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yofel_penalizacja: not by default, but you can install kde-telepathy if you want00:00
penalizacjaok thanks00:00
penalizacjajust got confused with release nites :)00:01
phiscribeok logging out and back in, the fonts are better, not super but better00:01
juacom99Hi, i got a big big problem, i update to Kubuntu 12.04 and i don't see the close, minimize, restore button on my windows, any idea how can i fix it :S00:02
DorkVadercan one mount .iso images from within dolphin?00:03
juacom99ple00:11
juacom99please help,  i update to Kubuntu 12.04 and i don't see the close, minimize, restore button on my windows, any idea how can i fix it :S00:11
juacom99and the windows always stay on top00:12
natmanwooohoo just after installing 12.0400:12
juacom99yes00:12
natmanshould muon auto inform me of any updates?00:12
juacom99it happend to you too?00:12
natmanor do i need to run it a first time?00:12
DorkVaderyo, can I add a specific program to klicker?  or that alt+f2 launcher?   It is a program I installed from a CD and want to be able to launch quickly00:14
deevadHi, I installed Thunderbird on Kubuntu 12.04 LTS , and the systray 'message indicator' doesn't display a little 'envelop/letter' icon ( filled in green when message received ) as in my previous install of Kubuntu 11.10 .  Is it known ?00:14
deevadDorkVader:  right-click on 'K' menu  > Edit application  ; set a new item00:16
deevadDorkVader:  you will make it a menu item. Able to be favorited00:17
gensymvhi, i can't get to activate vpn connections using the network manager applet is anyone having similar problems?00:19
gensymvit complains about the driver not being there00:21
gensymvweirdly enough vpnc on it self works00:21
DorkVaderdeevad: great, thanks!00:29
deevad:)00:30
isis___Hello everyone! I've just updated to 12.04, i have an nvidia card with current driver from their site. OpenGL composite freezes my screen, any help please?00:39
isis___XRender works with minimal effects, but when i try to use the opengl, it freezes, tells to restore previous config, and kwin complains about not being able to load blur wobbly and some others00:40
detrixHello, I just installed Kubuntu, 12.04. Problem: hard drive was partitioned, to have root, and home directories separate. I wanted to just use the home directory that was there. my accont user name is detrix, but for some reason kde main menu, under computer shows my home directory as /home/adam    I do not know where that came from, and I can't seem to change it. I checked passwd, and it is set correctly there. I do not know what00:41
detrixelse to do.00:41
monkeyjuicedetrix:  check on #ubuntu they might be able to help00:46
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DorkVaderso, I hate to be a stickler for details, but is there a way to make the fonts look a bit better?  maybe I am just used to windows, but things seem a bit off to me00:49
isis___DorkVader: did u try cleantype?00:50
DorkVaderwhat is this cleantype you speak of?00:50
isis___antialising00:50
DorkVaderthis is an option  you can enable then?00:50
isis___yeah00:50
DaemonFCcleartype is just a Microsoft-ism for subpixel font anti-aliasing00:51
DorkVaderin which system settings thing?00:51
DaemonFCif that's what you were referring to....00:51
isis___u go to the panel settings -> application appearence -> fonts00:51
isis___it is the same effect00:51
isis___smoother fonts00:51
DorkVaderok, it was set to "System Settigns", I'm not sure if it was set00:52
DorkVaderhinting style medium,  use sub-pixel rendering "RGB", thats it?00:52
DaemonFCshould be00:52
isis___try that to your likes00:52
DaemonFCyou need to restart all applications that are running for it to take effect though00:52
DorkVaderyeah, ok00:53
DaemonFCbugs in certain applications or video drivers can cause bizarre side effects, so I believe the KDE upstream default is disabled unless application requests it00:54
DaemonFCif you start seeing font rendering problems, then you might want to turn it back off :)00:55
DorkVaderah, ok, sounds good00:55
DorkVaderis there a quick way to do a shutdown of KDE, relogin and launch all the apps again?00:55
DorkVaderend session I guess is what I want00:56
DaemonFCjust log out and log back in and it should be in effect globally00:56
isis___whats this? KWin::EffectsHandlerImpl::loadEffect: EffectsHandler::loadEffect : Effect  "kwin4_effect_blur"  is not support01:00
DragnslcrJust rebooted into 12.04, and it looks like DNS resolution isn't working. Anybody else having the same problem?01:01
DorkVaderDaemonFC, isis___: great, thanks for the help there01:01
DaemonFCyour video driver doesn't support that effect or loading it will cause kwin to become unstable due to your video driver01:01
isis___DorkVader: ur welcome01:02
DaemonFCditto01:02
DaemonFCisis___: kwin probes for video adapter model and driver loaded and will blacklist plugins or choose a backend accordingly. Different drivers obviously have their own bugs, missing features, etc.01:03
DaemonFCif you're using a KDE release older than 4.8.x, then the Blur effect is outrageously computationally expensive and you might consider disabling it anyway, jsut for performance reasons01:05
isis___im running 4.8.201:06
isis___it is not just the blur01:06
DaemonFCwhat's your graphics adapter and driver?01:06
DragnslcrMy virtual machines that are still on 11.10 seem to work fine, so I'm pretty sure it's a problem with something that changed with the 12.04 upgrade01:06
DorkVaderare you installing this in a virtual machine?  make sure you have 2D/3D acceleration enabled, and enough GPU memory allocated01:07
the3rdbitMoin Leute01:07
DorkVaderEnable PAE/NX,  Enable IO  APIC01:08
the3rdbitWie kann ich einen lokaler Internetradio unter Kubuntu sharen?01:08
isis___i have a nvidia , the current driver from their site, uninstalled the nouveau01:08
the3rdbitalso so wie eine .pls unter ampache, bloss ohne ampache ;)01:08
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isis___opengl freezes, glxgears shows okay01:09
the3rdbitsry EN: how can I share a local internet radio01:10
the3rdbit?01:10
DaemonFCglxgears isn't really complicated, the only thing it's good for is ensuring that you have some sort of hardware acceleration available for OpenGL01:10
DaemonFCif you are getting much less 60 fps in it, you have a serious problem, and that's the only thing it's useful for checking01:11
the3rdbitthe idea is to share the whole ALSA output as .pls... is this possible?01:12
isis___what sort of hardware acceleration should i run?01:12
DaemonFCCompiz and Kwin maintainers both recommend open source over proprietary for correctness (although performance can be worse)01:13
isis___im running kwin,01:14
isis___but i really cant figure it out why it hangs up with opengl01:14
isis___composite effects01:14
DragnslcrI figured it out. Something in the new resolvconf is broken for me. Replacing the /etc/resolv.conf symlink with my old resolv.conf file seems to work for now01:15
DaemonFCglancing around it looks like Blur caused serious performance problems with Nvidia's proprietary driver, and that's why it was blacklisted01:15
DaemonFCisis___: You'd have to ask Nvidia about why their driver has bugs and if and when they plan to fix the problem01:15
the3rdbithello01:16
isis___I've disabled all the effects that were complaining, it still freezes and goes back to xrender01:18
DaemonFCdisabling them wouldn't do anything because it already refused to load them in the first place when it detected your driver01:18
DorkVaderyo, so my mouse has a problem with the scroll wheel... when I scroll up or down, it is way too fast.  I have it set to only scroll one line in the System Settings->Input Devices->Mouse.  Should I be changing xorg configs, xset thingies, etc?  any advice, cheers01:18
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isis___im not quite sure if it is nvidia to blame, this already happened to me a year ago, it is some combination of packages from nvidia,kwin, mesa, gl that make a mess01:19
DaemonFCMesa wouldn't figure into that, Nvidia has their own OpenGL implementation01:19
stephanhey01:20
stephanhey, using 12.04, where can I find a kde3 repository for that?01:20
stephanneed the old kmail01:21
DaemonFCThere is no KDE 3. It has been exterminated. :)01:21
stephanyeah... but I know there are unofficial 3.5 repos01:21
stephanthought maybe someone can help me find one that works with 10.1401:21
DaemonFCYou could try Trinity, but that's entirely unofficial and would not be supported here.01:21
z3r0d3rpanyone know why the password screen for encrypted drives changed to generic in the latest release... and how to switch it back to the way it was in 11.1001:22
szal10.14?01:22
stephansorry, meant 12.0401:22
z3r0d3rpI'm referring to the unlock screen for encrypted lvm01:23
bmbhow are the ati drivers working in 12.0401:23
bmbfrom additional drivers or am i better of install ones from ati site01:24
DaemonFCbmb: The proprietary ones?01:24
phiscribeis a virutal desktop across all monitors?01:25
DaemonFCthey uploaded a Catalyst 12.4 pre-release, it appears to not be causing any obvious problems.01:25
phiscribedesktops activities multiple monitors search and launch news folder view, too many options ugg01:25
DaemonFCthere's two options that Jockey should provide for proprietary graphics drivers, one offers post-release updates, and one doesn't01:26
bmbwhich should i use01:26
DorkVaderhm... apparently the solution with my mouse scroll wheel problem is plug/replugin the  mouse: http://askubuntu.com/questions/32280/mouse-wheel-jumpy-on-scrolling01:26
DaemonFCit depends, AMD is planning to drop everything pre-RadeonHD 5000 series in Catalyst 12.7, which would be July01:27
DaemonFCso if you have something older than that, you might want to use the one that doesn't update01:27
bmbIm ok 5800 series01:28
DaemonFCthen you probably want the one that gives updates01:28
the3rdbit?01:28
bmbill give them a shot01:29
DaemonFCyou should also install the xvba-va-driver package01:30
DaemonFCit allows video decoding to be partially offloaded to the card's UVD engine in some cases, worth having01:30
bmbsound useful for media playback01:32
bmbsounds01:32
juacom99pelase help, i update to 12.04 and now the windows don't have the close button, they stay on top even when i touch the show desktop windows anyone can help me plese01:35
the3rdbitis there any possibility to share the alsa output?01:37
the3rdbitfor example as .pls01:37
rapidspjuacom99: try kwin --replace01:38
the3rdbitrapidsp: kwin??01:39
the3rdbitrapidsp: oops sry this was not for me01:39
DorkVaderwell... color me surprised.  sound card working out of the box in linux.01:39
DaemonFCmost do if they're from a reputable vendor (like most hardware in general)01:40
jucom99my connection drop :(01:40
jucom99dvds01:41
jucom99do you read me?01:42
rapidspyea01:42
DorkVaderno01:42
jucom99DorkVader: lol01:42
jucom99any idea what my problem may be :S01:42
rapidspjucom99: and try change window theme  in settings01:42
jucom99i can't even resize my window or change form one window to another :S01:43
rapidspor run kde by new user01:45
DorkVaderso, when I watch youtube videos in rekonq, the color is off... the skin tone is bluish... but the preview of the video, if you scroll along the time line, the skin tones are normal01:46
DorkVaderif I knew how to take screenshots in KDE, I would show you01:46
the3rdbitDorkVader: kscreenshot?01:46
natmanHi fresh install of 12.04 on laptop, after boot screen goes dark for log in page, once i log in its bright again01:46
DaemonFCDorkVader: Print Screen key01:47
the3rdbitDorkVader: oops KSNAPSHOT01:47
DorkVaderah, ok01:48
DorkVaderprintscreen key... that was awesome01:48
rapidspwhen do you sleep all? :)01:48
DorkVaderok, check this out: http://imgur.com/rbeKu01:48
the3rdbitxD01:48
DorkVadersee how the skin tones in the "preview" images of the youtube videos look ok, but the playing video has a bluish tone?  strange, eh?01:48
DorkVaderalso, don't ask why I am watching korean singing talent show youtube videos01:49
DaemonFCactually, I'd ask why you weren't using the ad blocker ;)01:50
DorkVaderI have ethical issues with adblockers01:51
DorkVaderalso, for the record, I didn't believe that my sound card could possibly work in linux out of the box, so I clicked on the first youtubes video that was on the front page of youtubes01:52
rapidspDorkVader: another browser is correct?01:52
DorkVaderI don't know, I am on a mission to only use rekonq for the next week01:52
DorkVaderI don't have iceweasel and/or firefox, or chrome, or konqueror installed01:53
rapidspsad01:54
DorkVaderI want to live the KDE dream01:54
DaemonFCIt would be nice if someone resurrected the Firefox Qt bindings01:54
DaemonFCI don't believe they even build anymore01:55
phiscribewhats that utility called to pipe stuff to a pastebin from command line?01:55
rapidspphiscribe: maybe http://linuxers.org/article/pastebinit-command-line-pastebin-client01:56
phiscribethats the one! fresh install and adding stuff i like back, could not remember it, thanks01:57
DorkVaderrapidsp: I am trying to use only KDE software for a few weeks01:58
phiscribekde is so nice looking, i just wanna leave it up for visitors01:58
DorkVaderso, do most people here use neopiookumpk/Strigi/desktop search indexing?01:59
DaemonFCI'm not particularly fond of any web browser, but I use Firefox most of the time01:59
phiscribemost people i find turn most or all of that off, i generaly like indexing, but it seems a bit rough around the edges atm02:00
DorkVaderphiscribe: I want to give it a shot02:00
DaemonFCI feel it's one of those things where nobody is doing the right thing02:00
DorkVaderI have been using OS X for the last 6 years, and their spotlight indexing is fan-fucking-tastic02:00
IdleOne!language | DorkVader02:00
ubottuDorkVader: Please watch your language and topic to help keep this channel family-friendly, polite, and professional.02:00
DorkVaderoh my02:01
phiscribeyeah a lot of good ideas that are buried in the features, that could be usuefull if one had a clue02:01
DorkVaderDaemonFC: I like google chrome myself02:01
DaemonFCI have ethical issues with Chrome02:01
phiscribeyeah i am solid chrome or chromium, im too google centric02:01
DorkVaderDaemonFC: but firefox seems to have made some very good improvements in the last 6-12 months or so02:01
DaemonFClately, their banding with Microsoft to handcuff HTML 502:01
phiscribei dont care if the know what im doing, my butler would to if i had one02:02
DorkVaderis that possible though?  I thoguht chrome was built on web kit?02:02
z3r0d3rpFF is still king02:02
DaemonFCI don't think Webkit or Chrome are good for an open web02:02
phiscribefirefox has some plugins that are just not duplicable elsewhere02:02
* DorkVader just allocated 512mb of ram for neopookumuk database processes02:02
z3r0d3rpfirefox has about 100 plugins that aren't available in other browsers02:03
DaemonFCMozilla had some harsh criticism for the HTML 5 DRM platform that Google and Microsoft are proposing02:03
DaemonFCan early version of that has shown up as an "experiment" in Chrome 2002:04
z3r0d3rpthey shouldn't be adding DRM to any open standard02:04
phiscribewell i use chrome or chromium because it of the sync settings, saving my apps plugins ect, becaues of goggle voice, because it has and app store like a tablet02:04
DorkVaderDRM is probably to protect content, not the "standard"02:04
DaemonFCit restricts content, mostly from legal and legitimate use02:04
z3r0d3rpwell DRM in any form is unethical02:04
z3r0d3rpalso doesn't do a thing to hamper piracy02:04
phiscribei think copyright is unethical02:04
DorkVaderI think the GPL is unethical02:05
phiscribeif i read a book , its in my brain you cant own it02:05
z3r0d3rpcopyright is fine, DRM is unethical02:05
phiscribeyour legal right to the info shouldnt penetrate my head02:05
DaemonFCI'm hoping this is an experiment that blows up in Google's face02:05
z3r0d3rpCopyright should not stifle innovation... which it currently does02:06
z3r0d3rpthe whole system should be scrapped02:06
DaemonFCI'd expect something like this from Microsoft, but Google pursuing it with Microsoft is sad02:06
z3r0d3rpGoogle backed CISPA02:06
z3r0d3rpdo no evil" my butt02:06
phiscribeits imaginary property, trying to own data, its like trying to own calculus02:06
DaemonFCit seems they're just trying to make something else that's like Flash+openwashing02:07
z3r0d3rp"owning" information lol02:07
DorkVaderphiscribe: So I hope you publish every one of your private emails online publically02:08
DorkVaderphiscribe: after all, it's just data02:08
phiscribeim not saying they shouldnt be allowed to hide their date or keep it to themselves, just that if the cats out of the bag, its out of the bag02:10
z3r0d3rpApple's new iBooks EULA says that any content created with it can only be sold through Apple02:10
DorkVaderon an unrelated topic: is publically even a word?    Doesn't KDE have a built in dictionary that higlights these type of embarassing misspellings?02:10
phiscribegoogle apple ms and the music recording industry are suing the Akashic records i heard02:10
z3r0d3rppublically is a word02:10
z3r0d3rppublically embarrassed02:10
DorkVaderpublicly?02:10
z3r0d3rp?02:10
DorkVaderpub-lickly02:10
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z3r0d3rpbazhang: tell me how to get the unlock screen for encrypted drives from 11.10 back in 12.0402:11
bazhangz3r0d3rp, ask the channel, if someone knows they will answer02:12
z3r0d3rpI did ask02:12
phiscribemy mouse wheel doesnt seem to work02:12
DorkVaderSo, lets get back on topic: dictionaries and automatic spellings in KDE?  does such a monster exist?02:13
phiscribefor what app02:13
DorkVaderall apps02:13
z3r0d3rpDorkVader: it's app dependent02:14
phiscribedont think so, spelling is per app, in any os i can think of02:14
DorkVaderso how about konversation I wonder?  is konversation a popular irc client?  I tried quassle, but wasn't a fan.02:15
phiscribeYou have a Logitecth Mouse connected, and libsub was found at compile time, but it was not passible to access this mouse.  This is brobably cuased by a permissions problem, you should consult the manula on how to fix this.02:15
DorkVaderhm..... kspell isn't a package?02:16
phiscribethat is what shows on the cordless elite duo tab in the mouse settings under input devices under system prfrences, what permesions??  the wheel doesnt work02:16
phiscribesome apps may use the same dictonary but it is still per app02:16
DorkVaderwell... I better reboot, I've changed a lot of thingies02:18
phiscribeok, all the sudden the wheel works02:19
phiscribeah i gotta reboot to, video driver02:20
rapidspsudden :)02:21
dave2012hello I'm new to kubuntu; I am trying to join 6 avi files and render them into a dvd compliant format, kdenlive makes the audio sync out from the 3rd file onwards, are there better ways to do this?02:28
z3r0d3rptry another editor?02:29
z3r0d3rpare the input settings the same?02:30
dave2012devede does the same :(02:30
z3r0d3rpsounds like the problem might be in ffmpeg02:30
dave2012yes, kdenlive reminded me thankfully02:30
z3r0d3rpI haven't used either in 11.10 or 12.0402:31
z3r0d3rpthey worked fine in 10.1002:31
dave2012weird02:31
dave2012I might give openshot a go02:31
dave2012see how that turns out02:32
dave2012thnx for the info02:32
DorkVadersup02:37
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DorkVaderw00t, success02:52
elGuntorIs anyone besides me having problems upgrading from 11.10 to 12.04?02:55
elGuntordo-release-upgrade returns "No new release found"...any ideas?02:57
DorkVadersudo apt-get update && apt-get dist-upgrade ?02:58
elGuntornope =(03:00
DorkVaderelGuntor: same error?  no new release found... ?03:02
elGuntorNot the exact same verbage, but yes, nothing found03:02
elGuntorI've changed servers, and sudo apt-get update and retried also03:03
rapidspelGuntor: do-release-upgrade -d ?03:03
DorkVaderso, what other eye candy impressive effects can I do in kde?03:04
elGuntorsame error...no new release found03:04
rapidspwait...03:04
rapidspserver is main?03:05
elGuntorcurrently yes03:05
rapidspi know there is problem for upgrade 10.04 to 12.0403:06
rapidspmay be for 11.10 same issue03:06
elGuntorokie dokie...guess I'll wait for a bit03:07
z3r0d3rpDorkVader: install oxygen transparent03:12
DorkVaderz3r0d3rp: don't see it03:13
DorkVaderis it a package in the repository?03:13
z3r0d3rpit's not official yet03:13
z3r0d3rpkde look.org03:13
DorkVaderhttp://kde-look.org/content/show.php?content=12775203:14
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z3r0d3rphttp://i.imgur.com/ddO2T.jpg03:15
DorkVadercool03:17
z3r0d3rpinstall the dependencies first03:17
z3r0d3rpthen run the script in a new folder with the --branch stable switch03:17
z3r0d3rponce you run the sript, cd into the "build" directory and do "make -J2"03:19
DorkVaderso how does KDE and/or Linux do with regards to power consumption when your computer sits there doing absolutely nothing... but you don't want it to go to sleep/hiberante?03:19
z3r0d3rpthen sudo make install03:19
z3r0d3rpkde is abou the best03:20
z3r0d3rpunity is second and xfce/lxde third03:20
z3r0d3rpnot much in the way of idle processes03:20
DorkVaderis there a way I can see at which speed my CPU is running for instance?  has it been allowed to down clock itself?03:20
elGuntorz3r0d3rp: What colour scheme are you using in that screenshot?03:21
z3r0d3rpobsidian coast with oxygen transparent widget theme and  ghost deco for window decorations03:22
z3r0d3rpdorkvader I went through every wm looking for a replacement to gnome 2... kde does everything  really well03:24
z3r0d3rpvery little cpu overhead and full featured unlike gnome/unity03:25
elGuntorwhat did you think of cinnamon?03:27
z3r0d3rpI like it in lots of ways but dislike others03:27
z3r0d3rpfor 1 it has lots of processor overhead03:28
elGuntoranything in particular?03:28
phiscribeanyone a font guru? fonts shouldnt be this bad03:28
z3r0d3rpphiscribe: make sure you enable antialiasing and that it is set to slight03:28
phiscribei have it on medium now03:28
z3r0d3rpthat's your problem03:29
z3r0d3rpanother issue with cinnamon is that it lacks a lot of features03:29
phiscribewas worse with it turned off, seems i have log out to make it stick03:29
z3r0d3rpchange it to slight then logout and back in03:29
z3r0d3rpone thing that irritated me to death with cinnamon was that I couldn't replace the panel with awn and disable notification area to use awn as the panel03:31
z3r0d3rpthe cinnamon panel is meh03:31
phiscribewell they are diffrent now (fonts) maybe the dpi can be changed03:31
z3r0d3rpI found that the vid card makes a difference03:32
z3r0d3rpthey look great on my nvidia laptop but getting them to look good in intel graphics was a bit harder03:32
z3r0d3rpbut usually AA enabled with rgb subpixel rendering and slight hinting is usually the best03:34
phiscribei just dont get if i boot into that other os, they are clear and crisp, i dont think about them, here they are obnoxious and right in your face, alwasy squinting and lifting the bifocals up and down, so it shouldnt be the hardware03:34
z3r0d3rpubuntu unity uses different fonts03:34
elGuntorI just use monospace...looks fine03:35
z3r0d3rpI can't remember which off the top of my head03:35
phiscribemaybe if i go to sans or serif or something03:35
z3r0d3rpkde defaults to ubuntu 9 as the system font03:35
z3r0d3rptry changing it around03:35
elGuntorspeaking of desktops and wms...did you try e17?03:35
z3r0d3rpdl helvectica or something03:35
z3r0d3rpenlightenment?03:36
elGuntoryep03:36
z3r0d3rpyeah tried the latest bodhi if that's what you mean03:36
z3r0d3rplooks pretty good03:36
elGuntorthoughts?03:36
phiscribeis there no way to use a completely difrrent rendering system?03:37
z3r0d3rpit's nice for a minimal install03:37
z3r0d3rpphiscribe... boot into your other distro... write down the default fonts and change them to match03:37
z3r0d3rpthat is my best advice03:37
phiscribewell it might be the font, but i think it might be the way they are rendered, ill play with them but i dont think it is the font, its how they are drawn03:38
z3r0d3rpif you use any setting over slight hinting they will distort03:39
phiscribelike now in this chat, the words look like they need a shave03:39
z3r0d3rpI like ubuntu 9 for a notebook it's nice and small, but I would go bigger on a larger monitor03:41
phiscribegonna log out again, trying larger dpi03:44
phiscribeok going to 120 dpi helped a great deal, less fuzzy words03:46
phiscribeeven if they are a bit large03:47
elGuntorgood =)03:47
Roeyhey all05:16
Roeyagain05:16
phiscribepretty quite in here Roey05:20
Roeyheya05:21
joesiHello, wanted to ask which Samba Version is in 12.04 included? I have problems with accessig a Buffalo TeraStation Network Storage05:23
shashi_kubuntuHi. Kubuntu 12.04.  I have installed Google chrome, and dragged that application (copied) to my desktop folder. Initially the application is showing with its Icon, but when i click first time, the Icon is going away, and inplace it is showing questions mark. I explicitly set the Icon, but still Desktop is not showing the icon.05:24
shashi_kubuntuHow to solve this problem ?05:24
phiscribeif it is installed find it from the kickoff launcher, right click on it, and pick add to desktop if you want and icon, and was it chrome or chromium?05:31
phiscribeif it was chrome, you had to use the goggle installer thing, not sure it it will put a link in the launcher05:32
shashi_kubuntuIt is Chrome. This problem is with all third part apps. I did the same. From kickoff launcher -> right click -> add to desktop. But when you click first time on the desktop, the Icon go away.05:35
phiscribeis your desktop set to desktop or search and launch or folder view or news05:36
phiscribejoesi: the libsmbclient is 2:3.6.3-2ubuntu2 not sure if the server is included05:36
joesithanks, I just need the client as the server is the NAS Station05:37
phiscribewell my mouse pointer just went bonkers, but just on one monitor05:38
shashi_kubuntuDesktop05:39
phiscribei dont knwo what to suggest shashi_kubuntu05:39
phiscribeive been using the search and launch interface mostly, so im not as versed in the other mode05:40
phiscribeshashi_kubuntu: are widgets locked? shortcuts are realy just little widgets in kde i think05:48
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unsuccessfulhi06:13
unsuccessfulI have installed KDE,Gnome on Ubuntu. I want to boot and login it in text mode. If i default login interface is lightdm then then text mode work but when it is KDM does not work. Any hint please?06:15
unsuccessfulI get it works somehow but when run "startx" command then it is error "Failed to load session "ubuntu" "06:19
vividhunsuccessful: how to install KDE and Gnome in Ubuntu??06:21
unsuccessfulvividh, "apt-get install kde-plasma-desktop gnome-shell"06:21
unsuccessfulI want the KDE as default session too.06:24
unsuccessfulvividh, anything wrong?06:24
vividhunsuccessful: no, nothing's wrong. I was just wondering if it's better to install KDE in ubuntu, or separately install kubuntu...??06:25
unsuccessfulstartx is working with lightdm but it is getting Default Ubuntu(Unity). But when i change the kde(dpkg-reconfigure kdm) then it does not work06:25
unsuccessfulvividh, may  it not be problem for multiple sessions ?06:31
unsuccessfulvividh, i actually want Gnome and KDE both06:34
vividhunsuccessful: ya me too, but I am torn b/w installing KDE in ubuntu, or installing kubuntu separately. I have only recently transitioned from windows to linux. Sorry if I can't help you.06:36
Free_Bulletswell i have a problem. i removed all the colums from the System Activity window, and i don't see a way of re-adding them.06:37
ZengerHi guys07:03
ZengerI've tried to update to the latest ubuntu and my system crashed07:03
ZengerIt didn't finish the install and now I can't install/update anythin07:04
Zengerthe Virtuoso crashes07:04
Zengerand when doing apt-get install it gives me this error apt-get: error while loading shared libraries: libapt-pkg.so.4.12: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory07:04
ZengerWhat can I do to finish the update , or to downgrade, reinstall is not yet an option07:06
vividhZenger: have you tried opening the update manager??07:09
Zengervividh: it doesn't open, from the menu , from the konsole I don't know the command07:09
vividhThe install can be resumed if all the packages were downloaded successfully...??07:10
vividhso u cnt open the update manager from Dash??07:10
SunTsuZenger: please don't ask in multiple channels at the same time07:11
vividhZenger: try this command: "sudo apt-get install -f". Do u get any errors??07:11
ZengerSunTsu: my system is f*cked up what do you suppose I should do besides asking in both which seem the right channels, Ubuntu is the distro , kubuntu is the wm I'm using I ask in both because I'm not sure where to ask or whom is causing the problem. Thank you.07:12
Zengervividh: tried gives apt-get: error while loading shared libraries: libapt-pkg.so.4.12: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory07:13
Zenger1 guy in ubuntu suggested reinstalling apt-get07:13
vividhZenger: well try that and search the net too....07:14
SunTsuvividh: he will, because that is what ap-get uses07:14
SunTsuZenger: er, be patient for once. You will have a hard time doing what two channels tell you at the same time07:14
SunTsuZenger: asking in multiple channels is considered rude07:15
ZengerSunTsu: I'm sorry07:15
Zengerfor now I'm trying to fix the job with a guy from the ubuntu channe07:15
ZengerI'm not going to nag you untill I do or don't do the job07:15
vividhSunTsu: hey, can u help me with this? I just installed KDE and Gnome in Ubuntu. There is a prompt asking me for a default display manager, choose from "kdm" and "lightdm". what does this mean??07:15
Zengerthank you07:15
SunTsuvividh: a "Display Manager" is what you see when logging in (*), so it's asking you which one you want kdm, which is KDE's DM, or lightdm, which is ubuntu's default DM07:17
vividhSunTsu: oh, thanks a lot..:)07:17
SunTsuZenger: I'd try reinstalling apt-get, too, using dpkg to do the work07:17
SunTsu(*) is "Simplified"07:18
SunTsuWhat the heck - my KDE task switcher covers 20% of my screen - is it default for sight impaired now?07:20
vividhIs the session saved if I log out of ubuntu? It won't disrupt any downloads if I pause 'em and resume later??07:25
SunTsuvividh: what does "logging out of ubuntu" mean? You mean: "Log out of my graphic environment"?07:26
vividhyes i want to log out and check if Gnome and KDE are installed or not..07:26
SunTsuvividh: That depends on your graphic environment, it's the one that does session management07:27
SunTsuvividh: btw. you can check that using xephyr, no need to log out - or you could open another user session07:28
vividhSunTsu: thanks...07:30
CruX|hello where can I find sources.list for 12.04 ?07:35
SunTsuCruX|: please, don't ask in multiple channels07:36
sayakbclaydoh: https://wiki.kubuntu.org/PrecisePangolin/Final/Kubuntu/Feedback is an immutable page, jfyi07:48
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illusioпривет =)08:22
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emileXXXIhello!08:48
emileXXXIlittle problem here. If someone could help me...08:48
emileXXXIi have a grey frozen screen at startup! just after grub08:49
B|tchXHow is everyone enjoying kubuntu 12.04?  I installed with 3 different medias and 3 different iso files and the desktop would never load.  It maxed out my 2 gigs of ram and 1.8 cpu08:54
B|tchXit sux08:54
B|tchXI'm back on 11.1008:54
emileXXXIi tryed to install but i have a grey screen08:55
illusioi whant solve this problem too after work )08:56
asdzxchi08:59
asdzxchow can i set default DNS servers in 12.04? /etc/resolv.conf is always ampty after reboot08:59
asdzxc*empty08:59
* B|tchX feels sorry for us09:13
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usernameHi09:50
usernametesting09:50
usernameany thing else?09:51
usernamehey guys09:55
usernamesay something09:55
usernameHi, everybody09:56
luc4Hi! I'm trying to update a kubuntu system from 11.10 to 12.04 but I get the response "No new release found". Is this a known issue?09:57
usernamehye luc4 you cannot do that!10:10
usernameformat it10:10
usernametest10:11
usernamehi max_sme10:12
usernamewelcome to kubuntu free irc10:12
jussiusername: please dont tell wrong things to people10:13
jussiluc4: there was an issue iirc10:13
luc4jussi: nevermind, I just found out that for some reason only LTS was selected. I don't know, I must have selected in the past by accident.10:15
jussiluc4: yeah, that was the issue iirc, was just trying to find documentation to explain it :D10:15
luc4jussi: thanks for the help10:17
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PasNoxi'm running kubuntu oneiric 64 bits edition with kde backport etc - kde sc 4.8.110:24
PasNoxwhy the package manager does not inform me about the new kubuntu release ?10:24
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luc4Hi! Anybody who knows why kde applications on ubuntu print all that output logs? That is quite uncomfortable.10:35
jussiluc4: output logs?10:41
luc4jussi: yes, if I run from the console, which I do quite often, I get my console full of output logs.10:42
jussiluc4: just run with a "&" after the command10:42
luc4jussi: that just detaches the process. Output is written anyway. I can get rid of the output redirecting to /dev/null. But my question is why kde applications do this and non-kde applications in ubuntu do not?10:44
jussiluc4: oh, not sure about that.10:44
BluesKajHey all10:44
xieyiI met a problem. I found a mysqld process by ps. but can't get status of the mysql process through sudo service mysql status. Neither can I login the mysql database through mysql. This problem occurred after I upgrade to 12.04. How can I fix it?10:45
georgelappieshi BluesKaj10:45
BluesKajhi georgelappies10:45
luc4jussi: I noticed this. It is uncomfortable to have to write "dolphin . &> /dev/null &" everytime instead of just "dolphin . &" like I did with gtk applications.10:45
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yofelluc4: the level of debug output can be controlled with kdebugdialog, but I don't know if that'll turn everything of10:51
PasNoxnobody know why muon package manager does not propose me the system upgrade for the new kubuntu ??10:52
luc4yofel: wow!10:53
luc4yofel: I'm checking but anyway it seems to print far less debug output! Thanks!10:53
jussiPasNox: ask luc4 :P10:53
luc4jussi: :-D10:53
jussiluc4: please explain what you did ;)10:54
luc4PasNox: check the Software Management in the KDE settings.10:54
PasNoxok, currently i jsut started the package muon manager, it'sz tru i don't tried the softaware muon manager10:55
PasNoxlet try !10:55
georgelappiesdoes kubuntu have an active forum of its own or is it only the www.ubuntuforum.org site?10:55
luc4PasNox: go to the settings clicking on the icon in the upper right corner. Then Software origins.10:55
PasNoxit's already on 'only LTS' version10:57
PasNox:/10:57
PasNoxbut no upgrade proposed10:57
luc4PasNox: exactly.10:57
PasNox?10:57
luc4PasNox: turn to normal releases.10:57
PasNoxdone10:57
luc4Then update all the sources.10:57
PasNoxnothing special appear :)10:57
PasNoxi can't10:58
luc4The notification should appear shortly.10:58
PasNoxthere is no updage button like in the package manager10:58
luc4PasNox: click close there.10:58
luc4PasNox: then click back in the upper left corner.10:58
PasNoxrestarted the app - but nothin10:58
PasNoxi should inform that i'm using muon ppa, so i'm using very recent muon10:59
PasNoxduno if it will works with that ?10:59
luc4PasNox: have you checked for new updates?10:59
luc4PasNox: have you installed all the available updates first?10:59
PasNoxyes, in the package maanger i done it, 5 minutes ago10:59
georgelappiesbasically I want to start to poll on which theme kubuntu users prefer, personally I think the default color scheme with oxygen theme rocks, I especialy like the edges around the large popup tooltips. Looks like some glossy powder coated metal plate with the paint coming of arouns the corners and edges, very cool10:59
PasNoxyes, i'm up to date10:59
luc4PasNox: check the new setting was saved.11:00
PasNoxthey are11:00
PasNoxcheck for update are setted on weekly check11:00
PasNoxi will restart package manager and click update button11:00
luc4PasNox: try from the console do-release-upgrade -m desktop -f kde -d.11:00
jussigeorgelappies: Ive seen this: http://kubuntuforums.com/11:00
luc4PasNox: shouldn't be necessary but just to see what happens.11:01
PasNoxwith the dot at end ?11:02
luc4PasNox: no, that was for the sentence.11:02
jussigeorgelappies: although I think http://kde-look.org/ is a better place for that - they have forums there also11:02
PasNoxthe upgrade windows shown and start doing it's job.11:02
georgelappiescool thanks jussi, Will look into it :)11:03
luc4PasNox: then ok, I don't know why the notification didn't arrive.11:04
jussigeorgelappies: yw11:04
PasNoxluc4: ok, no problem! thans11:04
PasNoxluc4: btw i was concerning with a wifi bug using the driver r8712u11:04
PasNoxnetwork manager say i'm connected but in reality the connection is broken11:05
PasNoxso i need often unconnect / reconnect wifi11:05
PasNoxdoes it's fixed in thi release ?11:05
luc4PasNox: I'm sorry, don't know about that driver. You'll have to hope :-)11:05
PasNoxok11:05
PasNoxfuck11:05
PasNoxanyway i can't upgrade11:05
FloodBotK1PasNox: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.11:05
PasNoxthe /var partition does not have enought space for downloading all the package ...11:06
oCeanPasNox: control your language here, please11:06
PasNoxFloodBotK1: flood me ?11:06
PasNoxoCean: ok.11:06
luc4PasNox: I had that problem as well. You'll have to find it :-)11:06
PasNoxis there anything i can change so the package are copieds in another place where i have suffisant space ?11:06
PasNoxdamn xD11:07
PasNoxlet try to temporary symlink the folder to another place :)11:07
luc4PasNox: you can also remount maybe.11:09
PasNoxluc4: do u know where are stocked the downloaded packages ?11:09
luc4PasNox: maybe /var/cache/apt11:10
PasNoxok11:10
natmani am having a problem with my laptop screen going dark when the log in page appears, normal brightness comes back when desktop comes up, problem is solved by manually pressing the increase brightness button11:11
mib12345fi need help on kubuntu 12.4 the windows no work after upgrade11:13
PasNoxsymlink create for /var/cache/apt and all seems working fine now !11:20
PasNoxthank u11:20
PasNoxjust hope i will not lost the connection when the packages download ... :)11:21
alee__test irc11:21
PasNoxtest failed.11:22
alee__hahaha11:22
alee__hi bro11:22
PasNoxalee__: u don't need to speak with me in private, u can test irc on the channel :)11:24
alee__okay11:25
xieyiI can't start mysql 5.5 in Kubuntu 12.04 through "sudo service mysql start" but can manually start it through "/usr/sbin/mysqld --defaults-file=/etc/mysql/my.cnf --datadir=/var/lib/mysql/ --socket=/var/run/mysqld/mysqld.sock". How to setup mysql to enable control of mysql by kubuntu?11:25
alee__hey, how to close private chat?11:26
BluesKajwth was he trying to do?11:34
detrixHello, I just installed Kubuntu, 12.04. Problem: hard drive was partitioned, to have root, and home directories separate. I wanted to just use the home directory that was there. my accont user name is detrix, but for some reason kde main menu, under computer shows my home directory as /home/adam    I do not know where that came from, and I can't seem to change it. I checked passwd, and it is set correctly there. I do not know what11:37
detrix<detrix> else to do11:37
Durionok so i'm trying to run wizard101 on my comuter and it says i need 6 GB of free space. the game runs but is very laggy. in the kinfo center it says i have 992 mib total physical memory. i have a 149.1 GB hard drive and in the partition manager it says i have 57.84GB unallocated memory. is ther something that i can do to fix the problem?11:56
ihipopkde in ubuntu 12.04 LTS is so damn Good~11:59
Durionok so i'm trying to run wizard101 on my comuter and it says i need 6 GB of free space. the game runs but is very laggy. in the kinfo center it says i have 992 mib total physical memory. i have a 149.1 GB hard drive and in the partition manager it says i have 57.84GB unallocated memory. is ther something that i can do to fix the problem?12:06
realsilverscreenhi all. i downloaded kubuntu 1204 64bit and 32bit. both hang on first boot after fresh install (but i can move mouse). my sys spec: intel i7 975, nvidia gtx580, ocz ssd, 6gb ram.12:12
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luke_66hi everyone12:45
luke_66i'm having problems with 12.04 and nvidia proprietary drivers: i've removed nouveau driver by apt-get --purge remove xserver-xorg-video-nouveau, then i reinstalled nvidia drivers by apt-get install nvidia-current. then i generated xorg.conf by nvidia-xconfig, but restarting X i got only a session on which i can't go over 640x480px (and Additional Drivers from System menu seems to say that there's no proprietary driver i12:51
luke_66n use). what i can do?12:51
BluesKajluke_66, did you stop kdm and install the driver at the tty ?12:52
luke_66BluesKaj, no, but i've tryed to reboot and i got the same result12:53
BluesKajluke_66, here's a procedure that works  http://paste.ubuntu.com/952352/ ..you have to stop kdm in order to install nvidia-current or any other graphics driver12:55
luke_66BluesKaj, tnx i'll give it a try12:56
luke_66BluesKaj, so this is exactly what i've done several times. the difference seems to be here there's no X, only command line. Maybe it influence the correct xorg.conf generation12:58
BluesKajluke_66, did you stop kdem before installing at the tty , that's important. the driver will appear to install but fails if kdm is running12:59
BluesKajerr kdm12:59
luke_66ok13:00
luke_66tnx13:00
systemclientWhere did the column view in Dolphin go?13:05
luke_66BluesKaj, i've tried your solution but i got the same result: max screen resolution 640x480. the problem seems to be my laptop: Dell XPS l502x13:17
BluesKajhave you checked in kmenu>settings>nvidia server settings , luke_6613:18
luke_66it say 'You do not appear to be using the NVIDIA X driver.  Please edit your X configuration file (just run `nvidia-xconfig` as root), and restart the X server.'13:20
BluesKajsystemclient, I think column view was dropped in 12.0413:22
systemclientBluesKaj: awesome … that should be in the release notes …13:22
systemclientand is there an easy way to get rid of that nasty plymouth screen?13:23
BluesKajluke_66, drop to a tty , then stopx , sudo nvidia-xconfig , then startx13:24
yofelsomeone tell him to check in /var/log/Xorg.0.log which driver is actually being used when he comes back13:25
BluesKajyofel, I suspect he was try to install the driver with both kdm and X running , assuming stopping kdm stops X as well13:35
yofelit does, switching from nouveau to nvidia requires a reboot though13:36
BluesKajyes . I guess I should have mentioned that , but I don't recall rebooting to make it work13:38
Bestiomannarohi all13:42
hopedhi14:07
hopedKDE can't mount USB device14:08
hopedwhat is the problem ? help me please?14:08
BluesKajhoped, what kind of USB device ?14:09
hopedBluesKaj, I was attached Pendrive , Mobile Memory card14:10
BluesKajit doesn't show in dolphin places ?14:11
hopedI have tried to open in konqueror , I see it attached but when i clicked it does not mount ....14:13
BluesKajhoped, try dolphin14:16
hopedBluesKaj, Ah it can't mount any other Partition too .... Do i need to root? I tried with dolphin14:18
BluesKajhoped, try the system tray , notifications14:20
hopedYeah tried....from the Panel14:21
hopedBluesKaj, It worked after logged in as root14:22
BluesKajkdesudo dolphin ?14:22
hopedNow working Konqu and dolphin both14:23
BluesKajthen you better set your permissions up in user management14:24
hopedPerhaps user permission?14:24
hopedWhich is the user management  GUI tool ? i am confused with new KDE14:27
georgelappieshoped, kuser still works for me14:29
georgelappiesalthough it might be better using "User manager" in system settings14:31
BluesKajhoped, kmenu>computer>systemsettings>user management14:32
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Guest66328anyone update to 12.04 yet14:47
hopedme ubuntu 120414:47
* DorkVader is14:50
DorkVader12.04 is the only way to fly14:50
garou!help14:51
ubottuPlease don't ask to ask a question, simply ask the question (all on ONE line and in the channel, so that others can read and follow it easily). If anyone knows the answer they will most likely reply. :-) See also !patience14:51
garouHi, who can I re-run the KGpg Assistent again? sudo dpkg-reconfigure kgpg don't works14:51
garouI tried sudo apt-get purge kgpg but this is a huge problem. My apt-get was removed and didn't work, but I installed manually now and it works. But, what I can do about the KGpg?14:52
BalinaresHi, friends. I'm not getting the 'new release' notification even after updating, upgrading and rebooting, and trying different mirrors. Are some mirrors behind?14:54
BluesKajgarou, sudo apt-get install kgpg14:54
garouBlue, it was installed but the option generate key pair fails14:55
BluesKajBalinares, did you run an upgrade?14:55
BalinaresBluesKaj: Yup.14:55
BalinaresBTW: I'm on 11.10.14:55
garouand I think is because I interrupted the assistant before14:55
BluesKajBalinares, some repos are behind , sudo do-release-upgrade -d worked for some ppl today14:56
BalinaresBluesKaj: Oh, so it's a known issue then. NP, then, there's no hurry; I just wanted to make sure there was not a problem with my setup. Thanks. :)14:57
BluesKajBalinares, some update managers aren't notifying properly as well , also run a dist-upgrade just to make sure14:58
BalinaresBluesKaj: Hmm... Nope, didn't change anything.14:59
BluesKajBalinares, what about sudo do-release-upgrade -d , does it give you the option to upgrade to 12.0415:01
BalinaresBluesKaj: Nope, "No new release found".15:01
garouI had installed the kgpg again, and it "works" but appears the follow error when try to generate a key par:  gpg: -:2: invalid algorithm , gpg: -:9: missing colon15:01
BluesKajBalinares, what about sudo do-release-upgrade15:02
BalinaresBluesKaj: Same result.15:02
BluesKajhmm, not good15:02
garouI selectioned 1024 for the size key and choose the algorithm to DSA & El-Gamal15:03
BalinaresBluesKaj: Must be a laggy mirror, then. I imagine they're still all receiving a severe pounding.15:03
BluesKajopen the update manager and make sure the notification is set  to normal15:03
BalinaresThat's muon-updater, right?15:04
BluesKajyes15:05
BalinaresNotifications are activated, yes. But I imagine that if even aptitude doesn't reprort anything to update then it can't be muon's fault.15:05
BluesKajBalinares, laggy mirrors or not, you should still receive a notifier that a new release is available15:05
BalinaresAh, really? Well, darn.15:06
BluesKajare you using aptitude ?15:06
BalinaresYup.15:06
BalinaresErr, BRB. (Baby crying.)15:06
BluesKajit's no longer supported , use apt-get ...some of the dependencies still need to be updated upgrade I bet , use apt-get to do so15:07
BluesKajBalinares,^15:07
PasNoxI have upgraded my oneiric now nepomuk is no longer working - missing virtuoso or related stuff ...15:10
BalinaresBack.15:12
BluesKajBalinares, read my post above15:12
BalinaresI saw it, thanks. :)15:12
PasNoxand why the hell the 64bits edition install so much i386 packages ? xD15:12
PasNoxif i want i386 os i download the i386 version ... :/15:13
BalinaresAaand... Darn. Nope, same thing.15:13
BluesKajPasNox, thai isn't the place to complain ..try #'kubuntu-devel15:13
PasNoxBluesKaj: it's at all not related to devel, but related to packaging15:14
BluesKajBalinares, did you use apt-get15:14
PasNoxno ?15:14
BalinaresBluesKaj: Yes.15:14
BalinaresI didn't know there was a problem with aptitude. :/15:14
BluesKajBalinares, also run apt-get dist-upgarde again15:15
BluesKajerr upgrade15:15
BalinaresYes, I did. Same thing.15:15
BluesKajbummer15:16
BalinaresCould one of the PPA I've installed messed with the release recognition system?15:16
georgelappiesif you have a dolphin window open and it is at the bottom of the screen and you click on the spanner icon "Configure and control dolphin" the menu list that comes up doesn't allow you to scroll to it's top. You have to move the dolphin window higher up in the screen bfore clicking on it. Is this a known bug?15:16
PasNoxok it seem the muon distrib updater crashed before the end of the upgrade15:17
garouI had fixed. Needed change a parameter in the settings to gpg2 instead gpg thx.15:18
PasNoxthe upgrade fails, sudo apt-get dist-upgrade don't want to continue, sudo dpkg --configure a fails to fix the pending updates15:19
PasNoxwhat i do now ?15:19
PasNoxformat and change distrib ? each major upgrade is same problems :'(15:19
BalinaresBluesKaj: Can I 'reset' my sources.list and associated PPAs? This box has seen so many releases year after year, cruft has got to have accumulated...15:20
BluesKajBalinares, it's possible that will help , unno for sure15:22
BalinaresAaaand... no luck.15:23
BalinaresWell, damn.15:23
BluesKajBalinares, I haven't used muon in the last few releases , I usually purge it and install synaptic ...a notifier is totally unecessary in my case and I haven't encountered any blocked releases due to bugs15:26
BalinaresBluesKaj: Oh, I don't usually use muon either. I just want some way to upgrade. :/15:26
SentynelBalinares: you might have checked this already, but try opening the software sources dialogue, going to the updates tab, and ensuring "release upgrade" is set to "normal releases"15:29
Sentynelmine had reset itself to LTS only for some reason and was refusing to update15:29
Sentynelas soon as I set it to normal releases, do-release-upgrade worked properly15:29
BalinaresSentynel: I did check, thanks. It had indeed reset to LTS, I changed it back, it didn't correct the problem.15:29
BalinaresAnd WAIT.15:30
BalinaresI think we have success.15:30
BalinaresI just purged muon* and tried do-release-upgrade again.15:30
BalinaresIt now seems to be working.15:30
BluesKajBalinares, I'm not allowed to advise ppl to uninstall packages or even purge them ...but you did the right thing15:30
BluesKaj:)15:31
Balinares:D15:31
BluesKajthis problem has become quite large here the last 2 days and it's getting rather tiresome for me at least15:32
BalinaresI had no idea muon was obsolete. I don't think I know what the 'official' package management GUI for Kubuntu is, these days.15:32
Belial`is anyone here using icontasks? when i click on an icon that's already open to minimize the app, once it minimizes, the app immediately shows back up on screen. how do i prevent this from happening?15:32
Belial`using kubuntu 12.0415:32
BluesKajmuon isn't obsolete , it's just buggy15:33
PasNoxmuon is not bugguy, it's kubuntu15:33
PasNoxxD15:33
BalinaresSo the correct one is Synaptic, now, right?15:33
BluesKajPasNox, i disagree , read above15:33
PasNoxi now understand why canonical stopped kubuntu investissement, it's useless15:33
PasNoxalways buggy, always major upgrade problems15:34
johnvelasquezi need help15:34
BluesKajPasNox, go troll some where else please15:34
PasNoxalways problems15:34
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PasNoxit's not troll, it's jsut verity15:34
PasNoxstarted the upgrade tool now i got broken os.15:34
DorkVadersorry to jump in on the conversation, is muon not a "recommended" package management tool then?  Should I just stick with aptitude?15:34
BalinaresSometimes I wish there was a way to automatically remove packages that were only installed because the distro thought it was a good idea back then.15:34
PasNoxsure i will repair it, but i choose kubuntu for easy and no problem i got the contrary :/15:35
BluesKajDorkVader, aptitude is longer supported , use apt-get apper or syanaptic15:35
BalinaresPasNox: Never seen a Linux distro that always upgraded without problems. If you find one, please let me know. :/15:35
PasNoxhehe15:36
PasNoxkindly correct but...15:36
BluesKajvirtuoso has become a pita and kmail is still segfaulting ..those are some of my "issues"15:38
BalinaresBluesKaj: A question about apt-get. I switched to aptitude several years ago because back then, it automatically marked dependencies as autoinstalled, and apt-get didn't. (Also its dependency solver worked better.) Did apt-get since catch up?15:38
BalinaresIf it did I'll just do away with aptitude.15:38
DorkVaderBluesKaj: ah, no aptitude, ok, that is good to know.  synaptic is a gtk app?15:38
BluesKajyes and surpassed aptitude in terms of handling dependencies as well15:38
BalinaresWell, that's GOOD to know. So long, aptitude.15:39
BluesKajyes , but what a few gtk libs ...we can liuve with it since it's so superior IMO15:39
BluesKajwhat's a few gtl libs15:40
BluesKajanyway muon is supposedly fixed after the 12.04 upgrade ...but I'll wait and see15:41
DorkVader any suggestions as to what I should install to test my opengl/nvidia gpu?  It is a GT240 w/512 MB ram... I would like to give it a stress test to make sure that the drivers are working properly15:41
DorkVaderBluesKaj: should I uninstall aptitude then as well?15:41
BluesKajDorkVader, that's your call15:42
BalinaresBluesKaj: More apt-get questions. What would the equivalent of "aptitude why <package>" be?15:43
BluesKajBalinares, dunno , never used it15:43
BalinaresIt's a command that tells you why a package is on the system (what depends on it, basically).15:44
anathema_hi i have upgraded to 12.04 and i have this erron on startup: "the application KnetAttach has closed unexpectedly"15:46
BalinaresOk, made some room, upgrade started. Thank you, BluesKaj, you've been very helpful!!15:51
BluesKajapt-cache depends <package_name> ,Balinares,15:51
BalinaresDid I say 'very helpful'? I meant 'AWESOMELY helpful'. :)15:52
DorkVaderI am finding konverssation difficult to read15:52
BalinaresOk, upgrade in progress. I'll be going, now. Thanks again, take care!15:52
RexHaviKhow can i get the 12.04 kde updates on 11.10 before they hit 'backports'??15:54
RexHaviKor is it a waste since kde 4.8 is at current ?15:55
BluesKajRexHaviK, its still 4.8.216:00
RexHaviKBluesKaj, got you, thnks16:02
DorkVaderhas anyone here ever played with setting the QT rendering engine between raster/opengl?16:11
RexHaviKhas kde 4.8 been know to have a bug in the power-management setting 'power-button set to suspend' but shuts down instead?16:35
RexHaviKsetting and re-setting via gui does not change it, hit power button and it shuts down, regarless of the actual set16:37
xskydevilxDoes anyone know how to get the Ubuntu cursors in Kubuntu?16:41
DorkVaderyo, how do people usually install the QT SDK in kubuntu?  with a deb?  or download from nokia directly?16:57
georgelappiesDorkVader: you referring to the complete SDK and not just QtCreator?16:59
DorkVaderthat is correct16:59
georgelappiesI install the complete SDK only in my home directory under ~/opt17:02
DorkVaderyeah, that is probably what I will do17:02
georgelappiesand it is the download from nokia17:03
WatcherCan someone tell me why some video just don't play on Firefox but will play on Chrome? Other videos play fine on Firefox.17:13
PasNoxwhich command i should run to remove all dummy transitional packages please ?17:17
DorkVadershould I be hesitant to use kde wallet?17:23
georgelappiesDorkVader: What do you mean? security wise?17:28
DorkVaderyeah17:29
DorkVaderit just seems scary to me17:29
mozzdroidis there a way to turn off the 12.04LTS update in kubuntu 11?17:34
mozzdroid11.10 Apper program17:34
mozzdroidwould updating actually be safe to perform?17:35
EvilResistancemozzdroid, you could just ignore upgrade notices.17:36
EvilResistanceand whenever you upgrade anything in place, you run the risk of things dying17:36
EvilResistance(or breaking)17:36
georgelappiesDorkVader: well I never had an issue with itso far :)17:38
mozzdroidya17:38
mozzdroidwonderin17:38
mozzdroidis there a way to turn it off to avoid it17:39
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z3r0d3rpanyone know why my 11.10 machine isn't seeing the release upgrade?17:40
PasNoxmozzdroid: it was not for me, i lost all my day .17:41
mozzdroidive installed kubuntu 11.10 on a friends pc months ago17:41
mozzdroiddont want him to break the install17:41
mozzdroidhe says the update keeps comming up17:42
PasNoxis there a way to remove transitional / i386 package on a 64bit kubuntu ?17:42
PasNoxhe can ignore it, and remove notification from sources list manager17:42
z3r0d3rpmozzdroid: I can't get my computer to see the update17:42
z3r0d3rpalso you can get it to stop asking by changing the update settings17:42
mozzdroidlist manager?17:42
mozzdroidhow do i access that17:42
z3r0d3rpmuon package manager > preferences > show upgrades - never17:43
mozzdroidit be cool just to turn that one OFF17:43
z3r0d3rp*sho release upgrades17:43
mozzdroidmuon ok17:43
z3r0d3rpmy problem is the opposite17:43
z3r0d3rpmy computer won't see the update17:43
z3r0d3rpand I want to upgrade17:43
mozzdroidapper will stop displaying also after that?17:44
mozzdroidand will he continue with 11.10 updates?17:44
PasNoxz3r0d3rp: i did not see the notice too, i had to run a command given by someone here17:45
mozzdroidlol17:45
z3r0d3rpyou don't happen to know what it was?17:45
mozzdroidwish he wasnt seeing it17:45
PasNoxlet me check the console log17:45
z3r0d3rpI tried sudo do-release-upgrade17:45
z3r0d3rpbut it doesn't see it17:45
PasNoxdo-release-upgrade -m desktop -f kde -d17:45
mozzdroidit could and probly will break things17:45
z3r0d3rpnaw it's a new install17:46
z3r0d3rpless than a week old17:46
PasNoxgood luck.17:46
mozzdroidif its new install id just download latest iso17:46
PasNoxthe installer crashed in the middle of the process and leave me alon ;)17:46
PasNoxi lsot all my day ;)17:46
z3r0d3rpwell I have about 6 hours of configurations in17:46
mozzdroidooh darn17:47
z3r0d3rpso I don't want to do those all over again17:47
PasNoxmy guess is if u jsut installed it17:47
PasNoxdl the last iso and format / install17:48
PasNoxwill be a lto quicker than network upgrade17:48
PasNoxwhich is somewhat buggy17:48
z3r0d3rpI don't want to lose my hours and hours of configurations17:48
PasNoxah17:48
PasNoxthen dunno ;)17:48
z3r0d3rpalso I installed on an encrypted lvm17:49
z3r0d3rpand upgrade isn't available on the alternate cd17:49
DorkVaderyo, so how do I get that folder square on the desktop again?  I closed it18:01
Peace-DorkVader: just right click on desktop18:05
Peace-DorkVader: add widgets18:05
Peace-folder view18:05
DorkVadera'ight, thanks18:06
DorkVadercan you copy shortcuts to applications in this desktop folder?18:09
Peace-DorkVader: ?18:10
DorkVaderah, you can make links to applications from within Dolphin, I got it now18:10
Peace-DorkVader: just drag and drop18:10
Peace-?18:11
DorkVaderah, thanks18:13
sto4aluck_why my CPU is so hard loaded if I use  firefox or chromium, can I do something18:16
DorkVaderAnyone know of a KDE hg/mercurial tool with some level of dolphin integration?18:17
sto4aluck_why my CPU is so hard loaded if I use firefox or chromium, can I do something? It goes up to 98-99%!!!18:18
Peace-DorkVader: sure18:18
Peace-DorkVader: dolphin can handle mercurial installin stuff18:18
DorkVaderPeace-: Cool.  So one would clone the repository from the command line first?18:19
Peace-DorkVader: i use git for example here http://simplest-image-hosting.net/png-0-w1437518:19
Peace-mm let me check18:19
Peace-DorkVader: should be this kdesdk-dolphin-plugins18:20
Peace-DorkVader: yes it is18:20
Peace-ù18:20
DorkVaderPeace-: Cool, thanks, installing that package now18:21
DorkVadersto4aluck_: probably a plugin gone haywire...18:21
sto4aluck_DorkVader: Can you give me an advise what to do, please?18:23
DorkVadersto4aluck_: no idea.  make sure you are running the latest chrome adn firefoxes?  disable any plugins you have.  Does the usage shootup right when you launch the browsers?  or only when you go to specific sites?18:23
sto4aluck_DorkVader: yeah, it goes high up to 98-99% as soon as I load firefox or chromium18:24
DorkVadersto4aluck_: uninstall and re-install perhaps?18:25
sto4aluck_DorkVader: I am using flash-plugin 1118:25
DorkVadersto4aluck_: make sure you have the latest versions18:25
sto4aluck_DorkVader: what to reinstall!?! the whole system or the browsers?18:26
DorkVadersto4aluck_: browsers18:26
DorkVadersto4aluck_: or try other things first... disable plugins, update, look at the output of the console when you run them, etc18:27
Peace-sto4aluck_: system monitor18:27
Peace-sto4aluck_: see if the plugin is the bastard18:27
sto4aluck_DorkVader: OK, thanks! See you soon after I do it18:28
sto4aluck_DorkVader: I alredy checked it is the bastard :D18:28
Peace-plugin container?18:29
sto4aluck_DorkVader: What about if I install through the flash plugin installer?18:29
DorkVaderI dunno, try it18:30
sto4aluck_When I kill the pluging prices it goes to 4-6%18:30
sto4aluck_DorkVader: It is not only that problem it loads my CPU  too if I play VLC18:31
Peace-sto4aluck_: try this ffplay yourvideo18:32
sto4aluck_DorkVader: May be wrong pluggings18:32
sto4aluck_Peace-: Thanks, wait to call you soon18:32
Peace-disable everyplugin18:32
sto4aluck_Peace-: If I disable all plugings ther won't be a video and sound18:34
sto4aluck_I need the plugings but a light onesnot to load my CPU so hard18:34
z3r0d3rpprotip: adobe removed gpu support in the latest flash plugin18:36
z3r0d3rptry installing an older version and enabling gpu support18:36
sto4aluck_z3r0d3rp: what exactly have to do?18:37
z3r0d3rpIt's dangerous to go out alone... take this18:38
z3r0d3rphttps://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/addon/flash-aid/18:38
z3r0d3rpthis will let you find and install different versions of flash18:39
z3r0d3rpreally helps if you have a 64 bit system18:39
sto4aluck_z3r0d3rp: no I am on 32bit, thanks, let me check it18:41
z3r0d3rpanother thing sto4aluck_18:42
z3r0d3rpmake sure you run jockey-gtk and install graphic drivers18:42
z3r0d3rpif you haven't, that could be why your cpu is being worked hard18:42
garouPlease help. Kleopatra,KMail, GPG, Signing messages.  I'm trying sign messages with Cleopatra or Kmail but not working.18:43
garouLooks like there is a problem relationated with gpg-agent and pinentry/pinentry-qt4. I searched several pages but not solved yet. I appreciate help. Thx.18:43
z3r0d3rpalt - F2  type jockey18:43
sto4aluck_z3r0d3rp: thanks!18:43
sto4aluck_z3r0d3rp: it wasn't installed, now I'll check it out18:45
garouPlease help. Kleopatra,KMail, GPG, Signing messages. I'm trying sign messages with Cleopatra or Kmail but not working.18:51
garouLooks like there is a problem relationated with gpg-agent and pinentry/pinentry-qt4. I searched several pages but not solved yet. I appreciate help. Thx.18:51
garouThe error says, bad passfrase18:51
sto4aluck_z3r0d3rp: No proprietary drivers in use, what to do?18:56
DorkVaderYo, I have disabled the +/- selection icons in dolphin.  how do I select files by clicking them without opening them?19:04
BluesKajDorkVader, right click19:09
JontheEchidnactrl + click19:09
DorkVaderah , I see, thanks19:09
DorkVaderhow does one get the hardware temperature monitor widget to work?  I am assuming some sort of sensor package must be installed?19:10
BluesKajyour assumption is correct19:10
DorkVaderit appears to be lm-sensors package.  I've installed it, does it require a reboot or anything?  the hardware temp is not showing any sensors19:11
qbitlm-sensors has a config script iirc called sensors-detect, when you run that I believe it configs it and pokes in the module19:15
qbitnot sure if reboot is actually required or not19:16
DorkVaderqbit: ok, thanks... haven't been able to get it, goign to try a reboot19:22
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maks_ух них19:58
maks_ппц народу19:59
Roeyhey all20:02
Roeywacom intuos5 doesn't work out of the box with Pangolin??20:02
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hanasakion a 64bit install why would this url show in aptitude update? Hit http://mirrors.cs.wmich.edu precise-updates/main i386 Packages20:27
JontheEchidna32-bit packages can now be installed on 64-bit machines20:30
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shallwehi guys20:30
shallwesomeone here have problem with yahoo mail account in kontact?20:31
shallwei got error on send mail20:31
shallwe"From address not verified"20:31
shallwebut i can receive all20:32
chelopapohola20:40
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DorkVaderDoes anyone else find kmail pretty much unusable?21:07
BluesKajDorkVader, it's working here with a few issues21:08
DorkVaderI am fighting with it to display emails21:10
BluesKajthe delete action doesn't work and transfers cause a segfault21:10
hanasakiJontheEchidna:  thanks ... how did that come about?  I would prefer to stick to only 64 bits21:11
JontheEchidnasome packages are 32-bit only21:11
BluesKajarch support is supposed work in the interim I guess21:13
JontheEchidnaskype is a good example21:14
BluesKajJontheEchidna, well, skype maybe a dying app , MS bought the company and ppl wonder how long linux support going to last21:16
JontheEchidnait's not the only one21:16
JontheEchidnazsnes is another21:16
DorkVader isn't skype for linux just wrapped up in wine?  or was that a different app I am thinking of21:16
JontheEchidnanope, Skype's a native Qt app in linux21:16
JontheEchidnaGoogle was shipping some app wrapped in wine, but I forget which21:17
BluesKajactually google talk works quite well from all reports. I haven't used it myself21:19
BluesKajJontheEchidna, all versions of skype including the static one ?21:21
JontheEchidnaI don't know what the static version is21:21
JontheEchidnabut any 64-bit package that skype's shipped has included the 32-bit version of skype21:22
BluesKajso how does linux manage to port to a qt version without consent from MS?21:23
DorkVaderJontheEchidna: ah, yes, I think I was confused.. google wraps picasa in wine for linux, but I think they no longer distribute it anymore21:24
JontheEchidnayeah21:24
JontheEchidnapicasa, that was it21:24
ybitwhee!21:32
ybitupgraded last night21:32
ybitno wireless, woohoo! :P21:32
* ybit works on remedying the situation21:32
ybitsomethign to do with this wireless card, they always present problems21:33
ybits/they/it21:33
BluesKajybit,which wifi card?21:38
ybitsolution: http://askubuntu.com/questions/126772/wireless-is-not-getting-connected-on-starting-12-0421:40
ybitBluesKaj: Broadcom Corporation BCM4313 802.11b/g/n Wireless LAN Controller (rev 01)21:41
BluesKajybit, do you need the b43 fwcutter ..thought that driver was out of date21:45
ybitBluesKaj: previously the remedy for none of the distro picking up the wifi card was to echo "blacklist acer_wmi" >> /etc/modprobe.d/blacklist.conf21:46
ybitthe solution listed on askubuntu works though21:46
ybits/distro/distros21:47
BluesKajok good to know21:47
ybityep, stored in case any other poor soul as broadcom :)21:47
BluesKajusually bcm43 or some such module works21:48
ybitnoted21:49
BluesKajI have a 4 yr old acer laptop (which is currently at my daughter's place) which uses that driver ...had to wicd on 9.04 , but on 9.10 the kernel module worked with NM21:52
BluesKajshe since put W7 on it , but i plan to get it back this summer21:53
BluesKajor else I'll be looking at an elcheapo laptop of some sort for my outdoor and travel computing21:55
BluesKajBBL22:01
JMichael|worki am trying to remotely upgrade a machine to precise right now, and am now getting this error:    Error org.freedesktop.DBus.Error.Spawn.PermissionsInvalid: The permission of the setuid helper is not correct22:14
JMichael|workany suggestions?22:15
NoOovai install an kde. after reboot i has panel at bottom of screen, but now after one more reboot i gas an top panel22:20
NoOovawhy>22:20
NoOovahow to enable default interface22:21
z3r0d3rpopen panel edit mode and drag it back down22:22
z3r0d3rpthen lock widgets22:22
z3r0d3rpchances are that you have desktop wrapping and the panel got bumbed down22:23
NoOovai think that this is something "notebook" mode22:23
DorkVaderanyone rocking gcc 4.7 with kubuntu?22:23
z3r0d3rpyes22:23
z3r0d3rpI am22:23
NoOovaand i only need to enable default mode?22:23
DorkVaderz3r0d3rp: yeah? did you install gcc 4.7 from the packages?22:23
z3r0d3rpI have never set notebook mode so I have no idea22:23
z3r0d3rp4.7 is the new default right?22:24
z3r0d3rpif so then yes22:24
JMichael|workif anyone has a clue about the dbus / setuid helper errors i am getting, it would be much appreciated.22:25
DorkVaderz3r0d3rp: gcc 4.6 was installed by default for me22:26
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z3r0d3rplooks like default is 4.4.6.322:26
EvilResistance!info gcc precise22:26
ubottugcc (source: gcc-defaults (1.112ubuntu5)): GNU C compiler. In component main, is optional. Version 4:4.6.3-1ubuntu5 (precise), package size 4 kB, installed size 41 kB22:26
z3r0d3rpwith 4.5 and 4.6 plugins22:26
z3r0d3rponly thing I've built with it so far is oxygen-transparent22:27
z3r0d3rpalthough I will be monkeying around to get reaver working later22:28
z3r0d3rp!info aircrack-ng precise22:29
ubottuPackage aircrack-ng does not exist in precise22:30
z3r0d3rpanyone else get an initramfs-tools error during upgrade?22:31
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z3r0d3rpupdate-initramfs -u ????????22:33
DorkVaderhm.... I'd like to use gcc4.722:34
fabrizioirc.darksin.it22:34
z3r0d3rpDorkVader you should use the gcc version specified by the developer22:34
z3r0d3rpotherwise stuff gets borked22:34
JMichael|workok, the setuid helper errors i was getting seem to have *possibly* disappeared, after logging out, and back in again22:34
DorkVaderpffff22:34
DorkVaderI am the developer22:35
z3r0d3rpdevelopers developers developers22:36
ultrixxwhat?a phone for 500$?22:37
z3r0d3rpsounds like an iPhone22:37
JMichael|workdevelopers shmevelopers22:38
z3r0d3rpthere should be a notice to people to run update-initramfs -u after upgrade22:38
z3r0d3rpseems like lots of distribution upgrades are failing22:39
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DorkVaderso how to use synaptic to udpate all packages on my system?22:53
z3r0d3rpuse muon22:54
DorkVaderI thought muon was not recommended?22:54
Belial`DorkVader: muon is the default software manager.23:00
DorkVaderok, I was told it was buggy and not for production use?23:00
DorkVaderI am confused now, is meta = the windows key now, and alt=alt?  I thought meta=alt in X before?23:01
Steve132Where are the most current md5 hashes?  The ones at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UbuntuHashes don't seem to be current23:02
Steve132I've downloaded 3 versions of kubuntu twice each and can't seem to get a matching checksum23:02
lenWhat is the proper way to upgrade from Kubuntu 10.04 to 12.04.  The instructions given on the web page are wrong.  They say kpackage kit will offer up the upgrade just by opening it, but I that doesn't work because LTS to LTS upgrades are not offered automatically until the first point release which is 3 months from now.23:08
lenI know you can do a generic do-release-upgrade -d but  what is the kubuntu specific way?23:09
DorkVaderwow... always amazing to me how graceful linux is under CPU load.. running 8 instances of cpuburn (burnP6), streaming music with amarok,  surfing the web, full  KDE eye candy effects... nothing seems affected23:15
Steve132Does the DVD make any difference over the CD iso?23:16
Steve132I'm installing via usb key anyway, so space doesn't really matter23:17
Steve132I assumed the DVD would have more software23:17
Steve132but the page says the only difference is the language support23:17
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hanasakiBluesKaj:  is there a good alternative to skype  that works in kde+gnome? with a gateway to the POTS telephones ?  and works with things like asterisk or gvoice as a gateway?23:37
hanasakihmm alt tab has stopped working in the kde precise update.......23:39
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z3r0d3rpI did the update on my desktop... started using 100% cpu all the time.... just reinstalled clean23:49
BlouBlouz3r0d3rp: you maybe had to reinstall the graphic drivers23:52
z3r0d3rpthey were intel drivers23:52
z3r0d3rpshouldn't have had to23:52

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