| magespawn | Good morning. | 06:39 |
|---|---|---|
| roryy | ello | 06:44 |
| magespawn | Howdy, a new face, when did you start coming here? | 06:52 |
| roryy | ag, i pop onto irc one every 6 months for a few days | 06:52 |
| magespawn | Cool | 06:53 |
| magespawn | This channel is normally pretty quite, now there lots of peeps | 06:55 |
| === Kerbero is now known as Kerbero[afk] | ||
| magespawn | afternoon all | 12:11 |
| superfly | hi magespawn | 12:33 |
| magespawn | hey superfly | 12:33 |
| magespawn | busy watching this in youtube quite interesting http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0UghlW1TsMA&feature=youtube_gdata | 12:35 |
| magespawn | hacking in the 80's and 90's | 12:53 |
| superfly | magespawn: looks interesting... will have to watch it when junior isn't watching a movie next to me | 12:54 |
| magespawn | ahh the kids. fish one use to fall asleep in my lap while I was playing starcraft | 12:55 |
| magespawn | 300 baud modems | 12:55 |
| magespawn | 5 1/2 inch floppies | 12:56 |
| magespawn | superfly what would you use to encrypt email | 13:05 |
| magespawn | or files | 13:05 |
| superfly | IIRC you can use PGP or GnuPG | 13:06 |
| magespawn | when I found out what that means I thought it was quite funny | 13:13 |
| zeref | o00o, interesting watch: http://www.thefilterbubble.com/ted-talk | 13:33 |
| magespawn | this sort of thing has been going on since we started looking for information | 13:58 |
| magespawn | you must learn to get rid of your own patterns | 13:59 |
| magespawn | now it happens automatically bit like the the tv remote control | 14:00 |
| magespawn | not really a bit fan of the facebook timelinehave missed things from friends who are not that active | 14:01 |
| magespawn | big | 14:01 |
| charlvn | magespawn: i also use gpg or sometimes bcrypt (blowfish) | 14:16 |
| magespawn | cool why change from one to the other? | 14:16 |
| charlvn | they both support symmetric passphrase-based encryption for files but i'm quite interested to know which one is more secure | 14:17 |
| magespawn | a video on how to use vim for those who do not know http://www.everymanit.com/2010/09/15/vim-for-file-editing/ | 14:17 |
| charlvn | gpg also supports ppk (asymmetric) encryption | 14:18 |
| tumbleweed | gpg supports a lot more encryption options than bcrypt | 14:18 |
| magespawn | be interesting to find out, i need one that will run on different platforms | 14:18 |
| charlvn | yeah it's much more advanced, you can have a keyring etc | 14:18 |
| tumbleweed | there in gpg / pgp pretty much everywhere | 14:18 |
| charlvn | bcrypt is simple and afaik quite secure but limited in terms of functionality | 14:19 |
| charlvn | magespawn: gpg is cross-platform, not sure of bcrypt | 14:19 |
| charlvn | but blowfish is pretty popular so i assume it would be too | 14:19 |
| tumbleweed | blowfish isn't that popular these days, but it isn't signidficantly broken | 14:19 |
| charlvn | blowfish usually gets used for backend purposes, very rarely by normal users | 14:20 |
| magespawn | no support for windows but will run in cygwin | 14:20 |
| charlvn | only reason i use and know about it is because it is my job (software development) | 14:20 |
| magespawn | tumbleweed do you use one? | 14:20 |
| charlvn | http://codahale.com/how-to-safely-store-a-password/ | 14:21 |
| tumbleweed | these days, you'd usually use AES | 14:21 |
| magespawn | sorry i lie there is a windows binary for blowfish | 14:21 |
| tumbleweed | magespawn: gpg, we use gpg signatures to authenticate debian & ubuntu uploads | 14:21 |
| charlvn | depends on the purpose, bcrypt is super efficient for symmetric key encryption | 14:21 |
| tumbleweed | magespawn: blowfish is just a cipher, you'll find implementations for it everywhere | 14:22 |
| charlvn | but... if you need PPK you need to go AES | 14:22 |
| tumbleweed | e.g. it's one of the many supported by gpg | 14:22 |
| tumbleweed | charlvn: AES is a symmetric cipher | 14:22 |
| tumbleweed | just like blowfish | 14:22 |
| charlvn | just checked on the wikipedia, that's indeed correct, not sure why i thought otherwise | 14:23 |
| magespawn | is it possible to break the encryption? practically speaking? | 14:23 |
| charlvn | everything is possible, depends on the computing resources you have at your disposal | 14:24 |
| tumbleweed | no known way. Usually any attacks go through side channels or implementation mistakes | 14:24 |
| magespawn | right thanks a lot guys, i have to take kids home now, will see you all a bit later | 14:25 |
| charlvn | http://www.wired.com/threatlevel/2012/03/ff_nsadatacenter/ | 14:26 |
| charlvn | lol while searching for that link i found this: http://en.shiapost.com/?p=2260 | 14:27 |
| Kilos | afternoon superfly and others | 14:36 |
| charlvn | hi Kilos | 14:36 |
| Kilos | just popped in for coffee | 14:36 |
| Kilos | hi there charlvn | 14:36 |
| superfly | afternoon Kilos | 14:36 |
| Kilos | Maaz, coffee on | 14:36 |
| * Maaz washes some mugs | 14:36 | |
| Kilos | wiped xubuntu off 6g drive and installed natty and without updating have been installing everything from saved natty archives with gdebi | 14:38 |
| Kilos | what a job | 14:38 |
| charlvn | superfly: here's the problem i'm having with VB http://i.imgur.com/doZOK.png | 14:39 |
| superfly | charlvn: it gave me that message, and then I went and switched on 3D acceleration, and I have full Gnome 3 | 14:40 |
| superfly | s/3/Shell/ | 14:40 |
| charlvn | ok lemme try that.. hold on | 14:40 |
| Maaz | Coffee's ready for Kilos! | 14:40 |
| Kilos | Maaz, ty | 14:41 |
| Maaz | You are welcome Kilos | 14:41 |
| superfly | but, I'm not a Gnomer, so I don't know anything more than what I did | 14:41 |
| Kilos | lol | 14:41 |
| superfly | charlvn: also, my Gnome 3 was in Debian, so it may differ from Ubuntu | 14:41 |
| charlvn | this is on fedora core | 14:42 |
| superfly | and Fedora :-) | 14:42 |
| charlvn | in principle it shouldn't matter unless there is some strange driver problem | 14:42 |
| superfly | yeah | 14:42 |
| charlvn | weird, enabled 3d acceleration in the virtual machine settings | 14:43 |
| charlvn | but it still doesn't work | 14:44 |
| superfly | charlvn: did you shut the machine down and restart it? | 14:44 |
| charlvn | yeah of course | 14:44 |
| charlvn | very strange | 14:44 |
| superfly | charlvn: I presume you also have the guest utils installed? | 14:44 |
| charlvn | no this is booting from the live cd, so i think that must be the problem | 14:45 |
| charlvn | ok lemme do an install and get the drivers in there | 14:46 |
| Kilos | bbl | 14:50 |
| charlvn | i never understand why they hide the install option under system tools | 14:50 |
| Kilos | lol | 14:50 |
| charlvn | you would think they would make it simpler | 14:50 |
| charlvn | yeah weird | 14:50 |
| charlvn | fedora, wtf srsly | 14:55 |
| === Kerbero[afk] is now known as Kerbero | ||
| charlvn | hold on | 14:55 |
| charlvn | installer started complaining that the installation media is corrupt - then did a md5sum and the .iso is perfect | 14:56 |
| charlvn | hit retry, continued working | 14:56 |
| Kilos | superfly, i did apt-get update without internet connection. and saw it said failed to get to a whole lotta sites. can i give those links to ian and will he be able to get the security updates etc. here is a sample link | 14:59 |
| Kilos | whew | 14:59 |
| Kilos | http://security.ubuntu.com natty-security InRelease | 14:59 |
| superfly | Kilos: no, those won't work | 14:59 |
| Kilos | or wont a browser go there | 14:59 |
| Kilos | aw | 14:59 |
| superfly | Kilos: they aren't links | 15:00 |
| Kilos | so its gotta be done throught apt-get then ? | 15:00 |
| Kilos | sigh | 15:00 |
| charlvn | lol http://i.imgur.com/meI3K.png | 15:01 |
| superfly | yes | 15:01 |
| charlvn | ok serves me right for using fedora :P | 15:01 |
| charlvn | (and complaining about it on an ubuntu channel of all things) | 15:01 |
| Kilos | lol | 15:01 |
| Kilos | ty superfly | 15:02 |
| Kilos | charlvn, you also chasing gnome? | 15:02 |
| charlvn | Kilos: yes and not catching up to it apparently ;) | 15:03 |
| Kilos | ha ha ha | 15:03 |
| Kilos | at least im not alone | 15:03 |
| Kilos | maybe ill go kubuntu | 15:04 |
| superfly | charlvn: from what I've heard, Gnome Shell is in 12.04, it's just not installed by default | 15:04 |
| charlvn | +1 | 15:04 |
| charlvn | yes it's the gnome-shell package | 15:04 |
| Kilos | then the fly will go gray quick | 15:04 |
| charlvn | i installed that yesterday inside vmware and it worked perfectly | 15:04 |
| superfly | Kilos: no more than I already am :-P | 15:04 |
| Kilos | lol | 15:04 |
| charlvn | i should try inside ubuntu now | 15:04 |
| charlvn | s/ubuntu/virtualbox/ | 15:05 |
| Kilos | superfly, you gray already? | 15:05 |
| superfly | Kilos: no, and I won't before a long time | 15:05 |
| Kilos | ah | 15:05 |
| Kilos | charlvn, http://www.filiwiese.com/installing-gnome-on-ubuntu-12-04-precise-pangolin/ | 15:06 |
| charlvn | Kilos: ah interesting, very interesting | 15:07 |
| charlvn | i think i did it wrong then | 15:07 |
| charlvn | because i never sudo add-apt-repository ppa:gnome3-team/gnome3 | 15:07 |
| Kilos | ah | 15:07 |
| charlvn | ok gonna try it a bit later, thanks | 15:07 |
| Kilos | good luck | 15:07 |
| superfly | and you shouldn't... one should steer clear of unofficial repositories | 15:07 |
| Kilos | charlvn, http://www.omgubuntu.co.uk/2012/03/gnome-classic-in-ubuntu-12-04-its-like-nothing-ever-changed/ | 15:08 |
| Kilos | if that works i will go 12.04 when i get a cd | 15:09 |
| charlvn | superfly: i think there is room for unofficial repos, but as always, caution should be applied | 15:09 |
| charlvn | superfly: the only ppa i'm using at the moment is for exfat http://stackoverflow.com/questions/6537878/how-to-mount-a-exfat-partition-in-ubuntu-11-04 | 15:09 |
| superfly | charlvn: yeah, the problem is that PPA's are becoming so "mainstream" that people are throwing caution to the wind | 15:10 |
| superfly | charlvn: I maintain a PPA ;-) | 15:10 |
| superfly | (two, technically) | 15:10 |
| charlvn | yeah that's probably true | 15:10 |
| charlvn | but most people are pushing for features, not for stability | 15:10 |
| superfly | ya | 15:10 |
| charlvn | that's why lots of people moved away from debian and centos | 15:11 |
| * superfly is sorta in the process of getting his software into Debian, and thus Ubuntu, so that there will be no need for PPAs | 15:11 | |
| charlvn | when i first saw people running fedora on a server i freaked (this was many years ago) | 15:11 |
| superfly | charlvn: I'd still freak if I saw anyone running fedora on a server | 15:12 |
| superfly | it's not meant for servers | 15:12 |
| charlvn | Kilos: i think when i installed the gnome-shell yesterday without the ppa i got "gnome classic" or whatever people want to call it | 15:12 |
| charlvn | it looked exactly the same as i'm used to from the old gnome | 15:12 |
| charlvn | superfly: amazon ec2 offers fedora only, no centos | 15:13 |
| superfly | charlvn: they offer Ubuntu though, and I'd far rather run Ubuntu than Fedora | 15:13 |
| Kilos | ah as in classic on 11.04 but if you look at freecell in games the colours are shocking | 15:13 |
| charlvn | superfly: yeah same here | 15:14 |
| Kilos | this switch to ubity has rattled many feathers | 15:14 |
| charlvn | Kilos: ah yeah haven't spent too much time with that | 15:14 |
| charlvn | yeah indeed | 15:14 |
| Kilos | *unity | 15:14 |
| superfly | I think it's ruffled far fewer feathers than the media tries to tell us | 15:15 |
| superfly | Empty vessels make the most noise, as do ruffled feathers. | 15:15 |
| Kilos | im just going by the mails on our lists | 15:15 |
| Kilos | peeps like lee sharp | 15:16 |
| superfly | Kilos: like I said, empty vessels make the most noise | 15:17 |
| superfly | ;-) | 15:17 |
| Kilos | lol | 15:17 |
| Kilos | i better not say another word | 15:17 |
| charlvn | ah no sorry, i was wrong, apparently they do support centos https://aws.amazon.com/amis/rightimage-centos-5-2-base-image-beta-version-4-0-2-32-bit | 15:17 |
| charlvn | but it's community contributed | 15:17 |
| Kilos | when i get another graphics card i will try ubity | 15:17 |
| Kilos | unity | 15:18 |
| charlvn | in the short list back when i used it (2009/2010) i didn't see that option in my panel though | 15:18 |
| charlvn | probably only officially supported distros, tried to get a list of them now but can't find it | 15:18 |
| Kilos | charlvn, http://www.techlw.com/2012/02/install-gnome-shell-on-ubuntu-1204.html | 15:19 |
| Kilos | do they also say PPA | 15:19 |
| charlvn | rackspace does support centos fedora ubuntu and debian officially | 15:20 |
| charlvn | "Choose from a variety of popular 64-bit Linux® Distributions—Ubuntu, Debian, Gentoo, CentOS, Fedora, Arch and Red Hat Enterprise Linux" | 15:20 |
| charlvn | http://www.rackspace.com/cloud/cloud_hosting_products/servers/ | 15:20 |
| charlvn | Kilos: ah yeah that's exactly what i did yesterday | 15:21 |
| charlvn | but my desktop did not look like the second screenshot | 15:21 |
| charlvn | weird | 15:21 |
| Kilos | you musta missed something | 15:21 |
| charlvn | yeah | 15:22 |
| charlvn | ok i'll install it under virtualbox in any case and then try to see if i can get it to work | 15:22 |
| Kilos | lol | 15:22 |
| Kilos | have you tried unity ChanServ | 15:22 |
| Kilos | ? | 15:22 |
| Kilos | eish | 15:23 |
| charlvn | lol | 15:23 |
| Kilos | that was for you charlvn | 15:23 |
| Kilos | lol | 15:23 |
| charlvn | yeah i'm actually using it right now on my macbook pro | 15:23 |
| charlvn | but i'm not a big fan | 15:23 |
| Kilos | i am so used to typing three characters and then tab | 15:23 |
| Kilos | ah | 15:24 |
| charlvn | yeah same here | 15:25 |
| Kilos | were all creatures of habid | 15:25 |
| Kilos | habit | 15:25 |
| Kilos | bbl | 15:36 |
| charlvn | just ate pancake with rhubarb - it's better than it sounds | 15:43 |
| charlvn | ok results are in | 16:00 |
| charlvn | no need for the ppa just install gnome-shell | 16:00 |
| charlvn | enable 3d acceleration in virtualbox and it works perfectly | 16:00 |
| charlvn | http://i.imgur.com/VDDal.png | 16:00 |
| charlvn | the mandatory screenshot | 16:00 |
| charlvn | according to the folks on #ubuntu-nl, the ppa is unnecessary | 16:00 |
| tumbleweed | it shouldn't have been necessary in oneiric either | 16:01 |
| charlvn | i can try it, since i'm still running it here on my host os | 16:02 |
| charlvn | oneiric = 11.10 right? the names keep confusing me | 16:03 |
| tumbleweed | yes | 16:03 |
| charlvn | ok busy installing now | 16:03 |
| charlvn | need to close xchat to log out and test it, brb | 16:06 |
| charlvn | ok in gnome3 now - it's slow even on my mbp8.1 which is only a year old (with an intel core i5) | 16:10 |
| charlvn | not too impressed so far | 16:10 |
| charlvn | running natively i mean, on ubuntu 11.10 | 16:10 |
| magespawn | Evening all | 17:21 |
| superfly | hi magespawn | 17:22 |
| charlvn | superfly: thanks for the tip regarding enabling 3d acceleration | 17:27 |
| charlvn | works really nicely | 17:27 |
| superfly | charlvn: np... been using it for ages, actually | 17:27 |
| charlvn | strange that it isn't enabled by default but i'm sure there is a good reason for that | 17:28 |
| charlvn | for most virtual machines i'm sure you won't need it in any case | 17:28 |
| charlvn | ok i'm going to take a shower bbl | 17:28 |
| superfly | yeah, I think it's to make sure it works out of the box on most setups | 17:28 |
| magespawn | Right lets see if I can stay here this time | 17:50 |
| charlvn | ok back | 17:54 |
| charlvn | lol magespawn both you and psydroid quit and entered right after each other | 17:54 |
| magespawn | Maybe it is an alergic reaction | 17:55 |
| charlvn | there is a certain type of sauce that can create that reaction in some... http://i.imgur.com/dSgkr.png | 17:58 |
| charlvn | with added vitamin cool | 17:58 |
| psydroid | oh, hi charlvn | 18:09 |
| psydroid | hi magespawn | 18:10 |
| magespawn | Hi psydroid | 18:10 |
| psydroid | my battery ran out | 18:10 |
| charlvn | lol | 18:11 |
| charlvn | ok then it was completely unrelated :P | 18:11 |
| psydroid | :) | 18:12 |
| psydroid | we're on different continents too | 18:12 |
| magespawn | 4chan is now html5 https://boards.4chan.org/g/res/24506058 | 18:12 |
| magespawn | Well thats a relief | 18:13 |
| charlvn | http://validator.w3.org/unicorn/check?ucn_uri=https%3A%2F%2Fboards.4chan.org%2Fhtmlnew%2F | 18:17 |
| charlvn | http://validator.w3.org/check?uri=https%3A%2F%2Fboards.4chan.org%2Fhtmlnew%2F | 18:17 |
| charlvn | still needs a bit of work apparently but it's already a huge improvement | 18:18 |
| charlvn | http://validator.nu/?doc=https%3A%2F%2Fboards.4chan.org%2Fhtmlnew%2F | 18:18 |
| charlvn | psydroid: you could both be using the same irc server though | 18:20 |
| charlvn | the trouble could be on the server's end | 18:20 |
| psydroid | charvn, that would certainly be possible | 18:21 |
| kbmonkey | hello | 18:27 |
| psydroid | hello kbmonkey | 18:28 |
| kbmonkey | nice long weekend, hey? | 18:28 |
| psydroid | yeah | 18:30 |
| magespawn | Hey kbmonkey, do not really know what a long weekend is, but the days off are nice | 18:30 |
| charlvn | it's a nice break | 18:30 |
| charlvn | s/break/extra long break/ | 18:30 |
| kbmonkey | the main difference magespawn, is instead of doing work you have to do, and doing work you want to do ;) | 18:32 |
| charlvn | lol +1 | 18:34 |
| magespawn | Mm, I live in a very nice place, I never have to do work I do not want to do. | 18:34 |
| charlvn | magespawn: ever had to do the dishes | 18:36 |
| charlvn | ? | 18:36 |
| magespawn | All the time | 18:37 |
| charlvn | well if you enjoy doing the dishes, good for you :P | 18:38 |
| magespawn | But I still choose to | 18:38 |
| charlvn | well if you don't do the dishes... they heap up :( | 18:38 |
| superfly | kbmonkey: I dunno, I want to work when I go to work. | 18:38 |
| superfly | or rather, I'm doing what I enjoy when I go to work | 18:38 |
| magespawn | No not really but I dislike having no clean plates more | 18:39 |
| charlvn | lol | 18:39 |
| charlvn | well said | 18:39 |
| charlvn | otherwise, you could just throw all the dirty dishes away right? | 18:39 |
| charlvn | but then there are no clean ones | 18:39 |
| magespawn | If i had that much money it might be an option but I really have a problem with wastage | 18:41 |
| roryy | cut out the middleman. eat out of the pot. | 18:41 |
| magespawn | So maybe I could donate them to charity or something, along with the left over food. | 18:42 |
| charlvn | talking about luxury problems... :P | 18:43 |
| magespawn | Still would not, waste of time and effort, do not think I am that eccentric. ;) | 18:45 |
| charlvn | watching the latest episode of ancient aliens now http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=F8KE7nPzme0 | 18:47 |
| magespawn | I heard this somewhere: Rich people are eccentric, poor people are crazy. | 18:48 |
| charlvn | here is the pattern of thought: assumption, assumption, fact, assumption assumption assumption, fact, assumption assumption | 18:48 |
| charlvn | lol | 18:48 |
| kbmonkey | ha ha, good solution roryy ;D | 18:51 |
| kbmonkey | 1st world problems (TM) | 18:51 |
| magespawn | Yup indeed. | 18:52 |
| charlvn | http://knowyourmeme.com/memes/first-world-problems vs http://knowyourmeme.com/memes/third-world-success | 18:54 |
| charlvn | i think measuring fact-to-assumption ratio in documentaries would produce very interesting results | 18:57 |
| charlvn | especially on the history channel | 18:58 |
| magespawn | Some of those show do construct the trex from a toe bone. | 18:59 |
| charlvn | :D | 19:00 |
| magespawn | Brb battery is dying. | 19:00 |
| charlvn | this is more or less how it goes: http://knowyourmeme.com/memes/ancient-aliens | 19:01 |
| charlvn | what happened? it must have been the aliens! | 19:01 |
| charlvn | if our current civilisation goes under, people from thousands of years from now will dig up our "advanced" technology and will claim alien intervention | 19:01 |
| charlvn | ubuntu? the only way to explain the existence of such advanced technology must have been the aliens | 19:02 |
| magespawn | like a boomarang | 19:03 |
| charlvn | what is it with you and psydroid and your batters ffs | 19:04 |
| charlvn | *batteries | 19:04 |
| magespawn | tablet has been working all day, now on my phone. | 19:04 |
| charlvn | are you sure you don't know each other lol | 19:04 |
| psydroid | charlvn, I am on wifi all the time, the battery gets drained after a few hours | 19:11 |
| magespawn | ping | 19:11 |
| magespawn | Maaz coffee on | 19:11 |
| * Maaz starts grinding coffee | 19:11 | |
| psydroid | when I have a tablet, it will hopefully improvw as magespawn says | 19:11 |
| kbmonkey | Maaz, coffee please | 19:12 |
| Maaz | kbmonkey: Yessir | 19:12 |
| kbmonkey | that shold help. mmm fresh brew | 19:12 |
| Maaz | Coffee's ready for magespawn and kbmonkey! | 19:15 |
| charlvn | psydroid: yeah wifi kills a wireless device | 19:25 |
| charlvn | especially when you tether to a phone via wifi and then let the phone connect out via hsdpa | 19:25 |
| charlvn | you better have that phone connected to a charger... | 19:25 |
| charlvn | otherwise that phone gets pwned within a couple of mins, hour tops | 19:25 |
| kbmonkey | nothing beats sitting at the console ;) | 19:27 |
| psydroid | yes, I have it connected to one now | 19:27 |
| psydroid | ok, a regular keyboard allows you to type faster, but a touch-based device is more convenient | 19:28 |
| psydroid | even a netbook isn't as convenient as a phone or a tablet for light uses | 19:29 |
| kbmonkey | nah, no need to multitask IRL and the metaverse. | 19:29 |
| charlvn | netbook is old school... ultrabooks people | 19:29 |
| kbmonkey | I mean, when I do something on the PC, why would I want to do anything else at the same time ;) | 19:29 |
| charlvn | i actually had an acer ultrabook in for testing and it worked very nicely, was super light in comparison to this mbp i have on my lap right now | 19:30 |
| charlvn | through my contacts i could get it at cost price but i ended up not buying one because the memory is all onboard with no extension capabilities | 19:30 |
| kbmonkey | hot damn, boss got a new dell xps, one of those smanchy ssd's. battery life about 8 hours | 19:30 |
| charlvn | so i was limited to 4GB | 19:30 |
| charlvn | kbmonkey: sounds typical for ultrabooks, the battery life is amazing | 19:31 |
| magespawn | howdy AGAIN. | 19:41 |
| superfly | magespawn: I have two words for you: IRC bouncer | 19:44 |
| magespawn | okay whats that? like quassel core? | 19:45 |
| kbmonkey | two words: remote shell XD | 19:46 |
| magespawn | okay guys one at a time | 19:46 |
| magespawn | will google once i am back on adsl | 19:47 |
| charlvn | vps+screen+irssi | 20:03 |
| superfly | magespawn: either a remote shell, or quassel core | 20:03 |
| psydroid | I have that too now | 20:03 |
| psydroid | but I must go to sleep, good night guys | 20:04 |
| magespawn | night psydroid | 20:04 |
| kbmonkey | nite psydroid | 20:05 |
| magespawn | might hold off on this until i get the wifi/wug setup. | 20:08 |
| charlvn | http://wiki.znc.in/ZNC | 20:08 |
| charlvn | that's the most popular bnc atm afaik | 20:10 |
| charlvn | quassel is a normal irc client (for kde) no? | 20:12 |
| magespawn | yes also has android client | 20:12 |
| superfly | charlvn: well, it's written in Qt, but there is a KDE-specific version too | 20:12 |
| superfly | and it has both a "normal" and a bouncer setup | 20:13 |
| superfly | (well, they're different binaries, but the "normal" is a conglomeration of the client and core binaries) | 20:13 |
| charlvn | superfly: ah i see, didn't know that, interesting | 20:13 |
| superfly | charlvn: it works very well on OS X and on Windows too | 20:13 |
| superfly | and my Gnomified friends tell me it looks just like a GTK app in Gnome | 20:14 |
| magespawn | thats good to know. | 20:14 |
| magespawn | could you run irc on a wug? | 20:14 |
| superfly | magespawn: as far as I know, the big WUGs all have their own internal IRC networks | 20:14 |
| magespawn | irc software FOSS? | 20:15 |
| roryy | the must be | 20:16 |
| roryy | there, even | 20:16 |
| superfly | magespawn: most IRC networks are running FOSS servers | 20:16 |
| roryy | aptitude search ircd gives at least four options | 20:16 |
| kbmonkey | ircd is widely used | 20:17 |
| kbmonkey | ircd-irc2 for ex | 20:17 |
| charlvn | i used to run some servers on bahamut | 20:17 |
| magespawn | will be very useful | 20:17 |
| charlvn | a small irc network a number of years ago | 20:17 |
| magespawn | do not why I asked that should have been obvious | 20:19 |
| charlvn | http://achurch.org/services/ | 20:20 |
| charlvn | magespawn: http://hak5.org/episodes/hak5-1104 | 20:31 |
| charlvn | magespawn: http://www.wug.za.net/chat.php | 20:33 |
| magespawn | ty | 20:36 |
| magespawn | ty | 20:38 |
| magespawn | i am off, early start tomrrow, night all. | 20:39 |
| superfly | night magespawn | 20:40 |
| charlvn | night magespawn | 20:40 |
| charlvn | g'night all | 21:07 |
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