[00:00] <yofel_> penalizacja: not by default, but you can install kde-telepathy if you want
[00:00] <penalizacja> ok thanks
[00:01] <penalizacja> just got confused with release nites :)
[00:01] <phiscribe> ok logging out and back in, the fonts are better, not super but better
[00:02] <juacom99> Hi, i got a big big problem, i update to Kubuntu 12.04 and i don't see the close, minimize, restore button on my windows, any idea how can i fix it :S
[00:03] <DorkVader> can one mount .iso images from within dolphin?
[00:11] <juacom99> ple
[00:11] <juacom99> please help,  i update to Kubuntu 12.04 and i don't see the close, minimize, restore button on my windows, any idea how can i fix it :S
[00:12] <juacom99> and the windows always stay on top
[00:12] <natman> wooohoo just after installing 12.04
[00:12] <juacom99> yes
[00:12] <natman> should muon auto inform me of any updates?
[00:12] <juacom99> it happend to you too?
[00:12] <natman> or do i need to run it a first time?
[00:14] <DorkVader> yo, can I add a specific program to klicker?  or that alt+f2 launcher?   It is a program I installed from a CD and want to be able to launch quickly
[00:14] <deevad> Hi, I installed Thunderbird on Kubuntu 12.04 LTS , and the systray 'message indicator' doesn't display a little 'envelop/letter' icon ( filled in green when message received ) as in my previous install of Kubuntu 11.10 .  Is it known ?
[00:16] <deevad> DorkVader:  right-click on 'K' menu  > Edit application  ; set a new item
[00:17] <deevad> DorkVader:  you will make it a menu item. Able to be favorited
[00:19] <gensymv> hi, i can't get to activate vpn connections using the network manager applet is anyone having similar problems?
[00:21] <gensymv> it complains about the driver not being there
[00:21] <gensymv> weirdly enough vpnc on it self works
[00:29] <DorkVader> deevad: great, thanks!
[00:30] <deevad> :)
[00:39] <isis___> Hello everyone! I've just updated to 12.04, i have an nvidia card with current driver from their site. OpenGL composite freezes my screen, any help please?
[00:40] <isis___> XRender works with minimal effects, but when i try to use the opengl, it freezes, tells to restore previous config, and kwin complains about not being able to load blur wobbly and some others
[00:41] <detrix> Hello, I just installed Kubuntu, 12.04. Problem: hard drive was partitioned, to have root, and home directories separate. I wanted to just use the home directory that was there. my accont user name is detrix, but for some reason kde main menu, under computer shows my home directory as /home/adam    I do not know where that came from, and I can't seem to change it. I checked passwd, and it is set correctly there. I do not know what
[00:41] <detrix> else to do.
[00:46] <monkeyjuice> detrix:  check on #ubuntu they might be able to help
[00:49] <DorkVader> so, I hate to be a stickler for details, but is there a way to make the fonts look a bit better?  maybe I am just used to windows, but things seem a bit off to me
[00:50] <isis___> DorkVader: did u try cleantype?
[00:50] <DorkVader> what is this cleantype you speak of?
[00:50] <isis___> antialising
[00:50] <DorkVader> this is an option  you can enable then?
[00:50] <isis___> yeah
[00:51] <DaemonFC> cleartype is just a Microsoft-ism for subpixel font anti-aliasing
[00:51] <DorkVader> in which system settings thing?
[00:51] <DaemonFC> if that's what you were referring to....
[00:51] <isis___> u go to the panel settings -> application appearence -> fonts
[00:51] <isis___> it is the same effect
[00:51] <isis___> smoother fonts
[00:52] <DorkVader> ok, it was set to "System Settigns", I'm not sure if it was set
[00:52] <DorkVader> hinting style medium,  use sub-pixel rendering "RGB", thats it?
[00:52] <DaemonFC> should be
[00:52] <isis___> try that to your likes
[00:52] <DaemonFC> you need to restart all applications that are running for it to take effect though
[00:53] <DorkVader> yeah, ok
[00:54] <DaemonFC> bugs in certain applications or video drivers can cause bizarre side effects, so I believe the KDE upstream default is disabled unless application requests it
[00:55] <DaemonFC> if you start seeing font rendering problems, then you might want to turn it back off :)
[00:55] <DorkVader> ah, ok, sounds good
[00:55] <DorkVader> is there a quick way to do a shutdown of KDE, relogin and launch all the apps again?
[00:56] <DorkVader> end session I guess is what I want
[00:56] <DaemonFC> just log out and log back in and it should be in effect globally
[01:00] <isis___> whats this? KWin::EffectsHandlerImpl::loadEffect: EffectsHandler::loadEffect : Effect  "kwin4_effect_blur"  is not support
[01:01] <Dragnslcr> Just rebooted into 12.04, and it looks like DNS resolution isn't working. Anybody else having the same problem?
[01:01] <DorkVader> DaemonFC, isis___: great, thanks for the help there
[01:01] <DaemonFC> your video driver doesn't support that effect or loading it will cause kwin to become unstable due to your video driver
[01:02] <isis___> DorkVader: ur welcome
[01:02] <DaemonFC> ditto
[01:03] <DaemonFC> isis___: kwin probes for video adapter model and driver loaded and will blacklist plugins or choose a backend accordingly. Different drivers obviously have their own bugs, missing features, etc.
[01:05] <DaemonFC> if you're using a KDE release older than 4.8.x, then the Blur effect is outrageously computationally expensive and you might consider disabling it anyway, jsut for performance reasons
[01:06] <isis___> im running 4.8.2
[01:06] <isis___> it is not just the blur
[01:06] <DaemonFC> what's your graphics adapter and driver?
[01:06] <Dragnslcr> My virtual machines that are still on 11.10 seem to work fine, so I'm pretty sure it's a problem with something that changed with the 12.04 upgrade
[01:07] <DorkVader> are you installing this in a virtual machine?  make sure you have 2D/3D acceleration enabled, and enough GPU memory allocated
[01:07] <the3rdbit> Moin Leute
[01:08] <DorkVader> Enable PAE/NX,  Enable IO  APIC
[01:08] <the3rdbit> Wie kann ich einen lokaler Internetradio unter Kubuntu sharen?
[01:08] <isis___> i have a nvidia , the current driver from their site, uninstalled the nouveau
[01:08] <the3rdbit> also so wie eine .pls unter ampache, bloss ohne ampache ;)
[01:09] <isis___> opengl freezes, glxgears shows okay
[01:10] <the3rdbit> sry EN: how can I share a local internet radio
[01:10] <the3rdbit> ?
[01:10] <DaemonFC> glxgears isn't really complicated, the only thing it's good for is ensuring that you have some sort of hardware acceleration available for OpenGL
[01:11] <DaemonFC> if you are getting much less 60 fps in it, you have a serious problem, and that's the only thing it's useful for checking
[01:12] <the3rdbit> the idea is to share the whole ALSA output as .pls... is this possible?
[01:12] <isis___> what sort of hardware acceleration should i run?
[01:13] <DaemonFC> Compiz and Kwin maintainers both recommend open source over proprietary for correctness (although performance can be worse)
[01:14] <isis___> im running kwin,
[01:14] <isis___> but i really cant figure it out why it hangs up with opengl
[01:14] <isis___> composite effects
[01:15] <Dragnslcr> I figured it out. Something in the new resolvconf is broken for me. Replacing the /etc/resolv.conf symlink with my old resolv.conf file seems to work for now
[01:15] <DaemonFC> glancing around it looks like Blur caused serious performance problems with Nvidia's proprietary driver, and that's why it was blacklisted
[01:15] <DaemonFC> isis___: You'd have to ask Nvidia about why their driver has bugs and if and when they plan to fix the problem
[01:16] <the3rdbit> hello
[01:18] <isis___> I've disabled all the effects that were complaining, it still freezes and goes back to xrender
[01:18] <DaemonFC> disabling them wouldn't do anything because it already refused to load them in the first place when it detected your driver
[01:18] <DorkVader> yo, so my mouse has a problem with the scroll wheel... when I scroll up or down, it is way too fast.  I have it set to only scroll one line in the System Settings->Input Devices->Mouse.  Should I be changing xorg configs, xset thingies, etc?  any advice, cheers
[01:19] <isis___> im not quite sure if it is nvidia to blame, this already happened to me a year ago, it is some combination of packages from nvidia,kwin, mesa, gl that make a mess
[01:19] <DaemonFC> Mesa wouldn't figure into that, Nvidia has their own OpenGL implementation
[01:20] <stephan> hey
[01:20] <stephan> hey, using 12.04, where can I find a kde3 repository for that?
[01:21] <stephan> need the old kmail
[01:21] <DaemonFC> There is no KDE 3. It has been exterminated. :)
[01:21] <stephan> yeah... but I know there are unofficial 3.5 repos
[01:21] <stephan> thought maybe someone can help me find one that works with 10.14
[01:21] <DaemonFC> You could try Trinity, but that's entirely unofficial and would not be supported here.
[01:22] <z3r0d3rp> anyone know why the password screen for encrypted drives changed to generic in the latest release... and how to switch it back to the way it was in 11.10
[01:22] <szal> 10.14?
[01:22] <stephan> sorry, meant 12.04
[01:23] <z3r0d3rp> I'm referring to the unlock screen for encrypted lvm
[01:23] <bmb> how are the ati drivers working in 12.04
[01:24] <bmb> from additional drivers or am i better of install ones from ati site
[01:24] <DaemonFC> bmb: The proprietary ones?
[01:25] <phiscribe> is a virutal desktop across all monitors?
[01:25] <DaemonFC> they uploaded a Catalyst 12.4 pre-release, it appears to not be causing any obvious problems.
[01:25] <phiscribe> desktops activities multiple monitors search and launch news folder view, too many options ugg
[01:26] <DaemonFC> there's two options that Jockey should provide for proprietary graphics drivers, one offers post-release updates, and one doesn't
[01:26] <bmb> which should i use
[01:26] <DorkVader> hm... apparently the solution with my mouse scroll wheel problem is plug/replugin the  mouse: http://askubuntu.com/questions/32280/mouse-wheel-jumpy-on-scrolling
[01:27] <DaemonFC> it depends, AMD is planning to drop everything pre-RadeonHD 5000 series in Catalyst 12.7, which would be July
[01:27] <DaemonFC> so if you have something older than that, you might want to use the one that doesn't update
[01:28] <bmb> Im ok 5800 series
[01:28] <DaemonFC> then you probably want the one that gives updates
[01:28] <the3rdbit> ?
[01:29] <bmb> ill give them a shot
[01:30] <DaemonFC> you should also install the xvba-va-driver package
[01:30] <DaemonFC> it allows video decoding to be partially offloaded to the card's UVD engine in some cases, worth having
[01:32] <bmb> sound useful for media playback
[01:32] <bmb> sounds
[01:35] <juacom99> pelase help, i update to 12.04 and now the windows don't have the close button, they stay on top even when i touch the show desktop windows anyone can help me plese
[01:37] <the3rdbit> is there any possibility to share the alsa output?
[01:37] <the3rdbit> for example as .pls
[01:38] <rapidsp> juacom99: try kwin --replace
[01:39] <the3rdbit> rapidsp: kwin??
[01:39] <the3rdbit> rapidsp: oops sry this was not for me
[01:39] <DorkVader> well... color me surprised.  sound card working out of the box in linux.
[01:40] <DaemonFC> most do if they're from a reputable vendor (like most hardware in general)
[01:40] <jucom99> my connection drop :(
[01:41] <jucom99> dvds
[01:42] <jucom99> do you read me?
[01:42] <rapidsp> yea
[01:42] <DorkVader> no
[01:42] <jucom99> DorkVader: lol
[01:42] <jucom99> any idea what my problem may be :S
[01:42] <rapidsp> jucom99: and try change window theme  in settings
[01:43] <jucom99> i can't even resize my window or change form one window to another :S
[01:45] <rapidsp> or run kde by new user
[01:46] <DorkVader> so, when I watch youtube videos in rekonq, the color is off... the skin tone is bluish... but the preview of the video, if you scroll along the time line, the skin tones are normal
[01:46] <DorkVader> if I knew how to take screenshots in KDE, I would show you
[01:46] <the3rdbit> DorkVader: kscreenshot?
[01:46] <natman> Hi fresh install of 12.04 on laptop, after boot screen goes dark for log in page, once i log in its bright again
[01:47] <DaemonFC> DorkVader: Print Screen key
[01:47] <the3rdbit> DorkVader: oops KSNAPSHOT
[01:48] <DorkVader> ah, ok
[01:48] <DorkVader> printscreen key... that was awesome
[01:48] <rapidsp> when do you sleep all? :)
[01:48] <DorkVader> ok, check this out: http://imgur.com/rbeKu
[01:48] <the3rdbit> xD
[01:48] <DorkVader> see how the skin tones in the "preview" images of the youtube videos look ok, but the playing video has a bluish tone?  strange, eh?
[01:49] <DorkVader> also, don't ask why I am watching korean singing talent show youtube videos
[01:50] <DaemonFC> actually, I'd ask why you weren't using the ad blocker ;)
[01:51] <DorkVader> I have ethical issues with adblockers
[01:52] <DorkVader> also, for the record, I didn't believe that my sound card could possibly work in linux out of the box, so I clicked on the first youtubes video that was on the front page of youtubes
[01:52] <rapidsp> DorkVader: another browser is correct?
[01:52] <DorkVader> I don't know, I am on a mission to only use rekonq for the next week
[01:53] <DorkVader> I don't have iceweasel and/or firefox, or chrome, or konqueror installed
[01:54] <rapidsp> sad
[01:54] <DorkVader> I want to live the KDE dream
[01:54] <DaemonFC> It would be nice if someone resurrected the Firefox Qt bindings
[01:55] <DaemonFC> I don't believe they even build anymore
[01:55] <phiscribe> whats that utility called to pipe stuff to a pastebin from command line?
[01:56] <rapidsp> phiscribe: maybe http://linuxers.org/article/pastebinit-command-line-pastebin-client
[01:57] <phiscribe> thats the one! fresh install and adding stuff i like back, could not remember it, thanks
[01:58] <DorkVader> rapidsp: I am trying to use only KDE software for a few weeks
[01:58] <phiscribe> kde is so nice looking, i just wanna leave it up for visitors
[01:59] <DorkVader> so, do most people here use neopiookumpk/Strigi/desktop search indexing?
[01:59] <DaemonFC> I'm not particularly fond of any web browser, but I use Firefox most of the time
[02:00] <phiscribe> most people i find turn most or all of that off, i generaly like indexing, but it seems a bit rough around the edges atm
[02:00] <DorkVader> phiscribe: I want to give it a shot
[02:00] <DaemonFC> I feel it's one of those things where nobody is doing the right thing
[02:00] <DorkVader> I have been using OS X for the last 6 years, and their spotlight indexing is fan-fucking-tastic
[02:00] <IdleOne> !language | DorkVader
[02:01] <DorkVader> oh my
[02:01] <phiscribe> yeah a lot of good ideas that are buried in the features, that could be usuefull if one had a clue
[02:01] <DorkVader> DaemonFC: I like google chrome myself
[02:01] <DaemonFC> I have ethical issues with Chrome
[02:01] <phiscribe> yeah i am solid chrome or chromium, im too google centric
[02:01] <DorkVader> DaemonFC: but firefox seems to have made some very good improvements in the last 6-12 months or so
[02:01] <DaemonFC> lately, their banding with Microsoft to handcuff HTML 5
[02:02] <phiscribe> i dont care if the know what im doing, my butler would to if i had one
[02:02] <DorkVader> is that possible though?  I thoguht chrome was built on web kit?
[02:02] <z3r0d3rp> FF is still king
[02:02] <DaemonFC> I don't think Webkit or Chrome are good for an open web
[02:02] <phiscribe> firefox has some plugins that are just not duplicable elsewhere
[02:02]  * DorkVader just allocated 512mb of ram for neopookumuk database processes
[02:03] <z3r0d3rp> firefox has about 100 plugins that aren't available in other browsers
[02:03] <DaemonFC> Mozilla had some harsh criticism for the HTML 5 DRM platform that Google and Microsoft are proposing
[02:04] <DaemonFC> an early version of that has shown up as an "experiment" in Chrome 20
[02:04] <z3r0d3rp> they shouldn't be adding DRM to any open standard
[02:04] <phiscribe> well i use chrome or chromium because it of the sync settings, saving my apps plugins ect, becaues of goggle voice, because it has and app store like a tablet
[02:04] <DorkVader> DRM is probably to protect content, not the "standard"
[02:04] <DaemonFC> it restricts content, mostly from legal and legitimate use
[02:04] <z3r0d3rp> well DRM in any form is unethical
[02:04] <z3r0d3rp> also doesn't do a thing to hamper piracy
[02:04] <phiscribe> i think copyright is unethical
[02:05] <DorkVader> I think the GPL is unethical
[02:05] <phiscribe> if i read a book , its in my brain you cant own it
[02:05] <z3r0d3rp> copyright is fine, DRM is unethical
[02:05] <phiscribe> your legal right to the info shouldnt penetrate my head
[02:05] <DaemonFC> I'm hoping this is an experiment that blows up in Google's face
[02:06] <z3r0d3rp> Copyright should not stifle innovation... which it currently does
[02:06] <z3r0d3rp> the whole system should be scrapped
[02:06] <DaemonFC> I'd expect something like this from Microsoft, but Google pursuing it with Microsoft is sad
[02:06] <z3r0d3rp> Google backed CISPA
[02:06] <z3r0d3rp> do no evil" my butt
[02:06] <phiscribe> its imaginary property, trying to own data, its like trying to own calculus
[02:07] <DaemonFC> it seems they're just trying to make something else that's like Flash+openwashing
[02:07] <z3r0d3rp> "owning" information lol
[02:08] <DorkVader> phiscribe: So I hope you publish every one of your private emails online publically
[02:08] <DorkVader> phiscribe: after all, it's just data
[02:10] <phiscribe> im not saying they shouldnt be allowed to hide their date or keep it to themselves, just that if the cats out of the bag, its out of the bag
[02:10] <z3r0d3rp> Apple's new iBooks EULA says that any content created with it can only be sold through Apple
[02:10] <DorkVader> on an unrelated topic: is publically even a word?    Doesn't KDE have a built in dictionary that higlights these type of embarassing misspellings?
[02:10] <phiscribe> google apple ms and the music recording industry are suing the Akashic records i heard
[02:10] <z3r0d3rp> publically is a word
[02:10] <z3r0d3rp> publically embarrassed
[02:10] <DorkVader> publicly?
[02:10] <z3r0d3rp> ?
[02:10] <DorkVader> pub-lickly
[02:11] <bazhang> !ot
[02:11] <z3r0d3rp> bazhang: tell me how to get the unlock screen for encrypted drives from 11.10 back in 12.04
[02:12] <bazhang> z3r0d3rp, ask the channel, if someone knows they will answer
[02:12] <z3r0d3rp> I did ask
[02:12] <phiscribe> my mouse wheel doesnt seem to work
[02:13] <DorkVader> So, lets get back on topic: dictionaries and automatic spellings in KDE?  does such a monster exist?
[02:13] <phiscribe> for what app
[02:13] <DorkVader> all apps
[02:14] <z3r0d3rp> DorkVader: it's app dependent
[02:14] <phiscribe> dont think so, spelling is per app, in any os i can think of
[02:15] <DorkVader> so how about konversation I wonder?  is konversation a popular irc client?  I tried quassle, but wasn't a fan.
[02:15] <phiscribe> You have a Logitecth Mouse connected, and libsub was found at compile time, but it was not passible to access this mouse.  This is brobably cuased by a permissions problem, you should consult the manula on how to fix this.
[02:16] <DorkVader> hm..... kspell isn't a package?
[02:16] <phiscribe> that is what shows on the cordless elite duo tab in the mouse settings under input devices under system prfrences, what permesions??  the wheel doesnt work
[02:16] <phiscribe> some apps may use the same dictonary but it is still per app
[02:18] <DorkVader> well... I better reboot, I've changed a lot of thingies
[02:19] <phiscribe> ok, all the sudden the wheel works
[02:20] <phiscribe> ah i gotta reboot to, video driver
[02:21] <rapidsp> sudden :)
[02:28] <dave2012> hello I'm new to kubuntu; I am trying to join 6 avi files and render them into a dvd compliant format, kdenlive makes the audio sync out from the 3rd file onwards, are there better ways to do this?
[02:29] <z3r0d3rp> try another editor?
[02:30] <z3r0d3rp> are the input settings the same?
[02:30] <dave2012> devede does the same :(
[02:30] <z3r0d3rp> sounds like the problem might be in ffmpeg
[02:30] <dave2012> yes, kdenlive reminded me thankfully
[02:31] <z3r0d3rp> I haven't used either in 11.10 or 12.04
[02:31] <z3r0d3rp> they worked fine in 10.10
[02:31] <dave2012> weird
[02:31] <dave2012> I might give openshot a go
[02:32] <dave2012> see how that turns out
[02:32] <dave2012> thnx for the info
[02:37] <DorkVader> sup
[02:41]  * DorkVader attempts to RDP from kubuntu to a VM running windows 7
[02:52] <DorkVader> w00t, success
[02:55] <elGuntor> Is anyone besides me having problems upgrading from 11.10 to 12.04?
[02:57] <elGuntor> do-release-upgrade returns "No new release found"...any ideas?
[02:58] <DorkVader> sudo apt-get update && apt-get dist-upgrade ?
[03:00] <elGuntor> nope =(
[03:02] <DorkVader> elGuntor: same error?  no new release found... ?
[03:02] <elGuntor> Not the exact same verbage, but yes, nothing found
[03:03] <elGuntor> I've changed servers, and sudo apt-get update and retried also
[03:03] <rapidsp> elGuntor: do-release-upgrade -d ?
[03:04] <DorkVader> so, what other eye candy impressive effects can I do in kde?
[03:04] <elGuntor> same error...no new release found
[03:04] <rapidsp> wait...
[03:05] <rapidsp> server is main?
[03:05] <elGuntor> currently yes
[03:06] <rapidsp> i know there is problem for upgrade 10.04 to 12.04
[03:06] <rapidsp> may be for 11.10 same issue
[03:07] <elGuntor> okie dokie...guess I'll wait for a bit
[03:12] <z3r0d3rp> DorkVader: install oxygen transparent
[03:13] <DorkVader> z3r0d3rp: don't see it
[03:13] <DorkVader> is it a package in the repository?
[03:13] <z3r0d3rp> it's not official yet
[03:13] <z3r0d3rp> kde look.org
[03:14] <DorkVader> http://kde-look.org/content/show.php?content=127752
[03:15] <z3r0d3rp> http://i.imgur.com/ddO2T.jpg
[03:17] <DorkVader> cool
[03:17] <z3r0d3rp> install the dependencies first
[03:17] <z3r0d3rp> then run the script in a new folder with the --branch stable switch
[03:19] <z3r0d3rp> once you run the sript, cd into the "build" directory and do "make -J2"
[03:19] <DorkVader> so how does KDE and/or Linux do with regards to power consumption when your computer sits there doing absolutely nothing... but you don't want it to go to sleep/hiberante?
[03:19] <z3r0d3rp> then sudo make install
[03:20] <z3r0d3rp> kde is abou the best
[03:20] <z3r0d3rp> unity is second and xfce/lxde third
[03:20] <z3r0d3rp> not much in the way of idle processes
[03:20] <DorkVader> is there a way I can see at which speed my CPU is running for instance?  has it been allowed to down clock itself?
[03:21] <elGuntor> z3r0d3rp: What colour scheme are you using in that screenshot?
[03:22] <z3r0d3rp> obsidian coast with oxygen transparent widget theme and  ghost deco for window decorations
[03:24] <z3r0d3rp> dorkvader I went through every wm looking for a replacement to gnome 2... kde does everything  really well
[03:25] <z3r0d3rp> very little cpu overhead and full featured unlike gnome/unity
[03:27] <elGuntor> what did you think of cinnamon?
[03:27] <z3r0d3rp> I like it in lots of ways but dislike others
[03:28] <z3r0d3rp> for 1 it has lots of processor overhead
[03:28] <elGuntor> anything in particular?
[03:28] <phiscribe> anyone a font guru? fonts shouldnt be this bad
[03:28] <z3r0d3rp> phiscribe: make sure you enable antialiasing and that it is set to slight
[03:28] <phiscribe> i have it on medium now
[03:29] <z3r0d3rp> that's your problem
[03:29] <z3r0d3rp> another issue with cinnamon is that it lacks a lot of features
[03:29] <phiscribe> was worse with it turned off, seems i have log out to make it stick
[03:29] <z3r0d3rp> change it to slight then logout and back in
[03:31] <z3r0d3rp> one thing that irritated me to death with cinnamon was that I couldn't replace the panel with awn and disable notification area to use awn as the panel
[03:31] <z3r0d3rp> the cinnamon panel is meh
[03:31] <phiscribe> well they are diffrent now (fonts) maybe the dpi can be changed
[03:32] <z3r0d3rp> I found that the vid card makes a difference
[03:32] <z3r0d3rp> they look great on my nvidia laptop but getting them to look good in intel graphics was a bit harder
[03:34] <z3r0d3rp> but usually AA enabled with rgb subpixel rendering and slight hinting is usually the best
[03:34] <phiscribe> i just dont get if i boot into that other os, they are clear and crisp, i dont think about them, here they are obnoxious and right in your face, alwasy squinting and lifting the bifocals up and down, so it shouldnt be the hardware
[03:34] <z3r0d3rp> ubuntu unity uses different fonts
[03:35] <elGuntor> I just use monospace...looks fine
[03:35] <z3r0d3rp> I can't remember which off the top of my head
[03:35] <phiscribe> maybe if i go to sans or serif or something
[03:35] <z3r0d3rp> kde defaults to ubuntu 9 as the system font
[03:35] <z3r0d3rp> try changing it around
[03:35] <elGuntor> speaking of desktops and wms...did you try e17?
[03:35] <z3r0d3rp> dl helvectica or something
[03:36] <z3r0d3rp> enlightenment?
[03:36] <elGuntor> yep
[03:36] <z3r0d3rp> yeah tried the latest bodhi if that's what you mean
[03:36] <z3r0d3rp> looks pretty good
[03:36] <elGuntor> thoughts?
[03:37] <phiscribe> is there no way to use a completely difrrent rendering system?
[03:37] <z3r0d3rp> it's nice for a minimal install
[03:37] <z3r0d3rp> phiscribe... boot into your other distro... write down the default fonts and change them to match
[03:37] <z3r0d3rp> that is my best advice
[03:38] <phiscribe> well it might be the font, but i think it might be the way they are rendered, ill play with them but i dont think it is the font, its how they are drawn
[03:39] <z3r0d3rp> if you use any setting over slight hinting they will distort
[03:39] <phiscribe> like now in this chat, the words look like they need a shave
[03:41] <z3r0d3rp> I like ubuntu 9 for a notebook it's nice and small, but I would go bigger on a larger monitor
[03:44] <phiscribe> gonna log out again, trying larger dpi
[03:46] <phiscribe> ok going to 120 dpi helped a great deal, less fuzzy words
[03:47] <phiscribe> even if they are a bit large
[03:47] <elGuntor> good =)
[05:16] <Roey> hey all
[05:16] <Roey> again
[05:20] <phiscribe> pretty quite in here Roey
[05:21] <Roey> heya
[05:23] <joesi> Hello, wanted to ask which Samba Version is in 12.04 included? I have problems with accessig a Buffalo TeraStation Network Storage
[05:24] <shashi_kubuntu> Hi. Kubuntu 12.04.  I have installed Google chrome, and dragged that application (copied) to my desktop folder. Initially the application is showing with its Icon, but when i click first time, the Icon is going away, and inplace it is showing questions mark. I explicitly set the Icon, but still Desktop is not showing the icon.
[05:24] <shashi_kubuntu> How to solve this problem ?
[05:31] <phiscribe> if it is installed find it from the kickoff launcher, right click on it, and pick add to desktop if you want and icon, and was it chrome or chromium?
[05:32] <phiscribe> if it was chrome, you had to use the goggle installer thing, not sure it it will put a link in the launcher
[05:35] <shashi_kubuntu> It is Chrome. This problem is with all third part apps. I did the same. From kickoff launcher -> right click -> add to desktop. But when you click first time on the desktop, the Icon go away.
[05:36] <phiscribe> is your desktop set to desktop or search and launch or folder view or news
[05:36] <phiscribe> joesi: the libsmbclient is 2:3.6.3-2ubuntu2 not sure if the server is included
[05:37] <joesi> thanks, I just need the client as the server is the NAS Station
[05:38] <phiscribe> well my mouse pointer just went bonkers, but just on one monitor
[05:39] <shashi_kubuntu> Desktop
[05:39] <phiscribe> i dont knwo what to suggest shashi_kubuntu
[05:40] <phiscribe> ive been using the search and launch interface mostly, so im not as versed in the other mode
[05:48] <phiscribe> shashi_kubuntu: are widgets locked? shortcuts are realy just little widgets in kde i think
[06:13] <unsuccessful> hi
[06:15] <unsuccessful> I have installed KDE,Gnome on Ubuntu. I want to boot and login it in text mode. If i default login interface is lightdm then then text mode work but when it is KDM does not work. Any hint please?
[06:19] <unsuccessful> I get it works somehow but when run "startx" command then it is error "Failed to load session "ubuntu" "
[06:21] <vividh> unsuccessful: how to install KDE and Gnome in Ubuntu??
[06:21] <unsuccessful> vividh, "apt-get install kde-plasma-desktop gnome-shell"
[06:24] <unsuccessful> I want the KDE as default session too.
[06:24] <unsuccessful> vividh, anything wrong?
[06:25] <vividh> unsuccessful: no, nothing's wrong. I was just wondering if it's better to install KDE in ubuntu, or separately install kubuntu...??
[06:25] <unsuccessful> startx is working with lightdm but it is getting Default Ubuntu(Unity). But when i change the kde(dpkg-reconfigure kdm) then it does not work
[06:31] <unsuccessful> vividh, may  it not be problem for multiple sessions ?
[06:34] <unsuccessful> vividh, i actually want Gnome and KDE both
[06:36] <vividh> unsuccessful: ya me too, but I am torn b/w installing KDE in ubuntu, or installing kubuntu separately. I have only recently transitioned from windows to linux. Sorry if I can't help you.
[06:37] <Free_Bullets> well i have a problem. i removed all the colums from the System Activity window, and i don't see a way of re-adding them.
[07:03] <Zenger> Hi guys
[07:03] <Zenger> I've tried to update to the latest ubuntu and my system crashed
[07:04] <Zenger> It didn't finish the install and now I can't install/update anythin
[07:04] <Zenger> the Virtuoso crashes
[07:04] <Zenger> and when doing apt-get install it gives me this error apt-get: error while loading shared libraries: libapt-pkg.so.4.12: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory
[07:06] <Zenger> What can I do to finish the update , or to downgrade, reinstall is not yet an option
[07:09] <vividh> Zenger: have you tried opening the update manager??
[07:09] <Zenger> vividh: it doesn't open, from the menu , from the konsole I don't know the command
[07:10] <vividh> The install can be resumed if all the packages were downloaded successfully...??
[07:10] <vividh> so u cnt open the update manager from Dash??
[07:11] <SunTsu> Zenger: please don't ask in multiple channels at the same time
[07:11] <vividh> Zenger: try this command: "sudo apt-get install -f". Do u get any errors??
[07:12] <Zenger> SunTsu: my system is f*cked up what do you suppose I should do besides asking in both which seem the right channels, Ubuntu is the distro , kubuntu is the wm I'm using I ask in both because I'm not sure where to ask or whom is causing the problem. Thank you.
[07:13] <Zenger> vividh: tried gives apt-get: error while loading shared libraries: libapt-pkg.so.4.12: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory
[07:13] <Zenger> 1 guy in ubuntu suggested reinstalling apt-get
[07:14] <vividh> Zenger: well try that and search the net too....
[07:14] <SunTsu> vividh: he will, because that is what ap-get uses
[07:14] <SunTsu> Zenger: er, be patient for once. You will have a hard time doing what two channels tell you at the same time
[07:15] <SunTsu> Zenger: asking in multiple channels is considered rude
[07:15] <Zenger> SunTsu: I'm sorry
[07:15] <Zenger> for now I'm trying to fix the job with a guy from the ubuntu channe
[07:15] <Zenger> I'm not going to nag you untill I do or don't do the job
[07:15] <vividh> SunTsu: hey, can u help me with this? I just installed KDE and Gnome in Ubuntu. There is a prompt asking me for a default display manager, choose from "kdm" and "lightdm". what does this mean??
[07:15] <Zenger> thank you
[07:17] <SunTsu> vividh: a "Display Manager" is what you see when logging in (*), so it's asking you which one you want kdm, which is KDE's DM, or lightdm, which is ubuntu's default DM
[07:17] <vividh> SunTsu: oh, thanks a lot..:)
[07:17] <SunTsu> Zenger: I'd try reinstalling apt-get, too, using dpkg to do the work
[07:18] <SunTsu> (*) is "Simplified"
[07:20] <SunTsu> What the heck - my KDE task switcher covers 20% of my screen - is it default for sight impaired now?
[07:25] <vividh> Is the session saved if I log out of ubuntu? It won't disrupt any downloads if I pause 'em and resume later??
[07:26] <SunTsu> vividh: what does "logging out of ubuntu" mean? You mean: "Log out of my graphic environment"?
[07:26] <vividh> yes i want to log out and check if Gnome and KDE are installed or not..
[07:27] <SunTsu> vividh: That depends on your graphic environment, it's the one that does session management
[07:28] <SunTsu> vividh: btw. you can check that using xephyr, no need to log out - or you could open another user session
[07:30] <vividh> SunTsu: thanks...
[07:35] <CruX|> hello where can I find sources.list for 12.04 ?
[07:36] <SunTsu> CruX|: please, don't ask in multiple channels
[07:48] <sayakb> claydoh: https://wiki.kubuntu.org/PrecisePangolin/Final/Kubuntu/Feedback is an immutable page, jfyi
[08:22] <illusio> привет =)
[08:48] <emileXXXI> hello!
[08:48] <emileXXXI> little problem here. If someone could help me...
[08:49] <emileXXXI> i have a grey frozen screen at startup! just after grub
[08:54] <B|tchX> How is everyone enjoying kubuntu 12.04?  I installed with 3 different medias and 3 different iso files and the desktop would never load.  It maxed out my 2 gigs of ram and 1.8 cpu
[08:54] <B|tchX> it sux
[08:54] <B|tchX> I'm back on 11.10
[08:55] <emileXXXI> i tryed to install but i have a grey screen
[08:56] <illusio> i whant solve this problem too after work )
[08:59] <asdzxc> hi
[08:59] <asdzxc> how can i set default DNS servers in 12.04? /etc/resolv.conf is always ampty after reboot
[08:59] <asdzxc> *empty
[09:13]  * B|tchX feels sorry for us
[09:50] <username> Hi
[09:50] <username> testing
[09:51] <username> any thing else?
[09:55] <username> hey guys
[09:55] <username> say something
[09:56] <username> Hi, everybody
[09:57] <luc4> Hi! I'm trying to update a kubuntu system from 11.10 to 12.04 but I get the response "No new release found". Is this a known issue?
[10:10] <username> hye luc4 you cannot do that!
[10:10] <username> format it
[10:11] <username> test
[10:12] <username> hi max_sme
[10:12] <username> welcome to kubuntu free irc
[10:13] <jussi> username: please dont tell wrong things to people
[10:13] <jussi> luc4: there was an issue iirc
[10:15] <luc4> jussi: nevermind, I just found out that for some reason only LTS was selected. I don't know, I must have selected in the past by accident.
[10:15] <jussi> luc4: yeah, that was the issue iirc, was just trying to find documentation to explain it :D
[10:17] <luc4> jussi: thanks for the help
[10:24] <PasNox> i'm running kubuntu oneiric 64 bits edition with kde backport etc - kde sc 4.8.1
[10:24] <PasNox> why the package manager does not inform me about the new kubuntu release ?
[10:35] <luc4> Hi! Anybody who knows why kde applications on ubuntu print all that output logs? That is quite uncomfortable.
[10:41] <jussi> luc4: output logs?
[10:42] <luc4> jussi: yes, if I run from the console, which I do quite often, I get my console full of output logs.
[10:42] <jussi> luc4: just run with a "&" after the command
[10:44] <luc4> jussi: that just detaches the process. Output is written anyway. I can get rid of the output redirecting to /dev/null. But my question is why kde applications do this and non-kde applications in ubuntu do not?
[10:44] <jussi> luc4: oh, not sure about that.
[10:44] <BluesKaj> Hey all
[10:45] <xieyi> I met a problem. I found a mysqld process by ps. but can't get status of the mysql process through sudo service mysql status. Neither can I login the mysql database through mysql. This problem occurred after I upgrade to 12.04. How can I fix it?
[10:45] <georgelappies> hi BluesKaj
[10:45] <BluesKaj> hi georgelappies
[10:45] <luc4> jussi: I noticed this. It is uncomfortable to have to write "dolphin . &> /dev/null &" everytime instead of just "dolphin . &" like I did with gtk applications.
[10:51] <yofel> luc4: the level of debug output can be controlled with kdebugdialog, but I don't know if that'll turn everything of
[10:52] <PasNox> nobody know why muon package manager does not propose me the system upgrade for the new kubuntu ??
[10:53] <luc4> yofel: wow!
[10:53] <luc4> yofel: I'm checking but anyway it seems to print far less debug output! Thanks!
[10:53] <jussi> PasNox: ask luc4 :P
[10:53] <luc4> jussi: :-D
[10:54] <jussi> luc4: please explain what you did ;)
[10:54] <luc4> PasNox: check the Software Management in the KDE settings.
[10:55] <PasNox> ok, currently i jsut started the package muon manager, it'sz tru i don't tried the softaware muon manager
[10:55] <PasNox> let try !
[10:55] <georgelappies> does kubuntu have an active forum of its own or is it only the www.ubuntuforum.org site?
[10:55] <luc4> PasNox: go to the settings clicking on the icon in the upper right corner. Then Software origins.
[10:57] <PasNox> it's already on 'only LTS' version
[10:57] <PasNox> :/
[10:57] <PasNox> but no upgrade proposed
[10:57] <luc4> PasNox: exactly.
[10:57] <PasNox> ?
[10:57] <luc4> PasNox: turn to normal releases.
[10:57] <PasNox> done
[10:57] <luc4> Then update all the sources.
[10:57] <PasNox> nothing special appear :)
[10:58] <PasNox> i can't
[10:58] <luc4> The notification should appear shortly.
[10:58] <PasNox> there is no updage button like in the package manager
[10:58] <luc4> PasNox: click close there.
[10:58] <luc4> PasNox: then click back in the upper left corner.
[10:58] <PasNox> restarted the app - but nothin
[10:59] <PasNox> i should inform that i'm using muon ppa, so i'm using very recent muon
[10:59] <PasNox> duno if it will works with that ?
[10:59] <luc4> PasNox: have you checked for new updates?
[10:59] <luc4> PasNox: have you installed all the available updates first?
[10:59] <PasNox> yes, in the package maanger i done it, 5 minutes ago
[10:59] <georgelappies> basically I want to start to poll on which theme kubuntu users prefer, personally I think the default color scheme with oxygen theme rocks, I especialy like the edges around the large popup tooltips. Looks like some glossy powder coated metal plate with the paint coming of arouns the corners and edges, very cool
[10:59] <PasNox> yes, i'm up to date
[11:00] <luc4> PasNox: check the new setting was saved.
[11:00] <PasNox> they are
[11:00] <PasNox> check for update are setted on weekly check
[11:00] <PasNox> i will restart package manager and click update button
[11:00] <luc4> PasNox: try from the console do-release-upgrade -m desktop -f kde -d.
[11:00] <jussi> georgelappies: Ive seen this: http://kubuntuforums.com/
[11:01] <luc4> PasNox: shouldn't be necessary but just to see what happens.
[11:02] <PasNox> with the dot at end ?
[11:02] <luc4> PasNox: no, that was for the sentence.
[11:02] <jussi> georgelappies: although I think http://kde-look.org/ is a better place for that - they have forums there also
[11:02] <PasNox> the upgrade windows shown and start doing it's job.
[11:03] <georgelappies> cool thanks jussi, Will look into it :)
[11:04] <luc4> PasNox: then ok, I don't know why the notification didn't arrive.
[11:04] <jussi> georgelappies: yw
[11:04] <PasNox> luc4: ok, no problem! thans
[11:04] <PasNox> luc4: btw i was concerning with a wifi bug using the driver r8712u
[11:05] <PasNox> network manager say i'm connected but in reality the connection is broken
[11:05] <PasNox> so i need often unconnect / reconnect wifi
[11:05] <PasNox> does it's fixed in thi release ?
[11:05] <luc4> PasNox: I'm sorry, don't know about that driver. You'll have to hope :-)
[11:05] <PasNox> ok
[11:05] <PasNox> fuck
[11:05] <PasNox> anyway i can't upgrade
[11:05] <FloodBotK1> PasNox: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[11:06] <PasNox> the /var partition does not have enought space for downloading all the package ...
[11:06] <oCean> PasNox: control your language here, please
[11:06] <PasNox> FloodBotK1: flood me ?
[11:06] <PasNox> oCean: ok.
[11:06] <luc4> PasNox: I had that problem as well. You'll have to find it :-)
[11:06] <PasNox> is there anything i can change so the package are copieds in another place where i have suffisant space ?
[11:07] <PasNox> damn xD
[11:07] <PasNox> let try to temporary symlink the folder to another place :)
[11:09] <luc4> PasNox: you can also remount maybe.
[11:09] <PasNox> luc4: do u know where are stocked the downloaded packages ?
[11:10] <luc4> PasNox: maybe /var/cache/apt
[11:10] <PasNox> ok
[11:11] <natman> i am having a problem with my laptop screen going dark when the log in page appears, normal brightness comes back when desktop comes up, problem is solved by manually pressing the increase brightness button
[11:13] <mib12345f> i need help on kubuntu 12.4 the windows no work after upgrade
[11:20] <PasNox> symlink create for /var/cache/apt and all seems working fine now !
[11:20] <PasNox> thank u
[11:21] <PasNox> just hope i will not lost the connection when the packages download ... :)
[11:21] <alee__> test irc
[11:22] <PasNox> test failed.
[11:22] <alee__> hahaha
[11:22] <alee__> hi bro
[11:24] <PasNox> alee__: u don't need to speak with me in private, u can test irc on the channel :)
[11:25] <alee__> okay
[11:25] <xieyi> I can't start mysql 5.5 in Kubuntu 12.04 through "sudo service mysql start" but can manually start it through "/usr/sbin/mysqld --defaults-file=/etc/mysql/my.cnf --datadir=/var/lib/mysql/ --socket=/var/run/mysqld/mysqld.sock". How to setup mysql to enable control of mysql by kubuntu?
[11:26] <alee__> hey, how to close private chat?
[11:34] <BluesKaj> wth was he trying to do?
[11:37] <detrix> Hello, I just installed Kubuntu, 12.04. Problem: hard drive was partitioned, to have root, and home directories separate. I wanted to just use the home directory that was there. my accont user name is detrix, but for some reason kde main menu, under computer shows my home directory as /home/adam    I do not know where that came from, and I can't seem to change it. I checked passwd, and it is set correctly there. I do not know what
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[11:56] <Durion> ok so i'm trying to run wizard101 on my comuter and it says i need 6 GB of free space. the game runs but is very laggy. in the kinfo center it says i have 992 mib total physical memory. i have a 149.1 GB hard drive and in the partition manager it says i have 57.84GB unallocated memory. is ther something that i can do to fix the problem?
[11:59] <ihipop> kde in ubuntu 12.04 LTS is so damn Good~
[12:06] <Durion> ok so i'm trying to run wizard101 on my comuter and it says i need 6 GB of free space. the game runs but is very laggy. in the kinfo center it says i have 992 mib total physical memory. i have a 149.1 GB hard drive and in the partition manager it says i have 57.84GB unallocated memory. is ther something that i can do to fix the problem?
[12:12] <realsilverscreen> hi all. i downloaded kubuntu 1204 64bit and 32bit. both hang on first boot after fresh install (but i can move mouse). my sys spec: intel i7 975, nvidia gtx580, ocz ssd, 6gb ram.
[12:45] <luke_66> hi everyone
[12:51] <luke_66> i'm having problems with 12.04 and nvidia proprietary drivers: i've removed nouveau driver by apt-get --purge remove xserver-xorg-video-nouveau, then i reinstalled nvidia drivers by apt-get install nvidia-current. then i generated xorg.conf by nvidia-xconfig, but restarting X i got only a session on which i can't go over 640x480px (and Additional Drivers from System menu seems to say that there's no proprietary driver i
[12:51] <luke_66> n use). what i can do?
[12:52] <BluesKaj> luke_66, did you stop kdm and install the driver at the tty ?
[12:53] <luke_66> BluesKaj, no, but i've tryed to reboot and i got the same result
[12:55] <BluesKaj> luke_66, here's a procedure that works  http://paste.ubuntu.com/952352/ ..you have to stop kdm in order to install nvidia-current or any other graphics driver
[12:56] <luke_66> BluesKaj, tnx i'll give it a try
[12:58] <luke_66> BluesKaj, so this is exactly what i've done several times. the difference seems to be here there's no X, only command line. Maybe it influence the correct xorg.conf generation
[12:59] <BluesKaj> luke_66, did you stop kdem before installing at the tty , that's important. the driver will appear to install but fails if kdm is running
[12:59] <BluesKaj> err kdm
[13:00] <luke_66> ok
[13:00] <luke_66> tnx
[13:05] <systemclient> Where did the column view in Dolphin go?
[13:17] <luke_66> BluesKaj, i've tried your solution but i got the same result: max screen resolution 640x480. the problem seems to be my laptop: Dell XPS l502x
[13:18] <BluesKaj> have you checked in kmenu>settings>nvidia server settings , luke_66
[13:20] <luke_66> it say 'You do not appear to be using the NVIDIA X driver.  Please edit your X configuration file (just run `nvidia-xconfig` as root), and restart the X server.'
[13:22] <BluesKaj> systemclient, I think column view was dropped in 12.04
[13:22] <systemclient> BluesKaj: awesome … that should be in the release notes …
[13:23] <systemclient> and is there an easy way to get rid of that nasty plymouth screen?
[13:24] <BluesKaj> luke_66, drop to a tty , then stopx , sudo nvidia-xconfig , then startx
[13:25] <yofel> someone tell him to check in /var/log/Xorg.0.log which driver is actually being used when he comes back
[13:35] <BluesKaj> yofel, I suspect he was try to install the driver with both kdm and X running , assuming stopping kdm stops X as well
[13:36] <yofel> it does, switching from nouveau to nvidia requires a reboot though
[13:38] <BluesKaj> yes . I guess I should have mentioned that , but I don't recall rebooting to make it work
[13:42] <Bestiomannaro> hi all
[14:07] <hoped> hi
[14:08] <hoped> KDE can't mount USB device
[14:08] <hoped> what is the problem ? help me please?
[14:09] <BluesKaj> hoped, what kind of USB device ?
[14:10] <hoped> BluesKaj, I was attached Pendrive , Mobile Memory card
[14:11] <BluesKaj> it doesn't show in dolphin places ?
[14:13] <hoped> I have tried to open in konqueror , I see it attached but when i clicked it does not mount ....
[14:16] <BluesKaj> hoped, try dolphin
[14:18] <hoped> BluesKaj, Ah it can't mount any other Partition too .... Do i need to root? I tried with dolphin
[14:20] <BluesKaj> hoped, try the system tray , notifications
[14:21] <hoped> Yeah tried....from the Panel
[14:22] <hoped> BluesKaj, It worked after logged in as root
[14:22] <BluesKaj> kdesudo dolphin ?
[14:23] <hoped> Now working Konqu and dolphin both
[14:24] <BluesKaj> then you better set your permissions up in user management
[14:24] <hoped> Perhaps user permission?
[14:27] <hoped> Which is the user management  GUI tool ? i am confused with new KDE
[14:29] <georgelappies> hoped, kuser still works for me
[14:31] <georgelappies> although it might be better using "User manager" in system settings
[14:32] <BluesKaj> hoped, kmenu>computer>systemsettings>user management
[14:47] <Guest66328> anyone update to 12.04 yet
[14:47] <hoped> me ubuntu 1204
[14:50]  * DorkVader is
[14:50] <DorkVader> 12.04 is the only way to fly
[14:51] <garou> !help
[14:51] <garou> Hi, who can I re-run the KGpg Assistent again? sudo dpkg-reconfigure kgpg don't works
[14:52] <garou> I tried sudo apt-get purge kgpg but this is a huge problem. My apt-get was removed and didn't work, but I installed manually now and it works. But, what I can do about the KGpg?
[14:54] <Balinares> Hi, friends. I'm not getting the 'new release' notification even after updating, upgrading and rebooting, and trying different mirrors. Are some mirrors behind?
[14:54] <BluesKaj> garou, sudo apt-get install kgpg
[14:55] <garou> Blue, it was installed but the option generate key pair fails
[14:55] <BluesKaj> Balinares, did you run an upgrade?
[14:55] <Balinares> BluesKaj: Yup.
[14:55] <Balinares> BTW: I'm on 11.10.
[14:55] <garou> and I think is because I interrupted the assistant before
[14:56] <BluesKaj> Balinares, some repos are behind , sudo do-release-upgrade -d worked for some ppl today
[14:57] <Balinares> BluesKaj: Oh, so it's a known issue then. NP, then, there's no hurry; I just wanted to make sure there was not a problem with my setup. Thanks. :)
[14:58] <BluesKaj> Balinares, some update managers aren't notifying properly as well , also run a dist-upgrade just to make sure
[14:59] <Balinares> BluesKaj: Hmm... Nope, didn't change anything.
[15:01] <BluesKaj> Balinares, what about sudo do-release-upgrade -d , does it give you the option to upgrade to 12.04
[15:01] <Balinares> BluesKaj: Nope, "No new release found".
[15:01] <garou> I had installed the kgpg again, and it "works" but appears the follow error when try to generate a key par:  gpg: -:2: invalid algorithm , gpg: -:9: missing colon
[15:02] <BluesKaj> Balinares, what about sudo do-release-upgrade
[15:02] <Balinares> BluesKaj: Same result.
[15:02] <BluesKaj> hmm, not good
[15:03] <garou> I selectioned 1024 for the size key and choose the algorithm to DSA & El-Gamal
[15:03] <Balinares> BluesKaj: Must be a laggy mirror, then. I imagine they're still all receiving a severe pounding.
[15:03] <BluesKaj> open the update manager and make sure the notification is set  to normal
[15:04] <Balinares> That's muon-updater, right?
[15:05] <BluesKaj> yes
[15:05] <Balinares> Notifications are activated, yes. But I imagine that if even aptitude doesn't reprort anything to update then it can't be muon's fault.
[15:05] <BluesKaj> Balinares, laggy mirrors or not, you should still receive a notifier that a new release is available
[15:06] <Balinares> Ah, really? Well, darn.
[15:06] <BluesKaj> are you using aptitude ?
[15:06] <Balinares> Yup.
[15:06] <Balinares> Err, BRB. (Baby crying.)
[15:07] <BluesKaj> it's no longer supported , use apt-get ...some of the dependencies still need to be updated upgrade I bet , use apt-get to do so
[15:07] <BluesKaj> Balinares,^
[15:10] <PasNox> I have upgraded my oneiric now nepomuk is no longer working - missing virtuoso or related stuff ...
[15:12] <Balinares> Back.
[15:12] <BluesKaj> Balinares, read my post above
[15:12] <Balinares> I saw it, thanks. :)
[15:12] <PasNox> and why the hell the 64bits edition install so much i386 packages ? xD
[15:13] <PasNox> if i want i386 os i download the i386 version ... :/
[15:13] <Balinares> Aaand... Darn. Nope, same thing.
[15:13] <BluesKaj> PasNox, thai isn't the place to complain ..try #'kubuntu-devel
[15:14] <PasNox> BluesKaj: it's at all not related to devel, but related to packaging
[15:14] <BluesKaj> Balinares, did you use apt-get
[15:14] <PasNox> no ?
[15:14] <Balinares> BluesKaj: Yes.
[15:14] <Balinares> I didn't know there was a problem with aptitude. :/
[15:15] <BluesKaj> Balinares, also run apt-get dist-upgarde again
[15:15] <BluesKaj> err upgrade
[15:15] <Balinares> Yes, I did. Same thing.
[15:16] <BluesKaj> bummer
[15:16] <Balinares> Could one of the PPA I've installed messed with the release recognition system?
[15:16] <georgelappies> if you have a dolphin window open and it is at the bottom of the screen and you click on the spanner icon "Configure and control dolphin" the menu list that comes up doesn't allow you to scroll to it's top. You have to move the dolphin window higher up in the screen bfore clicking on it. Is this a known bug?
[15:17] <PasNox> ok it seem the muon distrib updater crashed before the end of the upgrade
[15:18] <garou> I had fixed. Needed change a parameter in the settings to gpg2 instead gpg thx.
[15:19] <PasNox> the upgrade fails, sudo apt-get dist-upgrade don't want to continue, sudo dpkg --configure a fails to fix the pending updates
[15:19] <PasNox> what i do now ?
[15:19] <PasNox> format and change distrib ? each major upgrade is same problems :'(
[15:20] <Balinares> BluesKaj: Can I 'reset' my sources.list and associated PPAs? This box has seen so many releases year after year, cruft has got to have accumulated...
[15:22] <BluesKaj> Balinares, it's possible that will help , unno for sure
[15:23] <Balinares> Aaaand... no luck.
[15:23] <Balinares> Well, damn.
[15:26] <BluesKaj> Balinares, I haven't used muon in the last few releases , I usually purge it and install synaptic ...a notifier is totally unecessary in my case and I haven't encountered any blocked releases due to bugs
[15:26] <Balinares> BluesKaj: Oh, I don't usually use muon either. I just want some way to upgrade. :/
[15:29] <Sentynel> Balinares: you might have checked this already, but try opening the software sources dialogue, going to the updates tab, and ensuring "release upgrade" is set to "normal releases"
[15:29] <Sentynel> mine had reset itself to LTS only for some reason and was refusing to update
[15:29] <Sentynel> as soon as I set it to normal releases, do-release-upgrade worked properly
[15:29] <Balinares> Sentynel: I did check, thanks. It had indeed reset to LTS, I changed it back, it didn't correct the problem.
[15:30] <Balinares> And WAIT.
[15:30] <Balinares> I think we have success.
[15:30] <Balinares> I just purged muon* and tried do-release-upgrade again.
[15:30] <Balinares> It now seems to be working.
[15:30] <BluesKaj> Balinares, I'm not allowed to advise ppl to uninstall packages or even purge them ...but you did the right thing
[15:31] <BluesKaj> :)
[15:31] <Balinares> :D
[15:32] <BluesKaj> this problem has become quite large here the last 2 days and it's getting rather tiresome for me at least
[15:32] <Balinares> I had no idea muon was obsolete. I don't think I know what the 'official' package management GUI for Kubuntu is, these days.
[15:32] <Belial`> is anyone here using icontasks? when i click on an icon that's already open to minimize the app, once it minimizes, the app immediately shows back up on screen. how do i prevent this from happening?
[15:32] <Belial`> using kubuntu 12.04
[15:33] <BluesKaj> muon isn't obsolete , it's just buggy
[15:33] <PasNox> muon is not bugguy, it's kubuntu
[15:33] <PasNox> xD
[15:33] <Balinares> So the correct one is Synaptic, now, right?
[15:33] <BluesKaj> PasNox, i disagree , read above
[15:33] <PasNox> i now understand why canonical stopped kubuntu investissement, it's useless
[15:34] <PasNox> always buggy, always major upgrade problems
[15:34] <johnvelasquez> i need help
[15:34] <BluesKaj> PasNox, go troll some where else please
[15:34] <PasNox> always problems
[15:34] <PasNox> it's not troll, it's jsut verity
[15:34] <PasNox> started the upgrade tool now i got broken os.
[15:34] <DorkVader> sorry to jump in on the conversation, is muon not a "recommended" package management tool then?  Should I just stick with aptitude?
[15:34] <Balinares> Sometimes I wish there was a way to automatically remove packages that were only installed because the distro thought it was a good idea back then.
[15:35] <PasNox> sure i will repair it, but i choose kubuntu for easy and no problem i got the contrary :/
[15:35] <BluesKaj> DorkVader, aptitude is longer supported , use apt-get apper or syanaptic
[15:35] <Balinares> PasNox: Never seen a Linux distro that always upgraded without problems. If you find one, please let me know. :/
[15:36] <PasNox> hehe
[15:36] <PasNox> kindly correct but...
[15:38] <BluesKaj> virtuoso has become a pita and kmail is still segfaulting ..those are some of my "issues"
[15:38] <Balinares> BluesKaj: A question about apt-get. I switched to aptitude several years ago because back then, it automatically marked dependencies as autoinstalled, and apt-get didn't. (Also its dependency solver worked better.) Did apt-get since catch up?
[15:38] <Balinares> If it did I'll just do away with aptitude.
[15:38] <DorkVader> BluesKaj: ah, no aptitude, ok, that is good to know.  synaptic is a gtk app?
[15:38] <BluesKaj> yes and surpassed aptitude in terms of handling dependencies as well
[15:39] <Balinares> Well, that's GOOD to know. So long, aptitude.
[15:39] <BluesKaj> yes , but what a few gtk libs ...we can liuve with it since it's so superior IMO
[15:40] <BluesKaj> what's a few gtl libs
[15:41] <BluesKaj> anyway muon is supposedly fixed after the 12.04 upgrade ...but I'll wait and see
[15:41] <DorkVader>  any suggestions as to what I should install to test my opengl/nvidia gpu?  It is a GT240 w/512 MB ram... I would like to give it a stress test to make sure that the drivers are working properly
[15:41] <DorkVader> BluesKaj: should I uninstall aptitude then as well?
[15:42] <BluesKaj> DorkVader, that's your call
[15:43] <Balinares> BluesKaj: More apt-get questions. What would the equivalent of "aptitude why <package>" be?
[15:43] <BluesKaj> Balinares, dunno , never used it
[15:44] <Balinares> It's a command that tells you why a package is on the system (what depends on it, basically).
[15:46] <anathema_> hi i have upgraded to 12.04 and i have this erron on startup: "the application KnetAttach has closed unexpectedly"
[15:51] <Balinares> Ok, made some room, upgrade started. Thank you, BluesKaj, you've been very helpful!!
[15:51] <BluesKaj> apt-cache depends <package_name> ,Balinares,
[15:52] <Balinares> Did I say 'very helpful'? I meant 'AWESOMELY helpful'. :)
[15:52] <DorkVader> I am finding konverssation difficult to read
[15:52] <Balinares> Ok, upgrade in progress. I'll be going, now. Thanks again, take care!
[15:54] <RexHaviK> how can i get the 12.04 kde updates on 11.10 before they hit 'backports'??
[15:55] <RexHaviK> or is it a waste since kde 4.8 is at current ?
[16:00] <BluesKaj> RexHaviK, its still 4.8.2
[16:02] <RexHaviK> BluesKaj, got you, thnks
[16:11] <DorkVader> has anyone here ever played with setting the QT rendering engine between raster/opengl?
[16:35] <RexHaviK> has kde 4.8 been know to have a bug in the power-management setting 'power-button set to suspend' but shuts down instead?
[16:37] <RexHaviK> setting and re-setting via gui does not change it, hit power button and it shuts down, regarless of the actual set
[16:41] <xskydevilx> Does anyone know how to get the Ubuntu cursors in Kubuntu?
[16:57] <DorkVader> yo, how do people usually install the QT SDK in kubuntu?  with a deb?  or download from nokia directly?
[16:59] <georgelappies> DorkVader: you referring to the complete SDK and not just QtCreator?
[16:59] <DorkVader> that is correct
[17:02] <georgelappies> I install the complete SDK only in my home directory under ~/opt
[17:02] <DorkVader> yeah, that is probably what I will do
[17:03] <georgelappies> and it is the download from nokia
[17:13] <Watcher> Can someone tell me why some video just don't play on Firefox but will play on Chrome? Other videos play fine on Firefox.
[17:17] <PasNox> which command i should run to remove all dummy transitional packages please ?
[17:23] <DorkVader> should I be hesitant to use kde wallet?
[17:28] <georgelappies> DorkVader: What do you mean? security wise?
[17:29] <DorkVader> yeah
[17:29] <DorkVader> it just seems scary to me
[17:34] <mozzdroid> is there a way to turn off the 12.04LTS update in kubuntu 11?
[17:34] <mozzdroid> 11.10 Apper program
[17:35] <mozzdroid> would updating actually be safe to perform?
[17:36] <EvilResistance> mozzdroid, you could just ignore upgrade notices.
[17:36] <EvilResistance> and whenever you upgrade anything in place, you run the risk of things dying
[17:36] <EvilResistance> (or breaking)
[17:38] <georgelappies> DorkVader: well I never had an issue with itso far :)
[17:38] <mozzdroid> ya
[17:38] <mozzdroid> wonderin
[17:39] <mozzdroid> is there a way to turn it off to avoid it
[17:40] <z3r0d3rp> anyone know why my 11.10 machine isn't seeing the release upgrade?
[17:41] <PasNox> mozzdroid: it was not for me, i lost all my day .
[17:41] <mozzdroid> ive installed kubuntu 11.10 on a friends pc months ago
[17:41] <mozzdroid> dont want him to break the install
[17:42] <mozzdroid> he says the update keeps comming up
[17:42] <PasNox> is there a way to remove transitional / i386 package on a 64bit kubuntu ?
[17:42] <PasNox> he can ignore it, and remove notification from sources list manager
[17:42] <z3r0d3rp> mozzdroid: I can't get my computer to see the update
[17:42] <z3r0d3rp> also you can get it to stop asking by changing the update settings
[17:42] <mozzdroid> list manager?
[17:42] <mozzdroid> how do i access that
[17:43] <z3r0d3rp> muon package manager > preferences > show upgrades - never
[17:43] <mozzdroid> it be cool just to turn that one OFF
[17:43] <z3r0d3rp> *sho release upgrades
[17:43] <mozzdroid> muon ok
[17:43] <z3r0d3rp> my problem is the opposite
[17:43] <z3r0d3rp> my computer won't see the update
[17:43] <z3r0d3rp> and I want to upgrade
[17:44] <mozzdroid> apper will stop displaying also after that?
[17:44] <mozzdroid> and will he continue with 11.10 updates?
[17:45] <PasNox> z3r0d3rp: i did not see the notice too, i had to run a command given by someone here
[17:45] <mozzdroid> lol
[17:45] <z3r0d3rp> you don't happen to know what it was?
[17:45] <mozzdroid> wish he wasnt seeing it
[17:45] <PasNox> let me check the console log
[17:45] <z3r0d3rp> I tried sudo do-release-upgrade
[17:45] <z3r0d3rp> but it doesn't see it
[17:45] <PasNox> do-release-upgrade -m desktop -f kde -d
[17:45] <mozzdroid> it could and probly will break things
[17:46] <z3r0d3rp> naw it's a new install
[17:46] <z3r0d3rp> less than a week old
[17:46] <PasNox> good luck.
[17:46] <mozzdroid> if its new install id just download latest iso
[17:46] <PasNox> the installer crashed in the middle of the process and leave me alon ;)
[17:46] <PasNox> i lsot all my day ;)
[17:46] <z3r0d3rp> well I have about 6 hours of configurations in
[17:47] <mozzdroid> ooh darn
[17:47] <z3r0d3rp> so I don't want to do those all over again
[17:47] <PasNox> my guess is if u jsut installed it
[17:48] <PasNox> dl the last iso and format / install
[17:48] <PasNox> will be a lto quicker than network upgrade
[17:48] <PasNox> which is somewhat buggy
[17:48] <z3r0d3rp> I don't want to lose my hours and hours of configurations
[17:48] <PasNox> ah
[17:48] <PasNox> then dunno ;)
[17:49] <z3r0d3rp> also I installed on an encrypted lvm
[17:49] <z3r0d3rp> and upgrade isn't available on the alternate cd
[18:01] <DorkVader> yo, so how do I get that folder square on the desktop again?  I closed it
[18:05] <Peace-> DorkVader: just right click on desktop
[18:05] <Peace-> DorkVader: add widgets
[18:05] <Peace-> folder view
[18:06] <DorkVader> a'ight, thanks
[18:09] <DorkVader> can you copy shortcuts to applications in this desktop folder?
[18:10] <Peace-> DorkVader: ?
[18:10] <DorkVader> ah, you can make links to applications from within Dolphin, I got it now
[18:10] <Peace-> DorkVader: just drag and drop
[18:11] <Peace-> ?
[18:13] <DorkVader> ah, thanks
[18:16] <sto4aluck_> why my CPU is so hard loaded if I use  firefox or chromium, can I do something
[18:17] <DorkVader> Anyone know of a KDE hg/mercurial tool with some level of dolphin integration?
[18:18] <sto4aluck_> why my CPU is so hard loaded if I use firefox or chromium, can I do something? It goes up to 98-99%!!!
[18:18] <Peace-> DorkVader: sure
[18:18] <Peace-> DorkVader: dolphin can handle mercurial installin stuff
[18:19] <DorkVader> Peace-: Cool.  So one would clone the repository from the command line first?
[18:19] <Peace-> DorkVader: i use git for example here http://simplest-image-hosting.net/png-0-w14375
[18:19] <Peace-> mm let me check
[18:20] <Peace-> DorkVader: should be this kdesdk-dolphin-plugins
[18:20] <Peace-> DorkVader: yes it is
[18:20] <Peace-> ù
[18:21] <DorkVader> Peace-: Cool, thanks, installing that package now
[18:21] <DorkVader> sto4aluck_: probably a plugin gone haywire...
[18:23] <sto4aluck_> DorkVader: Can you give me an advise what to do, please?
[18:23] <DorkVader> sto4aluck_: no idea.  make sure you are running the latest chrome adn firefoxes?  disable any plugins you have.  Does the usage shootup right when you launch the browsers?  or only when you go to specific sites?
[18:24] <sto4aluck_> DorkVader: yeah, it goes high up to 98-99% as soon as I load firefox or chromium
[18:25] <DorkVader> sto4aluck_: uninstall and re-install perhaps?
[18:25] <sto4aluck_> DorkVader: I am using flash-plugin 11
[18:25] <DorkVader> sto4aluck_: make sure you have the latest versions
[18:26] <sto4aluck_> DorkVader: what to reinstall!?! the whole system or the browsers?
[18:26] <DorkVader> sto4aluck_: browsers
[18:27] <DorkVader> sto4aluck_: or try other things first... disable plugins, update, look at the output of the console when you run them, etc
[18:27] <Peace-> sto4aluck_: system monitor
[18:27] <Peace-> sto4aluck_: see if the plugin is the bastard
[18:28] <sto4aluck_> DorkVader: OK, thanks! See you soon after I do it
[18:28] <sto4aluck_> DorkVader: I alredy checked it is the bastard :D
[18:29] <Peace-> plugin container?
[18:29] <sto4aluck_> DorkVader: What about if I install through the flash plugin installer?
[18:30] <DorkVader> I dunno, try it
[18:30] <sto4aluck_> When I kill the pluging prices it goes to 4-6%
[18:31] <sto4aluck_> DorkVader: It is not only that problem it loads my CPU  too if I play VLC
[18:32] <Peace-> sto4aluck_: try this ffplay yourvideo
[18:32] <sto4aluck_> DorkVader: May be wrong pluggings
[18:32] <sto4aluck_> Peace-: Thanks, wait to call you soon
[18:32] <Peace-> disable everyplugin
[18:34] <sto4aluck_> Peace-: If I disable all plugings ther won't be a video and sound
[18:34] <sto4aluck_> I need the plugings but a light onesnot to load my CPU so hard
[18:36] <z3r0d3rp> protip: adobe removed gpu support in the latest flash plugin
[18:36] <z3r0d3rp> try installing an older version and enabling gpu support
[18:37] <sto4aluck_> z3r0d3rp: what exactly have to do?
[18:38] <z3r0d3rp> It's dangerous to go out alone... take this
[18:38] <z3r0d3rp> https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/addon/flash-aid/
[18:39] <z3r0d3rp> this will let you find and install different versions of flash
[18:39] <z3r0d3rp> really helps if you have a 64 bit system
[18:41] <sto4aluck_> z3r0d3rp: no I am on 32bit, thanks, let me check it
[18:42] <z3r0d3rp> another thing sto4aluck_
[18:42] <z3r0d3rp> make sure you run jockey-gtk and install graphic drivers
[18:42] <z3r0d3rp> if you haven't, that could be why your cpu is being worked hard
[18:43] <garou> Please help. Kleopatra,KMail, GPG, Signing messages.  I'm trying sign messages with Cleopatra or Kmail but not working.
[18:43] <garou> Looks like there is a problem relationated with gpg-agent and pinentry/pinentry-qt4. I searched several pages but not solved yet. I appreciate help. Thx.
[18:43] <z3r0d3rp> alt - F2  type jockey
[18:43] <sto4aluck_> z3r0d3rp: thanks!
[18:45] <sto4aluck_> z3r0d3rp: it wasn't installed, now I'll check it out
[18:51] <garou> Please help. Kleopatra,KMail, GPG, Signing messages. I'm trying sign messages with Cleopatra or Kmail but not working.
[18:51] <garou> Looks like there is a problem relationated with gpg-agent and pinentry/pinentry-qt4. I searched several pages but not solved yet. I appreciate help. Thx.
[18:51] <garou> The error says, bad passfrase
[18:56] <sto4aluck_> z3r0d3rp: No proprietary drivers in use, what to do?
[19:04] <DorkVader> Yo, I have disabled the +/- selection icons in dolphin.  how do I select files by clicking them without opening them?
[19:09] <BluesKaj> DorkVader, right click
[19:09] <JontheEchidna> ctrl + click
[19:09] <DorkVader> ah , I see, thanks
[19:10] <DorkVader> how does one get the hardware temperature monitor widget to work?  I am assuming some sort of sensor package must be installed?
[19:10] <BluesKaj> your assumption is correct
[19:11] <DorkVader> it appears to be lm-sensors package.  I've installed it, does it require a reboot or anything?  the hardware temp is not showing any sensors
[19:15] <qbit> lm-sensors has a config script iirc called sensors-detect, when you run that I believe it configs it and pokes in the module
[19:16] <qbit> not sure if reboot is actually required or not
[19:22] <DorkVader> qbit: ok, thanks... haven't been able to get it, goign to try a reboot
[19:58] <maks_> ух них
[19:59] <maks_> ппц народу
[20:02] <Roey> hey all
[20:02] <Roey> wacom intuos5 doesn't work out of the box with Pangolin??
[20:27] <hanasaki> on a 64bit install why would this url show in aptitude update? Hit http://mirrors.cs.wmich.edu precise-updates/main i386 Packages
[20:30] <JontheEchidna> 32-bit packages can now be installed on 64-bit machines
[20:30] <shallwe> hi guys
[20:31] <shallwe> someone here have problem with yahoo mail account in kontact?
[20:31] <shallwe> i got error on send mail
[20:31] <shallwe> "From address not verified"
[20:32] <shallwe> but i can receive all
[20:40] <chelopapo> hola
[21:07] <DorkVader> Does anyone else find kmail pretty much unusable?
[21:08] <BluesKaj> DorkVader, it's working here with a few issues
[21:10] <DorkVader> I am fighting with it to display emails
[21:10] <BluesKaj> the delete action doesn't work and transfers cause a segfault
[21:11] <hanasaki> JontheEchidna:  thanks ... how did that come about?  I would prefer to stick to only 64 bits
[21:11] <JontheEchidna> some packages are 32-bit only
[21:13] <BluesKaj> arch support is supposed work in the interim I guess
[21:14] <JontheEchidna> skype is a good example
[21:16] <BluesKaj> JontheEchidna, well, skype maybe a dying app , MS bought the company and ppl wonder how long linux support going to last
[21:16] <JontheEchidna> it's not the only one
[21:16] <JontheEchidna> zsnes is another
[21:16] <DorkVader>  isn't skype for linux just wrapped up in wine?  or was that a different app I am thinking of
[21:16] <JontheEchidna> nope, Skype's a native Qt app in linux
[21:17] <JontheEchidna> Google was shipping some app wrapped in wine, but I forget which
[21:19] <BluesKaj> actually google talk works quite well from all reports. I haven't used it myself
[21:21] <BluesKaj> JontheEchidna, all versions of skype including the static one ?
[21:21] <JontheEchidna> I don't know what the static version is
[21:22] <JontheEchidna> but any 64-bit package that skype's shipped has included the 32-bit version of skype
[21:23] <BluesKaj> so how does linux manage to port to a qt version without consent from MS?
[21:24] <DorkVader> JontheEchidna: ah, yes, I think I was confused.. google wraps picasa in wine for linux, but I think they no longer distribute it anymore
[21:24] <JontheEchidna> yeah
[21:24] <JontheEchidna> picasa, that was it
[21:32] <ybit> whee!
[21:32] <ybit> upgraded last night
[21:32] <ybit> no wireless, woohoo! :P
[21:32]  * ybit works on remedying the situation
[21:33] <ybit> somethign to do with this wireless card, they always present problems
[21:33] <ybit> s/they/it
[21:38] <BluesKaj> ybit,which wifi card?
[21:40] <ybit> solution: http://askubuntu.com/questions/126772/wireless-is-not-getting-connected-on-starting-12-04
[21:41] <ybit> BluesKaj: Broadcom Corporation BCM4313 802.11b/g/n Wireless LAN Controller (rev 01)
[21:45] <BluesKaj> ybit, do you need the b43 fwcutter ..thought that driver was out of date
[21:46] <ybit> BluesKaj: previously the remedy for none of the distro picking up the wifi card was to echo "blacklist acer_wmi" >> /etc/modprobe.d/blacklist.conf
[21:46] <ybit> the solution listed on askubuntu works though
[21:47] <ybit> s/distro/distros
[21:47] <BluesKaj> ok good to know
[21:47] <ybit> yep, stored in case any other poor soul as broadcom :)
[21:48] <BluesKaj> usually bcm43 or some such module works
[21:49] <ybit> noted
[21:52] <BluesKaj> I have a 4 yr old acer laptop (which is currently at my daughter's place) which uses that driver ...had to wicd on 9.04 , but on 9.10 the kernel module worked with NM
[21:53] <BluesKaj> she since put W7 on it , but i plan to get it back this summer
[21:55] <BluesKaj> or else I'll be looking at an elcheapo laptop of some sort for my outdoor and travel computing
[22:01] <BluesKaj> BBL
[22:14] <JMichael|work> i am trying to remotely upgrade a machine to precise right now, and am now getting this error:    Error org.freedesktop.DBus.Error.Spawn.PermissionsInvalid: The permission of the setuid helper is not correct
[22:15] <JMichael|work> any suggestions?
[22:20] <NoOova> i install an kde. after reboot i has panel at bottom of screen, but now after one more reboot i gas an top panel
[22:20] <NoOova> why>
[22:21] <NoOova> how to enable default interface
[22:22] <z3r0d3rp> open panel edit mode and drag it back down
[22:22] <z3r0d3rp> then lock widgets
[22:23] <z3r0d3rp> chances are that you have desktop wrapping and the panel got bumbed down
[22:23] <NoOova> i think that this is something "notebook" mode
[22:23] <DorkVader> anyone rocking gcc 4.7 with kubuntu?
[22:23] <z3r0d3rp> yes
[22:23] <z3r0d3rp> I am
[22:23] <NoOova> and i only need to enable default mode?
[22:23] <DorkVader> z3r0d3rp: yeah? did you install gcc 4.7 from the packages?
[22:23] <z3r0d3rp> I have never set notebook mode so I have no idea
[22:24] <z3r0d3rp> 4.7 is the new default right?
[22:24] <z3r0d3rp> if so then yes
[22:25] <JMichael|work> if anyone has a clue about the dbus / setuid helper errors i am getting, it would be much appreciated.
[22:26] <DorkVader> z3r0d3rp: gcc 4.6 was installed by default for me
[22:26] <z3r0d3rp> looks like default is 4.4.6.3
[22:26] <EvilResistance> !info gcc precise
[22:26] <z3r0d3rp> with 4.5 and 4.6 plugins
[22:27] <z3r0d3rp> only thing I've built with it so far is oxygen-transparent
[22:28] <z3r0d3rp> although I will be monkeying around to get reaver working later
[22:29] <z3r0d3rp> !info aircrack-ng precise
[22:31] <z3r0d3rp> anyone else get an initramfs-tools error during upgrade?
[22:33] <z3r0d3rp> update-initramfs -u ????????
[22:34] <DorkVader> hm.... I'd like to use gcc4.7
[22:34] <fabrizio> irc.darksin.it
[22:34] <z3r0d3rp> DorkVader you should use the gcc version specified by the developer
[22:34] <z3r0d3rp> otherwise stuff gets borked
[22:34] <JMichael|work> ok, the setuid helper errors i was getting seem to have *possibly* disappeared, after logging out, and back in again
[22:34] <DorkVader> pffff
[22:35] <DorkVader> I am the developer
[22:36] <z3r0d3rp> developers developers developers
[22:37] <ultrixx> what?a phone for 500$?
[22:37] <z3r0d3rp> sounds like an iPhone
[22:38] <JMichael|work> developers shmevelopers
[22:38] <z3r0d3rp> there should be a notice to people to run update-initramfs -u after upgrade
[22:39] <z3r0d3rp> seems like lots of distribution upgrades are failing
[22:53] <DorkVader> so how to use synaptic to udpate all packages on my system?
[22:54] <z3r0d3rp> use muon
[22:54] <DorkVader> I thought muon was not recommended?
[23:00] <Belial`> DorkVader: muon is the default software manager.
[23:00] <DorkVader> ok, I was told it was buggy and not for production use?
[23:01] <DorkVader> I am confused now, is meta = the windows key now, and alt=alt?  I thought meta=alt in X before?
[23:02] <Steve132> Where are the most current md5 hashes?  The ones at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UbuntuHashes don't seem to be current
[23:02] <Steve132> I've downloaded 3 versions of kubuntu twice each and can't seem to get a matching checksum
[23:08] <len> What is the proper way to upgrade from Kubuntu 10.04 to 12.04.  The instructions given on the web page are wrong.  They say kpackage kit will offer up the upgrade just by opening it, but I that doesn't work because LTS to LTS upgrades are not offered automatically until the first point release which is 3 months from now.
[23:09] <len> I know you can do a generic do-release-upgrade -d but  what is the kubuntu specific way?
[23:15] <DorkVader> wow... always amazing to me how graceful linux is under CPU load.. running 8 instances of cpuburn (burnP6), streaming music with amarok,  surfing the web, full  KDE eye candy effects... nothing seems affected
[23:16] <Steve132> Does the DVD make any difference over the CD iso?
[23:17] <Steve132> I'm installing via usb key anyway, so space doesn't really matter
[23:17] <Steve132> I assumed the DVD would have more software
[23:17] <Steve132> but the page says the only difference is the language support
[23:37] <hanasaki> BluesKaj:  is there a good alternative to skype  that works in kde+gnome? with a gateway to the POTS telephones ?  and works with things like asterisk or gvoice as a gateway?
[23:39] <hanasaki> hmm alt tab has stopped working in the kde precise update.......
[23:49] <z3r0d3rp> I did the update on my desktop... started using 100% cpu all the time.... just reinstalled clean
[23:52] <BlouBlou> z3r0d3rp: you maybe had to reinstall the graphic drivers
[23:52] <z3r0d3rp> they were intel drivers
[23:52] <z3r0d3rp> shouldn't have had to