=== kjcole changed the topic of #ubuntu-us-dc to: 1st Monthly meeting Saturday, 28 April 2012 at 6:30 pm here on this channel [22:23] Stepping away til 6:30 showtime. [22:25] ghoulmann is rik goldman. [22:28] ^ for the log [22:32] And, I'm back. [22:32] greets. [22:33] I'll have to run soon, but i want to thank sincerely the loco for the support for the release party, moral and otherwise. [22:33] I suppose, for the log, I should also identify. Not certain if it's worth much but it can't hurt. [22:33] * kjcole is Kevin Cole [22:35] I was so hoping that jelkner would be on, since he said he'd be running this meeting... I'm going to operate on the assumption he'll get here soon. [22:35] (I'll try calling. BRB) [22:36] this is something i've been working toward scripting from a lts core (turnkey linux for me): https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Education/EdubuntuServer [22:37] I just left a message. [22:37] the launchpad link is dead, so I suspect it's not a priority any longer. [22:38] ghoulmann you have photos from today, yes? Are you on Flickr? [22:39] kjcole: I do have a few (the photographer in me is embarassed). I will post to flickr and update on the listserv. [22:40] phone quality, so my promise is weak. [22:40] ghoulmann, I should have taken some myself (not that I'm any great shakes with a camera). Or, perhaps I *am* great shakes but that's *not* a good thing for photography. [22:41] * ghoulmann nods in understanding. [22:42] I guess I'll hang for another 10 minutes or so, and if there's no action here, declare it "adjourned". [22:42] fair enough. I'd love to see us crowd source a post install script that newkins can run and have everything they need, given how available storage is now. [22:44] another activity: if we could take shifts on the support channels, it may be becoming for us. [22:46] I find personally, that even after many years, I'm asking more questions than I answer on IRC, and I still am not enthralled with lots of simultaneous conversations. That said, yeah, I could probably put in some hours. [22:46] My mind's a sieve: IEP software name again? [22:46] I could make time somewhere. possibly incorporate it into instruction. [22:47] iep-ipp. ISO should be on http://9while9.com (based on lucid) [22:48] the patch is also available at the forums @ http://turnkeylinux.org [22:49] greets [22:49] Jeff Elkner left Yorktown a few years ago to work at the Arlington Career Center, and is also doing work with Northern VA Community College. I imagine he'll want to convert the whole beastie to Python. Possibly Django. [22:50] Ah, another voice heard from. Welcome. FWIW, we're doing the whole "/me is So and So" for the logs. [22:50] also to plant a seed for ed tech folks: I'd like to put together a paper on using svn or git as a writing process tool. [22:51] ghoulmann: What??? Not bzr??? ;-) [22:51] I see; i haven't figured out ubuntu fhs standards for python web apps, so that leaves me with little to contribute. [22:51] i associate bzr with people i am unhappy to know. [22:51] FHS? [22:52] filesystem hierarchy standard [22:52] Ah. [22:52] where to put the pages if not in /usr/share/ or /var/www [22:53] I was a latecomer to revision control systems. At an Ubuntu Developer's Summit I saw an early version of bzr and said "Oh! Not at all as complicated as I thought! I could use that." So that's really been the only one I've used (other than pulling from git or svn repositories elsewhere). [22:54] I *did* finally get a small taste of contributing via git, through the Open Hatch on Campus event at U. Md. last month. [22:55] i know at least one person is onto revision tracking for writing composition. I want to present something somewhere as soon as possible. Two excellent books, both from pragmatic guides, one to subversion and one on git. [22:56] ghoulmann you may want to look at Open Hatch if you haven't already: http://openhatch.org/ [22:56] move peer review and feedback to bug tracking system, and you have a nice writing process program in place. [22:56] i sure will. [22:57] looks great. [22:57] I use bzr to track my office's web pages, and now to track my Django stuff as well. [22:58] hm, i'll track a primer down. [22:58] So, emaag, thoughts on how to build a loco? [22:59] i'll forward info about byte back's community day to the listserv. they're looking for 45 minutes of instruction from volunteers. [22:59] (in brookland) [22:59] bzr primer? http://dc.ubuntu-us.org/tutorials/bzr-intro.html [22:59] hey look, a contribution. [23:00] oh, 2006. still, kudos. [23:00] And very basic. If you're already using svn and / or git with any fluency, you'll find the bzr primer VERY superficial. [23:01] i am not using either with proficiency, just pulling for automating patches as necessary. [23:01] bzr i associate exclusively with python webapps, for better or worse. [23:02] Oh, then you'll definitely get some use from the primer. A more thorough treatment can be had at: [23:03] the resources listed at the end of my primer. (I was going to type the urls, and then thought "no. Wait. I probably already did in the primer.") [23:04] yup, saw them there. bookmarked. [23:04] ok, gotta run, my record ended. [23:04] Well, it looks like this "meeting" is you and I. In which case, I'm thinking of wandering off to dinner. ;-) [23:04] g'night. thanks again. [23:04] Two minds with but one thought. [23:04] Later dude. [23:04] ciao.