[00:02] tiopere_2, it worked ? :) [00:13] it still running [00:13] okay :) [00:13] 7 minutes left [00:13] slow internet velocity [00:14] ah...must be using the patented M$ Time Counting algorhythm [00:14] happens to the best of us sometimes :) [00:22] instaling upgrades [00:22] tiopere_2, great :) [00:22] mate, I think we (you) fixed the error [00:27] next time I think I'll install from CD, not doing an upgrade cause it takes a long [00:28] now I'm going to bed [00:29] I own you a pair of beers [00:29] tiopere_2, hehe, np, enjoy! :) [00:30] * knome has had a "few" beers today already [00:31] xfce meeds a better "mouse" icon [00:31] 3 people have already asked me what that icon is supposed to be [00:32] yeah, next day you tell me how to make your work online games (for children) [00:32] install the flashplayer and so [00:32] malv, the xubuntu logo? [00:32] the start button logo [00:32] with that I think I can force my children to go xubuntu and to left windows [00:32] doesn't really look like a mouse [00:33] it's my dream [00:33] malv, mmhm, well, the logo done 2 years ago... some people thought that was a rat too [00:33] malv, so i don't know what there is to do :) [00:34] ok folks, thanks for all, see you soon [00:34] malv, proposals welcome at https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/xubuntu-devel ;) [00:34] tiopere_2, np! have fun! :) [00:34] tkns [00:34] bye [00:34] i will write a 3 page angry rant [00:35] malv, please don't... [00:35] is it the xfce logo or the xubuntu logo? [00:35] malv, but constructive criticism is welcome [00:35] malv, it's *based* on the xfce logo, but that is the xubuntu logo [00:36] should be a circle of mice [00:36] hmm. [00:36] well, as i said, proposals are welcome [00:37] malv: a circle of mice in 16x16px? :) [00:37] use the pixels sparingly [00:38] malv, proposals are welcome... :)= [00:49] So does anyone know what happened to all the appearance styles? There seems to be half as many in 12.04 [00:49] DinoMuffin, we did some cleanup [00:49] oh [00:50] DinoMuffin, you can re-enable the styles by installing xfce4-themes or so [00:50] are they still compatible if i re install them? [00:50] well [00:50] oh ok [00:50] they won't work too well with gtk3 [00:50] how does xubuntu compare to the xfce version of mint? [00:50] DinoMuffin, only greybird (the default) will work *well* with gtk3 apps :) [00:51] ok, thanks :) [00:52] np [00:52] malv, no idea [00:52] malv, haven't followed what linux mint does [00:53] malv: LM is light and green while Xubuntu is dark and grey [01:00] * knome giggles [01:04] * drc tells only the truth [01:05] They are both debian based (directly or once removed). [01:05] ...and nothing but the truth [01:05] They both have software centers/managers. [01:05] They are both based off XFCE 4.8. [01:06] There are only a few minor differences in the default apps. [01:07] The major difference that I can see is that LM claim(ed) that LMDE was a rolling release, and then found their users we whinning about "breakages" so the stopped that. [01:07] probably. [01:08] otoh, they are probably *really* different from each other :) [01:08] why dosen't thunar let you mark files as executable in the properties window =[ [01:10] not yet implemented... [01:10] 'chmod +x file' though, not too hard [01:10] * drc wonders if knome can tell he once had great hopes for LMDE-XFCE ? [01:11] just did chmod -x and it still complains that it isnt marked as executable [01:12] jdtm_, PLUS (+) x [01:12] ....*facepalm* [01:12] dat feel [01:12] barkeep, next round is on jdtm :) [01:12] Hi, can anyone helpme whit a doubt?.... its true that i cant install linux on my laptop cause ive Ati Radeon GPU? [01:12] and i thought *I* was the one who was drunk [01:13] Killuacba, yup! [01:13] Killuacba, you should search "your GPU" + linuf in google first, though [01:13] sht T_T... i really wanna to try ubuntu xD [01:14] Killuacba, to see if the 3d support is available :) [01:14] Killuacba, the easy way is to test if the xubuntu live cd works with your pc :) [01:14] im so newbie... and i wanna to try to get more performance for my old lap xD [01:14] Killuacba, if that works, you'll be fine [01:14] live works.... but when i try to instal... crashed (freezes) [01:15] ill try whit the windows instaler and the cd [01:15] Killuacba, weird [01:15] Killuacba, wubi will install xubuntu *inside* your windows [01:15] yes, thats why i download the cd [01:16] Killuacba, so that's not a permanent choice, but a good test nevertheless [01:16] and when is intalling... freezes [01:16] the lap stop all work... not read HDD even cd-rom [01:37] It appears that my box restarted itself last night. It couldn't have been a software update because it wasn't even connected to the Internet at that time. Which log is the likely place to contain the reason of the restart? [01:58] what are min requirements for xubuntu 12.4 [01:58] xubuntu580, with 512MB ram, you'll be rather fine [01:58] will 950 mhz processor work [01:59] xubuntu580, probably, but RAM decides the most [01:59] i have 512mb [01:59] xubuntu580, should be okay [02:31] alguien habla español? [02:32] ChildBurn: /join #xubuntu-es :) [02:34] thanks holstein [02:34] ChildBurn: anytime :) [02:35] somebody know about this problem that I have with a repository [02:35] ChildBurn: which.. is it a PPA [02:35] apt-get update shows me this : W: Imposible obtener http://ppa.launchpad.net/alexmurray/indicator-sensors/ubuntu/dists/precise/main/source/Sources 404 Not Found [02:36] yes it's a ppa [02:36] ChildBurn: could be a dead PPA..i would contact the maintainer [02:36] i would try using purge ppa to get back to "normal" [02:37] i tried to put a ppa that works in 11.10 but in 12.04 it appears it doesnt work [02:37] my english is bad sorry ^^ [02:38] ChildBurn: it doesnt have to... you'll need to ask the maintaner for 12.04 support.. or just grab the .deb's out and try them [02:38] what command exactly do i have to use to purge ppa [02:38] sudo purge ppa only? [02:39] http://www.webupd8.org/2012/02/how-to-use-launchpad-ppa-add-remove.html [02:39] sudo ppa-purge ppa:someppa/ppa [02:40] thanks holstein i'll watch that [02:42] it appears that work.. thanks holstein [02:42] ppa-purge script doesn't work [02:42] you might need to install ppa-purge [02:42] in others ppa's that work but in this it doesnt work [02:42] yes i installed it [02:43] without seeing some error messages.. i dont know what the issue is [02:43] but if its working, its working... enjoy! [02:43] but --remove works.. thank you very much holstein [02:43] now all's right [02:44] again sorry my bad english ^ [02:44] ^^ [02:44] ChildBurn: no worries [02:45] well i'm leaving, thank you very mucho for the help.. [02:45] much, sorry [02:46] i never used IRC it's great === jalcine is now known as jacky [03:45] greeting,,,I am on xubuntu 1204 release running live, install minitube, installed ok however, I do not have video in many tubes.. can anyone help? [03:45] i would try the chrome browser [03:46] or another browser in general... if some videos play and others dont, maybe its a problem with the content [03:47] I don't think it is content, cos they can play in some other distros on the same tubes [03:47] cool.. its likely a flash issue anyways [03:50] how do i setup default master channel of sound mixer in 12.04 [03:50] because if i press increase volume it increases hdmi [03:55] was 12.04 released? [03:55] Yeah. === jacky is now known as JackyAlcine === JackyAlcine is now known as Jacky === Jacky is now known as jacky [04:55] anyone with compiz installed and the magic_lamp minimize animation that no longer works? [04:55] after 12.04 [05:29] What is the means to upgrade from 12.04 beta to 12.04 final and keep previous software selections intact? [05:31] I was thinking there was an option from the install disc, but not seeing it immediately. [06:40] lots of crash reports today? [06:42] just this while i try to upgrade 11.10 into 12.04: 'E:Couldn't configure pre-depend libtinfo5 for libncurses5, probably a dependency cycle.' [06:42] perhaps its better to stay with 11.10 a while... [06:42] I've had about 10 crashes today [06:43] but it's been running pretty good since upgrading driver and installing a few apps that have probably fixed a few issues. [06:43] hmm [06:44] looking sweet now though :) [06:44] how are these new shortcuts? [06:44] http://i.imgur.com/pDbef.jpg === `mOOse` is now known as m00se [06:45] oh lol [06:45] so macosish did you used compiz with the expose thing? ;) [06:46] cairo dock [06:47] im happy with a single (fat) vertical panel and the few shortcuts i need === flaxoffline is now known as flaxo [07:29] hi [07:50] in 12.04 keyboard layouts somehow are broken or? [07:55] Marzata: What makes you say that? [07:56] This close to release, you can be fairly certain that if we knew about it, but didn't have time to fix it, it'd be mentioned in the Release Notes. [07:57] The default keybinds changed, there was something in the notes about it too. [07:57] just installed clean 12.04. Added keyboard layouts to the panel. All seems ok like 11.10. But I can't switch the layouts. [08:05] Hmm... interesting. I'm in the middle of something here, but I can fire up a session in Parallels in about 20 minutes. Let me get back to you on that. === jacky is now known as JackyAlcine [08:19] Marzata: Well, I just added another layout, and then added the plugin to the panel, and clicking on the flag changes between them. How is it behaving on you? [08:19] huh === JackyAlcine is now known as jalcine [08:20] it does not respond on clicking [08:20] astraljava: in this in 12.04? === jalcine is now known as siibot [08:21] Yes. [08:22] it is not clickable here === siibot is now known as Jacky [08:23] also when use the button Left Win - same [08:23] Marzata: Can you take a screenshot of the Properties. please? === Jacky is now known as siibot === siibot is now known as jacky [08:24] yes, but properties work only once, on the 2nd attempt they are disabled. [08:28] astraljava: can you receive it? [08:29] No, please imagebin it. [08:32] astraljava: http://imagebin.org/209948 [08:33] Do you know how long will 10.04 be supported? [08:33] Desktop 3 years, server 5. [08:33] Oh, sorry, Xubuntu? I'm not sure. [08:36] Marzata: Well, I have it almost exactly like you, only difference is the layouts used, and it works for me. [08:36] I will have to dig up some more info later on how to triage that particular problem. [08:36] ok thanks [08:39] astraljava, thanks [08:41] Wizard: http://xubuntu.org/news/10-04-release/ doesn't say either. [08:41] I just don't want to update my laptop at work [08:43] Wizard: Well most of the archive packages get updates another year still. Some for three (if they fall under the server package set), but not sure about the Xubuntu-only related. [09:01] ciao a tutti [09:16] is there a network proxy gui, like the one in ubuntu. I have set /etc/apt/apt.conf and /etc/wgetrc with my proxy settings manually, but cannot seem to download Additional Drivers [09:23] ntp install craches from the menu [09:26] bepebe, maybe add *_proxy in /etc/environment to make 'em system-wide? [09:27] dkrotx, what do you exactly mean *_proxy, I am in /etc/enviroment now, what should I be typing? [09:27] http_proxy=...; just like as in wgetrc [09:28] its blank at the moment, so I'll just add ftp_proxy, http_proxy and https_proxy and that should work ? [09:31] bepebe, just try it. I never did this way since I use no proxy. BTW, you have to reboot/reinit after that. [09:31] cheers dkrotx, will give it a try, much appreciated. [09:35] dkrotx, seems to be working, ever so slowly (no doubt due to the newest release) thank you ever so much! [09:38] Can someone help with adding folders to panels in xubuntu 12.04? how can i do that :) [09:39] for example my downloads folder [09:42] add launcher for file manager, edit it to have directory you want as working directory, or "thunar /path/to/" as executed command [09:43] ok,thanks ;) [09:49] Yeah! works great...thanks again :) [11:11] Ok, so this is weird... there's a python-distribute-doc but no python-distribute? [11:12] hi [11:12] i need some help [11:12] or, is python-setuptools now using distribute instead because they're API compatible? [11:12] how do i install software from tar.gz [11:13] http://www.ptcl.com.pk/uploads/linux%20SW.zip [11:13] this is what i am trying to install [11:13] how do i install it [11:13] ??? [11:15] is anyone here? === flaxo is now known as flaxoffline [11:16] Y U NO RESPOND [11:17] !patience [11:17] Don't feel ignored and repeat your question quickly; if nobody knows your answer, nobody will answer you. While you wait, try searching https://help.ubuntu.com or http://ubuntuforums.org or http://askubuntu.com/ [11:17] please help [11:17] ok [11:17] thanks [11:17] http://www.ptcl.com.pk/uploads/linux%20SW.zip [11:18] here's the link try it on your own pc [11:21] Shayan, please refer to the install guide in the package [11:23] what knome said [11:24] there's a file in there with a name that starts "install user guide" [11:29] knome:the instal guide doesn't work i tried it that's why i am here [11:29] when i run it nothing happens [11:31] Maybe you should talk to the authors of that software and let them know why their instructions fail? [11:31] ok i will try but thier CHINESE [11:37] Hi can anyone tell me why xubuntu 12.04 LTS (according to the website) only has 3 years support while ubuntu 12.04 has 5 years? [11:44] hi, as kbdleds made it to 12.04 ? [11:44] im searching for it [11:48] xubuntu976: Because it's totally community-supported. We don't have enough manpower to do what Ubuntu does. === SandJ is now known as Is === Is is now known as SandJ [11:49] v1Ns: Doesn't look like it. [11:52] :( [11:52] it takes 300mb of libs to compile it... [11:52] i have a wireless KB with no leds on it.. [11:53] oh well [11:53] * v1Ns is out [11:53] do you get leds on a wireless kb ? [11:53] i dont think so [11:53] would eat the battery [11:53] yeah [11:54] my receiver has the leds on it [11:54] dont start that [11:54] i dont [11:54] ^__^ [11:54] ciao === Wizard_ is now known as Wizard [12:59] any help to make xkb keyboard plugin work? [13:00] I just installed it on VB and it worked. But on my thinkpad laptop simply doesn't work. [13:01] I did reinstall it even. [13:30] Hi everyone.. i just installed Xubuntu 12.04, I have 3 monitors.. only one of them has the tray.. ther other two seem greyed out and have the same desktop icons as the first one [13:30] how can i fix this? [13:31] Tray? [13:31] i mean.. the top bar [13:32] where i can drop launchers .. i guess its called panel? [13:32] Ah, ok. Strange.. Is the bottom panel visible? [13:32] actually.. i dont see a bottom in any of my 3 monitors [13:33] Ah, maybe 12.04 doesn't have bottom panel anymore. [13:33] nishttal2: Maybe install arandr or grandr, and have a go with that? Multi-monitor setups can be tricky. [13:33] you know what.. if i hover over the bottom.. a mac os like tray pops up [13:34] nishttal2: Yeah, that's the dock. [13:34] but only on the 1st monitor (which has a top panel)... nothing on the other 2 monitors [13:34] That's a bottom panel. That is default. Go to panel options and select "strech to other displays" or something like this. [13:35] so I have 2 X-screens setup.. Screen 0 is the 1st monitor and Screen 1 has twinview over the other 2 monitors [13:35] how can I make Screen 1 the primary for Xubuntu [13:39] can anyone tell me how I apply themes I can download from xfce-look.org? the has nothing in it and i can find a how to on the site [13:40] astraljava, Wizard there is something wrong with the window manager as well.. please see the http://tinypic.com/view.php?pic=2ljj0yc&s=6 [13:41] and http://i46.tinypic.com/2jaf984.png for the 2nd screen [13:41] notice how the title is blurry on the 1st one [13:42] donavan01, You move theme direcotry (containing gtkrc file) to ~/.themes or /usr/share/themes [13:42] nishttal2, I suggest using twin view for all monitors. [13:43] Wizard thank you ... i figured it was easy but I didnt know what to do [13:43] You are welcome, donavan01. [13:43] Wizard, i had the same setup with Ubuntu 10.10 and I used it for 2+yrs [13:43] Hmm. [13:43] Wizard, used to that now [13:43] why a shortcut Super+T for the Terminal instead of Ctrl+Alt+T in Ubuntu or Lubuntu ? Super+T in Unity is for trash ! [13:49] is there a way to copy files from within thunar without having to open it with SUDO [13:51] donavan01: if you're using it to move root owned things then it needs root rights, shouldn't need root rights other than that and if you're opening a gui app with root better to use gksudo I believe [13:52] well im just trying to move a theme into the /usr/share/themes directory but its having none of that [13:53] gksudo thunar then or do it from a terminal [13:53] Yes, donavan01, but you can put that in ~/.themes [13:53] Which I do. [13:53] by ~/ what do you mean ... my home directory? [13:53] yea [13:53] Yes, donavan01. [13:54] ok thats what I thought [13:54] nishttal2, Did you use xfce on Ubuntu 10.10 with that setup? [13:55] Seems not. :) [13:55] :) [13:56] so uhmm I dont have ~/.themes [13:56] Ctrl+H to see hidden folders [13:57] donavan01, If you don't have it - create it :) [13:57] yeah I told it to show hidden [13:57] wizard didnt know if that would work [13:58] Why so? [13:58] just didnt know ... still a noob in linux wasnt sure if it would look there without me telling it [13:59] Wizard, no i was using whatever Ubuntu 10.10 came with.. this is the first time I am trying Xubuntu.. bcoz i dont like Unity or Gnome3 [14:03] Wizard, is there no way to make Screen 1 as primary and not Screen 0 === Myrtti_ is now known as Myrtti [14:04] I understand. XFCE may have problems with xinerama. [14:04] I don't know how to set main screen, maybe grandr has such option. [14:04] I'm gonna check. [14:04] could i use something other than XFCE on Xubuntu [14:04] or does it then defeat the purpose [14:05] Unable to locate package grandr [14:05] you can install whatever desktop you want in ubuntu [14:05] i prefer arandr [14:05] * holstein +1 for arandr [14:05] I thought there was Wizard - got 2 monitors here [14:05] +1 from me too [14:07] when i start arandr it just shows me the current xscreen.. my 3rd monitor runs a different xscreen [14:07] nmittal, I had the same problem with my Nvidia card; Even if I select "Make Primary" in Nvidia Server Setting, it just had no sence. Then I detached display I want to make *secondary*, restarted X, attached it back and restarted X server again. And now it's fine. [14:08] I also have 2 monitors [14:08] Wizard, i have 4 [14:08] Wizard, 3 [14:08] LOL [14:08] ) [14:08] Myrtti: maybe take a minute to explore arandr.. make sure you look under the menu options [14:08] Ok, I have to go home. See you :) [14:08] And I agree, arandr is better, thanks holstein [14:09] holstein: huhwhat? [14:09] holstein, there is nothing that looks relevant under the menu options [14:09] Wizard, thanks for your help.. later [14:09] dkrotx, detach?? unplug? [14:09] Myrtti: that was a typo pinging you... sorry :) [14:10] nmittal, yea, unplug ) [14:10] dkrotx, ok worth a try [14:10] dkrotx, do you use compiz at all? [14:10] nmittal: what graphics-card are u using? [14:10] nmittal: under "outputs", if you dont see the graphics card outputs there, you might explore 3rd party drivers and/or other kernel versions [14:10] koegs, Nvidia quadro 420 [14:11] nmittal, afaik - no. [14:11] nmittal: did you use nvidia-settings for configuration? [14:11] koegs, yes [14:12] should be some option in the nvidia-settings, i think [14:12] koegs, so I have 2 X-screens setup.. Screen 0 is the 1st monitor and Screen 1 has twinview over the other 2 monitors [14:12] why 2 X? [14:13] i want 4 desktops/workspaces on 1 screen and 1 on the other [14:13] thats how i've always had it setup on ubuntu 10.10 [14:13] hm, ok, got no clue [14:15] i've update to 12.04 lts, do i need to do anything special to update xfce? [14:22] acalbaza: assuming you had xubuntu/xfce installed before...no. [14:23] drc: thanks [14:26] acalbaza: For what it's worth, XFCE 4.10 is/was (?) due to be released tomorrow :) [14:26] drc: so i should look to update the xfce pacakge tomorrow [14:27] I wouldn't [14:28] no? [14:28] is it really tomorrow? [14:28] I doubt seriously that the Xubuntu team will have even a ppa ready that quickly. [14:28] ahh [14:28] drc: there is a ppa already :D [14:28] http://www.xfce.org/ says "...final 4.10 release which is set to be pushed out to the world on April 28th, 2012." [14:29] is it possible to actually make use of gnome-keyring-daemon properly in Xubuntu? you don't get any of the nice things that GNOME seems to get from it, and i notice in auth.log you get "couldn't set environment variable in session: The name org.gnome.SessionManager was not provided by any .service files" [14:29] drc: yes indeed just saw it [14:33] baizon: a ppa, huh? [14:33] Hello everyone :) [14:34] drc: https://launchpad.net/~mrpouit/+archive/ppa [14:34] its currently pre2 [14:34] I installed Xubuntu 12.04 LTS yesterday, and i must say i am pleased! i finally have a desktop enviroment so i can escape Unity and Gnome3 Shell [14:34] but i would recommend this one [14:34] https://launchpad.net/~xubuntu-dev/+archive/xfce-4.10 [14:35] nice to hear Mike-Linux-NL :) [14:35] i do have a small problem tho [14:35] i installed rhytmbox as my default audio player, and when i use my laptops hotkeys to change or mute volume, the animation works, but the volume wont change [14:36] same in vlc and totem, wich i also installed... [14:37] i know the hotkeys work. but the volume control underneath is not working... only with the mouse... [14:37] did it work wirk xubuntu 11.10? [14:37] with* [14:37] Mike-Linux-NL: Check to see if xfce4-volumed is installed [14:38] Has anyone seen problems with users who are authenticated through winbind not being able to access the root window? [14:38] drc: its installed.... [14:38] heres a screenie of my desktop: http://dl.dropbox.com/u/4260461/Screenshots/Xubuntu-Precise.jpg [14:39] xubuntu with ambiance and made it look like gnome2 :) [14:39] i even was able to flip my webcam using a script for libv4l, and that works... now the volume control buttons need to be fixed [14:39] is it cairo dock? [14:39] I was going to say, that looks like gnome2 :) [14:39] no, docky [14:40] ok [14:40] ]yerah well, i dont like the default xfce look.... they should have made it with ambiance and radiance by default to blend in the ubuntu family [14:41] Mike-Linux-NL: i agree with that :) [14:41] so i uninstalled most xfce apps, and replaced them with the gnome and kde apps i use [14:41] heavens NO! [14:42] i use xfce as a the base to drive my apps [14:42] I don't understand why use xubuntu if you totally change the look and apps, that's just ubuntu? [14:42] so i dont neeed to use unity or gnome3 shell that is forced down our throats... [14:43] now i run xfce and it looks and feels like the gnome2 that i always use [14:43] Mike-Linux-NL, what theme you got, looks a hash-up of a couple? [14:43] its ambiance [14:43] So...why not use MATE? [14:43] cause MATE is not complete and immature for now [14:43] i also tried cinnamon [14:43] ok [14:43] cinnamon is windows 7 like [14:44] not gnome 2 [14:44] looks more like a mish mash which always gives problems [14:44] yeah but yoy have a regular menu [14:44] i HATE dash [14:44] my laptop is not a tablet! [14:44] Mike-Linux-NL: Have you looked at SalixOS with MATE? [14:44] tablet = gnome shell [14:44] i like unity :) [14:45] what ubuntu is doing with unity and Gnome3 is what windows is doing with windows 8 [14:46] i was so NOT looking forward to the 12.04 release... [14:46] cause it means i have to use it.. and thats why i tried out Xubuntu and altered it to my needs [14:46] guys, #xubuntu-offtopic does exist :) [14:47] btw, is there a possibillity to install unity-greeter without the 128mb of extra dependancies? [14:50]