[01:27] <SpamapS> interesting..
[01:28] <SpamapS> shouldn't perl, which directly links libperl, depend on libperl (= ${binary:Version}) ?
[01:34] <SpamapS> well anyway, bug #989788 has me thinking about that
[02:31] <ScottK> SpamapS: Eventually you're going to triage enough of those postfix exit 75 bugs that you'll finally write a bug pattern for it ....
[05:19] <ScottK> dobey: Now that precise is out the door, if you guys want to take another shot at the python-qt4 split, I'm game to work with you on it and get it into Debian.
[07:21] <SpamapS> ScottK: I thought I did write a bug pattern for it. In fact, I think I did, and many of them are gone.
[08:27] <cjwatson> SpamapS: On i386, perl is statically linked to libperl.a for performance.  On other architectures, the actual library is in perl-base, and libperl5.* depends on that; I believe that this is to avoid excessive dependency complexity in an Essential package.
[12:49] <penguin42> is there a mailing list admin around? I've got a user asking for a mail to be removed from mail-archive.com's archive of ayatana@lists.lp - it looks like I helped him a few months back (can't remember how I helped him) - I think he's actually sent this message via a 'contact this team' via lp, but not entirely sure
[12:50] <Laney> you want #launchpad, but i doubt there is anything that can be done this side.
[12:50] <Nafallo> penguin42: ehrm. you'd need an admin for everyone caching that list in the world + google to get it removed. might be better to have the user not send mails he regrets :-)
[12:52] <penguin42> Nafallo: I agree, but mail-archive.com's FAQ says that they can remove things given the approval of the list-admin and he's trying to go down that route (although the links to the ayatana admins from mail-archive.com seem broken) - I suspect I helped him on \ubuntu=bugs a while ago when he first asked
[12:53] <Nafallo> wow
[12:53] <penguin42> is there a 'correct' contact for the admin of that list he should contact?
[12:55] <Nafallo> *shrugs* likely an RT to the list-masters.
[12:55] <Nafallo> rt/AT/ubuntu.com
[12:55] <Nafallo> iirc
[12:55] <penguin42> ok, thanks I'll ask him to do that
[12:56] <Nafallo> if nothing else, they can likely point him further in a direction.
[12:56] <Laney> it's not an ubuntu list, but a launchpad one.
[12:56] <penguin42> nod - I don't even think it was a particularly messy mistake
[12:57] <penguin42> Laney: So what would you suggest?
[12:57] <Laney> contact #launchpad or the administrators of that particular team
[12:58] <Nafallo> Laney: same admins...
[12:58] <Nafallo> Laney: the ubuntu.com just means it's a community question.
[12:58] <Nafallo> *shrugs*
[12:59] <Laney> Nafallo: the administrators of the team in Launchpad
[13:00] <Nafallo> *shrugs*
[13:01] <penguin42> the maintainer of Ayatana in lp seems to be 'Registry Administrators'
[13:03] <Laney> I think it got renamed to unity-design https://launchpad.net/~unity-design
[13:03] <penguin42> yeh, which might be why the mail-archive.com link is broken
[13:04] <penguin42> right, I've told him to try the rtq address and if that fails to try the contact-this-team that I followed from the ayatana address a few links; he's got a chance of getting to some one
[13:04] <penguin42> rt@
[13:04] <penguin42> heck, I wish synergy wouldn't screw key mappings....
[13:05] <Laney> he probably shouldn't make further public postings linking to it ...
[13:08] <penguin42> yes, indeed
[14:32] <tomreyn> is there a way to delete the cached SSO information used by software-center?
[14:34] <tumbleweed> tomreyn: I would assume it's in the gnome keyring
[14:42] <tomreyn> tumbleweed: it's there, but this doesn't seem to be the only place.
[15:05] <SpamapS> cjwatson: ok, given that libperl.so.5.14 would be in the perl-base package, and nagios-plugins-basic -> ucf -> debconf -pre-depends-> perl-base .. shouldn't perl-base have been configured (and thus, ldcache updated) and prevented bug #989788 ? I'm thinking it might be a dpkg bug
[16:21] <dobey> ScottK: cool. will try to find some time to poke at it again soon
[16:33] <amarunowski> hey guys, i'm making some lee-way with animating my desktop background, i got the system to stop using nautilus as an overlay, and i'm now looking into conky, so see how it draws directly to the desktop background. could anybody give me a hint as to which Ubuntu app is responsible for actually drawing the desktop background image?
[16:56] <tumbleweed> SpamapS: congrats! re https://lists.debian.org/debian-newmaint/2012/04/msg00032.html
[17:09] <Laney> \o/
[17:22] <Laney> now The Wait Begins
[20:03] <mlankhorst> o.O.. ppa bugging? Version older than that in the archive. 1.5.3-0ubuntu1~ppa1~oneiric2+pulse17 <= 1.5.3-0ubuntu1~ppa1~precise2+pulse17
[20:05] <mlankhorst> sigh suppose ill create a second staging ppa then
[20:22] <jussi> hi all, would it be possible to introduce colours into the apt output? so when you go to update/upgrade, packaged to be install come in green, remove red etc?
[20:56] <ScottK> jussi: That's something that should be done/not done in Debian IMO.  It's not something Ubuntu should carry a long term diff for.