[01:29] <RamJett> On an new install 12.04 LTS. Is there a way in grub, pre-boot, to force keyboard somehow. System drops to intramfs, says continuing md sync, but I get no keyboard. The box only has usb.
[01:34] <SpamapS> RamJett: your BIOS doesn't detect the USB keyboard?
[01:35] <SpamapS> RamJett: usually the kernel will pick it up tho
[01:37] <RamJett> Yes, keyboard works fine until initramfs loads
[02:14] <three18ti__> what's the default username and password for MAAS nodes?
[02:52] <ruben23>  hi guys when this script will run..? 1 22,2 * * 0 /usr/share/astguiclient/ADMIN_adjust_GMTnow_on_leads.pl --debug --postal-code-gmt
[03:03] <koolhead17> hu all
[03:03] <koolhead17> *hi
[03:34] <three18ti_> or, how do I get into my newly provisioned node?
[03:54] <RoyK> three18ti_: I've seen a few questions about it, and to be honest, I don't know, but googling maas passwd, it gives a few hints
[03:59] <three18ti_> thanks RoyK,
[04:04] <three18ti_> problem is I don't think that helps me... or if it does, I'm not sure what to do with that information...  This seems to be to reset the password to login to the maas web interface, I
[04:05] <three18ti_> I'm trying to login to a node that I provisioned though.
[04:31] <ruben23>  hi guys cronjobs are dependent..? on my ubuntu server time and date right..?
[04:33] <patdk-lap> yep
[04:35] <ruben23>  patdk-lap: my serer is EDT and my current time is PHT... is this means i need to interpret it as inverted time..
[05:16] <koffel> hello
[05:27] <three18ti_> hello.
[05:29] <koffel> heya three
[07:40] <linocisco> any zentyal expert? as #zentyal channel is not active
[09:12] <airtonix> linocisco: no expert, but we use it at work. what's the matter
[09:12] <airtonix> it leaves alot to be desired but there's nothing better
[09:43] <gartral> where is the md5 sum for the server iso?
[09:58] <wiherek> Hi
[09:58] <wiherek> i have a problm\
[09:58] <wiherek> was trying to set up Varnish
[09:58] <wiherek> and got it running like crazy, using all my RAM
[09:59] <wiherek> (6GB)
[09:59] <wiherek> so got messages that bash: fork: Cannot allocate memory
[09:59] <wiherek> now the process is still running, I cant connect via ssh
[10:00] <wiherek> and cant even reboot it from the solusVM panel
[10:00] <wiherek> is there something I =could do?
[10:00] <just-a-visitor> @gartal http://releases.ubuntu.com/12.04/
[10:03] <just-a-visitor> Sorry @gartral http://releases.ubuntu.com/12.04/
[11:35] <wiherek> hi again
[11:35] <wiherek> how can i force kill a process? something more brutal than pkill - I am out of memory and cant execute pkill
[11:37] <StevenR> kill -9 PID ?
[11:38] <StevenR> (-9 is really really kill it, don't even ask nicely)
[11:41] <linocisco> airtonix, I have two HDD, one is 250 GB with zentyal installed , another 500GB is recently added, I want to share 500GB among workgroup widnows clients as network drive. dont know how to do
[11:42] <Nafallo> pkill -KILL
[11:54] <john_doe> After I upgraded my server, I can't get postgrey to listen on ipv4. How can I control this?
[13:25] <linocisco> airtonix, hi
[15:23] <zastaph> I followed http://www.php2s.com/linux/how-to-upgrade-to-ubuntu-12-04-for-desktops-servers-running-10-04-or-11-10.html to upgrade LTS 10 to LTS 12, but cat /etc/issue and other means to check for version all shows maverick
[15:23] <zastaph> also I had to set Prompt from lts to normal in /etc/update-manager/release-upgrades for it to actually run
[15:23] <zastaph> which kinda tells me it couldnt detect 12.04 lts ?
[15:30] <zastaph_> disconnected :( if anyone answered
[16:11] <albert23> zastaph_: lts to lts upgrades will only be offered after the 12.04.1 release, end of July
[16:12] <zastaph_> ok
[16:12] <zastaph_> i wonder what it actually did, it took some time
[16:12] <zastaph_> maybe it just reinstalled itself :)
[16:12] <hlan> I'm testing precise and /etc/rc.local doesn't seem to run anymore...
[16:13] <hlan> I need /etc/rc.local to start instance specific custom daemons on startup
[16:13] <hlan> has /etc/rc.local been deprecated or something?
[16:14] <albert23> zastaph_: As you switched from lts to normal upgrades, you probably really did the upgrade to maverick
[16:14] <zastaph_> albert23, ok I messed up :) I'm gonna install 12.04 from scratch
[16:15] <albert23> probably the best thing to do now
[16:15] <albert23> the alternative is to go maverick - natty- oneiric -precise
[16:26] <aljosa> what's the difference between server and cloud iso?
[16:39] <hlan> how do I disable an /etc/init script?
[16:42] <hattorihanzo> hey guys,
[16:43] <hattorihanzo> how can i test the integrity of my disk?
[16:43] <hattorihanzo> im not sue i can use smartctl, this is on xen vps (ubuntu 11.10)
[16:44] <hattorihanzo> i try smartctl on /dev/xvda1 but it says it cant do anything with it
[16:45] <RoyK> hattorihanzo: smartctl won't check the data, only ask the disk if it thinks everything's ok
[16:45] <RoyK> hattorihanzo: fsck will check the metadata on the filesystem
[16:46] <RoyK> hattorihanzo: the actual data isn't checksummed on most filesystems - afaik only btrfs and zfs does that on linux (and zfs only throug fuse)
[16:49] <Exopalad1n> I imagine the native ZFS module does too, although it isn't entirely complete
[16:56] <RoyK> it needs to do so if it's doing zfs
[16:56] <RoyK> but I thought that was pretty fscking far from stable...
[16:58] <qman__> yeah, I thought it was about on par with the old kernel ntfs module
[16:59] <qman__> don't let it write to your disks unless you don't care what happens
[16:59] <RoyK> something like that
[17:35] <RamJett> Does anyone use software raid 5, 6, or 10 with 4 or more drives and not have a boot problem with it going in degrade almost every reboot? This is starting to really drive me crazy.
[17:55] <qman__> RamJett, I have a raid 6, 11 + 1 spare
[17:57] <RamJett> I've setup 12.04 LTS on 4 Dell boxes now .. none work consistently., in fact very rarely. Am I missing something? I can do Gentoo and works perfect.
[17:59] <qman__> well, I don't know if there's a 12.04 issue, I'm running 10.04
[17:59] <qman__> but I have lots of raids on lots of different versions without any such issue
[18:00] <qman__> including a 3 disk raid 5 on 12.04 beta
[18:02] <RoyK> raid-11?
[18:02] <RoyK> that's fancy ;)
[18:03] <RamJett> I think there is a race condition bug in the initramfs, but have not been able get it to work. Have 2 boxes with 12 drives and trying to get raid 6 across all 12. No luck on everything I try
[18:03] <RoyK> RamJett: booting from raid-[56]?
[18:04] <RamJett> I boot from a /dev/sda2 ... The raid array is extra storage for nova
[18:04] <RoyK> IMHO there should be a distinct split between data drives and system drives
[18:05] <RoyK> s/IMHO/IMO/
[18:05] <qman__> that's how I do it too, 4GB quantum fireball for /boot and /, 11 disk raid 6 for /home
[18:05] <RoyK> qman__: sounds reasonable
[18:05] <Nafallo> depends on the service, surely.
[18:05]  * RoyK wants data checksumming on ext4
[18:06] <qman__> would be nice
[18:06] <qman__> I have experienced silent corruption issues
[18:07] <RoyK> so have I, on zfs, so zfs pinpointed the corrupt files, but since the filesystem was on hw raid, we had to restore from backup
[18:07] <qman__> no recourse here, had to recreate the data
[18:07] <qman__> I do have backups now
[18:08] <RamJett> Is there a way to skip the raid in the initramfs and just do it after system is up
[18:08] <RoyK> silent errors are rather bad
[18:08] <RoyK> RamJett: do you boot off a raid set?
[18:09] <RamJett> No, raw /dev/sda2
[18:09] <RoyK> so what happens?
[18:09] <Nafallo> there is a setting somewhere to allow boot in degraded mode
[18:10] <RoyK> Nafallo: iirc that's booting *from* a degraded md dev
[18:10] <RoyK> Nafallo: his rootfs is on a separate partition
[18:11] <RoyK> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation/SoftwareRAID#Boot_from_Degraded_Disk
[18:11] <RamJett> but initramfs drops into shell every reboot .. says degrade mode. Yes, the degrade mode setting is set, but still stops and asks .. do you want to boot .. if you doen't answer it drops into shell. The box is in a data center. I don't want to be there for every re-boot
[18:11] <hattorihanzo> royk: this is a box i just setup, not trying to recover anydata, i've just noticed data being corrupted
[18:12] <Nafallo> right. that's what I was thinking of.
[18:12] <RoyK> RamJett: try to boot on a livecd and force a scrub of that raid set
[18:13] <RoyK> RamJett: scrub as in "echo check > /sys/block/$dev/md/sync_action"
[18:13] <RoyK> $dev being md0 or something
[18:14] <RoyK> hattorihanzo: try the same - silent errors are troublesome at best
[18:14] <RamJett> RoyK : It is a boot problem though . a bug .. if I pull all 12 drives and let it boot .. then plug in when the system is up. All is good
[18:15] <RoyK> RamJett: yes, but please try to scrub it first, there might be some errors there that the md driver reacts to
[18:17] <RamJett> RoyK; I can try, just don't thing is the problem. Brand new boxes 3 Dell R515 .. all have the same issue
[18:17] <RoyK> ouch
[18:17] <RoyK> double-plus ungood :þ
[18:18] <RoyK> RamJett: which ubuntu version?
[18:18] <RamJett> Also a Dell R710 .. same issue
[18:18] <RamJett> Server 12.04 LTS iso from the 26th
[18:19] <RoyK> try lucid
[18:19] <RoyK> precise is still young
[18:19] <RoyK> lucid is rock stable
[18:20] <RamJett> yeah it works ok with 10.04 LTS .. but these boxes are going to run OpenStack Essex
[18:20] <RoyK> then file a bug
[18:20] <RoyK> RamJett: and if you have paid support for it, canonical may fix it quickly...
[18:23] <RamJett> RoyK: On this one I would love to pay for the support. Haven't had to pay for any support for many years .. like the 90's . But my company won't pay for anything .. hardly pays for me. I'll see what I can do
[18:23] <qman__> yeah, it's too soon to expect every bug to have a fix or workaround
[18:23] <qman__> in a month or two it'll probably be sorted out
[18:23] <RoyK> RamJett: it's not very expensive...
[18:33] <JonEdney> Will upgrading my 11.10 server to 12.04 remove my data, or will it just update the OS files?
[18:33] <JonEdney> I assume it will work as the 12.04 desktop did, but want to be sure.
[18:33] <RoyK> it won't remove any data
[18:34] <JonEdney> Thanks RoyK
[19:29] <vinhdizzo> i just upgraded to ubuntu 12.04 server.  now, i get "segmentation fault" when i type "sudo" or "su".  dmesg shows segfault [15775.893368] sudo[4628]: segfault at 500 ip b6ff7741 sp bfad9250 error 4 in libpthread-2.15.so[b6ff2000+17000] .  Any thoughts?
[19:29] <RoyK> vinhdizzo: probably something rather bad happened - I'd try to boot a live cd to see if things work there
[19:30] <RoyK> if they do, reinstall
[19:30] <vinhdizzo> RoyK: as in wipe it clean???
[19:31] <RoyK> if you can, yes - not the data, though, only system
[19:32] <vinhdizzo> i have so many configs
[19:32] <vinhdizzo> i was really hoping not to have to re-install packages and configs
[19:33] <guntbert> vinhdizzo: you can back up the whole /etc from the live CD
[19:34] <vinhdizzo> i see
[19:34] <vinhdizzo> hopefully there is a way to fix
[19:34] <vinhdizzo> without having to resort to that
[19:44] <emdub> anyone familiar with preseed/late_command and upstart?  i'm having a problem where a command i am running from my preseed file is failing because the start-stop-daemon is still the "fake" file
[20:37] <three18ti__> how long should a juju status take to run?  It's been at INFO connecting to environment for close to 15 minutes now.  I do see some traffic running a TCP dump.
[21:25] <three18ti__> idk... I let `juju status` run for an hour, literally did nothing other than "INFO connecting to env" ...
[21:25] <three18ti__> 2012-04-28 14:23:13,307 INFO Connecting to environment...
[21:26] <three18ti__> time now  Sat Apr 28 15:26:13 MDT 2012
[22:48] <wiherek> hi
[22:49] <wiherek> im setting up a mailserver. any reason to go with dovecot instead of courier?
[22:49] <Nafallo> wiherek: security support for one...
[22:50] <wiherek> what do you mean?
[22:50] <Nafallo> courier is in universe. it's security support is best effort, community based.
[22:50] <Nafallo> dovecot is in main, and it's security support is Canonical's security team
[22:51] <Nafallo> paid for to care for it
[22:51] <wiherek> ok, thanks
[23:03] <flaccid> dovecot rules, courier sux, its really that simple :)
[23:04] <virusuy> dovecot + postfix = success !
[23:06] <flaccid> agreed
[23:07] <virusuy> and you love posftix when you have to deal with sendmail config file
[23:12] <Nafallo> exim