| === kjcole changed the topic of #ubuntu-us-dc to: 1st Monthly meeting Saturday, 28 April 2012 at 6:30 pm here on this channel | ||
| kjcole | Stepping away til 6:30 showtime. | 22:23 |
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| ghoulmann | ghoulmann is rik goldman. | 22:25 |
| ghoulmann | ^ for the log | 22:28 |
| kjcole | And, I'm back. | 22:32 |
| ghoulmann | greets. | 22:32 |
| ghoulmann | I'll have to run soon, but i want to thank sincerely the loco for the support for the release party, moral and otherwise. | 22:33 |
| kjcole | I suppose, for the log, I should also identify. Not certain if it's worth much but it can't hurt. | 22:33 |
| * kjcole is Kevin Cole | 22:33 | |
| kjcole | I was so hoping that jelkner would be on, since he said he'd be running this meeting... I'm going to operate on the assumption he'll get here soon. | 22:35 |
| kjcole | (I'll try calling. BRB) | 22:35 |
| ghoulmann | this is something i've been working toward scripting from a lts core (turnkey linux for me): https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Education/EdubuntuServer | 22:36 |
| kjcole | I just left a message. | 22:37 |
| ghoulmann | the launchpad link is dead, so I suspect it's not a priority any longer. | 22:37 |
| kjcole | ghoulmann you have photos from today, yes? Are you on Flickr? | 22:38 |
| ghoulmann | kjcole: I do have a few (the photographer in me is embarassed). I will post to flickr and update on the listserv. | 22:39 |
| ghoulmann | phone quality, so my promise is weak. | 22:40 |
| kjcole | ghoulmann, I should have taken some myself (not that I'm any great shakes with a camera). Or, perhaps I *am* great shakes but that's *not* a good thing for photography. | 22:40 |
| * ghoulmann nods in understanding. | 22:41 | |
| kjcole | I guess I'll hang for another 10 minutes or so, and if there's no action here, declare it "adjourned". | 22:42 |
| ghoulmann | fair enough. I'd love to see us crowd source a post install script that newkins can run and have everything they need, given how available storage is now. | 22:42 |
| ghoulmann | another activity: if we could take shifts on the support channels, it may be becoming for us. | 22:44 |
| kjcole | I find personally, that even after many years, I'm asking more questions than I answer on IRC, and I still am not enthralled with lots of simultaneous conversations. That said, yeah, I could probably put in some hours. | 22:46 |
| kjcole | My mind's a sieve: IEP software name again? | 22:46 |
| ghoulmann | I could make time somewhere. possibly incorporate it into instruction. | 22:46 |
| ghoulmann | iep-ipp. ISO should be on http://9while9.com (based on lucid) | 22:47 |
| ghoulmann | the patch is also available at the forums @ http://turnkeylinux.org | 22:48 |
| emaag | greets | 22:49 |
| kjcole | Jeff Elkner left Yorktown a few years ago to work at the Arlington Career Center, and is also doing work with Northern VA Community College. I imagine he'll want to convert the whole beastie to Python. Possibly Django. | 22:49 |
| kjcole | Ah, another voice heard from. Welcome. FWIW, we're doing the whole "/me is So and So" for the logs. | 22:50 |
| ghoulmann | also to plant a seed for ed tech folks: I'd like to put together a paper on using svn or git as a writing process tool. | 22:50 |
| kjcole | ghoulmann: What??? Not bzr??? ;-) | 22:51 |
| ghoulmann | I see; i haven't figured out ubuntu fhs standards for python web apps, so that leaves me with little to contribute. | 22:51 |
| ghoulmann | i associate bzr with people i am unhappy to know. | 22:51 |
| kjcole | FHS? | 22:51 |
| ghoulmann | filesystem hierarchy standard | 22:52 |
| kjcole | Ah. | 22:52 |
| ghoulmann | where to put the pages if not in /usr/share/ or /var/www | 22:52 |
| kjcole | I was a latecomer to revision control systems. At an Ubuntu Developer's Summit I saw an early version of bzr and said "Oh! Not at all as complicated as I thought! I could use that." So that's really been the only one I've used (other than pulling from git or svn repositories elsewhere). | 22:53 |
| kjcole | I *did* finally get a small taste of contributing via git, through the Open Hatch on Campus event at U. Md. last month. | 22:54 |
| ghoulmann | i know at least one person is onto revision tracking for writing composition. I want to present something somewhere as soon as possible. Two excellent books, both from pragmatic guides, one to subversion and one on git. | 22:55 |
| kjcole | ghoulmann you may want to look at Open Hatch if you haven't already: http://openhatch.org/ | 22:56 |
| ghoulmann | move peer review and feedback to bug tracking system, and you have a nice writing process program in place. | 22:56 |
| ghoulmann | i sure will. | 22:56 |
| ghoulmann | looks great. | 22:57 |
| kjcole | I use bzr to track my office's web pages, and now to track my Django stuff as well. | 22:57 |
| ghoulmann | hm, i'll track a primer down. | 22:58 |
| kjcole | So, emaag, thoughts on how to build a loco? | 22:58 |
| ghoulmann | i'll forward info about byte back's community day to the listserv. they're looking for 45 minutes of instruction from volunteers. | 22:59 |
| ghoulmann | (in brookland) | 22:59 |
| kjcole | bzr primer? http://dc.ubuntu-us.org/tutorials/bzr-intro.html | 22:59 |
| ghoulmann | hey look, a contribution. | 22:59 |
| ghoulmann | oh, 2006. still, kudos. | 23:00 |
| kjcole | And very basic. If you're already using svn and / or git with any fluency, you'll find the bzr primer VERY superficial. | 23:00 |
| ghoulmann | i am not using either with proficiency, just pulling for automating patches as necessary. | 23:01 |
| ghoulmann | bzr i associate exclusively with python webapps, for better or worse. | 23:01 |
| kjcole | Oh, then you'll definitely get some use from the primer. A more thorough treatment can be had at: | 23:02 |
| kjcole | the resources listed at the end of my primer. (I was going to type the urls, and then thought "no. Wait. I probably already did in the primer.") | 23:03 |
| ghoulmann | yup, saw them there. bookmarked. | 23:04 |
| ghoulmann | ok, gotta run, my record ended. | 23:04 |
| kjcole | Well, it looks like this "meeting" is you and I. In which case, I'm thinking of wandering off to dinner. ;-) | 23:04 |
| ghoulmann | g'night. thanks again. | 23:04 |
| kjcole | Two minds with but one thought. | 23:04 |
| kjcole | Later dude. | 23:04 |
| ghoulmann | ciao. | 23:04 |
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