[00:00] penalizacja: not by default, but you can install kde-telepathy if you want [00:00] ok thanks [00:01] just got confused with release nites :) [00:01] ok logging out and back in, the fonts are better, not super but better [00:02] Hi, i got a big big problem, i update to Kubuntu 12.04 and i don't see the close, minimize, restore button on my windows, any idea how can i fix it :S [00:03] can one mount .iso images from within dolphin? [00:11] ple [00:11] please help, i update to Kubuntu 12.04 and i don't see the close, minimize, restore button on my windows, any idea how can i fix it :S [00:12] and the windows always stay on top [00:12] wooohoo just after installing 12.04 [00:12] yes [00:12] should muon auto inform me of any updates? [00:12] it happend to you too? [00:12] or do i need to run it a first time? [00:14] yo, can I add a specific program to klicker? or that alt+f2 launcher? It is a program I installed from a CD and want to be able to launch quickly [00:14] Hi, I installed Thunderbird on Kubuntu 12.04 LTS , and the systray 'message indicator' doesn't display a little 'envelop/letter' icon ( filled in green when message received ) as in my previous install of Kubuntu 11.10 . Is it known ? [00:16] DorkVader: right-click on 'K' menu > Edit application ; set a new item [00:17] DorkVader: you will make it a menu item. Able to be favorited [00:19] hi, i can't get to activate vpn connections using the network manager applet is anyone having similar problems? [00:21] it complains about the driver not being there [00:21] weirdly enough vpnc on it self works [00:29] deevad: great, thanks! [00:30] :) [00:39] Hello everyone! I've just updated to 12.04, i have an nvidia card with current driver from their site. OpenGL composite freezes my screen, any help please? [00:40] XRender works with minimal effects, but when i try to use the opengl, it freezes, tells to restore previous config, and kwin complains about not being able to load blur wobbly and some others [00:41] Hello, I just installed Kubuntu, 12.04. Problem: hard drive was partitioned, to have root, and home directories separate. I wanted to just use the home directory that was there. my accont user name is detrix, but for some reason kde main menu, under computer shows my home directory as /home/adam I do not know where that came from, and I can't seem to change it. I checked passwd, and it is set correctly there. I do not know what [00:41] else to do. [00:46] detrix: check on #ubuntu they might be able to help === mybitcoin is now known as ybit [00:49] so, I hate to be a stickler for details, but is there a way to make the fonts look a bit better? maybe I am just used to windows, but things seem a bit off to me [00:50] DorkVader: did u try cleantype? [00:50] what is this cleantype you speak of? [00:50] antialising [00:50] this is an option you can enable then? [00:50] yeah [00:51] cleartype is just a Microsoft-ism for subpixel font anti-aliasing [00:51] in which system settings thing? [00:51] if that's what you were referring to.... [00:51] u go to the panel settings -> application appearence -> fonts [00:51] it is the same effect [00:51] smoother fonts [00:52] ok, it was set to "System Settigns", I'm not sure if it was set [00:52] hinting style medium, use sub-pixel rendering "RGB", thats it? [00:52] should be [00:52] try that to your likes [00:52] you need to restart all applications that are running for it to take effect though [00:53] yeah, ok [00:54] bugs in certain applications or video drivers can cause bizarre side effects, so I believe the KDE upstream default is disabled unless application requests it [00:55] if you start seeing font rendering problems, then you might want to turn it back off :) [00:55] ah, ok, sounds good [00:55] is there a quick way to do a shutdown of KDE, relogin and launch all the apps again? [00:56] end session I guess is what I want [00:56] just log out and log back in and it should be in effect globally [01:00] whats this? KWin::EffectsHandlerImpl::loadEffect: EffectsHandler::loadEffect : Effect "kwin4_effect_blur" is not support [01:01] Just rebooted into 12.04, and it looks like DNS resolution isn't working. Anybody else having the same problem? [01:01] DaemonFC, isis___: great, thanks for the help there [01:01] your video driver doesn't support that effect or loading it will cause kwin to become unstable due to your video driver [01:02] DorkVader: ur welcome [01:02] ditto [01:03] isis___: kwin probes for video adapter model and driver loaded and will blacklist plugins or choose a backend accordingly. Different drivers obviously have their own bugs, missing features, etc. [01:05] if you're using a KDE release older than 4.8.x, then the Blur effect is outrageously computationally expensive and you might consider disabling it anyway, jsut for performance reasons [01:06] im running 4.8.2 [01:06] it is not just the blur [01:06] what's your graphics adapter and driver? [01:06] My virtual machines that are still on 11.10 seem to work fine, so I'm pretty sure it's a problem with something that changed with the 12.04 upgrade [01:07] are you installing this in a virtual machine? make sure you have 2D/3D acceleration enabled, and enough GPU memory allocated [01:07] Moin Leute [01:08] Enable PAE/NX, Enable IO APIC [01:08] Wie kann ich einen lokaler Internetradio unter Kubuntu sharen? [01:08] i have a nvidia , the current driver from their site, uninstalled the nouveau [01:08] also so wie eine .pls unter ampache, bloss ohne ampache ;) === joshua is now known as Guest433 [01:09] opengl freezes, glxgears shows okay [01:10] sry EN: how can I share a local internet radio [01:10] ? [01:10] glxgears isn't really complicated, the only thing it's good for is ensuring that you have some sort of hardware acceleration available for OpenGL [01:11] if you are getting much less 60 fps in it, you have a serious problem, and that's the only thing it's useful for checking [01:12] the idea is to share the whole ALSA output as .pls... is this possible? [01:12] what sort of hardware acceleration should i run? [01:13] Compiz and Kwin maintainers both recommend open source over proprietary for correctness (although performance can be worse) [01:14] im running kwin, [01:14] but i really cant figure it out why it hangs up with opengl [01:14] composite effects [01:15] I figured it out. Something in the new resolvconf is broken for me. Replacing the /etc/resolv.conf symlink with my old resolv.conf file seems to work for now [01:15] glancing around it looks like Blur caused serious performance problems with Nvidia's proprietary driver, and that's why it was blacklisted [01:15] isis___: You'd have to ask Nvidia about why their driver has bugs and if and when they plan to fix the problem [01:16] hello [01:18] I've disabled all the effects that were complaining, it still freezes and goes back to xrender [01:18] disabling them wouldn't do anything because it already refused to load them in the first place when it detected your driver [01:18] yo, so my mouse has a problem with the scroll wheel... when I scroll up or down, it is way too fast. I have it set to only scroll one line in the System Settings->Input Devices->Mouse. Should I be changing xorg configs, xset thingies, etc? any advice, cheers === steve___ is now known as z3r0d3rp [01:19] im not quite sure if it is nvidia to blame, this already happened to me a year ago, it is some combination of packages from nvidia,kwin, mesa, gl that make a mess [01:19] Mesa wouldn't figure into that, Nvidia has their own OpenGL implementation [01:20] hey [01:20] hey, using 12.04, where can I find a kde3 repository for that? [01:21] need the old kmail [01:21] There is no KDE 3. It has been exterminated. :) [01:21] yeah... but I know there are unofficial 3.5 repos [01:21] thought maybe someone can help me find one that works with 10.14 [01:21] You could try Trinity, but that's entirely unofficial and would not be supported here. [01:22] anyone know why the password screen for encrypted drives changed to generic in the latest release... and how to switch it back to the way it was in 11.10 [01:22] 10.14? [01:22] sorry, meant 12.04 [01:23] I'm referring to the unlock screen for encrypted lvm [01:23] how are the ati drivers working in 12.04 [01:24] from additional drivers or am i better of install ones from ati site [01:24] bmb: The proprietary ones? [01:25] is a virutal desktop across all monitors? [01:25] they uploaded a Catalyst 12.4 pre-release, it appears to not be causing any obvious problems. [01:25] desktops activities multiple monitors search and launch news folder view, too many options ugg [01:26] there's two options that Jockey should provide for proprietary graphics drivers, one offers post-release updates, and one doesn't [01:26] which should i use [01:26] hm... apparently the solution with my mouse scroll wheel problem is plug/replugin the mouse: http://askubuntu.com/questions/32280/mouse-wheel-jumpy-on-scrolling [01:27] it depends, AMD is planning to drop everything pre-RadeonHD 5000 series in Catalyst 12.7, which would be July [01:27] so if you have something older than that, you might want to use the one that doesn't update [01:28] Im ok 5800 series [01:28] then you probably want the one that gives updates [01:28] ? [01:29] ill give them a shot [01:30] you should also install the xvba-va-driver package [01:30] it allows video decoding to be partially offloaded to the card's UVD engine in some cases, worth having [01:32] sound useful for media playback [01:32] sounds [01:35] pelase help, i update to 12.04 and now the windows don't have the close button, they stay on top even when i touch the show desktop windows anyone can help me plese [01:37] is there any possibility to share the alsa output? [01:37] for example as .pls [01:38] juacom99: try kwin --replace [01:39] rapidsp: kwin?? [01:39] rapidsp: oops sry this was not for me [01:39] well... color me surprised. sound card working out of the box in linux. [01:40] most do if they're from a reputable vendor (like most hardware in general) [01:40] my connection drop :( [01:41] dvds [01:42] do you read me? [01:42] yea [01:42] no [01:42] DorkVader: lol [01:42] any idea what my problem may be :S [01:42] jucom99: and try change window theme in settings [01:43] i can't even resize my window or change form one window to another :S [01:45] or run kde by new user [01:46] so, when I watch youtube videos in rekonq, the color is off... the skin tone is bluish... but the preview of the video, if you scroll along the time line, the skin tones are normal [01:46] if I knew how to take screenshots in KDE, I would show you [01:46] DorkVader: kscreenshot? [01:46] Hi fresh install of 12.04 on laptop, after boot screen goes dark for log in page, once i log in its bright again [01:47] DorkVader: Print Screen key [01:47] DorkVader: oops KSNAPSHOT [01:48] ah, ok [01:48] printscreen key... that was awesome [01:48] when do you sleep all? :) [01:48] ok, check this out: http://imgur.com/rbeKu [01:48] xD [01:48] see how the skin tones in the "preview" images of the youtube videos look ok, but the playing video has a bluish tone? strange, eh? [01:49] also, don't ask why I am watching korean singing talent show youtube videos [01:50] actually, I'd ask why you weren't using the ad blocker ;) [01:51] I have ethical issues with adblockers [01:52] also, for the record, I didn't believe that my sound card could possibly work in linux out of the box, so I clicked on the first youtubes video that was on the front page of youtubes [01:52] DorkVader: another browser is correct? [01:52] I don't know, I am on a mission to only use rekonq for the next week [01:53] I don't have iceweasel and/or firefox, or chrome, or konqueror installed [01:54] sad [01:54] I want to live the KDE dream [01:54] It would be nice if someone resurrected the Firefox Qt bindings [01:55] I don't believe they even build anymore [01:55] whats that utility called to pipe stuff to a pastebin from command line? [01:56] phiscribe: maybe http://linuxers.org/article/pastebinit-command-line-pastebin-client [01:57] thats the one! fresh install and adding stuff i like back, could not remember it, thanks [01:58] rapidsp: I am trying to use only KDE software for a few weeks [01:58] kde is so nice looking, i just wanna leave it up for visitors [01:59] so, do most people here use neopiookumpk/Strigi/desktop search indexing? [01:59] I'm not particularly fond of any web browser, but I use Firefox most of the time [02:00] most people i find turn most or all of that off, i generaly like indexing, but it seems a bit rough around the edges atm [02:00] phiscribe: I want to give it a shot [02:00] I feel it's one of those things where nobody is doing the right thing [02:00] I have been using OS X for the last 6 years, and their spotlight indexing is fan-fucking-tastic [02:00] !language | DorkVader [02:00] DorkVader: Please watch your language and topic to help keep this channel family-friendly, polite, and professional. [02:01] oh my [02:01] yeah a lot of good ideas that are buried in the features, that could be usuefull if one had a clue [02:01] DaemonFC: I like google chrome myself [02:01] I have ethical issues with Chrome [02:01] yeah i am solid chrome or chromium, im too google centric [02:01] DaemonFC: but firefox seems to have made some very good improvements in the last 6-12 months or so [02:01] lately, their banding with Microsoft to handcuff HTML 5 [02:02] i dont care if the know what im doing, my butler would to if i had one [02:02] is that possible though? I thoguht chrome was built on web kit? [02:02] FF is still king [02:02] I don't think Webkit or Chrome are good for an open web [02:02] firefox has some plugins that are just not duplicable elsewhere [02:02] * DorkVader just allocated 512mb of ram for neopookumuk database processes [02:03] firefox has about 100 plugins that aren't available in other browsers [02:03] Mozilla had some harsh criticism for the HTML 5 DRM platform that Google and Microsoft are proposing [02:04] an early version of that has shown up as an "experiment" in Chrome 20 [02:04] they shouldn't be adding DRM to any open standard [02:04] well i use chrome or chromium because it of the sync settings, saving my apps plugins ect, becaues of goggle voice, because it has and app store like a tablet [02:04] DRM is probably to protect content, not the "standard" [02:04] it restricts content, mostly from legal and legitimate use [02:04] well DRM in any form is unethical [02:04] also doesn't do a thing to hamper piracy [02:04] i think copyright is unethical [02:05] I think the GPL is unethical [02:05] if i read a book , its in my brain you cant own it [02:05] copyright is fine, DRM is unethical [02:05] your legal right to the info shouldnt penetrate my head [02:05] I'm hoping this is an experiment that blows up in Google's face [02:06] Copyright should not stifle innovation... which it currently does [02:06] the whole system should be scrapped [02:06] I'd expect something like this from Microsoft, but Google pursuing it with Microsoft is sad [02:06] Google backed CISPA [02:06] do no evil" my butt [02:06] its imaginary property, trying to own data, its like trying to own calculus [02:07] it seems they're just trying to make something else that's like Flash+openwashing [02:07] "owning" information lol [02:08] phiscribe: So I hope you publish every one of your private emails online publically [02:08] phiscribe: after all, it's just data [02:10] im not saying they shouldnt be allowed to hide their date or keep it to themselves, just that if the cats out of the bag, its out of the bag [02:10] Apple's new iBooks EULA says that any content created with it can only be sold through Apple [02:10] on an unrelated topic: is publically even a word? Doesn't KDE have a built in dictionary that higlights these type of embarassing misspellings? [02:10] google apple ms and the music recording industry are suing the Akashic records i heard [02:10] publically is a word [02:10] publically embarrassed [02:10] publicly? [02:10] ? [02:10] pub-lickly [02:11] !ot [02:11] #kubuntu is the official Kubuntu support channel, for all Kubuntu-related support questions. Please use #kubuntu-offtopic for general chatter. Thanks! [02:11] bazhang: tell me how to get the unlock screen for encrypted drives from 11.10 back in 12.04 [02:12] z3r0d3rp, ask the channel, if someone knows they will answer [02:12] I did ask [02:12] my mouse wheel doesnt seem to work [02:13] So, lets get back on topic: dictionaries and automatic spellings in KDE? does such a monster exist? [02:13] for what app [02:13] all apps [02:14] DorkVader: it's app dependent [02:14] dont think so, spelling is per app, in any os i can think of [02:15] so how about konversation I wonder? is konversation a popular irc client? I tried quassle, but wasn't a fan. [02:15] You have a Logitecth Mouse connected, and libsub was found at compile time, but it was not passible to access this mouse. This is brobably cuased by a permissions problem, you should consult the manula on how to fix this. [02:16] hm..... kspell isn't a package? [02:16] that is what shows on the cordless elite duo tab in the mouse settings under input devices under system prfrences, what permesions?? the wheel doesnt work [02:16] some apps may use the same dictonary but it is still per app [02:18] well... I better reboot, I've changed a lot of thingies [02:19] ok, all the sudden the wheel works [02:20] ah i gotta reboot to, video driver [02:21] sudden :) [02:28] hello I'm new to kubuntu; I am trying to join 6 avi files and render them into a dvd compliant format, kdenlive makes the audio sync out from the 3rd file onwards, are there better ways to do this? [02:29] try another editor? [02:30] are the input settings the same? [02:30] devede does the same :( [02:30] sounds like the problem might be in ffmpeg [02:30] yes, kdenlive reminded me thankfully [02:31] I haven't used either in 11.10 or 12.04 [02:31] they worked fine in 10.10 [02:31] weird [02:31] I might give openshot a go [02:32] see how that turns out [02:32] thnx for the info [02:37] sup [02:41] * DorkVader attempts to RDP from kubuntu to a VM running windows 7 === pangolin is now known as Guest99593 === Guest99593 is now known as IdleOne [02:52] w00t, success [02:55] Is anyone besides me having problems upgrading from 11.10 to 12.04? [02:57] do-release-upgrade returns "No new release found"...any ideas? [02:58] sudo apt-get update && apt-get dist-upgrade ? [03:00] nope =( [03:02] elGuntor: same error? no new release found... ? [03:02] Not the exact same verbage, but yes, nothing found [03:03] I've changed servers, and sudo apt-get update and retried also [03:03] elGuntor: do-release-upgrade -d ? [03:04] so, what other eye candy impressive effects can I do in kde? [03:04] same error...no new release found [03:04] wait... [03:05] server is main? [03:05] currently yes [03:06] i know there is problem for upgrade 10.04 to 12.04 [03:06] may be for 11.10 same issue [03:07] okie dokie...guess I'll wait for a bit [03:12] DorkVader: install oxygen transparent [03:13] z3r0d3rp: don't see it [03:13] is it a package in the repository? [03:13] it's not official yet [03:13] kde look.org [03:14] http://kde-look.org/content/show.php?content=127752 === serserar is now known as Guest28207 [03:15] http://i.imgur.com/ddO2T.jpg [03:17] cool [03:17] install the dependencies first [03:17] then run the script in a new folder with the --branch stable switch [03:19] once you run the sript, cd into the "build" directory and do "make -J2" [03:19] so how does KDE and/or Linux do with regards to power consumption when your computer sits there doing absolutely nothing... but you don't want it to go to sleep/hiberante? [03:19] then sudo make install [03:20] kde is abou the best [03:20] unity is second and xfce/lxde third [03:20] not much in the way of idle processes [03:20] is there a way I can see at which speed my CPU is running for instance? has it been allowed to down clock itself? [03:21] z3r0d3rp: What colour scheme are you using in that screenshot? [03:22] obsidian coast with oxygen transparent widget theme and ghost deco for window decorations [03:24] dorkvader I went through every wm looking for a replacement to gnome 2... kde does everything really well [03:25] very little cpu overhead and full featured unlike gnome/unity [03:27] what did you think of cinnamon? [03:27] I like it in lots of ways but dislike others [03:28] for 1 it has lots of processor overhead [03:28] anything in particular? [03:28] anyone a font guru? fonts shouldnt be this bad [03:28] phiscribe: make sure you enable antialiasing and that it is set to slight [03:28] i have it on medium now [03:29] that's your problem [03:29] another issue with cinnamon is that it lacks a lot of features [03:29] was worse with it turned off, seems i have log out to make it stick [03:29] change it to slight then logout and back in [03:31] one thing that irritated me to death with cinnamon was that I couldn't replace the panel with awn and disable notification area to use awn as the panel [03:31] the cinnamon panel is meh [03:31] well they are diffrent now (fonts) maybe the dpi can be changed [03:32] I found that the vid card makes a difference [03:32] they look great on my nvidia laptop but getting them to look good in intel graphics was a bit harder [03:34] but usually AA enabled with rgb subpixel rendering and slight hinting is usually the best [03:34] i just dont get if i boot into that other os, they are clear and crisp, i dont think about them, here they are obnoxious and right in your face, alwasy squinting and lifting the bifocals up and down, so it shouldnt be the hardware [03:34] ubuntu unity uses different fonts [03:35] I just use monospace...looks fine [03:35] I can't remember which off the top of my head [03:35] maybe if i go to sans or serif or something [03:35] kde defaults to ubuntu 9 as the system font [03:35] try changing it around [03:35] speaking of desktops and wms...did you try e17? [03:35] dl helvectica or something [03:36] enlightenment? [03:36] yep [03:36] yeah tried the latest bodhi if that's what you mean [03:36] looks pretty good [03:36] thoughts? [03:37] is there no way to use a completely difrrent rendering system? [03:37] it's nice for a minimal install [03:37] phiscribe... boot into your other distro... write down the default fonts and change them to match [03:37] that is my best advice [03:38] well it might be the font, but i think it might be the way they are rendered, ill play with them but i dont think it is the font, its how they are drawn [03:39] if you use any setting over slight hinting they will distort [03:39] like now in this chat, the words look like they need a shave [03:41] I like ubuntu 9 for a notebook it's nice and small, but I would go bigger on a larger monitor [03:44] gonna log out again, trying larger dpi [03:46] ok going to 120 dpi helped a great deal, less fuzzy words [03:47] even if they are a bit large [03:47] good =) [05:16] hey all [05:16] again [05:20] pretty quite in here Roey [05:21] heya [05:23] Hello, wanted to ask which Samba Version is in 12.04 included? I have problems with accessig a Buffalo TeraStation Network Storage [05:24] Hi. Kubuntu 12.04. I have installed Google chrome, and dragged that application (copied) to my desktop folder. Initially the application is showing with its Icon, but when i click first time, the Icon is going away, and inplace it is showing questions mark. I explicitly set the Icon, but still Desktop is not showing the icon. [05:24] How to solve this problem ? [05:31] if it is installed find it from the kickoff launcher, right click on it, and pick add to desktop if you want and icon, and was it chrome or chromium? [05:32] if it was chrome, you had to use the goggle installer thing, not sure it it will put a link in the launcher [05:35] It is Chrome. This problem is with all third part apps. I did the same. From kickoff launcher -> right click -> add to desktop. But when you click first time on the desktop, the Icon go away. [05:36] is your desktop set to desktop or search and launch or folder view or news [05:36] joesi: the libsmbclient is 2:3.6.3-2ubuntu2 not sure if the server is included [05:37] thanks, I just need the client as the server is the NAS Station [05:38] well my mouse pointer just went bonkers, but just on one monitor [05:39] Desktop [05:39] i dont knwo what to suggest shashi_kubuntu [05:40] ive been using the search and launch interface mostly, so im not as versed in the other mode [05:48] shashi_kubuntu: are widgets locked? shortcuts are realy just little widgets in kde i think === AD is now known as Guest3438 [06:13] hi [06:15] I have installed KDE,Gnome on Ubuntu. I want to boot and login it in text mode. If i default login interface is lightdm then then text mode work but when it is KDM does not work. Any hint please? [06:19] I get it works somehow but when run "startx" command then it is error "Failed to load session "ubuntu" " [06:21] unsuccessful: how to install KDE and Gnome in Ubuntu?? [06:21] vividh, "apt-get install kde-plasma-desktop gnome-shell" [06:24] I want the KDE as default session too. [06:24] vividh, anything wrong? [06:25] unsuccessful: no, nothing's wrong. I was just wondering if it's better to install KDE in ubuntu, or separately install kubuntu...?? [06:25] startx is working with lightdm but it is getting Default Ubuntu(Unity). But when i change the kde(dpkg-reconfigure kdm) then it does not work [06:31] vividh, may it not be problem for multiple sessions ? [06:34] vividh, i actually want Gnome and KDE both [06:36] unsuccessful: ya me too, but I am torn b/w installing KDE in ubuntu, or installing kubuntu separately. I have only recently transitioned from windows to linux. Sorry if I can't help you. [06:37] well i have a problem. i removed all the colums from the System Activity window, and i don't see a way of re-adding them. [07:03] Hi guys [07:03] I've tried to update to the latest ubuntu and my system crashed [07:04] It didn't finish the install and now I can't install/update anythin [07:04] the Virtuoso crashes [07:04] and when doing apt-get install it gives me this error apt-get: error while loading shared libraries: libapt-pkg.so.4.12: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory [07:06] What can I do to finish the update , or to downgrade, reinstall is not yet an option [07:09] Zenger: have you tried opening the update manager?? [07:09] vividh: it doesn't open, from the menu , from the konsole I don't know the command [07:10] The install can be resumed if all the packages were downloaded successfully...?? [07:10] so u cnt open the update manager from Dash?? [07:11] Zenger: please don't ask in multiple channels at the same time [07:11] Zenger: try this command: "sudo apt-get install -f". Do u get any errors?? [07:12] SunTsu: my system is f*cked up what do you suppose I should do besides asking in both which seem the right channels, Ubuntu is the distro , kubuntu is the wm I'm using I ask in both because I'm not sure where to ask or whom is causing the problem. Thank you. [07:13] vividh: tried gives apt-get: error while loading shared libraries: libapt-pkg.so.4.12: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory [07:13] 1 guy in ubuntu suggested reinstalling apt-get [07:14] Zenger: well try that and search the net too.... [07:14] vividh: he will, because that is what ap-get uses [07:14] Zenger: er, be patient for once. You will have a hard time doing what two channels tell you at the same time [07:15] Zenger: asking in multiple channels is considered rude [07:15] SunTsu: I'm sorry [07:15] for now I'm trying to fix the job with a guy from the ubuntu channe [07:15] I'm not going to nag you untill I do or don't do the job [07:15] SunTsu: hey, can u help me with this? I just installed KDE and Gnome in Ubuntu. There is a prompt asking me for a default display manager, choose from "kdm" and "lightdm". what does this mean?? [07:15] thank you [07:17] vividh: a "Display Manager" is what you see when logging in (*), so it's asking you which one you want kdm, which is KDE's DM, or lightdm, which is ubuntu's default DM [07:17] SunTsu: oh, thanks a lot..:) [07:17] Zenger: I'd try reinstalling apt-get, too, using dpkg to do the work [07:18] (*) is "Simplified" [07:20] What the heck - my KDE task switcher covers 20% of my screen - is it default for sight impaired now? [07:25] Is the session saved if I log out of ubuntu? It won't disrupt any downloads if I pause 'em and resume later?? [07:26] vividh: what does "logging out of ubuntu" mean? You mean: "Log out of my graphic environment"? [07:26] yes i want to log out and check if Gnome and KDE are installed or not.. [07:27] vividh: That depends on your graphic environment, it's the one that does session management [07:28] vividh: btw. you can check that using xephyr, no need to log out - or you could open another user session [07:30] SunTsu: thanks... [07:35]