? padsp gives a similar error
[19:33] <krababbel> jscoder: did you try an alternative shell?
[19:33] <gmgall> Any ideas? No one in the xubuntu channel had any
[19:34] <cordoval> i am getting this The following packages have unmet dependencies: mysql-client : Depends: mysql-client-5.5 but it is not going to be installed  mysql-server : Depends: mysql-server-5.5 but it is not going to be installedE: Unable to correct problems, you have held broken packages.
[19:34] <cordoval> how to remove the 5.1 dot debs i have and install the new ones?
[19:34] <jscoder> krababbel: Do you mean like gnome? I installed GNOME3 but had the same problem
[19:34] <bsmith093> where are my private keys stored can i do a fresh install on the root partition without destroying them?, are they in /home
[19:35] <daftykins> cordoval: "sudo apt-get remove mysql-server-5.1" ?
[19:35] <wart___> hi folks.  so i'm a little confused.  i'm on an oneiric system which boots into unity (i think); I'd like to have it boot into my own wm (dwm).  I have .xinitrc all set up, but I'm not sure what to do from here.  Do I need to modify xdm/gdm or something like that?
[19:35] <Batshua> burningsands_: Gimme a minute and I'll look.
[19:35] <wart___> in other words, how do i do the alt-ctl-bak equiv. that xorg uses.
[19:35] <donavan01> gmgall I have two zomibes hanging out on my system and have no idea what they are ... I am using xbubntu
[19:36] <benjamindaines> it's too late to do anything about it, but I was hopping over from a fedora install (using a +mac iso) earlier and couldn't find a way to keep my home partition... ended up having to nuke the drive.  Is that just how it is, or did I miss something
[19:36] <benjamindaines> (fedora creates a separate partition for /home)
[19:36] <jscoder> krababbel: Or do you mean if I can access the terminal? Like tty1
[19:36] <gmgall> donavan01 Any of them are xfce4-terminal?
[19:36] <ManuelSantana> Hi you all
[19:37] <Batshua> burningsands_: Okay, you see the list of users?
[19:37] <krababbel> jscoder: I meant gnome-shell, yes.
[19:37] <Batshua> burningsands_: below it there are two buttons "add" and "delete"
[19:37] <violinappren> benjamindaines: why didn't you select manual partitioning in the installer?
[19:37] <ManuelSantana> Any good irc server with ssl support?
[19:37] <ManuelSantana> for ubuntu?
[19:37] <Batshua> burningsands_: below THAT, there's "manage groups". THAT is the button you want.
[19:37] <donavan01> gmgall ... not sure how to tell ... I was just playing with top and noticed them ... how can I check
[19:37] <jscoder> krababbel: Didn't work. Any other suggestions? :3
[19:37] <eutheria> i wonder if upgrade i will break my system
[19:38] <Batshua> burningsands_: If vbox doesn't exist, that's where you add it
[19:38] <benjamindaines> violinappren, I did, but there was no option to keep the partition... would only let me choose "do not use"
[19:38] <Batshua> burningsands_: And if it DOES exist, click on it, hit properties, and add yourself.
[19:38] <benjamindaines> couldn't select use as for /home (which you can do in the regular live CD, but that won't work on my laptop)
[19:39] <wart___> ok, ps tells me it is running lightdm.
[19:40] <Batshua> burningsands_: Do you see what I'm talking about?
[19:40] <pipegeek> Hi, folks.
[19:40] <Combatjuan> Hello.  I compiled the intel e1000e driver and installed it per the instructions.  I don't see any errors anywhere.  I used modprobe to load it and it shows up when I use lsmod.  But I still don't have a /dev/eth0.
[19:41] <violinappren> hello pipegeek
[19:41] <burningsands_> Sorry, but I don't, I'm using Ubuntu 12.04, and it doesn't seem to be there
[19:41] <Combatjuan> I have never understood how the 'files' in /dev/ come into being.
[19:41] <gmgall> donavan01 Do 'ps aux | grep Z' in a terminal a and see the output. The processes with 'Z' in the STAT column are zombies.
[19:42] <pipegeek> I'm currently trying to preseed the precise installer for deployment over a network, using the substantially same preseed we were using for lucid.  It's working so far, but the "LOading additional components" phase is going slowly enough that I wonder whether it's not hitting our internal mirror.  Has the name of that preseed option changed?
[19:42] <violinappren> Combatjuan: ifconfig -a
[19:42] <wylde> ManuelSantana:  'apt-cache search ircd' or got to http://packages.ubuntu.com/search?keywords=ircd&searchon=names&suite=all&section=all
[19:43] <pipegeek> confirmed: the string 'udeb' is not showing up in the apache access log on our mirror
[19:43] <violinappren> Combatjuan: do you see your interface there?
[19:43] <donavan01> gmgall yep I have chrome-sandbox and xfce4-terminal as zombies and im pretty sure im using them both
[19:43] <Scugnizzo> hi all
[19:43] <Combatjuan> violinappren: No.  Only lo.
[19:43] <pipegeek> aha!  looks like perhaps mirror/udeb/suite is what I need
[19:43] <pipegeek> nope
[19:44] <donavan01> gmgall yeah I just closed my term and restarted it and i was zombie right off the bat
[19:44] <gmgall> donavan01 This is awkward...
[19:44] <violinappren> Combatjuan: then probably you're not using the right driver for your chipset
[19:44] <Apocalypse_dn> hey, how can I reinstall apt? apt-get: error while loading shared libraries: libapt-pkg.so.4.12: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory
[19:45] <roasted> Question - is it possible to encrypt just one specific folder in my home folder? I don't want my entire home folder encrypted...
[19:45] <pipegeek> err, summarized: does anybody know how to preseed the precise installer with the url of the udeb mirror?  We've specified mirror/http/hostname and /directory, and the installer still looks like it's hitting the external mirror
[19:45] <Batshua> burningsands_: I'm using 12.04 also.
[19:45] <Batshua> burningsands_: Send me a screencap?
[19:45] <Debro> hello my laptop GPU died today and now Im thinking can i run ubuntu vithout video card..?
[19:45] <Combatjuan> violinappren: It's the right driver according to Dell.  And the README in the tar.gz from which I compiled it listed my device exactly.
[19:45] <wylde> !encrypt | roasted
[19:45] <donavan01> gmgall ... any idea if this is a problem or just a glitch on how the sytem is reporting things
[19:46] <brun0l3z> I believe we know about SendEmail software? the command line email sender ... with this software one can send email as name@anything.com but i was wondering if the reciever were to reply where will the mail go to if for example i entered admin@facebook.com
[19:46] <trirnoth> Hello all. Just upgraded to 12.04. Running dual screen and still running fine. Except ..... Unity bar on the wrong (right) screen.
[19:46] <violinappren> Combatjuan: pastebin the output of: lspci -v
[19:46] <BullDogr> Hi all. I'm new to IRC help; what do I do to get a question answered? Don't want to step on toes here...
[19:46] <finish06> did blitz ever come back???
[19:46] <Debro> can you run ubuntu without video card?
[19:46] <finish06> BullDogr, just ask without asking if you can ask :P
[19:46] <Combatjuan> violinappren: That will be difficult without network.  Can you tell me what I'm looking for?
[19:46] <wylde> !ask | BullDogr  :)
[19:46] <the-system> help plz install windows par pxe
[19:47] <sanduz2> love the new ubuntu and unity is getting better! keep up the good work team, bye
[19:47] <violinappren> Combatjuan: the line for your ethernet pci card
[19:47] <Combatjuan> If I do lspci | grep -C 5 eth, then I get a couple lines describing the Intel card.  This computer is down the hall, but I'll go take a look.
[19:47] <computa_mike> hi. i have  quetion
[19:47] <violinappren> !server | Debro
[19:48] <gmgall> donavan01 No, I never see it before. Looks like a unsolved bug in xfce4-terminal:  https://answers.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/xfce4-terminal/+question/188706
[19:48] <cordoval> guys how to list not upgraded packages?
[19:48] <BullDogr> I need to know how to add a startup option/argument to a service that kicks off automatically; specifically, add the "-6" option to dhcpd in 12.04 Server.
[19:48] <Batshua> burningsands_: And please respond using my nick so I don't miss your message; I'm in 3 channels and getting a lot of text traffic.
[19:48] <iris> hello
[19:48] <trirnoth> Any ideas how to change the display the unity bar shows up on? Displays Setting shows an option for launcher placement, but not which screen.
[19:48] <computa_mike> in 12.04 when I search for anything it comes up empty...  Do i have to refresh an index or something
[19:48] <datruth> I'm using kubuntu 12.04 how do I test/check my hard-drive and memory?
[19:49] <Debro> violinappren, even if pc dont have videocard..? mine died today..
[19:49] <donavan01> gmgall ... as far as I can tell everything works fine ... was using the term windows for hours without any issues so I guess it is just a glitch in the reporting ... did you notice any issues?
[19:49] <iris> when i boot12.04 it says it needs to run in low graphics mode because it can't recognize the drivers.
[19:49] <iris> how do i fix this?
[19:50] <iris> ermhello
[19:50] <violinappren> Debro: ti will have to be reachable by network
[19:50] <violinappren> it
[19:51] <thebwt> is there a way to remove the users from the users switcher bar?
[19:51] <yusuuf> Hi!
[19:51] <iris> i will come back later.
[19:51] <gmgall> donavan01 No, but I'm just testing Xubuntu for now. I have not decided if i will install it. xterm does not become a zombie.
[19:52] <violinappren> BullDogr: /etc/dhcp3/dhcpd.conf
[19:52] <yusuuf> I've installed ubuntu 12.04 today! WOW it's Awesome!. but I want an Icon I used to in old ubuntu versions, The"show Desktop" icon for the unity dock. can Anyone help me please? thanks BTW :)
[19:52] <pertutatis> hi, I installed Xubuntu over Ubuntu so I have the two desktop options in the same system: is it safe to upgrade normally?
[19:52] <Wonderhoof> i would like to install ubuntu as the only operating system on my HP touchpad. has anyone pulled this off? I'm not interested in the chroot partition way of doing it
[19:52] <gmgall> donavan01 I'm using it as a LiveCD
[19:53] <JEAT> Hi i am having a little trouble with my 12.04 install could i get a little assistance
[19:53] <violinappren> !details | JEAT
[19:53] <L3mce> What is the nature of the problem JEAT
[19:53] <donavan01> gmgall im using a full install and aside from one issue with the network manager thats making wanna scream it works pretty well IMHO
[19:54] <countfuzzball> When I 'sudo cp -a' some files in /bin to a ramdisk, I notice that some of the data seems to be stripped: 'du -hac /bin/ps: 92k' and 'du -hac /mnt/ram/ps: 88k'. What data is being stripped and is it bad?
[19:54] <JEAT> I have win7 64 on my laptop fresh install, i installed ubuntu 12.04 off my flash drive "alongside windows 7" when i boot up it doesnt take me to GRUB it boots straight to win7 w/o asking me which os i want to boot
[19:55] <a_b0y> so how do you set up screenlock, with the screen saver disabled?
[19:55] <Wonderhoof> i would like to install ubuntu as the only operating system on my HP touchpad. has anyone pulled this off? I'm not interested in the chroot partition way of doing it
[19:55] <BullDogr> Thank you violinappren. I'll try that.
[19:56] <gmgall> donavan01 I just tested another terminal emulator now, rxvt. I does not becomes a zombie also. xfce4-terminal seems the only terminal emulator with this behavior.
[19:56] <jey> hi I'm running 11.10 on a laptop and my ACPI power information has been wonky lately.... things like when I close the lid, sometimes the laptop doesn't go into low power mode, and when i switch from battery -> ac or from ac -> battery, the system doesn't notice and still thinks its in the old state.... even if I unplug an replug it in
[19:56] <jey> I've tried killing acpid and it respawns but the icon still shows battery instead of ac power
[19:56] <benjamindaines> is there anyway to get the battery monitor to display percent remaining?  I know it displays time only by design, but I don't like it and this is linux
[19:57] <aguitel> i am running xubuntu 12.04 with nvidia-current driver and glxgears say:37 frames in 5.1 seconds =  7.300 FPS ,why ?
[19:57] <eutheria> i just know my laptop will be a brick in an hour
[19:57] <pipegeek> Does anyone here have experience scripting debian-installer on ubuntu?
[19:57] <grnt> When one upgrades ubuntu it tends to pull a lot of previously packages back. Does Alternate CD exhibit the same behavior?
[19:58] <Debro> violinappren, but i dont have video card even to install and configure it..
[19:58] <smw> pipegeek, using preseed? yes
[19:58] <grnt> *previously removed
[19:58] <roasted> Has anybody used cryptkeeper in 12.04? It doesn't come up when I launch it in 12.04... that said I never used cryptkeeper before so I don't know if it's supposed to present me with a GUI. That said, one of the reviews in software center said "doesn't work with 12.04" but it has zero other detials.
[19:59] <finish06> is it possible to change the sticky edges stop velocity??  i want it slightly less sensitive
[19:59] <benjamindaines> roasted, confirmed that it doesn't work
[19:59] <roasted> benjamindaines: you've seen the same thing?
[19:59] <benjamindaines> yup
[19:59] <yusuuf> Hello! I need show desktop icon for unity! any help plase?
[19:59] <pipegeek> smw: Yeah, using preseed.  I"m trying to figure out why it's still fetching udebs from the public mirror, and not the value of mirror/http/hostname we specified
[19:59] <L3mce> pipegeek what are you trying to do
[19:59] <roasted> benjamindaines: bummer. Is there an alternative out there? I'm trying to find a way to encrypt my "Documents" folder as some of my scanned documents have personal information on them.
[20:00] <pipegeek> L3mce: make the installer use a different mirror by default
[20:00] <a_b0y> is there a way to set up screen lock with the screensaver disabled?
[20:00] <roasted> benjamindaines: cryptkeeper looked too easy since I could just select the folder and go to town (based on this guide I read anyway)
[20:00] <benjamindaines> roasted, dunno.  Let me know if you find one... I need to hide my porn
[20:00] <mystblade9> Hi. I'm at the part of the installer where it asks how much drive space you want to allocate for Windows 7 and Ubuntu, but it's not displaying any pictures on top so I don't know which side represents Windows and which represents Ubuntu. What side represents Ubuntu?
[20:00] <L3mce> That is not something I specifically have experience with... always use public.
[20:00] <roasted> benjamindaines: lol, heard that.
[20:01] <gameid> How do i get the titlebar back in 12.04 Unity? Bar at top of windows with clickable icons to close/minimize/maximize the window.
[20:01] <acicula> roasted: why not just use an encrypted home directory?
[20:01] <ito> hello. i was looking for an extension for firefox that allowed it to be more text. like. looks like th following: http://omploader.org/tMzVtZA
[20:02] <MonkeyDust> gameid  it's called globalmenu
[20:02] <pipegeek> actually, it seems to be ignoring mirror/http/hostname completely
[20:02] <jey> is there a way to reset the ACPI subsystem? I'm plugged into AC power but my icon shows battery.
[20:02] <roasted> acicula: I thought about it, but I'd like to encrypt just the folder that needs it if need be. I've heard of people having difficulty when they install newer Ubuntu versions when they have a separate home directory. I hate to run into an issue with that... And Documents would be easy to throw on a large flash drive and retain *IF*t that's an issue for me.
[20:02] <jey> and is there some place in /proc or /sys where I can find out whether the kernel thinks it's on AC or battery?
[20:03] <JEAT> hi, I have win7 64 on my laptop fresh install, i installed ubuntu 12.04 off my flash drive "alongside windows 7" when i boot up it doesnt take me to GRUB it boots straight to win7 w/o asking me which os i want to boot. how do i get it to go to GRUB or am i missing it?
[20:03] <ito> im looking for a firefox mod that makes firefox look like the following: http://ompldr.org/vMzVtZA
[20:03] <a_b0y> the Linux Mint help channel puts this one to shame, even tho this has almost 10 times more people in it.
[20:03] <ghabit> 12/04 fresh install. I have no sound, can anybody help me?
[20:03] <jrib> a_b0y: please stick to support
[20:03] <acicula> roasted: store the encryption key somewhere safely and you can always recover. that said you can configure ecryptfs to just crypt your Documents instead of your home, or anyother directory for that matter
[20:03] <violinappren> a_b0y: then use mint :)
[20:03] <phibxr> JEAT, where did you put Grub? If you put it on your USB-device, you need to make sure that it's the boot device in your bios.
[20:04] <mystblade9> I'm at the part of the installer where it asks how much drive space you want to allocate for Windows 7 and Ubuntu, but it's not displaying any pictures on top so I don't know which side represents Windows and which represents Ubuntu. What side represents Ubuntu?
[20:04] <jaxxdrew> Can someone please help me setup on a triple monitor system? Had it working with white on both sides reverted back.
[20:04] <roasted> a_b0y: this channel has a ton of traffic, and for a specific reason. That said, it's hard to follow all conversations in here. AskUbuntu.com and UbuntuForums.com are much nicer for finding help, albeit, likely a bit slower.
[20:04] <JEAT> Oh i thought GRUB installs automatically with ubuntu? so where can i get grub?
[20:04] <roasted> acicula: is ecryptfs done all by terminal?
[20:04] <jey> ito, vimperator.org
[20:04] <JEAT> or can i use windows bootloader?
[20:04] <pipegeek> is there a relatively complete doc for d-i somewhere that I'm missing?  All I've found so far is http://wiki.debian.org/DebianInstaller/Preseed which is pretty small and out of date
[20:05] <jey> ito, there's also pentadactyl, but I think vimperator is more poopular
[20:05] <ito> im looking for a firefox mod that makes firefox look like the following: http://ompldr.org/vMzVtZA
[20:05] <jrib> ito: vimperator or pentadactyl (newer fork)
[20:05] <roasted> JEAT: the Windows boot loader doesn't play nice with dual boot. You'll need to use Grub. You can likely recover Grub manually by booting to your flash drive (live session) and running a few commands.
[20:05] <jey> ito: I understand, http://vimperator.org
[20:05] <violinappren> Debro: then you need an some sort of an "unattended install"
[20:05] <ito> thnks jey
[20:05] <JEAT> alright do you have a guide for that?
[20:05] <acicula> roasted: it has cli tools yes, it hooks into the login process, if a particular directory is in your home it will try to unwrap the encryption key with your login password and mount whatever directories need mounting using cryptfs
[20:06] <acicula> roasted: the default mount is to just mount your entire home, but you can set that to something else
[20:06] <finish06> is it possible to change sticky-edges minimum speed barrier for my mouse to travel trhoguh?
[20:06] <roasted> JEAT: looking now...
[20:06] <freebird> you guys, I've just installed ubuntu
[20:07] <roasted> JEAT: http://www.webupd8.org/2009/12/how-to-recover-grub2-linux.html
[20:07] <pilot231> Hi does anyone know if it would be possible to host a DNS server from a dyndns address?
[20:07] <JEAT> awesome thanks a bunch roasted
[20:07] <jey> pilot231, that has nothing to do with dyndns
[20:07] <gameid> thanks MonkeyDust, I dont see how to enable globalmenu tho. packages seems to be installed
[20:07] <roasted> JEAT: good luck bro!
[20:07] <violinappren> !ot | pilot231
[20:07] <MonkeyDust> gameid  find it in the software center, it's in the repos
[20:07] <freebird> and my screen resolution, wont go higher than 800x600, but in win 7, I was able to go 1024x768, I've a hp mini, 210-1000
[20:07] <violinappren> pilot231: but it should be possible, or better, ask them :)
[20:08] <freebird> what do you guyst suggest ?
[20:08] <nmittal> hi i installed the nvidia driver and now the screen resolution is at 640 480... now able to change it as I dont see the full window.. any ideas on how i can fix this?
[20:08] <mystblade9> I'm at the part of the installer where it asks how much drive space you want to allocate for Windows 7 and Ubuntu, but it's not displaying any pictures on top so I don't know which side represents Windows and which represents Ubuntu. Which side represents Ubuntu?
[20:08] <finish06> freebird, hit the windows key to brign up dash home and then type in driver
[20:08] <finish06> select aditional drivers, and see if your driver is installed and if not, install the recommended one
[20:09] <computa_mike> found out that a sql lite db issue caused 12.04 search to fail - there's a page here about this : http://askubuntu.com/questions/125843/dash-search-gives-no-result
[20:09] <pipegeek> hahahah it's possible it's just not seeing my preseed at all
[20:09] <pilot231> right I will run my own BIND9 DNS server but I dont have a static IP address to run it from so I was hoping that I could use the
[20:09] <n00bguy> hi people
[20:09] <n00bguy> i need some help with 12.04
[20:09] <pilot231> dyndns address to point to the nameserver.
[20:09] <freebird> finish06, nothing happens when hitting the win key
[20:09] <violinappren> !details | n00bguy
[20:09] <n00bguy> is this the right channel for getting help with 12.04  ?
[20:09] <frewsxcv> I just set up a RAID, what is the most common disk label to use?
[20:10] <a_b0y> mystblade9 i agree the partition in the ubuntu installer is confusing
[20:10] <finish06> freebird, well go up to the dash home (icon on the top left that has a ubuntu sign in the middle of it
[20:10] <violinappren> n00bguy: yes
[20:10] <pipegeek> yay!  that was easy
[20:10] <mystblade9>  a_b0y: Well, it used to display pictures that showed what was Ubuntu and what was the other OS..
[20:10] <n00bguy> @ubottu , violinappren i have an annoying bar on left of my desktop
[20:10] <caseymcgt> update manager returns OUT OF DISK SPACE when upgrading to 12.04 !!???  My root partition has 2.4GB free
[20:10] <Combatjuan> violinappren: Ok.  Back from my fact finding adventure.  lspci says I have 00:19.0 Ethernet Controller Intel Corporation 82579LM Gigabit Network Controller (rev 04)
[20:10] <n00bguy> earlier it would appear only when i pressed windows(mod+4) key to launch unity
[20:11] <violinappren> n00bguy: ubottu is a bot not a human, and do you mean the launcher?
[20:11] <n00bguy> now it's there all the time..very annoying
[20:11] <Combatjuan> lsmod says "e1000e     136301     0"
[20:11] <MonkeyDust> n00bguy  that's the launchbar
[20:11] <n00bguy> yaa, yaa
[20:11] <freebird> finish06, sorry man, I'm already using the classic view
[20:11] <freebird> no left menu bars, no where to type driver
[20:11] <freebird> finish06,
[20:11] <n00bguy> i will try to grab a screen capture & upload on imgur, give me a min
[20:12] <epod> Hi, when I try and run Wow in Ubuntu, the following happens.. : aoss wine Wow.exe
[20:12] <epod> ERROR: ld.so: object '/usr/lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/libaoss.so' from LD_PRELOAD cannot be preloaded: ignored.
[20:12] <finish06> freebird, did you choose to install classic view?
[20:12] <epod> padsp gives a similar error
[20:12] <violinappren> Combatjuan: what ubuntu version are you using?
[20:12] <n00bguy> @MonkeyDust, is there a way to remove it
[20:12] <freebird> I've changed finish06
[20:12] <freebird> when logging in
[20:12] <freebird> finish06,
[20:12] <Combatjuan> pcimodules shows only a few things none of which is e1000e.  /usr/share/misc/pci.ids has a list of... I guess hardward constants?  I didn't have the one for this device (8086...1502)
[20:12] <epod> can anyone help me figure out how to resolve this? I cant have sound in Wow and any other app at the same time
[20:12] <Combatjuan> violinappren: Lucid
[20:12] <gameid> MonkeyDust: If all globalmenu does is move the menu (File, Tools etc) to the top of the screen (Unity bar), I already have that. But buttons to close/minimize are missing
[20:12] <epod> I thought aoss and padsp were supposed to fix those issues?
[20:13] <mystblade9> The Ubuntu installer is not showing which side represents what OS when I choose "Install Ubuntu alongside Windows 7". How do I find out?
[20:13] <a_b0y> just guess :P
[20:13] <finish06> freebird, then go to settings and look for the driver option wtihin there
[20:14] <epod> These errors only bring up search results from 2007!
[20:14] <mystblade9> a_b0y: I'd rather not shrink my Windows partition to 100GB.
[20:14] <eutheria> i am scared, i am sure my laptop will become a brick
[20:15] <Monotoko> hey guys... how can I get something off a Ubuntu encrypted ext4 partition? I know the password, but not the passphrase :/
[20:15] <Drone4four> grub2 failed to install at the end of a 12.04 installation on a live-USB.  Full error log here: http://paste.ubuntu.com/950561/
[20:15] <Monotoko> is there any way I can generate the passphrase from the password?
[20:15] <MonkeyDust> mystblade9  before installing, use gparted to see how your disk is organised
[20:15] <a_b0y> i was trying to install dual boot but the grab2 messed up my computer so i had to just install ubuntu erasing my windows :(
[20:15] <n00bguy> how do i get rid of the annoying lauch bar on the left side of my desktop ...     http://imgur.com/Kle6q
[20:15] <Qazjap11> Hi, If try to restore a file from ext4, I know the inode number, but tools like ext4magic and extundelete say it cannot be found in journal, are there other options to do so? Thanks.
[20:16] <Monotoko> n00bguy, you can set it to auto-hide
[20:16] <cute_bettong> n00bguy, you don't
[20:16] <MonkeyDust> !nounity| n00bguy
[20:16] <Monotoko> n00bguy: http://askubuntu.com/questions/9865/how-can-i-configure-unitys-launcher-auto-hide-behavior
[20:16] <Monotoko> cute_bettong, I think he just means hide it
[20:16] <pipegeek> iiii see what happened, and it's me being dumb
[20:16] <Monotoko> while he's in an app
[20:17] <cute_bettong> Monotoko, ah okies
[20:17] <n00bguy> Thanks @ubottu, what does !classic mean ?
[20:17] <nmittal> how do i fix the screen resolution when i cant even see the full window??
[20:17] <MonkeyDust> !classic
[20:17] <solexious> when I do-release-upgrade on my 10.04 server I get "No new release found" any ideas why?
[20:17] <zykotick9> MonkeyDust: feel like updating the !nounity factoid to include 12.04's gnome-session-fallback package?  anyone else?
[20:17] <Monotoko> MonkeyDust, I think we need to update those
[20:18] <n00bguy> @Monotoko, i was about to write, how to set it to auto-hide, thanks for the info & the accurate pre-emption of my next q. :)
[20:18] <MonkeyDust> yes, looks like it
[20:18] <mystblade9> MonkeyDust: The Windows partition is the only one on the disk.
[20:18] <Monotoko> n00bguy, no problem pal :)
[20:18] <mystblade9> MonkeyDust: So does Ubuntu place it before or after the Windows 7 partition?
[20:18] <n00bguy> everybody is using !classic, kind of foxed as to what does that mean ?
[20:18] <violinappren> Combatjuan: sudo modprobe -r e1000e
[20:18] <violinappren> Combatjuan: then: sudo tail -f /var/log/syslog
[20:18] <Drone4four> grub2 failed to install at the end of a 12.04 installation on a live-USB.  Full grub2 boot repair error log here: http://paste.ubuntu.com/950561/
[20:19] <epod> So I'm having issues with a bug that, from a quick google, goes back to 2007.  What kind of unprofessional hacks leave a bug for FIVE YEARS!?
[20:19] <Combatjuan> violinappren: Be back in a bit.
[20:19] <Monotoko> alright... can I get my encryption passphrase if I know my password?
[20:19] <violinappren> Combatjuan: then in another terminal: sudo modprobe e1000e
[20:19] <freebird> finish06, additional drivers ??
[20:19] <violinappren> Combatjuan: and see what messages are recorded in system log
[20:19] <jlsjonas> anyone else also experiencing firefox issues with the upgrade to 12.04?
[20:19] <epod> https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/alsa-oss/+bug/173487
[20:19] <jlsjonas> FF crashes after a min or 2
[20:19] <jlsjonas> and more importantly: anyone knows a fix/workaround?
[20:20] <shomon> hi, what's a good alternative to google docs that I can run from ubuntu? or where can I go to ask ?
[20:20] <aguitel> i am running xubuntu 12.04 with nvidia-current driver and glxgears say:37 frames in 5.1 seconds =  7.300 FPS ,why ?
[20:20] <tim__> @shomon google docs is the best writer out there libre office is a good alt
[20:20] <Monotoko> shomon, openoffice+ ubuntu cloud?
[20:20] <n00bguy> @Monotoko, you mentioned auto hide, is there a way to permaneant....ntly get rid of it, since i can press windows key & type in the unity bar to launch whatever i want...launch bar seems kind of redundant
[20:20] <Monotoko> *libreoffice
[20:21] <freebird> you guys, I've a hp mini 210-1000 and in win7 I can go 1024x768, but in ubuntu, I can only go 800x600, what should I do ? I'm using the classic theme
[20:21] <shomon> Monotoko, is that real time collaborative?
[20:21] <violinappren> shomon: libreoffice? abiword?
[20:21] <Monotoko> shomon, libreoffice? Yes
[20:21] <n00bguy> @Monotoko, i meant, is there a way to permanently disable/hide the launch bar ?
[20:21] <shomon> thanks tim__ but I need something for shared file access: so that when one person is editing a document the others find it locked
[20:21] <jaxxdrew> What is the command to get temperature sensor per core
[20:21] <shomon> or more like piratepad.net - so they all edit at the same time
[20:21] <Monotoko> n00bguy, hmm... I'm not sure, I don't think there is... but there will be a hack to do it
[20:22] <Combatjuan> violinappren: Removing the module doesn't add anything to syslog, installing it adds two lines: The model of the card, then a copyright notice.
[20:22] <MonkeyDust> n00bguy  the bar is part of Unity, i guess you want another desktop environment or different ubuntu for, like xubuntu
[20:22] <zykotick9> jaxxdrew: when i run "sensors" in a terminal it reports two separate core temps?
[20:22] <MonkeyDust> for = fork
[20:22] <shomon> Monotoko, ok will look up how libreoffice can be used to edit in real time in a group
[20:22] <violinappren> Combatjuan: now in another terminal, try: sudo ifconfig eth0 up
[20:22] <marcm> who's bright idea was it to make the text based installer in Ubuntu 12.04 purple-pink (or is it hypercolor)? It looks like crap, it hurts my eyes...
[20:23] <Monotoko> shomon, ahhh real time editing... hmm, I don't think it can do that no
[20:23] <tim__> @shomon hmmm.... set up a web ftp with different user accounts
[20:23] <zykotick9> marcm: +1
[20:23] <jlsjonas> shomon: why can't you just use google docs?
[20:23] <shomon> Ahh thanks Monotoko saved me lost time there :)
[20:23] <n00bguy> Thanks Monotoko, MonkeyDust
[20:23] <freebird> please you guys, how do I know if I can go higher than 800x600 in my hp mini 210-1000
[20:23] <nmittal> Monotoko, ++
[20:23] <Monotoko> nmittal, hey pal :)
[20:23] <shomon> jlsjonas, I can't depend on it - very fragile business model, and the data has to be secure
[20:24] <finish06> does anyone know of a reason why alt+tab would cause my computer to freeze???  i cannot use alt-tab... anythign I can send to help youfigure it out?
[20:24] <tim__> shomon google docs is great :d i use it all the time, but libreoffice is the offline solution
[20:24] <Drone4four> this is chaos
[20:24] <shomon> also jlsjonas I'd rather use an open source solution and promote that
[20:24] <n00bguy> cant tell u how glad i am to get rid of the monstrosity that is the launch bar, hogging precious real estate on my laptop screen :)
[20:24] <Monotoko> Drone4four, what is?
[20:24] <nmittal> Monotoko, just excited to be on 12.04 and thanks to you :)
[20:24] <Drone4four> this channel
[20:24] <cute_bettong> n00bguy, you do realise you can resize that bar right?
[20:24] <violinappren> shomon: abiword has collaborative editing, but i never used it
[20:24] <LjL> Drone4four: not surprising, it's one day after a new release
[20:25] <MonkeyDust> n00bguy  use MyUnity to resize the bar
[20:25] <Monotoko> Drone4four, it will calm down over the next few days :) and nmittal no problem pal, I always have issues with my boot order, that's why I thought of it when I saw your fdisk ^^
[20:25] <Combatjuan> violinappren: "No such device".  And ls /dev/eth0 says the same and ls/dev/net shows only "tun".
[20:25] <Drone4four> i've got a 1024x768 resolution becasue i am running a live-USB with nomodeset and this channel is so packed
[20:25] <n00bguy> @cute_bettong, didnt know, how to resize ?
[20:25] <jlsjonas> anyone knows what the firefox (beta) issue might be?
[20:25] <jlsjonas> (that it crashes after a min on 12.04)
[20:25] <steveccc> i have done an installation of ubuntu and have an existing home partition on the disk - whats the best util to alter the fstab - is it just terminal and vi?
[20:25] <Combatjuan> violinappren: Is it possible I have to manually call mknod or makedev or something (I'm just randomly guessing at this point).
[20:26] <pndemc_> I'm setting up a tf2 srcds server, and a few guides mention "screen.i386" for running the server, can someone explain this to me? what is it, and why do I need it?
[20:26] <zykotick9> steveccc: are you comforable with vi?  do you want a gui app?
[20:26] <Surlent777> hey; another upgrade-issue person, oneiric to precise; having trouble upgrading because of some badly-made printer driver package apparently. Running 64-bit, has some 32-bit package I don't entirely recall installing called lexmark-08z-series-driver:i386 with a blank line in "Description" that is making dpkg/apt-get cry. Suggestions on how to proceed?
[20:27] <finish06> freebird, then go to settings and look for the driver option wtihin there
[20:27] <n00bguy> @MonkeyDust thanks for the MyUnity suggestion, but the auto-hide worked...so seems good for now
[20:27] <zykotick9> steveccc: nano is more popular then vi 'round here.  i know of no tool to edit /etc/fstab (doesn't really need one ;)
[20:27] <Surlent777> correction: almost certain now that this driver is for a printer laying around the house and may have been gotten from their website. Either way, suggestions?
[20:27] <n00bguy> Is MyUnity fairly light though, roughly how big(disk size) ?
[20:28] <freebird> finish06, man, I've asked, the only where I can see the word drivers are 'adittional drivers'
[20:28] <cute_bettong> n00bguy, check your im's
[20:28] <Surlent777> ah, also, and is it expected for it to remove the unity package? was that renamed to something else?
[20:28] <steveccc> zykotick9: yes fine with vi - have always done it that way
[20:28] <freebird> finish06, it's in there I should go ???
[20:28] <wart___> i'm stumped; i did an apt-get install fvwm and it added Fvwm to the lightdm/ubuntu-greeter; but I did a grep -r Fvwm /etc and I can't find the config file it modified
[20:28] <wart___> I want to add another window manager to the login / greeter screen.
[20:28] <Monotoko> n00bguy, it's only a couple of megs... it'll tell you before you apt-get
[20:28] <Monotoko> (confirm)
[20:28] <MonkeyDust> n00bguy  MyUnity is in the repes, the software center, so to say
[20:29] <MonkeyDust> repos*
[20:29] <violinappren> Combatjuan: no
[20:29] <n00bguy> Thanks Monotoko, MonkeyDust
[20:29] <Monotoko> MonkeyDust, it's in the official repos now?
[20:29] <n00bguy> This channel is AWESOME, keep up the great work folks
[20:29] <MonkeyDust> Monotoko  yes, i already installed it
[20:29] <n00bguy> ciao for now
[20:30] <Combatjuan> violinappren: That's a refreshingly clear answer.  Thanks.  (-8
[20:30] <violinappren> Combatjuan: add this to /etc/modprobe.conf: alias eth0 e1000e
[20:30] <MonkeyDust> !info myunity | Monotoko
[20:30] <violinappren> Combatjuan: and try modprobe -r and modprobe again
[20:31] <ubuntu__> Hi, how do I activate my second minitor to get an extended desktop?
[20:33] <Surlent777> ubuntu__: should just have to plug it in and go to system settings and turn it on with "Screens" or "Monitors" or however it's labeled; should be fairly straightforward. If you're using an NVIDIA graphics card and have the proprietary driver installed, use "nvidia-config" instead but basically the same idea
[20:33] <Combatjuan> violinappren: Nope.  I also tried rebooting with that parameter.  I also tried finding 'eth' or 'e1000e' anywhere in /dev.   Nothing.
[20:33] <avinashhm> Hi , i get the error - "nl80211 not found" when i try to do iwconfig .. is there any thing i need to install to avoid this error ..
[20:34] <violinappren> Combatjuan: do you have the alias in your modprobe.conf ?
[20:34] <Combatjuan> violinappren: Correct.
[20:34] <Combatjuan> yes
[20:34] <finish06> freebird, yes, additional drivers... sorry about delay, system froze
[20:34] <Combatjuan> I have tried with and without.
[20:34] <freebird> finish06, I'm in here, what should I do now ? says nothing in her
[20:34] <freebird> e
[20:35] <ubuntu__> Surlent, thank you. I have one lcd connected to internal intel graphic card. Which works.  The main monitor is connected at a ATI Radeon HD 6570. I could see that screen to show something during bootup, but now only the intel screen runs ok and the other one is off. Detect Displays doesnt work
[20:35] <Surlent777> ubuntu__: if you're on a laptop, you may need to press Fn+whatever key has a picture of two monitors on it
[20:35] <finish06> freebird, nothing is present under additional drivers after you type in your password
[20:35] <finish06> ?
[20:35] <freebird> only a lan card
[20:36] <ubuntu__> its a PC (Dell Optiplex 990)
[20:36] <freebird> finish06,
[20:36] <Surlent777> ubuntu__: other than that, I'm not sure what to suggest at this point, as I've never worked with ATI cards :/
[20:36] <ubuntu__> :( Thanks for your help though
[20:36] <Surlent777> ubuntu__: I guess make sure you have the latest appropriate drivers?
[20:36] <freebird> finish06, wireless, nothing else
[20:36] <ubuntu__> I just downloaded 12.04 64 bit
[20:37] <Surlent777> ubuntu__: I think ATI has a proprietary one you may need; have you looked at the restricted Drivers menu item yet?
[20:37] <symaxian> So rhythmbox wont open an mp3 file with an unknown artist?
[20:37] <finish06> ok...  what is your video card?  (is your computer a laptop or a desk top?)
[20:37] <Purdy> i just upgraded to 12.04 and now i cannot get eclipse to start ... i get a pointer to this log file: http://pastebin.com/UgMX73cL
[20:38] <Purdy> can't find anything promising via google ... i do have eclipse-platform installed ... any ideas?
[20:38] <root> Lol
[20:38] <freebird> finish06, netbook
[20:38] <finish06> freebird, where did you go to realize you cannot change the desktop deminsions?
[20:38] <Waraudon> I have 12.04 installed and functioning, but apt-get upgrade results in "linux-generic-pae" and "linux-image-generic-pae" being "kept back". Is that normal?
[20:38] <freebird> hp mini 21--1000
[20:38] <freebird> finish06,
[20:39] <freebird> finish06, because it doesn't has the option 1024x768
[20:39] <Surlent777> Waraudon: it might mean some dependencies haven't caught up yet or you might need to try sudo apt-get dist-upgrade. HOWEVER, be careful if you do so and review potential changes very carefully.
[20:39] <_k> ubuntu 12.04 wont recognize my second monitor (it refers to it as a laptop) so i cant extend the displays, is this fixable?
[20:39] <Purdy> (asking in #eclipse ... maybe that's a better place)
[20:39] <freebird> finish06, right click at the Desktop ..
[20:41] <Waraudon> Surlent777: My guess is that some dependencies aren't updated. Right now I'm running 3.2.0-23-generic-pae, which I think was installed from the installation media
[20:41] <jaxxdrew> in triple screen why am i getting white on two of the screens.  Just white?
[20:41] <finish06> freebird, I don't know man, sorry... I figured you didn't have appropriate drivers install @ first, yet it appears you do...
[20:41] <copacetic> I am installing 12.04 on a brand new HP PC with windows already installed on it,  I had it resize the windows partition and install along side windows, when I reboot though it just boots straight into windows, i dont get a bootloader, any suggestions?
[20:42] <freebird> finish06, wow man, yuo took 30 minutes to say that
[20:42] <freebird> finish06, tks mann,
[20:42] <freebird> tks a lot
[20:42] <jatt> it is normal that radeon cards overheat with the open source drivers
[20:43] <e11bits> I would like to modify an existing package and offer that variant to the public. Is there some howto that describes how to do this, so that both packages could be installed simultaneously on a system (using the alternative mechanism)?
[20:44] <ubuntu__> ah I have posted it here and it seems someone is helping me investigating this issue with some weird commands :) http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=11880564#post11880564
[20:44] <RobbieCrash> I'm moving a server to new hardware. I've taken an image, but the new hard drives are bigger. HOw do I get Ubuntu to see the additional space once the image is set?
[20:44] <JessicaW> looking for help mounting a windows share. after update can no longer mount shares off windows XP. Can mount from win7 and 2008 server shares
[20:44] <ubuntu_____> hello , I have downloaded ubuntu 12.04 and i want to install it on a sata hard disk with only / and /home both with lzo compression .. the installer has no options ?
[20:45] <RobbieCrash> JessicaW what happens when you try? Can you see the shares?
[20:45] <freebird> you guys, I've a hp mini 210-1000 and in win7 I can go 1024x768, but in ubuntu, I can only go 800x600, what should I do ? I'm using the classic theme
[20:45] <JessicaW> no. I get an error
[20:45] <nmittal> hi..i have 3 monitors.. and using nvidia settings i created 2 x-screens.. 1 with 1 monitor and 2nd with 2 monitors.. however on the 2nd xscreen all i see is a grey screen with a cross for mouse pointer.. is this normal?
[20:45] <Surlent777> RobbieCrash: to increase the size of the space, copy the image as normal, and then simply run gparted or something and tell it to extend the partition to fill in the empty space
[20:45] <RobbieCrash> JessicaW what error?
[20:45] <JessicaW> RobbieCrash: one sec, let me pastebin it
[20:46] <JessicaW> RobbieCrash: http://paste.ubuntu.com/950790/
[20:46] <RobbieCrash> Surlent777, thanks. So CLI I guess just go through parted?
[20:46] <Surlent777> RobbieCrash: I think that should work. I've never tried it outside of gparted but the same principle should apply
[20:46] <JessicaW> RobbieCrash: I'm pretty sure it's the way that ubuntu is encrypting the info to windows xp
[20:47] <zocky> hello.
[20:47] <RobbieCrash> JessicaW you need to update your credentials. What are the permissions on the share?
[20:47] <zocky> i just upgraded to 12.04 and now my mouse and keyboard are dead
[20:47] <RobbieCrash> Surlent777 thanks
[20:47] <freebird> you guys, what would be a goog everest or HWinfo32 for linux ? ubuntu ?
[20:47] <JessicaW> RobbieCrash: credentials have been verified. permissions on the share are anonymous full control
[20:47] <zocky> i get the login screen (in wrong resolution) but i can't login
[20:47] <Surlent777> RobbieCrash: np. I managed to clone a 300GB hard drive and expand it to a TB drive through this method. Just be warned that the expansion can take more time than actually copying the image
[20:48] <rfm> copacetic: you probably missed where it asked if you wanted to install grub in the MBR of the disk, and it just installed it in the partition.  you should be able to run grub-install to install it on the disk (e.g. /dev/sda, not /dev/sda1).
[20:48] <xangua> how do I mount an iso¿ I want to use the alternate iso to upgrade from Lucid to Pangolin
[20:48] <JessicaW> RobbieCrash: this has always worked for me in the past. sudo mount -t smbfs //WINSERVER/D$ /illumina -o user=user,pass=password,dir_mode=0775,gid=1009,noperm
[20:48] <JessicaW> RobbieCrash: using smbfs because XP was having issues when I tried cifs
[20:49] <JessicaW> RobbieCrash: problems started after the updates on 4/17. Running 10.04 LTS
[20:50] <anternat> hello, how will i install tcl for 10.04?
[20:50] <L3top> I used to get those a lot on lucid JessicaW. I am trying to remember how it was resolved.
[20:50] <int19h> apt-get install tcl
[20:50] <colonelqubit> What's the suggest way to run the gnome magnifier in ubuntu 11.10?
[20:51] <JessicaW> L3top: anything will help. I"m pulling my hair out.
[20:51] <Surlent777> I'm trying to upgrade from oneiric to precise myself, and dpkg/apt-get are refusing to work, stranding me mid-upgrade, because of a printer driver package, lexmark-08z-series-driver:i386, that apparently has a "blank line in value of field 'Description'". apt-get upgrade --fix-broken isn't helping. Suggestions?
[20:51] <RobbieCrash> JessicaW try actually sharng the illumina folder instead of accessing through the admin share
[20:52] <int19h> Surlent777: remove the problem package, and after upgrade reinstall it
[20:52] <n1> anyone using ubuntu in vmware?
[20:52] <colonelqubit> Theoretically Orca screen reader should have a tab in its preferences to toggle the magnifier on/off, but that doesn't seem to be enabled in the build provided by unbuntu.
[20:52] <anternat> how will i know if tcl is installed?
[20:52]  * colonelqubit can't type
[20:52] <RobbieCrash> so mount -t smbfs //winserver/illumina ... instead of //winserver/d$/illumina ...
[20:53] <samer> how i can install app?
[20:53] <int19h> anternat: if you type the command, than it will be installed, unless it says that the installation failed
[20:53] <colonelqubit> Simpler question: Is Orca still a supported application in Ubuntu 11.10 or Ubuntu 12.04, or is it EOL?
[20:53] <L3top> JessicaW: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1593047 last two posts
[20:53] <anternat> i typed the command with sudo.that s aok
[20:53] <Surlent777> int19h: ...duh. That might work. Thanks. On a related note, when I tried to press tab to see if it would auto-complete, it said "/var/lib/dpkg/status:53532: expected a colon", and it said that sort of thing even before the upgrade. Happen to know anything about that?
[20:53] <cba123> I just did a fresh install of 12.04. I have an NVidia card, and enabled twinview, but now I have unity on both screens, and the mouse hesitates when moving between screens.  Does anyone know how I can change this behavior?
[20:53] <anternat> isnt tcl have command line like mysqld does?
[20:53] <samer> good morning
[20:54] <int19h> tcl is a shell
[20:54] <n1> evening here
[20:54] <toto__> hello
[20:54] <cba123> prevening here
[20:54] <anternat> int19h after apt-getting i typed tcl on shell but nothing happened
[20:55] <n1> anyone using ubuntu in vmware
[20:55] <DJones> cba123: If you go to your display settings, there is an option to enable/disable sticky edges, that seems to be what causes the hesitation moving from one screen to another
[20:55] <josefnpat> n1, virtualbox
[20:55] <anternat> exept that tcl isnt found error
[20:55] <toto__> using ubuntu 1204 on a 20" imac, when installing the ati/amd graphic driver, i can not see anything after restarting. How to revert to the default driver using a live usb disk ?
[20:55] <Surlent777> int19h: okay, actually, that doesn't work either, least not with apt-get or Synaptic. How can I force its removal even though apt-get wants to fix everything else first?
[20:55] <cba123> DJones, Thanks, I just found that one on google.  Can't seem to find the dual unity bar solution though.
[20:56] <nca> hi all, anyone had issues with javascript not working on 12.04 ?
[20:56] <cba123> DJones, Nevermind, got it.  Although, it thinks I'm on a laptop.
[20:56] <n1> josefnpat, are you connecting via yr. regular wlan router or usb wireless stick?
[20:56] <JessicaW> RobbieCrash: already did that
[20:56] <josefnpat> n1, I am using a loopback device
[20:56] <i7c> nca: java script in a browser?
[20:56] <n1> ...whatever that maz be..
[20:56] <jfreak53> Anyone good with mutt?  I'm having trouble with a gmail trash problem :(
[20:56] <josefnpat> I'm running ubuntu under ubuntu
[20:56] <n1> will browse...may
[20:57] <nca> i7c: yes, chrome, chromium & firefox
[20:57] <JessicaW> why would ls show me a directory like this: d?????????   ? ?     ?                 ?                ? backup
[20:57] <i7c> nca: usually js is completely interpreted by the browser. so if the browser runs js should too.
[20:57] <ubuntu_____> hello , I have downloaded ubuntu 12.04 and i want to install it on a sata hard disk with only / and /home both with lzo compression .. the installer has no options ?
[20:58] <beandog> uh I dont think ext4 supports lzo.  zfs, yah
[20:58] <izm__> On upgrade to 12.04, I lost desktop effects. i have radeon x1200, and can still run gl apps, but not gnome-shell.  anyone help me?
[20:58] <deranged_> JessicaW, have you tried using smbclient with debugging on maybe?
[20:58] <mrAlmond> Hi everyone
[20:58] <ubuntu_____> no i want to use btfs with lzo
[20:58] <nca> i7c: yes indeed, however across multiple broswers, getting the same issues. i.e. on newegg.com, the login tab is missing all texts and links
[20:58] <int19h> anternat: did you try apt-get -f ?
[20:58] <mrAlmond> I've just upgraded to 12.04 LTS
[20:58] <JessicaW> deranged_: nope. Not sure how to do that. One sec. let me google.
[20:58] <anternat> i didnt int19h
[20:59] <mrAlmond> but my pc stops at "Stopping system v runlevel compatibility"
[20:59] <i7c> nca: what about other pages? like irc webchats etc... and are you sure you didn't disable js?
[20:59] <n1> josefnpat, is it possible at all to bridge from ubuntu to wifi adapter built in a laptop through vmware? I am using usb
[20:59] <mrAlmond> this is very bad
[20:59] <n1> ...usb stick to connect to net
[20:59] <anternat> int19h the msg says tcl is already at last version
[20:59] <josefnpat> ni, in virtualbox one can choose what network adapters to use
[21:00] <nca> i7c: it's odd, some js elements seem to be working, but quite a few aren't, this is off a fresh install of 12.04, the only things migrated were .bashrc and google chrome settings
[21:00] <mrAlmond> how to fix "Stopping system v runlevel compatibility"
[21:00] <int19h> anternat: then it's installed
[21:00] <i7c> nca: mhm dunno, sounds to me like it's the page's fault and not your os ;)
[21:00] <zocky> anybody else have dead keyboard and mouse after upgrading to 12.04?
[21:01] <anternat> ok int19h letme proceed with egg
[21:01] <nca> i7c: I thought it could be, but it's across multiple pages, amazon.com, newegg primarily
[21:02] <finish06> what command in terminal shows me all of my harddrives and partitions?
[21:02] <toto__> how to disable proprietary display driver ?
[21:02] <beandog> finish06: fdisk -l
[21:02] <i7c> nca: very weird. maybe it's a connection issue and js can't load contents with ajax?
[21:02] <Surlent777> toto__: "Restricted Drivers" in the System menu
[21:02] <finish06> beandog, thz
[21:02] <toto__> Surlent777, using command line
[21:03] <Surlent777> toto__: no clue then, sorry
[21:03] <n1> josefnpat: thx for the info as I am a bit confused after info on some forum that it was not posslible via vmware
[21:03] <i7c> nca: are you using some kind of proxy?
[21:03] <jfreak53> finish06: also df -h for mounted ones
[21:03] <beandog> finish06: blkid is helpful too
[21:03] <nca> i7c: perhaps.... I was running 12.04 beta on my work machine without issues, and 11.10 was doing odd things at home
[21:03] <nca> i7c: I was, but just bypassed it as part of the troubleshooting
[21:03] <Surlent777> toto__: maybe try to apt-get remove all packages with nvidia or ati in the name?
[21:03] <finish06> jfreak53, beandog thanks!!  I am just needing to add some external drives to my /etc/fstab so they auto mount
[21:03] <nca> i7c: was running squid3 on the home server
[21:04] <beandog> finish06: add them as UUIDs, not device names
[21:04] <mrAlmond> guys what about "Stopping system v runlevel compatibility"
[21:04] <jfreak53> finish06: then fdisk was right
[21:04] <beandog> finish06: iow, use blkid
[21:04] <finish06> beandog, why?  what is the benefit?
[21:04] <beandog> finish06: in case device names change, it uses the disk ID
[21:04] <int19h> this is kind of odd.... ive changed the default media player to vlc everywhere i can find, but when ever i navigate to a DVD it still says "open movie player"
[21:04] <i7c> nca: well could be a proxy issue, try without
[21:04] <beandog> finish06: er, partition ID
[21:04] <finish06> kk thz
[21:04] <toto__> Surlent777, maybe you have not seen my first question : i can not use my computer after installing proprietary display drivers so i would like to disable them using a live usb disk to boot on
[21:05] <jfreak53> finish06: think of it as a finger print made by the OS, it won't change it
[21:05] <Surlent777> toto__: you'll have to chroot to your hard drive and then you can try to remove the packages
[21:05] <finish06> jfreak53, awe3some!
[21:05] <beandog> finish06: You can also label your partitions if you want
[21:05] <Surlent777> toto__: I don't recall 100% how to do that, but I know I've seen guides via google that explain how to do such a thing.
[21:05] <beandog> finish06: if that helps you keep track of em
[21:05] <JessicaW> deranged_: got this error with d5: SPNEGO login failed:
[21:05] <toto__> ok, i will try this way, thanks Surlent777
[21:05] <finish06> no, not interesting in keeping track of them.  i only use them to serve out media, so no really concern with them.
[21:05] <beandog> finish06: anyway, yah.  uuid is good enough
[21:06] <Surlent777> toto__: good luck; hope that helps
[21:06] <toto__> :)
[21:06] <lago0n> Most definitely, wasn't the wisest time for me.  Oh well.
[21:06] <i7c> nca: consider using vpn instead of proxy... much better :P
[21:08] <Surlent777> okay, so now my question is: how do I remove a package when dpkg/apt-get are complaining about everything being broken? I apparently can't fix this without removing a package, but I'm not allowed to remove the package.
[21:09] <Tux> Surlent777, can you paste the error
[21:09] <Surlent777> Tux: sure can, one momemt
[21:10] <Surlent777> moment even
[21:10] <JessicaW> why is ls showing me a directory as "d?????????   ? ?     ?                 ?                ? backup"
[21:11] <assurbanipal> hi guys, i am on 12.04 and i cannot install any gnome-shell extensions although i ve been trying for two days. I even reinstalled from different  image with no luck. can someone help me out of it?
[21:12] <branduren> is it possible to change the keys for switching desktop in gnome3 ? (I have already tried changing it at 'system settings'->'keyboard'->'shortcut' - Didn't work)
[21:13] <linuxuz3r> hi
[21:13] <linuxuz3r> is it safe to upgrade
[21:14] <zocky> linuxuz3r: depends
[21:14] <Tux> linuxuz3r, mostly
[21:14] <gogeta> linuxuz3r: yea mirrors are slow and upgrades sometimes go wrong
[21:14] <zocky> which means "no"
[21:14] <zocky> gogeta: i doubt that was my problem
[21:15] <Tux> Your best luck is a backup and complete reinstall
[21:15] <gogeta> zocky: ?
[21:15] <gogeta> Tux: i always had good luck after the mirrors where not laggy
[21:15] <Surlent777> Tux: http://pastebin.com/FKeJ0DfY
[21:15] <zocky> gogeta: it finished upgrading (I think), then it crashed on alt-tab, and now keyboard and mouse don't work anymore
[21:15] <zocky> i get the login screen but can't login
[21:16] <assurbanipal> hi guys, i am on 12.04 and i cannot install any gnome-shell extensions although i ve been trying for two days. I even reinstalled from different  image with no luck. can someone help me out of it?
[21:16] <gogeta> zocky: does it work in bash
[21:16] <zocky> gogeta: i can't get to bash
[21:16] <Tux> gogeta, I upgraded via mirrors.kernel.org
[21:16] <gogeta> zocky: are you shure its not frozen
[21:16] <zocky> gogeta: the clock keeps working, the caret keeps blinking
[21:16] <finish06> beandog, ... where should I moutn them too??  /?
[21:17] <zocky> the mouse pointer doesn't move, keyboard doesn't react to num-lock
[21:17] <zocky> the mouse led is continually on
[21:17] <gogeta> zocky: try letting it boot without them plugged in
[21:17] <zocky> gogeta: i have tried that
[21:17] <Surlent777> Tux: just noticed a mistake; I copied part of it by hand because the system is being a little weird; ${PackageSec} should read ${PackageSpec}
[21:17] <Tux> I see.
[21:17] <Surlent777> Tux: but either way, I'm caught in a loop
[21:18] <zocky> now it's gone into power save, so the monitor is off
[21:18] <gogeta> zocky: have you tryed failsafe mode in cli mode
[21:18] <zocky> gogeta: how?
[21:18] <gogeta> zocky: so x does not load
[21:18] <Tux> Surlent777, is your HDD on the verge of failing?
[21:18] <Surlent777> Tux: nope
[21:18] <Tux> okay
[21:18] <Surlent777> Tux: I rather doubt that would have anything to do with it though
[21:18] <gogeta> zocky: exc at grub slect the recovery kernel a menu should apper slect command line
[21:18] <gogeta> esc
[21:18] <Tux> sometimes it can
[21:19] <zocky> gogeta: i don't think there's a grub menu. i'll try escape after bios
[21:19] <gogeta> zocky: from there if the keybord works you can reconfigure x
[21:19] <gogeta> zocky: its there just hidden unless you press esc
[21:20] <Surlent777> Tux: either way, basically I can't continue with this package here, and yet I can't remove it because it being there interrupted everything and the system is considered "broken" and has to be fixed first. It's like a paradox.
[21:20] <jeinor> ok, so I upgraded to Precise, downloaded the manager for setting compiz settings (compizconfig-settings-manager), checked the option "Unredirect fullscreen window"
[21:20] <Tux> SuBmUnDo, try using dpkg to remove it?
[21:20] <jeinor> this made tearing issues go away in XBMC (as it did in Ubuntu 11.10)
[21:20] <N3M35I5> anyone know how i can restart all my centovacast streams at once?
[21:20] <jeinor> but it also made compiz crash after reboot, and now I can't get back into compiz
[21:21] <jeinor> anyone have any idea?
[21:21] <zocky> hmmm, interesting
[21:21] <gogeta> zocky: failsafe worked?
[21:21] <Tux> Surlent777, even
[21:21] <Tux> try using dpkg to remove it?
[21:21] <zocky> gogeta: i managed to get to the grub menu, but keyboard still didn't work. then I plugged it out and back in and it now works, in grub menu
[21:21] <zocky> i haven't gone on yet
[21:22] <assurbanipal> hi guys, i am on 12.04 and i cannot install any gnome-shell extensions although i ve been trying for two days. I even reinstalled from different  image with no luck. can someone help me out of it?
[21:22] <rebe> can I save program window position, so it starts in the same place every time ?
[21:22] <gogeta> zocky: lol do you have windows on hiobernate
[21:22] <gogeta> zocky: that will couse strange behaver
[21:23] <Tux> anyway, I have a quick question
[21:23] <zocky> gogeta: no, no windows on the machine
[21:23] <Surlent777> Tux: no dice. Whines about the blank line in 'Description'
[21:23] <zocky> gogeta: i chose "recovery mode", and the result is the same as before
[21:23] <gogeta> zocky: it didnt show a menu
[21:23] <zocky> no
[21:24] <gogeta> zocky: sounds like a power magment issue
[21:24] <Tux> Surlent777, paste the output of sudo grep -A 20 lexmark-08z-series-driver
[21:24] <pipegeek> Is there any way to force debian-installer to drop you to a shell, during a serial install?
[21:25] <bucky> pipegeek, Ctl Alt F2 or F3
[21:25] <ThinkT510> pipegeek: perhaps ask in #debian , ubuntu uses ubiquity
[21:25] <zocky> i guess I should try an older kernel, but will that work?
[21:25] <gogeta> zocky: i think some configuring didnt compleate
[21:25] <pipegeek> ThinkT510: Not on the server installer it doesn't, does it?
[21:25] <Tux> ThinkT510, that's for graphical Ubuntu
[21:26] <pipegeek> ThinkT510: At least, preseed seems to work the same way
[21:26] <Tux> this is text-mode Ubuntu install
[21:26] <zocky> gogeta: yeah, i suspect the same
[21:26] <pipegeek> bucky: not for serial.  That's only if you have physical access and can switch to a different console.  Over serial there's only one console
[21:26] <gogeta> zocky: if you can somehow send the command sudo dpkg --configure -a4
[21:26] <ThinkT510> pipegeek: ah, sorry didn't know you were asking regarding server
[21:26] <gogeta> 1no 4
[21:26] <gogeta> zocky: sudo dpkg --configure -a
[21:26] <pipegeek> I may ask in #debian, but I try to avoid asking questions there about ubuntu
[21:26] <Surlent777> Tux: that command seems to be taking a long time. Is that normal?
[21:26] <ddelony> Just curious, is it possible to use USB for a serial console?
[21:26] <gogeta> zocky: over ssh or something
[21:26] <bucky> pipegeek, screen ?
[21:27] <pipegeek> bucky: huh?
[21:27] <beandog> how in the world does ubuntu software center use half a gig of memory
[21:27] <int19h> %s/screen/tmux/
[21:27] <Tux> Surlent777, the file is large, so it's nirmal
[21:27] <ThinkT510> beandog: badly, thats how
[21:27] <Boreeas> Whats the advantage of building programs yourself versus installing them from the apt repo?
[21:27] <pipegeek> bucky: err, is screen available in the initrd that the server installer runs from?
[21:27] <pipegeek> I didn't think it was
[21:27] <int19h> screen hasn't been updated for years, tmux is a much better alternative for a terminal multiplexer
[21:27] <deranged_> JessicaW, that SPNEGO seems related to choosing the authentication type, maybe try adding sec=ntlm to -o
[21:27] <pipegeek> and I'm not sure how I'd launch it
[21:27] <bucky> pipegeek, maybe not
[21:27] <pipegeek> bucky: I don't think so
[21:27] <Surlent777> Boreeas: can be optimized for your architecture, or have certain things customized, or simply be a newer version
[21:28] <pipegeek> thanks for the suggestion!
[21:28] <JessicaW> deranged_: Ahhh. I didn't think of that. let me try it.
[21:28] <Boreeas> Surlent777: Ah, I see, thanks
[21:28] <Killuacba> Hi... can some 1 helpme? im just trying ubuntu (my first time using linux :$) and i cant install ubuntu... im using an older version cause ive a old laptop... the install freezes when "detecting filesystem"
[21:28] <finish06> I need help setting some external hdd to auto-mount plz
[21:28] <assurbanipal> hi guys, i am on 12.04 and i cannot install any gnome-shell extensions although i ve been trying for two days. I even reinstalled from different  image with no luck. can someone help me out of it?
[21:28] <gogeta> zocky: that should finish anything it didnt compleate
[21:28] <zocky> gogeta: no ssh it seems (i thought I had it running, but apparently not)
[21:28] <JessicaW> deranged_: nope. same problem.
[21:29] <zocky> or maybe it didn't get configured
[21:29] <int19h> gnome-shell extensions?
[21:29] <gogeta> zocky: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1965893
[21:29] <gogeta> zocky: how to do it from live cd
[21:29] <ddelony> Boreeas: Not necessary unless there's some functionality you really want that isn't compiled into the binary version.
[21:29] <Bender> can you help me setting up a remote controller hotkeys in ubuntu?
[21:29] <gogeta> zocky: yea that comand will finish it
[21:29] <zocky> gogeta: thanks for the link. I'm already downloading it.
[21:30] <Killuacba> Hi... can some 1 helpme? im just trying ubuntu (my first time using linux :$) and i cant install ubuntu... im using an older version cause ive a old laptop... the install freezes when "detecting filesystem"
[21:30] <deranged_> JessicaW, sorry im not much help, all my file shares come from samba boxes
[21:30] <ThinkT510> !lubuntu | Killuacba
[21:30] <mrAlmond> guys what about issues with intel graphics on ubuntu 12.04
[21:31] <spartan2276> How can I install gnome-shell-user-theme? When I try to install it It says it can't because it depends on gnome-shell-extensions which is already installed
[21:31] <mrAlmond> I can't boot
[21:31] <JessicaW> deranged_: thanks for trying... it's a real bear.
[21:31] <finish06> I need help auto-mount some hdd partitions on ubuntu 12.04 plz
[21:31] <JessicaW> deranged_: know any way to roll back to previous version of samba after an ubdate?
[21:31] <gogeta> mrAlmond: intels supoorts linux
[21:32] <int19h> the problem is not with samba, its with windows xp. its WAY past EOL
[21:32] <gogeta> int19h: xp is not eol still supported
[21:33] <int19h> 2k and xp are eol
[21:33] <wart___> sudo joe /etc/sudoers
[21:33] <gogeta> int19h: xp does not like seeing samba shares but if you type the ip by hand in most cases it works
[21:33] <auronandace> xpsp3 is supported until 2014
[21:33] <zocky> gogeta: hey, I managed to log in with one of the old kernels and am running dpkg --recofnigure now. thanks for your help.
[21:33] <spacebug-> wart___: that file should only be edited using command visudo
[21:33] <int19h> oh they extended it again
[21:33] <Audr> Hello everyone, can someone tell me why when using the command 'sudo apt-get update' my connection just hangs? I get this: 0% [Connecting to 24.23.109.60 (24.23.109.60)]
[21:34] <Audr> idk what that IP is
[21:34] <gogeta> zocky: is it configuring ALOT OF STUFF
[21:34] <Killuacba> Hi... can some 1 helpme? im just trying ubuntu (my first time using linux :$) and i cant install ubuntu... im using an older version cause ive a old laptop... the install freezes when "detecting filesystem"
[21:34] <int19h> to april 8th 2014.... *smh*
[21:34] <zocky> gogeta: yeah
[21:34] <Surlent777> Audr: could mean whatever that IP is pointing to is down
[21:34] <gogeta> zocky: thats where you failed then :)
[21:34] <assurbanipal> hi guys, i am on 12.04 and i cannot install any gnome-shell extensions although i ve been trying for two days. I even reinstalled from different  image with no luck. can someone help me out of it?
[21:34] <Audr> Surlent777, how do I get rid of the IP and have it point to the main servers
[21:34] <phpN00b> how do I upgrade from beta2 to the stable release?
[21:34] <Surlent777> Audr: I don't think you understand how an IP works. That site is possibly down, period
[21:35] <L3mce> EXTENDED support. Mainstream support ended 2009.
[21:35] <gogeta> Audr: in the update manager and settings
[21:35] <Audr> Surlent777, it causes all install from apt-get to hang
[21:35] <DJones> !final | phpN00b
[21:35] <zocky> gogeta: yeah, it seems that the unity3d alt-tab crashing bug applies to my system, and I triggered it while it was configuring the upgrade
[21:35] <Surlent777> Audr: it's going to do that, yeah
[21:35] <Audr> gogeta, where in the settings
[21:35] <Surlent777> Audr: and what site IS verifiably down from my end as well
[21:35] <Gallomimia> Audr i don't think the standard apt sources are on a 24.* address are they?
[21:36] <Audr> I have no idea Gallomimia . I don't remember putting in a proxy
[21:36] <Surlent777> I suspect it might be getdeb
[21:36] <Surlent777> checking now
[21:36] <Gallomimia> shouldn't it be looking at something with a domain name?
[21:36] <Audr> yes
[21:36] <Audr> doing 'echo $http_proxy' prints out a newline
[21:37] <Surlent777> okay, maybe not
[21:37] <Audr> well, a empty space rather
[21:37] <Gallomimia> well read /etc/sources
[21:37] <sebsebseb__> bye
[21:37] <sebsebseb__> bye
[21:37] <Audr> check for the IP in there Gallomimia ?
[21:37] <int19h> what are some major changes in the new lts version ?
[21:37] <Gallomimia> just read it and figure out what it SHOULD be
[21:37] <int19h> i dont see any difference between it and 11.10
[21:37] <Audr> ._.
[21:38] <Audr> Gallomimia, are you talking about sources.list ?
[21:38] <Gallomimia> just understand how sources and apt work. if you get software from an untrusted source, you can rest assured it will do something harmful to your system.
[21:39] <phibxr> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5-SmNPjMcRQ <- Live Q&A with Ubuntu-people!
[21:39] <krobertson> anyone experienced IO errors on precise under paravirtualized xen (using XenServer)?  http://paste.ubuntu.com/950921/ is the errors I'm getting
[21:39] <Surlent777> Audr: this 24.* seems to be a proxy. You can't use a proxy as a repository in sources.list.
[21:40] <Audr> Surlent777, yah I saw that it was a proxy. I don't know how to get rid of it
[21:40] <Surlent777> Audr: if it's in your sources.list, just open it up in a text editor, find it, and delete it
[21:40] <assurbanipal> hi guys, i am on 12.04 and i cannot install any gnome-shell extensions although i ve been trying for two days. I even reinstalled from different  image with no luck. can someone help me out of it?
[21:40] <solexious> my server upgrade to 12.04 quit during, how can I restart it?
[21:40] <Surlent777> Audr: if it's a network setting, look at your network applet and see if it's in there somewhere
[21:40] <Audr> Surlent777, I doubt it is. I just put in the default sources.list for 11.1
[21:40] <Gallomimia> oooh. 12.04 is the release date. not some stupid version number
[21:40] <Gallomimia> i get it.
[21:40] <JessicaW> is there any way to keep mount.cifs from encrypting the password?
[21:40] <Gallomimia> finally i get it.
[21:41] <Audr> Surlent777, how would I tell if it is a network setting?
[21:41] <Surlent777> Gallomimia: 12.04 IS a release number. The versions are marked by the year and month
[21:41] <Surlent777> Audr: if it's listed as a proxy of some sort in your network applet settings
[21:41] <Surlent777> Audr: or really at all
[21:41] <Audr> what file is that
[21:41] <Youssef_KH> peolpe help i forgot my password on ubuntu 12 lts
[21:41] <Gallomimia> what i mean is there's no 12.05 12.06 12.07
[21:41] <Youssef_KH> ???? help me
[21:41] <Surlent777> Gallomimia: ah okay
[21:42] <Gallomimia> the next version is scheduled for x and it's version number will be x
[21:42] <rebe> is it possible to use drive letters in terminal instead of "/media/sda*/" ?
[21:42] <Gallomimia> there are no letters.
[21:42] <Gallomimia> maybe you want to mount them as /c/ and /d
[21:42] <Gallomimia> or name it whatever you like
[21:42] <Gallomimia> read man mount
[21:42] <vantage> Hi all, having a small small issues with 12.04 at the moment. 1) avahi complains about having a .local domain on login. Not sure how to change/update that
[21:42] <Audr> Surlent777, what file would the network applet settings be in
[21:42] <Gallomimia> !mount::rebe
[21:42] <Surlent777> Audr: if you're in X/GNOME/Unity/whatever there should be a network applet in your system tray, or up in the corner, or something. Else, try looking under System in the main menu and look for network settings
[21:43] <Youssef_KH> you can assign to a global variable in shell
[21:43] <vantage> and 2) On one machine where the time should be, I just get the word "Time"
[21:43] <Audr> kk
[21:43] <Gallomimia> i think i know nothing about the robot
[21:43] <Audr> brb then
[21:43] <ghost_> Hi everyone i have a issue is it possable to install xorg from ubuntu 10.10 into 12.04 since it is the only one that detects my proper screen resoulution and needed settings for my lcd tv
[21:43] <Youssef_KH> liek C=/media/sd1
[21:43] <assurbanipal> hi guys, i am on 12.04 and i cannot install any gnome-shell extensions although i ve been trying for two days. I even reinstalled from different  image with no luck. can someone help me out of it?
[21:43] <Surlent777> rebe: the letters thing is a relic of MS-DOS. Unix-like systems using a different naming scheme
[21:43] <Gallomimia> ghost_: i should think your concern would be a bug report over the newer versions of softwares breaking your working system.
[21:44] <deranged_> JessicaW, maybe try all the sec= options in man mount,cifs and also --verbose? also isnt there an event log on the winxp side you could check?
[21:44] <Audr> Surlent777, nothing in the Network Settings area. No proxy that is turned on.
[21:44] <JessicaW> deranged_: haha. Great minds think alike. I'm trying the sec= options now.
[21:44] <rebe> gallomimia: not sure I understand, surlent777: maybe, but it's shorter :)
[21:44] <Audr> what is the grep command to search through the whole system for the IP
[21:45] <assurbanipal> hi guys, i am on 12.04 and i cannot install any gnome-shell extensions although i ve been trying for two days. I even reinstalled from different  image with no luck. can someone help me out of it?
[21:45] <ghost_> well its been through out the last few versions of ubuntu so i stayed wih 10.10 but its discontinued now so i am in a predictament because i always use that system for all my media
[21:45] <Gallomimia> rebe: it's possible to control where things are mounted, and name the exact directory and file names each drive is mounted at
[21:45] <Surlent777> Tux: seriously that command is still running this can't be right
[21:45] <Tux> hmm
[21:45] <Gallomimia> for example some people mount /boot and /home on different drives
[21:46] <Killuacba> O.o.... nice... i will try it... xD thx a lot ^^
[21:46] <gogeta> ghost_: you shold be able to upgrade it
[21:47] <acicula> ghost_: you are not able to set the resolution manually?
[21:48] <Surlent777> Tux: what is "grep -A 20 lexmark-08z-series-driver" supposed to find? Maybe we can cut to the chase some other way
[21:48] <Audr> Surlent777, is there any where else a proxy would be stored in? I checked in /etc/environment and it wasnt there
[21:48] <Gallomimia> !mount->rebe
[21:48] <Surlent777> Audr: I never tried to use one, so I'm not sure. :/
[21:48] <Tux> Surlent777, what dpkg thinks it is
[21:49] <Tux> There might be a syntax error...
[21:49] <Audr> Surlent777, lol. Problem is, I don't remember putting in a proxy
[21:49] <ghost_> i tryed upgrading before 10.10s life ended and it left me with the problem from up above and ive tryed a few different ways even useing xrandr cvt and gft but no avail because the resoulutionis 1360x768 i want to upgrade but idk if theres a way to generate my old xorg config and use it on the new set up or what
[21:49] <solid_liq> anyone know the name of that tool that will automatically check through available mirrors for your apt repository and select the fastest one?
[21:49] <Surlent777> Audr: could it perhaps be a setting in your router?
[21:49] <assurbanipal> hi guys, i am on 12.04 and i cannot install any gnome-shell extensions although i ve been trying for two days. I even reinstalled from different  image with no luck. can someone help me out of it? Can at least give me a response whether i m the only one with that problem or not?
[21:49] <Audr> maybe, i dont mess with the network. someone else might have
[21:50] <Audr> Surlent777, how would i check?
[21:50] <Surlent777> Audr: if you know your router's IP address (often something like 192.168.0.1, usually on a sticker on the router itself) and the user name and password for it, you may be able to check it through a web browser
[21:50] <meganerd> Audr: I just popped in, did you check to see if a shell variable was set?
[21:51] <Surlent777> meganerd: he tried echo $http_proxy
[21:51] <Audr> ^
[21:51] <Audr> It printed out a blank space
[21:51] <bc``> hallo
[21:51] <Audr> http proxy in /etc/environment is empty
[21:51] <bc``> i have a strange question that i am almost certain has not been asked before here
[21:51] <bc``> is it possible to put one monitor to sleep, but not the other one?
[21:52] <deranged_> use the power button?
[21:52] <Surlent777> Tux: I think locate might be helpful here. I got an instant list of things, including 5 hits in /var/lib/dpkg/info
[21:52] <bc``> i mean programmatically
[21:52] <Audr> meganerd, do you know the command to search the whole system for that IP ?
[21:52] <Tux> hmm
[21:52] <Tux> afk
[21:53] <machiolate> *** NEW UBUNTU RELEASE OUT ***
[21:53] <meganerd> Audr: grep -r x.x.x.x /
[21:53] <rfm> bc'' try xset dpms force off with DISPLAY set to :0.0 or :0.1
[21:54] <meganerd> Audr: grep -r x.x.x.x /*
[21:54] <Surlent777> micromatikal: I think we're all aware, but thanks
[21:54] <Audr> meganerd, whats up with adding the '*' ?
[21:54] <assurbanipal> hi guys, i am on 12.04 and i cannot install any gnome-shell extensions although i ve been trying for two days. I even reinstalled from different  image with no luck. can someone help me out of it? Can at least give me a response whether i m the only one with that problem or not?
[21:55] <meganerd> Audr: typo
[21:55] <meganerd> Audr: you also need to be root (aka use sudo)
[21:55] <dougb_freebsd> when I type 'ssh some.host' on the command line I'm not getting the good old gui password prompt, although ssh-agent and gnome-keyring are both running
[21:55] <Audr> meganerd, kk. What does -r stand for
[21:56] <dougb_freebsd> using seahorse I can see my ssh keys, and if I do 'ssh-add' on the command line it works
[21:56] <dougb_freebsd> any suggestions?
[21:56] <meganerd> Audr: if you want to get fancy and hide errors: "sudo grep -r / x.x.x.x 2> /dev/null"
[21:56] <meganerd> Audr: recursive
[21:56] <meganerd> Audr: grep --help
[21:56] <nannes> Why the installation process of the new Ubuntu Precise Pangolin does not ask me If I wanna do Manual partitioning?
[21:56] <Audr> meganerd, I wonder how long this scan will take
[21:57] <deranged_> a long time
[21:57] <Audr> deranged_, 30min long time?
[21:57] <Audr> or like a 'I love you long time' long time
[21:57] <Surlent777> I have now looked at dpkg's status file, and it's whining that there's a blank line, so I put a period on the blank line, and now it's still whining that there's a blank line.
[21:58] <deranged_> will depend on your system, how many files is it openeing to look for that text?
[21:58] <meganerd> Audr: depends on the size and speed of the disks, as well as the performance of the PC
[21:58] <Audr> deranged_, everything
[21:58] <Audr> meganerd, ah kk
[21:58] <deranged_> i would probably try in /etc first before i did in /
[21:58] <Audr> I should have hid errors..
[21:58] <meganerd> Audr: deranged_was more accurate, a 5 terabyte disk or array that is empty will be fast :)
[21:59] <Audr> maybe I should stop it now and check /etc/ first like he said
[21:59] <meganerd> Audr: yes I would start in /etc and your home folder before scanning the whole disk
[21:59] <Audr> kk stoped
[21:59] <Surlent777> okay, re-adjusting it slightly now works, now I have a new error
[21:59] <Surlent777> but I may be on the right track
[21:59] <Audr> stopped*
[21:59] <Surlent777> ON WITH THE HUNT
[21:59] <Bender> any help with key binding in ubuntu 12.04?
[22:00] <mrAlmond> I've intel hd gma
[22:00] <JessicaW> deranged_: hey, when I enable --verbose, shows me that the password is being encrypted. anyway to do this in plain text? pass=********
[22:00] <mrAlmond> and ubuntu 12.04 just updated does not work
[22:00] <meganerd> Audr: you could also use lsof to make sure that you are actually connecting to a proxy "sudo lsof -i:80,8080,3128"
[22:00] <mrAlmond> is there someone who can help me??
[22:01] <Surlent777> ha, it's working!
[22:01] <Audr> meganerd,  kk. it found it in /etc/apt/apt.conf
[22:01] <CJKay> FFFFFFFFUUUUUU Just spent half an hour installing the Teamviewer deb only for it to come up with THIS at the VERY last second:
[22:01] <CJKay> Failed to fetch http://ppa.launchpad.net/ubuntu-toolchain-r/test/ubuntu/pool/main/g/gcc-4.7/libgomp1_4.7.0-4ubuntu2_i386.deb 404  Not Found
[22:01] <Audr> meganerd, should i go erase?
[22:01] <meganerd> Audr: sudoedit /etc/apt/apt.conf
[22:02] <ximir> guys... I had some issue with this new 12.04 64bit
[22:02] <Surlent777> Tux: I know you're afk but realizing your intent led me to edit some dpkg files by hand, eliminating "blank spaces" that were unwelcome by inserting a period. Things are progressing now. Thanks for the help.
[22:02] <dougb_freebsd> mrAlmond: can you say a little more about the problem you're having?
[22:02] <meganerd> Audr: it is a shame I was not here earlier, that is the first place I would have had you look
[22:02] <Tux> yw ;)
[22:02] <meganerd> Audr: I should have read the entire history, sorry about that
[22:02] <Corey> CJKay: libgomp1_4.7.0-4ubuntu2_amd64.deb
[22:02] <JessicaW> anyone know how to keep mount.cifs from encrypting passwords?
[22:02] <Audr> meganerd, Tell me why it was also in /etc/environment
[22:02] <Corey> Er, whoops.
[22:02] <CJKay> Corey: I can't change that, it's what TeamViewer wants to install
[22:02] <Audr> meganerd, i dont know what specific files do what
[22:02] <Audr> meganerd, and should I set that to "" ?
[22:02] <Corey> Interesting, no 32 bit version available.
[22:02] <CJKay> Installing the deb through the software centre
[22:03] <CJKay> Gahhhh
[22:03] <meganerd> Audr: in apt.conf just delete the whole line
[22:03] <CJKay> What a waste of time and precious bandwidth
[22:03] <deranged_> JessicaW, i thought winxp does encrypt passwords?
[22:03] <Audr> meganerd, now should I clean or try the apt-get update
[22:04] <dougb_freebsd> ... meanwhile still looking for help with my ssh-agent problem if someone has a chance
[22:04] <jaxxdrew> What is there for a screensaver on 12.04?
[22:04] <JessicaW> deranged_: My feeling is, after two days of hammering at this, is that with the latest samba/winbind update on 10.04 something changed in the encryption methods and now XP can't understand it.
[22:04] <dougb_freebsd> jaxxdrew: ubuntu comes with xscreensaver enabled by default
[22:04] <Surlent777> jaxxdrew: nothing because GNOME is mean and spiteful. You can install XScreensaver though, which works nicely, even if it is ugly
[22:05] <jaxxdrew> thanks
[22:05] <CJKay> I'm not even sure why it's looking for i386 anyway. It's an amd64 system!
[22:05] <int19h> i just want my screen to shut off to save power after 10m
[22:05] <dougb_freebsd> JessicaW: it's not uncommon after upgrading samba that you have to recreate the password file
[22:05] <int19h> thats it
[22:05] <CJKay> Not to ention a 64-bit program too
[22:05] <Surlent777> int19h: how do you determine if there's activity on one monitor but not another? Most screensavers/power-savers look for keyboard or mouse input
[22:05] <meganerd> Audr: the apt.conf would have only set a proxy for apt/synaptic/aptitude etc., whereas the other one sets a variable that applies to all apps
[22:06] <JessicaW> dougb_freebsd: ohhh. how do you do that?
[22:06] <meganerd> Audr: gotta run, cheers
[22:06] <Audr> meganerd, interesting. And it works except for the Java files
[22:06] <Audr> meganerd, THANK YOU
[22:06] <Audr> you have saved a soul today
[22:06] <JessicaW> dougb_freebsd: also, my two others shares to windows 7 machines are working. Just not this one to XP.
[22:06] <Audr> leave knowing you have done the Linux god's work
[22:06] <meganerd> Audr: the apps still have to look for that variable
[22:06] <meganerd> Audr: most do, but there is no garuntee.
[22:06] <dougb_freebsd> JessicaW: smbpasswd
[22:06] <ThePendulum1> Is there a way to remove the Available/Away/Busy/etc. switches from the notification applet, without removing the entire thing?
[22:07] <Audr> kk meganerd
[22:07] <alvesjnr> hi. I created a new partition using cfdisk, and it looks okay:
[22:07] <alvesjnr> v
[22:07] <alvesjnr> /dev/sda5       443769079   447938559     2084740+  83  Linux
[22:07] <dougb_freebsd> JessicaW: is this for just one or two users, or lots?
[22:07] <alvesjnr> but when I do ls /dev/sda*, it is not there (??)
[22:07] <alvesjnr> any hint about what I'm doing wrong?
[22:08] <JessicaW> dougb_freebsd: lots.
[22:08] <dougb_freebsd> JessicaW: ok, that's not going to be a good solution then :)
[22:08] <dougb_freebsd> how did you get the passwords in originally?
[22:08] <JessicaW> dougb_freebsd: it was working fine... then installed some security updates of which winbind and samba were a part. and can no longer connect to the XP share
[22:09] <dougb_freebsd> JessicaW: I get that part :)
[22:09] <dougb_freebsd> .... thus my comment that it's not uncommon to need to rebuild the password file after upgrading samba
[22:09] <JessicaW> dougb_freebsd: sudo mount -t smbfs //WINSERVER/D /backup -o user=user,pass=password,dir_mode=0775,gid=1009,noperm
[22:09] <dougb_freebsd> how was your current password file originally created?
[22:10] <JessicaW> dougb_freebsd: I don't know. I wasn't here for that. I inherited this machine.
[22:10] <dougb_freebsd> Oh, so you're saying that if you execute that command line, it no longer works?
[22:10] <int19h> JessicaW: does it mount it and you just cant write to it, or it just activly rejects it
[22:11] <JessicaW> dougb_freebsd: correct. I commented out fstab for now and I'm just trying to get the command to work from CLI.
[22:11] <dougb_freebsd> Ok, crank up the debug level on smbd and look in the logs
[22:11] <JessicaW> verbose shows mount error(13): Permission denied
[22:12] <JessicaW> it's a NT_AUTH_LOGIN error
[22:12] <JessicaW> but I know the credentials are correct
[22:12] <twodogs> Trying to resolve a permission issue, tried to chown /etc/bind/slave to bind user... it took for a few minutes and then reset.
[22:12] <JessicaW> or... nt login something. hang on.
[22:12] <L3top> JessicaW I take it that post was not helpful? (was away) the last most especially?
[22:12] <JessicaW> [155559.961039] Status code returned 0xc000006d NT_STATUS_LOGON_FAILURE
[22:12] <JessicaW> [155559.961051]  CIFS VFS: Send error in SessSetup = -13
[22:12] <JessicaW> [155559.961066]  CIFS VFS: cifs_mount failed w/return code = -13
[22:14]  * L3top calls this a bug in 1004.
[22:14] <JessicaW> L3top: Yeah, I read through it. gave me some ideas, but no. Since it's local users on that machine it didn't work.
[22:14] <int19h> is it xp home, or xp pro ?
[22:14] <JessicaW> pro
[22:14] <int19h> hrmmm
[22:14] <JessicaW> it's VERY VERY frustrating.
[22:14] <L3top> It seems to have to do with the multiple requests in the pam... oh... oh I see.... yeah, you can't edit that many files.
[22:15] <JessicaW> verbose shows "mount.cifs kernel mount options: unc=//WINSERVER\D$,ver=1,rw,user=user,sec=none,ip=172.16.1.1,pass=********"
[22:16] <JessicaW> which was making me guess it has something to do with the password encryption. I tried all the different sec= options from man page.
[22:16] <dougb_freebsd> JessicaW: yeah, I was just going to suggest that
[22:16] <dougb_freebsd> IIRC xp encrypted its passwords differently than later versions, and there used to be a knob for htat
[22:17] <int19h> are you using mount -t cifs or mount -t smbfs ?
[22:17] <JessicaW> I've tried both
[22:17] <dougb_freebsd> haven't tried dealing with an xp system for a while though, so I'm not up to speed on any changes
[22:17] <L3top> Again... it seems to do with the multiple PAM_MOUNT calls in all of the configs. To be perfectly honest, I expect this bug to be exasserbated due to networking issues. I would stress test the network and see if anything can be addressed there.
[22:17] <JessicaW> also, I don't think it's just 1004. I installed 1204 on vmware real quick and had the same problrm.
[22:18] <L3top> It is in BOTH 1004 and 1204
[22:18] <L3top> it is not in the 11s
[22:18] <JessicaW> BOTH. IKR?
[22:18] <eutheria> oh the font rendering is so much better
[22:18] <JessicaW> dunno. don't have a copy of 11.
[22:18] <eutheria> and skype follows the gtk theme! yay
[22:18] <JessicaW> I could try it. would take like... 15 mins. but, when I install samba and winbind, it's going to be the same version for all three right?
[22:19] <int19h> did you try sec=none ?
[22:19] <JessicaW> I do a clean install, then apt-get samba winbind
[22:19] <JessicaW> yep
[22:19] <JessicaW> mount.cifs kernel mount options: unc=//WINSERVER\D$,ver=1,rw,user=user,sec=none,ip=172.16.1.1,pass=********
[22:19] <JessicaW> (that's the verbose output)
[22:19] <ztag100> hey,
[22:19] <JessicaW> p.s. thanks to all those helping out. This is a MOST perplexing issue.
[22:20] <int19h> it is indeed
[22:20] <JessicaW> BTW, just in case any of you missed it, my windows 2008 server shares and win 7 shares are working fine.
[22:20] <dougb_freebsd> JessicaW: do you have admin privs on the windows box?
[22:20] <michalchik> Hey folks
[22:20] <JessicaW> yes
[22:20] <deranged_> there must have been another change, the changelog for winbind and samba doesnt look like anything relevant lately, and you said it was just after a recent upgrade correct?
[22:20] <Drone4four> i've got 6 or more windows open from my last session with chromium and now that i am using unity i have to close a window to see the next one.  how do i cycle through different browser windows in unity?
[22:20] <int19h> iscsi ;)
[22:20] <ztag100> I'm about to setup a Dual-Boot, and an idea just occured to me, is it possible to put the "home" and "users" directory on the same partition?
[22:20] <JessicaW> yeah, I installed some updates 4/17
[22:20] <dougb_freebsd> JessicaW: try creating a user with no password, and see if that works
[22:20] <JessicaW> one sec.
[22:21] <michalchik> I have a weird problem with my printer. Anyone good with that?
[22:21] <JessicaW> this is what I installed http://paste.ubuntu.com/951036/
[22:21] <dougb_freebsd> ztag100: what users directory are you referring to?
[22:21] <ztag100> Window's
[22:21] <int19h> http://www.microsoft.com/en-us/download/details.aspx?id=18986 is the answer imo.... i just dont know what else you can do
[22:21] <mierker> HEY
[22:21] <ztag100> where you store your documents, pictures, music...
[22:22] <deranged_> libpass_smbclient
[22:22] <deranged_> i bet thats the one
[22:22] <JessicaW> dougb_freebsd: Will take me 5 mins. I don't hsve RDP enabled on that box and I"m going to have to walk down to the lab that it's in.
[22:22] <mierker> I need help
[22:22] <dougb_freebsd> ztag100: no, since the windows directory should almost certainly be ntfs, whereas your linux home directory should be ext[234]
[22:22] <harold> hi guys. I downloaded 12.04 beta 2 one week ago. What should I do now to get pu to speed?
[22:22] <ztag100> Ah, didn't think about that
[22:22] <dougb_freebsd> harold: first, download the actual release :)
[22:22] <ztag100> shoot
[22:23] <trism> !final | harold
[22:23] <int19h> harold: just apt-get update&&apt-get dist-upgrade
[22:23] <dougb_freebsd> ztag100: what you can do is set up a primary partition as fat32 and share it between systems
[22:23] <mierker> !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
[22:23] <mierker> I HELP!!!
[22:23] <FloodBot1> mierker: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[22:23] <dougb_freebsd> ztag100: that's what I do
[22:23] <harold> I downloaded the beta2 last week... is that the "dev version"? But ok, I'll try it out, thanks!
[22:23] <taime1> is there a way to manually start notify-osd?
[22:23] <dougb_freebsd> mierker: stop shouting, and ask your question
[22:24] <mierker> I want to install ubuntu 11.10
[22:24] <n1> anyone running ubuntu on vmware?
[22:24] <dougb_freebsd> harold: it would be faster and easier for you to install the new cd
[22:24] <dougb_freebsd> n1 yes
[22:24] <dougb_freebsd> mierker: that's not a question :)
[22:24] <mierker> i do not want unity
[22:24] <ztag100> dougb_freebsd: how does that work?
[22:25] <Takyoji[laptop]> For some reason my desktop freezes at gdm (no mouse/keyboard reaction), with a graphical issue, Xorg appears to have 100% CPU utilization, and Nouveau is being used, thoughts?
[22:25] <mierker> Please
[22:25] <mierker> Waht should i Do?=
[22:25] <escott> !nounity | mierker
[22:26] <dougb_freebsd> ztag100: it depends on how complex you want to get .... you can manhandle windows to make d:/data/user be the user directory, but that requires editing the registry
[22:26] <mierker> thats not possible
[22:26] <mierker> Gnome shell is not good
[22:26] <mierker> The fallback i hate
[22:26] <mierker> and unity is really shit
[22:27] <dougb_freebsd> ztag100: you may find it easier to just organize your files on the data directory, and create shortcuts in windows, and symlinks in ubuntu
[22:27] <Lint> that´s BS, I installed gnome-shell, but it fails to run
[22:27] <mierker> no wonder
[22:27] <ztag100> I just wan't someway to have one partition for all my media and files
[22:27] <deranged_> then use kubunut or xubuntu
[22:27] <dougb_freebsd> ztag100: win7 also gives you a little more flexibility in defining your libraries/folders for things like documents, photos, etc.
[22:27] <gogeta> mirak: you have other window managers
[22:27] <dlentz> mierker, so what desktop environment do you like?
[22:28] <Lint> dougb_freebsd, I doubt that you know what a shortcut is
[22:28] <dougb_freebsd> ztag100: yes, that is what I'm describing
[22:28] <mierker> Gnome 2
[22:28] <gogeta> mierker: give xfce a try then
[22:28] <deranged_> lol
[22:28] <mierker> no xfce has a big reason why i dont like it
[22:28] <dlentz> if fallback doesn't work for you, then try linux mint and use MATE or Cinnamon
[22:28] <L3top> That is tough Takyoji[laptop]... out of curiosity, what is the output of lspci -nn | grep VGA
[22:28] <gogeta> mierker: or mate
[22:29] <Lint> mate is unmaintained
[22:29] <taime1> how can i start notify-osd manually?
[22:29] <mierker> fallback works for me but it is not good
[22:29] <JessicaW> dougb_freebsd: created user with no password, verified share is set to everyone full control, anonymous login full control, and full control for that password-less users as well.
[22:29] <gogeta> Lint: sense when
[22:29] <dlentz> Lint, Mate is mainatained
[22:29] <mierker> XFCE i dont like because of the name
[22:29] <dougb_freebsd> Lint: rather than insulting my knowledge base, why don't you express your concern in a concise manner? :)
[22:29]  * L3top thinks some people need to come to grips with the fact that gnome is going away.
[22:29] <taime1> no way
[22:29] <Takyoji[laptop]> L3top: 05:06.0 VGA compatible controller [0300]: nVidia Corporation NV18 [GeForce4 MX 4000] [10de:0185] (rev c1)
[22:29] <gogeta> mierker: the name lol
[22:29] <taime1> it stays
[22:29] <taime1> gogeta: agreed.. lol
[22:29] <Kveras> Is there a way to make the Unity Launcher use the same solid color as the taskbar?
[22:29] <dlentz> mierker, then i think you're beyond help...
[22:30] <mierker> why
[22:30] <mierker> I want gnome 2
[22:30] <mierker> not others
[22:30] <gogeta> mierker: you can all it fail windows manager as long as it works well
[22:30] <dlentz> then use mate or just use lucid/10.04
[22:30] <JessicaW> dougb_freebsd: you can see there was no password this time from verbose output.
[22:30] <JessicaW> dougb_freebsd: mount.cifs kernel mount options: unc=//WINSSERVER\DDrive,ver=1,rw,user=testuser,ip=172.16.1.1
[22:30] <L3top> I believe that that chipset has fallen out of support Takyoji[laptop]. You might consider the nvidia proprietary driver... which... I think is 173... I will look it up.
[22:30] <n1> dougb_freebsd: I am connecting to net via usb stick (asked me automatically when installed it to use that connection) but would like to bridge ubuntu to built in wifi adapter in latop so it can recognize wireless networks in range. Installed wicd network manager and enabled bridge in vmware and updated ubuntu. any idea?
[22:30] <Lint> dougb_freebsd, shortcuts in windows are not related to symlinks in any way
[22:31] <dougb_freebsd> JessicaW: did the mount work though?
[22:31] <JessicaW> dougb_freebsd: nope
[22:31] <jeinor> In Ubuntu 11.10, I could tick the option "Unredirect fullscreen window" and it worked after reboots. When I tick this option in 12.04, Compiz crashes on reboot. Anyone know why?
[22:31] <JessicaW> dougb_freebsd: still getting that same error
[22:31] <ztag100> man, I hate windows...
[22:31] <JessicaW> dougb_freebsd: mount error(13): Permission denied
[22:31] <JessicaW> ME TOO.
[22:31] <Lint> ok, what I should do to make gnome-shell to work on ubuntu? it works in Fedoar, it works in opensuse, but not in ubuntu for some reason
[22:31] <gogeta> Kveras: yes install the myunity app it can adjust the transparency
[22:32] <L3top> yeah Takyoji[laptop]... you will have better luck with nvidia-glx-96. It is just quite old.
[22:32] <dougb_freebsd> Lint: yes, I understand that, but functionally they do similar things, and will solve his problem
[22:32] <dougb_freebsd> JessicaW: that's wacky
[22:32] <JessicaW> dougb_freebsd: it makes NO SENSE.
[22:32] <Kveras> gogeta, I tried this. but the panel is still transparent - even at 0% transparancy. I am using the radiance theme, and I think the launcher would look best if it was the same solid color.
[22:32] <Takyoji[laptop]> L3top: happen to know how to remove the nouveau package as well?
[22:32] <dougb_freebsd> ztag100: this is not a hard problem :)  I multi-boot my systems, and this solution works for me
[22:33] <JessicaW> dougb_freebsd: and, I just sent in our info to purchase canonical support for this. :|
[22:33] <L3top> sudo apt-get remove xserver-xorg-video-nouveau    Takyoji[laptop]
[22:33] <selite> GRUB doesn't load I get something like FILE BOOT/BCD because I ran chkdsk on win7 what should I do?
[22:33] <ztag100> dougb_freebsd: it's not cuz of that, I just REALLY don't like windows
[22:33] <taime1> how can i start notify-osd manually?
[22:33] <Takyoji[laptop]> L3top: thank you for your help, I'll see if it all works here in a moment
[22:34] <Lint> JessicaW, Ubuntu cannot mount shares on Windows servers
[22:34] <gogeta> selite: | !grub
[22:34] <ztag100> I'm being forced to use it (need to run a few apps and games) that are windows only
[22:34] <deranged_> JessicaW, the really annoying thing will be in the end it will turn out to be like one line on a config file or one switch in windows reg
[22:34] <gogeta> !grub
[22:34] <L3top> any time... I will be here if you have issues... make sure that on boot after install of nvidia that your xorg.conf reflects the driver change, ie replace Driver        "nouveau" with  Driver          "nvidia"  if neccesary Takyoji[laptop]
[22:35] <trism> taime1: just run it: /usr/lib/notify-osd/notify-osd; although there isn't any reason to, since it is started automatically when someone sends a notification
[22:35] <selite> gogeta: Well too bad that my laptop can't run the CD.
[22:35] <JessicaW> deranged_: Yeah. That's kinda what I"m thinking. a $700 one line change.
[22:35] <Lint> it will turn out that Ubuntu still doesn´t support NTLM2 in 2012, despite it was introduced in Windows 2000
[22:35] <gogeta> selite: then use a usd stock
[22:35] <gogeta> usb
[22:35] <dougb_freebsd> ztag100: fyi, the order I usually do things in when installing a new system is: 1. Boot ubuntu cd, use gparted to slice the disk, 2. install windows (in the first partition), 3. install ubuntu
[22:35] <mierker> does somebody has an idea
[22:35] <mierker> why ubuntu has made unity
[22:35] <JessicaW> Lint: Ubuntu can TOTALLY mount shares on windows servers.
[22:36] <gogeta> mierker: they didnt like gnome shell
[22:36] <ThePendulum1> mierker: Because Gnome 3 wasn't ready in time
[22:36] <taime1> trism: it isnt starting for some reason. thats why i want to try and run it manually
[22:36] <dougb_freebsd> ztag100: that will save you time and get grub installed without windows mucking it up
[22:36] <L3top> Takyoji[laptop]: I am not positive, but you may be able to run nvidia-xconfigure   or perhaps it is nvidia-xconfig...
[22:36] <mierker> ThePendulum1: that is not right
[22:36] <Lint> JessicaW, not on 2003+/Vista+
[22:36] <gogeta> mierker: the hate is unfounded with 12.04 its snappy does what it needs to do and stable
[22:36] <ztag100> two partitions?
[22:36] <mierker> ThePendulum1: gnome 3 was ready
[22:36] <dougb_freebsd> ztag100: 3 ... one for windows, one for your data, one for ubuntu
[22:37] <gogeta> mierker: gnome 3 at launch was horrrid
[22:37] <dougb_freebsd> (actually I use a lot more than 3, but I'm keeping it simple )
[22:37] <mierker> but nothing was as horrible as units
[22:37] <ztag100> where should I put the data partition
[22:37] <mierker> but nothing was as horrible as unity
[22:37] <ThePendulum1> mierker: It wasn't ready (enough) at the time they needed to implement it and develop with it
[22:37] <aragorn5> is there a program like SineGen for Ubuntu which can sound a sine wave using a slide?
[22:37] <JessicaW> Lint: sure it will. I have two 2008 server shares, 2 windows7 shares, and 1 vista share. It's only the XP one I'm having a problem with.
[22:37] <n1> dougb_freebsd: I am connecting to net via usb stick (asked me automatically when installed it to use that connection) but would like to bridge ubuntu to built in wifi adapter in latop so it can recognize wireless networks in range.
[22:37] <gogeta> mierker: guess you forget anything pre lts is testing
[22:37] <ztag100> what order is your disk?
[22:37] <mierker> The first time you can give unity a try...is now
[22:37] <dougb_freebsd> ztag100: usually it's easiest to put the data partition second, and the ubuntu partition last
[22:37] <mierker> but gnome 3 you can use since 1 year
[22:37] <n1> is it possible with vmware?
[22:38] <L3top> mierker: are you just here to complain because Ubuntu has not made the same decisions as you would have?
[22:38] <ThePendulum1> mierker: I didn't like Unity in 11.04 and 11.10, but it has improved in 12.04 and it has become more useable now. I expect it to be amazing as of 13.04
[22:38] <Sveen12> HOla
[22:38] <Sveen12> Buenos dias
[22:38] <taime1> trism: okay, that worked.. thanks
[22:38] <ztag100> alright
[22:38] <ztag100> how big should my ubuntu / partition be?
[22:38] <mierker> Canonical is such a big industrie
[22:38] <JessicaW> ok, next problem. I have a directory that shows under ls as d??????? for the attributes. sudo -i and can't chmod, chown, or rm. Suggestions?
[22:38] <dougb_freebsd> n1: I doubt it, I don't think vmware has the right stuff to allow direct access to your wifi card
[22:38] <mierker> Mark S. gives them so much money
[22:38] <Sveen12> Jmmm, Something here speak spanish?
[22:38] <gogeta> ok enough of this use it or dont thers other window managers and tons of other ubuntus
[22:38] <Sveen12> Jmmm, Something here speak spanish?????
[22:38] <gogeta> !es
[22:39] <dlentz> !ot | mierker
[22:39] <Sveen12> Gracias
[22:39] <jhartzell> I just installed 12.04 on my Lenovo and I can't get it to boot. Is this the right place to ask about that?
[22:39] <L3top> ztag100: there is not really a good answer to that... I can tell you minimum you want about 10 gb... maybe as little as 8... but how much you SHOULD use... as much as you feel is needed for whatever you do.
[22:39] <dougb_freebsd> ztag100: depends, how big is your disk?  I have a 15G partition for / and /usr, and it is only using 3 G so far ... I make it ridiculously big because I tend to install a lot of stuff, and I'm lazy about uninstalling it
[22:39] <JessicaW> dougb_freebsd: hey, did you see anything in this that might have caused this to break? http://paste.ubuntu.com/951036/
[22:40] <n1> dougb_freebsd: so you are also connecting via usb stick?
[22:40] <dougb_freebsd> JessicaW: I looked at that, and no
[22:40] <ztag100> Alright
[22:40] <matelot> 12.04 - Is elementary theme available ?
[22:40] <dougb_freebsd> n1: I install into vmware using the iso image
[22:40] <ThePendulum1> Is there a way to improve the splash screen resolution on start-up?
[22:40] <matelot> I can't stand the default theme
[22:40] <ThePendulum1> (In 12.04)
[22:40] <JessicaW> dougb_freebsd: thanks for looking. I didn't see anything either. But something sure caused it.
[22:40] <freebird> you guys, I've a graphic card, in ubuntu (8086:a011), in win I can go 1024x768
[22:40] <dlentz> jhartzell, do you have more info (error messages)?
[22:40] <krababbel> ztag100: you should have as much swap as you have ram too at least for hibernation.
[22:40] <freebird> not in ubuntu, what do you guys suggest ?
[22:41] <freebird> what should I do ? things are too big
[22:41] <mierker> why is this fixed??????????
[22:41] <mierker> https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/compiz/+bug/776435
[22:41] <jhartzell> When I try to boot from the hard drive, nothing happens. If I reboot and then look at efibootmgr, it doesn't list ubuntu anymore.
[22:41] <gogeta> Krabbe: naa you dont need tht mutch swap to hibernate
[22:41] <mierker> bug 776435
[22:41] <Takyoji[laptop]_> Issue seems to be persist, and I've forgotten the username of the assistant. xP
[22:41] <henrybean> how do i change the systme font in 12.04?
[22:41] <jhartzell> Right now, Boot0009 says ubuntu, as I just ran the installer and am still on the liveCd.
[22:41] <L3top> freebird What driver are you using and what card is it? actually... lspci -nn | grep VGA
[22:41] <gogeta> Krabbe: around a gig is fine
[22:42] <aragorn5> Never mind. I found a Windows program which works in WINE.
[22:42] <jhartzell> But if I reboot the computer, I know that it won't boot at all, it'll fall back to PXEBoot, and if I reboot to the liveCD, it'll not show ubuntu on the list anymore.
[22:42] <cheryl_> Hi, hate to be the fly in your ointment, but how do I change dir on commandline in Ubuntu?? :)
[22:42] <mierker> ubuntu gets more and more bad
[22:42] <Takyoji[laptop]_> L3top: issue persists, 100% CPU usage by Xorg
[22:42] <mierker> first this DE+
[22:42] <mierker> now the helping here
[22:42] <ztag100> I have a 120 GB HD, So, I'm going to have, all of windows partitions take up 60 GB, data partitions take up 30 GB, and 30 GB for ubuntu
[22:42] <freebird> L3top, 00:02.0 VGA compatible controller [0300]: Intel Corporation N10 Family Integrated Graphics Controller [8086:a011]
[22:42] <ztag100> err
[22:42] <ztag100> sorry
[22:42] <Takyoji[laptop]_> and the cursor seems to be able to move, actually
[22:42] <n1> dougb_freebsd:i mean connect to internet via usb modem?
[22:42] <JessicaW> cheryl_: type cd
[22:42] <krababbel> ztag100: 30gigshould be plenty for /
[22:42] <cheryl_> JessicaW, Yes, then?
[22:42] <deranged_> am i the only one wondering if mierker lives under a bridge?
[22:42] <ztag100> 45 for data and 15 for ubuntu
[22:42] <Takyoji[laptop]_> but keyboard doesn't react at all
[22:42] <gogeta> Takyoji[laptop]_: probly need to install your video drivers or if its relly old unity 2d
[22:42] <L3top> Takyoji[laptop]_:  did you run nvidia-xconfig(ure)?
[22:42] <ztag100> I messed up
[22:42] <dougb_freebsd> n1: no ... I'm plugged into a router
[22:43] <ztag100> does that work?
[22:43] <JessicaW> cheryl_: for example "cd /mnt" or "cd name_of_directory" it stands for change directory.
[22:43] <krababbel> ztag100: my install currently is 12g
[22:43] <dougb_freebsd> ztag100: how much ram do you have?
[22:43] <ztag100> 4
[22:43] <reonfus> Hi, i am new with Ubuntu (about 1 month). I saw in Update Manager option to update my OS to version 12.04 LTS. My question ist: if I use this option from Update Manager, will I lose any data? Or this update will be save for my files?
[22:43] <ztag100> 4gb
[22:43] <shredding> I'm new to ubuntu 12.04: How can I fade out the board on the left side when not over it with the mouse?
[22:43] <ztag100> errr.. forgot swap
[22:43] <shredding> (And how is it called so i can google for the solution myself)
[22:43] <jhartzell> I'm on a lenovo v570.
[22:43] <dougb_freebsd> ok, so 60 win, 40 data, 16 ubuntu, 4 swap
[22:43] <n1> dougb_freebsd: thx
[22:43] <ztag100> in that order?
[22:43] <dougb_freebsd> (to keep the numbers round
[22:43] <cheryl_> JessicaW, I knew that bit, but get confused between dos's \ and linux's / :)
[22:43] <mierker> Yoou can beieve me
[22:43] <Takyoji[laptop]_> L3top: WARNING: Unable to locate/open X configuration file.
[22:43] <mierker> Ubuntu not has such the quality
[22:44] <Takyoji[laptop]_> L3top: also, I'm interacting with the system via SSH
[22:44] <dougb_freebsd> ztag100: the order of the last 2 shouldn't matter, but sure :)
[22:44] <Takyoji[laptop]_> So I hope it's a command-line utility
[22:44] <ztag100> got it
[22:44] <krababbel> ztag100: why so much for windows?
[22:44] <mierker> it is LTS
[22:44] <freebird> L3top,
[22:44] <mierker> but it has so bad quality
[22:44] <ztag100> Now I have to defrag windows!
[22:44] <mierker> ^^
[22:44] <ztag100> ARGHH
[22:44] <L3top> Takyoji[laptop]_: You DO have an xorg.conf file yes?
[22:44] <jeffreydahmer> Okay so I dual booted ubuntu to one of my pc's. This pc isn't on a wired connection, it has to connect through wifi. I'm using a Netgear n-300 usb adapter though..how do I install the drivers for the adaptor? I can't connect to the internet at all though..when I plug it in the computer doesnt recognize it on ubuntu. Help?
[22:44] <Takyoji[laptop]_> L3top: I appear to not
[22:44] <ztag100> krababbel: games mainly
[22:44] <dougb_freebsd> krababbel: 60 G is pretty minimal for win 7
[22:44] <dlentz> mierker, do you have an issue other than not liking unity (or any other dekstop)?
[22:44] <JessicaW> cheryl_: haha. yeah. Always forward slash. the question mark key.
[22:44] <L3top> one moment freebird
[22:45] <mierker> dlentz yes https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/compiz/+bug/776435
[22:45] <ztag100> window's programs normally are installed to the C:/ not the data
[22:45] <krababbel> ztag100, dougb_freebsd you can easily install  games to data usually.
[22:45] <krababbel> ztag100: doesn't need to be on windows boot
[22:45] <L3top> Takyoji[laptop]_: export DISPLAY=:0; Xorg -configure
[22:45] <uzf> Anyone know why update-manager isn't showing 12.04 as a new dist, I'm running 10.04 right now
[22:46] <ztag100> Well, What ever
[22:46] <ztag100> :P
[22:46] <Bleach> i think you can only upgrade from 11.10?
[22:46] <cheryl_> JessicaW, Aha, I just remembered ls, which allows me to see the sub dirs!! :) Thanks, so empowering to be helped by a woman!! :)
[22:46] <mierker> uzf: because ubuntu 10.04 hates 12.04
[22:46] <L3top> Takyoji[laptop]_: this drops an xorg.conf.new file in your /root dir
[22:46] <krababbel> ztag100: my win7 is 100g, but about 70 is games
[22:46] <JessicaW> cheryl_: NP!!! :D
[22:46] <uzf> whats the upgrade path, ubuntu+1 is invite only
[22:46] <mierker> uzf: because ubuntu 10.04 hates 12.04
[22:46] <dougb_freebsd> krababbel: yes, mostly ... but even just the win7 install takes up  a huge chunk
[22:46] <dougb_freebsd> ... and it gets worse with every hotfix
[22:46] <L3top> Takyoji[laptop]_: cp /root/xorg.conf.new /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[22:47] <cheryl_> Thanks Jess, I'm off to do wot I wanted 2 now. :)
[22:47] <rfm> uzf apparently they don't want LTS people to upgrade by default until 12.04.1 in july
[22:47] <JessicaW> yeah, it's LTS to LTS
[22:47] <L3top> then run the nvidia-xconfig again
[22:47] <shredding> Got it, its launchpad.
[22:47] <Takyoji[laptop]_> L3top: Actually I forgot 'sudo', nvidia-xconfig did generate an /etc/X11/xorg.conf file
[22:47] <mierker> yres but
[22:47] <mierker> 10.04 good
[22:47] <uzf> wtf
[22:47] <mierker> 12.04 shit+
[22:47] <FloodBot1> mierker: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[22:47] <mierker> ^^
[22:47] <L3top> ok then Takyoji[laptop]_ reboot
[22:47] <Fyodorovna> !language | mierker
[22:48] <mierker> Sorry but i am only trying telling the truth
[22:48] <uzf> it's only shitty because it has unity installed by default
[22:48] <uzf> just get rid of that
[22:48] <L3top> freebird, I am sorry, what version are you on?
[22:48] <mierker> Oh yes uzf
[22:48] <rfm> uzf there may be a way to force update-manager, but I don't know it.  I did the upgrade by downloading the alternate cd and running from it...
[22:48] <L3top> freebird: of ubuntu
[22:48] <JessicaW> trying again, why would ls show a directory as d?????? with no attributes? I can't chmod, chown, or rm it. suggestions?
[22:49] <AshleyWaffle> Can someone design some icons for me? I'll pay 0.5BTC for your time.
[22:49] <AshleyWaffle> Just like 3 or 4
[22:49] <AshleyWaffle> query me.
[22:49] <deranged_> JessicaW, try ls -B
[22:49] <ztag100> dougb_freebsd: Once I'm done with all this... what do I do to use the data disk on both OSes
[22:50] <uzf> I ran update-manager -d and it says 12.04 is available
[22:50] <Monotoko> AshleyWaffle, 0.5BTC is what in USD?
[22:50] <JessicaW> deranged_: oO.... I have no idea what this means... ls: cannot access /illumina: Host is down
[22:50] <dougb_freebsd> ztag100: format it as fat32 (probably safest to do that in windows)
[22:50] <AshleyWaffle> Monotoko: $2.50
[22:50] <AshleyWaffle> Monotoko: It's just like a few quick icons for my android app.
[22:50] <dougb_freebsd> ztag100: once you format it, windows will just "see" it and you'll be able to use it like any other disk
[22:50] <uzf> $2.50 cents?
[22:50] <AshleyWaffle> Monotoko: Query please.
[22:50] <Monotoko> AshleyWaffle, ahh sorry I'm not your man... I do professional grade only
[22:50] <ztag100> ok
[22:51] <uzf> you could have worked at taco bell for 5 mins and already made that
[22:51] <dougb_freebsd> ztag100: for ubuntu, open up the disk tool and set it to mount automatically
[22:51] <AshleyWaffle> Monotoko: Okay, thanks anyway.
[22:51] <Gallomimia> good listen session
[22:51] <Kveras> Any one with knowledge about unity that has an answer to this? http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/196/screenshotfrom201204280.png/
[22:51] <ztag100> and for ubuntu, set up symlinks in my home dir?
[22:51] <JessicaW> deranged_: I think I tried to mount too many times! I unmounted and it's fine!
[22:51] <BoyBlunder> would anyone be able to help me if i had a Cinnamon question? i'm on a laptop and the battery applet isn't updating as my battery is draining and it only works when I refresh Cinnamon.
[22:51] <uzf> I'm afraid to do a dist upgrade, everytime things get screwed up
[22:51] <deranged_> lol
[22:51] <jfreak53> AshleyWaffle: Actually 2.55 ;) ha ha
[22:51] <dougb_freebsd> ztag100: sure, if you want to .... or what I do is just add the path on the left side in the various file dialogs
[22:52] <AshleyWaffle> jfreak53: :P
[22:52] <dougb_freebsd> ... I basically ignore all the directories in ~ except the ones I create for stuff :)
[22:52] <AshleyWaffle> So nobody does icons?
[22:52] <jfreak53> AshleyWaffle: vWorker.com
[22:52] <AshleyWaffle> I want to quickly find someone on IRC, no time to register for some site
[22:52]  * L3top doesn't take money, but only does design for free projects that help more than a single user
[22:53] <krababbel> ztag100: you can use bookmarks in file manager too
[22:53] <wylde> !ot | AshleyWaffle
[22:53] <ztag100> yah, but, what about my desktop?
[22:53] <AshleyWaffle> L3top: It might be free... Query me.
[22:53] <Lint> FAT32 is not safest
[22:53] <jfreak53> AshleyWaffle: btctalk or bitcoinforums
[22:53] <ztag100> how will that update?
[22:53] <dougb_freebsd> ztag100: what do you mean?
[22:53] <L3top> show me the source... is the only real reply I have to that.
[22:53] <AshleyWaffle> L3top: Okay, bye.
[22:53] <dlentz> BoyBlunder, cinnamon is a mint creation. FIle a bug here: https://bugs.launchpad.net/linuxmint
[22:53] <Youssef_KH> people$ shutdown -r now
[22:54] <ztag100> the "desktop" directory
[22:54] <Youssef_KH> tryit
[22:54] <Lint> it´s not fault-tolerant and doesn´t support files over 4 GB
[22:54] <jfreak53> Youssef_KH: You first ;)
[22:54] <dougb_freebsd> ztag100: that will have to be different between windows and ubuntu
[22:54] <Youssef_KH> hhahaha :)
[22:54] <BoyBlunder> dlentz, thanks
[22:54]  * digitalvaldosta says, "My list of people in the room is not showing for some reason. It was earlier today. Does anyone know how to get this back? Ubuntu 12.04, using Empathy"
[22:54] <ztag100> Guess that isn't a big deal, I keep that pretty empty anyway
[22:54] <Fyodorovna> Kveras, I don't believe you can.
[22:54] <dougb_freebsd> ztag100: don't store files on your desktop, put them in proper folders in your data partition
[22:54] <ztag100> I know
[22:54] <ztag100> I never do anyway
[22:55] <jfreak53> digitalvaldosta: don't use empathy, use weechat
[22:55] <digitalvaldosta> jfreak53: why?
[22:55] <ztag100> I asked that question out of pure curiosity
[22:55] <Monotoko> Youssef_KH: C:\Users\Monotoko> shutdown -r now
[22:55] <Monotoko> command not recognised ;)
[22:55] <Fyodorovna> Kveras, there is a #compiz channel they might know more if you get no definitive here.
[22:55] <sfears> shutdown now -P
[22:55] <jfreak53> digitalvaldosta: because it's a resource hog ha ha
[22:55] <dougb_freebsd> Lint: arguably ntfs would be a better choice, but I've had better luck mounting fat32 r/w than I have with ntfs
[22:55] <Kveras> Fyodorovna, ok, thx for taking the time! ;)
[22:55] <Fyodorovna> Kveras, np. :)
[22:55] <Youssef_KH> or$ sudo kill -1 -9
[22:55] <spoonybard> how can i regain the vsftpd config file if i lose it?
[22:56] <digitalvaldosta> jfreak53: well that sucks. :))
[22:56] <Monotoko> spoonybard, back it up?
[22:56] <sfears> what are the -1 & -9 flags Youssef_KH?
[22:56] <spoonybard> Monotoko, i dont have a backup of it
[22:56] <uzf> spoonybard: burn the config on a dual layer dvd
[22:56] <uzf> vim; :wr backup
[22:56] <Youssef_KH> 1 is the father of all processors
[22:56] <spoonybard> uzf, too late for that
[22:56] <Monotoko> spoonybard, then you will have to purge and reinstall vsftpd
[22:56] <krababbel> dougb_freebsd, ztag100 I haven't got many problems rw to ntfs, but I leave windows boot partition alone. :)
[22:56] <jfreak53> sfears: it basically kills everything, good bye
[22:56] <Drone4four> i've got 6 or more windows open from my last session with chromium and now that i am using unity i have to close a window in order to Alt +Tab to see the next one.  how do i cycle through different browser windows in unity?
[22:56] <Youssef_KH> when you kill it !! every sons will die
[22:57] <Youssef_KH> -9
[22:57] <dougb_freebsd> krababbel: I pound my data partitions pretty hard, most notably with bittorrent
[22:57] <Maya> Why is it that in ubuntu I can not right click in my konversation chat client?
[22:57] <spoonybard> is there a purge command? Ive already tried sudo apt-get remove
[22:57] <spaceneedle> When I click the icon up in the corner it says updates available even tho I've updated thru synaptic.
[22:57] <Youssef_KH> total priority i guess
[22:57] <dougb_freebsd> but I also have a LOT of data .... pictures, documents, etc.
[22:57] <jfreak53> spoonybard: sudo apt-get purge or --purge with remove
[22:57] <Monotoko> spoonybard, remove assumes the config files are still there and leaves them
[22:57] <sfears> nice, good to know, thanks Youssef_KH
[22:57] <wylde> spoonybard: 'sudo apt-get purge packagename'
[22:57] <digitalvaldosta> has anyone here edited the grub menu? I am looking at the documentation. The examples are lacking. I have a dual boot system and would like to place my Win7 and Ubuntu 12.04 entries at the top.
[22:57] <Youssef_KH> no problem ;)
[22:58] <krababbel> dougb_freebsd: OK, I don't download a lot of torrents, will see how that goes :)
[22:58] <spaceneedle> user theme extension still crashes gnome-tweak-tool on my laptop. Please fix!
[22:58] <jfreak53> digitalvaldosta: you have to manually create it in custom file under /etc/grub.d I think it is
[22:58] <dougb_freebsd> digitalvaldosta: just give up on that, what you probably want instead is for grub to boot the last OS you used by default, right?
[22:58] <ztag100> there's alot of seeders for 12.04
[22:58] <violinappren> digitalvaldosta: /etc/default/grub can be used to make an entry the default regardless of its order
[22:58] <Youssef_KH> there is any BASH Scripter Here ??
[22:59] <Youssef_KH> or SH
[22:59] <krababbel> ztag100: You can define your windows boot partition in fstab, so it won't show up in file manager as removable media. Not sure if disk tools mentioned earlier does that.
[22:59] <jfreak53> digitalvaldosta: grub2 it should be automatic, just leave it, it will find windows if you update-grub
[22:59] <dougb_freebsd> Youssef_KH: yes
[22:59] <violinappren> !ask | Youssef_KH
[22:59] <Fyodorovna> digitalvaldosta, what OS do you have installed right now?
[22:59] <cherez> So, I got a system crash during my 12.04 upgrade. I think I have it restored, except grub seems really confused and fails to install in a chroot.
[22:59] <Youssef_KH> ok ubotto xD
[22:59] <cherez> Any badasses have guidance for me?
[22:59] <henrybean> how do i change the system font?
[22:59] <Takyoji[laptop]> L3top: Issue persists; I am able get past gdm now, however the screen freezes every nth second
[23:00] <dougb_freebsd> cherez: do you have your data backed up?
[23:00] <sfears> you don't have all the folders binded properly cherez?
[23:00] <NurseDad> where do we request package updates/new software in a repo?
[23:00] <Takyoji[laptop]> the kerning of the letters are also off, as letters overlap
[23:00] <Youssef_KH> this is my website & email if u need any help www.YoussefKH.com ucef@01tek.com
[23:00] <digitalvaldosta> dougb_freebsd: that sounds cool. However that would confuse the wife. ;-)
[23:00] <Takyoji[laptop]> such as in gterm (or whichever it is)
[23:00] <Fyodorovna> NurseDad, apt-get synaptic or software center
[23:00] <henrybean> tried recovery on boot?
[23:01] <cherez> sfears: I have /dev /proc, and /sys bounded from the root filesystem into the chroot. Am I missing any?
[23:01] <violinappren> NurseDad: #ubuntu-bugs
[23:01] <Maya> Gawd I hate these irc chat clients.
[23:01] <dougb_freebsd> digitalvaldosta: if what you're trying to accomplish is "list windows first," you can't ... grub will blow away any changes you make like that on the next update ... if it works at all
[23:01] <Maya> cherez: Yea, you are.
[23:01] <NurseDad> Fyodorovna: no I mean there is a old version of a software in the repo that needs updating
[23:01] <Fyodorovna> NurseDad, the update manger itself will give you updates.
[23:01] <dougb_freebsd> digitalvaldosta: so, why don't you say what you're actually trying to accomplish?
[23:01] <Maya> cherez: nvm.
[23:01] <violinappren> Youssef_KH: what's your ubuntu support question?
[23:01] <L3top> Takyoji[laptop]: I am worried that your hw is not sufficient to run the version of Ubuntu you are running. Can you give me a pastebin of lshwd
[23:02] <sfears> boot cherez?
[23:02] <Fyodorovna> NurseDad, so you want to have the ap in the repo updated?
[23:02] <Fyodorovna> app*
[23:02] <NurseDad> violinaooren: thank you
[23:02] <Maya> Who uses Konversation chat client? I'm experiencing issues with it, I can not right click.
[23:02] <NurseDad> Fyodorovna: yes
[23:02] <JessicaW> Thank to all for the help!
[23:03] <Maya> Every friggen release it's buggy. OMG.
[23:03] <sfears> nevermind cherez, i guess not need boot
[23:03]  * L3top thinks Waffle girl does not understand the difference between free and no cost
[23:03] <sfears> where does it fail?
[23:03] <violinappren> Maya: ask for a refund
[23:03] <Maya> violinappren: Lol, I wish I can refund for time.
[23:03] <cherez> sfears: It looks like boot is in the root filesystem.
[23:04] <violinappren> Maya: or better use this time to make free/libre software better :)
[23:04] <Daghdha> Hi, i have ubuntu 12.04. When i set my desktop background to BLACK i can't read the titles of the applications anymore when they are maximized.  Known issue?
[23:04] <Fyodorovna> NurseDad, hard to say really thousands of people involved in putting apps in independent of each other in many places, I guess find the responsible party and email them. Not really a realistic idea overall.
[23:04] <L3top> Maya:  can you give me an example of an OS that was not buggy the day of release?
[23:04] <Maya> violinappren: I don't have time, but I do know how to program one.
[23:04] <sfears> nevermind sys, proc & dev are what you need.
[23:04] <sfears> where does it fail cherez?
[23:04] <Takyoji[laptop]> L3top: for some reason it stalls at lshwd with no output
[23:04] <Takyoji[laptop]> I'm wondering if there's a hardware fault
[23:04] <cherez> sfears: grub-probe failing to find a disk for /.
[23:04] <violinappren> Maya: http://www.ubuntu.com/community/get-involved
[23:04] <cherez> Huh, I'm on a btrfs partition, and it looks to have a @ directory that contains the root?
[23:04] <cherez> Is that what's confusing grub-probe?
[23:05] <sfears> is that in update-grub or grub-install?
[23:05] <digitalvaldosta> I have Windows 7 and Ubuntu 12.04. I just installed 12.04 yesterday followed by running: sudo mv /etc/grub.d/30_os-prober /etc/grub.d/09_os-prober. This would have worked great however Sony has a recovery partition that wound up being the top entry. What I would like to do is Have Win7 listed first then Ubuntu. (That way my wife won't get confused and boot into Ubuntu. She gets freaked out on something new. Despite my best eff
[23:05] <digitalvaldosta> orts at converting her to Ubuntu)
[23:05] <L3top> Takyoji[laptop]: I also wonder. Try sudo service gdm stop  and see if you can make it go without desktop pegging everything
[23:06] <cherez> sfears: That's when apt-get tries to do anything with grub.
[23:06] <L3top> Takyoji[laptop]: sudo apt-get install pastebinit  then lshw | pastebinit
[23:06] <sfears> digitalvaldosta: you can manually edit /etc/boot/grub.cfg, and will be good as long as you don't update anything.
[23:07] <Takyoji[laptop]> L3top: stupidly, this is actually a server with Ubuntu Desktop installed, for some reason it has an ancient GPU thrown in it though; and the reason for needing the desktop is for the Windows sysadmin to be able to work on it graphically. xP
[23:07] <dougb_freebsd>  digitalvaldosta, yeah, your best bet is to teach your wife to find the windows partition ... what might help you there is to increase the autoboot timeout to a really large number in the config file
[23:07] <digitalvaldosta> sfears: that is what I don't want to do. That will be changed after an update
[23:07] <violinappren> digitalvaldosta: make windows the default entry, hide the menu and give it a 5 second timeout or so.. all can be done in /etc/default/grub
[23:07] <sfears> if grub is the only problem your having cherez try update-grub and grub-install /dev/sda # assuming here your 1st HD is sda
[23:07] <Fyodorovna> digitalvaldosta, check out the grub customizer a easy gui way, here is the ppa.  https://launchpad.net/~danielrichter2007/+archive/grub-customizer
[23:08] <Takyoji[laptop]> L3top: stalling at 'service gdm stop' apparently
[23:08] <ztag100> yay, defragmentation has completed!
[23:08] <Maya> L3top: If I had time to do an OS, mines wouldn't be so buggy.
[23:08] <sfears> why not disable the grub menu altogether and auto boot to a particular entry digitalvaldosta
[23:08] <Maya> Takyoji[laptop]: Version of Ubuntu?
[23:08] <ztag100> (shrinking windows)
[23:08] <Takyoji[laptop]> 10.04.4
[23:08] <Maya> You might have to run: lightdm instead.
[23:08] <digitalvaldosta> Fyodorovna: how reliable is that?
[23:08] <L3top> Takyoji[laptop]: if you are not particularly concerned with the flash, as it is a server, edit your /etc/X11/xorg.conf and replace "nvidia" with "fbdriver"
[23:08] <reonfus> Hi, I'm new with ubuntu. My question is: if I update my 11.10 to 12.04 from Update Menager, will I lose my data? Or the files are save and will not be deleted then?
[23:09] <violinappren> sfears: digitalvaldosta: do NOT edit /etc/boot/grub.cfg
[23:09] <rodayo> I can't get a solid back ground image for the gnome terminal....changing the opacity for the solid color also changes the opacity of the image...is anyone else having/had this issue?
[23:09] <sfears> tell me NOT to
[23:09] <L3top> Maya: I am sure... so the answer is none. There is NO general release OS without bugs on the day of launch. Thanks.
[23:09] <dougb_freebsd> reonfus: you shouldn't lose anything, no ... but you should have good backups of all your data anyway, right? :)
[23:09] <Fyodorovna> digitalvaldosta, Never used it myself but recommended by the top grub people at the ubuntu forum, as a gui answer.
[23:09] <sfears> tell ME not to
[23:09] <violinappren> reonfus: it's a hit-and-miss process...
[23:10] <digitalvaldosta> Fyodorovna, hmm. interesting.
[23:10] <milamber> reonfus: the goal is that your data will be safe. however, you should *always* have backups.
[23:10] <sfears> i'll edit grub.cfg & update grub just so'z i canz has do it one more 'gain
[23:10] <cherez> sfears: both give a grub-probe error that they cannot find a device (for / and for /boot/grub respectively)
[23:10] <L3top> Actually... Takyoji[laptop]... in /etc/X11/ do you have an xorg.default or something to that effect?
[23:10] <paige> I love the vinegary taste of hot sauce so much I got a bag of tapatio flavored dorritos
[23:10] <paige> pretty good
[23:10] <sfears> maybe you have the partition mounted to a location different from the syntax in your bind -o...
[23:10] <violinappren> !ot | paige
[23:10] <reonfus> thank You for helping me :)
[23:10] <BoyBlunder> are unity themes freely available?
[23:11] <sfears> maybe you have the partition mounted to a location different from the syntax in your bind -o... cherez
[23:11] <digitalvaldosta> I would like to just edit 40_custom. I just would like to see an example file to make sure I type everything correctly.
[23:11] <reCAPTCHA> Hi. Can someone tell me how I can make an executable I made show up under application results in 12.04?
[23:11] <Takyoji[laptop]> L3top: I do not
[23:11] <zylith-away> Looking for help.. today is my first day using ubuntu. I am trying to install ia32-libs please point me in the right direction
[23:11] <digitalvaldosta> This is a laptop, so only one hard drive, 3 partitions
[23:11] <digitalvaldosta> zylith-away
[23:11] <digitalvaldosta> what is that for
[23:11] <sfears> mount /dev/sda? /mnt && mount -o bind /proc /mnt/proc cherez
[23:11] <zylith-away> zylith is logged in to ubuntu
[23:11] <dougb_freebsd> digitalvaldosta: editing 40_custom won't do what you want, as those entries are added last
[23:11] <violinappren> zylith-away: sudo apt-get install ia32-libs
[23:12] <sfears> sudo chroot /mnt /bin/bash cherez
[23:12] <Guest95208> 12.04 does not boot up from hard disk after installation
[23:12] <L3top> Takyoji[laptop]:  mv /etc/X11/xorg.conf /etc/X11/xorg.conf.bu; reboot
[23:12] <sfears> and make sure the partition you mount to /mnt has a /
[23:12] <Maya> Guest95208: How did you install Ubuntu??
[23:12] <L3top> Takyoji[laptop]: lets let xrandr try and handle it better
[23:12] <Fyodorovna> digitalvaldosta, if you edit the 40_custom it will be need to be redone on any grub update, the main grub wiki tells you how to use that custom feature.
[23:12] <sfears> cherez
[23:12] <dougb_freebsd> digitalvaldosta: violinappren's suggestion is probably the best .... make windows default, and hide the menu by default
[23:12] <digitalvaldosta> sfears, that is what I thought.
[23:13] <cocolos> how can I install ubuntu onto a thumbdrive?
[23:13] <OerHeks> zylith-away, The ia32-libs package was a hack to get 32-bit packages installed on a 64-bit installation. Since Oneiric, Multi Arch has been added
[23:13] <andygraybeal__> how do i get the launcherbar in 12.04 on the left side to slide away?  like in 11.10 ?
[23:13] <BoyBlunder> does anyone know where i can get some unity themes?
[23:13] <BoyBlunder> cocolos, pendrivelinux.com
[23:13] <Guest95208> from usb
[23:13] <digitalvaldosta> dougb_freebsd, how do you do that? (that sounds like the submenu feature I read about)
[23:13] <OerHeks> zylith-away, use  sudo apt-get install package-name:i386
[23:13] <cocolos> BoyBlunder: thanks
[23:13] <libertybell> It is hardly possible to hit the lower right window corner for resizing it with the mouse
[23:13] <digitalvaldosta> a link is fine
[23:13] <dougb_freebsd> cocolos: boot with the thumb drive in place, and you should be able to install to it just like any other drive
[23:13] <libertybell> Used to work in the beta
[23:13] <cherez> sfears: /dev/sda1 has a directory named @ that appears to be my root directory. I think that's probably causing a lot of the confusion.
[23:13] <sfears> cocolos: alt+f2 and type startup disk creator
[23:13] <cocolos> dougb_freebsd: don't have cd drive
[23:14] <dougb_freebsd> digitalvaldosta: you'll have to read the docs for that, sorry I don't have any examples
[23:14] <zylith-away> once installed do I need to reboot
[23:14] <escott> cherez, btrfs?
[23:14] <sfears> @ is not your / directory cherez
[23:14] <dougb_freebsd> cocolos: do you want to install TO a usb drive, or FROM one?
[23:14] <cocolos> TO as usb
[23:14] <milamber> hey guys who like snack cakes?
[23:14] <dougb_freebsd> do you have 2 usb drives?
[23:14] <cherez> escott: Yes.
[23:14] <jhartzell> Hi! How do you force an ubuntu installation to use BIOS mode?
[23:14] <escott> sfears, could be a butterfs snapshot
[23:14] <digitalvaldosta> dougb_freebsd, ok. But what y'all are talking about, is that the submenu for grub?
[23:15] <sfears> noted escott
[23:15] <cherez> sfears: It looks to contain everything from /.
[23:15] <dougb_freebsd> digitalvaldosta: see previous answer :)
[23:15] <digitalvaldosta> I still have the docs open with that info
[23:15] <escott> sfears, you need to specify the snapshot id as a mount option
[23:15] <sfears> lost me escott... go on...
[23:15] <escott> cherez, ^^^
[23:15] <pipegeek> Where can I get the source package for debian-installer as used in precise?  The .deb in the repos seems to just be the docs
[23:15] <pipegeek> I'd like to poke around in it
[23:15] <cocolos> dougb_freebsd: so  pendrivelinux.com will do it?
[23:16] <jhartzell> Apparently some computers do not properly support EFI boot, so I need to use BIOS mode, and I don't know how to do that.
[23:16] <dougb_freebsd> cocolos: no idea, I've never used that
[23:16] <cherez> escott: How do I do that?
[23:16] <sfears> jhartzell: try the alternate install cd
[23:16] <violinappren> pipegeek: apt-get source packagename
[23:16] <cocolos> anyone else know how I can install ubuntu ONTO a usb drive
[23:16] <jhartzell> Ah. Thank you!
[23:16] <Guest95208> Today i installed 12.04 version using usb. After installation it was unable to boot.
[23:16] <cocolos> I don't have cd drive
[23:16] <sfears> cocolos: alt+f2 and type "startup disk creator"
[23:17] <cocolos> sfears: I don't have a live cd
[23:17] <cocolos> sfears: I would like to have ubuntu already installed
[23:17] <L3top> cocolos: startup disk creator is for USB
[23:17] <ztag100> I'm stupid
[23:17] <dougb_freebsd> cocolos: you didn't answer my question .... do you have 2 usb drives?
[23:17] <escott> cherez, check the @/etc/fstab it should have the correct formulation for the mount options
[23:17] <pipegeek> violinappren: Yes, I know.  But that package doesn't actually seem to have d-i in it
[23:17] <ztag100> I for some reason planned this out for 80 GB not, 120
[23:17] <ztag100> GB
[23:17] <dougb_freebsd> ztag100: sorry to hear that :)
[23:18] <cocolos> dougb_freebsd: sorry yes I do
[23:18] <cocolos> dougb_freebsd: should I just place iso in one and install on the other?
[23:18] <Maya> cocolos: You can also use Unetbootin. Great piece of software to make linux .ISO bootable from USB drive
[23:18] <escott> cherez, worst case you should be able to access @ as if it were a folder, but make sure you are accessing the correct correct subvolume/snapshot if there are multiple
[23:18] <dougb_freebsd> cocolos: ok, create the usb installer, then boot with both drives  :)
[23:18] <socomm> Is there something similar to winamp on ubuntu? I know there was xmms back in the day but that one is discountinued it looks like.
[23:18] <socomm> Anyone got a recommendation.
[23:18] <Maya> socomm: Use Banshee.
[23:18] <zivester> audacious2
[23:18] <Maya> Or rhythmbox.
[23:19] <ztag100> wait, no I didn't
[23:19] <ztag100> my math is horrible
[23:19] <cocolos> dougb_freebsd: ok I guess I will use what Maya mentioned
[23:19] <pipegeek> violinappren: I can check it out from svn.debian.org but that doesn't tell me what snapshot is used in ubuntu precise
[23:19]  * L3top agrees with Maya... crosses versions well as it rewrites the vesamenu which causes some cross version probs... and frankly specific code often has to be written to make native tools boot... though Ubuntu has it.
[23:19] <cocolos> Maya: thanks
[23:19] <Takyoji[laptop]> L3top: Issue persists; also, when I rebooted with fbdriver set,  gdm-binary and init were holding near to 100% CPU utilization
[23:19] <sfears> similar in what way socomm?
[23:20]  * digitalvaldosta holla
[23:20] <simonp> any idea when http://changelogs.ubuntu.com/meta-release-lts is gonna be updated with precise?
[23:20] <ztag100> Does my data partition need to be a data partition?
[23:20] <L3top> Takyoji[laptop]: what are the chances you have any POS card anywhere lying around?
[23:20] <ztag100> err
[23:20] <ztag100> I mean primary
[23:20] <Takyoji[laptop]> Sadly, I don't have any extras at hand for now
[23:20] <Takyoji[laptop]> But can in the future
[23:20] <ztag100> does the data partition have to be primary or logical?
[23:21] <Takyoji[laptop]> I'll likely have it do a non-graphical boot by default, or something, in the meantime
[23:21] <ztag100> dougb_freebsd: ?
[23:21] <L3top> Honestly this is a 20 dollar fix Takyoji[laptop]. That chipset is frikkin ANCIENT.
[23:21] <panda_> Is it possible to chat through terminal?
[23:21] <Takyoji[laptop]> L3top: I know, I don't get it either. xP
[23:21] <krababbel> ztag100: doesn't matter, primary was restricted in number
[23:21] <ztag100> exactly
[23:21] <simonp> pancro: weechat, irssi
[23:21] <ztag100> that's why I'm asking
[23:21] <simonp> ooups
[23:21] <cherez> I got it mounted. Running dpkg --configure -a. It looks to be working.
[23:21] <simonp> panda: weechat, irssi
[23:21] <ztag100> so, if it's logical, it's ok?
[23:22] <sfears> what was the fix cherez?
[23:22] <Takyoji[laptop]> L3top: should I try another display manager than gdm, or would the issue likely just persist?
[23:22] <sfears> i saw something about looking in fstab
[23:22] <violinappren> pipegeek: https://launchpad.net/d-i seems to list all associated packages
[23:22] <cherez> sfears: I needed to mount as: mount -o subvol=@ /dev/sda1 /mnt
[23:22] <cherez> Then all the standard binds.
[23:22] <sfears> nice
[23:22] <int19h> panda_: epic5
[23:22] <Takyoji[laptop]> Xorg is initialized from gdm, correct?
[23:22] <dougb_freebsd> ztag100: you should use 4 primary partitions
[23:22] <panda_> epic i know
[23:23] <ztag100> I know...
[23:23] <n0sq> why isn't there an amsn package for ubuntu 12?
[23:23] <pipegeek> hahahaha
[23:23] <pipegeek> in *trunk*
[23:23] <ztag100> Windows, automatically creates two (one for Disk Restore)
[23:23] <pipegeek> the docs for choose-mirror start with "Hmm.  This really does need documenting :-\"
[23:24] <ztag100> oh, I think I found the problem
[23:24] <dougb_freebsd> ztag100: you don't want to let windows do that :0
[23:24] <L3top> Takyoji[laptop]: if you spent 58 dollars you could run crazy sauce.... as to other DM... all I know is that kdm will be worse. I work on a specific project, and we don't even use a DM, we make our own fun... we simply give you access to one, and I handle universal gpu install/config for our media center. I can make your card work in our project...  but as far as desktop... I rarely see one.
[23:25] <ztag100> dougb_freebsd: Why?
[23:25] <dougb_freebsd> ztag100: it's a useless feature that will burn an otherwise useful primary partition :)
[23:25] <ztag100> So, delete it?
[23:25] <dougb_freebsd> but if you want to use that, it's fine ... the 2 linux partitions can be extended/logical
[23:26] <int19h> wow, kirc
[23:26] <ztag100> Wait, It's not letting me make a logical partition (the option is greyed out)
[23:26] <int19h> kvirc
[23:26] <int19h> its been a LONG time since i have seen somebody using that
[23:26] <dougb_freebsd> ztag100: what are you using to partition the disk?
[23:26] <Takyoji[laptop]> L3top: support wouldn't really be necessary, as I'm getting reasonable suspicion that the hardware has gone to crap some way or another
[23:27] <ztag100> gparted (from System Rescue Disk)
[23:27] <panda_> why 12.04 is unable to boot after installation from pendrive
[23:27] <SPACEDUDE360000> Can't connect to wireless connection. I'm using wubi to dual-boot and the windows wireless is working.
[23:27] <sfears> panda_: maybe a video driver issue
[23:27] <dougb_freebsd> ztag100: how many primary partitions do you have?
[23:27] <SPACEDUDE360000> But the network doesnt show up.
[23:27] <kip> I have an application that uses the serial port. I am debugging the config file, and when I do <ctrl>C to quit it from the terminal, it leaves the serial port open. So when I try to run it again it can not open the serial port. It clears if I reboot Lubuntu. How do I release the serial port /dev/ttyS2 from the terminal?
[23:27] <ztag100> Not sure, I'm having trouble reading the color coding
[23:27] <krababbel> panda_: wait while we decode the gobs of information you brought to the matter
[23:27] <panda_> but all the previous version works very fine
[23:28] <ztag100> blue means primary?
[23:28] <Penth> Hola. 12.04 unity-greeter is giving me a Japanese keyboard layout as my only option. Where can I fix this?
[23:28] <sfears> exit properly kip
[23:28] <ztag100> And, there is a partition called DellUtility
[23:28] <kip> Normally it runs in the background all of the time.
[23:28] <henrybean> fonts can be changed by installing "myunity"
[23:28] <taime1> anyone know why pidgin doesnt allow me to enable libnotify plugin?
[23:28] <mlouki> plz ubuntu fr is chanel ??
[23:28] <kip> How do I exit it otherwise?
[23:28] <ztag100> I have 3 partitions right now (and unallocated space)
[23:29] <dougb_freebsd> ztag100: what are the 3 partitions you have now?
[23:29] <ztag100> DellUtility, System Reserved, and the main windows partition
[23:29] <Audr> Hello all. Can anyone tell me where to find the default sources.list for 11.1 ?
[23:30] <krababbel> ztag100: is parted on that rescue disk?
[23:30] <krababbel> you can list partitions there
[23:30] <dougb_freebsd> ztag100: Ok, then you'll have to put both the data and the linux partitions in as extended/logical ... that's fine, just slightly more complex
[23:30] <the_goat> just popped in to say that man does ubuntu 11.10 amd64 ever suck hard... wtf guys
[23:31] <sfears> Audr: /etc/apt/sources.list
[23:31] <ztag100> krababbel, yes
[23:31] <dougb_freebsd> ztag100: IIRC you have to create the extended partition first using the unallocated space, then you can create logical partitions inside it
[23:31] <Wootlite> I ran 11.10 on a Penom II for six months and loved it
[23:31] <dougb_freebsd> .... of course, the other option is to just wipe out the whole disk and start over :)
[23:31] <Fyodorovna> Audr, if you need another here is a link. http://repogen.simplylinux.ch/
[23:31] <mirak> hi
[23:31] <ztag100> Ok
[23:32] <krababbel> dougb_freebsd: why can't he create another primary for / ? Would that be easier?
[23:32] <Wootlite> Hola. 12.04 unity-greeter is giving me a Japanese keyboard layout as my only option. Where can I fix this?
[23:32] <krababbel> ztag100: parted then print will tell you what partitions there are
[23:32] <mirak> i  want to install ubuntu from a chroot, and be able to boot it. is there somewhere a procedure that will ensure I will have the same install as if I used a cd install ??
[23:32] <dougb_freebsd> krababbel: he has 3 primaries already, and he wants a total of 6 partitions
[23:32] <Audr> Fyodorovna, thanks that was what i needed
[23:32] <Audr> sfears, obviously...
[23:32] <krababbel> dougb_freebsd: one primary for boot, the rest logical, no?
[23:33] <simonp> any idea when http://changelogs.ubuntu.com/meta-release-lts is gonna be updated with precise?
[23:33] <dougb_freebsd> krababbel: no, because he's got 3 primaries already between dell and windows
[23:33] <Fyodorovna> Audr, cool thought that was the idea. :)
[23:33] <simonp> do-release-upgrade doesn'
[23:33] <kip>  How do I release the serial port /dev/ttyS2 from the terminal? So it cam be opened by an application?
[23:33] <simonp> t work yet
[23:33] <dougb_freebsd> all of my linux stuff is in extended/logical ... there's no reason not to do that
[23:33] <Daghdha> I installed 'Periodic Table' app. But the icon shown for it seems to be a page with a text and little folde on the top right.
[23:34] <Daghdha> SHouldn't it show the icon i also see in the Ubunto SOftware center?
[23:34] <pipegeek> Anybody know why the value of mirror/http/hostname would be getting ignored in ubuntu precise?
[23:34] <ztag100> alright, 20.77 GB left, that I'll setup for ubuntu during install proccess
[23:34] <pipegeek> I've confirmed that the preseed file is being fetched successfully and applied
[23:34] <pipegeek> according to syslog
[23:34] <ztag100> 16 for / and 4 for swap
[23:34] <pipegeek> but it's blithely carrying on to download everything from gb.archive.ubuntu.com
[23:34] <ztag100> cool?
[23:35] <daftykins> pipegeek: what's in your sources.list ?
[23:35] <dougb_freebsd> ztag100: you probably want to create the 4G for swap in the beginning of the unallocated space, and use the rest for /
[23:35] <simonp> f4bg fo swap is too much
[23:35] <panda_> Any fast download manager
[23:35] <pipegeek> daftykins: this is in the installer.  There is no sources.list yet.
[23:35] <ztag100> ok
[23:36] <MonkeyDust> panda_  to download what? ubuntu uses repositories
[23:36] <daftykins> pipegeek: installer? oic, ignore me then.
[23:36] <panda_> mp3 and other files except video
[23:37] <pipegeek> anyone else successfully preseeded precise yet?
[23:37] <krababbel> ztag100: I'm not sure about linux swap, but if windows has less pagefile than ram, applications can't reliably use all you ram. Also hibernation won't work if you don't have a bit more swap than RAM.
[23:37] <ztag100> simonp: I have 4G of Ram
[23:37] <Fyodorovna> panda_, I use apt-fast not sure if this is the web site I got the info from but will get you started. http://www.lifehacker.com.au/2011/03/apt-fast-speeds-up-package-downloads-in-ubuntu/
[23:37] <krababbel> I'd use 4,5GB swap for example
[23:38] <panda_> fyodorovna: ok i will check
[23:38] <simonp> ztag100: 2GB of swap is enough
[23:38] <Neal_> What would you recommend how much swap should I have on a 16GB RAM server?
[23:38] <simonp> unless you want to hibernate
[23:39] <panda_> anyway i have tried prozgui it works fine but not enough fast
[23:39] <krababbel> rebooting is 70's stuff
[23:39] <dougb_freebsd> Neal_: you can't go wrong with swap == RAM, and disk is cheap
[23:39] <sfears> Zontar: where in PA are you?
[23:39]  * szal goes w/ the old-fashioned recommendation of swap = 1.5x RAM
[23:40] <panda_> On my laptop rebooting is just 25 sec's stuff
[23:40] <sfears> 1.5 even with 16 Gig's of ram?
[23:40] <Neal_> I only have 1GB (default set by my host) :/
[23:40] <daftykins> 1.5x RAM up to a ceiling of 4GB is cool
[23:41] <dougb_freebsd> if you ever get into a situation where you are using even 1/2 as much swap as you have ram, you need more ram :)
[23:42] <ztag100> Sorry, I went afk for a few seconds
[23:42] <ztag100> what should I setup?
[23:43] <ztag100> I was told that I should have twice my RAM for swap
[23:43] <ztag100> was that wrong?
[23:43] <Jonny> Hey, I feel sem-retarded for asking this, but my apt-get is getting a 404 how'd I fix that?
[23:44] <tailf> if i have a usb drive mounted, how do i tell what /dev/x it is?
[23:44] <Queops> Jonny, try chaging your mirrors
[23:44] <krababbel> ztag100: I'd guess that's old advice for efficiency reasons, when RAM was expensive.
[23:44] <scott_> 12.04 is awesome
[23:44] <Queops> Jonny, software sources program and change the source there
[23:44] <phoenix_firebrd> is this ppa good gnome3-team/gnome3
[23:44] <dougb_freebsd> ztag100: 2x ram is definitely overkill
[23:45] <BoyBlunder> does anyone know where i can get some unity themes?
[23:45] <ztag100> Alright
[23:45] <ztag100> Is 4 fine?
[23:46] <gogeta> ztag100: these days you dont need that mutch swap
[23:46] <japro> hmm, i couldn't find a ppa for gcc 4.7 i nowcompiled it myself is there a way to "install" it without screwing over stuff?
[23:46] <elijah> I made a change to my .bash_profile but every new cli I run I have to source it for it to work. Is there a way I can make it stick without having to logout and log back in?
[23:47] <gogeta> ztag100: swap is for when you run out of ram and if you have alot you probly whont even use it
[23:47] <daftykins> tailf: "sudo fdisk -l" will show you info about each device
[23:47] <clark> hi i am on ubuntu 12.04 and my internet is acting really finniky. google search seems to be quick, but loading any actual site, it hangs for a while
[23:47] <dougb_freebsd> ztag100: you said you had 4 G ram yes? If so, then 4G swap is what you want
[23:47] <gogeta> ztag100: i saw a gb so you can hibernate
[23:47] <dougb_freebsd> gogeta: we're configuring it to allow hibernation
[23:47] <clark> i have a realtek wireless card on a thinkpad e420s laptop.
[23:47] <tailf> daftykins: thanks :D
[23:47] <daftykins> np!
[23:48] <gogeta> dougb_freebsd: hibernation does not use all the ram just wats in use
[23:48] <dougb_freebsd> gogeta: right, so, *cough* swap == ram is all you need, and the safest bet
[23:48] <dougb_freebsd> he has the disk to spare, better safe now then sorry later :)
[23:48] <gogeta> dougb_freebsd: i use a gb on a 4gb system everything works
[23:49] <krababbel> saving 3GB hdd space nowadays is not reasonable
[23:49] <Fyodorovna> phoenix_firebrd, Using a PPA has the do at your own risk label, never had a problem personally and have that one in my sources.list.
[23:49] <hilikus> when i run lsof (no arguments or anything) nothing happens, the command doesn't show any output and it doesn't terminate, it just hangs there. any idea what can cause this?
[23:50] <ztag100> I'm going with 4G
[23:50] <phoenix_firebrd> Fyodorovna: thats good. going to try that
[23:50] <gogeta> ztag100: whont ever use it but go eith what you like
[23:50] <gogeta> with
[23:50] <andreim> hello Sirs. I have a MacBook Pro 5,1 (yes, I know the link to recommended distros, etc) but I would like to know if I can skip REFIT installation and use boot camp instead?
[23:50] <cherez> sfears, escott: With your help and a grub-install all was fixed. Thanks a lot!
[23:51] <ztag100> gogeta: to be quite honest, it doesn't really matter to me, I have the space to spare
[23:51] <krababbel> gogeta: you won't use those 3GB on / either
[23:51] <Daghdha> hmm recommendations enabled by default o_O how coorperate
[23:51] <gogeta> ztag100: i dont even thing hibernate supends to swap
[23:51] <ztag100> the 2 GB doesn't make a difference to e
[23:51] <ztag100> me*
[23:52] <ztag100> dougb_freebsd: now, for the 18GB Ubuntu partition... Do I want to set a mount point, or just leave that blank?
[23:52] <gogeta> ztag100: these days i think it makes a swap file if you dont have it
[23:52] <dougb_freebsd> ztag100: yes, the mount point is /
[23:52] <dougb_freebsd> that should be all you need
[23:52] <ztag100> Alright
[23:52] <clark> speedtest gives me 15 mbps DL and basically non existent upload speed. what is wrong ?
[23:52] <hatora> how to backup installed packages ?
[23:52] <ztag100> that automatically does everything else?
[23:53] <clark> my upload speed is 0.09. is that awful?
[23:53] <MonkeyDust> hatora  dpkg --get-selection
[23:53] <hilikus> hatora: you can get the whole list by doing dpkg -l
[23:53] <dougb_freebsd> ztag100: you may have to tell the installer again, but yes, for gparted that's more than sufficient
[23:53] <krababbel> ztag100: yes, you need at least /
[23:53] <hilikus> hatora: so maybe dpkg -l > packages.log
[23:53] <gogeta> clark: yea
[23:53] <ztag100> I'm in the installer now
[23:53] <hatora> ok
[23:53] <dougb_freebsd> ztag100: ok, then yes ... /
[23:54] <hatora> is it possible with synaptic package manager ?
[23:54] <gogeta> shure
[23:54] <ztag100> and it should be after the swap, right?
[23:55] <dougb_freebsd> right, that way it will just use all the rest of the free space
[23:55] <clark> gogeta, do you know how i can fix it?
[23:55] <ztag100> alright!
[23:55] <clark> ive done a lot of searching but nothing that ive tried has worked =\
[23:55] <gogeta> clark: better isp relly dunno
[23:55] <hatora> is backup possible with synaptic package manager ?
[23:55] <ztag100> Just checking, what device do I want to use for bootloader?
[23:56] <Psi-Jack> hatora: No
[23:56] <clark> gogeta, my internet is blazing fast on windows. i guess i got the wrong hardware config to work well with ubuntu...again
[23:56] <hatora> then
[23:56] <cocolos> Maya: it didn't work
[23:56] <krababbel> ztag100: in your case, your boot drive, where windows is?
[23:56] <gogeta> clark: you can have fast downstream and crappy upload
[23:57] <krababbel> ztag100: the drive which is set to boot first in BIOS
[23:57] <Psi-Jack> Hmmmm.
[23:57] <Psi-Jack> I thought Ubuntu Desktop 12.04 LTS was going to FINALLY default to 64-bit, what happened?
[23:57] <clark> gogeta, my upload is not crappy on other OS. there must be some configuration i need to adjust
[23:57] <cocolos> how can I create a bootable usb drive?
[23:57] <mirak> df: cannot read table of mounted file systems: No such file or directory
[23:57] <mirak> in a chroot
[23:57] <ztag100> krababbel: where the 100mb windows boot flag is?
[23:57] <gogeta> clark: yea could be
[23:57] <mirak> can I make it work ?
[23:57] <hilikus> cocolos: try unetbootin
[23:57] <MonkeyDust> Psi-Jack  in order to be able to run on older pc's, there has to be a 32bit version
[23:58] <clark> psi-jack dont they offere 32 and 64?
[23:58] <ztag100> that's the one with the boot flag now
[23:58] <gogeta> clark: yes
[23:58] <dougb_freebsd> ztag100: that should be fine
[23:58] <cocolos> hilikus: I just tried it my computer didn't pick it up
[23:58] <Psi-Jack> MonkeyDust: Right, hence, 'default'.
[23:58] <ztag100> 100MB is enough?
[23:58] <cocolos> how can I install ubuntu onto my usb drive?
[23:58] <darkVader> hi there, I need some help please
[23:58] <dougb_freebsd> more than enough
[23:58] <gogeta> cocolos: maybe the pc does not support cd rom booting
[23:58] <krababbel> ztag100: well yes, don't do sda1, just sda, so it installs to MBR. that 100mb should be windows boot partition
[23:58] <hilikus> cocolos: using unetbooting
[23:58] <gogeta> cocolos: yes with unetbootin
[23:58] <dougb_freebsd> cocolos: didn't I already answer that question? :)
[23:58] <Psi-Jack> MonkeyDust: As in, word said that they would stop recommending 32-bit and recommend 64-bit by default.
[23:59] <hilikus> cocolos: what do you mean didnt pick it up?
[23:59] <gogeta> cocolos: but if it does not do cd rom i dought it does usb
[23:59] <darkVader> I am trying to install Ubunto
[23:59] <hilikus> cocolos: did you change the boot order in your bios?
[23:59] <Maya> cocolos: unetbootin, you have to clear your USB drive first. (Forgoodness sakes, PLEASE BACKUP FIRST). Then after clearing USB. Unmount it. Then Pull out USB. Put it back in. THEN open unetbootin. Pick out the ISO, pick the USB drive letter/directory. Then you may finally install ubuntu to USB.
[23:59] <ztag100> I did the one that had a boot flag before
[23:59] <Guest2441> how to install .tar.gz file
[23:59] <johnjohn101> what is geekshed irc?
[23:59] <gogeta> Maya: that made no sense
[23:59] <cocolos> Maya: I repartitioned it as weel
[23:59] <ztag100> was that the windows boot loader?